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A dedicated thread for those ridiculous/hilarious/outrageous news stories you come across, such as Don't forget to chew 20 times (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10188.msg168495.html).
It seems Greenpeace are opposed to nuclear fusion (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/22/fusion_greenpeace_no/).
The spokesperson clearly has no idea what she's talking about.
Nuclear disaster at fission plant == bad (viz Chernobyl)
Nuclear disaster at fusion plant == oops we spilt some deutrium
Bunch of ignorant, tree hugging fools!!! I think the closing quote from Moore sums the current stance of Greenpeace rather well.
On a lighter note I have to say I've never managed to loose any clothes whilst chimnying, but it seems some dimwit thief managed to completely undress (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7683826.stm) :lol:
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Not like the beeb to get typos like that - they've got him down as being arrested for burglary, when clearly they mean buggery.
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my Da just retired and then went on his motorbike around scotland. not much else to report.
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my Da just retired and then went on his motorbike around scotland. not much else to report.
;D Is he taking advantage of the reduced ferry rates (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10171.msg168522.htm) up there?
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The District Attorney in Santa Cruz has fined Target
http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_10782972 (http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_10782972)
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEauAKaed8 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEauAKaed8)
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Compare and contrast.
A CYCLIST who failed to stop when asked by a PCSO was given a £115 fine.
Sarah Wilson of Market Place, Market Weighton, rode off from the officer while riding along High Street in March.
The 33-year-old appeared at Beverley Magistrates’ Court where she pleaded guilty.
She was also ordered to pay £40 prosecution costs, although there was no separate penalty for failing to give her name and address.
A DRINK-fuelled attack led to a court appearance for a Trowbridge man.
Andrew Nicholas Sims of St Mary's Close pleaded guilty to common assault at North West Wiltshire Magistrates Court in Trowbridge on Friday, April 5.
The court heard that Mr Sims had drunk about seven or eight pints before grabbing Nicholas Butler by the throat in the toilet of the King's Arms pub, Trowbridge.
Mr Butler was forced to the ground and kicked before his friends came in and intervened.
He was left with a two-inch cut to his face and a swollen right eye after the unprovoked attack.
Mr Sims told the magistrates that he had been having a particularly hard time in his personal life and had been out drowning his sorrows.
He said he had no idea why he had attacked Mr Butler and had no memory of the incident.
He said: "There is no excuse for what I did. I have never attacked anyone before and have no intention of doing it again.
"I'm very sorry for what I did and if I could apologise to the victim in person I would."
The magistrate said that this was a very nasty attack but that they had taken into account the remorse Sims had shown and his early guilty plea.
Sims was ordered to pay £80 compensation, a fine of £70 and costs of £55.
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The authorities are definitely far too soft on cyclists .......
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A CYCLIST who failed to stop when asked by a PCSO was given a £115 fine.
Sarah Wilson of Market Place, Market Weighton, rode off from the officer while riding along High Street in March.
The 33-year-old appeared at Beverley Magistrates’ Court where she pleaded guilty.
She was also ordered to pay £40 prosecution costs, although there was no separate penalty for failing to give her name and address.
How the hell did they know who to drag into court, its not like bikes have number plates that can be cross-referenced :-\
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On a lighter note I have to say I've never managed to loose any clothes whilst chimnying, but it seems some dimwit thief managed to completely undress (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7683826.stm) :lol:
Here's another link to the same story, but from the next day when he was in court. Read carefully...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7686715.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7686715.stm)
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On a lighter note I have to say I've never managed to loose any clothes whilst chimnying, but it seems some dimwit thief managed to completely undress (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7683826.stm) :lol:
Here's another link to the same story, but from the next day when he was in court. Read carefully...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7686715.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7686715.stm)
So, Ru, how hard were the moves up to your high point? Uncanny :lol:
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Giant Lego Man (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7702121.stm) washes up on the beach.
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1225458743/img/1.jpg)
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A spokesman for Brighton and Hove City Council said the figure had been taken away.
What for, questioning?
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"No Real Than You Are"
What does that mean?
Must be Dutch. Or double dutch.
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I wondered that myself, maybe it loses something in the translation from Dutch :-\
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no less real than you are, maybe?
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Lost in translation?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm)
bluebrad
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Woman runs a mile with rabid fox clamped to arm! (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D948V99O3&show_article=1)
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she should have finished it of, with a jack.
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Thats actually very foresightful to take the animal with you as it expediated the diagnosis of rabies.
Not sure I'd have run a mile with it clamped to my arm though, but then again you're unlikely to catch me running a mile even without a fox.
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Isn't lockjaw associated with rabies? may have been a clue.
(just remembered it's tetanus)
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God save us from the imbeciles (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7715016.stm) :lol:
If only more politicians were so forthright in their opinions!
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http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10331.msg171336.html#msg171336 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10331.msg171336.html#msg171336)
:)
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http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10331.msg171336.html#msg171336 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10331.msg171336.html#msg171336)
:)
:oops: Saw Dave's post, thought it referred to Gordon Brown and didn't bother reading it.
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Ha ha. It so easily could have been. I thought it might have been about Sarkozy before I clicked on it too. Silvio is the man though.
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On a higher note (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/06/cannabis_psychosis_study/) a study (retrospective, covering population from a 45 year period and some ~2000000 individuals) suggests that cannabis-induced psychosis is actually an early marker for underlying schizophrenia as incidence of schiophrenia between those who have smoked and had a bad time and those who haven't smoked.
Can't get the original article though, despite trying several different institutional access methods :wall:
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Very sad, but for once sense has prevailed.
A young girl with a hole in her heart has been "allowed" to refuse a transplant and die with dignity (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7721231.stm).
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Stereotypes! Stereotypes!
Get your internet using, overweight, socially disfunctional stereotypes here!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1929886.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1929886.ece)
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Cheating in Second Life? FFS sad fucks!
Second Life is total shit anyway - people who get into it deserve each other.
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I love the real (fat ugly twats) v Second Life (beautiful people) pictures. That article is a fine example of all that is great about tabloid journalism in this country. I feel proud.
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Not only are they a bunch of xenophobic, racist arseholes, they're also fucking hypocrites (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7736794.stm)...
the [BNP] party would be using the Human Rights Act to try to protect the identities of its members, despite the BNP being against the European legislation.
:wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
EDIT : Anyone interested in the list (which the BNP are franticlly trying to renege) it can be viewed from Wikileaks (http://wikileaks.org/) (amusing site from time to time) at http:///wiki/British_National_Party_membership_and_contacts_list%2C_2007-2008 (http:///wiki/British_National_Party_membership_and_contacts_list%2C_2007-2008) (its also available as a torrent on the Piratebay (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4518081/British_National_Party_(BNP)_membership_list_Nov_2008)).
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Redwatch will have you marked now Slackers ;)
As you say, hypocrites and
:wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
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Redwatch will have you marked now Slackers ;)
Oh no!!!
Did you hear the one about the Australian who had a :wank: in a pasta jar whilst being arrested (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/19/pasta_sauce/)?
"Nobbys Beach" oh the irony :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It could be worse, Mr Slackline, DabWatch could be out for your blood.
I am intrigued about what a "homemade sex aid" could be....
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Weatherley gamely insisted on continuing to pleasure himself between bouts of wrestling
:lol:
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model has no bellybutton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7738144.stm) - alien! alien!
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model has no bellybutton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7738144.stm) - alien! alien!
Did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
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I love the real (fat ugly twats) v Second Life (beautiful people) pictures. That article is a fine example of all that is great about tabloid journalism in this country. I feel proud.
I - as a honed and hunky rock god - am quite tempted* to get a copy of Second Life just so I can play a bloated pasty nerdy punter 8)
* note this might be a slight exaggeration or complete BS
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7741176.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7741176.stm)
Bronx Mowgli
Not so much unfortunate name, as unfortunate choice of parents.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7741176.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7741176.stm)
Bronx Mowgli
Not so much unfortunate name, as unfortunate choice of parents.
He'll be swinging through the streets of New York!!!
Aussie gets caught out having a sickie on facebook (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/23/sickie_woo/) :lol: :lol: :lol: At least he had the humility to admit defeat ::)
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Seen that before. It's class
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Seen that before. It's class
Yeah, dates from October, first time I'd read it though :lol:
More worrying changes on that money pit of ID cards (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7742619.stm) interestingly the article states...
There will be no penalties, civil or criminal, for not applying for an ID card.
I shan't be applying for one, and I reckon its :goodidea: if no one else does.
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Don't be tempted to turn the volume up too loud on your stereos, you might have to listen to Barry Manilow at full volume for an hour (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081125/ten-judge-s-barry-and-barney-punishment-ea4616c.html)! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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model has no bellybutton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7738144.stm) - alien! alien!
Did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
No in order to have a belly button you have to have existed
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I have no belly butoon!
Oh, no, sorry ido, just luked it up on wikipedia
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model has no bellybutton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7738144.stm) - alien! alien!
Did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
No in order to have a belly button you have to have existed
Are you implying they didn't exist? So how did we come about then, climb down out of trees??
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The Whizzinator :-\
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7747833.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7747833.stm)
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As used by Olympic sprinters. Wonder if they could trace who has bought one?
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The Whizzinator :-\
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7747833.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7747833.stm)
Eh? You can now get arrested for being an entrepenaur in America? Surely theres nothing wrong with selling these things, its using them that is fraudulent (or conspiratorial as the article reports)?
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Eh? You can now get arrested for being an entrepenaur in America? Surely theres nothing wrong with selling these things, its using them that is fraudulent (or conspiratorial as the article reports)?
Yup - well out of order. Theres summat wrong with parts of that country... (seen Houdini's thread about the christian cartoon site? scary shit..)
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The Whizzinator :-\
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7747833.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7747833.stm)
Eh? You can now get arrested for being an entrepenaur in America? Surely theres nothing wrong with selling these things, its using them that is fraudulent (or conspiratorial as the article reports)?
Surely it's conspiring to commit fraud? For example if someone engraved some plates for printing false banknotes, but never actually produced or passed a fake banknote themselves. They are just as much part of it.
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Surely it's conspiring to commit fraud? For example if someone engraved some plates for printing false banknotes, but never actually produced or passed a fake banknote themselves. They are just as much part of it.
Then they are clearly idiots and should have opted for an alternative marketing strategy (http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=8657).
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Surely it's conspiring to commit fraud? For example if someone engraved some plates for printing false banknotes, but never actually produced or passed a fake banknote themselves. They are just as much part of it.
Then they are clearly idiots and should have opted for an alternative marketing strategy (http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=8657).
B*stards! I just clicked on that link... :) our works internetsnoopertsar will have a field day if they find that on the cache!
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B*stards! I just clicked on that link... :) our works internetsnoopertsar will have a field day if they find that on the cache!
Then clear your browser cache!
Depends on what browser your using, but its easy enought to clear the history and stored images from most browsers cache.
Consider browsing/reading UKB via a proxy server to help avoid such problems in the future.
And my apologies for not adding a corollary to the link :)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/26/advertising-iphone (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/26/advertising-iphone)
Looks like the small guy won for once!
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An old story but definite candidates for the Darwin awards.
A couple use flourescent tubes and petrol to make light-sabers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4575291.stm) (http://www.msu.edu/~mackertm/wotmania/images/lightsaber-green.gif) (http://www.msu.edu/~mackertm/wotmania/images/lightsaber-purple.gif) (http://www.msu.edu/~mackertm/wotmania/images/lightsaber-red.gif) (http://www.msu.edu/~mackertm/wotmania/images/lightsaber-blue.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/x-wing.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/tiefighter.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/trooper.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/lsabre.gif) (http://) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/atatpilot.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/bobafett.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/3po.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/ewokprpl.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/deathstar1.gif) (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/vader.gif)(http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/images/smilies/jawa.gif)
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The bible but not as you know it!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7750842.stm)
Anyone got a copy of the "The bible in cockney" I can borrow?
bluebrad
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The bible but not as you know it!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7750842.stm)
I suppose they've got to adapt to the 5 second attention span of todays yoot!
Anyone got a copy of the "The bible in cockney" I can borrow?
No but your friendly jungle (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bible-Cockney-Well-Bits-Anyway/dp/1841012173) does
EDIT : Just discovered the LOLCat Bible (http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page) :lol:
Oh hai. In teh beginnin Ceiling Cat maded teh skiez An da Urfs, but he did not eated dem.
(http://www.lolcatbible.com/images/thumb/5/5f/Cieling_cat_creates.jpg/200px-Cieling_cat_creates.jpg)
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It's a busy day for the Da News thread today.
After bringing you alternative bibles earlier I now present a slight issue with zoo's polar bear breeding program (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/27/polar_bear_breeding/) followed by face book bill dodgers (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/27/oz_bill_dodgers/)!
bluebrad
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Worlds oldest stash discovered (http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/544684)
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Worlds oldest stash discovered (http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/544684)
:o thats some stash, almost a kilo there. I wonder how it smokes, it should at least be properly dried after ~2700 years :P
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Yeah, it'll be well cured - should be very fine indeed :)
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:read: shouldn't have been allowed in the first place but now Rotherham Hospital Burger King is to close (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7754219.stm).
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Ha, Linux is slowly, but insidiuosly taking over the world (of geeks)!
Its used in a device which allows you to switch your kettle on from your phone (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7762646.stm). Shame I don't drink tea or coffee ::)
I hope Nokia adopt and further develop this linux OS for their phones over their symbian OS :thumbsup:
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Hooray!!!! The European Courts are useful for sometimes.
They've unanimously ruled that the retention of DNA samples and data of two men (from S. Yorks incidentally, Jas & Lager you've kept that quiet :P) who were not convicted of ANY crime contravines their human rights. :thumbsup:
This has massive implications for the worlds largest DNA database, which is the UKs and which you get stuck on if your arrested for anything (thats right, you simply have to be arrested, not charged, tried or convicted at present).
I've always had issues with this database (even though I'm not on it) as they only use 16 or 17 polymorphic loci and given the heavy bias in the database towards ethnic minoroties (thanks to PC plod being suspect of the 'blackies') it results in a system with a high possibility of mis-identification due to lower genetic diversity in the ethnic minorities. At a base level though, I've always felt that the database should only contain those who have been convicted of a crime, and that after having served their time their records should be removed (with a few exceptions such as kiddie fiddlers and out right raving loons who are probably in Broadmoor anyway).
This really is a landmark ruling and is in my opinion great news :bow:
More complete story here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7764069.stm).
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The pebble on West Side Story had a few ounces of Jasper's DNA on it. I suspect that this is why CSI Hathersage took it away for investigation. My DNA can be found in plentyfull supply on any knee or head height objects within a 10 mile radius of Sheffield City centre (I am a clumsy cunt). The European Court has, however, ruled that my DNA should not be collected and stored under any circumstances due to the risk of infection by the more virulent strains of manflu.
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:lol:
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New range of Lego characters is putting some people's noses out...
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2008/12/04/toy_taliban.jpg)(http://www.minifigforlife.com/theprostore/images/products/WW2_German_SS_Major_2large.jpg) (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/toy_taliban/) ::)
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Worlds oldest stash discovered (http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/544684)
:o thats some stash, almost a kilo there. I wonder how it smokes, it should at least be properly dried after ~2700 years :P
The company operates a cannabis-testing laboratory at a secret location in southern England
That'll be my mate's house in Hertfordshire :lol:
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Get your Christmas tat here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7767113.stm) - all you could ever want including Jesus money boxes, nativity ducks and lots more. In fact there was such a magnitude of tat that I struggled to choose a highlight from it all but eventually settled on this:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45271000/jpg/_45271040_jesusshaves.466.jpg)
"Jesus is one of the most famous beardies of all time, but simply add a hot drink to this mug and the familiar facial hair of our Lord disappears, leaving him clean-shaven."
Wow!!
bluebrad
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Always fancied a buddy christ myself
(http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/jsbstash_2026_27828304)
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Or the classic Baby Jesus Butt Plug:
(http://www.divine-interventions.com/images/baby_front.jpg)
This isn't really news is it?
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no, but still funny.
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Ex England cricketer Chris Lewis has been rather foolish..... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/09/chris-lewis-cocaine-drugs)
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Ex England cricketer Chris Lewis has been rather foolish..... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/09/chris-lewis-cocaine-drugs)
Ain't going to get out of that too easily!
Poor reporting though, first paragraph they use "allegedly found" presumably as the case has not gone to court and "proved" yet in the second paragraph its straight and clear cut "were found" :spank:
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Tis The Grauniad slackers.....
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WTF?!#@!!? is it going to be illegal for kids to look at themselves in a mirror the US after this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/)? If she wanted to embarass herself by sending pics of herself to other people then thats her own stupid fault.
I don't know if thats worse than treating cartoon characters as real people (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/08/simpsons_supreme_court/). What a fucking joke!
Just a shame that both of these examples will probably serve as example "case trials/law" for this countries overly paranoid policitically correct idiots.
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WTF?!#@!!? is it going to be illegal for kids to look at themselves in a mirror the US after this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/)? If she wanted to embarass herself by sending pics of herself to other people then thats her own stupid fault.
Fantastic. I like her high school name.
"The unnamed student from Licking Valley High School in Newark, Ohio was arrested Friday after school officials discovered the materials and notified police."
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Calling a place that, you are just asking for trouble.
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Ooooowwwww!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7779024.stm) Toddlers todgers getting crushed in toilets health and safety experts warn!!
bluebrad
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Well the shits really hit the fan in Cusop
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7782598.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7782598.stm)
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you couldn't make it up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786462.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786462.stm)
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you couldn't make it up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786462.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786462.stm)
Read that earlier, just laughed as it was in the "Entertainment" section.
Apparently Obesity (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7785195.stm) is now a taboo subject!!! No its not, they're just fat lazy cunts.
I found this particularly ironic...
The obesity story has not stayed in its box. It has run and run, but it has also provoked soul-searching.
Err, hang on, I think the point is there is a lack[/url] of running :lol:
BTW - BMI is a crap index, waist-hip ratio is far more useful and informative measure of obesity.
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you couldn't make it up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786462.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786462.stm)
Apparently Obesity (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7785195.stm) is now a taboo subject!!! No its not, they're just fat lazy cunts.
Aye - I was going to use exactly those words, instead of obese just call them fat lazy cunts!
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Speaking as a fat lazy cunt myself, I am fine with this terminology and can't see why any of my fellow lard arses should complain.
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
the problem I see with the whole obesity thing is the danger of everyone claiming its a medial problem rather than just poor diet and lakc of excersise, implying that the fatties can't do anything about it. Similarly no-doubt aresholes of the future will claim diminished resposibilty on the basis that they suffer CLDS - "Chronic Likeabilty Deficit Syndrome", thus you can't discriminate against dickheads anymore.
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Speaking as a fat lazy cunt myself, I am fine with this terminology and can't see why any of my fellow lard arses should complain.
Lagers: :lol: nice one,
Dave: - next we'll have to use vertically challenged instead of short. Please I hope thats not used already? Maybe we should use seriously un-thin instead? pah.
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
the problem I see with the whole obesity thing is the danger of everyone claiming its a medial problem rather than just poor diet and lakc of excersise, implying that the fatties can't do anything about it. Similarly no-doubt aresholes of the future will claim diminished resposibilty on the basis that they suffer CLDS - "Chronic Likeabilty Deficit Syndrome", thus you can't discriminate against dickheads anymore.
:agree:
CLDS already exists in the form of various "Personality Disorders" - the most unhelpful diagnosis known to modern medicine. Once a patient (or "twat") has recieved such a diagnosis along with the explaination that it is not a treatable condition they use the label to excuse every type of cuntism.
"It's not a personality disorder, you're just a twat" should be posted on billboards everywhere to solve this issue. Along with a similar campaign about fat lazt cunts.
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
Sorry dave, but thats exceptionally flippant and completely neglects those unfortunate enough to suffer from body image distortion....
(http://cataloniaisnotspain.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/anorexia.jpg)
EDIT : Forgot to say, spot-on with the CLDS though :lol: :hug:
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
Sorry dave, but thats exceptionally flippant and completely neglects those unfortunate enough to suffer from body image distortion....
well, to be fair, people with that particular disorder aren't seeing someone fat, they're seeing someone thin, but for whatever reason distorting that image in the brain or just react to it differently - its not a cognitive visual impairment. I'm sure they still "see" the way everyone else does.
i'm just surprised no-one piced up that i was also discriminating against blind people there too.
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
Sorry dave, but thats exceptionally flippant and completely neglects those unfortunate enough to suffer from body image distortion....
(http://cataloniaisnotspain.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/anorexia.jpg)
i'm just surprised no-one piced up that i was also discriminating against blind people there too.
Person most likely to fuck up using the quote tags.
:whistle: :lol:
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
Sorry dave, but thats exceptionally flippant and completely neglects those unfortunate enough to suffer from body image distortion....
(http://cataloniaisnotspain.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/anorexia.jpg)
That picture makes me sick ;)
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the best indicator of obesity is a mirror. if you look in the mirror and see a chubby calorie collector, you're obese.
Sorry dave, but thats exceptionally flippant and completely neglects those unfortunate enough to suffer from body image distortion....
(http://cataloniaisnotspain.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/anorexia.jpg)
i'm just surprised no-one piced up that i was also discriminating against blind people there too.
Person most likely to fuck up using the quote tags.
:whistle: :lol:
at least i check straight away and correct it, see above.
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at least i check straight away and correct it, see above.
Aye, noticed that, handy being able to modify them as I sometimes forget to "Preview" posts first myself :P
Right enough pissing around from me (for now) I've got work to do (for once).
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On a similar theme, but NSFW
When you look via webcam you see a strumpet. When this girl looks in the mirror, she see's the fat girl.
(http://marvin.hb0da.org/~beavis/archive/files/butterface.jpg)
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No cake for Adolf (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5358489.ece)
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No cake for Adolf (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5358489.ece)
WTF, given past history, thats one of the dumbest names for your kid I've ever heard.
Flame the new scent from BK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7791007.stm) (Fiend is waiting for the competitors to release their version) :P
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Flame the new scent from BK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7791007.stm) (Fiend is waiting for the competitors to release their version) :P
Excellent...
Mc Donalds can call their 'eau de Toillette.... "Ronald"
KFC could call theirs "Saunders water" (or make it smell like their clean up wipes!)
Istanbul Kebabs down the road could call theirs "shit on a stick"
Our local chippy could also do a good one..... ;)
'Dhansak by Chanel'... I can see it now, a multi-million pound advert with Nicole Kidman on some NYC rooftop scene smearing lime pickle over her flange, drizzling curry on her jugs and crumbling poppodoms on her twitching midriff to seduce some poor innocent..
:spank: bad Tom... and its only just friday afternoon!!
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L'Arde, the new anti-aging cream from Two-Steps.
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Someone really put their foot in it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7791321.stm) ;D
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Someone really put their foot in it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7791321.stm) ;D
Steven King's The Dark Half was based on this phenomenon.
Spooky
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Yeah I was just thinking that. I like Stephen King but thought The Dark Half was rubbish. :thumbsdown:
That is some freaky shit though.
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Lorry driver doesn't quite get whats coming to him (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7795709.stm)
Absolute nutter! Should have had a far weightier sentence than that I feel.
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what an a-hole. thats ridiculous!
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Lorry driver doesn't quite get whats coming to him (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7795709.stm)
Absolute nutter! Should have had a far weightier sentance than that I feel.
Yup, 15 months is shocking considering what could have happened. I dutifully trust the Daily Mail will take up the crusade - especially as he was not from the UK!
He did however come up with a quality lame excuse "He initially told police that he was a hitch-hiker and had not been behind the wheel at all."
It wasnt me, it was him! Pointing at imaginary friend to the right...
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails)
Aside from being the worlds longest URL... what a stupid load of cock...
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Good to see the pope has his priorities sorted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm) :wank:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails)
Aside from being the worlds longest URL... what a stupid load of cock...
You don't need to show the URL all the time, intead of just pasting it in, use the BBcode to embed it.
[url=http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails]http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails]Dumb ass companies fight stupid legal battle[/url]
Would result in...
Dumb ass companies fight stupid legal battle (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/YouTube-And-Warner-Dispute-Happy-Birthday-To-Disappear-From-Website-After-Google-Deal-Fails/Article/200812415191084?lpos=Business_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15191084_YouTube_And_Warner_Dispute%3A_Happy_Birthday_To_Disappear_From_Website_After_Google_Deal_Fails)
See here (http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?topic=697) for official documentation.
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I don't know why the pope is stressing - as far as I know the age of most senior catholic preists' sexual partners doesn't allow for significant gender determination anyway.
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And there was me thinking it was Islamic fundamentalists who were terrorising the world but the word from the Big Man is that it's actually a bunch of benders from Brighton. :spank:
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I don't know why the pope is stressing - as far as I know the age of most senior catholic preists' sexual partners doesn't allow for significant gender determination anyway.
:lol: very good.
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I don't know why the pope is stressing - as far as I know the age of most senior catholic preists' sexual partners doesn't allow for significant gender determination anyway.
:lol: very good.
Indeed - its kind of slipped under the mainstream news radar, but the ol' Popes message is really pretty fucking outrageous.... Stupid old giffer (said he waiting for the thunderbolt to strike me down!)
ps - Slackline, cheers for the URL lesson - was wondering how to do that...
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I don't know why the pope is stressing - as far as I know the age of most senior catholic preists' sexual partners doesn't allow for significant gender determination anyway.
The Pope should go choke on a fat dick...oh wait....
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i seem to remember another well know historical group who were famously less than enthusiastic about woofters..... (http://th01.deviantart.com/fs8/300W/i/2005/359/6/a/nazi_pope_by_ktrcoyote.jpg)
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I studied eusocial insects and apiculture at University and the work done on bees and their communication by Lorenz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Lorenz), Tinbergen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaas_Tinbergen) and others is truely fascinating. This adds an interesting slant to the research....
Bees on Cocaine (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/23/bees_on_cocaine/) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Ace Idea this! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7798194.stm)
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Ace Idea this! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7798194.stm)
That is inspired genius!!! Reminds me of the porta-urinals that appear in Amsterdam overnight.
Crazy Greeks (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/30/true_mytilenians/) (old story, but first time I'd come across it and it made me :lol: ).
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Twat!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7804298.stm) :lol:
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Flaming Galah!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7812875.stm)
What a knob!
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If you're in Cairns (Australia) of drinking in the Sapphire Bar, which "has a rear entry in the same lane as the adult shop" (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/07/jungle_jane/). Pictures here (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2009/01/07/22431_local-news.html) :lol:
Seems judges in Australia are honest and have a sense of humor (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/07/gorillas_in_the_mist/) after telling one repeat offender that he would....
"shower with the gorillas in the mist down at Long Bay jail". He elaborated: "You'll find big, ugly, hairy strong men who've got faces only a mother could love that will pay a lot of attention to you - and your anatomy."
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If you're in Cairns (Australia) of drinking in the Sapphire Bar, which "has a rear entry in the same lane as the adult shop" (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/07/jungle_jane/). Pictures here (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2009/01/07/22431_local-news.html) :lol:
Quality... thought having read the article:
The thief has also apparently targeted the nearby Sapphire Bar, which "has a rear entry in the same lane as the adult shop", as the Cairns Post unfortunately puts it. The bar has suffered "two thefts from the till" and on Sunday night was again visited when the burglar "smashed a hole near the top of the roof line" and "clambered 15m down a sheer wall", as owner David Sharman explained.
Fleeting video images of the crim show "a tall, skinny Caucasian". Police, though, have rather more substantial evidence which could lead to a cuffing, in the form of "DNA on a doll" and "possible fingerprints on its face".
He added: "He [only] took the surveillance recorders - we found them in the bin."
The perps got to be a climber... tall, skinny and climbed down a 15m wall,,,,
Now does anyone know a Climber living in Cairns with a sexual predeliction for blowing up his conquests?
Wonder what freud would make of it all!
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Boris gets his comeuppance (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7817530.stm) :lol:
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Hampshire Constabulary is the country's most gay-friendly public sector employer, according to an annual study. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7815419.stm)
More gay-freindly than Brighton and Hove Council ! Now that's news.
Hopefully just the start of a big cultural shift for The Filth
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Someone was unlucky on a chairlift in Vail (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7816336.stm)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/americas_enl_1231348412/img/1.jpg)
...and on New Years Day too :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Big Brother is going to be watching closer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm)
Seems a bit redundant though as a fair proportion of the population use web-based email, thus removing any involvement of ISPs.
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101 uses for an Ikea Bag
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7819581.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7819581.stm)
Police are viewing the death as suspicious. Geniuses them, get Taggart on the case.
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Now I've not seen an elephant fly, but this is getting close to "everythin"...
I want my kidney back! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7818751.stm)
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From today's Independent:
'Shopaholic Crushed by Her Purchases
A Stockport pensioner who was addicted to shopping has been crushed to death by her purchases. Police began looking for Joan Cunnane, 77, in her bungalow on Tuesday. They searched through hoardes of unopened items stored in her house before finding her yesterday buried under three suitcases'
Meanwhile, in other news, Christian Voice report the Humanist Society to the Advertising Standards Authority for their 'god probably doesn't exist' ad campaign on the basis of a lack of 'truthfulness' and 'substantiation'. The fucking fuckwits.
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While kissing...doctors advise...to proceed with caution (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7772902.stm)
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Hard times for the pr0n industry which is asking for a $5 billion (http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/01/07/2009-01-07_pr0n_kings_larry_flint_and_joe_francis_g.html) bailout.
As a related bonus for all you Sarah Palin fans - Nailin' Paylin (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/10/06/2008-10-06_new_details_on_larry_flynts_sarah_palin_-1.html)!
bluebrad
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Lazy fucking cunts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7816500.stm)
Absolute twat says...
Carl has three words to describe how he feels about his situation.
"Gutted. Depressed. Bored. Young people don't get given a chance."
Err, hello, why the fuck should you be given a chance?
Both left school at 16 without any qualifications and initially found work.
Get up of your fat arse and go and make your own opportunities, the world owes you nothing :wank:
"At one place I turned up to do a night shift, then the next day they said they were full up and didn't need me. I had to go home, it was about three miles and I'd missed the last bus. "
Aww, my heart fucking bleeds, a whole three miles, how did you manage it?
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Now, this isn't new news (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/public_law/article703653.ece), but it is one of the more interesting legal processes that I've helped with (I didn't take part in the alleged offence itself in case you were wondering).
By taking it to the High Court, Mr Rose has established that it is legal for homeless people (and the rest of us for that matter) to have sex with each other in public places (the only places available for homeless people) as long as it's not done in front of others. This was not previously accepted.
:highfive:
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8) I'm going to go and find a secluded spot with a security camera and take the missus out for a few drinks nearby ;D
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Lazy fucking cunts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7816500.stm)
Absolute twat says...
Carl has three words to describe how he feels about his situation.
"Gutted. Depressed. Bored. Young people don't get given a chance."
Err, hello, why the fuck should you be given a chance?
Both left school at 16 without any qualifications and initially found work.
Get up of your fat arse and go and make your own opportunities, the world owes you nothing :wank:
"At one place I turned up to do a night shift, then the next day they said they were full up and didn't need me. I had to go home, it was about three miles and I'd missed the last bus. "
Aww, my heart fucking bleeds, a whole three miles, how did you manage it?
you could quote the whole thing - so much wrongness.
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Lazy fucking cunts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7816500.stm)
Absolute twat says...
Carl has three words to describe how he feels about his situation.
"Gutted. Depressed. Bored. Young people don't get given a chance."
Err, hello, why the fuck should you be given a chance?
Both left school at 16 without any qualifications and initially found work.
Get up of your fat arse and go and make your own opportunities, the world owes you nothing :wank:
"At one place I turned up to do a night shift, then the next day they said they were full up and didn't need me. I had to go home, it was about three miles and I'd missed the last bus. "
Aww, my heart fucking bleeds, a whole three miles, how did you manage it?
you could quote the whole thing - so much wrongness.
:agree: :agree:
Absolutely, the bit that made my stomach turn was the obligatory 'blame the migrants' line. Basically the good people from newly joined EU states get off their arses unlike these fat lazy c*nts and make something of it (and their lives!).
Twats. :wank:
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Now, this isn't new news (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/public_law/article703653.ece),......
“A wide range of conduct had been caught by the offence, including a schoolmaster ‘behaving in an indecent manner with a desk’ in front of two boys..."
???
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This'll put you off your breakfast... world changing news indeed (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/134165/SEE-KERRY-KATONAS-NEW-BOOBS-Slimline-star-photographed-topless-on-beach.html) :)
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Now, this isn't new news (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/public_law/article703653.ece), but it is one of the more interesting legal processes that I've helped with (I didn't take part in the alleged offence itself in case you were wondering).
By taking it to the High Court, Mr Rose has established that it is legal for homeless people (and the rest of us for that matter) to have sex with each other in public places (the only places available for homeless people) as long as it's not done in front of others. This was not previously accepted.
:highfive:
I think someone misunderstood the implications of this ruling (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2114862.ece)*
* I apologise for linking to the Sun.
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(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00703/Emma-Modrate-280_703654a.jpg)
Appalling
Fucking hell, The Sun got one thing right! Look at the cut on her face!
RANDY reveller Emma Modrate repeatedly performed sex acts on her boyfriend in the street in front of dozens of appalled passers-by.
At one stage a tramp stood behind the couple and chatted to Dougherty while the act was being carried out, Durham Crown Court heard.
The court heard that Modrate had a long criminal history and has appeared in court on 33 occasions since 1998.
Andrew Finlay, mitigating, said: “She has now separated from Mr Dougherty after a record of considerable domestic violence.”
Mr Finlay said Modrate was ... on a drug rehabilitation scheme.
Jesus. It's grim up East Durham.
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Scum. Subhuman scum.
http://www.alan-partridge.co.uk/multimedia/soundclips/imalans01/s01e01/Scum.mp3 (http://www.alan-partridge.co.uk/multimedia/soundclips/imalans01/s01e01/Scum.mp3)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7839863.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7839863.stm)
Makes me squirm watching him pander to the UN when you see the images linked to above. :wank:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7839863.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7839863.stm)
Makes me squirm watching him pander to the UN when you see the images linked to above. :wank:
Sorry I don't really follow, what are you trying to say?
Let no one forget that our allies have used WP against built up civillian areas and our troops have confessed to war crimes.
War is a nasty brutal business and there are rarely any clean and simple answers or means of resolving conflict. As dreadful as the conflict was and as dradful as the suffering of the Palestinian people will continue to be this conflict in relative terms is minor and carried out with a minimal degree of collateral damage.
HAMAS are a terrorist organisation who deliberately seek to maim and murder innocent civilians. Isreal is a democratic government with the duty to defend its citizens, whether they are going about this in the right way remains to be seen. I would prefer that they seek to 'kill' the threat of terror with kindness rather than rage and war but then again I don't sit in the Knesset.
There should be investigations into the actions of the IDF and prosecutions if there's sufficient reliable evidence to support the same but if you want to see an end to the conflict the starting point is to move away from the position of HAMAS good IDF bad.
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To be honest I don't take one side or the other. If the pictures mentioned previously had been of Israelis and the bombs been Palestinian my feelings would have been much the same. Most Israelis and most Palestinians don't want any of this shit, its the people like Hamas that are propagating misery that is inflicted upon civilians.
In fact I read somewhere that most Palestinians and most Israelis would be more than happy to simply have one unified nation with cultural tolerance.
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If you're in Cairns (Australia) of drinking in the Sapphire Bar, which "has a rear entry in the same lane as the adult shop" (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/07/jungle_jane/). Pictures here (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2009/01/07/22431_local-news.html) :lol:
Blow-up rubber dolls in Australia can now rest easy, the perpetrator has been arrested (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2009/01/21/24541_local-news.html).
From the same web-site it seems some Burmese fishermen have some rather fishy tails (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2009/01/21/24585_local-news.html). ("Esky" is Australian slang for a cool-box, the aetiology is from a particular brand I believe)
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Eskimo I think.
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DAB! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/obama_inauguration/7843881.stm)
back around.
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DAB! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/obama_inauguration/7843881.stm)
back around.
I think you are allowed do-overises if it's your first go. Plus he was given duff beta.
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i'd love to see future inaugurations overseen timmy mallet, to make sure theres no repetition, deviation,......hesitiation, or repetition.
just out of interest but how did they manage to coax that imbecile Bush to say the right words at the right time for the inauguration? it must have taken months of careful training, not just to get the timing right but also to expand his vocabulary tenfold, a bit like when they trained father jack to say "yes" and "that would be an ecumenical matter".
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Looks like the new boss of the US may be more open (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7844280.stm) about computing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7841486.stm). The later story might have some M$ bods worried about their profit margins :P
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Jesus told me to do it (http://www.loweringthebar.net/2008/12/jesus-told-me-to-ram-that-car-says-driver.html)
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Fuckwits ignoring scientific evidence (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7845023.stm) :spank: :rtfm: :read: I'm with Bob.
Also, has anyone noticed the irony in refusing to broadcast a Gaza appeal and then harping on about it in the news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7850407.stm)? "No such thing as bad publicity!!!!"
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"What I'd like to ask politicians is what harm am I doing by staying in, rolling a few spliffs [joints] and watching television?"
if he can guarantee that the money he paid for it is just going to some rattly old puffin growing it to ease her arthritis and any extra money just to supplement her meagre state pension to keep the heating on in winter, rather than that money going to dealers/suppliers who are also pushing skag, crack, whatever, people trafficing, gunrunning, extorsion, murder etc.
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"What I'd like to ask politicians is what harm am I doing by staying in, rolling a few spliffs [joints] and watching television?"
if he can guarantee that the money he paid for it is just going to some rattly old puffin growing it to ease her arthritis and any extra money just to supplement her meagre state pension to keep the heating on in winter, rather than that money going to dealers/suppliers who are also pushing skag, crack, whatever, people trafficing, gunrunning, extorsion, murder etc.
Of course this is in and of itself a symptom of the supply of drugs being illegal, and is the perfect reasoning for legalising all drugs...quality control (less ODs), removal of criminal element, increase in revenue for Government through taxation etc. etc.
Prohibition doesn't work.
Look at the statistics for Holland where they decriminalised weed and started treating heroin addiction as a medical problem. Net result, no increase in the uptake of dope smoking by youngsters, a slight increase in the overall mean age of dope smokers, and perhaps most significant/important a dramatic increase in the mean age of heroin users, i.e. massive reduction in uptake by youngsters.1
1 Can't be arsed to dig out the references at the moment but think I have copies at home if anyone is interested in details
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Indeed, and I hear those murder cafes in amsterdam have litterally halved the homicide rate, enabling police to concentrate their resources on more serious crimes.
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Bit of a general one this, so apologies for not sourcing a suitable article.
I'm getting more and more annoyed with the politician's lexicon expanding to include 'hardworkingfamilies' as opposed to 'the british public' or whatever. I'm not sure if it's coming up more because of the increase in stories about recession, but it's getting on my wick.
It seems to be primarily applied in situations where help or assistance to HWF are being discussed, and in this context in particular there are a couple sides to the subtext of this phrase that trouble me.
Firstly, that if you're not hard working this is some way means you're not contributing to society - in one level I guess this is fair enough, but with the amount of redundancies on the rise I'm sure there will be a lot of hard working members of the public (myself possibly included) that will no longer be able to do this.
Secondly, what about hardworkingsinglepeople - I pay the same amout of tax to the exchequer, but don't (yet) require that much support from the state.
I'm well aware this could just be my personal bugbear, but I reckon if you had a drinking game where you watched Question Time and swigged your drink every time HWF was mentioned, you'd be lashed by the end of it!
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Firstly, that if you're not hard working this is some way means you're not contributing to society - in one level I guess this is fair enough, but with the amount of redundancies on the rise I'm sure there will be a lot of hard working members of the public (myself possibly included) that will no longer be able to do this.
Secondly, what about hardworkingsinglepeople - I pay the same amout of tax to the exchequer, but don't (yet) require that much support from the state.
Its no doubt bullshit spin from Labour trying to appeal to their core electorate 'cause they know their up shit creek come the next election.
Remember seeing something on TV a while back about how single people don't get the same treatment as families but wasn't paying too much attention.
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Couple of beauties for you today: Gordon Ramsay is UK's Prime Minister (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/28/ramsay_pm/) and Japanese men get ill after eating puffer fish bollox (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/blowfish_poisoning/).
bluebrad
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Having just depressed myself by reading posts about burglarys and redundancies, I thought I'd turn to the benign clould world of the Cambrian News (Aberystwyths local tome) and was gratifyingly amused by whats topping the headlines there (http://www.aberystwyth-today.co.uk/today/options/news/newsdetail.cfm?id=61139) :)
Nearly as good as the 'Mayor rescues dog from roof' shocker a few years back...
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Some very strange use of hypenations in that report!
More dumb americans, this time with police badges (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/chicago_boy_counterfeits_thin_blue_line/) I guess all he wanted to do was go for a ride in a police car.
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Think that report was formatted for printing in the newspaper and then copied and pasted for the web edition.
Anyway here we have a couple of really dumb kiwi criminals (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7857469.stm) and keeping with the theme here is yet another idiot (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7657361.stm) breaking into a car.
bluebrad
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Anyway here we have a couple of really dumb kiwi criminals (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7857469.stm) and keeping with the theme here is yet another idiot (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7657361.stm) breaking into a car.
bluebrad
That New Zealand one is funny (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,4585.msg183093.html#msg183093).
The twat with the tattoo is funnier though. Shame he only got 7 months :thumbsdown:
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Dope (fiend) gets busted in Swizz by :google: (Earth) (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/30/google_earth_plantation/)
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Busted for Sex with goat (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article147241.ece)
Its an oldy (2002) but still a classic.. the best part was being caught by a train full of people when the train stopped at a signal right next to where the ahem 'deed' was being carried out..
Maybe we need a 'Da old news' thread..?
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Apparently the 'best complaint letter ever written - ever' (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blog/editors_corner/article/11975/)
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Apparently the 'best complaint letter ever written - ever' (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blog/editors_corner/article/11975/)
:lol: Not sure if its the best ever but pretty damn funny
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Apparently the 'best complaint letter ever written - ever' (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blog/editors_corner/article/11975/)
:lol: Not sure if its the best ever but pretty damn funny
Whats possibly funnier is that two collegues came into my office shortly after I had posted the goat article, and saw 'hull goat sex' in the google search window in the top RH side of my browser... :-[
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Uber Climber of the future? (http://www.ktvu.com/news/18608582/detail.html#-)
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super
wankbowl (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7864733.stm)
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super wankbowl (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7864733.stm)
My friend watches some football matches using myp2p (http://www.myp2p.eu) and says this happens regularly (basically when whoever the seed is originating from fancies cranking one out in the break and changes channels).
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Too little, too late (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7865114.stm) should have got far more than that. Just turn phones off or ignore them when you're in the car, if its that important whoever it is will call back, or you can pull over at the next safe spot and return the call.
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Ha ha. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484326,00.html)
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Ha ha. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,484326,00.html)
:lol:
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For who the cell tolls! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/03/exploding_battery_chest_pocket_kills_chinese_man/)
Wish I had made up that strap line but I am not that clever... :(
bluebrad
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For who the cell tolls! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/03/exploding_battery_chest_pocket_kills_chinese_man/)
Wish I had made up that strap line but I am not that clever... :(
Shame the battery wasn't in his hat, then 'all the power would have gone to his head'...
Cheesy drum roll and groan..
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Winter blues (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090128/METRO08/901280491)
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That's incredibly sad. :(
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Another heart-warmer (http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=5418811&page=2)
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Fucking hell, I'm clearly not cut out for the news thread. :(
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Good to see the police using our money wisely once more:
Pew Pew Pew!! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135179/Armed-police-arrest-man-playfully-pointing-toy-ray-gun-baby.html)
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Good to see the police using our money wisely once more:
Pew Pew Pew!! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135179/Armed-police-arrest-man-playfully-pointing-toy-ray-gun-baby.html)
Absolute lunacy. The mother should get psychiatric testing she sounds paranoid.
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Fucking nutter (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7872231.stm) :o
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Good to see the police using our money wisely once more:
Pew Pew Pew!! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135179/Armed-police-arrest-man-playfully-pointing-toy-ray-gun-baby.html)
I don't think its a police problem, its the filly f--ker that called them; if you get a call into the control room saying in essence that there's a bloke pointing an imitation firearm at members of the public it will have to be treated seriously.
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Fucking nutter (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7872231.stm) :o
Thats both gruesome and fcuking weird on all sorts of levels... You'd be much happier pulling someone who actually boiled bunnies!
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I don't think its a police problem, its the filly f--ker that called them; if you get a call into the control room saying in essence that there's a bloke pointing an imitation firearm at members of the public it will have to be treated seriously.
So when the swat team got there and accosted the man, finding the "'silver ray-gun' which lights up and makes a buzzing noise when the trigger is pulled." they didn't have a word with the woman for wasting police time and apologise to the bloke, but instead "Police seized the man's toy ray-gun and arrested him on suspicion of possessing an imitation firearm in a public place."
Hmmm :-\
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Because the twats at the home office have introduced a policy of positve interventions in circumstances such as this.
The officers however may have just over reacted or been muppets.
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Because the twats at the home office have introduced a policy of positve interventions in circumstances such as this.
The officers however may have just over reacted or been muppets.
Surely it means they were muppets as the "positive intervention" would have been to tell the woman to stop wasting their time.
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This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7878211.stm) is fucking loopy!
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This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7878211.stm) is fucking loopy!
I saw something on the news the other day about this. That idiot who lost his shoe was rather lucky.
Twats who choose to ignore the barriers deserve to get hit, if only it were just them who was at risk. Unfortunately they endanger all the unwitting passangers, complete and utter :wank:
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This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7878211.stm) is fucking loopy!
I was in Reus (Spain) in the Summer and a railway rack goes right through the town. It was a busy street and 95% of pedestrians kept crossing the tracks everytime the barriers went down. Nutters.
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A load of fuss over nothing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7880690.stm)
Kids go to school to learn and be educated, there are Religious Education classes to address their education in all faiths. If parents want their kids to pray every day then they can do that in the privacy of their own home (or local place of worship), if I ever have children I will make sure they are not indoctrinated to whatever religion is preached in morning assembly. What a waste of time, and no doubt a loss to the school as another teacher decides to quite over something which really shouldn't be an issue.
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Genius reporting (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7881020.stm)
...keeping an open mind about the motive for the attack.
I bet the guy shot in the head is too :P
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A load of fuss over nothing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7880690.stm)
Kids go to school to learn and be educated, there are Religious Education classes to address their education in all faiths. If parents want their kids to pray every day then they can do that in the privacy of their own home (or local place of worship), if I ever have children I will make sure they are not indoctrinated to whatever religion is preached in morning assembly. What a waste of time, and no doubt a loss to the school as another teacher decides to quite over something which really shouldn't be an issue.
especially ridiculous bearing in mind that no other sheffield schools have seperate assemblies for muslims/otherwise. fuck knows why there is a "legal requirements for schools to hold a "daily act of worship"" - is it still the fucking 15th century or something? and for all that someone has to lose their job, its a disgrace
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fuck knows why there is a "legal requirements for schools to hold a "daily act of worship"" - is it still the fucking 15th century or something? and for all that someone has to lose their job, its a disgrace
Too right, an absolute disgrace that has no place in schools. From the article it looks as if the legislation for such bullshit is over 60 years old.
:furious: :wall:
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fuck knows why there is a "legal requirements for schools to hold a "daily act of worship"" - is it still the fucking 15th century or something? and for all that someone has to lose their job, its a disgrace
Too right, an absolute disgrace that has no place in schools. From the article it looks as if the legislation for such bullshit is over 60 years old.
:furious: :wall:
Is that true????? Jesus fucking Christ, throw us a frickin bone!!!!!
Talk about being stuck in the dark ages. Religion just seems to piss me off more and more these days
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Too right, an absolute disgrace that has no place in schools. From the article it looks as if the legislation for such bullshit is over 60 years old.
:furious: :wall:
Particularly hypocritical given that since the blue-bloods stopped ruling the country in the UK we are supposed to have a secular governance :-\
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wishful thinking (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7880832.stm)
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wishful thinking (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7880832.stm)
Thats a real shame it was a false alarm.
Determined drinkers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7882090.stm) :lol: :P
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Fine until they need to change a barrel...
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shit that could be straight out of an episode of men behaving badly.
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That's brilliant :lol: Although surely there feet will get cold, they should have had wellies on.
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:shrug: Yummy Mummies :-\ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7883893.stm)
Politicians altering facts, never :lol: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7884582.stm)
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Politicians not listening to facts and ignoring common sense? Of fucking course! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/feb/12/ecstasy-jacqui-smith-drug-laws)
:furious:
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:shrug: Yummy Mummies :-\ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7883893.stm)
thats it, I'm moving to kent once the bin lid is here.
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:shrug: Yummy Mummies :-\ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7883893.stm)
thats it, I'm moving to kent once the bin lid is here.
Ginger one with red boots... :-\ So bad she nearly cracked my PC screen! I recon the headmasters got a hidden webcam and spends his breaktimes.... :wank:
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In terms of crime, those using ecstasy rarely turned violent or committed public order offences.
:lol: Why not state the bleeding fucking obvious
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C U N T (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2009/02/10/1234028017844.html)
I like this quote.......
* Joe
* February 10, 2009
* 01:59 PM
This pastor should have been an abortion. Is it too late now?
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Shame he didn't tell anyone about these fires when he first visualised them back in October :wank:
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Politicians not listening to facts and ignoring common sense? Of fucking course! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/feb/12/ecstasy-jacqui-smith-drug-laws)
Where are the "Annual death toll" results for Alcohol and Tobacco? Surely that information would add some kind of perspective?
Annual death toll
Heroin and morphine 622
Methadone 276
Cocaine 86
Amphetamines 70
Ecstasy 33
Cannabis 14
About 106,000 people in the UK die each year due to smoking
Obviously more people smoke than take Ecstasy, but if the death toll is important then surely there are other areas to look at first.
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It's just a joke when everyone knows the correct course of action (the police, the government's own advisory committee, the politicians themselves) and yet they're too scared of the Daily Mail backlash to do the right thing. A very sad state of affairs which also applies in many other cases.
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As this board's resident Wire propogandist, I refer you the end of series 3 and the 'Hamsterdam' debacle for one of the most astute pieces of satire regarding the 'drugs war' that you'll ever see.
Am aware that was a bit off topic - anyway. How about a pretty on-the-money rant regarding Hazel Blears?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/hazel-blears-george-monbiot (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/hazel-blears-george-monbiot)
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Am aware that was a bit off topic - anyway. How about a pretty on-the-money rant regarding Hazel Blears?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/hazel-blears-george-monbiot (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/hazel-blears-george-monbiot)
I really don't like Monbiot..
Sorry, I like many of the Gruniads correspondents but he gets under my skin. I think he's a winger who sits on the sidelines and just tries to poke holes in what happens. I always get the impression his cup is half empty and he seems to look for the faults rather than the positives. However, despite the ranting this is interesting and he certainly has a point. What he shows (not how he says it) is good stuff...
Sadly, politicians = theives, liars and cheats.
Find me an exception.....
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I think he's a winger who sits on the sidelines
Like Stewart Downing?
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Sadly, politicians = theives, liars and cheats.
Find me an exception.....
If the hype turns out to be true.....Obama?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/hazel-blears-george-monbiot (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/hazel-blears-george-monbiot)
Good article.
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I think he's a winger who sits on the sidelines
Like Stewart Downing?
;D
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There are so many :o things about this article (containing slightly freaky pictures) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1142566/The-mother-baby-bumps-Octuplets-mum-bares-ENORMOUS-stomach-just-days-giving-birth.html) I don't really know where to start.
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There are so many :o things about this article (containing slightly freaky pictures) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1142566/The-mother-baby-bumps-Octuplets-mum-bares-ENORMOUS-stomach-just-days-giving-birth.html) I don't really know where to start.
Holy fuck.. thats knocked Toms weirdshitometer off the scale...
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There are so many :o things about this article (containing slightly freaky pictures) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1142566/The-mother-baby-bumps-Octuplets-mum-bares-ENORMOUS-stomach-just-days-giving-birth.html) I don't really know where to start.
Holy fuck.. thats knocked Toms weirdshitometer off the scale...
That was also the first time I've ever looked at the daily mails website (shudder),.. funny Gruaniad article about the Daily Grail. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2009/feb/13/dailymail-celebrity). I particularly like the comment about having to visit to the editor as being 'double cunted' :)
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Read 'The Eye' and Street of Shame for the full works.
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Babies having babies (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece). There really are no words. :(
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Babies having babies (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece). There really are no words. :(
Saw that on the front page buying my daily dose of Irn-Bru this morning. Absolutely fucking ridiculous, should be refused assistance from the state and the parents of the kids should take responsibility for not educating their children properly.
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I know what you mean, but that would just leave the kids worse off in the end. I have no clue how we go about fixing a world where this kind of thing is deemed acceptable. It would make me angry if it didn't make me so sad. They've really got no chance, any of them, have they? :(
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I have no clue how we go about fixing a world where this kind of thing is deemed acceptable.
Luton (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10931.msg183460.html#msg183460).
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I have no clue how we go about fixing a world where this kind of thing is deemed acceptable.
Luton (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10931.msg183460.html#msg183460).
:lol: forgot about the plans for Luton.
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Babies having babies (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece). There really are no words. :(
we're just getting into this ridiculous russian doll situation.
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As much as that is a fine idea, I'm not sure that's really fixing the issue, is it Jasper. ::) ;D
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I now know the world to fucked. A 13 year old, 4ft tall Man U fan has fathered a child. Mental
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I now know the world to fucked. A 13 year old, 4ft tall Man U fan has fathered a child. Mental
when asked how he was going to work things out financially, he asked "whats finance?". :o
On one ward of the Bransholme estate here in 'ull, the average age of a grandmother is 37.
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Danish sex museum hit by credit crunch shock (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/13/loss_of_wood/).
bluebrad
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As much as that is a fine idea, I'm not sure that's really fixing the issue, is it Jasper. ::) ;D
I disagree. It's only scum who think that this type of behaviour is acceptable so by implementing policies which remove the majority of scum from normal society you go a long way to "fixing a world where this kind of thing is deemed acceptable". Unfortunately the majority of politicians from both major parties have no interest in doing what is right for the country and will never make decisions that might be unpopular with any section of society that they fear will stop voting for them as a consequence.
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Hurst has a hissy-fit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/7892585.stm?lss) :lol:
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Friendly football rivalry (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/16/facebook_honeypot/) :lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M6fDAq4hb8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M6fDAq4hb8)
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Genius.
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That is absolutely brilliant! It is also NSFW!
bluebrad
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A new reality TV show in the offing "Celebrity Euthenasia, Get me Out of Here" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7892818.stm?lss) :whistle:
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A new reality TV show in the offing "Celebrity Euthenasia, Get me Out of Here" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7892818.stm?lss) :whistle:
I have mixed feelings about the whole Jade Goody thing. Sadly, its almost ironic that a woman who's career was made from nothing on reality TV will seemingly live out a reality TV end.
But, I think she is right to do what she is doing for a three of reasons...
Firstly making money to support her son/family when she's gone (although I suspect she already has loads..),
Secondly since she announced her illness ;late last year smear tests in the UK have risen by 20% (according to yesterdays observer) which can only be a good thing.
Thirdly because it raises awareness of how horrible an end terminal cancer can be. I shall have to explain.. I used to be a bit 'whatever' about cancer until my girlfriends (now an ex) father contracted a couple of forms of cancer which over 18 months proved terminal. I knew him really well, and whilst I wasnt part of the family, I witnessed the roller coaster of succeses, failures, new treatments, setbacks etc.. and eventually his death. Death is not easy for any family, but this really opened my eyes as to just how cruel cancer can be - the slow decline seemed to twist the knife (forgive the phrase..).
What sickens me about this whole eposide is Max Clifford.
I'm sure he will be taking a fee on all this - and even if he does donate his fee to charity or whatever, he (personally) will still be making publicity and thus future monies for himself. I dont know the man, but this strikes me of leech like behaviour of the highest order. Wanker.
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I have mixed feelings about the whole Jade Goody thing. Sadly, its almost ironic that a woman who's career was made from nothing on reality TV will seemingly live out a reality TV end.
But, I think she is right to do what she is doing for a three of reasons...
Firstly making money to support her son/family when she's gone (although I suspect she already has loads..),
Secondly since she announced her illness ;late last year smear tests in the UK have risen by 20% (according to yesterdays observer) which can only be a good thing.
Fair enough reasons indeed.
Thirdly because it raises awareness of how horrible an end terminal cancer can be. I shall have to explain.. I used to be a bit 'whatever' about cancer until my girlfriends (now an ex) father contracted a couple of forms of cancer which over 18 months proved terminal. I knew him really well, and whilst I wasnt part of the family, I witnessed the roller coaster of succeses, failures, new treatments, setbacks etc.. and eventually his death. Death is not easy for any family, but this really opened my eyes as to just how cruel cancer can be - the slow decline seemed to twist the knife (forgive the phrase..).
I agree with this too, but its not just cancer. Ultimately there is no "nice" way to day, whether its from cancer or anything else that slowly eats away at the body or mind. Only a very tiny proportion of the population will "slide away in their sleep", a slightly larger proprtion (but still a minority) will be (un)fortuante enough to have their lives ended abruptly by an unfortunate accident. Everyone else will generally have to endure their body deteriorating whilst their mind is sharp or vice-versa.
T'is a fact of life unfortunately, and because of the stigma/taboo around death it rarely gets discussed particularly as you're growing up.
What sickens me about this whole eposide is Max Clifford.
I'm sure he will be taking a fee on all this - and even if he does donate his fee to charity or whatever, he (personally) will still be making publicity and thus future monies for himself. I dont know the man, but this strikes me of leech like behaviour of the highest order. Wanker.
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Yeah, he needs to be hit with a bit of Hicks reality...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo)
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Reports of Jade Goody's imminent demise struck me as possibly the best proof so far that prayer does work. And God, like tv censorship, is more easily swayed by the indignation of the masses than genuine sentiment.
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No Shit Sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7893890.stm)
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No Shit Sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7893890.stm)
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/former-mi5-chief-finally-gets-it-200902171583/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/former-mi5-chief-finally-gets-it-200902171583/)
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The Daily Mash says what I think so often I'm starting to get concerned that they are reading my mind.
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I love that story - it's like someone gave her 'The Power of Nightmares' as a birthday present or something.
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The Daily Mash is always a source of much amusement such as this classic from the archives (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/leo-conceived-after-i-wore-a-bag-on-my-head%2c-reveals-cherie-20080513946/).
bluebrad
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The Daily Mash says what I think so often I'm starting to get concerned that they are reading my mind.
What does your mind say on the subject of giant rats (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/animals/animals-headlines/%27look-at-the-size-of-this-f*cking-rat%27-say-zoologists-20080105608/) jasper?
bluebrad
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I think they read half the regular posters minds when writing this article (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/daily-alcohol-limits-not-really-working-for-us%2c-say-drinkers-200901231531/) :beer1: :beer2: :alky: :pissed:
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A new reality TV show in the offing "Celebrity Euthenasia, Get me Out of Here" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7892818.stm?lss) :whistle:
Its a start (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7896807.stm?lss) :shrug:
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She's being filmed in hospital throughout her treatment too, and they're doing updates, with quotes, in The Sun each day. It's mental, surely you'd want some privacy and peace?
The film of the wedding will be produced by Kate Jackson, who is also one of the bridesmaids
That says it all really, doesn't it, surely she must have some friends who could be her bridesmaids? It's sad.
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I think they read half the regular posters minds when writing this article (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/daily-alcohol-limits-not-really-working-for-us%2c-say-drinkers-200901231531/)
I rather like Emma's quote:
"How's about this? As an adult, I think a reasonable daily limit is me drinking as much as I fucking want.
"If it affects my work I'll get sacked. If it affects my relationships I'll be all lonely and sad.
"And as for my health, following a quick glance at my tax bill I've decided that the NHS will treat me and the government can keep its fucking opinions to itself."
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The film of the wedding will be produced by Kate Jackson, who is also one of the bridesmaids
That says it all really, doesn't it, surely she must have some friends who could be her bridesmaids? It's sad.
Not wishing to be seen as condoning this whole miserable freak show in any way, shape or form but you obviously went off on one before you could read the next paragraph...
"Goody has also asked two other close friends to act as bridesmaids."
bluebrad
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you obviously went off on one before you could read the next paragraph...
You obviously have never seen a lady go off on one if you think it looks like my previous post :P ;)
I saw she was having 'two close friends', I just can't quite work out having the TV producer too. But then I can't really work out any of it. :shrug:
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I was until today unaware of what jade Goody looked like and have never seen Big Brother and really don't give a shit, but if I knew I was to die in x months and could provide financially for Hugo by blowing Gordon Brown on the steps of Downing Street I'd be down on my knees sucking man beef.
I commend her for playing her role to the end.
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but if I knew I was to die in x months and could provide financially for Hugo by blowing Gordon Brown on the steps of Downing Street I'd be down on my knees sucking man beef.
A mental image of such profoundly disturbing proportions that I may need to lobotomize myself with a spoon in order to rid myself of it. Loss of higher brain function seems a paltry price to pay.
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Indeed. I might try using a soldering iron.
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Providing for her kids - fine. They will obviously start off with a fuckload more money than 99% of children in this country - but no mother so that's still quite sad. Blah blah blah couldn't really care less. There are loads of nicer people in similar situations (but without the cash) who don't get a second thought from "the general public".
What I do find offensive is that everything to do with this wretched chav is broadcast as "news". Also, suddenly all these people who derided Goody for being the scummy horrible talentless money grabber that she is now suddenly see the same behaviour traits as saintly just because she's dying.
Unfortunately even her death wont be the end of it. I wonder how much OK have paid for rights to the funeral where Elton John will no doubt get in on the act again. Although "Goodbye England's Scroat" doesn't quite have the same ring to it I'm sure the pug faced, syrup headed, griefmongering queen wont be able to resist.
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When she goes I'm sure there well be mountains of flowers left by wellwishers outside branches of argos the length and breadth of the country.
The idea of trying to provide for your kids is a great one, but as J-note points out, she's minted already, and the dignity and privacy that her kids can enjoy for years to come by not having had every waking moment of their mum's long and drawn-out death broadcast and analysed in the tabloids for several months is something that money can't buy. Sometimes it's not about the cheque.
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I made my views pretty clear in an earlier post. But another thing that saddens me about all this is how 'reality' has shifted for Jade Goody herself. SHe was once a fairly normal person (OK thats debatable, but you know what i mean) then via BB she became some sort of reality celebrity - and was very successful at it. Despite the Shilpa Shetty episode she was the most successful (financially) of the BB contestants.
What disturbs me, is that this new 'reality star' life has become the norm for her. So when something terrible happens and her life is ending - instead of retreating to what I (and most people?) woudl consider normal safe places - friends, family, wherever you feel comforable - its all hung out in a public spectacle. This has become her new norm - being in - and ending her life - in the public eye instead. So she wants/feels comfortable ending it all in front of the camera instead of with friends/family.
Its weird on all sorts of levels.
It could be a Chris Morris program (if it wasnt real).
If it really wasnt so sad, I'd be laughing about it..
I'm no philosopher, but theres something clammily postmodern about it...
As I posted earlier, good for her thinking of her kids and good for her for raising awareness of cancer. But please stop the peeproadshow. Max Clifford.....
I heard on tthe radio that Mohammad (no chance passport) Al Fayedd had donated a wedding dress from Harrods. Sure, if he really cared for her it would be anonymous etc.. instead I can imagine the call. "Hi there is that Harrods, its Fiona here from Max Cliffords office.. we're covering Jade GOodies tragic wedding and wondered if Mohammed and Harrods might have a dress they could give her?.... Yeah? Great? OK, and we'll make sure Mohammed and Harrods are mentioned copiously in the press releases"... thats the way it all works... Sickening.
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since the momentum has run out of the "The Queen killed my son" theory old Mo has to get some free advertising from somewhere. You forget that this is the man who went on the ali-g show on the basis that there's no such thing as bad publicity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bYjGHRX9dE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bYjGHRX9dE)
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There is a thread on Cocktalk "Poor Jade Goody" started by Al Evans and saying how he feels bad for all the things he's said about her (see above). A quick glance revealed anyone daring to say anything bad about her being burned at the stake ("I take it YOU don't have CHILDREN!" etc).
Hilarious! It really is Daily Mail South Central.
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So as soon as you someone you have slagged off has some misfortune, then you feel bad?
Fuck it, if that wanker Chris Martin dies horribly tomorrow, I suspect i would live with the bad feelings, knowing he won't have to subject the world to another note. Happy to take it for the team.
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have you read the old TvGoHome website, with all the "Daily Mail Island" episodes? Genius on that theme.
http://www.tvgohome.com/1102-2000.html (http://www.tvgohome.com/1102-2000.html)
http://www.tvgohome.com/0704-2000.html (http://www.tvgohome.com/0704-2000.html)
http://www.tvgohome.com/2502-2000.html (http://www.tvgohome.com/2502-2000.html)
etc etc
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I think there are distinctions to be drawn. Jade Goody is thick and ignorant and her rise to fame and riches is a product of the general publics satisfaction with lowest common denominator television. She has in the course of her career expressed views and opinions that are distastful. The sad fact is these views are probably to a large extent the views of the common man in the street, as that is after all what she is. She has chosen to stick her head above the celebrity parapet, and as such she is fair game for comment on her actions and statements. Regardless of her medical state. However revelling in her impending demise seems a totally different bucket of kidneys. She's not Pol Pot, or Hitler, or etc etc etc.... She's just a stupid person in a shit situation which she probably isn't well prepared to handle. I wish her well for the future and hope that her current course of action realises the results she is hoping for. I still think she's thick and ignorant, but these things aren't crimes. I'm more concerned about a society that wishes to create this type of celebrity than the celebrity themselves.
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I think there are distinctions to be drawn. Jade Goody is thick and ignorant and her rise to fame and riches is a product of the general publics satisfaction with lowest common denominator television. She has in the course of her career expressed views and opinions that are distastful. The sad fact is these views are probably to a large extent the views of the common man in the street, as that is after all what she is. She has chosen to stick her head above the celebrity parapet, and as such she is fair game for comment on her actions and statements. Regardless of her medical state. However revelling in her impending demise seems a totally different bucket of kidneys. She's not Pol Pot, or Hitler, or etc etc etc.... She's just a stupid person in a shit situation which she probably isn't well prepared to handle. I wish her well for the future and hope that her current course of action realises the results she is hoping for. I still think she's thick and ignorant, but these things aren't crimes. I'm more concerned about a society that wishes to create this type of celebrity than the celebrity themselves.
Well put Nik. :agree:
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Of course the same people who slag / deify Goody and the like are the ones buying OK magazine / The Sun thereby paying for their lifestyles and perpetuating the whole fucked up situation.
:shrug: :wall:
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No argument from me there. Like I said more concerned about the society than the celebrity....
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Revelling in her impending demise seems a totally different bucket of kidneys. She's not Pol Pot, or Hitler, or etc etc etc.... She's just a stupid person in a shit situation which she probably isn't well prepared to handle. I wish her well for the future and hope that her current course of action realises the results she is hoping for. I still think she's thick and ignorant, but these things aren't crimes. I'm more concerned about a society that wishes to create this type of celebrity than the celebrity themselves.
Well said. Some of the recent comments on this thread have done their authors no favours at all.
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I fail to see one comment on this thread that could be construed as "revelling in her impending demise". I assumed that nik's comment was with regard to the attitude shown by some people (such as the website set up predicting when Goody will die) rather than anyone on here. And I agree with everything he said.
Duma, what are you on about?
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Anyone who consciously chooses to place themselves prominently in the media's eye has to accept that they are going to attract positive and negative commentary. Some of this will invariably be distasteful (in both directions, sycophancy isn't an attractive trait).
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I fail to see one comment on this thread that could be construed as "revelling in her impending demise". I assumed that nik's comment was with regard to the attitude shown by some people (such as the website set up predicting when Goody will die) rather than anyone on here. And I agree with everything he said.
Duma, what are you on about?
Possibly this...
Reports of Jade Goody's imminent demise struck me as possibly the best proof so far that prayer does work.
Despite agreeing with most of whats been said on this thread, it does seem a tad harsh.
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You need to quote JB in the context of the rest of his post.....
And God, like tv censorship, is more easily swayed by the indignation of the masses than genuine sentiment.
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Anyhoo
Irish super felon still at large
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm?lss (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm?lss)
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Anyhoo
Irish super felon still at large
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm?lss (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm?lss)
Thats quality: "Prawo Jazdy is actually the Polish for driving licence and not the first and surname on the licence," read a letter from June 2007 from an officer working within the Garda's traffic division. "
Reminds me of a friend who came to visit me in Aberystwyth by train and said he got really confused by the time he'd been through the 5th station called 'Gorsaf'.... :)
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The Internet is bad for your health (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7898510.stm) :(
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The Internet is bad for your health (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7898510.stm) :(
Thats me fucked then ::)
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The Internet is bad for your health (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7898510.stm) :(
Thats me fucked then ::)
Yeah, I'm perfectly happy living with my PC in a darkened room and only catching glimpses of 'the outside' as I snatch my shopping from the tesco home delivery guy. Who needs to see other humans eh.. pah.
Its a bit of a no shit sherlock story.. if you spend all your time doing one thing or staying in one place - of course it makes you socially dysfunctional! I'll tell you its nearly happened to me after spending hours under demon wall roof..... ;)
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Google ad at the bottom of this page:
http://tinyurl.com/dfra74 (http://tinyurl.com/dfra74)
???
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"We both got out. There was no damage and Miss P***** is a fat chav who definately (sic) does not have whiplash."
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090219/tuk-fat-chav-insurance-claim-form-leaked-45dbed5.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090219/tuk-fat-chav-insurance-claim-form-leaked-45dbed5.html)
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Michael O'Leary at his 'best'... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/feb/19/ryanair-mobilephones)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2009/2/19/1235058779717/Michael-OLeary-dressed-as-001.jpg)
Lagers.. where are you, we need your captioning skills....
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Just when you thought Ryanair flights couldn't get any more annoying. :(
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Just when you thought Ryanair flights couldn't get any more annoying. :(
Yup, I'd rather suck a fart from a dead seagull than get on one of his flights again...
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Having watched a tv programme about the way they cut corners on safety........ :agree:
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Whilst waiting for the painful spasm in my back to subside I started looking for advice on how best to video my Betta (http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/fish/Bettafish-SiameseFightingFish-Closeup.jpg), I came across this story.
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1773 (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1773)
I shan't be using this technique; no matter how interesting the resultant video might be ::)
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Whilst waiting for the painful spasm in my back to subside I started looking for advice on how best to video my Betta (http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/fish/Bettafish-SiameseFightingFish-Closeup.jpg), I came across this story.
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1773 (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1773)
I shan't be using this technique; no matter how interesting the resultant video might be ::)
:o that is exceptionally bizzare!
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Saucy!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7903012.stm?lss)
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Hard to believe this type of thing still goes on in the 21st Century... (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-unmasked-the-images-that-reveal-the-ku-klux-klan-is-alive-and-kicking-in-2009-1625732.html) >:(
(http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00135/klan_sign_135558d.jpg)
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Whilst waiting for the painful spasm in my back to subside I started looking for advice on how best to video my Betta (http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/fish/Bettafish-SiameseFightingFish-Closeup.jpg), I came across this story.
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1773 (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1773)
I shan't be using this technique; no matter how interesting the resultant video might be ::)
what's wrong with your back lagers?
Mine damn well killing me at the mo... got me a massive dose of acupuncture y'day to relive the spasm of holding myself wierd coz of a couple of broken ribs.... feels better have to say!
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what's wrong with your back lagers?
Cramp/spasm in neck, trapezius and jaw leading to all round pain leaking into whole back, shoulder, elbow and forearm. Due to an old neck injury (hatch of a lead roof fell on my head). Thought I was going to need A&E on Friday night, but lying on the floor (and sleeping there in the least painful position) and lots of pain killers left me feeling much better on Saturday. For some reason my usual management techniques/stretches/exercises were just making everything worse. Even managed a couple of easy problems at the works and moderate DIY today. Concentrating hard on holding reasonable posture now.
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Currently suffering with a suspected trapped nerve in my neck as well but in an effort to get this thread back on track here is the Dailymash's take on the Oscars (http://tinyurl.com/bh4q5t).
bluebrad
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University Challenge winner in PrOn shoot (http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/headlines/4149523.Lads_mag_eye_quiz_show_winner/) :-\
(http://women.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00492/Gail-Trimble_492179a.jpg)
(I'm hamming up the headline a little..)
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Grandad on wheels (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7908446.stm?lss)
He's clearly going at a fair pace, but seems to be quite in control, and gives everyone plenty of space. The news report doesn't seem to indicate exactly whether he was found to have been causing danger or annoyance.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7909561.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7909561.stm)
I knew a Kenneth Tuckey once.
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Government Opens up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm)
Now they'll have a ton of money that they would have spent on software license to improve health-care/schools/roads/etc. Oh wait, hang-on what was I thinking, I forgot about all the excessive reports/investigations that need paying for and our continued intrusion in other countries.
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Toga Rampage (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7911289.stm)
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Books/Pix/pictures/2008/07/24/loo460.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/26/toilet-roll-america)
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They should stick this on the national curriculum then...
(http://www.millsworks.net/images/how_to_shit.jpg)
..or get used to using...
(http://www.jeremyinc.com/images/recycled_toilet_paper.JPG)
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no shit
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no shit
!! Charmin eh...
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I've always found the idea of "quilted" toilet roll, etc quite ridiculous. Unless you've got piles the size of lemons use recycled.
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I've always found the idea of "quilted" toilet roll, etc quite ridiculous. Unless you've got piles the size of lemons use recycled.
is this the answer?
(http://www.poopreport.com/Images/Consumer/Content/Bidet/Images/colon_bidet.jpg) (http://www.sodahead.com/question/257232/worlds-longest-fingernails-break-in-crash-how-did-she-wipe-her-butt-before/?page=4)
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You could have an iced water input for maximum pile relief :)
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Is that Uptown?!
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On a kind of related note, just when you thought Ryanair couldn't get any worse (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090227/tod-oukoe-uk-ryanair-toilet-d987f7f.html), think again. Now they want people to pay to pee.
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Madness - so you're busting for a shit but don't have the right coin - what are you going to do?
Roll on lots of little "presents" under seats being found by the cleaners after the flight :lol:
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And waterbottles full of piss.
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And waterbottles full of piss.
They could keep them and take them to the gigs to throw around :P
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Fuck Ryanair.
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/ryanair_caught_napping.php (http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/ryanair_caught_napping.php)
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The 3 comments are spot on
scallywag Posted 249 days ago There's a saying that goes; ''it's free as long as you can afford it.''
This documentary shows the throngs of capitalism at its most explicit. On one hand you have the consumer who is seeking the ultimate product at the least possible price, and then there's the producer or rather the provider of the service who is mandated to deliver the maximum product at the most minimum price incursion to themselves and last of all there is the worker being exploited as well as the worker who exploits the very rules/standards he claims his employer abuses.
All in all everyone is using some one, and they may think they're getting a great deal but the day one of these plane crashes or is hijacked or the consumer revolts we are willing to pay the price on the ticket but claim short memory when obliged to pay the price not actually listed on the ticket.
ebony Posted 273 days ago Eye opening to say the least. I fly all the time but I´ve never flown with Ryan air. This film doesn´t put me off flying with them however, as anybody with any intelligence at all and who flys often knows full well that every other airline encounters the same problems and is not much better. It doesn´t matter how much you may have paid for your ticket.
Karen Posted 411 days ago This is spot-on. The Bean-Counters are running the show,however as consumers in search of cheap air-fares,we must bear responsibility. Perhaps we need to look at what the culture of cut-rate fares has resulted in,it's all right here in this film!
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They should stick this on the national curriculum then...
(http://www.millsworks.net/images/how_to_shit.jpg)
..or get used to using...
(http://www.jeremyinc.com/images/recycled_toilet_paper.JPG)
Anyone remember the margret thatcher bog paper from the miner's strike? PS I still have my NUM support the miners badge which was the hitching accessory in the summer of 85
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This is spot-on. The Bean-Counters are running the show,however as consumers in search of cheap air-fares,we must bear responsibility. Perhaps we need to look at what the culture of cut-rate fares has resulted in,it's all right here in this film!
Oh come on. You are not entitled to cheap air travel. The airline provides the service and demands a certain sum for it. If you rate the service as less valuable than the price asked then don't fly. Simple.
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Exactly. They (the airline) are what they are because that is what we want. If you want cheap flights be prepared to travel pirate class. I personally love it and would not swap cheap cattle class tickets for sitting on the beach at Bridlington. Gone are those days.
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"Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand and his fiancee Rebecca Ellison have arranged for a barn owl to swoop down the aisle and deliver their rings in a velvet pouch when they get married in August. (Daily Mirror)" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7918148.stm)
Nice to know football weddings are not being spoilt by the financial downturn :greed:
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It'll be just like a mail drop at Hogwarts! :lol:
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http://www.wiltsglosstandard.co.uk/news/4160693.Unique_snowdome_plan_unveiled_for_Swindon_could_be_the_first_in_the_UK/ (http://www.wiltsglosstandard.co.uk/news/4160693.Unique_snowdome_plan_unveiled_for_Swindon_could_be_the_first_in_the_UK/)
Anyone intrigued by the engineering principles?
"The slope itself would be powered by electro-magnets which would carry the user down and up the slopes without the use of a ski lift.
The slope would be kept at room temperature but would pass through refrigerated fake mountains to keep the snow from melting"
wtf??
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http://www.wiltsglosstandard.co.uk/news/4160693.Unique_snowdome_plan_unveiled_for_Swindon_could_be_the_first_in_the_UK/ (http://www.wiltsglosstandard.co.uk/news/4160693.Unique_snowdome_plan_unveiled_for_Swindon_could_be_the_first_in_the_UK/)
Anyone intrigued by the engineering principles?
"The slope itself would be powered by electro-magnets which would carry the user down and up the slopes without the use of a ski lift.
The slope would be kept at room temperature but would pass through refrigerated fake mountains to keep the snow from melting"
wtf??
WTF indeed, surely gravity is sufficient to get users down the slope :-\
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And as for the slope passing through refrigerated fake mountains?
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Sounds like the mythical Ski Trac (http://www.skitrac.com/)
Its the ski surface that floats on magnets and rotates constantly - providing a continuous slope. It goes under a cooling/grooming area on the down part of its cycle. Interesting design concept, much like the continuous climbing wall idea...
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"Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand and his fiancee Rebecca Ellison have arranged for a barn owl to swoop down the aisle and deliver their rings in a velvet pouch when they get married in August. (Daily Mirror)" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7918148.stm)
Nice to know football weddings are not being spoilt by the financial downturn :greed:
Genius. I hope it shits on her dress and pecks him in the face.
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Sounds like the mythical Ski Trac (http://www.skitrac.com/)
Its the ski surface that floats on magnets and rotates constantly - providing a continuous slope. It goes under a cooling/grooming area on the down part of its cycle. Interesting design concept, much like the continuous climbing wall idea...
Interesting. So not like they described it all then. Great reporting. Probably more environmental to fly everyone to the alps for a day.
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Ski Trac haven't actually made a real live slope yet, but they have made a model.
Look I've made a compilation of clips of their model ;D
(might not be ready yet, but I'm posting in a hurry at work)
http://vimeo.com/3437543 (http://vimeo.com/3437543)
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A compolation you say? :)
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A compolation you say? :)
don't know what you mean :whistle:
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Ice and a slice with that sir? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7920576.stm)
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Ski Trac haven't actually made a real live slope yet, but they have made a model.
Look I've made a compilation of clips of their model ;D
(might not be ready yet, but I'm posting in a hurry at work)
That's a lot of heelturns (or toe turns if you a spazzy)
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Cut the fucking tax you idiots (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7922838.stm)
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OK, I think this is an interesting one.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7923718.stm)
My first glance summary is: Couple who the neighbours hate and are probably wanker neighbours...
So people either side of them set up CCTV cameras to keep an eye on them.. people living in the house with the cameras pointing at it, pretend to have sex in the garden to piss off their neighbours - but they only see it on their CCTV cameras - and the couple pretending to have sex get done...
Now, if there were no cameras no-one would know, so there would be no crime (god is this going to go the way of does a person actually scream if no-one hears them type philosophy gubbins..)... I suspect most of the case is because of harrasment by the couple who dont sound like great people to have next door..
:-\
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OK, I think this is an interesting one.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7923718.stm)
My first glance summary is: Couple who the neighbours hate and are probably wanker neighbours...
So people either side of them set up CCTV cameras to keep an eye on them.. people living in the house with the cameras pointing at it, pretend to have sex in the garden to piss off their neighbours - but they only see it on their CCTV cameras - and the couple pretending to have sex get done...
Now, if there were no cameras no-one would know, so there would be no crime (god is this going to go the way of does a person actually scream if no-one hears them type philosophy gubbins..)... I suspect most of the case is because of harrasment by the couple who dont sound like great people to have next door..
:-\
This completely contradicts the previous instance where people were having sex and caught on CCTV but not found guilty of indecent exposure (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10191.msg180847.html#msg180847).
That said its likely because they were charged with non-violent harassment as opposed to indecent exposure, and the CCTV has provided unequivocal evidence that they were in fact purposefully harassing their neighbours. What they should have done was just have sex rather than simulate it :P
Also the couple in question should have taken issue to being filmed in the first place. There are, as I understand, a ton of issues regarding using CCTV, such as the images have to be retained and made available for a reasonable period, should they be requested by anyone who is captured on film, who is entitled to view such images under the Data Protection Act. There are also similar guidelines on the destruction of such images after that time period has elapsed.
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Distant relative of Fiend kicks up a fuss. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/04/mcnuggets_911_drama/)
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BNP in own foot shooting amusement. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/04/polish_spitfire/)
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Distant relative of Fiend kicks up a fuss. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/04/mcnuggets_911_drama/)
Why did cops respond in the first place, fucking idiots :wall:
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Brown requests Goodwin rendition. (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/make-goodwin-give-back-his-pension%2c-brown-tells-obama-200903031616/) :whistle: :lol:
Edit - fucking hell the Obama watch article's even funnier.
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I think there are distinctions to be drawn. Jade Goody is thick and ignorant and her rise to fame and riches is a product of the general publics satisfaction with lowest common denominator television. She has in the course of her career expressed views and opinions that are distastful. The sad fact is these views are probably to a large extent the views of the common man in the street, as that is after all what she is. She has chosen to stick her head above the celebrity parapet, and as such she is fair game for comment on her actions and statements. Regardless of her medical state. However revelling in her impending demise seems a totally different bucket of kidneys. She's not Pol Pot, or Hitler, or etc etc etc.... She's just a stupid person in a shit situation which she probably isn't well prepared to handle. I wish her well for the future and hope that her current course of action realises the results she is hoping for. I still think she's thick and ignorant, but these things aren't crimes. I'm more concerned about a society that wishes to create this type of celebrity than the celebrity themselves.
Just to raise the head of this ugly beast topic once again, a friend of mine commented....
I never understood why a racist bully is despised and vilified, but a dying racist bully is eulogised and lavished with gifts, money and fame
I could only :agree:
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Yep.
Also, suddenly all these people who derided Goody for being the scummy horrible talentless money grabber that she is now suddenly see the same behaviour traits as saintly just because she's dying.
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Yep.
Also, suddenly all these people who derided Goody for being the scummy horrible talentless money grabber that she is now suddenly see the same behaviour traits as saintly just because she's dying.
Ooops, missed that, not surprised there is concurrence though.
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Trying to drag this thread away from Jade Goody...
Hits from the bong... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/04/marijuana-bong-cat-us)
Miaow!
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Thats very cruel, although when I used to schmoke inside one of our cats used would invariably come and sit in the same room within a few minutes of sparking up.
Not so lucky! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7923356.stm) :lol:
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Cut the fucking tax you idiots (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7922838.stm)
Heir to the rescue (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7922891.stm) :thumbsup:
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What a fucking disgrace (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7919661.stm)
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My analysis of this thread recently has revealed two options for the BNP to improve their popularity
1) Employ J Goody as their spokesperson - she is a well known thick racist and now that she is dying people are cutting her some slack.
2) My favourite option - All senior BNP members should start dying, then the public will feel more kindly disposed towards them. When the senior members die they are replaced by the next most senior members who will also start dying and so on. This way all BNP members will see the image of their party improve during their lifetime and the rest of us will soon be rid of them.
sweet :thumbsup:
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I'd go with option 2) there Lagers, nice thinking.
In your face Mandelson (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7927668.stm) :lol: 8)
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What (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2296574.ece) a complete (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2299696.ece) and utter (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7927280.stm) cunt. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/4945225/Ashley-Cole-lets-down-Chelsea-and-football.html)
Words fail me for the dislike I have for this person.
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In your face Mandelson (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7927668.stm) :lol: 8)
Good shot that woman - I wonder if Mandelson thought it was Guacamole at first?
bluebrad
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What (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2296574.ece) a complete (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2299696.ece) and utter (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7927280.stm) cunt. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/4945225/Ashley-Cole-lets-down-Chelsea-and-football.html)
Words fail me for the dislike I have for this person.
Words may fail you Jasper but your linking skills give a hint of the esteem that you hold "Cashley" in... Just wish the Daily Mash would hurry up and do a news report on it. :(
bluebrad
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Craig's Posters have made the news (http://tools.themercury.com.au/photo-gallery/photo_gallery_popup.php?category_id=2741&offset=0) :lol:
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I think I will have seen everything when I see an Elephant with a prosthetic leg! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7934419.stm)
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Gay blue ducks (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/10/bloke_duck_mounting/) not really helping UK numbers grow - to be honest it is a fairly crap story but the names of the ducks in question is mildly amusing. :whistle:
bluebrad
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named Ben and Jerry - "They stay together all the time, parading up and down their enclosure and whistling to each other"
The School?
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As a statistician I was pleased to read today an article on the BBC web-site advocating the use of appropriate statistics (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7937382.stm) when reporting in the media (in this case including numbers when referring to percentages).
A light-hearted book on this and other abuses is "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff.
(I'm currently :wall: with some surgeons idiots who want to simply quote percentages in a report :furious:)
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Not such a bad idea (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7938282.stm) (although it should be applied to all food groups to be even handed).
Best start stock-piling now Magpie :)
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Fuckinidiot. Will never happen. Need to put a tax on deep frying batter to help the obese. Or Maccy Ds.
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Not such a bad idea (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7938282.stm) (although it should be applied to all food groups to be even handed).
Best start stock-piling now Magpie :)
fuck, if that happens, shabba banks might have to get a full time job!
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Aw diddums. (http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Paying---exwife39s-.5063454.jp) My heart bleeds.
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After the big bushfires over here last month one of our best current affairs strands made a superb chronological record of the events of the 7th/8th of February. I don't know if you can download it over there but if you can it is well worth watching to get some idea of what it was like here. We hit 49 degrees C (with winds in excess of 50 knots 7 humidity at just 6%!) at our place that day and although we're 50-odd miles from where the bad fires were, it was still quite a harrowing day and night.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2009/20090216_fires/interviews.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2009/20090216_fires/interviews.htm)
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The Aussie sex shop B&E perp first mentioned here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10191.msg181946.html#msg181946) has a pretty normal sex life with real girls apparently (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2009/03/13/33101_local-news.html)!!
"I have a girlfriend and our sex life is pretty good, pretty healthy," he said.
Asked if it ever involved blow-up dolls, Rosberg answered "no".
But he did say his girlfriend thought what he did with the dolls that night was "pretty funny really".
Wonders never cease eh?
bluebrad
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This is a cracker. From the Daily Express; the article has now been pulled from the website but unfortunately for them, not before it was cached by Google. (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache%3AXKyIf9W4LgAJ%3Awww.express.co.uk%2Fposts%2Fview%2F88113%2FAnniversary-shame-of-Dunblane-survivors+sunday+express+dunblane&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk&client=firefox-a)
Apparently being involved in, and surviving, a horrible and tragic event like Dunblane when you're young means that it's completely wrong to go on to behave like any regular teenager in your later years. You'd think they were pissing on the graves of the kids who weren't so lucky. :wank:
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Whareas some turned out relatively normal http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/05/tennis.scotland (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/05/tennis.scotland)
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It is stories such as this that this thread was launched for: US woman attacks missus with sperm-filled syringe. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/17/home_insemination/)
bluebrad
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It is stories such as this that this thread was launched for: US woman attacks missus with sperm-filled syringe. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/17/home_insemination/)
bluebrad
:lol: "Lez Get Real" :lol:
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Brother: "Sis, what exactly are you planning to do with my dude-wax once i've coughed it up into this tinfoil?"
Sister: "what am I the fucking answer man? just get wanking alright"
what a family.
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Less corporate bollox please, we're british (http://"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7948894.stm").
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Less corporate bollox please, we're british (http://"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7948894.stm").
Thats going to completely screw up Bullshit Bingo (http://www.bullshitbingo.net/cards/bullshit/)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XcVc_0ykU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XcVc_0ykU)
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Virtual Governmen (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7952213.stm) :wank:
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Half-Man, Half-Machine what does it mean, what does it mean? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7949018.stm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeoQSVMbGCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeoQSVMbGCE)
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new brooker news shit coming up (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/mar/19/newswipe-charlie-brooker)
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I was having an arse of a day until I saw this article :)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45596000/jpg/_45596188_house466300.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm)
(apologies for the cross post - modified after initial post..) (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,5960.msg191980/topicseen.html#msg191980)
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great minds and all that :)
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There really is one born every minute (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7962212.stm) - he works as a driver for a living allegedly - I wouldn't employ him as a stuntcock!!
bluebrad
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shatnav (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Man-on-the-edge-in.5105438.jp)
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Spooky deja vu :)
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Spider-man saves the day (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7961208.stm) :)
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Egyptian Death Texts (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090325/twl-egypt-tries-to-hang-up-on-killer-sms-3cd7efd.html)
(mainly an excuse for me to experiment with 'hyperlinky-magic-blue-text')
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How long until the Hollywood horror flick is released "based on true events"?
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That's not as daft as it sounds. I have had text messages that have caused splitting headaches and nausia. Typically along the lines of "fancy coming to the pub to get hammered?"
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Egyptian Death Texts (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090325/twl-egypt-tries-to-hang-up-on-killer-sms-3cd7efd.html)
(mainly an excuse for me to experiment with 'hyperlinky-magic-blue-text')
Sounds like a modern version of the Jap horror "The Ring".
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Don't bother praying, it does jack shit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7964880.stm) at last some reason, shame it doesn't go further.
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World's unluckiest man still going strong (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7963581.stm) :o
Can you imagine "Shit, I just survived a nuclear blast, think I'll head home and rest" only to be bombed a second time upon arrival!!
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Not very pc but........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html (ftp://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html)
Have we had this one yet?????
If you search for the fatty on the right she was in x-factor
(http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/836.$plit/C_71_article_1028416_image_list_image_list_item_2_image.jpg?14%2F12%2F2007%2008%3A59%3A12%3A265)
Mr Chawner said: ‘We love TV. It’s on from the moment we get up. Often I’m so tired from watching TV I have to have a nap.
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maybe if they cut their dole they would not be able to afford to eat all the shit they obviously do and so would loose weight and would then not be too fucking fat to work???? or is that me being out of order?
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"I'm a student and don't have time to exercise" she said "We all want to lose weight to stop the abuse we get in the street, but we don't know how."
This is one of the most stupid things i have ever read. Could they not be burned as fuel?
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maybe if they cut their dole they would not be able to afford to eat all the shit they obviously do and so would loose weight and would then not be too fucking fat to work???? or is that me being out of order?
No that's perfectly valid, logical reasoning.
Unfortunately some twat in social services will likely see this as discrimination and let them have more money anyway :wank: :wall: :spank: Although I guess with a bit of luck they might eat themselves to death and free up money for treating more serious diseases and/or injuries at hospitals, at least the daughters are self-limiting their chances of procreating and perpetuating such retarded attitudes/views.
Fucking idiots wouldn't know what a gene was if Richard Dawkin's slapped them round the face with a stick and ball model of some DNA, its not hereditary its down to that well known confounder "shared environment" :furious:
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Or that other factor "unshared pies".
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Egyptian Death Texts (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090325/twl-egypt-tries-to-hang-up-on-killer-sms-3cd7efd.html)
(mainly an excuse for me to experiment with 'hyperlinky-magic-blue-text')
love the way the used a generic shot of a person using a mobile as not to confuse those who may have thought these(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:d6Xjj5VzYtNiiM:http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ma/manhattan-toy-infant-stimulation-mobile.jpg)
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World's unluckiest man still going strong (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7963581.stm) :o
Can you imagine "Shit, I just survived a nuclear blast, think I'll head home and rest" only to be bombed a second time upon arrival!!
Like a japanese 1940s answer to paul B.
What that article doesn't mention is his years subsequently spent trying to live a quiet life in the Nevada Desert and French Polynesia.
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Bit extreme. Bet Tsutomu Y's bike was insured when it got nicked.
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World's unluckiest man still going strong (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7963581.stm) :o
Can you imagine "Shit, I just survived a nuclear blast, think I'll head home and rest" only to be bombed a second time upon arrival!!
Reminds me of the world's worst inventor. At a time when lead was considered exciting and new, and put into anything from paint to toothpaste, he had the genius idea of putting it into petrol. He later diverted his attention to refrigeration, and developed CFCs. He later developed polo and devised a contraption to help hom get out of bed, which strangled and killed him.
edit - this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley,_Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley,_Jr.)
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have you been watching repeats of QI by any chance?
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No. Don't really watch it. Was my high school science teacher mate who told me about it.
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http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/story/AEDFDC48C861945BC2257585003A83ED?OpenDocument (http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/story/AEDFDC48C861945BC2257585003A83ED?OpenDocument)
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He missed with both a rocket launcher and a machine gun. L2shoot !
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house price falls more
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm)
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new brooker news shit coming up (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/mar/19/newswipe-charlie-brooker)
A welcome return. good stuff.
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Home Secretary puts blueys on company tab (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7971221.stm)
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Can you imagine anyone being more in the doghouse than him at the moment?
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This really does defy belief and possibly tops Jacqui Smiths husband for gross stupidity! Australia's top judge digs himself into a hole of massive proportions! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7967982.stm)
bluebrad
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Home Secretary puts blueys on company tab (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7971221.stm)
I had a little bet with Mrs Sloper as to which cabinet member would be in the news of the screws this week, I lost but what the hell, this is just too good to be true. So Ms Smith has probably been claiming her second home entertainment budget for years! Bent as, nothing else to say.
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Did I read this on UKB or somewhere else? Just to be sure here it is.
Unlucly Teen's Acne Spells "Arse" (http://www.dailysport.com/view.asp?ID=445)
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Do the Daily Sport actually run any true stories?
How do they get away with making this stuff up?
http://www.dailysport.com/view.asp?ID=184 (http://www.dailysport.com/view.asp?ID=184)
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This is what he would have seen in the mirror
(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/993431_arse.jpg)
Would he have realised that it says "arse" in mirror writing?
Would he ARSE!
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Surely the paper can be prosecuted for marketing complete fabrication as "news"?
I didn't really know anything about the Daily Sport but have just looked through their articles and I didn't see a word of truth in there.
Apparently Obama's aides found some "Clown pr0n" on top of the wardrobe in Dubya's old master bedroom in the White House. Obama then called the ex president to gloat and Bush has subsequently subpoenaed Obama to retrieve his filth. ???
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sadly i don't think delivery of the absolute truth is on the agenda of tabloid newpapers, not least the daily sport. if it was, the mail would have to put an end to all the "gyppos ate my baby" shock headlines.
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At least The Sport has a grand tradition of being completely shameless about making everything up. It's the way The Mail attempts to pass off it's stories as actual news (and succeeds!) that make it a far more sinister publication.
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More sat nav (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/florida_satnav_tasering/) goings on!
bluebrad
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More sat nav (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/florida_satnav_tasering/) goings on!
bluebrad
I sniff rodents. Check the date. And the website.
(although I suspect you know this)
Still funny though.
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Home Secretary puts blueys on company tab (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7971221.stm)
I had a little bet with Mrs Sloper as to which cabinet member would be in the news of the screws this week, I lost but what the hell, this is just too good to be true. So Ms Smith has probably been claiming her second home entertainment budget for years! Bent as, nothing else to say.
I can understand the pleasure many are having in the various sleazy elements of this story, but it's was only a couple of bongo films FFS.
Am I right in thinking that the majority of the media / population have forgotten Stephen Milligan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan)
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:agree:
And the rest! Jeffrey Archer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Archer) anyone? Neil Hamilton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Hamilton_(politician))? Jonathan Bloody Aitken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Aitken)!? :lol:
I really couldn't care less about the "revelation" that MPs fiddle their expenses. NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!! They will all try to screw as much out of the system as possible. Why do you think they wanted the job in the first place? Sloper's joy is (as usual) completely misplaced as It's only a matter of time before the disgraceful, grubby dealings of another Tory are uncovered. Swings and roundabouts.
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It's only a matter of time before the disgraceful, grubby dealings of another Tory are uncovered. Swings and roundabouts.
Indeed - you could argue that the only reason more Labour MP's are getting 'caught' out now is because there are more of them! ;)
Thieves, liars and cheats is the best general description of MP's that I have heard....
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Lagers' mate from France has been at it again dahhn The Smoke:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090402/tuk-spider-man-scales-city-landmark-dba1618.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090402/tuk-spider-man-scales-city-landmark-dba1618.html)
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Lagers' mate from France has been at it again dahhn The Smoke:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090402/tuk-spider-man-scales-city-landmark-dba1618.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090402/tuk-spider-man-scales-city-landmark-dba1618.html)
Tsk, not even a FA
"He last scaled the Lloyd's building in May 2003 in a publicity stunt to promote the Spider-Man film"
Maybe he left some gear on it last time...
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Sense from MPs for once (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/great_british_boozer/) :beer1: :beer2: :pissed: :alky:
As an adult, I think the recommended daily alcohol limit is me drinking as much as I fucking want (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/daily-alcohol-limits-not-really-working-for-us,-say-drinkers-200901231531/)
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Schindler's List rediscovered (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7985004.stm)
Nice idea, shame about the increasingly innumerate population who wouldn't have a clue how to use the information (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7984743.stm)
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What a surprise First Group have their grubby mits in morally/ethically dubious investments (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7985361.stm)
Yet another reason to boycott the money grabbing bastards.
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Ha ha, yeah nice one Schindler, shame about the 6 million that slipped under the net ... Go Spielberg, you fascist cock.
John Rabe is next up in the hotseat as "nazi w/ a conscience" check the film listings for further details. :yawn:
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Sense from MPs for once (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/great_british_boozer/) :beer1: :beer2: :pissed: :alky:
As an adult, I think the recommended daily alcohol limit is me drinking as much as I fucking want (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/daily-alcohol-limits-not-really-working-for-us,-say-drinkers-200901231531/)
Shame this will do fuck all to stop the major problem facing people who want to run pubs. That being the greedy cunts who charge extortionate amounts for leases, rents, refitting costs, advertising and so on making it virtually impossible to turn a profit. I do the accounts for a few pubs and this is by far the biggest problem. The reason you see loads of pubs with "Lease this pub" or "Business opportunity" on them is that nobody wants to take on what is basically a scam. Work like a dog and give all your profit to the brewery/chain company/landlord? No thanks.
A lot of these places would be perfectly profitable if the lease/rent was just reduced to an acceptable level. All the bleating about tax ignores the fact that (e.g.) wholesalers sell "premium" lagers like Stella to independent boozers for about 90p a pint so if the pub sells it for around £2.70 (some places it's a LOT more) then they are still making about £1.50 profit after VAT is taken into consideration. That's not bad and is certainly a big enough mark up to be able to discount it at certain times for promotions etc etc and still turn a profit.
I can see how in certain cases the problem IS the number of people coming through the door but for many it is simply that they are being strangled by corporate greed. The measures proposed by MPs do nothing to address this. I can't see reducing tax or increasing supermarket prices making much difference at all.
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What Jasper says is correct, but there are two other major factors which have made running pubs less profitable.
1. Jasper has taken up climbing and has a child and so spends far less time in the pub than he should
2. I have a stable home life and spend far less time in the pub than I used to
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True. That is actually what did for the Broadfield. :whistle:
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Bet John Terry wished that this had happened (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7984554.stm) when he missed that penalty in the Champions League Final last year. ;)
bluebrad
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What Jasper says is correct, but there are two other major factors which have made running pubs less profitable.
1. Jasper has taken up climbing and has a child and so spends far less time in the pub than he should
2. I have a stable home life and spend far less time in the pub than I used to
True. That is actually what did for the Broadfield. :whistle:
:lol:
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Probably make a more interesting film than Tom Hanks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7986816.stm) :)
Whats wrong with a skin-full, usually has the same effect? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7987061.stm) :P
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Probably make a more interesting film than Tom Hanks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7986816.stm) :)
We wish she could talk, we truly do
Because then she would be worth a fortune? I wish my dog could talk too, and I don't mean saying sausages.
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Whats wrong with a skin-full, usually has the same effect? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7987061.stm) :P
Men who used the treatment five minutes before having intercourse extended their love-making from half a minute to almost four minutes, trials showed.
A whole four minutes. Hello girls.
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Probably make a more interesting film than Tom Hanks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7986816.stm) :)
We wish she could talk, we truly do
Because then she would be worth a fortune? I wish my dog could talk too, and I don't mean saying sausages.
A talking dog you say!? (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,6416.msg133517.html#msg133517)
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Whats wrong with a skin-full, usually has the same effect? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7987061.stm) :P
Men who used the treatment five minutes before having intercourse extended their love-making from half a minute to almost four minutes, trials showed.
A whole four minutes. Hello girls.
They could have got nine if they hadn't waited five minutes, twats :P
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Best friend bites off cock (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Friend_bites_mans_penis_off_in_row&in_article_id=613133&in_page_id=2)
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I misread that as "Fiend" :lol:
'He began hitting me with a chain and then pulled down my trousers and started biting. It was agony,' he said.
Is it me, or does this sound like a shit excuse for getting oral sex of your fiend?
"Oh, I was hoovering whilst naked, slipped and unfortunately fell onto that huge dildo the wife left lying about". Just tie some string to it next time. :wank:
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Wonder if he knows this guy (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=33257&in_page_id=2) :lol:
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...when he suddenly lost his temper. Grabbing a scalpel, he sliced off the penis in front of shocked nursing staff, and then placed it on the operating table where he chopped it into small pieces before storming out of the operating theatre at Bucharest hospital.
Vice-president of the Romanian Doctors Union, Vasile Astarastoae, said: 'Ciomu's case is a dangerous precedent for all Romanian doctors. In future doctors may have to think very carefully about what work they undertake.'
Yeah, right. In future doctors may have to think very carefully about deliberately fucking up people's lives by cutting up their genitals for no good reason.
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Lap Dancing Nun (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7988322.stm) 8)
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note to self: when carrying top secret documents, hold them face-down (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7991307.stm)
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Further proof PETA are a bunch of fuckwits....Rescue Shelter Boys (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7991324.stm).
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Top 3 stories:
1. Fat copper quits after showing the world top secret plans (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7991307.stm)
2. Coppers push man over, later dies. Investigation (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7991206.stm)
3. Copper kills 16 year old whilst doing 90mph in suburbia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7990413.stm)
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Further proof PETA are a bunch of fuckwits....Rescue Shelter Boys (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7991324.stm).
Is it only me that thinks this emotional blackmail based upon misrepresented science directed at children is abhorrent?
http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/daddykills.jpg (http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/daddykills.jpg)
http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/mommykills.jpg (http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/mommykills.jpg)
http://www.petatv.com/flashGall/Mother2.html (http://www.petatv.com/flashGall/Mother2.html)
http://www.milksucks.com/milksuckers.html (http://www.milksucks.com/milksuckers.html)
There is much much much more where that came from. Despicable.
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I know, I'll go for a little swim with the cuddly polar bears! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2009/apr/12/animals-germany?picture=345847068)
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I know, I'll go for a little swim with the cuddly polar bears! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2009/apr/12/animals-germany?picture=345847068)
What a muppet! :shrug:
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Natural selection at work :wall:
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It's clearly Maggers!
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A 32-year-old woman who jumped into a polar bear enclosure during feeding time at Berlin Zoo
I can see the flaw in her plan there.
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this isn't a funny story but I think the headline is a good pun:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8001526.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8001526.stm)
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Is it only me that thinks this emotional blackmail based upon misrepresented science directed at children is abhorrent?
http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/daddykills.jpg (http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/daddykills.jpg)
http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/mommykills.jpg (http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/mommykills.jpg)
http://www.petatv.com/flashGall/Mother2.html (http://www.petatv.com/flashGall/Mother2.html)
http://www.milksucks.com/milksuckers.html (http://www.milksucks.com/milksuckers.html)
There is much much much more where that came from. Despicable.
I missed those, thanks Will, they're amazing, especially the comic ones, in what way do they 'misrepresent science' to you, or were you refering the the milk one?
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I presume all you lot have been watching Newswipe (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jwcb3/Newswipe_Episode_4/?src=a_syn31)
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Yeah Jim, last night's episode about the G20 protest footage was outstanding.
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bloody mcheadwound man was dynamite
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Reality mirrors fiction, Snakes on a Plane (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8001644.stm), although I don't think they'd have needed to break open the emergency Samuel L Jackson to deal with these critters (all < 6")
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Obviously inspired by the How Not To Climb thread
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169658/Did-fall-The-photographic-stuntman-asks-viewers-leap-faith-art.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169658/Did-fall-The-photographic-stuntman-asks-viewers-leap-faith-art.html)
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they said at the time that this was because of privacy concerns that we must respect their right to privacy an argument which is slightly undermined by the fact that Cherie Blair has since written in her autobiography about the actual fuck that conceived the child
Ben Goldacre has some great moments :lol: :lol:
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Going back a bit, Stubbs. I'm sure drinking milk can have some of those effects. However I remain more convinced that drinking milk in moderation and having a balanced diet with regular exercise will leave a child perfectly healthy while promoting good bone structure.
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As would getting the RDA of calcium from another source besides milk, but that's a different discussion entirely....
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But why not drink milk? Unless you have moral reservations of course.
I'm sure milk can have negative effects if consumed in excessive quantities but then so can just about everything else. I've had it on my weetybix since I was young and if anything I'm scrawny rather than fat. I never had a massive problem with spots, just the usual run of the mill stuff I think. As for mucus I can't say I've ever noticed anything abnormal there.
It smacks of scaremongering to those who are most vulnerable to it.
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But why not drink milk? Unless you have moral reservations of course.
Some people are lactose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance) intolerant and can't digest/break-down the major carbohydrate in milk as they don't produce the enzyme lactase. It can be congenital (i.e. genetic, autosomal recessive in this case), but also has a strong environmental component and the prevalence increases with age (e.g. a friend of mine became lactose intolerant after six months in India).
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I'm vegan Will; my reservations are moral, dietary and environmental.
The 'scaremongering' is a nice counterpoint to the promeat and dairy propaganda that is rife in the states.
I am however aware that if god didn't want animals to be eaten he wouldn't have made them taste so good ;D
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Slackers - Ok ok ok. You got me there. I think that is besides the point though. PETA are not targeting lactose intolerant people with that ad campaign though as lactose intolerant people tend to already be intolerant to lactose.
Stubbs - Show me the pro meat and dairy propaganda that you have in mind (I don't doubt that it exists) and I will give you my opinion of it. If it is anything like the PETA stuff then you can rest assured that it will have my swift condemnation which I think you'll find carries a lot of weight :lol:
I have no problem with veganism whatsoever. I occasionally critique vegetarians if they waive meat but are not careful about where they source their eggs from and wear leather jackets. God help you if you are a pescatarian! Fish not cuddly enough for you? However, any debate that I do strike up is never personal and is purely just debate. People can do what they like so long as I can still have my steak as blue as possible.
What I do have a problem with is emotional blackmail of parents by making them appear as inhuman monsters to their children. Sometimes activists become so engrossed in animal welfare that they forget about human welfare (thinking of an ex here who, when she was small and her dad worked for an accounting firm representing an animal testing program, had threats made against her and the family) and this is crazy. I know people whose lives have been saved by drugs that were initially tested on animals. I for one am glad I've still got a mum.
Now look! You've made me rant. I'm up for a discussion on animal rights and related dietary choices if you and others are. It's a broad topic and I'm willing to learn more about it (people generally seem better informed than me, funny that :-\) as well as put forward my own views.
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I've nothing against vegans, I just find it hard to comprehend especially as it rules out wine and most beer, ohh yeah and foie gras......
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I've nothing against vegans, I just find it hard to comprehend especially as it rules out wine and most beer, ohh yeah and foie gras......
I quite like vegans, but couldn't eat a whole one :P
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If god didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25341198-5006785,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25341198-5006785,00.html)
No prizes for guessing which line from which film has been flogged to death on Australian radio for the last day or so! ::)
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God no, it smells like, like a used diaper... filled with... Indian food. Oh, excuse me.
Or am I way off?
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I will smash your face into a car windshield, and then take your mother Dorothy Mantooth out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again.
?
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Looks like the 2nd postmortem on G20 fatality Tomlinson says abdominal bleeding not heart attack... (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Ian-Tomlinson-Died-From-Abdominal-Bleeding-And-Not-A-Heart-Attack/Article/200904315264000?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15264000_Ian_Tomlinson_Died_From_Abdominal_Bleeding_And_Not_A_Heart_Attack)
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No prizes for guessing which line from which film has been flogged to death on Australian radio for the last day or so! ::)
We came to wreck everything, and ruin your life. God sent us
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Indeed, the question is always going to be proving a causal connection between an individuals actions and the cause of death.
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Indeed, the question is always going to be proving a causal connection between an individuals actions and the cause of death.
Absolutely - though from my laymans position 'abdominal bleeding' sounds considerably more likely to be linked to some sort of blow than a heart attack (which I think they could never have linked - handy huh?). I suspect given your legal background you know oodles more about this than me.. but given this 2nd post mortem, and that the first post mortem was carried out by a doctor who has been discredited/criticised before, this one is going to run and run. A conspiracy theorists dream...
I'm interested to see what Boris does about this - after all he loves to be 'in touch' with his people, yet the head of the met is his man.... :-\
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We came to wreck everything, and ruin your life. God sent us
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I will smash your face into a car windshield, and then take your mother Dorothy Mantooth out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again.
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God no, it smells like, like a used diaper... filled with... Indian food. Oh, excuse me.
Or am I way off?
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Of course I didn't consider the possibility that everyone on here had the good taste not to see "Snakes on a Plane"! :oops:
Alternatively, somebody could be taking the piss? :-\
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United Airlines have finally grasped the nettle and are charging 'fatties ' extra if they take up two seats ... The problem with this is that although they're combatting obesity in one way , they could be seen to be seen to be encouraging it another .... ' Fuck you , I've paid for two seats , I want two fucking meals ' .......
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Ok, this is old but WTF? (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece)
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http://www.russiatoday.ru/Top_News/2009-04-14/Hairdresser_turns_robber_into_sex-slave.html?fullstory (http://www.russiatoday.ru/Top_News/2009-04-14/Hairdresser_turns_robber_into_sex-slave.html?fullstory) :lol:
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Man sues neighbour for low sperm count (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blog/editors_corner/article/26357/)
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You got core?!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1172810/The-yoga-supergran-bend-backwards-age-83.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1172810/The-yoga-supergran-bend-backwards-age-83.html)
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Well, would you?
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Indeed, the question is always going to be proving a causal connection between an individuals actions and the cause of death.
Absolutely - though from my laymans position 'abdominal bleeding' sounds considerably more likely to be linked to some sort of blow than a heart attack (which I think they could never have linked - handy huh?).
Abdominal Aortic Aneurysms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_aortic_aneurysm) are actually fairly common (although less common in the under 60s, ~5% of males > 60 are affected) and have an as yet unknown aetiology (which may include a genetic predisposition, although no genes have yet been shown to be strongly linked).
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Noisy sex breaches ASBO (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8021185.stm).
bluebrad
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:lol:
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01392/2804-MATT_1392505a.gif) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/)
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There are no words. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2399352.ece)
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There are no words. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2399352.ece)
Fiend's lovechildren?
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Even I wasn't going to go there this time as I thought it too harsh. :P
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it'd been up there for 4 minutes and no-one made a wisecrack, I felt it my duty to uphold one of the most hallowed unspoken conventions of the forum.
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It was a dirty job, but someone had to do it.
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You gotta admit, it looks like she's been poured into those jeans :lol:
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Poured in and then curdled. ???
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scooped into more like.
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She told Closer magazine:
“I feed my babies vegetables every Sunday, and a lot of the baby food has fruit in it.”
Leanne steers away from healthy foods in case it makes her tots anorexic. She said:
“I don’t want them to think they have to watch what they eat. I’ll tell them big is beautiful.”
Mum Jane said:
“I buy salad, but nobody eats it. They’d rather have sugary foods.”
Have you tried them on crack cocaine? They might like that even more.
NOOOOOO. It is all so wrong!
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There are no words. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2399352.ece)
As far as I'm concerned this is child abuse and she should sort it out otherwise Social Services should take the kids away.
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Highlights:
29-stone mum feeds her eight-month-old triplets McDonald’s
it’s best they try all kinds of food to see what they like
they don’t always have junk food — sometimes I cook a microwave meal
I chew the food first so they can eat it because they haven’t got any teeth yet. :o
She now dresses them just one day a week when she goes out to collect her dole money
steers away from healthy foods in case it makes her tots anorexic
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As far as I'm concerned this is child abuse and she should sort it out otherwise Social Services should take the kids away.
As far as I'm concerned this is child abuse and she should be shot with a whaling harpoon and Social Services should take the kids away.
:agree:
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what I want to know if given she's on the dole and hence not working, and is too fat to basically complete even the most undemanding physical tasks, how on earth can she be "too busy" to feed the kids properly? Whats she doing, running a busy mamagement consultancy firm on the sly? Far be it from me to be judgemental, but what a repugnant piece of shit.
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Don't mess with Dolph (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173697/Burglars-tie-woman--flee-house-realise-shes-married-action-hero-actor-Dolph-Lundgren.html?ITO=1490).
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what I want to know if given she's on the dole and hence not working, and is too fat to basically complete even the most undemanding physical tasks, how on earth can she be "too busy" to feed the kids properly? Whats she doing, running a busy mamagement consultancy firm on the sly? Far be it from me to be judgemental, but what a repugnant piece of shit.
I was wondering how the hell anyone got close enough to impregnate her. Can't be that many blind chav men with huge knobs roaming around surely?
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Use gravity to move the folds out of the way? (http://www.sexyfatgirls.net/Images/2008/11/really-fat-ass.jpg)
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Use gravity to move the folds out of the way? (http://www.sexyfatgirls.net/Images/2008/11/really-fat-ass.jpg)
I'm too scared to click on that link.
Annnnyho.
Snoop cold cocks stage invader with conveniently-shaped prop: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/29/snoop-dogg-denies-hitting-fan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/29/snoop-dogg-denies-hitting-fan)
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Less guns and weapons for all (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8026542.stm), only a good thing. Shame BAE will still have their dodgy arms deals to dictators and human rights abusers under-written by you and I the tax payer, thanks to the ECDG.
(Currently reading Mark Thomas's "As used on the Famous Nelson Mandela", excellent book, shame about the behaviour of the major players, BAE, Government etc. in it, absolutely despicable bunch of :wank:).
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Doh!(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Apr/Week4/15272500.jpg) (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Homer-Simpson-Toy-Swallowed-By-Dixie-The-Dalmatian-Dog-Has-To-Be-Removed-By-A-Vet-In-Scotland/Article/200904415272660?lpos=UK_News_Third_Home_Page_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15272660_Homer_Simpson_Toy_Swallowed_By_Dixie_The_Dalmatian_Dog_Has_To_Be_Removed_By_A_Vet_In_Scotland)
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When Mice Attack!!/url] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8026865.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8026865.stm)
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Don't mess with Dolph (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173697/Burglars-tie-woman--flee-house-realise-shes-married-action-hero-actor-Dolph-Lundgren.html?ITO=1490).
in addition to having a black belt in kicking people's heads in and being rotherham's most prolific boulderer, he has an IQ of 160! That must be bigger than Nige's! Wad.
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How straight can he bowl though?
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EXACTLY.
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would you adam & eve it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8033101.stm)
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would you adam & eve it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8033101.stm)
Not such a bad idea really, it should help curtail the problems associated with an expanding and aging population (the later of which is going to royally screw most western societies in the coming years as the healthcare systems just can't keep up with demands, and you'll see an increase in reports such as the BBC program of a nurse undercover showing elderly and palliative patients left lying in some atrocious conditions). :devangel:
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Sounds like the new version of "Its a Knockout" has been found wanting (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/05/oompa_loompa_brawl/)!
bluebrad
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Don't mess with Chuck either (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3308615.html).
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Mate of mine emailed me this classic bit of journalism from the News Of The Screws.
Gary Glitter does......er.......nothing in particular. (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/288024/Gary-Glitters-new-Rolf-Harris-style-disguise-is-photographed-for-first-time.html)
The non story is typical NOTW shite but it's worth reading for the comments at the bottom of the page. Especially one from an Austrian reader.........
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Mate of mine emailed me this classic bit of journalism from the News Of The Screws.
Gary Glitter does......er.......nothing in particular. (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/288024/Gary-Glitters-new-Rolf-Harris-style-disguise-is-photographed-for-first-time.html)
The non story is typical NOTW shite but it's worth reading for the comments at the bottom of the page. Especially one from an Austrian reader.........
What a marvellous piece of journalism that is!! As you point out jasper the comments really are the best part and this one really stood out:
"How dare this monster try to impersonate a most beloved Rolf Harris who has devoted his life to the welfare of children and animals and why is he allowed to live a life of luxury at our expence!!"
Obviously our indignant NOTW reader had reached the state of extreme apoplexy after the first couple of paragraphs as she missed this:
"...but the former celebrity, who still lives a life of luxury funded by the fortune he earns in royalties"
Class A morons the lot of them!
bluebrad
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Yes a lot of them seem to think that his £1.8m flat is in some way funded by the taxpayer. Fucking retards. I was actually surprised by the number of sensible comments amongst the mongfest considering NOTW's readership.
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The number of sensible comments surprised me too.
Anyway in an effort to get the thread back on track I offer you this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/06/car_prang_secretary/). There must be a moral in there somewhere...
bluebrad
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Mate of mine emailed me this classic bit of journalism from the News Of The Screws.
Gary Glitter does......er.......nothing in particular. (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/288024/Gary-Glitters-new-Rolf-Harris-style-disguise-is-photographed-for-first-time.html)
The non story is typical NOTW shite but it's worth reading for the comments at the bottom of the page. Especially one from an Austrian reader.........
My favourite has to be
Thanks for exposing this. I will be keeping my children safe from now on. If that means keeping them under lock and key in my cellar, so be it.
Brass eye indeed
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My favourite has to be
Thanks for exposing this. I will be keeping my children safe from now on. If that means keeping them under lock and key in my cellar, so be it.
Brass eye indeed
:lol: Who let Joseph Fritzel have net access?
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She should get a refund (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8035369.stm) :whistle:
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:lol: Who let Joseph Fritzel have net access?
Yes the comment is signed Josef F which was the joke I was pointing out in the original post. Keep up people. ;)
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:lol: Who let Joseph Fritzel have net access?
Yes the comment is signed Josef F which was the joke I was pointing out in the original post. Keep up people. ;)
Sorry I didn't read the original article, its a sackable offence here at work and my Linux computers switch off when I've tried navigating to the pages before. :P
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:lol: :lol: :lol: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/8035511.stm)
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good to see you laughing at your own comments there :P
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That was my first thought too. :lol:
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good to see you laughing at your own comments there :P
Would I ever be that retarded? Well yes, I probably would, but not in this instance, clickety-click ;)
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:lol: :lol: :lol: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/8035511.stm)
Beat me to that one there slackers!
bluebrad
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Government ministers in shocking mis-interpretation of EU law (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8037042.stm) Bunch of fucking :wank: the lot of them.
EDIT : Oh, and the proposals are logically inconsistent, given that they propose to wipe DNA from youngsters when they turn eighteen but are proposing to retain it for six to 12 years in case of re-offending. What so <18 year olds aren't going to reoffend when they are >18. Fucking twats!!!
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CUNTS!!!! (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Should-this-be-the-face.5243577.jp)
So a private company is given £14m of public money to improve a public service and then stops the public from using it. As pointed out in one of the links, if they can afford a "human barrier" (backed up by police, nice touch) then why the fuck can they not just have a bloke checking tickets on the entrance to each walkway to the platforms? There are so many things wrong with this.
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CUNTS!!!! (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Should-this-be-the-face.5243577.jp)
So a private company is given £14m of public money to improve a public service and then stops the public from using it. As pointed out in one of the links, if they can afford a "human barrier" (backed up by police, nice touch) then why the fuck can they not just have a bloke checking tickets on the entrance to each walkway to the platforms? There are so many things wrong with this.
Known about this for some time. Its a fucking travesty. Understandably Urban Splash are none too pleased either, being that its a main access point to the city from Park Hill. Councillors are opposed, and its been bought up in parliament already.
There's a web-site at http://www.rasc-sheffield.com/ (http://www.rasc-sheffield.com/) campaigning against the closure.
I have a vague recollection that if somewhere has been treated as a public right-of-way for some time and attempts are made to change access then the fact that its been used and treated as a public right-of-way over-rides the desired change and it has to remain so.
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Old news but still good.
I'll see if uncle is up for it when he gets back from the tnf tour, he likes a challenge
http://www.geekologie.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=power%20tools&blog_id=1 (http://www.geekologie.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=power%20tools&blog_id=1)
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I gotta say that that hasn't impressed me.
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Shirly using two hands is cheating?
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Lower down the powertool nonce sense, is this gem...
Hamster Power (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29596930/) :bow:
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it's not news, but i do like the sport quotes of the week (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/8029269.stm) on the beeb, esp the ones the punters send in.
"Stephen threw everything at me in the first session, including the kitchen sink. The problem for Stephen was I picked it up and threw it back."
Shaun Murphy after beating Stephen Hendry in the quarter-final in Sheffield.
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On a similar theme, but unlikely to be picked up by the BBC, yesterday the sports reporter from Northwest Tonight gushed 'Ronaldo proved what a weapon he is,' as they showed his free kick sailing past Manuel Almunia.
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Anyone on here a fan of The Onion.... 'fake news' from the US. Good satirical articles. A few examples:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/shirtless_biden_washes_trans_am_in?utm_source=a-section (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/shirtless_biden_washes_trans_am_in?utm_source=a-section)
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/stupid_man_overshadowed_by?utm_source=b-section (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/stupid_man_overshadowed_by?utm_source=b-section)
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/seymour_hersh_uncovers_new?utm_source=b-section (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/seymour_hersh_uncovers_new?utm_source=b-section)
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/director_for_aspca?utm_source=b-section (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/director_for_aspca?utm_source=b-section)
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On a similar theme, but unlikely to be picked up by the BBC, yesterday the sports reporter from Northwest Tonight gushed 'Ronaldo proved what a weapon he is,' as they showed his free kick sailing past Manuel Almunia.
Works better if you replace weapon with tool..
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Anyone on here a fan of The Onion.... 'fake news' from the US. Good satirical articles. A few examples:
Read it occasionally, prefer the The Daily Mash (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/).
The idea behind this thread though is for ridiculous news stories that are true.
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Bulletproof Turbans (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/08/bulletproof_turbans/) :shrug:
I don't care if this un-PC, but its their fucking choice to follow a religion which says they can't cut their hair and have to wrap it up in a turban. The "rules" say that to pack a firearm in the police you have to wear a bullet-proof helmet. Therefore make a choice, your religion or your job.
In a similar vein, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of trying to be a model and claiming "equal rights" just 'cause I ain't pretty enough.
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They have a pass from wearing motorbike helmets don't they?
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It's such crap. Why should anyone get special dispensation from abiding by THE LAW just because they choose to say they believe in one version or another of the flying teapot? Fucking bullshit.
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Trent Reznor sorts out Apple (http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?9,651569,page=1) (from the BBC News story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8039779.stm)) :thumbsup:
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What about all the poor Scottish policemen whose Jedi religion demands justice be met with a light saber. Surely the Home office needs to implement this technology in order to protect their human rights. 8)
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It's such crap. Why should anyone get special dispensation from abiding by THE LAW just because they choose to say they believe in one version or another of the flying teapot? Fucking bullshit.
Sorry Jasper but I totally disagree, not because I think that religion is anything other than a load of bollocks and to be disregarded but because of the need for the police to represent the communities it serves and the policing culture where specialist branches are, with a few very minor exceptions, almost solely comprised of white officers.
As such providing specialist equipment, training and development opportunities to ethnic minorities, women etc is more about allowing equal access to all roles within the police service and so better allowing the police to reflect and therefore serve their communities.
Similar arguments were advanced with regard to other equipment to prevent women from serving in some roles and while religion is more easily put aside than gender, equality is for all or it is nothing.
The PC PC
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need for police so serfs the communities they serve
To be honest I very much doubt the "communities" will give two shits what the ethnicity of armed response officers is as they are far more likely to have more pressing matters at the forefront of their mind like "fight or flight".
Admittedly there is the patrolling aspect but there are very few communities where there are regular armed patrols, and even less in communities which have a higher proportion of any given ethnic minority.
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I'm not having a pop, but if you have 'whites only' jobs in the police (dogs, firearms, diplomatic cp etc) and I think that these are (I'm a little out of touch) still at least 99% 'white' then the message is heard wide and clear: the police does discriminate on the grounds of race.
The oath one swears says 'without fear or favour' and the police have a heavy burden to discharge showing that they uphold the spirit of that oath.
Now I have to go prepare a beurre blanc with lime and pink pepper.
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Usual Sheffield anti-climax (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Armed-siege-in-Sheffield-.5248687.jp).
Not very interesting, but I feel robbed. If I had not been on paternity leave I could have used this as an excuse to turn up late for work. I'll pop round later and see if they can do it again in a couple of weeks.
One unfortunate neighbour was sent out to work early while police marksmen used her attic to get a good potential shot lined up - she looked well pissed off.
Front page (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Teenager-barred-from-prom-.5248133.jp) of The Sheffield Star today. Trees died for this :wall:
Is it possible for The Star to ask the Mother why someone with her name in Sheffield who looks like the same person is wearing the exact same dress on Facebook? Surely her Mum didn't spend £300 on a dress for her daughter's prom if she's worn it before the prom.
:lol:
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I'm not having a pop, but if you have 'whites only' jobs in the police (dogs, firearms, diplomatic cp etc) and I think that these are (I'm a little out of touch) still at least 99% 'white' then the message is heard wide and clear: the police does discriminate on the grounds of race.
The oath one swears says 'without fear or favour' and the police have a heavy burden to discharge showing that they uphold the spirit of that oath.
Now I have to go prepare a beurre blanc with lime and pink pepper.
Apologies for the poor quoting, was on the phone.
Its not that the police are discriminating, but that the Sikh's are actively excluding themselves by choosing to wear turbuns, at least thats the way I view it.
Using my (poor) analogy of "models", would you really expect Jason (http://www.sexypeople-blog.com/2009/05/jason.html) to be a model on the grounds of equal opportunities? He doesn't meet the pre-requisite, which for models is a degree of beauty (in the arbitrary eye of some beholder). In the police a pre-requisite for being an armed response officer is being able to wear a protective helmet. If these don't fit over a turbun, simply take the thing off, or (and here's a really good business opportunity) go and design your own alternative and sell it to the police. Don't sit and whinge about discrimination and expect others to make the changes for you, be pro-active about change.
Besides, who said anything about the degree of melanin in Sikh's skin (viz. "whites only")? Your religion (although often correlated due to geographical location and "social inheritance" for want of a better term) is not caused by your skin colour. Its bad to confuse the colour of someone's skin with their religious beliefs and only serves to perpetuate unfounded prejudices (not that I'm accusing you of being so though).
Hope dinner was good
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Hold onto your teaspoons (http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/2009/04/dangers-of-teaspoons.html)
Really, what the fuck is going on here :thumbsup:
Its not just Asda either, Tesco's too (http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/2009/05/nanny-bans-teaspoons-iv.html) now require proof of being >18yrs old to buy a fucking spoon!!!
:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:
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I bet teaspoon sales have rocketed due to inquisitive/mischievous purchasing
I know I'm going to try to buy one at the self service till. Lagers Jr MK1 might enjoy a test purchasing exercise too.
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I find myself in agreement with Sloper (I think this is the second time quite recently, a worrying trend!)
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Hold onto your teaspoons (http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/2009/04/dangers-of-teaspoons.html)
Really, what the fuck is going on here :thumbsup:
Its not just Asda either, Tesco's too (http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/2009/05/nanny-bans-teaspoons-iv.html) now require proof of being >18yrs old to buy a fucking spoon!!!
:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:
I worked in Tescos for a couple of weeks last christmas. Nearly pissed myself laughing when informed I had to ID people for spoons! Its supposedly to make it more difficult for underagers to get into hard drugs, the logic being if you don't have a spoon then you can't cook up smack or some other such nefarious substance. Because of course junkies go into tesco to get their spoons as every restaurant, cafe and coffe shop in the country keeps their cutlery under 24 hour armed surveillance. The idiocy is enough to make you weep.
:wall:
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I find myself in agreement with Sloper (I think this is the second time quite recently, a worrying trend!)
Be very afraid, there's no cure.
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Hold onto your teaspoons (http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/2009/04/dangers-of-teaspoons.html)
Really, what the fuck is going on here :thumbsup:
Its not just Asda either, Tesco's too (http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/2009/05/nanny-bans-teaspoons-iv.html) now require proof of being >18yrs old to buy a fucking spoon!!!
I have just acquired a cutlery safe, as you can't be too careful. Can't think of a worse way to die than someone using your own spoon on you. It's Health and Safety gone mad.
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Any aspiring IV drug user who has gone to the trouble of getting a clean pin and barrel for free from their local needle exchange will also have been offered cooking up pots/spoons for a similar price. Anyone who is going to use a spoon for cooking up is not going to pay for it.
I suspect that the supermarkets are using the "authorisation for spoon purchases" as a way of balancing the number of alcohol sales with the number of age confirmation checks.
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Good Lord, all this spoon business is so Little Britain it's untrue.
FFS I had some woman who was probably younger than me, ask her fuckwit till partner in Somerfield, East Dereham, if she should ID me or no for the claret I was buying. I leaned forward, gave her the full benefit of my crows' feet and Silverback markings and asked her where her Labrador was.
This is one of the reasons Bosnia has a more advanced society than the UK.
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Spoonguard!
Spoonguard!
Spoonguard!
If you don't know Spoonguard, you can SUCK MY FORK!
Spoonguard!
YAY!
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Not had Spoonguard for a while.
Although, ASDA have taken it too far. Ban Spoonguard! (http://www.rathergood.com/banspoonguard)
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Don't
Don't
Don't
Don't believe the hype
You need S P O O N G U A R D !
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An argument for compulsory sterilisation? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1180617/I-want-handouts-says-18-year-old-mother-left-1m-home-Big-Issue-seller.html)
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An argument for saying, if you are on benefits, after child number one (or birth of twins etc x1) you don't get additionall benefits / allowances for further children.
Sadly cases such as this are numerous but lack the news worthy element of the wealthy background of one party.
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Certainly an argument for the Luton Forced Labour Camp.
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An argument for compulsory sterilisation? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1180617/I-want-handouts-says-18-year-old-mother-left-1m-home-Big-Issue-seller.html)
:agree: (although more with Sloper or Jasper than sterilisation).
What I want to know though is how she was allowed to smoke inside the hospital, given that all hospital sites have been smoke free for some time :-\
Puffing on a cigarette, she added: 'I'm a natural with the twins because I'm more grown up. I can't wait to take my babies out of the hospital to show them off.
Reading further though, this surely has to be a joke...
The couple compare themselves to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.
:lol: :lol:
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"At the Scott family home, Catherine's sister Charlotte, 20, said: 'What has she done now, for God's sake? We do not want to talk about her.'"
Strange that....
bluebrad
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An argument for compulsory sterilisation? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1180617/I-want-handouts-says-18-year-old-mother-left-1m-home-Big-Issue-seller.html)
What reading the daily Mail? Absolutely!
:)
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"The former builder pays no maintenance for his children as he has been unable to work since suffering a groin injury when he was impaled by a steel girder in September 2006."
If only that steel girder had been a bit more central then compulsory sterilization wouldn't be needed...
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An argument for compulsory sterilisation? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1180617/I-want-handouts-says-18-year-old-mother-left-1m-home-Big-Issue-seller.html)
What reading the daily Mail? Absolutely!
:)
Nah, that would require sterilisation of your parents at Birth :lol:
I agree that limiting benefits is more humane, but (correct me if I'm wrong) this has been tried before and has failed because "people have a right to have as many kids as they want".
We've got 2 kids, and I would never consider having a third if I couldn't afford it. However, the benefits people get almost act as an incentive so they can't be fully blamed for taking advantage of what's available.
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However, the benefits people get almost act as an incentive so they can't be fully blamed for taking advantage of what's available.
Like MPs? ;)
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Nah, MPs wrote the rules for themselves so it's a bit different.
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More goodness from The Register: Taiwanese rat snake bites Taiwanese trouser snake (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/12/rat_snake/)
bluebrad
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wtf, the stuff of nightmares! You'd never be able to use a toilet again.
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Trump, syrup haired twat.
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1208996 (http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1208996)
I realise it's a bit far away to be of interest to most of you, but you must agree he is a cunt.
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Trump, syrup haired twat.
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1208996 (http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1208996)
I realise it's a bit far away to be of interest to most of you, but you must agree he is a cunt.
WTF, why the hell can't he stump up the cash himself if he's so hell bent on building the damn thing? :wank:
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Trump, syrup haired twat.
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1208996 (http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1208996)
I realise it's a bit far away to be of interest to most of you, but you must agree he is a cunt.
:agree: Trump = #1 twat.
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Also using compulsory purchase orders to buy land for an individual to develop is utter bullshit. But then he has got the backing of the Scottish Government who overturned the council's initial decision not to let him buid, due to widespread public opposition.
The whole thing stinks. He is essentially building a luxury housing estate with a golfcourse attached to it. The dunes are a SSSI, and would be windblown and in the haar for a lot of the time. If he wants to build it somewhere, why not go and offer a farmer on Deeside a nice chunk of cash for some of his fields. Plus all the golf playing management at work think it will be fucking great, as if there was a shortage of golf courses in the area.
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Somewhat ironic (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8049495.stm)
Does this mean the charges against TPB will be dropped? I doubt it somehow.
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http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=NH+woman+charged+with+abuse+of+corpse&articleId=999fabab-2a37-47e8-8d8a-5c0eaca3adbd (http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=NH+woman+charged+with+abuse+of+corpse&articleId=999fabab-2a37-47e8-8d8a-5c0eaca3adbd)
"In fear of being evicted, she removed his body and put him in the stairwell, you can't do that."
I don't know why but that quote just tickled me! Good comment at the bottom as well.
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Surely on finding a corpse on somebody's property the usual course of action is to investigate cause of death!?
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Fishing anyone (http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/wacko.gif) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/5318202/Fish-that-triggers-hallucinations-found-off-British-coast.html)
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Perfect for a night on the "big fish little fish"
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This just in from The Sun - Yorkshire lasses have a biggest mazoohmas :thumbsup:
WARNING - NSFW PIC IN STORY
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2426853.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2426853.ece)
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Aye twotone but does this mean:
:thumbsup: Loads of good looking birds with fantastic tits?
or
:thumbsdown: Loads of fat biffers with massive tits?
:-\
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Based on a very limited amount of research on my part, the former... ;)
I will be continuing my 'in vivo' case study in the administrative centre of the county.
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My wife is in that 35% ;D 8)
(and she isn't a fat biffer)
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I'm getting worried about acquiring a reputation for only posting lowbrow stories...anyhooo.
This is all kinds of wrong - father buys his 14 year old son the weirdest birthday present. Ever.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090515/tuk-man-planned-prostitute-gift-for-son-6323e80.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090515/tuk-man-planned-prostitute-gift-for-son-6323e80.html)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8054448.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8054448.stm)
banana man
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So much for experience (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8056525.stm)
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WTF, lock him up and throw away the key (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8058533.stm)
19.5 years was too short in the first place. Whatever judge decided this was reasonable should be removed from their position of responsibility immediately.
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So 25 life terms gets reduced to 14.5 years?
That's not far off the amount of time that his daughters spent pregnant
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How about 14 1/2 years but no "secure wing" protection from the regular prisoners? :wave:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PgcdVx64E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PgcdVx64E)
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Excuse my ignorance , but what's the difference between a murder and a serious murder ?... I always that murder was about as serious as you could get ...
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Excuse my ignorance , but what's the difference between a murder and a serious murder ?... I always that murder was about as serious as you could get ...
You don't smile or laugh when committing a serious murder (http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/noexpression.gif)
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(http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~bites/Can%27t%20Have%20Manslaughter%20Without%20Laughter.gif)
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Fuckwits (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/20/id_card_reader/)
Seriously, what is the point of having ID if it can't be verified :shrug: ?
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Ahh but I heard some home office wonk saying you can tell if it's genuine because it makes a distinctive 'clicking' noise when you flick it. :spank: :spank:
O
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One extremely organised kid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8061247.stm)
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Yeah I bet she was acting alone too. ;)
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about time. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060607.stm)
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Yeah I bet she was acting alone too. ;)
Yeah right. I think her name might be Patsy.
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Drunken Aussie gets it on while driving (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/22/drink_driving_aussie/)
bluebrad
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Letsby Avenue police station (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/27/letsby_avenue/) :lol:
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This is starting to get a little creepy
Surveillance feedback loop (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/surveillance_feedback_loop/)
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Jesus wept (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8071865.stm) :-\
Grateful Dead (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8071299.stm) :lol:
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What a load of wank (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/28/thmbnls_again/) :wank:
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Jesus wept (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8071865.stm) :-\
it always amazes me that idiots can claim that something looks like a (possibly ficticious?) person they've never seen, died two thousand years ago. Their only basis for visual comparison are highly dubiously innacurate and stylized renaissance paintings, and a 1970s TV drama staring Robert Powell. fucking retards. I did a shit that other day that I swear is the spitting image of the scarlet pimpernel.
I hope the Marmite company have adaquate insurance againt the image of mohammed appearing one on of their lids.
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Yeah but look at her, she's obviously a dumb ass.
And she bites her nails :thumbsdown:
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1243508841/img/1.jpg)
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How to revamp politics (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/28/fine_gael_credentials/) :lol:
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How to revamp politics (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/28/fine_gael_credentials/) :lol:
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/05/28/emma-kiernan.jpg)
or widdecombe? I know who I would vote for.
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How to revamp politics (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/28/fine_gael_credentials/) :lol:
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/05/28/emma-kiernan.jpg)
or widdecombe? I know who I would vote for.
Yeah clearly Widdecombe, who wants a playful filly in a position of power...
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/05/28/emma_kiernan_facebook.jpg)
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How to revamp politics (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/28/fine_gael_credentials/) :lol:
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/05/28/emma-kiernan.jpg)
or widdecombe? I know who I would vote for.
Yeah clearly Widdecombe, who wants a playful filly in a position of power...
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/05/28/emma_kiernan_facebook.jpg)
Certainly would make a nice chage from this all anyway....
(http://thedundalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/mary-harney.jpg)
Former Tánaiste (deputy prime minister)
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Do you see that Ann Widdicombe?
(http://timworstall.typepad.com/timworstall/images/widdy.jpg)
That's your girlfriend that is.
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Demand for squirrel pie on the up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8073202.stm) (ssssh, don't tell Magpie!)
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Demand for squirrel pie on the up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8073202.stm) (ssssh, don't tell Magpie!)
Tilly can account for around 200 in Graves park, she likes the head the best(bit like a soft centred chocolate for dogs)
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Soft on the outside, crunchy on the inside - Dime.
Crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside - Armadillo Squirrel head.
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Eminem looses his shizzle (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/jun/01/eminem-bruno) (or rather gets a sniff of someone else's.. :( )
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Thats hilarious :lol:
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A new kind of cloud (http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8076000/8076805.stm)
Pretty sure this is what I saw when up in the Lakes a few weeks back. Have some better pics, but haven't sorted them, so this panoramic will have to do (best viewed large to see the clouds in detail)...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3345/3499887033_daba0f1b65.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slackline/3499887033/)
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Nice. I've always called those duvet clouds. I think you're overdoing the grads a bit though. The rule of thumb is that for a natural result the sky should always remain brighter than the land. Even on reflections which is where most seem to slip up (0.45 is ideal, 0.6 a little too much). I only use more than a 0.6 shooting into the light.
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Nice. I've always called those duvet clouds. I think you're overdoing the grads a bit though. The rule of thumb is that for a natural result the sky should always remain brighter than the land. Even on reflections which is where most seem to slip up (0.45 is ideal, 0.6 a little too much). I only use more than a 0.6 shooting into the light.
Still learning to use the grads, felt I'd over-done it a bit on these when I looked at them on the computer as I didn't like the tops of the hills being so dark, but not much I could do about it (too lazy to do anything much in the GIMP). Cheers for the pointers though, will bear this in mind in the future.
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The other option if the contrast isn't too high (as in your cloud shot above) is to expose carefully in RAW, metering with the histogram etc, then use the grad, recovery and fill tools in Lightroom.
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The other option if the contrast isn't too high (as in your cloud shot above) is to expose carefully in RAW, metering with the histogram etc, then use the grad, recovery and fill tools in Lightroom.
OK, I dont really know anything about dig photography etc.. but used (when a yoof) take alot of piccies - develop, use filters etc.. Anyway heres the daft question.. I was wondering whether you can get a similar/same result post processing the raw image file as you can putting a filter on the lens??
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The other option if the contrast isn't too high (as in your cloud shot above) is to expose carefully in RAW, metering with the histogram etc, then use the grad, recovery and fill tools in Lightroom.
Ahh, the catch is I'm a Linux evangelist user and prefer free open source software (and make donations every now and again). I'm also exceptionally lazy with post-processing about the only thing I can be arsed doing is stitching pics together (which the software mainly takes care of itself, although I tweak things here and there). I've taken a few RAW shots here and there, and tried playing (see below), but I've not even got round to simply converting some RAWs I took in the Lakes a month ago to simple JPG's (which probably do have decent cloud shots as the below was taken on the way to Wasdale head, and the clouds looked great from there)!!
OK, I dont really know anything about dig photography etc.. but used (when a yoof) take alot of piccies - develop, use filters etc.. Anyway heres the daft question.. I was wondering whether you can get a similar/same result post processing the raw image file as you can putting a filter on the lens??
Whilst I don't do it myself, I've seen some impressive effects (before/after) shots and with RAW you can do shit loads, so I'd imagine you can do a lot more.
Here's two treatments of one shot I took ages ago when I was playing around (not a great example really but gives you an idea, unfortunately I can't even remember what I did!!!). First one is more natural, although possibly tilting towards purple, second one is clearly greener/yellower (and either cropped or at a longer focal length). Done using UFraw (http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2299170479_20385b51ca.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slackline/2299170479/)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2299170481_3161b54eb2.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slackline/2299170481/)
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OK, I dont really know anything about dig photography etc.. but used (when a yoof) take alot of piccies - develop, use filters etc.. Anyway heres the daft question.. I was wondering whether you can get a similar/same result post processing the raw image file as you can putting a filter on the lens??
As ever, the answer is 'it depends'. Colur balance filters, yes, defintely. Polarisers, no, not at all. Grads, if you can capture all the contrast range of the scene into one exposure, then yes. If you can't, then a range of exposures can be digitally combined. A lot of pro landscapers have ditched the grads completely in favour of combining exposures (nb not the same as HDR), personally I still use them though perhaps less strong than with film. I do use the grads in Lightroom a lot.
Ahh, the catch is I'm a Linux evangelist user and prefer free open source software
Obviously I was fishing for that... its not too strong to say that if it wasn't for Lightroom I would view shooting digital as a massive pain in the arse. With it, its a pleasure. The first software I've ever paid for, and willingly.
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Right back on topic...
How to spite your dad in Egypt (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/01/dad_says_no/) :shrug:
Playing God (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/01/ps_boycott/)
Boyle Tsar (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/brown-to-appoint-susan-boyle-tsar-200906021795/) :lol:
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Ahh, the catch is I'm a Linux evangelist user and prefer free open source software
Obviously I was fishing for that... its not too strong to say that if it wasn't for Lightroom I would view shooting digital as a massive pain in the arse. With it, its a pleasure. The first software I've ever paid for, and willingly.
Hmm, (http://www.toontowncentral.com/gallery/data/619/feedtroll.gif)
I have actually been considering Nikons software for this after chatting extensively with a knowledgeable user (http://www.flickr.com/photos/starquake/). Aside from the fact he shoots with a full-frame D700 so has a better quality body (and lenses to accompany it) he really rates the work flow and the fact that because its Nikon they know exactly what the hardware is doing so write the software to match it. One draw back is I can't find whether anyone has acutally got it working under an emulator and I'm not about to fork out for an XP license to run it under a virtual machine for one piece of software.
:devangel:
For the time being I'll work on getting the shot right in camera (lots of room for improvement there!)
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A proper digital workflow doesn't involve getting it 'right' in camera though, its about getting the best info in camera, then processing it right.
I don't think the Nikon software is much of a workflow solution, just a RAW processing tool. It did have advantages with colours until Adobe brought out the lastest set of Profiles (Adobe standard is my favourite for Nikon files). Lightroom is a DAM suite, RAW processor and more rolled into one - basically the entire workflow. If there's one program worth running under a seperate OS its that.
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Jellyfish from outerspace (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5427512/600ft-jellyfish-crop-circle-found-in-Oxfordshire-field.html)
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Jellyfish from outerspace (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5427512/600ft-jellyfish-crop-circle-found-in-Oxfordshire-field.html)
:lol:
Not seen many crop circles in the flesh, although I do remember driving home up the M1 and there being a rather large "Mistubishi" crop circle on the hill on the left not far south of Sheffield. I figured some people had been out on a bender and were paying homage to their dealer :P
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NOW this is what I call f*cking good news :)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45860000/jpg/_45860605__45619703_000305308-1-1.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8080630.stm)
Never mind Gordons impending doom, bring on the cuzza :)
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NOW this is what I call f*cking good news :)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8080630.stm)
(http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/a4d5ed9f4988b3692a5ce940b516f57d.jpg)
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No shit Sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8077083.stm)
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No shit Sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8077083.stm)
Why are women more likely to want flexible working? I'd be quite happy to be flexible in my working if offered the chance to go part-time and I could afford to.
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No shit Sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8077083.stm)
Why are women more likely to want flexible working? I'd be quite happy to be flexible in my working if offered the chance to go part-time and I could afford to.
Cos they are more likely to want to look after children? By "want" I assume they mean actually request and/or accept, rather than just a vague whimsical desire to work less.
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It's been known for years that women in medicine have a higher rate of taking time out/ part time working (families).
For a while there was a much higher drop out rate in female medical students too. Things may change but not overnight.
It just seems a very non-story to me. It's common sense that if you increase the proportion of your workforce that are likely to take a year out, you may need more people.
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My job (academic) has significantly fewer women than men - despite there being similar numbers at the Postgrad level (and to a degree at postdoc). This (I think) is because academia is especially cruel if you take time out for birth/bringing up children... Our careers are built around research and publication - and a 1-2 year break from this can be really hard to come back from - it punches a whopping great hole in your publication record. Its even worse in the States with tenure track....
Sure, we can get flexible working hours - but at the end of the day it really is publish or perish...
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Cos they are more likely to want to look after children? By "want" I assume they mean actually request and/or accept, rather than just a vague whimsical desire to work less.
Yeah, I was just being facetious/obtuse about the poor journalistic write-up.
My job (academic) has significantly fewer women than men - despite there being similar numbers at the Postgrad level (and to a degree at postdoc). This (I think) is because academia is especially cruel if you take time out for birth/bringing up children... Our careers are built around research and publication - and a 1-2 year break from this can be really hard to come back from - it punches a whopping great hole in your publication record. Its even worse in the States with tenure track....
Sure, we can get flexible working hours - but at the end of the day it really is publish or perish...
Conversely the area of academia from which I hail (statistical genetics) has quite a high proportion of females. Quite why I couldn't say (and its not like there are tons of honeyz either), but most likely due to one of the early big-wigs, a guy called Robert Elston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Elston) who was more than happy to have female Phd students and post-docs. I remember seeing an "academic family tree" at a conference and there were easily as many females as males, and many of his early female students were still highly active at quite a high level in the field, no doubt thanks to his support.
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Gay penguins (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8081829.stm)
Particularly enjoyed this bit. "The zoo flew in four females in a bid to get the endangered birds to reproduce - but quickly abandoned the scheme after causing outrage among gay rights activists, who accused it of interfering in the animals' behaviour."
Survival of a species vs rights of gay penguins. :devangel:
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Yeah, I was just being facetious/obtuse about the poor journalistic write-up.
You should insert a smiley when you do that, otherwise it confuses people.
:)
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Gay penguins (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8081829.stm)
Particularly enjoyed this bit. "The zoo flew in four females in a bid to get the endangered birds to reproduce - but quickly abandoned the scheme after causing outrage among gay rights activists, who accused it of interfering in the animals' behaviour."
Survival of a species vs rights of gay penguins. :devangel:
I wonder if they like fish-sticks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishsticks_(South_Park))? Do they put them in each others mouths?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbkCo5oZJ8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbkCo5oZJ8)
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The lazy, slack, inaccurate reporting on Radio 1 really pisses me off. They're running an item on the news today about how 1 in 10 drivers are giving up nights out in order to be able to afford to fill their cars with fuel "because the price of petrol has risen to over £1 per litre again".
So they were ok when it was 95p or so per litre as it has been for a while then? Seeing as filling up an average tank will be costing about £2.50 (or FUCK ALL) extra these people must have been managing some pretty cheap nights out to suddenly be unable to afford them.
Or the story could be total fucking nonsense. I wonder.
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The lazy, slack, inaccurate reporting on Radio 1 really pisses me off. They're running an item on the news today about how 1 in 10 drivers are giving up nights out in order to be able to afford to fill their cars with fuel "because the price of petrol has risen to over £1 per litre again".
Its ALL theatre darling... just make some controversy to get the punters listening...
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It's all the Honda Civic owners who are giving up their nights out - their nights out consist of driving aimlessly around town revving their sad little engines at junctions and traffic lights prior to accelerating as quickly as possible just to brake quickly for the next revving opportunity - their main costs being brake pads, wheel rubber and petrol. Hopefuly they will all be staying at home for the summer.
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Sound. Let's hope it goes back up to £1.20 p/ltr then.
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Israel controls US foreign policy non shocker. (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-us-israel4-2009jun04,0,7197649.story)
This makes me angry. :thumbsdown:
Israeli officials have complained that the administration was not recognizing secret oral agreements they say the George W. Bush administration reached with Israel to permit some expansion.
My heart bleeds. :boohoo:
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This is quality. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/5451764/Silvio-Berlusconi-naked-photographs-published-despite-court-order.html)
Burlesque-oni is a total wanker but you've gotta have a grudging respect for the way that he's so fucking blatant about it. Totally corrupt and doesn't bother hiding it at all. Just chucks money at things until they go away as he knows he can with the way the Italian "legal system" works doesn't work.
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/6/3/1244036585468/Nice-People-Take-Drugs-ca-002.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/joepublic/2009/jun/04/drugs-do-work) <-- Clickety-click
I subscribe to the Hunter S. Thompson school of philosophy when it comes to drugs...
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
(although without the violence 'cause its naughty)
(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/crazy.gif)(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/wacko.gif)(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/drool.gif)(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/blink.gif)(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/look.gif)(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/sleepy.gif)
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New skin cream (http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/56941/)
For a non-monetary fee I can provide any young ladies wishing to try this regime with extra fresh samples (I can also source abundant numbers of snails from the back garden).
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For a non-monetary fee I can provide any young ladies wishing to try this regime with extra fresh samples
Paying homage in passing to the milk slogan you could market your service using the phrase "Straight from the cock to you." ;)
Speaking of cows - David Blunkett gets trampled by one! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8089498.stm)
bluebrad
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Speaking of cows - David Blunkett gets trampled by one! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8089498.stm)
bluebrad
He should have seen it coming...
(http://i42.tinypic.com/u24pc.jpg)
(tumbleweed emoticon courtesy of JasperSharpe..)
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Speaking of cows - David Blunkett gets trampled by one! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8089498.stm)
bluebrad
He should have seen it coming...
It did cross my mind to say that but discretion being the better part of valour and all that...
bluebrad
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Speaking of cows - David Blunkett gets trampled by one! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8089498.stm)
bluebrad
He should have seen it coming...
It did cross my mind to say that but discretion being the better part of valour and all that...
bluebrad
He should have mooved a bit faster...
(i'll get my coat...)
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Big Brother is nosing around again (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/09/mobile_phone_directory/) (and for once its not Google ::) )
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Nothing's sacred. Last year when we renewed our road tax online I put my Mrs' details in and then my email address so I could print out the document I needed at work. Obviously I ticked the "Don't pass on my email address or send me any shit you cunts" box on the DVLA website. Obviously they ignored this as within 24 hours I received loads of spam (mainly from dodgy loan companies etc) addressed "Dear Eve" to my email address. I assume this could only have occurred because the government agency is selling on people's details despite them being told not to by the individual (or their site has so little security that they might as well be doing so which would be even more worrying).
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Or you had some spyware that intercepted the data :shrug:
Still the "we will harvest in your personal information and then sell it on" strategies really do suck. For years I've been getting shitty cardboard calendars from Jack Daniels and I don't even like the stuff!
Apparently I'm on their database, but I don't want to pay to have myself removed (and actually confirm my identity), nor do I want to call up their freephone number which sounds as though it takes your round in circles (albeit at their expense) and again have to confirm my identity to them. :wank:
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Apparently I'm on their database, but I don't want to pay to have myself removed (and actually confirm my identity)
I may be wrong but I don't think they can legally charge you for removing your data from their system if you request it.
or to be more specific, you can excersise your rights and stop them using your data for direct marketing:
http://www.ico.gov.uk/Home/what_we_cover/data_protection/your_rights/preventing_unsolicited_marketing.aspx (http://www.ico.gov.uk/Home/what_we_cover/data_protection/your_rights/preventing_unsolicited_marketing.aspx)
also under the data protection act they are only allowed to keep your data as long as is "necessary", and since they can no-longer market to you directly and have no other legitimate use for your data they should then under the law remove your records from their database. I don't know how you'd actually enforce this but it is what should happen.
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Apparently I'm on their database, but I don't want to pay to have myself removed (and actually confirm my identity)
I may be wrong but I don't think they can legally charge you for removing your data from their system if you request it.
You have to pay standard network charges if you text 'E' to 118800...
Can I be ex-directory with 118 800?
You can become ex-directory by texting the letter ‘E’ to 118800 from the mobile phone you want to be made ex-directory or you can call us on 0800 138 6263. Standard network charges apply. The first time 118 800 contacts you you will be sent an SMS reminding you about how to become ex-directory. Please allow up to 4 weeks for your ex-directory request to take effect.
...the 0800 number is obviously free (check out 0800buster (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11757.0.html) for how to dial 0800 numbers for 'free' from your mobile), but you still end up confirming the details of your name/address/mobile number and I don't trust the bastards to remove me details from the db.
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I'd missed that 0800Buster thing slackers. Nice one.
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Leg Shavers not-so-Anonymous (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Police_set_up_10mph_speed_trap&in_article_id=681086&in_page_id=34)
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Leg Shavers not-so-Anonymous (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Police_set_up_10mph_speed_trap&in_article_id=681086&in_page_id=34)
Fucking twats :furious: (oh wait, was i not meant to swear)
Cyclists musnt go over 10mph but coppers can shoot brazilians and cave in the heads of winos.
Juyst ban the cyclists and stop wasting the resources - or put in a cycle lane.
Ps - i am very much pro cycling - i have 3 bikes dont y' know.
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ohh, look at me and all my bikes, aren't I amazing.....
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Leg Shavers not-so-Anonymous (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Police_set_up_10mph_speed_trap&in_article_id=681086&in_page_id=34)
They will catch any cyclists going too fast, give them a safety talk and provide them with a leaflet explaining the bylaws along the seafront.
Oh really? And how are you going to do that, through yourself prostrate in front of their wheels? Chase after them on foot and hope that you can catch them at the next lights? Jump on a bike of your own and pedal after them.....breaking the speed limit yourself to catch them!!! :wank:
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Leg Shavers not-so-Anonymous (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Police_set_up_10mph_speed_trap&in_article_id=681086&in_page_id=34)
They will catch any cyclists going too fast, give them a safety talk and provide them with a leaflet explaining the bylaws along the seafront.
Oh really? And how are you going to do that, through yourself prostrate in front of their wheels? Chase after them on foot and hope that you can catch them at the next lights? Jump on a bike of your own and pedal after them.....breaking the speed limit yourself to catch them!!! :wank:
They could use a 'stinger' (tm) or something far less OTT.. :)
(http://blogplatoon.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/taser_putthehurt.jpg)
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/31/sound_cannon.jpg)
(http://dvice.com/pics/net_gun.jpg)
(I am bored today at work... can you tell?)
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F8cking hell, you couldnt make this shit up!
Sizewell nuclear disaster averted by dirty laundry, says official report (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jun/11/nuclear-waste-nuclearpower)
"On the morning of Sunday 7 January 2007, one of the contractors working on decommissioning the Sizewell A nuclear power station on the Suffolk coast was in the laundry room when he noticed cooling water leaking on to the floor from the pond that holds the reactor's highly radioactive spent nuclear fuel.
As much as 40,000 gallons of radioactive water spilled out of a 15ft long split in a pipe, some leaking into the North Sea. The pond water level had dropped by more than a foot (330mm) – yet none of the sophisticated alarms in the plant sounded in the main control room.
By the time of the next scheduled safety patrol, the pond level would have dipped far enough to expose the nuclear fuel rods – potentially causing them to overheat and catch fire sending a plume of radioactive contamination along the coastline."
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ohh, look at me and all my bikes, aren't I amazing.....
Says the man with a roller for his 6ft by 6ft lawn.
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at least I have a lawn, and a house that is more than 15 bricks roughly cemented together 2 inch's off the floor ;D
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Oooof!
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:furious: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/8095531.stm) What the fucks wrong with carrying some sandwiches and a bottle of beer with you (and back down of course), even if you take the train up.
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I got a lift of the couple who contracted the CAD stuff for the plumbing/wiring of that place.
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I thought you were in Scotland Will.
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Back now, soon heading to the Alps. Weather and midges are stunning. Barely a spot of rain except in Glen Coe and the midge net didn't leave the bag :o
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Glen Beck on the holocaust museum murder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mUGU9kyVys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mUGU9kyVys) this guy is scary :o
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CF: Charlie Brooker's brilliant deconstruction of this guy on Screenwipe. Assume it's not available on iplayer any more but it's well worth a watch.
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Back now, soon heading to the Alps. Weather and midges are stunning. Barely a spot of rain except in Glen Coe and the midge net didn't leave the bag :o
Sweet. You off to Cham? I will be there week after next.
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Nah it's in Austria. Going out with a PhD student to help out with fieldwork/go cragging then joining up with people from the course to do a fieldclass. Sweeet!
Would be nice to go to Cham as I know loads of people going or who are out there already but c'est la vie.
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CF: Charlie Brooker's brilliant deconstruction of this guy on Screenwipe. Assume it's not available on iplayer any more but it's well worth a watch.
Let me 'Youtube' that for you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvN5IPLGs9c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvN5IPLGs9c)
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Another one worthy of 'The Day Today'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8104397.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8104397.stm)
Lets hope they also had 'Frickin' laser beams attached to their heads'
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What a little star....or is it constellation? (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090617/twl-tattoo-girl-wakes-to-see-stars-41f21e0.html)
The mind boggles :wall:
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You been listening to
Century Real?
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lol (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8104658.stm)
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I no ma rites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8104802.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8104802.stm)
What a bag of bollocks, Liberty should have told them to fuck off.
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I no marmites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8104802.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8104802.stm)
What a bag of bollocks, Liberty should have told them to fuck off.
:agree:
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Its 8ft long... honest... (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Hull-merchant-s-8ft-long-halibut/article-1087694-detail/article.html)
(thankfully this fishy tale is bigger news here rather than usual muggings/robbings etc..)
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Its 8ft long... honest... (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Hull-merchant-s-8ft-long-halibut/article-1087694-detail/article.html)
(thankfully this fishy tale is bigger news here rather than usual muggings/robbings etc..)
The way they talk about it, it's as if the guy is about to cut a diamond, not cut up a fish.
Then there is the story of the mermaid who abstained from sex - she remained halibut. (sorry).
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Its 8ft long... honest... (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Hull-merchant-s-8ft-long-halibut/article-1087694-detail/article.html)
(thankfully this fishy tale is bigger news here rather than usual muggings/robbings etc..)
The way they talk about it, it's as if the guy is about to cut a diamond, not cut up a fish.
Then there is the story of the mermaid who abstained from sex - she remained halibut. (sorry).
Well, I guess when you spend 30 years cutting up fish, when something like that comes along...
That mermaid joke is top.. I could imagine eric and ernie delivering that one,.. :)
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I no ma rites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8104802.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8104802.stm)
What a bag of bollocks, Liberty should have told them to fuck off.
Jesus fucking christ. Shami Chakrabati needs to shut the fuck up.
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How to encourage people to ditch their landlines (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8105068.stm)
Absolute bunch of idiocy. For starters there are tons of people who have fixed landlines who never have and never will want/need net access (viz. my grandparents) so why the hell should they subsidise others broadband usage.
Further I suspect that this will just encourage people to ditch their landline and go completely mobile.
More fundamentally though I don't really understand why private business's are getting the public sector to subsidise the improvement of their infrastructure? I understand clearly that it will benefit Britain as a whole, but in any other sector competition would drive this, in so much as one company would start rolling out fibre optic and offering an improved service over their competitor who would in turn step up to the oche and start doing the same, in time this would drive the cost to the customer down. And why the fuck shouldn't these telecommunications companies re-invest in their own business for their own good.
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This is shocking... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8107039.stm) was first in the grauniad this morn, but now on BBC....
wrong wrong wrong....
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It is indeed shocking but would it be *that* different here?
Given the number of women I know that have been raped or had extremely undesirable sexual experiences I suspect the figures for the UK would not be so massively different. There's a lot of men who just won't take no for an answer.
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Bunny squeezer banged to rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8565434)
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Bunny squeezer banged to rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8565434)
Magpie, I thought you lived in Glasgow, not Washington?
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iLiver (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/steve-jobs--forced-to-accept-badly-designed-liver-200906221843/) :P :lol:
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BNP in equal rights shocker (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8114619.stm) :lol: :thumbsup:
Near miss for German boy (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/12/meteorite_strike/) :shrug:
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I might see if the BNP needs some equal ops consultancy, and I think I'll bid on the following basis.
I'd start by suggesting that they define themselves as 'britisg' they consider themselves, western oriented genetically suitable, or WOGS for short. They could then say without fear of contradiction that they welcome WOGS. I'd then move on to suggest that WOGS may also be, just english why, or JEW.
Membership would be available on several levels, member under silent limited internal moderation or MUSLIM being the most junior level, national intelligence general group executive rank or n**ger.
So the BNP would be able to suggest that their membership is full of wogs, jews, n**gers and muslims and if you don't like it you don't have to join, live here.
On a more serious note why the f--k are the Equal Opportunities folk doing this now? Haven't the liberal elite given these fascist scum more than enough of the oxygen of publicity without actually challenging them on policy? (personally a la some one on the news quiz, I'd deny them the oxygen of oxygen) Forcing the BNP to change it's consitution through the courts will probably be a losing battle and do the exact opposite of what's intended, feckin morons.
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UK's transport infrastructure susceptible to bad weather (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8116013.stm)
Doesn't take a fucking genius to work that one out!
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Near miss for German boy (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/12/meteorite_strike/) :shrug:
Even nearer miss for Turkish boy. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Boys-Amazing-Escape-After-Being-Hit-By-A-Runaway-Car-In-Turkey-Caught-On-CCTV/Article/200906415316105?lpos=World_News_News_Your_Way_Region_4&lid=NewsYourWay_ARTICLE_15316105_Boys_Amazing_Escape_After_Being_Hit_By_A_Runaway_Car_In_Turkey_Caught_On_CCTV) :o
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Common sense prevails (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8116962.stm)
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A tenner for breakfast in Bolton (http://www.sharenator.org/The_10_Breakfast/)
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A tenner for breakfast in Bolton (http://www.sharenator.org/The_10_Breakfast/)
:o
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A tenner for breakfast in Bolton (http://www.sharenator.org/The_10_Breakfast/)
:jaw: fantastic, that's 5 minutes from my house! great stuff, could go there before a crushing session at Brownstones ;D
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Eat that shit, Ginns, and you'll weigh the same as me.
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Eat that shit, Ginns, and you'll weigh the same as me.
hmm, and I've not got the lank to hide it neither. :lol:
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Genghis - he got about a bit (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html)
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Trippy Skippy. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8118257.stm)
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Genghis - he got about a bit (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html)
Interesting, although they are over-stating the findings...
This is a clear example that culture plays a very big role in patterns of genetic variation and diversity in human populations," said geneticist Spencer Wells, one of the 23 co-authors of the paper. "It's the first documented case when human culture has caused a single genetic lineage to increase to such an enormous extent in just a few hundred years."
What they should have said is that its the "...first case when human culture may have caused a single genetic lineage to increase to such an enormous extent..." as they are proposing a hypothesis to explain the evidence. They've perhaps followed Ocham's Razor and gone with the simplest explanation, but that doesn't mean its correct until there is additional supporting evidence to support it, and they've no evidence to support or exclude the alternative hypothesis of natural selection driving the proliferation of that particular version of the Y-chromosome.
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Nigaz (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8118721.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nigaz (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8118721.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
4life.
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Nigaz (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8118721.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wonder what their logo will be? Some big gold chunky thing that looks good on a massive chain?
(http://www.xxlmag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/ghost-doll-small.jpg)
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Nigaz (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8118721.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
all they need is your full name, bank details, mother's maiden name, 1st pet's name, most memorable place and the last 3 digits on the back of your credit card
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Trippy Skippy. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8118257.stm)
A small prize for if you can figure out what's wrong with the picture (lazy buggers over at the Beeb I reckon.)
Nigaz (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8118721.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Am I allowed to say anything about their attitude here? ::)
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Trippy Skippy. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8118257.stm)
A small prize for if you can figure out what's wrong with the picture (lazy buggers over at the Beeb I reckon.)
Its not a wallaby but a roo.
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I have only two passions: Space exploration and hip-hop. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/25/rocket_experience/)
Video (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0be5c681fc/buzz-aldrin-s-rocket-experience), I think he needs to work on the his flow.
Would have made a half decent boxer though (sceptic accusing him of not having been to the moon)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU)
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Is that £50 in your pocket or.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8123749.stm)
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Bit of DIY Surgery (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/30/diy_surgery/) anyone?
bluebrad
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Bit of DIY Surgery (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/30/diy_surgery/) anyone?
bluebrad
Class...
Hinting at what had provoked the patient to treat his foreskin in such a cavalier fashion...
What a fucking twat!
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Pirate Bay sells out (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/30/pirate_bay_gaming_factory_x_ab/)
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Hinting at what had provoked the patient to treat his foreskin in such a cavalier fashion...
What a fucking twat!
Did the pun not amuse you then slackers?
bluebrad
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Hinting at what had provoked the patient to treat his foreskin in such a cavalier fashion...
What a fucking twat!
Did the pun not amuse you then slackers?
bluebrad
Pun amused me, comment was that the guy's an idiot for trying it in the first place.
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The start of something good? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8127851.stm)
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Chickens to power Hydrogen cars (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/07/01/chicken_feathers_hydrogen/)
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The start of something good? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8127851.stm)
hmm, we'll wait and see.. I use the E coast line quite a bit, and the differences between GNER and Nat.Express were..... well, I couldn't really see any.. same old trains, with a few different stripes on the side...
Be interesting to see how well they do.. AFAIK they are creating a public 'company' to run it...
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Were there any? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8125210.stm) Must have passed me by......
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AFAIK they are creating a public 'company' to run it...
Thats what I think is potentially a good thing, nationalisation of public transport instead of leaving it in the hands of greedy share holders who want profit maximised.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8127883.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8127883.stm)
you're banged up for life and you can't have the decency/humanity to tell a mother where what's left of her kid is so she can have closure. fucking scum.
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Fucking disgraceful[/url
The handler should have known better and should be imprisoned (if post-mortem confirms that over-heating was a significant contributing factor in the death). Shame it can only be for six months maximum, hopefully they'll spend those six months in a very very hot sauna with barely enough water to survive :wank: :wank: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8129826.stm)
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:oops: fucked up the closing bracket there!
Dumb and Dumber (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/02/pennsylvania_master_crims/)
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Andy Burnham is a fucking idiot (http://u.tv/News/Swine-flu-100000-UK-cases-a-day-by-August/5328de13-2cc3-43b5-90d4-276e7dac9288)
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png) (http://xkcd.com/605/)
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Bit harsh:
He later stressed that the figure "is a projection. It is not a fact. This is how the disease could develop and we don't know."
The fact is we won't know as they aren't testing everyone now, and they certainly won't be testing everyone in a month.
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Its a very poor projection though. Look at how the tabloids have sensationalised it and it will now be interpreted by the general public.
If you don't know how things are going to pan out, there's no point in attempting to spread panic by quoting poorly researched and projected estimates.
Everyone should read this...
(http://www.cogsci.ucsd.edu/classes/WI09/COGS14/RESOURCES/Huff_cover.jpg)
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everyone knows 87% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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statistically 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.
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Going to the Olympics, best turn your phone off (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/06/olympics_mobile_tracking/) £600,000,000 on security is a fucking joke!!!
How long before Big Brother (the Orwellian vision not the wank TV show) decides its worth covering the whole nation permanently :wank:
On a lighter note...
NZ teenager exacts revenge on mother over house chores (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/06/trade_me_auction/) :lol:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-want-water-cannons-to-beat-back-city-rioters-1732194.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-want-water-cannons-to-beat-back-city-rioters-1732194.html) I give up.
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My brother who used to live in Lyon told me that the local CRS used to put road grit and salt into the water cannon. Nice.
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Or like the SA Police, you just spray the road in front of them and it throws up and stones and stuff lying around. Equally nice.
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Great plan. Instead of better training, accountability, proper government direction etc for the police, just give em bigger weapons.
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Augustus Gloop (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8141612.stm)
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(https://themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/sick.gif) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8048635.stm) <-- that really is sickening.
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Have they learnt nothing :rtfm: :wall: :spank: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8141584.stm)
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If I were an IFA I'd be checking my PI insurance as recommending ayone take out one of those loans must surely be getting close to the text book definition of negligent (although to be fair I don't think pure financial loss would be recoverable in that situation).
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Have they learnt nothing :rtfm: :wall: :spank: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8141584.stm)
borrowers also have to pass a stress test to ensure they can still afford the mortgage repayments if interest rates have risen to 9% or 10% once the fixed-rate element of the loan has expired.
So far none of the Nationwide's customers have taken up its offer.
::)
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I think we'll see interest rates rise to some where between 7 and 8%.
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They should take a leaf out of Einstein's book (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/09/getting_dressed/)
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teach yourself a lesson (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090710/twl-sex-tape-teacher-to-keep-her-job-3fd0ae9.html)
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Estate agents in "yes they really are cunts (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090710/tuk-uk-britain-foxtons-fa6b408.html)" shocker. :wank:
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Estate agents in "yes they really are cunts (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090710/tuk-uk-britain-foxtons-fa6b408.html)" shocker. :wank:
I hope they got the tyres on their BMW Minis slashed for that.
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Foxtons said it welcomed the High Court ruling
Yeah right.
Today's ruling brings clarity to an area which has been under dispute and which has created uncertainty for us and our whole industry
Translation from Estate Agent Speak: "We've been cuffed. Wankers."
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Weirdest thing I've heard about in a while (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090704/tuk-blinded-man-regains-sight-with-tooth-45dbed5.html)
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Two weird ones this morning...
Fined for punching a punch-bag!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8144233.stm) :shrug:
Breaching an unconventional Asbo (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8021185.stm) :lol:
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Fuck, shit, bollocks......ah that feels better (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/13/pain_relief/) :goodidea: :lol:
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Should have done it with paper cuts to give a proper indication of pain tolerance.
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Discount shags for cyclists! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/14/cyclist_discount/)
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Discount shags for cyclists! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/14/cyclist_discount/)
Cue half of UKB heading to mainland Europe, perhaps hOUD could go on a reconnaissance mission first and scope out standards though :lol:
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Ladie & gentlemen, the President of the United States of America...
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01442/Obama-Blackpool_1442253i.jpg)
...and he wants to eat your children!!! :o
PS Couldn't think of anywhere better to put this.
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Ladie & gentlemen, the President of the United States of America...
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01442/Obama-Blackpool_1442253i.jpg)
...and he wants to eat your children!!! :o
PS Couldn't think of anywhere better to put this.
Is there a story to go with this? Perhaps about Obama wanting to eat children? Any clickety-link thing?
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good....erm......."core" strength (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/09/intimate_world_record/) :o
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Is there a story to go with this? Perhaps about Obama wanting to eat children? Any clickety-link thing?
Nope, it was a pic in the Daily Telegraph relating to a new Tussaud's exhibit in Blackpool. For some reason it made me think of Penny wise from Stephen King's "It". :shrug:
PS I can't find the pic on the Telegraph website now.
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For some reason it made me think of Penny wise from Stephen King's "It". :shrug:
Ahh, I see.
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It's here. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/5818117/Louis-Tussauds-Waxworks-in-Blackpool-unveils-model-of-President-Barack-Obama.html)
This is Louis Tussauds which is famous for having some of the least realistic wax models ever. Must admit this is pretty good in comparison to some of theirs I saw a few years back. They were hilarious.
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I read about LT's in the book "Bollocks To Alton Towers" - ranking it alongside such attractions as the "British Lawnmower Museum" and "Barometer World" .
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Can't be worse than the one in "Great" Yarmouth was
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-509100/Dud-ringers-The-worlds-worst-waxworks-sold-auction.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-509100/Dud-ringers-The-worlds-worst-waxworks-sold-auction.html)
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Old news...
Discussing the marketing of white cider with a few people earlier today and the names Blackout Cider (http://www.portmangroup.co.uk/?pid=25&level=2&bid=223) and Mega White (http://www.portmangroup.co.uk/?pid=25&level=2&bid=221) came up. For once someone tries honesty in advertising and they get shot down.
Just in case you were wondering about the old myth
We did liver toxicity tests on people who drank white ciders and people who drank beers like Tennents Super, which is strong, but is basically malt, water and hops. White ciders are just chemicals. The liver functions were worse in those who drank white ciders.
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Recall these?
(http://www.makingthemodernworld.org.uk/everyday_life/img/IM.0919_es.jpg)
Didn't prosper, oddly enough.
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Recall these?
(http://www.makingthemodernworld.org.uk/everyday_life/img/IM.0919_es.jpg)
Didn't prosper, oddly enough.
Thats 'cause they tasted like they'd come out of a camels bum :P
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I think we'll see interest rates rise to some where between 7 and 8%.
When will we?
I've been thinking about this post and wondering where you got the idea from or perhaps what time frame you are talking about. The notion of 7 or 8% interest rates any time in the near future is the polar opposite of what most economists are predicting and in fact the opposite of what members of the government's monetary policy committee are saying.
With inflation continuing to fall at present the likelihood is that VERY low interest rates will continue well into next year and, seriously, can you see rising inflation being a problem any time in the near future? The worry is deflation and therefore more "quantitive easing" would seem to be on the cards rather than interest rate rises which would do the opposite of what is necessary.
However, if your statement is more of an "at some point in the future" stab in the dark then fair enough. They probably will reach those levels at some point but that doesn't really have any relevance does it! ;)
Explain yourself! :P
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Sorry, you can't take pictures here, you're too tall (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/15/tall_photographers/) (well sort of).
In contrast there was a recent clarification for the Metropolitan Police (http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm) states...
Freedom to photograph/film
Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel.
Photography and Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000
The Terrorism Act 2000 does not prohibit people from taking photographs or digital images in an area where an authority under section 44 is in place.
Officers have the power to view digital images contained in mobile telephones or cameras carried by a person searched under S44 of the Terrorism Act 2000, provided that the viewing is to determine whether the images contained in the camera or mobile telephone are of a kind, which could be used in connection with terrorism. Officers also have the power to seize and retain any article found during the search which the officer reasonably suspects is intended to be used in connection with terrorism.
Photography and Section 43 of the Terrorism Act 2000
Officers have the power to view digital images contained in mobile telephones or cameras carried by a person searched under S43 of the Terrorism Act 2000 to discover whether they have in their possession anything which may constitute evidence that they are involved in terrorism. Officers also have the power to seize and retain any article found during the search which the officer reasonably suspects may constitute evidence that the person is involved in terrorism.
Section 58a of the Terrorism Act 2000
Section 58a of the Terrorism Act 2000 covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police.
Any officer making an arrest for an offence under Section 58a must be able to demonstrate a reasonable suspicion that the information was of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
It should ordinarily be considered inappropriate to use Section 58a to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities, including protests, as without more, there is no link to terrorism.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8152278.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8152278.stm)
Smoking really can be bad for your bank balance apparently! :o
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a) When will we?
b) Explain yourself!
a) General Election
b) Assuming Tories win
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That still makes no sense. Even if the (Conservative) government were to take back control of interest rates from the BoE then why the fuck would they raise them?
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Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8153073.stm) :wank:
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The housing service was contacted on behalf of another resident of the flats who is asthmatic and was concerned that the tomato plants in the public area were aggravating this condition.
WTF? How exactly does a tomato plant aggravate someone's asthma?
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That still makes no sense. Even if the (Conservative) government were to take back control of interest rates from the BoE then why the fuck would they raise them?
I have no idea, just trying to follow the sloperthoughtprogramtm
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There's a good deal of inflationary pressure in the pipeline and as out core financial position weakens and the cost of servicing our massive debt increases I can see interest rates rising, after all 7% or so ins't high in historical terms.
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However, if your statement is more of an "at some point in the future" stab in the dark then fair enough. They probably will reach those levels at some point but that doesn't really have any relevance does it! ;)
That's ok then. I thought you might have some contradictory information to everything I've read on the subject. As you were. :)
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bastard (http://www.thestar.co.uk/headlines/Thug-jailed-for-assault-on.5443803.jp)
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bastard (http://www.thestar.co.uk/headlines/Thug-jailed-for-assault-on.5443803.jp)
:agree: :wank:
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Good to see that the CPS followed this through, although it would seem that the possible charges of s.47 ABH and unlawful imprisonment were just too damm tricky to pursue.
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They don't all get away with it (http://www.swwop.org/success_stories.html) all the time.
Barrington (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Fhdr8HtJJb8C&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=barrington+taylor+sheffield&source=bl&ots=8xwVjzkGuS&sig=_rmc9yMXOqAinxtA1iossOtysfk&hl=en&ei=fjxfStaRC5XSjAe9zKCODg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1) and Koko (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Rapist-pimp-is-jailed.1255257.jp) are doing reasonable stretches, but this was at least the third time they were up in court for similar things. They got away with it previously by intimidating the girls. I'm not looking forward to their release.
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Tattooed Swedish devil girls sexually molest cyclist (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/16/devil_girls/)
Try as I might I just couldn't figure out a better link title than the original...
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Which airlines allow free bike transport on flights to sweden? My credit card is ready.
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Houdini's latest business venture (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8155542.stm) falls foul of the authorities. ;)
More pics here (http://weirdnews.about.com/od/weirdphotos/ig/Nazi-Garden-Gnomes/On-the-March.htm) as well - really should have got Fiend to paint them first though.
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Fucking twat (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8155398.stm) :wank:
Sense (almost) for once (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/8155568.stm) the conditional shit is a load of bollocks, they'd done nothing wrong so shouldn't have had to submit a drugs test.
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I was involved in the research which led to drug testing where someone has been arrested for acquisitive crime and the point is to take people out of a cycle of offending and direct them to treatment.
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I was involved in the research which led to drug testing where someone has been arrested for acquisitive crime and the point is to take people out of a cycle of offending and direct them to treatment.
But there was no acquisitive crime committed in this instance so the arrest (and subsequent attempt to test), as stated, was OTT.
I mean FFS I liberated a pair of handle-bar ends of a bike that was clearly abandoned in our street, it was only going to get more and more trashed by the kids so where's the harm?
Just the other (Monday) day my wife was woken by someone in our garden at 02:30 in the morning, she watched them walk from next to our house to the end, hop over the fence, then come back over dither around then fuck off when she turned the light on. Next morning I went and had a look and our hose-pipe had "walked" from the back of our house where it was attached to the tap to the back of the garden by the shed where said wanker had hopped over the fence. I took a peek over the fence to see if anything had "walked" further and saw a crow-bar lying in the neighbours gardens. They have a couple of small kids so I thought it was quite unusual. I'd intended to go round there anyway and tell them what had happened (it transpired on chatting with them that one of their kids had been woken in the night and crawled into bed with them, no doubt 'cause of this) and mentioned the crow-bar and said I'd see if the police were bothered about dusting it for prints (had little hope as it had rained so pointless, but worth trying).
Called the police and they confirmed that it was pointless looking for prints due to rain, but could I please drop it off at the station! I asked why and they said that technically keeping something you find in such a manner is classified as stealing! I told them that I wasn't going to waste my time going out of my way to take the crow-bar to the station 'cause some wanker had dropped it whilst trying to steal stuff from me, and that if they had someone coming into the station requesting the return of a crow-bar that they had "lost" that they could contact me and I would happily "return" the crow-bar with force. Honestly what sort of a fucking stupid law is that? Someone trying to steal from you is then treated as a victim? If the police wanted to come round and collect it they were more than welcome to do so, but strangely they weren't in any rush to do so. :wank:
Value your memory? (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/07/17/panasonic_memory_value/)
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They were nicked for theft which is acquisitve crime, that the case was bollox and thrown out doesn't change the basis of their arrest.
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But does that mean they get a record for refusing the drug test despite the fact that they should never have been arrested? :-\
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Police bust up massive rave - errr, wait a minute... (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Facebook_police_raided_my_family_barbecue&in_article_id=704672&in_page_id=34)
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Police bust up massive rave - errr, wait a minute... (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Facebook_police_raided_my_family_barbecue&in_article_id=704672&in_page_id=34)
Should you delete the Calling Of The Barbeque thread so we don't all get raided?
;)
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Cunts. If you're going to use technology to fight crime then please make sure you understand it and how people use it.
There is a "night of mayhem" setting on Facebook events and if the police investigated every one of those that got set up then they wouldn't have any time left to do anything else.
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That's the most outrageous waste of public money I've heard in a long time.
Yesterday, police insisted they were right to end the party. 'We were extremely concerned how the event had been advertised on the internet as an all-night party,' a spokesman said.
What hubris, they can't even admit they fucked up. Oh wait, they don't do that even if they shoot innocent people dead. UK police are retarded scum, I wouldn't trust them to serve and protect a pie.
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I despair.
The proper tactic would have been to use the Terrorism Act 2000.
Amateurs
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Not such good odds (http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/couple-lose-despite-backing-every-greyhound-1831206.html) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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There was only one slight flaw in the plan - it was bollocks.
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Good (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8160753.stm)
The only downside is that the punishment is too lenient and probably won't be dolled out in full.
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They should be locked inside the Pope-mobile wearing dog outfits, somewhere in Central Australia during the dry season.
A new TV channel - Channel PIG - will be created to televise their slow, agonizing deaths from dehydration, to every police station in Britain.
(http://www.nursery.psnz.net/images/smiles/emergence/1974_eating_popcorn.gif)
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Dog suits are too comfortable. Fish suits (http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-05.html) are where its at for dying in the Antipodean sun.
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Silvio's at it again. (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6722553.ece)
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Good effort SB. 72 years old and still partying hard.
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I think the way forward would be to get Phil the Greek and Silvio together, get them pissed for some Derek and Clive style comedy rants. I'd pay for that!
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I can't understand why this isn't increasing his popularity rather than the opposite. :shrug:
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I can't understand why this isn't increasing his popularity rather than the opposite. :shrug:
Coz some twunt let women's votes count as much as men's ::)
;)
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What a ridiculous idea.
On the subject of debauchery.... (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6716543.ece)
I've never understood the attraction of the place and this article sums up why very nicely!
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I can't understand why this isn't increasing his popularity rather than the opposite. :shrug:
Pierluigi in the office next door (he's Italian BTW.. if you hadn't guessed... :) ) recons it makes him more popular as he's seen as more of a man (his statement was re-inforced with a clenched fist thrust in a upwards motion... akin to 'get in' type arm actions you might see in the UK)...
Apparently Paddy Pantsdown gained popularity amongst the electorate after his affair.. but he did the right thing and resigned...
Mind you, all that pales compared to the apparent media acceptance of Max Mosely's S&M romp with 5 prostitutes. Of course thats perfectly fine and acceptable as long as they were not dressed in Nazi uniforms! I despair....
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Music of the brain. (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327154.500-eavesdropping-on-the-music-of-the-brain.html)
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the latest BOGOF offer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8164079.stm)
:shag: first :kiss1: later
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Would you adam and eve it..?
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jul/Week4/15344724.jpg) (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Chipmunk-Invasion-Warnings-Of-Thousands-Of-Rodents-Coming-From-France/Article/200907415344657?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15344657_Chipmunk_Invasion%3A_Warnings_Of_Thousands_Of_Rodents_Coming_From_France_)
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Would you adam and eve it..?
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jul/Week4/15344724.jpg) (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Chipmunk-Invasion-Warnings-Of-Thousands-Of-Rodents-Coming-From-France/Article/200907415344657?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15344657_Chipmunk_Invasion%3A_Warnings_Of_Thousands_Of_Rodents_Coming_From_France_)
young Miss Pie will be over the moon at the though of more furry cuteness in the UK
(of course there will be the inevitable Daily Mail "Foreigners threaten our brave Brit critters with germ warefare" headlines)
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I must be having some sort of animal day... ???
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/7/22/1248272641894/Baby-doll-sheep-or-mini-s-001.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/22/wine-animals)
I particularly liked the line: "To avoid using a tractor, last year he experimented by letting loose giant guinea pigs. That worked initially, he said. "But once the hawks had a taste for them they were sitting prey. We were losing them by the hour. Besides, we would have needed 11 million of them to make it work."
Quality.. :)
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That's fucking genius.
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Would you adam and eve it..?
(http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Chipmunk-Invasion-Warnings-Of-Thousands-Of-Rodents-Coming-From-France/Article/200907415344657?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15344657_Chipmunk_Invasion%3A_Warnings_Of_Thousands_Of_Rodents_Coming_From_France_)
Siberian Chipmunks? Sounds like the episode of Fawlty Towers with the "Siberian 'amster".
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The chipmunks are very cute but I want nothing to do with the wee fuckers if they have ticks, I am already a tick magnet. >:(
The sheep idea is brilliant, and who knew you got mini ones! I hope it works out for him, environmentally friendly and cute, what more could you want?! :thumbsup:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8167336.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8167336.stm)
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I'll be interested to see how this (http://www.peterleemail.co.uk/news/Banned-from-every-pub-in.5477930.jp) pans out.
I know a chap who had an ASBO prohibiting him from being drunk or drinking alcohol in any public place in England or Wales, but this was soon reduced to a more specific area when it was pointed out that he was homeless and physically dependant on alcohol.
Off licenses in Sheffield centre have been given photos of "habitual drunkards" by the police and told not to serve them or risk losing their license. This has led to an interesting system of buying booze via people who the police don't have photos of.
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I think the solution to that womans' problems can only be resolved by her drinking herself to death as soon as possible :beer2:
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I think the solution to that womans' problems can only be resolved by her drinking herself to death as soon as possible :beer2:
Another common solution for people in her position is to drink until the brain damage and dementia get so bad that they can no longer make their own decisions (and sometimes even forget about booze) and so get put under a guardianship order and get looked after in a nursing home.
I like this option better.
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Thats fucking :wank:
Its a medical/personal problem and should be dealt with as such. Banning her from pubs is completely failing to address the issue. If people want to drink themselves to death they should be allowed to do so (providing they're not stealing or hurting anyone else to satiate their habit).
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Don't go shopping with your (teenage) sprogs (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8169564.stm) :shrug: :-\ :wank:
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thats fucking idiotic.
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You couldn't make this shit up!!!
Swedish lesbians suck sperm banks dry (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/24/swedish_shortage/)
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Quality article slackers...
To continue my animal news theme.. I noticed this earlier...
'Tup Taxis....'
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46109000/jpg/_46109402_000185527-1.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/8167624.stm)
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Germans to get all the sun-loungers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8172539.stm) :lol:
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Cause of death found for shopaholic (http://www.fleetwoodtoday.co.uk/latest/Shopaholic-woman-died-of-pneumonia.5500651.jp)
I know she died in January, but this is from today. I know I shouldn't chuckle.......
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More animal antics... Big cat action from Scotland... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8172064.stm)
4th Animal post in a week.. at this rate I'm going to turn into Bill fecking Oddie.
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:whistle: (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11211.msg211910.html#msg211910)
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4th Animal post in a week.. at this rate I'm going to turn into Bill fecking Oddie.
http://www.rathergood.com/bill.html (http://www.rathergood.com/bill.html)
A classic
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Bit of a shitter (http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/116965/Woman-stuck-in-toilet-for-a-week/).
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More animal antics... Big cat action from Scotland... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8172064.stm)
4th Animal post in a week.. at this rate I'm going to turn into Bill fecking Oddie.
Helping his friend in the garden with a camcorder heavy breathing!
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Bit of a shitter (http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/116965/Woman-stuck-in-toilet-for-a-week/).
Oh dear what can the matter be...
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Feckin retards thought that we needed to know what a Toilet looks like...
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Caught one short of a coat:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090729/tuk-woman-denies-cruelty-to-100-dogs-6323e80.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090729/tuk-woman-denies-cruelty-to-100-dogs-6323e80.html)
(http://fuzzybuzz.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/cruella-de-vil-b-web.jpg)
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090729/tuk-woman-denies-cruelty-to-100-dogs-6323e80.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090729/tuk-woman-denies-cruelty-to-100-dogs-6323e80.html)
Mary Ellen Collis, 50, formerly of Wardana Kennels, Brigstock, near Kettering, Northamptonshire, is charged with causing unnecessary suffering to 85 dogs and failing to meet the welfare needs of 14 dogs.
wtf? Since when was 85+14=100?
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Since when was 85+14=100?
99 dogs with problems. There's a Jay-Z joke in there somewhere.
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V good. "Hit ME!" - I'd love to.
Maybe she's the 100. Looks like one.
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Booze master criminals foiled:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/8172406.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/8172406.stm)
Random quotes:
They also took pictures of themselves celebrating on a digital camera posing with cans they had stolen with the depot's beer barrels clearly visible in the background
"This is not a sophisticated offence - it involved no planning at all," he added.
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Wiggins had failed to attend court while Cullen was judged to be too inebriated to be allowed in.
Oh dear. :alky:
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Bollocks, missed that bit! :lol:
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Hmmm, that grumpy raider seems vaguely familiar. :-\
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46122000/jpg/_46122286_cullen_466x282.jpg)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1202767/I-afford-live-healthily-says-600-month-benefits-woman-lost-weight-free-gastric-band-surgery.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1202767/I-afford-live-healthily-says-600-month-benefits-woman-lost-weight-free-gastric-band-surgery.html)
for fucks sake!! eat yourself to death then and save us tax payers some money
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'People ask why I don't snack on an apple - they're cheap, but emotionally I don't always feel like an apple.'
or by the looks of you ever feel like an apple.
26, she looks about 60.
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As that article in in The Mail it is probably, at best, not entirely true. However, even if only part of it has any basis in fact, then the fat cunt should die.
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Jas, did you not read the article? It clearly shows her in "Closer" saying "I'm a fat bitch give me more cash for food", and that's proof enough for me. Top quality news mag that one.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/28/article-1202767-05DEC4DC000005DC-16_233x326.jpg)
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Forgive my oversight.
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Jas, did you not read the article? It clearly shows her in "Closer" saying "I'm a fat bitch give me more cash for food", and that's proof enough for me. Top quality news mag that one.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/28/article-1202767-05DEC4DC000005DC-16_233x326.jpg)
'jordon is a slut' shocker
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Almost as surprising as "Bush is cunt shocker". (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/climate-change-obama-administration)
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Bollocks, I just dont seem to be able to help it....
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46127000/jpg/_46127008_-6.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8174850.stm)
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Knob. (http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/david-cameron-makes-twat-out-himself-talking-about-twitter-absolute-radio20883)
It sickens me that this vacuous, rubber faced cunt is going to stroll into power next year and proceed to fuck this country up the arse until it is dead. Fuck you Cameron, fuck you in the face with an iron spike you say-anything, plastic, Thatcherite shitstain .
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Knob. (http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/david-cameron-makes-twat-out-himself-talking-about-twitter-absolute-radio20883)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh the irony :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Just remembered this from last year, awesome video (of cretins):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm)
Apologies if it's been posted before.
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Shouldn't he have got some sort of medal?
Watch out Bubba! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8175746.stm)
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Just remembered this from last year, awesome video (of cretins):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm)
Apologies if it's been posted before.
When Hughes failed to arrive on time, District Judge Andrew Shaw issued an arrest warrant, adding: "I hope the force will soon be with him."
:lol:
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Just remembered this from last year, awesome video (of cretins):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7360871.stm)
Apologies if it's been posted before.
Those two cousins were always in the papers in Bangor last year. First for setting up the "church", and then about a week later, for getting attacked, then again for getting their "church" vandalised. They really came in for some stick, but I suppose they were a bit foolish.
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It sickens me that this vacuous, rubber faced cunt is going to stroll into power next year and proceed to fuck this country up the arse until it is dead. Fuck you Cameron, fuck you in the face with an iron spike you say-anything, plastic, Thatcherite shitstain .
That's such a great couple of sentences.
Wish I'd have thought of it.
I'd love to hear what the same character says about the old witch herself
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I liked the reply etc...
slug says...
Dear 'Boffer',
whilst it is important for members of the general public to engage in spirited discussion about politics in general, your earlier entry shows evidence of a barely restrained psychotic frenzy. Have you considered therapy?
Boffer says...
Wanting to cave his vapid, lying, dough-filled head in is a perfectly natural reaction.
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Boffer for PM. Sounds like a perfect candidate.
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No shit Sherlock. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/jul/31/car-scrappage-false-economy)
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Man climbs like monkey
http://media.smh.com.au/national/breaking-news/man-climbs-like-a-monkey-657569.html (http://media.smh.com.au/national/breaking-news/man-climbs-like-a-monkey-657569.html)
couldn't decide whether to post it here or red-tips lol
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Man climbs like monkey
http://media.smh.com.au/national/breaking-news/man-climbs-like-a-monkey-657569.html (http://media.smh.com.au/national/breaking-news/man-climbs-like-a-monkey-657569.html)
couldn't decide whether to post it here or red-tips lol
Interesting figure of four he does there in the middle
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Total legend dies. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8177945.stm) Very sad - Italia '90 is a very strong childhood memory of mine.
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At fucking last (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8177343.stm)
A step in the right direction, next is to get euthanasia legal in this country and some decent, well regulated clinics set up.
It saddens me that we'll happily put an animal down (be it a pet cat or a horse thats fallen in the grand national) who's quality of life has diminished to essentially nothing, and who is suffering and has no hope of recovery, yet the same compassion can't be extended to a fellow of the same species. Just goes to show how fucked up laws are.
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I don't entirely agree with you, but I ain't assisting your can opening on this thread.
I think it'll be an interesting process, but I ain't convinced much will change.
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Those clinics...
If I wanted to die w/ dignity I'd pour petrol over myself and throw myself at The Queen.
EDIT, make that Charles.
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be it a pet cat or a horse thats fallen in the grand national
I'd take more of an interest in racing if more cats were involved
(http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/he-man/battle-cat.jpg)
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With mouse jockeys. :agree:
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With mouse jockeys. :agree:
(http://i.current.com/images/asset/894/252/11/XQeVLo.jpg)
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be it a pet cat or a horse thats fallen in the grand national
I'd take more of an interest in racing if more cats were involved
If you tried to make cats race it would be something like the 100yards sprint for people with no sense of direction (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/284b7cef6e/monty-python-silly-olympiad-from-montypythonfan) as they'd just wander off and do their own thing.
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Knickers in a Twist (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/31/power_cut/)
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A plan to demolish a building in Cankiri, central Turkey went badly wrong when... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8179857.stm)
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D'oh. Class.
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Pull your thumb out and find yourself a job you lazy bint (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8180806.stm) :wank:
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Pull your thumb out and find yourself a job you lazy bint (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8180806.stm) :wank:
so she got a degree and didn't have a job inside 3 months? neither do most graduates. cry me a fucking river.
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Galloway expresses opinion shocker! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/aug/03/george-galloway-ofcom-press-tv)
:shrug:
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Scottish heritage rocked by haggis revelations. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8180791.stm)
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That explains why it tastes like shit :)
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Russians: Never let the truth get in the way of drinking shitloads of booze. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/03/russia-wales-whisky).
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Middlesbrough IS the worst place to live in Britain so stop complaining says Ofcom (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/aug/03/location-location-location-kirstie-allsopp-ofcom)
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'Pretty boy' insures his legs for £90 000 000..... (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2569871/Ronaldo-insures-legs-for-90m.html)
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Scottish heritage rocked by haggis revelations. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8180791.stm)
I hate to be a pedant (well actually, I rather enjoy it, but it can be a burden sometimes), but shouldn't the first paragraph read: "... an historian...", as opposed to "...a historian..."? Surely the BBC should be getting these sorts of things correct? Is it actually me who's wrong (it has been known to happen)?
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Scottish heritage rocked by haggis revelations. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8180791.stm)
I hate to be a pedant (well actually, I rather enjoy it, but it can be a burden sometimes), but shouldn't the first paragraph read: "... an historian...", as opposed to "...a historian..."? Surely the BBC should be getting these sorts of things correct? Is it actually me who's wrong (it has been known to happen)?
Unless you're breaking the rule you use 'an' in place of 'a' when the following word begins with a vowel or vowel sound.
You can check at one of these (http://tinyurl.com/ltgp8a) ;)
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Scottish heritage rocked by haggis revelations. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8180791.stm)
I hate to be a pedant (well actually, I rather enjoy it, but it can be a burden sometimes), but shouldn't the first paragraph read: "... an historian...", as opposed to "...a historian..."? Surely the BBC should be getting these sorts of things correct? Is it actually me who's wrong (it has been known to happen)?
Opinion appears to be divided but there's no need if the 'h' is sounded:
a historian
an hour
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http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/hotel (http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/hotel)
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To be fair to Drew I think he was more referring to the highly old school way of doing it were just about any word starting with an H was used in conjunction with "an".
A bit outdated I think.
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To be fair to Drew I think he was more referring to the highly old school way of doing it were just about any word starting with an H was used in conjunction with "an".
A bit outdated I think.
Great, so now I'm old too! :( :alky:
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I still talk proper, like, by using an in front of h- words.
Oh, and h is pronounced aitch, not haitch :lol:
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I recon if you're into your silent (h)aitches, then words like "historian" should be spoken (and indeed written) with an "an", but if you're a toff who slavishly pronounces every letter in a word then you need to say "a historian". People who say "an historian" with an H are idiots.
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I recon if you're into your silent (h)aitches, then words like "historian" should be spoken (and indeed written) with an "an", but if you're a toff who slavishly pronounces every letter in a word then you need to say "a historian". People who say "an historian" with an H are idiots.
I think I sit midway between those people who pronounce every single letter, and people who totally miss out letters "I'm from 'emel 'empstead". I don't always pronounce them, but they're still there.
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Hardly old school or outdated. BBC journos and editors should have one of these (http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Oxford-Dictionary-Writers-Editors/dp/0198610408/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249390019&sr=1-1)on their desk. Which should prevent this kind of error in print. It's 'an historian' by the way in there, which interestingly contradicts the Ask Oxford link above. I'll stick with the dictionary I think, not the internet.
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I think we should settle this with a fight.
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Mick Ryan in crap article shock! (http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=48657)
"A new study by researchers at the Center for Injury Research and Policy of the Research Institute at the Nationwide Children's Hospital found that as the popularity of the sport has escalated, so have the number of injuries."
Really, sir? You surprise me.
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Its not surprising, its bullshit.
Basically they have hard facts on the number of injuries but fuck all idea about the increase in the number participants, so whilst there has been an overall increase in injuries it might actually be a smaller percentage of those participating. You'd also really have to account for the time each person spends on the rock too to work out a rate of injury per-person hour of time spent climbing (standardised by the age structure of the population).
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the supposed 63% increase is also over the period of 17 years, which all things considered doesn't seem that much of an increase - only works out at about 3% year on year if you took it to be a steady increase (it won't be).
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just when you thought it was safe to turn on the radio (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8184225.stm)
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He just doesn't get it does he? :shrug: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8184953.stm)
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just when you thought it was safe to turn on the radio (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8184225.stm)
Williams described the new record as "a killer".
No doubt about that.
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He just doesn't get it does he? :shrug: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8184953.stm)
Is he sponsored by Ministry of Sound?
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http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148993703 (http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148993703)
Wonder if he saw that coming? (sorry).
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http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148993703 (http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148993703)
Wonder if he saw that coming? (sorry).
Thats been done before (though I dare not enter the requisite search terms into Google whilst at work!)
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In sworn statements, two ex-employees claim Blackwater’s owner, Erik Prince, murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. One also charged Prince “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe.” We speak with investigative journalist andbestselling author Jeremy Scahill, who broke the story for The Nation magazine.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/5/in_explosive_allegations_ex_employees_link (http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/5/in_explosive_allegations_ex_employees_link)
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"irrespective of the uniforms we wore, we were all victims" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8186578.stm)
It's impossible to imagine what it must have been like.
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sorry for posting this bloomin everywhere, but in links with the post above
Pull a quid out of your pocket ( via your payment card of choice ), give it to The Royal British Legion (via the radiohead website) and get a hauntingly beautiful tune from Radiohead
http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/ (http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/)
Thats all from me or i'll be getting :spank:
:whistle:
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??? ??? ??? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/aug/07/bob-dylan-christmas-album)
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to be honest I think they've missed the mark with that promotion - I'd give them a fiver if they promise not to inflict a radiohead track on me.
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??? ??? ??? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/aug/07/bob-dylan-christmas-album)
I wonder if anyone would be better at sucking all the joy out of a Christmas song? Leonard Cohen? Chris Martin? Dido?
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Eminem?
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Sorry if already posted
Secure UK ID card cloned in 12 minutes using a phone & laptop (http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2009/08/06/237215/uk-national-id-card-cloned-in-12-minutes.htm)
People are going to be queuing up to get one of these.
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Another job well done by the government then. What next, the nations nuclear deterrent can be controlled by a 48k spectrum?
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Flambee'd nuts.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8189296.stm) :o
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Another job well done by the government then. What next, the nations nuclear deterrent can be controlled by a 48k spectrum?
As the article says, they don't give a shit if they are secure or not.
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Piss in the shower to save water say Brazilian ECO warriors (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/07/brazilian_golden_shower_green/)
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Honest guv, it was the cat that did it (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/07/man_blames_cat/).
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Honest guv, it was the cat that did it (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/07/man_blames_cat/).
It MUST be true... the Gruaniad's got the story too... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2009/aug/07/cat-download-child-pr0nography)
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Honest guv, it was the cat that did it (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/07/man_blames_cat/).
It MUST be true... the Gruaniad's got the story too... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2009/aug/07/cat-download-child-pr0nography)
Just remember to change the "r0" to "or" in the URL
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:yawn: .......... :furious: (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-jailed-for-yawning-10-aug10,0,3679452.story)
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/world/pakistan/Revealed-Jihadis-thrice-attacked-Pakistan-nuclear-sites/articleshow/4879235.cms?placeValuesBefore (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/world/pakistan/Revealed-Jihadis-thrice-attacked-Pakistan-nuclear-sites/articleshow/4879235.cms?placeValuesBefore)
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This website (http://exiledonline.com/) is full of fascinating / terrifying stuff.
Yasha Levine is living in a sub-prime "exurb" as an experiment and his articles about it are well worth reading:
http://exiledonline.com/desert-dispatch-meth-morons-and-murder-in-victorville/ (http://exiledonline.com/desert-dispatch-meth-morons-and-murder-in-victorville/)
http://exiledonline.com/are-subprime-cities-on-their-way-to-becoming-americas-very-own-gulag-archipelago/ (http://exiledonline.com/are-subprime-cities-on-their-way-to-becoming-americas-very-own-gulag-archipelago/)
http://exiledonline.com/my-subprime-suburbs-hidden-identity-how-i-learned-that-my-mcmansion-was-a-bastard-child-of-the-80s/ (http://exiledonline.com/my-subprime-suburbs-hidden-identity-how-i-learned-that-my-mcmansion-was-a-bastard-child-of-the-80s/)
etc.
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Some worrying shit going on there Jasper, good find.
On a sadder note...
Parents baffled by Science (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8195805.stm) :wall:
Maybe its just me, but I learnt the answers to the top three questions as a child.....and still remember them (although now have a bit more SCIENCE to bulk it out in more detail).
Anyway, if you feel stoopid 'cause you can't answer questions your kids ask you, why not get of your arse and do something about it. Plus if you'd paid attention in school in the first place you might have avoided the question of "Where do babies come from?" in the first place as you might have used some contraception and avoided having children at the age of 13. :shrug:
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The top three most-asked questions were: "Where do babies come from?",.....
Answer: "ask your mother".
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Right I'll stop posting stuff from The Exiled for a bit I promise but first, this (http://exiledonline.com/journalism-face-off-russian-shadiness-vs-american-objectivity/) will be really interesting for anyone with an opinion on journalistic integrity and "balance".
I would recommend avoiding the video link unless fat people do it for you.
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Well blow me!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/paramedic-guilty-misconduct-oral-sex (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/paramedic-guilty-misconduct-oral-sex)
I thought Old Cheese was a teacher :P
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I thought that was Gary Glitter at first.
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Hmmm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Society/Pix/pictures/2009/8/12/1250077396758/Oral-sex-paramedic-001.jpg)(http://www.thetf.net/uploads/Starscream/2008-08-21_154829_Gary_Glitter.jpg)
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Well blow me!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/paramedic-guilty-misconduct-oral-sex (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/paramedic-guilty-misconduct-oral-sex)
Maybe he was demonstrating the "Kiss of Life" :P
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Unbelievable. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/11/nhs-united-states-republican-health)
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Par for the course, my late grandfather and die hard republican used to call Thatcher a commie sympathiser.
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Maybe old news to you guys but, WTF?
(http://vice.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c625053ef011571cb9473970b-450wi)
more at
http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/07/this-woman-kills-cats-just-to-piss-people-off-and-then-publishes-books-about-it/ (http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/07/this-woman-kills-cats-just-to-piss-people-off-and-then-publishes-books-about-it/)
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Ah I just can't resist.......
http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/08/mcmansions-for-mcdonalds/ (http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/08/mcmansions-for-mcdonalds/)
I stand by my assertion that McDonalds are a bunch of total and utter cunts.
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“We are not basically in the food business. We are in the real estate business. The only reason we sell fifteen cent hamburgers is because they are the greatest producer of revenue from which our tenants can pay us our rent.”
cunts.
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Man becomes a naked sculpture. (http://tinyurl.com/nkmujb) It is even better as I know him!
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this (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Total_nutter_ruins_couples_holiday_photo&in_article_id=719241&in_page_id=2) made me cry with laughter.
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whats most remarkable/lucky is that the autofocus picked it up rather than staying put.
Interestingly that is the same lake where we got engaged.
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this (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Total_nutter_ruins_couples_holiday_photo&in_article_id=719241&in_page_id=2) made me cry with laughter.
Me too (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3272.msg214379.html#msg214379) (https://themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/roflmao.gif)
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WTF since when did saving a life become a sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8197885.stm) :shrug:
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if we take as given that he is guilty, surely this guy has forfeited his right to freedom? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8198603.stm)
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WTF since when did saving a life become a sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8197885.stm) :shrug:
At least it is one of the few sports that originates from and is grounded in something with a point to it.
Of the list there, I think it has the most merit and would at least raise the profile of beach lifesaving.
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I'm absolutely fucking sick of the Olympics already. Every day there seems to be some non story or comment relating to "2012". Today on the radio it was some shit about women's boxing. Wake me up when it's over.
:yawn:
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i wonder how long it will be before the olympics are held in the UK?
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Wise words from Megan Fox (http://www.break.com/index/megan-fox-public-service-announcement.html)
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WTF since when did saving a life become a sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8197885.stm) :shrug:
At least it is one of the few sports that originates from and is grounded in something with a point to it.
Of the list there, I think it has the most merit and would at least raise the profile of beach lifesaving.
Errr, isn't swimming already in the Olympics?
What are they going to do, have a heep of lifeguards who all jump in and race to save this guy..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zjCc_VyxM4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zjCc_VyxM4)
(I think Eric is an absolute hero, true spirit of the Olympics which is simply taking part, but I couldn't find anything else with Olympic swimmers drowning).
And anyway, how do you define the "best" life-saver? The quickest to drag someone out of the water, the most effective mouth-to-mouth, the most rib-bones broken during CPR?
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It makes as much sense as having synchronised brass rubbing, twatting about on ice and softball in there.
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It makes as much sense as having synchronised twat rubbing with a softball, on ice.
I'd watch it
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I couldn't find anything else with Olympic swimmers drowning
i'm amazed this guy didn't need the lifesavers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5nqeFWufrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5nqeFWufrE)
I recon if the American Lifesaving Association of America or whoever can club together enough of a bribe they can get it into the olympics no bother, just like the japs did with those incomprehensible track cycling events.
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Errr, isn't swimming already in the Olympics?
What are they going to do, have a heap of lifeguards who all jump in and race to save this guy..
And anyway, how do you define the "best" life-saver? The quickest to drag someone out of the water, the most effective mouth-to-mouth, the most rib-bones broken during CPR?
you leave me no choice.......http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9] [url]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9 (http://[url)[/url] ;)
You quite clearly haven't got a clue what competitive lifesaving involves, but as a brit that is hardly surprising. It is pretty popular in countries that actually have a beach culture. And besided I am not saying it is worthy of inclusion as an olympic sport, just that it at least has a grounding in something practical, and would be good to raise the profile of something at least beneficial to humankind in general. And it was odd that you singled it out for criticism.
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you leave me no choice....... [url]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9] [url]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9 (http://[url=http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9)[/url] ;)
:lol:
You quite clearly haven't got a clue what competitive lifesaving involves, but as a brit that is hardly surprising. It is pretty popular in countries that actually have a beach culture.
You got me there I don't have a clue, but I did live in Perth (Australia) for a year, went to the beaches a lot and saw plenty of lifeguards on said beaches but never saw any training or competition type events.
And besided I am not saying it is worthy of inclusion as an olympic sport, just that it at least has a grounding in something practical, and would be good to raise the profile of something at least beneficial to humankind in general. And it was odd that you singled it out for criticism.
I singled it out precisely because of that, its an activity/endeavour that benefits humankind in general and is one of the most altruistic acts an individual can make. Trying to turn it into a sport, in my opinion, belittles and denigrates the most laudable acts/endeavours of those kind enough to endanger their own lives to save others.
:-*
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Actually having thought about it for a while, if having lifesaving in the olympics means another event where with assed-up honeys cavorting around a beach in swimwear (http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/BeachVolleyball.jpg) then I don't see a problem here. I would also pettition the IOC to allow Beach Trampolining and Beach Yoga into the games too.
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You're on to something there dave. What about Beach Jelly Wrestling?
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you leave me no choice....... [url=http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9] [url]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9] [url]http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9 (http://[url=http://tinyurl.com/op9rv9)[/url] ;)
:lol:
That is very funny.
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Bollocks. Not to self - check hyperlinks before posting. You can guess what is is though.
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Bollocks. Not to self - check hyperlinks before posting. You can guess what is is though.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/35kl4l0.jpg)
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^ Reckon Hoffz nipping a turtlehead off w/ the strain of sucking his gut in.
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(http://www.randomshite.co.uk/shite/hasselhoff.gif)
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Bollocks. Not to self - check hyperlinks before posting. You can guess what is is though.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/35kl4l0.jpg)
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(http://web7.twitpic.com/img/23047614-5726bbc84a7de967944864d56121a3c6.4a843223-full.jpg)
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RIP Les Paul. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8200385.stm)
And, in homage:
(http://www.insidesocal.com/friendlyfire/slash.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh217/Sakis3/john.jpg?t=1250182770)
(http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/image.php?u=126936&type=sigpic&dateline=1249093909)
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/uploads/Image/jamessailorrox.jpg)
Fucking ace guitars.
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Who's the no talent cvnt at the top?
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Despite his non-Tory appearance, he's actually a very well accomplished, technical guitarist.
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Saul Hudson. Not a tory, apparently.
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Exam standards are slipping (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Boy_gets_prize_for_catching_a_bus&in_article_id=720027&in_page_id=34) :-\ :wall:
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That's truly ridiculous.
As is that fucking wanker Daniel Hannan. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/pandora/pandora-hannans-american-healthcare-tour-1770647.html)
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Hanan is the next Norman Tebbitt.
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Hanan is the next Norman Tebbitt.
:agree: just like Jasper said, a fucking wanker :)
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Get a fucking grip (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8202188.stm)
On that basis one should also ban red-meat from the diet since it too increases the risk of colorectal cancer.
Bear in mind also that meat from areas where there is a lot of bracken double's the risk of colorectal cancer too by virtue of the carcinogenic properties of the spores that bracken produce, but hey the baseline risk is 1 in 100000 so 2 in 100000 ain't that bad really.
So all in all, its looking like those with a carnivorous streak are up shit creak without a paddle. I know lets take this to its "logical" conclusion, the government should ban meat, and put everyone on a restricted diet just so they can live longer (after all some research suggests this to be the case (http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=restricted diet longevity), but then other research suggests otherwise (http://www.livescience.com/health/090127-bad-calorie-restriction.html)). Just bump up the subsidy to farmers and everything will be all-right.
Besides which, all this scaremongering about how to "avoid risk factors for cancers" fails to address one of the biggest problems facing western societies today (beyond governments doing whatever the fuck they want abroad, and coppers beating up innocent people) that is a burgeoning ageing population that we can't currently care for properly anyway, let alone when it increases several fold over the coming decades. Hmm, cancer and dementia on the increase in the elderly you say? I wonder why that is? Could it be because they're not dying from communicable diseases, and shock horror, people have to die of something
Oh and the above report is conjecture based on the extrapolation of results based on studies done in adults, not in children.
Let people do whatever the fuck they want and enjoy their lives instead of living in fear of what "might" happen. :furious: :furious: :furious:
On a lighter note, cocaine use in Washington is on the up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8204857.stm) (must be the "Obama feel good factor").
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That's truly ridiculous.
As is that fucking wanker Daniel Hannan. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/pandora/pandora-hannans-american-healthcare-tour-1770647.html)
Tory fuckwits display true colours shock.....
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no shit sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8204842.stm)
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Yet another dumb criminal. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8204938.stm)
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Get a fucking grip (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8202188.stm)
On that basis one should also ban red-meat from the diet since it too increases the risk of colorectal cancer.
Marni Craze
Why do people with great names like this waste them doing mundane things. Should be a rockstar or a daredevil. Or something.
Think of the possibilities of kids names...
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Why do people with great names like this waste them doing mundane things.
like "Tyson Gay" - no-one remembers second place.
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That would be much better as a headline than a name.
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That would be much better as a headline than a name.
(http://www.bartonccc.edu/sports/trackfield/tf0708/photos0708/Olympics2008/08USTrials/TysonGay977.jpg)
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That would be much better as a headline than a name.
Hello! beat you to the exclusive:
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/CyLwiki/Untitled-1.jpg)
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NOB (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Thief-trapped-hand-in-car.5562585.jp)
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I'm half surprised he wasn't compensated for his hand injury- loss of earnings and all that shit.
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NOB (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Thief-trapped-hand-in-car.5562585.jp)
'What are you doing with your arm in my car?' He replied 'It wasn't me'.
??
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That doesn't suprise me at all.
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NOB (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Thief-trapped-hand-in-car.5562585.jp)
'What are you doing with your arm in my car?' He replied 'It wasn't me'.
??
"he had been desperate to get home to Hull." glad to see we're exporting our finest to Barnsley ;)
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NOB (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Thief-trapped-hand-in-car.5562585.jp)
'What are you doing with your arm in my car?' He replied 'It wasn't me'.
I think we have the culprit.
(http://music.hungamatime.com/English/Images/Shaggy.jpg)
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It REALLY wasn't me. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/18/eyewitness-evidence-wrongful-conviction)
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That kids a twat if he admitted to theft, he clearly didn't get away with anything to it was attempted theft, no? (Sloper, please correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am).
Its pretty stupid, almost on a par with New Zealand's dumbest criminal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8204938.stm)
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Just read the end of the article and WTF?
Julian Brook, defending, said: "He was sat on his doorstep at home when a van pulled up and asked if he wanted to go with them and do some work.
"He has been working with the travelling community for several weeks but they wouldn't allow him home.
"He was threatened with assault so he sneaked off.
"He did not have enough for a bus so he tried to steal a car."
Some fucking defence that is!! Just because you can't afford a bus its ok to steal a car, try using those two things protruding from the bottom of your torso, they might actually get you somewhere, unlike your head which clearly isn't being used and wouldn't get you anywhere even if it was engaged.
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It REALLY wasn't me. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/18/eyewitness-evidence-wrongful-conviction)
He's a Weegie, therefore must have comitted a crime that deserved a year at some point in his life anyway.
:)
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Another amazing revelation (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/08/18/cdc_gaming_report/)
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It always comes back to :greed: :greed: :greed: (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/19/ministers-pushed-lockerbie-treaty-libya)
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Just need to treat the rest of the population with the same degree of respect (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8210399.stm) and stop dragging your heels after the EU ruled that retaining DNA samples and genotypes of innocent people is not allowed you bunch of slack, piss-poor excuses for politicians :spank: :wall: :wank:
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Don't worry you can help by voting them out at the next election.
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Don't worry you can help by voting them out at the next election.
And they'll be replaced by......the same old fucking bullshit :thumbsdown:
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And your alternative suggestion is what exactly? Lib fucking Dem?
By your deeds shall you be known is if trite none the less useful in forming a view in matters political and let's leave the Tories policies aside for the moment (and yes their policies are less than fully formed) and think what Labour has done on the domestic front.
1. Introduced tuition fees,
2. introduced id card
3. sought to introduce detention without charge for 90 days, etc
4. sought to abolish trial by jury
5. reformed the banking regulation system and regardless of the causes or not of the current crisis this did not achieve its objectives.
6. imposed means testing on things like criminal legal aid thereby introducing a two tier criminal law system
7. privatised things like the nuclear weapons establishment, now even Kith Jospeh on crack wouldn't think that nuclear weapons and the profit motive are good bed fellows.
8. privatised parts of the NHS, see ISTC etc
9. and have I mentioned the economy?
10 or unemployment?
This bastard government, the son of thatcherite market economics and dewey eyed romantic student socialism should have been aborted in utero: will the next government be any better, well I'm not sure. I hope (nay even nearly pray) that it will but let's face it, it can hardly be any worse.
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I think Slackers is voicing his apathy for ALL of the political parties in the UK - which is certainly something I feel (apologies if I am wrong there SL). Sadly, politics in the UK has a sense of 'choosing the lesser of evils' rather than 'I want to vote for them'....
That - is a shame, whatever side of the political spectrum you come from
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Oh I vote (although as I pointed out in the European Elections when my ballot paper was marked by the fuckwits at the polling station I do not divulge who I vote for in a secret ballot).
I just can't stand the stasis of a two party system who are essentially the same. Neither stands for the traditional values that historically they have (as you've ably demonstrated wit your list of items which includes a fair few privatisations of traditionally public sector areas), and both will just roll over to be seen to be doing what they think will get them the majority of votes.
Neither has any impetus to change this status quo to say some form of proportional representation that might actually reflect the desires of a vast majority of disenchanted voters, although I'd hate to see things go the way they have in Australia where you get fined for not voting as youthen have a bunch of uninformed idiots screwing up the system by voting randomly simply to avoid a fine.
I thought the Conservatives started privatising the NHS on their way out, they did the same for public utility companies and the RailNetworks didn't they?
I just don't think that having the Tories back in power (and it will unfortunately be them*) will actually make any difference, they'll tow the line and keep on doing what they think will keep them in power, regardless of any promises or policies they may blow their trumpet about.
If Lib Dem were by some miracle to get a majority then we would be afforded the chance to see if they will, as they have said they will do for years, bring in a PR as opposed to First Past The Post system, which would radically change the playing field forever. Yes there are pitfalls to a PR system, but they're not as bad (well certainly no worse) than those of a First Past The Post approach.
*Mainly due to the mass of idiots who say things like "Well I would vote for someone other than Labour/Conservative, but they've no one else has a chance of getting in", of course not you fucking twat and its precisely because of that sort of dumb attitude :wall:.
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I agree that the current fptp system gives the appearance of a duopoly, however it's less than a century since Labour were a fringe party and the duopoly was Tory / Liberal.
Personally I see a fragmentation on the supposed left and the decline and virtual death of labour (Greame keep calm
deary) with the Lib Dems taking the leftist center ground and the Tories the rightish center.
As for privatising the utilities, other than rail this has tended to have produced higher levels of service and lower costs. Some privatisations work, others do not. Those that do not are those where there is no true markets, eg nuclear weapons, air traffic control etc. Now then just a quick one the Labour govt looks as if it wants to sell of the forensive sience service. <mc enroe moment. you cannot be serious, no you cannot be fucking serious cont on p 94
PR would be a fucking nightmare with all sorts of nutters, UKIP, BNP, Greens getting elected and with the consequence of government always being one step away from chaos: look at Isreal for a good example. If we need electoral reform and I am not pursuaded that we do we should shift to the stv method and have compulsary voting.
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But if none of the parties are really left/middle/right anymore then whats the fucking point in having "parties" in the traditional sense? Why not have decent people who listen to their electorate and represent their electorates view point in parliament as opposed to some false allegiance to some set of outdated ideals?
I guess in a sense thats why you're advocating STV, but then are either Labour or the Tories going to bring this in? Are they fuck! So we're stuck with the shit situation we're in.....indefinitely.
With the number of apathetic, poorly educated politically unaware, or just plain uninterested in politics people out there I don't think voting should be compulsory, as I wrote, you'll get people going along just to avoid a fine and it would screw up the system.
Oh and another electoral reform I'd like to see is a box for "None of the above cunts" :P
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If there's one thing that's guaranteed to make me seethe, it's this term "voter apathy". There are people all over the coutry using this term to cover up the fact that they're too bone fucking idle to get off their fat arses and get down to the polling booth.
Apathy is absolutely no reason at all to accept the status quo. People moan and moan about the government (whoever it is) and when there's an election you finally get your only chance to do something about it, to express your displeasure or satisfaction with the current governement in a way that actually has some influence. Why then do people say all the parties are the same and not bother voting?! It's beyond me!
At the very least go and vote so you can be smug and say "well, I didn't vote for them cunts" when the next shower of bastards fucks up.
I'm not having a go at anyone, just venting my anger and frustration. If I hear the phrase "they're all the same" I will demand satisfaction though ;)
/rant over - sorry
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Shame Cameron doesn't have the cahuna's to bring in PR. That could make me vote for his party. I would probably vomit in the polling booth in the process, but thats the sort of magnitude of change I think is needed.
Incidentally, I interviewed my MP (Diana Johnson) yesterday for part of a research project I'm involved with. She seems to be a very caring and attentive MP - to her constituents needs. It was quite a fillip to talk to someone so obviously motivated by helping the people she represents rather than the tarnished crook image we tend to have of MP's in general. She's not the sharpest tool in the shed - but I was impressed by her attitude.
Funny system we have. I would vote for her at the election as she seems to do a good job looking after W.Hulls needs, but might not vote for her because of the Labour Govt. Therein lies another problem...
Ach, developing a headache. not sure if its thinking about politics or cricket... ;)
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Anyway, enough politics, I'm sure there's a thread somewhere for that.
Common sense really (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8211925.stm)
Palgirism : the copying of another person's ideas, text, or other creative work, and presenting it as one's own, especially without permission (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8213272.stm)
There were a number of different types of game on offer, including a tank shooter set at the start of the Iran-Iraq war, a platform adventure set in Persia, an adventure game where you play the role of a girl called Sara; a young student caught up in events during the early stages of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, and a role-playing game called Age of Pahlevans based on Iranian mythology.
I wonder if Sara wears a burka?
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a platform adventure set in Persia
a bit like this you recon?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2vcsug2.gif)
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I always wondered what "palgirism" meant.
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a platform adventure set in Persia
a bit like this you recon?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2vcsug2.gif)
Is that from... prince of persia?? that brings back some memories....
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I always wondered what "palgirism" meant.
It means nothing, other than "slack---line can't spell" :)
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Hawking British and alive (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/12/hawking_british_and_alive/) :o :lol:
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Class. He sounds American though? :)
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That's fucking dynamite. Sums up the whole ridiculous farce perfectly.
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That's fucking dynamite. Sums up the whole ridiculous farce perfectly.
Yup - this was on the BBC news the other day - how Hawkins was being used as a NHS political football (now theres a visual metaphor...) in the States... until they realised that they were completetly wrong, and he was YES British, AND recieved good treatment from the US.
Unbemuthafeckinglievable.
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Class. He sounds American though? :)
fuck me, you're on form today mate! :lol:
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Don't know how I failed to hear about this...
US women protest the right to go topless legally like their male counterparts (http://www.gotopless.org/index.php)
Probably not safe for work!
Picked up from this story (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/21/gotopless_protest_us/), and by the sounds of it, if breast-feeding in public can result in you having your children taken away from you and investigations into dubious treatment of them instigated then th US constitution (or laws or whatever) seriously needs revising. :wank:
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Don't know how I failed to hear about this...
US women protest the right to go topless legally like their male counterparts (http://www.gotopless.org/index.php)
Probably not safe for work!
Have a wad for that SLackers. I always like a good excuse to keep abreast of current affairs :)
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Why not just make us drink out of one of these.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8217775.stm)
(http://www.chinawholesalegift.com/pic/New-Baby-Gifts/Baby-Cup/Baby-Cup-09441224998.jpg)
In lighter news....
The circus show begins (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8218397.stm) :lol:
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Why not just make us drink out of one of these.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8217775.stm)
(http://www.chinawholesalegift.com/pic/New-Baby-Gifts/Baby-Cup/Baby-Cup-09441224998.jpg)
I spent a few months working in the call centre for Telewest in Shef and we had to use tommy tipper style mugs when "on the phones".
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Any room at the Inn? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8218069.stm)
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Bang! and the radiation is gone.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6078265/Nuclear-experts-clean-radioactive-site-with-Cillit-Bang.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6078265/Nuclear-experts-clean-radioactive-site-with-Cillit-Bang.html)
Wonder if it works on tumours and cancers caused by the leaks.
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Why not just make us drink out of one of these.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8217775.stm)
What shite. Even having it in plastic is just an excuse to throw it as you know it can cause no harm. Think of all the times you've seen someone get soaked or got a drenching yourself at gigs. And why are the home office investing money in the design when plastic glasses already exist?!
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Bang! and the radiation is gone.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6078265/Nuclear-experts-clean-radioactive-site-with-Cillit-Bang.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6078265/Nuclear-experts-clean-radioactive-site-with-Cillit-Bang.html)
Wonder if it works on tumours and cancers caused by the leaks.
Thats brilliant, I'd imagine the marketing team are rubbing their hands with glee as they can now ditch the shitty cleaning of oxidised coins from their adds and replace it with a glowing radioactive plutonium stain!
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Bang! and the radiation is gone.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6078265/Nuclear-experts-clean-radioactive-site-with-Cillit-Bang.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6078265/Nuclear-experts-clean-radioactive-site-with-Cillit-Bang.html)
Wonder if it works on tumours and cancers caused by the leaks.
Thats brilliant, I'd imagine the marketing team are rubbing their hands with glee as they can now ditch the shitty cleaning of oxidised coins from their adds and replace it with a glowing radioactive plutonium stain!
Supberb! most entertaining story I've read in a while. They'll be ditching "BARRY SCOTT!" in favour of Robert Oppenheimer.
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Supberb! most entertaining story I've read in a while. They'll be ditching "BARRY SCOTT!" in favour of Robert Oppenheimer.
"I am become Cillit Bang, the destroyer of plutonium stains."
Needs a bit of work I think...
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Supberb! most entertaining story I've read in a while. They'll be ditching "BARRY SCOTT!" in favour of Robert Oppenheimer.
"I am become Cillit Bang, the destroyer of plutonium stains."
Needs a bit of work I think...
Thats amazing - and also quite scary - that Cillit Bang is that powerful....
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Never mix it with bleach. The reasultant fumes will quite literally knock you out.
You won't have a sense of smell for 2 days either.
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Never mix it with bleach. The reasultant fumes will quite literally knock you out.
You won't have a sense of smell for 2 days either.
My school boy chemistry brain is interested - whats the gas released?
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I thought that I had found potentially the most potent cleaning fluid ever the other day in Holts Tar Remover (http://tinyurl.com/lpae6v) - the way that it removed the sticker residue off the van was quite frightening but nowhere near as frightening as the way that it ate through the fingers of latex gloves in double quick fashion. Thank god I never thought of Cillit Bang - I would probably be lacking a limb or two now. :o
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Never mix it with bleach. The reasultant fumes will quite literally knock you out.
You won't have a sense of smell for 2 days either.
My school boy chemistry brain is interested - whats the gas released?
By the time I came round the gas had dissipated and I'm not eager to repeat the experiment. Got the bin clean though.
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I thought that I had found potentially the most potent cleaning fluid ever the other day in Holts Tar Remover (http://tinyurl.com/lpae6v) - the way that it removed the sticker residue off the van was quite frightening but nowhere near as frightening as the way that it ate through the fingers of latex gloves in double quick fashion. Thank god I never thought of Cillit Bang - I would probably be lacking a limb or two now. :o
eek - eating through the gloves is unusual! WD40 is surprisingly good at getting rid of sticker goop....
I wonder if Cillit Bang would work on the odours in my rock boots... :-\
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Toxic Wast no worries, rock boot goop, lets be realistic about the limitations!
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changes afoot for wikipediaphiles (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8220220.stm)
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Solicitor fails to understand basics of year one criminal law. :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/25/police-remove-items-unlocked-cars (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/25/police-remove-items-unlocked-cars)
Note, for theft to be committed there needs to be disohnesty an intention to permanently deprive the owner of their property, taking gear and giving it to the rozzers for safe keeping with a note explaining that, probably doesn't look dishonest or indeed that you're trying to permanently deprive them of their stuff.
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Solicitor fails to understand basics of year one criminal law. :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/25/police-remove-items-unlocked-cars (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/25/police-remove-items-unlocked-cars)
Note, for theft to be committed there needs to be disohnesty an intention to permanently deprive the owner of their property, taking gear and giving it to the rozzers for safe keeping with a note explaining that, probably doesn't look dishonest or indeed that you're trying to permanently deprive them of their stuff.
That's fair enough but aside from it being a fucking retarded idea isn't there a danger that someone could claim they had 1 million cash in the glove box that the police conveniently forgot to declare on the list of items they removed for safe keeping?
What other genius ideas do Richmond council have planned I wonder? Aggravated assault if you're seen walking around holding a mobile, GBH if you're caught staggering home from the pub pissed?
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Of course they could, they could claim that they were fucking Lord Lucan (a deluded necrophilliac, more common than you'd think) for all the good it would do them.
Personally I think it's a great idea, being a completely absent minded fuckwit I once left my car door open with the keys in the ignition and lots of goodies loose in the car. This was at fucking Stanage and I only realised when walking down from the crag.
The old bill had been around checking cars and leaving a report on the back of one of the 'no valuables left in the car' with a mobile phone number and a message to ring answer a security question to be told where he'd hidden the keys. he'd stuffed the valuables into the spare tyre area and made the car look as if it was empty before securing it. Top Policing and I was most grateful.
This is exactly what policing is about and the stupid cvnts who complain about initiatives like this deserve to be robbed.
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Solicitor fails to understand basics of year one criminal law. :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/25/police-remove-items-unlocked-cars (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/25/police-remove-items-unlocked-cars)
Note, for theft to be committed there needs to be disohnesty an intention to permanently deprive the owner of their property, taking gear and giving it to the rozzers for safe keeping with a note explaining that, probably doesn't look dishonest or indeed that you're trying to permanently deprive them of their stuff.
Just how far into that article did you get before exploding into apoplectic rage and posting here?
"The way for the police to encourage the law to be kept, is not to engage in something that verges on lawbreaking," she said. "If this was done by a private person they would undoubtedly be prosecuted for theft."
"Christian said the law governing theft means that apart from taking someone else's goods, a person must intend to permanently deprive them of it to be found guilty of theft."
I see no great misunderstanding here.
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I read the whole thing and the quote "If this was done by a private person they would undoubtedly be prosecuted for theft." which is fucking bollocks, that she might have gone on to explain some of the basic tenets of the law of theft to the journo (read unpaid hooray henry intern) is missing the point.
It is a direct quote and it's shite.
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Of course they could, they could claim that they were fucking Lord Lucan (a deluded necrophilliac, more common than you'd think) for all the good it would do them.
Personally I think it's a great idea, being a completely absent minded fuckwit I once left my car door open with the keys in the ignition and lots of goodies loose in the car. This was at fucking Stanage and I only realised when walking down from the crag.
The old bill had been around checking cars and leaving a report on the back of one of the 'no valuables left in the car' with a mobile phone number and a message to ring answer a security question to be told where he'd hidden the keys. he'd stuffed the valuables into the spare tyre area and made the car look as if it was empty before securing it. Top Policing and I was most grateful.
This is exactly what policing is about and the stupid cvnts who complain about initiatives like this deserve to be robbed.
Surely it's the stupid 'cvnts' who leave their valuables on display who deserve to be robbed?
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I'm a Midlander, get me out of here........
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/03/20/traffic460.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/25/midlands-survey-population-broadband-access)
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Of course they could, they could claim that they were fucking Lord Lucan (a deluded necrophilliac, more common than you'd think) for all the good it would do them.
Personally I think it's a great idea, being a completely absent minded fuckwit I once left my car door open with the keys in the ignition and lots of goodies loose in the car. This was at fucking Stanage and I only realised when walking down from the crag.
The old bill had been around checking cars and leaving a report on the back of one of the 'no valuables left in the car' with a mobile phone number and a message to ring answer a security question to be told where he'd hidden the keys. he'd stuffed the valuables into the spare tyre area and made the car look as if it was empty before securing it. Top Policing and I was most grateful.
This is exactly what policing is about and the stupid cvnts who complain about initiatives like this deserve to be robbed.
Surely it's the stupid 'cvnts' who leave their valuables on display who deserve to be robbed?
And women wearing short skirts while drunk deserve to be raped? :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
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I had an interesting experience concerning "theft" the other week.
Some scrote was wandering through our back garden at 02:00 and my wife saw him hoping over the fence into next doors and back before she disturbed him by turning the lights on.
Next morning apart from my hose-pipe reel managing to walk the length of the garden it appeared that he'd dropped a crow bar in the neighbours back garden and after I spoke to them to say that some low-life scum had been snooping around and dropped said crow-bar in the garden I offered to take the crow-bar and contact the police to see if they'd be interested in dusting for prints or some such nonsense (turns out it was a waste of time pursuing that line since it had rained and washed any off).
Anyway, after that the lady on the phone then asked me to take the crow-bar to the station. I explained that since they weren't going to do anything with it I couldn't be bothered to waste my time going out of my way to take it down there.
She then informed me that "technically" that was considered to be theft!!! And then went on to explain that any item you find in the street should be handed in to the police and to keep it was also considered theft!!!
She reiterated that I should take the crow-bar in but I explained (again) that I wasn't going to waste my time 'cause some stupid thieving little shit had been somewhere that they shouldn't have been and dropped something. Further if they had someone coming in asking for a lost crow-bar then they could contact me for its return!!!
I find this a ridiculous situation, although its quite likely that the woman was talking out of her arse.
Whatever happened to "Possession is 9/10ths of the law" ? (Although obviously thats not the most legally robust phrase and is likely bullshit anyway).
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There's an offence which is commonly known as theft by finding, for example if you find a lottery ticket on the floor and having found out that it's a winning ticket just decide to cash it in then that's theft of the ticket and fraud to obtain the prize.
Title of lost / discarded property can pass but it's a fairly unclear area of law.
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Ahhh, good news.... Big Brother has been chopped (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/aug/26/big-brother-dropped-channel-4) :lol:
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There's an offence which is commonly known as theft by finding, for example if you find a lottery ticket on the floor and having found out that it's a winning ticket just decide to cash it in then that's theft of the ticket and fraud to obtain the prize.
Title of lost / discarded property can pass but it's a fairly unclear area of law.
Why should the value of the ticket (i.e. whether its won or not) influence the ownership, surely the principle as to who owns a ticket or any other item found in the street (or on my property when they shouldn't have been there) should transcend this facet?
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I'm un-PC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221896.stm) :lol:
Great news there tomtom, about time too.
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Why should the value of the ticket (i.e. whether its won or not) influence the ownership, surely the principle as to who owns a ticket or any other item found in the street (or on my property when they shouldn't have been there) should transcend this facet?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8001796.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8001796.stm)
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Surprised they are even bothering with another series of BB in 2010. I don't know anyone who gives a rat's ass about it anymore, even the daft lasses in the office are bored with it.
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Surprised they are even bothering with another series of BB in 2010. I don't know anyone who gives a rat's ass about it anymore, even the daft lasses in the office are bored with it.
Yup - couldnt find the piece, but there was an article a few weeks ago where they were saying the big factor was that the Star & Sun were not carrying any BB headlines - it had dropped below a public interest threshold. Good thing too...
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/video/player.htm?maven_playerId=immersiveproduction&maven_referralPlaylistId=2099847ae09d7376bc77375c17a6e7bead6b6816&maven_referralObject=1214814014#mainviewer (http://www.usatoday.com/news/video/player.htm?maven_playerId=immersiveproduction&maven_referralPlaylistId=2099847ae09d7376bc77375c17a6e7bead6b6816&maven_referralObject=1214814014#mainviewer)
No comment necessary. Ignore the shit ad at the start, obviously...........
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Why should the value of the ticket (i.e. whether its won or not) influence the ownership, surely the principle as to who owns a ticket or any other item found in the street (or on my property when they shouldn't have been there) should transcend this facet?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8001796.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8001796.stm)
Yes I'm aware of that case, but if the law is stating that something found in the street and should be handed in and returned to the owner then it doesn't matter whether it won £10 or £1000000. Laws (in my idealistic little world) should be unambiguous ( :lol: ) and the value of the found item should be irrelevant as to how its treated.
Someone else needs to go back to Law School (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8220274.stm)
I'd be interested to know how they are identifying all these unlocked cars, just sauntering down the street trying the door handles as they go? Most new cars (and lets be honest its Richmond in London so there aren't going to be many bangers) have central locking and the locks on the inside are either very hard to see or non-existant. Basically theres no visual indication on most cars that they are unlocked, so are bobbies just wandering around trying to get into cars?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8220274.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8220274.stm)
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Surprised they are even bothering with another series of BB in 2010. I don't know anyone who gives a rat's ass about it anymore, even the daft lasses in the office are bored with it.
However, Big Brother is unlikely to disappear from UK TV screens, with another broadcaster expected to step in to pick up the rights from Endemol.
Gutted
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Seems its not just cars (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8222004.stm) that the police are checking.
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Just in case part of you (even a little part) thought that Daniel Hannan isnt a cock, read this... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/26/conservative-daniel-hannan-enoch-powell)
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Wonder what Cameron will say.
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People who snore are just being shits, say Docs (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/people-who-snore-are-just-being-shits%2c-say-docs-200908191996/)
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What do you actually know of Enoch Powell's politics other than the infamous 'rivers of blood' speech? Precious little it would seem
Enoch Powell was a great intellect, and many of his views as per democracy would be more associated with the centre left than the far right, he was against the continuation of the empire against the inheirited political influence prevalent at the time in the Tory party, he was against the moral relativism which was used to justify British attrocities in Kenya
As for his views on immigration, I fundamentally disagree with them but can understand how he reached them given the American experience. Enoch Powell was not however a racist and decried the NF and their policies.
Now there'll be another bandwagon to jump on in a moment.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6_eE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6_eE)
I'm not a racist but....
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Absolutely, much easier to avoid the facts and dodge the issue.
Powell was wrong on immigration and his views are routinely presented as evidence as him being a racist, indeed this interpretation is not wholly wrong; one however should take this 'evidence' and weigh it against the larger corpus of evidence before reaching a conclusion.
One should also take account of the period in which the reference was made, it would be quite wrong to view a 1960 quote through the lense of 2009 standards; take for example Shakespeare's portrayal of jews, or of Dicken's stereotyping.
Powell is a hate figure of the left for a number of reasons, but let's not forget that one of the reasons that he was ostraised by the Tories was that he exhorted people to vote Labour because they were anti Europe as opposed to Grocer's pro common market stance.
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Context is important Sloper, so let me give you some. I lived through the Powell era and I remember how his pronouncements were pounced upon and repeated by racists. Lots of my classmates saw him as a hero and weren't above taking the most extreme measures to show their support. The oft repeated line that Enoch Powell was a man of intellect damns him in my eyes. He should have realised the effect his words would have. To suggest that his views could be excused because of the era is to suggest that the sixties and seventies were the dark ages. Mate, that's bunk. We knew what was racist and we knew a racist when we saw one.
Powell gave succour to the scum for whom beating someone because of the colour of their skin was an evenings entertainment. Who gives a shit about his intellect?
jh
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I'm not disputing that the speech gave succour to the racist thugs or that their interpretation was wholly wrong, and I'm not seeking to create a revisionist text: he expressed a view that mass immigration was a bad thing and that based on the information he chose to consider that multi culturalism would never work. I take a very different view, but the evidential base, eg the US which had a history which in the 50's we did not was a valid one.
However with the greatest respect, the thrust of your argument and your logic is massively flawed. If one's words are used by another for a purpose other than intended then one bears no responsibility for that.
Yes Powell should have foreseen that his words could have been used by violent racists, that is undoubtably true however this is not reason enough to define him as a racist for the evidence that Powell was a racist is dwarfed by the evidence to the contrary.
By your logic Gordon Brown; for using the phrase 'British jobs for British workers' is a racist supporter of the BNP. This is of course fucking nonsense.
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Thing is though, Hannan knows that the generally held public perception is that Enoch Powell was a racist. Whether or not that was the case is secondary to the fact that by saying he was a central figure in shaping his politics, Hannan is either being very stupid by thinking that people will look any further than the generally held public perception or perhaps being very stupid by knowingly showing allegiance to someone who the public thinks of as racist because he's trying to build popularity with the BNP / UKIP sympathisers. Whatever, he's just a cunt.
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Hanan's main political objective is to advance his image as a politician.
As for your last point, I think you could be right, but then again I don't know much about his views.
Hanan is as mainstream Tory as Denis Skinner is mainstream Labour.
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I think you're partly missing the point of Johns post Sloper,
Its about who listens to what you say and what they do in reaction to it - how influential it is...
However with the greatest respect, the thrust of your argument and your logic is massively flawed. If one's words are used by another for a purpose other than intended then one bears no responsibility for that.
If you are trying to lead/change the country then of course you have to be responsible for what you say - because people will act upon it. With the power comes responsibility.....
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I'm not missing the point of it at all, I know exactly what John is seeking to suggest, it's the shite old reductive syllogism
The NF were racists who used Enoch's speach to justify their actions,
Therefore Powell was a racist
Because Powell was a Tory, Tories are racist.
Of course with power comes responsibility, more so with the press than the politician (which is of course the source of the phrase) and Powell should have been aware of the likely consequences; in terms of how the morons might / would interpret his speech. That is a point only an idiot would try to deny.
I hold Gordon Brown in utter contempt as a politician, I do not know him but I would assume that he has decent morals and mores and is fundamentally opposed to racism and racists, how then can he use the phrase that he did?
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I'm drawing a line under this now...... or its destined for the shitheap.... (ah new thread materialised here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,12391.0.html)).. back to DaNews
Pissed up twat... (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2608998/Boozed-up-student-Laura-Tapping-impales-arm-feels-no-pain.html)
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Now, I'm as filthy minded as the next man but I struggle to see how these (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209383/Not-sweet-Fathers-outrage-pr0nographic-candy-wrappers.html) could give anyone wood.....
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It's worse than that they're clearly displaying a sapphic threesome
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As it's The Mail it's difficult to tell whether some of the comments are serious or not. Either way they're fucking funny.
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He said: 'I demanded to see the shop manager and, during a heated exchange, my wife became quite distressed and had to sit down in the car park.'
I would LOVE to have been that shop manager........
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As someone said on the comments, she probably went outside to get away from her complete tool of a husband who was embarrassing her and the kids beyond comprehension.
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Indeed, probably hoping somone would drive over her head in a Humvee as she sat in the middle of the carpark.
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Imagine what his outrage will be when he finds out that the lemon is also a man.
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Cup of tea? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8226473.stm)
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whats he ever done at the Tor? fuck all. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8231076.stm#id8230000/8231200/8231220)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2009/sep/01/express-ant-dec-headline-error (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2009/sep/01/express-ant-dec-headline-error)
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That's going to sting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8231007.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8231007.stm)
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yeeeeeeurg.
Guess he had rope wrapped around his hand while he was getting towed and then fell off. Silly thing to do, somethign they warn you about in waterskiing/wakeboarding 101.
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http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1381716?UserKey= (http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1381716?UserKey=)
Aberdeen gets floods. Worst rain in a long time, and lets face it, competition is fierce.
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Now, I'm as filthy minded as the next man but I struggle to see how these (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209383/Not-sweet-Fathers-outrage-pr0nographic-candy-wrappers.html) could give anyone wood.....
OHHH GOD NGHNNNNN FUCK FUCK YEAH YEAH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.
All of a sudden I feel relieved and yet slightly ashamed.
Brilliant link, but a NSFW warning would have helped Jern.
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I bet this is a barrel of laughs (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8236773.stm)
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One bus company owner has threatened to set his vehicles alight in protest.
slightly counterproductive?? :o
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Nothing like a bit of statistical spin (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/04/sabip_7m_stat_sponsored_by_bpi/)
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I love stuff like this. Like the government guidelines on drinking where the "safe limits" were just plucked from thin air after the doctor in charge of setting the limits told the ministers it was impossible to do so.
The Mrs says I only quote statistics that back up my opinions. Well of course! Every other cunt does too and every statistic can be massaged to fit with what you want it to prove.
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I love stuff like this. Like the government guidelines on drinking where the "safe limits" were just plucked from thin air after the doctor in charge of setting the limits told the ministers it was impossible to do so.
The Mrs says I only quote statistics that back up my opinions. Well of course! Every other cunt does too and every statistic can be massaged to fit with what you want it to prove.
And the five a day....
Climate change is a good one for this, because no one knows what the f*ck is going to happen - so I'm in meetings all the time where I'm asked how much extra should we factor in etc..! How do I know! The EA just wack and extra 20% on the height of their flood defences to cover it... god knows where they got that figure from... :)
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Not sure if this should go here or in room 101... but Wogans going from R2 breakfast. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8241101.stm#id8240000/8241100/8241186-audio)
Thank god. I never listen to R2 - but on the rare times I'm forced to (in someones car/house where its on) I'm left thinking would rather eat the popes rotting cock than listen to that c*nt.
(on a Wogan aside, his autobiography was the worst book I have ever read - by a long shot. The wanker even writes like he talks. F*cking ringpiece)
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I can't stand Wogan either. Had you had a knock to the head when you decided that his book might be a good read?
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The Mrs says I only quote statistics that back up my opinions. Well of course! Every other cunt does too and every statistic can be massaged to fit with what you want it to prove.
9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.
On the subject of wogan, i'm sure its one of those emperor's new clobber scenarios. I.e. we're so well conditioned to accept him as a hallowed british institution that no-one dare admit they think he's just someone who's barely entertaining with a smug voice.
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Never got the Wogan thing either. It would really wind me up when I'd get told that he was the best thing about the eurovision song contest. Like that's some form of endorsement.
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On the subject of wogan, i'm sure its one of those emperor's new clobber scenarios. I.e. we're so well conditioned to accept him as a hallowed british institution that no-one dare admit they think he's just someone who's barely entertaining with a smug voice.
I'll admit it, he's a smug, condescending, misogynistic, fat boring arsehole. Listening to his breakfast show is like having an aural prolapse.
Jasper - yes I read his book. I was not well. It was an xmas gift, and was stuck at my folks house over Xmas in the process of being remotely dumped by the then GF, could not sleep and it was the only thing to hand to read to try and take my mind off things. Which it did in a 'how can this be so shit' kind of rage. Despite my emotionally derranged state I managed to bail out at page 30. So in a way I had received a knock on the head.
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:lol:
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Drunken Master Style (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/07/drunk_grandmaster/) :lol:
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Drunken Master Style (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/07/drunk_grandmaster/) :lol:
unfortunately, his World Chess Beauty site (http://www.1wcbc.com/) is showing nothing, but there's some of the "contestants" shown here (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2208)
quite frankly, I think it's terrible that anyone would be interested in judging these talented women in this way
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That's ridiculous. Some of those birds aren't even playing chess in the photos.
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At last, someone beats McDonalds (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8243270.stm) :)
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Indeed McCunts have finally lost.
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still looks like a bloke no matter how much makeup (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8243553.stm)
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Will would.
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Will Will with wood, well would he?
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Will Will with wood, well would he?
Wildo's - V.informative (well worth a watch)
Jildos Podcast # 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEWVBpAV3BI#)
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Me and a mate just spent 7 happy minutes laughing hysterically in between wanks.
Dishwasher safe!
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Dopey fucking scallies (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8244700.stm#id8240000/8244700/8244794-audio) :wall: :wall: :wall:
However, far worse than that are the bottom feeding scum who continue to trade in arms (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8245356.stm) complete and utter shit bags. Lowest of the low. Not even worthy of being included in the genus Homo sapiens. I highly recommend reading...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UIUQlPyGL.jpg) (http://astore.amazon.co.uk/markthomasinf-21/detail/0091909228)
...for an insight into how these arse holes flout the rules (although to be fair they get a massive helping hand from the wankers in government :wank:).
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no shit sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8244600.stm#id8240000/8244800/8244860)
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so you think your broadband is slow? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8248056.stm)
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Brilliant.
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More healthcare fuckwittery from our friends across the pond.....
http://flash.sharpnews.info/?p=215 (http://flash.sharpnews.info/?p=215)
:wall:
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Has this been posted yet?? Which one of you freaks was it then?? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6165874/Muck-lover-jailed-for-sex-act.html)
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I guess Stallion won't be at the opening of phase 2 of the Depot tomorrow night after all...
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How can this not be a crime?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/11/mg-rover-report-phoenix-four (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/11/mg-rover-report-phoenix-four)
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Who's a pretty boy? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/11/disgruntled_parrot/)
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poor lass/lad (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8249948.stm#id8250000/8250200/8250249-audio)
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poor lass/lad (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8249948.stm#id8250000/8250200/8250249-audio)
It's not been handled well has it.
(As wrong as it is, I just can't get the "Oh you sexy hermaphrodite lady-man-ladies, With your sexy lady bits and your sexy man bits too, Even you must be in to you ooo ooo" out of my head.)
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I'm talking sweet 16s not F16s.
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When will the governments realize it's got to be funky sexy ladies.
(I'll stop now)
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Not 100% sure that it belongs here but it will have to do - funniest Google Suggestions (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/6161567/The-20-funniest-suggestions-from-Google-Suggest.html).
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8252095.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8252095.stm)
Even without seeing the show I suspect the reviewer may have had a point. Mind you, if Chris de Burgh is still out there performing I feel a visit to the room 101 thread coming up!
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/14/charlie-brooker-damien-hirst (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/14/charlie-brooker-damien-hirst)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8252095.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8252095.stm)
Even without seeing the show I suspect the reviewer may have had a point. Mind you, if Chris de Burgh is still out there performing I feel a visit to the room 101 thread coming up!
there was a clip on the LNOTP show this weekend of CdB "performing" a cover of a Beatles track(long and winding road, was it?). Was utter shite. he performs with the emotion of a the terminator, and sings out of key. TWAT.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/14/charlie-brooker-damien-hirst (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/14/charlie-brooker-damien-hirst)
read that earlier - dynamite.
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I like that song - "the Lady in red is giving me head" though.
If you thought your broadband was slow;
SA pigeon 'faster than broadband' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8248056.stm#id8240000/8249200/8249294)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8254894.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8254894.stm)
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Very useful sounding web page..http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8253915.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8253915.stm)
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Interesting. Worth posting seperately.
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Interesting. Worth posting seperately.
Done: http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,12528.0.html (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,12528.0.html)
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this should be hilarious (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8255610.stm) - i hear they're going to have to ship in some actors.
"whatsgoinon?"
"savvacuppatea"
"its bang ow'avowda"
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Oh no I'm going to die (again)! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8254206.stm)
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US film star Patrick Swayze dies (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8256033.stm#id8250000/8256000/8256039)
You reckon Demijohn Moore is staying away from pottery classes, just in case?
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NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8255418.stm#id8250000/8254800/8254872-audio)
I remember a tv programme about similar trials being a resounding success about ten years ago but nothing was done about it. It's not exactly complicated is it.
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Flip-out (http://fastflip.googlelabs.com/)
New service from Google (actually called FastFlip) that aggregates and presents news pages very quickly, pretty good. :thumbsup:
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NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8255418.stm#id8250000/8254800/8254872-audio)
I remember a tv programme about similar trials being a resounding success about ten years ago but nothing was done about it. It's not exactly complicated is it.
much as I'm down with reducing crime and taking money out of the hands of dealers, does it not wiff a bit of a load of rattling skeletors saying "give us free gear or we rob your shit"? On a similar theme I recon we could cut drink-driving in half by taking pissheads out to government-run pubs, pouring a skinfull of free medical-quality ale down their necks and paying for their taxi home. Where's the incentive not to become a piss/crack/skag head (delete as applicable) in the first place?
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Where's the incentive not to become a piss/crack/skag head (delete as applicable) in the first place?
Where's the incentive in the first place?
I doubt most people sit down and make a rational decision and choose to become addicted to whatever drug they happen to be addicted to.
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NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8255418.stm#id8250000/8254800/8254872-audio)
I remember a tv programme about similar trials being a resounding success about ten years ago but nothing was done about it. It's not exactly complicated is it.
much as I'm down with reducing crime and taking money out of the hands of dealers, does it not wiff a bit of a load of rattling skeletors saying "give us free gear or we rob your shit"? On a similar theme I recon we could cut drink-driving in half by taking pissheads out to government-run pubs, pouring a skinfull of free medical-quality ale down their necks and paying for their taxi home. Where's the incentive not to become a piss/crack/skag head (delete as applicable) in the first place?
Not quite the same... if you made alcohol illegal then it would be a more similar situation. Then would you get an increase in crime driven by people trying to get booze/trading in booze/getting the extra money to get booze as it was 10 times the price?? Prohibition?
That scheme cost £15000 a year per participant.
It costs (IIRC) £2500 a week to keep someone in HMP.
Police estimate that 30-50% of crime is drug related.
:shrug:
We (taxpayers) spend a fortune picking up the tab for other 'self inflicted' conditions - such as obesity, heart disease, alcohol related diseases etc.. etc.. etc.. so the 'why should be pay to treat someone who's an addict' approach doesnt wash with me either.. (I know thats not that you were saying that Dave.. I just wanted to say it..)
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Have you been reading the Daily Mail dave? ;)
Do you really think you're going to encourage more people to start abusing drugs because there's a better treatment programme for them should they become addicted? I can't imagine there are many people who sit down and make that decision so logically!
Research suggests that between half and two-thirds of all crime in the UK is drug-related.
The costs (both financial and on so many other levels) of the way "the drugs problem" has been mishandled are fucking immense. The cost of this type of project is miniscule in comparison and it's the only logical way of tackling the problem that's been tried (more than once!) and shown to have a massively positive effect.
I don't really give a fuck if it's handing out drugs to scumbags. If it cuts crime, saves money and generally improves society then it's a good thing in my book.
EDIT - Beaten to all those points by slackers / tomtom
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UK's largest arms manufacturer to downsize (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8256404.stm) :thumbsup:
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This will only affect the workforce, not the Company, as usual.
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Sssh, don't burst my ignorant bubble of bliss!
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Government quick to appease Daily Mail readers. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/sep/15/heroin-addicts-treatment-trial)
Unbelievable yet so predictable. :wall:
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Equal Rights (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8256302.stm)
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bastards - could they not have brought this in 8 months ago?
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I thought the whole thing had been binned?
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Does this mean that mothers and fathers have equal rights to share 12 months of free Heroin and drugs conselling? Or am I getting my stories mixed up. :shrug:
I dunno, what is it with bloody focus group politics - nothing ever gets decided - its always the path of least resistance with any policy that looks like it might actually do something! :wall:
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Have you been reading the Daily Mail dave? ;)
Sorry, its just irks me when like a mug i'm having to go out and pay for my own skag.
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Well that's the disadvantage in being an honest hardworking smackhead. You get nothing in this country if you don't play the system.
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Hey Sloper!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/16/mcmillan-scott-expelled-tories-mep (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/16/mcmillan-scott-expelled-tories-mep)
What do reckon to your pals trying to cover up the fact that they're siding with far right scum in Europe?
:-\
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Shop worker 'licked food on sale' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8257647.stm#id8250000/8258800/8258828)
This is a very special member of staff I'd love to work with.
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Someone I used to go to school with had a job at the local Sainsbury's and told us that they used to play football with frozen chickens/turkeys all the time. Advised my parents to shop at Safeways, but it wouldn't surprise me if such things happen all the time across the nation.
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Aye it's bound to be universal isn't it. I just love his mode of retaliation:
"The former shop worker is alleged to have returned to the store in 2009 after leaving Asda's employment.
He stamps on chickens on display before tearing off the wrapping, licking a chicken and replacing it on the shelf."
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Hey Sloper!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/16/mcmillan-scott-expelled-tories-mep (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/16/mcmillan-scott-expelled-tories-mep)
What do reckon to your pals trying to cover up the fact that they're siding with far right scum in Europe?
:-\
I think they're being a bunch of stupid cvnts.
I know politics is a dirty game but their approach is deeply unpleasant.
I still regard a Tory government as the least worst option.
Anyway, politics, yawn, we're bored etc ;)
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This is a very special member of staff I'd love to work with.
Just watched the video on YouthLube. The bloke does seem like a complete tosser.
Also interesting to note that some racist front bottoms have jumped on the fact that he's not a red necked aryan.
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Just searched for the youtube video. What a tool. I thought initially the image of a man meekly licking a raw chicken was funny but it didn't correlate with my version.
Asda worker's sick video - Adeel Ayub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_obFlVxzPY#noexternalembed)
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[noembed]i'm not taking any shit about lanking problems any more. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8259728.stm)[/noembed]
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[noembed]i'm not taking any shit about lanking problems any more. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8259728.stm)[/noembed]
Can't be too many people with this problem
The first thing I want to do is have a car that I can fit in
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[noembed]i'm not taking any shit about lanking problems any more. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8259728.stm)[/noembed]
Bet he would struggle on sitters though. I won't moan about legroom on a plane again either!
All he needs is a normal sized car with the front seat removed so he can sit in the back, as per Hightower in Police Academy (can't remember which one).
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When do we get to see a picture of him next to Ping-ping?
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[noembed]i'm not taking any shit about lanking problems any more. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8259728.stm)[/noembed]
Bet he would struggle on sitters though. I won't moan about legroom on a plane again either!
All he needs is a normal sized car with the front seat removed so he can sit in the back, as per Hightower in Police Academy (can't remember which one).
Try finding rock boots to fit someone with 16" feet!
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Thats what you get for liking it dirty (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/couple_robbed_while_having_sex_in_eUXDE8kNnI5tIPODcOmeZL)
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They should have called me. I'd have happily chipped in... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8261287.stm)
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They should have called me. I'd have happily chipped in... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8261287.stm)
What a waste-of-time media stunt :wank:
All they've done is give Clarkson some fresh fertiliser.
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This should probably be the starting point for a people with unfortunate names thread, but anyway - from the obituaries in yesterdays Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/16/1 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/16/1)
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And a candidate for starting a classic acronyms thread, I give you http://www.baaps.org.uk/ (http://www.baaps.org.uk/)
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And a candidate for starting a classic acronyms thread, I give you http://www.baaps.org.uk/ (http://www.baaps.org.uk/)
Its an urban myth, but Newcastle Poly was very nearly renamed the Central University for Newcastle upon Tyne.. (apparently it got as far as designing the logo before someone realised)
and, on the unfortunate names, wasnt there a sketch on 'Not the nine o clock news' featuring Arthur Penis, the unluckiest man in the world...
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This should probably be the starting point for a people with unfortunate names thread, but anyway - from the obituaries in yesterdays Guardian.
I actually know a Euan Kerr! Kid you not, surfing mate.
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This should probably be the starting point for a people with unfortunate names thread, but anyway - from the obituaries in yesterdays Guardian.
I actually know a Euan Kerr! Kid you not, surfing mate.
Sophie Bey Mycock (say it fast)
and a friends mum was Franny Wacker...
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Back on topic, heres an [urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8260498.stm]unusal get-up for a funeral[/url]
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/813/813613/8136130/jpg/active/960x.jpg)
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poor embedding skills. quite a moving story though.
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quite a moving story though.
Yes. Good on him.
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A moving story and a depressing one. Young lads dying for no reason.
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poor embedding skills.
Thats what I get for typing my BBcode instead of using the handy buttons that get it right for you.
quite a moving story though.
Moving yes, but also avoidable. Fighting/war solves little but creates unnecessary pain and suffering.
:devangel:
Just to balance that heartfelt sentiment out though the individual chose to enlist in the army.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/jedi-religion-tesco-hood-jones (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/jedi-religion-tesco-hood-jones)
For once, some amusing comments at the end.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/jedi-religion-tesco-hood-jones (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/jedi-religion-tesco-hood-jones)
For once, some amusing comments at the end.
That is absolutely brilliant, hope he fights Tescos on this one ;D
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/jedi-religion-tesco-hood-jones (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/jedi-religion-tesco-hood-jones)
For once, some amusing comments at the end.
Quality. See, theres mileage in the Cult of Lagers.....
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X-Files meets Fast show http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/20980556/detail.html (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/20980556/detail.html)
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Sony Kapoor is the Managing Director of Re-Define (Rethinking Development, Finance & Environment), an international Think Tank promoting financial system reform. A prominent expert on international finance and development, he started his career in investment banking and derivative trading. In 2003 he quit to work on reforming the financial system and promoting international development. Kapoor has been a leading advocate for debt cancellation, action against tax havens, and promoting innovative sources of financing. He is a key adviser to several governments, international agencies, political parties, unions, and NGOs on helping shape a more progressive society. Kapoor has worked in a policy advisory and strategy consulting capacity for international organizations such as the World Bank, UN, and UNDP, international NGOs such as Oxfam, and Christian Aid, financial institutions such as the Industrial Credit and Investment Corporation of India, and Lehman Brothers, and governments including that of Norway. He has studied at the prestigious Indian Institute of Technology, University of Delhi and the London School of Economics.
Leaving Lehman, exposing Wall Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhzkju_g3rs&feature=player_embedded#ws)
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No shit Sherlock (http://www.itpro.co.uk/615247/microsoft-admits-vista-was-less-good).
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Interesting new service in Japan.... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/20/japan-relatives-professional-stand-ins)
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X-Files meets Fast show http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/20980556/detail.html (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/20980556/detail.html)
That's some wierd shit indeed. Someone showed me a link to that article on Saturday, and it's still bothering me.
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No shit Sherlock (http://www.itpro.co.uk/615247/microsoft-admits-vista-was-less-good).
:lol: Give it a couple of years and they'll be back-pedalling about Windows 7 too :P
Reminds me of the add campaign Apple ran when Windoze95 was released.
(http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/ads/magazines/windows/win95-apple/01.big.jpg)
(http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/ads/magazines/windows/win95-apple/02.big.jpg)
(http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/ads/magazines/windows/win95-apple/03.big.jpg)
(http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/ads/magazines/windows/win95-apple/04.big.jpg)
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The Irony (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8263110.stm) :lol:
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Do You Want to See My Cock? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/18/do_you_want/)
Sounds like a bit of a :wank:
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I can see the inscription on his headstone already:
Blest be the man that spares these stones,
And curst be he that moves my boners
A literary mastermind in the making.
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Good article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/20/elliott-delaney-funeral-dress-promise) about the "lad wearing the dress to the funeral" story slackers posted above.
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The end of an Era (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8269057.stm)
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Minister doesn't resign shock
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/22/lady-scotland-illegal-immigrant-brown (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/22/lady-scotland-illegal-immigrant-brown)
Note if this was any other minister (perhaps with the exception of Jack Straw) I wouldn't be calling for their head but the is the Govt's chief legal officer and was responsible for enacting the law she has broken.
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Weird shit indeed......
Woke up to the armageddon this morning.
(http://www.smh.com.au/environment/sydney-turns-red-dust-storm-blankets-city-20090923-g0so.html)
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Red Sails in the Sunset? (get the Oz reference?)
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Perhaps Tomtom could corroborate this one (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8270475.stm) :)
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Fucking disgraceful (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270772.stm)
Why the fuck should my grandparents who have no intention what so ever of getting a 'net connection have to pay for this, yet another poorly thought out plan.
Surely it would be far more sensible to levvy the tax on those who have an internet connection, be it wired or wireless (after all 99% of people will have a contract with their provider, there is only a small proportion of individuals who permanently piggy-back on others networks).
Probably time to ditch the home telephone line now anyway though :P
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Another HMG stealth tax to add to labour's hidden tax rises.
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Fucking disgraceful (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8270772.stm)
Surely it would be far more sensible to levvy the tax on those who have an internet connection, be it wired or wireless (after all 99% of people will have a contract with their provider, there is only a small proportion of individuals who permanently piggy-back on others networks).
Government in sensible idea shocker. ...... no it will never catch on
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Perhaps Tomtom could corroborate this one (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8270475.stm) :)
"Dr Kealey, a clinical bio-chemist and vice-chancellor of Buckingham University, likened the classroom to a lap dancing club and said admiring the curves of attractive students could help "spice up" marital sex."
Twat. What a stupid thing to write, now he's given away all of our secrets and perks ;) Seriously, the guys an ass.
Its a daft article really, needlessly sensationalising something thats quite obvious. If you have an attractive woman in a class you are teaching - of course you might notice her - may even look at her a few more times than the black clad spotty greasy haired smelly cretin asleep on the back row - thats natural. But acting on any urges is just daft really and hardly ever happens (to my knowledge). It is of course completely legal to have relationships between students and staff - and there are procedures in place so that if it happens the staff member has no position of authority over the student (e.g. marking or supervision) - that its declared...
To be honest somethings got to be pretty wrong if you participate in a student staff relationship as there are all sorts of issues of power and control entwined within it - something I would certainly not feel comfortable with.
You hear tales of blow jobs being offered for good marks - but theres probably a large element of urban myth about that. I personally know of one lecturer (not where I work) who started a relationship with a student the day after she graduated.. :-\
Students can also pursue the lecturers, sometimes quite aggressively... in a previous job I've had to push away a drunken student of mine who was moving in for..... I've had other students I'm not sure about, asking to see me lots of times, staring moon eyed over the desk at me. Then its just a matter of being sensible and keeping the office door open and a desk between!
There are of course many relationships that have come from postgraduate - staff mixes. Here the age gap is closer and postgrads (esp phd students) are pretty much the same as staff (share same coffee rooms, socialising, hours of work etc..) so these are kind of frowned upon - and you are not allowed to continue supervising your girl/boyfriend. Quite a large number of academics other halves are former PhD students who worked at the same place. Just for the record, Mrs TT is not a former student, postgrad or colleague. She cost me £2000 on the internet :)
Now, if anyone here wants to discuss any of these issues further with me, come up to my office and sit on my knee ;)
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But acting on any urges is just daft really and hardly ever happens (to my knowledge).
One of my current work colleagues has admitted to sleeping with one of her philosophy lecturers.
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But acting on any urges is just daft really and hardly ever happens (to my knowledge).
One of my current work colleagues has admitted to sleeping with one of her philosophy lecturers.
In many ways it can be fine - both parties are of age and consent etc.. but not for me. I guess some peoples moral compass points in a different direction...
My first lecturing job (99) involved moving into the office of a just retired academic. He reputedly had a caravan at a nearby seaside town specifically for the purpose of taking students there to screw. I heard that from several people so had no reason to doubt it.I get the impression alot more of it used to happen than does now...
It may well be different in different subjects. Most of my teaching is large classes, other degrees may have smaller tutorials more frequently within which I suppose there is more opportunity for the 'sap to rise'....
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In my final year at school, one of the guys managed to get it together with one of the student teachers there on placement. She was pretty hot, he was elevated to legend status.
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may even look at her a few more times than the black clad spotty greasy haired smelly cretin asleep on the back row - thats natural.
Holy crap were you lecturing geology at Leeds 11 years ago? ;D
There was a philosophy lecturer at Leeds who is/was notorious for hooking up with students, he was quite ugly, so must have been very smart!
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In my final year at school, one of the guys managed to get it together with one of the student teachers there on placement. She was pretty hot, he was elevated to legend status.
That's what I call a tick.
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Hey! Party round your house later on in the month Slackers?
(http://www.barbandgreg.com/images/Emoticons/djparty.gif)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/sep/23/windows-7-party (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/sep/23/windows-7-party)
(Though having read the page it'd probably be more like this!)
(http://www.barbandgreg.com/images/Emoticons/vpeople.gif)
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A Windows 7 party:
(http://www.soonet.ca/images/smilies/Smile/suicide.gif)
A Windows 7 party with them:
(http://www.soonet.ca/images/smilies/Smile/suicide.gif) (http://www.soonet.ca/images/smilies/Smile/suicide.gif)
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Funny but sadly true. (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/bankrupt-britain-forced-to-give-up-weapons-it-never-needed-200909232084/)
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Funny but sadly true. (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/bankrupt-britain-forced-to-give-up-weapons-it-never-needed-200909232084/)
But defence analyst Julian Cook insisted: "Britain's desire to be a big player on the world stage has delivered huge benefits including being dragged into a series of catastrophic wars with America's throbbing tumescence lodged firmly at the back of our throat, while at the same time being unable to afford decent roads, railways, schools and hospitals. It's what we call a 'win-win'.
Sad but true indeed.
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2 years for killing a man (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8270909.stm)
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That's disgraceful.
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Excellent - Sir Clive Sinclair couldnt do it with the C5 - the Segway was - erm - not really a huge success I guess, now Honda are having a go! Excellent video here. I assume as he is steering it no hands its either by balance or some sort of anal probe... Judging by the grin on his face its the latter!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/24/honda-u3x-unicycle (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/24/honda-u3x-unicycle)
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pressure on feet? Useful for fat and lazy to get between pie shops.
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Please, please, please let me deliver THIS equal opportunities training
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8273879.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8273879.stm)
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What I want to know is how a 30 stone bloke gets into a caravan
Rescue service's fight with obese (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/8273608.stm#id8270000/8273700/8273786)
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Excellent - Sir Clive Sinclair couldnt do it with the C5 - the Segway was - erm - not really a huge success I guess, now Honda are having a go!
That will revolutionise travel over linoleum or short pile carpet.
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Women gets pregnant while pregnant:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090925/twl-woman-falls-pregnant-while-already-p-3fd0ae9.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090925/twl-woman-falls-pregnant-while-already-p-3fd0ae9.html)
The bloke in the picture has an excellent 'I'm so virile I knocked her up while she was already up the duff' look on his face.
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Oh yes - he does indeed look really smug. Though for me that smugness evaporated in a nanosecond when my eyes move right to view his
tank wife!
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I'm surprised anyone would want to shag her more than once, guess some people like riding human ripple tanks.
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Women gets pregnant while pregnant:
Doctors suspect an extraordinarily uncommon situation called superfetation, which means conceiving when already pregnant
very fucking helpful ::)
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A heartwarming tale....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/sep/26/allen-stanford-prison-fight (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/sep/26/allen-stanford-prison-fight)
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Polanski finally collared for 70's underage dodginess. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8277176.stm)
Of course I suspect nothing will come of it but it's good to remind the old paedo of his wrong-doings.
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What shocks me most is that the Swizz Government has any regard at all for offences committed in another country; especially with regard to someone with loads of money.
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Careful you don't let anyone else look after your kids (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8277378.stm#id8270000/8278000/8278034-audio)
:shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall: :shrug: :wall:
Complete and utter nonsense.
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That whole thing is a total shambles.
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Killer Tits (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/28/killer_tits/) [SFW - honest]
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Blind one-legged man wins arse-kicking contest (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/25/cops_taser_piratical_assailant/) (couldn't think of a better alternative title than the one El Reg have used)
Hand over the Chihuahua or I'll shoot (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/28/chihuahua_deal/) :lol:
Time to enlist in the Swedish army (quickly) (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/23/swedish_military_bras/)
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Am I the only one who read this and thought Slackers had taken up ghost-writing??
;)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows)
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Am I the only one who read this and thought Slackers had taken up ghost-writing??
;)
No (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,12028.msg220851.html#msg220851) although I'm the creepy advocate of the "Other" operating systems :-[ :P
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(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/10/02/north_butt.gif) (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/02/north_butt/) <-- Clicky :lol:
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New brassiere (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8285380.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46479000/jpg/_46479640_diagramofbra.jpg)
Never overestimate (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8284941.stm) :lol:
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Right wingers shoot themselves in foot. (http://bit.ly/9YZNS)
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I can't make up my mind whether to laugh or cry about this... (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/02/iphone_calculator_censorship/)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8288396.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8288396.stm)
Hmmmm, stereotypes save time
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Holy shit, this guy was lucky... the stuff of nightmares...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2009/oct/05/bungee-accident-briton-thailand (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2009/oct/05/bungee-accident-briton-thailand)
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Yeek. "I thought you were going to tie the knot........"
When I did it it was over 5 foot of water, my shallow diving skills aint that hot.
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:o :o :o
Never fancied bungee jumping, thats just reinforced the sentiment.
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Unbemuthaf*ckinglievable... :wall:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/ammo_hoarding_sweeps_us/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/ammo_hoarding_sweeps_us/)
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Unbemuthaf*ckinglievable... :wall:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/ammo_hoarding_sweeps_us/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/ammo_hoarding_sweeps_us/)
Fuck it, let 'em all go and shoot each other and leave the world with a few less idiots.
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Royal Mail bullying over using public data* (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/06/royal_mail_ernest_marples_postcodes/)
* Being that postcodes are created and maintained using public funding we should be able to access and use this data as should companies such as the website listed.
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Molecular Genetics set to be revolutionised (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8291185.stm)
This will be amazing if it works as claimed :bow:
Don't be fooled (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8292299.stm) (and change your password now if you think you have already).
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Sounds like a nice chap. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/07/curtis-warren-guilty-drugs-offences-jersey) Good work there too. Ten years in prison, five weeks out, 14 years in...........
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god ain't no paramedic (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8294225.stm)
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god ain't no paramedic (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8294225.stm)
Six months is waaaay too short.
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In American terms it probably is, but then again remember the social construct within which the judge is sentencing.
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God bless America!
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Some real corkers here....
Twats get their comeuppance (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Cross-Dressing-Cage-Fighter-Video-Yobs-Floored-After-Attacking-Hard-Men-In-Drag/Article/200910115401084?lpos=UK_News_News_Your_Way_Region_8&lid=NewsYourWay_ARTICLE_15401084_Cross_Dressing_Cage_Fighter_Video%3A_Yobs_Floored_After_Attacking_Hard_Men_In_Drag) :thumbsup: :lol:
Pr0n Wars (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Police_step_in_to_stop_Darth_Vader_pr0n_movie&in_article_id=747831&in_page_id=34) (SFW, honest its on the Metro)
I Shit you Not (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Note_to_parents:_Children_must_bring_own_toilet_roll_to_school&in_article_id=749076&in_page_id=2)
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I love the blokes in drag dealing with the scum. Top effort boys.
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That's fucking class.
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Fuck, it's only a Vespa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8294241.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8294241.stm)
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Pr0n Wars (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Police_step_in_to_stop_Darth_Vader_pr0n_movie&in_article_id=747831&in_page_id=34) (SFW, honest its on the Metro)
Prowse, 74, from Bristol, is best known for playing Darth Vader in the Star Wars trilogy of the 1970s and 1980s
fuck Darth Vader, he was The Green Cross Code Man :bow:
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Some real corkers here....
Twats get their comeuppance (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Cross-Dressing-Cage-Fighter-Video-Yobs-Floored-After-Attacking-Hard-Men-In-Drag/Article/200910115401084?lpos=UK_News_News_Your_Way_Region_8&lid=NewsYourWay_ARTICLE_15401084_Cross_Dressing_Cage_Fighter_Video%3A_Yobs_Floored_After_Attacking_Hard_Men_In_Drag) :thumbsup: :lol:
Longer version of the cctv here. (http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/656841/8a54559a/even_twee_travestieten_in_elkaar_beuken.html)
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Berlusconi in the shit. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/07/silvio-berlusconi-immunity-law-uncontitutional) :)
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The obvious solution for Berlusconi now is to get rid of the constitution and install himself as dictator. Should be interesting.
Having passed the age of 70, however, the prime minister can no longer be jailed even if found guilty
:lol: and they'll probably give him a 50 year repayment plan for taxes owed, or deduct it at 5 euros a week from his state pension
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it amazes me that a prime minister facing all kinds of charges can bring in a law that gives himself immunity from prosecution - its that kind of shit you'd expect in a third world dictatorship in the middle ages not 21st century europe, fucking madness.
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Thanks to Stubbs for this (via Twitter)...
One gay man, two lesbians, a three-legged cat and a poisoned curry plot (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218880/One-gay-man-lesbians-legged-cat-poisoned-curry-plot.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0TLAwCXmO)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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it amazes me that a prime minister facing all kinds of charges can bring in a law that gives himself immunity from prosecution - its that kind of shit you'd expect in a third world dictatorship in the middle ages not 21st century europe, fucking madness.
Standard Italian practice.
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just the tip of the iceberg but its a start (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Women-fined-for-dropping-cigarette.5711240.jp)
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just the tip of the iceberg but its a start (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Women-fined-for-dropping-cigarette.5711240.jp)
Taken to its logical (albeit absurd) conclusion who will employ the thousands of street sweepers across the country when there is no litter to be picked up off the streets?
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they can be employed pollishing dogturds.
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just the tip of the iceberg but its a start (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Women-fined-for-dropping-cigarette.5711240.jp)
Taken to its logical (albeit absurd) conclusion who will employ the thousands of street sweepers across the country when there is no litter to be picked up off the streets?
Ever been to Singapore? no issues with litter or dropped chewing gum there...
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Yeah, but no one in Singapore has a life :P
I don't think litter or fag ends should be dropped though, especially when there are bins provided, but consider it less of an issue in towns where people are paid to clear it up than in the countryside where there is no one paid to clear up.
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Lecturers told to dress smart: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8292429.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8292429.stm)
Thank god I dont work there - I'd be f*cked...
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just the tip of the iceberg but its a start (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Women-fined-for-dropping-cigarette.5711240.jp)
Taken to its logical (albeit absurd) conclusion who will employ the thousands of street sweepers across the country when there is no litter to be picked up off the streets?
or employ thousands of sadists with big sticks and video cameras to name, shame and beat litter pigs and put beatings on youtube.
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KABOOM!!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8299118.stm#id8290000/8299100/8299152)
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Genuine 100% real beer tokens (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-best-gift-bar-none-beer-vouchers-1799959.html)
I'm waiting for the day I can take my pay in these ;D
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Nice graphical representation of the risk of having the HPV jab
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-safe-is-the-hpv-vaccine/ (http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-safe-is-the-hpv-vaccine/)
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Did you get that from Brooker's Tweet? Very good.
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Yeah, one of my favourite things about Twitter is the random stuff that gets RT'ed(and you whinging about Radio 1 ;) )
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:guilty:
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Clocked this as I follow Information is Beautiful (http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/) on twitter too.
Started following after I stumbled across The Billion Dollar Gram (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3272.msg216201.html#msg216201).
In a more lighthearted vein there is also the Hierarchy of Digital Distractions (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3272.msg217945.html#msg217945).
Jasper's anti-R1 rants are highly entertaining too :)
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Yeah legal hand-guns are a great idea! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8301755.stm#id8300000/8301700/8301755?ls)
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Lies, damn lies and er.......reports paid for by the insurance industry. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/12/health-insurance-industry-healtcare-reform)
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Read this. (http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/)
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Read this. (http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/)
:thumbsdown:
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Grauniad not rolling over. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-court-parliament-reporting-gag)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/oct/12/elinor-ostrom-nobel-prize-economics (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/oct/12/elinor-ostrom-nobel-prize-economics)
What have they put in the Nobel committee tea? Not from the Chicago school of market supremacy apologists, and she's a woman!
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The mayhem caused to the global economy by market fundamentalism made it unlikely that a member of the "unfettered markets are best" school would win this year. But it was significant that the judges chose someone whose work is relevant to debates about resource use and the future of the planet.
(http://i34.tinypic.com/sgtxyv.gif)
;)
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Yeah, but there's always next year eh!? Back to business as usual and some smug yank with yet another flawless theory about the infallibility of the markets will be annointed............ :thumbsdown:
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Prexactly.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-gagged-parliamentary-question (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-gagged-parliamentary-question)
:)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-gagged-parliamentary-question (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-gagged-parliamentary-question)
:)
:thumbsup:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/12/charlie-brooker (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/12/charlie-brooker)
Some great comments.......
George is the classic 40-year-old virgin - a Notting Hill Rodney (Trotter). You're probably right to think you know a bit more than him - his £3 billion taxation error says he's still working out how to use the calculator function on his Blackberry. In office he'll age 15 years in the first year and still wont have had a real shag.
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Lunacy :wall: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8305987.stm)
Brilliant invention :thumbsup: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/8305408.stm) really hope it gets out to places where medication needs to be kept cool as it has the potential to save lots of lives.
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It works by harnessing energy from the sun to cool medicines and other small items using evaporation.
If "small items" includes 6 packs, then she truly is a genius.
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It works by harnessing energy from the sun to cool medicines and other small items using evaporation.
If "small items" includes 6 packs, then she truly is a genius.
:lol:
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Brilliant invention :thumbsup: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/8305408.stm)
Wonder if this will make it into the Leeds Student newspaper. Last week they had a postgrad who seemed to have spent most of her time developing an equation for PNO, the Perfect Night Out ??? :thumbsdown:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/15/science/earth/15rabbit.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/15/science/earth/15rabbit.html) Awwww radioactive bunnie wunnies how cute :o
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http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/4588410.Pervert_got_sex_kicks_in_slurry/ (http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/4588410.Pervert_got_sex_kicks_in_slurry/)
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I think it was put best on TFLN, "half the nation just spent an hour watching a balloon fly around. we are officially the dumbest fucking country." (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/15/6-year-old-alone-in-hot-air-balloon-over-colorado/?hp&emc=na)
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Well put. :lol:
Carter-Ruck to sue everyone! (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/carter-ruck-to-sue-everyone-200910142137/)
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"Nikki Hollis, a Twitter from Grantham, said: "OMG Im going 2 b taken to the fkn cleaners! Nu shoes or legal advice – wat 2 do?!?"
Meanwhile Twitter's ability to reshape the democratic agenda was further underlined today with 'trending topics' including chocolate milk and paranormal activity, as well as a campaign demanding Lily Allen makes another album full of nursery-rhyme cock."
:lol:
That seems to be about normal standard for twittering - never has their been a more appropriately named site!
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Of course this should be a real favourite among the cognoscenti on this forum.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/do-chris-martin-next%2c-says-everyone-200910152140/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/do-chris-martin-next%2c-says-everyone-200910152140/)
:whistle:
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One lucky kid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8310051.stm#id8310000/8310000/8310051?ls)
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Don't think we have had these yet:
Oz driver prangs ute during 'amorous activities' (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/amorous_activities/).
Disney kicks 'Ho White' out of bed (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/ho_white/)
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Disney kicks 'Ho White' out of bed (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/16/ho_white/)
So Snow White was purely an invention of the Disney Corporation? Bollocks.
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(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/10/16/ho_white.jpg)
Looks like grumpy didn't get any
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One lucky kid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8310051.stm#id8310000/8310000/8310051?ls)
cant get sound, what happened to the child?
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One lucky kid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8310051.stm#id8310000/8310000/8310051?ls)
cant get sound, what happened to the child?
He was fine. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/16/baby-survives-train-hits-pram) Unbelievably.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/oct/19/power-of-social-networks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/oct/19/power-of-social-networks)
And of course the Brooker article is worth a read...........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir)
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Judge says chav scum deserves kicking (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1220656/Judge-tells-ASBO-thug-deserved-good-kicking-punching-policewomans-car-drunken-rage.html)
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Throw away the Casiotone.
New instrument scales musical heights (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8295813.stm#id8290000/8295800/8295813)
Was Moby the best they could come up with?
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Quite interesting.
The best "new" instrument that I've come across in recent years is the Hangdrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_%28musical_instrument%29). I guess its pretty easy to come up with new percussion instruments (there's a great tune with a sample about humans evolving and banging a log and coming up with a rhythm that always makes me smile), but the hang drum in the right hands is beautiful. I've got several of Manu Delago's (http://www.manudelago.com/eng/home.htm) CDs. He must eat a lot of eggs, but here's a sampler...
Manu Delago Hang solo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ojj7tgrqw#)
(Probably posted before, but its rather good so no harm done :) )
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Don't sip white wine, neck it and save your teeth! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8314802.stm)
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No License to Sing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8317952.stm) :shrug: PRS gone mad.
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I think the PRS is important for big chains etc. Obviously this is much different and a mistake was made, one of the outcomes of trying to have one big system to deal with all situations. A nice, personal apology I think.
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This (http://wikileaks.org/wiki/MoD_%27how_to_stop_leaks%27_document_is_leaked) made me laugh :)
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I think the PRS is important for big chains etc. Obviously this is much different and a mistake was made, one of the outcomes of trying to have one big system to deal with all situations. A nice, personal apology I think.
A nice personal apology granted, but someone should have had the sense to realise that its someone singing in a shop as they work, with no backing group or music and it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
I don't necessarily agree that its important for big chains or anywhere either really. The royalties don't go to the musicians, well very little will do if the amount they get from a CD sale is anything to go by, its just so the music companies can rake in tons of cash for doing dick all.
Besides which, what about the radios/staff personal mp3 players/spotify/mp3 streaming you have down at climbing walls and so forth? Pretty sure the radio in the Matrix isn't licensed under PRS, but there are certainly quite a few people who have paid for entry and hear it.
Record industries need to rethink their business models as the're holding onto a sinking ship with royalties with this facet.
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I expect it was just some jumped up jobsworth operating on their behalf, and not PRS targeting anything.
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I don't necessarily agree that its important for big chains or anywhere either really. The royalties don't go to the musicians, well very little will do if the amount they get from a CD sale is anything to go by, its just so the music companies can rake in tons of cash for doing dick all.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the PRS collects money solely for the songwriter or holder of the copyright of the song not the record company.
Record industries need to rethink their business models as the're holding onto a sinking ship with royalties with this facet.
I think the PRS and organisations like it are / will be a major part of that rethinking. e.g. the youtube music video thing, now sorted.
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:agree:
I don't necessarily agree that its important for big chains or anywhere either really. The royalties don't go to the musicians, well very little will do if the amount they get from a CD sale is anything to go by, its just so the music companies can rake in tons of cash for doing dick all.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the PRS collects money solely for the songwriter or holder of the copyright of the song not the record company.
Fair-dos I did no research before making the above statement. However, a lot of artists don't write their own songs or hold the copyright (e.g. didn't Michael Jackson buy the rights to the Beatles catalogue?). I guess thats starting to change, but it must still be the record companies who take the largest share of royalties for PRS.
Also, if the above article is accurate how do they quantify which artists are to receive royalties for songs played on the radio? How do they even assess what radio stations have been played within a given establishment so that they can look at the track list and apportion remuneration?
I'm sure the answers are out there, I just can't be arsed looking them up at the moment.
As for the jobsworth slant, just train people properly and/or employ people with common sense, its not really a justifiable excuse to my mind. I mean does this particular jobsworth start running after people he passes in the street who are humming away to themselves for royalties for their public performances?
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I agree that it is poor staffing, all I was saying is I doubt it was any sort of strategy on their behalf, not making an excuse for the behaviour.
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Also, if the above article is accurate how do they quantify which artists are to receive royalties for songs played on the radio? How do they even assess what radio stations have been played within a given establishment so that they can look at the track list and apportion remuneration?
I'm sure the answers are out there, I just can't be arsed looking them up at the moment.
http://tinyurl.com/ygzr4vn (http://tinyurl.com/ygzr4vn) :P
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Also, if the above article is accurate how do they quantify which artists are to receive royalties for songs played on the radio? How do they even assess what radio stations have been played within a given establishment so that they can look at the track list and apportion remuneration?
I'm sure the answers are out there, I just can't be arsed looking them up at the moment.
http://tinyurl.com/ygzr4vn (http://tinyurl.com/ygzr4vn) :P
Touche!
Seems the original instance may not be an overly zealous employee though if the Media coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRS_for_Music#Media_coverage) is anything to go by.
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High-five on the job front (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8319950.stm)
If the prices quoted are for top-end stuff like White Widow then thats well cheap!
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What a revelation! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/22/anti_extremist_extremism/)
I'd hardly calling wanting to have a drink whilst cooking "extreme" though, damn glad I didn't go to Stanford :thumbsdown:
One less attention seeking whiner (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/22/luddite_allen/) :thumbsup:
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PRS generally is a good thing. However there is a slight flaw in their methodology; any money that can't be given to the correct recipient - because they've disappeared etc - gets given to Sting, on the basis he gets the biggest chunk of the rest anyway. I have it on good authority that this is FACT, though google doesn't seem to be able to back it up for me...
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PRS generally is a good thing. However there is a slight flaw in their methodology; any money that can't be given to the correct recipient - because they've disappeared etc - gets given to Sting, on the basis he gets the biggest chunk of the rest anyway. I have it on good authority that this is FACT, though google doesn't seem to be able to back it up for me...
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Sting or Mr Sting?
The Stotts Interview Sting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Zot1i7bJk#)
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Google did tell me he does a lot of work promoting PRS though. Now there's a fucking surprise.
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the stupid bitch still doesn't get it, does she? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8322147.stm)
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"Louis is definitely going to be back," said Brian Friedman. "We've been talking about his song choices and I think they're really good."
Good to see them end on an up note there. Sad-face endings are so Daily Mail.
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"Louis is definitely going to be back," said Brian Friedman. "We've been talking about his song choices and I think they're really good."
Good to see them end on an up note there. Sad-face endings are so Daily Mail.
amen to that, preach. a-fucking-men.
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I wouldn't necessarily call yet another piece of free advertising for Cunty Cowell's Freak Show of Doom an up note mind.
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WTF? (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Man-Facing-Indecent-Exposure-Charges-After-Brewing-Coffee-Naked-In-His-Own-Kitchen/Article/200910315410967?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15410967_US%3A_Man_Facing_Indecent_Exposure_Charges_After_Brewing_Coffee_Naked_In_His_Own_Kitchen)
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WTF? (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Man-Facing-Indecent-Exposure-Charges-After-Brewing-Coffee-Naked-In-His-Own-Kitchen/Article/200910315410967?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15410967_US%3A_Man_Facing_Indecent_Exposure_Charges_After_Brewing_Coffee_Naked_In_His_Own_Kitchen)
My wife clocked this on the news last nightm its fucking ridiculous, but then it is the US (although I wouldn't be surprosed if it happend here given the over zealous policing these days).
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Surely he'll get off. It's fucking insane........oh yeah, it's in the Land Of The Free as you say so probably not.
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Amazing Sun headline.........
http://img44.yfrog.com/i/fgdhl.jpg/ (http://img44.yfrog.com/i/fgdhl.jpg/)
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you've got to take your hat off to them sometimes. genius.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/23/2722773.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/23/2722773.htm) ???
WTF is going on over there?!
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Frogs shaft Scientologist scum. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8327569.stm)
France regards Scientology as a sect, not a religion.
Shame about them getting away with not being totally banned but still.
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Fucking scum (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/8329496.stm) :furious: :furious: :furious:
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Aye.
They need their limbs amputating and be chained by the neck to a short post so dogs can urinate on them.
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On a brighter note Curry anyone? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8328377.stm)
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Fucking scum (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/8329496.stm) :furious: :furious: :furious:
The offenders, who ran off, wore hooded tops.
I knew it!
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Amazing Sun headline.........
http://img44.yfrog.com/i/fgdhl.jpg/ (http://img44.yfrog.com/i/fgdhl.jpg/)
No, no, can't let them get away with that. The very idea that the Sun would have an original thought!
Sun nick someone else's idea shock more like. That line originally by Saint Billy the Bragg -
There you are standing in the bar
And you're giving me grief about the DDR
And that chip on your shoulder gets bigger as you
get older
One of these night you're gonna get caught,
And She'll give you a pregnant pause for thought
You're a dedicated swallower of fascism
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So, as far as I'm concerned you can still
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/cartoon/2009/oct/01/steve-bell-the-sun-cartoon (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/cartoon/2009/oct/01/steve-bell-the-sun-cartoon)
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I am unable to come up with a witty strapline for this so a very factual 112 year old marries a 17 year old (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8331136.stm) will have to do.
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Fattism (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8327753.stm) :thumbsdown:
Strange "expert" opinion, I don't think its simply what gets put in your mouth, but also the amount of exercise done.
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it was only a matter of time.... google launches sat nav rival...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8331824.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8331824.stm)
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Should have thought it through a bit more (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/mar/01/ethicalliving.travelandtransport) :lol:
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Who loves a KFC?
Some extra protein at this branch if you're lucky...
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Kentucky-Fried-Chicken-Being-Prosecuted-After-Cockroaches-And-Mice-Found-In-London-Branch/Article/200910415421848?lpos=Business_Second_Home_Page_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15421848_Kentucky_Fried_Chicken_Being_Prosecuted_After_Cockroaches_And_Mice_Found_In_London_Branch (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Kentucky-Fried-Chicken-Being-Prosecuted-After-Cockroaches-And-Mice-Found-In-London-Branch/Article/200910415421848?lpos=Business_Second_Home_Page_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15421848_Kentucky_Fried_Chicken_Being_Prosecuted_After_Cockroaches_And_Mice_Found_In_London_Branch)
Still, at this branch at least the staff take personal hygene seriously!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/KFC-Bath-Prank-Three-Girls-Fired-From-California-KFC-After-Bathing-In-Restaurant-Sinks/Article/200812215178233?lpos=World_News_Article_Related_Content_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15178233_KFC_Bath_Prank%3A_Three_Girls_Fired_From_California_KFC_After_Bathing_In_Restaurant_Sinks (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/KFC-Bath-Prank-Three-Girls-Fired-From-California-KFC-After-Bathing-In-Restaurant-Sinks/Article/200812215178233?lpos=World_News_Article_Related_Content_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15178233_KFC_Bath_Prank%3A_Three_Girls_Fired_From_California_KFC_After_Bathing_In_Restaurant_Sinks)
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MP didn't fiddle expenses shocker
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/30/tony-mcnulty-i-did-not-fiddle-expenses (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/30/tony-mcnulty-i-did-not-fiddle-expenses) :greed: :greed: :greed: :greed: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
Quite correct, more like a chello. (and yes plenty of Tories are guilty of defrauding the system as well)
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Quite correct, more like a chello. (and yes plenty of Tories are guilty of defrauding the system as well)
A chello??? I fort you wos an edgeycated fella!
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Burn the evil scientists (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224858/Yes-scientists-good-But-country-run-arrogant-gods-certainty-truly-hell-earth.html#ixzz0Vmx0YqSV) :wall:
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You bastard Chillax - carelessly clicked on the link only to be sucked into 'Mailworld' and find myself fives minutes later still reading the insanity that is Peter Hitchen's blog. Its just too gruesome to resist.
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Poor old witey, Nick Griffin get's told to go back to where he came from.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8340729.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8340729.stm)
Hmm isn't that the whole point of being in the BNP? :shrug:
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What nonsense.
Griffin should have his limbs amputated, be painted orange and forced to live in a glass jar as a permanent feature on the Richard and Judy show; kinda like one of the heads-in-a-jar on Futurama.
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Woman rings cops to decry daughter's superior BJ skills (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/04/hot_findlay_action/) - it rates pretty highly on the bizarre scale... ::)
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We're going to need a bigger boat!
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,26282344-948,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,26282344-948,00.html)
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that's what I'm talking about! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8343576.stm)
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that's what I'm talking about! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8343576.stm)
"Before long, the walking dead appeared at the funeral. It was a relief,"
genius.
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Red poppy to a bull (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8342958.stm).
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Hopefully going to change a lot of lives (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8348941.stm#id8340000/8348900/8348948) :thumbsup:
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iPhone owners are to be Rick Rolled (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8349905.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Word up, its THE news of the YEAR. 2009's Xmas toy craze will be (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/nov/09/hamsters-christmas-toy-craze)......
(wait for it)
GO GO HAMSTERS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rYUlG41-Fk&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rYUlG41-Fk&feature=player_embedded#)
nuff said.
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iPhone owners are to be Rick Rolled (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8349905.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, if you've jailbreaked it, installed a particular piece of software and live in Australia...
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iPhone owners are to be Rick Rolled (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8349905.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, if you've jailbreaked it, installed a particular piece of software and live in Australia...
Yeah, but either way its a pretty funny proof of concept (I thought anyway).
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iPhone owners are to be Rick Rolled (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8349905.stm) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, if you've jailbreaked it, installed a particular piece of software and live in Australia...
Yeah, but either way its a pretty funny proof of concept (I thought anyway).
:agree: gets his message across!
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Congo join the space race
TROPOSPHÈRE V à Kinshasa, une vidéo de Nzwamba programme, spatial, espace, fusée, kemet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sscYIVx4CgY#)
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Thats priceless - wait until the end - on the slo-mo you get a good idea of what actually happened to the rocket if you're french is not too hot!
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Video of drunk American woman falling in front of train...
Train woman's narrow escape (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8352198.stm#id8350000/8352100/8352198)
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cooze news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8352711.stm)
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Wasn't sure where to put this as it's comment rather than news but anyone interested in the whole government v Science drugs policy thing should read it.
Actually everyone should read it.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-accept-the-facts-ndash-and-end-this-futile-war-on-drugs-1818167.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-accept-the-facts-ndash-and-end-this-futile-war-on-drugs-1818167.html)
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Good article...
the ONDCP spent $14bn on anti-cannabis adverts aimed at teenagers, and $43m to find out if the ads worked. They discovered that kids who saw the ads were more likely afterwards to get stoned, so the evidence was suppressed, and the ad campaign marched on.
Fact Two is somewhat tempered by the reported increase (not sure I trust the sources) in cocaine usage, but reduction in purity (couldn't say, narcotics have never been of that much interest to me).
I was convinced by Marks (Howard) back in 1998(ish???) that legalisation, as opposed to decriminalisation, was the most logical approach to drug policy (whilst smoking spliffs in the Sheffield Uni Lecture Theatre :P)
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I was convinced by Marks (Howard) back in 1998(ish???) that legalisation, as opposed to decriminalisation, was the most logical approach to drug policy (whilst smoking spliffs in the Sheffield Uni Lecture Theatre :P)
:) I saw Howard Marks whilst in Cardiff Uni in 1998.. Guess it was the same tour?
Personally I can't wait for the day when one can nip down to Tesco's for a loaf and an 1/8 of skunk ;D
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Disgraceful. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/un-investigator-us-neglect-homeless)
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How the US funds the Taliban.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091130/roston (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091130/roston)
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Burn the evil scientists (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224858/Yes-scientists-good-But-country-run-arrogant-gods-certainty-truly-hell-earth.html#ixzz0Vmx0YqSV) :wall:
:wank:
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Amazing. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/berlusconi-italy-immunity-bill?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Once again, you have to admire the cunt. :spank: but :bow:.
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what a sleazy twat.
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It's the way he's basically admitting to being guilty so instead of attempting any kind of defence he constantly attempts to change the law so he can't be prosecuted that amazes me. Only in Italy could anyone be so blatant about their total cuntishness and get away with it. Oh hang on, I forgot about Bush.
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Burn the evil scientists (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224858/Yes-scientists-good-But-country-run-arrogant-gods-certainty-truly-hell-earth.html#ixzz0Vmx0YqSV) :wall:
:wank:
The Mail really is total filth isn't it.
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(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Nov/Week2/15452030.jpg) (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/BNP-Man-Mark-Collett-Slammed-For-Posting-Anti-Muslim-Pac-Man-Joke-Shahid-Malik-Calls-It-Racist/Article/200911215452046?f=rss) :wank:
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"The Pac-Man character eats ghosts, but to suggest that anyone in the BNP wants anyone to eat women in burqas is laughable.
"It's not suggesting that anyone needs sorting out, it was simply a joke.”
Yeah that makes perfect sense, well done.
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Thatcher is dead (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8358544.stm)...
No not that one. :(
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(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Nov/Week2/15452030.jpg) (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/BNP-Man-Mark-Collett-Slammed-For-Posting-Anti-Muslim-Pac-Man-Joke-Shahid-Malik-Calls-It-Racist/Article/200911215452046?f=rss) :wank:
you've got to hand it to those retarded goose stepping neo-nazi fantascists, they really do give credance to the old "if you give them enough rope they'll hang themselves" cliche.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/13/wikipedia-sued-privacy-claim (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/13/wikipedia-sued-privacy-claim)
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kebab anyone? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8360569.stm)
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What a surprise, MPs are technologically inept (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8357921.stm)
Windows 7 in unoriginal shocker (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8358712.stm) :lol:
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Harris mocks freakshow. (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/showbiz/television-news/2009/11/16/exclusive-calvin-harris-given-life-ban-from-x-factor-after-pineapple-stage-invasion-prank-86908-21825386/)
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Do you know why Edward Woodward has so many Ds in his name? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8362367.stm#id8360000/8362600/8362627)
long live the equalizer
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Harris mocks freakshow. (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/showbiz/television-news/2009/11/16/exclusive-calvin-harris-given-life-ban-from-x-factor-after-pineapple-stage-invasion-prank-86908-21825386/)
from comments;
call banning this guy from X Factor a punishment? You've done him a big favour! Punishment will come from the National Fruit and Vegetable Association, and the International Committee of Pineapple Growers who will view this stunt as a humiliating insult to pineapples everywhere! I would even go so far as to say that a mini-war will break out when it is suggested that John and Edward can be likened more to turnips. This will cause great offence to a paramilitary breakaway division of the NF&VA, with an ensuing battle taking place at the fruit and veg counters of every major supermarket across the country
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The real argument for introducing ID cards is ............
wait for it
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Yep, you might fancy a cheeky pint.
ID cards 'good for going to bars' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8361943.stm#id8360000/8361800/8361819-audio)
:wall: :wall: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
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Jesus as if having Berlusconi as a priminister wasn't bad enough...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8362525.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8362525.stm)
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Just nipping out for a pint of milk... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8365665.stm)
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Just nipping out for a pint of milk... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8365665.stm)
He actually finished up at a petrol station a couple of miles from us here (it was our local copper he asked for help!) That's like going out for a paper in GLasgow and ending up in London!! :lol:
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Pretend to be a Hamster in this French Hotel. This ranks about 8.6 on my weirdshitometer (tm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2009/nov/18/human-hamster-hotel-france (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2009/nov/18/human-hamster-hotel-france)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2009/11/18/1258540562191/Hamster-hotel-in-Nantes-F-003.jpg)
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Pretend to be a Hamster in this French Hotel. This ranks about 8.6 on my weirdshitometer (tm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2009/nov/18/human-hamster-hotel-france (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2009/nov/18/human-hamster-hotel-france)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2009/11/18/1258540562191/Hamster-hotel-in-Nantes-F-003.jpg)
Why
would
anyone
want
to? :shrug:
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Why? :shrug:
No idea but he is likely to be inundated with requests from some of these oddballs (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8355287.stm).
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Just to prove it really is Mandleson that's in charge.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8817020 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8817020)
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How fucking pathetic that both Brown and Cameron have to try to curry favour with the great unwashed by pretending to be interested in Cunty Cowell's Cash Cow. The country would be better off if by voting on X Fucktor you forfeited your right to vote in the election. Actually, even better if your vote was forfeited just by watching that muck.
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This ranks about 8.6 on my weirdshitometer (tm)
Did you design these (http://tinyurl.com/ygvkonp) snazzy hats? Guess you must be raking it in? ;)
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Take that hissy fit having child! (http://)
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Take that hissy fit having child! (http://)
Forgot the URL brad
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Pretend to be a Hamster in this French Hotel. This ranks about 8.6 on my weirdshitometer (tm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2009/nov/18/human-hamster-hotel-france (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/blog/2009/nov/18/human-hamster-hotel-france)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2009/11/18/1258540562191/Hamster-hotel-in-Nantes-F-003.jpg)
Why
would
anyone
want
to? :shrug:
That reminds of the Jim'll Fix It episode where they made one boys wish to be a mouse for a day come true. They dressed him up in a mouse outfit and let him eat cheese etc, you know typical "pretending to be a mouse" shit. Jim asks the kid what he thinks and kid, in a completely disappointed tone of voice, says "but I wanted to really be turned into a mouse for a day". Genius.
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"Now then now then. Take your badge and fuck off you ungrateful little shit."
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"Now then now then. Take your badge and get down there and do a favour for an old soldier."
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Take that hissy fit having child! (http://)
Try this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/19/ozark_tasering/)
I am dedicating the lack of a URL to the engineers mate who thought it would be a good idea to configure up two switches with the same IP address and all of the other lovely people who seem to be blighting my day at work to a level that seems a tad unnecessary to say the least.
Fuck me I sound like Gwyneth but without the tears (though they are not far off I suspect) :(
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A wake up call for Labour, the law applies to you too.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8369371.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8369371.stm)
PS can I just say how much I fucking hate the mis use of the word 'allegedly'.
She's being prosecuted for careless driving, failing to stop and report and use of a mobile phone.
The allegation is that's what she's done, an allegation that some alleged that she'd done something wouldn't be worth a hill of fuck of you patronising, expense defrauding bitch.
cvnts
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Good rant Slopes, nice
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I was compeltely calm until I saw that the file had been passed to the Special Crimes Division to make a decision.
FFS THE SCD, who usually deal in terrorism, misconduct in public office of senior people, potential homicide charges against the police and other, well really naughty things.
When I was working in the police service if a Sgt came to me asking for advice on charge I'd put him down on my fuckwit list. Even with CPS direct*, this would go to a half trained monkey for a decision.
The message that this sends out is that if you're a senior politician (maybe with no party political bias) then they law and the mechanisms of tlaw don't equally apply to you and that makes me want to regress to any angry 1 year old and join the SWP.
CVNTS, this is actually worse than Jack Straw getting his paedophile brother off with a caution as there's no real political damage that would result from the summons (note not charge, summons, fucking ignorant journalists) as everyone knows she's an arrogant patronising bitch.
This bunch of cvnts just don't do the rule of law.
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OS maps to be made freely available online (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/19/ordnance-survey-maps-free-online) for commercial use, at scales up to 1:10,000.
Fucking brilliant.
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Wish SYP were giving the same level of attention/detail to my complaint about a fuckwit arsehole who failed to indicate when turning left and knocked me off my bike then when I told him I was going to call the police drove off without exchanging contact/insurance details!!! (Formal letter of complaint almost completed and should be sent tomorrow before my Sardinia sojourn).
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Grim! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/20/peru-gang-killing-human-fat)
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Grim! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/20/peru-gang-killing-human-fat)
Do not talk about Fight Club
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Grim! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/20/peru-gang-killing-human-fat)
Do not talk about Fight Club
Do NOT talk about Fight Club
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(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46762000/jpg/_46762188_bridge_bbc.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8369934.stm)
:o
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(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46762000/jpg/_46762188_bridge_bbc.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8369934.stm)
:o
A bit more :o for the poor policeman who was standing on it when it was swept away.. he's still missing...
Hillary Ben is a twat - he is quoted as saying "this is the wettest day ever" honestly....
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Grim! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/20/peru-gang-killing-human-fat)
Do not talk about Fat Club
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:lol: Very good
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Hillary Ben
AKA Noah
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Hillary Ben
AKA Noah
Noah idea more like...
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not long enough :wank: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8370277.stm)
How to kill your wife and not go to jail (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8370237.stm)
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Given how lenient sentencing has become that actually seems about right.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cumbria-deluge-breaks-historic-rainfall-record-1824353.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cumbria-deluge-breaks-historic-rainfall-record-1824353.html)
12.4 inches in 24 hours, that's over 300mm! Where I live we get less than that in an average year - and we've not even been getting close to average in the 4 years we've been here!
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Be careful what you put on Facebook!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/22/2749889.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/22/2749889.htm)
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http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/20/britains-new-interne.html (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/20/britains-new-interne.html)
:wall: :furious: :rtfm:
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£50,000 fines if someone in your house is accused of filesharing
Hmm - what a reasonable figure... :wall:
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"Accused" as well, not "found guilty of".
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Trump continues to be a tosser.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/24/donald-trump-golf-course-opponent (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/24/donald-trump-golf-course-opponent)
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At least he's consistent.
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Aye, be nice if he showed a shred of decency once in a while.
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Murdoch / Cameron coverup. Or why it's worth reading The Guardian for actual news.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2009/nov/25/newsoftheworld-newsinternational (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2009/nov/25/newsoftheworld-newsinternational)
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Fucking ridiculous. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/26/depeche-mode-martin-gore?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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Fucking ridiculous. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/26/depeche-mode-martin-gore?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Brilliant - thank you, another excellent article Mr Sharpe :thumbsup:
he "relies on videogames heavily for the little ongoing happiness he can achieve in this life"
:lol:
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You couldn't make it up.
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The gamer's past grievances, all unsuccessful, include a suit against Microsoft, claiming a broken Xbox 360 caused him undue stress; a claim against Sony, alleging they violated his First Amendment rights by banning him from their network; and a claim against Nintendo, arguing that by blocking certain Wii software they interfered with his inalienable right to seek happiness.
I wonder if he has ever heard the phrase "GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!!"?
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Interesting lunchtime reading.....
http://bit.ly/805L2p (http://bit.ly/805L2p)
And the response from Ian Clarke....
http://blog.locut.us/main/2009/11/25/the-guardian-writes-about-freenet.html (http://blog.locut.us/main/2009/11/25/the-guardian-writes-about-freenet.html)
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Undoubtedly the only sensible story written about the so-called "climategate" (should I go straight to room 101 for typing that?) e-mail thing!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/climate-change-emails-stop-glaciers-from-melting-200911252254/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/climate-change-emails-stop-glaciers-from-melting-200911252254/)
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Interesting blog post thing (http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/11/30/media-after-the-site/) about new media etc. Succinctly pointing out why Murdoch has got it so very wrong. Ties in with the discussion on this thread (http://[url=http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,12994.msg229496.html#msg229496).
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Good post Jasper - and Dave C - one of my colleagues was (unwittingly) caught up in the climateemail-gate scandal - and he found it very funny!
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Ouch! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/30/italian-police-lamborghini)
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relive some of your favourite moments from 24 years of brutal dictatorial authoritarianism (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8385959.stm).
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relive some of your favourite moments from 24 years of brutal dictatorial authoritarianism (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8385959.stm).
Is that available on IPlayer? :)
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The gamer's past grievances, all unsuccessful, include a suit against Microsoft, claiming a broken Xbox 360 caused him undue stress; a claim against Sony, alleging they violated his First Amendment rights by banning him from their network; and a claim against Nintendo, arguing that by blocking certain Wii software they interfered with his inalienable right to seek happiness.
I wonder if he has ever heard the phrase "GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!!"?
Or at least a "SECOND FUCKING LIFE"
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(http://img50.yfrog.com/img50/2914/49153765.jpg) (http://img50.yfrog.com/i/49153765.jpg/)
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"...it's fair to say that most Sydney bars are full of wankers..."
A fact well known to most Melbourne people!
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Somewhat discriminatory (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8390001.stm)
Surely there is already a fine for dropping litter in place, a cigarette butt constitutes litter, why the need to introduce a new by-law then? Presumably these 10 "wardens" will also be looking out for people dropping sweet wrappers, crisp packets, chewing gum etc. :shrug:
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Interesting blog post thing (http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/11/30/media-after-the-site/) about new media etc. Succinctly pointing out why Murdoch has got it so very wrong. Ties in with the discussion on this thread (http://[url=http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,12994.msg229496.html#msg229496).
"Get real, you guys. The world has changed." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/dec/01/arianna-huffington-murdoch-ftc)
Awesome speech by Arianna Huffington.
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How about plugging the holes that allow malware to be installed in the first place and taking responsibility you bunch of money grabbing :wank: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8388253.stm) :rtfm: :shrug:
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A happy news story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8389689.stm#id8380000/8389700/8389711)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/01/national-geographic-did-b_n_375983.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/01/national-geographic-did-b_n_375983.html)
"Candido Godol, a small town in Brazil, has long astonished the world with its very abnormally high level of birth rates for twins. The rate is nearly a thousand percent higher than the global average: "the 80 households in a one-square-mile area have reportedly some 38 pairs of twins. Blond, blue-eyed twins."
National Geographic Explorer is digging into this mystery and they have come up with a pretty out there, and horrifying, theory. They investigate claims that mad Nazi scientist Joseph Mengele, who escaped to Brazil, continued his research into using twins as a way to build a perfect Aryan master race. One historian thinks Mengele succeeded, and this town is the proof."
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Do we need bigger seats on planes? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6671018/Obese-air-passenger-in-economy-seat-has-picture-taken.html)
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Do we need bigger seats on planes? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6671018/Obese-air-passenger-in-economy-seat-has-picture-taken.html)
No as the article says they can buy an extra seat.
I can't take more than my allocated weight allowance on plane without paying extra, just because some people carry extra weight around with them doesn't mean they should have special dispensation.
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So should airlines price it differently? You get say 100Kg of total allowance, if you only weigh 60Kg - you can put 40Kg of suitcases in... ;D
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So should airlines price it differently? You get say 100Kg of total allowance, if you only weigh 60Kg - you can put 40Kg of suitcases in... ;D
YES! please! save all this check in weight bollocks. Just get you and all your bags on a scale then charge you accordingly - after all more weight = more fuel consumed...
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Yep, I think thats exactly how it should be.
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If they want to make wider seats for fatties, why doesn't anyone over 6ft have a special seat with extra legroom?
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01532/passenger_1532425c.jpg)
Having now emailed/tweeted this picture to most people I know I've noticed two things.
1. the armrest on the aisle side is not up - so he must be sitting on it :o (whether thats a :o for the armrest - poor thing or a :o for the fat fella I'm not sure..)
2. The whole seat is warped - e.g. twisting down slightly to the left - probably because it has 20+ stone on one armrest... or its been shopped (I think the former..)
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I've been banging the total weight allowance drum for years. How can it not make sense? Fat cunts. And I agree on the legroom thing Chris. Why discriminate against the tall but not the fat.
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Apparently the bag weight thing is not only to do with fuel, it's to do with the amount of weight a baggage handler can lift without help or causing damage. Although I don't see why I can't take 2x15kg bags rather than one 30kg in that case. :shrug:
Fatties should pay for an extra seat, if I have to cut out 4 pairs of shoes to save on weight or pay extra to take them then they can bloody well cut out the cakes or pay more to take their guts! >:(
AND, don't be letting your fat leg spill onto my seat or asking if the armrest can go up so you can share mine. :spank:
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Looks to me like he was in the two empty seats behind and he's sat on the arm rest in front to chat to his friend :shrug:
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Although I don't see why I can't take 2x15kg bags rather than one 30kg in that case. :shrug:
Ah, but 2 bags would take twice as long as one bag to load and unload, shirley.
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I watched one of the Plane Crash Investigation programs on the discovery channel a while ago. Basically the fatties had caused a plane in America to crash. The pilots know how much the baggage weighs as each suitcase gets weighed. But they have no idea about passenger weight, they do have the total passenger number so they multiply it by an average figure to get a rough estimate for total weight of the plane (including fuel weight which they know the weight of).
Anyway, the upshot was that they were using average weight figure from like 1980. Since then the average weight of an American has increased by a large percentage and therefore the weight calculations were way out - plane took off and crashed almost instantly as it was too heavy.
Moral of the story - if you see lots of fatties on your plane, get off ;D
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That'll be an urban myth as as I recall from my rather tedious aviation law course the CAA / FAA provide for decent margains of error, hence routinge dumping of excess fuel on the approach to landing.
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That'll be an urban myth as as I recall from my rather tedious aviation law course the CAA / FAA provide for decent margains of error, hence routinge dumping of excess fuel on the approach to landing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/28/us/faa-reviews-rules-on-passenger-weight-after-crash.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/28/us/faa-reviews-rules-on-passenger-weight-after-crash.html)
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its a semi-myth. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Midwest_Flight_5481)
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Fair enough - bloody scaremongering!
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For those interested in (and perhaps surprised by) the verdict in the Meredith Kercher murder trial, this is worth reading to understand why they don't do things the same way in Italy!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/06/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-trial-perugia (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/06/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-trial-perugia)
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Free State-run Intenet Cafe's or "e-libraries" would be a good idea (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8401196.stm)
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Praise be, jesus has spoken to me from a cheese flavoured maize based snack product
http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2009/12/top-10-places-jesus-revealed-himself-this-year.html (ftp://http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2009/12/top-10-places-jesus-revealed-himself-this-year.html)
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Free State-run Intenet Cafe's or "e-libraries" would be a good idea (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8401196.stm)
Be a good idea to use current libraries for this plan. If advertised properly then it would not only offer internet access direct to local communities but promote the libraries' current services. Might even get more people reading books.
Ah now I've read it all it seems they already do this to a certain extent. So they need to extend the service and promote it better.
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Yeah, I know post offices already have public access computers, but I was thinking that it should be extended such that rural areas where the nearest library is a bus that comes round once a month and at present individual net access isn't great could all have a free internet cafe if it really is the governments plan to have everything online.
Probably all get wanked away on some "commission" to look at how the money could be best spent (which invariably ends up being on themselves :wank:).
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How cynical slackers. And probably spot on.
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The daily Steve Bell fix:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/cartoon/2009/dec/09/tony-blair-iraq-steve-bell (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/cartoon/2009/dec/09/tony-blair-iraq-steve-bell)
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01532/passenger_1532425c.jpg)
Irresponsible airline to let this guy on in the first place. He's a danger to everyone around him in the event of evacuation.
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What a dick (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm)
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Maybe American Airlines should adopt this:
United Airlines Obese Passenger Policy (http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,52985,00.html)
Criteria
- are unable to fit into a single seat in the ticketed cabin;
- are unable to properly buckle the seatbelt using a single seatbelt extender; and/or
- are unable to put the seat's armrests down when seated.
If unused seats are available on the ticketed United or United Express flight, then a customer meeting any of the above criteria will be reaccommodated next to an empty seat.
If no unused seats are available on the ticketed flight, then the customer must either purchase an upgrade to a cabin with available seats that address the above-listed scenarios, or change his or her ticket to the next available flight and purchase a second seat in addition to the one already purchased. If a customer meeting any of the above-listed criteria cannot be accommodated next to an empty seat and chooses not to upgrade or change flights and purchase a ticket for an additional seat, he or she will not be permitted to board the flight.
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What a dick (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm)
Thats old, was in the news a year or two ago.
Irresponsible airline to let this guy on in the first place. He's a danger to everyone around him in the event of evacuation.
Covered a page (or so) up.
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WHO in "heavily influenced by Big Pharma" shocker. (http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Big_Pharma_inside_the_WHO:_confidential_analysis_of_unreleased_WHO_Expert_Working_Group_draft_reports%2C_8_Dec_2009) Someone remind me, how much has been spent on Tamiflu? ;)
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Record companies in hypocrite shock
http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/record-industry-sued-60-billion-practices/ (http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/12/record-industry-sued-60-billion-practices/)
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That's a great story. Read about it here (http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4596/135/) the other day from a link on Twitter.
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D'oh!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/8405434.stm)
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Specialist tech support (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/12/dellconnect_tech_gets_frisky/)
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[noembed]you couldn't make this shit up: sleazeball Itie PM hit by minicathedral-brandishing mentalist. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8410946.stm#id8410000/8410900/8410967)[/noembed]
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great stuff. just be glad he didn't live in Paris or he could have lost an eye.
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Berlusconi's a WANKER. That film is hilarious. No sympathy whatsoever.
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D'oh!!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/8405434.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46893000/jpg/_46893089_bus_sign_1.jpg)
His great grandfather was Russian, it's like a double-recessive spelling gene error. ...ded Bus Oily, if my Russian is correct.
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I know I shouldn't glory in a violent act, I know my Dad would give me a bollocking, I know laughing at another's misfortune is wrong, wrong, wrong but Berlusconi's a fascist sleazeball so :bow: to the cheap tourist artefact hurling freedom fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know I shouldn't glory in a violent act, I know my Dad would give me a bollocking, I know laughing at another's misfortune is wrong, wrong, wrong but Berlusconi's a fascist sleazeball so :bow: to the cheap tourist artefact hurling freedom fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing wrong with that in my morally hazy world of schandenfruede.. ;)
Though personally I thought it funny/deserved not out of his alleged facist thingys, more that he is incredibly wealthy and seems to spend most of his time sniffing coke off the body parts of 18 year old models.
Of course I am not jealous... :whistle:
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Germanic Trolley Rage (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/trolley_rage/) featuring a salami and a 4lb piece of cheese!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8411894.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8411894.stm)
Proves gingers don't have a sense of humour either.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8411894.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8411894.stm)
Proves gingers don't have a sense of humour either shouldn't shop at Tesco's.
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Fuck you I won't buy what you tell me (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm) :D
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Accused phone thief snared after phone sends pic to victim (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/cell_phone_pic_arrest/)
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/12/04/suspect_selfpic.jpg)
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Fuck you I won't buy what you tell me (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm) :D
Prior to the final of the ITV talent show, he said: "I think the campaign's aimed directly at me."
No shit. It was worth spending 79p just to wind that smug twat up. Might do it again if needed.
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Cheers mate (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/8414712.stm)
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M$ really are theiving bar-stewards (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8415597.stm) :lol:
HD not so hot (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8415636.stm)
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Could this be the start of sensible school admissions (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8415678.stm)
Not that I have any children at the moment, although I may do one day, it pisses me off that schools can get away with discriminating against who they allow in based on the parents supposed beliefs/faith. Completely flies in the face of equality.
(Oh and "Jews' Free School" or JFS seems like a strange name for a Jewish school!).
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Could this be the start of sensible school admissions (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8415678.stm)
Not that I have any children at the moment, although I may do one day, it pisses me off that schools can get away with discriminating against who they allow in based on the parents supposed beliefs/faith. Completely flies in the face of equality.
(Oh and "Jews' Free School" or JFS seems like a strange name for a Jewish school!).
You have to be a Spurs fan to get in too.
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Fuck you I won't buy what you tell me (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm) :D
X Factor - Killing In The Name Of - Rage Against The Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AYUqVNSsY#)
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580360,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580360,00.html)
Good story.
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Do itunes purchases go towards Xmas number 1 counts?
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apparently yes.
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RATM on 5live this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pbq9j (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pbq9j) from 2:54:11 genius, listen ffor the 'get rid of it'!
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Taking video games too far... (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Tokyo-Man-Sal9000-Marries-Love-Plus-Video-Game-Character-Nene-Anegasaki-In-Japan/Article/200912315502540?lpos=World_News_First_Strange_News__Article_Teaser_Region__0&lid=ARTICLE_15502540_Tokyo_Man_Sal9000_Marries_Love_Plus_Video_Game_Character_Nene_Anegasaki_In_Japan)
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Giant Pyramid UFO 'Hovers Over Moscow' (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Pyramid-UFO-Hovers-In-Moscow-Skies-For-Hours-According-To-Video-Reports/Article/200912315503459?lpos=Strange_News_First_Strange_News__Article_Teaser_Region__0&lid=ARTICLE_15503459_Pyramid_UFO_Hovers_In_Moscow_Skies_For_Hours,_According_To_Video_Reports)
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Dec/Week3/15503452.jpg)
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With bonus "Jesus Face" seen in building on right.
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With bonus "Jesus Face" seen in building on right.
:lol:
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Like you just stepped out of a salon.. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Hairdresser-Clawz-Is-Real-Life-Edward-Scissorhands-After-Designing-Razor-Blade-Fingertip-Attachment/Article/200912215496448?lpos=Strange_News_First_Strange_News__Feature_Teaser_Region__0&lid=ARTICLE_15496448_Hairdresser_Clawz_Is_Real_Life_Edward_Scissorhands_After_Designing_Razor_Blade_Fingertip_Attachment)
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BBC News - YouTube video leads to Hollywood contract (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8417789.stm#id8410000/8417900/8417919)
£180, so how the hell does James Cameron just his gillion dollar budget?
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Government spending cuts are needed. Might I suggest quango bullshit such as........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/18/sport-england-active-people-survey (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/dec/18/sport-england-active-people-survey)
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Clearly in the wrong line of business.
"before we agree to conduct these surveys for you, we will need to ask you a few questions
1) Are you a bunch of stupid mugs
2) Do you have shitload of public money to squander
3) Will you pay us a shitload for essentially doing fuckall
If you have answered yes to all of the above, please confirm your willingness to enter into this agreement by handing over a signed blank cheque"
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It's a fucking joke.
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£180, so how the hell does James Cameron just his gillion dollar budget?
To pay the computer programmers ;D
Anyone seen Avatar yet?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8421076.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8421076.stm)
He said men tended to be attracted to female faces that were young and feminine
No shit, Sherlock. ;)
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So the Australian media thinks that reporting medieval superstitious bullshit is headline f'ing news! :spank:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/20/2776867.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/20/2776867.htm)
http://www.theage.com.au/national/vatican-gives-green-light-to-sainthood-20091219-l6rr.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/vatican-gives-green-light-to-sainthood-20091219-l6rr.html)
I don't give a shit how many people in this place are supposed to be catholic, it's not major news and it certainly should not be regarded as more important than the massive-fucking-waste-of-time-and-money which was the Copenhagen bunfight!
What a wonderfully forward-looking nation this is!!
(http://www.shredguitars.com/images/smilies/soapbox.gif)
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30 mile bus rampage (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Man-Jailed-After-Bus-Joyride-Horror-30-Mile-Road-Rampage-Gets-Shane-Oldroyd-Jailed-Indefinitely/Article/200912315504110?lpos=UK_News_First_Strange_News__Article_Teaser_Region__1&lid=ARTICLE_15504110_Man_Jailed_After_Bus_Joyride_Horror:_30-Mile_Road_Rampage_Gets_Shane_Oldroyd_Jailed_Indefinitely)
Don't know how to embed video from Sky, sorry...
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Fuck you I won't buy what you tell me (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm) :D
I am so pleased RATM got it. Been a fan for years and that tune was a constant when I was at school/Uni (although I think Bombtrack is a better tune).
Maybe this should be a YYFY!
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Great
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As Charlie Brooker said.........
Just downloaded RATM single. Yes I know it's Sony. So what? Campaign's funny, KITNO is a good song, and The Climb is utter shit.
It's just nice not to have yet another dogshit cover by one of Cowell's puppets as Christmas number one. :)
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You don't bring a gun to a snowball fight (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8423705.stm)
DC - Cop Waves Gun at Snowball Fight! (Courtesy of Reason.TV) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFC8mNdxV0c&NR=1#)
Cop admits to pulling gun at snowball fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RhossH1bm4#)
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http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/crime/Plea-sex-assault-op-shelf-stacker/article-1626452-detail/article.html (http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/crime/Plea-sex-assault-op-shelf-stacker/article-1626452-detail/article.html)
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How truly weird ???
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Shop liftings not so bad (according to one priest!) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8426205.stm#id8420000/8426600/8426657)
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What goes around comes around (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8425820.stm)
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Honestly, there are times I cannot comprehend the stupidity of people over here, then again, they did elect John Howard as PM for 12 years...the morons!
http://www.theage.com.au/national/warning-after-toddlers-locked-in-hot-cars-20091223-lcsc.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/warning-after-toddlers-locked-in-hot-cars-20091223-lcsc.html)
For some bizarre reason, there has been a trend toward buying black cars here as well, possibly the most stupid colour for anything in this climate.
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Beer cheaper than water in UK (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6962974.ece)
EDIT
Supermarket own brand value lager weak as piss - might as well buy water (http://www.canalcuttings.co.uk/review-lager-beer-supermarket-own-brand.html)
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Road hogs (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Escaped-Pigs-Lead-To-M11-In-Essex-Being-Closed-At-Junction-8-For-Stansted-Airport/Article/200912415510447?lpos=Strange_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15510447_Escaped_Pigs_Lead_To_M11_In_Essex_Being_Closed_At_Junction_8_For_Stansted_Airport)
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Those pigs remind me of my "Running of the Pigs" idea...
In the light of various ethical and environmental concerns it seems right to me that people should have a license to eat meat. Children will be exempt from needing a license. Adults will have to take part in an annual event to earn their license.
The event will involve a number of pigs of different sizes being released onto the streets. Everyone who wants to be allowed to eat meat must join in chasing/running from the pigs. The aim being to kill the little porkers using only bare hands and knives not longer than 15cm. Anyone who holds a pig down while it is murdered or who does the actual killing will get a lifetime license to eat meat. Everyone else who joins in the running will get a license for the year.
People who are unable to join in the running due to disability or old age can gain a license by helping with the butchering and roasting of the killed pigs. We'll all have roast pork sandwiches for tea at the end of the day.
Smaller events will be held in basketball courts and skate parks for people who can't make the main event.
Obviously there will be alternative events for people who can't get down with pork for religious or cultural reasons. The Manchester Goat-Fest and the Aberdeen Bull-Bash could be fun days out for all the family.
The first Running of the Pigs should take place in Sheffield to celebrate that city's tradition of roast pork sandwiches and knife making.
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Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Beer cheaper than water in UK (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6962974.ece)
EDIT
Supermarket own brand value lager weak as piss - might as well buy water (http://www.canalcuttings.co.uk/review-lager-beer-supermarket-own-brand.html)
Things have almost come full circle since beer was originally drunk in preference over water as the brewing process meant it had less contaminants than water. The circle will only be completed though when water supplies are contaminated.
People will be people and will invariably do what they want anyway, whether booze is expensive or not, or whether this has a detrimental effect on them or their family and friends.
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People will be people and will invariably do what they want anyway, whether booze is expensive or not, or whether this has a detrimental effect on them or their family and friends.
If booze is expensive then people will not get used to drinking loads of it to start with (thinking of the future here). This way people (of average means) will be less likely to value booze more than family and friends.
The minimum price per unit is a good thing. Quality is where it's at; and people with more money than sense will... um.... still become detached from their families - probably send the kids off to boarding school and all that shit.
Still leaves us the problem of how to deal with people already addicted to cheap booze though.
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a one way trip to jeddah?
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Still leaves us the problem of how to deal with people already addicted to cheap booze though.
I meant help as well as cope with. ::)
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I don't see people having a whip around for the grand cru classe claret that Graeme, Joe and I are jonesin' for.
Then again the social workers are proles and wouldn't be able to tell a good left bank from an over priced bot from tescos with too much gold on the label.
I mean look at CJD. :read: :pissed:
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I do hope you're not calling me a social worker (ssssspit), coz that would be fighting talk.
What has Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease got to do with the shiny labels that they have on quality wines?
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You're right, you're not an ant or a bee and don't work so you couldn't be a social worker right
Anyway fighting talk you say, come and have a pint of Margret Thathcer's the best thing that ever happened to this country at the Sheaf satruday evening. I will be masquarding as a prole playing cribbage. That's if you can get a man's pass from the boss. :-[
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the Sheaf satruday evening.
I'm coming down with a touch of Man Flu and am supposed to be supporting The Boss and her sister in a social visit to a person that neither of them likes (WTF?) on Sat eve, but will try my best to get my unprofessional, lazy, work shy arse to the bar if the wife can give me a bit of spending money.
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I do hope you're not calling me a social worker (ssssspit), coz that would be fighting talk.
Having just a finished a job where I was a running a crew of seventy people , made up of 48 non-english speaking 'locals' , seven incredibly racist emiratees (?) and fifteen work shy english oxygen thieves I have decided to become an anti-social worker ...
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Those pigs remind me of my "Running of the Pigs" idea...
I have no idea why that hasn't caught on? :o
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Eh? What did you say? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/30/ipod_hearing_loss_appeal/)
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Those pigs remind me of my "Running of the Pigs" idea...
I have no idea why that hasn't caught on? :o
Lack of publicity
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Would you chase this?
(http://solivakasama.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/vore_assasinated.jpg)
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Yes, wearing only speedos and armed with 6 inch knife.
bring it on
See how dumb these guys look with their hunting clothes, spears and oversized knives :lol: . Speedos and pen knives are the future of hog hunting.
(http://www.a-wild-boar-hog-hunting-florida-guide-service.com/boar-hurman-3-30-08.jpg)
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Pssst! Want a "banana"? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/04/banana_box_surprise/) :lol:
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Vanity rules (apparently) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8439495.stm)
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See how dumb these guys look with their hunting clothes, spears and oversized knives :lol: .
The guy in the middle seems to be only armed with spectacles, hardcore :bow:
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Letting fatties roam the site is a direct threat to our business model
Priceless :)
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Its a myth! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8439000.stm)
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Watch out Derren Brown (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Mass-Hypnosis-World-Record-Bid-By-Thousands-Of-People-Online-Organised-By-Chris-Hughes/Article/201001115513881?f=rss)
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Give me your fucking chicken nuggets (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ODD_MCNUGGET_ARREST?SITE=PASTR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)
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Y2010 Bug hits Australia (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/04/bank_queensland/)
...and Windows Mobile (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/05/windows_mobe_bug/)
:lol:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-pr0n-laws (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-pr0n-laws)
:shrug:
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Utter bollocks, I'd be more credible writing about string theory and dark matter, the author of that article has just taken a shit press release and dressed it up as copy.
This would struggle to get a 'G' in GCSE law.
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Fat racist sexist commedian is called Royston Vasey. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/ (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/)
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Cheap CD's on Amazon (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1239887/Man-buys-3billion-CD-ROM-Amazon--just-happen.html)
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You can teach dogs new
tricks words
smart pooch (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8441974.stm#id8440000/8441900/8441974)
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Is that amazing? If you tell my grans dog to get Elmo he runs to his Elmo toy. He does that with a few of his toys. He's thick as pig shit too. I'm unimpressed :shrug:
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Is that amazing? If you tell my grans dog to get Elmo he runs to his Elmo toy. He does that with a few of his toys. He's thick as pig shit too. I'm unimpressed :shrug:
Maybe tonights Horizon (which is what the clip is based on) will add further depth to the story for you.
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Give it up slackers, Wills disproved its newsworthiness by example.
I'm with Will and his gran - unless of course Betsy* can growl "Sausages" or perhaps even "Walls" when prompted.
*Thats the Dog, not Wills gran, who may or may not be called Betsy, or know that Walls are a brand of sausages, or indeed that her own name is/isn't Betsy.
Wills gran cannot lick her own whatnot, i imagine**, and thats what separates us from the animals at the end of the day.
**I don't imagine. I'm certainly not thinking about it right now. Oh god.
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Wills gran cannot lick her own whatnot, i imagine**, and thats what separates us from the animals at the end of the day.
**I don't imagine. I'm certainly not thinking about it right now. Oh god.
Really? (http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/2/Man-Dog-Licks-His-Own-Balls-447865.html#id447865)
Next bit NSFW so be wary of scrolling down
(http://www.suckmydick.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/babe_licking_own_pussy.jpg)(http://www.suckmydick.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/self_suck_01.jpg)
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Didn't realise you'd met.
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Didn't realise you'd met.
Sssh, don't tell Will, he doesn't know yet and we're saving it for the surprise engagement party.
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Its a myth! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8439000.stm)
Men who care about the G-spot are a myth, say experts (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/men-who-care-about-the-g%11spot-are-a-myth%2c-say-experts-201001042346/) :lol:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/g-spot.png)
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Using a mobile phone is now good for you (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Alzheimers-Mobile-Phone-Radiation-Could-Protect-Against-Disease-Suggest-Tests-On-Mice/Article/201001115516004?f=rss)
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Mobiles are also good for you if ordering cocaine w/ one.
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The price of fish.. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100105/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_giant_tuna_sold)
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A bit NSFW? A BIT? I'd hate to see what you consider very NSFW.
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A bit NSFW? A BIT? I'd hate to see what you consider very NSFW.
very NSFW (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs51/f/2009/273/1/1/my_lips_are_closed_by_lauriadverb.jpg) (well you did ask :P)
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Fucking hell Slackers! You'll get me into trouble here with posts like that. Just as I scrolled down our young design engineer (female) wandered into the office!!
:oops:
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Fucking hell Slackers! You'll get me into trouble here with posts like that. Just as I scrolled down our young design engineer (female) wandered into the office!!
:oops:
For future reference...
NSFW == Not Safe For Work
(probably shouldn't have embedded the earlier pics though, so apologies, but there was space between the warning and the pics itself).
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but if the page is logged on the employers cache you're screwed whether you scrolled or not.
Let's all link to the nsfw stuff on it plz...
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Yeah and if you click on last post or whatever then you don't get any "scrolling down" warning. Just a picture of bloke with a cock in his mouth flashing up on your screen!
I thought the king of geekery would have thought that one through. :lol:
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Yeah and if you click on last post or whatever then you don't get any "scrolling down" warning. Just a picture of bloke with a cock in his mouth flashing up on your screen!
I thought the king of geekery would have thought that one through. :lol:
I have my forum settings set so that most recent posts are at the top and (stupidly) thought everyone else would have done.
The setting is under Profile -> Modify Profile -> Look and Layout then tick the box next to "Show most recent posts at the top" if anyone else wants to try it 8)
but if the page is logged on the employers cache you're screwed whether you scrolled or not.
Let's all link to the nsfw stuff on it plz...
Since most will be on managed computers you could make the case that it just "popped up", but I'd agree its probably better to just link to NSFW when referring to them in threads that aren't clearly labelled NSFW (such as the [V NSFW] How Weird are some people? (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10744.0.html) thread.
Apologies again if I've got anyone in trouble, and if a mod can be arsed to change the tags from 'img' to 'url' in the above below post then that would resolve this minor indiscretion.
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Apologies again if I've got anyone in trouble, and if a mod can be arsed to change the tags from 'img' to 'url' in the above below post then that would resolve this minor indiscretion.
I think you should go to prison for this hideous crime :spank:
:lol:
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3 points on your license and.. (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_ODD_SWITZERLAND_HUGE_SPEEDING_FINE?SITE=PASTR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)
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Still peanuts if he's worth 20 mil but a good idea.
This is a good article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/magazine/10FOB-wwln-t.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/magazine/10FOB-wwln-t.html)
The sheer cheek and hypocrisy of bankers trying to tell people that defaulting on a debt is immoral is almost unbelievable, even in America.
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DIY brain surgery (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/China-Tot-Li-Jingchao-Recovering-After-Chopstick-Removed-From-Brain/Article/201001215517072?lpos=World_News_First_Strange_News__Article_Teaser_Region__0&lid=ARTICLE_15517072_China:_Tot_Li_Jingchao_Recovering_After_Chopstick_Removed_From_Brain)
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Swedish cops liberate jealous wife from treehouse (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/08/treehouse_wife/)
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I thought you were allowed to defend yourself (albeit with reasonable force) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8451369.stm)
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It's a white Christmas... (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6073UB20100108)
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It's a white Christmas... (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6073UB20100108)
Read this the other day, he may have a case to make under contract law or something or other (can't remember where I read it, BBC or The Register or something, but can't find the article).
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Do you not think he would be happy with his 31 quid? :lol:
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What a bunch of cunts. Can't be arsed to look it up but aren't winning bets unenforceable or something? I know it sounds stupid but I'm sure I read it somewhere.
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Gambling debts are unenforceable in contract law, and as for the offensive weapon thing above, what fucking retards, the offence needs to be in a public place. :wank:ers
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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150858/Freeze-may-kill-60-000 (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150858/Freeze-may-kill-60-000)
Is the Express the shittest paper in the world?
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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150858/Freeze-may-kill-60-000 (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150858/Freeze-may-kill-60-000)
Is the Express the shittest paper in the world?
No, but its a very close second to the Mail.
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Mail? Express? Mail? Express? Oh, I just can't decide but then I'm a fence sitting, guardian reading, muesli eating pinko.............
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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150858/Freeze-may-kill-60-000 (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150858/Freeze-may-kill-60-000)
Wow - almost the same number of deaths as the second world war???? :o :o
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Only 59,970 odd deaths to go...........................
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Can I sleep with you? (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/11/us/AP-US-ODD-Intruder-in-Bed.html)
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Here kitty... (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60A4Q620100111?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+reuters/oddlyEnoughNews+(News+/+US+/+Oddly+Enough)&utm_content=Google+UK)
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Poor visibility (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Japanese-Woman-Drove-Home-With-Body-Of-Pensioner-Lodged-In-Windscreen/Article/201001215519795?lpos=Strange_News_First_Strange_News__Article_Teaser_Region__0&lid=ARTICLE_15519795_Japanese_Woman_Drove_Home_With_Body_Of_Pensioner_Lodged_In_Windscreen)
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So much for freedom of speech and the right to peaceful protest (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8453560.stm#id8450000/8453600/8453663-audio) :wank:
Yet imposing yourself (as a country) in a foreign country by force is ok, 'cause you're trying to "help" :-\
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Salad Dressing anyone? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8452912.stm)
Sounds like something out of a Sci-Fi novel, be great if its viable :thumbsup:
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Chest drive (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/12/biodynamics_analysis/)
Norton did you try these out before going ahead with the moobs?
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The Beaver (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100112/od_afp/canadamediasexoffbeat_20100112171208)
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Fizzy Phones (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/01/13/nokia_coke_phone_pantech/) 8)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/12/men-arrested-after-driving-frozen-canal (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/12/men-arrested-after-driving-frozen-canal)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/12/men-arrested-after-driving-frozen-canal (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/12/men-arrested-after-driving-frozen-canal)
:lol: Twats
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You'd have thought they'd go for something a bit lighter than a 406 estate! knobheads.
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You'd have thought they'd go for something a bit lighter than a 406 estate! knobheads.
Maybe they were trying to spread the weight by using a longer wheelbase?
Either way...TWATS.
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Maybe they were trying to spread the weight by using a longer wheelbase?
Should have used one of these, no fucking class :wank:
(http://www.impressivelimos.com.au/photos/gallery/pink_hummer.jpg) (http://www.limobroker.co.uk/pink-hummer-limo.htm)
EDIT: Shit, just seen this (http://www.limobroker.co.uk/ferrari-limo.htm) on the same site. What a fucking disgrace!
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EDIT: Shit, just seen this (http://www.limobroker.co.uk/ferrari-limo.htm) on the same site. What a fucking disgrace!
How to ruin a perfectly good car :spank: :spank:
Limo's are all wank in my opinion, never been in one and never want to either...
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That is disgraceful, it doesn't even have a bar.
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Watching TV can kill you (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartDiseaseNews/tv-shorten-lifespan/story?id=9534152)
Yet more bollocks statistics..
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World's First Life-Size 'Sexbot' Unveiled (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Life-size-Robotic-Girlfriend-Roxxxy-Is-Unveiled-At-Adult-Entertainment-Show-In-Las-Vegas/Article/201001215519671?f=rss) :lol:
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World's First Life-Size 'Sexbot' Unveiled (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Life-size-Robotic-Girlfriend-Roxxxy-Is-Unveiled-At-Adult-Entertainment-Show-In-Las-Vegas/Article/201001215519671?f=rss) :lol:
sweet, if only I could find a buyer for the wife ;D
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Watching TV can kill you (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartDiseaseNews/tv-shorten-lifespan/story?id=9534152)
Yet more bollocks statistics..
I disagree (there's a surprise)!
The statistics are perfectly valid, what the headline grabbing title on ABC fails to mention is that this is simply one of many factors that contribute to an increased risk of heart-disease. The problem is with how the question is asked. They've taken a complex disorder and asked a very specific question, ignoring all most other factors.
You can read the abstract to the article that they are sensationalising here (http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/CIRCULATIONAHA.109.894824v1?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=dunstan&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT).
It shows that their study cohort is the Australian Diabetes, Obesity and Lifestyle Study, what they're trying to do in this paper is use an indicator of sedantry life style to quantify the increase in risk of dying from heart disease. So from the outset its worth bearing in mind that having diabetes increases your susceptibility to heart diseases. Yes everyone in that cohort will have diabetes, but some may have greater severity than others.
From the abstract you can also see that they adjusted for several co-variates (factors known to affect the outcome)..."age, sex, waist circumference, and exercise."
Now the waist circumference may be taken as a crude indicator of the severity of diabetes, but I don't think thats particularly valid. But what this also fails to account for is the plethora of genetic determinants that are also known to increase an individuals risk of heart disease (of which there are many, see the Online Mendelian Inheritance in Man entry for susceptibility to coronary heart disease (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=607339).
I could go on, but I've got work to do, but its worth bearing in mind that most popular media outlets are particularly poor at presenting scientific results in context. It may well be a poor study design in the first instance, but whats far worse is the way in which this media outlet have reported it. You really can't take such complex problems and simplify them to a few sound bites for consumption by the majority of the population without giving a false impression and loosing context.
Yes scientists have a responsibility to convey the results of their work to the general population in a way that they understand, but mass media also have a responsibility to report news with context and unfortunately the media virtually always fail to do this despite the efforts of researchers to make their work comprehensible to those without the pre-requisite background knowledge.
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The statistics are perfectly valid
All I am going to say is that 95% of statistics are made up and 85% of foreigners come from abroad ;D
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The statistics are perfectly valid
All I am going to say is that 95% of statistics are made up and 85% of foreigners come from abroad ;D
And 100% of mass media reports focus on the 1% of reported statistics that they think will get them the most attention.
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Gay Teen Worried He Might Be Christian (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/gay_teen_worried_he_might_be)
:lol:
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thought everyone might be amused by this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8458462.stm) quote:
"China's internet is open and the Chinese government encourages development of the internet."
You gotta love the chinese sense of humour.
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There's always a way....... (http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-solid-is-great-firewall-of-china.html)
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I predict a riot (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8458822.stm#id8450000/8458800/8458844)
Oxford riot shield sledging police officers (best use of our tax payers money here in England) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iagp9uro0ms#)
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Local Councils in short-sightedness shocker (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8457458.stm)
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News or Ultimate Internet?
Well the Telegraph is renowned for its investigative journalism: http://bit.ly/8cCUGp (http://bit.ly/8cCUGp)
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Watch what you say. (http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/01/web-cop-to-patrol-internet-for-antipolice-comments.html)
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Watch what you say. (http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/01/web-cop-to-patrol-internet-for-antipolice-comments.html)
South Yorkshire Police are a bunch of useless lazy fucking cunts :P
EDIT : In anticipation of SYP following West Midlands Police's waste of money efforts.
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:lol:
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Cat called for jury duty in New York (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/weird/Cat_Called_for_Jury_Duty_All__National_.html)
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No Jokes Allowed (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html)
:wank: Stupid thing to say, but if the police are relying on this sort of evidence to identify potential terrorists then its really a joke. The fact they didn't even understand what Twitter is shows them for the fools they are.
And surely all the online newspapers that are repeating what he typed should be arrested and investigated too!!!
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Alain Robert sets his sights on Dubai (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100117/od_afp/malaysiafrancedubaiclimboffbeat_20100117234720)
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No Jokes Allowed (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html)
:wank: Stupid thing to say, but if the police are relying on this sort of evidence to identify potential terrorists then its really a joke. The fact they didn't even understand what Twitter is shows them for the fools they are.
And surely all the online newspapers that are repeating what he typed should be arrested and investigated too!!!
What an absolute fucking disgrace, who do they have planning operations someone reliant on a zx81 and box set of Dick Barton Special Agent CD's?
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"My biggest fear is to waste my time on earth."
{o,o}
/)__)
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O’RLY? MONSIEUR ROBERT?
You're quite happy to spend it wasting ours instead though, you irritating, jumped-up, media-whoreing cunt. Fuck off NOW!
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Don't hold back now.
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:lol:
I was expecting someone to say something slightly derogatory but BB has exceeded my expectations :dance1:
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"My biggest fear is to waste my time on earth."
{o,o}
/)__)
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O’RLY? MONSIEUR ROBERT?
You're quite happy to spend it wasting ours instead though, you irritating, jumped-up, media-whoreing cunt. Fuck off NOW!
You know you didn't have to waste your time by clicking on it and reading it ;)
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How can I keep my vitriol relevant if I don't know what his latest exploits are?
I love to hate him, I can't help it.
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Linux touch-screen guitar 8) (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/01/19/misa_guitar/)
Misa Digital Guitar Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2eiP12hQQY#)
(Cool for the geek aspect, personally I can't stand Guitar Hero WankerTM)
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http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/fashion/article6991741.ece (http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/fashion/article6991741.ece)
Westhead you old trollop
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No Dogs Allowed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8467255.stm#id8170000/8176800/8176862)
How cool was that?
Shame he got hit, worse still the arsehole driver didn't stop and take responsibility or try and help :wank:
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Yeah I read that in the Metro this morning - it said he had clocked up about 20,000 miles on the bus ;D
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American burglars.. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/19/AR2010011903279.html)
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Gecko hunting (http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKTRE60I2C120100119)
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http://www.breitbart.tv/prison-trend-inmates-tattoo-whites-of-their-eyes/ (http://www.breitbart.tv/prison-trend-inmates-tattoo-whites-of-their-eyes/)
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http://illusion.scene360.com/video/6923/guy-has-glasses-tattooed-on-his-face/ (http://illusion.scene360.com/video/6923/guy-has-glasses-tattooed-on-his-face/)
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Judge shows a bit of common. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/20/appeal-court-frees-man-burglar-attack?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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Airport security failings (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100119/od_afp/slovakiairelandaviationsecurityoffbeat_20100119185536)
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Air France says no to fatties.. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Obese-Flying-Air-France-To-Charge-Overweight-Passengers-For-A-Second-Seat-For-Safety-Reasons/Article/201001315531847?f=rss)
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Judge shows a bit of common. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/20/appeal-court-frees-man-burglar-attack?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
I couldn't disagree more, judge does a Denning and makes a decision based on wholly spurious grounds to satisfy the public mood more like.
Igor has plenty of form for such decisions.
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How many cats can you fit into one room? (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-01-19-cats-aspca-apartment_N.htm?csp=34&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+UsatodaycomOffbeat-TopStories+(News+-+Offbeat+-+Top+Stories)&utm_content=Google+UK)
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One for Sloper...
Children who use text speak have better literacy skills (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/Texting-Children-Learning-Research-Shows-Children-Who-Use-Text-Speak-Have-Better-Literacy-Skills/Article/201001315531673?f=rss)
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I heard the author of the artcile on the radio this monring and she sounded semi literate and then went on to say that there was an inverse relationship between volume of 'texting' and 'outcomes'.
As such she's probably another sociology Dr with no fucking idea about the difference between causality and casual relationships; I'd love to see her research protocol and raw data.
This seems like another second rate academic undertaking meaningless and flawed research and then presenting it in a manner which is not wholly justified; :-\ I wonder if the research was funded by Nokia?
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I heard the author of the artcile on the radio this monring and she sounded semi literate and then went on to say that there was an inverse relationship between volume of 'texting' and 'outcomes'.
TEH LULZZZZZZ
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Localised news this, but Sheffield City Council are bailing out private development business' (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news2/20m-plan-to-rescue-Sheffield.5996411.jp).
What a load of :wank: Wasting money, why wasn't there a contract in place to make the developers obliged to follow through rather than turning round and saying "Sorry we can't afford this now". They committed to developing the area and have now changed their mind.
Besides which, if the council really want to regenerate the city centre, then they should remove the eyesore that is Meadowhell.
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The simple fact is that there's no way to force a company into following through with a development when they've run out of money. The company would just fold leaving the city in a fucking mess and the project would have to be restarted at some point in the future (who knows when!) provided someone was willing to take it on. I can't think of a way that the council could have put any provisos in place to prevent this being a possibility. This is
crime business after all.
Meanwhile the city rots costing the council a fortune in upkeep and lost rates and costing the city's economy millions. The net cost to the council of this bailout will be nil as the money is a loan and will be repaid with interest.
I think the council have done the right thing for the benefit of the city although I agree that it shouldn't have had to.
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Fair-do's it still sucks though.
Sheffield seem to be hot on loans, aren't the council still paying off shit loads for hosting the student games? And now we're likely to be a host city for some football event that might or might not be in the UK in a few years, wonder how much more debt and interest that will add to the councils burgeoning debt?
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England wont get the World Cup but if they did it would be a massive boost for Sheffield's economy. Bear in mind that the stadia are already in place so it wouldn't cost stupid money to tart them up etc.
The student games is often slagged off but didn't it mean that the city ended up with some great facilities (Ponds Forge I think) and that a lot of the shit flats at Hyde Park were done up? I'm not sure about this as it was before I moved here but I know there are two sides to the story.
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England wont get the World Cup but if they did it would be a massive boost for Sheffield's economy. Bear in mind that the stadia are already in place so it wouldn't cost stupid money to tart them up etc.
Yeah, but the roads (or at least the arteries that lead to the stadium) would need to be up to scratch by then, and despite the EU grant there ain't a lot of road work being done (and that which is is on the main roads first, which to my mind seems disingenious, as by the time they've then finished off the quieter, more minor roads these main ones will have had a trashing and be ready for renewal and its like painting the Forth bridge).
Any boost would only be temporary anyway, after the event leaves there would be a load of hotels that wouldn't get used. And I thought it was only Hillsborough that had the capacity to host any matches?
(Should probably point out I'm not a fan of football, or the fanaticism of many of the supporters, shouting at TV screens in pubs does not make any difference but does ruin the atmosphere of the venue).
The student games is often slagged off but didn't it mean that the city ended up with some great facilities (Ponds Forge I think) and that a lot of the shit flats at Hyde Park were done up? I'm not sure about this as it was before I moved here but I know there are two sides to the story.
The shit flats at Hyde Park are still shit (I live by them and have been in them in the past, they're really no different to those at Park Hill, just less of an eyesore 'cause they stuck some plastic on the outside, although even thats debatable).
A lot of the facilities that were built are still being paid off because they've been remortgaged a couple of times (apparently (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?s=6379a08fb75ca0ddbef9189f4cd031ab&p=5837488&postcount=85)).
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Student games means we've got an arena and don valley though, without which its debatable whether we'd have ended up with the stuff we've had recently like the EIS and Ice Sheffield. Not to mention the steelers wouldn't exist if the arena hadn't been built.
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And where would U2 play? Oh, hang on..........
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Sheffield's boasting quite a few world champions these days, and we're in with a good chance of medals at the winter games too from athletes who train in the city.
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Hot chilli hospitalises kids (http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/100120/K012004AU.html)
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Hot chilli hospitalises kids (http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/100120/K012004AU.html)
Pah, thats week at ~500,000 scovilles! And since when has Tabasco been the "normal" chilli strength :shrug:
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Hot chilli hospitalises kids (http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/100120/K012004AU.html)
Pah, thats week at ~500,000 scovilles! And since when has Tabasco been the "normal" chilli strength :shrug:
I think I'm addicted to tabasco... I recon they pump it full of crack..
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Too vinegary for my liking these days. Cholula is a great, fruity alternative.
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Pah, thats week at ~500,000 scovilles! And since when has Tabasco been the "normal" chilli strength :shrug:
I'm actually allergic to chilli so I can't say anything :lol:
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can you actually damage yourself eating hot chilis then, or were those lads just enrolling themselves in the Gritstone Association of Yeomanry Showponies?
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Probably the latter like me Dave. Big pansy that I am..
Saw this in the metro this morning:
Over a quarter of kids think bacon comes from sheep (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Baa-Howlers-Children-Who-Think-Bacon-Comes-From-Sheep-And-Oats-Grown-On-Trees/Article/201001315531961?lpos=Strange_News_First_Strange_News__Article_Teaser_Region__2&lid=ARTICLE_15531961_Baa_Howlers!_Children_Who_Think_Bacon_Comes_From_Sheep_And_Oats_Grown_On_Trees)
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Sorry the "you" in my last post was the royal "you", i.e. "a person", not specifically you.
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Don't worry - I knew that's what you meant Dave :)
I was just getting in first before someone else called me a big girl (cos I am). But I'm not into fisting despite what saltbeef thinks :whistle:
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can you actually damage yourself eating hot chilis then, or were those lads just enrolling themselves in the Gritstone Association of Yeomanry Showponies?
Not sure, the active ingredient is capsaicin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsaicin) and thats whats used in pepper sprays, which is supposedly used 'cause it doesn't cause any long term damage. Pepper spary (and indeed the burn from strong chillies) hurts because this binds to nerve endings and stimulates the nerve, simulating pain, but it doesn't actually cause any damage (see the Mechanism of action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsaicin#Mechanism_of_action) section).
So whilst it is really uncomfortable and indeed painful you're unlikely to actually damage yourself (I've been trying, but have not tested pepper spray in the eyes, and have absolutely no desire to try!).
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China disqualifies marathon cheats (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100122/sp_wl_afp/chinamarathonoffbeat_20100122070547)
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Sick bitch should be hung
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8473949.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8473949.stm)
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Sick bitch should be hung
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8473949.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8473949.stm)
:agree: clocked that earlier.
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Be careful taking pictures in Uzbekistan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8473285.stm)
What a load of nonce sense.
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Night out goes from bad to worse. (http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/morecambe-news/Man-dressed-as-Grim-Reaper.3601130.jp)
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:lol:
As the tale was being outlined by prosecutor Peter Bardsley at Lancaster Magistrates' Court on Friday, one probation service officer had to leave the courtroom in a fit of laughter.
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Night out goes from bad to worse. (http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/morecambe-news/Man-dressed-as-Grim-Reaper.3601130.jp)
genius.
There he went in various rooms, took a camera and a mobile phone which he tried to use to call his friends.
I'd have loved to have seen him trying to get decent reception with a camera, then dialing someone on the number "play ISO delete menu flash flash flash".
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Unfortunate or ironic choice of headline:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/24/stop-and-search-operation-blunt (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/24/stop-and-search-operation-blunt)
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MusicDNA (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8478310.stm) 8)
Aping about (http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm#id8470000/8473200/8473203)
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iTunes and App store run at a loss (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/26/app_store/)
Just a lure for the fanboi's to buy more (expensive) gadgets. :lol:
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Isn't that just the business model? The same principle as VHS vs Betamax, except here the competition isn't really superior.
With Apple you've always paid more for hardware but benefited from proper customer service. Kind of the opposite to Linux, where you pay nothing and get nothing.
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Indeed. I think Apple are really struggling: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8479912.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8479912.stm)
Likes of Amazon etc were run at a loss for years too, I think.
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Isn't that just the business model? The same principle as VHS vs Betamax, except here the competition isn't really superior.
Could well be I've never investigated their business model. Might explain why record companies don't like iTunes though (i.e. they can't compete and have to sell at Apple's prices).
Kind of the opposite to Linux, where you pay nothing and get nothing.
Actually thats a common misconception and not really the model employed by most Open-Source software business'.
Taking the GNU/Linux distribution Fedora (http://fedoraproject.org/) as an example they give away their product (the distribution) for free. Users can then explicitly pay for support for a given period.
Another example is the guy who started off the FOSS movement, Richard Stallman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman), who set out to develop a POSIX compliant free and open source operating system (known as Hurd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd)), various compilers (GCC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_Collection)) and a text editor (Emacs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs).
Stallmans approach was flexible, if someone liked his product but told him that it was lacking a few features that they wanted, he would offer to develop and incorporate those features for a fee (often in preference over the features he felt were important), but because the GPL (http://) applied to the software the improvements would then be available to all who used the software, so everyone benefited. :thumbsup:
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Super Mario in Playstation row (http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKTRE60O32C20100125)
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My left foot (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/peru/7075252/Doctors-amputate-wrong-foot-of-Peruvian-man.html)
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Super Mario in Playstation row (http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKTRE60O32C20100125)
"Mario is obsessed. He's forever playing on his PlayStation, and we bought him FIFA 2009 because we didn't want him playing violent games," his mother told Il Corriere.
Hope they savour the irony.
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Totally random and odd....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gizmo/2820404/Watch-funny-vid-as-girl-claims-she-wants-to-wed-laptop.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gizmo/2820404/Watch-funny-vid-as-girl-claims-she-wants-to-wed-laptop.html)
:-\
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Totally random and odd fictional....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gizmo/2820404/Watch-funny-vid-as-girl-claims-she-wants-to-wed-laptop.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gizmo/2820404/Watch-funny-vid-as-girl-claims-she-wants-to-wed-laptop.html)
:-\
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Totally random and odd shameless self promotion....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gizmo/2820404/Watch-funny-vid-as-girl-claims-she-wants-to-wed-laptop.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gizmo/2820404/Watch-funny-vid-as-girl-claims-she-wants-to-wed-laptop.html)
:-\
;)
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Totally random and odd shameless self promotion....
Exactly what I thought!
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Terrorists with hair dryers (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/TV-Presenters-Anna-Williamson-And-Jamie-Rickers-Held-By-Police-Under-Under-Anti-Terror-Powers/Article/201001415536056?f=rss)
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Totally random and odd shameless self promotion....
Exactly what I thought!
A bit of googling confirms it. Check out this article (http://davidlanger.co.uk/2008/11/02/tycoons-of-tomorrow-2-hermione-way-2/) and the comments and then this "article" (http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/01/14/anonymous-troll-commenter-revealed/) and the comments.
I'm so glad I don't live in London. ;)
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A bit of googling confirms it. Check out this article (http://davidlanger.co.uk/2008/11/02/tycoons-of-tomorrow-2-hermione-way-2/) and the comments and then this "article" (http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/01/14/anonymous-troll-commenter-revealed/) and the comments.
I'm so glad I don't live in London. ;)
Put in her place :lol:
Face it luv, you'll be a blogger and nothing but when you're 30. Tycoon my arse
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UK ID card scheme doing well... (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/26/id_cards_rate/)
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poisonous one-eyed cock: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8462717.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8462717.stm)
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Another example of why he should be allowed to air his views. :wank:
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The arse covering fuck fest continues .....
http://uknews.yahoo.com/22/20100127/tuk-uk-britain-golsmith-fa6b408.html (http://uknews.yahoo.com/22/20100127/tuk-uk-britain-golsmith-fa6b408.html)
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100127/tuk-uk-britain-iraq-goldsmith-fa6b408.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100127/tuk-uk-britain-iraq-goldsmith-fa6b408.html)
There you go mate. :)
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Cheers mate ..... :)
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In related news......
Least obvious cover up operation ever. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/25/david-kelly-suicide-hutton-inquiry) Nothing to see here, move along (for 70 years) etc......... :whistle:
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How not to de-ice your car (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE60Q4D220100127)
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How not to de-ice your car (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE60Q4D220100127)
I see dave graham is moonlighting for reuters - shouldn't he be out crushing with chad "i'm chad greedy" greedy?
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Tesco bans shopping in pyjamas... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8484116.stm#id8480000/8485500/8485559-audio)
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Tesco bans shopping in pyjamas... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8484116.stm#id8480000/8485500/8485559-audio)
perhaps better headlined as "lazy bitch so desperate to expose her kids to fag smoke that she couldn't even be bothered to chuck on a white umbro tracksuit before going outside".
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:lol:
Does anyone know someone who has been shopping in pyjamas?
I have seen people wearing slippers and thought you freak WTF, but not pyjamas...
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Puts on her best pyjamas to go to Tesco
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol:
Does anyone know someone who has been shopping in pyjamas?
I have seen people wearing slippers and thought you freak WTF, but not pyjamas...
There was a pub in Tregaron (FFS, whats the name,..,.) where I've seen one of the regulars at the end of the bar in his PJ's dressing gown and slippers. He was having trouble getting to sleep so he popped in for a cheeky one :)
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Tesco bans shopping in pyjamas... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8484116.stm#id8480000/8485500/8485559-audio)
What time of day was this?
"It was like 10:30 11:00 o'clock in the morning, it was early in the morning like"
Err no, if thats the time it means the morning is almost over you lazy slag! :spank:
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He was having trouble getting to sleep so he popped in for a cheeky one :)
I bet because it was a pub that nobody gave a shit? alcohol + strange = ok
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Spot the difference:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47200000/jpg/_47200896_elaine_carmody_bbc.jpg) (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01153/arts-graphics-2004_1153810a.jpg)
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It took me a minute or so, but I reckon the right one is at Morrisons (with a side flash strobe or something)?
Am I right?
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Dog hot pot law causes controversy (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE60Q23020100127)
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No Shit Sherlock. (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/gmc+mmr+doctor+aposabused+position+of+trustapos/3519237)
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Spot the difference:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47200000/jpg/_47200896_elaine_carmody_bbc.jpg) (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01153/arts-graphics-2004_1153810a.jpg)
I am SMOKING a FAG!
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No Shit Sherlock. (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/gmc+mmr+doctor+aposabused+position+of+trustapos/3519237)
Yes - this really should be getting bigger headlines. The guys a :wank:
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What a total cunt.
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4chan v Youtube
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/jan/06/youtube-pr0n-attack-4chan-lukeywes1234 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/jan/06/youtube-pr0n-attack-4chan-lukeywes1234)
Change the url to p o r n instead of pr0n.
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I know this type of story is not entirely uncommon but this guy has raised the bar of stupidity by having Kaka's name tattooed as well.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1190839_robinho_leaves_tattooed_city_fan_blue (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1190839_robinho_leaves_tattooed_city_fan_blue)
The most worrying aspect is his professed desire to have kids!
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Awesome stupidity!
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104mph in a 50 zone? Fucking footballers! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8486666.stm)
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Not just any footballer. Cashley - Sporting Cunt of The Decade 2000 - 2009. Nice to see he's keeping his standards up.
A £15 victim surcharge and £300 costs were added by the panel to "reflect his income".
A request that Cole be allowed 21 days to pay was greeted with laughter by magistrates, who granted it nonetheless.
That is a fucking joke. In what way does and extra £315 reflect the fact that he earns over five million pounds a year?
The player has immediately launched an appeal against the ban, which will be heard later.
Hope they bump the sentence up.
CUNT!!!
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I know this type of story is not entirely uncommon but this guy has raised the bar of stupidity by having Kaka's name tattooed as well.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1190839_robinho_leaves_tattooed_city_fan_blue (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1190839_robinho_leaves_tattooed_city_fan_blue)
The most worrying aspect is his professed desire to have kids!
I think I may have posted this before but anyway...
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1396/eeverton11ub4.jpg)
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And any child named Kaka is unlikely to have the piss taken out of him. I would laugh my ass off if he had two girls.
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'Dad's Army' promotes violence on Ebay (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Swastika-EBay-Row-Auction-Site-Bans-Racist-Dads-Army-Board-Game-Before-Backing-Down/Article/201001415538023?f=rss)
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Christ he got an easy ride here, didn't he?
BBC News - Iraq inquiry hears defiant Blair say: I'd do it again (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm#id8480000/8488400/8488465)
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Fucking ugly house
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47210000/jpg/_47210726_masons_beesley_barn_09.jpg)
However I've just worked out a way of building whatever you want to without getting proper planning permission. Get PP for a mahussive barn, build it, and make it look like it's properly a barn, then build your fuck-knows-what inside. After "4 years" tear down the barn, and laugh your little socks off! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8487326.stm)
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Christ he got an easy ride here, didn't he?
BBC News - Iraq inquiry hears defiant Blair say: I'd do it again (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm#id8480000/8488400/8488465)
Too fucking right he did ..... I was hoping he was going to play the 'God told me do it ' card when put under pressure ......But every time he got a bit of a sweat on they eased off ...... :spank:
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Pyjama-wearing mother barred from shopping at Tesco.....
BBC News - Pyjama-wearing mother barred from shopping at Tesco (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8485559.stm#id8480000/8485500/8485559-audio)
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Pyjama-wearing mother barred from shopping at Tesco.....
BBC News - Pyjama-wearing mother barred from shopping at Tesco (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8485559.stm#id8480000/8485500/8485559-audio)
Check a bit higher up ;)
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Branding ban on fags? (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6105DK20100201)
I'll have 20 of the ones in the white box please..
(http://onthebutton.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/cigarettes_future_packs.jpg)
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Christ he got an easy ride here, didn't he?
BBC News - Iraq inquiry hears defiant Blair say: I'd do it again (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm#id8480000/8488400/8488465)
Too fucking right he did ..... I was hoping he was going to play the 'God told me do it ' card when put under pressure ......But every time he got a bit of a sweat on they eased off ...... :spank:
What did you expect though? It's all a fucking farce.
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Post clubbing snacks - ambient sausage rolls (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ambient-sausage-rolls-an-error-1885669.html)
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More fags - exploding ones this time (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Exploding-Cigarette-In-Indonesia-Andi-Susanto-Loses-Six-Teeth-In-Blast-In-Bekasi-Near-Jakarta/Article/201002115540698?f=rss)
Mr Warsianto said the company assisted with the medical bill as a form of sympathy to "a loyal customer".
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Irish confused by sun. (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/huge-blazing-fireball-sighted-in-sky-above-ireland-14665311.html)
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Pheasent plucking anyone? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8498444.stm#id8490000/8498800/8498852)
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Not really news should probably be in games but it's from a news site so it's here http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/ibailout_pocket_activism_report_20100204/ (http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/ibailout_pocket_activism_report_20100204/)
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/tea-party-bash-stirs-up-trouble-among-activists-20100205-nim4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/world/tea-party-bash-stirs-up-trouble-among-activists-20100205-nim4.html)
Only posted it for the name of the venue (third paragraph.)
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The old blue eyes of a killer (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/world/asia/07karaoke.html?th&emc=th)
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/tea-party-bash-stirs-up-trouble-among-activists-20100205-nim4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/world/tea-party-bash-stirs-up-trouble-among-activists-20100205-nim4.html)
Only posted it for the name of the venue (third paragraph.)
Fine old American name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_K._Gaylord).
Nowt wrong with that.
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*Chortle, Titter etc* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord_College_of_Journalism_and_Mass_Communication)
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There are some things money can't buy. For everything else there's Mastercard... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100208/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_crack_credit_card)
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Keeping it in the family? (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-Girl-12-Fights-To-Divorce-Husband-80-In-Legal-Test-Case/Article/201002215545298?f=rss)
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Gurgle gurgle, single to city centre please, gurgle, bubble, gurgle (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8506154.stm#id8500000/8506100/8506154)
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Things might change (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8505255.stm#id8500000/8507200/8507235)
Brilliant to finally potentially have a referendum on how the voting system works. The "alternative" needs greater explanation though.
Lets just hope it happens actually happens.
More importantly....
Thank fuck for that (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8508237.stm) (I dread to think what will replace my wife's casual viewing though :()
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Google adds winter olympic ski slopes to street view (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Google-Unveils-Virtual-Panoramas-Of-Ski-Runs-At-The-2010-Winter-Olympics/Article/201002215545940?f=rss)
EDIT: Here's the link for anyone that can't be bothered reading the news article:
http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/games10/index.html (http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/games10/index.html)
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Google adds winter olympic ski slopes to street view (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Google-Unveils-Virtual-Panoramas-Of-Ski-Runs-At-The-2010-Winter-Olympics/Article/201002215545940?f=rss)
EDIT: Here's the link for anyone that can't be bothered reading the news article:
http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/games10/index.html (http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/games10/index.html)
I hope they get some decent snow fall soon, otherwise the winter olympics will be fucking shit!
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http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/tony_collins/2010/02/an-extraordinary-story-as-told.html (http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/tony_collins/2010/02/an-extraordinary-story-as-told.html)
Fascinating and disgraceful. This just goes to show that it really doesn't matter which bunch of cunts are at the helm. The whole system needs to be fundamentally changed and that aint a job for that wet fuck Cameron.
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I hope they get some decent snow fall soon, otherwise the winter olympics will be fucking shit!
Indeed - I'm looking forward to see how that Ethiopian skier (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61612620100208) does, good luck to him!
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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Cop-Accused-of-Sodomizing-Man-With-Baton-I-Didnt-Do-It-84142827.html (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Cop-Accused-of-Sodomizing-Man-With-Baton-I-Didnt-Do-It-84142827.html)
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Chiiie (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8511910.stm)
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I'd take a police baton up the arse for $44 million no bugger it I'd take two!
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I thought the frisbee (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8512198.stm) was invented by MJ Fox in Back to the Future III
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I thought the frisbee (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8512198.stm) was invented by MJ Fox in Back to the Future III
Thats a shame, I love playing frisbee, great fun, the best are Aerobie Superdiscs, really nice to play with.
The Lawyer (or the Journalist) need to go back to geography school though...
Lawyer Kay McIff, who represented Mr Morrison in a royalties case, said: "That simple little toy has permeated every continent in every country.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/11/geoff-hoon-standing-down-election (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/11/geoff-hoon-standing-down-election)
Fuckin' good riddance, talentless, duplicitous, amoral cunt................
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laughing all the way to the...................
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/12/barclays-cuts-bonuses-bob-diamond (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/12/barclays-cuts-bonuses-bob-diamond)
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Scouser cops go hi-tech.. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Police-Spy-Drone-In-Merseyside-Makes-Its-First-Arrest-Using-Thermal-Imagine-Equipment/Article/201002215547615?f=rss)
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Tiger training (video) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8508623.stm#id8500000/8508600/8508623)
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[noembed]Unfortunately worded headline. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8515009.stm#id8510000/8515100/8515198)[/noembed]
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Big waves cause problems at surfing contest (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Spectators-Injured-As-Huge-Waves-Hit-Mavericks-Surfing-Competition-In-California/Article/201002215548707?f=rss)
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Couldn't decide whether to put this here or in Magpie's thread.
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F1%2Fhi%2Fscotland%2Fedinburgh_and_east%2F8517727.stm&h=1e412be389103b0bdc2e4188513c2518 (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F1%2Fhi%2Fscotland%2Fedinburgh_and_east%2F8517727.stm&h=1e412be389103b0bdc2e4188513c2518)
I like the way that they make out that the cat knew exactly where it was going despite the fact that:
a) It's a cat
b) It has a can on its head.
c) It's a cat with a can on its head.
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Couldn't decide whether to put this here or in Magpie's thread.
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F1%2Fhi%2Fscotland%2Fedinburgh_and_east%2F8517727.stm&h=1e412be389103b0bdc2e4188513c2518 (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F1%2Fhi%2Fscotland%2Fedinburgh_and_east%2F8517727.stm&h=1e412be389103b0bdc2e4188513c2518)
Try this non-farcebook embedded link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8517727.stm)
I like the way that they make out that the cat knew exactly where it was going despite the fact that:
a) It's a cat
b) It has a can on its head.
c) It's a cat with a can on its head.
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Couldn't decide whether to put this here or in Magpie's thread.
Genius quote under the photo:
It is thought the cat may have been scavenging for food when it became stuck in the empty pet food can
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Tesco in "are cunts" shocker. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/12/tesco-asda-supermarkets-prices)
From @jim_p_thompson on Twitter.
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See-Saw Marjorie Daw, Johnny shall have a new master (http://www.seesaw.com/)
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Tesco in "are cunts" shocker. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/12/tesco-asda-supermarkets-prices)
From @jim_p_thompson on Twitter.
Not disagreeing with the fact that large supermarkets have despicable policies, but I really can't see the problem here.
Holiday prices are artificially inflated in periods where demand increases (i.e. school holidays).
Under a free market shops can choose to charge what they want, if a customer thinks they're being ripped off at that price they can go elsewhere to buy it, irrespective of how much extra effort it is. Each individual will (or should) weigh up the convenience of purchasing at a higher price against having to go elsewhere. Its why a pint of milk is more at your local corner shop than it is at a supermarket, convenience.
It doesn't help that everywhere has continual/perpetual "Offers" or "Promotions" on giving the impression that items are cheaper than their RRP.
Besides which the price on the shelf isn't fixed in stone anyway. Technically its an offer to sell the item at that price and a customer is well within their rights to haggle (not that I've ever bothered to haggle over the price of a packet of Walkers Sensations, but if I thought it were too high I'd walk away).
As for the stuff about loyalty cards tracking purchasing habits and being used by the supermarkets.... :o really I'd never have imagined that they could be so unscrupulous! Anyone who thinks they're getting something for nothing with one of these is a fool, its all factored into the cost of what you're buying anyway.
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Very true. But Tesco are still cunts.
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Readers Digest are insolvent, shame. Err no not really.
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Very true. But Tesco are still cunts.
Yep, they are indeed...
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2632/3700309419_59de6482df.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slackline/3700309419/)
Fortunately the cunts don't always get their way (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8139521.stm)
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Readers Digest are insolvent, shame. Err no not really.
Bugger, I was about to win a hundred thousand pounds in their sweepstake.
Must have spent all their money on stupid direct mailing.
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It's a pension fund deficit that's fucked em.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/17/readers-digest-publisher-administration?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/17/readers-digest-publisher-administration?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
I got one of their "YOU MIGHT HAVE WON" letters the other day. They really do go to a lot of trouble don't they? Such a waste of paper but at least I recycle.
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http://music.aol.co.uk/music-news/liam-gallaghers-brits-brother-snub/article/20100216175238175894870?rsp=Music%20News (http://music.aol.co.uk/music-news/liam-gallaghers-brits-brother-snub/article/20100216175238175894870?rsp=Music%20News)
As Peter Kaye said - what a dickhead.
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Topically, he just posted this on Twitter.... (http://twitter.com/liamgallagher)
Regarding Peter Kay's comment...
Listen up fat fuck as a real northerner I was brought up 2 say shit 2 people's faces not behind their back. Live forever LG
He is a twat but he still makes me laugh.
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What a fucking twat. You'd love to accidentally back your car into that cunt's shins.
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Noel's quote about him just before Oasis split up sums him up perfectly I reckon:
“He’s never seen my little lad, just pictures,” Noel said of his brother.
“To a stranger it sounds ludicrous, but you wouldn’t have him in the house if he spoke to you the way he speaks to me and my family.
“He’s rude, arrogant, intimidating and lazy. He’s the angriest man you’ll ever meet. He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”
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More
tea potatoes Vicar? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3330057/Vicar-went-to-hospital-with-potato-stuck-in-bottom.html) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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More tea potatoes Vicar? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3330057/Vicar-went-to-hospital-with-potato-stuck-in-bottom.html) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
HA HA! I can't believe he went for the old "I was hanging curtains while naked and fell onto the potato" excuse. Brilliant.
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What's your current fave? I nipped down to the fridge in the middle of the night and decided to do some naked dead hanging on the finger board when I got a flash pumped and slipped and landed on the <item> :oops:
Seriously though, isn't this a bit of a breach of patient confidentiality?
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It'd take a big man indeed indeed to strut into A&E in a dog collar and cassock and say "check it out I've been bumming myself with a kind edwards".
I'd have gone for "I was just putting the recyling out in my dressing gown when a 24hour potato delivery van backed into my front garden wall, pelting me with a ton of spuds - I naturally ducked for cover, and what you see here is the unfortunate side effect of that course of action".
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The chances are that they wouldn't believe he was a vicar so it would be a good double bluff.
But then again I'm sure Edward is kind enough not to get stuck.
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Seriously though, isn't this a bit of a breach of patient confidentiality?
Dunno, could you identify him based on "vicar/clergyman in his 50s"? If he can't be identified then his confidentiality hasn't been breached (IMO).
I guess if he had a bit of a bandy legged swagger when walking it might give it away.
The story date from October 2008 too so its a bit old.
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Just out of interest, what were you googling to stumble upon that story?
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There are some questions that are better left unasked.
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Just out of interest, what were you googling to stumble upon that story?
Someone else sent me a link to it, honest Guv'nor. :)
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Another cat food story (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Italian-TV-Chef-Beppe-Bigazzi-Suspended-From-Ready-Steady-Cook-Type-Show-Over-Cat-Meat/Article/201002315550986?f=rss)
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Russian hacker brightens people's journey. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/17/big_screen_entertainment/)
Video here (NSFW)...
http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/moscow-billboard-pr0n-causes-traffic-jam-nsfw/comment-page-1/ (http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/moscow-billboard-pr0n-causes-traffic-jam-nsfw/comment-page-1/)
...and you have to change pr0n to p o r n in the link.
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;D :lol: Brilliant!
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http://existenz.se/out.php?id=19405 (http://existenz.se/out.php?id=19405)
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http://existenz.se/out.php?id=19405 (http://existenz.se/out.php?id=19405)
:o Not for the faint hearted!
(Possibly NSFW either, depending on what your works IT policy is)
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Now I'm no big fan of Gordon Brown but what's been going on in the last few days has been a fucking disgrace. Basically a smear campaign with zero evidence in which the "National Bullying Helpline" has been quoted extensively by opposition politicians and journalists alike without anyone actually confirming what it is.
Well it turns out it's this:
http://thebullyinghelpline.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-not-to-ask-for-independent.html (http://thebullyinghelpline.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-not-to-ask-for-independent.html)
In other words, if you call the National Bullying Helpline for help, because you believe you're being bullied at work, and you follow their advice, they might tell your employer that you are the bully, call your grievance vexatious, and leave you in a worse position than when you started, with no comeback at all.
David Cameron et al.......
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2009/07/22/eggonface_1.jpg)
Does this really sound like a trustworthy source!? FFS.
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More info and links from Goldacre.....
http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/the-national-bullying-helpline-look-dodgy-to# (http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/the-national-bullying-helpline-look-dodgy-to#)
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Just your average holiday (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L4GY20100222?)
"The most expensive package includes a massage, which takes place on a special rug laid out at a place with the view of the Charles Bridge. We light candles and incense sticks, lay down the plush toy on its back and Mr. Hlavka starts the massage," Okamura said.
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Amazing. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/233844)
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Interesting. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/233207)
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Amusing (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8529956.stm)
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This woman is a fucking disgrace.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/national-bullying-helpline-suspended (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/national-bullying-helpline-suspended)
If anyone's interested then the links I posted above show how this whole "charity" is a con created to get work for her HR company.
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Absolutely, a less than wholly honest attempt to gain some free pr has, well not just backfired but spectacularly so. As for the allegations that she's a tory stooge, she could quite equally be a new labour stooge as well, knowing that her 'outing' will lead to a real deflection of the story.
That however shouldn't detract from the core allegation that Brown is a bully and even Ed Balls accepts that Rawnsley's account reflects the 'narrative truth'.
Remember Brown went on the record to say that he'd never allowed briefing against other miniters?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/gordon-brown-alistair-darling (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/gordon-brown-alistair-darling)
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http://www.capetimes.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn20100205043139311C779756 (http://www.capetimes.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn20100205043139311C779756)
Bummer. Wonder if any WAGs will want to go on a nature walk?
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Evicted for bad taste in music
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8537669.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8537669.stm)
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Evicted for bad taste in music
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8537669.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8537669.stm)
Slamming doors I could put up with, but Cheryl Cole at 04:00.....I say justice has been served! :P
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Yeah Ashley Cole must be relieved.
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She'd be welcome round mine at 4 am. Proveided she diden't sing leik man pet.
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Bugger this (http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpps/news/dpgonc-two-men-face-court-for-goat-sex-owner-demands-wedding-fc-20100226_6296237)
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Its the
naughty Mozart corner for you (http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/weoponizing-mozart/)
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Its the naughty Mozart corner for you (http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/weoponizing-mozart/)
Bad shit.
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^ You're fucked ;D
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Whats the problem? The same tactic is employed effectively by hundreds of shops and shopping centres (and radio stations come to that) across the country which play bland/crap/wank chart and RnB shit and its exceptionally effective at keeping me out.
As for the Clockwork Orange link, if I remember correctly (and its been years since I read the book) the choice of music was influenced by the fact that Alex liked classical music in the first place. So its a poor analogy as they were using something the criminal liked as punishment for his crimes and not trying to use "culture" as a weapon as the article suggests.
Crap write-up too, it states "endure two hours of classical music", and states a reduction of 60%. Yet the article it cites/links to states one hour of classical music followed by a maths DVD and a half-hour write-up of what they've learnt and that this has reduced trouble by 50% (http://www.classissima.com/eng/news/113683-Bach-to-basics-regime-deters-school-troublemakers/) (the misquoted 60% is probably because straight afterwards it states that "upto 60 pupils").
I think the twat who wrote that article should be made to sit and listen to Mozart for a couple of hours whilst writing out lines stating "I must read properly things I am going to write about".
There seems scant evidence that its pruposefully being employed as a tactic to deter yoof's. There is some evidence from studies (http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=classical+music+relaxing) that classical music can be relaxing, and it could just be the choice of music that happens to have been selected for bus-shelters and other places. The fact that the speakers are vandal proof does nothing to support the notion that this is to protect against the agression directed at them by classicaly-enraged yoof's, they'd have to be anyway, as anything and everything is fair game to be vandalised.
I don't agree with the Mosquito alarms though, as they do definitely target a specific demography and are completely indiscriminate.
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Whats the problem? The same tactic is employed effectively by hundreds of shops and shopping centres (and radio stations come to that) across the country which play bland/crap/wank chart and RnB shit and its exceptionally effective at keeping me out.
As for the Clockwork Orange link, if I remember correctly (and its been years since I read the book) the choice of music was influenced by the fact that Alex liked classical music in the first place. So its a poor analogy as they were using something the criminal liked as punishment for his crimes and not trying to use "culture" as a weapon as the article suggests.
Crap write-up too, it states "endure two hours of classical music", and states a reduction of 60%. Yet the article it cites/links to states one hour of classical music followed by a maths DVD and a half-hour write-up of what they've learnt and that this has reduced trouble by 50% (http://www.classissima.com/eng/news/113683-Bach-to-basics-regime-deters-school-troublemakers/) (the misquoted 60% is probably because straight afterwards it states that "upto 60 pupils").
I think the twat who wrote that article should be made to sit and listen to Mozart for a couple of hours whilst writing out lines stating "I must read properly things I am going to write about".
There seems scant evidence that its pruposefully being employed as a tactic to deter yoof's. There is some evidence from studies (http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=classical+music+relaxing) that classical music can be relaxing, and it could just be the choice of music that happens to have been selected for bus-shelters and other places. The fact that the speakers are vandal proof does nothing to support the notion that this is to protect against the agression directed at them by classicaly-enraged yoof's, they'd have to be anyway, as anything and everything is fair game to be vandalised.
I don't agree with the Mosquito alarms though, as they do definitely target a specific demography and are completely indiscriminate.
:agree: The article was really badly written. I cannot really take seroiusly someone who has to 'weaponize' in order to sensationalise.... Shops, supermarkets etc.. all use subtleties like music, colour and design to good effect. Supermarkets - seem clean - smell of bread when you walk in - but the light and the colour is designed so you wont want to be there for more than 30-40 min. Look good, get in, get your $$ then f*ck off.
Anyway, seeing as I've been a naughty boy today, I'm off to birch myself and stand in a brighly lit unfurnished room facing the corner listening to craig david for an hour.
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Somewhat self-fulfilling don't you think? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8541939.stm)
Anyone carrying a knife will have turned around and walked the long way round! Is there a concomitant reduction in reported knife crime?
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What a honeymoon! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8546687.stm)
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2876198/Germans-caught-romping-in-road.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2876198/Germans-caught-romping-in-road.html)
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andddd
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2875287/Gorilla-seen-in-Nasa-snap-from-Mars.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2875287/Gorilla-seen-in-Nasa-snap-from-Mars.html) :thumbsup:
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FUCK OFF TESCO. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/03/farmer-norfolk-tesco-waitrose?)
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andddd
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2875287/Gorilla-seen-in-Nasa-snap-from-Mars.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2875287/Gorilla-seen-in-Nasa-snap-from-Mars.html) :thumbsup:
Awesome reporting by The Sun there! :lol:
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Fuck off tesco should be a thread in its own right.
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Insane in da membrane, insane in da brain! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/03/dolphin_incident/)
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Tory sleaze / bullshit rears it's head again.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/03/william-hague-lord-ashcroft-tax-status (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/03/william-hague-lord-ashcroft-tax-status)
Surely Hague must step down now for Cameron to retain any credibility / moral high ground he might think he has?
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Tory sleaze / bullshit rears it's head again.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/03/william-hague-lord-ashcroft-tax-status (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/03/william-hague-lord-ashcroft-tax-status)
Surely Hague must step down now for Cameron to retain any credibility / moral high ground he might think he has?
Yup, this could be interesting, Cameron has made an example of everyone making mistakes before... but this is his RH man... (apart from Osbourne of course who's his LH man)...
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Tory sleaze / bullshit rears it's head again.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/03/william-hague-lord-ashcroft-tax-status (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/03/william-hague-lord-ashcroft-tax-status)
Surely Hague must step down now for Cameron to retain any credibility / moral high ground he might think he has?
Sleaze, ohh come off it, Labour has plenty of dodgy 'non dom' backers one of whom they have elevated to the Privy Council.
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HAHA! Thought that'd get a reaction. This issue isn't the dodgy tax status it's that Hague has been caught lying about it.
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:dance1: Oh, joy, joy, joy. Liar, liar, Haguey's pants on fire..................
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As I understand it Hauge has been caught refusing to confirm or deny, which for a politician is akin to saying that they're still breathing.
How many Labour ministers have had to apologise to Parliament for misleading the house? I can think of about 6 occasions off the top of my head.
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As I understand it Hauge has been caught refusing to confirm or deny, which for a politician is akin to saying that they're still breathing.
How many Labour ministers have had to apologise to Parliament for misleading the house? I can think of about 6 occasions off the top of my head.
La, la, la can't hear you! Hague is a liar har, har, har..........
(Sorry, feeling a tad juvenile this morning.......)
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What about coming out climbing instead?
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What about coming out climbing instead?
Climbing!? What, outside and everything?? :o Are you mad. Until the temperature is the right side of 10 degrees, I'm going nowhere...........
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No need for body scanners? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8548021.stm#id8540000/8548000/8548021)
Two women refused to be scanned in Manchester (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8547416.stm) and unsurprisingly weren't allowed on their flights. :wank:
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I wouldn't mind so much but these scanners have been proven not to work!
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In anticipation of Blair's memoirs....... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/mar/04/tony-blair-memoir-journey-book?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) :lol:
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FUCK OFF TESCO. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/03/farmer-norfolk-tesco-waitrose?)
http://bit.ly/9d7DkB (http://bit.ly/9d7DkB) ;D
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With friends like this, who needs..... :lol:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/7370383/Robert-Mugabe-gives-David-Cameron-election-backing.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/7370383/Robert-Mugabe-gives-David-Cameron-election-backing.html)
A belated Christmas pressie for Brown and the LibDems?
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silly americans http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8551528.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8551528.stm)
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Seriously fucked up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8551122.stm) :thumbsdown:
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Why have a 4x4 mini http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/247405/mini_countryman_official.html (ftp://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/247405/mini_countryman_official.html)?
(http://l.yimg.com/i/ng/sh/carenthu/20100120/11/2941895082-brand-new-mini-4x4-unveiled.jpg?x=566&y=426&q=80&sig=5KUuOUbnkXBBeeIZw_1OPQ--)
:wank:
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Seriously fucked up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8551122.stm) :thumbsdown:
I agree - I've always said online gaming is bad for you!
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Seriously fucked up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8551122.stm) :thumbsdown:
I agree - I've always said online gaming is bad for you!
Police officer Chung Jin-won told Yonhap they "lost their will to live a normal life"
The 41-year-old father and his 25-year-old wife
yeah right!
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tory c@n7s - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation)
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Good news. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7376242/Scientists-discover-way-to-make-alcohol-with-less-severe-hangovers.html) :alky: :alky: :alky:
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tory c@n7s - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation)
They keep trying to hide their true colours but all you have to do is scratch the surface.......
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tory c@n7s - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation)
They keep trying to hide their true colours but all you have to do is scratch the surface.......
i'm amazed this hasn't caused more comment. it is a fucking disgrace.
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tory c@n7s - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/06/tory-madrasa-young-britons-foundation)
They keep trying to hide their true colours but all you have to do is scratch the surface.......
i'm amazed this hasn't caused more comment. it is a fucking disgrace.
:agree: Still the nasty party once you cut through the public relations bullshit........
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Drinking wine is less fattening than drinking mineral water (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7052609.ece) :shrug:
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One hell of an about turn! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8556852.stm) :wank:
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Yeah big deal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8556788.stm#id8550000/8556600/8556665), Mate. I do that on Call of Duty all the time.
You just have to press 'G' really fast.
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How many more cases like this are there I wonder?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8556659.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8556659.stm)
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Aaaah, aaahhha, AaaaaahCHOOOOOOOO!!!
people in card houses shouldn't sneeze (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8559882.stm#id8550000/8559800/8559882)
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This is about as low as it gets.........
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-bail-for-teen-held-over-assault-20100311-q1lq.html?autostart=1 (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-bail-for-teen-held-over-assault-20100311-q1lq.html?autostart=1)
I love the quote from one of these guy's sister that the wheelchair bound man provoked her brother by punching him the face first. Hmmm... really? Did he employ one those boxing-glove-on-spring traps?
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What a pair of cunts :thumbsdown:
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America. Land of the free....... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/11/dave-eggers-zeitoun-hurricane-katrina)
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Feeling stressed - buy a bottle of fresh air (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62B2FO20100312) :shrug:
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Dear god, just make sure you keep it away from your accapi.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/13/cameron-pressure-identify-poverty-bill (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/13/cameron-pressure-identify-poverty-bill)
read and weep.
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So three little Tory boys in a huddle can ruin a supposedly democratic process without even having the balls to stand up and be counted? Our system of governance is fucked. This should be a major news story but will probably be ignored.
Disgusting.
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Yup...I wonder who's pocket they're in...
Scum.
:thumbsdown:
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Le Pain Maudit (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7415082/French-bread-spiked-with-LSD-in-CIA-experiment.html)
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Brilliant. (http://www.badscience.net/2010/03/rentokil/)
Saw this unfolding on Twitter (http://dlvr.it/Cqyn). A stunning example of PR/bullshit gone horribly wrong.
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Stupid twat. (http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/dynamicpanel-stories/2010/03/15/council-housing-boss-revealed-as-nazi-sex-fetishist-82029-26035540/)
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Is he related to Max Moseley?
Either way their both entitled to a private life.
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Is he related to Max Moseley?
Either way their both entitled to a private life.
I wholly disagree, MM is not a politician, this chap is.
What MM was doing was not 'criminal' and had no Nazi connotations.
sending these messages appears from the comments to constitute an offence under the obscene publications act or the relevant communictions act and the actions appear to constitute gross misconduct in terms of his employment.
He deserves and may well enjoy his punishment.
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Sounds more like a civil servant (housing boss) as opposed to politician.
Fair enough on the obscenity front, but that has nothing to do with his job unless he was doing so from work equipment/time, but then everyone sends personal messages or posts on UKB websites from work, or sending/expressing the views at work which isn't even hinted at in the crappy article.
I'm also wary of anything a Mirror journalist describes as "vile", in fact I'm generally not that interested or trust anything much that the Mirror/Sun/Star/News of the World/etc. publish.
Didn't the whole MM thing include in Nazi uniforms :shrug: (paid about as much attention to that as I am likely to this though).
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Yes you're right local govt officer rather than elected.
I think the MM uniforms were generic military and one of the whores talked in (faux) German. The accusations of Nazi connections are the subject of a libel claim (or were it may have settled).
Gross misconduct covers matters outside work.
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No such thing as bad advertising (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8517607.stm) :lol:
By commenting on this irresponsible brewing practice we only serve to add to their marketing and therefore we have no further comment to make.
Fuck me someone actually has a modicum of common sense!
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Fuck me someone actually has a modicum of common sense!
:agree:
£40 quid is also taking the piss
How much of the following could you get......
(http://www.ml6networks.com/blog/blogimages/buckfast.jpg)+(http://www.portman-group.org.uk/assets/images/Tennants-SuperLager.jpg)+(http://alesdistribution.com/images/uploads/Bottled%20Beers/smirnoff-ice.jpg)
Think i'd prefer a turbo shandy. One trick ponies = brewdog
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What a load of cock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8570398.stm)
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Sex Education - Start 'Em Young (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8571798.stm)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/13/cameron-pressure-identify-poverty-bill (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/13/cameron-pressure-identify-poverty-bill)
read and weep.
It was Christopher Chope
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/13/cameron-pressure-identify-poverty-bill (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/13/cameron-pressure-identify-poverty-bill)
read and weep.
It was Christopher Chope
He's a fucking prick........
http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2010/03/16/the-vulture-fund-bill-defending-christopher-chope/ (http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2010/03/16/the-vulture-fund-bill-defending-christopher-chope/)
The title is ironic. Worth reading the comments.
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Sheffield Steel (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/140m-deal-marks-huge-coup.6161863.jp)
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Read some negative spin about this last night. Ignored it, it's very good news for Sheffield.
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Lets preach tolerance (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/Tai-chi-class-falls-foul.6161897.jp) :wank:
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Lord Mandelson visited the premises yesterday....
(http://www.theforce.net/SWTC/Pix/books/scrapbook/impr2unit.jpg)
prick
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Fuck going to Dubai.....ever (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/18/text_dubai_jail/)
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Tiny tragedy. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8569166.stm#id8560000/8569300/8569371)
"For such a small man, he made a huge impact around the world,"
Not sure how to break this to Lee, he will be distraught.
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Fuck going to Dubai.....ever (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/18/text_dubai_jail/)
Oh small beer indeed, mon petit brave
http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/british-woman-leaves-dubai-after-rape-claim-20100204-ne02.html (http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/british-woman-leaves-dubai-after-rape-claim-20100204-ne02.html)
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Can't say I'm a big fan of Rod Liddle but under the circumstances this is worth a repost.....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6716543.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6716543.ece)
....says it all about the vile place really.
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I didn't see her, honest guv (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Lorry-Shunting-Car-Video-Arclid-Launch-Probe-Into-Truck-Pushing-Renault-Clio-Along-A1M-Wetherby/Article/201003315576181?f=rss) :o
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This is how they're doing things (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/boris-johnson-bertha-joseph-london) with a majority in London. Imagine what will happen with a majority in the Commons.......
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Wheeeeeeee! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8543202.stm#id8540000/8543200/8543202)
One for lagers...
starfish (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8572741.stm#id8570000/8572900/8572924)
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New Labour,
New same old Sleaze
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair)
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:jaw: Rather fucking lucky (http://news.bbc.co.uk./1/hi/world/europe/7925009.stm?ls)
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Wasn't that posted on here about a year ago? :-\
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Wasn't that posted on here about a year ago? :-\
Probably, article dated 4th March 2009, might even have been me who posted it :oops:
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New Labour, New same old Sleaze
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair)
Missed this one did you?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/lord-ashcroft-bbc-panorama (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/lord-ashcroft-bbc-panorama)
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Watching this disaster yesterday was pretty funny:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/22/cash-gordon-twitter-tories (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/22/cash-gordon-twitter-tories)
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article7071740.ece (http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article7071740.ece)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4453821027_92d4fb8a93_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/meg/4453821027/sizes/l/)
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Genius, I love it when media types get egg on their face, particularly when they're doing nothing to promote the party that is paying them and instead are making cheap salvo's at the opposition (people will win my vote with their policies/practicies not the bashing of the oppositions).
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Posted this on the IT thread but it's more than just geek news:
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/networking/2010/02/26/open-wi-fi-outlawed-by-digital-economy-bill-40057470/ (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/networking/2010/02/26/open-wi-fi-outlawed-by-digital-economy-bill-40057470/)
Don't just sit there and let this disgrace happen. Write to your MP.
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quality brooker rant about drugs (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/mar/22/charlie-brooker-newspapers-dangerous-drug#start-of-comments)
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New Labour, New same old Sleaze
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair)
No, it would be impossible to miss but Ashcroft is a 2 on the sleaze scale and Labour's recent sleaze is a 7 or 8.
Missed this one did you?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/lord-ashcroft-bbc-panorama (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/lord-ashcroft-bbc-panorama)
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Posted this on the IT thread but it's more than just geek news:
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/networking/2010/02/26/open-wi-fi-outlawed-by-digital-economy-bill-40057470/ (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/networking/2010/02/26/open-wi-fi-outlawed-by-digital-economy-bill-40057470/)
Don't just sit there and let this disgrace happen. Write to your MP.
Email Harriet Harman (http://findyourmp.parliament.uk/constituencies/camberwell-and-peckham/messages/new) and ask that the Digital Economy Bill be properly debated. This affects everyone.
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I thought this bill was due to die due to the lack of time so there was no reason to get upset. Have I missed something?
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Great way of getting to school (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1259691/The-children-ride-40mph-zip-wire-quarter-mile-high-to-school.html)
(I don't read the mail - found it by googling zip wire)
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I thought this bill was due to die due to the lack of time so there was no reason to get upset. Have I missed something?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/mar/22/digital-economy-bill (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/mar/22/digital-economy-bill)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/7497526/10000-protest-against-Digital-Economy-Bill.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/7497526/10000-protest-against-Digital-Economy-Bill.html)
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/03/23/cma-warns-the-uk-digital-economy-bill-to-kill-public-wifi-internet-access.html (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/03/23/cma-warns-the-uk-digital-economy-bill-to-kill-public-wifi-internet-access.html)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/23/digital-economy-bill-commons-debate (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/23/digital-economy-bill-commons-debate)
etc etc etc......
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Contact your MP about rushing through the DEB (http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl)
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World's hottest chilli to be used as weapon (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Chilli-Grenades-Worlds-Hottest-Pepper-Bhut-Jolokia-Used-As-Weapon-By-Indian-Military-After-Tests/Article/201003415580551?f=rss)
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World's hottest chilli to be used as weapon (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Chilli-Grenades-Worlds-Hottest-Pepper-Bhut-Jolokia-Used-As-Weapon-By-Indian-Military-After-Tests/Article/201003415580551?f=rss)
Sounds rather like organic pepper-spray to me!
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Taken for a ride! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8583558.stm#id8580000/8583600/8583637)
I know lets come up with a plan that affects those who are poorest (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8582993.stm) :wank:
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I couldn't disagree more.
This will reduce binge drinking and anti social behaviour that arises from the same.
WRT to the Digital Economy Bill (or should that be BULL) I hadn't realised that they were planning on bringing forward the second reading.
David Geffen must have really bent Lord Mandleson's ear . . .
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Perhaps in the long term, in the short term it will just make the poorer poorer as heavy drinkers tend not to change their habits.
More fundamentally though I disagree with this approach. They should be asking why people are drinking so much in the first place and address the root cause, not just trying to stop it now its happening by hiking up the price...oh wait hang on we don't live in a world where the right thing is done and problems are assessed objectively and attempts made to understand why things are as they are, but one where the state nannies us and tries to control our behavior through taxation and restrictive laws. :wank:
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Just realised I work with half of the co-authors of the original article (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2960058-X/fulltext)!
I shall take it up with them!
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We tax to change behaviour in a number of fields, petrol, fags and booze.
We drink to much for a number of reasons, one is perhaps the fact that we have long dark winters, another is because brewing was used to 'purfiy' water and beer 'small beer' used to be consumed at breakfast and finally because mammals like the affects of alcohol.
If the minimum price is 50p per unit that will only affect the poor at the absolute margins, as I understand it about £25 per year. Even on the lowest income leves that's a rounding error.
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Perhaps another contributing factor is that we drink too much to forget about the high tax rates in this country? :P
Besides, would you really drink less?
Most of the booze I and most others I know (and I suspect yourself :alky:) buy costs more than 50p a unit anyway, so why target those who for whatever reasons drink cheap booze, they've likely got bigger things to worry about than whether a reduction of 3.5% of their weekly alcohol consumption is going to have any serious impact on their health, longevity and quality of life.
But then I guess this isn't coming from the individuals perspective, but more likely how to fund the beleaguered health service (cause its going to be a loooong time before any supposed reduction in alcohol intake manifests itself in reduced disease rates).
:off: I'm learning bits here and there about Health Economics gradually, but was amazed to discover that many still use Excel to do their calculations despite its many numerical failings (http://slack.ser.man.ac.uk/progs/stata/avoid_excel.html) (basicailly it is a black box and returns some very dubious results to certain calculations) and also that little account is taken of the sample sizes on which estimates are based so are open to sampling issues.
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Perhaps another contributing factor is that we drink too much to forget about the high tax rates in this country? :P
Funny everyone goes on about high tax rates here but I did some calculations recently comparing tax rates in the UK and US (where they assume we pay SO much more to fund the NHS etc). Someone on about £40k pays basically the same (give or take about a tenner a month) but of course they then have to pay health insurance.
It's actually even better for Companies as I've just done some accounts for a UK company that is the subsidiary of a US one. The profits are taxed here at the main rate of at 28% (companies with lower profits (under £1.5m with no associated companies) pay 21%) but the profits we've shifted to the US via a management charge are charged at 35% (it's a bit more complicated than that with state taxes etc but the gist is correct).
Don't believe everything you hear.
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Perhaps hike up the tax on profits then, would probably get more money into the coffers. Obviously this has to be balanced against putting off investors blah blah blah. :devangel:
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How the Daily Express reported the story about the bloke who went back home to collect his fags [or something] to find a family of squatters had moved in in the 20 minutes he'd been out.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/164583/Romanians-steal-man-s-home (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/164583/Romanians-steal-man-s-home)
ROMANIANS STEAL MAN'S HOME
Monday March 22,2010
By Mark Reynolds
THE impact of Britain’s open-border policy on immigration was laid bare yesterday when it emerged how Romanian squatters moved into a man’s home while he was at work and attempted to claim it as their own.
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Last night Mr Mooney, who is now back in his home, declined to comment.
But a neighbour said: “Whatever happened to the notion that an Englishman’s home is his castle?
“What sort of country has it become when someone goes to work and has to worry about whether he will find a family of immigrants living in his home when he returns?
“This is the sorry conclusion of allowing uncontrolled immigration.” Earlier this year, Romanian squatters broke into a house in Tottenham, north London, as it was being renovated.
Julian and Samantha Mosedale, both 45, had spent a fortune refurbishing the £285,000 house and were planning to move in soon.
But their dream turned into a nightmare when the unwanted guests arrived over Christmas and changed the locks. Police refused to take action and the couple claimed officers even accused them of being “racist” for questioning the squatters’ rights to live in Britain on benefits.
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New Labour, New same old Sleaze
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/21/david-cameron-calls-probe-lobbying-affair)
No, it would be impossible to miss but Ashcroft is a 2 on the sleaze scale and Labour's recent sleaze is a 7 or 8.
Missed this one did you?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/lord-ashcroft-bbc-panorama (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/19/lord-ashcroft-bbc-panorama)
The issue isn't about Ashcroft - it's about the Tories using influence to gag any debate about individual members of their party being involved in questionable practices.
The PLP have suspended the "gang of four".
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Really, and can you point to any evidence demonstrating that debate of the tax status and domicillary status of Lord Ashcroft has been gagged?
errr no, I thought not.
Or maybe I missed the wall to wall coverage on Today, TWAO, PM, The 6 O'clock News, TWT, The News Quiz and in the Gruniad?
If you want evidence of pressure being put on the media to stop debate about questionable practices of senior labour figures have a quick look at the coke snorting, alcoholic, whoring senior weegie with links to organised crime.
Or maybe the husband of a cabinet minister with questionable overseas interests (and I don't mean David Mills) as far as I know there's an injunction in force about this so :oops:
Or indeed about several Labour PPC's and their questionable honesty in the means of securing nominations for safe Labour seats.
I'm quite happy to debate the failings of the Tories of which there are many but to suggest that Labour aren't sleazier, in either number of corrupt cvnts, the scale of the corruption or in serious personal wrong doing is just factually wrong. I don't want to be rude, but do go away and do some basic research.
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Really, and can you point to any evidence demonstrating that debate of the tax status and domicillary status of Lord Ashcroft has been gagged?
errr no, I thought not.
Let me know which of the words you don't understand
BBC shelves Panorama Lord Ashcroft investigation
Panorama programme on Lord Ashcroft unlikely to air before election after series of interventions by senior Tories
Lord Ashcroft's status as a non-dom has prompted a public outcry. Photograph: Chris Young/PA
Intense pressure from Conservative officials helped to force the BBC to quietly drop a lengthy investigation into Lord Ashcroft, the party's billionaire backer and deputy chairman. Panorama, the corporation's current affairs programme, was expected to focus on Ashcroft's business empire and his use of offshore entities.
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I believe Sloper about Labour being at least as corrupt as the Tories. I'll never vote Labour again after Tony Blair got the job with Lansdowne Partners. To me the Iraq war could be put down to a huge, tragic, stupid mistake but the Lansdowne Parners job seems unmitigated corruption that struggle as I might I can't come up with any excuse for. Are the Lib Dems the answer? They were against the Iraq war, predicted the banking crisis and generally seem less in the pockets of the Hedge fund/investment bank lobby. If you've got rot to expose about them please inform me.
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power breeds corruption
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Alice etc, maybe you don't get the idea of political impartiallity being rather important viz a viz the BBC, I know it's more myth than reality (see recent question time, questions from Andrew Marr to Boris Johnson and so on) but I would not want to see a highly politicised documentary about any senior politician in the run up to an election.
Seeking to delay the documentary to maintain political neutrality of the BBC is not seeking to 'gag' debate.
Which bit of that don't you get?
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Pull the other one Sloper. I know you don't actually believe that utter bollocks.
stone - I agree. While Labour and the Tories seem content to play "who's the biggest cunt?" the Lib Dems actually have sound policies. Why can't everyone see this?
:shrug:
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Actually I do, if it was C4 I would be outraged that 'senior conservatives' sought to stop a broadcast by a commercial broadcaster.
The fact is that it is the BBC, who are by Royal Charter supposed to be politically independent and they should not be broadcasting a documentary (particularly where it is only of interest because it is believed to be damaging to Ashcroft) which is highly political in the run up to a general election.
The BBC has always had a pro government bias (in favour of the Tories when they're in office) for example there's no mention of Darling's admission that Labour cuts will be deeper than Thatcher's on their front page http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/default.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/default.stm) compared with the headline position in the Gruniad. http://www.guardian.co.uk/ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/)
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Why should it not be broadcast in the run up to an election? If it's true then why should people not know about it? That's using "impartiality" as a cloak for censorship.
And saying that the BBC are pro government (in this case) doesn't tally with the fact that it's more than likely that your mates will win the election and therefore BE the government. Everyone knows that Thompson et al are shitting themselves and doing everything they can to cow tow to Cameron and his pals (hence the 6music debacle).
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I'mm not saying it shouldn't be broadcast, I'm saying that it shouldn't be broadcast on the BBC, there's a dig difference.
I would take exactly the same view if the BBC were planning to show a documentary on Labour MP's using their MP's expenses to fund the Labour Party (yes they do do this) or Labour's under the counter links with Unite.
The reasoning is simple, if you're (in effect) the State Broadcaster and have a duty to be impartial you cannot maintain that standard by broadcasting a programme which is higly contentious and politically damaging to a major party in the run up to a general election.
The likely Tory victory doesn't change the evidence that the BBC has always been pro government.
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If the BBC were still basically the only broadcaster then this argument would hold water but they're not so it doesn't. I don't want a "state broadcaster" that is impartial to point of censorship and I don't see any difference between a programme being broadcast by the BBC, Channel 4 or ITV (oh no hang on they don't do proper programmes any more).
The likely Tory victory doesn't change the evidence that the BBC has always been pro government.
That doesn't make sense! If the BBC is pro government then they will be much more likely to be pro the government which is going to be in charge for the next few years rather than the one which will be out on it's ear in a couple of months time. As for evidence, it's evident that Thompson is kissing Cameron's arse because of the above.
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Jasper I think that it matters regardless of the competition, the BBC needs to remain impartial and broadcasting stuff that is highly political in the run up to an election substantially damages their claim to impartiallity.
This isn't about censorship it's abnout maintaining the impartiality of the BBC. Censorship would be preventing the programme from being shown, whereas it is being postponed until the time when the impartiality of the BBC won't be so substantially damaged.
Anway from what I can see the issue is about the content and that broadcasting the prog. would I am guessing be libellous etc
But neither the director-general nor the Trust has intervened to block the programme, sources inside the BBC insisted. One said: "If the programme doesn't go out before the general election, it has nothing to do with the Conservatives. It's to do with whether it's legally clearable." Another said: "Things take time when you are dealing with offshore finances. It's easy to jump to the conclusion that this is connected to the general election, but the main priority is to make sure the programme goes out in a form in which you are sure it is right. It's an amazingly difficult area."
A spokesman for Lord Ashcroft said it was "hardly a revelation" that the peer's lawyers had contacted the BBC over the Panorama programme. He added: "We shall watch this space."
Lord Ashcroft is taking legal action against The Independent over two reports on his business interests in the Turks and Caicos.
'No one from Panorama was available for comment, but a BBC spokesman said: "The programme is not on the schedule at the moment. We do not know when it will be aired."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ashcrofts-lawyers-silence-panorama-1923210.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ashcrofts-lawyers-silence-panorama-1923210.html)
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But neither the director-general nor the Trust has intervened to block the programme, sources inside the BBC insisted. One said: "If the programme doesn't go out before the general election, it has nothing to do with the Conservatives. It's to do with whether it's legally clearable."
(http://www.ssplprints.com/lowres/43/main/46/124875.jpg)
Another said: "Things take time when you are dealing with offshore finances. It's easy to jump to the conclusion that this is connected to the general election, but the main priority is to make sure the programme goes out in a form in which you are sure it is right. It's an amazingly difficult area."
(http://www.robpetherick.co.uk/large/11JimmyHill.jpg)
I can see why you like talking politics mate as the politicians way is to ignore the opposition's arguments and press on regardless until they get bored with repeating themselves!
;D
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The fact that Tompson et al are kowtowing to Cameron is a seperate issue and the shame about the Panorma doc is its bad timing. Last year it would have been broadcast.
Unfortunatley in this case i think the BBC really are playing the impartiallity card. There is little consistency in this over time so its annoying, and maybe a little bit too convieient.
To suggest that this government is sleasier than either past governments or the current opposition is silly. Labour has loads more MP's to get caught out, (which will swing of course), a scoop on opposition is never as interesting as a scoop on the incumbent, and the media are more pervasive than they were.
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Mr Sharpe.. I'll see your two Jimmy Hills,
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UKPtjLJJALw/SYw-pqexnbI/AAAAAAAAAfA/M9VprfE6NEM/s400/jimmy_hill2.jpg)
(http://www.easterroad.com/images/beards/jimmy_hill.jpg)
And raise you an Edwina Curry!!! :P
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2MxNldr5ZRI/SJIYBEYR9XI/AAAAAAAAACI/tTM3WLuVovM/s320/edwina_currie.jpg)
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The fact that Tompson et al are kowtowing to Cameron is a seperate issue and the shame about the Panorma doc is its bad timing. Last year it would have been broadcast.
Unfortunatley in this case i think the BBC really are playing the impartiallity card. There is little consistency in this over time so its annoying, and maybe a little bit too convieient.
To suggest that this government is sleasier than either past governments or the current opposition is silly. Labour has loads more MP's to get caught out, (which will swing of course), a scoop on opposition is never as interesting as a scoop on the incumbent, and the media are more pervasive than they were.
It's not a silly accusation to make as it is borne out by the facts.
There were from memory about four Tory Parliamentarians caught taking cash for quesitons in 18 years and other that the cvnts Aitken and Archer that was about the size of it.
We have had 7 Labour Parliamentarians caught offering to take cash for making amendments etc three charged with false accounting, loans for peerages and other breaches of their own rules, donations influencing policy from Bernie Ecc and the formular 1 and fags scandal, John Prescott and the dome / casino row through to Lords Drayson and Sainsbury.
It seems that the Panoram prog is being shelved for legal reasons not withstanding the inappropriate timing of the potential broadcast.
Jasper, the point is I'm saying the same thing repeatedly because I'm right.
TomTom you deviant mofo.
I'll raise your edwina currie with a john prescott and hazel blears combo
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You've just completely disregarded the points i made.
I'm not disputing your 'facts', just that things are relative. And relatively its no worse.
Come back after Cons have won two terms. Its a never ending cycle.
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You've just completely disregarded the points i made.
Surely not! :o
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You've just completely disregarded the points i made.
I'm not disputing your 'facts', just that things are relative. And relatively its no worse.
Come back after Cons have won two terms. Its a never ending cycle.
Your point about the media only being interested in the corruption of the party in government is substanitally correct but but only because in opposition you're unable to weild the influence and therefore aren't worth 'buying'.
As for it not being relatively worse, come off it it's much worse now, it's worse on a catergorical level and your point about the numbers is specious too, for in the 1980's there were far more Tories to get caught out.
Back in the 1980's and early 90's There were a few Tories asking what largely amounted to vanity questions now you have Labour Lords and MP's boasting about how they have changed policies and legislation for money.
Then there are the cases where there'sa big donation and whoops, a change of policy.
As I said categorically different and far more serious and far more numerous.
Anyway I think we're getting seriosly off topic.
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An excellent op-ed piece in the NY Times on he current hoo-haa over the Healthcare bil passed by congress in the US last week:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28rich.html?src=tp (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28rich.html?src=tp)
I have a couple of friends in the U.S. (both academics) who are concerned things could escalate massively in the run up to congressional elections later this year - particularly if, as many expect, the polls start moving heavily in favour of the Democrats.
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Skip to 52:40, dynamite. Kept this one quite
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rt9nv/Countryfile_28_03_2010/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rt9nv/Countryfile_28_03_2010/)
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Nice find Jim
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/CyLwiki/ScreenHunter_02Mar290659.gif)
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That's a strong look for the crag. I might go back to it.
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I'm going to try and emulate it for the cave trip today
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Contact your MP about rushing through the DEB (http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl)
I contacted my local mp and got this reply.....
The latest info I have is that the Bill will return for its 2nd Reading on 6th April, but it is very unlikely to go any further.
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I got a nice letter on posh paper telling me that my MP had raised his constituents concerns with the Digital Minister Stephen Timms and enclosing Mr Timms' reply.
Unfortunately Mr Timms is a cock and it was just a load of party line (Mandy's line) bullshit about copyright etc. Most depressing.
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I got a nice letter on posh paper telling me that my MP had raised his constituents concerns with the Digital Minister Stephen Timms and enclosing Mr Timms' reply.
Unfortunately Mr Timms is a cock and it was just a load of party line (Mandy's line) bullshit about copyright etc. Most depressing.
I got the same (but then I'm pretty sure we're both in Richard Caborn's constituency).
Considering writing and pointing out the the DEB will effectively kill open WiFi and that this in turn will stiffle the pledge to get everyone on line (particularly in remote areas). Will see if I can find the time at some point.
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That was part of what I wrote to Caborn and to Harriet Harman.
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Yeah, I said the same, but now that he's/they ignored it I'll ask them again IN BIG SHOUTY LETTERS :wall:
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couple of hard on collider webcams:
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html (http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html)
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couple of hard on collider webcams:
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html (http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html)
:lol:
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The magnets made me do it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8593748.stm)
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magentic pulses? what, lentils and shit? that's well hippy.
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The magnets made me do it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8593748.stm)
Not me, I'm protected by my tinfoil hat.
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The Chancellors Debate summed up well here. (http://www.citywire.co.uk/professional/-/blogs/the-wealth-manager-blog/content.aspx?ID=391110)
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7065824.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7065824.ece)
The article itself is no great surprise, but I like the journo's name.
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He was mentioned so much on Twitter a few days ago that his name became the No. 1 trending topic. Had to check it wasn't 1st April.
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And in the "bit at the end of the news"...
Winner of the 2010 Britain's softest twat (http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/30032010/36/mini-world-s-most-expensive-mirror-0.html)award announced
You thick fucking tosser, Ian Grice, "builder from Nottingam".
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:lol: What a fuckwit and what a shit car.
Want more evidence of Lab / Tory cuntishness across the board? OK then. (http://bit.ly/8ZhonO)
Watson and Kilfoyle have both taken advantage of Conditional Fee Agreements in past court cases.
Quell fucking surprise!
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Check this shit out.......
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmcumeds/362/36213.htm (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmcumeds/362/36213.htm)
Mr Tom Watson declared an interest as, in a legal dispute with the Sun newspaper which had been settled during the inquiry, he had been represented by Carter-Ruck Solicitors on a Conditional Fee Agreement.
Caught red handed you cunt!
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/01/labour-gordon-brown-hard-man (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/01/labour-gordon-brown-hard-man)
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Victory for science. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/01/simon-singh-wins-libel-court)
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Singh_judgement_01Apr10.pdf (http://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Singh_judgement_01Apr10.pdf)
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Victory for science. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/01/simon-singh-wins-libel-court)
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Singh_judgement_01Apr10.pdf (http://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Singh_judgement_01Apr10.pdf)
Its a bit of a non sequitur to sue for libel in the first place when it was based on fact though wasn't it?
Whatever prat of a judge who failed to throw this out at the first hurdle should be struck-off.
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But that's exactly why the libel laws need to be totally changed.
There are loads of other cases like this and it's fucking nonsense. This victory (although only minor on the face of it) is a major step in the right direction0 (in my uneducated opinion!).
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http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/04/bca-v-singh-astonishingly-liberal.html (http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/04/bca-v-singh-astonishingly-liberal.html)
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A fine fine judgement.
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Interesting. (http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/2010/04/01/labour-dossier-marriage-tax-breaks-non-doms-council-tax-freezes/)
OK I know most people find tax stuff really boring but this is worth knowing...........
I'm not going to wade through all the figures but the most interesting / worrying aspect this raises is the general tone of Tory fiscal policy. Two points jump out immediately.
1. Tax breaks for married couples. The Tories say that they haven't decided exactly what this will be but that it will benefit all married couples (and those in civil partnerships). However, the only concrete idea that they have put forward on this is to allow the transfer of unused tax allowances which is interesting as this will only benefit those couples where one partner earns less than their personal allowance.
Doesn't take a genius to work out that pretty much the only couples who will get anything worthwhile out of this will be those who can afford to have just one partner earning a living while the other stays at home. i.e. The rich.
2. Reduce the rate of CT to 25% (and that of small companies to 20%). All well and good until you see that they will pay for it by scrapping the Annual Investment Allowance. This is where companies can get tax relief of 100% on the first £50k (now raised to £100k in the budget, a move applauded by small business leaders) of expenditure on plant & machinery (and integral features). The AIA is not just a great thing for small businesses (I have seen the benfit to many of them first hand) but it boosts the manufacturing industry and encourages investment and growth from the bottom up.
So again, we have a "tax break" that will reduce the CT bills of big companies meaning more money for those at the top while the small companies and grassroots industry gets shafted.
I haven't time to look any further at the moment but these two jumped out at me. Seriously, anyone who believes that the Tories have sounds fiscal policies needs to dig a little further. Scratch the surface and it's the same old story.
Help the rich and fuck the rest of you. Shame most people will fall for it. :thumbsdown:
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On the subject of the election, this is well cool:
http://generalelection2010.timesonline.co.uk/#/Election05/Seats_Won (http://generalelection2010.timesonline.co.uk/#/Election05/Seats_Won)
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:agree: Hate The Times, but lurve those graphics. So much better than the muesli munchers over at the grauniad......
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As I'll never tire of saying: you're all fucked! :lol:
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He's not dead, he's sleeping (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8604663.stm)
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How we all nearly snuffed it (or "Lets all get pissed, its the end of the world!") (http://www.cracked.com/article_18503_how-biotech-company-almost-killed-world-with-booze.html)
Now I can't prove the veracity of this, but if its true its bloody scary! And makes you wonder how often this kind of thing happens.
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He's not dead, he's sleeping (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8604663.stm)
They really did try that line (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8606617.stm) :lol:
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Blunkit never spaked a more truer line: (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Sheffield-BNP-mans-arrest-for.6205082.jp)
"If we ever needed proof that we are dealing with a group of thugs who are a danger to democracy, this latest bizarre occurrence confirms it.
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Mark Collett, the BNP's publicity chief
Fucking brilliant! :lol:
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I think it's part of their core strategy to prove they haven't gone soft what wif letin in darkies n that?
Still I don't think it's an impediment to him standing as an MP.
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Mark Collett, the BNP's publicity chief
Fucking brilliant! :lol:
:lol: Seems he's taken the phrase "There's no such thing as bad publicity" a little too literally.
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They really should have :read: (http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18779)
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It would be a fair point if it was copyright infringemen but it isn't.
So that rather blows the story.
Anyway Malcolm McClaren RIP it up in hell with Sid you old fucker.
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Contact your MP about rushing through the DEB (http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl)
I contacted my local mp and got this reply.....
The latest info I have is that the Bill will return for its 2nd Reading on 6th April, but it is very unlikely to go any further.
After this bill getting through the house of commons and me finding out that my local MP was one of the Ayes, http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm100407/debtext/100407-0032.htm#1004088001556 (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm100407/debtext/100407-0032.htm#1004088001556), I responded to him with the following.
Obviously you were wrong in saying it is unlikely to go any further.
Furthermore I'm extremely disappointed to see that you were one of the 'Ayes' in voting for the bill last night. I would have appreciated an open and honest response to my original email, by you saying that you were willing to support this ill thought out bill. I feel let down and disappointed by your lack of honesty.
I have always voted labour in the past, but I can quite honestly say that this is a deal-breaker for me and I will not be voting labour (or yourself - assuming you are standing) in next election.
And got the following response.
The advice I gave you was based on the position as I believed it to be and I passed that to you in good faith. Therefore you did get an open and honest answer. The fact is that there were some changes which meant that there was a big degree of consensus. I was swayed by the fact that people from the music industry and creative arts were clear that they believed that if we did not act now then the law would continue to be unclear. I did lobby the Ministers re the lack of scrutiny on behalf of people like yourself and I was in the debate last night. They pointed out the fact that over 50 hours of debate, during which 700 amendments were put down had taken place in the Lords. If this had come at an earlier time we would have had more debate in the Commons, but the core issues would have been the same. This is clearly an issue that impacts on different groups in different ways. In such circumstances I could never please everyone.
The bit that stands out to me, and probably the most important bit (which he acknowledged) is this 'If this had come at an earlier time we would have had more debate'.
I'm not against the bill per-se, even though I do download quite a bit, it's the pandering to the big music corporations that's really got my back up and the fact that something this significant needs to be properly debated and constructed over a long period of time with input from a range of different groups.
Fucking scum bag MPs, you can't trust any of them to do the right thing!
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The main problem is that copyright laws were created when the distribution of content/media required significant investment to produce a physical copy of said content and distribute it to those who might want it (and advertise it too). The world has moved on and physical copies of books/cd/dvds are no longer needed and distribution is but a click away these days.
Unfortunately this glaringly obvious point seems to have completely passed over many of those who have a vested interest in distributing media the old fashioned way, and instead of looking to adapt they are trying to apply the old laws to the new media and it just doesn't work. Instead of lining the pockets of politicians with back handers to get new laws bought in to protect the old ones they should be looking to embrace the new media and change their business model.
Unfortunately that requires thinking and more work than the former.
:wall: :wall: :wall:
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The other thing about the DEB from what I gather is it means that basically if someone stumbles across a photo on the internet and it's not immediately obvious who owns the copyright (i.e. the image is deemed to be "orphaned") its basically fair game to be used for free, outside of copyright. Which is clearly not a good thing for any photographers who give a shit about the value of their work but don't want to have a banner across any image to prevent it from being halfinched. All those people who've been selling microstock for 0.0000001p per photo are probably shit out of luck too.
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Fucking scumbags.......
I got a nice letter on posh paper telling me that my MP had raised his constituents concerns with the Digital Minister Stephen Timms and enclosing Mr Timms' reply.
Unfortunately Mr Timms is a cock and it was just a load of party line (Mandy's line) bullshit about copyright etc. Most depressing.
I got the same (but then I'm pretty sure we're both in Richard Caborn's constituency).
Considering writing and pointing out the the DEB will effectively kill open WiFi and that this in turn will stiffle the pledge to get everyone on line (particularly in remote areas). Will see if I can find the time at some point.
I see our Mr Caborn voted "Aye" as well. Quell surprise. I wonder how many constituents emailed or wrote to their MPs in support of the DEB and asking that it be rushed through without proper debate?
In such circumstances I could never please everyone.
I would be tempted to ask the question but I already know the answer!
Labour have fucked is as far as I'm concerned and as ours is the only constituency in Sheffield where a minor swing will lose them a seat to the Lib Dems perhaps they should have listened......
You're spot on slackers but I'm confident that they're merely swimming against the tide. The legislation is already superseded by technology and ingenuity. It's pathetic really. The bigger issue that this has highlighted is that of the power of money (as Davey_C says)..............
http://www.adoptioncurve.net/archives/2010/04/the-debill-and-why-were-really-screwed.php (http://www.adoptioncurve.net/archives/2010/04/the-debill-and-why-were-really-screwed.php)
There are some decent people in politics but more and more I see that the only ones with the balls to stand up for what they believe in NO MATTER WHAT are in the yellow team. Could it have something to do with the finances of the parties themselves?
dave - was that not the clause 43 that was scrapped at the last minute?
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dave - was that not the clause 43 that was scrapped at the last minute?
could have been, I'm not going to pretend I'm totally up to date on this shit. That fact it was even in the bill in the first place is staggering.
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dave - was that not the clause 43 that was scrapped at the last minute?
could have been, I'm not going to pretend I'm totally up to date on this shit. That fact it was even in the bill in the first place is staggering.
Yeah, that bit got cut a couple of days ago.
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This Bill was always going to be the product of lobbying from likes of David Geffen, just look at how much time he spent with Peter Mandleson etc for what it's worth I don't think that the problem is the protection of copyright per se it's more the enforcement of alleged breaches and the transfer of responsibility for breaches that this the problem.
I don't see this Bill remaining unammended for long.
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The other thing about the DEB from what I gather is it means that basically if someone stumbles across a photo on the internet and it's not immediately obvious who owns the copyright (i.e. the image is deemed to be "orphaned") its basically fair game to be used for free, outside of copyright. Which is clearly not a good thing for any photographers who give a shit about the value of their work but don't want to have a banner across any image to prevent it from being halfinched. All those people who've been selling microstock for 0.0000001p per photo are probably shit out of luck too.
Nope, that got thrown out (see here (http://hub.the-aop.org/News_archive/p2_articleid/179), cofe tweeted about it the other day when it was announced), the amusing thing is that as a consequence, both the Tories and Labour have broken the law (http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18779) :lol:
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whats a "tweet"?
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I don't think that the problem is the protection of copyright per se it's more the enforcement of alleged breaches and the transfer of responsibility for breaches that this the problem.
Which means that anywhere offering free wifi can be prosecuted as an isp which has allowed someone to use their service illegally (or something)? Yeah I'd say that was a pretty big fucking problem. Universities, libraries, pubs, cafes, last I heard the government hadn't even decided how they would be classified so they couldn't give anyone an answer as to what they should do. Great legislation!
Such total nonsense. It's like prosecuting the owner of a road for someone driving illegally on it.
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whats a "tweet"?
Its a short message of upto 140 characters (in essence a micro-blog) that you post to an account on a website called twitter (http://www.twitter.com). You can "Follow" other people and see what they are tweeting and others can follow you and see what you tweet. There are various different interfaces such as a standard web-page, or various Firefox plug-ins, plus apps for smart-phones that allow you to tweet on the go. :)
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Sorry let me try that again:
[facitious]what's a tweet?[/facitious]
::) ;)
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[playingalong]For once I clocked this as a joke[/playingalong]
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BBC News - Conservatives outline £12bn public sector savings plan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8610560.stm#id8610000/8610800/8610889-audio)
Whoa! Not filling 20,000 "vacancies" at HMRC? Ha ha! They're already woefully understaffed as it is and barely have enough people to answer the phone.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8586257.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8586257.stm)
Well done David, another brilliant policy.
The only way they can pay for not raising NI is by raising VAT (which they're keeping quiet about).
Do you wonder why "70 business leaders" are backing the NI policy? Yeah, not because it'll make a couple of quid a week difference to the individual but because it will cost the big companies millions in Employers NI. What's 1% to you or me? Fuck all. But to a company employing thousands it's big money.
VAT hits everyone including the poorest. Anyone see a pattern developing (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10191.msg254846.html#msg254846)?
Don't let these cunts pull the wool over your eyes.
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See if your vote means anything......
http://www.voterpower.org.uk/ (http://www.voterpower.org.uk/)
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I've got 0.635 of a vote. My parents have got 0.007. Sucks to be them.
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The architects of the DEB really are fucking clueless as to what they're talking about (http://www.techeye.net/internet/labour-is-clueless-about-the-internet)
In the context of identifying individuals on the internet IP != Intellectual Property.
IP == Internet Protocol
And these are the fuckwits who are making laws about things they don't even understand :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:
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I've got 0.635 of a vote.
Yes but "Voters in Sheffield Hallam have 2.51x more voting power than the UK average". I thought it looked like a fairly safe Lib Dem seat.
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We've got 0.072 of a vote.
That's pretty fucking depressing.
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David Cameron believes in Zombies
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features/f0000552.shtml (http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features/f0000552.shtml)
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Sex workers in Attercliffe have a vote worth 512 times more than anyone from Scunthorpe?
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0.901 in Sheffield Central. 24th out of 650.
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My brother (who has been excommunicated to Eire) contacted me the other day saying I could have his proxy vote to use as I wish, tempted given how in the balance Sheffield Central is, but it would of course be illegal.
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My brother (who has been excommunicated to Eire)
That pretty harsh, just cos he didn't spot you.
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:lol:
Yep, that and marrying an Irish lass.
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We've got a massive 0.006 of a vote, 637 out of 650. No point in that then.
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(http://soapboxrants.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/father-ted-careful-now.jpg)
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http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2010/04/08/north-yorkshire-shop-owner-has-stone-willy-seized-by-police-84229-26199502/ (http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2010/04/08/north-yorkshire-shop-owner-has-stone-willy-seized-by-police-84229-26199502/)
(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/gazettelive2/apr2010/0/1/jason-hadlow-with-a-police-officer-and-the-offending-object-849406354.jpg)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8607145.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8607145.stm)
"Sheffield gets first Communist candidate since 1979"
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8607145.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8607145.stm)
"Sheffield gets first Communist candidate since 1979"
I bet Banks is out canvasing for him as we speak.
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They just don't get it (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/expenses-scandal-mps-to-get-legal-aid-1943010.html)
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They just don't get it (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/expenses-scandal-mps-to-get-legal-aid-1943010.html)
This might come as a suprise but I think it's wholly right and proper that they've been granted Legal Aid, what I find wholly wrong is that Labour have introduced means testing for people in a similar position.
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Mp expenses - :yawn:
THIS IS NEWS... ;)
RYANAIR to start charging £1 to use the loo... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/11/ryanair-tiger-woods-victoria-coren)
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They just don't get it (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/expenses-scandal-mps-to-get-legal-aid-1943010.html)
This might come as a suprise but I think it's wholly right and proper that they've been granted Legal Aid, what I find wholly wrong is that Labour have introduced means testing for people in a similar position.
I don't really have a problem with anyone being granted legal aid, but is it not in place for situations where people genuinely can't afford to carry the cost in the first place? An annual salary of ~£65000 is waaay more than I earn and in this instance its a case they have bought to court themselves.
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Legal Aid used to be available universally for imprisonable offences but Labour introduced means testing which means even if you're on a relatively modest salary you don't get it which is nothing short of a disgrace.
A decent justice system does not allow for the rich to avoid conviction because they can afford the best representation which is exactly what will happen, see the USA for the best examples.
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Legal Aid used to be available universally for imprisonable offences but Labour introduced means testing which means even if you're on a relatively modest salary you don't get it which is nothing short of a disgrace.
So these Labour MPs are twisting the (unjust) law that was changed under their leadership further then, since £65000 is more than a modest salary, and therefore shouldn't entitle them to it (or is it that these are not imprisonable offences, in which case how does legal aid pan out for such offences)?
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Officials were obliged to accept the MPs’ application “in the interests of justice” because a system of means-testing, which is being rolled out across the country, has not yet been implemented at Southwark Crown Court, where the three are due to stand trial.
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Apparently Gordon Brown has interevened saying that the defendants will have to pay the money back . . . doesn't he know that's a matter for the trial judge and the LSC or is it in his mind that the PM can intervene into judicial matters when the political need arises?
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Thats some bad shit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8616413.stm)
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A long way to go (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8618414.stm)
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A long way to go (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8618414.stm)
They'd have passed in cheshire
(http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/resources/images/1252869/?type=display)
This is the result of some arse hitting parked cars! (http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/6384737.Car_overturns_on_Ellesmere_Road/)
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Odd side effects following Wii accident (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/15/wii_fit_fall/)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/13/keane-furious-conservative-manifesto-launch (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/13/keane-furious-conservative-manifesto-launch)
Strangely, Keane have now gone up in my estimation.
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Amusing Virus. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8622665.stm)
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Cool. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/7139342/Aircruise-giant-hydrogen-airships-could-herald-a-new-era-in-luxury-travel.html)
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Cool. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/7139342/Aircruise-giant-hydrogen-airships-could-herald-a-new-era-in-luxury-travel.html)
Need a light?
Amusing Virus. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8622665.stm)
That is very amusing :lol:
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They didn't learn nothing from the Hindenburg!
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They didn't learn nothing from the Hindenburg!
Other than to use Hydrogen, not Helium.
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They didn't learn nothing from the Hindenburg!
Other than to use Hydrogen, not Helium.
A sphincter says what? :-\
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They didn't learn nothing from the Hindenburg!
Other than to use Hydrogen, not Helium.
Not had you coffee yet Chris? ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen#Combustion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen#Combustion)
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They didn't learn nothing from the Hindenburg!
Other than to use Hydrogen, not Helium.
They already knew that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ_129_Hindenburg#Use_of_hydrogen_instead_of_helium), but good old US bans forced them to revert to using Hydrogen.
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They didn't learn nothing from the Hindenburg!
Other than to use Hydrogen, not Helium.
Not had you coffee yet Chris? ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen#Combustion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen#Combustion)
That's what I meant?
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Always read the small print (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100015-7500-Gamers-Sell-Their-Souls-to-GameStation)
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Always read the small print (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100015-7500-Gamers-Sell-Their-Souls-to-GameStation)
Brilliant, shows the pointlessness of all the legal dross in the EULA's
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That's quality.
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Bulgarian (http://sofiaecho.com/2010/04/12/886032_penthouse-billboard-under-fire-in-bulgaria) residents confuse billboard of eye for a giant 'lady place'
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:oops:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1221480_doctor_removed_patients_testicle_by_accident (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1221480_doctor_removed_patients_testicle_by_accident)
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:oops:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1221480_doctor_removed_patients_testicle_by_accident (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1221480_doctor_removed_patients_testicle_by_accident)
"It just came off in my hand..." :whistle: :whistle:
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:oops:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1221480_doctor_removed_patients_testicle_by_accident (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1221480_doctor_removed_patients_testicle_by_accident)
"It just came off in my hand..." :whistle: :whistle:
Measure twice and cut once...
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Step in the right direction......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2010/apr/20/imf-tax-global-banks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2010/apr/20/imf-tax-global-banks)
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Racist ingredients (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100420/od_afp/australiabookcookingoffbeat_20100420013417) :lol:
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Breaking news in south london: http://twitpic.com/1h9lot (http://twitpic.com/1h9lot)
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The dangers of loose women (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8631775.stm)
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Laugh or cry?
http://yfrog.com/ba7mbjj (http://yfrog.com/ba7mbjj)
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Burglars break into prison to steal from inmates (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63K4GC20100421)
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Buffoon! (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news2/I-threw-away-100000.6245268.jp)
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Hot breaking news from our South of England (http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/8116189.Dog_injures_nose/) correspondent.
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Buffoon! (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news2/I-threw-away-100000.6245268.jp)
Supreme stupidity. :wall:
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Hot breaking news from our South of England (http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/8116189.Dog_injures_nose/) correspondent.
I'd hate to see a slow news day in salisbury!!
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BOOM!!!
http://top10.com/broadband/news/2010/04/wi_fi_broadband_loophole_in_digital_economy_act/ (http://top10.com/broadband/news/2010/04/wi_fi_broadband_loophole_in_digital_economy_act/)
First cracks appear in the Digital Economy Act. Didn't think it'd take long! ;D
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And in related news......
http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2010/04/bpi-issue-sunny-news-release-make.html (http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2010/04/bpi-issue-sunny-news-release-make.html)
Poor BPI, cry me a fucking river. :wank:
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BOOM!!!
http://top10.com/broadband/news/2010/04/wi_fi_broadband_loophole_in_digital_economy_act/ (http://top10.com/broadband/news/2010/04/wi_fi_broadband_loophole_in_digital_economy_act/)
First cracks appear in the Digital Economy Act. Didn't think it'd take long! ;D
:thumbsup: :) Genius.
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What a balls up (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8646713.stm)
The hearing was also told that in August 2006, Dr Al Hourani had injected himself with two milligrams (mg) of midazolam, a powerful sedative, which was meant for a patient.
Hospital staff said the doctor, who was on call, appeared unsteady on his feet and was later found in the doctors' mess room "deeply asleep" and taken to A&E.
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I thought the headline to that story
"Testicle removal blunder surgeon struck off" was a bit comic then I tried to think of others..
"Doctor removed for testicle balls up"
"Or testicle blunder doctor given the sack"
"Wrong ball cock up"
And so on...
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We are sailing, or not (http://www.birminghamwired.co.uk/articles.php/55306-Man-rescued-off-Isle-of-Sheppey-after-sailing-blunder)
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Man steals electricity with meat hook (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63Q48L20100427)
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We are sailing, or not (http://www.birminghamwired.co.uk/articles.php/55306-Man-rescued-off-Isle-of-Sheppey-after-sailing-blunder)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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We are sailing, or not (http://www.birminghamwired.co.uk/articles.php/55306-Man-rescued-off-Isle-of-Sheppey-after-sailing-blunder)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You would be feeling like a prize turd by now if that was you! I'm also glad that the daily mail took time to show where sheppey is, and how you sail around it. Thank goodness for the mails journalistic talents
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/28/article-1269257-0953A830000005DC-703_468x268.jpg)(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/27/article-1269257-09541544000005DC-638_468x276.jpg)
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Brilliant.
To be fair to the bloke though he was just trying to get away from Gillingham which is understandable.
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Brilliant.
To be fair to the bloke though he was just trying to get away from Gillingham which is understandable.
Be fair, he got away from Gillingham faster than Albion did…
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
You would be feeling like a prize turd by now if that was you! I'm also glad that the daily mail took time to show where sheppey is, and how you sail around it. Thank goodness for the mails journalistic talents
Good of them to include a grahpic of what a boat looks like, too.
[Presumably so their readers can identfy it as one of those things that's bringing all the "immigrants" over in, I shouldn't wonder]
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Brilliant.
To be fair to the bloke though he was just trying to get away from Gillingham which is understandable.
Be fair, he got away from Gillingham faster than Albion did…
:furious: You've had a good day out, now lip it..........etc
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Er....just a coincidence I'm sure Rupert. (http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-before-the-paywall-murdoch-stops-disclosing-uk-news-site-traffic/)
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We are sailing, or not (http://www.birminghamwired.co.uk/articles.php/55306-Man-rescued-off-Isle-of-Sheppey-after-sailing-blunder)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
V Funny. If he ran out of fuel after getting that far, how did he hope to get to So't'on? Stop at the Service Stations marked in his roadmap along the way?
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:furious: You've had a good day out, now lip it..........etc
(http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/files/2007/09/rant.jpg)
THAT'S MY DAD!!!! SHE TOUCHED HIS COAT!!!!!! YOU! YOU! YOU! SHE TOUCHED HIS COAT!!!
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WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
(Is it me, or are Daily Mail journalists getting stupider?) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1268745/Chatroulette-Is-new-teenage-website-disturbing-internet-craze-yet.html)
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WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
(Is it me, or are Daily Mail journalists getting stupider?) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1268745/Chatroulette-Is-new-teenage-website-disturbing-internet-craze-yet.html)
:shrug: since when has chatroulette been a 'teen' website? Its about as teen as oldcelebrityfisting.com
Sigh..
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More news about those zany knockabout japesters in the EDL.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/headlines/Bungling-demo-picked-wrong-shop.6261346.jp (http://www.thestar.co.uk/headlines/Bungling-demo-picked-wrong-shop.6261346.jp)
(Equally depressing are some of the comments afterwards)
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Great story. Some depressing comments but I liked this one.
Paul - Please explain how KFC selling halal products is 'undermining our society'. I didn't realise our society was based on the manner in which fried chicken is prepared.
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(http://l.yimg.com/i/ng/sh/carenthu/20100430/11/3751167046-driver-misses-wall-death-parking.jpg?x=566&y=800&q=80&sig=2Eh_rpE9rrFs3leWV9MIVw--)
more idiocy, apparently this guy was parking his car using a sailing chart... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1269697/Merecedes-smashes-wall-7-storeys-Oklahoma-car-park.html) :thumbsup:
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Spiderman catches thief. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/03/spider-man-catches-thief-adelaide?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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Spiderman catches thief. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/03/spider-man-catches-thief-adelaide?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
:lol: I was expecting...
(http://reallifesuperheroes.org/wp-content/uploads/alainrobert_narrowweb__300x4920.jpg)
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Dogging this way...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47776000/jpg/_47776900_sign.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/8660449.stm)
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Not sure where to put this but it's interesting:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/05/why_arent_there.html (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/05/why_arent_there.html)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antigay-baptist-minister-took-male-prostitute-on-holiday-1964506.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antigay-baptist-minister-took-male-prostitute-on-holiday-1964506.html)
Can't decide whether to laugh... or laugh more! :lol:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antigay-baptist-minister-took-male-prostitute-on-holiday-1964506.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antigay-baptist-minister-took-male-prostitute-on-holiday-1964506.html)
Can't decide whether to laugh... or laugh more! :lol:
Awesome.
I liked the comment:
I have it on good authority that this was all above board. He was actually visiting Philippa Stroud on a factfinding trip. He brought the rentboy along for her to demonstrate on.
:lol:
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Dogging this way...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47776000/jpg/_47776900_sign.jpg) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/8660449.stm)
I can just picture the many angry local residents now :great: It only upset them as it ruins the high class local swingers scene and they'll have to dig the pampas grass out of the front garden ;D
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antigay-baptist-minister-took-male-prostitute-on-holiday-1964506.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antigay-baptist-minister-took-male-prostitute-on-holiday-1964506.html)
Can't decide whether to laugh... or laugh more! :lol:
I loved the quote "he spent time "with sinners with the loving goal to try to help them rim him." And, he added, he "spent a great deal of time" on the trip "sharing scientific information on the desirability of abandoning homosexual intercourse once you've finished no doubt."
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A time when you are glad you have big ears.
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week1/15626316.jpg) (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Boys-Ears-Save-Him-From-Death-Ming-Ming-Caught-Between-Metal-Bars-Outside-Apartment-Window/Article/201005115626326)
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He declined to say why he had secured bag-carrying services through www.rentboy.com (http://www.rentboy.com)....Perhaps it was the young man's interesting range of hobbies, which are listed as: "vanilla, leather, shaving, spanking, role-play and go-go dancing".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Extreme dieting (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100510/od_afp/indiasciencedefencefoodoffbeat_20100510111504)
"If Jani does not derive energy from food and water, he must be doing that from energy sources around him, sunlight being one,"
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Extreme dieting (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100510/od_afp/indiasciencedefencefoodoffbeat_20100510111504)
"If Jani does not derive energy from food and water, he must be doing that from energy sources around him, sunlight being one,"
Its simple :wall: He's just permanently wrapped up in Acrapi clothing. This mystically excracts energy from ambient sunlight and beams this as water and nutrients through his skin to keep him fully sustained. I want an Acrapi yoga mat NOW!
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Amazing journalism from The Sutton Coldfield Observer. (http://www.thisissuttoncoldfield.co.uk/news/Swimmers-evacuate-pool-poo-water/article-2126054-detail/article.html)
The Observer understand that the solidity of the matter dictates procedure.
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http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/prague-1965/ (http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/prague-1965/)
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Amazing journalism from The Sutton Coldfield Observer. (http://www.thisissuttoncoldfield.co.uk/news/Swimmers-evacuate-pool-poo-water/article-2126054-detail/article.html)
The Observer understand that the solidity of the matter dictates procedure.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
that's really made my day
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Shouldn't that be in the log pile.
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'What shall we do with Somali pirates, What shall we do with Somali pirates, What shall we do with Somali pirates, throw them in water...WHAT THE.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8675978.stm)
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Thata actually fuckign hilarious "heres your dinghy your free, now FUCK OFF" serves em right.
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Squid sex man faces charges (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/825911-squid-sex-man-facing-charges) :lol:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/marijuana-legalise-california-drugs-cartels (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/marijuana-legalise-california-drugs-cartels)
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Squid sex man faces charges (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/825911-squid-sex-man-facing-charges) :lol:
"He was charged with possessing an image of someone ‘performing an act of intercourse with a dead animal’.
But prosecutors amended the charge when it was admitted it could have been an octopus."
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He probably was skint and just after a shag for sick squid.
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He probably was skint and just after a shag for sick squid.
Groan (cant be bothered to find the tumbleweed emoticon...)
Anyway, try and work Cephalopod into a pun then. I've been trying for 10 min and got no-where.
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He probably was skint and just after a shag for sick squid.
Groan (cant be bothered to find the tumbleweed emoticon...)
Anyway, try and work Cephalopod into a pun then. I've been trying for 10 min and got no-where.
He should have been more careful o' the plod?
....Or probably 8 years away from native English completely ruined my pronunciation?
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http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-doctors-world-has-been-shattered-forever-yet-she-can-expect-no-justice-and-no-closure-20100514-v4mj.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-doctors-world-has-been-shattered-forever-yet-she-can-expect-no-justice-and-no-closure-20100514-v4mj.html)
A dark and ever-so-slightly sinister story from rural Victoria.
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Not a good day at the office (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/ferrari_prang/) but then I suppose it could have been worse. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/nz_spider/)
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Ninja vigilantes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10130346.stm) :lol:
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Ninja vigilantes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10130346.stm) :lol:
I just saw that on the Beeb and came to post it. :thumbsup:Brilliant :thumbsup:, every town needs ninja vigilantes!!
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5 yr olds complete task "too dangerous" for Community Service. (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8173872.Cleaning_up_Brighton_landmark__too_dangerous__for_crooks___but_it_s_fine_for_kids/?ref=mr)
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MMR "Scientist" struck off (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8695267.stm#id8700000/8700000/8700062-audio)
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Pedantically, this isn't news, as it's all been made up and there's not a scrap of truth in this scare-mongering bollocks.
But "Hurrah!", for Poznan Pat say I! (presumably of Worksop, but hey, he might really be from Poznan)
http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/39Take-down-your-flags39.6311368.jp (http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/39Take-down-your-flags39.6311368.jp)
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5 yr olds complete task "too dangerous" for Community Service. (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8173872.Cleaning_up_Brighton_landmark__too_dangerous__for_crooks___but_it_s_fine_for_kids/?ref=mr)
It's political correctness gon…
<ohshit>
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DAB! Back around Norris (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/bonita-norris-everest-mountaineering).
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Perhaps the most apposite name for an alleged drug dealer...
Mr Coke (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/latin_america/10148973.stm#id10140000/10145200/10145295) :lol:
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There aren't half some bastards about on the t'interweb...
http://thegulfblog.com/2010/05/25/viciously-racist-emirati-comments-on-indian-plane-tragedy (http://thegulfblog.com/2010/05/25/viciously-racist-emirati-comments-on-indian-plane-tragedy/)
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There aren't half some bastards about on the t'interweb...
Too right. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8683199.stm)
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There aren't half some bastards about on the t'interweb...
Too right. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8683199.stm)
The perpetrator or the 65yr old woman who followed his activities for a year and a half on-line? :-\ :shrug:
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This is brilliant........
http://www.switched.com/2010/05/25/warner-bros-sued-for-pirating-anti-piracy-tech/ (http://www.switched.com/2010/05/25/warner-bros-sued-for-pirating-anti-piracy-tech/)
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That is indeed brilliant, fuck Warner and DRM.
This is surely wrong (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/10162158.stm#id8570000/8574600/8574600) whilst he might not have been able to see the vehicle when it was pinned up against the front of the truck, there must have been a point just before this where he could have seen the car. Fucking useless policing/court rulings.
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thats crazy. like you say, unless that car was magically teleported onto his front bumper then he should have known it was there.
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Start them young and all that.....
Smoke and a pancake.... (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2987307/First-shocking-pictures-of-smoking-toddler-Ardi-Rizal.html)
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Retarded wanker. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/10159667.stm)
He said that he wanted the views of creationists - the concept of God creating the universe in contrast to the scientific theory of evolution - to be represented in the exhibitions.
FUCK OFF. :rtfm:
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Retarded wanker. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/10159667.stm)
He said that he wanted the views of creationists - the concept of God creating the universe in contrast to the scientific theory of evolution - to be represented in the exhibitions.
FUCK OFF. :rtfm:
:agree: Museums are for science or human history, churches are for cult worshippers.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-&-entertainment/glastonbury-in-last-minute-search-for-replacement-twat-201005262763/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-&-entertainment/glastonbury-in-last-minute-search-for-replacement-twat-201005262763/)
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Albarn's not really in the same league is he:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8706700.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8706700.stm)
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Why doesn't Eavis just bite the bullet and put his hand in his pocket, and hire Sumner…
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Start them young and all that.....
Smoke and a pancake.... (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2987307/First-shocking-pictures-of-smoking-toddler-Ardi-Rizal.html)
Everything you ever need to know about your super-soaraway Sun.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/02/sun-has-paid-out-30000-to-muslim-bus.html (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/02/sun-has-paid-out-30000-to-muslim-bus.html)
(nb. I know it's over a year old, but it still holds true)
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Its not really da-news but dont know where else to put it... :shrug:
It appears that Frij (the milkshake makers) have discovered a new sort of dietary specialism...
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs325.ash1/28397_10150173512920461_880785460_12382751_7794318_n.jpg)
Does that make Stubbsy a veganablist?
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Start them young and all that.....
Smoke and a pancake.... (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2987307/First-shocking-pictures-of-smoking-toddler-Ardi-Rizal.html)
Everything you ever need to know about your super-soaraway Sun.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/02/sun-has-paid-out-30000-to-muslim-bus.html (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/02/sun-has-paid-out-30000-to-muslim-bus.html)
(nb. I know it's over a year old, but it still holds true)
Its frankly amazing that anyone buys pieces of shit like the Sun in this day and age. The scousers have got the right idea.
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Not really amazing though when you consider how many total fucking retards there are in Britain.
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True.
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Why doesn't Eavis just bite the bullet and put his hand in his pocket, and hire Sumner…
Oh but you can't tar good old Sting with the same bru......er......
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/02/stings_defence.html (http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/02/stings_defence.html)
.....forgot about that one.
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Not really amazing though when you consider how many total fucking retards there are in Britain.
:wave:
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Not really amazing though when you consider how many total fucking retards there are in Britain.
Oh come. Not all Sun reades are "total fucking retards" as you so charmingly put it.
Some of them are total fucking cunts.
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[plagiarized]
PSNI gear up for this season's Orange Mivi parades...
[/plagiarized]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/10170966.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/10170966.stm)
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Pedantically, this isn't news, as it's all been made up and there's not a scrap of truth in this scare-mongering bollocks.
But "Hurrah!", for Poznan Pat say I! (presumably of Worksop, but hey, he might really be from Poznan)
http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/39Take-down-your-flags39.6311368.jp (http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/39Take-down-your-flags39.6311368.jp)
More news on that self-same story:
"My seven-year old has higher journalistic standards than the Worksop Guardian" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p007z9gc) (BBC I-player. Sound)
From 12:45 in. (I didn't hear the programme last week - but this is the follow-up to the story above.)
http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/Bogus-cop-is-stoking-up.6325640.jp (http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/news/Bogus-cop-is-stoking-up.6325640.jp)
And on a remarkably similar subject: Compare and contrast
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/BOY-S-ENGLAND-OFFENSIVE/article-2206742-detail/article.html (http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/BOY-S-ENGLAND-OFFENSIVE/article-2206742-detail/article.html)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1281019/Driver-orders-toddler-bus-wearing-offensive-England-football-shirt.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1281019/Driver-orders-toddler-bus-wearing-offensive-England-football-shirt.html)
Now compare and contrast
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Bus-faces-30-complaints-unsubstantiated-England-shirt-claim/article-2217834-detail/article.html (http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Bus-faces-30-complaints-unsubstantiated-England-shirt-claim/article-2217834-detail/article.html)
And the similar story in the Mail.
Oh. You can't. Because the Mail never printed it.
(Thanks once again to the good people at http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/ (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/))
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A billion for G20 security "is worth it" - just who and what are they afraid of?
http://communities.canada.com/shareit/blogs/reality/archive/2010/05/28/a-billion-for-g20-security-is-worth-it-for-whom.aspx (http://communities.canada.com/shareit/blogs/reality/archive/2010/05/28/a-billion-for-g20-security-is-worth-it-for-whom.aspx)
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Anyone surprised? -1 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may/28/mephedrone-cleared-teenage-uk-deaths)
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Anyone surprised? -2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation)
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Anyone surprised? -2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation)
Sigh... the whole EDL thing is not good...
Part of me wonders whether this is more a symptom of people reacting of the policitcs of fear that has evolved since 9-11 - than some cleverly organised C18/NF/BNP right wing uber plan...
Its all a bit sad how in the last 10 years the perception of Muslim communities (largely in the popular press) has gone from them being 'benign and unusual/different' to 'harbouring/developing terrorists and fear..'
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Anyone surprised? -2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation)
Sigh... the whole EDL thing is not good...
Part of me wonders whether this is more a symptom of people reacting of the policitcs of fear that has evolved since 9-11 - than some cleverly organised C18/NF/BNP right wing uber plan...
Its all a bit sad how in the last 10 years the perception of Muslim communities (largely in the popular press) has gone from them being 'benign and unusual/different' to 'harbouring/developing terrorists and fear..'
and this is as depressing as it's terrifying.
The group also appears to be drawing support from the armed forces. Its online armed forces division has 842 members and the EDL says many serving soldiers have attended its demonstrations. A spokeswoman for the EDL, whose husband is a serving soldier, said: "The soldiers are fighting Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and Iraq and the EDL are fighting it here … Not all the armed forces support the English Defence League but a majority do."
So cashier them then!
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Just another Saturday night in Chicago! Puts a few pub brawls in your typical English town centre in perspective though.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/2-wounded-in-separate-shootings.html (http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/2-wounded-in-separate-shootings.html)
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Too right.
Reminds me of this..........
http://oakland.crimespotting.org/ (http://oakland.crimespotting.org/)
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http://oakland.crimespotting.org/ (http://oakland.crimespotting.org/)
The Sheffield Forum would have a field day with something like that.
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Sorry I'm out of the office... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7702913.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45162000/jpg/_45162744_-2.jpg)
The Welsh translates as...
I am not in the office at the moment. Send any work to be translated.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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http://oakland.crimespotting.org/ (http://oakland.crimespotting.org/)
The Sheffield Forum would have a field day with something like that.
I read some stuff on there once. On a par with UKC.
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Friday, 31 October 2008 Sorry I'm out of the office... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7702913.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45162000/jpg/_45162744_-2.jpg)
The Welsh translates as...
I am not in the office at the moment. Send any work to be translated.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Those other recent news headlines you may have missed!
Friday, 18 May 1900 - Mafeking Relieved!
Tuesday, 16 April 1912 - Titanic Sinks!
Monday, 25 January 1965 - Churchill Dead!
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Oops!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7795286/Campaign-fought-on-pack-of-lies-says-David-Laws-rival.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7795286/Campaign-fought-on-pack-of-lies-says-David-Laws-rival.html)
The Conservative candidate who contested the parliamentary seat held by David Laws said last night that the minister’s campaign was based on a “pack of lies”.
Kevin Davis said that Mr Laws’s successful re-election attempt was built on the “premise that he was a squeaky clean MP on expenses”.
The “premise has now turned out to be a lie”, said Mr Davis yesterday, adding that the Liberal Democrat MP should apologise to both his elections rivals and the constituency.
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Those other recent news headlines you may have missed!
It was news to me.
Why hadn't I heard about the Titanic sinking before today :o
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Oops!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7795286/Campaign-fought-on-pack-of-lies-says-David-Laws-rival.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7795286/Campaign-fought-on-pack-of-lies-says-David-Laws-rival.html)
The Conservative candidate who contested the parliamentary seat held by David Laws said last night that the minister’s campaign was based on a “pack of lies”.
Kevin Davis said that Mr Laws’s successful re-election attempt was built on the “premise that he was a squeaky clean MP on expenses”.
The “premise has now turned out to be a lie”, said Mr Davis yesterday, adding that the Liberal Democrat MP should apologise to both his elections rivals and the constituency.
I hadn't realized what a complete and utter cunt this man was:
http://www.bonkers.hall.btinternet.co.uk/liberator.html (http://www.bonkers.hall.btinternet.co.uk/liberator.html)
Laws applies his enthusiasm for economic liberalism in a later essay on health, calling for the replacement of the National Health Service by a national health insurance scheme. He envisages a combination of public, private and voluntary providers, with people either choosing to use a state insurance scheme funded by a health tax on their income or joining an independent scheme. Such is the status of the NHS that any criticism of it is seen as near blasphemous, yet the ideas Laws puts forward operate in many Western European states which are every bit as civilised as Britain and which enjoy better health than we do. Nor is it ridiculous to ask whether the NHS can continue indefinitely as it is presently constituted if scientific innovation continues but people remain no keener to pay higher taxes to fund the resulting increased costs.
David Laws is a multi-millionaire, with a message to poor people - "If you get sick, fuck off and die, because you're not wealthy enough to pay for your treatment"
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Not really news but thought it better here than qualityvids thread. An hour long speech by Noam Chomsky http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/31/noam_chomsky_the_center_cannot_hold (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/31/noam_chomsky_the_center_cannot_hold)
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Cairngorm still open for skiing.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/UK/Cairngorm-Mountain-Ski-Resort-Stays-Open-In-Scotland-Into-June-As-Snow-Continues-To-Fall/Article/201006115641483 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/UK/Cairngorm-Mountain-Ski-Resort-Stays-Open-In-Scotland-Into-June-As-Snow-Continues-To-Fall/Article/201006115641483)
Be great if they make it to solstice.
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WHAT? WTF???!!!
Whitehaven, and West Cumbria. Now.
"Several Dead"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm)
Several people have been killed after gunman opened fire in several areas of west Cumbria.
Cumbria Police said the suspect, who fired shots in Whitehaven, Seascale and Egremont, is believed to be heading towards the central Lakes area.
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WHAT? WTF???!!!
Whitehaven, and West Cumbria. Now.
"Several Dead"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm)
Several people have been killed after gunman opened fire in several areas of west Cumbria.
Cumbria Police said the suspect, who fired shots in Whitehaven, Seascale and Egremont, is believed to be heading towards the central Lakes area.
Hope all you lakes boys (and your friends and families) are unaffected
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Suicides at Chinese factory responsible for producing iPads & iPhones.
http://goodelectronics.org/news-en/dying-young-the-foxconn-suicides-and-china2019s-booming-economy/ (http://goodelectronics.org/news-en/dying-young-the-foxconn-suicides-and-china2019s-booming-economy/) gotta love globalization.
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The worst thing in that is Foxconn's admissions in some of the cases, like suicide is just a matter of fact part of business. Which of course, it is.
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I've read the Cheney / Deepwater Horizon connection from a few different sources now. Adequately explained here.........
http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2010/05/06/barack-obama-dick-cheney-and-the-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill/ (http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2010/05/06/barack-obama-dick-cheney-and-the-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill/)
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Interesting reading, and not surprising at all.
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Sorry I'm out of the office... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7702913.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45162000/jpg/_45162744_-2.jpg)
The Welsh translates as...
I am not in the office at the moment. Send any work to be translated.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
on the same page
• In the same year, a sign for pedestrians in Cardiff reading 'Look Right' in English read 'Look Left' in Welsh.
Are we sure that was a mistake? ;)
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How the fuck is Israel allowed to get away with this shit again and again and again?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla)
:furious:
This (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/05/31/israels-biggest-enemy-is-itself/) is quite a shitly written piece for the most but this bit is spot on:
It’s been clear for years that the Israeli right is utterly dependent on the looniest fringe of Palestinian society for their power and legitimacy, and that both sets of nutters use violence against the other as a means to cementing their rule.
The basic situation over there is that both Hamas and the Israeli government are committed to policies that harm their populations but ensure their own continued rule. It’s a godawful, mutual death spiral that’s heading in precisely the wrong direction.
Shorter – there really is an urgent and perilous threat to Israel. It’s called “the Israeli government”.
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This isn't news but it IS an absolutely brilliant article / book review about Prohibition and the "War on Drugs".
READ IT!!! (http://www.slate.com/id/2255385/)
:rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:
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How the fuck is Israel allowed to get away with this shit again and again and again?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla)
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This (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/05/31/israels-biggest-enemy-is-itself/) is quite a shitly written piece for the most but this bit is spot on:
It’s been clear for years that the Israeli right is utterly dependent on the looniest fringe of Palestinian society for their power and legitimacy, and that both sets of nutters use violence against the other as a means to cementing their rule.
The basic situation over there is that both Hamas and the Israeli government are committed to policies that harm their populations but ensure their own continued rule. It’s a godawful, mutual death spiral that’s heading in precisely the wrong direction.
Shorter – there really is an urgent and perilous threat to Israel. It’s called “the Israeli government”.
From what I've seen the IDF action on the boat was reasoned, proportionate and justified. The Isreali blockade is a different subject entirely.
Maybe I'd have more time for the pro Palestinian lobby if there were fewer anti-semitic morons and terrorist sympathisers amongst their ranks.
I am always amazed at how people can get so upset about Palestine and ignore things that are just categorically worse on every measure. It's a bit like protesting about foie gras and ignoring the battery chicken issue.
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How the fuck is Israel allowed to get away with this shit again and again and again?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla)
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This (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/05/31/israels-biggest-enemy-is-itself/) is quite a shitly written piece for the most but this bit is spot on:
It’s been clear for years that the Israeli right is utterly dependent on the looniest fringe of Palestinian society for their power and legitimacy, and that both sets of nutters use violence against the other as a means to cementing their rule.
The basic situation over there is that both Hamas and the Israeli government are committed to policies that harm their populations but ensure their own continued rule. It’s a godawful, mutual death spiral that’s heading in precisely the wrong direction.
Shorter – there really is an urgent and perilous threat to Israel. It’s called “the Israeli government”.
From what I've seen the IDF action on the boat was reasoned, proportionate and justified. The Isreali blockade is a different subject entirely.
Maybe I'd have more time for the pro Palestinian lobby if there were fewer anti-semitic morons and terrorist sympathisers amongst their ranks.
I am always amazed at how people can get so upset about Palestine and ignore things that are just categorically worse on every measure. It's a bit like protesting about foie gras and ignoring the battery chicken issue.
How can the "pro-Palestinians" be "anti-Semitic", when the Palestinians are a Semitic people themselves?
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Huwaida Arraf, chairperson of the Free Gaza Movement, and retired US Col. Ann Wright were on the flotilla when it was attacked. They join us to describe the assault and their subsequent detention in Israeli prison. We also speak to Sawsan Zaher, a staff attorney at Adalah, the Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, who interviewed many of the activists in detention.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/3/huwaida (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/3/huwaida)
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Alicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.
First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,
secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.
The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.
The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.
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"There are ways you can stop even passenger ship like that ferry boat, and certainly like our little thirty-foot craft. You don’t have to use commandos with—I mean, you can use commandos with excessive force, which they do, but there are other ways to do it, if you want to kind of preserve a sense of civility, humanity, and meeting the international law, quite honestly. " Ann Wright is a retired Army colonel, a former US diplomat. She spent twenty-nine years in the military and later served as a high-ranking diplomat in the State Department. In 2001, she helped oversee the reopening of the US mission in Afghanistan. In 2003, she resigned her State Department post to protest the war in Iraq. She was on the Freedom Flotilla and just deported to Turkey.
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Have you spent much time in Israel Sloper?
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I'm not even going to bother.
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It's a statement of the flipping obvious that Israel is a Middle Eastern state but western protesters filled with righteous indignation appear endlessly surprised that its police and military are fairly tough and trigger happy.
The land is not populated by Jackes, lovely liberal educated Germans, but people from other Arab countries and Eastern Europe who have never had any reason to trust their neighbours and nothing that has happened gives them cause to change their minds. This together with a trend in the rest of the region, the formerly secular state has become increasingly religious and right wing. There was a lovely article reprinted in, I think, the Observer or its horrid sister, showing how few American Jews have less and less interest and connection with Israel, it's no longer a normative focus for world Jewry.
The Eastern Mediterranean is not Parliament Square so don't be so bloody shocked that it protects its borders and, like Egypt, maintains the blockade with such enthusiasm.
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Alicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.
First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,
secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.
The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.
The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.
So fucking what?
It's irrelevant what is or isn't accepted. The word "Semite" refers to a group of peoples who share a common language root, whether you, or anyone else like it or not.
And who said anything about pro-Palestinians being Palestinian?
I said pro-Palestinian was not anti-Semite. As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.
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As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.
Are you sure about them being "mutually exclusive (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+mutually+exclusive)"? It means that they can't occur at the same time, yet if one is a sub-group of the other then by definition it belongs to the higher level grouping and can occur at the same time, so Palestinians are not mutually exclusive of being Semitic.
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They are not a sub group they are semites. The first use of anti-semitism came about with rise of Zionism.
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They are not a sub group they are semites. The first use of anti-semitism came about with rise of Zionism.
That's a little confused. Anti-semitism does and only ever has referred to Jews and none other. There's some very odd use of the term where Jews with other groups from the region are squashed together but that is, without exception, in anti-Zionist literature.
As for the term itself. I don't doubt that you are right about the time of its first use but that is more to do with German scientism than the fact of anti-Judaism in history.
There is a, seemingly, hundred page discussion in Jonathan Littell's, 'The kindly ones', where the Germans have to decide whether or not a Jewish people in eastern USSR are racially semitic and to be annihilated or merely culturally or religiously Jewish and, I suppose, starved to death. You should read it, it's like a decent into hell and tremendous fun.
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The font of all disinformation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-semitism) has some information on this (even a specific section on the aetiology).
Citeable sources that contradict what is written there should, in the spirit of Wikipedia, be added to the article.
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The book sounds interesting Mike and is winging it's way via amazon.
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Alicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.
First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,
secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.
The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.
The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.
So fucking what?
It's irrelevant what is or isn't accepted. The word "Semite" refers to a group of peoples who share a common language root, whether you, or anyone else like it or not.
And who said anything about pro-Palestinians being Palestinian?
I said pro-Palestinian was not anti-Semite. As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.
Just fuck off. You try and misrepresent what I've said and thenm wallow in the sub Chomsky type of bullshit that even pretneitous 15 year olds would see through.
As for 'so fucking what', I'll tell you so fucking what, the 'antisemitic bullshit' it's rhetorical flousirh of the tardo and the cunts who are too cowarldy to come out and admit that they just don't like us jews. By your reasoning, you'd presumably say that yid, paki etc aren't racist terms of abuse just contractions of yiddish, pakistani etc that British people can't be black and so on.
Come on, just be honest, you don't like jews do you and want to hide your hate under a veil of linguistic garbage? So regardless whether you're a moron or a racist cunt looking for a fight; if you're looking for a fight let me know I'm really in the mood.
As I said at the outset the blockade is Gaza is one thing but on this occasion the IDF looks a lot more restrianed than our out Metroploitan Police.
Or were you saying so fucking what about Hamas turning away the aid that the people tried to deliver, cause yeah we'd all rather see people suffer than accept aid that's been touched by the enemy / jews :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
Hamas have no belief in peace, no desire to see a two state solution and are prepared to sacrifice the lives and well being of 'their people' in pursuit of the their disgusting aims. That you appear to support their actions says more about you than I could.
Ohh and don't be drawn into the mistake of thinking I wouldn't say to your face what I've said here.
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I can't stand it when people just take tribal stances on political issues. ;)
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"KEVIN OVENDEN: What happened was that there were the initial gunshots of what we presumed to be rubberized bullets. I hesitate to say rubber bullets, because they’re steel bullets with a rubber coating. And then very, very rapidly afterwards—I’m talking a matter of some seconds afterwards—there was the unmistakable sound of live fire, and we started to take heavy casualties.
A colleague of mine, a New Zealander with Viva Palestina called Nicci Enchmarch, she was on the top deck. She was next to a man, a Turkish man, who was holding a camera. He was shot directly through the forehead. The bullet, the exit wound, blew away the back third of his skull, and she cradled him as he died. " This is prior to the ships being boarded Sloper so I don't understand how you can say the IDF acted in a proper way?
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/4/as_obama_refuses_to_condemn_flotilla (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/4/as_obama_refuses_to_condemn_flotilla)
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And Robert Fisk on the nail as always http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-truth-behind-the-israeli-propaganda-1991803.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-truth-behind-the-israeli-propaganda-1991803.html)
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Really Sloper. Sticking up for one's principles is one thing but blindly apologising for every act of murder and terrorism committed by the Israeli military and then playing the race card is just too much. I understand the passion but you're doing yourself no favours mate.
I happen to know that aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB is no racist and no anti-semite just like the massive majority of people who are angered and disgusted again and again by the actions of the Israeli government.
And of course Hamas are a bunch of cunts. Deploring the actions of one side does not have to indicate support for the other.
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And of course Hamas are a bunch of cunts. Deploring the actions of one side does not have to indicate support for the other.
Amen to that.
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Really Sloper. Sticking up for one's principles is one thing but blindly apologising for every act of murder and terrorism committed by the Israeli military and then playing the race card is just too much. I understand the passion but you're doing yourself no favours mate.
I happen to know that aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB is no racist and no anti-semite just like the massive majority of people who are angered and disgusted again and again by the actions of the Israeli government.
And of course Hamas are a bunch of cunts. Deploring the actions of one side does not have to indicate support for the other.
That's just what you WOULD say you anti-semite.
ANTI-SEMITE!!!!!
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Pubs can start claiming PPL refunds (http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=67175)
(Might also affect some climbing walls that pay the PPL :shrug:)
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Gove steps on Milliband's banana skin:
http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco/Post:18fbd167-225b-4a21-80d7-ed0b14007a03 (http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco/Post:18fbd167-225b-4a21-80d7-ed0b14007a03)
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Wha......wha.....WHAT!!!???
Littlejohn ADMITS HE WAS WRONG AND APOLOGISES!!!???
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/06/08/worlds-first-richard-littlejohn-apologises-admits-he-didnt-do-research/ (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/06/08/worlds-first-richard-littlejohn-apologises-admits-he-didnt-do-research/)
:o
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Alicroberts, what utter cock and you ough to know it.
First of all, not all the pro palestinians are palestinians,
secondly it's widely accepted that the term antisemitic does not refer to people with a supposed root, it's a bit like someone saying 'I'm not racist I hate all foreigners equally'.
The facts are simple the IDF personnel were 'brutally attacked' and then responded. The people that attacked the IDF were looking for a fight and they can't complain that they got one.
The fact that Hamas have refused to accept the aid because it was brought to Gaza by the Israeli's should tell you all you need to know.
So fucking what?
It's irrelevant what is or isn't accepted. The word "Semite" refers to a group of peoples who share a common language root, whether you, or anyone else like it or not.
And who said anything about pro-Palestinians being Palestinian?
I said pro-Palestinian was not anti-Semite. As Palestinians are a sub-group of Semitic peoples, by definition, the two are mutually exclusive.
Just fuck off. You try and misrepresent what I've said and thenm wallow in the sub Chomsky type of bullshit that even pretneitous 15 year olds would see through.
As for 'so fucking what', I'll tell you so fucking what, the 'antisemitic bullshit' it's rhetorical flousirh of the tardo and the cunts who are too cowarldy to come out and admit that they just don't like us jews. By your reasoning, you'd presumably say that yid, paki etc aren't racist terms of abuse just contractions of yiddish, pakistani etc that British people can't be black and so on.
Come on, just be honest, you don't like jews do you and want to hide your hate under a veil of linguistic garbage? So regardless whether you're a moron or a racist cunt looking for a fight; if you're looking for a fight let me know I'm really in the mood.
As I said at the outset the blockade is Gaza is one thing but on this occasion the IDF looks a lot more restrianed than our out Metroploitan Police.
Or were you saying so fucking what about Hamas turning away the aid that the people tried to deliver, cause yeah we'd all rather see people suffer than accept aid that's been touched by the enemy / jews :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
Hamas have no belief in peace, no desire to see a two state solution and are prepared to sacrifice the lives and well being of 'their people' in pursuit of the their disgusting aims. That you appear to support their actions says more about you than I could.
Ohh and don't be drawn into the mistake of thinking I wouldn't say to your face what I've said here.
I'm going to have to go away and consider a response to this.
I shall get back to you, and, rest assured, it wouldn't be anything I wouldn't say to you either.
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I wouldn't bother. Discussing this with a jewish lawyer isn't likely to reach a resolution.
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Veteran White House Reporter Helen Thomas Retires After Israel Remarks.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/8/veteran_white_house_reporter_helen_thomas (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/8/veteran_white_house_reporter_helen_thomas)
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Ladies and Gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelt as we are making our final approach to landing (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid69104947001?bctid=90749269001)
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Pie challenge (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6584WO20100609) :lol:
Donna Simpson, 42, weighs more than 600 pounds (272 kg)
"I'm very healthy. I go to the doctor every three months," she said.
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No shit sherlock (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10289009.stm)
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No Bull! Really No Bull! (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/matador-arrested-and-fined-for-running-away-2000835.html) :lol:
European Digital Agenda (http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=359)
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European Digital Agenda (http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=359)
'kinell. That's a step in the right direction.
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Darth Vader may have had a personality disorder (http://holykaw.alltop.com/darth-vader-may-have-suffered-from-borderline)
:wall: Shit like this really pisses me off, its as bad as poor science, no its worse than that, its not even science, yet its dressed up as such 'cause its published in a peer reviewed journal. The authors should ditch trying to pscyho-analyse fictional characters and instead focus on real-life problems. :wank:
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Made me laugh this, (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/10311542.stm) UKC user gets job as journalist?
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Spot on from Fry.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jun/16/stephen-fry-doctor-who (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jun/16/stephen-fry-doctor-who)
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How to combat Hell's angels (http://af.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idAFTRE65E34120100615), I am however disappointed that there are no photos of the event
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Hurrah! This should finish the bent fuckers. Wont change anything though. :greed: :greed: :greed:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/16/ernst-and-young-lehman-inquiry (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/16/ernst-and-young-lehman-inquiry)
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'Special' deals with your Burger up in Driffield....
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html)
(http://i.thisis.co.uk/275561/article/images/2310980/1622631-vlarge.jpg)
Relished by their customers... the police gave them a grilling... :whistle:
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eugh, I wouldn't want them handling my jumbo sausage :P
Five break out of prison and get caught. Though from the end tag line I suspect they expect it will happen again (http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/8220778.Five_arrested_after_Thorn_Cross_break_out/)
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'Special' deals with your Burger up in Driffield....
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html)
Great comments:
The thought police are stiffling free enterprise in this country.
Why not raid McDonalds for trading as a "resteruant" when thry clearly are nothing of the sort.
When was the last time you visited a proper resteraunt where you had to queue up to order, the "food" came in a cardboard box and you ate it with your fingers or a prison issue plastic fork?
Alan Sugar, Ivory Towers
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#Sunfail (http://www.wallblog.co.uk/2010/06/16/the-suns-online-world-cup-sweepstake-backfires-as-it-angers-football-bloggers/)
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What would MacGyver do? (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Arm-Amputation-Jonathan-Metz-Thought-Of-Action-Hero-Macgyver-Before-Cutting-Into-His-Trapped-Limb/Article/201006315650074?f=rss)
Some genius comments below :lol:
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'Special' deals with your Burger up in Driffield....
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html)
(http://i.thisis.co.uk/275561/article/images/2310980/1622631-vlarge.jpg)
Relished by their customers... the police gave them a grilling... :whistle:
That story reminded me of this one from a few years back...
http://www.whitehaven-news.co.uk/brothel_owner_could_lose_house_1_373881?referrerPath=home/send_us_your_news (http://www.whitehaven-news.co.uk/brothel_owner_could_lose_house_1_373881?referrerPath=home/send_us_your_news)
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/rape_and_spillage_201006161/ (http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/rape_and_spillage_201006161/) Robert Scheer on Obamas new war on oil.
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might hear more about Kyrgyzstan if it wasn't all about the world cup (http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/kyrgyzstan-uzbekistan-news-160610)
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[noembed]Turns out leaving chalk on problems could give you better conditions.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/latin_america/10333304.stm#id10330000/10333000/10333079)[/noembed]
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One of the most retarded laws in the world, jaywalking, earnt someone a smart right hook..
jaywalking (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10336500.stm#id10330000/10336600/10336613)
[noembed]Turns out leaving chalk on problems could give you better conditions.... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/latin_america/10333304.stm#id10330000/10333000/10333079)[/noembed]
I wonder if an industrial chicken (from where the industrial egg white presumably comes) is any bigger than a battery hen?
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'Special' deals with your Burger up in Driffield....
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Driffield-burger-van-seized-police-offering-customers-free-pr0n-DVD/article-2310980-detail/article.html)
(http://i.thisis.co.uk/275561/article/images/2310980/1622631-vlarge.jpg)
Relished by their customers... the police gave them a grilling... :whistle:
"The operation went well and we are now looking at the evidence to see what offences have been committed."
I'll bet they are.
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With Rumored Manhunt for Wikileaks Founder and Arrest of Alleged Leaker of Video Showing Iraq Killings, Obama Admin Escalates Crackdown on Whistleblowers of Classified Information http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/17/wikileaks_whistleblowers (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/17/wikileaks_whistleblowers)
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With Rumored Manhunt for Wikileaks Founder and Arrest of Alleged Leaker of Video Showing Iraq Killings, Obama Admin Escalates Crackdown on Whistleblowers of Classified Information http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/17/wikileaks_whistleblowers (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/17/wikileaks_whistleblowers)
They'll be safe in Iceland (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-06/17/iceland-passes-world%27s-strongest-press-freedom-laws) :)
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You couldn't make it up... (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65E39Q20100615) ;D
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You couldn't make it up... (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65E39Q20100615) ;D
Deja vu..
How to combat Hell's angels (http://af.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idAFTRE65E34120100615), I am however disappointed that there are no photos of the event
Should have just called 'em Fags
Interview with Fag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoPybh5G8jE&NR=1#ws)
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Feck :spank:
Another strange animal story... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100616/od_afp/usanimalturtleoffbeat_20100616195310)
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That turtle needs to go on a media course :whistle:
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Feck :spank:
Another strange animal story... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100616/od_afp/usanimalturtleoffbeat_20100616195310)
May as well include the video
Sea Turtle Finds Lost Camera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E43sg-Ytt58#)
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More non-stop zany knockabout fun (http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/8222342._I_wish_Cumbrian_murderer_shot_illegal_immigrants__says_BNP_election_candidate/?ref=mr) from those larrikin japesters down at the BNP.
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Why the fuck isn't this already being done? (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-06/22/europe-sahara-solar-power) :shrug:
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Why the fuck isn't this already being done? (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-06/22/europe-sahara-solar-power)
Photovoltaics cost a fortune compared to every other form of electricity generation. It's hard to even break-even before it's rotted away if you stick one on your roof in the UK. Apparently the area of the Sahara is 9,400,000 km² so covering 'just 5%' would cost the GDP of a small planet. Also, only the very very best PV cells are 20% efficient, unless you want to strap it to a satellite typical efficiency is 10% so you can double that area straight away (giving an area equivalent to four times the UK).
On the plus side, in reality they'd use concentrator systems using mirrors and lenses to reduce the are of PV they need (although that makes the required area for all the bits and pieces even bigger) and PV cells are gradually getting more efficient and cheaper.
Until fuel gets very expensive and PV gets a lot cheaper it's not going to happen without masses of multi-national government help.
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Why the fuck isn't this already being done? (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-06/22/europe-sahara-solar-power) :shrug:
From what they were saying on Radio 4's open country or whatever it was on Radio 4 or the World service a couple of years ago. The reason why it wasn't done already was down to the infrastructure costs in relation to the direct benefit from this generation of 'Green' technology. Different countries had different grid set ups and some elements were incompatible. As a result what was percieved as a direct black and white energy transfer was a myriad of greys and they needed to get the 'grey' tolerance closer to black and white as well as the direct benefit to meet CBA studies to sell it as a concept.
or that could be a heap of :wank: :P
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Oh I don't doubt that there are technological hurdles to overcome, but just because something is difficult doesn't meant it shouldn't be tried.
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Oh I don't doubt that there are technological hurdles to overcome, but just because something is difficult doesn't meant it shouldn't be tried.
True, but its all about the money and share holders want the dividends now not shove money into some altruistic scheme that may take a few years to iron out and then discover the technology doesn't match up with new stuff further down the line.
Bisous
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Oh I don't doubt that there are technological hurdles to overcome, but just because something is difficult doesn't meant it shouldn't be tried.
Are you channelling JFK?
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Fuck off The Daily Star you disgusting, racist bunch of utter cunts:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/119278/Return-of-the-the-black-shirts-/ (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/119278/Return-of-the-the-black-shirts-/)
:wank: :wank: :wank:
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Oh my fucking God they even included a picture of Hitler. This makes me embarrassed to be English for fucks sake:
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/sport-news/football/world-football/2010/01/28/germany-world-cup-strip/english-newspaper-nazi-black-shirts-scandal.html (http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/sport-news/football/world-football/2010/01/28/germany-world-cup-strip/english-newspaper-nazi-black-shirts-scandal.html)
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This makes me embarrassed to be English for fucks sake:
:agree: biggots!
Luckily I'm Scottish :P
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Happier world cup story, jammy bar steward... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100623/wl_asia_afp/australiafblwc2010offbeatball_20100623091340)
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Butt plugs? (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Two-Australian-Men-In-Hospital-After-Shooting-Each-Other-In-The-Buttocks-With-An-Air-Rifle-For-Fun/Article/201006415653627?f=rss)
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Is he a rapper or is he a dealer? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/10386731.stm#id10380000/10387900/10387925-audio) :lol:
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Fuck off The Daily Star you disgusting, racist bunch of utter cunts:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/119278/Return-of-the-the-black-shirts-/ (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/119278/Return-of-the-the-black-shirts-/)
:wank: :wank: :wank:
what a shower of shit, shame on them, and shame on all the people (who are these retards?) who buy their tawdry rag and keep them in business.
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Oh my fucking God they even included a picture of Hitler. This makes me embarrassed to be English for fucks sake:
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/sport-news/football/world-football/2010/01/28/germany-world-cup-strip/english-newspaper-nazi-black-shirts-scandal.html (http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/sport-news/football/world-football/2010/01/28/germany-world-cup-strip/english-newspaper-nazi-black-shirts-scandal.html)
Surely I'm not going to be the first to comment on the irony of Bild using the phrase "Trashy Tabloid"?
(Or that like I did, fail to spot it's several months old, and proceed to post it elsewhere on the interweb like a numpty)
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Australia looks set to have a woman PM this morning (our time.)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/ (http://www.abc.net.au/news/)
What I like is that she is a girl from the wrong side of Melbourne who talks a little bit like an extra from Kath & Kim!
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Should know in 35 mins - tho shes at $1.20 to take the job with Kev having less chance than the socceroos (and yes, thats what they really call them) making the last 16
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(Or that like I did, fail to spot it's several months old, and proceed to post it elsewhere on the interweb like a numpty)
Yeah I realised that after I'd posted it but hadn't seen the article at the time it came out. I saw it linked on Twitter.
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Cor blimey there's some serious posts in this thread. I'm sure it used to be all light-hearted. Here's one to hark back to the good old days. Horse-boy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east_orkney_and_shetland/10401345.stm)
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Here's one to hark back to the good old days. Horse-boy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east_orkney_and_shetland/10401345.stm)
Nice :great:
Street View link to Horse-boy (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Hardgate,+Aberdeen&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=19.543246,56.99707&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hardgate,+Aberdeen+AB11,+United+Kingdom&ll=57.129322,-2.115169&spn=0,0.055661&z=15&layer=c&cbll=57.129415,-2.115094&panoid=QggzteTMpstCiTEM6t2QzA&cbp=12,153.09,,0,14.02) :lol:
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Robo-cat!
Bionic Cat (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10404251.stm#id10400000/10407900/10407997)
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Read it and weep right wing Yank fucktards!
Quell surprise, NHS shits all over US healthcare system. (http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/Publications/Fund-Reports/2010/Jun/Mirror-Mirror-Update.aspx)
;D
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Robo-cat!
Surely that should be in Magpie's thread?!
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Robo-cat!
Surely that should be in Magpie's thread?!
I flipped a coin and "Da News" won.
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http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm)
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http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm)
:o Mind you its the US, I should never be surprised at the extent of some idiots there.
To balance it with some UK humour...
I'm with Stupid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east_orkney_and_shetland/10412257.stm)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48170000/jpg/_48170611_tornado_stupid_pin_466.jpg)
(Quite why its in the North East, Orkney and Shetland section when the report indicates the sighting was in Snowdonia I've no idea!)
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http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm)
God Bless America!
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http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/06/24/28330.htm)
God Bless America!
fuck me.
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(Quite why its in the North East, Orkney and Shetland section when the report indicates the sighting was in Snowdonia I've no idea!) (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=RAF+Lossiemouth,+Moray+IV30,+United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=RAF+Lossiemouth&gl=uk&ei=XcgkTMTSHZLu0wTu_4nIBA&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA&ct=clnk&cd=1&geocode=FZaHcAMdzhHN_w&split=0)
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Ah, I see, t'was where they'd taken off from, seems like there's prime scope for saving Government expenditure by doing low-level flying exercises in Scotland near to the base instead of flying down to Snowdonia.
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(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9814/119706284.jpg)
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(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9814/119706284.jpg)
We need a link to that article now!!
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Ta-daaaa!! (http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/woman-in-sumo-wrestler-suit-assaulted-her-exgirlfriend-in-gay-pub-2231315.html)
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Real cause of massive debt was caused by finance sector, not people's social programs. "Well, it seems to depend upon where you sit. If you're a big bank right now that's loaded up on Treasury bonds, paying zero and earning 3.5 percent, the thing that can hurt you is interest rates go to 5 percent, which they would do if the economy recovered. So you have essentially used what I'll call the yield curve trade, the riskless yield curve trade of the Treasury market on the balance sheet of big banks to create a coalition for maintained austerity."
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5320 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5320)
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PC Twat strikes again (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/officers-claim-they-dont-need-law-to-stop-photographer-taking-pictures-2012827.html) :wank: :spank: :rtfm: :read:
Photographer detained in Romford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQucfv0slOE#)
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That's one impressively self-possessed 16 year old!
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No more "high-gravity day" excuses (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8767763.stm#id10430000/10436600/10436668-audio)
Although I can't tell if yellow is high-gravity, or low. If it's high, then everyone's ticks in Hampi should lose a grade ;D
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Steve Paikin, veteran Canadian journalist, describes arrest and beating of Guardian newspaper journalist.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5328 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5328)
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Be careful with your apples and pears (and oranges and coconuts)! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8771721.stm)
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Made me chuckle
BBC News - Schoolboy climbs wall with vacuums (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10458134.stm#id10450000/10458100/10458134)
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What's the longest extension lead you can get?
Teacher has impressive mat shuffling skills.
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Teacher has impressive mat shuffling skills.
i'm sure he'd be willing to spot you chris if you also fancy doing a climbing related GCSE CDT realisation!
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Fuk-yeeee (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/30/voodoo_master/) ::)
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Fuk-yeeee (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/30/voodoo_master/) ::)
The victim, known only as Miss X, met 63-year-old acoustics technician Lo Fuk-yee* through his girlfriend Wong Mei-yin, "who was the janitor at X's school".
Oh dear.
grumpycrumpy to thread…
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A photo Journalist describes his experience following the black block as they rampage through the streets of Toronto during the G20 Summit. 20,000 police and security officials and a $1 billion security budget were not enough to stop 75-100 black block anarchists from smashing windows and torching police cars during a 1.5 hour rampage. The Black Block were able to rampage through the street for 24 blocks until they reached the 'official protest zone' where they quickly changed clothes dispersed through the crowd of peaceful protesters and then left the site. The police were fully aware of the rampage and watched the black block from a distance at a number of locations. It wasn't until they had dispersed into a crowd of peaceful protesters who thought that they were in a sanctioned area that the police took action beating innocent people with batons and spraying them with pepper spray.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5332 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5332)
TORONTO G-20 - THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5331 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5331)
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http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/06/04/nick-clegg-to-play-with-tiny-steering-wheel-during-prime-minister%e2%80%99s-questions/ (http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/06/04/nick-clegg-to-play-with-tiny-steering-wheel-during-prime-minister%e2%80%99s-questions/) :whistle:
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I'm Sparticus!
(http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/areyougay.jpg)
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:lol:
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Should have just stuck their thumb out (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/10483734.stm)
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With friends like that... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/10482784.stm)
Blood == injury == ambulance not fucking police, and leaving someone on your doorstep when they're injured and cold and its freezing is pretty uncivilized.
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Should have just stuck their thumb out (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/10483734.stm)
Any terrorist group need not blow things up - organise a co-ordinated nationwide fake limb dumping during rush hour to cause untold chaos!
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By now, you probably think your opinion of Goldman Sachs and its swarm of Wall Street allies has rock-bottomed at raw loathing. You're wrong. There's more. It turns out that the most destructive of all their recent acts has barely been discussed at all. Here's the rest. This is the story of how some of the richest people in the world – Goldman, Deutsche Bank, the traders at Merrill Lynch, and more – have caused the starvation of some of the poorest people in the world.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-goldman-gambled-on-starvation-2016088.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-goldman-gambled-on-starvation-2016088.html)
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Fucking scumbags. :thumbsdown:
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By now, you probably think your opinion of Goldman Sachs and its swarm of Wall Street allies has rock-bottomed at raw loathing. You're wrong. There's more. It turns out that the most destructive of all their recent acts has barely been discussed at all. Here's the rest. This is the story of how some of the richest people in the world – Goldman, Deutsche Bank, the traders at Merrill Lynch, and more – have caused the starvation of some of the poorest people in the world.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-goldman-gambled-on-starvation-2016088.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-goldman-gambled-on-starvation-2016088.html)
That is an incredible article. Well written and devastating in content. My jaw genuinely dropped when I read it....
They just think its all a game don't they! FFS.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10495634.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10495634.stm)
News from happy bunny cuddly fluffy cloud land.
"What I want is legislation that makes it a criminal offence to buy up large numbers of tickets, with a view to selling them at a profit," she says.
"If that wasn't allowed, people wouldn't do it."
Yes. Of course dear. (Metaphorically pats head, before wandering off, shaking own head sadly)
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(http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/022009/mangled_by_a_zebra.jpg)
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Is it bad that I read the bit about the camp source, as being a source who was rather camp. Couldn't get Frank Spencer's voice out of my head.
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That can't be real. Did Graeme write it?
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No idea where it came from, was on another forum. Probably the work of the Sunday Sport or something.
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Mmmmmm tasty new jam (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Dianas-Hair-Jam-Art-Exhibition-At-Barbican-In-London-Sells-Jam-Made-From-Princesses-Locks/Article/201007115659526?f=rss)
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Space telescope captures images of Big Bang's 'afterglow'.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/space-telescope-captures-images-of-big-bangs-afterglow-2018909.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/space-telescope-captures-images-of-big-bangs-afterglow-2018909.html)
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(http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx92/SpanishJuan/warringtonCCTVcopy.jpg)
Warrington Midweek June 29th 2010
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To start with not everyone has iFern's, but more importantly how can 53,000 downloads be made for an application that is of use to people seeking jobs? How the fuck can they afford iFern's and the contracts in the first place if they're looking for work and most probably on benefits? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10514367.stm)
On a lighter note Psychic octopus predicts Spain World Cup victory (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/psychic+octopus+predicts+spain+world+cup+victory/3701387)
Paul the Octopus...who was born in Weymouth before moving to Germany.
:lol: Like he had any choice in the matter :lol:
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Unfortunate named runners compete in 200metres (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6622I420100703)
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Its a rabbit mate, honest..... (http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0708/penguin.html)
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Vybz Kartel (feat. Popcaan Vannessa Bling) - Clarkes [Official Music Video Leak] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ZHrEkLCZQ#)
The song that apparently started a crime spree in Jamaica (http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20100427/news/news1.html).
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Hackney wheel clamping firm threatens serious legal action with no basis in law..........oh no, it's actually the Council:
http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/07/improper-and-disgraceful-conduct-of.html (http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/07/improper-and-disgraceful-conduct-of.html)
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BP Oil Spill Cleanup Workers Getting Sick, Exxon Valdez Survivor Warns of Long Term Health Effects :(
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/7/bp_oil_spill_cleanup_workers_getting (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/7/bp_oil_spill_cleanup_workers_getting)
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Supporters of geoengineering have proposed radical ways to alter the planet to decrease the level of greenhouse gas emissions. Proposals include creating artificial volcanoes to pollute the atmosphere with sulfur particles, fertilizing the oceans and placing sun-deflecting aluminum foil in the sky. But opposition is growing to geoengineering. We host a debate between Indian environmentalist, scientist, philosopher and eco-feminist, Vandana Shiva, and geopolitical analyst and columnist, Gwynne Dyer.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/8/a_debate_on_geoengineering_vandana_shiva (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/8/a_debate_on_geoengineering_vandana_shiva)
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Where you guys get all your happy/funny news from I don'y know ;D
As a heat wave from Boston to Baghdad to Beijing sets record-breaking temperatures in cities across the world, a new analysis says the world is headed for an average temperature rise that far exceeds pledges at the Copenhagen climate conference last year. We speak with geopolitical analyst and columnist Gwynne Dyer about his new book, "Climate Wars: The Fight for Survival as the World Overheats."
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/8/gwynne_dyer_on_climate_wars_the (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/8/gwynne_dyer_on_climate_wars_the)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293165/Nanny-30-died-sexual-arousal-watching-pr0nography.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293165/Nanny-30-died-sexual-arousal-watching-pr0nography.html)
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frigging hell!
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Gazza aids police in negotiations with gunman (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10500959.stm)
2222 BST: The BBC's Fiona Trott says former footballer Paul Gascoigne appeared a short while ago at the police cordon. She says he posed for some pictures with children before driving off.
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More details (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/07/12/gazza-i-m-so-gutted-about-pal-115875-22406836/)
Football legend Paul Gascoigne said he was "gutted" that Moat is dead and claimed: "He was a good friend of mine."....
He arrived in a taxi with a black holdall carrying a fishing rod, a white dressing gown, a loaf of bread, lager and some chicken pieces for the gunman.
Gazza, who appeared a little worse for wear, reportedly returned to Newcastle in a taxi where he was later taken by ambulance to hospital with breathing difficulties.
Gazza's agent Kenny Shepherd said: "He's doing what? I'm speechless."
The whole thing would have been made far more interesting if Cheryl Kerl had joined Gazza in trying to resolve the stand off.
You couldn't make it up (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/fail/34257/paul-gascoigne-the-raoul-moat-radio-interview-a-surreal-extract.html)
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What utter fucking nonsense you're not meant to drink pool water :spank: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/stoke_and_staffordshire/10596808.stm).
And what do people do if a drop of rain should fall from the sky and pass their lips whilst they are observing fasting during Ramadan?
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Ride 'em Cowboy! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10611973.stm) :beer1: :beer2: :pissed:
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You from daan saaf? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100713/od_afp/nzealandhealthspeech_20100713023324)
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Theres a Moose Loose aboot this.....convenience store :lol:
Moosing about (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10637786)
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Cunt in apology shocker. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10645543)
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Cunt in apology shocker. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10645543)
More cheap advertising (~£50k is probably cheaper than paying for the equivalent advertising the whole debacle has generated).
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Badgers have white stripes anyway (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-10650160)
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George Monbiot can be an annoying and rather self-righteous git at times but this is a good piece about the ever-bonkers Monkton and the imaginary world he and many of the more dogmatic climate-change deniers live in.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/jul/14/monckton-john-abraham (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/jul/14/monckton-john-abraham)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goldman-to-pay-550m-to-settle-sec-fraud-case-2027674.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goldman-to-pay-550m-to-settle-sec-fraud-case-2027674.html) :wank:
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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5396 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5396) Robert Pollin: Imposing 'austerity' at this time could be calamitous!
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Stupid bitch Raoul Moat Facebook worship starter explains her reasoning. (http://www.talksport.net/index.asp?id=111450&c=&t=#media)
Well, I'm convinced.
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Zac Goldsmith makes an arse of himself about election expenses (C4 News, 16.07.10) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UovcMQXxmoE#ws) Zac Goldsmith makes an arse of himself about election expenses, oh dear what a :wank:
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Zac Goldsmith makes an arse of himself about election expenses (C4 News, 16.07.10) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UovcMQXxmoE#ws) Zac Goldsmith makes an arse of himself about election expenses, oh dear what a :wank:
AVE TORIUSI NOVA! SIMILIS TORIUSI SENECA!
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George Monbiot can be an annoying and rather self-righteous git at times
Speaking to friends living in Machynlleth recently - it seems that he also has a predilection for impressionable women significantly younger than himself (20's... not teens!) - and rumour has it got a couple of them up the duff... He's not thought of especially highly by locals...
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No stocks and shares for deities (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100717/wl_sthasia_afp/indiastocksreligionhinduoffbeat_20100717054728).
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"Officer Bubbles"- From Bubbles to Bookings? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc&feature=player_embedded#ws)
Toronto police officer threatens to arrest G20 activist for blowing bubbles during a mass detention in Toronto's Parkdale community. Woman is later arrested along with twenty others while dozens more are detained and searched.
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The Food Bubble: How Wall Street Starved Millions and Got Away With It. This is much more in depth than the earlier piece I posted on this same subject some time ago!
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/16/the_food_bubble_how_wall_street (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/16/the_food_bubble_how_wall_street)
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How government outsourcing works.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gGJrPaYCjpd8WKwILsT6qbAvoWMg (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gGJrPaYCjpd8WKwILsT6qbAvoWMg)
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New vaccine delivery system could revolutionise public health (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/patch-heralds-new-era-in-battle-against-pandemics-2029750.html)
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Lot's of stuff we already knew.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/blog/2010/jul/20/iraq-war-inquiry-iraq (http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/blog/2010/jul/20/iraq-war-inquiry-iraq)
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Crazy Russians! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10695037) :lol:
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Ouch!!! (http://tinyurl.com/344ng3t)
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Crazy Russians! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10695037) :lol:
I likeI liked found this one just as appalling (http://ttp://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php?action=reminder;sa=setpassword;u=4522;code=0f02c04452) :o :lol: :lol:
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whale lands on yacht (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10712323)
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whale lands on yacht (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10712323)
:jaw:
Self-sustaining sex toys in the offing (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10711202) :P
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I-Dosing: How teenagers are getting 'digitally high' from music they download from internet (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1296282/I-dosing-How-teenagers-getting-digitally-high-music-download-internet.html)
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I was skimming that thinking "this sounds like a right load of sensationalist horseshit" and then realised which website it was on.
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Classic
Chris Morris Daily Mail...
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Your girlfriend is a bitch (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835665-man-accused-of-sex-with-a-dog-called-christie-brinkley) :lol:
No - really :o
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comment on the Mail's site
I was at a local basketball court in Philadelphia and some friends and I were playing a game. A couple of guys came down the street and they were listening to headphones. They were talking crazy and started fighting. Turns out, they were "dosing." My mom was so upset she sent me to live with my aunt and uncle here in California.
- F Prince, Belair, US, 21/7/2010 13:17
:lol:
was that you, Jaz?
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:lol: Well spotted, thats brilliant.
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genius.
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Crazy Russians! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10695037) :lol:
Weeeeeeeee!!!!
Flying donkey shocks beachgoers in Russia's south (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEep5BrexT0#)
(Its ok to laugh at it (http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/07/21/donkeygate-a-reply))
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whale lands on yacht (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10712323)
Does that first photo not look slightly odd? And what are the chances someone happened to have a camera pointing at the yacht when it happened?
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For anyone who's missed the #StupidScientology debacle on Twitter etc.......
http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/07/meaning-of-stupidscientology.html (http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/07/meaning-of-stupidscientology.html)
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Read here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764)
... then [click here] (http://nelsonhaha.com/)
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Read here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764)
... then [click here] (http://nelsonhaha.com/)
:thumbsup:
Load of cock (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-10715115) ;D
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Read here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764)
... then [click here] (http://nelsonhaha.com/)
always good to see the naz-eyes get shit on.
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Load of cock (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-10715115) ;D
The photo in that link shows the street next to the one I grew up on. Lewes has always had it's decent share of mentalists.
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Pint of stoat anyone? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024)
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Pint of stoat anyone? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024)
Never heard of the group "Advocates for Animals and Alcohol Focus Scotland" before. :P
Good job none of them have looked at eBay recently (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11685.msg270424.html#msg270424), although I guess none of them are drinking so they're not so concerned.
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Pint of stoat anyone? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024)
Never heard of the group "Advocates for Animals and Alcohol Focus Scotland" before. :P
Good job none of them have looked at eBay recently (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11685.msg270424.html#msg270424), although I guess none of them are drinking so they're not so concerned.
Haha, that would result in a rather unfortunate acronym.
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Brewdog are the masters of free publicity. Every time they release a new beer they manage to get ££££s worth of free advertising by being slightly controversial. Fair play to them!
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The Ryanair school of advertising.
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Hmmm yeah but with out being complete and utter cunts maybe.
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Read here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764)
... then [click here] (http://nelsonhaha.com/)
always good to see the naz-eyes get shit on.
Unfortunately, as that article makes clear, this particular charmer was invited, and did attend.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/08/european-elections-bnp (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/08/european-elections-bnp)
In a letter to Jordan's wife, Brons reported meeting an NSM member who "mentioned such activities as bombing synagogues", to which Brons responded that "on this subject I have a dual view, in that I realise that he is well intentioned, I feel that our public image may suffer considerable damage as a result of these activities. I am however open to correction on this point."
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Read here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764)
... then [click here] (http://nelsonhaha.com/)
:thumbsup:
Load of cock (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-10715115) ;D
Has Jasper been back home again recently?
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I'm not really sure about what to make of this story? (http://www.metro.co.uk/home/835907-mother-and-son-in-court-for-drowning-pet-hamster-in-a-bath)
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BP really need to go on Photoshop course (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/835898-bp-admits-to-doctoring-another-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill-image) :lol:
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Eamonn Holmes is beeb appology
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/jul/22/bbc-bans-eamonn-holmes-jokes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/jul/22/bbc-bans-eamonn-holmes-jokes)
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What a total fucking cunt that man is. Fat fuck.
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some quality comments:
The BBC should have sent him a box of cupcakes with a note-
If you send these back fatty, we'll say sorry but were not holding the old breath
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Racism is not discrimination on the basis of your choice of religion (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-10728912)
Not that discrimination on the basis of ones religion is in anyway justifiable at all, but religion is a choice, and your race isn't (although one might argue that many people are indoctrinated into a religion from birth, but it can still be changed through choice at a later date).
And on the whole Niqab/Burka thing, I wonder how places such as Meadowhell which have a "No hoodies" policy handle such things, as essentially the Niqab/Burka is the original hoody!! If they're permissible then why are modern versions discriminated against?
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Plus, if some one of them was wearing a niqab, then how was the driver to know what race she was anyway, if he couldn't see basiaclly any of her skin?
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I think it's a bit dodgy ground to ban them specifically. But I can't go into a bank with my motorbike helmet on, so am I being discriminated against if people can go in with their faces covered? And the last time Lagers went into M&S with tights on his head he got asked to leave.
It would make more sense to me to outlaw having your face covered in public, but then you'd be accused of racism by stealth. If it was a level playing field for everyone, whichever way it went, surely that would be fairer?
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Plus, if some one of them was wearing a niqab, then how was the driver to know what race she was anyway, if he couldn't see basiaclly any of her skin?
As Jedi is (AFAIK) still a recognised religion after the previous census, can I go around in a Darth Vader mask on religious grounds?
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Don't think Jedi is actually recognised as a religion. Bearing in mind that if bodies like the charities commision don't recognise scientology as a religion then jedi doesn't have a prayer (pun).
You could wear a jesus mask though. He's like a god to some people.
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If I'm bouldering in The Forest wearing a niqab/burka and there is no one there to see it, will I be breaking the law?
Does the French ban extend to non-muslim men wearing such headgear?
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I can't see it would be any different from you wearing your other mask, to be fair.
(http://www.insanus.org/impedimento/Eyes_Wide_Shut_4.jpg)
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Should be in keeping it real....ales thread? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024)
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See previous page.
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...It would make more sense to me to outlaw having your face covered in public, but then you'd be accused of racism by stealth.
and I might be out of the job I've just applied for
(http://irritatedtulsan.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/ronald_mcdonald_jumping1.jpg)
and then you'd be anti fat yank... rascist... and fatist
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In other "face covering" news:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/22/darth-vader-bank-robber-s_n_656447.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/22/darth-vader-bank-robber-s_n_656447.html)
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They should just arrest David Prowse, it's obviously him.
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Two years in prison for at least two years of kiddy pr0n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10735857).
It seems that's all he gets as it's unfair to take into account past acts.
So it's only fair that previous acts are consistently ignored, so no protection if identity and he has to use his own name when released?
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They should just arrest David Prowse, it's obviously him.
And James Earl Jones just to be on the safe side.
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Have Hayden Christensen in as well.
Up on charges of being a criminally shit actor.
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...It would make more sense to me to outlaw having your face covered in public, but then you'd be accused of racism by stealth.
and I might be out of the job I've just applied for
(http://irritatedtulsan.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/ronald_mcdonald_jumping1.jpg)
Fiend's person trainer?
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Read here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764)
... then [click here] (http://nelsonhaha.com/)
Hat's off [sic] to you, Ma'am!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs208.snc4/38732_454410270790_673725790_6681145_945380_n.jpg)
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Two years in prison for at least two years of kiddy pr0n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10735857).
It seems that's all he gets as it's unfair to take into account past acts.
So it's only fair that previous acts are consistently ignored, so no protection if identity and he has to use his own name when released?
Oh, apparently not- a quarter of a million well spent again.
Let's just hope he isn't the victim of a stairwell nonce-bashing, leaving him quadrospazzed on a life-glug.
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15 killed at Love Parade in Duisburg (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7992845.stm)
Some eye-witnesses said that they'd warned the police that huge crowds were gathering at this entrance tunnel, and despite these warnings, people were still streaming in. (to the Love Parade)
Now where might I have heard something like that before?
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Indeed. First reports basically said it was the fault of the police. By this morning the cause of the disaster is "unsure".
:-\
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7902348/Transvestite-had-sex-with-a-dog-at-English-Heritage-castle.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7902348/Transvestite-had-sex-with-a-dog-at-English-Heritage-castle.html)
A cut above the usual 'man buggers livestock' story, I think.
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Shitting pigeons force KoL off stage:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jul/26/kings-leon-forced-off-stage (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jul/26/kings-leon-forced-off-stage)
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Lying cunts. (http://lydall.standard.co.uk/2010/07/truth-about-muslim-students-forced-off-bus-for-wearing-veil.html)
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Will they really disappear? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-10762590)
A 38% drop in collisions does not equate to a reduction in the number of fatal accidents!
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7902348/Transvestite-had-sex-with-a-dog-at-English-Heritage-castle.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7902348/Transvestite-had-sex-with-a-dog-at-English-Heritage-castle.html)
A cut above the usual 'man buggers livestock' story, I think.
A spokesman for English Heritage said: "This was a very rare incident".
No...
(http://maaadddog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/shit.jpg)
(http://tnrdlibrary.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/sherlock-holmes.jpg)
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Yorkshire family trapped in their house by deadly snake (http://fwd4.me/Auh).
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The comments under that "news" item are well worth reading; have a wad.
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Hide and seek goes wrong (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297804/Boy-4-dies-tumble-dryer-hide-seek-game-goes-tragically-wrong.html)
Call me an intolerable cynic, but how did he manage to climb in and shut the door properly so the machine could start a cycle?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/27/iran-stoning-case-woman-cellmate (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/27/iran-stoning-case-woman-cellmate)
This kind of story makes me think it would be a good idea if next time one of these Iranian clerics visits a western country there should be several thousand people armed with a plentiful supply of decent-sized stones waiting to greet them as they leave the airport terminal!
:furious:
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Yorkshire family trapped in their house by deadly snake (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Withernsea-couple-trapped-indoors-adder-living-garden/article-2454358-detail/article.html).The comments under that "news" item are well worth reading;
Crikes! Adders are not poisonous you great Galaa!
They are venomous NOT poisonous.
Fair Dinkum
Steve Irwin, Australia Zoo
Genius. I bet its a grass snake anyway.
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Do 5-year olds really have a character that can be defamated? It would seem so (money grabbing cheapskates) :wank: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10785859)
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Genius. I bet its a grass snake anyway.
You saying that you know more about British wildlife than an ex boy scout?
I find that hard to believe
Mr Leathley, 57, said: "I first saw it last year, my wife didn't believe me but I was convinced. I used to be a boy scout so I know what an adder looks like."
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"I've seen the adder twice, it's brown and olive green.
Twice FFS! Well I was in 1st Knutsford cubs, a sixer and everything. I've never seen an olive green adder though.
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Those olive/brown adders are all 12mm in diameter and burrow into cornish granite to escape from jealous locals.
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Yorkshire family trapped in their house by deadly snake (http://fwd4.me/Auh).
What is it with Brits and snakes? I have a creek full of Tiger & Eastern Brown Snakes behind my place and it doesn't keep anybody here out of their gardens - the only casualty I've heard of in our time has been a local cat a few doors down that disturbed a Tiger Snake sleeping under their house.
Local fire crews counted at least 20 snakes fleeing a controlled burn along the creek earlier this year but that hasn't stopped loads of local kids continuing to walk to school and back along it's banks and they even fish and swim in the deeper pools!
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Peanuts! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10810772)
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He's a corpse of course! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10809128)
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He's a corpse of course! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10809128)
confined himself in his room more than 30 years ago and became a living Buddha
Well, they were only using one word there slightly inaccurately.
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Expensive cars get clamped (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10810772). It's not like they can't afford the penalty charge.
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48542000/jpg/_48542808_swns_harrods_clamps_01.jpg)
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Expensive cars get clamped (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10810772). It's not like they can't afford the penalty charge.
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48542000/jpg/_48542808_swns_harrods_clamps_01.jpg)
:whistle:Peanuts! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-10810772)
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:oops:
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Indiscriminate stalking (http://www.fidgetwith.com/2010/05/31/who-is-this-guy-mystery-man-keeps-appearing-on-live-news-reports/all/1) :lol:
I like the one where he's strolling by with a shopping basket :bow:
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Thats brilliant! :lol:
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Playing hockey with cormorants, whilst being cheered on by drunken elephant seals (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/28/MN7B1EIJIS.DTL&type=newsbayarea)
:-\ I wonder who spiked them with Orange Sunshine :P
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Want to get laid? Wear red (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/03/sexy_redness/)!
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What is it with Brits and snakes? I have a creek full of Tiger & Eastern Brown Snakes behind my place and it doesn't keep anybody here out of their gardens - the only casualty I've heard of in our time has been a local cat a few doors down that disturbed a Tiger Snake sleeping under their house.
Not all Brits just a couple of dead muppets.
I'll see your Tger and Eastern Browns and raise you a green mamba that had fallen out of a tree and was in the swiming pool in our back garden. I notice it when I was thigh deep (and yes snakes can swim).
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Throw the fucking book at him (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/dance-group-member-sentenced-over-benefits-fraud-2042836.html).
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Throw the fucking book at him (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/dance-group-member-sentenced-over-benefits-fraud-2042836.html).
It would appear they didn't (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/dancer-spared-jail-over-benefits-fraud-2042836.html), at least he has the decency to pay it back.
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ONE TIME (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-10865575)
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He is up against some tough opposition Hey Micky, hey Micky! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Micky)
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ONE TIME (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-10865575)
I wonder how many Haitian's tune into Larry King's CNN show, let alone actually have a TV and electricity to power it. :-\
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All the earthquake 'fugees.
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As if more evidence were needed to ban publications like The Daily Mail (http://blog.juggle.com/2010/08/03/how-a-wired-magazine-story-morphed-into-brain-eating-vaccine-in-3-easy-steps)
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gutted (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/05082010/58/marcato-blunder-costs-stage-victory.html)
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Selling a car on eBay? Make sure you include some good pictures (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/05/ebay_flash/) - possibly NSFW if your boss is a severely repressed ninety year old spinster or something.
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That's class.
I cant delete it (wish I could) apologies ,I feel some what embarrassed.
Too right - that's an iPhone, isn't it? You should be bloody ashamed of yourself.
:lol:
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I wonder what happens if you click on the "Enlarge" button? :P
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Is there a better journo out there at the moment than Marina? Consistently brilliant stuff recently from football to this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/aug/05/naomi-campbell-liberia-blood-diamonds?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/aug/05/naomi-campbell-liberia-blood-diamonds?CMP=twt_gu)
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Amusing story but please look at the pictures of those arrested:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/aug/05/20-arrested-raids-las-vegas-sex-businesses/ (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/aug/05/20-arrested-raids-las-vegas-sex-businesses/)
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the attendant would try to up-sell the victims to a VIP area, using ambiguous language such as, “In the VIP, I can touch more places, particularly the ‘lower extremities,’
Ambiguous? I think its pretty clear she's talking about toes.
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mentals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10891733)
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Everyone's got aids (http://www.thebmc.co.uk/News.aspx?id=3844)
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mentals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10891733)
JoyceLynn Aryan Nation
Is a daft name to be honest. What's wrong with Eva Braun?
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Taking
the a piss (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/force-considers-urinating-device-for-women-2045592.html)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/03/the-eva-mendes-sex-tape-v_n_668960.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/03/the-eva-mendes-sex-tape-v_n_668960.html) :lol:
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mentals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10891733)
Come on, be fair.
There are no flies on him.
Mr Campbell has said he believes the children were taken into care because of their names
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MI5 HEAD TOLD BLAIR IRAQ NO THREAT
Eric Margolis: Most US media ignoring explosive testimony by former MI5 head at Iraq inquiry!
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5453 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5453)
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http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/1860330 (http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/1860330)
Fuck that, I want my season of mellow frutifulness first.
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They can't even get the three day forecast right, how the fuck are we meant to believe what they say on the long-term forecasts?
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Word.
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I remember reading before last winter how a lack of solar activity might be linked to us having colder winters!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100415080848.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100415080848.htm)
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:oops: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10908830)
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He must be gutted. Was probably aiming for the monster in law.
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Journalist uses Wikipedia to research article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/10/balls_festival/) and gets it a bit wrong. :lol:
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Journalist uses Wikipedia to research article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/10/balls_festival/) and gets it a bit wrong. :lol:
:lol: Thats brilliant :thumbsup:
:-\ I suspect its only those who do it that don't think its "morally wrong" (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pm-offers-reassurance-over-benefit-cheat-plans-2048729.html) those who work (i.e. most of the country) already do think its wrong. Fucking twat :wall:
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GIVE ME THE FUCKING CHICKEN NUGGETS NOW (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/americas/chicken+nugget+lover+jailed+for+fast+food+attack/3740092)
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To be fair on her the filth they serve up for breakfast is even worse than the burgers and chicken nuggets (or so Fiend told me).
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Come on now, the girl was justified. Chicken Nuggets are the American Dream.
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How to quit your job (http://thechive.com/2010/08/10/girl-quits-her-job-on-dry-erase-board-emails-entire-office-33-photos/).
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Isn't that a fake? Funny mind.
Greggs: Not as shit as you might think?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/11/greggs-the-bakers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/aug/11/greggs-the-bakers)
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Isn't that a fake? Funny mind.
This is genuine : Off his trolley (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/off-his-trolley-angry-air-steward-slides-to-freedom-2049094.html) :bow: :bow: :bow:
Whilst I don't necessarily see the absolute need to remain seated whilst taxing (usually my bladder is bursting and I could really do with going for a piss!), it really pisses me off that some twats can't follow very basic & simple instructions. :wank:
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That's brilliant. Grabbing a couple of beers and jumping down the emergency slide! :bow: :bow:
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Isn't that a fake? Funny mind.
Quite possibly but no idea in all honesty.
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20 8) (http://www.cube20.org/)
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Making a refreshing change from religious halfwits spotting the Madonna in a tomato or somesuch:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8323474.Brighton_pub_regulars_spot_Homer_Simpson_in_crisp/ (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8323474.Brighton_pub_regulars_spot_Homer_Simpson_in_crisp/)
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Back to... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-10936604)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48689000/jpg/_48689343_shcool_ap.jpg)
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*You can not pea serious! (http://)
*Not my joke - I just stole it...
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Man caught speeding in Switzerland cops £650,000 fine. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/12/record-speeding-fine-switzerland) :o
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BP has managed to link the fate of its $20 billion oil spill victims compensation fund with its continued ability to pump oil from the Gulf of Mexico.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/11/bp-links-compensation-wit_n_679171.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/11/bp-links-compensation-wit_n_679171.html)
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Man caught speeding in Switzerland cops £650,000 fine. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/12/record-speeding-fine-switzerland) :o
I guess Fiend didn't get his radar detector before going on holiday. :P
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I've heard of crag nazis before, but this (http://www.thelocal.se/28334/20100812/) is ridiculous
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.....er.....what?...oh dear, got distracted by all the DFSwedishBWMayormaynotGC linked to that page.
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Swedish historian and sport climber Cordelia Hess
Oh, the irony!
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New bed breaks on first night. (http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/45710/couples-fury-as-new-bed-collapses-on-first-night)
(Check the other gallery pic...)
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New bed breaks on first night. (http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/45710/couples-fury-as-new-bed-collapses-on-first-night)
(Check the other gallery pic...)
You evil boy Cofe, made I larf....
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big news (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8333407.Tile_falls_from_Worthing_shop/)
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That probably is quite big news in Worthing.
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New bed breaks on first night. (http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/45710/couples-fury-as-new-bed-collapses-on-first-night)
(Check the other gallery pic...)
who gets up in the middle of the night for a milkshake?
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They were lying. It was a pie not a milkshake.
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New bed breaks on first night. (http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/45710/couples-fury-as-new-bed-collapses-on-first-night)
(Check the other gallery pic...)
who gets up in the middle of the night for a milkshake?
Kelis.
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I've heard of crag nazis before, but this (http://www.thelocal.se/28334/20100812/) is ridiculous
That's a load of bullshit, and an insult.
Krematorium is 6c tops.
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New bed breaks on first night. (http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/45710/couples-fury-as-new-bed-collapses-on-first-night)
(Check the other gallery pic...)
paid good money from a top store
bed arrived from TJ Hughes
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They were lying. It was a pie not a milkshake.
My wife is a larger lady
from the picture he hardly looks like he is calorifically deprived either.
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:shrug:
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-99048815036385_2115_9457207) (http://flyingpasties.com/)
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(http://www.chrispackham.co.uk/T-Shirt_designs/images/Closing_Down.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/13/plan-sell-nature-reserves-austerity-countryside)
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(http://www.chrispackham.co.uk/T-Shirt_designs/images/Closing_Down.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/13/plan-sell-nature-reserves-austerity-countryside)
Heard about that yesterday when a friend mentioned it, bad idea :thumbsdown:
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Heard about that yesterday when a friend mentioned it, bad idea :thumbsdown:
In a world of bad ideas, that is one seriously fucking bad idea.
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I'm sure Dr Peter Marren mentioned the attempted sell off of the FC land (in Wales and Scotland) to help recover some of the national debt, last year in his "twitcher in the swamp" in British Wildlife. The concept went down badly in many quarters when it was reviewed and was withdrawn from view.
It was said it was likely to re-surface but I didn't expect such a vast proposal. I suspect they are going for the "Aim BIG" and once its been watered down people will think yeah, that’s not so bad... approach!!
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I've heard of crag nazis before, but this (http://www.thelocal.se/28334/20100812/) is ridiculous
That's a load of bullshit, and an insult.
Krematorium is 6c tops.
16:19 August 12, 2010 by Audrian
I find this scandalous. Where are the police and culture institutions?
They're round mine practicing Goose-stepping', what's it to you?
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http://themediablog.typepad.com/the-media-blog/2010/08/bbc-weatherman-finger-1120170810.html (http://themediablog.typepad.com/the-media-blog/2010/08/bbc-weatherman-finger-1120170810.html)
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^ ;D
A Croatian pal of mine works as a video editor for a reality-show in Zagreb. Few months back he came within a whisker of being sacked and his program being fined €100K for allowing the text: Those Dynamo Cunts (the local footie team. In Croat, naturally) to flash on the screen. Turns out it was written & saved as some form of "template" many years ago by a disgruntled ex-employee and somehow turned-up unnoticed on prime time TV.
It was funny, I've other Croat pals who sprayed it all w/ glee at the time. I was like: Yeah, I know who did it too!
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Wheel clamping on private land to be illegal (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10993473) :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2010/aug/04/russia-wildfires-video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2010/aug/04/russia-wildfires-video) :jaw:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2010/aug/04/russia-wildfires-video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2010/aug/04/russia-wildfires-video) :jaw:
Bunch of poofs. When I was in the job, we'd have been out of the fire engine and beaten the embers to death with a snooker cue sharpish...... :whistle:
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(http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/ne/skynews/20100817/17/883222822-weatherman-apologises-giving-finger.jpg) (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100817/tuk-weatherman-apologises-for-giving-the-45dbed5.html) oops :lol: :lol:
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Five posts up..... ;)
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pedant :-[ :P :oops:
(NOTE TO SELF: TRY HARDER....next time slak-line re-posts something I have put on I must be a pedant)
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Interesting article tweeted by Cofe earlier....
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_webrip/ (http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_webrip/)
Though the graph is percentage use rather than total....
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303855/Burglar-rescued-firemen-getting-stuck-window-6-hours.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303855/Burglar-rescued-firemen-getting-stuck-window-6-hours.html)
Hmm, I got into work 20 minutes ago and I've already started procrastinating... it's going to be a good day! :thumbsup:
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Wheel clamping on private land to be illegal (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10993473) :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Actually that's a shit idea, what we needed was decent legislation and enforcement, after all do you want Mick ryan parking his car on your land without some form of redress/enforcement/deterent?
This proposal is as cogent as the dangerous dogs act of 1991.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coalition-turns-down-heat-under-energy-suppliers-2056038.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coalition-turns-down-heat-under-energy-suppliers-2056038.html) :wank:
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Love a bit of poetic justice
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4663646.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4663646.stm)
Shame he didn't take any more out.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/7952155/Seven-students-to-fight-for-every-clearing-place.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/7952155/Seven-students-to-fight-for-every-clearing-place.html)
Some universities with traditionally high numbers of clearing places said courses would be "extremely limited" and only available to "highly capable" students.
Can't help thinking that this is a good thing. Too much pressure is put on kids to go to university when there are plenty of other options. Instead of rushing into the first degree course you can think of, surely it's better to take a bit of time out to decide what you really want to do (which may or may not be best achieved by doing a degree)?
Johnny Rich, editor of Push.co.uk, said: "Snapping up a place in clearing may get you into university, but if it’s not what you want, you may leave with huge debts and no degree. You’d be better off waiting a year or two until you can get the place you want."
Or huge debts and a degree that is of no use whatsoever when it comes to trying to find a job.
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I don't know if it's changed now, but when I started at Uni ('98), once you were in on a course, it was very easy to move onto a different course and even trade departments completely. Several of my friends on Geology moved onto that course after having started on a joint honours course which had a much lower entry requirement. This basically means you can get on the higher demand courses once you have your foot in the door.
Does anyone know if this is still the case, Tomtom?
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Jasper I entirely agree, with the exception of perhaps medicine.
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with the exception of perhaps medicine.
That doesn't make any sense, medicine has got to be both the worst possible degree to get pressurised into doing and also the most difficult degree to just fall into. It's a very long course, you've got to be bloody good at memorising stuff to get through it, the career options are limited to pretty much being a doctor of some kind if you pass, research if you fail, you need to be planning a couple of years in advance to get all the voluntary work done to compete with the rest of the candidates, UCAS limit the number of medicine applications you can make to four rather than the usual six and to top it all off it's extremely difficult to get a place even if you're very good (for example my classmate six years ago has 4 (science) As at A-level plus another in gen studies and another A at AS, a couple of years of clinical voluntary work and was rejected by 2/4 unis he applied to).
Something like engineering/pure science on the other hand has an obvious career path, shorter degree (with bonus masters option for one more years worth of fees, unlike doing a separate masters which you have to finance yourself) hence less debt, the opportunity to get into whatever other field you feel like including finance, teaching, business or other more funky conversion courses and lots of opportunity for research (and there's lots of funding knocking around too). If you do medicine you'll eventually end up an overworked junior doctor with minus many tens of thousands of pounds or you'll end up dropping out (with minus many tens of thousands of pounds).
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(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/roflmao.gif) (http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/roflmao.gif)(http://www.themixingbowl.org/static/img/smilies/roflmao.gif)
(and there's lots of funding knocking around too).
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My point about medicine, and I say this as a non medic, is that it's presented as probably the one subject where being a mature student is considered to be a disadvantage.
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My point about medicine, and I say this as a non medic, is that it's presented as probably the one subject where being a mature student is considered to be a disadvantage.
Really? I'm not a medic but the missus is and the mature students doing medcine with her faired far better than the youngsters, especially early on in the uni bit. (She started uni in '98 though so things may have changed).
(I realise this is anecdotal but it's all I've got to go on. Continuing the anecdotal theme, the missus works with a couple of lads who, having done well at medcine at uni then went into the city for a couple of years, Boston Consulting Group and the like, before coming back to medcine. They both reckon their degree stood them in good stead when applying for jobs. They're both pretty sharp though.)
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Not seen any evidence of funding shortfalls in my department yet, we've got a lot of big contracts for a lot of big projects and there are still probably just as many people doing individual bits of work too. If the research councils are giving away less money by proposal they've definitely upped it with the big stuff they want doing. Something like 15% of my years undergrads have ended up back here doing phds, I'm pretty sure everyone that fancied doing one is now neck-deep in project and funding.
For what it's worth, unlike the rest of the country, my year is virtually all employed or doing research in the one-year-on questionnaire. Noone explicitly unemployed, ~90% responded. Yet another reason to do a sensible, extremely vocational and also flexible degree such as engineering. If social 'science' funding is tight or it's hard at other unis/in other departments then I guess it sucks to be them.
I would pull out the xkcd no. of research students vs no. of jobs graph but I can't be arsed finding it.
Sloper: Fair enough, it's a pretty long course but I've never heard of a gap-year being a big negative deal in medicine or any other course, instead lots of places strongly value a year in industry, some institutions *require* it for some courses. FWIW I know someone with a phd about to start a medicine degree.
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My point about medicine, and I say this as a non medic, is that it's presented as probably the one subject where being a mature student is considered to be a disadvantage.
Sorry to be harsh, but this is bullshit. Current perception in the Medical Schools is that mature students bring a great deal to medicine.
They have probaly done a previous degree and/or worked, hence they really want to do it, unlike numerous 17 year olds 'hot housed' and pushed by parents and teachers into doing it as its thought to be 'a good career'.
They have better life/social skills, and hence their patient management is definably better
They realise they are 'fortunate' to be on a career which is difficult to get into, they don't skip lectures for bed, and are generally super motivated, and often spend their holidays attending extra clinical sessions rather than pissing them up the wall.
These are obviously generalisations, but hold true for the most part. Sheffield medical school entry 2 years ago was nearly 40% mature (one of the highest percentages for any degree) and they actively encourage mature student applications.
There is a caveat on this I'm not referring of mature students in 35-45 open university range, but 23 - early thirties.
And yes I'm a surgeon and academic and see these trends firsthand.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/7952155/Seven-students-to-fight-for-every-clearing-place.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/7952155/Seven-students-to-fight-for-every-clearing-place.html)
Some universities with traditionally high numbers of clearing places said courses would be "extremely limited" and only available to "highly capable" students.
Can't help thinking that this is a good thing. Too much pressure is put on kids to go to university when there are plenty of other options. Instead of rushing into the first degree course you can think of, surely it's better to take a bit of time out to decide what you really want to do (which may or may not be best achieved by doing a degree)?
Johnny Rich, editor of Push.co.uk, said: "Snapping up a place in clearing may get you into university, but if it’s not what you want, you may leave with huge debts and no degree. You’d be better off waiting a year or two until you can get the place you want."
Or huge debts and a degree that is of no use whatsoever when it comes to trying to find a job.
Sounds like you've been moonlighting as a careers guidance councillor Jasper (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-10926532)
Going abroad to study sounds like a good idea too (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012095)
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For what it's worth, unlike the rest of the country, my year is virtually all employed or doing research in the one-year-on questionnaire. Noone explicitly unemployed, ~90% responded. Yet another reason to do a sensible, extremely vocational and also flexible degree such as engineering. If social 'science' funding is tight or it's hard at other unis/in other departments then I guess it sucks to be them.
What course did you do? There are certainly shortages (both funding and careers) in the environment sector, and as far as I know in earth sciences too.
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Sounds like you've been moonlighting as a careers guidance councillor Jasper (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-10926532)
Yeah that's without a doubt the best route into accountancy. You don't even need A levels.
The other important thing is that by the time someone else has finished their accountancy degree, you will have 3 - 5 years experience of actually doing the job which no amount of studying can replace. They will be starting from scratch, you will already be able to earn a decent living.
I've seen accountancy graduates start work in practice and not have the first clue how to do the job. Of course, this is neither their fault nor that of the university. It's just that you can't teach what you need to learn by doing the actual work.
As far as missing out on the social side is concerned, how about bumming around climbing for 3 years first? Worked for me. ;)
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What course did you do? There are certainly shortages (both funding and careers) in the environment sector, and as far as I know in earth sciences too.
Mechanical engineering @ Sheffield. Lots of government funded nuclear engineering and renewables sorted pre the conlib cuts along with quite a lot of private industrial stuff keeping us going at the moment. Apparently department is #2 for research according to the stat crunchers. There are definitely career shortages but everyone from here seems to have got something sorted which is rather surprising really, all the big British engineering names seemed to either halve graduate intake last year or didn't take any on. Most smaller firms seemed to take a year off employing people. One of the reasons I chose research was that the money shortcomings seemed to be lagging behind everywhere else. I was the only person that applied to do my phd despite the funding sat waiting for a student.
And as for accountancy degrees, I'm not sure I've met any accountants that have done one and I don't think I've met many accountancy students that have any understanding of money or business (let alone are now accountants).
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This is just taking the piss (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-11023725) :lol:
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Snoopy fair enough, as I was saying it was just the impression that I'd heard.
I would really, really suggest that people intending to read law think about it very carefully.
The number of pupillages and training contracts available are at historic lows, at the firm I'm at (yeah I've had to go in house middle office bastarding) we have people with post grad qualifications as paralegals on around £12,000 :o and that's not unusual. Sure if you get a TC with a magic circle firm you can look forward to lots of money and no sleep (CC have 'sleep pods' so their juniors don't have to leave the office after a 17 hour day) but the odds are about the same as becoming a professional footballer.
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I would really, really suggest that people intending to read law think about it very carefully.
...the odds are about the same as becoming a professional footballer.
And they don't make professional footballers shell out ~£10,000 for a year crash-course in legal practice football
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I know about 5 graduate entry Medicine students all of whom are very motivated. Why would it be presented as a disadvantage? Perhaps if one was a parent with young children otherwise I can't see any problems.
There's a 40 year old woman in my academic year doing architecture. She has a young girl and I know she's finding it a real struggle. How she'll fare in this forthcoming final year of the BA remains to be seen.
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This seems completely nonsensical. Having to prove ones innocence in order to receive compensation when there is no way of doing so:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/sion-jenkins-billiejo-murder-acquitted-compensation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/sion-jenkins-billiejo-murder-acquitted-compensation)
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This seems completely nonsensical. Having to prove ones innocence in order to receive compensation when there is no way of doing so:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/sion-jenkins-billiejo-murder-acquitted-compensation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/sion-jenkins-billiejo-murder-acquitted-compensation)
I love the irrational and this one sits nicely between here and Don't fuck with the filth.
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Scamming cunts. (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-management-consultancy-scam-2057127.html) :furious:
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This seems completely nonsensical. Having to prove ones innocence in order to receive compensation when there is no way of doing so:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/sion-jenkins-billiejo-murder-acquitted-compensation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/sion-jenkins-billiejo-murder-acquitted-compensation)
I'm sure Slopes or Ru might provide greater insight, but doesn't the law state (along the lines of) that individuals are "Innocent until proven guilty"? Thus if they are unable to find him guilty then he is by definition innocent and entitled to compensation for being wrongfully convicted. :shrug:
Although I'm sure its not as simple as that. :wank:
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I would have thought that was far too logical for the British "justice" system slackers.
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By Toutatis - the Sky is falling!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7952441/Quelle-horreur-Asterix-surrenders-to-McDonalds.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7952441/Quelle-horreur-Asterix-surrenders-to-McDonalds.html)
As (http://figure-archive.net/photos/v035/00120691.jpg) might say, «ALEA IACTA ESTRO»
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Love a bit of poetic justice
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4663646.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4663646.stm)
Shame he didn't take any more out.
ditto.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11020599 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11020599)
And whatever the "lack of props" is to the bloke who thought yanking the animal's tail was a good idea, causing it to panic further and collapse down the terrace crushing people as well.
(The only problem I can see here is the fact the most seriously injured appears to be a ten-year old)
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What a fcuking spanner:
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Scrap-metal-theft-suspect-lucky-s-morgue-60-000-volt-shock/article-2550061-detail/article.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Scrap-metal-theft-suspect-lucky-s-morgue-60-000-volt-shock/article-2550061-detail/article.html)
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I have no sympathy for the tosser at all - it is a regular thing for idiots of the same ilk to chop large sections of cable running besides railway lines only to find that it is full of light and not the copper that they were expecting.
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An eye for an eye, a spine for a spine. (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/08/saudi-judge-considers-severing-spine-of-attacker-who-paralyzed-man/1)
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Re the lack of compo for Sion Jenkins, a disgrace as was charging the wrongfully convicted for board and lodging FFS.
As to his trial, yes he was not acquitted, but to me that's beside the point, if you can't investigate a child murder properly then you the prosecuting authority, i.e. the state deserve to be fucked financially and otherwise. It's called due process and it's important.
As to the criminal justice system, it's like the lord privy seal, three lies in one as it neither deals with the criminals, nor is it just or a system.
Anyway on a lighter note C| major.
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Technically a single note can't be major or minor, only when part of a scale :P
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A variation of a theme on pedantry, to you sire I doff my dutch cap.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rape-investigation-into-wikileaks-founder-2058469.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rape-investigation-into-wikileaks-founder-2058469.html)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rape-investigation-into-wikileaks-founder-2058469.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/rape-investigation-into-wikileaks-founder-2058469.html)
...or then again maybe not. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11049316)
The molestation charge is still being investigated apparently (for now at least).
Anyone else small a rather large rat here? :-\
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:agree:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-60mile-traffic-jam-that-lasted-nine-days-2059954.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-60mile-traffic-jam-that-lasted-nine-days-2059954.html)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/lineker-blames-16325000ayear-school-after-son-fails-to-make-grade-2060131.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/lineker-blames-16325000ayear-school-after-son-fails-to-make-grade-2060131.html) :boohoo:
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This cunt needs a taste of her own medicine (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cctv-images-show-kitten-dumped-in-bin-2060590.html), would have to be a dumpster though to get her fat arse in there. :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
Coventry Cat in Wheelie Bin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHRWCCuqpI#)
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that's hilarious, in an animal cruelty kind of way.
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Funky Baguettes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10996838)
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Funky Baguettes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10996838)
Read that earlier, reminded me of this rather amusing clip (although I don't condone forcing people to take drugs, it should be a choice). The guy with the radio giving up and the one climbing the tree are hilarious.
LSD Testing (British Troops) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rWnQphPdQ#)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/school-that-refused-to-become-academy-is-most-improved-2061210.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/school-that-refused-to-become-academy-is-most-improved-2061210.html)
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No surprises. Calling a school an academy is not going to make it a better school.
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It's like calling a turd a cake, still smells like shit and I ain't going to eat it
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Can't find link, but one of local papers had the fantastically generic headline
"ROBBERS STEAL CASH FROM MAN"
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Following on from the Sion Jenkins compensation fiasco:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/barry-george-wins-battle-over-compensation-2061673.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/barry-george-wins-battle-over-compensation-2061673.html)
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The Moon is shrinking!! Run for your lives :o
http://www.newsy.com/videos/researchers-moon-is-shrinking/ (http://www.newsy.com/videos/researchers-moon-is-shrinking/)
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Following on from the Sion Jenkins compensation fiasco:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/barry-george-wins-battle-over-compensation-2061673.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/barry-george-wins-battle-over-compensation-2061673.html)
Indeed that just shows what a total cunt Jack Straw is.
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I didn't realize we needed that to establish an insight into the aptly-named "Jack Straw"'s character.
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Oh look, hosting the Olympics might not have been such a great idea after all:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/aug/26/ioc-london-2012-olympic-games (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/aug/26/ioc-london-2012-olympic-games)
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As the discussion on drugs policy rumbles on to it's inevitable conclusion of achieving absolutely FUCK ALL, Johann Hari smacks the nail firmly on the head:
http://tinyurl.com/23kddkv (http://tinyurl.com/23kddkv)
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Chavtastic! (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/8348706.Meet_the_girl_with_tattooed_make_up/?ref=mr)
In May, she secretly spent her pocket money on two tattoos, despite it being illegal to permanently tattoo a child.
Sophie’s mother, Joy, from Spennymoor, County Durham, has defended her decision to allow her only child to undergo the seven-hour, £1,200 procedure in glossy magazine, Closer.
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She said she instantly loved her new face, partly because it is helping to hide her natural colouring.
She dyes her red hair dark brown and her eyebrows are coloured to match
:-\
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This could equally be in 'Pie's thread
Tiger cub, hiding as cuddly animal
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48886000/jpg/_48886003_img_4136.jpg)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11104948)
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Pah. The Borg crash has eaten loads of important stuff on #metgate.....this will do for now:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/09/metgate-coulson-tom-watson (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/09/metgate-coulson-tom-watson)
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Worth reading the comments on this. Pilger always draws a strong reaction but "I have neither the time nor the inclination to debunk your inaccurate facts..." is not a strong argument against!:
http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2010/09/pilger-iraq-false-war-public (http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2010/09/pilger-iraq-false-war-public)
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BRING IT ON :bounce:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/09/06/magic.mushrooms.ease.anxiety/index.html?iref=NS1#fbid=FwHX68v_2e6&wom=false (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/09/06/magic.mushrooms.ease.anxiety/index.html?iref=NS1#fbid=FwHX68v_2e6&wom=false)
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BRING IT ON :bounce:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/09/06/magic.mushrooms.ease.anxiety/index.html?iref=NS1#fbid=FwHX68v_2e6&wom=false (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/09/06/magic.mushrooms.ease.anxiety/index.html?iref=NS1#fbid=FwHX68v_2e6&wom=false)
Clocked this avenue of research a while back (in a database of clinical trials (http://www.controlled-trials.com/mrct/trial/438595/)).
Aldous Huxley had the right idea of going out on a high (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#Death).
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http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/meat-back-on-menu-for-animal-feed-20-years-after-bse-crisis-2072188.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/meat-back-on-menu-for-animal-feed-20-years-after-bse-crisis-2072188.html) :-\
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Poetic justice? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260)
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"Bobby was a loving and loyal son who would do anything for his family. He will continually shine in our hearts forever"
Fair enough, I don't expect them to say, "He was a little twat", but the fact remains he was a thief.
Incidentally, if cops aren't going to pursue motorcyclists who aren't wearing the proper safety equipment, then surely it's the easiest theft ever? Maybe I'll go into business?
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That always "amuses" me on the news.
Man convicted of paedophilia, rape, murder, genocide, torture, watching Big Brother, biting heads off of bats, fucking chickens, splashing chalk all over the Peak and claiming "new" problems, shagging dogs, farting in pensioner's face, shagging a goat in the ass, speeding in a 30 limit
described as
He was such a lovely man. He loved children and animals. And new routing at venues that have been utterly climbed out. he was actually better than Jesus.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html)
Fisk's books have become rather turgid but he can still produce a story that should make you angry and possibly make you feel a bit sick as well!
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"Shouldn't they be out catching real criminals bullshit bingo."
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Ringtone-race-row-lands-fan.6516611.jp (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Ringtone-race-row-lands-fan.6516611.jp)
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Fit in, or fuck off?
"We're friendly people, and want ***you*** to be friendly people too"
"One of us, one of us, one of us..."
"You WILL be assimilated"
Look, he's just a quiet man, who wants to keep himelf to himself FFS.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11211538 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11211538)
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Fit in, or fuck off?
"We're friendly people, and want ***you*** to be friendly people too"
"One of us, one of us, one of us..."
"You WILL be assimilated"
Look, he's just a quiet man, who wants to keep himelf to himself FFS.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11211538 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11211538)
If I had a neighbour that looked Mr Roger Palfrey I'd surround my house with trees that I couldn't see through too .......
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Yeah 'cause thats a really good idea, nice of you to display the virtues of tolerance that your religion preaches! :wank: :wall: :wank: :wall: (http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/koran-controversy-the-burning-question/13599)
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Was just about to post the same story
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7988506/911-Koran-burning-disrespectful-and-disgraceful-Hillary-Clinton-says.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7988506/911-Koran-burning-disrespectful-and-disgraceful-Hillary-Clinton-says.html)
What a total and utter twat. Instead of a few fundametalists, why not piss off every single member of a religion.
At what point is it OK to intervene and lock this twat away for wilfully committing acts to incite religious hatered? Or is it just plain terrorism?
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-church-to-commemorate-9%1111-by-causing-another-one-201009083071/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-church-to-commemorate-9%1111-by-causing-another-one-201009083071/)
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Fit in, or fuck off?
"We're friendly people, and want ***you*** to be friendly people too"
"One of us, one of us, one of us..."
"You WILL be assimilated"
Look, he's just a quiet man, who wants to keep himelf to himself FFS.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11211538 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11211538)
That tree has to encroach on the quality of light for his neighbour and if that was me that would be my only complaint, if he want's privacy install shutters or shrubs that will grow closer to his property! I'm a bit anal when it comes to light ;D
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-church-to-commemorate-9%1111-by-causing-another-one-201009083071/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-church-to-commemorate-9%1111-by-causing-another-one-201009083071/)
That's fucking brilliant.
Pastor Jones said: "The Ko-ran is a hideous book that condemns homosexuality, sex outwith marriage and abortion while demanding unquestioning obedience to God and making it clear that women are second class citizens.
"Hang on a minute."
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Michael cunt O'Leary at it again :wank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/08/ryanair-axe-unnecessary-co-pilots (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/08/ryanair-axe-unnecessary-co-pilots)
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Michael cunt O'Leary at it again :wank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/08/ryanair-axe-unnecessary-co-pilots (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/08/ryanair-axe-unnecessary-co-pilots)
Free publicity stunt (as mentioned in the article). I'd imagine there are aviation rules that mean there is a legal requirement to have co-pilots, in exactly the same vein that you can not be a standing passenger during take-off and landing as they were proposing a while back (linked from article).
I don't get the animosity people have for Ryan Air, its a free market they can do what they want (including the deviously underhand "you must pay with this obscure card otherwise we'll charge you extra" as its not outside the law). They offer very cheap flights and if you don't want to play their game and accept the break-down of costs (extra for everything!) then its very simple, stop complaining and just fly with someone else, that way RyanAir don't get your dollar and you get a service your happier with (maybe!).
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Michael cunt O'Leary at it again :wank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/08/ryanair-axe-unnecessary-co-pilots (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/08/ryanair-axe-unnecessary-co-pilots)
Free publicity stunt (as mentioned in the article). I'd imagine there are aviation rules that mean there is a legal requirement to have co-pilots, in exactly the same vein that you can not be a standing passenger during take-off and landing as they were proposing a while back (linked from article).
I don't get the animosity people have for Ryan Air.
Beacuse we'd like an airline that flew to the same convient airports, for reasonable prices and yet didn't treat us like cunts.
Ryanair 2007 - Very Funny... Comedy! BRILLIANT VIDEO... WATCH IT NOW! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFNLYnVO9nA#)
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I don't get the animosity people have for Ryan Air, , its a free market they can do what they want (including the deviously underhand "you must pay with this obscure card otherwise we'll charge you extra" as its not outside the law). They offer very cheap flights and if you don't want to play their game and accept the break-down of costs (extra for everything!) then its very simple, stop complaining and just fly with someone else, that way RyanAir don't get your dollar and you get a service your happier with (maybe!).
Beacuse we'd like an airline that flew to the same convient airports, for reasonable prices and yet didn't treat us like cunts.
Lets take a case-study...
I fly once or twice a year to Eire to visit my brother, I've two main options Ryan Air (East Midlands to Dublin price ranges from £0.02-£60 return generally) or Aer Lingus (Manchester to Dublin price ranges from £60-150), BMI Baby never seem as competitive as Aer Lingus and are more of a ballache to get to, so I always jump on the train from Sheffield to Manchester and fly Aer Lingus.
Now how else could I get from Sheffield to Dublin? I could drive and get the ferry, cost == lots more than either. Train to Angelsey then ferry/foot == might be as cheap, but a real ball-ache.
The notion that air-travel should be cheap as chips or a "reasonable price" (which seems to equate to a few pounds in this instance) is bollocks. Aviation fuel is massively subsidised by governments, air-travel is a big contributor to the amount of CO2 in the upper atmosphere, if anything flights should be more expensive in my opinion. Might make people think twice.
And they're not treating you like cunts* either. The traditional model used to have a flat fee for hold-baggage and other sundries such as free drinks/snacks. Not everyone always had hold-baggage to check in, nor wanted anything to eat and drink, yet they paid it anyway in their one price catches all. All RyanAir and other budget arilines have done is break this lump down into components where you then pay for what you use. Not checking hold-baggage in, no need to pay for it, doesn't seem like cuntish behaviour to me.
And my point still stands, if you don't like being treated like a cunt then vote with your wallet and fly with someone else, in real terms its NOT that much more expensive (e.g. my last flights to Eire was far less than what I've just spent driving Sheffield to Arran and back for a weekend break including ferry). Its like going along to a prostitute for some S&M and then complaining about being abused afterwards but going back for more, if you don't like something, don't do it!
* The one exception to that is the crappy "you must use this card otherwise there is a surcharge" but they're well within the law to do so, other companies do it too, so complain about the law itself and get that changed.
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People can vote with their feet. You haven't asked me if I did/do.
It doesn;t change the fact that there is IMHO an unpleasantness about that airline.
Couple of quick e.g's I'm sure there are lots
Attempting to charge disabled people extra:
http://www.stammeringlaw.org.uk/cases/ross.htm (http://www.stammeringlaw.org.uk/cases/ross.htm)
Charging 1300 for 3 violins:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1299616/Ryanair-makes-musicians-buy-seats-VIOLINS.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1299616/Ryanair-makes-musicians-buy-seats-VIOLINS.html)
Your absolutely right that if that people choose with their wallet, and obviously people are happy to use ryanair. Doesn;t change the fact that a lot of people, myself included think they are cunts, who wouldn't know the definition of "goodwill" if it bit them on the arse
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-church-to-commemorate-9%1111-by-causing-another-one-201009083071/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-church-to-commemorate-9%1111-by-causing-another-one-201009083071/)
That's fucking brilliant.
The Google ads at the bottom are great.
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People can vote with their feet. You haven't asked me if I did/do.
Probably because I don't care, but do you?
It doesn;t change the fact that there is IMHO an unpleasantness about that airline.
The reason I don't care is...
If you don't then perpetuating the "stories" is aiding their subtle blatant attempts at free advertising, so perhaps consider not posting their stories and aiding them in that respect.
If you do, why complain about it, you've made an informed choice to do so, so put up and shut up!
Attempting to charge disabled people extra:
http://www.stammeringlaw.org.uk/cases/ross.htm (http://www.stammeringlaw.org.uk/cases/ross.htm)
In no way defending them, but you'll have noted that they weren't alone in being found guilty there, so the airport authority that runs Stanstead is also a cunt.
Charging 1300 for 3 violins:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1299616/Ryanair-makes-musicians-buy-seats-VIOLINS.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1299616/Ryanair-makes-musicians-buy-seats-VIOLINS.html)
Wouldn't trust anything written by a Daily Mail hack, but...
FACT the items were over the permitted size for baggage, its their fault for being ignorant of this and failing to make the necessary arrangements (I suspect they would have been unhappy putting their violins that probably cost at LOT more than the ~£433 a seat cost for each). Hell I could fit into an over-head bin, but I wouldn't be permitted to travel there!
RyanAir are not alone in either preventing over-sized baggage on board nor charging extortionate fees for seats to travel at the last minute, look at how much people forked out for travel (hire car, buses, trains and the few minimal flights that did run) when there were clouds of volcanic ash. Go to any check-in desk and try and book an extra seat as your checking in and you'll likely find its exceptionally high and a complete rip off (they do this because its a free market and they know they have you by the balls).
Your absolutely right that if that people choose with their wallet, and obviously people are happy to use ryanair. Doesn;t change the fact that a lot of people, myself included think they are cunts, who wouldn't know the definition of "goodwill" if it bit them on the arse
So as per above, stop giving them free word-of-mouth advertising by perpetuating their nonsense stories subscripted with a tag line of "...and they're cunts for doing so!"
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The musical instrument thing can apparently get quite bad, they're notorious for selling people seats for their musical instruments and then putting people in them when they've oversold regardless. Also, musicians are now allegedly getting (non RA) junk mail addressed to Messers A. Trombone, A. Cello etc. delivered to their houses when the only time that 'name' has ever been used is for RA seat bookings for their instruments.
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How Taiwan sees the Rooney allegations:
Randy Rooney scores own goal 足球明星魯尼被踢爆 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLaJzjj6uEY&#ws)
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The musical instrument thing can apparently get quite bad, they're notorious for selling people seats for their musical instruments and then putting people in them when they've oversold regardless.
This happens to real people too across all airlines. Its common knowledge/practice for airlines to over-sell seats as historically there are always a few people who don't turn up, and they bank on someone taking the next flight for a small gratuity for the inconvenience (the size of which may vary).
Also, musicians are now allegedly getting (non RA) junk mail addressed to Messers A. Trombone, A. Cello etc. delivered to their houses when the only time that 'name' has ever been used is for RA seat bookings for their instruments.
Welcome to the modern world where every company (including your local council who sell the edited electoral register (http://www.libdemvoice.org/should-copies-of-the-electoral-register-be-put-on-sale-16935.html)) that records your details sells them to marketing companies. Got a discount card for a bar in town, guess what they're doing with your details to recuperate the "discount" you've got.
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This happens to real people too across all airlines. Its common knowledge/practice for airlines to over-sell seats as historically there are always a few people who don't turn up, and they bank on someone taking the next flight for a small gratuity for the inconvenience (the size of which may vary).
They don't make expensive, handmade, irreplaceable, fragile, hundreds-of-years-old (etc.) people get into the overhead lockers if they've paid for a seat and there's already someone in it. Paying jack all and expecting RA to offer good-value sandwiches is utterly naive but they are so un-customer orientated compared to every company I can think of (with the possible exception of the cocks at RBoS) it's astonishing.
I might sound sour, I'm not really. I never progressed past baa baa black sheep on the keyboard and have always gone (definitely not through reasons of brand loyalty) with sleazyjet.
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I don't get the animosity people have for Ryan Air, its a free market they can do what they want (including the deviously underhand "you must pay with this obscure card otherwise we'll charge you extra" as its not outside the law). They offer very cheap flights and if you don't want to play their game and accept the break-down of costs (extra for everything!) then its very simple, stop complaining and just fly with someone else, that way RyanAir don't get your dollar and you get a service your happier with (maybe!).
Because they are a bunch of cunts? I have no intention of ever using them, and I can still call them a bunch of cunts any time I want. Why? Because I think they are a bunch of cunts. Simple. Same as Starbucks, same as MacDonalds same as any organisation I choose not to use.
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Because they are a bunch of cunts? I have no intention of ever using them, and I can still call them a bunch of cunts any time I want. Why? Because I think they are a bunch of cunts. Simple. Same as Starbucks, same as MacDonalds same as any organisation I choose not to use.
You can indeed, but I refer you to my thoughts regarding not perpetuating their free advertising strategies (although perhaps McDonalds should be paying some UKB fees for the inadvertent McFiend advertising that goes on here :-\).
I think quite a few things are cunts/cuntish, but I don't get riled by it and feel the need to post "Grrr, look at these cunts" each time they do some new cuntish thing, particularly when its so transparent that they are playing the media game to get free advertising.
This happens to real people too across all airlines. Its common knowledge/practice for airlines to over-sell seats as historically there are always a few people who don't turn up, and they bank on someone taking the next flight for a small gratuity for the inconvenience (the size of which may vary).
They don't make expensive, handmade, irreplaceable, fragile, hundreds-of-years-old (etc.) people get into the overhead lockers if they've paid for a seat and there's already someone in it.
Eh? You were talking about over booking seats, which happens to people not just over-sized baggage (which is what you originally highlighted it as). The over-sized baggage wouldn't be allowed on board to be placed in the over-head bin....because its over-sized which is why they had to pay for a seat for it in the first place, and excess people aren't allowed to travel! Nowhere have I said that over-sized baggage or people should be placed in over-head compartments, I was making the point that just because something (e.g. violin)/someone (e.g. me) could fit into an over-head bin doesn't mean that it should ("Oh but our violins are only a little bit over the limit and they'd fit in the overhead-bins" which was part of the linked article) :shrug:
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(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:MSAYwPr6LPj-4M:http://www.woofdistribution.com/images/categories/thanksgiving_dog_gets_bone.jpg&t=1)
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Woof!
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Eh? You were talking about over booking seats, which happens to people not just over-sized baggage (which is what you originally highlighted it as). The over-sized baggage wouldn't be allowed on board to be placed in the over-head bin....because its over-sized which is why they had to pay for a seat for it in the first place, and excess people aren't allowed to travel! Nowhere have I said that over-sized baggage or people should be placed in over-head compartments, I was making the point that just because something (e.g. violin)/someone (e.g. me) could fit into an over-head bin doesn't mean that it should
Yeah, I understand that. If someone takes an oversized case onto a plane despite all the warnings not to do so then they're an idiot if they get butt-hurt when they get charged for hold baggage. What I was saying is that when musicians take their musicy things onto a plane, paying for extra seats specifically for the inanimate instruments, they're often fucked by RA who treat their already paid-for non-human seat-bookings as still sell-able seats and insist that the instruments go in over-head lockers or their owners bugger off. This isn't a simple case of 'you get what you pay for', this is RA being dicks because they don't lose any money or any sleep when they fuck people over.
Don't give a crap about their blatant free advertising (which is all clearly a ruse to get people arguing "you get what you pay for so just pipe down" anyway so yes, dog gets bone) any more than I care about musicians but they clearly are dicks with absolutely no respect for anyone.
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I was just taking the piss (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/like_a_dog_with_a_bone) out of slackers.
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Yeah I know, I still always feel like a knob after a UKC-esque pointless debate. It was going so well, I must have made a year without getting sucked into anything and then bamm!. I would post an unfortunately overused XKCD comic but that would just make it official and it's starting to get clichéd too.
Anyway, on a lighter note here's todays obligatory beeb shit journo happy rape/murder/religion/twat-free article that I pay my £150 a year for them to churn out:
can you tell I've had a tough week in the office? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11223473)
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Yeah, I understand that. If someone takes an oversized case onto a plane despite all the warnings not to do so then they're an idiot if they get butt-hurt when they get charged for hold baggage. What I was saying is that when musicians take their musicy things onto a plane, paying for extra seats specifically for the inanimate instruments, they're often fucked by RA who treat their already paid-for non-human seat-bookings as still sell-able seats and insist that the instruments go in over-head lockers or their owners bugger off. This isn't a simple case of 'you get what you pay for', this is RA being dicks because they don't lose any money or any sleep when they fuck people over.
a) They wouldn't insist the instruments go in over-head lockers, theres a reason they had to purchase a seat for the item it to travel in in the first place.
b) That would happen with any airline though 'cause they all over sell seats, its not an RyanAir exclusive practice. It existed long before RyanAir even came into business. It sucks yes, some airlines will put you up in a hotel pay for your meals and give you some extra cash for the inconvenience, when they have overbooked and everyone turns up, others will offer less (which is unfair). Solution
I just see no point in going "Oh look, people who we knew to be cunts are saying their going to do more cuntish things just to get free advertising, lets spread that around everywhere and tell everyone how much of a cunt that makes them".
When there is no prior knowledge or example of cuntish behaviour and some transpires thats of more interest.
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I don't get the animosity people have for Ryan Air, its a free market they can do what they want (including the deviously underhand "you must pay with this obscure card otherwise we'll charge you extra" as its not outside the law). They offer very cheap flights and if you don't want to play their game and accept the break-down of costs (extra for everything!) then its very simple, stop complaining and just fly with someone else, that way RyanAir don't get your dollar and you get a service your happier with (maybe!).
Because they are a bunch of cunts? I have no intention of ever using them, and I can still call them a bunch of cunts any time I want. Why? Because I think they are a bunch of cunts. Simple. Same as Starbucks, same as MacDonalds same as any organisation I choose not to use.
I agree that RA are cnuts. But at least McDonalds and Starbucks deliver a shit product well (strike me down but I quite like Starbucks coffee). Unlike RA which delivers a shit product shitly - and they make you pay extra for the pleasure of paying (per person not per transationn which is highly suspect - unless you have the XYZ pre pay debit card - jesus its like a f*kcing game figuring out how to pay the cocksuckers without an extra charge!)
RA are my last resort airline. If I have to be somewhere and the only way of reasonably getting there is RA then I will sit and suffer for the experience. But I would rather eat my own hair. Smeared in dog shit. In a sewer. In a war zone. With westlife tinkling along in the background. Whilst a S&M midget is bbq'ing my feet. While it was raining. And having to listen to Jim Davidson reading out loud a Jeremy Clarkson book.
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....and eating a bacon and egg McMuffin?
Maybe not that bad actually.
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....and eating a bacon and egg McMuffin?
Jim Davidson or the S&M dwarf? ;)
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I think quite a few things are cunts/cuntish, but I don't get riled by it and feel the need to post "Grrr, look at these cunts" each time they do some new cuntish thing, particularly when its so transparent that they are playing the media game to get free advertising.
Fair enough but
a) you should, it's good for your mental healtth to vent your anger somwhere and
b) you shouldn't let it bother you if other people do.
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Yeah 'cause thats a really good idea, nice of you to display the virtues of tolerance that your religion preaches! :wank: :wall: :wank: :wall: (http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/koran-controversy-the-burning-question/13599)
This is the "burning the Koran-protected-by-'our'-free-speech-right story" isn't it?
(I can just tell without looking.)
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I think quite a few things are cunts/cuntish, but I don't get riled by it and feel the need to post "Grrr, look at these cunts" each time they do some new cuntish thing, particularly when its so transparent that they are playing the media game to get free advertising.
Fair enough but
a) you should, it's good for your mental healtth to vent your anger somwhere and
Venting is indeed all good, but to help cunts with their free advertising strategy seems to be somewhat ludicrous.
b) you shouldn't let it bother you if other people do.
It was a slow day.
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So they are cunts now? :)
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(http://www.wipstudios.com/shotgunsolutions/apt106/photos/PensacolaImages/images/Patrick_fights_venomous_snake_with_Hillel_poking_stick.jpg)
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Pressure mounts:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/08/phone-hacking-news-of-the-world-witness?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/08/phone-hacking-news-of-the-world-witness?CMP=twt_gu)
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Pressure mounts:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/08/phone-hacking-news-of-the-world-witness?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/08/phone-hacking-news-of-the-world-witness?CMP=twt_gu)
Good. Good. Good and Good again. Nail the fuckers.
I hope someone is able to follow the trail of dirty money all the way up to Murcoch...
This whole saga has of course led me to a state of paranoia. Worried that work have hacked my mobile I have got MrsTT to leave a series of fake answerphone messages saying 'Could you work at home today as the boiler needs fixing' and 'the cat needs taking to the vet' etc.. to justify my skiving working at home.
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Why do you keep complaining about NotW? If you don't like what they do, just don't buy the newspaper.
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Why do you keep complaining about NotW? If you don't like what they do, just don't buy the newspaper.
:lol:
I think whats more interesting about this is the police failing to follow up anything beyond the royal family.
(I don't buy any newspapers btw)
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Prove anything by ignoring some of your data! (http://trusttheevidence.net/carl-heneghan/vitamin-b-and-slowing-the-rate-of-brain-atrophy-the-numbers-don%E2%80%99t-add-up/100909109)
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Kay Burley is a retard:
Chris Bryant tears into Kay Burley on Sky News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDYalpZhG_8#)
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caught this on radio 4 today:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11268644 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11268644)
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I heard that too. I just laughed at first- I thought it was a load of rubbish.
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OK. As "news" it's not exactly "box fresh". But it's hard to argue with this.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/cnn-to-replace-larry-king-with-a-prick-201009093077/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/cnn-to-replace-larry-king-with-a-prick-201009093077/)
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BBC FOUR - The Trouble with Pirates (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tr1q3) OK so its not really tip top, brand spanking new, news. And yes, its an hour long, but I thought its a pretty balanced view on the piracy situation in Somalia that is well worth a watch. Anyone else see this last night?
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Fantasist or someone who's only just realised that getting done for wasting police time might be better than getting done for murder?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-11297111 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-11297111)
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6Q9wAorJq9c/Rux6T_t8m3I/AAAAAAAAAEo/ZGRvuiXBSUU/s1600/storm_in_teacup+-+BW.jpg)
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"Science" Minister launches anti-evolutionist book (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0913/breaking61.html?via=mr)
For fuck sake, we don't half live up to stereotypes over here sometimes! He's backed out of it since. Obviously after somebody told him he's a fucking halfwit, as he's clearly too dim to figure it out on his own :furious:
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Wham! him in the slammer! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11299938)
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(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01111/gm380_1111970j.jpg)
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Genius find there Jasper :bow:
Apparently we live in a third world country anyway (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11317441) no wonder there is so much poverty!
Fucking twat!
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Utter prick.
Just seen that the ASA are disgracefully kowtowing to the Catholic church:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/ice-cream-pregnant-nun-ad-banned# (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/ice-cream-pregnant-nun-ad-banned#)
At least The Mash are on the case:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/if-ice-cream-adverts-can%27t-offend-catholics-then-what-are-they-for?-asks-britain-201009153088/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/if-ice-cream-adverts-can%27t-offend-catholics-then-what-are-they-for?-asks-britain-201009153088/)
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Utter prick.
Just seen that the ASA are disgracefully kowtowing to the Catholic church:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/ice-cream-pregnant-nun-ad-banned# (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/ice-cream-pregnant-nun-ad-banned#)
Clocked that earlier, at least they're planning alternative posters around Westminster when the pope wanker is due to visit. As the ASA said, they can't pre-emptively ban something (see Independent write-up (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/advertising/ice-cream-firm-antonio-federici--vows-to-defy-ban-on-pregnant-nun-advert-2079814.html)).
In different news....as if further confirmation were required (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/julie-burchill/julie-burchill-you-cant-part-a-phoney-from-his-money-in-the-age-of-the-hypercrite-2079387.html).
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(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg837/scaled.php?tn=0&server=837&filename=7q.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
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Utter prick.
Just seen that the ASA are disgracefully kowtowing to the Catholic church:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/ice-cream-pregnant-nun-ad-banned# (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/15/ice-cream-pregnant-nun-ad-banned#)
Clocked that earlier, at least they're planning alternative posters around Westminster when the pope wanker is due to visit. As the ASA said, they can't pre-emptively ban something (see Independent write-up (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/advertising/ice-cream-firm-antonio-federici--vows-to-defy-ban-on-pregnant-nun-advert-2079814.html)).
In different news....as if further confirmation were required (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/julie-burchill/julie-burchill-you-cant-part-a-phoney-from-his-money-in-the-age-of-the-hypercrite-2079387.html).
Is it too soon to repeat this?
The BBC can endlessly repeat BlackAdder and Fawlty Towers and get away with it, so I'll play the "I'm doing it because I want to card."
Take it away, Paul and Gordon
(http://[url=http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm129/todgertalk/stingbono.jpg]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm129/todgertalk/stingbono.jpg[/url])
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(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm129/todgertalk/stingbono.jpg)
Fixed?
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more mashness :bow:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/queen-to-have-lunch-with-insane-criminal-201009163093/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/queen-to-have-lunch-with-insane-criminal-201009163093/)
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Seems the cardinal was towing the party line (http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/647) Hypocritical :wank:
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Fixed?
OK, OK. It's a fair cop. I'll come quietly guv'nor.
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Seems the cardinal was towing the party line (http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/647) Hypocritical :wank:
In case anyone missed it, it's worth repeating that line from his speech.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2010/09/16/papal-visit-2010-popes-holyroodhouse-speech-full-text/ (http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2010/09/16/papal-visit-2010-popes-holyroodhouse-speech-full-text/)
As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny” (Caritas in Veritate, 29).
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(http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/resources/images/1422655/?type=display)
Ram raid in Lancashire (http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8391240._Ram_raid__on_Tockholes_home_as_animal_goes_berserk/)
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Wham! him in the slammer! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11299938)
Apparently he has dedicated a new song to his Skinhead Cellmate: Hairless Fister.
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Seems the cardinal was towing the party line (http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/647) Hypocritical :wank:
offs.
It just gets worse.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/8005417/Coalition-We-will-restore-faith-to-heart-of-Britain.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/8005417/Coalition-We-will-restore-faith-to-heart-of-Britain.html)
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Oh gods. Silly me. Missing the point / not-at-all-hidden agenda again.
Baroness Warsi, the Conservative Party chairman, said that the new Government "understands" faith and wanted religious groups to play a greater and more prominent role in Britain, including the provision of public services.
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Indeed, as a confirmed and millitant atheist what a load of shit.
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Seems the cardinal was towing the party line (http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/647) Hypocritical :wank:
Has no-one told him the good news about Godwin?
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/163348990.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284730156&Signature=0X0IAPv1d9Mej71B3f5mLVOmcsc%3D)
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http://www.ukbouldering.com/wiki/index.php/HowTo_Embed_Pictures_to_UKBouldering (http://www.ukbouldering.com/wiki/index.php/HowTo_Embed_Pictures_to_UKBouldering)
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There is a little "preview" button next to the "post" button that helps you if you don't know what you are doing when doing technically challenging posts
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*highfive*
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Insert your own Daily Mail-style outraged subheading-cum-editorial comment.
I think I'll just stick to "you couldn't make it up"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-11340226 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-11340226)
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How about:
"Did these stupid cunts not realise that they were moving next door to a school?" :wank:
(do they allow "wank" smilies in the Fail?)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-suffocating-the-poor-a-modern-parable-2081411.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-suffocating-the-poor-a-modern-parable-2081411.html) :wank:
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There is a little "preview" button next to the "post" button that helps you if you don't know what you are doing when doing technically challenging posts
I had previewed it and it appeared correctly in the preview, probably because I had the page open in another tab and it was cached.
http://www.ukbouldering.com/wiki/index.php/HowTo_Embed_Pictures_to_UKBouldering (http://www.ukbouldering.com/wiki/index.php/HowTo_Embed_Pictures_to_UKBouldering)
If and when I suss out how to embed pictures hosted at TwitPic I'll update that, if anyone else works it out in the mean time feel free to write it up.
Here's a link instead (http://twitpic.com/2p94vy)
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/163348990.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284740594&Signature=%2FlxSNrgmMooQIL%2FGpcaUA8qN%2BP8%3D)
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Hmm, thats strange, I pasted that URL last time although the 'Signature=' that authorises access differs (see below). Do you have a twitpic account chillax? That could be the crux
Chillax http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/163348990.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284740594&Signature=%2FlxSNrgmMooQIL%2FGpcaUA8qN%2BP8%3D (http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/163348990.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284740594&Signature=%2FlxSNrgmMooQIL%2FGpcaUA8qN%2BP8%3D)
Me http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/163348990.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284730156&Signature=0X0IAPv1d9Mej71B3f5mLVOmcsc%3D (http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/163348990.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284730156&Signature=0X0IAPv1d9Mej71B3f5mLVOmcsc%3D)
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Hmm, thats strange, I pasted that URL last time although the 'Signature=' that authorises access differs (see below). Do you have a twitpic account chillax? That could be the crux
Chillax' hotlink did work for me and now doesn't, looks like the tinyurl style redirect adds some kind of crypt that changes every hour or so to stop hotlinking. Probably easiest reposting to imagebucket or wherever.
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Nope, no account slackers. The post was in the name of SCIENCE to see if the same thing would happen twice. It appears it does. The best approach for twitpic would seem to be linking rather than embedding, or if you have more time do what stevej said.
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Ever felt under-dressed and in need of clothes quick? Well suffer in silence no longer! All you need is a handy can of fabri-can (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8007246/Spray-on-clothing-in-a-can-to-be-launched.html)!
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Exemplary tabloid journalism (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/09/blink-and-youll-miss-it.html) :wank: :wall:
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Anyone seen a lettuce with a face? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-11380834)
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Exemplary tabloid journalism (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/09/blink-and-youll-miss-it.html) :wank: :wall:
Meanwhile, over at the Mail, they're covering the really important stories of the week.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313449/How-familys-pet-dog-came-dead-rock-star.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313449/How-familys-pet-dog-came-dead-rock-star.html)
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Exemplary tabloid journalism (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/09/blink-and-youll-miss-it.html) :wank: :wall:
Meanwhile, over at the Mail, they're covering the really important stories of the week.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313449/How-familys-pet-dog-came-dead-rock-star.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313449/How-familys-pet-dog-came-dead-rock-star.html)
Could anyone actually see a dog?
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No.
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Exemplary tabloid journalism (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/09/blink-and-youll-miss-it.html) :wank: :wall:
Meanwhile, over at the Mail, they're covering the really important stories of the week.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313449/How-familys-pet-dog-came-dead-rock-star.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313449/How-familys-pet-dog-came-dead-rock-star.html)
Could anyone actually see a dog?
you need to page down about half a page.
It's on the right-hand side.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/19/article-1313449-0B2FC86D000005DC-136_306x481.jpg)
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/19/article-1313449-0B2FC861000005DC-626_634x765.jpg)
She's no oil painting but I still can't see the resemblance.
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When you stretch out the image, you can just about see what they mean......ish.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/6hm1cg.jpg)
Sorry for the shitty image quality, t'was literally a 2 minute job. Squint your eyes. In any case, another fine example of what passes for news in the Dail FAIL.
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Chilean Economist Manfred Max-Neef: US Is Becoming an "Underdeveloping Nation" A must watch/read.
We act systematically against the evidences we have. We know everything that should not be done. There’s nobody that doesn’t know that. Particularly the big politicians know exactly what should not be done. Yet they do it. After what happened since October 2008, I mean, elementally, you would think what? That now they’re going to change. I mean, they see that the model is not working. The model is even poisonous, you know? Dramatically poisonous. And what is the result, and what happened in the last meeting of the European Union? They are more fundamentalist now than before. So, the only thing you know that you can be sure of, that the next crisis is coming, and it will be twice as much as this one. And for that one, there won’t be enough money anymore. So that will be it. And that is the consequence of systematical human stupidity
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/22/chilean_economist_manfred_max_neef_us (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/22/chilean_economist_manfred_max_neef_us)
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Paul Chambers appeal against his disgraceful conviction in the Twitter Joke Trial is tomorrow. It's vitally important that he wins, to clear his name and allow him to get on with his life but also for everyone who writes anything on the internet, or in a text, or says something.........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/19/nick-cohen-terrorism-twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/19/nick-cohen-terrorism-twitter)
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/09/paul-chambers-betjeman-cps (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/09/paul-chambers-betjeman-cps)
http://crazycolours.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/twitterjoketrial-and-a-thank-you/ (http://crazycolours.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/twitterjoketrial-and-a-thank-you/)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/23/un-panel-israel-war-crimes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/23/un-panel-israel-war-crimes)
Read the conclusions from p54:
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/15session/A.HRC.15.21_en.pdf (http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/15session/A.HRC.15.21_en.pdf)
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Paul Chambers appeal against his disgraceful conviction in the Twitter Joke Trial is tomorrow. It's vitally important that he wins, to clear his name and allow him to get on with his life but also for everyone who writes anything on the internet, or in a text, or says something.........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/19/nick-cohen-terrorism-twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/19/nick-cohen-terrorism-twitter)
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/09/paul-chambers-betjeman-cps (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/09/paul-chambers-betjeman-cps)
http://crazycolours.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/twitterjoketrial-and-a-thank-you/ (http://crazycolours.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/twitterjoketrial-and-a-thank-you/)
"UKB server is down. You've got a week and a bit to get your shit together, otherwise I'm blowing UKB Towers sky high!"
:oops:
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While we're on all the old favourites (http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_bono-s-charity-accused-of-spending-more-on-wages-than-good-causes_1442181), rather than any "new" news…
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Not new news again. In fact not news at all but still....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/is-gideon-levy-the-most-hated-man-in-israel-or-just-the-most-heroic-2087909.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/is-gideon-levy-the-most-hated-man-in-israel-or-just-the-most-heroic-2087909.html)
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Silly Cow...... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11399466)
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Parasite http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html) >:(
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Probably wrong to laugh, but laugh I did
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=154783875 (http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=154783875)
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Some irony there!
Gullible god squad make something out of nothing (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/27/m25_curse/)
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"People were waving and shouting and beeping their horns, the whole atmosphere was great."
Did you hear what they were shouting? ;)
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Time for a suicide pact? (Would mean there are two less idiots in the world at least!) (http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/neo-nazi-couple-find-out-theyre-jewish/19648414)
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:agree:
Fucking retards.
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Time for a suicide pact? (Would mean there are two less idiots in the world at least!) (http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/neo-nazi-couple-find-out-theyre-jewish/19648414)
Black White Supremist Dave Chappelle Complete (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHFUH_frhBw#)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-11419498 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-11419498) Dead rat in loaf of bread.
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Sorry it's a mouse :oops:
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good news for real ale
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8290264.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8290264.stm)
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Time for a suicide pact? (Would mean there are two less idiots in the world at least!) (http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/neo-nazi-couple-find-out-theyre-jewish/19648414)
"I feel sorry for those that I beat up," Pawel said. "But I don't hold a grudge against myself."
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they've now embraced their Jewish identity and are active in their local orthodox synagogue
Astonishing. If you can't beat 'em (all up), join 'em.
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Putting a
foot cock in your mouth (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11419212) :lol:
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Fair and just... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-11426787)
...providing those who take tea and coffee breaks have to clock off too
(I'm a smoker who doesn't drink tea or coffee, nor do I smoke before or during work unless I go to the pub at lunch time and over the yeras the number of coffee breaks some colleagues take far outweighs smoking breaks of others!).
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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5669 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5669)
A computer virus attacked Iran’s Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant. Though no harm was done, some experts say the Stuxnet worm could mean a new age of cyber warfare.
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‘Stonehenge boy’ probably killed by early Daily Mail readers (http://newsarse.com/2010/09/29/stonehenge-boy-probably-killed-by-early-daily-mail-readers/) ;D
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http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/stalkbook-facebook-places-launches-in-australia-20100930-15yb6.html (http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/stalkbook-facebook-places-launches-in-australia-20100930-15yb6.html)
Can anybody tell me in what way the above article is not just a blatant piece of advertising posing as a news item?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11441045 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11441045)
Fancy that, a professional cyclist in a doping controversy!
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http://japantoday.com/category/national/view/3-japanese-sherpa-guide-missing-on-nepal-peak (http://japantoday.com/category/national/view/3-japanese-sherpa-guide-missing-on-nepal-peak)
Sobering stuff, fingers crossed they're ok as unlikely as it is.
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Another muppet follows his SatNav too far (following a goat trail up a mountain!) (http://www.reghardware.com/2010/09/29/satnav_error_van_driver_stuck_on_mountain/)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/28/article-1315762-0B61ECCE000005DC-239_634x435.jpg)
....and then has his van airlifted out :o 8)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/28/article-1315762-0B61ECC6000005DC-425_634x765.jpg)
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I'm Batman (http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/29092010/36/buy-batmobile-pound-100-000-0.html) who the fuck are you?
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http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3025399.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3025399.htm)
The articles interesting but some of the comments left by male readers are staggering! Since moving back over here I'll admit I've been disturbed by the neanderthal attitude towards women that still seems to exist amongst a large proportion of Australian men.
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Lets slap in a cell and get him convicted, never mind the fact that he might have mental health issues and need some compassion, oh no thats not on, we must throw the book at him. :wall: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-11448726)
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The chances are he will have been removed to a place of safety with a view to a review under the MHA and a section. The police are suprisingly compassionate and professional in this sort of situation.
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Shame their spokespeople can't convey this compassion to the media, and feel the need to be seen to be hardline. Its not that hard to be honest really.
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Having dealt with police style PR I can say that they're almost without exception retarded fuck monkeys.
Have you ever thought that a dismembered body that has been shot and stabbed several times might be anything other than a 'suspicious death'?
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Reminds me of Alan Mullin unfortunately. Not a great outcome.
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Taking steroids 'made me a beast' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/11375838)
Not quite what I hoped for.
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Screw the fingerboard, dems be the real beastmakers
*ahem*
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Taking steroids 'made me a beast' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/11375838)
Not quite what I hoped for.
I'm just :-[ and dissapointed you chose that story over the UK mattress domino toppling record!!! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11459365) ;D ;)
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Crap news (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11444893) but fuck me sideways, how horribly middle class is this.
Amateur photographer Simon George, of Henlow in Bedfordshire, has been documenting the comings and goings of a black squirrel in his back garden for several years.
"We more or less adopted her, and called her Coffee. She would come if you called her and ate out of our hands; she loved Waitrose finest walnuts. She had a litter of six last summer and survived the snow of last winter, but we have not seen her, or any other squirrel, since March."
I can't even afford tesco walnuts.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8045678/Pictures-of-the-day-6-October-2010.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8045678/Pictures-of-the-day-6-October-2010.html)
!
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Old news (late sept) but still quite bizzar none the less Orphaned Coatimundi gets climbing lesson in the sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3147058/Climbing-class-for-furry-critter.html) and also in the tory graph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8017921/Pictures-of-the-day-22-September-2010.html?image=6)
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U-Boat found on Leeds - Liverpool Canal
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/07/search-lancashire-u-boat-commander (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/07/search-lancashire-u-boat-commander)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2010/10/7/1286472007898/U-boat-canal-barge-006.jpg)
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U-Boat found on Leeds - Liverpool Canal
awesome find tomtom :lol: :lol:
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That's still at Botany Bay at the moment, been there a few of weeks.
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This is a superb article. Part of me wonders if its made up its so incredulous... Sadly I suspect not...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god)
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But this one looks like something from the onion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/07/weezer-offered-10m-split-up (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/07/weezer-offered-10m-split-up)
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I must be getting old.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/gordonfarquhar/2010/10/in_a_jam_over_jerusalem.html#comments (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/gordonfarquhar/2010/10/in_a_jam_over_jerusalem.html#comments)
Either this is true genius, or one of the most stupid things anyone has ever said on the internet.
11. At 9:49pm on 05 Oct 2010, zergon wrote:
Jerusalem is a Chritian hymn. How does that work for Muslim or Jewish medallists?
And I cannot fathom which.
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This is a superb article. Part of me wonders if its made up its so incredulous... Sadly I suspect not...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god)
No I think they really are that stupid.
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This is a superb article. Part of me wonders if its made up its so incredulous... Sadly I suspect not...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god)
No I think they really are that stupid.
Really quite bizarre.. I tihnk I read it with mouth open in 'can people really think like that' type gobsmackedness....
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No I think they really are that stupid.
Really quite bizarre.. I think I read it with mouth open in 'can people really think like that' type gobsmackedness....
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just 'cause you know how magnets work and don't marvel at the wonder of giraffes ;D ;D I was reading that in bed last night thinking WTF... too mental for insane clowns
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No I think they really are that stupid.
Really quite bizarre.. I think I read it with mouth open in 'can people really think like that' type gobsmackedness....
just 'cause you know how magnets work and don't marvel at the wonder of giraffes ;D ;D I was reading that in bed last night thinking WTF... too mental for insane clowns
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yeah man, its like giraffes... they've got those long necks - AND they're yellow man... ;D
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Imagine if one of them saw a DOUBLE rainbow?
In other "news", more Daily Fail cuntishness:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/6363953/what-a-coincidence.thtml (http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/6363953/what-a-coincidence.thtml)
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/students-to-pay-%C2%A336%2c000-for-magic-beans-201010123157/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/students-to-pay-%C2%A336%2c000-for-magic-beans-201010123157/)
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;D ;D
http://www.ihateryanair.org/ (http://www.ihateryanair.org/)
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(http://i.imgur.com/4OCuz.jpg) (http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2010/10/13/chilean-miners-theyre-not-heroes-they-just-got-stuck/)
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:lol:
Just made me desperate to play Lemmings!
http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/ (http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/)
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Genius find slackers ;D (I like the detail - like the miner counter!)
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Banks set to demand fresh bail-out in 2011, warns think-tank!
http://www.neweconomics.org/press-releases/banks-set-to-demand-fresh-bail-out-in-2011-warns-think-tank (http://www.neweconomics.org/press-releases/banks-set-to-demand-fresh-bail-out-in-2011-warns-think-tank)
Is George Osborne cutting for a rainy day of bailouts?
http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/2010/10/05/is-george-osborne-cutting-for-a-rainy-day-of-bailouts?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+neweconomics%2Fblog+%28the+new+economics+foundation+blog%29 (http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/2010/10/05/is-george-osborne-cutting-for-a-rainy-day-of-bailouts?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+neweconomics%2Fblog+%28the+new+economics+foundation+blog%29)
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Margaret Thatcher must be f*****g gutted, her 85th birthday and the only thing on telly -miners celebrating!
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"Multiculturalism has failed in Germany"
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/1017/Germany-s-Angela-Merkel-Multiculturalism-has-utterly-failed (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/1017/Germany-s-Angela-Merkel-Multiculturalism-has-utterly-failed)
Why not give monoculturalism another spin of the wheel then, given its overwhelming success the last time your country tried it?
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Benoit Mandelbrot has died.
Fortunately for the Police, there are no suspicious circumstances - otherwise it would have been a bugger of a job drawing that chalk outline.
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Or if he were murdered would it be a serial or self-similar killer?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/18/blackpool-bus-drivers-suspended (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/18/blackpool-bus-drivers-suspended)
Good to see a company taking H&S seriously.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/18/blackpool-bus-drivers-suspended (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/18/blackpool-bus-drivers-suspended)
Good to see a company taking H&S seriously.
The company has shot themselves in the foot, absolute weight is not a good measure of how well someone can fit into a tight space (although it will tend to correlate). They should have instead used girth to justify it.
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Indeed, but weight is just so much easier to measure.
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Either poor journalism or they haven't weighed them accurately (article states their weight as being "around 20 stone").
Girth is very easy to measure...
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2787498/2/istockphoto_2787498-tape-measure.jpg)
...providing its long enough!
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Marmite vs. the BNP (http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/industry/government-news/marmite-brings-british-national-party-to-its-knees/3016002.article)
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Marmite vs. the BNP (http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/industry/government-news/marmite-brings-british-national-party-to-its-knees/3016002.article)
Anonymous | Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:14 pm
Well, I won,t be buying marmite again, or any other unilever products if I can help it
or using those filthy apostrophes again
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html)
Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. There's a surprise!
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html)
Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. There's a surprise!
OH SLOPER!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!???
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This is a good one. Daily Mail journalism at it's finest, torn to shreds by Tabloid Watch.....
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/10/mail-blames-muslims-over-planning.html (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/10/mail-blames-muslims-over-planning.html)
But wait! What's that Matthew Wright (you odious Kyle lookalike scumbag)?
http://twitter.com/#]
[url]http://twitter.com/# (http://[url)!/5WrightStuff/status/28379555286[/url]
:wank: :wank: :wank:
This was highlighted by Mark Thomas on Twitter.
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Lies, Damn Lies and Medical Science (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/2/)
Based on the original article in PLoS Medicine (Open Access journal) (http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124).
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HMS (Not so) Astute (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-11605365) :lol:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html)
Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. There's a surprise!
OH SLOPER!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!???
|All that shows is that the Telegraph is now nothing more than a broadsheet version of the Mail and that the government are planning on ensuring the security services have the means to do what they've been doing for a 100 or so years but in a modern era.
I don't see that they're planning on requiring providers to record the data and pass it on or create a database of communications etc so it seems that the DT is staffed by morons.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/25/charlie-brooker-nick-clegg (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/25/charlie-brooker-nick-clegg) :thumbsup:
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Balls!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8630592.stm)
Even worse :'( (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11595485)
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Do not piss tradesmen off before (http://www.oh-yay.com/hey-dude-tatts-the-wrong-tattoo-on-my-back-883789.html) they've finished the job you're paying them to do!
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That's quality!
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Today's slice of Daily Fail shite:
http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2010/10/oliversmohammeds-are-coming.html (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2010/10/oliversmohammeds-are-coming.html)
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Today's slice of Daily Fail shite:
http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2010/10/oliversmohammeds-are-coming.html (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2010/10/oliversmohammeds-are-coming.html)
Apropos of the above.
Did we do this one?
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/10/mail-blames-muslims-over-planning.html (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/10/mail-blames-muslims-over-planning.html)
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This guys distressed and bleeding from a stab wound, lets punch him in the head (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/10/28/stab-victim-suing-merseyside-police-over-claim-he-was-beaten-by-bobbies-as-he-lay-bleeding-in-stanley-park-100252-27556778/) :shrug:
I somehow doubt paramedics would have taken the same course of action and would most probably have stood back and refused to treat until the guy calmed down.
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We're all in this together, part 1230
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/oct/28/uk-boardroo-pay-soars (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/oct/28/uk-boardroo-pay-soars)
:jaw: :wall: :wank: :alky:
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Just heard on 6music news, man takes the piss on Jade Goody's and other dead people's facebook tribute pages. Gets jailed for 18 weeks.
sorry for the daily fail link. No web news concerning sentencing yet (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319080/Unemployed-man-faces-jail-leaving-obscene-messages-internet-tribute-sites.html?ITO=1490)
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How does someone homeless afford to access the internet to troll? :shrug:
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Where does it say he's homeless? :-\
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Where does it say he's homeless? :-\
:oops: Shouldn't try reading multiple news items simultaneously.
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Alcohol more harmful than heroin (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210)
Best make sure you've declared your potential conflict of interest though Prof. Nutt (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6874884/Alcohol-substitute-that-avoids-drunkenness-and-hangovers-in-development.html)!!
Really what is the point of drinking and not getting drunk? If you want to drink and not get drunk, have something that doesn't contain alcohol. If you only want to be a little tipsy drink a little and then stop. :wall:
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The way it's been reported today reminded me of
(http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive/phd051809s.gif)
Science News Cycle (http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174)
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(http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg/windstalk.jpg)
Windstalk concept generating electricity from the wind without turbines (http://www.gizmag.com/windstalk-concept/16647/) A plate will be spun at the top of every pole ;D
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Alcohol more harmful than heroin (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210)
Original report now Online @ The Lancet (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/fulltext)
Best make sure you've declared your potential conflict of interest though Prof. Nutt (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6874884/Alcohol-substitute-that-avoids-drunkenness-and-hangovers-in-development.html)!!
Not declared as a potential conflict of interest.
Although to be fair I doubt that thats the reason why Alcohol comes out top after reading their weight criteria.
EDIT : Correcting quote cock-up, but also an interesting article looking at decriminalisation in Portugal (http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/6/999.full).
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"Appeared"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11663682 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11663682)
High street chain Selfridges has offered £10,000 to the family of Frank Sidebottom's creator after it appeared to use his head in a window display.
Oh go on. You decide!
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49731000/jpg/_49731226_frank304_pa.jpg)
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Copyright and Intellectual Property laws to be reviewed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11695416) about time!!!
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Muggers who tried to rob a woman walking home at night were forced to flee when their intended victim turned out to be a former world kickboxing champion. (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23894396-muggers-meet-their-match-in-woman-kickboxing-champ.do)
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The beats are so good.....and the kids love it
Rock on Grandma!!!
DJ Mamy Rock (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11716263)
Granny DJ owns the dance floor! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA9uwBbrjhU#)
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BT & Talk Talk win judicial review of Digital Economy Bill (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/nov/10/bt-talktalk-digital-economy-act) :thumbsup:
(Important enough to be of wider interest beyond IT news)
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firearms officer accused of slipping song titles into evidence (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/04/saunders-firearms-song-officer-suspended)
the actual 'song titles' he used: 'enough is enough' 'in the line of fire' 'point of no return' 'quiet moments' 'kicking myself' and another one that the usually un-mail-like guadian made up because they couldn't find any more, all cunningly concealed in however many hours of courtroom.
Full story and transcipt here (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/11/firearms-officer-transcript) Someone even listed the song names the coroner 'used'. Naturally it was twice as long.
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Honestly officer I have no idea how that got there (http://www.live5news.com/Global/story.asp?S=13465624) :shrug:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8132290/Australian-politician-claims-Britain-is-overrun-with-immigrants-and-refugees.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8132290/Australian-politician-claims-Britain-is-overrun-with-immigrants-and-refugees.html)
You lucky bastards! We thought we were going to get rid of this half-wit.
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Commiserations.
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:wall:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2010/nov/15/killer-driver-sues-over-cycle-helmet (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2010/nov/15/killer-driver-sues-over-cycle-helmet)
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I bet you have to laugh when you read the name of the venue where this happened... http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/17/3068580.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/17/3068580.htm)
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FORM THE WAGONS INTO A CIRCLE!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/17/sarah-palin-president-bid-2012 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/17/sarah-palin-president-bid-2012)
*blowsbrainsout*
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The perfect crime : Kill your twin (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/18/australian-woman-wounded-dead-twin) then the authorities don't know which one of you has been killed and which has survived.
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Two posts up...... :whistle:
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:oops: I knew I'd already read it somewhere before.
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Fucking retarded Jobsworths, they can still be recycled (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-11793136) :thumbsdown:
Perhaps the best option if willing to do something yourself to clear up a beauty spot would be to not tell the twats that its not from your home.
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Forgot to post this yesterday.
Free solar panels in Sheffield/South Yorks (if you've a south facing roof -/+ 30o) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-11786654)
Apply (http://www.ashadegreener.co.uk/)
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That looks interesting. Good find slackers.
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http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/848009-paul-chambers-to-challenge-twitter-joke-trial-appeal-verdict-in-high-court (http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/848009-paul-chambers-to-challenge-twitter-joke-trial-appeal-verdict-in-high-court)
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http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/24/palin-north-korea/ (http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/24/palin-north-korea/)
:wall:
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Experts have cast doubt on the science behind a hologrammed rubber bracelet which claimed to improve balance, strength and flexibility among users.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11805616 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11805616)
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Experts have cast doubt on the science behind a hologrammed rubber bracelet which claimed to improve balance, strength and flexibility among users.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11805616 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11805616)
Shirely thats all lies......damned-lies I tell thee. I have 12 on each arm and now i'm as strong as two short planks ;D
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Experts have cast doubt on the science behind a hologrammed rubber bracelet which claimed to improve balance, strength and flexibility among users.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11805616 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11805616)
How does a cock ring do that then? Must be a fake :shrug:
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Wonder what happens if you put one on your Johnson :shrug:
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Protecting the vulnerable? Or guilty until proven innocent? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332843/Police-ban-suspected-wife-beaters-returning-home.html)
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Protecting the vulnerable? Or guilty until proven innocent? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332843/Police-ban-suspected-wife-beaters-returning-home.html)
Bit of lateral thinking required here, I guess.
It's one way of getting your officers off the sick and back to work
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Strange move the the Kuwait government
(http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MzAwMTg4ODg1)
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Wonder what happens if you put one on your Johnson :shrug:
(http://www.wickedfood.co.za/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lamb-tail-1.jpg)
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Protecting the vulnerable? Or guilty until proven innocent? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332843/Police-ban-suspected-wife-beaters-returning-home.html)
It used to be called conditional bail and enforced with remand in custody if breached.
Domestic violence is a massive problem with often years of non reports, retractions and so on.
Not really sure what the solution is but dedicated projects are the way to explore different proposals.
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Wonder what happens if you put one on your Johnson :shrug:
(http://www.sausagemania.com/images/tutorial/DSC_0677.jpg)
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More on the vodafone tax fuck up http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=hp_sauce&issue=1276 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=hp_sauce&issue=1276)
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Wonder what happens if you put one on your Johnson :shrug:
(http://www.sausagemania.com/images/tutorial/DSC_0677.jpg)
That's just bragging Mr Stallioni. mines definitely small and woolly :-[
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Protecting the vulnerable? Or guilty until proven innocent? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332843/Police-ban-suspected-wife-beaters-returning-home.html)
It used to be called conditional bail and enforced with remand in custody if breached.
Domestic violence is a massive problem with often years of non reports, retractions and so on.
Not really sure what the solution is but dedicated projects are the way to explore different proposals.
Yes, but punishment on the word of another is an interesting issue. I know domestic violence is an issue, but this just seems a little open to abuse.
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Which way to the beach? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11838248)
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Why charge him? Surely a bravery award is more appropriate :whistle:
http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2010/11/muskegon_man_charged_with_sodo.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2010/11/muskegon_man_charged_with_sodo.html)
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More on the vodafone tax fuck up http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=hp_sauce&issue=1276 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=hp_sauce&issue=1276)
I hope to share a beer with Mr Brooks in the not to distant future but from my understanding is that the reason we've cut a deal is some EU court ruling which basically meant we would lose; so rather than losing we cut a deal.
So basically we're stuffed because we have a shit, compelx tax system abd people can pay less elsewhere.
So basically no news what so ever but a good reason for people to go off on ill informed rants. (and if I'm right that includes Mr RB for whom I have a lot of respect and as mate of a mate I would not 'call' lightley) anyway I'm off down int he city Thursday so will try and get a proper view form someone who understands these things.
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Fast food Sloper style (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11875623).
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tents-to-be-banned-in-parliament-square-2148447.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tents-to-be-banned-in-parliament-square-2148447.html) :wank:
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If they don't sort out something with the students, etc. by then they've basically given everyone a free bank holiday to go and protest! Should make for some interesting footage for the royal wedding...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11887575 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11887575)
To be able to deal with seeing what's left of your legs and then have the presence of mind to do something about, just incredible. I am in awe.
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Shame not everyone else has the same presence of mind...
Hello, police? Yes someone's stolen my snowman (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-11908583) :wall: :wank: :'(
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Goverment to do away with scientific advise (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/05/government-scientific-advice-drugs-policy) (good blog-post (http://blog.sciencecampaign.org.uk/?p=2533))
:wall: :thumbsdown: :wall: :thumbsdown:
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Anyone else catch the radio 4 8am news broadcast this morning? Cracking spoonerism and attempted recovery by James Naughtie. Very funny indeed!
Think this is it, but can’t open youtube at work so can be sure.
A Very Naughtie Slip Of The Tongue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1G6osCnsbA&feature=youtu.be&a#ws)
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Heard about that on twitter, certainly a slip of the tongue in that YouTube clip :thumbsup:
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How could that be deemed a spoonerism though? I think he was clutching at straws there. A spoonerism is like "Betty Swallocks" or "Beeping Slag".
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Extended audio version with coughing :lol: (http://vakart.org.uk/download/james_naughtie.mp3)
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How could that be deemed a spoonerism though? I think he was clutching at straws there. A spoonerism is like "Betty Swallocks" or "Beeping Slag".
Freudian Slip?
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How could that be deemed a spoonerism though? I think he was clutching at straws there. A spoonerism is like "Betty Swallocks" or "Beeping Slag".
Only heard it the once, thought he said "Jeremy Cunt hulture secretary", or some combination to that effect.
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that would be a spoonerism then, although its not how I read a web report of it (guardian?), probably just sloppy reporting.
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Ah diddums!! Daily Fail journalist complains she can't afford to shop at Harrods anymore:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1335550/Merry-Christmas-Along-millions-middle-class-families-I-afford-one.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1335550/Merry-Christmas-Along-millions-middle-class-families-I-afford-one.html)
So detached from reality, she can't see that she's been doing something wrong if the only thing that can make her kids happy is expensive presents.
FUCK OFF!
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So how did this happen? Put simply, my partner and I started a new business four years ago, and we borrowed and borrowed and bought a country house alongside the two we owned between us in London.
We practically rebuilt it while I fussed over the kitchen, oohing and aahing over Farrow & Ball paint and butler sinks. We moved to the Cotswolds and I even bought another cottage as an ‘investment’.
When the recession hit, we realised the value of our properties had slumped and we were largely in negative equity. We had to rearrange our lives totally. These days, I am lucky if I earn £500 a week as a writer.
So you made some shit decisions and were greedy, blowing your money on expensive shit,and got your fingers very badly burned.
Only £500 a week, well cry me a fucking river. You could always get a proper job.
(and PS you look like a right hatchet faced bitch and those boots probably cost more tha everything I wear this week)
PPS I hate the fucking daily mail, twice this last week I have had middle aged women coming to me with scare mongering shit they have read in the DM. One was a report linking calpol to asthma and one was bathing children too much causing excema.
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Ann Widdecombe and the rise of Strictly Come Democracy
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-ann-widdecombe-and-the-rise-of-strictly-come-democracy-2152214.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-ann-widdecombe-and-the-rise-of-strictly-come-democracy-2152214.html)
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that would be a spoonerism then, although its not how I read a web report of it (guardian?), probably just sloppy reporting.
I always thought it was the Rev. Spooner not Dr, but then again sloppy subbing by the Gruniad? Who'd of thkun it?
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Good work CNN (click picture for story)...
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2010/12/06/cnn_grab.jpg) (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/06/cnn_outrage/)
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On a more disconcerting note FBI get their own staff reported to them for inciting violence (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/04/AR2010120403720.html) :wall:
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A story involving gross stupidity, dangerous criminal behaviour and The Broadfield (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11942814)
(OK, so it was a pub in Broadfield, not The Broadfield)
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Why is Outdoor Gear so Ugly?
While some of these shoes are genuinely great products, others are simply ludicrous. American brand Merrell seems to excel in the latter. The Chameleon3 Axiom Sport (with Ortholite Anatomical Footbed) reaches new heights of ugliness and spurious technicality. If Robocop ate nothing but All-Bran and tyres, this is what his turds would look like.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/nov/25/outdoor-gear-bad-science-ugly (http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/nov/25/outdoor-gear-bad-science-ugly)
Brilliant!
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A lot of truth there, but also a lot of shite.
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A story involving gross stupidity, dangerous criminal behaviour and The Broadfield (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11942814)
(OK, so it was a pub in Broadfield, not The Broadfield)
It may as well have been ...... One of the locals hs just been banned for writing death threats to the current management ::)
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Goverment to do away with scientific advise (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/05/government-scientific-advice-drugs-policy) (good blog-post (http://blog.sciencecampaign.org.uk/?p=2533))
:wall: :thumbsdown: :wall: :thumbsdown:
I had missed this, unbelievable, we are going backwards. :wank:
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Police, upstanding and considerate as always..
Jody McIntyre interview on BBC Breakfast News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku2sWnwe3CQ#ws)
Great interviewing skills there :wank:
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A story involving gross stupidity, dangerous criminal behaviour and The Broadfield (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11942814)
(OK, so it was a pub in Broadfield, not The Broadfield)
It may as well have been ...... One of the locals hs just been banned for writing death threats to the current management ::)
:thumbsup: Going for a drink there on Saturday evening if you're about.
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Why is Outdoor Gear so Ugly?
Haha he complains about a waterproof jacket costing £300 shortly after linking to a 'simple crew neck jumper' costing £280!
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Net closing gradually on Coulson......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/phone-hacking-sienna-miller-evidence (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/phone-hacking-sienna-miller-evidence)
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Have your children been finger-printed? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8202076/Europe-tells-Britain-to-justify-itself-over-fingerprinting-children-in-schools.html)
No parental permission required, no ability to challenge this in UK courts. :wank:
Very sly and dubious approach to building a database of finger-prints, but more subtly getting the next generation(s) used to such practices.
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absolute disgrace, evidence indeed of sleep walking into a surveillance state.
No legal rights, what if I chop yourbollocks off if you don't delete the files?
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Yeah, its fucking shocking isn't it (I don't have any kids to worry about, but would be doing the same as the parent in Scotland if I did)
A minister......talking sense......about drugs! :o (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12005824)
(As for the "Labour spokesman" fuck you, I'm part of the public and I don't hold your view you fucking dick (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,14812.msg291106.html#msg291106))
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Quite so, but why the fuck didn't they do anything about it during their 13 years in office?
Ohhh soryy I forgot they were afraid of the Daily Mail and Murdoch. :wank:
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What the fuck is Professor David Nutt on about? Not content with getting the legal status of cannabis in Holland wrong - it's decriminalised not legal - he then comes out with this pearl to throw before the assembled swine:
"In this country if you want to use cannabis you will inevitably get in contact with a dealer who will always be trying to push on you the harder drug [heroin]."
Ah, he is a former adviser to the government on drugs - that would explain it.
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Having been involved in drugs and crime research for the Home Office (Dr Bennet being the lead) I can say with some certainty that that's utter cock.
I think that some of the research was reported in home office circular 70 but I can't remember the year, probably about 2000.
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A minister......talking sense......about drugs! :o (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12005824)
(As for the "Labour spokesman" fuck you, I'm part of the public and I don't hold your view you fucking dick (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,14812.msg291106.html#msg291106))
Somewaht of a u-turn to what he was saying when Labour was in power.
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As the lib dems are finding out now it's easier to talk sense when you're not in office.
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Berlusconi is a cunt! #EUCO (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/tweet-wall-eu-berlusconi-insults) :lol:
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And in at 66 we have "Kunt & The Gang" with "Use my Arsehole as a Cunt (The Nick Clegg Story) " (http://www.theofficialcharts.com/singles-chart/#section3) :lol:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv1OigmYcvQ#)
Whilst in Eire they have a strong contender for the number one slot from the Rubberbandits stable Horse Outside (http://www.goldenplec.com/2010/12/13/rubberbandits-horse-attempting-christmas-1/)
Rubberbandits - Horse Outside (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8#ws)
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Yeah, its fucking shocking isn't it (I don't have any kids to worry about, but would be doing the same as the parent in Scotland if I did)
A minister......talking sense......about drugs! :o (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12005824)
(As for the "Labour spokesman" fuck you, I'm part of the public and I don't hold your view you fucking dick (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,14812.msg291106.html#msg291106))
So, Ainsworth is being irresponsible, whereas squandering billions of pounds worldwide on an unwinnable War on Drugs resulting in countless deaths, misery, crime and criminal empires is, of course, emminent good sense :wank:
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Mobile phone radiation linked to people jumping to conclusions (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2010/dec/20/mobile-phone-radiation-correlation) :lol:
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A story involving gross stupidity, dangerous criminal behaviour and The Broadfield (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11942814)
(OK, so it was a pub in Broadfield, not The Broadfield)
It may as well have been ...... One of the locals hs just been banned for writing death threats to the current management ::)
:thumbsup: Going for a drink there on Saturday evening if you're about.
Remind me to check this thread for future possible social engagements ......
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5km tailbacks at St Pancreas Station
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12041624 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12041624)
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You may now shoot the bride :o
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/groom-murders-bride-and-best-man-at-wedding-2165731.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/groom-murders-bride-and-best-man-at-wedding-2165731.html)
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You may now shoot the bride :o
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/groom-murders-bride-and-best-man-at-wedding-2165731.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/groom-murders-bride-and-best-man-at-wedding-2165731.html)
Clocked that earlier, my initial suspicion is that the bride and best man were having an affair.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/20/pope-catholic-church-child-abuse-scandal (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/20/pope-catholic-church-child-abuse-scandal)
"Returning to a theme he had discussed in the past, Benedict said the modern world's moral relativism was at fault. "In the 1970s, paedophilia was seen as a natural thing for men and children," he said, arguing that the Catholic church had the task of taking on and defeating relativism."
Speak for yourself you balcony-bothering freak :furious:
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Unbelievable. Even if that wasn't complete fucking nonsense then what's his excuse for all the pre 1970s abuse by priests?
:wank:
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"In the 1970s, paedophilia was seen as a natural thing for men and children,"
What the fuck is this bullshit? Seen as natural by who, Ian Brady? Kiddyfiddling isn't like smoking, that was cool a few decades ago but had now gone out of fashion. Fucking idiot.
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I think it's fucking disgraceful that he doesn't have the decency to punctuate his speeches with the word 'wibble', just so that we know he's a complete loony. Sure as fuck, he ain't one of these - :ang: - but he may well be the :guilty: incarnate.....
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Then again, perhaps something was lost in translation. Tell us more, oh man with funny hat, of life on your planet :-\
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The guys a fucking twat.
Just like this guy who's ironically about to spend his 10th xmas at her majesties leisure (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12047686) :lol:
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You may now shoot the bride :o
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/groom-murders-bride-and-best-man-at-wedding-2165731.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/groom-murders-bride-and-best-man-at-wedding-2165731.html)
Clocked that earlier, my initial suspicion is that the bride and best man were having an affair.
Blimey I hadn't thought of that... ;)
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I suspect Vince Cables for the chop (pardon the pun..)
(not that I want to see him go but I think his role may be untenable if this is true...)
"Vince Cable: I have declared war on Rupert Murdoch
Business secretary's unguarded comment to undercover Daily Telegraph reporters plunges coalition government into crisis"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/21/vince-cable-rupert-murdoch (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/21/vince-cable-rupert-murdoch)
Interesting the Torygraph decided not to publish this revelation...
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My powers of deductive reasoning know no bounds! :P
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I suspect Vince Cables for the chop (pardon the pun..)
Good, he's a vain, ignorant, loudmouth buffoon who's been shooting his mouth off without any responsibility for his actions for years.
Economic/business guru my arse.
Get rid....
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Economic/business guru my arse.
Do you have some inside gossip from Shell?
:o
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No, no insider knowledge other than he is sometimes presented as 'ex Chief Economist Shell' when he held a relatively insignificant role as an Economics advisor in the trading division (I think..) but that's public anyway. He's only where he is because he called Brown Mr Bean and then made a few ridiculous proclamations during the financial crisis that made people feel better about themselves. <Can you tell I'm not a big fan :) >
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No, no insider knowledge other than he is sometimes presented as 'ex Chief Economist Shell' when he held a relatively insignificant role as an Economics advisor in the trading division (I think..) but that's public anyway. He's only where he is because he called Brown Mr Bean and then made a few ridiculous proclamations during the financial crisis that made people feel better about themselves. <Can you tell I'm not a big fan :) >
I'm only a fan because I'm a leftie, and I think he's about the most left leaning member of the govt. As such I like to think he's some sort of socialist mole who's secretly trying to stick it up the Torys.
Having heard what he said to the undercover Telegraph reporters thats exactly what he seemed to be doing! ;D
My money would be on a coalition split happening after the voting system referendum in May.. whatever the result.. I'm not sure whether thats a good or bad thing.. just saying..
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I don't have a problem with left leaning economists (Woolf & Kay from the daily pinksheet for example) who hold a position and argue coherently. My problem with Cable is his vanity, flip-flopping, monstrous ego, collie like bandwagon chasing and inflated sense of self importance. The man is a dick and an arrogant one at that.
>As such I like to think he's some sort of socialist mole who's secretly trying to stick it up the Torys.
Great. I bet he wears Homer Simpson socks to cabinet meetings - the rebel!
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Indeed, the foresight, calling bubble after 8 years . . .
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Lost in the snow....for three fucking days :lol: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-12082905)
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:lol:
Somebody needs to make a google map gizmo tracking the grand voyage
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I never knew there is a Pub Minister :shrug: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12097227)
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Lost in the snow....for three fucking days :lol: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-12082905)
Unbelievable. You can do JoG2LE in that time.
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It's all true!
Because I read it in The Daily Mail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI#ws)
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Rather alarming to think this guy is in charge of more aircraft than the newly resized RAF http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8236340/USS-Enterprise-captain-in-sex-video-investigation.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8236340/USS-Enterprise-captain-in-sex-video-investigation.html)
:jaw:
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Just clocked this mentioned on another forum...
(http://img3.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/cache/64939__468x_cheaters-never-prosper-xray.jpg)
...and he survived (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/03/22/cheaters-brain-stabbed-in-wallhack-brawl/) :o
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Read about this earlier but didn't get round to posting.
Now blogged about with a legal angle included.
Convicted for encouraging people not to break the law!!! (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/01/police-officer-thompson-speed)
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MMR autism study was fraudulent (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html)
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MMR autism study was fraudulent (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html)
Official line, full text available for free at the BMJ (http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full)
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On a lighter note....
KickAss - Life imitates art (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Article/201009115882064) :lol:
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Some novel 'Apprentice' merchandise...
(http://thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/sugar-sex-toy1.jpg)
http://thepoke.co.uk/index.php/2011/01/06/lord-sugar-launches-sex-toy/ (http://thepoke.co.uk/index.php/2011/01/06/lord-sugar-launches-sex-toy/)
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MMR autism study was fraudulent (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html)
Is this new, I thought it was dismissed as fraudulent bunkum a while back?
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MMR autism study was fraudulent (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html)
Is this new, I thought it was dismissed as fraudulent bunkum a while back?
The BMJ article is...
[In] the first part of a special BMJ series, Brian Deer exposes the bogus data behind claims that launched a worldwide scare over the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine, and reveals how the appearance of a link with autism was manufactured at a London medical school
Basically a very detailed analysis of exactly why it was fraudulent bunkum.
Given the huge amount of media coverage the original paper got, the confusion it caused to parents and the public health problems that ensued (increased rates of diseases) this should have got as much exposure as the original but when it was first exposed as problematic it didn't and neither is this (but obviously won't, at present its only the Torygraph covering it, as its not "sensationalist" enough).
Reading the BMJ article it is very interesting to see the lengths they went to support their claim/view/theory on a link (which was underpinned by a lawsuit that those involved were involved with to sue the vaccine company). Utter fucking shite research :wank:
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NEXT!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/05/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-editor-suspended (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/05/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-editor-suspended)
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NEXT!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/05/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-editor-suspended (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/05/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-editor-suspended)
Rupert Murdoch has said that he would 'vigorously pursue the truth' about the News of the World phone-hacking scandal.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Does he even know the meaning of the word "truth"?
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Course he does, he just likes to keep it to himself rather than broadcast it.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Does he even know the meaning of the word "truth"?
Of course - the truth is whatever enters his mind and he decides to disseminate through his media empire.
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How long is it going to take for the fucking penny to drop?:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/26/AR2010122600610.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/26/AR2010122600610.html)
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Forever unfortunately.
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Not sure which thread this should go in but it made me laugh.
http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ (http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/)
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Not sure which thread this should go in but it made me laugh.
http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ (http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/)
Ultimate Internet thread (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,13301.0.html) perhaps? Its not exactly news (nor is Sugars finger)
(Think it was posted on some thread on here a while back, but its rather amusing so no harm done)
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There's mould in my transporter (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/07/star_trek_flat/) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Everybody's favourite Dubai resident in the news again!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12135540 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12135540)
(Dean Park, "who plays Nurse Poltis" must be an early contender for "thickest point-missing ignorant twat of the year", surely?)
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I was sure that I'd posted this already, but anyway
It takes some balls to do this (http://www.thestar.co.uk/headlines/Man-maimed-himself-in-DIY.6679949.jp) sort of shit
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Pay up!
(http://bit.ly/dSysER)
Or the dog gets it! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/reconvilier-switzerland-t_n_806811.html?ref=tw)
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How to pick your data sample to confirm your hypothesis (http://www.reghardware.com/2011/01/11/excessive_tv_computer_games_heart_disease_concerns/) :lol:
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Everybody's favourite Dubai resident in the news again!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12135540 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12135540)
(Dean Park, "who plays Nurse Poltis" must be an early contender for "thickest point-missing ignorant twat of the year", surely?)
We have no desire to be the villains of the pantomime
Which is good, becuase they probably missed the auditions.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/01/11/3110493.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/01/11/3110493.htm)
Extraordinary amateur footage of one of the flash floods that hit Queensland yesterday. That's how you empty a car park!!
The weather system that's causing this is so massive that even where I am, well over 1000 miles south of Brisbane, we have had nearly 80mm of rain in the last couple of days with temperatures staying in the mid-high 20s the whole time!! Some parts of Victoria started getting flash floods last night after receiving 90-120mm of rain yesterday and I'll be watching the creek behind my house pretty closely for the next couple of days as we are expecting thunderstorms and extensive areas of rain all the way to the weekend.
Hard to believe that two years ago we were in a massive heatwave that triggered the most lethal bushfires ever seen.
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The guy with the silver landcruiser has balls of steel......
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The guy with the silver landcruiser has balls of steel......
He's up to his knees in a raging torrent.
There are cars being pushed towards him.
Why is he bothering with the fooking umbrella?
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Don't you think they were driving a bit fast given all the standing water? Tut tut.
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P.s. land cruisers are invincible.
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OK, I'm sitting in my office looking out into deep gloom (it's 9AM on a mid-summer morning!) and torrential rain but it is still warm enough to be t-shirt weather!! They've issued a flood watch for the local creek so I may have to go and collect the cats and evacuate them to my parents place for safety later this morning.
I'm hearing that it has been even heavier out around Mt Arapiles and the Grampians with Natimuk expecting heavy flooding today (just heard a Natimuk resident on the radio describing the scene.)
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Poor bastard.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland12166442 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12166442)
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Article about fun and games my brother and other had trying to go skiing on boxing day.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-12157763 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-12157763)
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Kenneth Tong : Absolutely amazingly outrageous (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/promoting-anorexia-an-int_b_807807.html)
This guy needs locking up for his own safety as much as anything else, fucking dick. :wank:
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Christ alive - what an odious little man - he's like a character from a Brett Easton Ellis novel.
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Only with less charm
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Kenneth Tong : Absolutely amazingly outrageous (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/promoting-anorexia-an-int_b_807807.html)
This guy needs locking up for his own safety as much as anything else, fucking dick. :wank:
This shitstorm passed me by on Twitter until the "confession". What a cunt.
Christ alive - what an odious little man - he's like a character from a Brett Easton Ellis novel.
:agree:
He's like a really crap Patrick Bateman.
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He's like a really crap Patrick Bateman.
Monolith?
(http://ukbouldering.com/board/userAvatars/avatar_667_1263048961.png)
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Pissed birds (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/12170571) ;D
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Insert pun here.... (http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/8785494.BROCKLEY__Armed_robber_Elton_John_convicted_after_string_of_hits/)
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Obi Wan is Lost... just posted this on twitter. Gove talking education with a caller on the radio. The fucking prick makes my blood boil.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12171281 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12171281)
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Good effort to the caller. It's hard to be so clear and coherent when you're as angry as he obviously was. A quote from someone who works with my better half, who has had lots of direct dealings with Gove is that his view of good education is "children sitting in a classroom silently listening to a teacher talk and memorising pieces of information." She also said that no matter how much he is lobbied he can't conceive of anything other than his own narrow experience of education, and has absolutely no concept of the realities of education for the majority of people.
Frightening.
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Good effort to the caller. It's hard to be so clear and coherent when you're as angry as he obviously was. A quote from someone who works with my better half, who has had lots of direct dealings with Gove is that his view of good education is "children sitting in a classroom silently listening to a teacher talk and memorising pieces of information." She also said that no matter how much he is lobbied he can't conceive of anything other than his own narrow experience of education, and has absolutely no concept of the realities of education for the majority of people.
Frightening.
Two brained, halfwitted fucktard would be how I describe him. Cock. Great link btw Cofe..
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What a patronising and hypocritical cunt, it was Gove who started interrupting the other caller. :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank:
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How the fuck do idiots like him get to run our country! Arrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!! :wall:
What the fuck has a multiplication table ever done for anybody? He doesn't even understand the subjects he's trying to champion!
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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ses-orders-residents-out-as-lake-bursts-20110114-19q3o.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ses-orders-residents-out-as-lake-bursts-20110114-19q3o.html)
Victoria is now copping the remnants (ahem) of the system that has caused all the trouble in Queensland. The ephemeral creek behind my house is now a raging torrent 3 metres deep and 50 metres wide!! It's not really threatening the bank at the end of my garden but just in case, has anybody got some spare sandbags they can send me? :please:
I'll try and post a pic from our place this evening.
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I can send you some sandbags :)
Hang in there. Luckily Townsville seems to have avoided the worst of it, so family are OK.
Some people got a whole lot of shit to deal with though.
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Guinea Pig raid (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/12/guinea_pig_farm/) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What a waste of money.
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I can send you some sandbags :)
I suspect a couple of visits to Frog Buttress back in the 80s and a couple of years getting out and about with Sloper means I've had quite enough of the kind of sandbag you're thinking of!!
Hang in there. Luckily Townsville seems to have avoided the worst of it, so family are OK.
Some people got a whole lot of shit to deal with though.
Yep, we're OK here. The creek has been holding it's own since mid-morning - it was still at the same height a couple of minutes ago when I had a last look before dark. Rain stopped around lunchtime so it should start dropping overnight. Some areas of Western Victoria have had a rough day (over 250mm of rain in 2 days) including around Arapiles and the Grampians but it is pretty trifling compared to southern & central Queensland.
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Maybe there will be enough rain to wash the chalk off Tannin. Doubt it though, need a year of rain for that.
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Shome mishtake shurely?! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/14/berlusconi-investigated-teenage-prostitution-case)
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FAIL (http://primlystable.blogspot.com/2011/01/mail-give-children-vaccine-that-we-said.html)
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Hospital redefines 'helping hand' (http://www.china.org.cn/living_in_china/news/2008-11/25/content_16821668.htm)
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Italy
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/14/article-1347109-0CC1F2B2000005DC-293_468x767.jpg)
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/assets_c/2010/11/silvio-berlusconi-adjusting-tie-thumb-200x162.jpg)
England
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q8_F2nxmhLY/R6N_ySL7bQI/AAAAAAAABIg/m3ngjvoseHc/s400/edwina_currie.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01449/john-major_1449341c.jpg)
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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/river-rescue-as-sex-toy-ditches-rider-20110117-19sra.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/river-rescue-as-sex-toy-ditches-rider-20110117-19sra.html)
It's sort of ;D but wtf were they thinking really?
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Ok ok. It's The Fail AGAIN but this time it's REALLY bad:
http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html)
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WAR - HUH - YEAH - what is it good for....oh business (http://http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ike-was-right-all-along-the-danger-of-the-militaryindustrial-complex-2186133.html)
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Ok ok. It's The Fail AGAIN but this time it's REALLY bad:
http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html)
Liz Jones is a complete and utter cuntress.
On a slightly lighter note I know we aren't meant to laugh at national stereo types anymore but I was much amused by an article listing the most popular iPhone app by country. In UK, US, France, Canada, Italy, Korea, Aus and even China the most popular app was some sort of game whilst Japan favoured an, equally trivial, future and romance predicting app. The most popular app in Germany, however, is one which "Once users have scanned the barcode of a food product this app provides them with information about that product, such as fat content, and also allows users to compare prices with similar products in other outlets. The app is capable of comparing the serial numbers of eggs to those listed as contaminated in the recent dioxin scare in Germany."
Those crazy German bastards, they certainly like to let their hair down.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/weekly-international-iphone-apps-seasonal-angry-birds-bubble-ball-barcoo-2181227.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/weekly-international-iphone-apps-seasonal-angry-birds-bubble-ball-barcoo-2181227.html)
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Stand, and deliver what you believe in!
And don't be afraid if you get ridiculed about it...
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/adam-ant-0117-2011/ (http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/adam-ant-0117-2011/)
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A man for whom the word "irony" means "a bit like iron"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/news/2011/01/17/nick-knowles-says-he-has-taken-a-huge-pay-cut-as-the-bbc-slashes-wages-115875-22854637/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/news/2011/01/17/nick-knowles-says-he-has-taken-a-huge-pay-cut-as-the-bbc-slashes-wages-115875-22854637/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
The DIY SOS star volunteered himself for a cut but vowed the quality of his shows would not change.
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Ok ok. It's The Fail AGAIN but this time it's REALLY bad:
http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html)
The Daily Mash picked up the story from the other angle..... http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/opinion/columnists/is-lovely-liz-becoming-just-another-thumbnail-on-the-daily-mail-website?-201101173437/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/opinion/columnists/is-lovely-liz-becoming-just-another-thumbnail-on-the-daily-mail-website?-201101173437/)
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Stand, and deliver what you believe in!
And don't be afraid if you get ridiculed about it...
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/adam-ant-0117-2011/ (http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/adam-ant-0117-2011/)
“I mean, I knew Michael Jackson, Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross. These are people who they respect.”
Unlikley the average ned has even heard of them, let alone respects them.
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The Iraq Enquiry.
(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/cal1.jpg)
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/74430767.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D05D0CFA18F7EAB42ADCC5F6E1DB80C66C749D8359B7B207E2)
Nah....
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/19/3116145.htm?section=justin (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/19/3116145.htm?section=justin)
Doh!
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Chav Scum In Scrap Metal Shocker (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/66000-volt-shock-thief-ran.6692596.jp)
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As if there wasn't already good reason to boycott BT:
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/01/19/call-to-boycott-bt-over-israeli-settlements-deal/ (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/01/19/call-to-boycott-bt-over-israeli-settlements-deal/)
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As if there wasn't already good reason to boycott BT:
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/01/19/call-to-boycott-bt-over-israeli-settlements-deal/ (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/01/19/call-to-boycott-bt-over-israeli-settlements-deal/)
Have you got that in Ivrit because it makes bugger all sense in English?
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Actually, you're right. I should read things more carefully sometimes! :guilty:
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Man flu is real
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=155894594 (http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=155894594)
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“With Berlusconi, the rules from any other place or government don’t apply,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/world/europe/19italy.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/world/europe/19italy.html)
Sitting against a backdrop of family photos and a small statuette of a bucking horse, Mr. Berlusconi added that his parties were all conducted with “the most absolute elegance, decorum and calm.”
:lol:
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The problem with Berlusconi is that whatever outrageous scandal he is reported to have perpetrated it'll always be received by some with a brief pause and an expression of "lad".
On his wikipedia page the largest section, by some margin, is that concerning "Controversies" :lol:
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1c = 1.62c (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/111756/when-it-comes-to-the-penny-washington-makes-no-sense)
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1c = 1.62c (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/111756/when-it-comes-to-the-penny-washington-makes-no-sense)
All they need to do is make their 1c larger, that way there'll be more copper and value in them :P
When I was in Oz a few years back I found that there was no such thing as 1 or 2 cents, everything was rounded to the nearest 5 cents.
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The Age newspaper in Melbourne runs a little piece each day called the Odd Spot. Today's is definitely woth a read!
Friday January 21, 2011
Burglars snorted the cremated remains of a man and two dogs after becoming convinced they had stolen illegal drugs. The men had broken into a Miami home and stolen two urns and electrical gear. The burglars confessed their mistake to police when arrested.
;D
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When I was in Oz a few years back I found that there was no such thing as 1 or 2 cents, everything was rounded to the nearest 5 cents.
Many shops in the states have a bowl full of pennies by the cashier so you can take or leave a few if needed when paying. Up until Eurofication you never saw low value coins in loads of European countries because they had been scrapped. Like we scrapped the half penny.
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Especially in Italy where the lowest value coin was the 1,000,000,000 lire piece (which was worth approximately 2p). #usefulfacts
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/dubai-fears-end-of-the-world-as-top-resort-falling-into-sea-2505482.html)
The owner of the company that bought Ireland for €28m in 2009, John O'Dolan, killed himself; while the man who bought Britain for €51m, Safi Qurashi, is serving seven years in jail in Dubai for non-payment of cheques.
My sides!
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the sands are eroding and the navigational channels between the islands are silting up
What did they think was going to happen. Fuck with nature and nature fucks with you.
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the sands are eroding and the navigational channels between the islands are silting up
What did they think was going to happen. Fuck with nature and nature fucks with you.
Dont tell the Dutch that! I think they've got more real estate to loose!
Hmm. Interesting this one (from a semi professional viewpoint..). I saw a report and later a TV program about the Palm's construction (not the world) and they went to some length to prevent subsidence, erosion and siltation. They carried out some quite interesting modelling and re-designed the breakwaters around the palm to both prevent erosion and maintain a good flow through the navigation channel. Islands start as f*ck off big mounds of large rocks then have sand squirted on top. Looked like quite a well thought out job to me (though that could just be the presentation shizzle).
I know nothing about the 'world' island complex but wonder if it was done on the cheap... in the wake of the palms success...
Either way its a great story and a superb metaphor for what might happen following all the distateful largesse occuring there...
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Looks like Coulson's about to jump before he's pushed..... ;D
EDIT - He has! :great:
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/what-gives?-asks-tony-the-prick-201101213459/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/what-gives?-asks-tony-the-prick-201101213459/)
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Looks like Coulson's about to jump before he's pushed..... ;D
EDIT - He has! :great:
Now the attention turns to Cameron. How much did HE know - and when...
Coulson could (of course) be in all sorts of trouble now for contempt of court etc.. if (as suspected) he DID know...
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Looks like Coulson's about to jump before he's pushed..... ;D
EDIT - He has! :great:
Now the attention turns to Cameron. How much did HE know - and when...
Coulson could (of course) be in all sorts of trouble now for contempt of court etc.. if (as suspected) he DID know...
:agree:
This story could have a long way to go, despite having rumbled on for months and months already. :great:
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From http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/21/andy-coulson-phone-hacking-statement (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/21/andy-coulson-phone-hacking-statement)
1.37pm: My colleague on the media desk, James Robinson, has just rung up Ian Edmonson – he's the senior News of the World executive who was suspended last month over the phone-hacking allegations. We've heard rumours that he has resigned, too. Here's a transcript of the conversation. Make of it what you will.
IE: "Hello."
JR: "Is this Ian Edmonson?"
IE: "Who is this?"
JR: "It's James Robinson from the Guardian."
IE: "Have you got [News of the World press officer] Hayley Barlow's number?"
JR: "Have you resigned, Ian?"
(silence)
JR: "Can you tell me off the record if you've resigned?"
(silence)
JR: Are you still there, Ian?
(silence)
JR: "You're not taping this call, are you?"
Edmonson hangs up.
:lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Brilliant!
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Now the attention turns to Cameron. How much did HE know - and when...
Coulson could (of course) be in all sorts of trouble now for contempt of court etc.. if (as suspected) he DID know...
Come off it. It's not if and when the Tories knew, it's how much of it they could / can keep a lid on.
Coulson (and by default Cameron) was hoping (and probably frantically trying to engineer it so that) someone would take the fall for him but when he found out that Edmonson was going to tell the truth and drop him in it he had to take action to distance himself from Cameron as quickly as possible. Hence the resignation.
This story could have a long way to go, despite having rumbled on for months and months already. :great:
Yeah and well done to the Guardian for being the only msn paper to keep the story going (in this country). Shame on the rest.
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This is good. The list of questions that need answering:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100072966/andy-coulson-should-never-have-been-appointed-in-the-first-place/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100072966/andy-coulson-should-never-have-been-appointed-in-the-first-place/)
Tasty!
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This is good. The list of questions that need answering:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100072966/andy-coulson-should-never-have-been-appointed-in-the-first-place/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100072966/andy-coulson-should-never-have-been-appointed-in-the-first-place/)
Tasty!
Ah yes - from the Telegraph. That bastion of journalistic morality - whose female reporters pretented to be constituients to get information from Vince Cable....
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... when he found out that Edmonson was going to tell the truth and drop him in it he had to take action to distance himself from Cameron as quickly as possible. Hence the resignation.
That's the way I see it, sooner or later there's going to be more to come out about this one, its going to be very interesting to see how it all plays out. The story and resulting fall out runs right through some of the largest/more powerful institutions of the country: Police, Government, Murdoch/News Corp; not necessarily in that order.
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Ah yes - from the Telegraph. That bastion of journalistic morality - whose female reporters pretented to be constituients to get information from Vince Cable....
Indeed, but all the more interesting to see a Torygraph blogger bashing the Tories.
I wonder what Sloper's take is on this. ;)
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I wonder what Sloper's take is on this. ;)
Hang on, I'll just check his voicemail and see ;D
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Edmonson "I'm no grass! I'll sue you!":
(http://a.yfrog.com/img615/5341/b23ra.jpg)
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Good fucking luck, its been all over twitter half of today!
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Hampstead Heath "Tsunami" could kill thousands. (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23916190-london-heath-flooding-could-kill-thousands-experts-warn.do)
Yeah I thought it was going to be a Daily Mash article too.....
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Ok ok. It's The Fail AGAIN but this time it's REALLY bad:
http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/liz-jones-murder-disappointing-bars-and.html)
This is priceless:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/opinion/columnists/is-lovely-liz-becoming-just-another-thumbnail-on-the-daily-mail-website?-201101173437/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/opinion/columnists/is-lovely-liz-becoming-just-another-thumbnail-on-the-daily-mail-website?-201101173437/)
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/coulson-%27knew-he-was-going-to-resign%27-claims-guardian-201101213460/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/coulson-%27knew-he-was-going-to-resign%27-claims-guardian-201101213460/)
Given the material then not the best the mash could have come up with.
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And from one total cunt........to another!
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=eye_tv&issue=1280 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=eye_tv&issue=1280)
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And from one total cunt........to another!
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=eye_tv&issue=1280 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=eye_tv&issue=1280)
;D "By way of comparison, this is some 200,000 fewer than watch Kerry Katona: The Next Chapter on ITV2"
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Any Band of Brothers fans might be interested to know that Major Winters has died aged 92. A short interview with his biographer on the BBC website here:
BBC News - Today - Remembering 'selfless' Dick Winters (http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9362000/9362723.stm#id9360000/9362700/9362723-audio)
Unsurprisingly his biography is sold out on Amazon!
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Did we miss this one?
Three hearty cheers for the EDL say I!
By following the ancient tradition of masturbating over pictures of kids while smoking crack cocaine
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/471527.html (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/471527.html)
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And from one total cunt........to another!
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=eye_tv&issue=1280 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=eye_tv&issue=1280)
;D "By way of comparison, this is some 200,000 fewer than watch Kerry Katona: The Next Chapter on ITV2"
AOTA - have I mentioned GrumpyCrumpy and I have finished the Eye xword. Again. That's every one for about the last eight issues. (Except the Christmas one)
<smug>
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Did we miss this one?
Three hearty cheers for the EDL say I!
Defending English culture by following the ancient tradition of masturbating over pictures of kids while smoking crack cocaine
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/471527.html (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/471527.html)
Edit to make it make sense
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Do you think it might actually be possible one day for the whole of Rothermere Towers to implode under its own odious self-righteous wrong-headed and utterly repellent rhetoric?
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2011/01/melanie-phillips-and-gay-agenda.html (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2011/01/melanie-phillips-and-gay-agenda.html)
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Dumb Britons Abroad (http://www.reghardware.com/2011/01/25/satnav_directs_couple_into_church/) :lol:
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Damn you slackers - was then about to post that under the strap line "Satanic Sat-Nav?" >:(
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:-*
One lucky lady (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12272854)
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Hampstead Heath "Tsunami" could kill thousands. (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23916190-london-heath-flooding-could-kill-thousands-experts-warn.do)
Yeah I thought it was going to be a Daily Mash article too.....
Heath superintendent Simon Lee said:
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Perhaps the NHS should consider providing this service for health and wellbeing (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brothels-take-caring-approach-to-sex-and-the-senior-citizen-2192499.html) :P
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Ignorance of the law isn't a defence for breaking it, but surely the law and its scope should be defined even if people choose to ignore it (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/25/ignorance_of_scottish_pr0n_law_no_defence/)?
We do not publicly disclose our prosecution policy in relation to specific offences as to do so may allow offenders to adapt or restrict their behaviour to conduct which falls short of our prosecution threshold.
:wall:
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Ingenious method for energy saving at swimming pool (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/25/crematorium_plan/).
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Sounds like a dead good idea to me.
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Express dope delivery (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/27/catapult_interdiction/) ;D
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For some odd reason; this story doesn't appear to be in the Daily Mail.
Funny. Muslims and Gays in the same sentence - you'd've thought it would be right up their street...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8289477/Three-men-in-court-charged-with-stirring-up-hatred-of-homosexuals.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8289477/Three-men-in-court-charged-with-stirring-up-hatred-of-homosexuals.html)
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Good job only covers "talking about babies and holidays", eh?
And not. For example. Dicking about on the internet all the livelong fucking day
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12307749 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12307749)
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Express dope delivery (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/27/catapult_interdiction/) ;D
Except that's a trebuchet, not a catapult
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12303784 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12303784)
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Doonesbury has been right on of late. From this strip (http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/archive/2011/01/24) to the one dated the 29th Jan.
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Looks like Wikileaks has changed over to the Torygraph from the Grauniad...
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A bit old but its the first time I've come across it....
Reads like something out of Saw (only not quite so grotesque) (http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2011/02/features/collar-bomb?page=all)
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"Public Service" Broadcasting's finest in action...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12338053 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12338053)
"Mexican cars are just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight, leaning against a fence asleep looking at a cactus with a blanket with a hole in the middle on as a coat."
described Mexican food as "refried sick".
confident he would not receive any complaints about their comments because the Mexican ambassador would be asleep.
oops!
However, the ambassador (was awake, and) did complain, and demanded an apology from the BBC.
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Just when the state of Queensland thought it was safe, along comes a category 5 cyclone!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/02/3127394.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/02/3127394.htm)
This is basically hitting all the bits of the coast which didn't cop the flooding in January.
We had a weird day in Victoria yesterday, their were major flood warnings on our northern rivers at the same time as a roaring north-west wind brought 40 degree temperatures and a Total Fire Ban! :shrug:
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Some fucking irony :wank: (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/01/big-society-lord-wei-volunteering)
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I've just worked out why Sloper fucked off. He realised that even he couldn't spin the total fuck up the Tories are making of absolutely everything.
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I've just worked out why Sloper fucked off. He realised that even he couldn't spin the total fuck up the ConDems are making of absolutely everything.
He read(s) the Guardian - I think he's just outed himself and realised he's actually a closet socialist and can't face the truth! ;D
The press are being very gentle with the new regime.. Give it a couple of years, the honeymoon will be over and this sort of thing will start to hang the coallition. The articles quite interesting - the fella really does face the issue of not having enough time or money to do all this voluntary work! You'd be OK Cam, SamCam's trust fund'd pick up the shortfall..
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That's the irony. The only people in a position to work for nothing are those suggesting this ridiculous plan.
Other unpaid coalition advisers include Lord Heseltine and the "digital champion" Martha Lane Fox – both millionaires.
:wall:
I've just worked out why Sloper fucked off. He realised that even he couldn't spin the total fuck up the ConDems are making of absolutely everything.
Let's be honest. This is not a coalition in anything other than name, it's a Tory government dragging a few Lib Dem politicians along with it like a depressed child on a shopping trip. I'm not sure how much more of it they'll take before the "coalition" disintegrates.
The governments Big Ideas are really unravelling now, quite quickly too. I read an interview with (the venerable) Denis Healy at the weekend and when asked how long the coalition will last he replied that it won't survive the year. He may be right.
Wouldn't be surprised.
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Let's be honest. This is not a coalition in anything other than name, it's a Tory government dragging a few Lib Dem politicians along with it like a depressed child on a shopping trip. I'm not sure how much more of it they'll take before the "coalition" disintegrates.
In general I'd agree with you there... Vince frequently has the same expression I have when I'm told that "we're going to go to Ikea"...
except that Liberal 'head boy' Nick 'I wasnt lying about tuition fees even though I was' Clegg seems to think its a complete consumated coalition with Condom face :shag:
(sorry about the Clegg demi-rant, I just heard his decietful tones on R5 and it made me cross >:( )
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Dear Tony, everyone already thinks you're a cunt, you can stop trying to ram the message home now....
http://www.chickyog.net/2011/02/02/blood-n-guts-blair-wades-in-again/ (http://www.chickyog.net/2011/02/02/blood-n-guts-blair-wades-in-again/)
As someone pointed out, he's never been bothered before about a million people protesting on the streets so why start now?
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-braced-for-giant-cyclone-2201887.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-braced-for-giant-cyclone-2201887.html)
This is really kicking off now. Just had an e-mail from an old work colleague (amazingly, his wireless connection is still working) currently sitting in an evacuation centre near Cairns and he reckons they've already had gusts over 160 kmh and the noise inside the centre is so loud you cannot here somebody shouting at you from 2m away!
In a moment of madness this evening I've agreed to join my boss in volunteering to go up in the next few days to help with relief work if the call goes out. Spare a thought for all of them up there, I suspect it's going to be a truly harrowing night.
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It sounds bloody awful. Good luck to em all.
Just seen this interesting piece about Murdoch which is well worth a read:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/01/rupert_murdoch_-_a_portrait_of.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/01/rupert_murdoch_-_a_portrait_of.html)
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Kepler planetary system (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/news/new_planetary_system.html) 8)
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Wow. that looks incredible.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-braced-for-giant-cyclone-2201887.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-braced-for-giant-cyclone-2201887.html)
This is really kicking off now. Just had an e-mail from an old work colleague (amazingly, his wireless connection is still working) currently sitting in an evacuation centre near Cairns and he reckons they've already had gusts over 160 kmh and the noise inside the centre is so loud you cannot here somebody shouting at you from 2m away!
In a moment of madness this evening I've agreed to join my boss in volunteering to go up in the next few days to help with relief work if the call goes out. Spare a thought for all of them up there, I suspect it's going to be a truly harrowing night.
Got an email from brother and family in Townsville. They moved out of their house, and stayed with friends who had a safe cellar. Said the noise was just incredible, like nothing else. (The kids slept through it all!) Luckily their house suffered minimal damage, just a flooded pool and some broken trees.
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He would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky meddling kids:
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news?articleid=6697886 (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news?articleid=6697886)
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:lol:
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That was my Primary School, back in't day.
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(http://i55.tinypic.com/wgos3t.jpg)
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Sounds like a good finishing school there.
This gives a whole new meaning to "Platform Games" (http://www.reghardware.com/2011/02/04/boy_walks_off_platform_while_playing_psp/) :lol: (thankfully no one was seriously hurt).
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Quick reactions by the off duty rozzer there. Lucky kid.
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Be careful if you need to let some gas out in Malawi (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12363852)
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Be careful if you need to let some gas out in Malawi (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12363852)
When asked whether it could be enforced, he said it would be similar to laws banning urinating in public.
I think he's taking the piss.
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Be careful if you need to let some gas out in Malawi (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12363852)
That story blew me away. Wait until other countries get wind of it, they'll be cracking out some new laws then.
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Oh for goodness sake, not this guff again. The thread about the cow kicked up a hell of a stink.
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Twenty reasons why it's kicking off everywhere. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2011/02/twenty_reasons_why_its_kicking.html)
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Twenty reasons why it's kicking off everywhere. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2011/02/twenty_reasons_why_its_kicking.html)
A typically thought provoking piece from Mason, one of the few BBC journalists still worth listening to. As one of the comments avers, how will the political establishment react to this effective loss of power? I think that overall, the coalition govt's manipulation of the news cycle has been woeful. Too slow, to heavy-handed, too predictable and challengeable. Only time will tell..... :-\
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Twenty reasons why it's kicking off everywhere. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2011/02/twenty_reasons_why_its_kicking.html)
I read a write-up somewhere after the student protests/kettling in London detailing that police forces around the country are slowly but surely being armed/trained with heavier "crowd control" equipment/tactics, can't for the life of me find it again, but was rather worrying.
Work on an advisory panel to the government? Déjà vu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/07/david-richards-health-adviser-sacked).
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I read a write-up somewhere after the student protests/kettling in London detailing that police forces around the country are slowly but surely being armed/trained with heavier "crowd control" equipment/tactics, can't for the life of me find it again, but was rather worrying.
Was it this (http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n1/htdocs/caam-on-you-faggot-cunts-664.php)?
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I read a write-up somewhere after the student protests/kettling in London detailing that police forces around the country are slowly but surely being armed/trained with heavier "crowd control" equipment/tactics, can't for the life of me find it again, but was rather worrying.
Was it this (http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n1/htdocs/caam-on-you-faggot-cunts-664.php)?
Thats the one cheers....
All across the country, law-enforcement agencies are buying weapons systems used in Afghanistan, including Heckler & Koch G36 machine guns. They’ve got a range of more than half a mile and can fire 750 rounds per minute.
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Wasn't sure what to make of that article. There are some sound points but also a lot of sensationalist crap it seemed.
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Reading it I thought there was some clear biases, but as you say some interesting points.
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The "Big Society" in action!:
http://www.itv.com/anglia/armed-robbery-footage07521/ (http://www.itv.com/anglia/armed-robbery-footage07521/)
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Thats brilliant, good on her, lucky not to have got twatted though.
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Yes luckily they were the crappest robbers of all time! :lol:
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The muppet who fell of his Vespa must have felt like a right twat. :lol:
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I like the way everyone else only piled in once the granny had shown what a bunch of pathetic twats they were.
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The "Big Society" in action!:
http://www.itv.com/anglia/armed-robbery-footage07521/ (http://www.itv.com/anglia/armed-robbery-footage07521/)
I've been roundly (and quite rightly) upbraided for reposting that elsewhere.
You should of [sic] posted it as "Supergran"...
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Eddie Izzard eat your heart out (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646)
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Some good news for a change:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12389512 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12389512)
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NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12389389)
Another triumph for prohibition. No change in numbers taking it but they're now paying more for a lower quality product.......oh and they're buying it from criminals.
:wall: :wall:
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The "Big Society" in action!:
http://www.itv.com/anglia/armed-robbery-footage07521/ (http://www.itv.com/anglia/armed-robbery-footage07521/)
Just seen this. Glad they were shite robbers as Micheal Jones the Jewellers (the shop being attacked) is a very good local jewellery co-op. My mum would be gutted if it got done over!
(I was a bit worried it was going to be footage of my mum getting involved as she's aleady got into one sticky situation this year when challanging some "youths")
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Some good news for a change:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12389512 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12389512)
A bit more (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12389416) (at least its a start).
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/spectator-killed-by-bird-during-cockfight-2207708.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/spectator-killed-by-bird-during-cockfight-2207708.html)
Delicious irony. Maybe it'll catch on with the birds?
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A bit more (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12389416) (at least its a start).
The coalition says the levy on bank balance sheets is a better way of making sure companies make a fair contribution to tackling the deficit
£2.3bn a "fair contribution"?
(http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal2/orly_dr_evil.gif)
The timing is certainly interesting.......
http://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/34911899841732608 (http://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/34911899841732608)
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As mentioned in the article does this mean teenage mums < 16 shouldn't be left alone with their own children (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12380329) (disregarding whether they were careless in the first place to get pregnant at that age).
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Madness. Only skimmed the article but (as it mentioned the 30 minutes passed without incident) how were the police ever even involved? And "haven't they got anything better to be doing" etc etc.
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A bit more (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12389416) (at least its a start).
The coalition says the levy on bank balance sheets is a better way of making sure companies make a fair contribution to tackling the deficit
£2.3bn a "fair contribution"?
I think they're pretty rattled at the moment, pretty universal condemnation of the proposed changes to the NHS, student fees, forest sell off, mixed reaction to economic policy etc etc. Long may it continue....
(http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal2/orly_dr_evil.gif)
The timing is certainly interesting.......
http://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/34911899841732608 (http://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/34911899841732608)
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I think they're pretty rattled at the moment, pretty universal condemnation of the proposed changes to the NHS, student fees, forest sell off, mixed reaction to economic policy etc etc. Long may it continue....
I read an interesting fact the other day (from Ben Goldacre's blog (http://www.badscience.net/2011/02/andrew-lansley-and-his-imaginary-evidence/))...
There have been 15 major reorganisations of the NHS in 30 years (http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c3843.full) so how the fuck does anyone know whether one is better than another when there has been insufficient time for each reorganisation to take effect before the next one is ushered in and more importantly little to no effort has actually been done to objectively quantify the "performance" under each of these. Healthcare is clearly an emotive subject for a lot of the electorate at any given time, but it shouldn't be used as political leverage as thats a huge disservice to those its meant to be helping and healing.
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I read an interesting fact the other day (from Ben Goldacre's blog (http://www.badscience.net/2011/02/andrew-lansley-and-his-imaginary-evidence/))...
There have been 15 major reorganisations of the NHS in 30 years (http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c3843.full) so how the fuck does anyone know whether one is better than another when there has been insufficient time for each reorganisation to take effect before the next one is ushered in and more importantly little to no effort has actually been done to objectively quantify the "performance" under each of these. Healthcare is clearly an emotive subject for a lot of the electorate at any given time, but it shouldn't be used as political leverage as thats a huge disservice to those its meant to be helping and healing.
Interestingly, I heard a piece on Radio 4 t'other day, some expert or other explaining that there have been detailed studies of previous 'reorganisations'. The most important point was that competition based on price, the coalition plan, is nearly always bad for the patient. Competition on outcome would seem to be the obvious way forward, but god forbid logic played a part in this fuck up.....
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Be interesting to know where the assessments have been published as the linked article suggets otherwise and that reorganisations aren't routinely assessed for how effective they are. Do you remember what show it was on Radio 4 you were listening to?
Given that the "coalition" is trying to save money this makes for grim reading (http://www.nao.org.uk/idoc.ashx?docId=c29af9d8-e22a-499b-bd5f-f31111d0b83f&version=-1) (cited in the BMJ article) as it shows that reorganisation is very expensive (and with no proven benefit in a lot of instances).
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Sorry Slackers, I'm being a bit vagur here, but I'm pretty sure it was on Today. I've had a search and found nowt, but then I am a numpty.
I think you're right though. The research is decidedly patchy and I think the general drift was that the work that has been done was generaaly damning. Can't be any more precise than that which I'm sure is going to make your evidence based head spin :guilty: :whistle:
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Given that the "coalition" is trying to save money
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Sense at last.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12399845 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12399845)
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Sense at last.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12399845 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12399845)
Thats great news, strange that their not registered as charities though if they run off of donations, as I thought charities get tax-breaks.
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What the fuck is he on? (So I know to avoid it) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/joepublic/2011/feb/08/growing-numbers-backing-nhs-reforms-lansley)
Linked in the comments is lobbying by private healthcare company at tory conference (http://www.spinwatch.org.uk/blogs-mainmenu-29/tamasin-cave-mainmenu-107/5391-private-health-lobby-out-in-force-at-tory-conference) :wank:
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Paul Mason - Twenty reasons why it's kicking off everywhere (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2011/02/twenty_reasons_why_its_kicking.html)
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Twitter.
Apparently, crap anyone publishes in a public forum, for public consumption...
is in the public domain.
Who'd ever've thunk that, eh?
http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2011/02/09/press-complaints-commission-says-tweets-arent-private/ (http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2011/02/09/press-complaints-commission-says-tweets-arent-private/)
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Paul Mason - Twenty reasons why it's kicking off everywhere (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2011/02/twenty_reasons_why_its_kicking.html)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10191.msg300953.html#msg300953 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10191.msg300953.html#msg300953) ;)
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"I'm a big fan of you – are you Tony Blair?" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/09/david-cameron-hasslehoff-meeting)
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http://thefriend.org/article/an-exploited-generation/ (http://thefriend.org/article/an-exploited-generation/)
Disgraceful.
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Take that Gove you cunt!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/feb/11/gove-school-building-court (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/feb/11/gove-school-building-court)
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Don't you get the impression that the *really* important news stories get missed by the agencies and the wires?
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2011/02/12/212161_ntnews.html (http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2011/02/12/212161_ntnews.html)
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Sometimes things are just beyond satire
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/britain-gets-comfy-as-melanie-phillips-explains-'biblical-sexuality'-201102143539/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/britain-gets-comfy-as-melanie-phillips-explains-'biblical-sexuality'-201102143539/)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1356699/David-Cameron-Tory-Prime-Minister-upholding-traditional-morality-bigotry.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1356699/David-Cameron-Tory-Prime-Minister-upholding-traditional-morality-bigotry.html)
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Littlejohn........twat.....moron....etc.....
http://primlystable.blogspot.com/2011/02/littlejohn-plagiarises-self-still-gets.html (http://primlystable.blogspot.com/2011/02/littlejohn-plagiarises-self-still-gets.html)
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Littlejohn........twat.....moron....etc.....
How he gets away with just making up his bilious putrid garbage astounds me. I suppose he's trolling for reactions & playing to the gallery...but lots of his readers take him seriously. Time for a press complaints commission which has some teeth
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Listen to the numbers not the spin (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12397254)
I'll raise a glass to that :beer1: :beer2: :pissed:
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We want transparency....but not ours (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/no2av-campaigners-refuse-to-publish-donor-details-2215747.html)
Fucking dicks trying to make up shit, resorting to "Its too expensive" and basing that on unrealistic proposals (e.g. no one has said electronic voting or counting is required) basically shows that they haven't got much of a case to make as to why the Alternative Voting system shouldn't replace the outdated first-past the post.
I seriously hope the referendum a) has a good turn out; b) is a win for the "Yes" camp.
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Let the
right rich ones in (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12471060) usual Tory bullshit of looking out for the rich and everyone else can fuck-off. :wank:
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Anyone from the East Midlands will probably recognise this one...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357830/BBC-weatherman-court-brandishing-shotgun-road-rage-incident.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357830/BBC-weatherman-court-brandishing-shotgun-road-rage-incident.html)
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:o Someone at the Daily Mail appears to understand what risk and probability means (http://hanlonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2011/02/risk-uncertainty-and-what-is-wrong-with-science.html).
If only this could be applied at the editorial level to stem the flow of nonsense stories about how everything (http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/) causes/prevents cancer (http://thedailymailoncologicalontologyproject.wordpress.com/). :wank:
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http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/17/why-havent-the-banks.html (http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/17/why-havent-the-banks.html)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/18/barclays-bank-113m-corporation-tax (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/18/barclays-bank-113m-corporation-tax)
Paid just £113m in UK corporation tax in 2009 – a year when it rang up a record £11.6bn of profits. Thats just 1% :wank:
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So. If, say, I become unemployed for a year, and need to take out loans and go into debt.
Then the next year, I get a job - I don't have to pay the full rate of PAYE as I "lost" money the previous year?
Oh. If only there were accountants (tax, personal finance, or otherwise) on hand to advise us...
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http://imgur.com/nh1kR (http://imgur.com/nh1kR)
(http://www.myemoticons.com/images/entertainment/movies/sharing-popcorn.gif)
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Gaddafi son defiant in cartoon chemical head fire shocker:
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51347000/jpg/_51347422_jex_963661_de27-1.jpg)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12520586 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12520586)
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So. If, say, I become unemployed for a year, and need to take out loans and go into debt.
Then the next year, I get a job - I don't have to pay the full rate of PAYE as I "lost" money the previous year?
Oh. If only there were accountants (tax, personal finance, or otherwise) on hand to advise us...
Of course not. You are a PAYE drone and therefore have no rights. :P
Actually, if you were self employed and made a loss then you could offset it against future profits (of the same trade) or other income (including employment income) in the same tax year.
In the example you give of course the loans you have taken out are a capital item and as such don't create a "loss". If you were self employed and the loans could be shown as being solely for your business then the interest element would be an allowable expense and could be part of expenditure that created a loss.
Also, if your period of unemployment spanned more than one tax year then you could technically pay a lower rate of tax on any PAYE income in those tax years (than you would had you not been unemployed) as your personal allowance may not have been fully utilised or you may have been charged higher rate tax on income which should not have fallen into that bracket.
OK? ;)
Oh and Barclays are a bunch of scamming cunts.
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http://imgur.com/nh1kR (http://imgur.com/nh1kR)
(http://www.myemoticons.com/images/entertainment/movies/sharing-popcorn.gif)
A mate of mine in the states (from Salt Lake City of all places) has a "Fags Hate God" t-shirt inspired by that loony tunes outfit.
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So. If, say, I become unemployed for a year, and need to take out loans and go into debt.
Then the next year, I get a job - I don't have to pay the full rate of PAYE as I "lost" money the previous year?
Oh. If only there were accountants (tax, personal finance, or otherwise) on hand to advise us...
Of course not. You are a PAYE drone and therefore have no rights. :P
Actually, if you were self employed and made a loss then you could offset it against future profits (of the same trade) or other income (including employment income) in the same tax year.
In the example you give of course the loans you have taken out are a capital item and as such don't create a "loss". If you were self employed and the loans could be shown as being solely for your business then the interest element would be an allowable expense and could be part of expenditure that created a loss.
Also, if your period of unemployment spanned more than one tax year then you could technically pay a lower rate of tax on any PAYE income in those tax years (than you would had you not been unemployed) as your personal allowance may not have been fully utilised or you may have been charged higher rate tax on income which should not have fallen into that bracket.
OK? ;)
Oh and Barclays are a bunch of scamming cunts.
Yes, yes, yes. (You do know that I did actually know all that, didn't you?)
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Far-sighted parents?
How prescient of them all those years ago to christen their kid "Jobless"...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3418516/Tatt-mad-Deon-27-has-skull-for-a-face.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3418516/Tatt-mad-Deon-27-has-skull-for-a-face.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News)
Jobless "Mad Dog" Deon, 27, paraded the artwork - his 37th tattoo - on today's Jeremy Kyle Show
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http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=156201537 (http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=156201537)
Is Mini Me on his way to being Dr Evil already. Might give him more fish just in case.
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http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=156201537 (http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=156201537)
Is Mini Me on his way to being Dr Evil already. Might give him more fish just in case.
Clearly not a believer in children being a tabula rasa when born.
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Clearly not
(he says confidently after consulting wikipedia)
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Things like this are nonce sense though, its not just one factor that influences behaviour (or indeed many physiological aspects), but a whole gamut of variables.
All he's done is observe a correlation in adults and extrapolate backwards to children (naively adding fuel to the nature v's nurture debate which is futile anyway as its not one or the other but a mixture of both)
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Reality check for the good 'ol U. S. of A. (http://flowingdata.com/2011/02/22/america-is-not-the-best-at-everything/)
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/02/19/opinion/19blowcht/19blowcht-popup-v5.gif) (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/19/opinion/19blow.html?_r=1)
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I knew it was bad but the prison population and food insecurity stats are truly amazing. The land of the free.....
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Yes, yes, yes. (You do know that I did actually know all that, didn't you?)
Yes of course. But you did ask....... :P
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Study finds MDMA usage doesn't appear to impair cognitive functioning (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2010.03252.x/abstract), tell me something I didn't already know!
(Press Release (http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147))
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Classic!
(http://www.damnlol.com/pics/271/e6d4b7b80a46ce9127369fbfae6df400.jpg)
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Study finds MDMA usage doesn't appear to impair cognitive functioning (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2010.03252.x/abstract), tell me something I didn't already know!
(Press Release (http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147))
Quell surprise.
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After the have a go granny battered those inept Vespa crashing tools, more evidence (from Peterborough) that Cameron's big society is in full swing......or that these thieves are also fucking shit:
"I looked out the corner of my eye and saw this gun. It is not the sort of thing you see every day but I just saw red and thought "how dare they?" he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8343030/Jeweller-grapples-robber-as-he-holds-gun-to-his-head.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8343030/Jeweller-grapples-robber-as-he-holds-gun-to-his-head.html)
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He might be charming and amusing.
But William Hague is still a cunt -witness the "No to AV" lies about it costing £250m and the emotional blackmail about "vote 'no' or the babbie gets it"
And he's an incompetent cunt.
Portugal, France have already arranged flights out of Libya for their citizens.
Our foreign secretary has organised what, to protect or safeguard British citizens?
- Remind me again what does it say in the inside of our passports?
(And just think. A naval group lead by an aircraft carrier would be of what use in these circumstances?)
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The choice's patients make (http://abetternhs.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/the-choices-patients-make/)
The choice's patients don't make (http://abetternhs.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/the-choices-patients-do-not-make/)
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Cheers Slack---line, worth it just for the link to Atul Gawande's article.
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Study finds MDMA usage doesn't appear to impair cognitive functioning (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2010.03252.x/abstract), tell me something I didn't already know!
(Press Release (http://www.addictionjournal.org/viewpressrelease.asp?pr=147))
Quell surprise.
[pedant]
"quelle"
"surprise" ="f"
[/pedant]
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:chair:
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Interesting Madoff interview:
http://nymag.com/news/features/berniemadoff-2011-3/ (http://nymag.com/news/features/berniemadoff-2011-3/)
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"The following comments have been moderated in advance"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361469/Anti-homosexuality-Christian-couple-opposed-foster-care-High-Court-battle.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361469/Anti-homosexuality-Christian-couple-opposed-foster-care-High-Court-battle.html)
These homosexuals might be winning some battles due to stupid actions by immoral organisations and judges who have no sense of decency or values,but they will not win the war. The backlash will come. I have no respect for homosexuals as they have no respect for the views of the majority of British people who feel that having by having decent morals and the right to hold on to good, proven values is being eroded by actions of some homosexuals.
What a stinking twisted country this has become. When it's wrong to stand against this questionable 'lifstyle' then it's time to pack up and leave. We don't all think it's 'OK' to be 'gay' ( a total misuse of the word) you know. Quite a lot of us actually dislike it - very much. Sick judge, sick country, sick PC zealots. ps. I bet this won't get posted.
This is a disgrace. Homosexuality is wrong and is said so in the bible.its an abomination. these decent people who would do no harm to children have lost the opportunity to foster and care for vulnerable children who have no-one. children in foster care are been given to homes where they are sexually assaulted and harmed physically and mentally and yet 2 people who are willing to give up their time to care for children are being denied the right to care for disadvantaged children and the kids will most likely end up in the hands of someone evil rather than a couple who is going to teach them the truths of God and care for them like they were their own.
"But Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson ruled that laws protecting people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation 'should take precedence' over the right not to be discriminated against on religious grounds." There we have it. All men are created equal, but gays are more equal than Christians. Orwell would be so proud.
[et sim par]
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:wall:
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"The following comments have been moderated in advance"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361469/Anti-homosexuality-Christian-couple-opposed-foster-care-High-Court-battle.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361469/Anti-homosexuality-Christian-couple-opposed-foster-care-High-Court-battle.html)
These homosexuals might be winning some battles due to stupid actions by immoral organisations and judges who have no sense of decency or values,but they will not win the war. The backlash will come. I have no respect for homosexuals as they have no respect for the views of the majority of British people who feel that having by having decent morals and the right to hold on to good, proven values is being eroded by actions of some homosexuals.
What a stinking twisted country this has become. When it's wrong to stand against this questionable 'lifstyle' then it's time to pack up and leave. We don't all think it's 'OK' to be 'gay' ( a total misuse of the word) you know. Quite a lot of us actually dislike it - very much. Sick judge, sick country, sick PC zealots. ps. I bet this won't get posted.
This is a disgrace. Homosexuality is wrong and is said so in the bible.its an abomination. these decent people who would do no harm to children have lost the opportunity to foster and care for vulnerable children who have no-one. children in foster care are been given to homes where they are sexually assaulted and harmed physically and mentally and yet 2 people who are willing to give up their time to care for children are being denied the right to care for disadvantaged children and the kids will most likely end up in the hands of someone evil rather than a couple who is going to teach them the truths of God and care for them like they were their own.
"But Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson ruled that laws protecting people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation 'should take precedence' over the right not to be discriminated against on religious grounds." There we have it. All men are created equal, but gays are more equal than Christians. Orwell would be so proud.
[et sim par]
FFS :no:
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What a stinking twisted country this has become. When it's wrong to stand against this questionable 'lifstyle' then it's time to pack up and leave. We don't all think it's 'OK' to be 'gay' ( a total misuse of the word) you know. Quite a lot of us actually dislike it - very much. Sick judge, sick country, sick PC zealots. ps. I bet this won't get posted.
Good, fuck of you disgusting and intolerant cunt, stay away.
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:agree:
What's annoying is that these pricks who say "if x happens then I'm leaving the country!" or "well now x has happened it's time to leave!" never actually do so.
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About fucking time, equality is a two way street (but insurance companies are still thieving cunts so I fully expect them to hike premiums up to the higher level rather than taking the median) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12606610).
At least it will see the end to fucking Sheila's Wheels adverts :thumbsup:
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This is very shit as it will just mean that the companies that control the insurance scam increase premiums for women drivers while pension annuities for men will be reduced. The only effect will be higher profits for the cunts and a shitter deal for consumers, as per.
It's also fucking stupid. How about insurance costs based on age being "discrimination"? Nonsense.
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It's also fucking stupid. How about insurance costs based on age being "discrimination"? Nonsense.
Thats next month.
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"The following comments have been moderated in advance"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361469/Anti-homosexuality-Christian-couple-opposed-foster-care-High-Court-battle.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361469/Anti-homosexuality-Christian-couple-opposed-foster-care-High-Court-battle.html)
Pah, who reads the comments when you can watch them (http://thescarymail.com/)...
The ScaryMail Comments 115 | What about the Poor Christians and the Mean Gays that persecute them (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzGQfwLd70#ws)
The ScaryMail Comments 116 | The Mean Gays Are Attacking the Good Decent Christians again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQrMA_VG9eU#ws)
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What a stinking twisted country this has become. When it's wrong to stand against this questionable 'lifstyle' then it's time to pack up and leave. We don't all think it's 'OK' to be 'gay' ( a total misuse of the word) you know. Quite a lot of us actually dislike it - very much. Sick judge, sick country, sick PC zealots. ps. I bet this won't get posted.
Good, fuck of you disgusting and intolerant cunt, stay away.
Awesome response Slack---line, love it!
Just as long as they don't up sticks to NZ though, I'm trying to escape THEM.
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http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/chesterlestreet/8405206.Dog_bites_elderly_man/ (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/chesterlestreet/8405206.Dog_bites_elderly_man/)
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Just seen this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/3159813.stm) linked on Twitter. The article is nearly 8 years old, so has the practice died out? I hope not.
DBI refers to "Dirt Bag Index", and multiplies the number of tattoos with the number of missing teeth to give an estimate of the number of days since the patient last bathed.
:lol:
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Extracurricular classes have never been so popular.... (http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/campus/class-sex-toy-demonstration-causes-controversy-1.2501746)
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Fucking retarded (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12690652)
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Fucking retarded (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12690652)
Anyone who is offended by a word is a cunt. :)
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This true story took place in Charlotte , North Carolina . A lawyer
purchased a box of very rare and expensive cigars, then insured them
against, among other things, fire.
Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of these great cigars,the
lawyer filed a claim against the insurance company.
In his claim, the lawyer stated the cigars were lost 'in a series of small
fires' ... The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious
reason,that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion.
The lawyer sued and WON
Delivering the ruling, the judge agreed with the insurance company that the
claim was frivolous. The judge stated nevertheless, that the lawyer held a
policy from the company, in which it had warranted that the cigars were
insurable and also guaranteed that it would insure them against fire,
without defining what is considered to be unacceptable 'fire' and was
obligated to pay the claim.
Rather than endure lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance company
accepted the ruling and paid $15,000 to the lawyer for his loss of the
cigars that perished in the 'fires'.
NOW FOR THE BEST PART....
After the lawyer cashed the cheque, the insurance company had him arrested
on 24 counts of ARSON!!!
With his own insurance claim and testimony from the previous case being used
against him, the lawyer was convicted of intentionally burning his insured
property and was sentenced to 24 months in jail and a $24,000 fine.
This true story won First Place in last year's Criminal Lawyers Award
contest..
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Nice!
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You gullible buggers.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/clever/cigarson.asp (http://www.snopes.com/crime/clever/cigarson.asp)
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This true story took place in Charlotte , North Carolina .
Blah, blah INRATS...
(http://www.redmolotov.com/images/designs/call-my-bluff-tshirt_design.jpg)
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And just in case you were thinking of being a buffoon on the 27th in the Census , and sticking it to "the man"
Think on.
http://www.yourenotajedi.com/ (http://www.yourenotajedi.com/)
The data gathered is used to inform government policy, and was used by the last government to justify funding of religious community bodies over secular ones.
For example, 2001 census data has been used repeatedly to justify an increase in the number of state maintained faith schools and the increasing level of government money spent on faith organisations.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/nick-clegg-no-regrets-no-remorse-no-turning-back-on-the-path-he-has-chosen-2238674.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/nick-clegg-no-regrets-no-remorse-no-turning-back-on-the-path-he-has-chosen-2238674.html)
From the comments:
It doesn't really matter what Nick Clegg says in this interview or at his conference. He will have forgotten it all by the following day.
:)
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The Census (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUSUieqKU3Y#)
Don't know if this has been posted, but I can't be arsed looking to see if it has. So here it might be again
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Breaking news from the Sheffield Star
Ebay scam iPad sent to Nigeria (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/action-desk/ebay_scam_ipad_sent_to_nigeria_1_3139757)
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Phil Prior, 36. The only person in England not to have heard the words "Nigerian" and "scam" in the same sentence. Jesus.
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:o :thumbsdown: Live updates (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698)
Video of tsunami in Japan, fucking scary (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709850)
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jaw dropping - hard to believe its real.
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Video of tsunami in Japan, fucking scary (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709850)
Just watched this
:o :o :o :o :o
Holy shit
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I was up just before 6am this morning and switched on the TV after I heard about it on the radio and watched it all happening live. The helicopter flying over the shoreline as the massive Tsunami just motored in from the ocean was just jaw dropping... the LPG explosion was terrifying...
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvx9dzBnF1qdhm9wo1_500.jpg)
Horrible watching it all unfold.
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Yeah, jaw dropping is about all you can say about that tsunami wave. Incredibly destructive :'(
On a lighter note...
I've got a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12708037)
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(http://1.usa.gov/fbSiFS)
Wave energy
Not entirely clear from the bbc live ticker, but it seems they've got the coolant going again at the nuke that has issues - though not before they had to vent some radioactive steam to reduce pressure.
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Mrs got an e-mail from a colleague who is in Tokyo this morning. Apparently being on the 35th floor of a big tower during a strong earthquake is NOT an enjoyable experience! Who'd have thought it.
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A seriously bad opinion piece by a supposed "expert" who patently isn't! I think the general tone of the comments below the piece sums it up.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/richard-gordon-what-happened-to-japans-early-warning-systems-2239750.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/richard-gordon-what-happened-to-japans-early-warning-systems-2239750.html)
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Reactor 1 at Fukushima blowing up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4uogOEUrU#t=45s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4uogOEUrU#t=45s)
(http://i.imgur.com/syu6K.jpg)
Japan Earthquake - Ground shifts, water seeps during quake in Chiba, Japan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LPGzzaSsbU#ws)
地震後の仙台空港の状況 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6iDBoOvb0#ws)
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Excellent piece on why those explosions are nothing to worry about (https://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/)
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Was Freddy Patel constantly pissed or something?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/14/freddy-patel-condemned-gmc (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/14/freddy-patel-condemned-gmc)
:wank: :thumbsdown:
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Insane local jap tv footage of rising waters and crazy shit. Get a lot worse over the course of 6min. Apols for the FB link, not sure where else it's available
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1605260179420#&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1605260179420#&comments)
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Amazing video. It's all over Twitter. Can find a link if anyone can't see that one....
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Can't see it, but is it the one with the black river over-flowing and boats get crushed under bridges or the one with the guy stood on some steps watching the water levels rise, and rise before buildings start getting washed away?
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bit.ly/fXTxcd
The latter.
Incidentally, how come I can see the link that Obi-Wan posted when I'm not on Facebook? :offtopic:
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Someone signed you up without you knowing?
Perhaps someone else has used the computer and left themselves logged in?
The ghosts in the machine?
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Not only am I not signed in to it, I don't have an account (have checked and it doesn't recognise any of my email addresses) and nobody else has used this pc today. Nobody else ever uses it in fact!
:-\
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Must be the ghosts then. :P
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The real problems facing Japan (i.e. not the nuclear power plant, see previous link on why this isn't a problem) (http://depletedcranium.com/while-everyone-was-focused-on-the-nuclear-plant/)
Interesting piece on why the "Robin Hood Tax" may not be such a great idea (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/15/eu_parliament_embraces_tobin_tax/)
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The real problems facing Japan (i.e. not the nuclear power plant, see previous link on why this isn't a problem) (http://depletedcranium.com/while-everyone-was-focused-on-the-nuclear-plant/)
:agree:
But then scaremongoring is what gets them viewers/readers. The human side of this tragedy is being downplayed or ignored in favour of cheap headline grabbing soundbites and dropping in "Chernobyl" at every opportunity. Its worrying how easily and quickly the media switches from factual reporting to sensationalist speculation dragging various "experts" in front of the camera all of whom have entirely different views on what's going on.
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Interesting piece on why the "Robin Hood Tax" may not be such a great idea (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/15/eu_parliament_embraces_tobin_tax/)
No sh*t sherlock... (Modify - directed at the author not you Slackers)
The Tobin tax is just a fig leaf to appease the left and people offended by the notion large profits. The more serious issue is to address the extent of moral hazard in the financial system. The phrase 'too big to fail' caused and will continue to cause more problems for the taxpayer than big bonuses and profits by banks. I note no-one decided that BP was too big to fail when they went very close to collapsing even though a massive chunk of our pensions are dependent on their financial performance.
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Was Freddy Patel constantly pissed or something?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/14/freddy-patel-condemned-gmc (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/14/freddy-patel-condemned-gmc)
Of just incompetent? He has form for fucking up at his job on a regular basis, GMC UB40
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Excellent piece on why those explosions are nothing to worry about (https://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/)
This has moved to MIT NSE Nuclear Information Hub (http://mitnse.com/)
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Nice bit of perspective...
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110315/640/daily_picdump_640_640_38.jpg)
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Nice bit of perspective...
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110315/640/daily_picdump_640_640_38.jpg)
Who says the cores are all still contained? I'm hearing this morning (our time) that the fuel rods in reactor 4 at Fukushima are completely exposed and judging by the risks Japanese technician are taking to try and stem the problems, there is a distinct possibility of this getting worse.
On a broader note, the earthquake was never the biggest problem, it was some distance off shore and all Japanese reactors can deal with them OK anyway. The problem is making sure back up cooling systems are safe from large tsunamis generated by off-shore quakes like the one on Friday (which are inevitable along much of the Japanese coast at some point.) In this regard the Japanese have made a basic error in not putting the back-up pumps on the same high ground as they put the reactors themselves.
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Nice bit of perspective...
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110315/640/daily_picdump_640_640_38.jpg)
Who says the cores are all still contained? I'm hearing this morning (our time) that the fuel rods in reactor 4 at Fukushima are completely exposed and judging by the risks Japanese technician are taking to try and stem the problems, there is a distinct possibility of this getting worse.
They were contained at the time that was written, but obviously the situation has changed.
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Sorry Slackers, I do forget the time difference at times. I am getting hacked off at the "it's really not that bad" bullshit being spread around the www. Not sure if it's just ignorant twats or whether there is a deliberate campaign being orchestrated from somewhere - something that has definitely been happening in the Australian press for the last couple of days, although recent events may have killed it off!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/17/3166838.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/17/3166838.htm)
Just got to hope they can get the power back on!
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The MIT blog I linked above seems to be exceptionally knowledgeable about the implications of the unfolding events.
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Who says the cores are all still contained? I'm hearing this morning (our time) that the fuel rods in reactor 4 at Fukushima are completely exposed.
As far as I'm aware, yes, the fuels rods were "exposed" i.e. they were no longer fully immersed in water - but the whole lot is still contained within the pressure vessel. I'm fairly sure they weren't exposed to the atmosphere which would be a monumental problem.
On a broader note, the earthquake was never the biggest problem, it was some distance off shore and all Japanese reactors can deal with them OK anyway. The problem is making sure back up cooling systems are safe from large tsunamis generated by off-shore quakes like the one on Friday (which are inevitable along much of the Japanese coast at some point.) In this regard the Japanese have made a basic error in not putting the back-up pumps on the same high ground as they put the reactors themselves.
Whether or not there was a fundamental design error, you have to draw the line somewhere when predicting risks.
They would have a design life of ~50 years and it was designed to be able to withstand an 8.2 quake. There are probably many other scenarios that could result in a core meltdown, but like I say, you have to draw the line somewhere!
I'm pretty sure they would have looked at the possibility of a tsunami happening and resulting in the present scenario, the they would have looked at the cost & effort of designing the plant to withstand that, they would have looked at the chances of that actually occuring in the 50 year life span and then thought - nah, it's really, really unlikely that an 8.9 quake would hit, simultaniously killing the external power supply and a tsunami flooding the backup generators, so we won't bother designing out that.
You may think that they should do everything to prevent any possibility of something like this happeneing. Unfortunately, the only way of doing that is by not building it in the first place.
Ultimately, the plant is designed to contain most of the radioactive material in the pressure vessel even if they have a full core meltdown. The only thing worth worrying about now is whether or not the reality lives up to the design...
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As I understand it, unit 4 was undergoing maintenance atthe time, and as such, the fuel rods were NOT in the RPV, but stored in cooling ponds, which there appears to be a problem with. IE exposed to the atmosphere, ie BAD.
However they do seem to have got the power reconnected and sound pretty confident that they should be able to sort the water supply issues now.
RE. "the only way of doing that is by not building it in the first place": they could have built them on the west coast, otherwise known as "the coast that doesn't have one of the most active plate boundaries on earth just offshore". To suggest that a large tsunami and the consequences is outside of the reasonable design criteria given the location is disengineous at best I'd say. (I'm not anti nuclear power btw - this is going to be a fucking disaster for the climate, given the way policy throughout the west, and increasingly in the rotw, is driven by ill informed public opinion) Given their location I think it's well out of line that these plants were given license extensions (more modern nukes use the residual heat in the core after shutdown to power the neccessary cooling rather than relying on an external electricity source. Though wouldn't have made any diff to the issues with the cooling ponds)
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There's an old maxim about bad things happening in threes...earthquake/tsunami...nuclear crisis.....
Spotted this on a volcanology site:
Wednesday 16th March 2011
Mt Fuji Volcano, Japan
A large earthquake (mag 6.2) occurred under Mt Fuji Volcano, Japan on 15th March at 10:31 pm, local time. The epicentre was located 7 km SSW of the summit. The focus was shallow at 10 km. Mt Fuji last erupted in 1708 and is still considered an active volcano. A 2004 Japanese government simulation determined that in the worst-case scenario, a major eruption of Fuji would cause 2.5 trillion (yen) in economic damage.
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Nutter!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12773427 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12773427)
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Nutter!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12773427 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12773427)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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RE. "the only way of doing that is by not building it in the first place": they could have built them on the west coast, otherwise known as "the coast that doesn't have one of the most active plate boundaries on earth just offshore". To suggest that a large tsunami and the consequences is outside of the reasonable design criteria given the location is disengineous at best I'd say. (I'm not anti nuclear power btw - this is going to be a fucking disaster for the climate, given the way policy throughout the west, and increasingly in the rotw, is driven by ill informed public opinion) Given their location I think it's well out of line that these plants were given license extensions (more modern nukes use the residual heat in the core after shutdown to power the neccessary cooling rather than relying on an external electricity source. Though wouldn't have made any diff to the issues with the cooling ponds)
Most of them are on the west coast...
(http://www.significancemagazine.org/SpringboardWebApp/userfiles/sig/image/AbdelUpload/600px-Nuclear_plants_Japan_svg.png)
(From a short article on Nuclear Risk (http://www.significancemagazine.org/details/webexclusive/1037399/Nuclear-risk.html))
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The Sheffield Star's finest writer on form again
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/jo_davison_katie_price_and_gaddafi_tacky_plate_anyone_1_3193487 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/jo_davison_katie_price_and_gaddafi_tacky_plate_anyone_1_3193487)
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In a culture where millions read mindless drivel about boring celebrities
...written without a hint of irony. :bow:
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Getting a bit :off: but, just a short one:
As I understand it, unit 4 was undergoing maintenance atthe time, and as such, the fuel rods were NOT in the RPV, but stored in cooling ponds, which there appears to be a problem with. IE exposed to the atmosphere, ie BAD.
It seems like the fuel rods maybe have been exposed in the Unit 4 colling pool. This is still not "exposed to the atmoshpere" - yes, there was a large increase in radiation and yes, there was a significant increase in the likelihood of the fuel melting and potentially destroying the cooling pond containment. But, the fuel is still in the colling pond structure.
To suggest that a large tsunami and the consequences is outside of the reasonable design criteria given the location is disengineous at best I'd say.
I'd agree with this - what I meant was there is always a line to be drawn. Is the line 8.2 quake & 15ft Tsunami, 8.9 Quake and 30ft Tsunami, 10.0 quake & 100ft Tsunami. I'm not saying they drew the line in the correct place, or that the design was as robust as it could have been. But at some point, someone, somewhere has to make this decision. If you had to build a plant in that location where would you draw the line?
[the obvious answer is build it on the west coast, but that's a separate discussion]
Time will tell if investigators consider that the designers, operators and regulators took resonable precautions.
Given their location I think it's well out of line that these plants were given license extensions (more modern nukes use the residual heat in the core after shutdown to power the neccessary cooling rather than relying on an external electricity source. Though wouldn't have made any diff to the issues with the cooling ponds)
I'd definitely agree with this, but with the looming energy gap there's a huge pressure to keep the lights on and it's not surprising that more risks are taken (not that I agree with this - we should have been planning for the energy gap years ago...)
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This (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/18/deficit-reduction-averaging-george-osborne) seems to be a pretty sensible "plan B". Which Osborne will completely ignore of course.
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Kicking off in Libya (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12796972) hope people stay as safe as possible. :thumbsdown:
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This could go spectacularly wrong: Gadaffhi has not been in power for 4 decades by luck alone: being shrewd, manipulative and amoral are the qualities we will see him use as he clings to power and it's going to be grim.
That said I do think there's a moral imperative here. Obviously moral imperatives aren't so 'imperative' to government when balanced against strategic interest: we're not going to be meddling in Bahrain or Yemen now are we?
Interesting to note that Rory Stewart (whose general thrust in previous discussions about Afghanistan seemed to be 'we're on a hiding to nothing/western policymakers don't know what they're talking about') supports the action:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2011-03-17a.494.0&m=40477#g544.1 (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2011-03-17a.494.0&m=40477#g544.1)
Then again, as a Tory MP he does have a motive for supporting the party line.
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This could go spectacularly wrong:
No fucking shit!
(GPWM, btw)
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Pretty fucking disgusting (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/us-army-kill-team-afghanistan-posed-pictures-murdered-civilians).
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At the other end of the spectrum...... Bret Easton Ellis' take (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-12/bret-easton-ellis-how-charlie-sheen-is-giving-us-what-we-want/) on the Charlie Sheen circus.
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The greatest alumnus from the BBC''s charm school strikes again
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/9012042/clarkson-blows-a-gasket/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/9012042/clarkson-blows-a-gasket/)
And again
http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/858587-jeremy-clarkson-tells-top-gear-fans-chuck-yeager-was-the-biggest-w-er (http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/858587-jeremy-clarkson-tells-top-gear-fans-chuck-yeager-was-the-biggest-w-er)
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Muslamic-tastic!
Funny EDL Interview - Incoherent Anger, Muslamic Infidels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M#)
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It's that man again!
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/181437/Jeremy-Clarkson-ranting-down-under (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/181437/Jeremy-Clarkson-ranting-down-under)
(Warning.Crappy advertising vie-doh with sound embedded in page)
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Muslamic-tastic!
Holy shit do people like that actually exist???
You couldn't make it up :shrug:
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Muslamic-tastic!
Funny EDL Interview - Incoherent Anger, Muslamic Infidels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M#)
EEEE-R lad!
da only fing worse dan dem moozlimistis is them goffs!
this man clearly never went/failed at his education, i would have thought they would have got someone with a bit more brain power to talk..
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this man clearly never went/failed at his education, i would have thought they would have got someone with a bit more brain power to talk..
I'd imagine that was the point the interviewer was trying to make...
No doubt there was a well versed and fluent ringleader hanging around, but that wouldn't have been nearly as amusing.
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No doubt there was a well versed and fluent ringleader hanging around
This being the EDL, I very much doubt that there was. :)
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New Engineering Jobs near Glasgow (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12817789)
The ~100 redundancies 2 months ago weren;t so well publicised... :-\
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Muslamic-tastic!
I would have thought they would have got someone with a bit more brain power to talk..
He may well have been the pick of the bunch. :) We should be grateful: Muslamic is a word to cherish. On the downside, if that performance is anything to go by, I doubt we'll be reading it in Hansard any time soon.
If you actually listen to what his -incoherently and maybe drunkenly expressed- concerns really are, they might be worth addressing: changing multi-cultural social composition and anxieties about Sharia law. Otherwise they just remain an mistrustful anxiety in some, a opportunity to exploit for the far right in others.
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An interesting perspective on the recent goings-on in Japan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/21/pro-nuclear-japan-fukushima)
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New Engineering Jobs near Glasgow (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12817789)
The ~100 redundancies 2 months ago weren;t so well publicised... :-\
From where? You guys as well?
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Yup - seem like they punted them out only to be replaced 2 months later.
2008: Doosan Babcock today announced a £11M project to create an industry-leading Research and Development programme in Renfrew, Scotland. The project, which is supported by an R&D grant awarded by Scottish Enterprise, will establish Doosan Babcock as a global leader for clean energy technologies including power station boilers and associated environmental control technologies.
The grant reinforces Scotland's reputation for world leading science and engineering and will support over 100 jobs. As the R&D Centre becomes established it is projected to grow to 200 staff over the next few years. The centre will ensure a continuing demand for highly skilled scientific, technical and engineering staff and the local economy will also benefit from support jobs. Collaboration with researchers in Scottish universities will increase
January 2011:
:tumble:
March 2011:
Doosan intends to locate its research and development centre for renewables at its current site at Westway in Renfrew, creating up to 200 jobs.
The Korean firm is also in talks with the business development agency, Scottish Enterprise, to set up manufacturing and assembly facilities in Scotland - its favoured location for wind turbine development and production.
:lol: See the similarities? Hopefully it works out a bit better this time...
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A women is to be seen but not heard :o ........ http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3487474/Wacky-couple-share-their-bungalow-with-a-world-beating-collection-of-240-love-dolls.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3487474/Wacky-couple-share-their-bungalow-with-a-world-beating-collection-of-240-love-dolls.html)
They should make a comedy about it
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The Tolerant 1 - 0 Homophobes
http://techdailydose.nationaljournal.com/2011/03/apples-gay-app-pulled.php (http://techdailydose.nationaljournal.com/2011/03/apples-gay-app-pulled.php)
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An interesting perspective on the recent goings-on in Japan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/21/pro-nuclear-japan-fukushima)
When is peak uranium? :worms:
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More breaking news from The Sheffield Star
http://www.thestar.co.uk/community/star-bizarre/spooky_faces_in_ben_s_kneecaps_1_3218611 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/community/star-bizarre/spooky_faces_in_ben_s_kneecaps_1_3218611)
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Amazing stuff, it's not like there's nothing of importance going on around the world to report on.
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Artificial leaf 10-times more efficient than its natural counter-part (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/28/artificial-leaf)
Lets hope this see's fruition (and whilst the aim of getting it deployed across the third world is laudable, getting investment from developed countries would be far easier if its made available there at the same time).
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3498071/Not-fuhrer-sale.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3498071/Not-fuhrer-sale.html)
Another slow news day? Or just that journalists can no longer be arsed to look for any real news, they just regurgitate any old shit they see on twitter?
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Its "The Sun".....
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Finally evidence that UK and European climbing is harder than anywhere else in the world - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12911806 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12911806)
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Worth reading whether you like / agree with Hari or not:
http://johannhari.com/2011/03/29/the-biggest-lie-in-british-politics (http://johannhari.com/2011/03/29/the-biggest-lie-in-british-politics)
And:
http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/audio-blog-the-biggest-lie-in-british-politics/ (http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/audio-blog-the-biggest-lie-in-british-politics/)
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Worth reading whether you like / agree with Hari or not:
http://johannhari.com/2011/03/29/the-biggest-lie-in-british-politics (http://johannhari.com/2011/03/29/the-biggest-lie-in-british-politics)
Good read that, makes sense. Shame politicians don't learn from the history/evidence and prefer to just make crap up.
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Here's a little maths problem for you......
One of the stories on 6Music News this morning is on the number of potholes in Britain. Apparently there are 2 million of the buggers across the country. A tarmac company claims it will cost Local Authorities 'over 10 billion pounds' to fix them all.
Now, you clever people, how much is that per pothole? Do you think it would be worth advising the Local Authorities to maybe shop around a little bit?
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Now, you clever people, how much is that per pothole? Do you think it would be worth advising the Local Authorities to maybe shop around a little bit?
Sheeeeaaatttt - I'm in the wrong business, at £5000 per pothole I could retire in a few weeks!
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Quick bit of maths on the back of a fag packet gives me the figure of £5000 per pot hole.
Is the pot hole problem being contracted out or has it been so already though? I seem to remember hearing that LA's were supposed to be sorting out the problem with some form of government help. As it is the tarmac company talking head could just have pulled a figure out of the air when asked what the cost would be to resolve it.
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Shirley, its not that simple. Cost might include payouts to road users for damaged vehicles. Indeed our very own "lambo" bust a tyre in a pothole, for which we received a crisp 100 quid cheque from kirklees council. This, along with several council employees hourly rates must also be factored in.
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It's just the usual case of fucking lazy jurno cunts!
If you actually read the report, it states that the average repair cost per pothole in England is £53.81, which sounds pretty reaosnable and realistic to me.
Sometimes Most of the time I hate the fecking press! >:(
Shirley, its not that simple. Cost might include payouts to road users for damaged vehicles. Indeed our very own "lambo" bust a tyre in a pothole, for which we received a crisp 100 quid cheque from kirklees council. This, along with several council employees hourly rates must also be factored in.
Last year just under 2Million were filled. £10.6m was spent on compensation claims, so approximately £5.50 per pothole filled.
The £10 Billion is the "Hypothetical amount it would cost to fix all the roads in England and Wales in one massive project" A figure almost entirely unrelated tot he number of potholes filled per year.
There we go, a few FACTS to counteract the press hyperbole!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQYfPhtWpy8&feature=player_embedded#at=12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQYfPhtWpy8&feature=player_embedded#at=12)
Boy George comes unstuck big time when quizzed about the actual level of debt in the UK.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/mail-readers%27-heads-explode-in-search-for-april-fool-201104013681/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/mail-readers%27-heads-explode-in-search-for-april-fool-201104013681/)
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Today's NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!! award goes to.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/01/webuyanycarcom-offers-one-25-price-quoted (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/01/webuyanycarcom-offers-one-25-price-quoted)
Who should you have more disdain for, the cunts who create the scam or the cunts who fall for it?
:devangel:
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Today's NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!! award goes to.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/01/webuyanycarcom-offers-one-25-price-quoted (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/01/webuyanycarcom-offers-one-25-price-quoted)
Who should you have more disdain for, the cunts who create the scam or the cunts who fall for it?
:devangel:
I like to make sure I have at least a little contempt for both.
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However, in sadder news Edward Stobart, son of Eddie Stobart and responsible for establishing the company as the national icon it is today has passed away.
Sadly, his life was restricted to just 56.
However, they are making a film of his life - it looks good; I've seen the trailer - it's bound to appeal to people of haulages.
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Today's NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!! award goes to.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/01/webuyanycarcom-offers-one-25-price-quoted (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/apr/01/webuyanycarcom-offers-one-25-price-quoted)
Who should you have more disdain for, the cunts who create the scam or the cunts who fall for it?
:devangel:
I like to make sure I have at least a little contempt for both.
And the :wank:er who came up with their oh so fecking annoying adverts
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/04/pro-cuts-rally-against-debt (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/04/pro-cuts-rally-against-debt)
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My word. I can't work out if Toby Young is incredibly stupid to the point of actually believing the shit he comes out with or just a complete and utter scumbag. Or both.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/04/pro-cuts-rally-against-debt (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/04/pro-cuts-rally-against-debt)
"Any visits to Fortnum & Mason's by protesters will only be to marvel at their selection of quality goods and perhaps make the occasional purchase," it says. "Bonfires will be strictly forbidden: it's out of season anyway. Trips to see Vodafone and other high street chains will result in congratulations to the company for providing jobs and growth in the UK."
What a bunch of :wank:
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Coulson next? :fishing:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/05/phone-hacking-affair-now-journalists-arrested (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/05/phone-hacking-affair-now-journalists-arrested)
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When I saw this footage earlier today over here I realized we were probably parked about three spots to the left on the weekend!! :o
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/video-crash-driver-survives-100ft-plunge-2262849.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/video-crash-driver-survives-100ft-plunge-2262849.html)
Glad I didn't test the barriers at all!!
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I hadn't realised that new laws governing paternity leave are coming into effect (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12949382), seems quite fair and reasonable to me.
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Human Genetics Commission sees no barriers to pre-conception genetic screening (http://www.hgc.gov.uk/Client/document.asp?DocId=315&CAtegoryId=10), can only be a good thing in my opinion, especially as its not saying its obligatory.
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Why inequality is a bad thing for everyone:
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105?currentPage=1 (http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105?currentPage=1)
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Why inequality is a bad thing for everyone:
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105?currentPage=1 (http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105?currentPage=1)
Not got time to read that (for once), but I bet it lifts a lot of information/facts from The Spirit Level : Why Equality Is Better For Everyone (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spirit-Level-Equality-Better-Everyone/dp/0141032367/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302099932&sr=1-2) which has had some good reviews and is sat on my shelf waiting to be read (just got one more to get through, was interrupted in starting it by getting Troll Wall).
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I've bigged it up here before but The Spirit Level is a pretty essential read. You'll love it Slackers - its packed with stats.
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My friend was reading it in Verdon last year and I read a few bits, sounded interesting.
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/270714301.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1302126425&Signature=eQowAn9kdByFZGihXXYkqZ6Q7WE%3D)
Is it just me, and my twisted sense of humour......? :sorry:
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:lol:
I wonder if the lessons will include how to use his little finger too ;)
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The topic and subject matter presented were interesting in the bits I read. :oops:
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Not news, but all other earthquake footage has been posted here and this is a new one (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1301163352) I came across today :o :jaw:
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Something about the way the camera moves around in that video gives a real sense of the gut-wrenching fear that the cameraman must have felt as the full power of the wave kicked in. Terrifying!
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:agree:
Total helplessness. Absolutely terrifying.
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So much for "scaling back the database state" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/07/air-passenger-data-collection-europe)
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A fine candidate for a new Viz character
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/useless_thief_trapped_on_cattle_grid_1_3275072 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/useless_thief_trapped_on_cattle_grid_1_3275072)
He could be the inspiration for a good tv sitcom; a sort of crooked Frank Spencer, who has to be rescued then arrested by the police at the end of every episode. Are Galton and Simpson still around?
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I know this has been coming for quite a while. But still . . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13031397 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13031397)
State endorsed racism. Totally outrageous that they can get away with this. In conjunction with the rise of nationalism in france again it is all pretty worrying.
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Don't pack your niqab next time you head to Font then.
:ninja:
I think it might be quite liberating for the women who are often forced to wear such accoutrements by their male partners to be able to have the freedom to show their face in public (although it may result in them not actually being allowed out by said male partners). :devangel:
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I agree that thee are definitely two sides to this argument. I hate the idea that people are forced to wear the veil against their wishes. However, I suspect the legislation the French are bringing in is nothing really to do with women's rights (that is a thinly veiled excuse). Excuse the pun. I think the real motive is a populist anti-islamic one. But i don't know, but i certainly don't trust the french government. I also can't believe it would be enforceable if it went to the European courts.
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I also can't believe it would be enforceable if it went to the European courts.
You mean like keeping DNA of innocent people interminably which was ruled as being contrary to European Human Rights, yet is still being enforced and the ruling fought against by the UK government? :offtopic:
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This case has been the centre of attention here for a while now, finally over and the cowardly cvnt is off to spend at least 32 years inside. I suspect they'll have to protect him from the other inmates for quite some time!
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sentenced-to-life-bridge-killer-lets-fly-with-bizarre-courtroom-rant-20110410-1d9dh.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sentenced-to-life-bridge-killer-lets-fly-with-bizarre-courtroom-rant-20110410-1d9dh.html)
For those who've never been to Melbourne, this is where it happened.
(http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/87/West_Gate_Bridge_Melbourne.jpg)
The original story was reported 2 years ago even in your papers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/4386871/Australian-man-throws-daughter-to-death-from-bridge.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/4386871/Australian-man-throws-daughter-to-death-from-bridge.html)
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Re the French Burka ban, it's a very difficult issue but I think this is an interesting take on things:
http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-it-liberal-to-ban-burka.html (http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-it-liberal-to-ban-burka.html)
DaveC - That story is totally horrific. Just glad he hasn't got away with playing the mad card.
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A fine candidate for a new Viz character
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/useless_thief_trapped_on_cattle_grid_1_3275072 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/useless_thief_trapped_on_cattle_grid_1_3275072)
He could be the inspiration for a good tv sitcom; a sort of crooked Frank Spencer, who has to be rescued then arrested by the police at the end of every episode. Are Galton and Simpson still around?
Some pretty moderate comments on this report by the good folk of Sheffield as to the future of this guy.
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Wouldn't condone the hanging, drowning or battering with baseball bats necessarily but I'm all for scumbags such as this being banged up until they are able to prove their worth to society.
The only problems with this plan would be the massive cost of incarcerating all these chavs and the overcrowding which we already have in the prison system. If only there was a way to reduce the number of people already banged up, generally because of "drug crime", and then some way of making it profitable (or at least break even) to take away the liberty of vast swathes of subhuman scum without just using prisons....... eh lagers?
:-\ ;)
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Can we not consider for a moment that, rather than being spectacularly inept, the criminal fraternity's equivalent of Inspector Clouseau if you will, this man is a criminal mastermind and underworld kinpin.
He's being continually arrested and incarcerated for trivial and largely meaningless offences, for very short periods of time.
He's using this partly to deflect from his real work, in plannning and bankrolling really important and lucrative endeavours, and uses his time courtesy of Her Majesty to get in contact with his underworld contacts.
As some of them are in jail, the easiest way to discuss with them forthcoming work is to be in jail himself.
See. All it takes is a little "thinking outside the box", and it all becomes crystal clear!
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How do you "save" a boy from homosexuality?
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/i-was-rescuing-him-from-homosexuality--church-abuser-tells-court-20110412-1dbrn.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/i-was-rescuing-him-from-homosexuality--church-abuser-tells-court-20110412-1dbrn.html)
Take him to the toilets and bugger him apparently!! Who'd have thought it?
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The MIT blog I've linked before is still the most balanced, evidence based source of information on this I've been reading to date. They state...
Radiation levels in most prefectures continue to hover at or slightly above background. However, radiation dose rates in a few isolated areas are higher. Yukio Edano named these locations: Katsuo, Kawamata, Namie, Iitate, and Minami Soma, most of which are inside the zone already ordered to evacuate or take shelter. The dose rates reported by the IAEA in these areas have a maximum of 1.6 microsieverts per hour. For comparison, the average background rate is 0.05-0.1 microsieverts per hour.
Monitoring of food and water from the region is ongoing. In a few prefectures, iodine and cesium isotopes have been detected in quantities below regulatory limits. An advisory against giving water to infants is in place in just one village in Fukushima prefecture. Food samples have for the most part shown either no detectable contamination, or levels below regulatory limits. Of 157 samples of foods, one sample of seafood (sand lance) and three samples of shiitake mushrooms, all originating from Fukushima prefecture, exceeded regulatory limits on I-131.
Recent post on Regulatory limits on radiation dose (http://mitnse.com/2011/04/07/regulatory-limits-on-radiation-dose/)
And the XKCD cartoon is excellent at giving a sense of perspective on exposure doseage and its effects...
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/radiation.png) (http://xkcd.com/radiation/)
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A bit more on the "Level 7" paranoia/hysteria is provided by this post on understanding certainty (http://understandinguncertainty.org/node/1284).
Its also worth noting that the half-life of 131I is roughly eight days (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131), so its nothing like uranium/plutonium being billowed into the sky that will rain down and kill all and sundry, and the guidelines for reporting the level of risk are being ignored by the media reporting it.
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And the XKCD cartoon is excellent at giving a sense of perspective on exposure doseage and its effects...
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/radiation.png) (http://xkcd.com/radiation/)
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Could not find the animation for "sh*t, I think my head is going to explode"
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A bit more on the "Level 7" paranoia/hysteria is provided by this post on understanding certainty (http://understandinguncertainty.org/node/1284).
Its also worth noting that the half-life of 131I is roughly eight days (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131), so its nothing like uranium/plutonium being billowed into the sky that will rain down and kill all and sundry, and the guidelines for reporting the level of risk are being ignored by the media reporting it.
:agree: the media are just scaremongering speculating cvnts. Facts? pah, they're not juicy enough, lets make something up and drag on an "expert" to agree with us :furious:
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Geeks to the rescue (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703841904576256512991215284.html) :geek:
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They're getting closer.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/14/news-of-the-world-journalist-arrested (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/14/news-of-the-world-journalist-arrested)
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Never liked Prescott much, but did enjoy him blazing that (ex?) NOTW Journalist on the 10 O Clock Show when he was trying to justify the phone tapping.
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The Sheffield Star....making news out of nothing! (http://www.thestar.co.uk/lifestyle/columnists/the_bus_journey_that_changed_my_life_1_3285055)
Directed advertising (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-13070369) :lol:
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Just Fancy That! [1]
Compare and contrast!
Government treatment of "The English Regions" and that London.
[As reported in Conservative-supporting newspaper, "The Yorkshire Post"
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/regionalism_row_sparked_by_public_land_sale_1_3284403 (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/regionalism_row_sparked_by_public_land_sale_1_3284403)
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Just Fancy That! [2]
http://www.expatforum.com/britain/british-prime-minister-gets-tough-on-immigration.html (http://www.expatforum.com/britain/british-prime-minister-gets-tough-on-immigration.html)
and how, precisely, are they supposed to do that, "Dave, 'Dave call me Dave' Dave"?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/apr/14/english-lessons-funding-immigrants (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/apr/14/english-lessons-funding-immigrants)
"Dave, 'Dave, call me cunt, cunt" more like.
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Heard about GW Pharmaceuticals a good few years ago, but its fucking ludicrous that development has pushed costs so high (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/17/gw-pharmaceuticals-justin-gover-cannabis-sativex-multiple-sclerosis) and the Gov't twits continue to keep the cheap alternative from which it is derived illegal. :wall: :wall: :wall:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/18/guardian-icm-poll-av-vote-support-collapses (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/18/guardian-icm-poll-av-vote-support-collapses)
bugger
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I voted
1 yes.
2 no.
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I wasn't sure where this should go but here seems a pretty good fit.
Check out this URL from the Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/utter-PR-fiction-but-people-love-this-shit-so-fuck-it-lets-just-print-it-2269573.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/utter-PR-fiction-but-people-love-this-shit-so-fuck-it-lets-just-print-it-2269573.html)
shits & giggles maybe or did someone forget to re-name it? :oops:
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I wasn't sure where this should go but here seems a pretty good fit.
Check out this URL from the Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/utter-PR-fiction-but-people-love-this-shit-so-fuck-it-lets-just-print-it-2269573.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/utter-PR-fiction-but-people-love-this-shit-so-fuck-it-lets-just-print-it-2269573.html)
shits & giggles maybe or did someone forget to re-name it? :oops:
No such thing. This has been doing the rounds on Twitter this morning.
Basically it doesn't matter what the fuck you put between the last '/' and the final '-#######.html' it will still take you to the page for the story referenced by #######
So you could put in http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/Tescos-are-a-bunch-of-unscrupolous-money-grabbing-inconsiderate-wankers-2269787.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/Tescos-are-a-bunch-of-unscrupolous-money-grabbing-inconsiderate-wankers-2269787.html) and it would still work.
Try it out for yourself if you can be arsed.
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I wasn't sure where this should go but here seems a pretty good fit.
Check out this URL from the Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/utter-PR-fiction-but-people-love-this-shit-so-fuck-it-lets-just-print-it-2269573.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/utter-PR-fiction-but-people-love-this-shit-so-fuck-it-lets-just-print-it-2269573.html)
shits & giggles maybe or did someone forget to re-name it? :oops:
No such thing. This has been doing the rounds on Twitter this morning.
Basically it doesn't matter what the fuck you put between the last '/' and the final '-#######.html' it will still take you to the page for the story referenced by #######
So you could put in http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/Tescos-are-a-bunch-of-unscrupolous-money-grabbing-inconsiderate-wankers-2269787.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/Tescos-are-a-bunch-of-unscrupolous-money-grabbing-inconsiderate-wankers-2269787.html) and it would still work.
Try it out for yourself if you can be arsed.
I consider myself duly educated :-[
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I can only assume the Libyan rebels are planning some kind of monumental retreat or surrender (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13143988)
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This isn't going to end well...........or soon. :thumbsdown:
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rotten to the core (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears)
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rotten to the core (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears)
Stuck that in the IT News (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,13578.msg312540.html).
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I saw, just bringing it to a wider public and I like my headline better
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Worth doing, and it is indeed wittier than mine.
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Apple not green (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/21/apple-least-green-tech-company?CMP=twt_fd)
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Apple not green (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/21/apple-least-green-tech-company?CMP=twt_fd)
It focuses on Apple because they use coal in their data centre and yet Farcebook, and others aren't that far behind...
The report estimated dependence on coal for Apple's data centres at 54.5%, followed by Facebook at 53.2%, IBM at 51.6%, HP at 49.4%, and Twitter at 42.5%
Yet I'm sure its a cunning ploy to capture the attention of all the Apple fans and gander greater customer support for them to use cleaner energy in their data centres. :-\
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/saint-george-the-canon-and-a-flood-of-rightwing-hate-2271982.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/saint-george-the-canon-and-a-flood-of-rightwing-hate-2271982.html)
The story is somewhat disturbing but the comments by some character called Kevin Boyle (three at last count) are priceless. Of course he's one of those NUTTERS WHO LIKE TO TYPE bits in upper case to MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT WHAT they are saying actually is. First he starts with a couple of bizarre rants going on about the "Frankfurt group" and their conspiracy to undermine everything we supposedly stand for etc etc :shrug:. He then caps it off with a fabulous rant about the World Trade Centre towers defying the laws of gravity or something!! :wall: Where do these nutters get some of this bullshit from?
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:slap: Stupid little man - it would be hilarious if he wasn't in the job he is.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/humanity-not-random-event--pope-20110424-1dso7.html (http://www.theage.com.au/world/humanity-not-random-event--pope-20110424-1dso7.html)
I apologise to anybody on here who's a catholic but honestly, the guy is a fuckwit of the highest order!
...and now breathe....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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Darwin Award nomination for this easter...
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/friends-watch-as-truck-prank-ends-in-tragedy-20110425-1dtak.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/friends-watch-as-truck-prank-ends-in-tragedy-20110425-1dtak.html)
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If only!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/apr/27/charlie-brooker-wedding-go-home (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/apr/27/charlie-brooker-wedding-go-home)
1.25pm Balcony Kiss
Your chance to witness the one image certain to dominate every newspaper's front page tomorrow. Unless Prince Harry goes mad and has a shit on the steps of the cathedral and then does a backflip and kicks a girl in the face.
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The 118 robber gets caught
http://www.thestar.co.uk/community/star-bizarre/cross_dress_robber_wore_fake_moustache_in_store_raids_to_evade_justice_for_seven_years_1_3328167 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/community/star-bizarre/cross_dress_robber_wore_fake_moustache_in_store_raids_to_evade_justice_for_seven_years_1_3328167)
fake moustache and carrying a toy gun.
Lee wore a deerstalker
a comedy genius, shirley
.....and another of our brightest citizens falls victim to the new wave of internet crime
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/action-desk/nigerian_conmen_strike_again_1_3312862 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/action-desk/nigerian_conmen_strike_again_1_3312862)
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Met at it again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13234682 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13234682)
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Apparently Bin Laden is dead
(http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/05/2011522132275789.html)
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Osama Bin Laden Is Dead (South Park) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fm43Gfq0mE#ws)
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Obama's on a roll lately: skewered that twat Trump at the White House dinner at the weekend and now sorted Bin Laden. A nice touch "burying" him at sea, if that's actually true.
Just watched the Obama "Trump roast" on Youtube. It's class! :clap2:
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Hari wrote a good piece about Trump the other day:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-donald-trumps-lunacy-reveals-core-truth-about-the-republicans-2276222.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-donald-trumps-lunacy-reveals-core-truth-about-the-republicans-2276222.html)
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Apparently Bin Laden is dead
(http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/05/2011522132275789.html)
People who lost friend and relations on 9/11 may gain some comfort but this doesn't make any real difference to anything, except perhaps the next (US) presidential election. Al Quaeda was mostly a phantom enemy, puffed-up by the neoconservatives, to replace the much-missed Soviet Union. There was no unified terrorist network, only a motley collection of groups who scored some relatively small, though spectacular, successes. The myth suited both some in the US and radical Islam.
The Power of Nightmares (http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares): excellent BBC documentary on the parallels between and symbiotic relationship of the neocons and Islamists.
Obama's on a roll lately:
Fine timing, both short-term (avoiding the wedding) and medium-term (Bin Laden had outlived his usefulness as Bogeyman; close-enough to influence the re-election campaign).
I wonder what the man-in-the-grocers-shop will make of it?
Interesting series of tweets Uh oh, now I'm the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it. (http://twitter.com/#!/reallyvirtual)
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DNA testing has shown conclusively that Obama shares more genes in common with a crab than he does with you and me.
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Interesting article Jasper, thanks. Shame he didn't sound like he'd actually read Nietszche at the end.
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DNA testing has shown conclusively that Obama shares more genes in common with a crab than he does with you and me.
(http://www.rebeccagoings.com/images/krabs.gif)
Interesting article Jasper, thanks. Shame he didn't sound like he'd actually read Nietszche at the end.
I wouldn't know but it doesn't surprise me. While I like his writing and generally agree with the gist of his articles he does have a tendancy to get carried away and not worry too much about the accuracy of everything he says....
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Well I'm being a bit snotty but Nietszche isn't really an apologist for the master race. He did say things that can be misconstrued though, and he did go quite bananas, but his ideas were mostly about overcoming oneself, not the plebs and the arabs.
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I'm very sceptical about this, particularly due to the timing. It's entirely possible that Bin Liner has been dead for a while, the US has just found out and Obama's cronies have staged this to boost his image post "Trump" and pre election!
Where are the photo's, whee's the proof? Burial at sea? How convenient!
I'm such a cynic. :-\
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I reckon there wasn't much to photograph, and the burial at sea was more like pouring a bucket of bits overboard. US Special Forces aren't known for killing with one clear headshot.
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They do have photographs, but they won't release them for some time as it's against the Geneva convention (or some other international law) to show film or stills of dead enemy combatants.
The burial at sea was to comply with Islamic practice that a body is 'buried' within 24 hours of death. The Saudi's wouldn't take the body so he was given an Islamic 'burial' out at sea.
I'm in agreement with Thesiger that this will have a significant impact across the world. I'm also very pleased that they got him at last and that it was in a firefight where he was given the option to surrender rather than via a remote drone attack or air strike. Good.
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OK. When they heard "buried at sea" who didn't think of
The Pogues- If I Should Fall From Grace With God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbBc2cmiYQ&feature=related#)
?
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I'm glad he's gone also. on 9-11 i was flying to California and had more than a few moments of terror up there when at some point i realized the Sun was on the opposite side than 5 mins before... luckily we were just going back to Paris. and then what i saw there...
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I'm in agreement with Thesiger that this will have a significant impact across the world. I'm also very pleased that they got him at last and that it was in a firefight where he was given the option to surrender rather than via a remote drone attack or air strike. Good.
They looked at the option of targeted bombing but Obama eventually made the call.....
http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/inside-the-situation-room-weve-idd-geronimo/ (http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/inside-the-situation-room-weve-idd-geronimo/)
(http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/5680724572_d4696d593d_z.jpg?w=606&h=394&crop=1)
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Isn't that James Gandolfini and Peter Capaldi in the padded seats taking Method Acting just a tad too far?
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Scum at it again, following the death of Osama Bin Laden
Learning that the world’s most-wanted terrorist was holed up in a house 100 yards away from a Pakistani army garrison is like being told that there are plans to build a giant mosque overlooking the parade ground at Sandhurst. Hang on a minute, come to think of it, that’s exactly what is being planned. It’s currently going to appeal.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1382835/Osama-Bin-Laden-shot-dead-A-bullet-brain-coward-deserved.html#ixzz1LMsAYmt0 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1382835/Osama-Bin-Laden-shot-dead-A-bullet-brain-coward-deserved.html#ixzz1LMsAYmt0)
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Do we really need to bother linking to twattish articles in the Daily Mail (Sun etc.) and increase the traffic on their site and bumping up their prominence on the web?
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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6703 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6703)
This is interesting and I also believe he should of been taken alive and tried in a court, which it appears they could of done!
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High profile trial further increasing mythic status or lower-profile burial? :-\
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/03/ian-tomlinson-simon-harwood-prosecution (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/03/ian-tomlinson-simon-harwood-prosecution)
How will they be able to avoid taking the copper to trial now?
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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6703 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6703)
This is interesting and I also believe he should of been taken alive and tried in a court, which it appears they could of done!
Indeed, just read this and it sums things up nicely....
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.
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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6703 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6703)
This is interesting and I also believe he should of been taken alive and tried in a court, which it appears they could of done!
Indeed, just read this and it sums things up nicely....
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.
It's a great quote (and highly relevant).
I've been a bit depressed by the media (and public) reaction to his murder. Regardless of what he did surely an arrest should have been the aim. To eventually hunt him down and kill him because he killed some (I realise its many) "of ours" smacks of childish tit-for-tat behaviour. I have tried to compare it to someone like Hitler (not necessarily a valid comparison) and although its difficult to feel any sympathy for any of them for us to be able to take the moral high ground i think its neccessary to follow our own rules regarding fair trials etc. especially when the action is taken long after an event and not during an attack/war.
Sorry for the rant. I'll get back to work now
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Indeed, just read this and it sums things up nicely....
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.
I'm no scholar but that doesn't look right at all.
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I'm no scholar but that doesn't look right at all.
It should read.....?
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I'm no scholar but that doesn't look right at all.
It should read.....?
It looks like one of those made up things that people quote when they appear particularly prescient. There was one about Marx tumbling around the web a while ago but I cannot remember it. A poorer example is the one about Marx saying that he could never trust Lenin. But I'm happy to be wrong on this one.
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it is a martin luther king speech but its the first line which is basically wrong, the original says something like 'why should we love our enemies' but the rest is pretty close
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His famous "I have a Bream" from when he was out fishing is often misquoted too.
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it is a martin luther king speech but its the first line which is basically wrong, the original says something like 'why should we love our enemies' but the rest is pretty close
Aha, I should research more and rant less.
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it is a martin luther king speech but its the first line which is basically wrong, the original says something like 'why should we love our enemies' but the rest is pretty close
Aha, I should research more and rant less.
I wouldn't worry I'm sure he wouldn't mind the odd misquote at least you attributed it to him (http://www.martinlutherking.org/plagiarism.html)
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it is a martin luther king speech but its the first line which is basically wrong, the original says something like 'why should we love our enemies' but the rest is pretty close
Aha, I should research more and rant less.
I wouldn't worry I'm sure he wouldn't mind the odd misquote at least you attributed it to him (http://www.martinlutherking.org/plagiarism.html)
I always do my utmost best to give attribution where possible, and also to link to a reliable source, but in this instance where I found it didn't seem to have any verification of authenticity, so I didn't think it worth citing where I read it.
Digging deeper it appears that the first sentence of what I originally quoted is indeed misappropriated to MLK as fatboySlimfast says, the remainder comes from Chapter 4 Section 3 of Strength to Love (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.#Strength_to_Love_.281963.29).
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especially when the action is taken long after an event and not during an attack/war.
Erm, I might have missed something but I don't recall OBL and AQ declaring a ceasefire and/or terms of surrender which would have paved the way for a trial in The Hague....
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I've thought quite long and hard about all this, and whilst my left leaning brain thinks its pretty wrong to kill someone whether or not they were the evil uber master thats been responsible for k's of deaths... Its a hell of a lot 'neater' the way things have been done...
I think Obama has got this one pretty much spot on. Not criticising Pakistan at all, just making it pretty clear they kept them out of the loop for good reason. Not releasing pictures (that would open up a can of worms). Burial at sea - no shrine, place or point of congregation.. No trial - as if it would have any sort of legal duristiction anyway, it would be as bent as any Gitmo based trial.. No prisoner - imagine all the hostage type taking that may occur to free him etc..
Sure there will be conspiracy theorists, but I think there would be whatever was released/done/shown/photographed. To be honest I dont want to see a pic of a guy with half his head missing - I'm happy to take their word for it. It seems that its the press that are driving the need to see a picture etc.. as its a story for them... I think whatever account they released, or however much information they divulged about the wholeprocess there would be some level of conspiracy theory about....
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and now for something different....
Looks like China is trying to re-create the walkway in El-Chorro....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13274947 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13274947)
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Terry Cohen rides again?
Looks like he mght have fallen off his horse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13190124 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13190124)
The business model for "Fresh and Easy" looks remarkably similar to "Pile 'em High, Sell 'em Cheap" according to their US ad campaign.
http://www.freshandeasy.com/WhoWeAre.aspx (http://www.freshandeasy.com/WhoWeAre.aspx)
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Curse of Archer strikes again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13283501 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13283501)
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Last WW I Veteran dies, what an amazing life. RIP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174)
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Last WW I Veteran dies, what an amazing life. RIP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174)
"I'm lucky aren't I, to be surviving all that time," he once told the BBC. "If I had my time over again I wouldn't change a bit of it"
Can't say fairer than that! RIP.
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Re Bin Laden, this is quite good:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-trial (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-trial)
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Re Bin Laden, this is quite good:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-trial (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-trial)
I think this guys reply to the guardian sums it up for me.
Not in my name.
On 7th July I was on the tube next to the one that blew up at Edgware Road. Blood covered innocent passengers tried to escape from the wreckage alongside us, escaping the carnage in the dark and dusty tunnel. I sat on the floor of our carriage, eardrums burst from the blast, thinking of my wife, certain I would shortly be engulfed in flames. I hoped I would die of breathing in smoke before the burning started. I was certain it was over. I cried last tears.
At no point then or since then have I been angry with the bombers. They killed innocent people with misguided and misjudged beliefs that felt like reasons for their actions. Of course they were wrong, but their wrongness came from many places. Their own pysche must have been shaped by their world as much as by their character.
Killing Bin Laden is clean and we understand it. It's simple and therefore attractive. But motivations, drive for action and long term reward for doing 'the right thing' are not. I don't feel avenged by this death, nor those in Iraq. We haven't found our man or our country - they don't exist.
Our man is around us everywhere. The sooner we understand this - really try to see other people in the world with different beliefs as others struggling for truth in whatever way - however misguided, wrong or plain stupid - we will not make much progress.
My beliefs are not because I am religious or a pacifist. Nor am I still in fear - I travel frequently today on the tube.
But I strongly believe Bin Laden should have been tried by civil people with clear thoughts ruling their actions. This was an action that resembled a high-level, high-stakes world playground. Just because we can, does not mean we should. This action has not made me or my children safer. We have punished one man and his family and made ourselves no better than him in the process. We are all poorer as a result.
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:agree:
Must admit I didn't think much to the article, typical rambling blog (a bit like my comments!). It makes a change for me to agree with some of the comments posted on news websites!
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Lawyers back UK Uncut on taxes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/lawyers-back-uk-uncut-on-taxes-2280762.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/lawyers-back-uk-uncut-on-taxes-2280762.html)
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield_city_centre_fancy_dress_shop_window_causing_a_stir_with_osama_bin_laden_costume_1_3364545 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield_city_centre_fancy_dress_shop_window_causing_a_stir_with_osama_bin_laden_costume_1_3364545)
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is there no end to the lads talents?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6468fede-7a8a-11e0-8762-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Lw6Vk8mK (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6468fede-7a8a-11e0-8762-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Lw6Vk8mK)
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Yes! It's the welcome return of KUUUUNTZ KORNERRRRR!!!
Passer-by pushes suicide man off bridge (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8069686.stm#id8060000/8069600/8069686)
Lai Jiansheng, Come on down!!*
* actually. It's Chen Fuchao who "came on down". But, hey. What the hell.
Edit. wtf? That story is 2 years old. yet it's on the front page of the BBC's news video feeds.
I'm glad I'm not paying a licence fee to put money in to fund this mob of charlatans.
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is there no end to the lads talents?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6468fede-7a8a-11e0-8762-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Lw6Vk8mK (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6468fede-7a8a-11e0-8762-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Lw6Vk8mK)
Post the story, not an inaccessible link.
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Apparently what's holding back the economy is the difficulty of firing the workforce, or tories-back-bosses-vs-workers'-rights-shocker. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13361130) Not.
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Fucking get on with it then...
Time waster (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8069686.stm#id8060000/8069600/8069686)
:lol:
This kid will go far (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-13362700) 8)
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Craig David ft Artful Dodger - Re-Rewind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0pW5bYe0AM#)
:spank: :P
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Croatian family discover superglue. (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/863019-miraculous-magnetic-boy-can-carry-pans-on-chest-and-heal-the-world)
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:oops: :guilty: First time I'd seen it though, hilarious. The kid in the other story is quite smart and props to him for doing it.
Haven't you got some documents to sync (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,16770.msg314993.html#msg314993)?
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Terrorist taken out (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html)
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:lol: Saw that yesterday and tweeted it but forgot to link it here.
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Terrorist taken out (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html)
Bloody brilliant
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Honesty is not always the best policy... (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/863144-pippa-middleton-bottom-rage-as-scorned-woman-takes-revenge-on-car) :lol:
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Last WW I Veteran dies, what an amazing life. RIP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174)
"I'm lucky aren't I, to be surviving all that time," he once told the BBC. "If I had my time over again I wouldn't change a bit of it"
Can't say fairer than that! RIP.
My Grandad was a Somme vet. In his regiment (Staffordshire) 400 went out, 4 came back....
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We all win.
http://matadornetwork.com/sports/women-rank-rock-climbing-as-the-sexiest-sport (http://matadornetwork.com/sports/women-rank-rock-climbing-as-the-sexiest-sport)
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Last WW I Veteran dies, what an amazing life. RIP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174)
"I'm lucky aren't I, to be surviving all that time," he once told the BBC. "If I had my time over again I wouldn't change a bit of it"
Can't say fairer than that! RIP.
My Grandad was a Somme vet. In his regiment (Staffordshire) 400 went out, 4 came back....
My God that brings it home.... a horrible statistic.
My Grandad George served in the Navy during both world wars. He was a young kid of 14 or so and cabin boy/assistant to one of the senior officers at Scapa Flow when the German Navy scuttled their ships and was actually present at the meeting between the German officers and their British counterparts on one of the British vessels during the surrender - my uncle has the ship's bell off one of the German ships. He was also a massive City fan (lived on Platt Lane) along with my other Grandad Rodney who was shot in Madagascar and shipped home wounded. They took me to my first games at Maine Road when I was tiny so I'll be thinking of them and my Gran Olive (who used to throw water at Utd fans from the upstairs window in her house in Dalton Avenue which was attached the stadium) tomorrow :)
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My Grandad George served in the Navy during both world wars. He was a young kid of 14 or so and cabin boy/assistant to one of the senior officers at Scapa Flow when the German Navy scuttled their ships and was actually present at the meeting between the German officers and their British counterparts on one of the British vessels during the surrender - my uncle has the ship's bell off one of the German ships. He was also a massive City fan (lived on Platt Lane) along with my other Grandad Rodney who was shot in Madagascar and shipped home wounded. They took me to my first games at Maine Road when I was tiny so I'll be thinking of them and my Gran Olive (who used to throw water at Utd fans from the upstairs window in her house in Dalton Avenue which was attached the stadium) tomorrow :)
Thats a great story! Last one should go in the football thread! :)
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Last WW I Veteran dies, what an amazing life. RIP.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10205174)
"I'm lucky aren't I, to be surviving all that time," he once told the BBC. "If I had my time over again I wouldn't change a bit of it"
Can't say fairer than that! RIP.
My Grandad was a Somme vet. In his regiment (Staffordshire) 400 went out, 4 came back....
My Grandad was on the Somme too, though in the Royal Artillery Corps.
It still amazes me that I'm separated by only two generations from an event that is now receding very rapidly into history. I grew up next door to an lovely old gent called Colonel Osmond who was the only medical officer on a column of British POWs forced marched across some desert by the Turks, enduring terrible conditions and losses (also WW1 obviously).
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Mine was a tank commander in WWII, sadly died in France shortly after the landings. He was one of 3 brothers, none of whom survived through it. If he hadn't had children young I wouldn't have existed.
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On a lighter note, Florida tackles over-population....... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/floridas-bestiality-law_n_860836.html#s277665&title=Josh_Chambers (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/floridas-bestiality-law_n_860836.html#s277665&title=Josh_Chambers)
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...and a slightly warped, but quite humorous take on the bin Laden thing.. http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html#idc-cover (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html#idc-cover)
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Galpinos posted it 1:30 yesterday. Is great though.
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On the WW1 note...
My Great Grandad, Joined the Navy, age 8 (eight!) in 1896, sunk 3 times at Jutland, retired between the wars, was recalled in '39; was on the Warwick when it was sunk in the North Atlantic and finally came ashore in '47. Died in '81. Boy, the stories that guy told. Best bit though, his Grandfather had been a boy sailor at Trafalgar. We're not so far removed from history....
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(http://a2.img.mobypicture.com/ee83fa50f672949c5db522d315faae46_view.jpg)
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=ck0jt.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
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Ta for that, ARFC, put me right off me morning coffee............
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Darwin Award nomination for this easter...
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/friends-watch-as-truck-prank-ends-in-tragedy-20110425-1dtak.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/friends-watch-as-truck-prank-ends-in-tragedy-20110425-1dtak.html)
Determined not to be outdone, Queensland responds to the challenge fwom Victoria, and throws down the guantlet to NSW, Tazzie, SA, and WA.
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<buffoon>
Usually more use if you post the correct link.
<double buffoon>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13389207 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13389207)
</double buffoon>
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What a plank.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/may/15/stephen-hawking-interview-there-is-no-heaven (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/may/15/stephen-hawking-interview-there-is-no-heaven)
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What a plank.
Olympic planking fail? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13408162)
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He's certainly let himself go since he was in "Brideshead Revisited"… (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-13418051)
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It amuses me that the newspapers still can't publish one name in this story even though it's all over the internet - including on many UK based sites.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/twitter/8516843/Super-injunction-footballer-blackmailed-over-affair-with-Big-Brother-contestant.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/twitter/8516843/Super-injunction-footballer-blackmailed-over-affair-with-Big-Brother-contestant.html)
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I feel so sorry for these kids! It is just asking to have them bullied at school.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13417930 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13417930)
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tssk, dont you know anything about Facebook?
you cant 'dislike' anything, although honey and pie might be buggered.
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This could save a lot of lives....
Concrete tents (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13430747)
...not sure how useful it would be pitching one of those underwater as he suggests can be done though!
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Been nice knowing you (http://www.may21-2011.com/) (might grab one of those concrete tents if the end of the world is nigh!).
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What's he going to do when the 21st comes and goes without incident?
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Been nice knowing you (http://www.may21-2011.com/) (might grab one of those concrete tents if the end of the world is nigh!).
:o unless God has upgraded his wrath to missiles, i'm going to go with history and pick up one of these
(http://elitechoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/flying-inflatable-boat.jpg)
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What's he going to do when the 21st comes and goes without incident?
Probably the same thing he did back in September 1994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping) (must feel like a right fucking twat, but I'm sure there was something in the scriptures that he'd overlooked last time and has got right this time :wank:).
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This could save a lot of lives....
Concrete tents (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13430747)
...not sure how useful it would be pitching one of those underwater as he suggests can be done though!
Bit of a bugger to get it back in your pack at the end of the weekend though....
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:lol:
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Been nice knowing you (http://www.may21-2011.com/) (might grab one of those concrete tents if the end of the world is nigh!).
If I can drag myself out of my darkened room.
I'm going back to Savassona. (on Sunday).
"Half past Rome" (Thats pretty In-effable too).
If I can make it past the first move, I'll tell you all about the "Rapture"
At the moment all I know is the "Rupture"
Arse.
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Awesome Bionic hand (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13378036)
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(http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Assailant-Suffers-Injuries.jpg)
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:lol:
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Been nice knowing you (http://www.may21-2011.com/) (might grab one of those concrete tents if the end of the world is nigh!).
Meanwhile Mr Camping, who has been criticised by more mainstream Christians, says he knows "without any shadow of a doubt" that "judgement day" is arriving.
He says he will spend Saturday with his wife, close to a TV or radio.
He clearly hasn't heard....
"THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED"~a CLASSIC from BABA GIL SCOTT-HERON (http://vimeo.com/5571286)
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Well, it's the 22nd in NZ and it will be here in half-an-hour or so and so far no (http://www.shredguitars.com/images/smilies/shitfan.gif) :shrug:
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A good idiot tax going on here:
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/ (http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/)
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For some reason....
Sky news seem to have missed the end of the world...
Perhaps there's been an injuction?
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why such a long face!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-13437279 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-13437279)
and
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-13451965 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-13451965)
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According to a police report
;D
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This CTB thing.
Is anyone else as surprised as I am that there's not been a Scottish news source revealing either this, or any of the other superinjunctions, given the writ of English Law does not run in Scotland, and therefore no such injunction exists north of the border?
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Somebody's ad agency wasn't paying attention...... :slap:
http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/united-airlines-tacky-ad-hits-september-11-sore-spot-20110523-1ezrw.html (http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/united-airlines-tacky-ad-hits-september-11-sore-spot-20110523-1ezrw.html)
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There's a big fucking Tiger on the loose, quick call in the cops.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13501524 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13501524)
:lol:
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It's been bizarre watching the mainstream Australian press obey the injunction but one of your MPs speaking up in parliament seems to have opened the floodgates!
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-technology/british-mp-defies-court-to-name-giggs-in-injunction-row-20110524-1f1n0.html (http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-technology/british-mp-defies-court-to-name-giggs-in-injunction-row-20110524-1f1n0.html)
PS I wonder if our overlords will have to remove this post?
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Been nice knowing you (http://www.may21-2011.com/) (might grab one of those concrete tents if the end of the world is nigh!).
Another date to not put into your diaries (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13516796). :wank:
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Been nice knowing you (http://www.may21-2011.com/) (might grab one of those concrete tents if the end of the world is nigh!).
Another date to not put into your diaries (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13516796). :wank:
Amazing, some great quotes there:
He said sorry for not having the dates "worked out as accurately as I could have".
Over the weekend, he said, he had returned to the scripture and it had "dawned" on him that a "merciful and compassionate God" would spare humanity by compressing the apocalyptic destruction into a shorter time frame. :-\
Asked if he had any advice to offer those who had given away their material wealth in the belief the world was about to end, Mr Camping said they would cope.
:no:
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I missed all this Rapture stuff as I was in Font. What a bunch of cunts!
More importantly, the Danish government has banned Marmite!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/denmark-bans-marmite (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/denmark-bans-marmite)
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Where oh where to post this?
News?
Ultimate t'interweb?
Music/Art/Culture?
TELL US THE TRUTH!! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13516591)
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Not sure where to put this - Audio from survivors of the tornado in Joplin on monday that killed 120:
First Person video of Joplin MO tornado 5/22/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQnvxJZucds#ws)
pretty mental
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Well I'm entirely sure that this is exactly the place for......
Man "blown up like balloon". (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13537084)
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(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/china051811/s_c27_RTR2MK3L.jpg)
Guo Zhongfan, a local community director in Changchun, Jilin province, is praised by community residents after he saved a 22-year-old woman who attempted to kill herself by jumping out of a seventh-floor residential building on May 17, 2011. (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7390299.html)
Apparently jilted by her boyfriend when they were making wedding plans. :oops:
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Man attacked by goose:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9045198.Man_attacked_by_goose_in_Horsham/ (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9045198.Man_attacked_by_goose_in_Horsham/)
This really tickled me...
He tried to escape on his quad bike but the goose landed on his head and he crashed into a tree.
:lol: :lol: :guilty:
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Millionaire singer in "completely out of touch" shocker:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/may/25/adele-tax-grievances (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/may/25/adele-tax-grievances)
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More importantly, the Danish government has banned Marmite!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/denmark-bans-marmite (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/denmark-bans-marmite)
Or have they!?
http://www.uk.foedevarestyrelsen.dk/ImportExport/Legislation_on_import_of_food/Marmite_not_banned_in-Denmark.htm (http://www.uk.foedevarestyrelsen.dk/ImportExport/Legislation_on_import_of_food/Marmite_not_banned_in-Denmark.htm)
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http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/kingstonnews/9053176.Horrified_children_watch_lions_tear_apart_baby_bearcat/ (http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/kingstonnews/9053176.Horrified_children_watch_lions_tear_apart_baby_bearcat/)
Children get a valuable lesson in law of the jungle, and find out lions aren't all Akuna Matata.
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More Vodafone / HMRC wrongness:
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=in_the_back&issue=1289 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=in_the_back&issue=1289)
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Berlusconi's party has been fuc*** up big time in these last administrative elections. lost many mayors and city councils, even where it was very strong before, and he also personally lost half of his own preferences votes (the votes in which you specifically name a candidate).
maybe it won't change the situation in one day, but it's an important step. it's clearly a vote against the person, and that's all that counts now. :punk:
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There are many parallels between Berlusconi and Blatter. I wonder who will cling on the longest!
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Japanese pensioners volunteer to clean up Fukushima plant:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13597670 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13597670)
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Best off giving Barnsley (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-13589803) a body-swerve for the time being then…
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There are many parallels between Berlusconi and Blatter. I wonder who will cling on the longest!
<koff>
Samaranch
</koff>
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13608444 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13608444)
Anyone for a not da newz thread?
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you can always count on the dailypost:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/05/31/ghost-of-john-lennon-taught-north-wales-man-to-play-guitar-55578-28791074/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/05/31/ghost-of-john-lennon-taught-north-wales-man-to-play-guitar-55578-28791074/)
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Everyone who isn't a windowlicker knows that X Factor and Britain's Got Talent are fixed (and that they're just huge cash cows for Cunty Cowell) but it's actually even worse than that......
http://justpaste.it/c8g (http://justpaste.it/c8g)
If anyone is forced to watched this muck by a loved one then I strongly recommend you get them to read this....
So far in the history of BGT and X-Factor, for that matter, no one has ever won who has not been an "invited or preferred" contestant, and it does sadden me that, all those thousands of people, lining up outside, often in the rain and cold, are basically wasting their time. The producers of BGT are not looking for the talented people, they aready have those. The reality is that the producers are hunting out oddities, freaks and, I'm ashamed to say, mentally ill people, to act as amusing fillers in the audition shows. They are nothing more than unpaid extras and they don't even qualify for traveling expenses!
I've mentioned before that Ben Elton's book Chart Throb is a brilliant description of X Factor and it seems he got it bang on.
Nobody with an ounce of intelligence should be supporting this horrible shite by watching it.
:shit:
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Could all be bullshit of course but.......... ;)
http://www.rumblesandgrumbles.com/home/2011/6/2/britains-got-issues.html (http://www.rumblesandgrumbles.com/home/2011/6/2/britains-got-issues.html)
etc
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Today's NO SHIT SHERLOCK award goes to .......
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/02/501364/main20068210.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/02/501364/main20068210.shtml)
:wall:
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What the FUCK?!!!
Westboro Baptist Church protesters slammed by Ku Klux Klan members at Arlington National Cemetery
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/05/31/2011-05-31_westboro_baptist_church_protesters_slammed_by_ku_klux_klan_members_at_arlington_.html#ixzz1O8bQel4o (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/05/31/2011-05-31_westboro_baptist_church_protesters_slammed_by_ku_klux_klan_members_at_arlington_.html#ixzz1O8bQel4o)
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They work for you - MPs line up to assert they believe in the assumption of guilt rather than the presumption of innocence.
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-11/1393 (http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-11/1393)
That this House acknowledges that many other European countries have much better cyclist and pedestrian safety records than the UK; recognises that these countries apply the principle of stricter liability to vulnerable road victims, so that drivers of vehicles that hit cyclists or pedestrians are assumed liable unless they can prove their innocence; believes that this makes drivers more aware of the vulnerability of children, cyclists and pedestrians; notes that, in contrast in UK road traffic personal injury cases, the burden of proof is on the victim to prove the other party was negligent; is aware of research that shows the fatality rate of cyclists aged 10 to 14 involved in collisions with motor vehicles is five times worse in the UK than in the Netherlands and Sweden; and calls on the Government to bring road traffic personal injury legislation into line with workplace health and safety law, product liability law and car passenger protection by adoption of the principle of stricter liability.
Bayley, Hugh Labour Party York Central 16.05.2011
Bottomley, Peter Conservative Party Worthing West 03.02.2011
Campbell, Gregory Democratic Unionist Party Londonderry East 08.03.2011
Caton, Martin Labour Party Gower 02.02.2011
Cooper, Rosie Labour Party West Lancashire 17.02.2011
Corbyn, Jeremy Labour Party Islington North 03.02.2011
Crausby, David Labour Party Bolton North East 10.02.2011
Crockart, Mike Liberal Democrats Edinburgh West 11.02.2011
Dobbin, Jim Labour Party Heywood and Middleton 07.02.2011
Dobson, Frank Labour Party Holborn and St Pancras 12.05.2011
Dodds, Nigel Democratic Unionist Party Belfast North 10.02.2011
Durkan, Mark Social Democratic and Labour Party Foyle 03.02.2011
Foster, Don Liberal Democrats Bath 04.05.2011
George, Andrew Liberal Democrats St Ives 02.02.2011
Gilmore, Sheila Labour Party Edinburgh East 12.05.2011
Godsiff, Roger Labour Party Birmingham Hall Green 04.05.2011
Hamilton, Fabian Labour Party Leeds North East 04.05.2011
Hancock, Mike Liberal Democrats Portsmouth South 03.02.2011
Hopkins, Kelvin Labour Party Luton North 04.02.2011
Horwood, Martin Liberal Democrats Cheltenham 17.02.2011
Huppert, Julian Liberal Democrats Cambridge 04.02.2011
Kennedy, Charles Liberal Democrats Ross Skye and Lochaber 11.05.2011
Leech, John Liberal Democrats Manchester Withington 17.02.2011
Llwyd, Elfyn Plaid Cymru Dwyfor Meirionnydd 10.02.2011
Lucas, Caroline Green Party Brighton Pavilion 12.05.2011
McCrea, Dr William Democratic Unionist Party South Antrim 08.02.2011
McDonnell, Alasdair Social Democratic and Labour Party Belfast South 17.03.2011
McDonnell, John Labour Party Hayes and Harlington 07.02.2011
Mitchell, Austin Labour Party Great Grimsby 09.02.2011
Ritchie, Margaret Social Democratic and Labour Party South Down 08.02.2011
Ruddock, Joan Labour Party Lewisham Deptford 26.04.2011
Russell, Bob Liberal Democrats Colchester 02.02.2011
Shannon, Jim Democratic Unionist Party Strangford 08.02.2011
Sheerman, Barry Labour Party Huddersfield 10.02.2011
Simpson, David Democratic Unionist Party Upper Bann 09.02.2011
Skinner, Dennis Labour Party Bolsover 03.02.2011
Williams, Stephen Liberal Democrats Bristol West 07.02.2011
Wood, Mike Labour Party Batley and Spen 26.04.2011
Wright, Simon Liberal Democrats Norwich South 13.05.2011
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You'll never complain about the standard of your MPs over there after reading this little piece by a newly elected member of the NSW upper house. The debate he was speaking in had nothing to do with climate change but this :wank: stood up and delivered this amazing heap of :shit: anyway! He's a good example of the kind of nutter who can slip under the radar in a PR election (used in all upper house elections in Oz.)
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2742686.html (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2742686.html)
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Some good value out there if anyone's looking for a canny bet.
Oh, hang on though...
http://www.victorchandler.com/vcbet/en-gb/coupons/show/260531200/22889?outcome_id=5258825100&price_decimal=1.01&price_description=1/100&price_id=15626159202 (http://www.victorchandler.com/vcbet/en-gb/coupons/show/260531200/22889?outcome_id=5258825100&price_decimal=1.01&price_description=1/100&price_id=15626159202)
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I loved how WH were offering odds on which player was first to tweet after the CL final ;) what a strange world!
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I loved how WH were offering odds on which player was first to tweet after the CL final ;) what a strange world!
Yeah, there's been a few topical bets floating around lately - when the ash cloud was back a well-known bookie was offering bets on your flight being cancelled and trying to sell it as "insurance"...spin at its best!
While we're on the topic, was interested to see that "Dead Cert Man":
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3605879/Dead-cert-punters-23-winners-on-the-trot.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3605879/Dead-cert-punters-23-winners-on-the-trot.html)
got a spanking on Friday night:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3618209/Tennis-ace-Federer-costs-Dead-Cert-his-shirt.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3618209/Tennis-ace-Federer-costs-Dead-Cert-his-shirt.html)
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I've seen people on Betfair doing similar stuff with massive sums on the tennis but generally trading in-play to get a guaranteed profit as soon as possible. Thing is with tennis (or any 2 horse race type event) it only takes a second for a red hot favourite who's cruising to victory to turn their ankle and retire, game over. If you've got £50k on to try to win £2k that could be a real sickener.
It's a bit like people who take the 1.01 on offer at the end of every football match, hoping that there wont be a last minute goal. Of course, there sometimes is and that £8k to win £80 banker doesn't look so clever.....
:slap:
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Indeed - and IIRC one of Dead Cert man's 1/100 shots (think it was the Isner match) went to 5 sets, wouldn't have wanted to sit through that with £58k riding on it for a £500 reward!
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Squeaky bum time for sure!
Yes "Dead Cert Man" was just a mug punter who got lucky for while with massively odds on "bankers". As with any such strategy, you're only going to get lucky for so long and it only takes one loser to pretty much wipe out your bank.
Just a bit of free publicity for the bookies really as this sort of shit goes down on the exchanges every day.
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http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/9066866.Security_group_in_covert_operation/?ref=mr (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/9066866.Security_group_in_covert_operation/?ref=mr)
I dunno. I'm sure he reminds me of someone… :-\
(http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/resources/images/1674311/?type=display)
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Just fancy that!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/08/texan-mass-grave-no-bodies-found-psychic?CMP=twt_fd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/08/texan-mass-grave-no-bodies-found-psychic?CMP=twt_fd)
A tip from a woman claiming to a be a psychic prompted Texas authorities to swarm a rural home searching for a nonexistent mass grave and up to 30 bodies, including those of dismembered children.
A few hours later it was clear the tip was nothing more than a wild goose chase.
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Ninety gaffes in ninety years. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ninety-gaffes-in-ninety-years-2290148.html)
"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?" Asked of a Scottish driving instructor in 1995.
etc.
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61. "So you're responsible for the kind of crap Channel Four produces!" Speaking to then chairman of the channel, Michael Bishop, in 1962.
(The Independent)
Between 1991 and 1993, Bishop was deputy chairman of Channel 4 television, becoming chairman from 1993 to 1997
(Wikipedia)
if 6 was 9 ? :shrug:
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Aussies get tough on farting camels (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6e633ac8-9126-11e0-9668-00144feab49a.html)
An interesting read. This means I can carbon offset my car mileage by killing four camels a year!
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The phone hacking story gets bigger and bigger.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/08/phone-hacking-scandal-jonathan-rees (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/08/phone-hacking-scandal-jonathan-rees)
:popcorn:
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(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg205/scaled.php?tn=0&server=205&filename=u4rb.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
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That's absolutely disgusting....Judging crochet competitions.
And let's not forget crimes against Star Wars.
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that has got to be a competitor for most bizarre story of the year :clap2:
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The Daily Mail.
Offensive.
BBC executives rule most offensive word in English language is 'a good joke' on the radio at 6.30pmBy Chris Hastings and Steve Farrell
Last updated at 5:28 PM on 6th June 2011
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In a scripted joke, radio presenter Sandi Toksvig said: 'It's the Tories who have put the "n" into cuts'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394382/BBC-executives-say-offensive-word-English-language-good-joke.html#ixzz1OzfqvjaH (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394382/BBC-executives-say-offensive-word-English-language-good-joke.html#ixzz1OzfqvjaH)
Not offensive
The Dambusters dog N****r will be renamed Digger for a modern remake of the iconic film to avoid offending American viewers, it has emerged.
Script writer Stephen Fry, 53, has confirmed that pilot Guy Gibson's faithful black Labrador will be renamed for the forthcoming Peter Jackson movie.
In the original 1955 film Gibson's dog's name was spoken 12 times as a code word to report successful dam breaches to RAF Bomber Command
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002027/Dambusters-dog-renamed-Digger-remake-iconic-film.html#ixzz1OzgXETXU (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002027/Dambusters-dog-renamed-Digger-remake-iconic-film.html#ixzz1OzgXETXU)
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The Daily Mail.
Offensive.
BBC executives rule most offensive word in English language is 'a good joke' on the radio at 6.30pmBy Chris Hastings and Steve Farrell
Last updated at 5:28 PM on 6th June 2011
Comments (303) Add to My Stories Share
In a scripted joke, radio presenter Sandi Toksvig said: 'It's the Tories who have put the "n" into cuts'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394382/BBC-executives-say-offensive-word-English-language-good-joke.html#ixzz1OzfqvjaH (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394382/BBC-executives-say-offensive-word-English-language-good-joke.html#ixzz1OzfqvjaH)
Quelle surprise - the Daily Wail gets upset about what in reality amounts to both halves of fuck all. No Sleep 'til Brooklands covered this the other day in this here article (http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/06/daily-mail-putting-h-in-sit.html) while making a few salient oints along the way such as:
Just think of all the children who would have raced upstairs after dinner that evening to listen to The News Quiz, without an adult to put the joke into context for them. Lord only knows where they'll be in 10 or 15 years' time. It's almost too terrifying to contemplate. I only hope they discover drugs, unprotected sex and knife crime first, rather than face a world of teenagers making faintly risque jokes that you've heard a dozen times before about politics. On Radio 4. Who could bear that?
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:dance1:
ahahah!
for the second time in one month our Prime Minister has been fuc**** up big time this time in an important public referendum.
all his 4 proposed laws have been rejected!!! YYFY!!!
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A bit like Sarkozy in France, I've never met a Frenchman or an Italian who's ever admitted voting for these ... :wank:
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that's true in fact. because we may vote for the wrong person but still have the dignity of lying about it!!! ;D
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:lol:
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Actually. Cameron comes out quite well in this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13771099 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13771099)
(I assume the woman is a fucking hospital administrator, rather than a doctor or a nurse, or someone charged with making people better, or a Prime Minister or Secretary of State or something charged with finding the money/or the will to make it happen?)
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Caught this last night...
Sri Lanka killing fields (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/sri-lankas-killing-fields/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1)
Utter cunts.
I would not recommend watching the programme if you are in anyway squeemish or don't like seeing injured people being bombed, systematic abuse or execution of people with their hands bound. Sickening.
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Today's "what exactly was the fucking point?" award goes to.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/16/asterix-books-brain-injury (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/16/asterix-books-brain-injury)
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Today's "what exactly was the fucking point?" award goes to.......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/16/asterix-books-brain-injury (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/16/asterix-books-brain-injury)
1. There was some of the grant money left over in the pot.
2. If they didn't spend it, they'd have to pay it back.
3. If they paid it back, then those who disburse the funds would think they'd overbid.
4. So would adjust next year's budget accordingly.
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1. There was some of the grant money left over in the pot.
2. If they didn't spend it, they'd have to pay it back.
3. If they paid it back, then those who disburse the funds would think they'd overbid.
4. So would adjust next year's budget accordingly.
Thats the fucking retarded mentality at work at present "Oh we've got to spend some money, what can we buy"
Ridiculous suggestions so far have included...
- Second monitors for those who want them
- Wireless routers for one of the floors (as far as I can tell a wireless network already exists throughout the building!)
- Desktop scanners, despite the existence of two "industrial" networked photocopiers that have scanning/emailing functionality.
...and the biggest ill thought out one so far...
- iPads for saving on paper in meetings! (As Jasper pointed out, £395 buys a LOT of paper & pens). There are already several laptops for use with projectors that work perfectly fine.
Utterly bonkers
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Dog with attitude (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13802940) :punk:
(http://www.thisblogrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dog-police.jpg)
(http://www.thisblogrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dog-at-riots.jpg)
(http://www.thisblogrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/unknowndatedog.jpg)
More pics (http://www.thisblogrules.com/2010/03/dog-that-hasnt-missed-a-single-riot-for-years.html)
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All our drivers are courteous and reliable (http://trevorbaileytravel.web.officelive.com/default.aspx)
Well.
Maybe not all…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13829135 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13829135)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53508000/jpg/_53508538_downviewroadcrash.jpg)
A coach driver has been taken to hospital with minor injuries following a crash which left a trail of destruction along a West Sussex street.
The vehicle was being driven along Downview Road in Worthing when it hit eight parked cars at about 2115 BST on Saturday.
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Man robs bank in the US for $1 to get medical care in jail (http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/620185/shame_of_america%3A_desperate_man_robs_store_for_one_dollar_in_order_to_go_to_jail_to_get_health_coverage/), my what a civilised and advanced place the US is!
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Amazing. Just shows how perverted the system is over there.
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Reebok not better that Accapi when it comes to the SCIENCE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/13858847 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/13858847)
The company had claimed its ZigTech Apparel was "engineered with Celliant fibres" and increased oxygen levels by reflecting infrared light back into the body and allowing capillaries to relax".
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Man robs bank in the US for $1 to get medical care in jail (http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/620185/shame_of_america%3A_desperate_man_robs_store_for_one_dollar_in_order_to_go_to_jail_to_get_health_coverage/), my what a civilised and advanced place the US is!
Some horrific stories in the comments too. Nothing surprises about the good ol USA any more.
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More news about the World's second favourite (http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/festivals/bono-heads-to-mud-fest-after-giving-neighbours-the-bird-2802847.html) modern beat combo front-man, eco-warrior, songsmith, and all-round good egg.
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Last night the bird had moved on from Ms McKeon's front garden, presumably after failing to find what it was looking for.
Got to love a journo with a sense of humour.
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Today's NO SHIT SHERLOCK award goes to .......
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/02/501364/main20068210.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/02/501364/main20068210.shtml)
:wall:
It's already effectively legal in Colorado and California where anyone apparently can get a prescription for medical weed. "Oh Doctor I've got this back pain - Here you go sir, go and get stoned" is pretty much all you have to do.
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Yeah there was a really good article about it a while back.......
FOUND:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/marijuana-legalise-california-drugs-cartels (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/marijuana-legalise-california-drugs-cartels)
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Yeah there was a really good article about it a while back.......
FOUND:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/marijuana-legalise-california-drugs-cartels (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/marijuana-legalise-california-drugs-cartels)
Was in Boulder 2 weeks ago and it's amazing how many dispensaries there are - lots of people I know have their 'scripts. You used to know one of these people very well ;-)
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:lol:
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I've just got back from a trip to Libya, if any of you guys are interested you can check out my images here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fieldproducer/sets/72157627028705302/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fieldproducer/sets/72157627028705302/)
Now time to try and get back to climbing...
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I've just got back from a trip to Libya, if any of you guys are interested you can check out my images here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fieldproducer/sets/72157627028705302/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fieldproducer/sets/72157627028705302/)
Now time to try and get back to climbing...
Really enjoyed looking at those Neil
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Peeping Tom shows some real dedication: http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_18322902 (http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_18322902)
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Never mind your own health. Think about the animals!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-13904895?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-13904895?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
:shrug:
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When I used to smoke at home, our cat would be down like a shot within a few minutes of sparking up a (http://www.shredguitars.com/images/smilies/joint_smoke.gif), he used to settle down right next to me and seemed to very much enjoy it.
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More news about the World's second favourite (http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/festivals/bono-heads-to-mud-fest-after-giving-neighbours-the-bird-2802847.html) modern beat combo front-man, eco-warrior, songsmith, and all-round good egg.
Arfage!
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01930/U2-protest_1930150c.jpg)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/glastonbury/8596024/Glastonbury-Festival-2011-live.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/glastonbury/8596024/Glastonbury-Festival-2011-live.html)
Violent scenes broke out in the crowd at U2's long-awaited Glastonbury debut tonight as a protest against the Irish band's tax status was foiled by security guards.
As Bono and his bandmates took to the Pyramid Stage, activists from direct action group Art Uncut inflated a 20ft balloon emblazoned with the message "U Pay Your Tax 2".
But as the campaigners tried to release it over the 50,000-strong crowd, a team of 10 burly security guards wrestled them to the ground before deflating the balloon and taking it away.
Yeah. Don't dare let anyone suggest people pay their tax, eh, Mister Eavis?
Twat.
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Last night the bird had moved on from Ms McKeon's front garden, presumably after failing to find what it was looking for.
Quality journalism right there!
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Never mind your own health. Think about the animals!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-13904895?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-13904895?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
:shrug:
This is the first time that the service has targeted pet owners
Anyone got any ideas as to why that might be?
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Some amazing comments on that torygraph article
"Bono and his left wing 'one nation, no borders' bulls..t The main reason Northern European countries are in such a stste."
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If you think that's bad, you should read the repellent shite their contributors submit as copy.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100093577/the-science-is-settled-us-liberals-really-are-the-dumbest-creatures-on-the-planet/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100093577/the-science-is-settled-us-liberals-really-are-the-dumbest-creatures-on-the-planet/)
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I assume the family are not getting a refund on the first funeral then?
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_684195.html (http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_684195.html)
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Hidden card charges are to be banned for Rail, Ferry and Air Tickets (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13932299)
Fuck off you thieving cunts :tease: :2thumbsup:
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Hidden card charges are to be banned for Rail, Ferry and Air Tickets (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13932299)
Fuck off you thieving cunts :tease: :2thumbsup:
Sadly they can still charge the charges, just have to be more upfront about it. Though there are plans in the offing to make ALL debit card transactions free for customers.... Ryan-tosspots-air will defy this until the last possible moment of course...
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Excellent. Now do the same with concert tickets.
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Excellent. Now do the same with concert tickets.
I think that's covered too (airlines were a worst example cited..)
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Annoying thing is that using a credit card is supposed to be better from a security point of view and gives you more cover against firms going bust and so on and yet that will be the last type of transaction that they stop charging top whack for (using the "admin costs" excuse of course).
Like tomtom says, this is a step in the right direction but at present it only prevents companies from "hiding" the charges. They can still charge what they like.
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At least its a start. :shrug:
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Causing much hilarity on a social media platform near you:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/28/johann-hari-twitter-plagiarism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/28/johann-hari-twitter-plagiarism)
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Causing much hilarity on a social media platform near you:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/28/johann-hari-twitter-plagiarism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/28/johann-hari-twitter-plagiarism)
#interviewsbyhari is comedy gold.
'I was struggling to comprehend Mr Bruno. The former boxer clearly sensed this as he queried: "You know what I mean, Hari?"'
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#interviewsbyhari is comedy gold.
'I was struggling to comprehend Mr Bruno. The former boxer clearly sensed this as he queried: "You know what I mean, Hari?"'
I quite like this one (http://twitter.com/#!/MrSamWilson/status/85673819523657729)
I walked into the room and there he was. Lionel. 'Hello,' he said, shaking my hand 'Is it me you're looking for?'
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It's all very funny but it's also a bit rich when cunts like Toby Young and Guido Prick are wading in banging on about ethics and journalistic standards! People in glass houses etc. Scumbags.
Hari has been a victim of his own pomposity rather than anything else. So desperate to show himself as some sort of confidant to the great and good he's built his part rather than actually falsifying anything important (or really plagiarising in the real sense of the word). I'm sure he's been fucking mortified by the Twitter stuff whatever he said in his apology (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-my-journalism-is-at-the-centre-of-a-storm-this-is-what-i-have-learned-2304199.html). His ego will have taken a pummelling.
Fact is nobody has ever complained about the content of the "interviews" he has written about them. Yes what he's done is wrong but it hasn't given anybody an incorrect perspective of the views of the person in question so I'm not really bothered.
There's certainly much worse stuff out there masquerading as journalism.
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Unfortunately this is not true.....
He specifically and deliberately misrepresented Antonio Negri by selecting responses given in a different context, not just a different interview...
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Do you mean this?
http://deterritorialsupportgroup.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/hari-karihackery/ (http://deterritorialsupportgroup.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/hari-karihackery/)
Not entirely convinced that the conclusions they've drawn...
To take Negri’s answers to entirely different questions, and recontextualise them around Hari’s agenda, which involves the sustenance of the very systems of power that falsely accused and imprisoned Negri for decades of his life as a political prisoner in Italy, seems especially disingenuous.
... are correct and it's not simple ego massaging as I said.
Either way, as I also said, it's wrong but there's a lot of much worse stuff about mostly written by those who are the keenest to put the boot in in this case.
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I'm inclined to agree with this comment on Knob Face Young's piece (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100094268/busted-johann-hari-is-guilty-of-shoddy-journalism/) in the Torygraph (and yes, the irony of title, I know):
digitaltoast
Yesterday 02:11 PM
Johann Hari is a bit of a paradox, a dichotomy, an oxymoron, or any of several other words that don't quite fit.
On the one hand, in the face of death threats he writes brave articles criticising Islamofascism like http://www.johannhari.com/2011... (http://www.johannhari.com/2011...) and in the next article he'll appear to defend the left in enabling this kind of thing.
I can't quite work out whether he's deeply principled or a complete media whore. Lately, I'm tending towards the latter, but then again he always politely answers points on twitter. It's not like he completely fabricates stuff to deliberately mislead, like, say, James Delingpole, but it's not the right thing to do either. I'm undecided on this one.
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The Republican Party doing great work again here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/us/01minnesota.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/us/01minnesota.html)
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Please do not use your mobile ’phone in this cinema.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
http://t.co/lwje9AZ (http://t.co/lwje9AZ)
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Please do not use your mobile ’phone in this cinema.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
http://t.co/lwje9AZ (http://t.co/lwje9AZ)
Yup - this was played a few weeks back on Mark Comode's 5live movie shizzle.. most amusing..
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Boris Johnson is a cunt:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8614808/Wimbledon-2011-Game-set-and-tax-why-Andy-Murray-will-always-get-clobbered.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8614808/Wimbledon-2011-Game-set-and-tax-why-Andy-Murray-will-always-get-clobbered.html)
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Utter scum:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world)
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Utter scum:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world)
I wonder if this might be the tipping point against the tabloid behaviour by the public. Lets face it, most of us dont give a ferk if Sienna Millers phone gets hacked.. but what the NOTW did here was pretty sick by anyones standards.. as well as giving the family false hope and potentially interfering with an investigation...
I hope the paper and all working there at the time get duly punished...
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However, a rather amusing headline from the Currant Bun..
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week1/16024267.jpg)
Though my fave headline was this following Cale Thistles 1:0 shock cup win over the Mighty Celtic... (not as high profile as Cashley..)
(http://rmccr.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/super_caley_go_ballistic_celtic_are_atrocious-scaled500.jpg?w=395&h=480)
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However, a rather amusing headline from the Currant Bun..
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week1/16024267.jpg)
Though my fave headline was this following Cale Thistles 1:0 shock cup win over the Mighty Celtic... (not as high profile as Cashley..)
(http://rmccr.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/super_caley_go_ballistic_celtic_are_atrocious-scaled500.jpg?w=395&h=480)
Or to quote a “popular” marketing televisual broadcast of the time “when you’ve been through 90 minutes of sheer helll”
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Utter scum:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/04/milly-dowler-voicemail-hacked-news-of-world)
Not wanting to miss out on being total cunts, the Torygraph uses it as an excuse to have a pop at the BBC. Some great comments:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidhughes/100095338/what-is-the-bbc-really-trying-to-do-with-its-milly-dowler-coverage/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidhughes/100095338/what-is-the-bbc-really-trying-to-do-with-its-milly-dowler-coverage/)
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More phone hacking wrongness:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/05/phone-hacking-soham-families-police (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/05/phone-hacking-soham-families-police)
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Caught Hugh Grant being put up head-to-head against Paul McMullen (ex NOWT journalist) on R5 this morning.
Never really had much time for Hugh Grant before but have to take my hat off to him for the comprehensive drubbing he dealt out...(1hr 14mins onwards):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0128l8s/Victoria_Derbyshire_05_07_2011/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0128l8s/Victoria_Derbyshire_05_07_2011/)
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Excellent analysis of the Rebekah Brooks
bullshit statement:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/news-allegations-evidence-2 (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/news-allegations-evidence-2)
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Just in case any of you had missed this, what with all the publicity surrounding the NotW ’phone hacking story.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14024079 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14024079)
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...and here's Hugh Grant's New Statesman article telling the tale of when he "bugged the bugger" Paul McMullen:
http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch (http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch)
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Excellent analysis of the Rebekah Brooks bullshit statement:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/news-allegations-evidence-2 (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/news-allegations-evidence-2)
And so it begins…
http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/media/brands-review-news-of-the-world-ads-after-dowler-accusations/3028129.article (http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/media/brands-review-news-of-the-world-ads-after-dowler-accusations/3028129.article)
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To answer my own question earlier about finding a proxy in order to read the Mail (and other tabloids') website(s)
http://istyosty.com/index.php (http://istyosty.com/index.php)
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...and here's Hugh Grant's New Statesman article telling the tale of when he "bugged the bugger" Paul McMullen:
http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch (http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch)
That was brilliant when I read it the first time, just as good on second reading.
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And so it begins…
http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/media/brands-review-news-of-the-world-ads-after-dowler-accusations/3028129.article (http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/media/brands-review-news-of-the-world-ads-after-dowler-accusations/3028129.article)
And.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-advertising (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-advertising)
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List of hacked victims so far (allegedly!) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/sep/10/phone-hacking-victims-list)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-advertising (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-advertising)
Hope they all pull out and the paper collapses.
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Coulson's on the list :lol:
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Yep, and so is Rebekah....
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Re: phone hacking story: Good interview with Alastair Campbell on Richard Bacon's 5live show today. Between 2 and 2.30
And now there is this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/andy-coulson-phone-hacking (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/andy-coulson-phone-hacking)
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Re: phone hacking story: Good interview with Alastair Campbell on Richard Bacon's 5live show today. Between 2 and 2.30
Yup - I clocked that - good listen..
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Check this statement from Ofcom too:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live#block-48 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live#block-48)
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NI have claimed Rebekah was on holiday at the time of the Milly Dowler phone hacking.
Oh, that's ok then! :slap:
#RebekahBrooksExcuses is gathering pace on Twitter (best so far "I was away being interviewed by Johann Hari") and this is genius:
(http://i.imgur.com/2xKGr.png)
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Check this statement from Ofcom too:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live#block-48 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live#block-48)
Looks like the "fit & proper" thing could be the key to stopping NI from taking control of BSkyB.
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this is genius:
(http://i.imgur.com/2xKGr.png)
:lol: Google's advertising algorithms now have a sense of humor, next thing they'll be sentient!
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It's heating up: Tom Watson calling for James Murdoch to resign and presenting further evidence that Brooks must have known about the hacking (plus allegations of destroying evidence), Campbell called for Rupert Murdoch to answer questions in a Public Inquiry in the 5live interview, advertisers pulling out, NI share price falling, pressure on BSKyB bid...
:popcorn:
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I must say a big 'well-done' to Alice and Jasper for there continual good work on this thread. It's becoming a better resource for certain stories than the usual news sites. Even if it's not commented on the work is appreciated.
That will be the last time my tongue will be anywhere unseemly.
Thanks also to other contributors.
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:popcorn:
:popcorn: Indeed. This just gets more and more sordid as lie is used to cover lie and further truths are revealed.
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Just in case anyone has missed the single most important news story this morning!
http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vZGFpbHltYWlsLmNvLnVr&b=0&f=norefer (http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vZGFpbHltYWlsLmNvLnVr&b=0&f=norefer)
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So, if > 1000 people have had their phone hacked - first its going to take the feds a while to get around to talking to everyone (thats a lot of cups of tea to drink) - second, who here knows someone who had their phone hacked (aside from everyone here being best friends with Sienna Miller of course..)? Going on the X degrees of separation principle its getting to about the right number where someone here will know someone...
It appears that Cameron, Brooks, Coulson and Jeremy Clarkson used to/do regularly gather for dogging dinner... if ever a stray asteroid were to chance upon a place to land....
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:popcorn:
:popcorn: Indeed. This just gets more and more sordid as lie is used to cover lie and further truths are revealed.
And has nobody subjected the Met’s original involvement / investigation into all this to any form of critical analysis yet?
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Just in case anyone has missed the single most important news story this morning!
http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vZGFpbHltYWlsLmNvLnVr&b=0&f=norefer (http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vZGFpbHltYWlsLmNvLnVr&b=0&f=norefer)
Sorry - you are SO wrong...
THIS is the bizzle shizzle:
http://istyosty.com/tmp/cache/c304885881b07f3348545367a3884ca3c3fe15d8.html (http://istyosty.com/tmp/cache/c304885881b07f3348545367a3884ca3c3fe15d8.html)
(http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vaS5kYWlseW1haWwuY28udWsvaS9waXgvMjAxMS8wNy8wNi9hcnRpY2xlLTAtMENFMTk3OTAwMDAwMDU3OC02OTJfNDY4eDUxMS5qcGc%3D&b=0)
A translation...
Prince William's hand shows he can often be stubborn but has an affectionate and loving nature
1 SQUARE PALM
Men with square palms like structure in their lives.
2 STRONG THUMB
Indicates a man with a firm moral code, who knows his own mind.
3 FULL MOUNT OF VENUS
A sign of someone who is loving and passionate.
William is very much his mother’s son and has inherited her affectionate and loving nature. At Eton his generosity was reflected in his affectionate nickname: 'glory hole Windsor'.
4 DROOPING HEAD LINE
The head line drops into the Luna area of the hand, signifying a good imagination. Also a melancholic character.
Despite his cheerful public image, William can be prone to erectile dysfunction.
5 INDEX FINGER SHORTER THAN RING FINGER
Indicates a man struggling to be in control of his ejaculation.
William’ s public ‘face’ successfully masks an occasional lack of confidence.
6 MOUNDS
The presence of these show that nature is a calming influence.
William feels very comfortable living on the rural, wild Welsh island of Anglesey with lots of sheep.
7 SMALL GAP BETWEEN HEAD AND HEART LINE
Indicates an intensely private individual.
William is not a screamer.
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The Canadian thing made the front-page lead in the print edition…
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I must say a big 'well-done' to Alice and Jasper for there continual good work on this thread. It's becoming a better resource for certain stories than the usual news sites. Even if it's not commented on the work is appreciated.
I get it all off Twitter!
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And has nobody subjected the Met’s original involvement / investigation into all this to any form of critical analysis yet?
Lib Dem MP Julian Huppert ( @julianhuppert ) raised this point at PMQs today I think and it's not the first time he's brought it up in parliament.
EDIT - Sorry not at PMQs but during the debate:
http://twitter.com/julianhuppert/status/88598550681894913 (http://twitter.com/julianhuppert/status/88598550681894913)
http://twitter.com/julianhuppert/status/88599042115903488 (http://twitter.com/julianhuppert/status/88599042115903488)
Cambridge MP Julian Huppert - NOTW Hacking - Public Confidence in Police (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agKKt5EPJRU&feature=youtu.be#ws)
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I must say a big 'well-done' to Alice and Jasper for there continual good work on this thread. It's becoming a better resource for certain stories than the usual news sites. Even if it's not commented on the work is appreciated.
I get it all off Twitter!
I assumed you were on the wire.
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I must say a big 'well-done' to Alice and Jasper for there continual good work on this thread. It's becoming a better resource for certain stories than the usual news sites. Even if it's not commented on the work is appreciated.
I get it all off Twitter!
& I get it all off him!
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:lol:
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Though we are more
(http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/mikebernie5.jpg)
than
(http://i2.listal.com/image/207980/600full-the-two-ronnies-photo.jpg)
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I must say a big 'well-done' to Alice and Jasper for there continual good work on this thread. It's becoming a better resource for certain stories than the usual news sites. Even if it's not commented on the work is appreciated.
That will be the last time my tongue will be anywhere unseemly.
Thanks also to other contributors.
:agree: it's been one hell of a day and the linked stuff has all been good reading (well not good, fucking awful really but interesting!)
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& I've heard via the grapevine (i.e. the interweb) that Lloyd's Bank have also pulled advertising in NotW - can't verify it though, and like Ford, don't think it applies to the rest of News International.
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(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/47908000/jpg/_47908287_jex_702243_de27-1.jpg)
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& I've heard via the grapevine (i.e. the interweb) that Lloyd's Bank have also pulled advertising in NotW - can't verify it though, and like Ford, don't think it applies to the rest of News International.
While its good that they're all pulling out - Its a shame that the ££££ influence will probably have the greater effect than any sort of moral reason. Sorry, I forgot we lived in a capitalist society...
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Google. The work of moments.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27666d16-a7ce-11e0-a312-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1RLQkDCaR (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27666d16-a7ce-11e0-a312-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1RLQkDCaR)
Still. It's an ill wind, eh?
Please respect FT.com's ts&cs and copyright policy which allow you to: share links; copy content for personal use; & redistribute limited extracts. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights or use this link to reference the article - http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27666d16-a7ce-11e0-a312-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1RLR4UtHu (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27666d16-a7ce-11e0-a312-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1RLR4UtHu)
Trinity Mirror, which publishes the Daily Mirror, saw its shares jump almost 10 per cent on Wednesday.
(Would that be the self-same Trinity Mirror the Attorney General was laying into yesterday?)
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& I've heard via the grapevine (i.e. the interweb) that Lloyd's Bank have also pulled advertising in NotW - can't verify it though, and like Ford, don't think it applies to the rest of News International.
While its good that they're all pulling out - Its a shame that the ££££ influence will probably have the greater effect than any sort of moral reason. Sorry, I forgot we lived in a capitalist society...
People not buying it will have the same effect - they're more likely to adopt a moral (moralistic?*) attitude, and if people are simply not buying the thing, the advertisers will pull up sticks anyway.
The question I've got now though is should I buy the NotW on Sunday, so I can then join in the boycott thereafter?
:-\
* as it's not stopped its subscribers buying it in the first place.
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q26wgbOMBI4#)
Watch after 6 minutes if you want to see how to boycott.
News International have form. (http://dontbuythesun.co.uk/site/)
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I live in Sheffield.
You know. Where we "know" "drunk" Liverpool fans "caused" the disaster.
(Not restricted just to Wendies, sadly. There's a goodly constituency of Blunts who've swallowed the Spiel fromm Kelvin McKenzie)
Whereas I tended to believe the evidence provided by the First/Interim Taylor Report.
You know. The one which reported on the causes, rather than the second - the one which outlined the recommendations.)
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Peter Oborne rips into Cameron:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100095686/david-cameron-is-in-the-sewer-because-of-his-news-international-friends/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100095686/david-cameron-is-in-the-sewer-because-of-his-news-international-friends/)
:clap2: :clap2:
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This part of story hasn't caught the public's interest as much as hacking the phones of dead kids and servicemen's families (of course) but is actually more damning.
These scumbags are involved in intimidation, perverting the course of justice and probably murder and it definitely goes right to the top.
Scotland Yard chose not to mount a formal inquiry. Instead a senior press officer contacted Brooks to ask for an explanation. She is understood to have told them they were investigating a report that Cook was having an affair with another officer, Jacqui Hames, the presenter of BBC Crimewatch. Yard sources say they rejected this explanation, because Cook had been married to Hames for some years; the couple had two children, then aged two and five; and they had previously appeared together as a married couple in published stories."The story was complete rubbish," according to one source.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-rebekah-brooks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-rebekah-brooks)
Fucking filth. :chair:
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This article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/06/privacy_personal_data_protection_from_the_press/) would suggest that it is not just the NOTW who should be copping a bit of well deserved flak over this.
Daily/Sunday Mail had paid for 1,218 investigations to be undertaken by private investigators on behalf of up to 91 different journalists. The Daily/Sunday Mirror ordered 824 investigations on behalf of up to 70 journalists. The Sunday People ordered 802 investigations involving up to 50 journalists, and the News of the World (the paper of current interest) had ordered 228 transactions of up to 33 journalists.
There is a fair bit more than that in the above as well. Worth a click IMO.
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Interesting.
Yeah it's certainly not just the NOTW who have been doing this. As mentioned in the Hugh Grant article, the insider said it was the Fail who used to be the worst offenders but who cleaned up their act somewhat.
More from Oborne on the subject in this:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/7075673/what-the-papers-wont-say.thtml (http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/7075673/what-the-papers-wont-say.thtml)
Thing is, despite also being scummy fuckers, nobody else has the power and influence over government as NI. Hopefully this will be a case of the bigger they are....
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There's some good shit on the Spectator site:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7075913/camerons-coulson-problems-may-be-getting-bigger.thtml (http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7075913/camerons-coulson-problems-may-be-getting-bigger.thtml)
Loving some of the playground comments from Tories there "this happened when Labour were in power so it's their fault". WTF?! The point is that Coulson was EMPLOYED by Cameron AFTER he knew about all this for fuck's sake you thick wankers. If that's the best argument you have I'd suggest not making a fool of yourself by writing it on the internet.
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Think I might have mentioned this before but BORIS JOHNSON IS A CUNT:
http://torytroll.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-boris-johnson-really-thinks-about.html (http://torytroll.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-boris-johnson-really-thinks-about.html)
Right, I've got to do some work.
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So when are you canceling your Sky subscription Jasper? :tease:
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If you'd not noticed, BSkyB is not
yet fully owned by NI. :P
I'm monitoring the situation and will take whatever action I consider appropriate as events become more clear.......or something. ;)
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This part of story hasn't caught the public's interest as much as hacking the phones of dead kids and servicemen's families (of course) but is actually more damning.
These scumbags are involved in intimidation, perverting the course of justice and probably murder and it definitely goes right to the top.
Scotland Yard chose not to mount a formal inquiry. Instead a senior press officer contacted Brooks to ask for an explanation. She is understood to have told them they were investigating a report that Cook was having an affair with another officer, Jacqui Hames, the presenter of BBC Crimewatch. Yard sources say they rejected this explanation, because Cook had been married to Hames for some years; the couple had two children, then aged two and five; and they had previously appeared together as a married couple in published stories."The story was complete rubbish," according to one source.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-rebekah-brooks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-rebekah-brooks)
Fucking filth. :chair:
This is truly incredible.
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Check out the trail of denials from NI over the years:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/murdoch-executive-phone-hacking-denials (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/murdoch-executive-phone-hacking-denials)
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News Of The World: Der Untergang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtk3yLVUOKg#)
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:lol:
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Apparently phone hacking is "Not such a big deal" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/9531686.stm#id9530000/9531600/9531686) according to the cunt who was stitched up by Hugh Grant :wank: :wank: :wank:
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O2 have pulled their advertising. Apparently Boots are about to.
EDIT - And Sainsbury's....
Meanwhile......
http://www.crownoffice.gov.uk/News/Releases/2006/10/03113905 (http://www.crownoffice.gov.uk/News/Releases/2006/10/03113905)
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O2 have pulled their advertising. Apparently Boots are about to.
So have sainsburys - (just seen your edit J) though as someone on fivelive said, If they pulled the 'screws' from the shelves that would make a difference... but they wont.
Interesting article on BBC yesterday from adversiting exec, saying many advertisers would be in fear of the Guardians (probable) list of those who did advertise that will appear on Monday...
Meanwhile......
http://www.crownoffice.gov.uk/News/Releases/2006/10/03113905 (http://www.crownoffice.gov.uk/News/Releases/2006/10/03113905)
Which ones being done for Perjury! They're as bad as each other :)
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Ha ha. Yeah I know!
This is fascinating. How Brooks and even Murdoch can be prosecuted:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andreas-whittam-smith/andreas-whittam-smith-if-we-dont-act-now-worse-will-follow-2307923.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andreas-whittam-smith/andreas-whittam-smith-if-we-dont-act-now-worse-will-follow-2307923.html)
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Ha ha. Yeah I know!
This is fascinating. How Brooks and even Murdoch can be prosecuted:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andreas-whittam-smith/andreas-whittam-smith-if-we-dont-act-now-worse-will-follow-2307923.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andreas-whittam-smith/andreas-whittam-smith-if-we-dont-act-now-worse-will-follow-2307923.html)
Edit - thats a great read...
"News International, a large and powerful media organisation, Mr Murdoch's company, systematically invades people's privacy through phone hacking, corrupts the police by making large payments to individual officers, and compromises fair trials as a result of publishing reports that are likely to prejudice juries."
BOOM...
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In a brief excursion from the main event, been saying this for years:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14060490 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14060490)
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Apparently NOTW has now dropped all advertising from this weekend's edition.
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Does that get Tesco off the hook then, or is the damage to their rep already done?
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=112463368812803&topic=164 (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=112463368812803&topic=164)
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NoTW to be close down; details of statement from James Murdoch just coming through:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live-coverage#start-of-comments#block-96 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-live-coverage#start-of-comments#block-96)
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Wow. I bet the shredders are working over time.
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Shit me, thats quite a big deal....
I wonder if big Rupes decided it was time to cut off the bad leg...
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...and once the dust has settled (might be a while yet), they launch a Sunday version of the Sun?
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...and once the dust has settled (might be a while yet), they launch a Sunday version of the Sun?
About the beginning of September I reckon.
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This piece posted by various tweeps shows that the Sun and NOTW merged recently
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jun/28/newsinternational-rebekahwade (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jun/28/newsinternational-rebekahwade)
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sunonsunday.co.uk and .com registered on 5th of july.
same scumbags will be running this.
i hope that coulson, brooks et al are brought to justice and that people realise murdoch isn't the person we want running our media.
if you haven't already you should write to your mp. only takes a minute and might save us from further erosion of our already compromised democracy
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/email-your-mp-about-murdoch (http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/email-your-mp-about-murdoch)
and sign this
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/murdoch-deal-petition#petition (http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/murdoch-deal-petition#petition)
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According to C4 Brooks offered her resignation last night but it was turned down by the News Corp board:
http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-to-close (http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-to-close)
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Ha, the newspaper has crumpled.
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Oh yeah, that as well.
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andy coulson to be arrested tomorrow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking)
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andy coulson to be arrested tomorrow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking)
I think there's a lot more to come from all this. Sacking 200 people isn't conducive to making them keep their mouths shut...
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According to C4 Brooks offered her resignation last night but it was turned down by the News Corp board:
http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-to-close (http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-to-close)
what does she have on the Murdochs???
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I'm waiting for the Sunday Sun recruitment ads to appear shortly:
Sleazy low-life journalists required, with experience of phone-tapping, bribing law enforcement officers and willing to work anti-social hours whilst hoping to get a photo of Kate Middleton's tits.
It shouldn't be too hard to find recruits with the requisite qualifications and experience, as a bunch have rather fortuitously just become available on the job market.....
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According to C4 Brooks offered her resignation last night but it was turned down by the News Corp board:
http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-to-close (http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-to-close)
andy coulson to be arrested tomorrow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/andy-coulson-arrest-phone-hacking)
Worth following Nizza (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=3952) ( @fieldproducer ) on Twitter. Fascinating stuff from lots of sources on the inside yesterday. The story is moving so quickly it's really the only way to keep up!
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Lots of people with egg on their faces today (none more so than "Dave") so let's take a minute to laugh at one of them. Step forward serial shit talker and all round halfwit Iain Dale!
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/09/coulsons-accusers-can-go-to-hell.html (http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/09/coulsons-accusers-can-go-to-hell.html)
:lol: :lol:
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I really don't understand the massive excitement and frenzy over this. The story to me looks like, Murdoch's empire is corrupt and very dodgey. Newspaper editors turn a blind eye/actively encourage unethical and illegal journalism. Journalists use unethical, unpleasant and illegal techniques to get stories. The politicians are caught up in this. All of the above are now lying to save their positions of power, whilst publically pretending to be the guardians of truth, democracy and justice. News paper is closed down to be re-opened by the same owners - but with a different name (probably).
I though we'd all guessed that that's just the way things are done round here.
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I really don't understand the massive excitement and frenzy over this. The story to me looks like, Murdoch's empire is corrupt and very dodgey. Newspaper editors turn a blind eye/actively encourage unethical and illegal journalism. Journalists use unethical, unpleasant and illegal techniques to get stories. The politicians are caught up in this. All of the above are now lying to save their positions of power, whilst publically pretending to be the guardians of truth, democracy and justice. News paper is closed down to be re-opened by the same owners - but with a different name (probably).
I though we'd all guessed that that's just the way things are done round here.
Its more interesting than my work today!
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And more interesting than mine! I think I'm grumpily reacting to the glee with which other media are reporting it, as though they are ethically perfect.
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Well I am really enjoying the Murdoch empires in the shitness. It is a rare treat.
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And more interesting than mine! I think I'm grumpily reacting to the glee with which other media are reporting it, as though they are ethically perfect.
Yes, the cannabalistic/mastabatory frenzy with which the media gorges upon itself. Like a great big 24/7 wanking circle...
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Us cynical fuckers who actually take an interest in what's happening with regard to the running of the country already knew all this, of course.
The reason this story is so important is that it has thrust the facts into the limelight where the protagonists didn't want them and has made a lot of people who weren't previously interested in such things look at them. If only for a week or two.
It's also made Cameron look even more of a cunt than usual which is always a good thing.
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I really don't understand the massive excitement and frenzy over this. The story to me looks like, Murdoch's empire is corrupt and very dodgey. Newspaper editors turn a blind eye/actively encourage unethical and illegal journalism. Journalists use unethical, unpleasant and illegal techniques to get stories. The politicians are caught up in this. All of the above are now lying to save their positions of power, whilst publically pretending to be the guardians of truth, democracy and justice. News paper is closed down to be re-opened by the same owners - but with a different name (probably).
I though we'd all guessed that that's just the way things are done round here.
Yeah - the "tabloid media in immoral practices shocker" isn't really a bolt from the blue, however...
Firstly, don't forget that in addition to the above the allegations that the Police are caught up in this as well...namely that payments were made from the NOTW to the MET, and it would appear that the NOTW also performed surveillance on a leading member of the police force.
And, also don't forget that David Cameron decided to hire a man who:
a) Had already resigned from the Murdoch empire over the previous round of hacking allegations
b) Employed and is connected to a private detective suspected of murder
As his Director Of Communications, despite being warned specifically by certain sections of the media (certainly the Editor of the Graun, others too from what I read)!
The PM's attempts to minimise his total lack of judgement on this issue didn't do much to convince me, though I'm not sure about the rest of the electorate.
As Jasper says I always feel like I'm in the tiny minority of the populace who actually pay attention to this sort of stuff.
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And for some more positive news:
Stem-Cell grown windpipe transplant! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14047670)
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Sorry - I've just realised I sound a bit like Sloper in my last post...I'll tone it down a bit!
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And for some more positive news:
Stem-Cell grown windpipe transplant! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14047670)
Wow. :clap2:
Sorry - I've just realised I sound a bit like Sloper in my last post...I'll tone it down a bit!
No no, you were making sense.
On the subject of actually paying attention to this stuff I saw a great tweet yesterday about how the News of The World was a total misnomer unless The World was located up Cheryl Cole's minge. Unfortunately most people do prefer to read that stuff.
That's why it took the Dowler and dead squaddies angle to actually tip this story over the edge. Much as those cases were awful, you'd have thought people would already be "outraged" by what was going on but when it was only about not living in a democracy nobody gave a shit.
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Agree that those revelations were the moral watershed, also Hugh Grant's made a very good point earlier in the week (talk about "things I didn't expect to be typing"!) that with the celebs the "you're in the public eye, you bring it on yourselves, you make money out of publicity" argument was alway the justification, not so the Dowler / 7th July victim's families / dead squaddies' families.
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1. 3T you're no Sloper despite the brown brogue tendencies ;)
2. The Millie Dowler aspect was a game changer in many ways, but for me it left the tabloids regular justification in tatters. E.g. Celebs are in the Public eye so they deserve/like it etc.. There was no justification for that at all, and revealed (which many know) hat the tabs have no morals really.
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Daily Star offices raided by police.
And, importantly, Renault have become the first advertisers to withdraw from all NI titles:
http://www.brandrepublic.com/news/1079229/renault-extends-ad-boycott-news-international-titles/ (http://www.brandrepublic.com/news/1079229/renault-extends-ad-boycott-news-international-titles/)
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Back from the dentists...
Theres going to be quite a trail if they can recover a load of deleted emails..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/08/phone-hacking-emails-news-international (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/08/phone-hacking-emails-news-international)
Its also interesting that the previous hearings (inluding that of the deluded Tommy Smith) have forced NOTW and NI execs to go on the record about missign data, etc.. so they are liable for perjury.. There really is plenty more to come from this.
I also think Cameron has missed a trick this morning to put distance between himself and the matter. He came half clean - and his suggestions for investigations are the right ones (Judge at head of public enq, and two enquiries). But - he stopped short of saying it was a mistake to employ Coulson and to have a close relationship with Brooks. If he had done this and held his hands up and said - look they are friends, but I shouldnt be too close to them, conflicts of interest etc.. then he would be admiiting the correct thing - that he was wrong and made an error of judgement.
But he didnt....
And he was warned on two occasions about Coulson (listening to the Guardian editor on Newsnight last night saying he spoke to him directly about this) though he now says he wasnt...
Investigations now at the daily Star - though that may be linked to the former NOTW royal correspondent who now works there and has been arrested. Also interesting that McClare (sp?) also said in one interview that the Daily Mail were one of the worst (worse than NOTW) users of such methods up to .c2005 when they abruptly stopped... plenty more to come here...
(beat me to it Jasper!)
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For those needing a summary of events Korean Styleee :)
Murdoch pulls the plug on News of the World (NOTW) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dGegvzU9S8U#ws)
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At work we have a weekly Bulletin - someone has created their own this week (HTML formatting removed...)
Bulletin
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Last Ever Issue of the Bulletin
Following the internal scandals that have led to the Departure of almost every member of the Senior Management Team, the University has decided to close the Bulletin. There is apparently no link between the closure of the bulletin and their departure, however the man at the top has admitted that the weekly publication has ‘lost its way’. Members of the University have been continually disappointed by the hopelessly up-beat stories that appear to bear little resemblance to the reality of a miss-managed institution that lacks any leadership from the top and is mired with incompetence below.
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All Money to go to Charity
If we ever find someone to run finance and if they can find any money in our bank accounts, we promise to give it all to charity.
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Forthcoming events
Monday 11 July
Degree ceremonies:
The highlight will be the awarding of Honoury Degrees to all members of SMT that have left – as a symbol of our eternal gratitude.
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Staff Development
How to find a job - Open Meeting
Wednesday 20 July 2011, 12.30 pm to2.00 pm (lunch provided)
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Investigations now at the daily Star - though that may be linked to the former NOTW royal correspondent who now works there and has been arrested. Also interesting that McClare (sp?) also said in one interview that the Daily Mail were one of the worst (worse than NOTW) users of such methods up to .c2005 when they abruptly stopped... plenty more to come here...
(beat me to it Jasper!)
Thought you two were on Twitter?
3T asked about other papers involvements earlier and I pointed towards this article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13092573) (original full list here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6176939.stm), and the Daily Fail do indeed rank top there).
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Did anybody else see Paul McMullan get thrown to the wolves (Coogan, Greg Dyke, Will Self) on Newsnight? Absolutely brilliant! Does he go out of his way not just to sound like an absolute sleazebag but also to look like one too? Suit that looks like it belongs on a con artist, unkempt facial hair, tie half undone with top button open like he was stressed out of his wits before he even came on the show. I'm not one to judge somebody on their appearance but for God's sake man try and do yourself a favour and break free of the 'untrustworthy journalist' stereotype just a little.
Self referring to him as a sort of feral, rat-like sort of creature was a highlight.
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Slackers the point was that the police were raiding the offices of The Daily Star earlier today. A significant move on from *them* only focussing on one paper. I already posted a link to the Spectator article about other rags' involvement in this sort if thing.
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Slackers the point was that the police were raiding the offices of The Daily Star earlier today. A significant move on from *them* only focussing on one paper. I already posted a link to the Spectator article about other rags' involvement in this sort if thing.
I got that, but was linking to the findings that Daily Fail ranked top in the most instances of illegal information that 2T was alluding to.
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Did anybody else see Paul McMullan get thrown to the wolves (Coogan, Greg Dyke, Will Self) on Newsnight? Absolutely brilliant! Does he go out of his way not just to sound like an absolute sleazebag but also to look like one too? Suit that looks like it belongs on a con artist, unkempt facial hair, tie half undone with top button open like he was stressed out of his wits before he even came on the show. I'm not one to judge somebody on their appearance but for God's sake man try and do yourself a favour and break free of the 'untrustworthy journalist' stereotype just a little.
Self referring to him as a sort of feral, rat-like sort of creature was a highlight.
Steve Coogan and Greg Dyke rip into Paul McMullen on Newsnight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV9Sh_R3wB4#ws)
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Interesting opinion piece about Rupert from the NY Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/09/opinion/09nocera.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/09/opinion/09nocera.html?_r=1&hp)
Actually, the NYT has generally been remarkably gentle on Murdoch considering the almost personal vendetta he's been pursuing against them for years now!
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Jon Holmes on 6music:
"David Cameron has just appointed Colonel Gadaffi as his press officer - everybody should be given a 'second chance'."
;D - made me laugh anyway...
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Right, so let me get this straight...
The Guardian warned David Cameron about Andy Coulson and his dodgy connections:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/09/phone-hacking-andy-coulson (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/09/phone-hacking-andy-coulson)
Paddy Ashdown warned David Cameron about Andy Coulson and his dodgy connections:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/09/phone-hacking-andy-coulson-paddy-ashdown (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/09/phone-hacking-andy-coulson-paddy-ashdown)
And he still hired the guy? Not exactly two great references I'm sure you'll agree.
Anyway, this whole aspect reminds me of this quote from The Wire..."hey, you play in dirt - you get dirty" (51 secs):
Bodie lunches with McNulty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_PQQebEjg#)
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(http://heady.co.uk/ou1/sun_on_sunday.jpg)
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Did anybody else see Paul McMullan get thrown to the wolves (Coogan, Greg Dyke, Will Self) on Newsnight? Absolutely brilliant! Does he go out of his way not just to sound like an absolute sleazebag but also to look like one too? Suit that looks like it belongs on a con artist, unkempt facial hair, tie half undone with top button open like he was stressed out of his wits before he even came on the show. I'm not one to judge somebody on their appearance but for God's sake man try and do yourself a favour and break free of the 'untrustworthy journalist' stereotype just a little.
Self referring to him as a sort of feral, rat-like sort of creature was a highlight.
Steve Coogan and Greg Dyke rip into Paul McMullen on Newsnight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV9Sh_R3wB4#ws)
"Hitler was nice to dogs!"
classic coogan.
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One of the best bits of radio satire I have heard for some time concerning the genesis of the Sun on Sunday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b012942n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b012942n)
Starts about 6' 30" in
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Staff have a laugh (http://www.theage.com.au/world/brooks-catastrophe-last-laugh-for-notw-staff-as-final-crossword-takes-aim-at-rebekah-20110711-1h9p4.html)
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Pastafarianism (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523) :lol: :bow:
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More ground shaking news from the phone hacking scandal: Murdoch ditches BskyB bid!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307)
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NewCorp drop bid for BSkyB (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307) (Murdoch still already owns
a large proportion 39.1% of shares in them though)
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bet that fortune he lost buying and selling MySpace is hurting a lot more now. He's not having a good time! Great.
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The rumours are that he may well be going to get rid of all his UK newspaper interests. The idea being that he tries to keep his head down til the shitstorm blows over and goes for ownership of BSkyB again in 2013. It's all interesting stuff to say the least!
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The rumours are that he may well be going to get rid of all his UK newspaper interests. The idea being that he tries to keep his head down til the shitstorm blows over and goes for ownership of BSkyB again in 2013. It's all interesting stuff to say the least!
Interesting strategy, but I can't see it happening - I think / hope that the UK population / media would pick up on a renewed bid and we'd all suddenly remember all that's happening now.
Just watched today's PMQ on the Guardian site and I'm still amazed that Miliband didn't push Cameron harder on the Andy Coulson issue - he let him get away with ducking the issue again with a "this isn't the issue that the public are interested in at the moment" argument.
Thought Gordon Brown was decent during the debate today - I know he's been picked up regarding his selective memory of events re: his relationship / meetings with NI while he was PM, but I thought he managed a good balance of fact, simmering anger, making his point and a decent dash of humour as well.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/13/gordon-brown-news-international-sold-feelings-video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/13/gordon-brown-news-international-sold-feelings-video)
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Sad news for pikies (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/what_now_for_tj_s_1_3575845)
and to justify my reference to pykies...
Joyce Pyke, 83, from Gleadless, told The Star she shops at TJ Hughes every day.
Their cafe allowed smoking inside right up until the law forced them to ban the practice.
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Wow. It's as if those people think the city centre is just that rancid scummy bit round the markets.
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Nice to see that all our efforts have been worthwhile and Afghanistan is now a secure and safe place to live.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/14/kandahar-mosque-bomb-ahmad-karzai (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/14/kandahar-mosque-bomb-ahmad-karzai)
:slap: :no:
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/13/1310580843922/14.07.11-Steve-Bell-on-th-005.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2011/jul/14/cartoon-steve-bell-murdoch-bskyb (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2011/jul/14/cartoon-steve-bell-murdoch-bskyb)
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Full Fact launch PressInquiry.org (http://fullfact.org/blog/press_inquiry_leveson_regulation_accuracy-2820)
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Looks like Piers Morgan is getting dragged into the phone hacking debacle:
http://order-order.com/2011/07/13/britains-got-hacking/ (http://order-order.com/2011/07/13/britains-got-hacking/)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8635674/Hacking-scandal-Piers-Morgan-should-face-questions-say-MPs.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8635674/Hacking-scandal-Piers-Morgan-should-face-questions-say-MPs.html)
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Another Guido fawkes link here:
http://order-order.com/2011/07/12/piers-morgan-knew-award-winning-scoop-was-hacked/ (http://order-order.com/2011/07/12/piers-morgan-knew-award-winning-scoop-was-hacked/)
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Looks like Piers Morgan is getting dragged into the phone hacking debacle:
YYFY!!!
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Let's see if whichever policeman interviews him can make him cry.
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I don't know if I'm being wildly optimistic about a new era of democracy but every time I read or even think about Murdoch's fall from grace I get almost deliriously happy.
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Wonder if this is what Perestroika felt like?
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Not yet..... :popcorn:
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from the guardian a few moments ago - "Eliot Spitzer, the former governor of New York, who resigned over reports that he was a client of prostitution ring, claims at Slate that it is "unlikely" News Corporation's "shoddy ethics were limited to Great Britain". Furthermore, he argues that US law may have been broken on the facts we know already. He refers specifically to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which bars American companies from paying bribes abroad.
So acts in Britain by British citizens working on behalf of News Corp. create liability for News Corp., an American business incorporated in Delaware and listed on American financial exchanges.
Spitzer, who notes that News Corp's behaviour has shocked even "cynical British journalists", adds:
The other reason to investigate here is that there is serious doubt that this matter can be investigated properly in Great Britain. Scotland Yard is already implicated, as is [David] Cameron's government. DoJ [the US department of justice] can and should fill the void."
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Despite my cynism of a few pages back, I'm really starting to enjoy this now. Politicians, corrupt police, dodgey journalists, news corp all getting it is fantastic - now if Alex Ferguson could also be implicated it would be perfect.
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The Met have admitted that last year they employed Neil Wallis the NOTW journalist who has now been arrested. He was paid £24k for "consultancy work" by the department in charge of the first hacking enquiry.
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Bit of light relief as Murdoch biographer and US media expert Michael Wolff gets mistakenly asked about baseball........
A wrong guest to a wrong program, live on BBC World Service (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ibZQABXow#)
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Another bit of shuffling and now it turns out that Rupert and James Murdoch will give evidence to the committee on Tuesday after all:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/14/phone-hacking-scandal-live-coverage#block-67 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/14/phone-hacking-scandal-live-coverage#block-67)
James has dual US/UK citizenship - so maybe they could have forced him anyway?
So, Tuesday will be a proper :popcorn: day for all us 'news' fans. Can't wait!
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rebekah brooks has resigned
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And this time it's been accepted.... :)
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At News International we pride ourselves on setting the news agenda for the right reasons. Today we are leading the news or the wrong ones.
The reputation of the company we love so much, as well as the press freedoms we value so highly, are all at risk.
As Chief Executive of the company, I feel a deep sense of responsibility for the people we have hurt and I want to reiterate how sorry I am for what we now know to have taken place.
Awful grammar for someone that is in charge of a media group!!
I'm sure her severance package will be comfortable and she'll soon pop up somewhere else.
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She was the firewall protecting James; watch as Rupert steps in to defend the heir to his throne. This could get even messier, especially now that various US politicians and the FBI are on the trail too.
:popcorn: I never knew I had such an appetite for popcorn.
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Tuesday will be interesting, particularly after Brown's bizarre ( and dishonest ) grandstanding in the Commons on Wednesday. He and Murdoch will be at each others throats.
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Bigger and bigger..... The end of Fox News?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/15/usa-rupert-murdoch (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/15/usa-rupert-murdoch)
:goodidea:
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Bigger and bigger..... The end of Fox News?
If that happens, and the whole Fox network goes tits up I hope The Simpsons find a new home/network.
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A man with priorities :)
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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/869440-euromillions-winners-colin-and-chris-weir-we-didnt-sleep-all-night (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/869440-euromillions-winners-colin-and-chris-weir-we-didnt-sleep-all-night)
Pic of the couple from Lardgs who won all the cash.
Looks like they plan on spending it on more pies.
Also which one is which?
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At least their ambition only extends to "standing at the foot of Ayers Rock" rather than climbing up it.
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On Newsnight on Wednesday Times journo Daniel Finkelstein was pushing the bogus idea that ordinary people beyond the London media/political circus didn't really care about the phone hacking issue or the political fall out from it. Obviously he would say that (Murdoch does pay his salary after all), but check this out:
http://survation.com/2011/07/survation-progressive-polling-news-corporationnews-international-survey/ (http://survation.com/2011/07/survation-progressive-polling-news-corporationnews-international-survey/)
A very worrying read for Cameron too.
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Just fancy that!
ITV news and NewsCorp, but not the BBC?)
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/sites/default/files/resources/media-engagements-may-2010-present_0.pdf (http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/sites/default/files/resources/media-engagements-may-2010-present_0.pdf)
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Can't be good news for Cameron if the Daily Telegraph is prepared to stick the boot in
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/8640878/Phone-hacking-A-scandal-that-has-diminished-Britain.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/8640878/Phone-hacking-A-scandal-that-has-diminished-Britain.html)
Cometh the hour, cometh the man?
http://tinyurl.com/6xqyorl (http://tinyurl.com/6xqyorl)
(God forbid)
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Cometh the hour, cometh the man?
http://tinyurl.com/6xqyorl (http://tinyurl.com/6xqyorl)
(God forbid)
Think I might have mentioned this before but BORIS JOHNSON IS A CUNT:
http://torytroll.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-boris-johnson-really-thinks-about.html (http://torytroll.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-boris-johnson-really-thinks-about.html)
Worth repeating again!
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Cometh the hour, cometh the man?
http://tinyurl.com/6xqyorl (http://tinyurl.com/6xqyorl)
(God forbid)
Think I might have mentioned this before but BORIS JOHNSON IS A CUNT:
http://torytroll.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-boris-johnson-really-thinks-about.html (http://torytroll.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-boris-johnson-really-thinks-about.html)
Worth repeating again!
He's not alone!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14173150 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14173150)
Foreign Secretary William Hague has defended David Cameron, saying he was "not embarrassed" by the extent of the PM's dealings with News International.
Mr Cameron has met its top executives 26 times in the 15 months since he became prime minister, it emerged.
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To quote Cass Elliot. it's getting better every day…
(Friday)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/15/phone-hacking-met-police-guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/15/phone-hacking-met-police-guardian)
Phone hacking: Met police put pressure on Guardian over coverageTop officers told the Guardian its stories were exaggerated without revealing they had hired former NoW deputy editor
Today
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/17/police-chief-took-10k-spa-break-where-notw-man-was-a-pr-115875-23276448/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/17/police-chief-took-10k-spa-break-where-notw-man-was-a-pr-115875-23276448/)
Britain's most senior policeman accepted a freebie at a top health farm where former News International executive Neil Wallis was a PR.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson stayed for five weeks at Champneys spa, which would have cost more than £10,000.
Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/17/police-chief-sir-paul-stephenson-took-10k-spa-break-where-notw-man-was-a-pr-115875-23276448/#ixzz1SLfNv3Pd (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/17/police-chief-sir-paul-stephenson-took-10k-spa-break-where-notw-man-was-a-pr-115875-23276448/#ixzz1SLfNv3Pd)
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They really don't like him, do they?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100097240/rebekah-brooks-arrested-get-out-of-this-one-dave/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100097240/rebekah-brooks-arrested-get-out-of-this-one-dave/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Rebekah Brooks arrested: get out of this one, Dave
Now Sky News has confirmed that the 43-year-old woman is indeed Rebekah Brooks, disgraced former CEO of News International and member of David Cameron’s social circle. I suppose I should say former member of Dave’s circle, but Andy Coulson was at Chequers soon after he left Number 10 in disgrace, so who knows?
How very, very badly all this reflects on the PM. It will be difficult to vote Tory at the next election.
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One for bonjoy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14175993 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14175993)
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Paul Stephenson resigns. (BBC news, breaking)
Come on Brenda and do the right thing. Strip him of his peerage.
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It's fascinating watching murdickgate happening from over here... Every morning I check the papers and there's another revaltion. It's not mainstream here yet (sorry, in states) but the closure of the notw was topnbilling a few days back.
Stephensons resignation was all the more interesting given his cloaked stab at Cameron along the lines of 'I resigned as I made a bad call about someone working for me - unlike you davo..' referring of course to Coulson. And the timing was interesting - just as daveboy is on a plane to s.Africa for a few days..
I can't see this bringing cameron down, but it will remove any veneer of him being new, different, honest, upright etc.. He's a crony to his pals like most/all politicians..
It'll be interesting to see how this spreads arund the world.. In that now all UK politicians are criticising Murdoch press instead of kissing their arse.. Will the tide start to turn againt Fox in the us? Or the ( much worse) Australian situation?
Interesting times, I can't wait to see what's happened by tomorrow morning here!
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I can't see this bringing cameron down
I wouldn't be so sure. Cameron has many enemies with the Conservative party, and the Telegraph seems to be actively campaigning against him. Last election he failed to get a majority against one of the most unpopular prime minsters in living memory. Follow that with a succession of embarassing U turns and dodgy judgements/decisions, topped by the dreadful way he has dealt with the phone hacking issue ('Where is Dave?' - indeed!).
His position as leader is tenuous. If they replace him the new leader would have a clean break from the Murdoch contagion and would also have time to re-position the party ready for the next election.
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One for bonjoy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14175993 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14175993)
Do you think he'd bee up for something like that then?
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Another one bites the dust
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/john-yates-met-police-resigns-quits (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/john-yates-met-police-resigns-quits)
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Why Newscorp's attempts to play this as only being a "British thing" wont work:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html?_r=1&hp)
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Another one bites the dust
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/john-yates-met-police-resigns-quits (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/john-yates-met-police-resigns-quits)
Hardly surprising after the savaging he got the other day. He's not come out of this very well has he? :lol:
Interesting that when questioned earlier on whether or not Cameron should resign, Boris refused to actually say "no". He can't really be stupid enough to think that he's in with a chance can he? He should be more likely to be one of the next to go!
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/boris-met-police-opportunity (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/boris-met-police-opportunity)
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more allegations of murky goings on in america re fox news
http://www.businessinsider.com/former-fox-news-producer-claims-the-networks-brain-room-led-to-hacking-2011-7 (http://www.businessinsider.com/former-fox-news-producer-claims-the-networks-brain-room-led-to-hacking-2011-7)
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Another one bites the dust
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/john-yates-met-police-resigns-quits (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/john-yates-met-police-resigns-quits)
Best comment I've seen on the interweb is, "it's like watching an England batting collapse"
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Jesus Christ!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare)
News of the World phone hacking whistleblower found deadDeath of Sean Hoare – who was first named journalist to allege Andy Coulson knew of hacking – not being treated as suspicious
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Isn't there a Nye Bevan quote?
"If he knew he is a crook, if he didn't know then he is an idiot"?
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LulzSec have hacked The Sun website... The whole story is just bizarre...
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Another unbelievable day.. When I wake u tomorrow it will all be about the select committee!
Anyway, these two look like their wanking each other off.. Both physically and otherwise.. Dave looks like he's on the vinegar stroke...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/18/1311012770255/James-Murdoch-and-David-C-008.jpg)
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This is worth watching http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/18/a_british_spring_phone_hacking_scandal (http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/18/a_british_spring_phone_hacking_scandal)
Goes over much of what we already know but I thought this part was very interesting! "There are some very interesting figures on News Corp.'s board that are based right here in the United States. For example, Joel Klein, well known to New Yorkers, he was the former schools chancellor. And interestingly, the New York Daily News reports that a business News Corp. acquired just after Klein joined the board is now facing scrutiny, since it deals with schoolchildren's personal data, New York state awarding Wireless Generation a no-bid, $27 million contract. Now parents are questioning whether News Corp. should have access like that to their children. And you also have a familiar name in national politics on the board, Viet Dinh, who is a power attorney here, assistant attorney general under George W. Bush, principal author of the USA PATRIOT Act, the law that, among other things, prompted an unprecedented expansion of government eavesdropping. Interesting connections in the United States, Sarah Smith."
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Yeah the NYT has been doing some serious digging re Newscorp's dealings and dodgy connections in the US (see link above which links to other interesting stories).
Once again it's taken a "public interest" story (the possible hacking of 911 victims) to tip the balance there, just as it did here, and stop it being just another corporate corruption scandal that the politicians would really like to brush under the carpet.
Rupert and his pals are really in the shit.
:popcorn:
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Odds slashed on Cameron to go before next election:
http://www.williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=17348 (http://www.williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=17348)
Apparently they're offering 16/1 on him to resign by the weekend.
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Wine is even better value than we think (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/05/wine-alcohol-strength-understated)
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Everyone's watching the Murdochs. Quick! Fire up the JCB!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/19/nhs-services-open-to-competition (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/19/nhs-services-open-to-competition)
:thumbsdown: :wank: :spank:
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Custard pie in Murdoch's face!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Rupert-Murdoch-And-Son-James-Questioned-By-MPs-Ex-NOTW-Editor-Rebekah-Brooks-To-Appear-Later/Article/201107316033239?lpos=UK_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16033239_Rupert_Murdoch_And_Son_James_Questioned_By_MPs%2C_Ex-NOTW_Editor_Rebekah_Brooks_To_Appear_Later (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Rupert-Murdoch-And-Son-James-Questioned-By-MPs-Ex-NOTW-Editor-Rebekah-Brooks-To-Appear-Later/Article/201107316033239?lpos=UK_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16033239_Rupert_Murdoch_And_Son_James_Questioned_By_MPs%2C_Ex-NOTW_Editor_Rebekah_Brooks_To_Appear_Later)
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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7025 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7025)
Very interesting video. I had no idea The Sun was once the Labour Herald and trade union run before Murdoch got his hands on it.
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Aw diddums.
http://www.metro.co.uk/showbiz/869539-michael-mcintyre-left-feeling-awful-after-other-comedians-jibes (http://www.metro.co.uk/showbiz/869539-michael-mcintyre-left-feeling-awful-after-other-comedians-jibes)
Tell you what Michael. If you want to blub, go home, go into your spare room, burst into tears, and count your money.
Then you can console yourself with the fact you're not BonioOutofU2. Or Sting.
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This Chipping Norton Set mularkey.
David Cameron, Charlie and Rebekah Brooks, Elisabeth Murdoch and Matthew Freud, and Jeremy Clarkson?
That's just the cast list from an episode of Come Dine With Me but with cunts.
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Another unbelievable day.. When I wake u tomorrow it will all be about the select committee!
Anyway, these two look like their wanking each other off.. Both physically and otherwise.. Dave looks like he's on the vinegar stroke...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/18/1311012770255/James-Murdoch-and-David-C-008.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VyW5OzKnboI/TQO8_31sTfI/AAAAAAAAAFA/mbk5_9C-Pes/s1600/florian+schneider+2)
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And in other news http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7041 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7041) Global food bubble on the way? :wank:
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Back on THE news story of the day.
Tomorrow's Private Eye cover.
(spoiler. If you don't want to know - look away now)
http://a.yfrog.com/img740/3539/lkpqg.jpg (http://a.yfrog.com/img740/3539/lkpqg.jpg)
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Quote of the day
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/rebekah-brooks-kemp-bryant (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/rebekah-brooks-kemp-bryant)
Do you get the impression they might just have realized all was not well with their marriage?
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And in other news http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7041 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7041) Global food bubble on the way? :wank:
A vyrus on there - I'm reliably informed.
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Cameron has just refused to answer the question about whether or not he discussed the BSkyB deal with senior NI people SEVEN times.
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And in other news http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7041 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7041) Global food bubble on the way? :wank:
A vyrus on there - I'm reliably informed.
Ah fuck - what's it calleD? I watched that last night so I'll be expecting to get another one.... :slap:
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Well I've just ran a load of online webpage scanners AVG, Norton etc and they can't find anything!
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Sorry not norton but http://www.avgthreatlabs.com/sitereports/domain/?domain=www.realnews.com (http://www.avgthreatlabs.com/sitereports/domain/?domain=www.realnews.com)
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Cameron's in serious trouble now. Alec Baldwin has waded in!
http://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/93679831367159808 (http://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/93679831367159808)
"Oh SHIT! Not Arec Barwdin!!??"
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQx4vWiyrNeqqIMD7BPLNsW-k-MEUO-HPZuX9cEZN87oZBu-gqd7w&t=1)
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Cameron's in serious trouble now. Alec Baldwin has waded in!
http://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/93679831367159808 (http://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/93679831367159808)
"Oh SHIT! Not Arec Barwdin!!??"
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQx4vWiyrNeqqIMD7BPLNsW-k-MEUO-HPZuX9cEZN87oZBu-gqd7w&t=1)
:D. Do you really follow Awec?
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These are strange times indeed.
Truly, we live in the days of miracle and wonder…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14224199 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14224199)
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Private eye landed through my letter box this morning and it would seem GB was probably telling the truth after all regarding his sons medical records!
I can't be arsed typing the whole article but here are some of the most important bits.
"The sun has close and long standing relationship with a female health professional at the hospital in question. It appears very likely that the member of the public is her Husband. A brief internal enquiry by Fife Health Board concluded lamely that there was no evidence that any of it's health worjkers had accessed Fraser's records" and when the Gaurdian questioned the Sun about this, it provoked another round of shouting and swearing fromCaseby. At one point he yelled: "Look! You're fucked. Fife Health Board have just cleared our source" :clap2:
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Bloody hell just got this e-mail from the real news!
Hello,
The Real News website has suffered a hack attack. If you visit the site you will be seeing various warning message. We are investigating the problem and are trying to repel the attack. This a serious and targeted assault on our site. We are working to fix this and identify who is responsible.
In the meantime you can visit our YouTube channel:
TRNN Youtube channel
We will let everyone know when the problem has been corrected.
If you have any information about this attack please message us at contact@therealnews.com
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At last.. For some pro NI balance.. It's ridiculous, Shirley no one wanted to know this... This hacking malarkey must all be made up..
:)
(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week3/16034435.jpg)
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:D. Do you really follow Awec?
Course not. RT'd by @fieldproducer
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Prince Andrew stepping down as Trade Envoy :2thumbsup:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Prince-Andrew-Is-To-Step-Down-As-Trade-Envoy-According-To-Sky-Sources/Article/201107316034756?lpos=UK_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_16034756_Prince_Andrew_Is_To_Step_Down_As_Trade_Envoy_According_To_Sky_Sources (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Prince-Andrew-Is-To-Step-Down-As-Trade-Envoy-According-To-Sky-Sources/Article/201107316034756?lpos=UK_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_16034756_Prince_Andrew_Is_To_Step_Down_As_Trade_Envoy_According_To_Sky_Sources)
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Staggering:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/holiday-in-scambodia-20110720 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/holiday-in-scambodia-20110720)
:chair:
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Hey! I was supposed to be doing some work, but I just spent 2 hours reading old Taibbi articles. Some good stuff to keep me angry about while on holiday.
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In a story that's been mainly overlooked due to Hackgate, I called it totally wrong on the Johann Hari story. Looks as if it goes a lot further than a few inserted quotes!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/12/johann-hari-suspended-independent (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/12/johann-hari-suspended-independent)
Had it been just the original allegations then I still don't think it was such a big deal but it seems that they were the tip of the iceberg......
What odds on him being sacked in a blaze of controversy and then attempting a career reinvention on Celebrity Big Brother?
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Nick Davies of the Guardian interview.
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/21/murdoch_empire_pummelled_by_phone_hacking (http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/21/murdoch_empire_pummelled_by_phone_hacking)
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What odds on him being sacked in a blaze of controversy and then attempting a career reinvention on Celebrity Big Brother?
Or the Sun on Sunday and plagiarising phone messages?
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In a story that's been mainly overlooked due to Hackgate, I called it totally wrong on the Johann Hari story. Looks as if it goes a lot further than a few inserted quotes!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/12/johann-hari-suspended-independent (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/12/johann-hari-suspended-independent)
Had it been just the original allegations then I still don't think it was such a big deal but it seems that they were the tip of the iceberg......
What odds on him being sacked in a blaze of controversy and then attempting a career reinvention on Celebrity Big Brother?
I saw this on the guido site:
http://order-order.com/2011/07/12/hari-lifted-orwell-prize-piece-from-spiegel/ (http://order-order.com/2011/07/12/hari-lifted-orwell-prize-piece-from-spiegel/)
Shame, I always rated him as a columnist/pundit. He's certainly one of the best talking heads on Newsnight Review.
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:agree: It is a shame. Whenever I've seen him on things like dateline London he always gives a good account of himself and certainly seems to know his stuff, so why he feels the need to stoop to this level of journalism I don't know! :shrug:
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The Sun - "Al Q'aeda" responsible for Norway bombings / shootings.
http://twitpic.com/5u6n2l (http://twitpic.com/5u6n2l)
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Some good news from the BBC at last!
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2011/07/23/13684/bbc_calls_time_on_two_pints_of_lager?rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2011/07/23/13684/bbc_calls_time_on_two_pints_of_lager?rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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Never before has the word comedy been so inappropriately used. Apart from My Family.
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Pah.
Youngsters, eh?
Three words.
London. Weekend. Television.
Some more combinations
On Your Neighbour.
Mind your buses.
Love thy Language.
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Never before has the word comedy been so inappropriately used. Apart from My Family.
It's not all good news though.
http://m.chortle.co.uk/index.php?id_news=13669 (http://m.chortle.co.uk/index.php?id_news=13669)
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Not being of a religious bent, can anyone explain to me what shooting scores of unarmed teenagers; or blowing up a city centre; has to do with being a Christian?
Dear Prof. Dawkins,
May I join your club.............
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Not being of a religious bent, can anyone explain to me what shooting scores of unarmed teenagers; or blowing up a city centre; has to do with being a Christian?
Dear Prof. Dawkins,
May I join your club.............
Dollars'll get you donuts it would've been of vital importance had he been a Muslim.
(Why hasn't the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, or the Head of the Russian orthodox church been intervieswed yet btw, to explain none of this is contained within the teachings of Christ, his disciples, or apostles, and that they personally denounce his actions unequivocally?)
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(Why hasn't the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, or the Head of the Russian orthodox church been intervieswed yet btw, to explain none of this is contained within the teachings of Christ, his disciples, or apostles, and that they personally denounce his actions unequivocally?)
Hmm..... Navy Seals, swooping into the Vatican...
Pontif Maximus, doing bird at Guantanamo...
It's a thought...
Not all bad...
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Crazy fuck may have been using dumdum bullets too
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14270655 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14270655)
Thoughts are with the wounded.
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Brooker is spot on:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/24/charlie-brooker-norway-mass-killings (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/24/charlie-brooker-norway-mass-killings)
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I can call him crazy fuck though, because I'm not a newspaper :)
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Some good news from the BBC at last!
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2011/07/23/13684/bbc_calls_time_on_two_pints_of_lager?rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2011/07/23/13684/bbc_calls_time_on_two_pints_of_lager?rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Indeed, apparantly the writer has been working on it for the past 50 years. Impressive given she's only 28...
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An interesting piece by one of Australia's more high-profile muslims. As well as being an academic, Waleed Ali regularly fills in as host of one of Melbourne's major talkback radio programmes.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2808618.html (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2808618.html)
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Reports suggesting Fox voxpop anchor Glenn Beck is comparing Utøya camp to „Hitler Jugend“.
Anyone able to confirm / deny? Certainly a new low for News Corp. if this proves to be true.
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http://www.politicususa.com/en/glenn-beck-norway-hitler-youth (http://www.politicususa.com/en/glenn-beck-norway-hitler-youth) they have the audio from his radio show here!
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How spot on was Brooker!? Beck is doing exactly what Brooker said by calling the killer crazy and the following. "So despite this being a story about an anti-Muslim extremist killing Norwegians who weren't Muslim, they've managed to find a way to keep the finger of blame pointing at the Muslims, thereby following a narrative lead they've been fed for years"
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http://www.politicususa.com/en/glenn-beck-norway-hitler-youth (http://www.politicususa.com/en/glenn-beck-norway-hitler-youth) they have the audio from his radio show here!
Good find super , I was chatting to aLice last night and when he told me that he'd heard that Beck had come out with this 'hitler youth ' shite I couldn't quite believe it ....... And hearing him say it in an almost light-hearted way has confirmed my suspicions that the man is a cunt of the highest order .......
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... and here's a connection you might not have made! :-\
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/26/the-breivik-manifesto-and-the-monckton-connection/ (http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/26/the-breivik-manifesto-and-the-monckton-connection/)
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Are all slapheads repellent callous fucking cunts?*
Or just ones in the cabinet?
(The Ian&Duncan twins. Pig-faced Eric. etc.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14308875 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14308875)
If you're suffering from anger and outrage at the release of a desperately ill man on compassionate grounds - note that, cuntbubble, compassionate grounds, then you are a cunt.
Ah. You're a cunt.
Foreign Secretary William Hague has said a TV appearance by the Lockerbie bomber will intensify the "anger and outrage" at his release from jail.
* Doctor Evil was OK though. But I'm not sure about Duncan Goodhew.
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Reports suggesting Fox voxpop anchor Glenn Beck is comparing Utøya camp to „Hitler Jugend“.
Anyone able to confirm / deny? Certainly a new low for News Corp. if this proves to be true.
I've subsequently been told Beck hasn't been syndicated and/or employed by Fox since the end of June.
Apologies to them if it's been inferred by anyone they are assiociated, or anyone has taken it to mean I've implied they are associated.
There is no connexion.
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Can we please lock all uber-cunts like Beck in solitary confinement and super glue on his ears some kind of infinite loop headset so they have to listen to their own hate spreading voice ad-infinitum, amplified 1000% with a 12hour delay so basically he would have to be silent as a trappist for the rest of his hopefully short hideous life. Too much? :shrug:
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Can we please lock all uber-cunts like Beck in solitary confinement and super glue on his ears some kind of infinite loop headset so they have to listen to their own hate spreading voice ad-infinitum, amplified 1000% with a 12hour delay so basically he would have to be silent as a trappist for the rest of his hopefully short hideous life. Too much? :shrug:
On the contrary, not enough.
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Can we please lock all uber-cunts like Beck in solitary confinement and super glue on his ears some kind of infinite loop headset so they have to listen to their own hate spreading voice ad-infinitum, amplified 1000% with a 12hour delay so basically he would have to be silent as a trappist for the rest of his hopefully short hideous life. Too much? :shrug:
Why would you wish that upon Beck?
Surely it was Dodgy and Cast that deserved that kind of reaction?
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I liked Homegrown........
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Can we please lock all uber-cunts like Beck in solitary confinement and super glue on his ears some kind of infinite loop headset so they have to listen to their own hate spreading voice ad-infinitum, amplified 1000% with a 12hour delay so basically he would have to be silent as a trappist for the rest of his hopefully short hideous life. Too much? :shrug:
Why would you wish that upon Beck?
Surely it was Dodgy and Cast that deserved that kind of reaction?
If you really want to hear me rant vitriol about mid-90s music, just get me started on Ocean Colour Scene. :furious: Glenn Beck is the fucking Mother Teresa compared to the evil those cunts forced upon the worlds ears.
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I can spout crap better than this cunt. If it's madcap plans that will enrage the electorate and never be implemented that Cameron's after then he should give me his "job":
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/11cc97ae-b85f-11e0-b62b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1TOWWJH48 (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/11cc97ae-b85f-11e0-b62b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1TOWWJH48)
:wank:
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I never saw it as the start, it's more a change of heart.......
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so it appears Sarah Paynes mums phone was hacked - the phone given to her by Rebekah Brooks!
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Yep. Just when you thought they couldn't stoop any lower:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/28/phone-hacking-sarah-payne (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/28/phone-hacking-sarah-payne)
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You know, I am almost giddy with genuine excitement.
This is tremendous stuff.
(Wasn't one of the LaGrange points supposed to be the location for the "Very Big Space Telescope"?)
Not this one then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14307987 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14307987)
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Rubbish news for F1 fans: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/29/bbc-sky-share-f1-broadcast-rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/29/bbc-sky-share-f1-broadcast-rights)
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Rubbish news for just about everybody.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14366522 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14366522)
TUC general secretary Brendan Barber said the figures showed that the idea charities can replace direct services currently provided by central or local government was false.
"It sounds great, but in practice the Big Society is looking more and more like a big con," he said.
Didn't repellent slap-headed pig-faced cunt Eric Pickles adopt a similar "plan" when he was the Tory leader of Bradford City Council - cutting both direct funding and discretionary grants to local worthy causes?
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But at least your taxes are going to a good cause (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020801/Britains-youngest-grandparents-Shem-Davies-granddad-29-Kelly-John-granny-30.html?ITO=bookmark-chromeext).
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But at least your taxes are going to a good cause (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020801/Britains-youngest-grandparents-Shem-Davies-granddad-29-Kelly-John-granny-30.html?ITO=bookmark-chromeext).
Please. If you're going to post covered links to the Daily NSDAP, can you use istyosty.com as a proxy (http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vd3d3LmRhaWx5bWFpbC5jby51ay9uZXdzL2FydGljbGUtMjAyMDgwMS9Ccml0YWlucy15b3VuZ2VzdC1ncmFuZHBhcmVudHMtU2hlbS1EYXZpZXMtZ3JhbmRkYWQtMjktS2VsbHktSm9obi1ncmFubnktMzAuaHRtbD9JVE89Ym9va21hcmstY2hyb21lZXh0&b=0&f=norefer).
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Didn't repellent slap-headed pig-faced cunt Eric Pickles adopt a similar "plan"
You forgot "obese". Otherwise perfect.
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But at least your taxes are going to a good cause (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020801/Britains-youngest-grandparents-Shem-Davies-granddad-29-Kelly-John-granny-30.html?ITO=bookmark-chromeext).
Please. If you're going to post covered links to the Daily NSDAP, can you use istyosty.com as a proxy (http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vd3d3LmRhaWx5bWFpbC5jby51ay9uZXdzL2FydGljbGUtMjAyMDgwMS9Ccml0YWlucy15b3VuZ2VzdC1ncmFuZHBhcmVudHMtU2hlbS1EYXZpZXMtZ3JhbmRkYWQtMjktS2VsbHktSm9obi1ncmFubnktMzAuaHRtbD9JVE89Ym9va21hcmstY2hyb21lZXh0&b=0&f=norefer).
It's not a covered link, as you can hover and see what the link is to. 8)
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Who would be the most inappropriate journalist (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/liz-jones-somalia-famine) you could think of to send to cover the famine in Somalia?
:wall:
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Who would be the most inappropriate journalist (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/liz-jones-somalia-famine) you could think of to send to cover the famine in Somalia?
:wall:
Liz Jones isn't actually a real person though is she? I thought it was a cunning ruse by the Fail whereby they had a competition each week to write the most objectionable shite possible and then publish it under that name. The aim being to get Twitter as angry as possible and create loads of click through ad revenue.
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Chavs rejoice!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-14370151 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-14370151)
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saw some footage of Vlad Putin doing a bit of climbing this morning
he's so RAD
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saw some footage of Vlad Putin doing a bit of climbing this morning
he's so RAD RED
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Not sure about rad (or red) but he's certainly gangsta.
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Who would be the most inappropriate journalist (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/liz-jones-somalia-famine) you could think of to send to cover the famine in Somalia?
:wall:
Liz Jones isn't actually a real person though is she? I thought it was a cunning ruse by the Fail whereby they had a competition each week to write the most objectionable shite possible and then publish it under that name. The aim being to get Twitter as angry as possible and create loads of click through ad revenue.
Hence why I use istyosty, and the fact that particular story is on the Guardian website.
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Chavs rejoice!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-14370151 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-14370151)
Snob!
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Who would be the most inappropriate journalist (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/liz-jones-somalia-famine) you could think of to send to cover the famine in Somalia?
:wall:
Liz Jones isn't actually a real person though is she? I thought it was a cunning ruse by the Fail whereby they had a competition each week to write the most objectionable shite possible and then publish it under that name. The aim being to get Twitter as angry as possible and create loads of click through ad revenue.
In that case there's two of them…
http://istyosty.com/tmp/cache/376a232af66e04a2a66b1ef6d3d3e72349d1b70f.html (http://istyosty.com/tmp/cache/376a232af66e04a2a66b1ef6d3d3e72349d1b70f.html)
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The tables are turned and The Sun has been hacked (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14371738) (just a shame its users data thats been taken, but at least it will further serve to tarnish the papers already shitty reputation).
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The tables are turned and The Sun has been hacked (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14371738) (just a shame its users data thats been taken, but at least it will further serve to tarnish the papers already shitty reputation).
Thousands of people who entered competitions on The Sun website have been warned that their personal information may have been stolen
If you lie down with dogs, there's always a chance you'll wake up with fleas.
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(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cia.png)
http://xkcd.com/932/ (http://xkcd.com/932/)
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(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cia.png)
http://xkcd.com/932/ (http://xkcd.com/932/)
:lol: Clocked that the other day, as always XKCD hits the nail with a hammer.
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Just had an object lesson on the realities of cut backs...
The Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital are "Down grading" ALL their admin staff and cutting ALL admin salaries by 20%; at the same time increasing pension contributions (Meaning a "real" cut of 25%).
No senior managers or "Front line staff" are affected (Official reason- "We need to maintain the highest caliber of management").
Result:-
Doctors and consultants up in arms (and, bless 'em, campaigning for an across the board (smaller) % cut, themselves included).
Admin staff leaving in droves, because "it just isn't worth it" and "I'd be better off working in Tescos".
One of the receptionists in the Oncology centre is now a WRVS volunteer, except they can't get enough volunteers and are actively trying to recruit patients and relatives to help.
Doctors and frontline staff facing an extra ten hours per week in admin duties.
We've seen it for ourselves, one secretary between 2, 3 or even 4 consultants. The wrong people getting the wrong appointments, people not getting the treatment they need because of clerical mix-ups.
We're there everyday and the Oncology car park is close to the management carpark. That carpark is full of new Merc's and BMW X5's etc.....
I know this isn't a direct link to a "News" story, but when you read "Frontline staff are protected", think about what that really means...
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Who would be the most inappropriate journalist (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/01/liz-jones-somalia-famine) you could think of to send to cover the famine in Somalia?
:wall:
Excellent dissection of her last piece of retarded bile:
http://www.briankellett.net/brian-kellett-dot-net/2011/8/1/raised-expectations.html (http://www.briankellett.net/brian-kellett-dot-net/2011/8/1/raised-expectations.html)
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Ta for that on Jasper!
That link is going straight on FB...
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More cunt news.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-14372659 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-14372659)
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I guess fiddling expenses isn't one of the "some crimes".
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What's your problem? Our salt of the earth coppers and great British justice system ensure that only the guilty are ever convicted. String em up!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/18/miscarriages-justice-history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/18/miscarriages-justice-history)
.........oh, hang on a minute.
Also, I'll shut up about Liz Jones now but..........
http://twitter.com/LizJonesSomalia (http://twitter.com/LizJonesSomalia)
:)
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Also, I'll shut up about Liz Jones now but..........
http://twitter.com/LizJonesSomalia (http://twitter.com/LizJonesSomalia)
:)
:lol: Thats fucking hilarious
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Also, I'll shut up about Liz Jones now but..........
http://twitter.com/LizJonesSomalia (http://twitter.com/LizJonesSomalia)
:)
:lol: Thats fucking hilarious
I wandered over for a laugh.. but then it made me angry.. Fuck me, jesus fucking christ, double fuck is this **** for real?
@LizJonesSomalia
Somalia has 95% unemployment but no benefits culture whatsoever. It's a remarkably successful system when you think about it.
Fucking A Liz. Thats what Anarchy and no governance at all gives you. Survival of the fittest. You're as fucking nuts as some of those tea party cock suckers. Great system, where the tribal cheifs kill you for accepting food aid, sorry 'infedel food'
And relax Tom.. its all a twitter joke *phew*
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Is that actually her twitter feed? If so, jeysuz fecking christy-bobs she's a retard!
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Is that actually her twitter feed? If so, jeysuz fecking christy-bobs she's a retard!
:slap: Satire meter duely re-calibrated...
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Is that actually her twitter feed? If so, jeysuz fecking christy-bobs she's a retard!
:lol: I think you'll find its a spoof :tease:
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What's your problem? Our salt of the earth coppers and great British justice system ensure that only the guilty are ever convicted. String em up!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/18/miscarriages-justice-history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/18/miscarriages-justice-history)
.........oh, hang on a minute.
I thought our salt of the earth coppers have long believed in cutting out the middle man (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8645485.stm#id8640000/8647300/8647399)?
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Compare and contrast.
No police action as yet, it would appear after making threats.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter)
Immediate police action after making joke.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html)
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Did you know this?
http://bbc.in/64rEPQ (http://bbc.in/64rEPQ)
Australia supplies about 50% of the world's legally-grown opium used to make morphine and other painkillers.
(nb. 2 years old news story)
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Odd my brother just emailed me a link to that today. Must be doing the rounds.
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Yep, Tasmania is the place for opium poppies. I remember being amazed at the expanses of them when I first went on holiday to Tassie back in the '70s.
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Compare and contrast.
No police action as yet, it would appear after making threats.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter)
Immediate police action after making joke.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html)
I can't see Duncan being a violent man. You rise to the top of the Glasgow ice cream trade by using charm and good business sense not breaking people's arms.
#stolenfromtwitter
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:agree: ........ No-one can eat an ice cream with two broken arms .......
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You can with no teeth though.
In other news, government to make illegal thing that nobody thought was illegal legal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14372698 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14372698)
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Compare and contrast.
No police action as yet, it would appear after making threats.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter)
Immediate police action after making joke.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-joke-led-to-terror-act-arrest-and-airport-life-ban-1870913.html)
I can't see Duncan being a violent man. You rise to the top of the Glasgow ice cream trade by using charm and good business sense not breaking people's arms.
#stolenfromtwitter
Interesting though. Was it actually illegal?
If the intended target was outside the UK, then surely he hasn't commited a crime in the UK?
I suspect, no, I know; if someone threatened my daughter...
Well, lets just say I would have done more than make threats, in return.
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In other news, government to make illegal thing that nobody thought was illegal legal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14372698 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14372698)
Funny really,
When I was a student, like every other student/teen I knew; my music collection was on tape and not a single original amongst it.
You could buy blank tapes and dual deck player/recorders, designed for copying tapes.
No-one ever raised any issues about copyright, no-one was ever banged up for having a ripped off record collection.
No-one complained that we were destroying the record industry...
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Very true. Mix tapes, stuff recorded off the radio, whole albums. Everyone did it and as you say, nobody cared.
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I believe its legal to make a copy of any copyrighted material such as CDs and DVDs for "back-up purposes". Not sure whether it actually is prescriptive as to the format, but the font of all disinformation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright,_Designs_and_Patents_Act_1988#Criminal_offences) does not say that its illegal to make copies for yourself, only to pass on/sell copies/broadcast without permission/etc.
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What the fuck is that article about then? :-\
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:shrug: :)
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How come the ratings agencies seem to be able to hold the whole world to ransom when the AAA rating is basically worth fuck all?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/business/aaa-rating-is-a-rarity-in-business.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/business/aaa-rating-is-a-rarity-in-business.html)
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Great Tits!
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What browser do you use?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878)
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(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/correlation.png) (http://xkcd.com/552/)
(I use a mixture of Lynx, IceCat (essentially Firefox), Opera and Chromium (open-source version of Chrome)) :geek:
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I use Mosaic 8)
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"They've got IE6 users with an IQ of around eighty. That's borderline deficient, marginally able to cope with the adult world."
I know it's bollocks but that's fucking hilarious! :lol:
I've been meaning to change my signature for a while...........
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Pull your thumb out Boris (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14380367)
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Important date for your diaries! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-14348910)
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Forget phone hacking, I've found the story of the year so far!
Paul Daniels hospitalised after Sooty hits him in the head with a pizza. (http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity/news/paul-daniels-hospitalised-after-sooty-hits-him-head-pizza58470)
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I know it's bollocks but that's fucking hilarious! :lol:
It is indeed (http://fullfact.org/blog/internet_explorer_browser_iq_story_hoax-2867)
Sadly, it is unclear which browser was predominantly used among people taken in by the story.
:lol:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14388331 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14388331)
Haven't we had this before? Seems strangely familiar.
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Haven't we had this before? Seems strangely familiar.
(http://roashina.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/saw-billy.jpg)
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This mad story presumably (which I think you originally posted slackers):
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_collarbomb/ (http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_collarbomb/)
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Ah yes, I remember that now.
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That's the one I was thinking of. But it all a bit SAW too.
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RE:
No police action as yet, it would appear after making threats.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/aug/02/dragons-den-blackmail-threats-twitter)
It's the internet Duncan. Things might not always be as they seem.....
http://www.newsmediaimages.com/celebrity-article-27124-bannatyne-offers-50k-to-have-innocent-mans-arms-broken/ (http://www.newsmediaimages.com/celebrity-article-27124-bannatyne-offers-50k-to-have-innocent-mans-arms-broken/)
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I saw all that kerfuffle on Twatter yesterday, my first thoughts were that it was if it was real threat then it was pretty stupid of them to use their real name which was quickly surpassed on the stupid scale by Mr B making public threats of violence against alleged Mr.V.
Obviously having loadsa money doesn't not equate to loadsa common sense. :chair:
(http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00587/dj-taylor_587173a.jpg)
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Fucking bollocks!
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Fucking double bollocks!
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What's your problem? Our salt of the earth coppers and great British justice system ensure that only the guilty are ever convicted. String em up!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/18/miscarriages-justice-history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/18/miscarriages-justice-history)
.........oh, hang on a minute.
Our "Salt of the Earth" coppers news, Sunday.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/31/westminster-police-anarchist-whistleblower-advice (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/31/westminster-police-anarchist-whistleblower-advice)
The closest you'll get to a grovelling climbdown, Monday.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/01/grass-war-met-police-anarchists (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/01/grass-war-met-police-anarchists)
Other senior policemen news, today, Wednesday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-14386361 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-14386361)
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Swedish man tries to build nuclear reactor in kitchen! (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/08/swedish-man-arrested-for-kitchen-nuclear-reactor/1?csp=34news) :o
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With regard to that Tory cunt and his death penalty wrongness:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090)
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With regard to that Tory cunt and his death penalty wrongness:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090)
Fantastically stable and well developed site that!
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Swedish man tries to build nuclear reactor in kitchen! (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/08/swedish-man-arrested-for-kitchen-nuclear-reactor/1?csp=34news) :o
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k7q8LfAmUZE/TdgAunT-fVI/AAAAAAAAAC0/fPwRR_N1o1A/s1600/meltdown.jpg)
A week later he wrote about "The Meltdown" on his electric stove, when a heated mixture of americium, radium and beryllium in sulphuric acid exploded as he tried to blend them. See the results, which he called "not so dangerous."
Nutter! like the full ashtray though ;) I suspect that'll get him first...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14388331 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14388331)
Haven't we had this before? Seems strangely familiar.
Love the way the BBCs "Sydney" correspondent claims the story "gripped Australia." I can assure him nobody was paying much attention in Melbourne - it got a mention in the hourly news on various radio stations but not much more and the local talkback radio wasn't exactly flooded with calls about it either!
PS After 16 years away I'd forgotten just how much mutual indifference there was between Sydney and Melbourne.
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Love the way the BBCs "Sydney" correspondent claims the story "gripped Australia." I can assure him nobody was paying much attention in Melbourne
Its called "sensationalism".
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With regard to that Tory cunt and his death penalty wrongness:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090)
Fantastically stable and well developed site that!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/aug/04/government-e-petition-website-crashes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/aug/04/government-e-petition-website-crashes)
:lol:
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With regard to that Tory cunt and his death penalty wrongness:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090)
Fantastically stable and well developed site that!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/aug/04/government-e-petition-website-crashes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/aug/04/government-e-petition-website-crashes)
:lol:
I think I'll start a petition for the government to get a larger server...
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Can you get one from the largerfish corporation?
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Can you get one from the largerfish corporation?
Great idea that, I'll register the domain name now, and steal some of his scams trade.
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With regard to that Tory cunt and his death penalty wrongness:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1090)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14400246 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14400246)
The return of the death penalty heads the list of demands, with dozens of separate campaigns calling for it.
Only dozens? Come on Britain, come on Richard Littlejohn, come on the Dialey Miale! We expect more of you.
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Guardian news you are fucking bastards!
Is nothing sacred?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/04/greyfriars-bobby-story-scam-lure-tourists?CMP=twt_fd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/04/greyfriars-bobby-story-scam-lure-tourists?CMP=twt_fd)
You'll be telling us next Pinky and Perky aren't real!
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The return of the death penalty heads the list of demands, with dozens of separate campaigns calling for it.
Only dozens? Come on Britain, come on Richard Littlejohn, come on the Dialey Miale! We expect more of you.
What's the point in asking "the public" what they think anyway? They're the ones who voted Tory in the first place and then voted Tory in the AV referendum. The population of Britain has proved itself to be mostly turkeys who vote for Christmas because that nice Bernard Matthews David Cameron tells them it's what's good for them. I don't care what a bunch of semi-sentient mongs want debated in parliament.
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Jasper. I love you.
Something else I discovered yesterday. JSA now gives you an initial 8 week threshold in which to apply for your chosen job or career job. If after then you haven't got it, you need to "broaden your search". "Even if it's just working in telesales for a while". NO.FUCKING.THANK.YOU.
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Well start off with a narrow search "Architect work on of fuckoff big impressive buildings", the broaden it to "Architect work on slightly smaller but still pretty fucking impressive buildings".
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I largely agree but, ahem..., you shouldnt forget that...
The return of the death penalty heads the list of demands, with dozens of separate campaigns calling for it.
Only dozens? Come on Britain, come on Richard Littlejohn, come on the Dialey Miale! We expect more of you.
What's the point in asking "the public" what they think anyway? They're the ones who voted Tory and Lib Dem in the first place. The population of Britain has proved itself to be mostly turkeys who vote for Christmas because that nice Bernard Matthews David Cameron and Nick Clegg tells them it's what's good for them. I don't care what a bunch of semi-sentient mongs want debated in parliament.
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Some brevity in a day of financial issues..
http://brokershandsontheirfacesblog.tumblr.com/ (http://brokershandsontheirfacesblog.tumblr.com/)
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I largely agree but, ahem..., you shouldnt forget that...
Fuck's sake I'm not getting into the "Nick Clegg sold out" argument. Suffice to say that if you don't believe that having Lib Dem MPs in the government has prevented the Tories from making an even bigger fuck up of things than they are doing then you're wrong because even the Tories themselves have admitted it. And as you well know Brown made it all but impossible for Clegg to form a coalition with Labour etc etc.
Damn, I bit there didn't I...... :-*
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I largely agree but, ahem..., you shouldnt forget that...
Fuck's sake I'm not getting into the "Nick Clegg sold out" argument. Suffice to say that if you don't believe that having Lib Dem MPs in the government has prevented the Tories from making an even bigger fuck up of things than they are doing then you're wrong because even the Tories themselves have admitted it. And as you well know Brown made it all but impossible for Clegg to form a coalition with Labour etc etc.
Damn, I bit there didn't I...... :-*
I was being a bit wicked ;)
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All-in-all the LibDem's have got a pretty piss-poor deal out of the "coalition" and have been screwed at every possible opportunity.
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All-in-all the LibDem's have got a pretty piss-poor deal out of the "coalition" and have been screwed at every possible opportunity.
Hmm... I agree with Jasper that they have modulated the tories extremes. But I think the Lib Dems have been rather naive - after all they got into bed with Satan, and have now been ferked up the arse by him..
They've been piss poor on the tuition fees thing and wetter than a wet wet thing over the phone hacking and NI thing... in fact the Lib Dems seem to have said ferk all about ferk all for the last few weeks... (new strategy? stay still and hope no-one notices them?)
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new strategy? stay still and hope no-one notices them?
Until the suddenly emerge as "New Lib Dem"
Election Slogan "We've want fuckall to do with those fuckers anymore"
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new strategy? stay still and hope no-one notices them?
Until the suddenly emerge as "New Lib Dem"
Election Slogan "We've want fuckall to do with those fuckers anymore"
or "not wot nic said"
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Please please please let this disgusting excuse for a man get his comeuppance!
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=street_of_shame&issue=1294 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=street_of_shame&issue=1294)
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Hmm... I agree with Jasper that they have modulated the tories extremes. But I think the Lib Dems have been rather naive - after all they got into bed with Satan, and have now been ferked up the arse by him..
My take on it is that they've sacrificed almost everything in exchange for having the referendum on AV (anyone honestly believe the Tories would have had that if they were on their own?), because if that had swung in favour of "Yes" it would have drastically changed the playing field. As it is they were subject to petty slurring by their supposed bed-fellows.
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Hmm... I agree with Jasper that they have modulated the tories extremes. But I think the Lib Dems have been rather naive - after all they got into bed with Satan, and have now been ferked up the arse by him..
My take on it is that they've sacrificed almost everything in exchange for having the referendum on AV (anyone honestly believe the Tories would have had that if they were on their own?), because if that had swung in favour of "Yes" it would have drastically changed the playing field. As it is they were subject to petty slurring by their supposed bed-fellows.
Exactly, they were rogered up the arse by Cameron Satan
(http://www.newsbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/359-cameron-with-satan.jpg)
All Nick Cleggs got to show for it is 50p and a wet arse hole ;)
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Yup, seems like on a single spin of the wheel they bet all their chips on Black , and it came up Blue.
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Not convinced the coalition can last much longer...
Conference season coming up.
Vote of no confidence in Nick?
Tories will be pretty upset about the "Legalise drugs" debate.
Cameroon, Chamomile, the smarmy git with the blue tie, is failing to dodge the Murdoch issue.
Stock market crash...
Public sector cut backs...
Defence cuts...
Economy cooling...
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More news from the repellent slap-headed pig-faced cunt.
http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/newsroom/1960942 (http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/newsroom/1960942)
First public property map - councils could save billions
Published 5 August 2011
Councils and other public bodies should publish asset lists that will help to identify billions of pounds of potential savings and protect frontline services, Communities and Local Government Secretary and repellent slap-headed pig-faced cunt Eric Pickles announced today.
Sorry. Obese repellent slap-headed pig-faced cunt.
And here's where your - i.e. the govvernment's so not yours at all - is being wasted on all that crap like schools, libraries
, fire stations, doctors surgeries, NHS hospitals, and the like.
http://publicassets.communities.gov.uk/ (http://publicassets.communities.gov.uk/)
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Stuff you might not have known, but now do, thanks to Fox News.
Did you know the US President was Black?
http://twitpic.com/61bygw (http://twitpic.com/61bygw)
(More on some of the people invited to his birthday bash.
--GUESTS: Al Sharpton, Patrick Gaspard, UBS Investment Bank President Robert Wolf, FCC Chair Julius Genachowski, Leader Nancy and Paul Pelosi, Secretary Tim Geithner, Secretary Arne Duncan, U.S. Trade Rep. Ron Kirk, Secretary Hillary Clinton, Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Rep./DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, former Virginia Gov. and DNC Chair Tim Kaine, Anita Dunn and Bob Bauer, Robert Gibbs, David Axelrod, David Plouffe, Valerie Jarrett, Michael Strautmanis, Pete Rouse, Bill Daley, Deputy Chief of Staff Alyssa Mastromonaco, Denis McDonough, John Brennan, Rahm Emanuel, Tina Tchen, White House chef Sam Kass, Julianna Smoot, Marty Nesbitt, Eric Whitaker, Linda Douglass, and many more.
--CELEBS: Jay-Z, Hill Harper, Chris Rock, Charles Barkley, Steve Harvey, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, Grant Hill, Gayle King.
)
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Oops :) Now here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,18391.msg327023.html#msg327023).
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Just fancy that!
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/transport-committee/news/bus-report/ (http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/transport-committee/news/bus-report/)
And with subsidies to rural/"uneconomic" bus services routed through local authorities and councils, care to guess upon which particular repellent pig-faced obese slap-headed cunt of a Secretary of State's desk this falls?
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Nothing less than a fulsome and glowing tribute!
Let's face it, it's no less than she would have wanted
http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vd3d3LmRhaWx5bWFpbC5jby51ay9uZXdzL2FydGljbGUtMjAyNDg2Mi9BbXktV2luZWhvdXNlcy1mYWNlLWJhZ3MtY29jYWluZS1CcmF6aWwtYmlkLWJvb3N0LXNhbGVzLmh0bWw%3D&b=0&f=norefer (http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vd3d3LmRhaWx5bWFpbC5jby51ay9uZXdzL2FydGljbGUtMjAyNDg2Mi9BbXktV2luZWhvdXNlcy1mYWNlLWJhZ3MtY29jYWluZS1CcmF6aWwtYmlkLWJvb3N0LXNhbGVzLmh0bWw%3D&b=0&f=norefer)
(http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vaS5kYWlseW1haWwuY28udWsvaS9waXgvMjAxMS8wOC8xMS9hcnRpY2xlLTAtMEQ1RkQxRDkwMDAwMDU3OC01NTdfNjM0eDQzNi5qcGc%3D&b=0&f=norefer)
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Nothing less than a fulsome and glowing tribute!
Let's face it, it's no less than she would have wanted
http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vd3d3LmRhaWx5bWFpbC5jby51ay9uZXdzL2FydGljbGUtMjAyNDg2Mi9BbXktV2luZWhvdXNlcy1mYWNlLWJhZ3MtY29jYWluZS1CcmF6aWwtYmlkLWJvb3N0LXNhbGVzLmh0bWw%3D&b=0&f=norefer (http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vd3d3LmRhaWx5bWFpbC5jby51ay9uZXdzL2FydGljbGUtMjAyNDg2Mi9BbXktV2luZWhvdXNlcy1mYWNlLWJhZ3MtY29jYWluZS1CcmF6aWwtYmlkLWJvb3N0LXNhbGVzLmh0bWw%3D&b=0&f=norefer)
(http://istyosty.com/b/?u=Oi8vaS5kYWlseW1haWwuY28udWsvaS9waXgvMjAxMS8wOC8xMS9hcnRpY2xlLTAtMEQ1RkQxRDkwMDAwMDU3OC01NTdfNjM0eDQzNi5qcGc%3D&b=0&f=norefer)
What? I didn't get puntered for that crass, insensitive, and inappropriate outburst? You fuckers are trying to goad me into scraping not only the concrete underneath the barrel, but digging out pieces of the upper mantle, aren't you?
It's almost like it's a challenge…
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Having analysed the UKB punter matrix, I have come up with a simple four step plan to punterdom.
1. Say you love Mick Ryan*, repeatedly.. in fact make him a special love card, take a picture of it and send it in. Actually that would probably get you wadded.
2. Say quick draws should ALWAYS be left in routes reagardless, in fact they should be attached with superglue maillons..
3. Buy a land-rover and drive up and down the stanage causeway lots of times telling MTB'ers to fuck off and making you tube videos of squashing nice flowers/SSSI type places etc.. Then regail your exploits on here shamlessley.
4. Copy and paste a few UKC forum replies to posts here. AND never back down from what they say.
*if that fails replace with David Cameron.
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never back down
Now that I ***CAN*** manage!
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never back down
Now that I ***CAN*** manage!
No you can't ;)
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never back down
Now that I ***CAN*** manage!
No you can't ;)
OK.
Adjusts dress, (before I hasten to add, lleaving, gemtleman as I am, mindful of the directive in the urinals|); does that grabbing chest shimmy thing. Takes deep breath, & grabs lapels
You can fuck off you fuiking fucker, from the school of the fuckn
Oh i really can't be arsed. The pub's still open.
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Precisely *pfffft* (sound of bottle being opened) glug glug glug glug. aaaahh.
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This is just plain odd.
http://www.nme.com/news/massive-attack/58583 (http://www.nme.com/news/massive-attack/58583)
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This is just plain odd.
http://www.nme.com/news/massive-attack/58583 (http://www.nme.com/news/massive-attack/58583)
Ohh! Ain't that all gone a bit "Pete Tong"....
(Uh,Um, Sorry.... strange mood today...)
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Franky, not a great deal of sympathy…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14523805 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14523805)
A bull named Mouse has claimed its third victim, killing a man during an amateur event at the traditional August fiesta in the region of Valencia.
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The Mouse that
Roared Gored...
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Warren Buffett - The Super-Rich must pay more tax:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html)
Quite.
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The Mouse that Roared Gored...
Now that, I am going to steal!
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Waterfights appear to be illegal now (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/15/essex-water-fight-blackberry-messenger) :wall:
(Slightly more sinister is that the police were monitoring Blackberry Messenger services in the first place, who do they think they are, journalists?).
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The use of water-based weaponry should be reserved solely for croud control. If people get it in their heads that water cannons are a fun toy our police force will be defenseless!
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The phone hacking scandal is back. Much as Coulson, Cameron, the Murdochs et al would like it to just go away.
This is big:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/16/phone-hacking-now-reporter-letter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/16/phone-hacking-now-reporter-letter)
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Taking
the a piss (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14572094)
I can fully sympathise, been in similar situations many times due to drinking at airport bars, don't bother asking to use the toilet, just whip-in.
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BBC need to sort their shit out when it comes to numbers and accurate reporting (http://justanotherbleedingblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/once-twice-three-times-headline.html)
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Marina kicks fuck out of Sally Bercow and Cunty Cowells Freakshow of Doom:
The X Factor is merely a light entertainment show, and is the answer to precisely nothing, unless it's the inquiry: "What apocalypse-hastening reality format shits a gazillion quid into Simon Cowell's bank account every week?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2011/aug/18/celebrity-simoncowell (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2011/aug/18/celebrity-simoncowell)
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Just clocked this on another forum (copy & pasted links to pictures/wordpress don't work), fucking shocking....
Spanish police smack a girl in the face and beat up a photographer. Sickening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJCgUu5mtE&feature=player_detailpage#t=83s
copy/paste as you can't embed timed youtube vids here...
If you see the video from the beginning, you can actually see what happens. Here's a translation of what is heard
At 0:40 the girl says "VIOLENTOS, QUE SOIS UNOS VIOLENTOS, CABRONES!" -> "Violent, you violent bastards"
0:50, she says "DEFENDED MIS DERECHOS" -> "Defend my rights!"
While this happens, most of the people you see on the side of the street where the policemen are are "peregrinos" (pilgrims) that came to attend the visit of the Pope. They're all around the city, and they usually carry flags and those orange bags which were given to them.
1:12: "Despacito, despacito, nada de peregrinos" (slowly, slowly, nothing about pilgrims), says the policeman.
Then he says "es una niña, es una niña, a ver quien.. (?¿)", "it's a girl, it's a girl, let's see who.. (can't understand that part)"
"Peregrinos, nada, ni caso" -> "ignore the pilgrims"
At 1:29, the girl says "What happens?", the policeman replies "What happens?", and then hits the girl. You can see the flashes from the photographer who takes these pictures:
http://danielnuevo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/MG_5698.jpg (http://danielnuevo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/MG_5698.jpg) http://danielnuevo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/MG_5699.jpg (http://danielnuevo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/MG_5699.jpg)
When the policeman sees the flashes, he runs to them and starts hitting him. According to his blog, he hits him and says "GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING CAMERA". Another policeman crosses the street too, maybe to get another one who is recording. "Fuck off" can be heard, and then "Vete, vete, corre!" ("Go away, go away, run".
The man approaches the photographer and says he's got everything recorded, he says he's been hit on his neck and left unconscious. "They're following anyone who was protesting and hitting them, one by one".. "oh, crap, but what about a CAMERA? PRESS?"
So, this is what the girl did. Saying they were violent bastards, and I guess the policemen proved her right.
There have been more police violency stories, not only from the police but from the pilgrims to the protesting people. The day of the authorized anti-JMJ protest, pilgrims were blocking the ways that where authorized to the protest to try to stop it. The police did nothing to prevent the pilgrims to confront the protestors... but they finally violently hit the protestors.
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The right has chosen its scapegoat – the single mum. And she will bleed
The danger of the single woman and the threat she poses to civilisation is an ancient narrative
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/19/single-mothers-uk-riots-tanya-gold (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/19/single-mothers-uk-riots-tanya-gold)
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Fun times ahead! Is Capitalism Doomed? :shrug:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7172 (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7172)
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America "too stupid" to have earthquake: (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/us-not-intelligent-enough-to-have-washington-earthquake%2c-say-experts-201108244228/)
;D
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Sticky & messy:
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/10104781/bull-semen-spill-causes-scare-closes-u-s-highway/ (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/10104781/bull-semen-spill-causes-scare-closes-u-s-highway/)
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alerted the fire department he had lost a part of his load
very good.
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How convenient, perhaps if you'd done your job quicker the time-limit won't have elapsed :slap: :wank: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14651735)
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Man who registered Amy Winehouse charity name strikes back at family
Martin McCann, who bought the domain name AmyWinehouseFoundation.com, has condemned attempts to 'pressure' him into handing over website. What a :wank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/24/amy-winehouse-charity-name (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/24/amy-winehouse-charity-name)
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I know I shouldn't of but it did make me laugh aswell :sorry:
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Man who registered Amy Winehouse charity name strikes back at family
Martin McCann, who bought the domain name AmyWinehouseFoundation.com, has condemned attempts to 'pressure' him into handing over website. What a :wank:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/24/amy-winehouse-charity-name (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/24/amy-winehouse-charity-name)
Also "not killed by drugs" according to the inquest.
That's made more than a few amateur social commentators* look fucking stupid then, hasn't it?
*i.e. me
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At Edinli today, the television was showing BBC News 24 - where, apparently in Green Sq. Tripoli there had been "Celebrity Shooting" according to the presentron.
Which caused me to opine in a text to Mr Sharpe it sounded like some "Sick Reality Show"
Fine, quoth he. Start with Piers Moron, Simon Cowell, and Toby Young.
Which got me thinking about something I'd said long ago - Alan Partridge's pitch to get a new show "Monkey Tennis" didn't go far enough in presagig the "Reality TV" boom.
So, coming soon to a thread near you - "Celebrity 633 Squadron"
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Not exactly fresh news, but still affecting hundreds of thousands, some video footage from a car caught in the tsunami in Japan earlier this year
Tsunami Japanese inside a car! 津波日本 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQqmp9OOE1E#ws)
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Check your packs of Nurofen people.
This is **NOT** a joke
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14666291 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14666291)
Only packs of Nurofen Plus are affected Consumers are being warned to check packs of Nurofen Plus after it emerged that thousands could mistakenly contain antipsychotic drugs.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has issued a safety alert following reports that some batches of Nurofen Plus contained Seroquel XL 50mg instead.
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More seriously, lets hope there isn't a batch of antipsychotic drugs out there which will do little more than ease an aching back.
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I just got wind of this story..
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Air-hose-prank-victim-suffered-6in-tear-bowel/story-13206631-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Air-hose-prank-victim-suffered-6in-tear-bowel/story-13206631-detail/story.html)
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Must have really put the wind up him.
That's what happens when things get blown out of all proportion.
Sorry.
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Must have really put the wind up him.
That's what happens when things get blown out of all proportion.
Sorry.
No, its fine, the story really blew me away. Its all too often these days that you get news thats over inflated. This story nearly made me split my sides, and I bet its burst a few bubbles in the OHS world.. I wonder if they used lubricant...
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Its a wonderful word, "somehow".
and somehow a hose went into his bottom.
So many questions posed. So much intrigue. All from one little word.
Sorry for not including any gut-wrenching puns.
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US get some weather:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14695511 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14695511)
"its a virtual projectile"
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Looks like the US reporters take hurricanes as seriously as we take conkers.
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Somerset, your parks are safe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-14689055 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-14689055)
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Anybody else reckon they won't have a leg to stand on if they take it to a tribunal?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14705328 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14705328)
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<guffaw!>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-14707307 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-14707307)
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US trying to develop biological weapons (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/08/30/wikileaks-how-us-army-attempted-to-buy-deadly-biological-weapons/)
They clearly don't subscribe to the The Biological Weapons Convention (http://www.unog.ch/80256EE600585943/(httpPages)/04FBBDD6315AC720C1257180004B1B2F?OpenDocument) :wank:
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<guffaw!>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-14707307 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-14707307)
Reminiscent of the parachuting for charity scam which costs the NHS £13 for every £1 it raises in donations (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10476298).
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:lol: Perhaps all "charity" events should be subjected to such scrutiny. :-\
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:lol: Perhaps all "charity" events should be subjected to such scrutiny. :-\
Don't put me off - I'm off here in half an hour!
http://www.stlukeshospice.org.uk/events/supporters-events/events_calendar/lashings-world-xi-v-the-crab-cc- (http://www.stlukeshospice.org.uk/events/supporters-events/events_calendar/lashings-world-xi-v-the-crab-cc-)
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Viva Skegvegas!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-14723194 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-14723194)
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Not a good week for crap East coast water themed fairground attractions:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-14707032 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-14707032)
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Drug Policy in Portugal : The Benefits of Decriminalizing Drug Use (http://www.soros.org/initiatives/drugpolicy/articles_publications/publications/drug-policy-in-portugal-20110829/drug-policy-in-portugal-20110829.pdf)
From the foreword...
Portugal proves that decriminalization does not increase drug use. To the contrary,
it has demonstrated that humanitarian and pragmatic strategies can, in fact, reduce drug
consumption, addiction, recidivism, and HIV infection. Portugal gives us hope that we can
overcome the fear-driven “war on drugs” propaganda that paralyzes societies and hinders
reform. Portugal proves that strategies based on respect for human dignity and the right to
health can increase public safety.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/melbourne-named-worlds-most-liveable-city-2346125.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/melbourne-named-worlds-most-liveable-city-2346125.html)
Well I suppose by the standards of big cities it's OK but I live just down the road and I can actually think of several cities I'd rather live in. :shrug:
Anyway, the only thing that really counts to Melbournites is that they are above Sydney on the list!
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Drug Policy in Portugal : The Benefits of Decriminalizing Drug Use (http://www.soros.org/initiatives/drugpolicy/articles_publications/publications/drug-policy-in-portugal-20110829/drug-policy-in-portugal-20110829.pdf)
From the foreword...
Portugal proves that decriminalization does not increase drug use. To the contrary,
it has demonstrated that humanitarian and pragmatic strategies can, in fact, reduce drug
consumption, addiction, recidivism, and HIV infection. Portugal gives us hope that we can
overcome the fear-driven “war on drugs” propaganda that paralyzes societies and hinders
reform. Portugal proves that strategies based on respect for human dignity and the right to
health can increase public safety.
Thanks for posting that, I work in addiction research and hadn't even realised that Portugal had decriminalised drug use. Interesting reading..
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Not a problem :clap2:
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:lol: Perhaps all "charity" events should be subjected to such scrutiny. :-\
Don't put me off - I'm off here in half an hour!
http://www.stlukeshospice.org.uk/events/supporters-events/events_calendar/lashings-world-xi-v-the-crab-cc- (http://www.stlukeshospice.org.uk/events/supporters-events/events_calendar/lashings-world-xi-v-the-crab-cc-)
Mind you, their stall was selling stuff not entirely unadjacent to these things…
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gD8Wn3tmB9c/TI8zqQa-VfI/AAAAAAAABn8/xEVe-FEkXiI/s400/multi_colours.jpg)
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Who'd'a thunk, eh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-14762173 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-14762173)
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O tempora, o mores.
http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/11656/nasa-wants-you-to-know-apollo-18-is-not-real/ (http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/11656/nasa-wants-you-to-know-apollo-18-is-not-real/)
(But weren't all the moon landings faked anyway?)
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(But weren't all the moon landings faked anyway?)
I have Lord Lucan living in the cellar. He's aged really well all things considered..
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(But weren't all the moon landings faked anyway?)
I have Lord Lucan living in the cellar. He's aged really well all things considered..
Can't have!!
I saw him buying a fish supper in the local chippy, from a guy who calls hinself "The king", while riding a horse called Sugar lump (or something similar, didn't quite catch what he said). And I swear Gaddafi was waiting in the car outside...
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Naa, Gadaffi's doing some tiling for Jasper.. it could be a bloated out Michael Jackson instead?
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Human beings in "poor grasp of relative risk" shocker:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/05/september-11-road-deaths (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/05/september-11-road-deaths)
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http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/09/05/man-charged-over-vehicle-found-on-snowdon-55578-29367033/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/09/05/man-charged-over-vehicle-found-on-snowdon-55578-29367033/) :wall:
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http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/09/05/man-charged-over-vehicle-found-on-snowdon-55578-29367033/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/09/05/man-charged-over-vehicle-found-on-snowdon-55578-29367033/) :wall:
Impulsive apparently (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14793859) :wank:
But not the first time its been tried (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-14793169)
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Impulsively made a list of 50 things to do before I die and then went and did one of them. Big :wank:
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Impulsively made a list of 50 things to do before I die and then went and did one of them. Big :wank:
Having a big :wank: made your bucket list?
37. Breathe
42. Eat
47. Blink
50. Big wank.
oh, ok. I'm back up to speed now.
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DON'T MENTION THE IMMIGRANTS!
(I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/09/02/john-cleese-claims-london-is-no-longer-an-english-city-115875-23391257/))
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You know how they used to do those heartwarming "an finally" tales on "News at Ten"?
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html (http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html)
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You know how they used to do those heartwarming "an finally" tales on "News at Ten"?
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html (http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html)
Aaaaah :o ....... the eyes , the eyes .......
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It's all a bit "Deliverance" ain' it...
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Nah big :wank: is No.1. I've been stuck on No.1 since puberty! This is why I have not climbed anything harder than V10 :slap:
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You know how they used to do those heartwarming "an finally" tales on "News at Ten"?
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html (http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html)
Aaaaah :o ....... the eyes , the eyes .......
That picture of the sordid lift is brilliant.
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New NH$ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSy3zbavGFs#ws)
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Thats :lol: and :o at the same time
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News from 10 years ago.
Remind me again, what's Liam Fox's role in the Cabinet and job in government?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1134042.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1134042.stm)
PS. Guess which way he voted at this division?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14817816 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14817816)
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Remind me again, what's Liam Fox's role in the Cabinet and job in government?
He's Secretary of State for Justification of Defence Cuts isn't he?
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Remind me again, what's Liam Fox's role in the Cabinet and job in government?
He's Secretary of State for Justification of Defence Cuts isn't he?
Oh Goody!
A religious nut in charge of the armed forces...
Fancy a Crusade anyone?
:badidea: :thumbsdown: :sick:
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Remind me again, what's Liam Fox's role in the Cabinet and job in government?
He's Secretary of State for Justification of Defence Cuts isn't he?
Oh Goody!
A religious nut in charge of the armed forces...
Fancy a Crusade anyone?
:badidea: :thumbsdown: :sick:
Hey hardly seems like a religious nut. From what I can gather, he is against abortion due to his faith, which is not unusual. And he's is charge of defence. Surely if he is pro life, he is going to find it hard to justify a 'crusade'.
It is as bad as saying. Oh he's muslim so he must be a terrorist. :shrug:
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Hey hardly seems like a religious nut. From what I can gather, he is against abortion due to his faith, which is not unusual. And he's is charge of defence. Surely if he is pro life, he is going to find it hard to justify a 'crusade'.
Haven't checked anything but if he's "pro-life" then he shouldn't have anything to do with "defence", let alone a "crusade".
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Hey hardly seems like a religious nut. From what I can gather, he is against abortion due to his faith, which is not unusual. And he's is charge of defence. Surely if he is pro life, he is going to find it hard to justify a 'crusade'.
Haven't checked anything but if he's "pro-life" then he shouldn't have anything to do with "defence", let alone a "crusade".
I suspect he is a hypocrite like the rest of us. :)
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Quelle surprise! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/airports-wasting-billions-needless-security)
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http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Rhinos-fighting-back-with-own-muti-20110907 (http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Rhinos-fighting-back-with-own-muti-20110907)
A good solution! Wish it did more than cause illness and convulsions though.
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Remind me again, what's Liam Fox's role in the Cabinet and job in government?
He's Secretary of State for Justification of Defence Cuts isn't he?
Oh Goody!
A religious nut in charge of the armed forces...
Fancy a Crusade anyone?
:badidea: :thumbsdown: :sick:
Hey hardly seems like a religious nut. From what I can gather, he is against abortion due to his faith, which is not unusual. And he's is charge of defence. Surely if he is pro life, he is going to find it hard to justify a 'crusade'.
It is as bad as saying. Oh he's muslim so he must be a terrorist. :shrug:
OK, toes trod...
Was meant to be a quasi humorous and ironic comment...
Came across as a Queasy humourless and moronic comment...
:guilty:
Still...
Not much good history came out of mixing religion with politics.
Oh, and I became a pacifist the hard way...
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Hey hardly seems like a religious nut. From what I can gather, he is against abortion due to his faith
It all depends on your point of view. To me, someone who is opposed to abortion because of their faith is a religious nut.
Surely if he is pro life, he is going to find it hard to justify a 'crusade'.
Yeah cos pro lifers never kill anyone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tiller).
I suspect he is a hypocrite like the rest of us. :)
I agree however I suspect he's probably an even bigger hypocrite than most of us because he's an MP and a Tory and has weasled his way up to the position he is now in.
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I suspect he is a hypocrite like the rest of us. :)
I agree however I suspect he's probably an even bigger hypocrite than most of us because he's an MP and a Tory and has weasled his way up to the position he is now in.
but not enough of a hypocrite to be deputy PM... ;)
OT but vagely related.. I cant remotely fathom that the probably Republican presidential candidate (and in with a chance given Obama's ratings) is a creationist and climate denyer.. Never mind crusades, this is dark ages...
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"It's political correctness gone mad!"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-14820797 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-14820797)
Oh hang on. It would appear it isn't.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/racial-harassment-charge-golliwog-window (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/racial-harassment-charge-golliwog-window)
It appeared in the only window visible from the home of O'Donnell and her husband, Stephen, the couple said, after the disagreement over planning permission got out of hand.
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It would appear we can't even call "these people" [sic] "Jungle Bunnies" any more.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2035184/Tory-councillor-sacked-teaching-job-grammar-school-calling-rioters-jungle-bunnies.html#ixzz1XOZIye6H (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2035184/Tory-councillor-sacked-teaching-job-grammar-school-calling-rioters-jungle-bunnies.html#ixzz1XOZIye6H)
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I don't know what's more depressing, the comments or the fact those comments are "liked".
Go on, admit it - you've all been on there making them up and giving the "up arrow" sign in an attempt to smear the Daily Mail and their readership, haven't you?
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Even more predictable is the most extreme little Englanders all live.. err...somewhere else.
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Even more predictable is the most extreme little Englanders all live.. err...somewhere else.
We've already done John Cleese, haven't we?
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What's he been saying? I thought he was an old skool liberal.
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http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/Tourist-kicks-stink-smell-dead-fish-fishing/story-13251463-detail/story.html (http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/Tourist-kicks-stink-smell-dead-fish-fishing/story-13251463-detail/story.html)
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Something you'd like to tell us George? No? Thought not......
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3315998.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3315998.htm)
:guilty:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/12/vickers-report-banks-given-until-2019 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/12/vickers-report-banks-given-until-2019)
So - ring-fencing of the banks then.
Can see why there is a political agenda for this, but am struggling to find any of the detail of the proposals.
Anyone know if when T3 Banking PLC gets split into T3 Retail Bank and T3 Investment Bank, what's to stop me passing the profits from the retail arm to the investment arm to try and generate more money for my shareholders?
Any what if the investment bank arm makes a humungous amount of money - I'm not allowed to plough that money bank into the retail arm to lend / shore up reserves / provision debt?
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am struggling to find any of the detail of the proposals.
Full original report (http://bankingcommission.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ICB-Final-Report.pdf)
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Students to get fucked over when repaying University fees :badidea: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-14836202)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14872365 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14872365)
Parts of Scotland are being battered by storm-force winds as the remnants of Hurricane Katia hit the UK.
(http://www.ilike.org.uk/images/deep-fried-mars-bar.jpg)
:whistle:
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What's he been saying? I thought he was an old skool liberal.
Don't mention the immigrants! (I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it…)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/02/john-cleese-claims-london-is-no-longer-an-english-city-115875-23391257/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/02/john-cleese-claims-london-is-no-longer-an-english-city-115875-23391257/)
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Let's hear it for the European Union Council:
Hip Hip - Hooray
Hip Hip - Hooray
Hip Hip - Hooray
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14882146 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14882146)
I for one, was worried Mick Jagger and Cliff Richard might be down to their last £25m.
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Separated at birth?
(http://www.neweurasia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/borat-high-five.jpg)
"Shoot the Boer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo#)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55120000/jpg/_55120630_012758762-1.jpg)
"Throw the Jew Down the Well" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14896710)
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Some good news.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/13/news-corporation-shareholders-complaint (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/13/news-corporation-shareholders-complaint)
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Ban on sagging pants :lol:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/fashion/30baggy.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/fashion/30baggy.html)
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'Palin was seen snorting cocaine off the top of a 55-gallon drum while snowmobiling'
Anyone else see this? Conjures an image totally beautiful in its perfection, distilling everything that I find awful about her.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/15/sarah-palin-alleged-cocaine-marijuana-book (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/15/sarah-palin-alleged-cocaine-marijuana-book)
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Until I looked at the link and the second line, the first thing I thought of was Michael Palin.
Now there's an image for you.
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'Palin was seen snorting cocaine off the top of a 55-gallon drum while snowmobiling'
Anyone else see this? Conjures an image totally beautiful in its perfection, distilling everything that I find awful about her.
I'm pretty fond of this image:
(http://voxrox.co/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/George-Osborne-with-Natalie-Rowe1.jpg)
Something you'd like to tell us George? No? Thought not......
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3315998.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3315998.htm)
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I just called (and called, and called, and called, and called....) to say I love you (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14913053)
Clearly delusional :lol:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html)
the Silvio Berlusconi quote in the last paragragh is genius
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Anyone who disagrees with the fucking barbaric practice that is capital punishment should take a minute to read this. After which you'll hopefully want to email the Georgia Parole Board to ask them not to kill Troy Davis:
http://action.amnesty.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1194&ea.campaign.id=11962&utm_source=aiuk&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=deathpenalty&utm_content=troy_homepage_main (http://action.amnesty.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1194&ea.campaign.id=11962&utm_source=aiuk&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=deathpenalty&utm_content=troy_homepage_main)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html)
the Silvio Berlusconi quote in the last paragragh is genius
*snort!*
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html)
the Silvio Berlusconi quote in the last paragragh is genius
*snort!*
To save others from having to read the article..
[Berlisconi has been] been overheard referring to the German leader as an "unfuckable lard-arse" ;)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-undermined-by-outspoken-mps-2354986.html)
the Silvio Berlusconi quote in the last paragragh is genius
*snort!*
To save others from having to read the article..
[Berlisconi has been] been overheard referring to the German leader as an "unfuckable lard-arse" ;)
Hmmm....
He's been staring in the mirror again.
Does anyone else suspect Silvio might be a Vampire?
Note the hair.
And how old is he, shouldn't he be dead yet?
And that taste for buxom young women?
(actually, kinda with him on the last one...)
Funny, spell check offers "Balcony" as first alt for Burlusconi (well he does hang out a bit).
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Bunga bunga
(http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/39/2011/03/xlarge_bunga_bunga_pix323.jpg)
(http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/image/product/22593183/view/1/type/png/width/378/height/378/i-want-you-for-bunga-bunga.png)
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:clap2:
I'm just envious because I've never been invited to one... :furious:
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To clarify!!!
With the girls.
Not Silvio! :slap:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14872365 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14872365)
Parts of Scotland are being battered by storm-force winds as the remnants of Hurricane Katia hit the UK.
(http://www.ilike.org.uk/images/deep-fried-mars-bar.jpg)
:whistle:
fukin watch whit yer fukin sayin or al cum down there an batter tha fuck out ya! :furious:
:lol:
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Trinity College gets a new member of the faculty: Conan the Barbarian. Now sadly taken down from the official site.... but praise be to google-cache:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=ga&client=firefox-a&hs=6s8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aga-IE%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=cache%3Awww.tcd.ie%2FEnglish%2Fstaff%2Facademic-staff%2Fconan%2520the%2520barbarian.php&btnG=Cuardaigh (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=ga&client=firefox-a&hs=6s8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aga-IE%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=cache%3Awww.tcd.ie%2FEnglish%2Fstaff%2Facademic-staff%2Fconan%2520the%2520barbarian.php&btnG=Cuardaigh)
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Which naughty newspaper should the police be looking in to? That's right, the Grauniad http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order)
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Which naughty newspaper should the police be looking in to? That's right, the Grauniad http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order)
Obviously they didn't pay their back-handers on time ::)
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It's
Political Correctness Cultural Sensitivity Gone Mad! (etc.)
http://www.news.com.au/national/for-christs-sake-ad-and-bc-ruled-out-of-date-for-national-curriculum/story-e6frfkvr-1226127965607 (http://www.news.com.au/national/for-christs-sake-ad-and-bc-ruled-out-of-date-for-national-curriculum/story-e6frfkvr-1226127965607)
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Which naughty newspaper should the police be looking in to? That's right, the Grauniad http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order)
This is actually very shit.
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The real cost of the debt crisis. Terribly sad:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904199404576538261061694524.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904199404576538261061694524.html)
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HMRC admits errors in corporate tax "deals" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/20/hmrc-admits-errors-in-corporate-tax-deals)
Quite why they are referring to them as "deals" I'm not sure, UK law states what tax should be paid, it should then be paid, not a "deal" made around it. :shrug:
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Xfactor exploit vulnerable woman for LOLZ:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gp8d6XhjGsZAAzw84rKkP1r1FZ2A?docId=N0503011316594586193A (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gp8d6XhjGsZAAzw84rKkP1r1FZ2A?docId=N0503011316594586193A)
http://www.tntmagazine.com/tnt-today/archive/2011/09/21/x-factor-exploited-vulnerable-ceri-rees-video.aspx (http://www.tntmagazine.com/tnt-today/archive/2011/09/21/x-factor-exploited-vulnerable-ceri-rees-video.aspx)
Shame on everyone who supports this filth by watching it.
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Which naughty newspaper should the police be looking in to? That's right, the Grauniad http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order)
This is actually very shit.
But since even the Zeig Mail backed them on this, the Met have backed down.
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Yes and now it comes full circle. Whoever was advising the Met on this obviously got it very wrong (or was ignored):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/21/met-officer-force-guardian-sources?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/21/met-officer-force-guardian-sources?CMP=twt_gu)
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Xfactor exploit vulnerable woman for LOLZ:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gp8d6XhjGsZAAzw84rKkP1r1FZ2A?docId=N0503011316594586193A (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gp8d6XhjGsZAAzw84rKkP1r1FZ2A?docId=N0503011316594586193A)
http://www.tntmagazine.com/tnt-today/archive/2011/09/21/x-factor-exploited-vulnerable-ceri-rees-video.aspx (http://www.tntmagazine.com/tnt-today/archive/2011/09/21/x-factor-exploited-vulnerable-ceri-rees-video.aspx)
Shame on everyone who supports this filth by watching it.
That is fucking disgusting. Wasn't there that thing written by an 'insider' not too long ago about the gay sexulisation of some kid too? Cnuts....
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Yes and now it comes full circle. Whoever was advising the Met on this obviously got it very wrong (or was ignored):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/21/met-officer-force-guardian-sources?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/21/met-officer-force-guardian-sources?CMP=twt_gu)
Someone's got a dry wit...
A senior Yard source said: "It's off the agenda."
:lol:
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Italian scientists on trial for failing to predict earthquake (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/scientists-go-on-trial-for-failing-to-warn-public-about-laquila-quake-2358188.html) :wall:
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Bit extreme, but it does sound like he was a bit arrogant in his response.
In one much-quoted interview, Bernardo De Bernardinis, then vice-chief of the technical division of the Civil Protection Agency, responded casually to a question about whether residents should just sit back and relax with a glass of wine. "Absolutely – a Montepulciano Doc," he replied.
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Yeah, 'cause predicting earthquakes with any degree of accuracy is a robust science!
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Bit extreme, but it does sound like he was a bit arrogant in his response.
He's Italian.
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Yeah, 'cause predicting earthquakes with any degree of accuracy is a robust science!
Really slackers? thanks for that. I really appreciate it when you explain these things to me, as I'm an idiot.
Being an arrogant prick seems to be his field of expertise, as per Jasper's comment.
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When I read it I thought he was being blasé rather than arrogant but life would be boring if everyone interpreted everything the same (or was it the particular choice of vino that was arrogant?). :tease:
Bit of a dumb question from the CPA in the first place, and if you ask a stupid question, you'll often get a stupid answer.
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Not sure where else to put this, but the review amused me http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/sep/21/urfrenz-trailer-social-network (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/sep/21/urfrenz-trailer-social-network)
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Very good.
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Recession claims another. Tragic.
http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2011/09/21/26347-highland-toffee-and-wham-bar-maker-goes-into-administration (http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2011/09/21/26347-highland-toffee-and-wham-bar-maker-goes-into-administration)
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Gutted... Wham bars powered me through my childhood...
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Gutted... Wham bars powered me through my childhood...
And I lost a couple of teeth in Highland toffee bars!
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When I read it I thought he was being blasé rather than arrogant but life would be boring if everyone interpreted everything the same (or was it the particular choice of vino that was arrogant?). :tease:
Bit of a dumb question from the CPA in the first place, and if you ask a stupid question, you'll often get a stupid answer.
As a scientist, If you want to predict when an earthquake will happen, I advise you ask Uri Geller.
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Irony
The autobiography of Julian Assange is set to be published for the first time tomorrow despite attempts by the WikiLeaks founder to suppress his tell-all memoir after a bitter and acrimonious row with its publisher.
"The memoir paints a vivid portrait of a driven but notoriously mercurial idealist bent on moulding the world in his own belief of absolute transparency."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-julian-assange-autobiography-set-to-be-published-tomorrow-2358532.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-julian-assange-autobiography-set-to-be-published-tomorrow-2358532.html)
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Theres a wonderful irony how the founder of Wikileaks wanted his unofficial autobiography blocked ;)
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When I read it I thought he was being blasé rather than arrogant but life would be boring if everyone interpreted everything the same (or was it the particular choice of vino that was arrogant?). :tease:
Bit of a dumb question from the CPA in the first place, and if you ask a stupid question, you'll often get a stupid answer.
As a scientist, If you want to predict when an earthquake will happen, I advise you ask Uri Geller.
I may be an Engineer these days...
But I did read Geology.
Predicting a "where" and "when" for an earthquake is simple.
Unfortunately, the answer is:
1, Now, before I finish speaking.
2, Somewhere.
It is pretty stupid to prosecute for not being able to do the impossible, even as it was idiotic to be so blase (got an Arabic key board, can't do accents); he was probably sick of being asked the damn silly question...
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Biggest civilian IT project scrapped, wasting ~£12billion.....of NHS money :wall: (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hINpJrMl7dq3S4ELlezmDWd7bhJA?docId=N0522881316675434555A)
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Interesting. I've seen this "£12.7bn wasted" statement bandied about a lot but if you look at the figures in that article it's not right by a long way.
Some elements of the scheme which have proved successful - such as the "choose and book" system - will be retained. Their delivery accounts for around two-thirds of the £6.4 billion spent on the programme so far.
So actually £6.4bn has been spent and 2/3 of that (£4.27bn) has been spent on successful projects which are being retained.
That leaves £2.13bn which has been spent on projects which are not being retained or "wasted".
Only £10.57bn out then.
Don't get me wrong, I always thought it was a shit idea and a total waste of money but the statements being chucked about are completely inaccurate.
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Aren't there often contractual obligations that need to be paid? I seem to recall that when the National ID card scheme was scrapped, the government were still contractually obliged to pay those who won the contract to implement it a stupid amount of money (the "compensation arrangements" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/27/theresa-may-scrapping-id-cards) mentioned).
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(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/jun2011/8/5/aei-cables-image-5-60091485.jpg)
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(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/jun2011/8/5/aei-cables-image-5-60091485.jpg)
But it is a really nice fence...
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Anyone who disagrees with the fucking barbaric practice that is capital punishment should take a minute to read this. After which you'll hopefully want to email the Georgia Parole Board to ask them not to kill Troy Davis:
http://action.amnesty.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1194&ea.campaign.id=11962&utm_source=aiuk&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=deathpenalty&utm_content=troy_homepage_main (http://action.amnesty.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1194&ea.campaign.id=11962&utm_source=aiuk&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=deathpenalty&utm_content=troy_homepage_main)
What a thoroughly depressing day.
(Sometimes you can't help but wonder if the World would have been a better place if Sherman had done a more thorough job.)
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Hitman falls in love with victim and fakes her death using tomato ketchup. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040452/Hired-hit-man-fell-love-victim-faking-death-tomato-ketchup.html?ITO=1490)
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To be fair, thats what you get for £350. Its got to be bargain basement as far as killers go shirley? And don't even get started on the 'love at first sight' thing, he can't exactly be a hardened killer.
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not sure if this should be in "ultimate internet"
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/barnsley/boob_job_website_sparks_exploitation_allegations_1_3802681 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/barnsley/boob_job_website_sparks_exploitation_allegations_1_3802681)
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not sure if this should be in "ultimate internet"
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/barnsley/boob_job_website_sparks_exploitation_allegations_1_3802681 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/barnsley/boob_job_website_sparks_exploitation_allegations_1_3802681)
Oh no, "borderline soft pr0n" poses!
Of course a charity called "Object" are going to complain!
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Apparently you can spontaneously combust (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15032614) (at least according to an Irish coroner). :clap2:
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Mr Green said he doubted explanations centred on divine intervention
He's good.
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The magic dog of Tod (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2011/sep/23/todmorden-dog-statue-calderdale-hebden-bridge?CMP=twt_fd). I wonder if it can stop you becoming a smackhead?
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Apparently you can spontaneously combust (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15032614) (at least according to an Irish coroner). :clap2:
At the other end of the scale you can freeze to death sitting under an air-conditioning unit (http://notthenation.com/2011/09/office-worker-freezes-to-death-in-air-conditioning-tragedy/).
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The magic dog of Tod (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2011/sep/23/todmorden-dog-statue-calderdale-hebden-bridge?CMP=twt_fd). I wonder if it can stop you becoming a smackhead?
There's a great name for Nik's next FA.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310)
:tumble:
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Monkeys: More interested in throwing faeces than writing sonnets
Genius
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Monkeys: More interested in throwing faeces than writing sonnets
Genius
to be fair, I'd probably be more interested in throwing faeces than writing sonnets...
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Heartwarming news story of the day…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15050927 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15050927)
(Obviousy someone's been busy down in the crypt with the embalming fluid, lightning rod, and electrodes over the weekend)
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Anyone who disagrees with the fucking barbaric practice that is capital punishment should take a minute to read this. After which you'll hopefully want to email the Georgia Parole Board to ask them not to kill Troy Davis:
http://action.amnesty.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1194&ea.campaign.id=11962&utm_source=aiuk&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=deathpenalty&utm_content=troy_homepage_main (http://action.amnesty.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1194&ea.campaign.id=11962&utm_source=aiuk&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=deathpenalty&utm_content=troy_homepage_main)
What a thoroughly depressing day.
(Sometimes you can't help but wonder if the World would have been a better place if Sherman had done a more thorough job.)
I'm still pissed off and angry about this.
But what can I do about it?
Sat here, as an "armchair warrior" against the constitution of both the State of Georgia and the United States of America.
It's not as if either of them wilfully flout the rule of law, or act as terrorist states, is it?
But is it the fact they adhere to the rule of law that I should be doing something, no matter how minor, how small, how insignificant it is?
Christ I'm turning into a right sanctimonious maudlin little twat. Off to the pub for the second half of Ciddeh/B*y*rn - Manyew/Basel
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Facebook cookies track you when you're logged out (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2042573/Facebook-privacy-row-Social-network-giant-admits-bugs.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
I think this relates to the "like" function that appears on other pages but still it would there "was" a breach of privacy.
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Now.
What sort of twat would drive a 4x4 up a mountain?
:-\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712)
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Now.
What sort of twat would drive a 4x4 up a mountain?
:-\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712)
Now.
What sort of twat would drive a 4x4 up a mountain?
:-\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712)
Twice! Its the second time the same car has been to the top...
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The nobber didn't get to the top last time.
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The nobber didn't get to the top last time.
It did well this time! I heard the first owner / driver (if the second was different) was very repentant and put the 4x4 on ebay with proceeds going to xyz etc.. so I wonder whether or not it was the first person or some other cheeky fecker..
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I take it he was repentant after this interview then? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14793859 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14793859)
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Govt to launch consultation to raise speed limit on motorway to 80mph.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/29/speed-limit-raised-80mph (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/29/speed-limit-raised-80mph)
Is this even news? I thought 80 was kind of the unofficial speed limit anyway. I've always heard from "my mate's mate's mate is a traffic copper" type conversations in the pub that no 5-0 would pull you for 80 (unless you were doing it dangerously / aggressively / tailgating etc), it's people doing a ton plus they're bothered about.
All of this is moot to me of course - as a Micra driver I can only dream of such speeds!
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Speed limit + 10% + 3 mph is the usual threshold for prosecution but you get 'zero tolerance' areas.
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Speed limit + 10% + 3 mph is the usual threshold for prosecution but you get 'zero tolerance' areas.
Aye, the endorsements I've ever picked up on my licence are for 34 in a 30 through Duffield one Sunday morning, was a mobile van though.
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This is interesting re speed limits:
http://mmcmusings.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/what-are-speed-limits-for-daddy/ (http://mmcmusings.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/what-are-speed-limits-for-daddy/)
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So.
Who did kill Meredith Kercher?
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So.
Who did kill Meredith Kercher?
Did they leave any tick marks?
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Anyone else noticed how a nice middle-class White girl, and a Black bloke who nobody actually cares about have >>>BOTH<<< been found "Not Guilty" here?
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Anyone else noticed how a nice middle-class White girl, and a Black bloke who nobody actually cares about have >>>BOTH<<< been found "Not Guilty" here?
I thought it was the two white people who got away with it were found not guilty, and one guy (was he black?) who pleaded quilty (which gave him a reduced senetence)...??
I mentally switched off this when the Knox media train got bigger than the issue that a young woman had been murdered.. The whole thing is like some rather sick (because its real and not a sattire) almost Chris Morris creation...
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Same day as O.J, funny no?
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Anyone else noticed how a nice middle-class White girl, and a Black bloke who nobody actually cares about have >>>BOTH<<< been found "Not Guilty" here?
I thought it was the two white people who got away with it were found not guilty, and one guy (was he black?) who pleaded quilty (which gave him a reduced senetence)...??
I mentally switched off this when the Knox media train got bigger than the issue that a young woman had been murdered.. The whole thing is like some rather sick (because its real and not a sattire) almost Chris Morris creation...
OK. It's a fair cop. It does try to suggest I was actually paying attention to any of the media circus.
The real human story is the family of Meredith Kercher - they've got a dead daughter currently with no knowledge of how she was killed - which can't bring her back - and no closure on it knowing what happened.
And yeah, I've been drinking the Scotch again, and yeah, I'm pissed off and angry I can't precisely articulate the real issues, and the real problems here, and even more pissed off there's fuck all I can personally do to help the people here who really do need it.
The internet - it's fucking wonderful, for the self-righteous, pompous, and keepers of the one shining truth that's going to be revealed as the saviour of all humankind, isn't it?
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The internet - it's fucking wonderful, for the self-righteous, pompous, and keepers of the one shining truth that's going to be revealed as the saviour of all humankind, isn't it?
And its good for pictures of kittens in cardboard boxes too ;)
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The real human story is the family of Meredith Kercher - they've got a dead daughter currently with no knowledge of how she was killed - which can't bring her back - and no closure on it knowing what happened.
Absolutely correct. Why on earth the Kercher family have to have press conferences which are the equivalent of waving a flag to say dont forget about us... Thank god I'm not watching TV in the USA...
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I've actually read quite a lot about this case and have been totally convinced for ages that they are innocent.
There were a lot of factors that went into them being tried / found guilty in the first place and absolutely none of them involved credible evidence or an actual motive. They did themselves no favours by panicking under extreme pressure and lying. They did themselves no favours in how they came across. However, they were also ripped to pieces by the media and had no chance whatsoever of getting a fair trial. It was yet another case of the tabloids etc deciding they were guilty (or it was a good story that they were anyway) and digging up anything they could find to discredit them. We've seen it all before and since, Barry George, Chris Jeffries, Rebecca Leighton.....
Then there's the matter of how "justice" works in Italy and how "saving face" can be more important than the truth. This article from two years ago explains exactly how it worked and predicted the appeal and it's success:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/06/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-trial-perugia (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/06/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-trial-perugia)
The simple truth is that Rudy Guede murdered Meredith Kercher and he's in prison for doing so. It's a terrible shame for everyone involved that anything more than that had to happen.
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A sideline to the circus is that the Daily Mail (Sun and Sky News & the Guardian :ohmy:) all published guilty stories (http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/daily-mail-guuilt/) when the judge said she was guilty of slander and before he had acquitted her. The Mail was the worst having fabricated responses from Kercher family members (as if it needs repeating.... :wank: )
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Spawning the very amusing #MailHistory hashtag:
www.twitter.com/search?q=MailHistory (http://www.twitter.com/search?q=MailHistory)
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Spawning the very amusing #MailHistory hashtag:
www.twitter.com/search?q=MailHistory (http://www.twitter.com/search?q=MailHistory)
Very good some excellent ones there... I liked the WMD one...
Still trying to figure out why aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB smited and wadded me in the same blow.. *shrugs* :)
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Still trying to figure out why aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB smited and wadded me in the same blow.. *shrugs* :)
He was drunk and clicked on the wrong one first try?
And yeah, I've been drinking the Scotch again, and yeah, I'm pissed off and angry I can't precisely articulate the real issues, and the real problems here, and even more pissed off there's fuck all I can personally do to help the people here who really do need it.
The internet - it's fucking wonderful, for the self-righteous, pompous, and keepers of the one shining truth that's going to be revealed as the saviour of all humankind, isn't it?
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Yes, I figured something similar may have happened :) I'd kept a clean nose for the last 18 months ;)
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I thought he meant to although I may well be wrong. Makes sense innit.
Tasteless = very poor = punter.
Tasteless = also funny though = wad.
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Foreign decoders can be legally used in pubs (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241).
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This could well be news soon...
Are people in the NHS selling confidential medical records to companies for direct marketing? (http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/this-is-potentially-huge-are-people-in-the-nh)
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I thought he meant to although I may well be wrong. Makes sense innit.
Tasteless = very poor = punter.
Tasteless = also funny though = wad.
Jasper is entirely correct.
Mind you, I was trolleyed at the same time too.
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Those loveable Tories, and their wacky knockabout mates:
I would like to make it abundantly, absolutely, inescapably, and undeniably clear.
Formally. For the record.
This has got *NOTHING* to do with me
http://yfrog.com/nyemttdj (http://yfrog.com/nyemttdj)
Any similarity between my name and these ignorant racist nobheads is purely coincidental
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The Dially Mile and their zany knockabout readership -
Apropos retiurn of skulls looted by German colonials:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045107/Skulls-snatched-Africa-German-scientists-trying-prove-Europeans-master-race-finally-returned.html#ixzz1ZqVbXxBx (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045107/Skulls-snatched-Africa-German-scientists-trying-prove-Europeans-master-race-finally-returned.html#ixzz1ZqVbXxBx)
And the 'best' rated comment on that story is.....
All men are not born equal, so why believe that all races are equal? Any person with common sense or logic can see this is simply not true, doesn't mean we should not respect one another. It just shows why mass immigration must be stopped, because if you take away the Europeans from this continent our culture and great society will be destroyed too.
- James, England, 4/10/2011 18:20
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Joseph Stiglitz: Austerity not the way to go for Europe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15110053 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15110053)
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US justice again. I have no words:
http://www.change.org/petitions/reverse-decision-to-try-12-yo-cristian-fernandez-as-an-adult (http://www.change.org/petitions/reverse-decision-to-try-12-yo-cristian-fernandez-as-an-adult)
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See. It's not all bad news:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/06/sarah-palin-not-run-president (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/06/sarah-palin-not-run-president)
Score one for the Man Upstairs
"After much prayer and serious consideration, I have decided that I will not be seeking the 2012 GOP nomination for president of the United States.
"When we serve, we devote ourselves to God, family and country. My decision maintains this order."
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Yeah at least we wont be seeing a delusional psychotic maniac bird running for President eh?
http://www.michelebachmann.com/ (http://www.michelebachmann.com/)
Oh shit! :o
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http://news.yahoo.com/magic-mushroom-compound-triggered-positive-personality-change-study-130805527.html (http://news.yahoo.com/magic-mushroom-compound-triggered-positive-personality-change-study-130805527.html)
Can we prescribe 'shrooms to certain miserable sods then?
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:goodidea:
Might go foraging this weekend given the shit weather forecast.
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That's cool.
We once took a flask of mushroom coffee into The Broadfield on a Friday night and gave some to just about everyone in there.
Positive attitudes all round! ;D
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"I hope my little nightstick is going to get a workout tonight"
NYPD Officer on Wall Street bragging "My little nightstick's going to get a workout tonight" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBxPzhXFT6c#ws)
Anyone else amazed at the lack of coverage these protests are getting in the mainstream media?
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I'm not amazed at all:
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/10/05/surprised-the-bbc-is-ignoring-occupywallstreet-you-shouldnt-be/ (http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/10/05/surprised-the-bbc-is-ignoring-occupywallstreet-you-shouldnt-be/)
And the irony of this headline:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15193085 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15193085)
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Probably not sticking fingers in ears or going LALALALALALALALA loud enough.
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What the FUCK?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15231033 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15231033)
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Who ever would of thorted [sic] that the Tories could be out-cunted in government?
Chris Huhne - take a bow!
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What the FUCK?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15231033 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15231033)
'The feud is said to involve eighteen families, most of whom are related ' ........ There's a surprise ........
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Daily Fail caught scanning two day old Grauniad picture and passing off as it's own:
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2011/10/daily-mail-fox/ (http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2011/10/daily-mail-fox/)
Also re the Fox / Werritty story, scandal and certain resignation aside, can anyone really believe (as it says in the Fail article) that AW is 34!?
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02023/fox-werritty_2023271c.jpg)
THIRTY FOUR?
(http://www.heraldscotland.com/polopoly_fs/41318085351282-1.1128348!image/1849510807.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_300/1849510807.JPG)
:-\
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34 stone?
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Maybe!
Indian billionaire moves into worlds most expensive "house":
http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/property-type/billionaire-homes/1-billion-antilia-mumbai-the-worlds-most-expensive-house-completed/ (http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/property-type/billionaire-homes/1-billion-antilia-mumbai-the-worlds-most-expensive-house-completed/)
:ohmy:
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Maybe!
Indian billionaire moves into worlds most expensive "house":
http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/property-type/billionaire-homes/1-billion-antilia-mumbai-the-worlds-most-expensive-house-completed/ (http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/property-type/billionaire-homes/1-billion-antilia-mumbai-the-worlds-most-expensive-house-completed/)
:ohmy:
I think that Caecescau's palace in Bucharesti might qualify as the worlds most expensive house - as for some 5 years it consumed c.20% of Romanias national budget in its construction. If you ever go to Romania it is well worth a visit, mainly (to me) as a reminder of how cruel and tyrannical a man he was. It is simply an incredibly grandeous structure - for which he demolished a whole chunk of the city (so it would be aligned correctly)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_the_Parliament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_the_Parliament)
(http://www.factfirst.com/Uploaded/404_334.jpg)
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Infact, he demolished more than that; so you could see it from the outskirts as you aproached the city... Don't get my missus started on the subject...
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Infact, he demolished more than that; so you could see it from the outskirts as you aproached the city... Don't get my missus started on the subject...
Yes, its a huge area around the palace itself - including a series of tree lined boulevards leading up to the palace. The pictures really dont do it justice- it may 'only' be 12 storey (and 9 underground) but each of the storeys is double decker bus height..
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I can't believe Fox can escape this debacle. No, wait, of course I bloody can.
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I can't believe Fox can escape this debacle. No, wait, of course I bloody can.
Don't think he will, even the Sun is on his case:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/3866947/Tory-cover-up-over-Liam-Fox-burglary.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/3866947/Tory-cover-up-over-Liam-Fox-burglary.html)
It's obvious that he will go - and all those Tory MPs who vouched for him will look all the more corrupt/stupid/weak willed for doing so. Cameron is so scared of back bench dissent he has lost sight of the fact that his own credibility is slipping.
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What credibility is that?
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...Cameron...his own credibility is slipping.
Anyone who's been following Charlie Brooker's Twitter feed will have seen some enlightening views on our beloved PM!
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Anyone who's been following Charlie Brooker's Twitter feed will have seen some enlightening views on our beloved PM!
He's C3PO covered in ham.
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He's nothing like Slackers. :shrug:
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Celebrate Liam Fox's imminent political demise with this handy business card generator:
http://politicalscrapbook.net/virals/liam-fox-business-card/ (http://politicalscrapbook.net/virals/liam-fox-business-card/)
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He is my advisor, and also, I am happy to say, my lover.
Police in Amsterdam - Harry Enfield and Chums - BBC comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRfluaMKoOY#)
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He is my advisor, and also, I am happy to say, my lover.
Police in Amsterdam - Harry Enfield and Chums - BBC comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRfluaMKoOY#)
Ah. The real subtext from our chums in the 4th estate finally dares speak its name.
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My Blackberry Is Not Working! - The One Ronnie, Preview - BBC One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI#ws)
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Does anyone else have a smile every time the manufacturers of Blackberry get mentioned on the news?
http://www.rim.com/ (http://www.rim.com/)
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BBC announce they are scrapping "TwatNav"…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/8823382/Top-Gear-BBC-forced-to-scrap-Jeremy-Clarkson-satnav-deal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/8823382/Top-Gear-BBC-forced-to-scrap-Jeremy-Clarkson-satnav-deal.html)
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Taken for a ride? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15302723) :no: :wank:
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Police only allowing people with corporate IDS on to Wall St :wank:
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=11124 (http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=11124)
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Huntin', huntin', & huntin' brigade at it again…
http://www.harboroughmail.co.uk/news/crime/breaking_news_hunt_duo_lose_their_appeal_1_3155659 (http://www.harboroughmail.co.uk/news/crime/breaking_news_hunt_duo_lose_their_appeal_1_3155659)
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Police only allowing people with corporate IDS on to Wall St :wank:
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=11124 (http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=11124)
I wouldn't be seen dead with Ian Duncan Smith ....... Didn't know that the everyday cuntish version had been upgraded to a corporate one though .........
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Police only allowing people with corporate IDS on to Wall St :wank:
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=11124 (http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=11124)
I wouldn't be seen dead with Ian Duncan Smith ....... Didn't know that the everyday cuntish version had been upgraded to a corporate one though .........
I wouldn't be seen dead with either of them.
(Remind me again, which is the evil one, is it Ian or Duncan?)
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Doubtless he's taking the socially liberal lead from his boss?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-plans-to-drop-visa-that-saved-his-childrens-nanny-2371355.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-plans-to-drop-visa-that-saved-his-childrens-nanny-2371355.html)
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Crimewave overwhelms Norfolk CID
http://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/offenders_broke_into_caister_home_and_opened_freezer_1_1092612#.TpxSm7gsjco.twitter (http://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/offenders_broke_into_caister_home_and_opened_freezer_1_1092612#.TpxSm7gsjco.twitter)
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Two completely unrelated stories.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/18/bbc-rollout-dab-radio (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/18/bbc-rollout-dab-radio)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/19/bskyb-profits-rise-subscriber-slowdown (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/19/bskyb-profits-rise-subscriber-slowdown)
Tell you what though, I'm glad the government are clamping down on that wasteful behemoth the BBC. The fuckers need reigning in as they never do anything useful with the licence fee and never produce anything worth watching or listening to.
What's more they're stifling competition with their unfair advantage in the way they're funded. I mean how is a private company supposed to prosper when up against a publicly financed monster like the Corporation?
Yeah, sort it out Cameron......
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“It was an interesting experiment to fulfil the alchemist’s dream, but wasn’t going to succeed.”
Read more:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/man-who-tried-to-turn-his-faeces-into-gold-is-jailed-16066385.html#ixzz1bKj9tcei (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/man-who-tried-to-turn-his-faeces-into-gold-is-jailed-16066385.html#ixzz1bKj9tcei)
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I think I shall never see,
A poem as lovely as a multi-million pound beachfront development
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-15381464 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-15381464)
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Balls! (http://jumptheturnstyle.com/2011/10/21/help-shrink-this-guys-balls/)
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Balls! (http://jumptheturnstyle.com/2011/10/21/help-shrink-this-guys-balls/)
Watching that I could only think of the hypocrisy of a nation that declares to be founded upon "Christian values" whilst in the same breath derides the idea of a public health service.
Disgusting. And I don't mean his scrotum.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15464974 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15464974)
Have a mate, who only just survived yesterday...
Took him 7 hours to get from the med coast back to Como.
And there was me moaning about the rain yesterday and having to blow off a day on the rock, for a day on the wall...
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An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of companies, mainly banks, with disproportionate power over the global economy.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html)
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An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of companies, mainly banks, with disproportionate power over the global economy.
I reckon you'd get pretty much the same list if you just recorded the most frequent subjects of articles in the FT.
Of course, most of the western world's pensions and savings etc are in some way invested in or managed by those companies, so it's hard to say that their influence is disproportionate to the amount of public interest in them.
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The fact that there is a large public interest in them should be all the more reason for there being accountability for the way that they are being run.
Surely when you own something you should have some say in how it operates? I thought the primary concern of any company was supposed to be the shareholders. The way most big banks have been run recently has been for the benefit of a minority of employees / board members and the shareholders have been screwed.
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What he said...
Plus I think the main point was that the world's economy might be more stable if things were spread around a little more.
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+1, with knobs on...
Things are getting beyond a joke. Why, though, do the shareholders tolerate it?
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What he said...
Plus I think the main point was that the world's economy might be more stable if things were spread around a little more.
Agreed. But the point is that everyone seems to want the wealth spread around a bit more, as long as it's not their wealth, in which case they want it in the biggest institution that gives them the best return.
In reply to Oldmanmatt, the shareholders tolerate it because the institutions make money and the value of their shares go up. Or at least they don't fall by as much as the other investment options.
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Ah, for the days when the dividend was more powerful than the trade...
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How to land a Boeing 767 with no landing gear :jaw:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15543315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15543315)
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Smooth as silk :bow:
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:o
:clap2:
:strongbench:
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How to land a Boeing 767 with no landing gear :jaw:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15543315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15543315)
Bet the computer landed it ;)
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How to land a Boeing 767 with no landing gear :jaw:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15543315 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15543315)
Bet the computer landed it ;)
Thats one ZX81 that can fly me any time!
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Mountain bikers trying to catch Impalas, now.....
How to catch an Eagle (http://video.heraldsun.com.au/2163526312/Eagle-slams-paraglider)
:o
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Loving the Eagle and the Plane landing - cheered up my day.
This one's a few days old, but it still made me a laugh: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/greeks-punch-gift-horse-in-the-face-201111014490/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/greeks-punch-gift-horse-in-the-face-201111014490/) :lol:
In fact, the dailymash has been back on form the last few days...
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Another two completely unrelated stories here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/nov/02/cameron-boardroom-excesses-robin-hood-tax (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/nov/02/cameron-boardroom-excesses-robin-hood-tax)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval)
:-\
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Working for beans, literally (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/7654267.stm)
:badidea:
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Alex James is a cunt:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2011/nov/03/alex-james-cheese-festival (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2011/nov/03/alex-james-cheese-festival)
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Hardly news.
Never before would a grenade be better used than to be flung in between those 3.
And I struggle to find sympathy for people who lost money buying tickets for the event.
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Hardly news.
No but it bears repeating.
Never before would a grenade be better used than to be flung in between those 3.
True.
And I struggle to find sympathy for people who lost money buying tickets for the event.
Me neither but it makes me angry that the prick owes a primary school £7000.
He probably spends more than that each year on tweed jackets and Hunter wellies. The cunt.
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Hardly news.
Never before would a grenade be better used than to be flung in between those 3.
If Piers Morgan and James Corden were just out of shot (but not range), it would be a very good value for money grenade. Though if Piers were to order his ego to dive on said grenade it would smother any explosion completely, emitting only a gentle belch...
A liberal sprinkling of C-Dificile at Alex James' cheese factory would probably do nicely...
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Worth a mention is the massive news (http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=12706.0)broken on UKB's sister site UKC yesterday (no, not cocktalk) - props to all involved. Has just made the Guardian too. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2011/nov/07/caving-potholing-three-counties-system-gaping-gill-white-scar-caves-edouard-martel?CMP=twt_fd)
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Fucking mentalists. Great effort.
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Yeah, I was trying to think of a climbing analogy but gave up. Modern british climbing all seems a bit arbitrary in comparison.
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Like pulling on at the tor and topping out at woodwell? Souns awesome.
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140mtrs of digging?
That would have to be some tottering sea stack.
Or Century Crack?
I mean, what kind of super human nut job would climb that?
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Daily Mail admits to behaving like the Daily Mail:
http://blog.dave.org.uk/2011/11/winterval.html (http://blog.dave.org.uk/2011/11/winterval.html)
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Police authorised to shoot protestors in London:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/07/plastic-bullets-available-student-protests (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/07/plastic-bullets-available-student-protests)
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Sarko and Obama fail to learn from "Bigotedwomangate". ;)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/sarkozy-obama-netanyahu-gaffe-microphone (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/sarkozy-obama-netanyahu-gaffe-microphone)
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Merkel and Sarkozy share views on Berlusconi
Merkel & Sarkozy on their trust in Berlusconi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9HCTWjylY#ws)
(sorry if this is a repost)
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Sarko and Obama fail to learn from "Bigotedwomangate". ;)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/sarkozy-obama-netanyahu-gaffe-microphone (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/sarkozy-obama-netanyahu-gaffe-microphone)
Nice to know they are human, though.
Now if they could only translate that into policy...
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Forgot someone mentioed this to me last week.
Nice CNN report live from Cannes - see map
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2011/10/cannes%20france.jpg)
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Police authorised to shoot protestors in London:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/07/plastic-bullets-available-student-protests (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/07/plastic-bullets-available-student-protests)
and other affronts
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/met-accused-scare-protesters-letter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/met-accused-scare-protesters-letter)
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Did anyone see Panarama last night? Think I'll have to try and catch it on iPlayer tonight.
Sounds like it was particularly biased:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2011/nov/08/energy-bills-panorama-renewables (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2011/nov/08/energy-bills-panorama-renewables)
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Bravo for the Big Society!!!
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/2011/11/08/bedworth-suicide-pact-couple-found-lying-side-by-side-92746-29739580/2/ (http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/2011/11/08/bedworth-suicide-pact-couple-found-lying-side-by-side-92746-29739580/2/)
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This is really good about what Berlusconi stepping down may mean for Italy:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/10/berlusconi-exit-italy (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/10/berlusconi-exit-italy)
I've read this guy's book The Dark Heart of Italy and it's excellent.
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Ah...
One has just embarassed one's self.
I nearly pissed my self with laughter at the "malice breaking through", passage...
Got my breath back and remembered, I'm sitting alone in Costas; with everyone staring at me...
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Lansley forced to reveal report. Big news.......
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/politics/article-24008861-lansley-ordered-to-reveal-secret-health-report.do (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/politics/article-24008861-lansley-ordered-to-reveal-secret-health-report.do)
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Nice one Jasper.
It {the dept of Health}also defended non-disclosure on the grounds that it could "deter from full, candid and proper deliberation of policy formulation and development".
Orwellian, or what? ('proper' = 'from a position of public ignorance such that our policies which would be otherwise unacceptable are naively unopposed')
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Maybe the EDL should just rebrand themselves as "The Keystone Criminals"?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8885128/EDL-members-arrested-on-Armistice-Day.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8885128/EDL-members-arrested-on-Armistice-Day.html)
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Nice one Jasper.
It {the dept of Health}also defended non-disclosure on the grounds that it could "deter from full, candid and proper deliberation of policy formulation and development".
Orwellian, or what? ('proper' = 'from a position of public ignorance such that our policies which would be otherwise unacceptable are naively unopposed')
To be honest, they've got a point here. I you're developing public policy it makes sense to have lots of discussion *within the department* about the possible negative effects of your policy. The argument against making these discussions public is that if ministers are afraid these documents will later be used against them, then govt departments have an incentive to avoid thinking about, or discussing, unwanted side effects of their policies. This is hardly going to lead to well discussed policies etc. it's exactly the same rationale which justifies collective responsibility for the cabinet.
Not that I agree with the reforms at all, but I don't want to encourage ministers to avoid thinking about the negative aspects of their shiny new policy, for fear of being beaten around the head with their discussions later on...
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It's a valid point Stu, I accept that principle. However these so-and-sos are privatising by stealth and have plenty to hide. I want to know.
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Best headline I've seen in a while:
Schoolyard Penis Seen From Space (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2007/jan/31/schools.uk1)
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Awesome. We spray painted 'dick' above the allotted car park space for the 'head'. Not sure if it made google earth though. Good skills boys.
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it reminded me of this fine upstanding young fella-me-lad...:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/mar/24/penis-drawing-roof-google (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/mar/24/penis-drawing-roof-google)
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Insidious BBC Digital Rights Management of HD content (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/14/bbc-hd-drm)
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"I'll have the bird
s-nest salad please" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-15742121) :sick:
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As pointed out by slackers on Twitter, this is a complete and utter disgrace:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/nov/16/young-jobseekers-work-pay-unemployment (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/nov/16/young-jobseekers-work-pay-unemployment)
This is slavery:
The 1926 Convention's definition of slavery was broadened to include forced or compulsory labor in 1930 in the ILO Convention (No. 29) concerning Forced or Compulsory Labour (article 2.1):
"...all work or service which is exacted from any person under the menace of any penalty and for which the said person has not offered himself voluntarily."
What's almost as bad as the people being forced to work for no pay is that we're actually funding it through the benefits system. So instead of Tesco et al paying people to do work for them (and the people paying tax), we're paying them and Tesco etc get free labour.
How is this in any way good for anyone apart from the (already massively profitable) companies involved? How has it come to this?
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Good point on the slavery aspect there Jas, I reckon that could be a very simple, powerful & legal case for stopping this debauched practice.
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How is this in any way good for anyone apart from the (already massively profitable) companies involved? How has it come to this?
Well, I imagine it's also good for the goverment in keeping down unemployment figures now nobody can afford to go to university.
It's come to this because all the young/ students/ teachers/ public-sector workers/ private-sector workers/ nurses/ umemployed etc, are lazy, manipulative, workshy good for nothings.
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But they're still on JSA so it does dick all for government statistics, its disguised as "work experience" not employment.
And why are people studying/teaching/working (public & private) lazy, manipulative, workshy good for nothings? They're getting on with earning a crust, non? :shrug:
Even of those on JSA there is only a minority whom might be considered lazy, manipulative and workshy.
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I think that was sarcasm slackers.....
Yeah if they called it employment rather than "work experience" then presumably the minimum wage laws would have to apply so the scam wouldn't work.
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:oops:
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Sorry, sarcasm and computers don't mix! I'll remember the :heavy irony: next time :lol:
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Difficult not to get worked up about it.
So, easy to miss the sarcasm...
Just too many pompous, over privileged, gits; in parliament.
Ever has it been thus.
People do seem to be waking up, though...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15752207 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15752207)
I wonder if it's the name that triggers the urges?
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Difficult not to get worked up about it.
So, easy to miss the sarcasm...
Just too many pompous, over privileged, gits; in parliament.
Ever has it been thus.
People do seem to be waking up, though...
Yes, but sadly not enough people will do anything as long as a sizeable percentage of the population believe (is manipulated into believing) that another is getting a better deal than them.
Reading threads/ comments on youth unemployment on various different sites has been thouroughly depressing today.
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Be interesting to see what will happen to student numbers... two weeks ago our applications were 50% down on the same time last year (based on 3 year rolling average) but as of today only 2%... (a few sighs of relief...)..
Sadly, I suspect theres ferk all prospects for school leavers out there other than get nuts deep in debt.
If I were 18 again I'd borrow as much as I could, have a great time at University, get a degree and piss off to Australia.
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Be interesting to see what will happen to student numbers... two weeks ago our applications were 50% down on the same time last year (based on 3 year rolling average) but as of today only 2%... (a few sighs of relief...)..
Sadly, I suspect theres ferk all prospects for school leavers out there other than get nuts deep in debt.
If I were 18 again I'd borrow as much as I could, have a great time at University, get a degree and piss off to Australia.
:punk:
See you in the airport...
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If I were 18 again any age I'd borrow as much as I could, have a great time at University spearmint rhino, get a degree plane ticket and piss off to Australia.
Fine plan
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It's going to be a crowded plane...
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Deeley Meal bang on with it's stats as per:
http://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#/JonathanHaynes/status/137489685235777536/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#/JonathanHaynes/status/137489685235777536/photo/1)
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Northern Rock looks like it might be about to turn a profit, must be about time to sell it on the cheap to one of you palls George old boy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15769886 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15769886)
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/osborne-to-use-%C2%A3747m-from-northern-rock-sale-to-bail-out-new-owners-201111174558/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/osborne-to-use-%C2%A3747m-from-northern-rock-sale-to-bail-out-new-owners-201111174558/)
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That Mash piece is as amusing as ever.
Not sure about the timing of this sale and I'm sure plenty of George's pals will be getting very rich out of the deal (consultancy fees etc) but one thing is very wrong about the reporting on Northern Rock and has been since the start of the crisis and that's the description of NRAM as the "bad bank" where all the assets are "toxic". Everyone has been doing this from the start and in fact before NR was nationalised a lot of it's problems were caused by market fears fucking up the share price and the run on the bank that this created. If that hadn't happened then it's possible that the emergency funding from the BOE would have been sufficient to sort out the problems in the short term and nationalisation might not have been necessary. Confidence in whether or not the loans will be defaulted on rather than them ACTUALLY defaulting and having to be written off.
A hell of a lot of the £21bn in assets that NRAM holds are perfectly normal loans and mortgages which are being repaid perfectly normally and will continue to be. All they did was shift anything that had the possibility to be defaulted on without sufficient security into NRAM, but that includes all unsecured personal loans and mortgages which were higher than the asset value at the time, many of which have now been repaid to the point where they are not. I know plenty of people with such loans and mortagages and none of them are about to default. In fact I spoke to an IFA the other week who told me that the NR 125% mortgage deal was one of the least defaulted on products he'd seen over the years and yet we are led to believe that it was this type of lending that caused all the problems. It wasn't.
I'd love to see the actual figures of how much debt was transferred into NRAM, what the balance is now and how much has actually been written off because of defaults rather than the handy terms "bad bank" and "toxic assets" being bandied about by the likes of Peston and Faisal Islam.
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Not just UK police who are heavy handed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/18/occupy-oakland-police-beating-veteran)
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Interesting insight jas, it's amazing how the fear of share prices dropping can be enough to actually make them nosedive!
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Ken Clarke. Nail. Hammer. Hit. Head.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15801960 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15801960)
He added: "When some official, some policeman, whoever, has made some mistake in taking some absurd decision, the first thing they do to fend off criticism is to blame it on health and safety and blame it on human rights. The truth is that someone's made a pig's ear in the office."
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Ken Clarke. Hammer. Hit. Head. Dead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15801960 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15801960)
He added: "When some official, some policeman, whoever, has made some mistake in taking some absurd decision, the first thing they do to fend off criticism is to blame it on health and safety and blame it on human rights. The truth is that someone's made a pig's ear in the office."
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INRATS.
Somebody tell me what I need to know.
P74. witness statement, interesting, apparrently.
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/E323B324-E7F3-471B-B3C5-BC5C2F7F6625/0/MC_ProceedingsBundle.pdf (http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/E323B324-E7F3-471B-B3C5-BC5C2F7F6625/0/MC_ProceedingsBundle.pdf)
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Be interested to know what people think about the idea of government backed mortgages for FTBs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15810966 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15810966)
I'm not usually one to agree with government policy and it would be all to easy to jump on the bandwagon that's already off and running and slag this idea off as idiotic.........
http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/allister-heath/let-s-not-go-back-sub-prime-loans (http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/allister-heath/let-s-not-go-back-sub-prime-loans)
......but I reckon this is simplistic and totally missing the point. The financial crisis wasn't caused by UK banks sustaining massive losses on UK repossessions anyway. If you look at the actual figures then it's a myth. Repossessions reached a high in 2008 of 103k but this was only up about 39k on "normal" levels (say in 2005).
Even if you were generous and said that banks sustained losses of £100k per repo (some would have been way way less) that would still mean less than £4bn more than during a normal year, £10bn in total or in other words FUCK ALL in comparison to the crippling losses they were facing because of the US sub prime lending mess. 95% mortgages didn't cause that either. Lending huge sums to people who were never going to stand a chance of paying the money back and calling the debt a AAA rated asset to be traded round the world did.
I've seen a lot of people saying this is just a mechanism to prop up unsustainable house prices but while this might be the case in London and parts of the South East I know that where I live the problem for FTBs isn't the price it's the requirement of a stupidly high deposit.
I haven't looked at the details yet but on the face of it a plan to get banks lending to people who can afford a mortgage but not a 20% deposit (or 25% to get a decent interest rate) has to be a good thing (if it is combined with sensible house building policies).
Hasn't it? :-\
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Of course, as with every economic argument it's not hard to find someone who agrees with you / has the completely opposite viewpoint to what other economists are saying!
http://www.economicsuk.com/blog/001540.html (http://www.economicsuk.com/blog/001540.html)
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Be interested to know what people think about the idea of government backed mortgages for FTBs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15810966 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15810966)
Interesting it's on new-build only.
I say interesting as in many cases I think that's where a lot of the uncertainty is...consider all of the posh new cosmopolitain flats build in cities like Sheffield, Leeds etc - does anyone know what they're actually worth?
Does anybody actually want to buy any of this type of property? I know that the firm behind Granary Wharf are falling over themselves to get shot of stuff at the moment.
There's a school of though that the explosion of flats in the early-mid 2000s was essentially building a load of stuff that nobody wants.
I think most developers thought that hip young things in their 20s would want to sip cappucinos on the balcony of these places, but the reality is that most of them want a house, a garden, a spare room, parking etc.
Or they though that middle-aged singles / divorcess would want a cool pad in the city so that they could relive their youth / enjoy their new-found freedom / sip cappucinos on the balcony...but the reality is that they want a spare room for when the kids visit at the weekends, a garden, somewhere to park etc etc.
Don't get me wrong, they've sold in their droves to wannabe BTL landlords who are currently housing / ripping off this missed generation of homebuyer, but who's buying them to actually live in?
Sorry, off-topic.
In my opinion, "getting Britain building" isn't really the issue - looking around there's a decent amount of stock on the market (maybe with the exception of London, but if you want to buy property in London, good luck with that...), it's "getting Britain buying" that's the issue.
(the crisis)...95% mortgages didn't cause that either. Lending huge sums to people who were never going to stand a chance of paying the money back and calling the debt a AAA rated asset to be traded round the world did...
...I know that where I live the problem for FTBs isn't the price it's the requirement of a stupidly high deposit.
Amen to that. Pulling high LTV mortgages for FTB was the biggest knee-jerk mistake that was made IMO, and the reason why there's zero liquidity in this market at the moment. Shutting off the sub-prime stuff was what was needed, but FTBs have been collatoral damage in this shutting of the stable door after the horse bolted.
The problem's going to be stopping the BTL carpet baggers from invading what should rightly be an initiative to get FTBs buying again, though how you stop that in an environment where the builders, agents, mortgage firms etc are all getting a slice of mortgage approvals would be tricky.
I haven't looked at the details yet but on the face of it a plan to get banks lending to people who can afford a mortgage but not a 20% deposit (or 25% to get a decent interest rate) has to be a good thing (if it is combined with sensible house building policies).
Agree with the point on deposits (god knows I'll be getting humped with my piffling 5% I've saved up), but why not open it up to all property?
Surely forcing the lenders to actually lend sensibly at higher LTVs, controlling the use of that type of product (i.e. applicants must prove / be certificated FTB) is the crux of the issue here.
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Hadn't seen it was only for new build properties as I was too busy doing my back of fag packet calculations but I agree entirely that it should be for all FTBs not just new builds.
consider all of the posh new cosmopolitain flats build in cities like Sheffield, Leeds etc - does anyone know what they're actually worth?
One bedroom city centre appartments are selling for anything from about £70k to £100k (agents asking for £120k for new flats in the St Pauls development aren't likely to get £120k imo). There are also plenty of shared ownership schemes available on some of them from around £50k.
Perspective - you can get a decent 3 bed terrace in a nice area with a garden for £115k.
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I say interesting as in many cases I think that's where a lot of the uncertainty is...consider all of the posh new cosmopolitain flats build in cities like Sheffield, Leeds etc - does anyone know what they're actually worth?
Does anybody actually want to buy any of this type of property? I know that the firm behind Granary Wharf are falling over themselves to get shot of stuff at the moment.
There's a school of though that the explosion of flats in the early-mid 2000s was essentially building a load of stuff that nobody wants.
I've talked to various people about these properties, particularly in Leeds, a large amount of them have been sold to people from outside of the country as long term investments, and they aren't that bothered whether they get rented or not in the meanwhile. I've heard that a lot of the blocks between Granary Wharf and the station that have places to rent are mainly empty, even if they are '90 % sold'.
I agree with you though, looking to move back to Yorks next year or the year after, and we'll be looking for somewhere with some character and a garden! One of my friends moved into a new build as they weren't bothered about how the place looked, only the location, and that the property was ready to live in and they had warranties against structural/electrical defects, etc. so they wouldn't have to do any DIY - convenience housing?
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Boost your butt (just not with this 'guy') (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/11/18/man-arrested-for-boosting-butts-with-cement-fix-a-flat/)
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I agree with you though, looking to move back to Yorks next year or the year after, and we'll be looking for somewhere with some character and a garden! One of my friends moved into a new build as they weren't bothered about how the place looked, only the location, and that the property was ready to live in and they had warranties against structural/electrical defects, etc. so they wouldn't have to do any DIY - convenience housing?
That's what I'm looking for at the moment, though at my budget (a mere £100k-ish, dictated by my paltry deposit) it's mainly back-to-backs in the areas I'm looking at.
On the new build thing, was considering this the other day - my Dad used to work for a firm that did a lot of new build stuff in East Anglia and after what he's told me there's no way I'd go near one. Apparently the build quality is sketchy to say the least, I'm assuming for reasons of speed / cost.
I wonder what it would cost to build a "proper" - say standard 3 bed semi with a drive and a garden - house from the ground up in today's money. Surely bricks and mortar / land / skilled labour can't be that expensive can it?
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I live in a new-build flatted development in Glasgow. I sip espresso on my balcony, not cappuccino. :coffee:
I'd much rather live somewhere with character, but, at the time we (me & the parents) were looking for a place (2003ish) the bubble was at its biggest. 2 bed tenement flats were going for silly money. There was a place that had an asking price of £112k, we put a bid in, got rejected. Found out it went for £188k :o
So, for us - fixed price, walk in, no hassle, seemed like the best option...apparently!
Problems we've had:
Dodgy combi boiler that is well known as "The worst combi on the market".
Leaks from above.
Leaks in our bathroom.
Cockroaches
Cracking render on outer walls leading to damp
Insufficient insulation on outer walls leading to condensation at the window.
Monoblock paving in Carpark subsiding
Problems with the flat roofs causing water ingress. (not in my flat fortunately)
I'm sure there was others, but I can't remember...
I'm also sure some modern developments are well built. Ours was clearly thrown up in a hurry, minimum spend, maximum profit and the insurance companies pick up the tab for all the problems. I think the law should be changed to hold the builders more liable for the shoddy work...
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Yup, though my 'period' house in Hull seems to be built of spit and soot. Since I've been there in 5 years, new roof, new windows, just having kitchen finished (that was £3k kitchen itself and £5k+ other structural shizzle due to rot bad building in first place etc..). So that's getting on 20 big ones in 5 years.... None of the above really showed up in the survey... House. Money. Fuck. As an old fella I knew described it..
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http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Top-Execs-High-Pay-Corrosive-skynews-364161092.html?x=0 (http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Top-Execs-High-Pay-Corrosive-skynews-364161092.html?x=0)
AAArrrgghhh!!
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I bought a house on a similar scheme to that now proposed back in 1990 (during the last bubble).
The Gov Guaranteed the deposit (allowing us to take a 100% mortgage) and gave tax relief to the developer in exchange for the developer paying 50% of our mortgage for the first 3 years....
We moved in.
Developer did a runner, payments stopped.
Bank immediately demanded we find a 10% deposit and refinance at a crippling 15% apr.
Ten years of legal battles ensued.
The developer made off with 12M quid and lives in Spain, Gov washed it's hands and said it was the developers liability.
I sold the house ten years later, with an equity of ........
Wait for it...
1.5K.
Yes, 1500 pounds sterling.
Just love these schemes, can't wait to see them return. :badidea:
:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:
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New tactic to reduce in-patient length of stay in hospitals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15833704) :sick:
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Richard Littlecock, scumbag@ Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2064445/Health-safety-regulations-This-madness-par-course.html)
Trendy teaching methods and ‘child-centred’ learning are what lie behind the fact that more than one million young people in Britain are not only unemployed, many of them are unemployable.
It’s also a crime to shut every school in Britain by staging a politically-motivated, self-indulgent strike....The strike is going ahead, even though only a third of 80% NASUWT members voted in favour.
Any teacher who walks out on November 30 should be sacked. Our children deserve better than this criminal neglect.
Where do you even begin? Liar - check! Rabble-rouser-check! Hypocrite -check! Children as political football- check!
I'll just settle for scumbag.
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New tactic to reduce in-patient length of stay in hospitals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15833704) :sick:
The complete lack of judgement of MPs never fails to astound me. This is one of the most idiotic things Lansley's done, amongst a very strong field of contenders.
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I hope it's as good quality care as we can possibly make it
Subtext: I'm not confident it actually will be, hence the qualifiers, diffident tone and striking inability to assert it will be good care.
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It’s also a crime to shut every school in Britain by staging a politically-motivated, self-indulgent strike....The strike is going ahead, even though only a third of 80% NASUWT members voted in favour.
Any teacher who walks out on November 30 should be sacked. Our children deserve better than this criminal neglect.
Let me see..
Proposals to increase working hours (current agreement max: 50 per week)
Proposals to extend working life
Average teacher's pension: £10,000
Proposed pension contribution increase: 3.2%
Time of govt intransigence before NAS balloting on action: 18 months
Current agreement date 2007 saw concessions from teachers and a declaration from government that teachers' pensions were sustainable and affordable. Why?
Could it be related to the interest-free loan the teachers pensions contributions afford the government? According to government data, this is a measly £46.6 bn in credit.
£46.6 billion. In credit.
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On a less serious note...
I shall mostly be taking the kids climbing on the 30th...
The daily wail can go describe a helix up it's own rectum (normal).
Imagine, at this point, I'm giving you a full on Wolfie Smith salute.
Up the revolution!!
(If you knew me you'd see why that might be funny. Not exactly a natural left leaner, but reaching a new level of pissed off with this bunch of Facist gits).
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Notes on a Police State #126:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/24/met-police-tasered-man-toy-gun (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/24/met-police-tasered-man-toy-gun)
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This is 100% certainly, definitely NOT a U-turn:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2011/nov/23/youth-jobless-will-coalition-resurrect-future-jobs-fund (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2011/nov/23/youth-jobless-will-coalition-resurrect-future-jobs-fund)
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Careful, rocks may become slippery when wet...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15878361 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15878361)
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Margaret Thatcher has been killed in a road accident
http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/pm_29233/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=yapQ62lH (http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/pm_29233/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=yapQ62lH)
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Privatisation of public sector isn't the only solution (http://sacsis.org.za/site/article/728.1)
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Bizarre article, don't remember seeing such innumeracy broadcast quite so publically before. From the comments, it doesn't look like the facts are too hot either.
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Got any links to more accurate pieces for us to read, I've not heard much about Iceland since the banking problems and UK investment was in the news a few years ago?
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Probably best to start here (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=iceland+recovery)?
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Cheers, might find time in about 23 months to sift through the ~1.6x108 results and guess at those which fit with your knowledge on the subject.
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I was reading it thinking "this doesn't make any sense" and then I realised why. The one fact that is definitely right is that Iceland's population is around 320,000 (or roughly the same as Leicester) which is just one reason why comparing to Greece, Italy etc doesn't work. I agree with the sentiment, but the article is nonsense.
Every piece that I've read re "Can Iceland be a model for anywhere else?" comes up with the conclusion that it can't.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/9550667.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/9550667.stm)
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=iceland8217s-recovery-provides-lessons-for-eurozone-plans-2011-11-06 (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=iceland8217s-recovery-provides-lessons-for-eurozone-plans-2011-11-06)
etc
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Found the Iceland Constitutional Council (http://stjornlagarad.is/english/) which will make for useful (and presumably accurate) reading on the matter.
IMF corroboration that public didn't/won't absorb bank losses (http://blog-imfdirect.imf.org/2011/10/26/how-iceland-recovered-from-its-near-death-experience/) (its a blog but from someone who works for the IMF).
I noticed that she wrote that they are part of the EU, which they're not, although as pointed out in the comments it is part of the European Free Trade Association.
EDIT : Cheers for additional reading Jasper
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I think now Solomon is in charge, things will get better. Katona was making a right mess of things.
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When you see the hourly charge out rates of insolvency practitioners (often upwards of £500 for their senior people), stories like this are unsurprising:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/nov/28/farepak-administration-costs-outstrip-compensation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/nov/28/farepak-administration-costs-outstrip-compensation)
It's a total scam. :spank:
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Damn. Old link! Nothing to see here.....
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Well worth reading Richard Peppiatt's witness statement regarding the disgraceful behaviour of The Daily Star:
http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Witness-Statement-of-Richard-Peppiatt.pdf (http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Witness-Statement-of-Richard-Peppiatt.pdf)
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Search & Rescue privatised as planned (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i18JD0N1InOPXcl15ueQz5ZBs-LA?docId=4cc) :thumbsdown:
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Andorra in America?
Polémica en EEUU sobre Andorra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP22Ys8__ro#)
:no:
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Search & Rescue privatised as planned :thumbsdown:
So....insurance required for all outdoor activities now? Fuck.
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Search & Rescue privatised as planned (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i18JD0N1InOPXcl15ueQz5ZBs-LA?docId=4cc) :thumbsdown:
To be eloquent about it...
This just sucks, in so many ways.
What we have here is "Golf Club" government...
"I say Rupert, which bit would you like to make money from... Quick, before they realised they didn't actually elect us..."
"Bunga Bunga, anyone?"
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Well worth reading Richard Peppiatt's witness statement regarding the disgraceful behaviour of The Daily Star:
http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Witness-Statement-of-Richard-Peppiatt.pdf (http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Witness-Statement-of-Richard-Peppiatt.pdf)
Gosh, strong stuff and a dismaying read.
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Paulk McMullan getting a grilling in the Leveson Inquiry (live video feed) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/nov/29/leveson-inquiry-nick-davies-paul-mcmullan-live)
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Paulk McMullan getting a grilling in the Leveson Inquiry (live video feed) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/nov/29/leveson-inquiry-nick-davies-paul-mcmullan-live)
Love it ...'privacy is for paedos'. I keep thinking of spitting image pigs.
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Did he really say that? Or was that NoW editorial policy?
I don't know about Spitting image, I'm spitting!
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Did he really say that? Or was that NoW editorial policy?
I don't know about Spitting image, I'm spitting!
Yes, apparently.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/29/paul-mcmullan-leveson-inquiry-phone-hacking?intcmp=239 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/29/paul-mcmullan-leveson-inquiry-phone-hacking?intcmp=239)
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ie who can name the country in the Americas that permanently lost its sovereignty, because of an unsustainable debt position, with no shots fired?
Was it Haiti? :-\
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Jeremy Clarkson announces his intention to compete head-to-head with Sting and Bonio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813)
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Jeremy Clarkson announces his intention to compete head-to-head with Sting and Bonio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813)
What utter nonce sense about referring to the police and suing, everyone knows he's a cock who purposefully says provocative nonsense.
This /via Ben Goldacre
...outrageous politically incorrect opinions which he has: every week, to a deadline, for money.
Stewart Lee on Top Gear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0i0RXMvzMs#ws)
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Dave Gorman hits the nail on the head:
http://gormano.blogspot.com/2011/12/jeremy-clarkson-should-be-lined-up-and.html (http://gormano.blogspot.com/2011/12/jeremy-clarkson-should-be-lined-up-and.html)
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Meanwhile, the hospitals are inundated on their first day back to work after the strikes, with people complaining of injuries from jerked knees.
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Time to get your tin-foil hats out and prepare for some Assange fellatio
Spy Files: WikiLeaks exposes dark secrets of surveillance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfdCBdOHoYA#)
More here (http://wikileaks.org/the-spyfiles.html)
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You wouldn't steal a car would you?
But music is ok (http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-corruption-scandal-surrounds-anti-piracy-campaign-111201/)
:lol:
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Man charged with eating policeman's notebook:
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/9400106.Police_officer_s_notebook_eaten/ (http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/9400106.Police_officer_s_notebook_eaten/)
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Most expensive car-crash to date? 8 Ferrari's, 3 Mercs, 1 Lamborghini & two other luxury cars (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16027006) :lol:
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Just when you think the big banks can't stoop any lower.........
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16030451 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16030451)
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Just when you think our government can't stoop any lower.......
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/12/in-bed-with-lola-and-gulnara/ (http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/12/in-bed-with-lola-and-gulnara/)
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Its the old boys (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/caught-on-camera-top-lobbyists-boasting-how-they-influence-the-pm-6272760.html) :wank:
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It's shit that stuff like this goes on but I'd like to see if this dick could actually back his claims up. Personally I doubt it.
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Fake human skeleton found to be real:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16037506 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16037506)
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Interesting perspective on the Guardian / LSE / Newsnight riot interviews:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/12/summer-riots-england (http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/12/summer-riots-england)
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I suppose it was too much to hope for, but it's a good runner-up…
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2nuhyeo.jpg)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12982079http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12982079 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12982079http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12982079)
(from April, btw)
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Sometimes I just fucking despair of this country.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/11/katie-price-next-police-chief (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/11/katie-price-next-police-chief)
Among those reported to have expressed an interest before the election process begins next year is 64-year-old television presenter Ross, who is a visiting professor at the Jill Dando Crime Science institute at University College London. A police source also indicated that 33-year-old Price, aka Jordan, who increased her national fame after appearing on the ITV reality show I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here! was interested.
The source said: "Most bizarrely of all, Hampshire [police force] told us when Katie Price was asked why she'd moved from Sussex to Hampshire, she suggested she'd be a PCC candidate there."
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Only sometimes?
A true optimist...
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Shit medicine. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15113440)
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Of course nothing can go wrong (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/16137543)
Check the definition of blindness according to the Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Protocol_on_Blinding_Laser_Weapons), we won't take all of your sight, just most of it :wank: time to dig out the 8).
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Absolutely stunning ignorance. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2011/12/12/if-i-was-a-poor-black-kid/) :wall:
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Absolutely stunning ignorance. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2011/12/12/if-i-was-a-poor-black-kid/) :wall:
That black kid from West Philadelphia should move [in] with his auntie and uncle in Bel-Air. :clown:
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The concept of The Fresh Prince is probably actually more realistic than this guys idea of what's possible.
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That's outstanding, I couldn't actually finish it. Was it an advert for various study tools disguised by a computer program to look like an article?!
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Technology can help these kids. But only if the kids want to be helped. Yes, there is much inequality. But the opportunity is still there in this country for those that are smart enough to go for it.
That's the conclusion Stubbs. It's kind of inconclusive muddled and facile, like the essay which precedes it.
If I were a rich white guy, I'd learn to think.
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Rick Perry is a moron:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8967703/Rick-Perry-in-Kim-Jong-the-Second-gaffe.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8967703/Rick-Perry-in-Kim-Jong-the-Second-gaffe.html)
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Rick Perry is a moron:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8967703/Rick-Perry-in-Kim-Jong-the-Second-gaffe.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8967703/Rick-Perry-in-Kim-Jong-the-Second-gaffe.html)
Genius.
I suppose he thinks "illing" is a malaysian great-grandchild.
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;D
Not that it should be seen as a barrier to becoming president of course....
George W Bush referred to the dictator as Kim Jong Two when he was running for president.
:wall:
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Who the fuck is Rick Perry anyway? :shrug:
(Rhetorical of course, I've read the linked article and now know he's a US politician self-serving wanker).
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Perry was one of the leading candidates for the Republican presidential nomination until he did this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/10/rick-perry-forgets-agency-scrap (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/10/rick-perry-forgets-agency-scrap)
Although this hadn't done him any favours either:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/star-spangled-staggers/2011/11/speech-perry-republican (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/star-spangled-staggers/2011/11/speech-perry-republican)
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He also did this advert, which led to an awesome parody
Strong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA#ws)
Rick Perry - "Jacket" ("Strong" Parody) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtFzuGeCfkc#ws)
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This is quite an eye opener... eek... "What happened on Flight 447..."
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877 (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877)
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This is quite an eye opener... eek... "What happened on Flight 447..."
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877 (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877)
fuck me! its scary that they designed that aircraft so that one pilot can't tell what the other one is doing with the stick.
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Kin ell. I'll avoid showing that to Mrs S who is already terrified of flying.
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That's terrifying! You think you're OK in these modern planes, and it is safer than driving, but stories like that are enough to out anyone off!
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Modern planes are still under the control of humans who it would appear are still able to make stupendous mistakes.
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So. Boris Johnson then. Spending the thick end of 300 grand on Olympic ticket, but "not from the taxpayer", but from "private sources"
So in other words "Bribes".
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The USA has left behind "a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people" according to President Obama:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/22/baghdad-bomb-attacks-iraq (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/22/baghdad-bomb-attacks-iraq)
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The USA has left behind "a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people" according to President Obama:
riigggghhhttt and I just left my work's toilet in a fit state for the next user
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SPACEBALLS!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8972985/Space-ball-drops-on-Namibia.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8972985/Space-ball-drops-on-Namibia.html)
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SPACEBALLS!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8972985/Space-ball-drops-on-Namibia.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8972985/Space-ball-drops-on-Namibia.html)
That'll be 'roid loaded East European shot putt athletes from the height of the cold war.
The shots are only now returning from orbit...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/entertainment-arts-16302643?psdata=11_3_r8_4_LW9_10_rCD11__CK12_14_15_
Pneumonia eh?
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Israeli riot police break up fight between religious groups in Bethlehem.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16346002 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16346002)
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Body parts are legally accountable (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-train-fatality-suit-20111229,0,1641941.story) :shrug: :no: :thumbsdown:
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This New Year's Honours mularkey.
Did anyone else confuse Gerald Ronson with Gerald Ratner?
(Or was it just me?)
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Good old Europe, eh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16373806 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16373806)
But Mr Helmer said he was holding on until his successor was chosen.
And here's me thinking that when your elected representative steps down, you hold a new election.
Boy. Do I feel stupid now!
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Magistrates - they're bastards aren't they?
Magistrates commit man accused of murder on remand - despite the fact they're not in a position to hear the evidence
Then again…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-16380751 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-16380751)
A man describing himself as "Psycho Stapleton" has appeared in court charged with murdering student Anuj Bidve who was shot dead on Boxing Day.
[edit. Missing "not" inserted]
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Anyone in Manchester should keep their eyes peeled for a thief with a 5ft alligator under his arm (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2012/jan/04/alligator-stolen-manchester) , as its "aggressive"! :slap: :lol:
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Don't shoot promotional advertising material on nudist beaches (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16426024) :lol:
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Bum rap (http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/06/czech_cops_arrest_bottom_thief/)
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Coincidentally @bengoldacre has just been tweeting about this case from 2009:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/21/bum_bombing/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/21/bum_bombing/)
The above (very funny) write up from the register containing possibly the most bottom related puns in one ar(se)ticle ever.
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Coincidentally @bengoldacre has just been tweeting about this case from 2009:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/21/bum_bombing/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/21/bum_bombing/)
The above (very funny) write up from the register containing possibly the most bottom related puns in one ar(se)ticle ever.
Kama Khazi :)
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Kama Khazi :)
Suicide Bummer
Great new source of fictional stories & statistics (http://storify.com/number10gov)
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Keeping things in check (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jan/11/lords-welfare-bill-defeat-for-government)
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:great:
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"If we are going to rob the poor to pay the rich, then we enter into a different form of morality,"
True.
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"Dear Disabled and Sick people of Britain. I'm sorry, we can't afford you anymore... Please try again in two years, when I've finished paying for my new Ferrari and I'll think about it. Love and best wishes,
Dave.
Xxx"
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A willingness to give appropriate support to disabled people is a measure of a soceity's moral compass. Those who are dependent on others have few options to remedy any neglect. From each according to his ability..
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Polly Toynbee's excellent (IMO) view
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/12/welfare-cuts-cameron (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/12/welfare-cuts-cameron)
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Polly Toynbee's excellent (IMO) view
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/12/welfare-cuts-cameron (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/12/welfare-cuts-cameron)
Having read this.
Currently trying to get off the benefits and back to work.
Being in the middle of all the cuts.
Reaching the end of my very short and flimsy tether...
Please refer to my previous comment.
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"Accountant sang sick song as he ripped off the public"
http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=257&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=422831&SubjectId=36 (http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=257&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=422831&SubjectId=36)
:lol:
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Bloody Jobsworths! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-16099658)
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The Guardians choice of picture and headline made me laugh today....
(http://webmedia.newseum.org/newseum-multimedia/dfp/jpg16/lg/UK_TG.jpg)
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Dynamite
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The Guardians choice of picture and headline made me laugh today....
(http://webmedia.newseum.org/newseum-multimedia/dfp/jpg16/lg/UK_TG.jpg)
I've spent the day in Italy with a bunch of Maritime professionals, picking apart the skippers every move...
It's rather a hot topic here right now.
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What's the consensus amongst people who know about this sort of stuff Matt? Must be the captain's fault as per what the company is saying?
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I'd like to show solidarity with the Guy, but....
After review today, the bloke is a complete and utter Numpty! (that's an industry term, or at least, a polite translation of a more nautical expression).
He simply had no business taking a ship in that close. There are so many things that could go wrong, hitting uncharted rocks is just one.
Think of it as an airline pilot flying a 747 at treetop level, for a laugh, or a double decker bus driver, playing chicken with low bridges...
Even the Landiest Lubber, would have seen the risks...
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With great responsibility comes great EGO.
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Thought that might be the case! He is Italian after all (eh Nibile?)...... ;)
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I feel ashamed he's Italian.
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I'm the only non-Itaian in the office, here today and the consensus is with Lore...
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Heard on the radio here yesterday that he left the ship early in the evacuation too. Shipping industry spokesman was unimpressed.
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This........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jan/17/costa-concordia-captain-phone-call-video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jan/17/costa-concordia-captain-phone-call-video)
....would appear to confirm that. Pretty damning.
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Di Falco was certainly telling him how it is. :chair:
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he's a real piece of shit. not only he abandoned the ship early. he didn't send the sos telling it was a technical problem. later he tried to escape with a taxi - on a fucking micro island, fucking idiot - and then wanted the black box to be given to him personally after it would be recovered. mother fucker.
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But the company admitted the speech bubble from the girl’s shorts was an ‘error’ and it should have been from her mouth. (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/nightclub_s_banned_from_promising_students_can_get_laid_1_4152519)
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It was banned by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) after it was found to link alcohol with sexual success.
Surely a rare case of an advertiser telling the truth. :shrug:
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Oh the irony :whistle: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9022349/Costa-Concordia-Titanic-theme-tune-played-as-cruise-ship-hit-rocks.html)
I tripped & fell, honest Guvnor (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9022170/Costa-Concordia-captain-says-he-tripped-and-fell-into-lifeboat.html)
Still, nice to see the piss being taken out of the piece of shit (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9022477/Costa-Concordia-Italians-buy-t-shirts-with-Get-back-on-board-for-s-sake-logo.html) (although of course the loss of life shouldn't be trivialised).
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life is strange sometimes. I read on the newpapers today that the grandfather of two survivors of the Concordia died on the Titanic.
I have listened to the phone calls many times now and still that phrase "salga a bordo, cazzo" has a great effect on me. the Porth Authority commander, De Falco, recently asked to be left alone, not to be called a hero, and then named all the ones who where there on the ship and at sea, bringing people to safety.
there was also an officer, who helped out many many passengers, and who broke a leg in the process, I think he was searching for people trapped. he got trapped himself and was rescued after spending more than one day in the water.
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Does anyone else not find this witch hunt of the captain a bit unsavoury?
Would the phone conversation between the Captain and De Falco be released by the Italian “Prosecutor” (I’m not sure of the correct translation so am happy to be corrected) to the worlds media to allow them to subject him to the trial by media that’s currently going on?
Yes, the captain fucked up, yes, he’s not exactly covered himself in glory but I’d like to see a full investigation into what happened be carried out by someone who has a bit of knowledge of maritime issues, i.e. not a journalist before I pass judgement on someone.
I also feel that Costa Cruises (or whatever the holding company is called) seems to have avoided blame and turned on the man they employed to captain their ship. I’m not sure I’ve even seen an apology or condolences from them, just a big knife in a man’s back. The boat seems to have sailed a similar course before and they had done nothing to prevent it happening again.
Also, De Falco shouldn’t be called a hero, he did nothing heroic. I’m pretty uncomfortable with his manner of dealing with the captain, the phrase, “I am going to make you pay for this” wasn’t exactly helpful. The “heroes” were the people on the ground/water helping.
All of the above kind of reads as though I believe the captain is blameless. I don’t, but I’d be keen for an impartial investigation to come to that conclusion before I start pointing the finger of blame at one man for this tragedy.
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Pretty much :agree: with you, but the fact he was off the ship so quickly when he's been trusted with the safety of the crew & passengers by his employers, the other crew members and the passengers himself suggests, to my mind, that he should have hung around and overseen the evacuation. That he then showed no willingness to return suggests he shouldn't have had the repsonsibility in the first place. If he's now claiming to have left the ship by accident then he should have returned.
Sounds like he's not a very considerate or responsible person to me.
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To me, it seems like he panicked. The problem is, you never know how you’ll act in a crisis until it happens. I know he’s paid to do a job, a big part of which is taking responsibility when things go wrong and to stand up and be counted, but all the training in the world does mean that one will cope.
I’d like to think that if I was put in his situation, I’d have stayed until everyone was off and I’d done all I could. In reality, I may find myself hiding in a cupboard shitting myself that it was all my fault and I’d gone into shock.
I’d just prefer the facts to be established by an unbiased authority before we make him a worldwide hate figure.
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Also, De Falco shouldn’t be called a hero, he did nothing heroic. I’m pretty uncomfortable with his manner of dealing with the captain, the phrase, “I am going to make you pay for this” wasn’t exactly helpful. The “heroes” were the people on the ground/water helping.
this is exactly what De Falco said.
yes, the witch hunt is fully on, but everyday the captain says or does something that puts him under even worse light.
one of the chiefs of the Costa Cruises appeared on tv very early after the tragedy and he was truly saddened, to the point of tears. he had very sincere words for the victims' parents and didn't say much about the captain. I think it was well done.
I found out that in the Italian marine law, the captain have to be the last one to leave the ship. it's not a romantic tradition as I thought, it's a precise duty that's imposed by the law.
if it turns out that the captain did his best, well all the better. I seriously doubt so.
the tradition of sailing close to islands is well known, it happens with Giglio, Capri and many other islands. I think it's one of those things that are prohibited but still keep happening because of an ancient tradition.
it's called "inchino".
for thousands that went well this one fucked up big time. he wasn't qualified to take manually control of the ship, as it showed.
there's still a dignity to be kept when everything else is lost: lying and denying doesn't represent that to me. the man lied about everything: the number of passengers still aboard after he abandoned the ship (he said 200, they still were 4000, all of them); why he wasn't aboard (he tripped and fell on a boat???!!!); he tried to escape with a taxi; he tried to get the black box.
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also, and excuse me if I keep talking:
there's a whitch hunt for sure, but captain Schettino represents in this moment, all the stereotypes about Italians come true.
that's why everyone here hates him, because nothing hurts more than a stereotype that's true.
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but captain Schettino represents in this moment, all the stereotypes about Italians come true.
I've not seen him riding around on a scooter in shades looking effortlessly stylish and shouting "Ciao Bella" to lots of pretty girls all whilst drinking an espresso so he's still got a few boxes to tick in my eyes.
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Finally getting the full tapes in the office this morning, resulted in a large amount of swearing... I believe " pigs" and " son of" featured strongly. The rest was Unrepeatable.
Given that my colleagues are quite used to investigating Marine accidents and not given to such outbursts, I found this telling.
I should add, we were in no way part of the official investigation, just a bunch of surveyors, pulling the odd string, in the interests of learning something (and really should have been doing other things).
I don't speak enough Italian to judge the tapes accurately, but the fact that so many in the office professed shame by proxy...
Well, what can I say.
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To me, it seems like he panicked. The problem is, you never know how you’ll act in a crisis until it happens.
Quite. Either he is a complete shit, or he discovered when the crunch came that he isn't who he thought he was. Can any of us say for sure "that couldn't happen to me"?
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Its not exact but compare and contrast Tevelyan Richards.
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Well you've picked two extremes there. In Schettino's case I'd expect it's a lot easier to keep your composure and do the right thing if you don't believe you've just wilfully caused disaster.
What we know so far looks very bad, but I would add that we don't know all the facts and the ones we do are being leaked which is hardl;y an objective portrayal of events.
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I seem to remember the greek captain doing similar when the Oceanos sank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTS_Oceanos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTS_Oceanos)
The "entertainment crew" included Moss and Tracy (mentioned in the text) who I used to know. They were also on the Achille Lauro when it was hijacked. I think they stuck with land based entertainment from then on.
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Not leaked, not exactly.
I've heard about 30min of other tapes (not in the public domain) and seen the voyage data recordings from the vessel.
I've had 23 years at sea in various types of vessel and I've been a surveyor for the last five.
The evidence against him is very, very damming.
He is not being made a scape goat.
To compare, Smith caused the accident that took the Titanic. Fiction aside, his subsequent actions meant that it was the first disaster, so far from land, in which so many SURVIVED!
He then choose to stay with the vessel. All the actual evidence (and, trust me, all mariners study this disaster to death, for every course/exam we ever take), show the crew to have acted calmly a clearly throughout. The basic reason for the high loss of life, was poor design and insufficient equipment. (The film is complete bollocks).
Others will have to share the blame, each officer who was aware of the Captains intentions, was fully empowered by law and custom to prevent his actions and they did not.
This is not the 19th century.
He was not Ahab.
He did pull off a great manoeuvre and prevented much higher loss of life by bring the ship back into the shallows after the impact.
On the other hand...
He was able to control his actions and carry out a difficult task under great pressure (if he'd turned the other way, the vessel would have capsized in deeper water and "the other way" was the more intuitive route to the shallows).
It is a fair point, to say you never know how you will react when the shit comes down.
But, you cannot get to that position (not in a western nation), without being tested and tried in a way that few other professions can claim.
Too early to judge?
No.
He should not have taken that vessel into those waters.
Everything else is window dressing.
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Ahab may differ in his total control but his is a story of hubris madness and disaster.
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Thanks for the not leaked info Matt. Really interesting.
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Interesting reading Matt. I did wonder to what extent the Captain was being set up as the fall guy (still do). It does though sound like the tapes have the nautical equivalent of "hold my beer and watch this..."
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I did wonder to what extent the Captain was being set up as the fall guy (still do).
Surely the tapes are sub-judice? Or is it trial by media? My point is that whether it's a no-brainer (or not) what happened, it should be the subject of a fair trial.
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I did wonder to what extent the Captain was being set up as the fall guy (still do).
Surely the tapes are sub-judice? Or is it trial by media? My point is that whether it's a no-brainer (or not) what happened, it should be the subject of a fair trial.
Aaaah. Bless!
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I did wonder to what extent the Captain was being set up as the fall guy (still do).
Surely the tapes are sub-judice? Or is it trial by media? My point is that whether it's a no-brainer (or not) what happened, it should be the subject of a fair trial.
You're right, they should be.
They're not.
And, I hope he gets a fair trial.
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I did wonder to what extent the Captain was being set up as the fall guy (still do).
Surely the tapes are sub-judice? Or is it trial by media? My point is that whether it's a no-brainer (or not) what happened, it should be the subject of a fair trial.
Yes a fair Italian trial. Just like that Amanda Knox got.
Ahem.
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Spamspamspamspamspamspamspamspam
Wonderful Spam, Luvverly Spam
One more for you all to sign
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/5646
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Where's the Lansley, Cameron & Osborne equivalents?
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Oh dear. How sad. What a pity. Never mind.
http://johannhari.com/ (http://johannhari.com/)
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Are All Coppers Bastards?
Or just their children?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children-activists?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children-activists?CMP=twt_gu)
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Are All Coppers Bastards?
Or just their children?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children-activists?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children-activists?CMP=twt_gu)
No.
Ta very much.
Some of them are, though.
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/robber_confesses_after_bad_karma_1_4169806 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/robber_confesses_after_bad_karma_1_4169806)
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(http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/my-name-is-earl/my-name-is-earl-20090526144523_625x352.jpg)
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Quite frankly you had got away with it and there was no way you would ever have been prosecuted. All the evidence had been disposed of.
brilliant
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One for the Holocaust deniers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363)
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One for the Holocaust deniers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16657363)
(http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/119/8/6/hitler_on_holiday_by_aegiandyad-d3f5qdk.jpg)
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"There's a war going on, and people on drugs are winning it! Well what does that tell you about drugs? Some smart, creative motherfuckers on that side" - Bill Hicks (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-waves-white-flag-in-disastrous-war-on-drugs-1870218.html)
:2thumbsup:
Never one to miss a beat opportunity to make money (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jan/24/cannabis-tax-branson-mps-virgin)
In other news, go Maus!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/GTomc.jpg)
:lol:
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Eee.
There's more going on than you know about, isn't there?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/gordon-ramsays-dwarf-pr0n-double-found-dead-in-a-badger-den-in-wales/story-e6frev20-1226137951576 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/gordon-ramsays-dwarf-pr0n-double-found-dead-in-a-badger-den-in-wales/story-e6frev20-1226137951576)
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:blink:
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Eee.
There's more going on than you know about, isn't there?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/gordon-ramsays-dwarf-pr0n-double-found-dead-in-a-badger-den-in-wales/story-e6frev20-1226137951576 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/gordon-ramsays-dwarf-pr0n-double-found-dead-in-a-badger-den-in-wales/story-e6frev20-1226137951576)
That's gotta be a windup, straight out of The Day Today. 'Sacked chimneysweep pumps boss full of mayonaise'.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-16700983 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-16700983)
OMG I'm going to drown. Help LOL.
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Superb story :)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/26/canadian-teenagers-lego-man-space (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/26/canadian-teenagers-lego-man-space)
Lego Man in Space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQwLmGR6bPA#ws)
Beats the shit out of NikatWorks lego diggers ;)
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Fantastic! :clap2:
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In other Lego news.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/26/doll-protesters-problem-russian-police (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/26/doll-protesters-problem-russian-police)
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:clap2: Read that earlier, amazed that they haven't just taken a dust-pan & brush to them.
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I'm amazed that this story hasn't made the national papers
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/owls_mascot_oz_pitalised_after_accident_1_4176504 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/owls_mascot_oz_pitalised_after_accident_1_4176504)
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I'm amazzed this one did…
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/rod-liddle-disabled-the-sun/ (http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/rod-liddle-disabled-the-sun/)
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/james-delingpole-disabled-agrees-with-rod-liddle/ (http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/james-delingpole-disabled-agrees-with-rod-liddle/)
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Local news: for local people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-16739002 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-16739002)
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Boldy going where no man has gone before...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-16772477 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-16772477)
£700k... lmfao..
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9.9% drop in applicants through UCAS in total boosted by an increase in foreign applicants
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16787948 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16787948)
Edit - read it wrong says 50% more than other parts of the uk (cheers slacker for pointing it out)
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The 50% is England relative to other countries Wales (1.9% reduction), Ireland (4% reduction) & Scotland (1.5%).
The reduction in England (not the UCAS total) is 9.9% hence the "over 50% more reduction than other countries" statement which you've mis-interpreted. :chair:
Nationwide applications via UCAS have decreased by 8.7%.
But these are pretty meaningless point estimates comparing this year to last, to place these in context you'd need to know what the trend has been like in previous years. If 2010 to 2011 saw an increase of 12% then what you may be seeing is a return to normal levels and last year was a blip with higher numbers of applications.
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IIRC, last year was about 5% over... so its a real term loss of 5%.
From our own figures there is a big disparity amongst subjects. Possibly not surprisingly, some of the 'arts' subjects have had a big drop in applications (20%+) whereas sciences are generally holding their own....
Also, if you assume that the 'big' Universities are not so affected, this means a greater impact on the 'lesser' institutions...
What we've seen and what the UCAS figures show is that prior to Xmas they were only 4-5% down (or the same in some cases) but the traditional late surge just hasnt materialised....
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It's not going away Rupert......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/29/data-pool-3-sun-arrests-murdoch (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/29/data-pool-3-sun-arrests-murdoch)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html)
Arf!
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The comments! :lol:
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I suppose it just reflects the idiots who feel the need to comment...
IMO an intelligent person would file the story away, wonder if things really were that simple,
Ponder the fact that 15000 people out of 6 billion may, in fact, not be representative and carry on trying to work out how people end up with ridiculous extreme views of any colour.
Briefly feel sorry for them.
And try to get on with life as best they can.
Me?
I'd like to borrow a credo from the Hippocratic.
"First, do no harm."
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No link to the original article, but with N = 15,000 even small differences are likely to be 'statistically significant'.
File under bullshit.
And stop reading the fucking Daily Fail! :spank:
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Stats or not, it's true. ;)
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It may be statistically significant, but is the size of the difference actually meaningful? Very much doubt it.
Its like saying "This drug has been shown to produce a statistically significant reduction in blood pressure in a study of 20,000 individuals compared to this other drug" yet the reduction is 0.1mmHg which is such a small difference as to be meaningless, but its still statistically significant.
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:slap:
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:oops: :sorry:
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:lol: :hug:
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:-* :beer2: :pissed:
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For anyone unsure about what the NHS "reforms" actually mean, Ben Goldacre has summed it up nicely in 5 tweets:
http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/what-will-happen-with-the-nhs-bill-in-5-tweet (http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/what-will-happen-with-the-nhs-bill-in-5-tweet)
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Right-wingers are stupid, reports the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html).
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Right-wingers are stupid, reports the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html).
I was going to post that, instead here's Charlie Brooker's take on it (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/05/daily-mail-calls-rightwingers-stupid)
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ARFK linked to this story on the last page but thanks for the Brooker link as he's totally nailed it again.
She claims intellectual snootiness is ugly, which it is, but unfortunately she says it in such a stupid way it's impossible for anyone smarter than a steak-and-ale pie not to look down on her.
:lol:
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For anyone unsure about what the NHS "reforms" actually mean, Ben Goldacre has summed it up nicely in 5 tweets:
http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/what-will-happen-with-the-nhs-bill-in-5-tweet (http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/what-will-happen-with-the-nhs-bill-in-5-tweet)
I haven't heard anything in the news about the commissioning side of things.
My wife is one of the people with commissioning expertise. The reforms propose that she, and everyone like her, are moved to local authorities outside of any direct NHS structure, and that the council have to find the money from their existing, shrinking, seriously under pressure budget to pay for them, even though the work they do will effectively be for the GP consortia. Apparently my wife's boss is really struggling to persuade the council that what they do is important.
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The long arm of the law (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9066337/CCTV-police-officer-chased-himself-after-being-mistaken-for-burglar.html) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Japan prepares for Rhino escape (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16950361)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098610/Theyve-cracked-Two-British-climbers-conquer-160ft-fissure-Utah-national-park.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098610/Theyve-cracked-Two-British-climbers-conquer-160ft-fissure-Utah-national-park.html)
No big deal. Alex Honnold has completed many more dangerous climbs but hats off to the boys for a good try.
- joe, Arizona, 09/2/2012 14:03
From some1 whos dying of cancer ask me why lifes precious and should not be so carelessly risked!!!! What a complete disregard for themselves and for others. For me heroes are people who selflessly risked their lives for others or the people I see in the cancer ward struggling through arduous gruelling radio/ chemotherapy treatments, not these two people so a bit of realism and perspective PLEASE!!!!!
I can understand risking ones life for a cause: becoming an astronaut, firefighter, policeman, or joining the military, etc. But I cannot see why this would interest anyone but the two who did it.
- ja, usa, 9/2/2012 13:06
theyre using ropes!!!! and what are those metal things?? Dosent look "freeclimbing to me??!?!?!?!1"
- soon to bald, preston, 9/2/2012 11:42
I am sorry, I dont see the point of this silliness. Surely they could be doing something of use to society. Ridiculous! What would have happened if they had got stuck fast? How many people would have had to risk their lives in an attempt to save them?
- Angela, Morpeth, 9/2/2012 11:38
You got your 15 minutes, yawn...next...
- jb, Glasgow, 9/2/2012 11:11
:lol:
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I think the dail Fail has a crack team of
lobotomised toads workers typing goading comments for every story...
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What, was the 'Sport' getting to intellectual for you? :lol:
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Um, most of the people I've met on the cancer ward, would give anything to try that. Most find they wish they'd tried quite a few things, when they could.
Glad there's plenty of muppets in the world...
I mean imagine 6 billion people heading for the crag of a Saturday...
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At least the idiotic comments are getting the worst ratings.
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Luurcal 'ull drinker gets fed up with smoking ban... some handy barrel disarming methods in use!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anQ0GYoykqg&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anQ0GYoykqg&feature=player_embedded#)!
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nice to see people fight back like that. what a dick hope he got battered threatening peoples lifes like that. :chair:
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But what about the all important question?
Is he a City, FC, or Rovers fan?
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But what about the all important question?
Is he a City, FC, or Rovers fan?
Sharks I recon..
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Man United.
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Maybe if they'd learnt how to use the map they wouldn't have had to set fire to it (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17028347) :wall:
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There was me thinking what a fucking hypocrite Cameron is going on about binge drinking after his Bullingdon Club exploits and then I saw this:
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/02/david-cameron-binge-drinking-urbium-tiger-tiger/ (http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/02/david-cameron-binge-drinking-urbium-tiger-tiger/)
What a total cunt the man is.
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The Mash is good on the same topic:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/cameron-to-make-being-drunk-much-safer-201202154896/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/cameron-to-make-being-drunk-much-safer-201202154896/)
A Downing Street source said: "As we hurtle towards the point where the economy stops being Gordon Brown's fault it is important that we keep everyone very, very drunk."
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From the "Four Lions" school of
terrorism assasination
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/15/bangkok-assassins-not-terrorists-official (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/15/bangkok-assassins-not-terrorists-official)
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Stay on the paaaaath.
http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/News/Killer-beast-warning-to-North-crofters-07022012.htm (http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/News/Killer-beast-warning-to-North-crofters-07022012.htm)
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There was me thinking what a fucking hypocrite Cameron is going on about binge drinking after his Bullingdon Club exploits and then I saw this:
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/02/david-cameron-binge-drinking-urbium-tiger-tiger/ (http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/02/david-cameron-binge-drinking-urbium-tiger-tiger/)
What a total cunt the man is.
No axes for that website to grind tho', are there?
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http://www.straightstatistics.org/article/pm-exaggerates-cost-alcohol-nhs (http://www.straightstatistics.org/article/pm-exaggerates-cost-alcohol-nhs)
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Tescos offering permanent night shifts for.....Job Seekers Allowance (http://jobcentreplus.jobhits.co.uk/TESCO-NIGHT-SHIFT-id-BSD-27442) cheap fucking scumbag profiteers.
Apparently used 1400 such workers 4 months, if they'd paid them minimum wage (which is more than JSA) it would have cost them ~£1million, not a huge amount for a company that posts profits in the billions.
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Tis a disgrace that.
If you want to get even more angry then read this excellent article that explains what the credit ratings agencies actually do (clue; it's all a fucking scam):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/feb/15/credit-ratings-agencies-moodys (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/feb/15/credit-ratings-agencies-moodys)
Though Hannover was not a client of Moody's, the agency said that it had nevertheless decided to rate them free of charge. Ominously, the agency hoped that in the future Hannover would be interested in paying for the service itself. "We need to act," said Hannover's chairman, Wilhelm Zeller.
Unfortunately, Hannover did not act soon enough. Moody's began rating Hannover's debt status, but the insurance company had already enlisted the services of S&P and AM Best (another, smaller agency). In 2003, Moody's downgraded its debt to junk status, and because of the respect paid to Moody's valuations, shareholders panicked, sold their stock, and Hannover Re lost $175m (£111m) in an afternoon. Moody's declined to comment for the Washington Post piece.
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigel-keer--naked-ramber-fined-%C2%A3315.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigel-keer--naked-ramber-fined-%C2%A3315.html)
You can sometimes see some funny things at Caley.
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Tescos offering permanent night shifts for.....Job Seekers Allowance (http://jobcentreplus.jobhits.co.uk/TESCO-NIGHT-SHIFT-id-BSD-27442) cheap fucking scumbag profiteers.
Not just Tescos (http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?page_id=16)
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-- In the News Corp Office --
'HA. HA. HA. Good one Rupert, so you wanted NOTW to be called the SS all along!! Now lets go pay off some judges!'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17070555 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17070555)
(The Sun to launch the catchily titled Sun on Sunday)
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Two months (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17088173) :no:
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http://www.superyachttimes.com/editorial/18/article/id/7992
Want to see a lot of money go down the drain?
In my world when things go bad, they go a long way bad.
Last Friday.
As they say, worse things happen at sea....
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Everything's OK.
It's alright!
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/2/21/1329829077744/Downing-Street-street-par-007.jpg)
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http://gu.com/p/35jj7
Love to see democracy in action...
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http://gu.com/p/35jj7 (http://gu.com/p/35jj7)
Love to see democracy in action...
Simplest solution?
Hand out the cyanide pills to everyone, and let the dolphins and whales take over the planet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17116882 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17116882)
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http://gu.com/p/35jj7 (http://gu.com/p/35jj7)
Love to see democracy in action...
Simplest solution?
Hand out the cyanide pills to everyone, and let the dolphins and whales take over the planet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17116882 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17116882)
those Dolphins are bastards... one knocked me off my bike the other day, then came back around and laughed at me.. Wanker.
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http://gu.com/p/35jj7 (http://gu.com/p/35jj7)
Love to see democracy in action...
Simplest solution?
Hand out the cyanide pills to everyone, and let the dolphins and whales take over the planet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17116882 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17116882)
those Dolphins are bastards... one knocked me off my bike the other day, then came back around and laughed at me.. Wanker.
Damn right.
I got sideswiped on the A67 by a fucking porpoise in a pantechnicon.
But fair do's. Both a right whale in a semi-truck and an orca in a 42-ton 18 wheeler both pulled over to see if I was OK and administer emergency first aid before calling for an ambulance and a pick-up wagon.
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was it an accident or on porpoise?
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I'm cetacean he did it deliberately.
[This isn't working, is it? Frankly, it's shit. Let's drop it now]
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No no, bravo!
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http://gu.com/p/35jj7 (http://gu.com/p/35jj7)
Love to see democracy in action...
May as well post this in this thread too then...
Andrew Lansley Rap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl1jPqqTdNo#ws)
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http://gu.com/p/35jj7 (http://gu.com/p/35jj7)
Love to see democracy in action...
May as well post this in this thread too then...
Andrew Lansley Rap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl1jPqqTdNo#ws)
That was funny.
In a sad kind of way.
Lansley is not top of my list for man of the year.
Arse of the decade maybe (and not in a nice way). ;)
I may possibly have over indulged on the red grape juice.
Might be best to ignore any posting from me till tomorrow.
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Nice one slackers, quite amusing that.
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Lord James of Blackheath - UK Parlament, House of Lords, Thursday 16 February 2012, Lords Chamber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMccY_xXfCg#ws)
15-trillion-dollars... :-\
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slack---line will love this one........
49% of British homes get less than the national average broadband speed:
http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/bbc-49-of-british-homes-get-less-than-the-nat (http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/bbc-49-of-british-homes-get-less-than-the-nat)
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Already commented on it.
The tardiness in the BBC article is not stating which average they are referring to. I'd be extremely surprised if there weren't 50% with speeds less than the median!
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I'd be extremely surprised if there weren't 50% with speeds less than the median!
Like trying to raise education standards because the education minister has just been told 50% of the population have an IQ below 100....
;) :D :D :D
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If it means free prescriptions and an end to any possibility of Tory rule, I'm all for moving [back] there!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/doncaster--is-part-of-scotland--after-900-year-old-administrative-error-comes-to-light.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/doncaster--is-part-of-scotland--after-900-year-old-administrative-error-comes-to-light.html)
[Even if the directly elected mayor is, er, "a follower of a political manifesto I reject, and a political doctrine with which I disagree"]
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Another one bites the dust.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/02/scheme-greggs-grayling (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/02/scheme-greggs-grayling)
And BBC news have just announced Gregg's are stopping the employment of the Slave Labour Scheme.
Gpvernment flagship programme going down with the captain. Fuck you, Chris Grayling.
Next up, greedy Andrew Lansley.
Edit - Burger King. Not Gregg's; Gregg's are "reviewing the situation", apparently.
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Notwithstanding Andrew Witty - Chief Executive of Glaxo Smithkline - may have his own agenda in getting drugs to market more quickly (which he does admit.)
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-drugs-delayed-to-cut-costs-says-gsk-boss-7440745.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-drugs-delayed-to-cut-costs-says-gsk-boss-7440745.html)
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Whisper it quiet - "Hurrah for a Government Minister"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17162442 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17162442)
No. Actually. Let's shout this one from the rooftops.
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Whisper it quiet - "Hurrah for a Government Minister"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17162442 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17162442)
No. Actually. Let's shout this one from the rooftops.
Amen...
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Eeee. They're larrikins and make no mistake, eh, begorrah!
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Paddy-Power-Cheltenham-Festival-Chav-Tranquilizer/story-15333650-detail/story.html (http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Paddy-Power-Cheltenham-Festival-Chav-Tranquilizer/story-15333650-detail/story.html)
Because apparently that ad is "hilarious"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107650/Paddy-Powers-Chav-Tranquilizer-YouTube-advert-shows-Cheltenham-Festival-louts-shot.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107650/Paddy-Powers-Chav-Tranquilizer-YouTube-advert-shows-Cheltenham-Festival-louts-shot.html)
This from the same good people who brought you
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107650/Paddy-Powers-Chav-Tranquilizer-YouTube-advert-shows-Cheltenham-Festival-louts-shot.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107650/Paddy-Powers-Chav-Tranquilizer-YouTube-advert-shows-Cheltenham-Festival-louts-shot.html)
- An advert where cats get kicked into trees.
- A book on whether Barrack Obama would "survive his first year in office"
- And a "fun" bet on what would be the outcome of Caster Semenya's sex test.
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Goverment to try passing legislation to snoop on all electronic communications.....again (http://www.openrightsgroup.org/)
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Goverment to try passing legislation to snoop on all electronic communications.....again (http://www.openrightsgroup.org/)
Maybe they should just join forces with Google ;)
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One is voluntary (not everyone has gmail accounts or uses Google, e.g. my parents*) the other isn't.
* No doubt other search engines track activity etc. too though.
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One is voluntary (not everyone has gmail accounts or uses Google, e.g. my parents*) the other isn't.
So is having a phone.... :p
(sorry, pedantic mode today..)
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Yep it is, but because you choose to have one doesn't mean that the government are entitled to eavesdrop on your private conversations...
Article 8 – Right to respect for private and family life
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.
2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
I don't believe our national security would be improved if we're snooped on, simply because anyone who wishes to hide what they are doing will use encryption which is very hard to break these days. Thus its a completely futile and expensive exercise in Big Brother. Laws already exist that permit access to monitoring suspected criminals, use them instead of legislating & making new laws.
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Actually, many years ago, I had a conversation with a retired US army Colonel. He'd worked for many years in the NSA. One of his favourite points on the whole eavesdropping thing was this (US orientated):
It's a bluff.
There are 300 million people in the US, making god knows how many phone calls and sending so many emails and messages it would be hard to quantify.
It would have to be directed at individuals, blanket monitoring would be impossible.
ERGO, there is no credible need for this kind of legislation!
It can only be an excuse for abuse and circumvention of legal protections; to allow monitoring of individuals without (legally) due cause.
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< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17242956 >
This has to be wrong. Is it a joke?
Imagine "I'm sorry, there's no profit in rape investigation. If you'd like to report a burglary instead, we can investigate for a 20% cut of any recovered property or insurance payout" or "please call back during business hours..."
Or
"I'm sorry, we don't investigate financial crime anymore... We might upset someone important."
Just because the Met has been privatised for years (run by News International), do we all have to suffer?
Some things should be the states responsibility.
Sorry, but Cameron is an arse.
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< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17242956 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17242956) >
This has to be wrong. Is it a joke?
Imagine "I'm sorry, there's no profit in rape investigation. If you'd like to report a burglary instead, we can investigate for a 20% cut of any recovered property or insurance payout" or "please call back during business hours..."
Or
"I'm sorry, we don't investigate financial crime anymore... We might upset someone important."
Just because the Met has been privatised for years (run by News International), do we all have to suffer?
Some things should be the states responsibility.
Sorry, but Cameron is an arse.
Clearly some people once thought so.
A Bit of Fry and Laurie - Privatization of the Police Force (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6CkltzGAxY#)
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"David Cameron an ill-educated idiot non-shock"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4164070/PM-raps-Trotsky-job-row.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4164070/PM-raps-Trotsky-job-row.html)
David Cameron told MPs: "It is time that businesses in Britain stand up against the Trotskyites of the Right to Work campaign."
Yet if we examine old Leon's own words:
http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/trotsky-on-workfare/ (http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/trotsky-on-workfare/)
The very principle of compulsory labor service is for the Communist quite unquestionable. “He who works not, neither shall he eat.” And as all must eat, all are obliged to work. Compulsory labor service is sketched in our Constitution and in our Labor Code
Didn't Dave study politics or some such?
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http://gawker.com/5890752/jon-stewart-smacks-down-rush-limbaugh-over-his-sandra-fluke-comments
Ha Ha Ha ;) :) :D
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Or even...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17267526
:D :D :P
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Andrew Lansley - TRUTH! vs Fiction
The Thick of It - Your Own Mother's Piss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9q7axqCA0#ws)
TRUTH!
http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2012/03/wow-leaked-video-footage-of-lansley.html (http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2012/03/wow-leaked-video-footage-of-lansley.html)
Fiction!
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I love the way the doctor just keeps on barracking him down the corridor....
#lansley #fail
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Why the spoof docu when you can have the real thing....
Andrew Lansley confronted in the corridors of the Royal Free Hospital (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZCdJSHTf3I#ws)
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Private security guards, PCSO's, uniformed Police, plain clothes?, Security services?
All to stop an angry Doctor and an elderly lady from intruding on his Ivory "Rand" tower...
Arse.
Oh, how irritating the feckless, lazy, working class* are.
*Lazy, WORKING class??
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Why the spoof docu when you can have the real thing....
Ahem. That was the point of the post slackers. That video is in the second link.....
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Ahem. That was the point of the post slackers. That video is in the second link.....
:-\ Then why not embed it here?
Would have taken a few more seconds to get the URL we're well into "Web 2.0" these days? :shrug:
Geez anyone would think I've got time to go looking at random links on the internet!
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Never mind that... check out the new landlord of the cheese.
This is one of the more disturbing pictures I';ve seen in a while... is this a real picture or has he been photoshopped..?
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/want-glory-days-Hull-Cheese-boxer-Micky-Brooks/story-15410117-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/want-glory-days-Hull-Cheese-boxer-Micky-Brooks/story-15410117-detail/story.html)
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Ahem. That was the point of the post slackers. That video is in the second link.....
:-\ Then why not embed it here?
Would have taken a few more seconds to get the URL we're well into "Web 2.0" these days? :shrug:
Geez anyone would think I've got time to go looking at random links on the internet!
Because it's on an external blog, and the video is embedded in there, it's not a stand-alone item [or with "magic" links like wot UKB has got for YooTyoob links?]
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Because it's on an external blog, and the video is embedded in there, it's not a stand-alone item [or with "magic" links like wot UKB has got for YooTyoob links?
The blog itself is external, but it has itself embedded video which is hosted on YouTube . If you go to the bottom right of the video, hover over the "YouTube" button and a dialog box appears which says "Watch on YouTube.com" click it and your on the YouTube page from where you can copuy & paste the URL into here.
Sometimes there is a little dialog box which you can bring up from the bottom of the video which has a box with the URL (with '&embed_player' appended) which you can copy & paste in here (although you have to remove the '&embed_player' bit).
I didn't get the joke you intended 'cause I was too lazy to follow the e-trail you'd posted, but its semantics really (as is using the BBcode in general instead of simply pasting a long URL into a message).
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Lazy cunt. :boxing: :P
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My work life balance has been slipping in the wrong direction of late.
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Because it's on an external blog, and the video is embedded in there, it's not a stand-alone item [or with "magic" links like wot UKB has got for YooTyoob links?
The blog itself is external, but it has itself embedded video which is hosted on YouTube . If you go to the bottom right of the video, hover over the "YouTube" button and a dialog box appears which says "Watch on YouTube.com" click it and your on the YouTube page from where you can copuy & paste the URL into here.
Sometimes there is a little dialog box which you can bring up from the bottom of the video which has a box with the URL (with '&embed_player' appended) which you can copy & paste in here (although you have to remove the '&embed_player' bit).
I didn't get the joke you intended 'cause I was too lazy to follow the e-trail you'd posted, but its semantics really (as is using the BBcode in general instead of simply pasting a long URL into a message).
But if you "hover" over the video itself, and "right-click" you don't get a "properties" option on the drop-down, and that's as much effort I'm prepared to make for what's frankly, a throw-away comment about someone who isn't worth the shit from the bottom of my shoe.
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But if you "hover" over the video itself, and "right-click" you don't get a "properties" option on the drop-down, and that's as much effort I'm prepared to make for what's frankly, a throw-away comment about someone who isn't worth the shit from the bottom of my shoe.
All that demonstrates is that you weren't aware of the "Watch this on YouTube" button. Now you are. :clap2:
(and using Opera & Adobe Flash 11.0.1 I get the option to "Copy URL" when I right click on the embedded video on the external site, no idea what browser/flash you're using)
Lazy cunt. :boxing: :P
:agree: (assuming its directed at me)
Lansley is still a human being, albeit a very misguided, ill-intentioned and cuntish one, who needs educating as to the errors of his ways rather than equating to a piece of shit on your shoe.
I wonder if he reads these forums. :-\
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Come on slackers. He knows the error of his ways perfectly well, they all do. They just don't care and will do what they want to because they can.
This isn't a situation where someone needs more information to make an informed decision. They already have the facts they just choose to ignore them because they in no way fit in with their plans.
He doesn't need educating he needs putting up against a wall and shooting along with the rest of his Tory pals.*
Lansley is worse then some shit on ARFK's shoe as although the shit may be an annoyance to ARFK, it isn't about to destroy the NHS.
*Internet Police please note, this is a throwaway comment on a forum and in no way constitutes a threat to anyone.
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Love Jon Stewart; there's some really messed up things going on in America at the moment!
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Come on slackers. He knows the error of his ways perfectly well, they all do. They just don't care and will do what they want to because they can.
This isn't a situation where someone needs more information to make an informed decision. They already have the facts they just choose to ignore them because they in no way fit in with their plans.
He doesn't need educating he needs putting up against a wall and shooting along with the rest of his Tory pals.*
Lansley is worse then some shit on ARFK's shoe as although the shit may be an annoyance to ARFK, it isn't about to destroy the NHS.
*Internet Police please note, this is a throwaway comment on a forum and in no way constitutes a threat to anyone.
Upto the point where you mentioned Tory's I thought you were referring to people's use of forums :slap: :geek:
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But if you "hover" over the video itself, and "right-click" you don't get a "properties" option on the drop-down, and that's as much effort I'm prepared to make for what's frankly, a throw-away comment about someone who isn't worth the shit from the bottom of my shoe.
All that demonstrates is that you weren't aware of the "Watch this on YouTube" button. Now you are. :clap2:
(and using Opera & Adobe Flash 11.0.1 I get the option to "Copy URL" when I right click on the embedded video on the external site, no idea what browser/flash you're using)
Lazy cunt. :boxing: :P
:agree: (assuming its directed at me)
Lansley is still a human being, albeit a very misguided, ill-intentioned and cuntish one, who needs educating as to the errors of his ways rather than equating to a piece of shit on your shoe.
I wonder if he reads these forums. :-\
Whereas I assumed it was directed at me!
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Whereas I assumed it was directed at me!
Everyone's a winner! :hug:
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Whereas I assumed it was directed at me!
Everyone's a winner! :hug:
Then let us both smite him for his comments.
There is never any need to use bad language or resort to swearing.
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This has made me fucking angry.
[And a free tube of Smarties® to the first person who can spot what precisely has "poked the bear" on this occasion]
http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2012/03/city-boy-racks-up-most-expensive-bar-bill-in-the-world/ (http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2012/03/city-boy-racks-up-most-expensive-bar-bill-in-the-world/)
(http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/receipt-350x350.jpg)
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Rose Magnum? Must be from the last UKBMeet.
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The 10% service charge is £420 out?
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Not enough Pussy?
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It's good, but it's not right.
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Nads!
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/Roywalker240708_450x376.jpg)
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edited to death due to incompetency.
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Why are they selling booze in a pet shop? and come to think of it what kind of pet shop sells grey geese - AND sells them by the litre! euch!
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The 10% service charge is £420 out?
:slap: Retracted, service charge isn't out, but its confusing the bill totals everything and then breaks it down into beverage type afterwards.
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The Foie Gras Pets, Duvets and Omelet Emporium?
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1 prostitute = 1 1/2 bottles of coke?
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The fact that Joe Hart was there - I would have hoped he had more sense.
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But enough of this merry banter -
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100141906/if-you-like-banter-you-are-an-idiot/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100141906/if-you-like-banter-you-are-an-idiot/)
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Toss
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Toss
The whirring sound you can hear is Dorothy Parker and Robert Benchley spinning in their graves.
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Fuck off you cunt and stick your receipt up your arse.
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BT and Talk Talk lose file-sharing appeal (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17270817)
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No Otters?
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Come on slackers. He knows the error of his ways perfectly well, they all do. They just don't care care passionately about the pot of gold which is privatisation of public bodies and will do what they want to because they can the reality is so shocking most people don't appear to realise this government is ushering the greatest, most revolutionary and iniquitous change to British society and institutions in our lifetime..
This isn't a situation where someone needs more information to make an informed decision. They already have the facts they just choose to ignore them because they in no way fit in with their plans.
When this bill goes through in a few weeks, a few sticking-plaster-style Liberal amendments notwithstanding, the NHS will be gone. It will just take a little time to see it.
The privatisation of state education is well underway. Police and prisons will be coming on line.
The scale of change leaves me awestruck, frankly. It's incredible. And deeply immoral and iniquitous. We're back to the C19, and if you're poor, your goose will be trussed, cooked and disposed of. This is democracy in reverse gear. Open your eyes.
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Wordage = Waddage.
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Its a bit scary really...
Actually, the one service I think that could do with a real kick up the arse and some major re-structuring (not sure how that figures with privatisation) is the Police.. they still have this ancient pseudo military structure (e.g. rank, salutes, marching etc..) which I'm far from convinced is required in todays world.... I'm sure all of this breeds a too tight a group who would rather protect their own than do the right thing (as we have seen quite a few times recently). I shall see pigs flying first.
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Its a bit scary really...
Actually, the one service I think that could do with a real kick up the arse and some major re-structuring (not sure how that figures with privatisation) is the Police.. they still have this ancient pseudo military structure (e.g. rank, salutes, marching etc..) which I'm far from convinced is required in todays world.... I'm sure all of this breeds a too tight a group who would rather protect their own than do the right thing (as we have seen quite a few times recently). I shall see pigs flying first.
God!
Never say that to a Copper.
Don't form an opinion based on the MET, they've been despised by other coppers for , well, always.
Coppers are Warranted. They have autonomous powers and are legally allowed to tell a superior to sling it and they often do. It's not as you see on TV.
Not all, some are tossers that give the rest a bad name.
I'm not a cop.
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and they get to retire on full pension after 30 years... just saying....
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and they get to retire on full pension after 30 years... just saying....
Ah yeah, sorry, wrote that in a hurry and had to cut it short too.
Came across much more curt and reactive than intended.
Really it's the public misconception of a quasi-military organisation I was trying to rebut...
TV dramas always seem to follow this assumption and I'm aware how much that winds up the average plod. There are far more "rural" coppers than city and they have a pretty hard time of it.
I was brought up amongst them and several old school friends took that route.
As I understand it they are generally retired at 55, because they are basically worn out by then. Very few, get to draw their full pension at 65 (they are on a preserved pension, so they are put out to pasture at 55 but don't get full pension until 65), most are dead by then.
Check out the NARPO site for stats on early death rates amongst ex PC's.
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Day of mourning for UKB
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/shark-found-dead-in-blaze-at-bungalow-1-4317585
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Did someone mention the Met?
This is pretty amazing stuff:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-copper-the-lawrence-killers-father-and-secret-police-files-that-expose-a-corrupt-relationship-7537762.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-copper-the-lawrence-killers-father-and-secret-police-files-that-expose-a-corrupt-relationship-7537762.html)
And.....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-told-to-reopen-inquiry-into-bent-lawrence-detective-7542444.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-told-to-reopen-inquiry-into-bent-lawrence-detective-7542444.html)
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Yep, as I said.
Commonly referred to as Maximum Earning Tossers, by other forces.
Didn't one of the Yorkshire forces have a similar rep in the '80s?
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No no. Yorkshire coppers all clean as a whistle.......
Red Riding 1974: Official Movie Trailer HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQnBJuskguE#ws)
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Vodafone Switzerland run by a book-keeper (and it only takes up 5% of his time) (http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/03/06/vodafone-undercover-investigation-exposes-swiss-branches/) :-\
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An interesting different take on "lobbying":
http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/project-primary-mayhem-leo-linbeck (http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/project-primary-mayhem-leo-linbeck)
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Totally heartbreaking:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/08/japan-tsunami-one-year-parents-children (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/08/japan-tsunami-one-year-parents-children)
:(
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Yes!! (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/yes-loans-licence-revoked-7545439.html)
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'Not economically viable' (http://www.remploy.co.uk/news-and-media/proposed-changes-to-remploy/factories-proposed-for-closure.ashx).
Am I watching Falling Down or the jokers who are supposed to manage our country for the common good?
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'Not economically viable' (http://www.remploy.co.uk/news-and-media/proposed-changes-to-remploy/factories-proposed-for-closure.ashx).
Am I watching Falling Down or the jokers who are supposed to manage our country for the common good?
That is truly Pythonesque!
Just a hint of sarcasm from the board of Remploy, maybe?
"It's all right, you know, we're only firing you so you can find a job..."
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'Not economically viable' (http://www.remploy.co.uk/news-and-media/proposed-changes-to-remploy/factories-proposed-for-closure.ashx).
Am I watching Falling Down or the jokers who are supposed to manage our country for the common good?
Don't think Falling Down (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=335) has anything to do with it. :P
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Far out (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17297714)
I propose a mini trial at this evenings #ukbpissup half take drop a tab of acid, half don't then record alcohol consumption over the next year. :P
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That is truly Pythonesque!
Just a hint of sarcasm from the board of Remploy, maybe?
"It's all right, you know, we're only firing you so you can find a job..."
Hypocrisy without scruple (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/09/remploy-closures-cost-cutting-progressive)
Perhaps IDS should spend some time out of the segregeated bubble he so comfortably and complacently inhabits.
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That is truly Pythonesque!
Just a hint of sarcasm from the board of Remploy, maybe?
"It's all right, you know, we're only firing you so you can find a job..."
Hypocrisy without scruple (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/09/remploy-closures-cost-cutting-progressive)
Perhaps IDS should spend some time out of the segregeated bubble he so comfortably and complacently inhabits.
IDS of course once famously asserted that his constituents couldn't get council houses because "there were too many immigrants".
Nothing to do with selling off the housing stock under Thatcher then?
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Freedom of Information request from Yvette Cooper on police numbers:
The number of police dealing with 999 emergencies has fallen by more than 5,000 since the last general election, according to new figures compiled from responses to freedom of information requests from all 43 forces in England and Wales
Nick Herbert's previous reassuring words gross insult our intelligence:
Last year the police minister, Nick Herbert, said: "We believe that by controlling costs, cutting bureaucracy, making savings in force back and middle offices, and improving productivity, the police service for the public can be maintained and improved even as funding is reduced.
See for yourself (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/10/thousands-999-police-axed-spending-cuts)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/10/us-iraq-emo-killings-idUSBRE8290CY20120310 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/10/us-iraq-emo-killings-idUSBRE8290CY20120310)
(Reuters) - At least 14 youths have been stoned to death in Baghdad in the past three weeks in what appears to be a campaign by Shi'ite militants against youths wearing Western-style "emo" clothes and haircuts, security and hospital sources say.
"We strongly warn you, to all the obscene males and females, if you will not leave this filthy work within four days the punishment of God will descend upon you at the hand of the Mujahideen,"
Un. Fucking. Believable
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Chick lt millionaire Tory MP Louise Mensch and professional dickhead (I think that's the correct title) Luke Bozier have set up a company together as they are both massive experts with regard to social media (*vomits*).
Unfortunately they're actually not at all as they forgot to register @menschbozier before announcing the creation of the company:
http://www.totalpolitics.com/blog/313052/louise-menschs-social-media-speculation.thtml (http://www.totalpolitics.com/blog/313052/louise-menschs-social-media-speculation.thtml)
https://twitter.com/menschbozier (https://twitter.com/menschbozier)
RO & indeed FL. :clap2:
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Tweeting from Mensch House Une by proxy indeed.
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That was hardly worth Menschioning, I don't know why you Boziered...
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"Red meat increase risk of death", apparently.
So it's 110% certain now, is it?
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_DietAndFitness/red-meat-tied-increased-mortality-risk/story?id=15901365 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_DietAndFitness/red-meat-tied-increased-mortality-risk/story?id=15901365)
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Thats been known for some time.
But you also have to account for other risk factors, for example red meat eaters are also more likely to smoke & drink, and exercise less than non meat eaters, all of which contribute to wards increased risk of mortality.
Living in an area where cattle graze near bracken doubles your risk of colorectal cancer (the spores are carcinogenic), but its okay, instead of a risk of 1 in 100000 its 2 in 100000. So relatively a doubling in risk, but the absolute risk still isn't that high.
So it's 110% certain now, is it?
No.
BBC slides on understanding risk (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7937382.stm) < This explains it simply & in about 20 seconds. The rest are more detailed...
British Medical Association - Risk : Whats your Perspective? (http://www.bma.org.uk/health_promotion_ethics/riskwhatisyourperspective.jsp#.T18OkC0-KV5)
David Speigelhalter has a good blog called Understanding Uncertainty and has proposed an interesting concept called microlives (http://understandinguncertainty.org/microlives). A short video...
MHRA Annual Lecture 2012: Professor David Spiegelhalter's presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFstglExQc4#)
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Except the headline on there, and as put out by the radio this morning is that "red meat increases the risk of death".
I do know what they really mean - which is why I didn't use the link to the BBC item on it as it phrases the thing differently - i.e. correctly.
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Instances like this where statistics are incorrectly represented, dumbed down or not given the correct context do more harm than damage, so why purposefully perpetuate the mis-representation?
It only results in mis-understanding by those who don't know its wrong and prompts me to post explanations, which is often construed as pedantry, but as a statistician I feel some obligation to correct mis-representations and offer some clarification, although its certainly not through any sense of superiority to anyone else on my behalf though as I don't think people are dumb, but that they may not be aware of the intricacies of statistics, just as there are many things I don't know about*.
:shrug:
* I increasingly wonder why I bother though, I should probably just shut up and constrain my posting to videos & pictures.
:sorry: :offtopic:
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What's railing against a sloppy use of English got to do with statistics?
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Because language is how we converse and communicate the statistics to each other. :shrug:
Obviously I'd no idea that you "knew" it was a mis-representation because I can't read minds and haven't met everyone on the forums, nor know their backgrounds and whether or not they know anything about statistics, which is why I linked to some explanations that some people just might have found useful. It wasn't at all clear to me that you were railing against sloppy english.
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Notwithstanding my own first post on this also contained an example of sloppy use of English - not having been proof-read.
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Obviously I'd no idea that you "knew" it was a mis-representation because I can't read minds and haven't met everyone on the forums, nor know their backgrounds and whether or not they know anything about statistics, which is why I linked to some explanations that some people just might have found useful. It wasn't at all clear to me that you were railing against sloppy english.
I too "can't read minds and haven't met everyone on the forums, nor know their backgrounds and whether or not they know anything about statistics". I did however, know immediately what ARFK was on about. I really think this over explanation of everything is more down to your inability to read posts in context (of the thread, of the board, of the poster, etc etc) rather than anyones' misleading posts.
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A lot of context is lost when put into text which is likely the problem I have with interpreting them in the manner in which they are meant.
I should probably just shut up and constrain my posting to videos & pictures.
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I wonder if this news item applies to any members of this forum..... ;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17274186 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17274186)
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Instances like this where statistics are incorrectly represented, dumbed down or not given the correct context do more harm than damage, so why purposefully perpetuate the mis-representation?
It only results in mis-understanding by those who don't know its wrong and prompts me to post explanations, which is often construed as pedantry, but as a statistician I feel some obligation to correct mis-representations and offer some clarification, although its certainly not through any sense of superiority to anyone else on my behalf though as I don't think people are dumb, but that they may not be aware of the intricacies of statistics, just as there are many things I don't know about*.
:shrug:
* I increasingly wonder why I bother though, I should probably just shut up and constrain my posting to videos & pictures.
:sorry: :offtopic:
Frankly, I enjoy said explanations.
Possibly, because I'm a bit of a Geek...
Do carry on, a little context never hurt anything.
Although, it can be a little demeaning to be on the wrong end of one of your "clarifications"...
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Although, it can be a little demeaning to be on the wrong end of one of your "clarifications"...
I used to write explanations myself, now as above I just link to existing materials. I certainly never intend to put anyone down but if thats how its construed (as several have suggested) I won't bother with the linking either.
After all this thread was meant to be about...
...those ridiculous/hilarious/outrageous news stories you come across...
Anyway :offtopic:
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"It's not really surprising because red meat consumption has been linked to an increased risk of chronic diseases, such as cardiovascular disease and cancer," said Dr. Frank Hu, professor of nutrition and epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health
OK for him, isn't it?
If one heart packs in, he can fall back on the other one.
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British "justice" at it's worst:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/13/woman-retracted-rape-claim-husband (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/13/woman-retracted-rape-claim-husband)
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I wonder if this news item applies to any members of this forum..... ;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17274186 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17274186)
Good article!
They play on teams with names like Alfa Geek, Purple Pain and I See Lead People.
:lol:
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Executive Director of Goldman Sachs quits and tells everyone why in no uncertain terms:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.htm (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.htm)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.htm (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.htm)
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/why-i-am-leaving-the-empire%2c-by-darth-vader-201203145007/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/why-i-am-leaving-the-empire%2c-by-darth-vader-201203145007/)
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Greg Smith is resigning today as a Goldman Sachs executive director and head of the firm’s United States equity derivatives business in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
I looked at the entry for equity derivatives on Wikipedia and understood 0% of it, I don't think I want to, as it's only likely to make me more depressed about the world!
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That Mash piss take is fucking brilliant.
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Good item on the culture show the other week (or some similar program) - the Mash is written by a Glaswegian living in a rather nice looking french farm house - which I suspect its from his Mash spoils... really dry (almost boring to interview) guy - but funny...
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Mick Dundee was right to be wary (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-17402519)
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Stupid Bint (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9146616/The-5ft-leap-at-Craggy-Island-that-may-end-in-100000-payout.html)
I hope it really fuckin' hurt. Dickhead.
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On seeing the URL I was hoping for some Father Ted style escapades.
Maybe lagerstarfish could provide some insight into how much broken ankles hurt?
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I broke my ankle falling from the top of the Craggy Island bouldering wall in 2005. It took about 6 months to get better and sometimes still twinges.
It was probably the first or second time I ever went bouldering too.
However, I didn't think of sueing them really, as I acknowledge that jumping down 10 feet or so is always going to involve some risk, especially if you're a bit out of control.
I didn't need to throw for the last jug, and I could have climbed down instead. It's just implicit in the activity that there is risk involved. I'm very surprised she's winning on this one!
Not good for the wall either as if it loses its insurance premiums will rise, which might have to be reflected back onto the customers in costs.
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Rocksteady, did your fall involve helicoptering down?
A mate of mine just did his ankle on Crescent Arete despite falling clean onto the mat. I reckon it was the spinning motion that did for him.
Your foot can catch easier in a pad than on the ground, depending on 1000 imponderables, probably ...
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I fell sort of outwards, but relatively straight, but there were people chatting on the mat and the indentation caused by their feet caused an incline on the mat where I fell. So as I landed I rolled to one side and heard it crunch.
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Heading to Font next month and want to come back walking, so lessons learnt so far are
mat needs to be as flat as possible
come straight down onto it
cheers
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Heading to Font next month and want to come back walking, so lessons learnt so far are
mat needs to be as flat as possible
come straight down onto it
cheers
Better still, don't fall off .......
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Only bad injury I've ever had climbing (touch wood) was from landing on the angled pads at the Brenin. Lethal.
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Pisses me off that.
You don't need an instructor to tell you if your on a wall and you jump off you could do your ankle. Sounds like she got them on a technicality because she wasn't told 'how to jump off'...............
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Hmmm...
Guess I must have misunderstood the word "Judge"...
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“I recently bought an espresso machine to which I was hugely attached until I noticed Whittard was selling the same model to gays.”
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3f1df970-6d70-11e1-b6ff-00144feab49a.html#axzz1pSLJeEBI (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3f1df970-6d70-11e1-b6ff-00144feab49a.html#axzz1pSLJeEBI)
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I always knew this man was a cunt, and here's the proof!
(http://www.asseenonthetv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/airswimmer-shark-jonathan-ross.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/helium-party-balloons-squandered (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/helium-party-balloons-squandered)
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Tenuous!
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Yes.
And?
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Has someone's halo slipped?
“Bob Geldof, an Irish citizen and Third World poverty campaigner, has properties in central London and Kent which are owned by BVI companies. A source close to Geldof said it was "perfectly legitimate" tax planning and denied it was linked to avoiding stamp duty.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/uk-chancellery-to-clamp-down-on-properties-held-in-offshore-companies/story-fnb64oi6-1226303010710 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/uk-chancellery-to-clamp-down-on-properties-held-in-offshore-companies/story-fnb64oi6-1226303010710)
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Word of the day:
"Meteorism"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/18/hitler-a-short-biography-review (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/18/hitler-a-short-biography-review)
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To the Batcave (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17419311)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/18/hitler-a-short-biography-review (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/18/hitler-a-short-biography-review)
He raises the ghost of Sir Horace Wilson, who negotiated with Hitler on Chamberlain's behalf to make the point that the only concern the rest of the world had about the fate of Germany's Jews was that they should not flee to their countries. Sir Horace told the journalist Colin Cross in 1968 – that is, 23 years after the liberation of Auschwitz – that he understood Hitler's feelings about the Jews. "Have you ever met a Jew you liked?" he asked Cross.
Thanks, didn't know that.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17440803
"But you called it the by the wrong name! It didn't sound like forced labour if you used the name I gave it!"
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"I think the Guardian newspaper got things wrong, but the BBC had more of a duty to get things right and I don't think it made an effort to do so. "
Translated:
"I expect those cunts at the Guardian to tell the truth but you bastards at the Beeb are supposed to toe the party line OR ELSE!!!"
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Naughty teacher (http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/italian-kindergarten-roth-model-962/)
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Will the last one to leave the country please turn out the lighrs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/mar/13/insurance-legal-aid-alternative (http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/mar/13/insurance-legal-aid-alternative)
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/116558 (http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/116558)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17452756 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17452756)
And to put the tin lid on it…
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=48981&c=1 (http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=48981&c=1)
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Maxwell Straker - Record Breaker.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17258692 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17258692)
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Gideon: "I don't pay 50% tax anyway so ner."
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/income-tax-osborne-chancellor (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/income-tax-osborne-chancellor)
Well of course.
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Gideon remains "on-message"…
"We're all in this together" (http://ht.ly/9QdDf)
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(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/Robin.jpg)
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(http://www.asseenonthetv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/airswimmer-shark-jonathan-ross.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/helium-party-balloons-squandered (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/helium-party-balloons-squandered)
<Guffaw!>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2012/mar/23/jonathan-ross-gets-hum-engelbert-humperdinck (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2012/mar/23/jonathan-ross-gets-hum-engelbert-humperdinck)
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I always knew this man was a cunt, and here's the proof!
(http://www.asseenonthetv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/airswimmer-shark-jonathan-ross.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/helium-party-balloons-squandered (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/helium-party-balloons-squandered)
Dunno anything bout the man, but my son got one of those shark thingy's and it's pretty funny.
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Dave Dave "Call me 'Dave'" begins to have serious doubts about the 250k dinners as he's introduced to the latest Conservative Party donor -
(https://p.twimg.com/Ao73DY1CEAE0Dpp.jpg)
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Dave Dave "Call me 'Dave'" begins to have serious doubts about the 250k dinners as he's introduced to the latest Conservative Party donor -
(https://p.twimg.com/Ao73DY1CEAE0Dpp.jpg)
Isn't that Pickles?
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Not sweaty enough..
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Not sweaty enough..
Yeah and too well dressed.
My bad.
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'Kinnel!
Explosive stuff in the Grauniad.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/26/news-corp-ondigital-paytv-panorama (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/26/news-corp-ondigital-paytv-panorama)
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Kinnel geyse! A smoking gun and a half... Though I bet the NI lawyers wriggle out of it..
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Amazing stuff. :popcorn:
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It gets better:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/pay-tv-piracy-hits-murdoch-20120328-1vxfw.html (http://www.smh.com.au/business/pay-tv-piracy-hits-murdoch-20120328-1vxfw.html)
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OK, I know it's a relative thing but doesn't the use of language about "raging wildfires" in pieces like this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9170818/Dry-and-hot-weather-spark-perfect-recipe-for-raging-wildfires-across-UK.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9170818/Dry-and-hot-weather-spark-perfect-recipe-for-raging-wildfires-across-UK.html) :
look a little silly when you put pictures like this
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02179/fire_2179196b.jpg)
alongside this little number from 2009 down here.
(http://sueyeap.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/inside-the-firestorm-1.jpg)
I don't want to make light of the fires then or now but I do get pissed off with the OTT language that gets thrown around by both public authorities and the media these days. Makes me think of the knife gag in one of the Crocodile Dundee films.....
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When has the 'press' in any country been proportionate in their use of language?
Sensationalism apparently sells.
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Uterus didelphys (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/285322/20120120/hazel-jones-woman-two-vaginas-pr0n-video.htm)
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Amazing stuff. :popcorn:
I do believe thou hast misunderinterpretated the intention behind that smarticon.
And thou canst therefore consider thyself smit.
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/28/1332925755604/Richard-Norris-before-and-006.jpg)
(http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/pasportsfeeds/article7584190.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Roberto+Di+Matteo)
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/28/1332925755604/Richard-Norris-before-and-006.jpg)
(http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/pasportsfeeds/article7584190.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Roberto+Di+Matteo)
More than a little unkind, under the circumstances I'd aver…
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We're not going to Vegas
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17544301 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17544301)
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Amazing stuff. :popcorn:
I do believe thou hast misunderinterpretated the intention behind that smarticon.
Incorrect! I knew exactly what I meant. :slap: :fishing: :icon_welcome: :smart:
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-newscorp-piracy-idUSBRE82S03W20120329 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-newscorp-piracy-idUSBRE82S03W20120329)
Yeah right Rupert. It's obviously all made up......
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-newscorp-piracy-idUSBRE82S03W20120329 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-newscorp-piracy-idUSBRE82S03W20120329)
Yeah right Rupert. It's obviously all made up......
The australian case may be more solid RE NDS, piracy and the Oz pay channel Sky swallowed up.. listening on the radio yesterday, apparently there are a few thousand emails released by a former NDS employee in Oz that are quite incriminating...
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I saw this, and immediately thought of GrumpyCrumpy
http://treasureislands.org/dubai-one-of-the-filthiest-spots-on-the-planet/ (http://treasureislands.org/dubai-one-of-the-filthiest-spots-on-the-planet/)
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I'm reminded of Rod Liddle's article (yes I know he's a prick but it was a good article) in the Sunday Times which described Dubai in similar glowing terms but I can't link to it any more as presumably it's behind the paywall.
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Lived there for nearly ten years....
It's worse than that.
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Amazing stuff. :popcorn:
I do believe thou hast misunderinterpretated the intention behind that smarticon.
Incorrect! I knew exactly what I meant. :slap: :fishing: :icon_welcome: :smart:
Yes. And you were wrong.
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'Kinnell. - It appears George Galloway is about to win Bradford West from Labour.
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'Kinnell. - It appears George Galloway is about to win Bradford West from Labour.
by quite some margin
he seems rather pleased with himself
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Despicable that he should so openly endorse a dictator, though.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/8857689/Oil-rich-dictator-of-Kazakhstan-recruits-Tony-Blair-to-help-win-Nobel-peace-prize.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/8857689/Oil-rich-dictator-of-Kazakhstan-recruits-Tony-Blair-to-help-win-Nobel-peace-prize.html)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02040/tony_2040736c.jpg)
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Less highbrow...
http://www.genderremixer.com/html5/# (http://www.genderremixer.com/html5/#)
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Eggs boiled in urine (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/us-china-urine-eggs-idUSBRE82S0EE20120329) :sick:
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I see it's started…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/01/cameron-shaun-ryder-advise-tories?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/01/cameron-shaun-ryder-advise-tories?INTCMP=SRCH)
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Racist cunt :no: (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/mar/30/police-officer-recording-black-man)
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Worst thing about that is the original decision of the CPS no to do anything about it.
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That's the problem, not that an individual is racist. Bar observing that he was obviously comfortable behaving that way in front of other colleagues you cannot infer much about the institution. Most police would/will be disgusted by him. But the CPS??!
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And 'gullible' has been removed from the English dictionary (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-17596214) :lol:
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Sky News claim "repsonsible journalism" involves
invasion of privacy[/i] 'hacking' into private emails "in the public interest" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17628600)
Hopefully News Corp are going down the pan. :clap2:
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Judges rule that Tory NHS bill was in violation of 2010 manifesto.
http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/wow-court-rules-that-tory-nhs-bill-was.html (http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/wow-court-rules-that-tory-nhs-bill-was.html)
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Non Sequitur season opens early as a Public Schoolboy "ruins the Boat Race"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rowing/17645929 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rowing/17645929)
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Unable to distinguish between "Good" and Evil"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521)
At a Mass on Saturday, [Pope Benedict XVI] warned that mankind is "groping in the darkness, unable to distinguish good from evil".
I reckon I could give it a go:
Attempting to cheat people out of the right to live their lives with whom they chose - check
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/pope-denounces-gay-marraige_n_1334504.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/pope-denounces-gay-marraige_n_1334504.html)
Atttempting to cheat women out of their right to have control over their own bodies - check
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/28/pope-benedict-delivers-abortion-message-to-pro-life-leaders/ (http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/28/pope-benedict-delivers-abortion-message-to-pro-life-leaders/)
Attempting to cheat justice by personally intervening to prevent the prosection of known paedophiles - check
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection)
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Unable to distinguish between "Good" and Evil"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17649521)
At a Mass on Saturday, [Pope Benedict XVI] warned that mankind is "groping in the darkness, unable to distinguish good from evil".
I reckon I could give it a go:
Attempting to cheat people out of the right to live their lives with whom they chose - check
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/pope-denounces-gay-marraige_n_1334504.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/pope-denounces-gay-marraige_n_1334504.html)
Atttempting to cheat women out of their right to have control over their own bodies - check
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/28/pope-benedict-delivers-abortion-message-to-pro-life-leaders/ (http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/28/pope-benedict-delivers-abortion-message-to-pro-life-leaders/)
Attempting to cheat justice by personally intervening to prevent the prosection of known paedophiles - check
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection)
Unbefuckinglievable.
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Amen and Hallelujah...
Yes I think I can tell good from evil.
Well... Right from wrong, anyway...
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Amen and Hallelujah...
Yes I think I can tell good from evil.
Well... Right from wrong, anyway...
How would you classify this then? Right. Wrong. Good. Or Evil?
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/oct/09/aids?cat=world&type=article (http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/oct/09/aids?cat=world&type=article)
The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not to use condoms because they have tiny holes in them through which HIV can pass - potentially exposing thousands of people to risk.
The church is making the claims across four continents despite a widespread scientific consensus that condoms are impermeable to HIV.
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Wrong.
Simples.
Where do they come from, these idiots?
How can they look in a mirror?
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Work Harder, You Fucking Proles [1]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17655683 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17655683)
“The idea is to replace final-salary pensions, which have become too expensive for many private firms.”
Work Harder, You Fucking Proles [2]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17654781 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17654781)
“The Centre for Economics and Business Research calls for all bank holidays to be scrapped”
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Work Harder, You Fucking Proles [1]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17655683 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17655683)
“The idea is to replace final-salary pensions, which have become too expensive for many private firms.”
Work Harder, You Fucking Proles [2]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17654781 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17654781)
“The Centre for Economics and Business Research calls for all bank holidays to be scrapped”
Re the bank holiday thing. What a load of bollocks.
A fortnight ago the Governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, warned that GDP in the second quarter of this year might shrink owing to the number of bank holidays.
Which would prove what Mervyn? That people had a couple more days off. Not that fewer jobs were being created or businesses were failing etc etc. Jesus.. fucking.. christ.
As I get neither company pension nor paid holidays neither of these things affects me however I can still tell right from wrong. Bunch of cunts.
That public holiday comparison thing is also a load of shit & obviously meaningless as Americans get far fewer holidays than we do. Suppose that's the difference between "public" and "statutory minimum" or something?
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Speaking as a company Director... (read "self employed" ).
I am truly alarmed at the de-humanising, right wing, elitist crap; the current Government and cronies keep coming up with.
Peasants! Know your place!
And I'm supposed to agree with them, as a proponent of a free market.
I don't.
I see no reason a free market should require the subjugation of people, or lead to privilege (as in "private law") and elite status for the few.
Bring back Democracy!
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Speaking as a company Director... (read "self employed" ).
I am truly alarmed at the de-humanising, right wing, elitist crap; the current Government and cronies keep coming up with.
That's my status too.
It's part of the great con. They wheel out these proposals as having the support of "business leaders" (e.g. the reduction of the 50p rate) when what they actually mean is a few extremely rich people who contribute to their party funding.
When you look past the bullshit the actual policies do nothing for small businesses but help massively profitable large companies and wealthy individuals. We hear loads about how great the reduction in Corporation Tax is supposed to be for business but companies only pay the full rate of CT if they make profits (that's net profit after every trick you can pull to reduce it) of over £1.5m.
The Small companies rate remains at 20% with no reduction likely in the future while things that directly affect small companies such as Employers NI (increased by 1% last year making it more costly to employ people) and the Annual Investment Allowance (cut from £100k to £25k thereby shafting those wanting to invest in machinery etc) are made worse.
Being a proponent of business and the free market now means opposing most Tory policy because that certainly is not what they're supporting. Interestingly this has always been the case (feather the nests of the few while dressing it up as being the party of business/economic sense) but people still fall for it. The great con.
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Speaking as a company Director... (read "self employed" ).
I am truly alarmed at the de-humanising, right wing, elitist crap; the current Government and cronies keep coming up with.
That's my status too.
It's part of the great con. They wheel out these proposals as having the support of "business leaders" (e.g. the reduction of the 50p rate) when what they actually mean is a few extremely rich people who contribute to their party funding.
When you look past the bullshit the actual policies do nothing for small businesses but help massively profitable large companies and wealthy individuals. We hear loads about how great the reduction in Corporation Tax is supposed to be for business but companies only pay the full rate of CT if they make profits (that's net profit after every trick you can pull to reduce it) of over £1.5m.
The Small companies rate remains at 20% with no reduction likely in the future while things that directly affect small companies such as Employers NI (increased by 1% last year making it more costly to employ people) and the Annual Investment Allowance (cut from £100k to £25k thereby shafting those wanting to invest in machinery etc) are made worse.
Being a proponent of business and the free market now means opposing most Tory policy because that certainly is not what they're supporting. Interestingly this has always been the case (feather the nests of the few while dressing it up as being the party of business/economic sense) but people still fall for it. The great con.
^^^ well said both. Totally agree.
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Pissed up having just watched The Masters at Augusta, suddenly it seems like a good idea to steal something.........
http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2012-04-09/masters-patron-charged-theft-bunker-sand (http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2012-04-09/masters-patron-charged-theft-bunker-sand)
Baker, who was drinking heavily at the time of the incident, was unsuccessful at getting any of the sand in his cup.
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What would they do if "just a few people took it into their heads to disrupt the Olympics"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17666920 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17666920)
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Whisper this one loud!
[Or shout it quiet. Or something]
Hurrah! for Boris Johnson
https://twitter.com/# (https://twitter.com/#)!/guardian/status/190488065133903872
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/christian-anti-gay-ads-buses (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/christian-anti-gay-ads-buses)
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This charity donations capping thing mularkey.
What's Gideon and Dave, Dave "Call me Dave" 's problem with genuine donations ex-tax to charity?
Shouldn't they just be strengthening the Revenue to clamp down on bogus uses of thi…
Ah.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17687124 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17687124)
Terrifying ordeal?
What a wuss.
Kids today, eh? In my day we used to send them out of the trenches to clear minefields. (etc.)
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Filth.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/12/hillsborough-battle-orgreave (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/12/hillsborough-battle-orgreave)
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Stuck up (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-17688011) :lol:
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“sack the money grabbing old witches and make them pay back every penny they earned ”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-17705776 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-17705776)
Politics is a bit closer to the knuckle in Scotland than in England, isn't it?
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This could be bad news for some of us if, say, Sting [or Bonio] get wind of this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1088838 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1088838)
blogger and tweeter – Olly Cromwell – was found guilty on Friday, 13th April, simply for swearing at a Bexley, London, councillor in a Twitter message.
The prosecution alleged he called a senior Bexley councillor a ‘cunt’ and are seeking a custodial sentence of 45 days for each letter of the word.
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What a hypocrite!!!
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17730857 >
Then there's this...
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17730777 >
And...
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-17713833 >
Aka "I'm a rich arsehole, with no brain to speak of, what what!"
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What a hypocrite!!!
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17730857 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17730857) >
Then there's this...
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17730777 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17730777) >
And...
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-17713833 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-17713833) >
Aka "I'm a rich arsehole, with no brain to speak of, what what!"
Ye gods!
Calm down man, you'll give yourself a seizure
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L2012iS*
And L2012iS is intent on imposing their "S" on the rest of us.
Thank FUCK I don't live on the route of this ridiculous bag of complete and utter fucking shite
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17726382 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17726382)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59689000/jpg/_59689214_16e5917e-0b48-4fae-aa29-29d15fc4cbec.jpg)
“Music will be blasted out from the vehicles as they travel along the relay route ahead of the torch”
* LiS = "London is Shit"
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wtf? I mean, wtf?!
http://www.friatider.se/shocking-photos-shows-swedish-minister-of-culture-celebrating-with-niger-cake (http://www.friatider.se/shocking-photos-shows-swedish-minister-of-culture-celebrating-with-niger-cake)
(http://www.friatider.se/wp-content/uploads/cache/picture68577.jpg)What is Swedish for "Simone shoots the smiling Sambo"?
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Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth was invited to open the festivities by performing a clitoridectomy on the cake, which she did by slicing off the part of the cake depicting female genitalia. She then proceeded to feed that part of the cake to a performance artist, done up in blackface, his head protruding through the table.
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Wha? Bu? Um.... There are no words :shrug:
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The publicity event/stunt (being generous with my definition..) was to highlight the wrongs of female circumcision..
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The publicity event/stunt (being generous with my definition..) was to highlight the wrongs of female circumcision..
Lets not let minor details like that get in the way.
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The publicity event/stunt (being generous with my definition..) was to highlight the wrongs of female circumcision..
... which appeared to cause much hilarity!
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The publicity event/stunt (being generous with my definition..) was to highlight the wrongs of female circumcision..
No such thing as "bad publicity", eh?
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Wasn't there also supposed to be some sort of fatuous O*y****_c "launch the motto" event in the same part of That London today as well?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/18/disability-benefits-cuts-protest-trafalgar-square?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/18/disability-benefits-cuts-protest-trafalgar-square?CMP=twt_gu)
[link contains embedded video, I don't know how to post it.]
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Disabled protester at London demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z21i4hda7Do#ws)
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I can't think of anything to say.
Except he's right.
And There was a time, not so long ago; when I wouldn't have thought about it...
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No fucking shit, eh, Sherlock?
Bahrain Grand Prix:
Hulkenberg questions decision to race
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17771864 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17771864)
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Another heartwarming tale from the Met:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/19/metropolitan-police-accused-racism-firefighter (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/19/metropolitan-police-accused-racism-firefighter)
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I loved the quote from the police officer in that report.
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Girl falls down hole:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17827983 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17827983)
In other news, Leveson, wow. Bye bye Jeremy Hunt...... :wave:
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BOOM!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9223678/Jeremy-Hunt-the-secret-News-Corp-emails-and-the-absolutely-illegal-tip-off.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9223678/Jeremy-Hunt-the-secret-News-Corp-emails-and-the-absolutely-illegal-tip-off.html)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/24/jeremy-hunt-murdochs-bskyb-bid (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/24/jeremy-hunt-murdochs-bskyb-bid)
Murdoch senior tomorrow. I bet Cameron is shitting himself.
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This is good by Simon Kelner:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/24/james-murdoch-rebekah-brooks-simon-kelner-independen (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/24/james-murdoch-rebekah-brooks-simon-kelner-independen)
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BOOM!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9223678/Jeremy-Hunt-the-secret-News-Corp-emails-and-the-absolutely-illegal-tip-off.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9223678/Jeremy-Hunt-the-secret-News-Corp-emails-and-the-absolutely-illegal-tip-off.html)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/24/jeremy-hunt-murdochs-bskyb-bid (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/24/jeremy-hunt-murdochs-bskyb-bid)
Murdoch senior tomorrow. I bet Cameron is shitting himself.
How much longer can the gov hang on.
Have we gone more than 3 days without some serious scandal in the last two months?
Even the Torygraph has abandoned them.
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The final straw for me was him planning to mine meteors.
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Crooks, the lot of them. This is getting like Italian politics. Just without the dancing girls.
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Crooks, the lot of them. This is getting like Italian politics. Just without the dancing girls.
And the girls at least made it interesting...
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The final straw for me was him planning to mine meteors.
Could be some interesting field work there Tomtom?
😳😄😄😄😂😨😰😲😱😠😡😡👿
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< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17827347 >
Easier than trying to manage our tangible resources?
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jesus fucking christ. I mean we all knew it was happening, but having it laid out in black and white is pretty amazing. How the fuck has this little toad not resigned?
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The final straw for me was him planning to mine meteors.
Could be some interesting field work there Tomtom?
😳😄😄😄😂😨😰😲😱😠😡😡👿
He looks at them and absorbs all the neutroniuminium (c) into his body that he then pisses out as liquid gold.
Alchemy as well as asteroid violation.
In his spare time James likes clubbing (seals).
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17836846 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17836846)
What an absolute arsehole this man is! I wish he would just fuck off out of scotland (even if his mother is from Lewis) and go back to America Apprentice.
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Has anyone made a joke about Adam Smith's invisible hand yet?
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Is that what keeps the comb over in place? ;-)
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I tried to create a highly convoluted and terrible pun involving "Trump" and "wind power" but it just got too contrived so I sacked it off.
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Hopefully it'll be a breeze to blow away Trumps ideas... they dont seem to have much direction or force.
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Not wanting to be swept away with the Trump story..
How the feck is Hunt managing to hang onto his job... SHIRLEY if he was in charge of the dept where there was the leaking - sorry direct communication of info about relevant future govt anouncements on the issue he has to go.
Anyway, looks like the Grauniad has dug up another smoking gun with a Jaunt in 2009 to have a chat with Newscorp folk in New York...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/25/jeremy-hunt-news-corp-bskyb (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/25/jeremy-hunt-news-corp-bskyb)
Very clever play by the Murdochs on this - shift all the shit onto the Govt...
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Very clever play by the Murdochs on this - shift all the shit onto the Govt...
The government are meant to be above back-handers, so it doesn't really matter who was offering it Murdoch/NewsCorp/Phillip Green/some other fat-cat, they shouldn't have got involved.
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Did we do Nadine Dorries?
Excellent comment on Darlo's board:
http://darlofc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19153&p=238315&hilit=dorries#p238315 (http://darlofc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19153&p=238315&hilit=dorries#p238315)
Nadine Dorries is a religious nutter, who is trying to shape policy to suit her own intolerant brand of christianity. Her opinion is worthless.
Except when she says something I agree with.
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:lol:
Pretty much exactly what I thought when I heard that story!
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I used to detest having to wash my mouth out with soap, seems like its much more 'fun' these days (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17850394). :P
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Good job it's an unmanned mission, is'nt it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11181567 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11181567)
Nasa is aiming to get closer to the Sun than ever before, with plans to plunge a car-sized unmanned spacecraft into the star's outer atmosphere.
Scientists hope to launch the Solar Probe Plus (SPP) sometime before 2018
Because these boys and girls just aren't around to help if it all goes wrong…
Thunderbirds 01x04 Sun Probe part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTX4vryI3yc#)
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Why Biggles gets paid quite a bit... (when they can't use the computer...) some good skills here!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501)
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Why Biggles gets paid quite a bit... (when they can't use the computer...) some good skills here!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501)
Shitting hell. :o
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Why Biggles gets paid quite a bit... (when they can't use the computer...) some good skills here!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501)
Ouch! 😱
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The tank slapper on the first one was well held! #3 was mr (or mrs) smooth..
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Hopefully I haven't missed this being posted elsewhere.
Apparently we have better cycle safety than the Netherlands...
http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/minister-for-road-safety-loses-his-marbles-live-on-parliamentary-tv (http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/minister-for-road-safety-loses-his-marbles-live-on-parliamentary-tv)
I can't tell if it is genuine stupidity, or if they are really just so up themselves that the think no-one will notice. I'm not sure which I'd prefer either, stupid politician, evil politician...
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Yes, well if you hadn't fiddled the books you wouldn't be in this situation now would you? Convict her in absentia :read: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-17866333)
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Hopefully I haven't missed this being posted elsewhere.
Apparently we have better cycle safety than the Netherlands...
http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/minister-for-road-safety-loses-his-marbles-live-on-parliamentary-tv (http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/minister-for-road-safety-loses-his-marbles-live-on-parliamentary-tv)
I can't tell if it is genuine stupidity, or if they are really just so up themselves that the think no-one will notice. I'm not sure which I'd prefer either, stupid politician, evil politician...
all that mariage-yoo-arna must be putting dutch taxi drivers off their aim - they only kill half as many per mile as ours do
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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/897439-firm-hires-7-people-who-dont-turn-up-because-its-wet-and-theyre-tired (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/897439-firm-hires-7-people-who-dont-turn-up-because-its-wet-and-theyre-tired)
The car sales firm has blamed the benefits system for giving too little motivation to take up paid work.
Oh yeah?
How exactly is "the benefits system" to blame for you not paying people a decent living wage, you piss-faced smugulent little four-eyed cunt?
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/26/article-1335478061576-12C6DBDC000005DC-915188_466x310.jpg)
Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/897439-firm-hires-7-people-who-dont-turn-up-because-its-wet-and-theyre-tired#ixzz1tGNX6xqn (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/897439-firm-hires-7-people-who-dont-turn-up-because-its-wet-and-theyre-tired#ixzz1tGNX6xqn)
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20 quid a week for a trial, they want to put him against a wall.
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Why is it, when you read stuff like this you always have a silent "hurrah"?
Is it because the arrogant and allegedly powerful can't impose their capricious whim upon others by closing land access - open access being something that should generally be supported as a matter of principle?
Or is it because of the principals involved it's a question of
(http://dementedmole.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/nelson-muntz_original.jpg)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-17867454 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-17867454)
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Yes, well if you hadn't fiddled the books you wouldn't be in this situation now would you? Convict her in absentia :read: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-17866333)
Yes. Quite right.
Don't bother with all this "before a jury of your peers" bollocks.
Just convict the bitch and then hold the trial.
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Bill Shorten - ralian workplace relations minster
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/apr/27/bill-shorten-loyal-politician-australian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/apr/27/bill-shorten-loyal-politician-australian)
[In case you wanted to know what it was Julia Gillard did say, it was, "I am a hyocrite"
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/gillards-hipocrisy-on-the-presumption-of-innocence/ (http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/gillards-hipocrisy-on-the-presumption-of-innocence/)
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< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17878806 >
Never thought I'd agree with a Clergyman...
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17883101 >
The irony...
It almost hurts.
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The Roman Catholic Church:
A moribund repressive organisation determined to impose their own obnoxious views detached from modern society, ethical probity, and common decency.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17883093 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17883093)
Except when they do something I agree with:
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17878806 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17878806) >
Never thought I'd agree with a Clergyman...
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17883101 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17883101) >
The irony...
It almost hurts.
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In a rare change from usual, some good news....
Publicly funded research is to be available to the public for free (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/01/open-free-access-academic-research) :2thumbsup:
And a big :icon_321: to the publishers who have for years profited off of restricted access to such work.
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Bond having chopper issues again: :worms: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18020646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18020646)
Hope all 14 get back safe!
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Apparently they are all OK. still 3 down in 3 years isn't exactly a good track record for Bond.
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Three in three years, but how many in the preceding?
Are they all the same model/age, when did each have their last service?
Things happen in threes its a well known statistic :clown:
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Sure isn't!
Apparently it was due to go to Andy's Monica's platform next...
Glad we barely use them!
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Looks like Richard Littlejohn's next opinion piece could be fucked:
Derby House Fire:
Their father, who was downstairs in the house in Victory Road, Allenton, made "valiant attempts" to save them.
A sixth child, aged 13, is in hospital receiving specialist treatment. The father, believed to have 17 children, was named locally as Mick Philpott.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18031768 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18031768)
http://www.derbygripe.co.uk/scroung2.htm (http://www.derbygripe.co.uk/scroung2.htm)
(Which of course in no way diminishes from this tragedy.)
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Most famous man in the World agrees to [rare] four-part interview.
With an accountant.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/sci-tech/cpa-australias-giant-leap-neil-armstrong-agrees-to-interview-with-accountant/story-fn5iztw3-1226343845785 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/sci-tech/cpa-australias-giant-leap-neil-armstrong-agrees-to-interview-with-accountant/story-fn5iztw3-1226343845785)
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Told you smoking was dangerous…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18045612 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18045612)
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Did we do Nadine Dorries?
Excellent comment on Darlo's board:
http://darlofc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19153&p=238315&hilit=dorries#p238315 (http://darlofc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19153&p=238315&hilit=dorries#p238315)
Nadine Dorries is a religious nutter, who is trying to shape policy to suit her own intolerant brand of christianity. Her opinion is worthless.
Except when she says something I agree with.
Like "Damp Squid", for example
<guffaw>
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I despair... we already some of the highest diabetes & obesity rates in the country...
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Krispy-Kreme-opening-queues-doughnut-lovers-wait/story-16087720-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Krispy-Kreme-opening-queues-doughnut-lovers-wait/story-16087720-detail/story.html)
Interestingly (bringing vaguely into UKB territory too...)
Benjamin Esterson, 33, had driven all the way up from north London and queued since 2am to make sure he was the first one through the door at 10am. The rock-climbing instructor was given a gold card for his efforts. The card entitles him to a double dozen doughnuts a month for a year.
Benjamin, who tries to attend the opening of as many Krispy Kreme outlets as he can, said: "It is an unbelievably good product and it is so different in texture and flavour to the other doughnuts in the UK."
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what a gimp
only a hull rag would celebrate the opening of a fucking donut shop
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Its ok, says he traveled from London. :clown:
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Death by sex (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/01/munich_incident/)
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what a gimp
only a hull rag would celebrate the opening of a fucking donut shop
Is it news because it's the first new shop to open in the area in the last 3 years?
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what a gimp
only a hull rag would celebrate the opening of a fucking donut shop
Is it news because it's the first new shop to open in the area in the last 3 years?
No.
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They are fucking brilliant donuts though. I'd be made up if I lived in Hull and one was opening there. Well not made up, pleased.
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Is it too soon to blame the Krispy Kreme shop for this incident in Hull?
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Woman-punched-face-fat-cow-insult/story-16105941-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Woman-punched-face-fat-cow-insult/story-16105941-detail/story.html)
Some fucking dynamite on that site btw:
(http://s18.postimage.org/3o31nytzd/Hull_man.jpg)
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/s-going-blow-plane-999-bomb-hoax-man-dumped/story-16106013-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/s-going-blow-plane-999-bomb-hoax-man-dumped/story-16106013-detail/story.html)
So much wrong with that story I don't know where to start but the Man U shirt and jacket are a lovely touch!
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This is a serious case, although I would say it is at the lower end of the scale
I think he's trying to say, "It's not funny, but it does make us laugh".
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Bingham, 38, of Bransholme, drunk four litres of cider before calling the force.
No shit.
He said he spoke to the woman, named as Laurie Hunt, every day over the online call system Skype.
Presumably "Laurie Hunt" whose webcam didn't work is actually an 18st trucker and this....
Bingham told police he received a text message at 7pm on May 2 which read: "Leave Laurie alone, I am friend from the UK and she is not interested."
... was from Darren Simonds (unemployed, Man United fan) in Preston who will also soon be appearing in court after he falls for the same trick.
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Is it too soon to blame the Krispy Kreme shop for this incident in Hull?
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Woman-punched-face-fat-cow-insult/story-16105941-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Woman-punched-face-fat-cow-insult/story-16105941-detail/story.html)
Hardly seems fair. She is a fat cow after all.
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Anyone here still supporting capital punishment?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/15/carlos-deluna-reddit-highlights?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/15/carlos-deluna-reddit-highlights?newsfeed=true)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hBXBDYi3LhI0RyyfKoBYXYVd1FUw?docId=B4003441337219330A00 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hBXBDYi3LhI0RyyfKoBYXYVd1FUw?docId=B4003441337219330A00)
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His name is Gove.
And he likes to kick disabled children, any children really, but especially disabled children.
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-18109394 >
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WTF?
http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/video/19824 (http://)
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As if the illegal* retention of DNA profiles isn't bad enough.... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18102793)
* Four years down the line and they're still working to comply with Strasbourg's ruling (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/01/watering-down-european-court-of-human-rights-powers)
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Todays weirdest headline....
Nasa to launch rubber chicken in Rugby woman's knitted suit (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-18102288)
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wibblewibble.
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Great news for a UKB favourite:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bono-is-a-billionaire-thanks-to-facebooks-record-breaking-stock-market-debut-3111508.html (http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bono-is-a-billionaire-thanks-to-facebooks-record-breaking-stock-market-debut-3111508.html)
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So happy for him. I'm sure he'll be giving it all away to charity. Well, enough of it so that he doesn't have to pay any tax anyway.
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Watch Bono's fortune shrink!:
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:FB (http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:FB)
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What. the FUCK??!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/9279369/Wonga-and-Citizens-Advice-launch-inquiry-into-loans.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/9279369/Wonga-and-Citizens-Advice-launch-inquiry-into-loans.html)
Wonga has teamed up with Medway Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB) to launch a personal finance research project. The project aims to encourage a better understanding of personal finance for the 250,00 people of the Medway area, with a focus on personal loan and credit card debt.
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Cracks in the coalition?
One can only hope so.
Cmon, Vince. Lay down the law to the out-of-touch posh boy.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/cable-condemns-labour-rights-reform-16161509.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/cable-condemns-labour-rights-reform-16161509.html)
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What. the FUCK??!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/9279369/Wonga-and-Citizens-Advice-launch-inquiry-into-loans.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/9279369/Wonga-and-Citizens-Advice-launch-inquiry-into-loans.html)
Aside from the obvious WTFness of that article......
According to the release announcing the initiative launch, the average unsecured personal debt level of a Medway inhabitant is £43,000
This surely can't be right!
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On the wireless, the Medway CAB man quoted a client having 6 - 0, sixty, credit cards. Medway is a far cry from Shipley Glen.
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As ARFK knows, I've been to Gillingham...... but still, the AVERAGE unsecured debt? I don't believe that figure can be right.
Say you had £43k on credit cards you normally have to pay something like 5% of the balance a month. That would be £2150 a month in credit card repayments. The average household income there is about £32k (presuming it's not changed a great deal since 2009 (http://www.medway.gov.uk/pdf/household_income_july_2010.pdf)). The debt would be completely unserviceable, and that's supposed to be the average.
One bloke with sixty credit cards is completely believable but an entire region having that average level of debt (unsecured, not mortgage) doesn't add up to me.
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And yer coffee's rubbish, too!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-18141421 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-18141421)
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As ARFK knows, I've been to Gillingham…
And a good day out had by all!
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This looks like some good news for Sheffield:
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/business/local-business/more-homes-shops-and-arts-space-to-boost-regeneration-1-4579625 (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/business/local-business/more-homes-shops-and-arts-space-to-boost-regeneration-1-4579625)
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Kids think Joe Simpson is shit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH)
Would rather have studied TTV than Hamlet though.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/audioslideshow/2012/may/24/stanza-stones-trail-simon-armitage-yorkshire (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/audioslideshow/2012/may/24/stanza-stones-trail-simon-armitage-yorkshire)
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Kids think Joe Simpson is shit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH)
Would rather have studied TTV than Hamlet though.
The grumpy bastard comes across rather well in that! "Crevasse Wanker" should be a problem name.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/audioslideshow/2012/may/24/stanza-stones-trail-simon-armitage-yorkshire (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/audioslideshow/2012/may/24/stanza-stones-trail-simon-armitage-yorkshire)
"Poetry Cockhead" could be one too.
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Kids think Joe Simpson is shit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH)
Would rather have studied TTV than Hamlet though.
The grumpy bastard comes across rather well in that! "Crevasse Wanker" should be a problem name.
For an uber low level traverse with ZERO danger potential, approx 4m from a pub and where you park the car.
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Kids think Joe Simpson is shit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/24/mountaineer-joe-simpson-twitter-row?INTCMP=SRCH)
Would rather have studied TTV than Hamlet though.
Print version is better - sunhead is
'Goodnight…
and may you
all seethe in
bilious acid pus'
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NOT NEWS!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jamespearce/2012/05/risk_that_olympics_will_not_se.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jamespearce/2012/05/risk_that_olympics_will_not_se.html)
So.
Recession on.
Non-headline sports as far as the UK is concerned, and largely preliminary and earlier rounds.
Meanwhile -
Pope Shits in Woods
Bears Catholic!
(etc.)
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The idiots are winning :(
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1022757_cool_cash_card_confusion)
Really, and you say you left school without maths GCSE, so you'd know all about basic fucking maths. :slap: :wall: :rtfm: :read: :furious:
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15M people!
No, not People, Adults!
There's only 68M people in the UK.
Aaarrgghh!
Bet they all read the Daily Mail too...
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The real figure is 1.5 million, the author of the articel counted the number of zeros incorrectly.
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The real figure is 1.5 million, the author of the articel counted the number of zeros incorrectly.
Oh! The Irony!
It hurts...
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Bonington takes train to top of hill with a big lighter:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18235115 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18235115)
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Did he take a medal with him though? No.
In your face Bonnington!!
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The world has gone completely fucking nuts!
Robert Mugabe appointed UN International Tourism Ambassador (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/28/the-uns-new-international-tourism-ambassador-robert-mugabe/) :doubt:
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That some kind of Canadian 'Onion', right?
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Does appear to be true, however more like he's been invited to support tourism along with many other leaders
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/29/robert-mugabe-un-international-envoy-tourism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/29/robert-mugabe-un-international-envoy-tourism)
Still mad, but looks like it's getting the usual spin by the media
http://media.unwto.org/en/press-release/2011-05-06/president-zuma-south-africa-joins-unwto-wttc-global-campaign-value-travel-a (http://media.unwto.org/en/press-release/2011-05-06/president-zuma-south-africa-joins-unwto-wttc-global-campaign-value-travel-a)
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The idiots are winning :(
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1022757_cool_cash_card_confusion)
Really, and you say you left school without maths GCSE, so you'd know all about basic fucking maths. :slap: :wall: :rtfm: :read: :furious:
I've just noticed that story is dated November 2007…
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I've just noticed that story is dated November 2007…
I bet they're still idiots five years later and would struggle to understand the decimal system.
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I've only just noticed that story is dated November 2007…
I bet they're still idiots five years later and would struggle to understand the decimal system.
Edited and corrected!
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Does appear to be true, however more like he's been invited to support tourism along with many other leaders
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/29/robert-mugabe-un-international-envoy-tourism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/29/robert-mugabe-un-international-envoy-tourism)
Still mad, but looks like it's getting the usual spin by the media
http://media.unwto.org/en/press-release/2011-05-06/president-zuma-south-africa-joins-unwto-wttc-global-campaign-value-travel-a (http://media.unwto.org/en/press-release/2011-05-06/president-zuma-south-africa-joins-unwto-wttc-global-campaign-value-travel-a)
As if the man couldn't pour more shame upon himself.
It appears he admits being a Chelsea fan.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/robert-mugabe-is-a-chelsea-fan-850379 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/robert-mugabe-is-a-chelsea-fan-850379)
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Oh God, here we go again!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/30/cut-alcohol-intake-quarter-pint-daily?CMP=twt_fd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/30/cut-alcohol-intake-quarter-pint-daily?CMP=twt_fd)
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Oh God, here we go again!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/30/cut-alcohol-intake-quarter-pint-daily?CMP=twt_fd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/30/cut-alcohol-intake-quarter-pint-daily?CMP=twt_fd)
An alternative interpretation (http://understandinguncertainty.org/drinking-again).
Reducing this would lead to roughly 11 extra weeks of life or about five minutes extra for a median reduction of one unit per day.
I'll stick with :beer2: thank you as the benefits outweigh those 11 weeks (which are at the end of your life and generally crap anyway).
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Creationist School appears out of nowhere (http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/06/01/creationist-school-appears-out-of-nowhere/) :lol:
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http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/9735781.Councillor_defends_two_tier_NHS_proposal/ (http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/9735781.Councillor_defends_two_tier_NHS_proposal/)
“This factor would attract more ‘other’ patients to come to live in Surrey – and that would push up house prices here.”
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I'll stick with :beer2: thank you as the benefits outweigh those 11 weeks (which are at the end of your life and generally crap anyway).
What if this were ~ constant and you gained 11 good weeks before the decline ...?
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“The views expressed by Coun Butcher challenge the very credibility of Surrey County Council’s (SCC) HOSC.
“It is highly disturbing the Conservative administration at SCC has deemed it appropriate to appoint to this committee a councillor who clearly does not support the NHS and who holds such extraordinary views about the responsibilities of the state to its citizens.”
''The fact that the local Conservative Party have failed to fast-track a councillor so obviously in touch with current cabinet philosophy through to a safe seat is a matter of great concern to the Prime Minister. I believe Lansley may be clearing his desk as we speak' he continued.
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The BBC. Dumbing down.
Is one of the World's most famous reporters
"Is one of the World's most famous reporters" what?
And what, exacly are a "droring", "bits" (in an auction), and an "erner"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18311704 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18311704)
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Are there more revelations to come next week as regards Leveson / Murdoch /The Met etc. etc. etc.?
When in doubt, come out with all guns blazing away at the traditonal targets:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/article4353029.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/article4353029.ece)
Soft judges let off ten child pervs
a week
Exclusive
By DAVID WOODING, Associate Political Editor
[Warning. Link is to "Sun" newspaper]
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The BBC. A nest of commie pinko subversives.
Was there no end to their traitorous perfidy?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/the_queens_diamond_jubilee/9309767/BBC-under-fire-over-lamentable-Jubilee-coverage.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/the_queens_diamond_jubilee/9309767/BBC-under-fire-over-lamentable-Jubilee-coverage.html)
Camera angles and sound quality were also said to have been not up to scratch while a mistaken description of the Queen as "HRH" - rather than "Her Majesty" - also drew flak.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/04/jubilee-pageant-unemployed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/04/jubilee-pageant-unemployed)
More cunting.
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Abi Levitt, director of development services at the charity, said: "We have been unable to verify the accuracy of the situation with either the people on work experience or the business concerned.
"We will undertake a review of the situation as matter of urgency. Tomorrow's People believes strongly in the value of work experience in helping people to build the skills, confidence and CV they need to get and keep a job and we have an exemplary record going back nearly 30 years for our work with the long-term unemployed."
Well.
That's me reassured!
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Meanwhile in Singapore, crackdown on street art:
'My grandfather road' vandal arrested (http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120604-350551.html)
The female suspect was arrested at her residence in the eastern part of Singapore on June 3. The officers also found several paint-stained stencils and several pieces of stickers printed with captions. These items were seized for investigation.
Investigation is ongoing. The police are also working with LTA on earlier reports of round stickers found affixed on other pedestrian crossings at various places.
The case is classified as Vandalism under Section 3 of the Vandalism Act, Chapter 341. A person who is convicted for the offence shall be punished with a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding to 3 years and shall be liable to caning subjected to the Criminal Procedure Code 2010.
The police warned that it takes a serious view of such irresponsible actions and offenders will be dealt with severely.
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388589_10150399657165747_1881456736_n.jpg) (http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120604-350551.html)
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Peter Tatchell brings level-headed reasoning to the monarchy debate*:
Among the republicans was gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, who said in a speech that he had ‘nothing against the Queen’ but that he hated the institution of monarchy.
He said: ‘This Queen has not been a disaster. But you only have to look back to the 1930s and King Edward VIII, a man who sympathised with the Nazi regime.’
Mr Tatchell branded the monarchy ‘racist’ because there would never be a black or Asian on the throne while the Windsor family held it, and he accused the Queen of not representing all British people as she had never visited a gay or lesbian organisation.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154039/Diamond-Jubilee-pageant-Anti-monarchists-stage-riverside-protest.html#ixzz1wx9i7vTa (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154039/Diamond-Jubilee-pageant-Anti-monarchists-stage-riverside-protest.html#ixzz1wx9i7vTa)
* Allegedly.
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Racism Fail:
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1563521_im-not-being-seen-by-that-businessmans-shocking-rant-at-muslim-airport-worker (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1563521_im-not-being-seen-by-that-businessmans-shocking-rant-at-muslim-airport-worker)
Anthony Holt, 65, had become wound up after reading an article in the Daily Mail about the ‘victimisation of Christianity’ on a flight into Manchester.
When he landed, the retired consultant refused to go through a desk where Sayima Mohammed was on duty.
He astonished witnesses by pointing at her and saying: “I don’t want to be seen by that. I don’t want to be seen by any Muslim in a position of authority. I want to be seen by someone who’s English. This is England. This is my country. I’m not into all this Islam.”
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Praveen Sethi, defending...
:lol:
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idiots
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/mar/18/nike-foot-black-tan-trainers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/mar/18/nike-foot-black-tan-trainers)
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idiots
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/mar/18/nike-foot-black-tan-trainers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/mar/18/nike-foot-black-tan-trainers)
:agree: but ..
the trainers look awesome
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/16/1331913287203/Nikes-ill-named-Black-and-007.jpg)
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maybe soon to appear heavily discounted on the streets of the UK?
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Brilliant:
'Sexual depravity' of penguins that Antarctic scientist dared not reveal
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/09/sex-depravity-penguins-scott-antarctic
"The pamphlet, declined for publication with the official Scott expedition reports, commented on the frequency of sexual activity, auto-erotic behaviour, and seemingly aberrant behaviour of young unpaired males and females, including necrophilia, sexual coercion, sexual and physical abuse of chicks and homosexual behaviour," states the analysis written by Russell and colleagues William Sladen and David Ainley. "His observations were, however, accurate, valid and, with the benefit of hindsight, deserving of publication."
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Ouch!
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581013_fire-crews-called-to-remove-sex-aid-from-69-year-old-man-after-36-hour-struggle (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581013_fire-crews-called-to-remove-sex-aid-from-69-year-old-man-after-36-hour-struggle)
:'(
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Ouch!
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581013_fire-crews-called-to-remove-sex-aid-from-69-year-old-man-after-36-hour-struggle (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1581013_fire-crews-called-to-remove-sex-aid-from-69-year-old-man-after-36-hour-struggle)
:'(
Needed some man handling ;)
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Only in America?
http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2012-06-12/story/kkk-wants-adopt-and-clean-highway-georgia-mountains (http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2012-06-12/story/kkk-wants-adopt-and-clean-highway-georgia-mountains)
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Good news....
(https://p.twimg.com/AvLgFB-CIAE7Xpy.jpg:large)
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Council stifle 9 year olds blog (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/neverseconds-shut-down/) :wank:
Never Seconds (http://neverseconds.blogspot.co.uk/2012_04_01_archive.html)
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Get your trarsers on. You're nicked!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-18470983 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-18470983)
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*sigh*
Here we go again....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160054/MMR-A-mothers-victory-The-vast-majority-doctors-say-link-triple-jab-autism-Italian-court-case-reignite-controversial-debate.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160054/MMR-A-mothers-victory-The-vast-majority-doctors-say-link-triple-jab-autism-Italian-court-case-reignite-controversial-debate.html)
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Interesting that the judge used the word "provoked"? I've had all my three done with no worries if that helps at all Lucy...
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That shit shouldn't be given column inches, the more who read it, the worse the consequences.
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Thanks, fatneck, we have had both of ours done. Its just that in my line of work I come into contact with a lot of 'natural parenting' types and I find it hard not to whack their heads together! I end up not even trying to bring some common sense into it as I just get shouted down. So sad.
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Only a cunt reads the Dially Mile.
Need any more proof?
https://p.twimg.com/AvvWO2zCIAAtivS.jpg:large
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China news confuses rubber vagina/anus for special mushroom (SUBTITLED) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=789he-8T_-E#)
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Uruguay starts the end of the war on drugs:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nationalisation-uruguays-solution-to-its-drug-problem-7873537.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nationalisation-uruguays-solution-to-its-drug-problem-7873537.html)
:dance1:
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Now that is some good news, shame it'll likely take a couple of decades for anywhere else to cotton on.
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Uruguay starts the end of the war on drugs:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nationalisation-uruguays-solution-to-its-drug-problem-7873537.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nationalisation-uruguays-solution-to-its-drug-problem-7873537.html)
:dance1:
Alternative World Drug Report (http://www.countthecosts.org/alternative-world-drug-report)
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Barclays fined £290m for massive manipulation of LIBOR rates (huge fraud in other words):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/27/barclays-chief-bob-diamond-bonus-fine (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/27/barclays-chief-bob-diamond-bonus-fine)
Here's some details of the evidence the cunts left.....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/shocking-details-barclays-epic-lie-bor-fraud-duuuude%E2%80%A6whats-ur-guys-345-3m-fix%E2%80%A6tell-him-get-it (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/shocking-details-barclays-epic-lie-bor-fraud-duuuude%E2%80%A6whats-ur-guys-345-3m-fix%E2%80%A6tell-him-get-it)
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Life in the U.S. just wouldn't be complete without a new conspiracy theory popping up every now and again. This is a classic!
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/06/georgia-and-united-nations?fsrc=nlw (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/06/georgia-and-united-nations?fsrc=nlw)|newe|6-27-2012|2572394|37953969|
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Indoor bouldering is the new rock n' roll apparently:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/28/indoor-climbing-bouldering-only-centres (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/28/indoor-climbing-bouldering-only-centres)
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Indoor bouldering is the new rock n' roll apparently:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/28/indoor-climbing-bouldering-only-centres (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/28/indoor-climbing-bouldering-only-centres)
I actually find it really Zen
:sick:
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it's a bit like watching formula 1 on TV
:blink:
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Cumbria is a hot bed for crime. This case has it all, karate, chiropody, verrucas......
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/woman-cleared-of-assaulting-boy-s-dad-at-cumbrian-karate-club-1.969811?referrerPath=news (http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/woman-cleared-of-assaulting-boy-s-dad-at-cumbrian-karate-club-1.969811?referrerPath=news)
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It's been a bit wet in places, hasn't it?
Newcastle Railway Station:
http://twitpic.com/a1jahe (http://twitpic.com/a1jahe)
Tyne Bridge:
Lightning Strikes Tyne Bridge. Filmed from Top floor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkua3S0hhQQ#)
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Prof Lean develops nutritionally balanced pizza (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18663969) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Poor show Dacre!
How exactly is this (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167493/China-cannibal-attack-Drunk-bus-driver-leaps-woman-street-chews-face.html#ixzz1zTNwpBnO) going to affect my house price?
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Tories advise top donors how to avoid tax (http://order-order.com/2012/07/02/tories-advised-top-donors-how-to-avoid-tax/) /via Ben P on Twitter.
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Its not just drugs (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=ohhl4rw8mbn4) where SmaxoGlithCline are economic with the truth but Ribena too as two 14yr school girls in New Zealand discovered (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/27/schoolsworldwide.foodanddrink?cat=world&type=article).
Altogether now...
Paracetamoxyfrusebendroneomycin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlmEc8rd_Nw#)
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Are major U-Turns now a government policy? They'll be getting dizzy soon... The forests shall stay! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18690019)
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The Dalai Lama has killed Bagpuss!
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61235000/jpg/_61235036_dalai1570.jpg)
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http://jop.sagepub.com/content/26/7/994 (http://jop.sagepub.com/content/26/7/994)
for those of you who don't have access via work/athens
Given the evidence for a beneficial effect of LSD on alcoholism, it is puzzling why this treatment approach has been largely overlooked
"puzzling"? my arse
this approach is bound to be doomed now that Nutty is on side with it
Curing alcohol dependency requires huge changes in the way you see yourself. That's what LSD does. Overall there is a big effect, show me another treatment with results as good; we've missed a trick here. This is probably as good as anything we've got for treating alcoholism
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Makes you proud to be "British" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jul/10/fighting-right-travel-buses) >:(
(although actually its got fuck all to do with being British, its about being human, having the capacity for compassion and helping people out, which bus drivers appear to lack)
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What the fuck?! Who were the callous members of the public who refused to help him home and stood by whilst he was assaulted?! :no:
Delayed passengers shout: "I don't care about your fucking rights."
I didn't know David Cameron took the bus to work.
:lol:
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Policemen have no sense of smell (http://sticktwiddlers.com/2012/07/17/police-sell-psp-stuffed-with-cannabis/) :lol:
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Gosh what a surprise, claims of benefits to performance often unfounded and minuscule when they do exist (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18863293)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-18893129
Ha!
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Don't knock the fucker; he did far better than I could manage!
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Slightly more important news than the usual trivia:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-18901925 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-18901925)
The jury heard Det Ch Insp Anthony Tagg had been found to have "invented" evidence given under oath during a hearing held in their absence.
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(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/OurManFlint1927/549088_397348883648163_1771693037_n.jpg)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/OurManFlint1927/557007_397281506988234_1182020296_n.jpg)
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14dead and 50 injured at an premier of the new batman film
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685)
people shot and explosive set off
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14dead and 50 injured at an premier of the new batman film
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685)
people shot and explosive set off
"But its my constitutional right to bear arms" fucking dick head NRA idiots...
Bill Hicks ★ on Handguns ★ Crime in America - Rodney King Trial (Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xc1Rt93bN0#ws)
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14dead and 50 injured at an premier of the new batman film
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685)
people shot and explosive set off
"But its my constitutional right to bear arms" fucking dick head NRA idiots...
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPtWoIGU5_2QP00IlkQEqvkYb3oImHDNkiZOMP6S8e6frZ_d-oMcMAM5st)
Apparently this is only a few miles from colombine high school. I wonder if anyone tooks the no hope thoughts brought up by bowling for colombine seriously. Or is this maralyn mansons fault again?
you nevere know if could just be another mental septic with a gun
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I guess its a start (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18961228), but what about all the other accusations of hacking? :shrug:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/25/shock-gdp-fall-deepens-double-dip-recession (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/25/shock-gdp-fall-deepens-double-dip-recession)
I see the 'austerity' policy is working well over there then...... maybe I should have posted this in the "Cameron is a...." thread?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/25/shock-gdp-fall-deepens-double-dip-recession (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/25/shock-gdp-fall-deepens-double-dip-recession)
I see the 'austerity' policy is working well over there then...... maybe I should have posted this in the "Cameron is a...." thread?
Quarter 2 is currently a preliminary estimate (http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/gva/gross-domestic-product--preliminary-estimate/statistical-special-events-in-quarter-two-2012/art---statistical-special-events-in-quarter-two-2012.html) though.
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well, the bad weather has had some positive impacts....
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Crime-quarter-Hull-thanks-rain/story-16589123-detail/story.html (http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Crime-quarter-Hull-thanks-rain/story-16589123-detail/story.html)
The DD recession is bad news though. Can I have a job in Australia please.
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The comments are a fine example of Britain's unrivalled cynicism and are well worth a read.
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Its all going of at Owlerton Stadium (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-18994657) :o
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YES YES FUCKING YES!!
www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jul/27/twitter-joke-trial-high-court (http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jul/27/twitter-joke-trial-high-court)
At last some common sense.
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Woman hit by the "end" of Jeremy Hunt's "bell":
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/jeremy-hunt-gets-olympic-bell-ringing-spirit (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/jeremy-hunt-gets-olympic-bell-ringing-spirit)
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That's almost perfect.
Tomorrow's headline: Twitter Collapses Under Weight Of "Bell End" Gags.
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That's almost perfect.
Tomorrow's headline: Twitter Collapses Under Weight Of "Bell End" Gags.
"Health and Safety"
What a fucking arsehole!
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http://news.sky.com/story/967158/sheryl-crow-threats-stalker-kept-at-bay (http://news.sky.com/story/967158/sheryl-crow-threats-stalker-kept-at-bay)
The order requires Sparks to stay 100 yards (90m) away from Crow
part ex-ing the shotgun for a rifle, then.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182521/New-Zealand-schoolchildren-encouraged-dress-dead-possums-competition.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182521/New-Zealand-schoolchildren-encouraged-dress-dead-possums-competition.html)
Happens all the time.
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Is there an equivalent thread for "not really amusing at all" news stories affecting the news media?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Wp1YHDlw6wM/UCQxpO4U8ZI/AAAAAAAAni0/VKfD1BXG21U/s1600/Bob%2BJones.jpg)
[Source, Western Mail]
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Private Eye on the Twitter Joke Trial:
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Or rather, Private Eye on the Twitter Joke Trial
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=news&issue=1320 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=news&issue=1320)
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Amazing. How is that man still in a job?
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I had no idea where to put this so as it came from a newspaper site I thought I'd put it here. Just thought more people than would see it in the Melbourne Age should see it.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/without-hiding-from-horror-we-can-reach-towards-light-20120810-23zwt.html?rand=1344605508857 (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/without-hiding-from-horror-we-can-reach-towards-light-20120810-23zwt.html?rand=1344605508857)
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Da-da-da dum.
Click Click
They're creepy and they're kook…
Sorry? What's that?
Addams Family?
Oh. OK
The other one then:
Da da-da da daddi-daddi dah -
(http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/elections/99692d1344892093-separated-birth-romney-ryan-munsters.jpg)
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(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/62270000/jpg/_62270231_adolf_hitler_artwork.jpg)
The Hitler statue raises its arm in salute when a ball goes through it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-19254556 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-19254556)
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http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html)
:jaw:
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:jaw:
Doesn't quite sum it up. Terrifying.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19260859 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19260859)
When staff went to find the 25-year-old, he hid in a cubicle and tried to answer them in a woman's voice.
:lol:
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Wasn't the 100m bottle thrower from Leeds too?
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http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html)
:blink: The possibilities of meltdown would appear not to be exaggerated.
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Briitsh Justice.
It may be slow, moribund, and inflexible.
But it is dogged. it is patient. And it is determined.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/aug/20/asil-nadir-theft-polly-peck-jury?CMP=twt_fd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/aug/20/asil-nadir-theft-polly-peck-jury?CMP=twt_fd)
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Staggeringly offensive and ignorant:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19319240 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19319240)
(This man is on the Science and Technology Committee.)
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Meanwhile, the great and the good of our own elected government isn't afraid to stick in his two penneth on "controversial" subjects:
Galloway on Assange: "It's just bad sexual ettiquette"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19323783 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19323783)
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Oh dear.
How sad.
What a pity.
Never mind.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/22/george-galloway-sacked-holyrood-rape?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/22/george-galloway-sacked-holyrood-rape?newsfeed=true)
[Comment on Twitter yesterday - why do all the political and Westminster correspondents seem to dislike Galloway so much? - Because they've met him]
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http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/guardian-offers-bizarre-new-defense-hiring-islamophobic-murder-inciter-joshua (http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/guardian-offers-bizarre-new-defense-hiring-islamophobic-murder-inciter-joshua)
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Hurrah for the Daily Mail!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19369365 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19369365)
Proud of yourselves now, are you after all that scaremongering about the measles vaccinations?
[And that goes double for Ian Hislop and Heather Mills and Private Eye - you should have known better!]
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hello-mum-this-is-going-to-be-hard-for-you-to-read-1753008.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hello-mum-this-is-going-to-be-hard-for-you-to-read-1753008.html)
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that gets pretty hard to read.
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Heeeeeeere's Georgie…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/27/george-galloway-criticised-window-licker-tweet?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/27/george-galloway-criticised-window-licker-tweet?CMP=twt_gu)
Galloway made the comment during a conversation on Sunday. He tweeted to @Hawfa: "you badly need medical help son. Will decent Rangers fans please substitute this windae-licker … "
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/08/28/us/ap-us-yosemite-rodent-disease.html?_r=3&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/08/28/us/ap-us-yosemite-rodent-disease.html?_r=3&hp)
Might reduce crowding a bit.
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what.the.fuck
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19424484 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19424484)
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what.the.fuck
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19424484 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19424484)
'The prosecution is relying on the "common purpose" doctrine, once used by the former white minority regime against black activists fighting for democracy.'
Disturbing.
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To lose one's way once on the Cumbrian Fells smacks of misfortune.
To lose one's way twice smacks of carelessness -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-19456070 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-19456070)
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Dunno if this belongs here, but isn't this just utterly fantastic on so many levels?
https://twitter.com/Cam_Baxter/status/242357991335145472
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Just when you thought the Tories couldn't get any worse.
Jeremy Hunt is Health Secretary. Quite aside from the fact that after the Sky scandal he shouldn't even be in a job......
http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/jeremy-hunt-new-health-secretary-called-for-t (http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/jeremy-hunt-new-health-secretary-called-for-t)
Words fail me but it gets better / worse......
Maria Miller Culture Secretary and also Minister for WOMEN AND EQUALITY?
https://twitter.com/SteMcCormick/status/242966701010984960/photo/1/large (https://twitter.com/SteMcCormick/status/242966701010984960/photo/1/large)
Oh and they've got rid of one of the only "good un's" Ken Clarke.
Must admit I've not had time to read that much about these or the other changes but I don't think I need to. This looks like a huge lurch even further Right by Cameron and even more proof (not needed) that he hasn't got a clue what he's doing. Jeremy Hunt? I can't believe it's not some elaborate joke.....
:no:
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That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0#ws)
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Jeremy Hunt is Health Secretary
He was head boy at Charterhouse and his middle name is Streynsham. Sounds like a bloody solid sort of chap to me.
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Don't forget shuffling Justine Greening out of her job to make way for a third runway at Heathrow...
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Proof, positive, if any more were needed that he is an utter, complete, and total fucking cunt.
This was his last act in his last post:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/bazalgette-given-arts-council-job-16206669.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/bazalgette-given-arts-council-job-16206669.html)
TV executive Sir Peter Bazalgette, the man behind Big Brother. has been appointed chairman of the Arts Council England.
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/bazalgette-given-arts-council-job-16206669.html#ixzz25X2ST56H (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/bazalgette-given-arts-council-job-16206669.html#ixzz25X2ST56H)
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Everyone's got to have a hobby.
Ships in bottles, bouldering, angling, constructing pipe-bombs…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-19469701 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-19469701)
Smith told police it was a "hobby" when they found two pipe bombs in a workshop at his home earlier this year.
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It's normal in 'ull.
Nothing like a relaxing evening fusing up limpet mines...
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an acquaintance of mine that aways made 'napalm' once, which consisted of soap and pertrol in an ice cream tub. I wonder where he is now. . . .
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I had a hobby making pipe bombs when I was about fifteen, got very good at making electric detonaters out of match-heads and fuse wire, but never figured a way of sealing the final pipe end so it wouldn't blow out. Anyone got any tips?
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This year's Darwin Award?
http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC120905-0000147/Man-dies-after-playground-stunt-by-Internet-video-group (http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC120905-0000147/Man-dies-after-playground-stunt-by-Internet-video-group)
The 20-year-old male died from head injuries after being thrown six yards by the spinning carousel in a playground in the Bavarian town of Oberviehbach.
Part of a group known for posting footage of dangerous stunts on the Internet, the man, known only as Tobias, had been strapped by tape to the carousel, and then friends wrapped a rope tied to the car around it.
They then climbed into the BMW and accelerated away, spinning the merry-go-round but the centrifugal force got the better of the man's moorings and sent him flying, reported The Daily Telegraph.
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Deep-fried Mars Bars - “neither authorised nor endorsed by Mars”:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19487149 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19487149)
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Was about to post that link, class.
we wouldn't be able to support it as deep-frying one of our products would go against our commitment to promoting healthy, active lifestyles."
The product that is essentially goo topped with toffee and covered in sugar.
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Wow....
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.100-why-wood-pulp-is-worlds-new-wonder-material.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.100-why-wood-pulp-is-worlds-new-wonder-material.html)
8)
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Wow....
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.100-why-wood-pulp-is-worlds-new-wonder-material.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.100-why-wood-pulp-is-worlds-new-wonder-material.html)
8)
Yup, good old nature eh!
but... it burns, could be tricky to make watertight, and looks like it uses shit loads of acid to extract it from pulped wood... no such thing as a free lunch etc...
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Yeah in the comments it says it chars at 300 degrees centigrade and (always being a cynical cunt and knowing nothing about science) I presumed there would be other problems. Still, shows how technological advances can completely alter the possible uses of previously useless materials. Think we'll see a lot more of this type of thing.
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Yeah in the comments it says it chars at 300 degrees centigrade and (always being a cynical cunt and knowing nothing about science) I presumed there would be other problems. Still, shows how technological advances can completely alter the possible uses of previously useless materials. Think we'll see a lot more of this type of thing.
It'll be good to make use of all those unsold wedges ;)
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:lol:
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Nick Clegg turns into Glenn Hoddle:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19555757 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19555757)
Extracts released early by officials said: "Continued trouble in the economy gives the bigots a stick to beat us with, as they demand we 'postpone' the equalities agenda in order to deal with 'the things people really care about'."
Within an hour aides had corrected the text, which said: "Continued trouble in the economy leads some people to demand we 'postpone' the equalities agenda in order to deal with 'the things people really care about'."
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Sources close to Mr Clegg said he chose to withdraw the accusation because he feared using the word "bigot" would dominate the debate on gay marriage.
And what word would you use to describe someone who believes they've the right to cheat people out of the right to get married?
"Cunt", perhaps?
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Satire overload:
Met Police officer Richard Bent is charged with theft
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19567292 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19567292)
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Is this the beginning of the final chapter, one resulting in convictions of the guilty? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-19543964)
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/history/hillsborough (http://www.liverpoolfc.com/history/hillsborough)
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I've read his statement to the Commons, but didn't see/hear it.
I despise and loathe everything the man stands for politically, but that's a great thing to say to the Commons and the nation - and to acknowledge the previous government set in train the enquiry.
Almost statesmanlike?
[And cements his reputation as a social liberal, albeit not a political or economic one]
[There's a thread over on football, btw. Can the mods merge these?]
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I've read his statement to the Commons, but didn't see/hear it.
I saw PMQs. He got it right, and I believe he was sincere.
(I never imagined be able to say those things about Cameron. I doubt I will again.)
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In the days after the disaster, a narrative took hold that drunk Liverpool fans had caused the disaster by forcing a gate. Allegations were printed that Liverpool fans had pickpocketed the dead and hampered rescue attempts in an infamous Sun front page headlined "The Truth", which led to a still ongoing boycott of the paper on Merseyside. The Sun editor at the time, Kelvin MacKenzie, on Wednesday offered "profuse apologies" for the first time.
The panel found that the origin of the untrue claims was a local Sheffield press agency informed by four senior South Yorkshire police officers, a South Yorkshire Police Federations spokesperson and a local MP, Irvine Patnick.
SIR Irvine Patnick, MP for Sheffield Hallam, for those who were in Sheffield 87-97. John Mann MP (Lab) has written to DCameron to ask Patnick be stripped of his knighthood. He should have to give account under oath IMO.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19595221 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19595221)
A storm in a B-cup if you ask me.
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Ha, PR agent wannabe spends a couple of months pretending to be an 'expert' on loads of different things..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/mr-rentaquote-fools-mainstream-media-8007769.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/mr-rentaquote-fools-mainstream-media-8007769.html)
It would of course be wonderfully ironic if he'd also made up this story for the indy ;)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/sep/16/chris-brown-albums-being-sabotaged (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/sep/16/chris-brown-albums-being-sabotaged)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/9/14/1347644262847/Chris-Brown-albums-with-p-010.jpg)
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Crivens!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-19635910 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-19635910)
Mr Margrave was in a ditch off the A614 road:
A motorcyclist has been found alive in a ditch in South Yorkshire almost three days after crashing.
Anthony Margrave, 40, from Goole, East Yorkshire, was reported missing by his partner after he went out on his new motorbike last Tuesday.
Police, who searched for two days, said he was found seriously injured in the 6ft-deep ditch near Thorne where he had been for three nights.
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OFFS.
Someone's been back down to the crypt to attach the electrodes to the rotting corpse -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19643846 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19643846)
Lord Tebbit said arguments against capital punishment for murder "have always been thin"
Just fuck off and die you repugnant cunt!
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I hope he checked to see if the diners didn't have a "nut" allergy.
Yum yum... (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/japanese-man-served-genitals-guests-charged-indecent-exposure-074418062.html)
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OFFS.
Someone's been back down to the crypt to attach the electrodes to the rotting corpse -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19643846 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19643846)
About 150 people killed because their killers have been freed to kill again.
"Would our courts have sentenced to death three innocent people a year, year in year out? I doubt it
so as long as the number of innocent people hanged by the state remains, on average, below three per year, there's no problem with capital punishment?
next thing we know he'll be publishing a costing comparing the cost of compensating the families of people hung for murder who are later found to be innocent against the cost of the police and court time involved in dealing with muders by previously convicted murderers
mind you, if we use G4S as a private hanging contractor and let them charge all costs to the hangee, we'll be quids in there too
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9560853/Christian-league-match-abandoned-after-on-pitch-brawl.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9560853/Christian-league-match-abandoned-after-on-pitch-brawl.html)
The church promoting peace in the 21st century!
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Theres something reet fishy smelling about all this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19704020 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19704020)
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Wind whips up sea foam in Fife (http://benvironment.org.uk/post/32262395250/seafoam)...
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mawsovRqdq1ql4lq2o1_1280.jpg)
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:o
Looks like the buildings are about to be engulfed by a tsunami with that swell on the right.
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Its not actually Fife though, its Footdee in the east of Aberdeen. :oops:
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:o
Looks like the buildings are about to be engulfed by a tsunami with that swell on the right.
Or a make Kraken has just dropped its shopping...
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Nazi Buddha from space (http://t.co/cksbmOMK)
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South Yorkshire Police should unreservedly apologize over Hillsborough at the very least.
But not to everybody.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/9572146/Hillsborough-South-Yorkshire-Police-wont-apologise-to-Kelvin-MacKenzie.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/9572146/Hillsborough-South-Yorkshire-Police-wont-apologise-to-Kelvin-MacKenzie.html)
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Neither the person who carved it or the Nazis had any idea it was made from such a rare substance, he said guessed.
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Thanks for the link. Here's Kelvin Mackenzie's question:
According to extracts published on The Spectator's website, Mr MacKenzie writes: "Now I know - you know, we all know - that the fans were right.
"But it took 23 years, two inquiries, one inquest and research into 400,000 documents, many of which were kept secret under the 30-year no-publication rule, to discover there was a vast cover-up by South Yorkshire Police about the disaster.
"Where does that leave me?"
And here is a perfectly sensible answer from South Yorkshire Police Chief Constable David Crompton
He chose to write his own headline and he should accept responsibility for it."
Mackenzie trying to re-cast himself as victim is disgusting. What a creep.
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Thanks for the link. Here's Kelvin Mackenzie's question:
According to extracts published on The Spectator's website, Mr MacKenzie writes: "Now I know - you know, we all know - that the fans were right.
"But it took 23 years, two inquiries, one inquest and research into 400,000 documents, many of which were kept secret under the 30-year no-publication rule, to discover there was a vast cover-up by South Yorkshire Police about the disaster.
"Where does that leave me?"
And here is a perfectly sensible answer from South Yorkshire Police Chief Constable David Crompton
He chose to write his own headline and he should accept responsibility for it."
Mackenzie trying to re-cast himself as victim is disgusting. What a creep.
The facts were known 23 years ago when Taylor published the first report.
His findings were unambiguous.
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Legend!
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/912716-woman-jailed-after-drunkenly-stealing-ferry-and-claiming-she-was-a-pirate (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/912716-woman-jailed-after-drunkenly-stealing-ferry-and-claiming-she-was-a-pirate)
I'm Jack Sparrow!
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That is superb:
When the officers joined lifeboat crews on the river and tried to intercept the boat, Whelan hurled abuse at them shouting, ‘What are you going to do now?’ and ‘I believe this is out of your jurisdiction’.
:lol:
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Quality reporting as she 'drifted like a pinball machine down the river' before 'coming to rest upstream'...
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So good, even made it onto R4 on the day!
The 51-year-old’s boat was well and truly rocked by a combination of hallucinogenic nightshade plants and Lambrini wine.
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Richard Littlejohn.
Cock
[From Monday, btw]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2208036/Lib-Dem-conference-Read-lips--Toytown-taxes-Nick-Clegg.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fdebate%2Fcolumnists%2Fcolumnist-322%2FRichard-Littlejohn.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2208036/Lib-Dem-conference-Read-lips--Toytown-taxes-Nick-Clegg.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fdebate%2Fcolumnists%2Fcolumnist-322%2FRichard-Littlejohn.html)
[Queue for the iPhone5 refers]
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The corporate media has been largely ignoring massive protests against neoliberal austerity measures throughout europe in the last few years.
With politicking and threats of public funding cuts, the BBC seems to be more of a government propaganda machine than ever.
In these dire times for impartiality of the press, I'm linking an American news site!
Last night in Spain: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/spain/120929/2-injured-12-detained-madrid-protests-turn-violent-again (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/spain/120929/2-injured-12-detained-madrid-protests-turn-violent-again)
SPANISH PROTESTS - Thousand Gather At The Gates Of Power To Vent Their Anger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4jK4D4C4TA#ws) "they must be absolutely shitting themselves" hehe
There were bigger protests earlier in the week and vast ones earlier in the year.
Insane protest "prevention" tactics by the police
Spanish Police Crack Down on Protesters Surrounding the Parliament (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czx53ZaoiyA#ws)
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Looks like the Spanish police need to get some lessons from the brits in applying a kettle! ;)
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Now then now then
www.itv.com/news/2012-09-30/bbc-jimmy-savile-accused-of-sexually-abusing-girls-in-itv-exposure-documentary/ (http://www.itv.com/news/2012-09-30/bbc-jimmy-savile-accused-of-sexually-abusing-girls-in-itv-exposure-documentary/)
Nonsense or nonce sense? Looks pretty bad.
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Not great is it.
On a lighter note - only in Aberdeen.
http://news.stv.tv/north/192701-fire-brigade-called-out-after-man-gets-his-head-stuck-in-a-rubbish-bin/ (http://news.stv.tv/north/192701-fire-brigade-called-out-after-man-gets-his-head-stuck-in-a-rubbish-bin/)
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Any of the iPhone detractors and tub-thumpers for Android in today?
Not so smug now, are you?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19784413 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19784413)
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Any of the iPhone detractors and tub-thumpers for Android in today?
Not so smug now, are you?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19784413 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19784413)
Read about that last week, but you can be sure that the bug will be squashed (good reason for keeping phones upto date) if it hasn't already been patched already (quite possibly in some of the custom ROMs.
You also have to install a malicious application to do that, and I'd hazard a guess that any such applications aren't permitted in Play (and any that are found are removed sharpish). A good reason not to use cracked applications from 3rd party app sites.
(There's also a dedicated IT News (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,13578.0.html) thread).
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On a lighter note - only in Aberdeen.
http://news.stv.tv/north/192701-fire-brigade-called-out-after-man-gets-his-head-stuck-in-a-rubbish-bin/ (http://news.stv.tv/north/192701-fire-brigade-called-out-after-man-gets-his-head-stuck-in-a-rubbish-bin/)
The story that keeps on giving....
"Head in bin man was looking for hat"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19790191 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19790191)
"I walked around the corner and saw his walking stick on the ground and his bum sticking out and said 'that's Willie'.
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63215000/jpg/_63215551_bin_man.jpg)
As pointed out by Mark Radcliffe on 6 music yesterday, those lads at the bottom of the picture are straight out of The Beano and just need a "Chortle" speech bubble to complete the look.
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Read about that last week, but you can be sure that the bug will be squashed (good reason for keeping phones upto date) if it hasn't already been patched already (quite possibly in some of the custom ROMs.
Should have read in more detail, the article states the bug was discovered in June 2012 and a patch made available to all manufacturers within a week (Pretty damn fast, I'd like to see closed source projects move so quickly).
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So the story is "Malicious Code That's No Use To Criminals Stamped Out Within A Week By Google" spun to make Android look flawed. Another nice bit of Apple marketing masquerading as news. How do they get away with it?
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So the story is "Malicious Code That's No Use To Criminals Stamped Out Within A Week By Google" spun to make Android look flawed. Another nice bit of Apple marketing masquerading as news. How do they get away with it?
Because people are gullible enough to believe whatever apple tell them. :slap:
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OK, or "malicious code that's no use to criminals but can wipe your phone if you click on a link - is still a threat to many (most?) android phones because of the many versions of OS out there"....? ;)
Anyway, isnt this really IT news....?
(http://www.combatgold1.co.uk/images/funny/forum/thread-direction.jpg)
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OK, or "malicious code that's no use to criminals but can wipe your phone if you click on a link - is still a threat to many (most?) android phones because of the many versions of OS out there"....? ;)
All the more reason for individuals to take charge of their technology, gen up and ensure they are up to date.
The notion that "things just workTM" and you should be able to pay companies to sell you something that doesn't require any knowledge on what its doing and how it works is outdated, backwards and ultimately detrimental to users themselves.
Anyway, isnt this really IT news....?
:agree:
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OK, or "malicious code that's no use to criminals but can wipe your phone if you click on a link - is still a threat to many (most?) android phones because of the many versions of OS out there"....? ;)
All the more reason for individuals to take charge of their technology, gen up and ensure they are up to date.
The notion that "things just workTM" and you should be able to pay companies to sell you something that doesn't require any knowledge on what its doing and how it works is outdated, backwards and ultimately detrimental to users themselves.
I disagree - its a consumer product - designed to do a task/job/operation not a commitment to furthering ones knowledge :)
Taking it a step further, your retail concept is really quite bizarre.. that when you buy something you should know how to fix it, how it operates and be expected to perform updates/maintenance yourself.. Buying a train ticket would be fun! We're stopping at Crewe because the points needs changing. Could passengers please arrange for the points to be changed then we can resume our journey ;) Ah, signal is showing amber, could someone tell us what we need to do now please... Hmm, this seat isnt reserved when it should be - I think I'd better hack into the booking system and sort it out...
You've one of the reasons for Apples success... stuff just works - and most people dont want to root their phones (which probably has an amusing meaning in Australia)
Anyway, each to their own - and I probably sit somewhere between the two. Interested in how stuff works, but most of the time not that bothered as long as it does...
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You don't have to root your Android phone. I haven't and mine "just works" fine. This is the sad misconception. Anyway, leave it...... :off:
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Yes sorry :( Back to the news...
Here's a picture of a cock.
(http://www.arthistorynews.com/i/entries/1061.jpg)
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The train analogy is whack as you're buying a service in that instance rather than a product.
A better analogy would be buying a car.
You can buy a car without knowing how to operate it but it would be pretty fucking useless, so before people go out and buy cars they tend to take lessons and have to demonstrate that they have attained a certain level of proficiency in using it. This includes basic maintenance, because the highway code specifies that drivers should know how to check their car for road-worthiness before every journey. Not that everyone does this, but there are some who probably don't know how to check tyre pressure or oil when they should be able to do so.
Sounds closer to learning a bit about your computer/operating system now that you're buying something to own and use rather than a service to transport you from A to B.
Besides, Macs don't "just work" see Doylo's thread about iTunes, Monoliths kernel panics, Grimers on-going saga of getting to know his new Mac etc. etc. When you switch from PC to Mac you have to learn how to use the OS as its different. The same is true of any computing device!!! Some have steeper learning curves than others but its a misconception that everything will be identical between different products, yes they're similar due to convergent design but not identical and never will be (see patents dispute bollocks).
And if your seat isn't reserved on a train you don't think you'll hack into the system to sort that because the booking system isn't going to go and print out a new reserved ticket and put it on your seat (with the exception of some of the Midland and Virgin trains that have electronic displays above the seats), you go and find the conductor who...oh wait, they've cut back on staff tough shit!
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Anyway, leave it...... :off:
Can these posts be moved to the IT News thread please?
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Anyway, leave it...... :off:
Can these posts be moved to the IT News thread please?
Sorry. Yes. Quite right. [I'd thought there was such a forum/thread, but couldn't find it after an extensive search*, so put it into "news"]
* All of five seconds.
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Could this be why the country is in such a dire fucking state....
47% of MPs surveyed (and 77% of Labour MPs) can not multiply simple probabilities yet the majority claim to be numerate (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19801666)
The man in charge of the [Labout] party's policy review, Jon Cruddas, admitted this weekend that he is "barely numerate".
Yeah that makes sense! Fucking idiots!
I guess the only saving grace is that most think statistics are indeed abused when used in spin.
:no: :no: :no:
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An interesting look at this years Turner Prize cohort.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/video/2012/oct/02/turner-prize-2012-adrian-searle-video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/video/2012/oct/02/turner-prize-2012-adrian-searle-video)
Also - is it just me, or does Adrian Searle come across as Jeremy Clarksons alter-ego... theres something similar there. I'm not sure who would be more insulted by my statement though!
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How Politics Works:
1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19267430 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19267430)
2. (http://atwoyearold.com/image/a6a95a9dc083cc3218868b33c9b7084c)
3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809717 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809717)
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First made promises they were never going to be able to keep to win the contract, which Branson pointed out as totally ridiculous at the time. I'm happy about this, I think the Virgin lines are the nicest ones in the country.
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Does anyone else get this image in their head every time the government do another U-Turn?
(http://www.booktasmaniaaccommodation.com.au/blog/wp-content/pushups/2011/03/Taz.jpg)
One or policy reversals in a term shows you're not afraid to say "yup, we got it wrong". However, it starts to look a bit embarrassing when it happens twice a month....
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Quite ironic on today of all days.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=eUemTNZDRXo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DeUemTNZDRXo (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=eUemTNZDRXo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DeUemTNZDRXo)
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Does anyone else get this image in their head every time the government do another U-Turn?
One or policy reversals in a term shows you're not afraid to say "yup, we got it wrong". However, it starts to look a bit embarrassing when it happens twice a month....
Well, it all bodes well for the NHS privatisation thats going on at the moment... lets hope they get their sums properly audited for that one too..
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Oh, that one was easy for Osborne and Lansley.
Ageing population, obesity and new drugs? Check!
£20bn cut to budget by 2015? Check!
GPs with little experience of commissioning? Check!
and finally...
GPs' budgets set by Treasury? Check!!
Failure is guaranteed, and easily achieved. Who's going to audit that one? Jeremy Hunt?!!
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The commissioning board are short a few staff at the mo too!
Good piece on commissioning from yesterday http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/02/why-i-quit-nhs-commissioning-champion?INTCMP=SRCH (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/02/why-i-quit-nhs-commissioning-champion?INTCMP=SRCH)
I remember Ben Goldacre tweeting that he thought the commissioning boards were being set up to fail to allow private companies to manage that part of the process too...
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Bionic bees!
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/03/robot-bee-brains (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/03/robot-bee-brains)
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Bionic bees!
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/03/robot-bee-brains (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/03/robot-bee-brains)
Obviously ideal for keeping track of folk whilst out bouldering in Font. Genius!
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It just keeps getting better for this government. Way to go chaps.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/03/new-uk-nuclear-power-station-setback (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/03/new-uk-nuclear-power-station-setback)
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YOU. FAT. BASTARDS!
YOU. FAT. BASTARDS!
YOU. FAT. BASTARDS!
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-19817457)
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Man dies after winning cockroach eating contest (http://news.sky.com/story/995153/man-dies-after-winning-roach-eating-contest) :sick: :shrug: :no:
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Man dies after winning cockroach eating contest (http://news.sky.com/story/995153/man-dies-after-winning-roach-eating-contest) :sick: :shrug: :no:
shit, isn't that
(http://assets.u.tv/fm104blogs/suzanne.kane/582009/Mo%20Fo.jpg)
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Wow.. It's not often I'm taken by a 15 min video of a politicians monologue, but this is quite something.... Australian pm Julia Guilard puts the opposition leader in his squirming place over sexism...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-09/julia-gillard-attacks-abbott-of-hypocrisy/4303634
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here's some useful science
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0043007 (http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0043007)
some more research needs doing to see what happens when multiple drinks are consumed....
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I'll volunteer for the multi-drink research! :beer2: :pissed:
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apart from the multiple drinks trial, we also need to try out glasses that are wider at the base than they are at the top - if the hypothesis is correct, then the way that these will disrupt the subjects ability to judge where the half full point is will cause even slower drinking
my mind experiment where the diameter of the top of the glass tends towards zero seems to agree with the hypothesis.... at diameters below 1mm anyway
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Attempting to break the sound barrier without a vehicle...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19867246 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19867246)
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Attempting to break the sound barrier without a vehicle...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19867246 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19867246)
Next attempt due on Sunday, 6:30am 'MDT' which I think is 1:30pm BST.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19916243 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19916243)
Talk about money laundering!
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Phone bill == 5000 x French GDP!!! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/oct/11/french-phone-bill) :blink:
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Fucking hell they're all at it! Welcome to paedogeddon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9603959/John-Peel-got-15-year-old-pregnant-after-meeting-at-Black-Sabbath-concert-claims-woman.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9603959/John-Peel-got-15-year-old-pregnant-after-meeting-at-Black-Sabbath-concert-claims-woman.html)
I dread to think what's going to be uncovered next about some dead celeb in the music industry. George Formby raping badgers or something.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8930168/Allowing-women-drivers-in-Saudi-Arabia-will-be-end-of-virginity.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8930168/Allowing-women-drivers-in-Saudi-Arabia-will-be-end-of-virginity.html)
This gem really caught my eye, "It warned that allowing women to drive would "provoke a surge in prostitution, pr0nography, homosexuality and divorce".
Within 10 years of the ban being lifted, it claimed, there would be "no more virgins" in the Islamic kingdom."
Bring it on.
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I dread to think what's going to be uncovered next about some dead celeb in the music industry. George Formby raping badgers or something.
What was he up to when he was cleaning windows eh!
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Here? Or "Ultimate Internet"?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5Jmw9WCEAAvIbW.jpg)
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What a strangely unflattering picture of her.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uk-4L8Jq588/T9UabQCeq0I/AAAAAAAAD9Y/g4WHlmXZzVQ/s1600/victoria_coren_cleavage.jpg)
Thaaaats, better. :2thumbsup:
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What a strangely unflattering picture of her.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvps7vMoy61qdna0x.jpg)
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Meanwhile, off the Atlantic Coast of America, Lt JG Phillips, CPO Pertwee, and Lt-Cdr Murray facing court-martial charges -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19940049 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19940049)
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Meanwhile, off the Atlantic Coast of America, Lt JG Phillips, CPO Pertwee, and Lt-Cdr Murray facing court-martial charges -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19940049 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19940049)
Wow! You're showing your age...
Right hand down a bit...
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Meanwhile, off the Atlantic Coast of America, Lt JG Phillips, CPO Pertwee, and Lt-Cdr Murray facing court-martial charges -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19940049 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19940049)
Wow! You're showing your age...
Right hand down a bit...
Nah. They're repeating it on R4 Extra.
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It seems to be official.
Most people are cunts, it would appear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19792066 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19792066)
Should benefit claimants be prevented from spending the money given to them by the state on alcohol, gambling, cigarettes and other "vices"?
A poll commissioned by think tank Demos suggests most people would support such a move.
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And here's Demos' own website on that self-same story:
http://www.demos.co.uk/press_releases/majority-support-government-control-of-how-people-spend-benefit-payments (http://www.demos.co.uk/press_releases/majority-support-government-control-of-how-people-spend-benefit-payments)
Demos’s Deputy Director Claudia Wood said: 'These findings paint a worrying picture of a nation divided between welfare claimants and the rest.
“It suggests that many now view the welfare state as a form of charity towards the poor rather than social insurance for all. If the majority still saw the welfare state as an insurance scheme - a contract of protection in return for contribution - then people would be more supportive of autonomy for benefit claimants.”
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(And that's before you read who commissioned the survey, and why)
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Hurrah for Theresa May!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138)
British computer hacker Gary McKinnon will not be extradited to the US, Home Secretary Theresa May has announced.
Mr McKinnon, 46, who admits accessing US government computers but claims he was looking for evidence of UFOs, has been fighting extradition since 2002.
The home secretary told MPs there was no doubt Mr McKinnon was "seriously ill" and the extradition warrant against him should be withdrawn.
Now how come any of our previous Home Secretaries since 2002 couldn't decide that?
(Blunkett, Clarke, Reid, Smith, Johnson.
I'm looking at you here!)
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Hurrah for Theresa May!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138)
British computer hacker Gary McKinnon will not be extradited to the US, Home Secretary Theresa May has announced.
Mr McKinnon, 46, who admits accessing US government computers but claims he was looking for evidence of UFOs, has been fighting extradition since 2002.
The home secretary told MPs there was no doubt Mr McKinnon was "seriously ill" and the extradition warrant against him should be withdrawn.
Mrs May said the sole issue she had to consider was his human rights.
Right, those human rights you are also trying to repel (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/10/theresa-may-criminals-deportation) Mrs May? Make your mind up you hypocrite. :wank:
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Credit where it's due. Well done David Burrowes.
This is what MPs are supposed to do, represent and stand up for their constituents. He may be a Tory cunt but in putting his job on the line for the sake of doing the right thing by one of the people he was elected to serve he's shown a rare glimpse of how politics is supposed to work.
Well done.
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Why you shouldn't put total faith in Wikipedia.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/9611256/Asian-Football-Confederation-apologises-to-UAE-after-branding-team-Sand-Monkeys-on-website.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/9611256/Asian-Football-Confederation-apologises-to-UAE-after-branding-team-Sand-Monkeys-on-website.html)
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That Romney / Ryan budget proposal in full!
http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ (http://www.romneytaxplan.com/)
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That Romney / Ryan budget proposal in full!
http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ (http://www.romneytaxplan.com/)
Excellent! Reminds me of a class I used to teach on Visual Basic programming where I got the students to make a little windows box with "I am thick" with a yes and no button. When you hovered over the no button the text changed to yes etc.. :)
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Hurrah for Theresa May!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138)
British computer hacker Gary McKinnon will not be extradited to the US, Home Secretary Theresa May has announced.
Mr McKinnon, 46, who admits accessing US government computers but claims he was looking for evidence of UFOs, has been fighting extradition since 2002.
The home secretary told MPs there was no doubt Mr McKinnon was "seriously ill" and the extradition warrant against him should be withdrawn.
Now how come any of our previous Home Secretaries since 2002 couldn't decide that?
(Blunkett, Clarke, Reid, Smith, Johnson.
I'm looking at you here!)
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-10-16/alan-johnson-accuses-home-secretary-of-serving-party-interests/ (http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-10-16/alan-johnson-accuses-home-secretary-of-serving-party-interests/)
A former Home Secretary has accused Theresa May of blocking Gary McKinnon's extradition to serve her Conservative party.
Alan Johnson, who served as Home Secretary under Labour from June 2009 to May 2010 said: "Gary McKinnon is accused of very serious offences.
"The US was perfectly within its rights, and it was extremely reasonable of them, to seek his extradition.
"We now do not know whether Gary McKinnon will ever have to face justice on those accusations."
He added: "The Home Secretary has made a decision today that's in her own party's best interest; it is not in the best interests of the country."
What a good job then, she's acted in the best interests of Gary McKinnon.
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Didn't he hack the computers because he believed there was a government alien cover up X Files style?
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Didn't he hack the computers because he believed there was a government alien cover up X Files style?
A simplistic resumé of the facts, but yeah. More or less.
[Notwithstanding the suppression of free energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression)
]
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Double standards at work. Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan were extradited to the US two weeks ago for similar offences and Ahmad has Aspergers. McKinnon committed some serious wrongdoing and should still face trial in the UK.
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Double standards at work. Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan were extradited to the US two weeks ago for similar offences and Ahmad has Aspergers. McKinnon committed some serious wrongdoing and should still face trial in the UK.
I agree. Sadly it all feels a bit daily mail, white UK terrorist suspect stays at home, non white terror suspects deported to USA....
From what I can see from the media their motivation seems maybe different(if we assume guilt), but im not sure the points of law are.
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Once again DAG cuts to the (legal) chase on this:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/10/gary-mckinnon (http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/10/gary-mckinnon)
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Another false positive for the UK Police (http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/blind-man-tasered-in-police-blunder-1-5034507). :no:
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Double standards at work. Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan were extradited to the US two weeks ago for similar offences and Ahmad has Aspergers. McKinnon committed some serious wrongdoing and should still face trial in the UK.
Can't disagree.
Spot anything here in the headline which is somewhat at odds to the second half of the story here?
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/915259-anger-over-gary-mckinnon-decision-from-us-and-family-of-babar-ahmad (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/915259-anger-over-gary-mckinnon-decision-from-us-and-family-of-babar-ahmad)
nb. The Metro is a Daily Mail imprint
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Bubba, what have you been upto?! ;)
Smack (down) that ass!!! (http://uk.eonline.com/news/354769/hulk-hogan-sex-tape-smackdown-bubba-the-love-sponge-is-a-victim-says-lawyer)
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Another false positive for the UK Police (http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/blind-man-tasered-in-police-blunder-1-5034507). :no:
Just so terrible, somone should get charged with assault! (I was going to say shocking, but though that in poor taste)
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Your first pun was quite subtle - almost missed it!
Who's have thought that "Da News" would be the best place for current affairs.
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I always thought it had potential.
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Yup it's always buzzing.
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Ohm my God! not another pun related thread.
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Why all this fuss about publishing an MEP's home address? Didn't he have to do that himself when he stood for election to parliament?
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Another false positive for the UK Police (http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/blind-man-tasered-in-police-blunder-1-5034507). :no:
Just so terrible, somone should get charged with assault! (I was going to say shocking, but though that in poor taste)
Fucking thugs and idiots.
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Shocking.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/18/bnp-nick-griffin-address-gay-couple
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Shocking.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/18/bnp-nick-griffin-address-gay-couple (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/18/bnp-nick-griffin-address-gay-couple)
GODWIIIIIIIIIN!!!!
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Breaking News on Twitter:
Gideon sits in First Class seat with Standard Ticket.
Demands to be allowed to stay, ticket collector says, "no".
https://twitter.com/RachTownsendITV
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Breaking News on Twitter:
Gideon sits in First Class seat with Standard Ticket.
Demands to be allowed to stay, ticket collector says, "no".
https://twitter.com/RachTownsendITV
Life imitates art. It really is like the thick of it.... especially with yesterdays energyshambles
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The Thick of it, series 4, episode 4. Broadcast 29 Sept 2012. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01n6vvc/The_Thick_of_It_Series_4_Episode_4/)
Nicola Murray (leader of opposition) and adviser Helen on a train.
Nicola suggests upgrading.
Helen advises: "First class? You might as well take a shit in the aisle..."
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I reckon the Saville horror story is only the tip of the iceberg. Our so called cherished institutions are going to have a lot of light shone in some very dark places.
Saville, Jersey, Edward Heath, the Thatcher cabinet, the BBC....
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I reckon the Saville horror story is only the tip of the iceberg. Our so called cherished institutions are going to have a lot of light shone in some very dark places.
Saville, Jersey, Edward Heath, the Thatcher cabinet, the BBC....
Wilfrid Brambell:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9616121/Jimmy-Savile-Steptoe-and-Son-actor-Wilfrid-Brambell-abused-boys-in-Jersey-claims-whistleblower.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9616121/Jimmy-Savile-Steptoe-and-Son-actor-Wilfrid-Brambell-abused-boys-in-Jersey-claims-whistleblower.html)
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"Tip of the iceberg" indeed....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9620223/Jimmy-Savile-He-was-the-tip-of-the-iceberg.html
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'kinell!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/10/25/obama-colin-powell-endrosement/1656437/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/10/25/obama-colin-powell-endrosement/1656437/)
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(http://img.viame-cdn.com/photos/7a17a910-01a6-0130-baeb-123138153c35/r600x600.jpg)
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Who'd've thunk it, eh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20102215 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20102215)
Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been sentenced to four years in prison for tax fraud.
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Time for a Rat Rock conditions thread?
(Sorry, poor taste but couldn't resist)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225438/Growing-cannabis-home-criminal-offence.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225438/Growing-cannabis-home-criminal-offence.html)
I haven't got time, but I'm sure there must be some quality comments from Mail readers somewhere under this story
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(http://img.viame-cdn.com/photos/7a17a910-01a6-0130-baeb-123138153c35/r600x600.jpg)
I'm calling this as bogus.
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Sounds like he should have worn Newcastles away strip instead...
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225438/Growing-cannabis-home-criminal-offence.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225438/Growing-cannabis-home-criminal-offence.html)
I haven't got time, but I'm sure there must be some quality comments from Mail readers somewhere under this story
Somewhat surprisingly, all the top rated comments are speaking sense and agreeing with decriminalisation.
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must be a different Daily Mail :shrug:
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Trick? Or treat?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20172392 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20172392)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20171227 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20171227)
Presumably we're supposed to conclude all these darkies who've died in the Caribbean aren't proper people?
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or even the 1800+ who bought it in New Orleans in '05.
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Amsterdam retains some of its 'charm' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20165371) :2thumbsup:
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Denis MacShane "effectively writing cheques to himself"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20178332 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20178332)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/02/labour-expels-denis-macshane-expenses (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/02/labour-expels-denis-macshane-expenses)
“I am shocked and saddened that the BNP has won its three-year campaign to destroy my political career as a Labour MP despite a full police investigation which decided not to proceed after investigations and interviews. I am glad the committee notes that there is no question of personal gain.”
Yeah. Right.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/standards-and-privileges-committee/membership/ (http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/standards-and-privileges-committee/membership/)
Rt hon Kevin Barron MP (Chair) Labour
Sir Paul Beresford MP Conservative
Annette Brooke MP Liberal Democrat
Rt hon Tom Clarke MP Labour
Mr Geoffrey Cox MP Conservative
Matthew Hancock MP Conservative
Oliver Heald MP Conservative
Julie Hilling MP Labour
Heather Wheeler MP Conservative
Dr Alan Whitehead MP Labour
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Fucking pisstaker. Should be doing time for embezzlement.
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I'm a bit unclear exactly what he's done given his statement so contradicts the committee, but they obviously think it's fraud.
Fair enough.
Where I struggle is this: cheating the taxpayer - fraud - generally results in a criminal conviction. see here for examples:
http://benefitfraud.blogspot.co.uk/2012_01_01_archive.html (http://benefitfraud.blogspot.co.uk/2012_01_01_archive.html)
A Weymouth man has been warned he faces jail after admitting benefit fraud charges totalling nearly £40,000.
Just as well that chap didn't have a home in Yeovil, eh, David Laws?
read this (http://maryhamilton.co.uk/2012/09/david-laws-and-benefit-fraud/)
So why don't MPs get equality under the law? They're usually quick enough pay lip service to its obligations upon us. Are we really all 'in it together'?
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Mr. Burns Endorses Romney | The Simpsons | Animation on Fox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCIEbLMaQg#ws)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Kuntz Korner: A late contender enters the fray -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227086/They-angels-Headmistresss-cruel-dismissal-girls-abused-Jimmy-Savile-claims-told-to.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227086/They-angels-Headmistresss-cruel-dismissal-girls-abused-Jimmy-Savile-claims-told-to.html)
Schoolgirls molested by Jimmy Savile were dismissed as 'delinquents' yesterday by their former headmistress.
Margaret Jones said some of her pupils at Duncroft Approved School were 'no angels', and had traded sex for cigarettes.
Some were coming forward now with 'wild allegations' about abuse only to make money, and had only themselves to blame if they had not complained at the time, she claimed.
Glad we've got that cleared up at last.
Time to move on then?
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-sues-wife-for-being-ugly-1415695 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-sues-wife-for-being-ugly-1415695)
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BBC worried that aliens might swear on live tv:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-11-07/brian-cox-bbc-feared-aliens-might-breach-editorial-guidelines (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-11-07/brian-cox-bbc-feared-aliens-might-breach-editorial-guidelines)
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Extraordinary statement from Cameron linking Gays with paedophiles:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939)
"There is a danger, if we're not careful, that this could turn into a sort of witch-hunt, particularly against people who are gay and I'm worried about the sort of thing you are doing right now - giving me a list of names that you've taken off the internet."
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Extraordinary statement from Cameron linking Gays with paedophiles:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939)
"There is a danger, if we're not careful, that this could turn into a sort of witch-hunt, particularly against people who are gay and I'm worried about the sort of thing you are doing right now - giving me a list of names that you've taken off the internet."
I heard it on the radio - its a really weird thing to say - I cant really fathom what he means by it or what it means about him...
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Bizarre.
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Bizarre.
Exactly.. is sexuality linked to Paedophilia? I didn't think so. Therefore, what makes him think that?
Skeletons (male or female) in the Cameron closet per-chance?
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You never know what funny ideas some folk will have though. I was recently read the comment from not so long ago when the judge sentenced Jonathan King for child sex offences, describing him as a "predatory homosexual paedophile", kinda implying that if there's one thing worse than a nonce then its a bent nonce. Wy as a judge you would need to make that distinction I don't know.
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I'm certainly not a Cameron supporter but I'm with him on this one. Allegations of paedophilia are for the police, not for the PM and definitely not for throwing around sans evidence on the internet.
The gay part of the comment is pretty mental. The radio tells me that it is out of context and that Cameron has been advised that many of the allegations are aimed at gay people by Daily Mail homophobes. A poor choice of words from Cameron to be sure.
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Bishop of Durham Justin Welby hears of protest telephone call on the appointment of "female Archbishop of Canterbury"
https://twitter.com/Bishopofdurham/status/266936850038538240
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I'm certainly not a Cameron supporter but I'm with him on this one. Allegations of paedophilia are for the police, not for the PM and definitely not for throwing around sans evidence on the internet.
The gay part of the comment is pretty mental. The radio tells me that it is out of context and that Cameron has been advised that many of the allegations are aimed at gay people by Daily Mail homophobes. A poor choice of words from Cameron to be sure.
It's to do with the historic nature of the allegations. Back then the age of legal consent for homosexuals was 18 or 21 ( can't remember which). Therefore if a man had sex with a man who was only 20 he was technically having unlawful sexual intercourse due to them being below the age of consent.
That was an offence back then but i hope can now be viewed as a sign of those times. To link the underage part to a predatory sex offender such as a paedophile is what Cameron was trying to make the distinction about. Unfortunately as he was so obviously too scared to say what he meant he fluffed it a bit.
i still can't believe a guy who spent the start of his career with a man under the desk in front of him who had his hand up a gopher had the gall to do what Schofield did.
The allegations from the child from the N Wales childrens home has now been retracted after someone showed him a picture of McAlpine and he said it wasn't him. WTF ? Nobody had thought to show him a picture before ? Newsnight need closing down like the NOTW. First off the brush Saville under the carpet and then expose an innocent man. :shit:
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Bet he's now wishing he went for a less job-specific twitter handle.
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did the list the cunt schofield gave cameron have names of un-outed gay men on it? and cameron babbled before thinking?
ive not seen much on the news about schofield apart from saying sorry,but if that had been the bbc people would have wanted blood.
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Norwegians, eh? Bastards!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325)
…his coffee is served cold, he does not have enough butter for his bread, and he is not allowed moisturiser.
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did the list the cunt schofield gave cameron have names of un-outed gay men on it? and cameron babbled before thinking?
ive not seen much on the news about schofield apart from saying sorry,but if that had been the bbc people would have wanted blood.
:agree:
Two comparable fuck-ups by two media organisations, related to the same story in the space of 24 hours, and the different responses by BBC and ITV shows the difference in public expectation between these two organisations. It's as if it's now taken for granted that ITV aren't a news organization to be taken seriously, like a pathetic TV-version of Twitter, but people expect much more from the Beeb - is this fair? Fuck knows. Schofield should be suspended and his programme editors fired for allowing that shit-show to happen.
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And of course ITV "News" was baying for the BBC's blood last night. I switched it off quickly.
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And why isn't anyone "baying for the bllod" of these [alleged*] abusers, and the police forces and prosecutors that haven't started proceedings against them?
* I think there's no doubt the abuse took place. It's the identities of the guilty that's moot.
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did the list the cunt schofield gave cameron have names of un-outed gay men on it? and cameron babbled before thinking?
ive not seen much on the news about schofield apart from saying sorry,but if that had been the bbc people would have wanted blood.
:agree:
Two comparable fuck-ups by two media organisations, related to the same story in the space of 24 hours, and the different responses by BBC and ITV shows the difference in public expectation between these two organisations. It's as if it's now taken for granted that ITV aren't a news organization to be taken seriously, like a pathetic TV-version of Twitter, but people expect much more from the Beeb - is this fair? Fuck knows. Schofield should be suspended and his programme editors fired for allowing that shit-show to happen.
Context: the tories hate the BBC, and thus the papers owned by murdoch etc and other tory benefactors will be taking this opportunity to try and undermine the BBC as much as possible. Lets not forget that murdoch owns a slice of ITV. The cunt.
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Context: the tories hate the BBC, and thus the papers owned by murdoch etc and other tory benefactors will be taking this opportunity to try and undermine the BBC as much as possible. Lets not forget that murdoch owns a slice of ITV. The cunt.
The BBC is a direct competitor for Murdoch's market share and thus profit. What more do you need to know ? (Apart from the content and nature of the communications between Jeremy Murdoch, James Hunt, David Brooks and Rebekah Cameron, of course.)
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Message deleted, repost. :sorry:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20405915 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20405915)
:whistle:
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Kim Jon-Un named sexiest man alive (by The Onion) now confirmed by The China People's Daily (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/27/china-kim-jong-un) :lol:
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"Dog eats prospective parliamentary candidate's homework"
http://insidecroydon.com/2012/11/06/ukips-mckenzie-angered-over-anti-gay-comments-on-twitter/ (http://insidecroydon.com/2012/11/06/ukips-mckenzie-angered-over-anti-gay-comments-on-twitter/)
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Liberal Democrat vote collapses in all three by-elections
Now I wonder what might have caused that? :-\
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Kuntz Korner 2012 -
Is this a repeat nomination?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/how-can-the-atos-boss-get-a-bonus-of-1million-while-disabled-people-suffer-8374083.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/how-can-the-atos-boss-get-a-bonus-of-1million-while-disabled-people-suffer-8374083.html)
And - off on a tangent, as her OH is the brains and the money behind Thornbridge Brewery, should one "boycott"* their products under the "guilt by association" rule?
* And by "boycott" I mean simply choose not to buy them on ethical grounds, rather than organize a formal campaign to stop other people buying them.
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Attention Scum!
We know who you are, we know where you live, and we are coming to get you! (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/9719247/Amsterdam-to-create-scum-villages.html)
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Kuntz Korner 2012 -
Is this a repeat nomination?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/how-can-the-atos-boss-get-a-bonus-of-1million-while-disabled-people-suffer-8374083.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/how-can-the-atos-boss-get-a-bonus-of-1million-while-disabled-people-suffer-8374083.html)
And - off on a tangent, as her OH is the brains and the money behind Thornbridge Brewery, should one "boycott"* their products under the "guilt by association" rule?
* And by "boycott" I mean simply choose not to buy them on ethical grounds, rather than organize a formal campaign to stop other people buying them.
Given that thornbridge seem to own every pub in Sheffield now it may be difficult, but I've had similar thoughts .
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Hold on a sec... isn't the money and brains behind Thornbridge This one (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9286233/Billion-pound-scandal-in-welfare-to-work.html)
(no less deserving of the award however)
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Hold on a sec... isn't the money and brains behind Thornbridge This one (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9286233/Billion-pound-scandal-in-welfare-to-work.html)
(no less deserving of the award however)
Yeah - you're right underground .
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Hold on a sec... isn't the money and brains behind Thornbridge This one (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9286233/Billion-pound-scandal-in-welfare-to-work.html)
(no less deserving of the award however)
D'Oh!
:slap:
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So.
The third in line to the throne then.
Any suggestions for names?
Boys
Crimson
Curtis
Kong
SofLeon
Girls
Sparkrangers
"" / <no name>
Zreich
Ofthesouth
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Who gives a shit? :shrug:
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Who gives a shit? :shrug:
GPWM. :-\
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More boys' names:
Cannibal
Creosote
Tubby
A girl's name:
Ofthedamned
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Kuntz Korner 2012 -
Is this a repeat nomination?
This is
http://local.stv.tv/aberdeen/news/204159-donald-trump-launches-attack-on-whisky-firm-over-top-scot-award/ (http://local.stv.tv/aberdeen/news/204159-donald-trump-launches-attack-on-whisky-firm-over-top-scot-award/)
Trump further redefines the word "douchebag"
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Trump to be awarded "Cunt of the Year's life time achiever" award.
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I wonder how his march on Washington's going.
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He probably flew on his own by private jet.
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"Glenfiddich is upset that we created our own single malt whisky using another distillery, which offers far greater products. People at our clubs do not ask for Glenfiddich, and I make a pledge that no Trump property will ever do business with Glenfiddich or William Grant & Sons.
"I hereby call for a boycott on drinking Glenfiddich products because there is no way a result such as this could have been made by the Scottish people."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/05/donald-trump-whisky-award?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/05/donald-trump-whisky-award?CMP=twt_gu)
Treble Balvenies all round!
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I've never bought Glenfiddich before but I may go out and buy a few cases of it now...
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I'm not a fan of Fiddich.
So there's no point in me buying any.
Balvenie, on the other hand…
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So what whisky is Trump's? just so I can avoid it like the plague.
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Hooray! Grant's own Highland Park. I'll drink to that!
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Hooray! Grant's own Highland Park. I'll drink to that!
Yeah?
Didn't know that.
When did that happen?
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2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Grant_%26_Sons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Grant_%26_Sons)
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So what whisky is Trump's? just so I can avoid it like the plague.
Glendronach
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Never tried it, never will.
Shame he didn't opt for calling it Glensyrupfigg
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2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Grant_%26_Sons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Grant_%26_Sons)
Seems it's news to Edrington - http://www.edringtongroup.com/ (http://www.edringtongroup.com/)
Some "joint venture" thingummy?
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I guess so but it doesn't mention it elsewhere... Strange. Never mind, I'm sure Trump will find a way to alienate the Edrington group soon too.
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So what whisky is Trump's? just so I can avoid it like the plague.
Glendronach
The board needs to descend upon the Broadie at some time to "not drink Glendronach" [or their parent, Benriach!]
Personally, I'd not be minded to do that, given the supply of the "Donald Trump's Very Own Special Single Malt Scotch Whisky" is exactly that - a supply for a single purpose, and not a "standard" bottling or offering.
A commercial venture from both parties.
[Especially given the usual "respect" that most distillery operations give each other - there's very little "knocking copy" that goes on in the business]
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Dogs being taught to drive in New Zealand (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20614593) :ohmy:
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He's making friends like nobody's business!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244366/Donald-Trump-attacks-Lord-Sugar-Twitter-calls-bad-businessman.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244366/Donald-Trump-attacks-Lord-Sugar-Twitter-calls-bad-businessman.html)
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What an utter utter cunt.
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Looks to me like a total cunt laughing about an utter cunt calling a cunt a cunt.
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Looks to me like a total cunt laughing about an utter cunt calling a cunt a cunt.
I should really have posted this link here then.....Cunts vs Cunts (http://www.monkeon.co.uk/mobtrumps/)
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Monkey in sheepskin jacket on the loose at Ikea in Toronto (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20667481)
:shrug:
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Fight! Fight! Fight!
Branson offers to wager Willie Walsh £1m over future of Virgin Airlines.
Willie Walsh offers Branson "knee in the groin" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20676667) in return
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Life imitates 'art', coming soon Police Academy 23 : Citizens on Patrol (Again) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20688238)
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Are these people insane?
Have they never watched "The Thing"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20682647 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20682647)
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This is getting to be a bit of a habit, isn't it, Dave?
Cameron "deeply sorry" -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-agents-facilitated-the-murder-of-belfast-solicitor-pat-finucane-during-the-troubles-8411044.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-agents-facilitated-the-murder-of-belfast-solicitor-pat-finucane-during-the-troubles-8411044.html)
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Looks to me like a total cunt laughing about an utter cunt calling a cunt a cunt.
Derek And Clive - This Bloke Came Up to me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTifRi3qDkU#)
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Derek and Clive - Hello Colin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSNpx2Htu-c#)
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The Truth?
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
http://www.kerryseye.com/kids-in-tears-as-priest.html (http://www.kerryseye.com/kids-in-tears-as-priest.html)
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Link posted on the other channel...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=4001107,b=facebook (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=4001107,b=facebook)
Seriously disturbing!
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I have no idea how anyone can cope with a situation like that, fucking heavy. . . .
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DJ Shadow told to head into the shadows Click (http://www.nme.com/news/dj-shadow/67763)
Goes to show how fucked up the music industry is, clueless tossers.
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Zombies!
http://m.smh.com.au/environment/animals/zombie-world-20121215-2bfvs.html
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Zombies!
http://m.smh.com.au/environment/animals/zombie-world-20121215-2bfvs.html (http://m.smh.com.au/environment/animals/zombie-world-20121215-2bfvs.html)
fuuuuuccckkkkkk
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UKIP news -
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/12/mencap-slam-ukip-candidate-who-called-compulsory-abortion-disabled-people (http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/12/mencap-slam-ukip-candidate-who-called-compulsory-abortion-disabled-people)
The document, which was still live as of 3:00pm today and is titled "PERSONAL MANIFESTO OF GEOFFREY CLARK FOR THE ELECTIONS TO GRAVESHAM COUNCIL", contains the "matter for the review body to properly consider" under the section "health care and the NHS":
Other items for review: ceasing all free IVF treatment on the NHS; cutting unecessary waste e.g the destruction of drugs in care homes when residents move on to the next care home or the next world; the pregnancy abortion time limit; compulsory abortion when the foetus is detected as having Downs, Spina Bifida or similar syndrome which, if it is born, could render the child a burden on the state as well as on the family.
Before
Of course, before all this blew up, UKIP had a very different view on Clark. A spokesman told the Gravesend Reporter, at 12:30 today, that:
The comments in Geoff Clark’s personal manifesto regarding abortion do not represent party policy. As in any party, our members have a range of views and opinions which may not always accord with party policy. Geoff makes clear that this is a personal manifesto, not a party document. Geoff is a hard-working local activist who would make an excellent councillor.
After
And it looks like Clark's political career is over, if there was any doubt. UKIP's head of communications for London, Gawain Towler, has confirmed that he will not be standing for UKIP in any future election.
(https://twitter.com/GawainTowler/status/281059659463417856 (https://twitter.com/GawainTowler/status/281059659463417856)
This man will not be standing for UKIP again
)
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Do you reckon they'll call the beach "The Bobby Sands"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20767992 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20767992)
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WH Smith pull off amazing coup!
http://twitpic.com/7af22w (http://twitpic.com/7af22w)
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We've just had a message through from Melbourne.
"Hello everybody. Rest assured, the World hasn't en"
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-olB4-CQAAbXxb.jpg)
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The Mayans never said nuffin.
http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/10/11639788-maya-calendar-workshop-documents-time-beyond-2012?lite (http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/10/11639788-maya-calendar-workshop-documents-time-beyond-2012?lite)
BBC (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fscience-environment-18018343&ei=xnHUULeAMeaN0AXQyYDwDw&usg=AFQjCNEBQxEt30Ffo3K9W0cLZyzA-OTFOw&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k)"The ancient Maya predicted the world would continue, that 7,000 years from now, things would be exactly like this," he said.
"We keep looking for endings. The Maya were looking for a guarantee that nothing would change. It's an entirely different mindset."
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Indeed:
http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2012/12/not-mayan-calendar.html (http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2012/12/not-mayan-calendar.html)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9761543/Connecticut-school-shooting-NRA-chief-calls-for-guns-in-every-school.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9761543/Connecticut-school-shooting-NRA-chief-calls-for-guns-in-every-school.html)
You couldn't make it up
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Other news:
This sort of stuff is heartbreaking.
Your son is seriously ill.
He needs treatment.
You disagree with the doctors who say in order to give him the best chance of survival he must undergo the following treatment.
And you are so firm in your belief you try to stop your son being treated.
Meanwhile, your estranged husband and father to your son disagrees with you and wants the treatment to be started.
Where do you start?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20807984 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20807984)
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Is mother always right?
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Be careful with the veg over xmas...Man overdoses on brussel sprouts (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20805966)
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Other news:
This sort of stuff is heartbreaking.
Your son is seriously ill.
He needs treatment.
You disagree with the doctors who say in order to give him the best chance of survival he must undergo the following treatment.
And you are so firm in your belief you try to stop your son being treated.
Meanwhile, your estranged husband and father to your son disagrees with you and wants the treatment to be started.
Where do you start?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20807984 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20807984)
"survival" has to be offset by quality of life and the expected length of survival. Is it worth putting a child through innumerable nasty surgical procedures and radio/chemotherapy that will make them feel like utter shit if they're only going to live another six months*? Or do you savour the time you do have with them and make it as enjoyable as possible for them rather than being hooked up to tubes pumping chemicals into them that make them feeli like shit. :devangel:
* In general prognosis for brain tumours isn't great with very low median survival lengths.
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Other news:
This sort of stuff is heartbreaking.
Your son is seriously ill.
He needs treatment.
You disagree with the doctors who say in order to give him the best chance of survival he must undergo the following treatment.
And you are so firm in your belief you try to stop your son being treated.
Meanwhile, your estranged husband and father to your son disagrees with you and wants the treatment to be started.
Where do you start?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20807984 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20807984)
"survival" has to be offset by quality of life and the expected length of survival. Is it worth putting a child through innumerable nasty surgical procedures and radio/chemotherapy that will make them feel like utter shit if they're only going to live another six months*? Or do you savour the time you do have with them and make it as enjoyable as possible for them rather than being hooked up to tubes pumping chemicals into them that make them feeli like shit. :devangel:
* In general prognosis for brain tumours isn't great with very low median survival lengths.
In truth, the side effects of Chemo and RT are more than off set by the relief from the cancer symptoms and these days mitigated well by drug suppression. Tumours release all sorts of unpleasant things into the body...
Symptoms and discomfort from the treatment usually lasts 3-4 days, but might provide 3-4 weeks of symptom relief. I would expect "Cyber knife" for the RT, so minimal side effects or burning.
I can sympathise with any parent (anyone, in fact), faced with this.
But...
Cancer treatment has come a long way, even from 10 years ago, life extension and quality of that extension have improved. Unfortunately, stories of the terrors of the treatment live much longer in the imagination of the population...
Listen to the Doctors.
They are not monsters. Most will fight like mother bears to save their patients and when the time comes; to ease the passing.
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Its not a decision I'd ever want to have to make for myself let alone anyone else.
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We've just had a message through from Melbourne.
"Hello everybody. Rest assured, the World hasn't en"
I was actually thinking of posting something like that but completely forgot about it on the day. :P
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Es are good - for PTSD sufferers
http://jop.sagepub.com/content/27/1/28.full.pdf+html (http://jop.sagepub.com/content/27/1/28.full.pdf+html)
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suffer PTSD -> get wighty masted -> alleviates PTSD -> end up at crusty after party -> suffer PTSD
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Dead paedophile was busy adding insult to injury:
[Quite literally]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20797726 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20797726)
In letters they exchanged, released by the National Archives, Savile tells Mrs Thatcher that the patients at the hospital love her - and he does too.
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What.
The.
Fuck?
[Warning - link is to the Dially Mile]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253797/DNA-Sandy-Hook-killer-Adam-Lanza-examined-evil-gene-study-kind-conducted-mass-murderer.html?ito=feeds-newsxml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253797/DNA-Sandy-Hook-killer-Adam-Lanza-examined-evil-gene-study-kind-conducted-mass-murderer.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
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And the first "Darwin Award" nominee of the year goes to -
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/02/showbiz/california-bieber-paparazo-death/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/02/showbiz/california-bieber-paparazo-death/)
A photographer, who thought he spied Bieber sitting in his parked white Ferrari, was struck by oncoming traffic as he walked across a Los Angeles freeway to get back to his car after snapping photos.
An opportune picture of the 18-year-old celebrity can rake in hard currency -- but Bieber was not in the car at the time of the New Year's Day incident.
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Some light relief...so to speak...
http://www.theage.com.au/world/dental-nurse-hits-out-as-court-upholds-decision-to-sack-her-for-being-an-irresistible-attraction-20121224-2bu9t.html (http://www.theage.com.au/world/dental-nurse-hits-out-as-court-upholds-decision-to-sack-her-for-being-an-irresistible-attraction-20121224-2bu9t.html)
Best quote - "if you see a bulge in my pants you'll know your clothes are too tight..." :blink:
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It would be great if this could be adopted, but given the twats in power and the myopic outlook most have that only sees to the next election I doubt it will work.
Test, Learn, Adapt: Developing Public Policy with Randomised Controlled Trials (http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/test-learn-adapt-developing-public-policy-randomised-controlled-trials)
Goldacre has been harping on about this for some time on twitter/blogs/posterous and was on Radio 4 talking about it the other day (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01phhb9).
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Mo fo lands (http://www.gizoogle.net/xfer.php?link=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20897675&sa=U&ei=XLXlUOnKG4Se0QXjwYC4Bw&ved=0CB0QqQIwAA&usg=AFQjCNEYZznTZtexbzOdCZ1Uo5iPQeud7Q)
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"Christ! There's two of 'em" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20915946)
"His understudy, Greg Barrowman, has already stepped in to finish the rest of the show."
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"It's tough to find out who's responsible for the action as the cat doesn't speak." (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20920848)
Because the cat was cool and never said a mumblin' word
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Rail fares minister commutes in £80,000-a-year government car (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/jan/06/rail-fares-minister-commute-car) :wank: :wank: :wank:
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It would be great if this could be adopted, but given the twats in power and the myopic outlook most have that only sees to the next election I doubt it will work.
Test, Learn, Adapt: Developing Public Policy with Randomised Controlled Trials (http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/test-learn-adapt-developing-public-policy-randomised-controlled-trials)
Goldacre has been harping on about this for some time on twitter/blogs/posterous and was on Radio 4 talking about it the other day (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01phhb9).
I remember they tested the ATOS disability benefits system on a small scale. It proved disastrous, with massive amounts of appeals going to court, a large proportion of which won.
So they rolled it out nationally.
To be fair, they did adapt the system - they cut legal aid. :clap2:
(I think we're beyond the help of Ben Goldacre sadly :no: )
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Just on the off chance there's any West Mids-based folk on here who recognize this man -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-20940593 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-20940593)
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Thats one hell of a hangover.
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Heh! Didn't spot that bit.
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pas de ♥ pour la fille dans un certaine Mégastore Checkout desque -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20944909 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20944909)
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Flag-flying protocol in the UK dictates that the Union Flag is flown from government buildings on "flag days" - such as Queen's official birthday, royal births, and the like.
Now that Belfast City Council have decided to honour the tradition of the United Kingdom, what then is the problem with these arseholes in Norn Iron?
If they don't like it, why don't they just fuck off and become members of their own country rather than ours?
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If they don't like it, why don't they just fuck off and become members of their own country rather than ours?
They already are members of their own country, the UK. Are you suggesting we just divest ourselves of troublesome provinces, like Yorkshire for example?
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(http://www.anglersmail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/citizen-smith.jpg)
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Oops!
[I wonder if he also signed the petition to "deport Piers Moron"?]
http://gawker.com/5975361/ceo-of-weapons-training-company-who-threatened-to-start-killing-people-over-gun-control-has-handgun-permit-revoked (http://gawker.com/5975361/ceo-of-weapons-training-company-who-threatened-to-start-killing-people-over-gun-control-has-handgun-permit-revoked)
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Brazilian bikini waxes make crab lice endangered species (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-13/brazilian-bikini-waxes-make-crab-lice-endangered-species-health.html)
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German 'moons' Hells Angels gang, throws a puppy at them and then makes his getaway on......a bulldozer! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10333211) :lol:
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HMV about to call in the administrators (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21021073)
(I love twitter, found this out from following Ed Simons (of The Chemical Brothers) who's tweeting with the hashtag #hmvmemories rather than actually bothering to read the news :))
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Oh no!
Beer to be cut in strength.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-21026451 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-21026451)
Oh hang on, panic over -
"We can confirm that we are in the process of advising customers about the decision to lower the ABV content of John Smith's Extra Smooth from 3.8% to 3.6% on all draught and canned product delivered from February 2013.
"The move to 3.6% ABV is designed to bring John Smith's Extra Smooth in line with competitor smooth ales that already sit at or below this alcoholic strength.
"Extensive research conducted with John Smith's retailers and consumers consistently confirmed that a 0.2% reduction in ABV does not compromise on the taste and quality that has made the brand the UK's most popular ale and we are confident that John Smith's Extra Smooth will continue to lead the ale category going forward."
Hurrah! Quality of nitrofroth not compromised as nation rejoices!
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Ale my arse :furious:
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The latest update on UKB's favourite American multi-billionaire tycoon, property magnate, luxury resort developer, and new-style King Knut*
http://aberdeenvoice.com/2013/01/menie-estate-series-crazy-golf/ (http://aberdeenvoice.com/2013/01/menie-estate-series-crazy-golf/)
* As students of history will of course already know, Knut was trying to prove to a sycophantic court he couldn't control the sea and the tides, not impose his will against them.
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Oh no!
Beer to be cut in strength.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-21026451 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-21026451)
Oh hang on, panic over -
"We can confirm that we are in the process of advising customers about the decision to lower the ABV content of John Smith's Extra Smooth from 3.8% to 3.6% on all draught and canned product delivered from February 2013.
"The move to 3.6% ABV is designed to bring John Smith's Extra Smooth in line with competitor smooth ales that already sit at or below this alcoholic strength.
"Extensive research conducted with John Smith's retailers and consumers consistently confirmed that a 0.2% reduction in ABV does not compromise on the taste and quality that has made the brand the UK's most popular ale and we are confident that John Smith's Extra Smooth will continue to lead the ale category going forward."
Hurrah! Quality of nitrofroth not compromised as nation rejoices!
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Der Grumpmeister and I were in the Byron yestereve, and the great man commented on the non-appearance of Abbeydale "Moonshine" on the bar.
"They've put the price up and are too expensive."
[According to our sources they are not the only customers of said brewery to comment upon this, and alter their order accordingly (i.e. cancel it).]
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So.
Blockbuster have called in the administrators too.
If Deloittte end up thinking the task of rescuing the company is beyond them, will they issue a press release stating, "We haven't a clue what to do."?
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I dunno, something to keep the birds off the veg?
(http://www.driftwooddreaming.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CD-string-bird-scarer3.jpg)
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So.
Blockbuster have called in the administrators too.
If Deloittte end up thinking the task of rescuing the company is beyond them, will they issue a press release stating, "We haven't a clue what to do."?
Would've worked better with right lyrics -
If Deloittte end up thinking the task of rescuing the company is beyond them, will they issue a press release stating, "We just haven't got a clue what to do"?
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Panic in Groby as earth tremor strikes the East Midlands -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21073263 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21073263)
"It lasted at least 20 seconds and some DVDs fell off a shelf in my room."
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Panic in Groby as earth tremor strikes the East Midlands -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21073263 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21073263)
"It lasted at least 20 seconds and some DVDs fell off a shelf in my room."
Mining - or old mines giving up more to the point.. Most of Doncaster and surrounding area is subsiding - except for (interesting factoid alert) Donny Cathedral, that they were not allowed to mine under..
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"Donny Cathedral"?
Do you mean St George's?
(http://www.peterandsusan.co.uk/church/images/Yorkshire_Doncaster_MinsterWEB.jpg)
[A trawl of the internet for that photograph did indeed reveal it's known as "the Minster and Parish Church of St George". But only from 2004, so it doesn't count.* What madness is that?]
* Because I said so, OK?
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And what, exactly, Mister Sky News Editor Man* is a "Brit" supposed to be?
http://news.sky.com/story/1039636/algeria-crisis-10-brits-unaccounted-for (http://news.sky.com/story/1039636/algeria-crisis-10-brits-unaccounted-for)
Algeria Crisis: '10 Brits Unaccounted For'
Word the word you were looking for be "Briton", perchance, rather than the egregiously insulting word "Brit"?
* I'm assuming rampant sexism still exists within the world of 24-hour rolling news broadcasting.
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And what, exactly, Mister Sky News Editor Man* is a "Brit" supposed to be?
http://news.sky.com/story/1039636/algeria-crisis-10-brits-unaccounted-for (http://news.sky.com/story/1039636/algeria-crisis-10-brits-unaccounted-for)
Algeria Crisis: '10 Brits Unaccounted For'
Word the word you were looking for be "Briton", perchance, rather than the egregiously insulting word "Brit"?
* I'm assuming rampant sexism still exists within the world of 24-hour rolling news broadcasting.
Shit a brick, my old company were bidding for a job right net to that place!! Scary stuff.
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Word the word you were looking for be "Briton", perchance, rather than the egregiously insulting word "Brit"?
Would the word you were looking for be "would", perchance? :P
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Word the word you were looking for be "Briton", perchance, rather than the egregiously insulting word "Brit"?
Would the word you were looking for be "would", perchance? :P
I refer the honourable member to "Muphry's Law".
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This one (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408403/) or this one (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091575/)? :P
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This one (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408403/) or this one (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091575/)? :P
Neither.
This one. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law)
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The irony, I didn't even read that as an intentional mis-spelling (damn mind thinking it knows better than my eyes!).
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I must admit I like the phrase "The Iron Law of Nitpicking"
[Though my iniitial comment wasn't - it was a genuine complaint that I find the phrase "Brit" offensive and insulting.
You wouldn't use it for other nationalities, would you - especially not in the context of something as serious and harrowing as this?]
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I must admit I like the phrase "The Iron Law of Nitpicking"
[Though my iniitial comment wasn't - it was a genuine complaint that I find the phrase "Brit" offensive and insulting.
You wouldn't use it for other nationalities, would you - especially not in the context of something as serious and harrowing as this?]
That's weird. This is the first time I've even heard of "Brit" being considered offensive. Maybe it's an English thing?
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I must admit I like the phrase "The Iron Law of Nitpicking"
[Though my iniitial comment wasn't - it was a genuine complaint that I find the phrase "Brit" offensive and insulting.
You wouldn't use it for other nationalities, would you - especially not in the context of something as serious and harrowing as this?]
That's weird. This is the first time I've even heard of "Brit" being considered offensive. Maybe it's an English thing?
Like I said, I found it offensive.
Try replacing the word with "Saffers","Aussies", or "Yanks" in the same sentence and context, and see how it reads to you.
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I must admit I like the phrase "The Iron Law of Nitpicking"
[Though my iniitial comment wasn't - it was a genuine complaint that I find the phrase "Brit" offensive and insulting.
You wouldn't use it for other nationalities, would you - especially not in the context of something as serious and harrowing as this?]
That's weird. This is the first time I've even heard of "Brit" being considered offensive. Maybe it's an English thing?
Like I said, I found it offensive.
Try replacing the word with "Saffers","Aussies", or "Yanks" in the same sentence and context, and see how it reads to you.
The dopey bint* on Manc* news used Brit three times this lunchtime... ;)
Personally I find Brits a bit naff, but not offensive.. Better than cockney wanker or lanky streak of piss that are the normal friendly greetings hurled in my direction..
*additional sarcasm and humour made by using words probably pejorative to women and people from Manchester (just in case you didnt get it...)
** I am being a nob, deliberately.. ;)
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Try replacing the word with "Saffers","Aussies", or "Yanks" in the same sentence and context, and see how it reads to you.
Are you really offended by Brit? I get called Saffer all the time, and had no idea that anyone could conceive it of being Offensive. Likewise Aussie, Kiwi, etc.
Yanks is difference as it can be seen as offensive as it is an abbreviation of Yankee, which refers to the Confederate soldeirs.
It's PC gone mad I tell you.
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Anyway, it's Lard Galore time in Arbroath.
Cholesterol levels are set to skyrocket, as lardmania hits the east coast.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-21079285# (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-21079285#)
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Try replacing the word with "Saffers","Aussies", or "Yanks" in the same sentence and context, and see how it reads to you.
Are you really offended by Brit? I get called Saffer all the time, and had no idea that anyone could conceive it of being Offensive. Likewise Aussie, Kiwi, etc.
Yanks is difference as it can be seen as offensive as it is an abbreviation of Yankee, which refers to the Confederate soldeirs.
It's PC gone mad I tell you.
Like I said - I was offended by it.
It's a diminuitive, and as such I regard its use as a mechanism to belittle people.
[And to marginalize, label, and stereotype people]
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No one we know, I hope?
Bad day, hope they find them safe.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-21101217
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Four climbers lost. Our thoughts and wishes are with their loved ones.
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Only Scum Read The Sun!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4753651/lithuanian-immigrant-youre-a-soft-touch.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4753651/lithuanian-immigrant-youre-a-soft-touch.html)
http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=349956 (http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=349956)
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Her CV says
I am communicative, reliable, honest, self-motivated and hardworking person. I am responsible, punctual and dutiful. Creative, open to new ideas and ready to embrace new experiences.
I have issues with this statement. Ironically, she's just made herself less employable, and therefore, more likely to carry on sponging from the state.
Roll on the day when her kid goes to school.
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Like I said - I was offended by it.
It's a diminuitive, and as such I regard its use as a mechanism to belittle people.
[And to marginalize, label, and stereotype people]
Maybe you should toughen up buttercup :)
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Like I said - I was offended by it.
It's a diminuitive, and as such I regard its use as a mechanism to belittle people.
[And to marginalize, label, and stereotype people]
Maybe you should toughen up buttercup :)
Just like the "Pakis" should?
Because the more I have thought about this, the more I am really annoyed.
It's gross pig-ignorance, and insulting to the fact there's people who've lost loved ones and friends here, and a news source can't even pay them the courtesy of referring to them with dignity on their passing.
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Be warned there are some offensive music awards coming up soon.
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Because the more I have thought about this, the more I am really annoyed.
Do something about it? Contact the Sky news desk and let them know?
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Be warned there are some offensive music awards coming up soon.
BRIT in this case actually stands for "Boring Relatively Indie-ish Toss" awards.
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Because the more I have thought about this, the more I am really annoyed.
Do something about it? Contact the Sky news desk and let them know?
Have done.
However, in the grand scheme of things I think there are more important things to worry about or upon which to devote my not inconsiderable campaigning influence.
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Be warned there are some offensive music awards coming up soon.
The MOBOs?
You daft racist.
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Can't think of anything that can possibly go wrong here -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html)
A Harvard professor is looking for an "adventurous" woman to give birth to a baby Neanderthal.
As well as the ethical concerns of creating a neo-Neanderthal, scientists believe the resultant baby could lack immunity to modern diseases, and may not survive.
There are further concerns that the process might lead to deformities, and there are also obvious risks to the surrogate mother.
Bioethicist Bernard Rollin of Colorado State University has voiced his uncertainty over how a Neanderthal would fit into the modern world.
He said: “I don’t think it’s fair to put people... into a circumstance where they are going to be mocked and possibly feared.”
And Philippa Taylor of the Christian Medical Fellowship said: “It is hard to know where to begin with the ethical and safety concerns.”
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Can't think of anything that can possibly go wrong here -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html)
A Harvard professor is looking for an "adventurous" woman to give birth to a baby Neanderthal.
Sound more controversial than knee pads
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He should talk to the Tory party, they've been at it for some time.
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Wayne Rooney's mum? She's got experience of one already.
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He should talk to the Tory party, they've been at it for some time.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Professor Church believes Neanderthals were highly intelligent, perhaps even more intelligent than humans.
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Wayne Rooney's mum? She's got experience of one already.
Is that why he likes Granny's?
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He should talk to the Tory party, they've been at it for some time.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Professor Church believes Neanderthals were highly intelligent, perhaps even more intelligent than humans.
So. Would use Chrome or Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer?
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The Daily Telegraph decides to chase the Daily Mail demographic -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9811275/You-never-catch-me-outsource-work-to-China.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9811275/You-never-catch-me-outsource-work-to-China.html)
You never catch me outsource work to China
US software writer pay China person do job for him. Trusty UK journalist not like that
[Carries on for a whole page in much the same "hilarious" vein.]
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Another non-story.
As usual the "media" twist, chop and change what the scientist plans to do i.e. nothing (http://news.msn.com/science-technology/scientist-im-not-seeking-a-mom-for-a-neanderthal).
Can't think of anything that can possibly go wrong here -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html)
A Harvard professor is looking for an "adventurous" woman to give birth to a baby Neanderthal.
As well as the ethical concerns of creating a neo-Neanderthal, scientists believe the resultant baby could lack immunity to modern diseases, and may not survive.
There are further concerns that the process might lead to deformities, and there are also obvious risks to the surrogate mother.
Bioethicist Bernard Rollin of Colorado State University has voiced his uncertainty over how a Neanderthal would fit into the modern world.
He said: “I don’t think it’s fair to put people... into a circumstance where they are going to be mocked and possibly feared.”
And Philippa Taylor of the Christian Medical Fellowship said: “It is hard to know where to begin with the ethical and safety concerns.”
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21141244 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21141244)
"The fire raged for five days..." :o
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He should talk to the Tory party, they've been at it for some time.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Professor Church believes Neanderthals were highly intelligent, perhaps even more intelligent than humans.
So. Would use Chrome or Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer?
Not sure, but probably smart enough to use quotations properly? :)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21141244 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21141244)
"The fire raged for five days..." :o
This is a better headline tho' -
Residents grated after cheesy tunnel meltdown (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/strange-but-true/news/article.cfm?c_id=500835&objectid=10860885&ref=rss)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21141244 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21141244)
"The fire raged for five days..." :o
That'd make some fondue.
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Another non-story.
As usual the "media" twist, chop and change what the scientist plans to do i.e. nothing (http://news.msn.com/science-technology/scientist-im-not-seeking-a-mom-for-a-neanderthal).
Can't think of anything that can possibly go wrong here -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/palaeolithic-park-harvard-professor-seeks-adventurous-woman-to-give-birth-to-baby-neanderthal-8460273.html)
A Harvard professor is looking for an "adventurous" woman to give birth to a baby Neanderthal.
As well as the ethical concerns of creating a neo-Neanderthal, scientists believe the resultant baby could lack immunity to modern diseases, and may not survive.
There are further concerns that the process might lead to deformities, and there are also obvious risks to the surrogate mother.
Bioethicist Bernard Rollin of Colorado State University has voiced his uncertainty over how a Neanderthal would fit into the modern world.
He said: “I don’t think it’s fair to put people... into a circumstance where they are going to be mocked and possibly feared.”
And Philippa Taylor of the Christian Medical Fellowship said: “It is hard to know where to begin with the ethical and safety concerns.”
Cheers - thanks for the "facts" there - what a shame they do destroy the original story, eh?
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Often the way when SCIENCE gets translated by the media unfortunately.
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Dolphin freed from net by diver (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21176914) Wow! :o :clap2:
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Lib Dems delay electoral boundry redefinitions until after 2015 election (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21235169) (they could have left Tories with 20 additional seats).
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Article on Amazons record revenues...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/30/amazon-christmas-record-sales-profits (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/30/amazon-christmas-record-sales-profits)
But really interesting reading the discussion below the article - regarding how amazon make wafer thin profits - and some see this as meaning the consumer benefits in some quasi negation of the tax issue.. read on its good...
I know the current narrative here is that Amazon is evil. However consider this just posted on slate.com:
Amazon kept up its streak of being awesome this afternoon by announcing a 45 percent year-on-year decline in profits measuring Q4 2012 against Q4 2011. Not because sales went down, mind you. They're up. Revenue is up. The company's razor-thin profit margins just got even thinner, and in total the company lost $39 million in 2012.
The company's shares are down a bit today, but the company's stock is taking a much less catastrophic plunge in already-meager profits than Apple, whose stock plunged simply because its Q4 profits increased at an unexpectedly slow rate. That's because Amazon, as best I can tell, is a charitable organization being run by elements of the investment community for the benefit of consumers. The shareholders put up the equity, and instead of owning a claim on a steady stream of fat profits, they get a claim on a mighty engine of consumer surplus. Amazon sells things to people at prices that seem impossible because it actually is impossible to make money that way. And the competitive pressure of needing to square off against Amazon cuts profit margins at other companies, thus benefiting people who don't even buy anything from Amazon.
It's a truly remarkable American success story. But if you own a competing firm, you should be terrified. Competition is always scary, but competition against a juggernaut that seems to have permission from its shareholders to not turn any profits is really frightening.
Amazon kept up its streak of being awesome this afternoon by announcing a 45 percent year-on-year decline in profits measuring Q4 2012 against Q4 2011. Not because sales went down, mind you. They're up. Revenue is up. The company's razor-thin profit margins just got even thinner, and in total the company lost $39 million in 2012.
Amazon doesn't pay much tax for the same reason the Guardian doesn't pay any. They very simply don't make very much money.
Competition is always scary, but competition against a juggernaut that seems to have permission from its shareholders to not turn any profits is really frightening.
Which is why the likes of John Lewis are keen to find anyway they can to stop them, they simply can't function on such small margins. Quite amusing the so many on the 'left' vilify Amazon as an evil corporation when the people who gain the most from them are actually their customers.
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FAO Magpie - look away now.
Just waiting a minute until that happens…
OK here we go.
What we all already knew.
Cats. Evil. Known fact. 100% true.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
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I for one, am very happy about this:
No dump! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-21253673)
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What we all already knew.
Cats. Evil. Known fact. 100% true.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21236690)
:o Cats doing what they evolved to do! The cheeky little fuckers. :furious:
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I've got a big problem with cats.
What is the point of having them as "pets" ? I'm against the whole idea of pets as well TBH, but why spend money on feeding the fuckers and keeping them alive so they can go and kill loads of birds and other wildlife ?
Completely fucking pointless and counter productive
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Obviously, we all know animals and humans don't have anything to give each other. Humans clearly don't get any pleasure out of keeping pets at all, so why should we keep them alive? We also know that nothing else in the countryside kills loads of birds and other wildlife.
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The difference is that humans make a choice to buy and keep something alive rather than something which goes on without direct human intervention
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Traditionally they were domesticated and used for pest control on farms. The Egyptians started this off quite some time ago and revered cats to the extent that they mummified some to keep them company in the after-life.
Besides, the internet is powered by cats (http://www.reddit.com/r/cats).
Would you like to know how to suck eggs too?
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Another thing, why do humans insist on giving birth to and keeping alive and spending loads of money on children when they indirectly go out and slaughter loads of livestock and whose actions will indirectly destroy habitat and push species towards extinction and have a far greater impact than domesticated animals do?
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:lol:
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That is funny ;D
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We've got 2 cats, surrounded by gardens, a neighbour with more bird-feeders than sense and trees and hedges all around.
In 5 years, we've had one mouse bought in. Oh, and a dragonfly.
We just keep our cats in at night, makes it much harder for them to hunt.
As to why... they reduce the risk of a heart attack. And they're kayoooooooooooooooot :wub:
;)
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Dolphin freed from net by diver (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21176914) Wow! :o :clap2:
However, the real story is more sinister:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/dolphin-faked-entanglement-to-meet-hot-diver-2013012857516 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/dolphin-faked-entanglement-to-meet-hot-diver-2013012857516)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21254718 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21254718)
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Fuck me, how backwards thinking are Tories to elect this idiot to the Science Committee? (http://geekmanifesto.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/the-geek-manifesto-on-new-science-select-committee-member-david-tredinnick/)
:no: :wall:
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What a fucking shambles:
http://www.independent.co.uk/money/tax/jackpot-bookies-avoid-1bn-tax-8476143.html
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This is comedy gold, could be from Brass Eye...
"They noticed something on the road and, at first, they thought it was a traffic cone, but he was wearing red trousers," he said.
He said rumours that he had been abducted and that an insult had been carved on his head were speculation.
They went to the local garda station and they got him tea and biscuits. He gobbled up the biscuits as he was ravenous so they got him some curry chips.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21291356 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21291356)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21295465 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21295465)
My god this is a thorny issue. On the one hand people twine on endlessly about jobs and how it would be benficial for West Cumbria, and it would, but it's a National Park (the best one 8)) and they should be sacred shouldn't they? What P's me off about it is that Cumbria's considered good for nowt other than a nuclear waste dump while the rest of the country gets a 36 billion pound train-set. The sooner the government realises that National Parks and other beautiful places are a massive part of what keeps this country sane and starts facilitating proper sustainable investment in them the better :spank:
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<Guffaw!>
Serves you right, you tosser -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21292873 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21292873)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65657000/jpg/_65657252_station.jpg)
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Romance.
Not dead.
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10201364.Marriage_proposal_on_giant_billboards_in_Charlton_Asda_car_park/?ref=twtrec (http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10201364.Marriage_proposal_on_giant_billboards_in_Charlton_Asda_car_park/?ref=twtrec)
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This is a superb article. Its about a film, about economics - but read it, its eye opening and entertaining...
http://m.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/feb/02/inequality-for-all-us-economy-robert-reich
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That film sounds well worth watching.
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"Normal for Norfolk"?
Nah.
This is Suffolk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2273150/Rant-woman-Suffolk-students-Spain-Nigeria-Ipswich-Hospital.html#axzz2JwxPYx7C (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2273150/Rant-woman-Suffolk-students-Spain-Nigeria-Ipswich-Hospital.html#axzz2JwxPYx7C)
(warning Dially Mile link.)
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I'm loving the Richard III news. Ace!
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I'm loving the Richard III news. Ace!
Queen Elizabeth II issued with £789.432 fine from Leicester City Council.
(http://freethoughtblogs.com/tokenskeptic/files/2013/02/carpark-sign-joke-about-Richard-III-being-buried.jpeg)
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Brilliant! When I saw Andy's 'loving the Richard III news' post all I could think of was the cockney rhyming slang 'richard' until I googled it and read the news story. Living in the States now, this was the first I'd heard about it. hehe, that made my evening. whatever next.
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oh, and the 'winter of disco tent' joke over in Only Joking makes a bit more sense to me now =)
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http://www.theage.com.au/tv/Documentary/Then-The-Wind-Changed-4311801.html (http://www.theage.com.au/tv/Documentary/Then-The-Wind-Changed-4311801.html)
Four years ago today. Forty plus degree days here are always just a little scary now.
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So, was today not complete humiliation for Gove? No external events, no extenuating circumstances, no precipitating crisis, just utter failure.
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Shows the blind arrogance of the fool... Imposing a flawed system on everyone to fit is misguided views.. Then having to back track when his own party/mps/select committee tell him it won't work and having the gall to say its listening to feedback. He SHOULD have consulted on this first before going off not half cocked - not cocked!
I thought this govt was benign at first, but it seems they are encouraging the wholesale outsourcing of everything bit by bit - and no one seems to be noticing... Prisons, probation, parts of the Police, pars of the Nhs.. What a mess.
Bedroom tax, it looks like the overall cost will be higher, due to a shortage of smaller council properties, people may be forced to rent from the private sector - under housing benefit, costing more than they paid for thier council property before.. Bonkers..
Rant over...
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The really worrying thing about the litany of fuck ups made by Dave et al is that the opposition leader is so useless that Labour aren't 20+ points ahead. Not only the blatant privatisation of everything but the U-turns, scandal, infighting, economic ineptitude, downright shambles on everything........
Seriously, how much more ammunition do you need? It's pathetic.
The gay marriage fiasco only served to prove the point that the Tories being divided is nothing to cheer about. It's another nail in Dave's coffin that over half his party voted against him but this isn't a good thing. I can see a vote of no confidence before too long and you know who stands to take over if that happens. If so I have every faith in the stupidity of the British public to vote the loveable buffoon nasty scheming Tory cunt in as our next Prime Minister ("ooh but wasn't he great at the Olympics").
And then we're really fucked.
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The really worrying thing about the litany of fuck ups made by Dave et al is that the opposition leader is so useless that Labour aren't 20+ points ahead. Not only the blatant privatisation of everything but the U-turns, scandal, infighting, economic ineptitude, downright shambles on everything........
Seriously, how much more ammunition do you need? It's pathetic.
The gay marriage fiasco only served to prove the point that the Tories being divided is nothing to cheer about. It's another nail in Dave's coffin that over half his party voted against him but this isn't a good thing. I can see a vote of no confidence before too long and you know who stands to take over if that happens. If so I have every faith in the stupidity of the British public to vote the loveable buffoon nasty scheming Tory cunt in as our next Prime Minister ("ooh but wasn't he great at the Olympics").
And then we're really fucked.
But Michael Gove wasn't involved with the Olympics…
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The really worrying thing about the litany of fuck ups made by Dave et al is that the opposition leader is so useless that Labour aren't 20+ points ahead. Not only the blatant privatisation of everything but the U-turns, scandal, infighting, economic ineptitude, downright shambles on everything........
Seriously, how much more ammunition do you need? It's pathetic.
The gay marriage fiasco only served to prove the point that the Tories being divided is nothing to cheer about. It's another nail in Dave's coffin that over half his party voted against him but this isn't a good thing. I can see a vote of no confidence before too long and you know who stands to take over if that happens. If so I have every faith in the stupidity of the British public to vote the loveable buffoon nasty scheming Tory cunt in as our next Prime Minister ("ooh but wasn't he great at the Olympics").
And then we're really fucked.
This might interest you...
http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/08/ed-miliband-obama-hollande-choice
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And as the Pope resigns the College of Cardinals announce they're buying him clock that goes backwards as a retirement gift…
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So. Martine McCutcheon then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21429928 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21429928)
Perhaps a personal tax/financial accountant out there could explain to me how one ends up in the situation where one has to petition for one's own bankruptcy, where the revenoo is the biggest creditor?
Surely you speak to your financial advisor type-people to ensure your tax commitments get paid currently when they are due, and you put money aside from your income to meet that liability when it becomes due?
It would appear someone else who does this for a living seems to be thinking along the same lines as my rather simplistic analysis -
Ed Thomas, insolvency practitioner at accountancy firm Mazars told Credit Today it was the celebrity's responsibility to ensure their financial affairs are up-to-date.
"Without knowing the background to this matter, one should not point the finger, but generally we are seeing several celebrities failing in their obligation to ensure that their financial affairs are dealt with properly.
"There is no doubt that they pay a lot of money to people who claim to be managing their affairs professionally.
He added that HMRC will give several warnings and opportunities to settle any liabilities before taking action.
"Therefore, any abrogation by the celebrity of their responsibility to deal with income tax and other debt issues, is no real defence," he said.
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Zombie Attack! Dead bodies are rising from their graves (http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/02/hackers_break_into_montana_tv.html) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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So. Martine McCutcheon then.
I think it's a case of being deluded and believing in your own talent. For a few years you are flavour of the moth, the money is rolling in, and you are living the life. Then you get drunk and throw up on Mick Hucknall (for which you should get fortunes IMHO) the bubble bursts, everyone is awakened to the fact that you are a talentless hag, the work dries up, but you still live the lifestyle believing that "something will come up", but nothing does, so you find yourself up a certain creek financially, and sorely lacking a critical piece of paddling equipment.
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flavour of the moth
is it like chicken?
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'kinnel!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21455453 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21455453)
"South African police say a 26-year-old man has been arrested in at the home of Oscar Pistorius in connection with the fatal shooting of his girlfriend"
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Pope placed on gardening leave after accepting lucrative offer to join Islam (http://newsthump.com/2013/02/11/pope-placed-on-gardening-leave-after-accepting-lucrative-offer-to-join-islam/)
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'kinnel!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21455453 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21455453)
"South African police say a 26-year-old man has been arrested in at the home of Oscar Pistorius in connection with the fatal shooting of his girlfriend"
He hasn't got a leg to stand on.
Sorry.
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flavour of the moth
is it like chicken?
Only sparrow moths.
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Crikey!
'Chubby Checker sues Hewlett-Packard over app to measure penis size'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/feb/14/chubby-checker-sues-hewlett-packard (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/feb/14/chubby-checker-sues-hewlett-packard)
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Some forthright advice for Madonna -
http://naijamayor.com/15-year-old-african-4-56/ (http://naijamayor.com/15-year-old-african-4-56/)
“Yes, it’s true, I told Madonna to go f*** herself. Do you want to know why?” Dakarai asked. “It’s the same thing every time with these snobby rich Americans. Every once in a while they come to show us their support for the so-called eradication of poverty by adopting a child from a starving family, but they actually do more harm than good. Transracial international adoptions are part of the white savior industrial complex,” Dakarai explained.
And UKB's second favourite international pop sensation philanthropist doesn't escape censure either.
The 15-year-old also stated that he would say the same thing to any one of those American or European “faux humanitarian posers”, except for Bono, whom he said he would also kick in the groin.
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Disappointed Gordon "Mr" Sting didn't get a mention there.
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I though about adding that, but didn't want to deny anyone else the glory.
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I'm resisting reposting the mission to space/bottom of the sea cartoons, but only just.
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In the comments section it seems it came from here, and some are believing it
http://www.theglobaledition.com/4-year-old-african-kid-tells-madonna-to-go-fuck-herself/ (http://www.theglobaledition.com/4-year-old-african-kid-tells-madonna-to-go-fuck-herself/)
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Very erudite for a 4 year old. :-\
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I'm resisting reposting the mission to space/bottom of the sea cartoons, but only just.
Oh go on.
You know you want to.
[And if you don't it's almost a certainty that I will!]
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Very erudite for a 4 year old. :-\
Its a spoof news site, unless a cow has actually resigned as India's most holy animal.
I think theglobaledition.com is a spinoff of The Daily Show Global Edition - the satirical Jon Stewart news thing.
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And here was me thinking the pope really had converted to islam!
I'm just amazed that people are drawn in by stuff like that, its like some people don't actually pay attention to what they are reading, if they'd actually clocked the reportage stating it was a 4 year old it should have rung some huge alarm bells.
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Very erudite for a 4 year old. :-\
Its a spoof news site, unless a cow has actually resigned as India's most holy animal.
HOLY COW BATMAN!!!!
Is the whole Horse meat saga an Indian plot to save the holy cow?
Is Pope Benedict actually an illicit meat trader on the sly, slipping away to avoid the scandal?
Does Joker realise Penguin's coating is only "Chocolate flavoured"?
Find out in the next thrilling episode...
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Roses are red.
Violets are glorious.
Buit please do not sneak
Upon Oscar Pistorius
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Roses are red.
Violets are glorious.
Buit please do not sneak
Upon Oscar Pistorius
What a leg-end..
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Pistorious has copied the plot of a Columbo episode. Didn't work then either.
And if findus are making their beef lasagne from horsemeat, what the hell is that crap that slurries out of their crispy pancakes and burns peoples tongues? (Thank god i'm a veggie)
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Some perspective on the risks of 'contaminated' meat (http://understandinguncertainty.org/whats-more-dangerous-bute-or-burger).
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-uk-sells-arms-to-sri-lankas-brutal-regime-8498768.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-uk-sells-arms-to-sri-lankas-brutal-regime-8498768.html)
:no:
(Mark Thomas's "As used on the famous Nelson Mandella" is a very insightful read on this area, naively thought things might have improved since then, more fool me).
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Women! Know your place -
DO NOT TREAT YOUR WOMB LIKE A CLOWN CAR!
Be told!
http://metro.co.uk/2013/02/18/mother-of-11-gets-six-bed-custom-built-mansion-from-council-3502945/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/02/18/mother-of-11-gets-six-bed-custom-built-mansion-from-council-3502945/)
Neighbours in Churchtown, near Gloucester, have reacted with anger to Tewkesbury borough council’s decision to build her a new home.
‘It’s a complete disgrace. She’s got way too many kids as it is. She treats her womb like a clown car,’ one said.
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Aaaargh!
I just despair.
These are the questions the jury put to the judge in the Vicky Price case.
Now. Before either anyone trained in law attempts to answer them, or follow the link to the story, how many of the others can you answer without needing legal guidance?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9882943/Vicky-Pryce-jurors-given-further-directions-by-judge-in-speeding-points-case.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9882943/Vicky-Pryce-jurors-given-further-directions-by-judge-in-speeding-points-case.html)
I reckon I can answer 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.
Q1. You have defined the defence of marital coercion on page 5 of the jury bundle and also explained what does not fall within the definition by way of examples. Please expand on the definition, provide examples of what may fall within the defence, specifically 'will was overborne' and does the defence require violence or physical threat?
Q2. In the scenario that the defendant may be guilty but there may not be enough evidence provided by the prosecution at the material time when she signed the notice of intent to prosecute to feel sure beyond reasonable doubt, what should the verdict be, not guilty or unable or not safe to bring a verdict?
Q3. If there is debatable evidence supporting the prosecution case can inferences be drawn to arrive at a verdict? If so can inferences/speculation be drawn on the full evidence or only where you have directed us to do so?
Q4. Can you define what is reasonable doubt?
Q5. Can a juror come to a verdict based on a reason that was not presented in court and has no facts or evidence to support it?
Q6. Can we infer anything from the fact that the defence didn't bring witnesses from the time of the offence, such as the au pair or neighbours?
Q7. Does the defendant have an obligation to present a defence?
Q8. Can we speculate about the events at the time Miss Pryce sent the form or what was in her mind when she sent the form?
Q9. The jury is considering the facts provided but is continuing to ask the questions raised by the police. Given that the case has come to court without answers to these questions please advise on which facts in the bundle the jury should count on to determine a not guilty or guilty verdict
Q10. "Would religious conviction be a good enough reason for a wife feeling she had no choice i.e. she promised to obey her husband in her wedding vows, he ordered her to do something and she felt she had to obey?
(And a blinding response to 4, btw, your honour!)
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Do you also think that they touched a raw nerve when they sent the questions in?
Mr Justice Sweeney went on: “I want to repeat the absolutely vital importance of your following my directions of law to the letter and the fact that it is an equally important part of each of your individual duties to ensure that all of you do follow my directions of law to the letter.
“Without doing so, you are simply not in a position to reach a true verdict according to the evidence one way or the other.
“It is essential that each of you ensure that my directions of law are faithfully applied by all of you. If, for whatever reason, any one or more of you feel you do not understand my directions, then it would be wholly wrong to reach a verdict one way or the other.
“Equally, the duty of all of you is to ensure that no one of your number does reach a conclusion one way or another unless they are confident they are able to understand and follow to the letter my directions. It does come in some cases that jurors are simply not able to agree in sufficient numbers on the verdict.
“If, after further consideration, you find yourselves in a position where you are simply not able to agree, then you must of course have the courage to say so. I hope all that is clear.”
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Still going strong at 91 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-21519917) :no:
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Do you think the second half of this news story might just have been hacked into?
http://www.kinston.com/news/local/column-o-j-simpson-offers-olympic-murder-suspect-some-advice-1.99183 (http://www.kinston.com/news/local/column-o-j-simpson-offers-olympic-murder-suspect-some-advice-1.99183)
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Participate in scientific research... One line or two? (http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/wanted-students-to-take-cocaine--university-asks-for-volunteers-to-take-drugs-for-study-8506701.html)
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Straight outta Crompton… (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-21586453)
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Hair today, gone tomorrow (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21498878) :???:
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Trouble Brewing?
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=33650 (http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=33650)
This, however, is a telling statement, and is one that had slipped past me:
Following the Government’s abolition of Standards for England in 2012 and changes to the Code of Conduct regime the options available to the Council when a breach of the Code of Conduct is found have been limited. There is no longer the ability to suspend Councillors. The Council has never been able to disqualify Councillors in response to Code of Conduct complaints.
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Forward thinking from Yahoo (who?):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21588760 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21588760)
As someone who now works from home generally 4 out of 5 days a week ( :2thumbsup: ) I completely agree with the last statement.
But he says it is "equally ridiculous" to feel you have to be at the office every day. He recommends a bit of both.
"A large corporation saying you can't work at home, especially an IT based company, seems counter-productive. You have to treat people as grown-ups."
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Especially handy if you can build a nursery in your office (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/marissa-mayer-yahoo-ceo-telecommuting-nursery) once you get there.
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Forward thinking from Yahoo (who?):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21588760 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21588760)
As someone who now works from home generally 4 out of 5 days a week ( :2thumbsup: ) I completely agree with the last statement.
But he says it is "equally ridiculous" to feel you have to be at the office every day. He recommends a bit of both.
"A large corporation saying you can't work at home, especially an IT based company, seems counter-productive. You have to treat people as grown-ups."
Branson disagrees with her.
Ergo, I am on her side.
(The Ad Hominem approach to rational debate - it'll never let you down!)
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Bhang bhang (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/27/marijuana-cannon-us-border-seized-mexico)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/9896815/Ben-Nevis-climber-dies-after-rescue-rope-cut-before-he-could-be-saved.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/9896815/Ben-Nevis-climber-dies-after-rescue-rope-cut-before-he-could-be-saved.html)
A bad day.
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How much is Twitter really worth?
http://m.wsj.com/articles/a/SB10001424127887323384604578328303487784818?mg=reno64-wsj (http://m.wsj.com/articles/a/SB10001424127887323384604578328303487784818?mg=reno64-wsj)
Interesting.
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How much is Twitter really worth?
'Cause economists are brilliant are forecasting beyond the available data!
Rat brains connected over the internet (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/28/brains-rats-connected-share-information) :???:
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Point being this was someone using the available data and sensible assumptions rather than the usual bullshit. Hence "interesting".
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Bradley Manning finally has a day in court (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/28/us-usa-wikileaks-manning-idUSBRE91R0T720130228)
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I am the egg-man…
"At first I thought it was a dead whale so I threw a stone at it and it woke up." (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-21647421)
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130303172640.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130303172640.htm)
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Batman to the rescue (http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/local/batman-hands-wanted-man-in-to-police-station-in-bradford-1-5466385) :lol:
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Getting round Heisenbergs Uncertainty Principle (http://www.rochester.edu/news/show.php?id=5692)
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I might need to look at that again. To see if I can both read it and understand it at the same time.
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Batman to the rescue (http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/local/batman-hands-wanted-man-in-to-police-station-in-bradford-1-5466385) :lol:
Just mates (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-21668307)
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Watch the unveiling here! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-21672137)
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there was a bit of a follow up to this on Radio 4 earlier (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r0gpf)
I'm looking forward to see how it pans out (and hope that Sloper gets involved)
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/buckfast-monks-take-strathclyde-police-1725907 (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/buckfast-monks-take-strathclyde-police-1725907)
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Holding out for a zero
UK Eurovision entry
United Kingdom: Bonnie Tyler 'Believe in Me' - Eurovision Song Contest 2013 - BBC One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqXk_FRw62Q#ws)
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Oh dear (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21709917) :no:
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European Union Votes could be held in secret (http://unlockdemocracy.org.uk/pages/1162) :no:
So far one of my MEPs has responded that they will be voting against this.
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Ditto.
So far, one of my MEPs has responded to my email from Friday saying they are opposing this -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_and_the_Humber_(European_Parliament_constituency) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_and_the_Humber_(European_Parliament_constituency))
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Huhne and Pryce sent to prison:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/chris-huhne-and-vicky-pryce-both-jailed-for-eight-months-for-perverting-course-of-justice-in-speeding-points-scam-as-couple-are-reunited-for-the-final-act-of-their-tragic-family-drama-8529546.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/chris-huhne-and-vicky-pryce-both-jailed-for-eight-months-for-perverting-course-of-justice-in-speeding-points-scam-as-couple-are-reunited-for-the-final-act-of-their-tragic-family-drama-8529546.html)
And Marina Hyde on how it could all have been avoided (really good as ever).........
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/08/vicky-pryce-chris-huhne-never-talk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/08/vicky-pryce-chris-huhne-never-talk)
Have only read a bit of the email exchange between Pryce and the Sunday Times editor but it's pretty shocking. Huhne is obviously a knob and Pryce let anger and retribution make her behave like a teenager with no thought of the consequences of her actions. They must both feel fucking stupid now.
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Justice for a couple of thoroughly unpleasant people.
Should make them share a cell. I think only one would come out alive.
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Huhne and Pryce sent to prison:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/chris-huhne-and-vicky-pryce-both-jailed-for-eight-months-for-perverting-course-of-justice-in-speeding-points-scam-as-couple-are-reunited-for-the-final-act-of-their-tragic-family-drama-8529546.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/chris-huhne-and-vicky-pryce-both-jailed-for-eight-months-for-perverting-course-of-justice-in-speeding-points-scam-as-couple-are-reunited-for-the-final-act-of-their-tragic-family-drama-8529546.html)
I hear Vicky Pryce has joined the prison football team... They needed a good penalty taker
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European Parliaments response to Daily Express' sensationalism that "creating a website informing young citizens and future voters of their rights is now to be considered propaganda." (http://www.europarl.org.uk/view/en/media/Euromyths/education.html) :lol:
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Boxer Curtis Woodhouse deals with Twitter Troll by paying him a visit (http://storify.com/campbellwpaul/boxer-curtis-woodhouse-deals-with-twitter-troll) :lol:
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Love John Prescott's Tweet in all that. Genius.
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You thick fucking twat! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636)
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That's funny.
This isn't though...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21785611 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21785611)
How Cameron has the cheek to......oh yeah, sorry.
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"It's all the fault of the Jews…"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636)
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"It's all the fault of the Jews…"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636)
I presume you really mean't to post something about this story... http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/14/labour-suspends-muslim-peer-lord-ahmed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/14/labour-suspends-muslim-peer-lord-ahmed)
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"It's all the fault of the Jews…"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636)
I presume you really mean't to post something about this story... http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/14/labour-suspends-muslim-peer-lord-ahmed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/14/labour-suspends-muslim-peer-lord-ahmed)
OK, it's a fair cop guv, I'll come quietly.
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/there-will-be-blood-the-us-right-bites-back-20130315-2g5x2.html (http://www.theage.com.au/world/there-will-be-blood-the-us-right-bites-back-20130315-2g5x2.html)
Of course the irony in the name of the venue will have been lost on the participants...... :whistle:
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Instead, prime speaking time was doled out to yesterday's heroes and figures associated with the far right; people like Senator Ted Cruz, who recently, baselessly accused the new Secretary of Defence of taking payola from North Korea, as well as Donald Trump, Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney.
If ever there was a perfect target for a nuclear strike.......
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Parliament scrapper strikes again! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21800097)
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16,734,509.4%?
Jesus fucking Christ!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu)
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16,734,509.4%?
Jesus fucking Christ!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu)
No, the financial sector in the UK needs no regulation.
Dave Camercunt says they're all responsible, respectable people of good birth, from the finest schools and far beyond the reproach of us plebs.
Just like him.
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16,734,509.4%?
Jesus fucking Christ!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu)
No, the financial sector in the UK needs no regulation.
Dave Camercunt says they're all responsible, respectable people of good birth, from the finest schools and far beyond the reproach of us plebs.
Just like him.
Indeed. Whyohwhyohwhy can't they be more like the "not in need of legislation able to regulate themselves" members of the Fourth Estate?
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For some more detail from the article - that was for an £80 loan, with £111 to be paid back 10 days later.
A big issue with the payday lenders is that its kind of like a giant ponzi scheme. People keep on borrowing to pay off the last loan and so on and so on... each lender (apart from the last one if they dont pay) benefits in the charges and interest.. Like all Ponzi's it will inevitably fail at some point - which will probably leave a hole in the finance sector - and more importantly leave a large number of people in debt/penniless...
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16,734,509.4%?
Jesus fucking Christ!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/mar/16/payday-lender?CMP=twt_gu)
No, the financial sector in the UK needs no regulation.
Dave Camercunt says they're all responsible, respectable people of good birth, from the finest schools and far beyond the reproach of us plebs.
Just like him.
Adrian Beecroft, a venture capitalist who has given £593,000 to the Conservatives since Mr Cameron became leader in 2005, recommended companies be allowed to sack unproductive workers at will. The businessman, whose interests include payday loans company Wonga.com, argued that "coasting" workers inhibit economic growth and deter employers from recruiting.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-wanted-to-wave-through-donors-policy-to-destroy-rights-of-workers-7593585.html)
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"A bit twitter naive" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21822819) :2thumbsup:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/09/knives-out-george-osborne-growth (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/09/knives-out-george-osborne-growth)
Anyone think Osborne's actually going to see the light? No? I think the most damning condemnation was the IMF report saying austerity has cost us £78bn more than expected and essentially caused the double dip.
Anyone got any inside knowledge?
Of course UKB, lovely chaps that they are, recently made a cut with 24% support, so I hardly think the tories will worry about the trifling issue of 20% support. :sorry:
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https://twitter.com/peatreebojangle/status/314376043576320000
:slap:
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The other comment is also scary. "Everyone believes religion."
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I thought that was what the link was drawing our attention to. I mean, I don't really know what the pope is. All the instructions are in that book aren't they? Each cathedral has a man to read it to people on Sunday's. Too many managers I reckon. They need to call in some consultants and thin out the management hierarchy. :shrug:
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I thought that was what the link was drawing our attention to. I mean, I don't really know what the pope is. All the instructions are in that book aren't they? Each cathedral has a man to read it to people on Sunday's. Too many managers I reckon. They need to call in some consultants and thin out the management hierarchy. :shrug:
If it were an office everyone would just assume the pope and God are at it
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Police searching for more concrete evidence… (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-21798483)
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Anyone heard any news about the delightful jim davidson lately?
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Anyone heard any news about the delightful jim davidson lately?
Was he found felching Osbourne? (Allegedly)
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Not that I've heard. Depends if he has the same lawyers as Lord McAlpine.
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/20/jim-davidson-re-arrested (http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/20/jim-davidson-re-arrested)
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Shame they can't get him on anything important, like evading a parking fine.
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Or misselling services when he describes himself as a comedian.
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European Union Votes could be held in secret (http://unlockdemocracy.org.uk/pages/1162) :no:
So far one of my MEPs has responded that they will be voting against this.
Overwhelmingly rejected (http://ecrgroup.eu/?p=8259) :2thumbsup:
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That's good news. :thumbsup:
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Nice one Mina, media star. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/video/2013/mar/21/rock-climbing-peak-district-video)
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Not sure about the ethics, but a study has found a lot of doctors prescribe placebos (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0058247).
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"Scratch up a bit, little bit higher, aaagh, thats the spot (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21891177)" :blink:
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The end of the world has begun:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/large-asbestoscontaminated-tarantula-on-the-loose-in-cardiff-8544532.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/large-asbestoscontaminated-tarantula-on-the-loose-in-cardiff-8544532.html)
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The end of the world has begun:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/large-asbestoscontaminated-tarantula-on-the-loose-in-cardiff-8544532.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/large-asbestoscontaminated-tarantula-on-the-loose-in-cardiff-8544532.html)
perhaps our insect overlords should be concerned. Fire-proof giant spiders are here!!!
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Fire proof AND carcinogenic!
TREMBLE, Wales, TREMBLE!
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Only ten?
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/parliament/2013/03/the-sunday-times-reports-that-at-least-ten-police-officers-conspired-to-falsely-discredit-andrew-mit.html (http://conservativehome.blogs.com/parliament/2013/03/the-sunday-times-reports-that-at-least-ten-police-officers-conspired-to-falsely-discredit-andrew-mit.html)
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Boris on the future -
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-03-24/boris-squirms-on-pm-talk-its-not-going-to-happen/ (http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-03-24/boris-squirms-on-pm-talk-its-not-going-to-happen/)
Boris on the past -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21916385 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21916385)
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-21923218 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-21923218)
enough said
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This would never happen in Nempnett Thrubwell.
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:tumble:
This would never happen in Nempnett Thrubwell.
poor Nempnett Thrubwell. It's never recovered from the hexagonal chocolate brownies tragedy.
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-21923218 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-21923218)
enough said
And here's the HSE's response.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/record/2013/sun250313.htm (http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/record/2013/sun250313.htm)
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More proof positive.
1. Tory.
2. Head goes "Slap"*
3. = Cunt.
True now, [Pickles, Evil Twins, Hague, Howard], true then [Beeching]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21829838 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21829838)
* A congenital disease not to be confused with male pattern (or any other form of) baldness or simply a receding hairline.
It's the inability, and usually the willful inability to understand the consequences of your own laissez-faire (?) (in)actions.
The simple lack of human compassion, the lack of a sense of "fair play", the sense that "I have power and money, and fuck anyone else who doesn't"
And having a head that goes slap.
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Surely - better to let them die and decrease the surplus population?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21956316 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21956316)
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Crisis strikes the editorial team at the Daily Mail as they run out of things to be outraged about -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2299619/Selfie-photo-craze-The-pouting-pictures-I-fear-daughter-end-regretting.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2299619/Selfie-photo-craze-The-pouting-pictures-I-fear-daughter-end-regretting.html)
[WARNING! This is a link to the Daily Mail website]
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The daily mail running out of things to be outraged about?
Shit my boots. Im sure that's one of the signs in revelations.
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What's a modern phrase for "sabre-rattling"?
(Not good news.)
"Korea Opportunities" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21972936)
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Biting the hand that feeds you?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21969990 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21969990)
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"Out of touch has-been former politician" news.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/29/archbishop-attack-david-cameron?CMP=twt_gu (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/29/archbishop-attack-david-cameron?CMP=twt_gu)
(Do I mention his hairstyle?)
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'Ullo.
It'ssss my birthday!
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14000000/Gollum-Smeagol-smeagol-gollum-14076899-960-403.jpg)
(Have you brought precioussss thingssss for me?)
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'Ullo.
It'ssss my birthday!
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14000000/Gollum-Smeagol-smeagol-gollum-14076899-960-403.jpg)
(Have you brought precioussss thingssss for me?)
Dunno what went wrong there -
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14000000/Gollum-Smeagol-smeagol-gollum-14076899-960-403.jpg?1364730083762 (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14000000/Gollum-Smeagol-smeagol-gollum-14076899-960-403.jpg?1364730083762)
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14000000/Gollum-Smeagol-smeagol-gollum-14076899-960-403.jpg?1364730083762)
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The daily mail running out of things to be outraged about?
Shit my boots. Im sure that's one of the signs in revelations.
Phew!
Normal service is resumed!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301650/Call-police--sue-WPC-demands-50-000-petrol-station-owner-tripping-kerb-investigating-break-in.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301650/Call-police--sue-WPC-demands-50-000-petrol-station-owner-tripping-kerb-investigating-break-in.html)
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Morons!
" Thou shalt believe as We do, because We are ignorant pricks with over active imaginations and low IQs!"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21987151 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21987151)
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Morons!
" Thou shalt believe as We do, because We are ignorant pricks with over active imaginations and low IQs!"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21987151 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21987151)
How can it be an over-active imagination if you slavishly believe something a long-dead bigot wrote down in a book?
- And while we're here, here's the Gospels' record of what Christ said about homosexuality, Gay marriage, female bishops…
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Not a lot on Rocket Science either.
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NASA study suggests nuclear power has & can save lives and the planet....
Pushker A. Kharecha and James E Hansen (2013) Prevented mortality and greenhouse gas emissions from historical and projected nuclear power Environ. Sci. Technol AOP DOI: 10.1021/es3051197 (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es3051197?journalCode=esthag)
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NASA study suggests nuclear power has & can save lives and the planet....
Pushker A. Kharecha and James E Hansen (2013) Prevented mortality and greenhouse gas emissions from historical and projected nuclear power Environ. Sci. Technol AOP DOI: 10.1021/es3051197 (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es3051197?journalCode=esthag)
I used to set my tutees an essay to explore this.. They always started anti nuclear power, and having researched the number of deaths associated with air quality and mining/extraction many changed their minds...
There are big question marks over the impact of Chernobyl in terms of mortality (official figures are ludicrously small) and of course the legacy of a nuclear accident can last for much much longer etc..
(I have no real view - both are bad!)
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A brilliant forum post of a wheelchair users encounter with Ian Duncan Smith...
http://forum4.aimoo.com/OuchToo/Ouch-Talk/Taking-Responsibility-for-Our-Own-Actions-1-598670.html (http://forum4.aimoo.com/OuchToo/Ouch-Talk/Taking-Responsibility-for-Our-Own-Actions-1-598670.html)
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IDS doesn't wash his hands either probably!
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Sure that "D" should be a "B"...
Well, he gives me the shits, anyway...
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What a load of bankers -
http://www.standard.co.uk/business/markets/jim-armitage-barclays-is-evil-and-clever-and-nothing-can-change-that-8559627.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/business/markets/jim-armitage-barclays-is-evil-and-clever-and-nothing-can-change-that-8559627.html)
HSBC - generally competent and good
RBS (i.e. NatWest) - incompetent and evil
Lloyds - incompetent and good
Barclays - competent and evil.
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IDS doesn't wash his hands either probably!
Neither does Vince Cable, I have a first hand witness. Doesn't surprise me.
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IDS doesn't wash his hands either probably!
Neither does Vince Cable, I have a dirty hand witness. Doesn't surprise me.
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MP tried living on benefits for a week (http://theblogofkevin.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/headaches-and-toast-living-on-18-a-week/)
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-parks-disabled-bay-1812379 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-parks-disabled-bay-1812379)
And, I hear he wants to change his name to Philpot.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-parks-disabled-bay-1812379 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-parks-disabled-bay-1812379)
And, I hear he wants to change his name to Philpot.
well he's already taken disabled peoples money, and their bedrooms. It was only a matter of time before he stole their parking spaces.
I hear next week he's going around our high streets, tipping folk out of wheelchairs.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-parks-disabled-bay-1812379 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-parks-disabled-bay-1812379)
And, I hear he wants to change his name to Philpot.
well he's already taken disabled peoples money, and their bedrooms. It was only a matter of time before he stole their parking spaces.
I hear next week he's going around our high streets, tipping folk out of wheelchairs.
I'm sure he'd find a constable to do it for him....
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Don't worry everyone, George oscunt or whatever his name is, has today said he doesn't condone able bodied people parking in disabled spaces.
But he is still well up for stealing their welfare and bedrooms, while cutting taxes for the richest, ie his mates.
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Did we have this? Mississippi ratifies the ammendment banning slavery in 2013!
http://io9.com/5985959/mississippi-officially-bans-slavery-at-last (http://io9.com/5985959/mississippi-officially-bans-slavery-at-last)
Much to the detriment of a good story, this new ratification doesn't really mean anything other than the state can be officially seen to be against slavery. Apparently once a three quarters majority of states ratify an ammendment it becomes federal law, applying to all states.
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Ding, dong (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155)
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Drama teacher who organised Thatcher death parties remains unrepentant as it's revealed she had NHS breast implants
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307367/Margaret-Thatcher-death-party-teacher-Romany-Blythe-unrepentant-revealed-NHS-breast-implants.html)
Should one repent of NHS breast implants? :shrug:
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Boston etc. What the fuck.
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Crazy shit.
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Boston etc. What the fuck.
Who knows.
Does it ever make any sense?
Moronic, credulous, deluded bastards; will be responsible.
Again.
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Have had to sack it off - kind of hate it when the news goes into its "rolling news" manifestation, endlessly repeating the same couple of things they do know, putting words into bystanders' mouths etc.
The overt hunger (on one news network at least) when they were able to quote someone as saying these were "bombs" was pretty off-key.
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Its a cockout (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22163627)
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-marathon-bombing-heroes-tragedy-1835400 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-marathon-bombing-heroes-tragedy-1835400)
'Nuff said.
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The U.S. is not having a good week. The YouTube footage on the ABC link is a touch un-nerving.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fertilizer-plant-explosion-leaves-more-than-100-wounded-in-central-texas/2013/04/18/14fa7cb2-a7ef-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fertilizer-plant-explosion-leaves-more-than-100-wounded-in-central-texas/2013/04/18/14fa7cb2-a7ef-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-18/explosion-at-fertiliser-plant-near-waco-texas/4636860 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-18/explosion-at-fertiliser-plant-near-waco-texas/4636860)
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Fuck! :o
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From a different perspective...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4d_1366268895 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4d_1366268895)
Reportedly registered 2.1 on the richter scale...over 40 miles away!
Some sites are reporting that there may have been around 20 tonnes of anhydrous ammonium on site which could be the cause of the explosion.
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Rubber Dinghy Rapids (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22200133)
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Heard this on the radio the other day and immediately thought the same thing. Life imitating art imitating life, innit bro.
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From radio.
Justin bieber wrote in Anne Frank museum guestbook
"she was a great girl, hopefully she would have been a belieber"
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Don't know how many people have picked up on this article today...
url=http://www.peri.umass.edu/236/hash/31e2ff374b6377b2ddec04deaa6388b1/publication/566/]Does High Public Debt Consistently Stifle Economic Growth? A Critique of Reinhart and Rogoff[/url]
The original paper (http://www.reinhartandrogoff.com/related-research/growth-in-a-time-of-debt-featured-in) they are critiquing has been the basis for worldwide "austerity" measures in many countries, including the UK.
Unfortunately the critique shows that Reinhart and Rogoff made three important errors...
a) They excluded three instances of high-debt high-growth (Australia, New Zealand and Canada in the 40s).
b) The weighting method used has been questioned.
c) They made an error in their Excel spreadsheet and excluded Belgium and four other countries from their analysis
The reanalysis shows that the public-debt:GDP ratio is irrelevant to the growth of an economy, thus "austerity" will not stimulate the economy!!!
Some overviews are at...
Techdirt : 'Intellectual Bulwark' Of Austerity Economics Collapses Because Of Three Major Errors (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130417/02263922736/intellectual-bulwark-austerity-economics-collapses-because-three-major-errors.shtml)
Washington Post : Is the evidence for austerity based on an Excel spreadsheet error? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/16/is-the-best-evidence-for-austerity-based-on-an-excel-spreadsheet-error/)
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I tweeted about it a couple of days ago... osbournes policy based on an excel error...
It's (academically) a interesting example as to why you should always publish important results somewhere where they are reviewed before publication....
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Missed your tweet on it.
It's (academically) a interesting example as to why you should always publish important results somewhere where they are reviewed before publication....
More importantly to me its not just having your results peer reviewed, but in this instance sharing the data and code you have used would have revealed the error (although I abhor doing analysis in Excel which isn't a database nor is it numerical analysis software, it tries to be both but fails). Such transparency is related to the principle of Reproducible Research (http://reproducibleresearch.net/index.php/Main_Page) and it continues amaze me how many people are meticulous about recording their lab conditions or collecting data, and yet when they then start analysing it the same principles go out of the window and they blindly click around their dataset in Excel (best example I cam up with was a guy who had a p-value of 1 x 10-56 or there abouts because he'd sorted his data on one column and unlinked the genotypes of individuals from their true disease status :slap: ).
Places like the BMJ are starting to expect data is submitted along side the papers otherwise they won't even review it. Hopefully this will spread wider and wider.
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Interesting.. Though a related point is that some argue that you shouldn't release your data until it has been reviewed - else folk can use/interpret your data incorrectly (not understanding the full context of it etc..)
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From radio.
Justin bieber wrote in Anne Frank museum guestbook
"she was a great girl, hopefully she would have been a belieber"
I laughed when I first heard this but on further reflection it's not such an error of judgement. Anne Frank was an ordinary teenager who suffered tragically and that's why her story resonates so powerfully with all of us. If she was around today, she _probably_ would have been a Belieber and that's not a bad thing for a teenage girl.
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The bieber would be sick enough.
Unfortunately, we don't rock harder than you
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:shrug:
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:shrug:
:shrug::agree:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-22224205 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-22224205)
Be careful what you tweet, Plebs!
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A joke becomes reality
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165)
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From the Adam Smith Institute The Minimal Evidence for Minimum Pricing : The fatal flaws in the Sheffield Alcohol Policy Model by John C Duffy and Christopher Snowdon. (http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/research/files/ASI_SAPM.pdf)
Basically the model and its claims are flawed and therefore the idea that minimal pricing of alcohol will bring about the claimed benefits is wrong.
It'll no doubt upset some of the people where I work who developed the model, but they often tell me "well health economics, its hard to get accurate estimates as there are so many variables" and yet in their model they claim to be able to put an exact number on the lives saved by introducing a given minimal pricing!
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Everest base camp is a dangerous place to be...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22336540 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22336540)
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YYFY
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22335520 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22335520)
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How did Owen Paterson vote, do you know?
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How do you think? You're right.
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I think he stood up and proposed that Shell, Bayer and probably Halliburton be allowed to manage
a cost benefit analysis an inquiry into whether neonicotinoids were safe to use.
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Everest base camp is a dangerous place to be...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22336540 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22336540)
Further info. Skip to the last 2 paragraphs which add some meat to the bbc's bone.
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classic Sun headline pun
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/money/4908225/Npower-avoids-paying-108m-tax-by-funnelling-funds-to-Malta.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/money/4908225/Npower-avoids-paying-108m-tax-by-funnelling-funds-to-Malta.html)
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The Sun is blocked at my office. "Reason: Intimate Apparel/Swimwear". Oh well...
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At least you get a reason. Mine just says it's unsafe or unsuitable for me to access.
So what's the pun then?
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I think he stood up and proposed that Shell, Bayer and probably Halliburton be allowed to manage a cost benefit analysis an inquiry into whether neonicotinoids were safe to use.
Nice and impartial then. Like asing a wolf to count how many sheep there are in a field.
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You know that was tongue-in-cheek (but probably not far wrong...), right?
Many a true jest spoken in word and all that....
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So what's the pun then?
Watt? No Tax?
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Glad you're all keeping up with current affairs.. I wonder if Vince Cable will plug the party line on this?
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Stop it. That's shocking.
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Joule be sorry if you keep punning.
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Enough already, time to consign this one to the volt.
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To prevent this thread transforming into something else, I think we should restrict ourselves to one punning post only.
oops...
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Yep. Pull the plug on it.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/02/florida_girl_cuffed_in_harmless_explosion/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/02/florida_girl_cuffed_in_harmless_explosion/)
What next, Mentos and coke reclassified as a WMD? :slap:
Blowing up a Mentos Coke bottle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLHU627Mb08#)
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Supporting your Community (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21243935) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Brilliant
http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/Parkham-WI-embarrassed-dressing-pirates-talk/story-18871181-detail/story.html#axzz2S8f4xQXu?3048647628&redirected=true (http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/Parkham-WI-embarrassed-dressing-pirates-talk/story-18871181-detail/story.html#axzz2S8f4xQXu?3048647628&redirected=true)
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sesame street violence
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/02/cookie-monster-shoving-rejects-plea-deal (http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/02/cookie-monster-shoving-rejects-plea-deal)
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Yep. Pull the plug on it.
Bit harsh. Lets keep it live, its pretty down to earth. I found reading these puns a good way to kill a, what, hour?
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Yep. Pull the plug on it.
Bit harsh. Lets keep it live, its pretty down to earth. I found reading these puns a good way to kill a, what, hour?
well I've been alternating on the issue. But your argument is direct and positive. Lets keep it current
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It's certainly been generating discussion.
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It's certainly been generating discussion.
it's got me wired.
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Nice one Dave and Jasper, socket to em with the puns...
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Nice one Dave and Jasper, socket to em with the puns...
oh a bright spark eh.
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Blimey, everyone's getting involved, it's a right little pile-on.
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I didn't want to get into a pun battle.
I tried to be a resistor.
But it was no use. Too much high tension.
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This is no way to conduct ourselves. I'm off ohm.
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Yeah we don't want to ampere the proper use of this thread
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Dense is revolted at punning so I'm refusing to get involved.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2013/05/01/new-zealand-reveals-list-of-banned-baby-names (http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/2013/05/01/new-zealand-reveals-list-of-banned-baby-names)
Other names on the list included "4Real", "V8", and "Queen Victoria".
Very sensible, 7b is a much better name.
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V8+ on the other hand has become a popular name for Welsh children.
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Dense is revolted at punning so I'm refusing to get involved.
It's true, I hear he can make a potential difference to your face with some assault and battery.
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I don't see the problem.
The worst charge you can make about it is that it's gone a bit static.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22461920 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22461920)
I've let a couple loose like that after a heavy night out but I don't recall it ever knocking the pilot out
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/13/michael-goves-claim-teenagers-ignorance (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/13/michael-goves-claim-teenagers-ignorance)
Room 101 or CotY?
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Woman who refused to stop signing "I Will Always Love You" is thrown off of plane (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-thrown-off-plane-for-repeatedly-singing-whitney-houston-hit-i-will-always-love-you-8613901.html)
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It must NOT, repeat NOT, turn in to an all night rave. (http://www.romseyadvertiser.co.uk/news/news/10412714.Charity_dance_became_illegal_rave/)
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Woman who refused to stop signing "I Will Always Love You" is thrown off of plane (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-thrown-off-plane-for-repeatedly-singing-whitney-houston-hit-i-will-always-love-you-8613901.html)
Didn't they understand Makaton?
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Good to know those anti-terrorism plans are working (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22563161) :no: :slap:
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I'm only interested in MY form of nationalism (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22566183)
Someone who wants UK independence from the EU fails to understand that the Scots might want independence from the UK and calls them fascists. What a narrow minded, bigoted twat, oh wait, I forgot its the UKIP that must be a pre-requisite for membership. :wank:
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"The roommates, using good sense, called 911 after Ms. Powers took off all of her clothes and continued climbing" (http://climbing.about.com/b/2013/05/20/naked-woman-climber-high-on-mushrooms-rescued-off-third-flatiron.htm).
That doesn't sound like my idea of good sense at all.
haberich and I had a fine trip to the Utah/Colorado desert a few years ago, bagging several classic summits. On the final morning he was being a Master of the Universe in Denver so I soloed up the 3rd Flatiron (sober) before repairing for a leisurely breakfast in Boulder. It was nearly the best route of the trip.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/farright-french-historian-78yearold-dominique-venner-commits-suicide-in-notre-dame-in-protest-against-gay-marriage-8625877.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/farright-french-historian-78yearold-dominique-venner-commits-suicide-in-notre-dame-in-protest-against-gay-marriage-8625877.html)
OK, I feel for the tourists who had to see this but I can't help but feel the world is a slightly better place for his departing it.
:worms:?
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Cocky bastard rules the roost in Derbyshire village (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-22750337)
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ET phone home (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22766511)
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ET phone home (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22766511)
Hmmm. Publicity stunt.
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This is 8)
Karl LaFleur, Kaitlin Cassady, Alexander Doud, Kaleb Shades, Eitan Rogin Bin He (2013) Quadcopter control in three-dimensional space using a noninvasive motor imagery-based brain–computer interface. Journal of Neural Engineering 10 046003 (http://iopscience.iop.org/1741-2552/10/4/046003/article)
Mind Over Mechanics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LWz4qa2XQA#ws)
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Never mind that lowbrow shit, this is what this thread is all about. Seroius NEWS!:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22811942 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22811942)
A pair of concrete wellington boots given to the comedian Jimmy Cricket by fellow funnyman Ken Dodd have been stolen from his garden in Rochdale.
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Ever the funny man...
look for a burglar with a hernia
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Scapegoats (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/06/20136282948107176.html)
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It's DIFFERENT LENGTHS! (http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Couple-return-holiday-grass-street-cut-different/story-19155350-detail/story.html#axzz2W0NaiDp9)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-22854447 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-22854447)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22852742 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22852742)
Australian politics
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Bloody Sheilas.
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An issue for trading standards (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-22887138) :lol:
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Must admit I didn't know a thing about the back story on this. Horrible from top to bottom:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22773440 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22773440)
The last bit stood out to me too remembering the discussion we had after the riots:
Mr A said it was hard for normal people seeing "people like Cregan, living a lifestyle that was far beyond most people's means".
"Trips away, decent cars, I mean it was pretty obvious what people are up to when you go to school or the nursery in the morning and someone turns up in a 4x4 with a blazing suntan," he said.
"It's attractive because that's what we see on our televisions every day, that's what we measure success by... what car you drive and what clothes you're wearing."
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/michael-jackson-ghost-court-dr-murray-innocent-article-1.1373550 (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/michael-jackson-ghost-court-dr-murray-innocent-article-1.1373550)
Nothing weird about this story, no.
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So much for a free press (http://www.andmagazine.com/content/phoenix/13003.html). :no:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22852742 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22852742)
Australian politics
Ex-PM as of last night. Krudd's back in charge...after a fashion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia (http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia) - not much else on the front pages here at the moment.
Very good piece on the fate of our first woman PM here too... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/26/julia-gillard-where-go-wrong (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/26/julia-gillard-where-go-wrong)
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Fascinating case:
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021243552_janedoexml.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021243552_janedoexml.html)
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Man of Steel in Steel City (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/video-superman-foils-sheffield-shop-raid-1-5821421)
I had to pin him up against Cash Converters
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That's a quality story and also showcases Gleadless for the shithole that it is very well.
I think the last time I noticed the area in the news was when supermarkets had stopped delivering to homes there because they kept getting attacked and robbed by the local scum. Classy.
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Why has this attracted no comment at all?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/12/shard-protesters-macho-activism-greenpeace (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/12/shard-protesters-macho-activism-greenpeace)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/14/zimmerman-acquitted-killing-trayvon-martin (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/14/zimmerman-acquitted-killing-trayvon-martin)
Looks like lynching has been accepted in at least one southern town..... :worms:
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Meanwhile a ref is beheaded and quartered in Brazil. Wonder if the world cup refs are withdrawing applications?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/10165304/Brazilian-referee-beheaded-and-quartered-after-stabbing-player-he-sent-off.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/10165304/Brazilian-referee-beheaded-and-quartered-after-stabbing-player-he-sent-off.html)
(sorry if this is a repost, been away!)
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Brilliant "fuck you" to The Dially Mial:
http://blog.dave.org.uk/2013/07/amanda-palmer-vs-the-daily-mail.html (http://blog.dave.org.uk/2013/07/amanda-palmer-vs-the-daily-mail.html)
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San Francisco TV Station Exposing Names Of Asiana Pilots Asiana Pilots names (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWvPCBqQoa0#)
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Classic. ;D
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3ec8cd030e98ba79e11f4e05b945546c/tumblr_mqdwkhK4821sqmjg8o1_r1_400.jpg)
So fucking what indeed.....
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Squat for me!
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/akinwale-arobieke-touched-well-built-mens-5392415 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/akinwale-arobieke-touched-well-built-mens-5392415)
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Silvio Berlusconi is officially a criminal, and has been such for the last 20 years. This is what the Supreme Court established yesterday by confirming the two previous judgements that had found him guilty of tax fraud.
Not that anything is going to change in Italian politics from now on, but it's important.
You'll find links everywhere.
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Will anything actually happen to him though Lore?
With my limited knowledge of Italian justice it seemed as if he could keep the appeals process going until he died. Or is this judgement final?
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This judgement is final. He got 4 years but he'll do only one. He won't go to jail due to his age and he can choose between a public service duty or home detention.
There's a law that, when applied, will throw him out of the Parliament and will make him uneligible in the future.
A good start.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/01/us-zimbabwe-election-idUSBRE96T14B20130801 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/01/us-zimbabwe-election-idUSBRE96T14B20130801)
Bollocks
"I'M NOT DEAD YET"
Mores the fucking pity. Lets hope the syphillis finally sees hin off, the mad old bastard.
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More evidence of insanity from everyone's least favourite despot.
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/08/05/robert-mugabe-blasts-coward-nelson-mandela/ (http://dailycurrant.com/2013/08/05/robert-mugabe-blasts-coward-nelson-mandela/)
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More evidence of insanity from everyone's least favourite despot.
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/08/05/robert-mugabe-blasts-coward-nelson-mandela/ (http://dailycurrant.com/2013/08/05/robert-mugabe-blasts-coward-nelson-mandela/)
Robert Mugabe shares his view:
I am the greatest African who has ever lived," Mugabe said. "The world should love me more than the idiot Nelson Mandela. F**k Nelson Mandela.
I have been leader for 33 years. Mandela was president for five years. What kind of idiot gives up political power? Great leaders like me know how to stay in power.
:-\ :-\
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Yeah, it's laughable, scary and sad all at the same time.
I am the greatest African who has ever lived," Mugabe said.
According to all the votes cast by one person; Bob himself.
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More evidence of insanity from everyone's least favourite despot.
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/08/05/robert-mugabe-blasts-coward-nelson-mandela/ (http://dailycurrant.com/2013/08/05/robert-mugabe-blasts-coward-nelson-mandela/)
The Daily Currant has this to say about their stories:
Q. Are your news stories real?
A. No. Our stories are purely fictional. However they are meant to address real-world issues through satire and often refer and link to real events happening in the world
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He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23665106)
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Oprah told handbag was too expensive for her...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23626340 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23626340)
Oprah says sorry for calling Switzerland racist
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23679605 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23679605)
Apparently, the between the lines (but unspoken by Swiss media) story was that she was dressed and make-upped in the style of a local lady of the night.
You gotta love the Swiss :clap2:
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Squat for me!
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/akinwale-arobieke-touched-well-built-mens-5392415 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/akinwale-arobieke-touched-well-built-mens-5392415)
Purple Aki's been a hero in the Scouse climbing scene for some years now, just ask Richie Crouch, Mills, Hoppo, Youngy...
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-23/bradley-manning-says-he-wants-to-live-as-a-woman-named-chelsea/4906888 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-23/bradley-manning-says-he-wants-to-live-as-a-woman-named-chelsea/4906888)
Saw the headline and this just popped into my head...
Monty Python's The life of Brian - I want to be a woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c#)
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Hope you're all keeping a keen eye locked on the unfolding NSA, Snowden/Miranda/forced destruction of guardian computer hard drives etc... story
And then today a very strange and quite possibly sinister story in the Independent (who exactly was their source?):
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-uks-secret-mideast-internet-surveillance-base-is-revealed-in-edward-snowden-leaks-8781082.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-uks-secret-mideast-internet-surveillance-base-is-revealed-in-edward-snowden-leaks-8781082.html)
I'm really hoping the Indie have got a credible explanation for their actions, otherwise it doesn't look good.
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For The Independent you mean? I didn't think they have any sort of reputation for being cavalier, printing unverifiable stories or of having to retract?
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It just looks like a story created by Whitehall for the Indy to publish. Odd that there's no reference to sources beyond 'a senior Whitehall source' - and the only quote from Greenwald makes him appear spiteful and subjective.
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Pastafarianism (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/texas-pastafarian-license-photo_n_3816839.html)
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http://youtu.be/r3BO6GP9NMY (http://youtu.be/r3BO6GP9NMY)
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http://youtu.be/r3BO6GP9NMY (http://youtu.be/r3BO6GP9NMY)
that's Trowbarrow fucked then.
But hey, a nuclear holocaust can only improve tintern quarry.
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Nice Dave...
Real nice...
Quote from the Groaniard.
<quote>David Cameron accused Ed Miliband of siding with Russia and letting down the United States over Syria in an acrimonious phone call made between the leaders a day before the Commons votes against intervention in Syria, according to Labour sources.
Details of the remarkably frank conversation emerged after Downing Street aides attempted to blame Miliband for killing off the government's plans to take military action against Bashar al-Assad's regime in conjunction with the US.
When Miliband made it clear in the call he would not support the government motion without more conditions, an exasperated Cameron accused him of "letting down America" and "siding with [Sergei] Lavrov", the Russian foreign minister, and an ally of Assad.
One Labour aide said that was the point in which negotiations between Cameron and Miliband first started to break down on Wednesday.
Cameron was hoping to reach cross-party consensus on a roadmap towards military action.
The Labour source said Miliband had also been disappointed by the language of a government source, who told the Times: "No 10 and the Foreign Office think Miliband is a fucking cunt and a copper-bottomed shit."
"Ed wasn't angry, he was frustrated by the flippancy of it," the Labour source said.
Relations between Downing Street and Labour have grown increasingly bitter over the last 48 hours, as the two sides failed to back a common motion on Syria.<quote>
Where does this guy get off?
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:worms:
I've been following this all closely. The more I read, the more I feel that whatever decision is made will let innocent people down in an unimaginable way.
The one thing that has angered me here is the way our MPs have behaved. The breakdown of votes just shows how they voted as they were told to by their leader. What a bunch of puppets, all taking part in a popularity contest with the ultimate aim of being in Government. Perhaps the only reason for us letting bad things happen around the world is we can't even sort our own house out.
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I'd love to think Assad could be stopped by a bombing campaign. They get more accurate as time passes and the degree of collateral damage (fucking hate that term) has reduced dramatically in the last few decades.
But.
I don't believe it will have the effect that people are expecting.
History doesn't support the hypothesis.
I've been up close to these things before (for me it was the 90/91 round of the Gulf shenanigans (and that solved f'all) and the shithole formally know as Yugoslavia and some interesting forays into West Africa where the local thugs liked to alter children's shirts from long sleeve to short sleeves with machetes and the arms still inside).
Anyone who's ever read any of my previous posts may notice a less than subtle difference in my turn of phrase in this one.
Now.
That said.
Assassination is a different story.
And we have the right tools for that job.
Some of them have recently suspended their Facebook accounts too...
But what then?
Take a look at our intervention legacy since WW2.
It ain't great.
Libya has to be the most "hands off" intervention the West has ever made and it's not going so well.
I'm damn glad I'm not having to make any of these decisions, I couldn't.
And the horrors of Syria right now, would be enough for me to forsake my commitment to pacifism.
But I'm afraid Dave is more interested in playing Lawrence than actually helping anyone.
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:worms:
Perhaps the only reason for us letting bad things happen around the world is we can't even sort our own house out.
The only reason is how it stands up against our self-interest, and the long game to control that magic little word, oil. Morality is for PR only I'm afraid.
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http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-boffins-brew-up-a-hydrating-beer-20130816-2s20b.html (http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-boffins-brew-up-a-hydrating-beer-20130816-2s20b.html)
If you're going to live in the real world, you can either spend your time telling people what they shouldn't do, or you can work on ways of reducing the danger of some of these socialised activities
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The new super beer paves the way for products to be developed
non-addictive crack biscuits
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I'm an Idiot (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23955695) :lol: :clap2:
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/boozy-feral-pig-steals-beer-gets-drunk-and-starts-fight-with-a-cow-8805312.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/boozy-feral-pig-steals-beer-gets-drunk-and-starts-fight-with-a-cow-8805312.html)
Can a news story get any better?
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Life immitating Viz.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24031979 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24031979)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2nuhyeo.jpg)
;D
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I wonder if he's buying his ticket with leftover money from live aid?
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Pure Unreason (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/16/kant-philospohy-argument-turns-violent)
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Good news for wankers (in Sweden) (http://gawker.com/public-masturbation-declared-legal-in-sweden-after-land-1340599730)
....but cyclists beware (http://gawker.com/swedish-police-searching-for-bicycle-fucker-caught-on-v-603635291)
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Beware of Pennywise in Northampton (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/creepy-northampton-clown-terrifying-residents-by-standing-around-on-street-corners-staring-at-passersby-29584319.html)
Fear not, Borris the Clown Catcher will save you (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/northampton-clown-catcher-vows-to-hunt-down-creepy-circus-man-stalking-the-streets-of-east-midlands-29586031.html)
Just 'a bit of harmless fun' says Pennywise (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/creepy-northampton-clown-speaks-out-appearances-were-a-bit-of-harmless-fun-29591883.html)
:clown: :whistle:
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Missed a great opportunity to use that clown smiley there Slackers.
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http://www.minyanville.com/business-news/editors-pick/articles/A-Russian-Bank-Is-Sued-for/8/14/2013/id/51305?refresh=1 (http://www.minyanville.com/business-news/editors-pick/articles/A-Russian-Bank-Is-Sued-for/8/14/2013/id/51305?refresh=1)
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Just 'a bit of harmless fun' says Pennywise (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/creepy-northampton-clown-speaks-out-appearances-were-a-bit-of-harmless-fun-29591883.html)
linked to the climbing related
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/walkers-at-cave-hill-beauty-spot-shocked-as-naked-woman-poses-for-pictures-29553470.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/walkers-at-cave-hill-beauty-spot-shocked-as-naked-woman-poses-for-pictures-29553470.html)
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Hurrah! (http://www.nme.com/news/mumford-and-sons/72796)
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Eddie Izzard to run for mayor of london (http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-09-24/eddie-izzard-to-run-for-london-mayor/)
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linked to the climbing related
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/walkers-at-cave-hill-beauty-spot-shocked-as-naked-woman-poses-for-pictures-29553470.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/walkers-at-cave-hill-beauty-spot-shocked-as-naked-woman-poses-for-pictures-29553470.html)
How DISGUSTING!............Turkish Delight?! Ugh. ;D
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...relationship counselling in the main hall, or a flogging workshop in the small hall next door. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-24240287) :lol:
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She said that despite owning three properties, she had been forced to apply for housing benefit and is also considering applying for jobseekers allowance.
She told the panel: "I do not know how I am going to feed my kids, never mind the mortgages." (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-24276627)
Errr, sell one of your properties ::)
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That's daft. Why doesn't she just sell her story to a tabloid rag? ;)
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A serving Chief Constable advocating decriminialising all drugs (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/28/ending-war-on-drugs-cut-crime-mike-barton) makes for a fresh change instead of waiting until he's retired to be saying this.
I very much doubt it'll make any change, but hey, not to worry, you'll soon be able to get a pint at the motorway service station (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/27/drug-driving-alcohol-policy-pubs-motorway).
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Lightsabers invented (sort of):
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/30/star-wars-lightsabers-invented (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/30/star-wars-lightsabers-invented)
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http://news.yahoo.com/climber-finds-treasure-trove-off-mont-blanc-111739540.html (http://news.yahoo.com/climber-finds-treasure-trove-off-mont-blanc-111739540.html)
Admirable for not pocketing a few.
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Yosemite shut down in US budget showdown (http://www.nps.gov/shutdown/index.html)
I'm really happy we didn't go to Yosemite this fall. I would have been :furious:
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http://news.yahoo.com/climber-finds-treasure-trove-off-mont-blanc-111739540.html (http://news.yahoo.com/climber-finds-treasure-trove-off-mont-blanc-111739540.html)
Admirable for not pocketing a few.
Who says he didn't?!
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Yosemite shut down in US budget showdown (http://www.nps.gov/shutdown/index.html)
I'm really happy we didn't go to Yosemite this fall. I would have been :furious:
"P-Ben in 'stroke of luck' shocker!"
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Jon Stewart on the GOP and the US government shutdown. Totally brilliant:
http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-ripping-into-the-gop-is-a-thing-of-beauty-1434750022 (http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-ripping-into-the-gop-is-a-thing-of-beauty-1434750022)
This is the only link I could find that works in the UK btw.
Oh and....
http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-goes-after-the-gop-again-tonight-because-f-1439281436 (http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-goes-after-the-gop-again-tonight-because-f-1439281436)
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Jon Stewart on the GOP and the US government shutdown. Totally brilliant:
http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-ripping-into-the-gop-is-a-thing-of-beauty-1434750022 (http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-ripping-into-the-gop-is-a-thing-of-beauty-1434750022)
This is the only link I could find that works in the UK btw.
Oh and....
http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-goes-after-the-gop-again-tonight-because-f-1439281436 (http://jezebel.com/jon-stewart-goes-after-the-gop-again-tonight-because-f-1439281436)
fucking genius.
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Yosemite shut down in US budget showdown (http://www.nps.gov/shutdown/index.html)
I'm really happy we didn't go to Yosemite this fall. I would have been :furious:
Purportedly Day 2 of shutdown...
(http://i.imgur.com/XOHioqO.jpg)
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fight the man, man.
Some friends just got turfed out, I'm gutted for them, months of planning out the window because of some superb clusterfuckery.
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Currently working with a group of young people with learning disabilities on the subject of Preparing for the World of Work and am after some facts and figures around migrant workers. I'm trying to combat the idea that "they're taking all our jobs..." and thought the learned folk of this parish might be able to point me in the right direction.
And before Slackers any resident pedants feel the need to pipe up, I have used Google and have found some useful information about the numbers of foreign workers and their locations etc but I'm struggling to find stuff that doesn't smack of Daily Hate style propaganda...
Cheers...
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This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/22_08_06_migrantworkers.pdf) is the best link I've found so far but I didn't really want to go through something as detailed as this!!
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Look round fullfact.org or C4s FactCheck to see if they've written any articles on the subject.
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Despite the slur on his good name, he's still useful :) Consider yourself wadded sir...
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http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/local-news/relief-as-kenny-jumper-safely-returned-1-5524216 (http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/local-news/relief-as-kenny-jumper-safely-returned-1-5524216)
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He said: "This incident could happen at any school around the country."
I say, "I seriously hope not".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-24402722 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-24402722)
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http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/local-news/relief-as-kenny-jumper-safely-returned-1-5524216 (http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/local-news/relief-as-kenny-jumper-safely-returned-1-5524216)
Close the thread and start Da News 2, we have a winner.
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Christianity invented by Romans to pacify the poor:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.html)
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He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw#ws)
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AdLib news.... Radioactive Zombies and Rebekah Brookes raping a monkey (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2011/08/17/bbc-sign-language-interpreter-sacked-for-changing-the-news/)
...though when I had Cameron tell Obama “your statesmen-like profile leaves my willy plump” – well, frankly I don’t think that is so very far from the truth.
NB - Note the site, apparently French media aren't familiar with it and reported it as genuine news ;)
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Christianity invented by Romans to pacify the poor:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.html)
This is a load of shite. The guy is ever so very slightly more credible as a scholar than Dan Brown. How he makes international news as if his spoutings are factual is bewildering. If you want to read a serious, credible work on the origins of christianity by an atheist scholar worth listening to, then I'd refer you to the works of my old lecturer James Crossley, who has been interviewed by the press for his opinion on Atwill.
I wrote something about this on fb. If anyone's interested, I'll look it up.
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-school-abandoned-and-left-to-rot-1-6160189 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-school-abandoned-and-left-to-rot-1-6160189)
perhaps it could be used to house some sort of training for rock climbing facility?
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-school-abandoned-and-left-to-rot-1-6160189 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-school-abandoned-and-left-to-rot-1-6160189)
perhaps it could be used to house some sort of training for rock climbing facility?
Unfuckingbelievable!
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-school-abandoned-and-left-to-rot-1-6160189 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-school-abandoned-and-left-to-rot-1-6160189)
perhaps it could be used to house some sort of training for rock climbing facility?
Yeah, but what would you call it?
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Help, I'm navigationally challenged! (https://www.facebook.com/edalemountainrescue/posts/707184655976951) ::)
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Fiancée must have one hell of a temper (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-24624639) :lol:
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StoneBob DeadPants (http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/oct/22/spongebob-squarepants-gravestone-iraq-war-veteran-video)
and a similar one erected for Kimberly's still-living twin sister
:-\
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and a similar one erected for Kimberly's still-living twin sister
That's the wierdest part of the story. Wonder if it was a BOGOF.
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Second one really should have been Patrick too if they were going to do it properly.
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Not quite news, but interesting interview from Newsnight....
NEWSNIGHT - Paxman vs Brand. Full Interview. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk#)
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Thats fascinating.. good on him. I recommend a listen..
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Brand in the New Statesman (http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/10/russell-brand-on-revolution) (which is why Paxman was interviewing him).
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Brand in the New Statesman (http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/10/russell-brand-on-revolution) (which is why Paxman was interviewing him).
Its long, rambling but very good :)
"I shook George Osborne’s hand once, by accident, it was like sliding my hand into a dilated cow."
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Really good and worth reading.
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I wonder if Paxman realised he came out of that looking a complete prat?
Now...
Can we get him in a room with Brand and Minchin, simultainiously?
Better still, Camer(lo)on instead of Paxman.
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Tory MP calls Russell Brand a "twat" (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/25/russell-brand-michael-fabricant_n_4163270.html)
i'm sure "Fabricant" sounds like a madeup name.
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isnt that the term for the robots in Blade Runner?
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Close. Replicants I think.
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Rag doll, Kraut, Philosopher?
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Lies, damn lies & statistics : Propaganda in politics (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/27/observer-editorial-health-tourism-propaganda)
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Much as i hate to link to M%$l articles (and this fucking cunt in particular) having read his victim's dissection of his bullshit here (http://agirlcalledjack.com/2013/11/01/dear-richard-littlejohn-heres-some-polish-for-that-turd/) I had to skim the original pile of shite (with gritted teeth) here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2482111/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Ah-Pesto-Meet-poverty-poster-girls.html).
So someone writes a blog helping people to feed their families really cheaply and (because they also support the idea of people paying less for energy) this is what they get. In the words of our hero "you couldn't make it up".
I realise he does it on purpose week in week out but the level of factual innacuracy and nastiness in this one is truly stunning. Of course the scary thing is that a lot of people still believe this rubbish.
EDIT - probably a good time to remid people of this too....
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/littlejohn-doesnt-do-research-shock.html (http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/littlejohn-doesnt-do-research-shock.html)
Cunt.
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What an absolute sanctimonious shit!
Ah that felt good.
I can't believe he gets away with it. Surely he is liable for slander. It is not an opinion piece if you are deliberately misrepresenting that facts.
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Tory MP calls Russell Brand a "twat" (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/25/russell-brand-michael-fabricant_n_4163270.html)
Robert Webb calls Russell brand a twat (while not actually using the word)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/31/robert-webb-russell-brand_n_4180398.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)
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Bravo! Fantastic riposte...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/01/richard-littlejohn-wrong-about-jack-monroe-daily-mail?commentpage=1 (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/01/richard-littlejohn-wrong-about-jack-monroe-daily-mail?commentpage=1)
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I actually think this is a good effort:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24835322 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24835322)
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Me too.
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Seems appropriate the towers themselves were condemned weren't they...
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http://rt.com/news/naked-artist-nails-testicles-519/ (http://rt.com/news/naked-artist-nails-testicles-519/)
If I was protesting I'd nail a board to a plank and write a slogan on it, but each to their own.
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I actually think this is a good effort:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24835322 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24835322)
The students said: "We never meant to be offensive, but we apologise if any offence was caused.
That's the problem with students these days, not offensive enough! Some of my fave fancy dress costumes of mine and others have been hugely offensive! Friends have done Harold Shipman and Foot & Mouth Disease whilst I'm most proud of my at the time of the Alderhey scandal, a kiddie doctor which I accessorised with dismembered dolls in specimen bags complete with strawberry dessert sauce...)Mmmm. :guilty:
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Lefty tossers (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2012/nov/01/boris-johnson-lefty-tossers-video)
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Monbiot : Its business that really rules us now (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/11/business-rules-lobbying-corporate-interests)
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^ If you have any wit, you can see it as plain as day. It's a return to Victorian distribution of wealth, only this time it's going to get worse, not better. We're in trouble.
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If you thought Boris Johnson was bad he's not a patch on Toronto's Rob Ford (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/11/13/21264576.html) :lol:
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No to mention his brother etc etc:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/globe-investigation-the-ford-familys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/globe-investigation-the-ford-familys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/)
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"I've got more than enough to eat at home" :lol: :lol: :lol:
Toronto mayor Rob Ford says he gets enough pussy to eat at home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4siKr6qY8w#ws)
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Jon Stewart's having a field day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CUBx5umMw0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CUBx5umMw0)
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tomnod.com (http://tomnod.com)
Amazing: you can help the Philipines aid effort without coughing up a penny. Check it out.
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The land of the free...
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/opinion/kristof-serving-life-for-this.html (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/opinion/kristof-serving-life-for-this.html)
Heartbreaking and unbelievable.
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Cannot even comprehend what those people must be thinking, sitting in jail for ever some for just trying to deal with a difficult situaiton (the kids health care costs - one reason why I think the NHS should be saved, not binned...anyway...) and the other because they are addicted or dependant on drugs.
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
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Meanwhile in Britain...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24978293 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24978293)
Of course, if you were working-class (aka Poor), you'd get time for this sort of thing too, just not Life...
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OK, in September I had to watch my country elect a third rate hack with a supporting cast of half-wits as our new federal government - so utterly shit they are already languishing in the polls after two months...that's gotta be some kind of record. Now, my home town has decided, in it's infinite collective wisdom, to try somebody a little different from the mainstream of politics as mayor.....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/26/darryn-lyons-what-reality-tv-has-taught-us-about-geelongs-new-mayor (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/26/darryn-lyons-what-reality-tv-has-taught-us-about-geelongs-new-mayor)
...what the fuck were they thinking!?
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It's cos this is your morning TV:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=583130895088037 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=583130895088037)
(watch until at least 1.30)
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I don't think you can use morning TV as its universally shit, regardless of the country of origin.
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Sounds like Cameron wants to follow China's lead by censoring freedom of speech on the net in the UK (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm131023/debtext/131023-0001.htm)...
We have had repeated meetings of the extremism task force—it met again yesterday—setting out a whole series of steps that we will take to counter the extremist narrative, including by blocking online sites.
:wank:
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This is just what we needed to raise the standard of news coverage in Austalia...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/daily-mail-to-launch-australian-website-edition/5120780 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/daily-mail-to-launch-australian-website-edition/5120780)
:slap:
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Berlusconi is out of the Parliament and Italy has retained a 0,0000001% of dignity.
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He's lost his immunity now so that'll be a right bun fight for those pesky lawyers I expect...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25119158 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25119158)
So, finally the Xtians admit that Homosexuals have rights!
"Mike Judge, from the Christian Institute, said after the hearing: "What this case shows is that the powers of political correctness have reached all the way to the top of the judicial tree, so much so that even the Supreme Court dare not say anything against gay rights."
Correctness: Check
Judicial: Check
Rights: Check
"You keep using that word (rights). I am a not a sure it a means whata you teenk ita means." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inigo_Montoya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inigo_Montoya) ).
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Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but I thought that this (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/dec/01/women-climbers-records-ascents) was a well researched piece by the Guardian.... Makes a change compared to most of the Daily Fail style "hanging on by their fingernails above a drop of certain death" bollocks...
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Shame about most of the comments though..... :wall:
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"I come from Sheffield!" :lol:
(http://i.imgur.com/QGuVslh.jpg)
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Can't read that no matter how far away I stand.
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Well I never.....
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/05/call-halt-fitness-for-work-test-disabled (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/05/call-halt-fitness-for-work-test-disabled)
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A not very interesting news item but for the four(!) negations in the headline…
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/2/1/climate/appeals-court-rejects-apple-bid-overturn-sales-ban-denial (http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/2/1/climate/appeals-court-rejects-apple-bid-overturn-sales-ban-denial)
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Can't read that no matter how far away I stand.
I think most people can probably cope with going to ukc if they really want to see a picture
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http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/11/mcdonalds-customer-responds-to-cold-drive-thru-french-fries-by-throwing-axe-at-staff-4226396/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/11/mcdonalds-customer-responds-to-cold-drive-thru-french-fries-by-throwing-axe-at-staff-4226396/)
Otherwise how was the font trip Fiend :)
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a lot of them are now questioning the existence of the tooth fairy as well (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/dec/12/pupils-father-christmas-ruined-by-vicar-santa-claus-origins)
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Never really understood bringing children up to be honest and then lying to them about santa/easter bunny/toothfairy/[...].
Don't really recall finding this out myself, but don't think it was a huge revelation/disappointment having already found presents under my parents bed that santa then gave to us. :-\
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It's nice for kids to have these little bits of "magic" in their lives. We spend long enough being fact addled cynics.
Having said that, I don't think Sharpe jnr will give a flying fuck when he finds out Father Christmas isn't real. He's that underwhelmed about Christmas anyway it's actually quite funny. We had to wake him up last year on Christmas morning and yet he's woken me up at 6 every day the Ashes has been on (even though we've been getting royally battered). The most excited I've seen him this year was when I told him we were going to the Amex for Brighton Blackburn.
Can't imagine where he gets it from..... :whistle: ;D
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It's nice for kids to have these little bits of "magic" in their lives.
+1, I can't remember any particularly crushing disappointment when I found out, but can clearly remember the excitement when I "believed".
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Man tries to trade alligator for 12-pack of beer (http://www.reuters.com/video/2013/12/18/florida-man-tries-to-trade-alligator-for?videoId=275145137)
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Elves halt planning permission for Icelandic Highway (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/22/elf-lobby-iceland-road-project).
:shrug:
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http://news.sky.com/story/1187217/piranha-attack-dozens-hurt-in-argentina (http://news.sky.com/story/1187217/piranha-attack-dozens-hurt-in-argentina)
At least they weren't flying.
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Sinkhole opens at Foolow in Derbyshire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-25554549) :o
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72008000/jpg/_72008040_sinkhole1.jpg)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72008000/jpg/_72008039_sinkhole2.jpg)
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72008000/jpg/_72008046_sinkhole3.jpg)
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You're lucky I didn't knock you out (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-25634173) :no:
Video Reveals Rude Police Officer Threatening to Arrest Man for Photographing Scene of an Accident (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhCIf6gtEu0#ws)
Watch to the end and the camera is returned to him without having any images removed.
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This is a new direction in news reporting I don't think will take off....
News Reporter Fired For Saying He Would F**k Missing Woman If They Ever Found Her! (Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZgvND8PtQ#ws)
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"I'm just going for a spin" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25618683) :lol:
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green light for dickheads
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25648019 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25648019)
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"It risks it being used for.... street preachers, canvassers, carol singers, trick-or-treaters, church bell ringers, clay pigeon shooters," he said.
Sounds reasonable.
The Home Office has said the new injunctions - part of the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill - would never be imposed in an unreasonable way.
What could possibly go wrong?
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"It risks it being used for.... street preachers, canvassers, carol singers, trick-or-treaters, church bell ringers, clay pigeon shooters," he said.
Sounds reasonable.
Add charity muggers / sub-prime credit card hawkers (rates of both seem to have soared in Leeds City Centre recently) to that list and I'd vote for it.
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lucky man
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25671745 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25671745)
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lucky man
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25671745 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-25671745)
Very lucky indeed.
NHS trust spends £5000 on "4 hour ‘Jazz Thinking for Transformational Leadership in the NHS’ course" (http://)
NB : This is worth reading to balance out the authors dumb claims about "13000 excess deaths"
Have there been 13 000 needless deaths at 14 NHS trusts? (http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f4893)
It is clinically meaningless and academically reckless to use such statistical measures to quantify actual numbers of avoidable deaths. Robert Francis himself said: ‘It is in my view misleading and a potential misuse of the figures to extrapolate from them a conclusion that any particular number, or range of numbers of deaths were caused or contributed to by inadequate care’.
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"Plebgate" rozzer pleads guilty:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25682652 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25682652)
I include this purely so that I can post this photo...
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72198000/jpg/_72198965_72198960.jpg)
Has anybody ever looked more like an 80's copper (out of Juliet Bravo, Dempsey & Makepeace, The Bill etc)?
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Shit isn't that....the bloke on the left?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_C-bR9dGiwHc/S7ZoEWedJzI/AAAAAAAABIs/BsKbDd5nSvw/s1600/ashes_to_ashes_cast.jpg)
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(http://i1.cdnds.net/09/47/550w_ds_icons_tosh_lines_1.jpg)
:-\
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Home Office admits it doesn't know if the "War on Drugs"TM is working (http://politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2014/01/10/comment-hidden-in-a-strategy-document-the-home-office-admits)
Bill Hicks - War On Drugs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy-y-uamSiE#)
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Depressing stuff. I'm not clever enough to work out exactly whose interest is being protected by this stuff but it must be someone's. I can't believe that it's purely fear of the Daily Mail et al that prevents logic playing any part in policy whatsoever.
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http://www.climbing.com/news/climber-accused-of-killing-his-climbing-mentor-with-claw-hammer/ (http://www.climbing.com/news/climber-accused-of-killing-his-climbing-mentor-with-claw-hammer/)
wonder if it's common to have hammers lying about at the base of crags in the US?
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Fancy a swim with a dangerous shark?
It wigged-out and came at me. It's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever done. (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/killer-shark-leaves-budgie-cage-diver-red-faced-035212866.html?vp=1#hSw98vm)
If that's only probably, I'd love to know what the other contenders were :lol:
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The cause of the current bad conditions is finally out... (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/18/uk-storms-divine-retirubtion-gay-marriage-ukip)
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The cause of the current bad conditions is finally out... (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/18/uk-storms-divine-retirubtion-gay-marriage-ukip)
@UKIPWeather (https://twitter.com/UkipWeather) :lol:
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The cause of the current bad conditions is finally out... (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/18/uk-storms-divine-retirubtion-gay-marriage-ukip)
Is flat out bonkers shit like this supposed to win voters?
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Smart fridge sends out spam emails. Genius. This stuff writes itself.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25780908 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25780908)
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nightclubs and pubs serve drinks to drunk people
http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2014/01/03/jech-2013-203287.short?q=w_jech_ahead_sidetab (http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2014/01/03/jech-2013-203287.short?q=w_jech_ahead_sidetab)
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Depressing stuff. I'm not clever enough to work out exactly whose interest is being protected by this stuff but it must be someone's. I can't believe that it's purely fear of the Daily Mail et al that prevents logic playing any part in policy whatsoever.
About half the population (Daily Mail readers and their ilk) are against drug liberalisation. A mix of pure fear, ignorance and puritanism I reckon, and with those drivers who needs logic and evidence-based policy? Anyhow, no politician wants the inevitable "legal cannabis turned my son schizophrenic" type headlines which you just know are going to appear, and saving blushes at the Home Office is well worth £3bn a year no?
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from what I've seen recently, the likes of Psyclone and other "legal highs" are doing a fine job of giving a shove to people's potential for developing mental health problems
not that Mail readers approve of those things, but they do like to be seen as being on the right side of the law
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I went to a talk by David Nutt last summer, at a festival.* He talked quite a bit about the harms of illegalising E. All the replacements are more dangerous, including plenty of the legal stuff. Obv some of the illegal stuff is pretty lethal. Yet the government thinks it's a good idea to try and hit MDMA supplies, inevitably just increasing supplies of other stuff.
As to the political benefits of illegalisation, I'd say it's quite useful for demonising a certain class of people. I listened to a French philosopher a while back who pointed out that one of the best ways for an elite to shit on people and make them put up with is to get them to mentally shit on other people 'beneath' them. So the working class and lower middles all put up with endless unjust shit as long as they can all say: 'at least I'm not.... benefits scum.....a chav....a gypo....a druggy....an immigrant.
It also maintains fear. Fear isn't just a Daily Mail thing. Fear is how oppressive governments maintain power - the Mail is working in their interests (FWIW Viscount Rothermere is a personal supporter of Cameron). We need to be afraid of feral youth, drug addicts, immigrants, gypsies, chavs, communists or whoever is in vogue at the time, because it legitimises an expansion of government authority, conservative policies, and in fact actually anything, because once you've manufactured a 'crisis' you can also manufacture consent (Chomsky) to do pretty much anything you claim to be the solution. Of course, the policies you implement (trickle-down economics?) may actually work to further embed elitism, social immobility and inequality in society, thus worsening the original problems, but that's not really the point is it. The point is to legitimise whatever you fancy doing.
Which brings us to the final goal of all this. Blame. It's their fault. I've read the news. I'm fairly sure the economic downturn was caused by lazy jobseekers and benefits cheats, not hedge funds, banks and deregulation. Unemployment was caused by immigrants, not economic and social policy. Crime was caused by druggies, not hopeless social divide and immobility, cyclical poverty, and institutional racism. Tax avoidance is something immigrants, chavs and gypsies do, not multi-national corporations.
*It was quite amusing watching the security staff around the tent eyeing up the punters with often rather-large joints. They apparently weighed things up and came to the doubtless wise decision that this was the wrong crowd to be interfering with.
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Good post.
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:clap2:
+1000
Surely, if anybody willing to taken an interest and try to see some IMHO objective realisation at work, they should consume more of Chomsky. He's the intellectual that has motivated me most in objective thinking, away from most of all influences we have every day.
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I'm just glad I'm a member of the elite and so don't have to worry my pretty little head about such things
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I'm just glad I'm a member of the elite and so don't have to worry my pretty little head about such things
Too busy snorting fairy dust no doubt. :ang:
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absolutely not
I refuse to use fairy dust because of the brutal exploitation of woodland folk that is associated with its production and trafficking
organic, Fair Trade lavender is where I get my kicks
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organic, Fair Trade lavender is where I get my kicks
Bourgeois wanker - the Bee's used to pollinate the lavender are seriously abused by their employers! Tsk, thought you sympathised with the proletariat. Comrade.
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So psychomansam you're telling me you listened to a free thinker to tell you things a child with an iq above 70 would know?
I like your opinions on fear.
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the Bee's used to pollinate the lavender are seriously abused by their employers!
fuck 'em - they're only bees
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the Bee's used to pollinate the lavender are seriously abused by their employers!
fuck 'em - they're only bees
Its the think end of the wedge Lagers.
First the Bees - then farmers markets will be taken over - and the final step will be Waitrose.
THEN WHAT WILL WE DO!
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It will be anarchy I tell you.
Signed, perplexed of Tunbridge Wells.
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First the Bees - then farmers markets will be taken over - and the final step will be Waitrose.
THEN WHAT WILL WE DO!
you see all those tiny radio controlled helicopters that are being sold fucking everywhere these days?
that's the future of pollination
well, that and my army of robot wasps
previous reference to bees (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,6416.msg149334.html#msg149334)
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serious North / South divide stuff going at at the moment
http://www.thestar.co.uk/features/video-sheffield-henderson-s-relish-taste-test-1-6390772 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/features/video-sheffield-henderson-s-relish-taste-test-1-6390772)
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serious North / South divide stuff going at at the moment
http://www.thestar.co.uk/features/video-sheffield-henderson-s-relish-taste-test-1-6390772 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/features/video-sheffield-henderson-s-relish-taste-test-1-6390772)
Whats Hendersons? ;)
Are they like the Krankies but from Sheffield?
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So psychomansam you're telling me you listened to a free thinker to tell you things a child with an iq above 70 would know?
I like your opinions on fear.
I teach children. Some of them even have an IQ over 70. You seriously overestimate the level of their thinking.
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It will be anarchy I tell you.
Signed, perplexed of Tunbridge Wells.
I had a mate from Tunbridge Wells. He no longer talk to me, largely I think because I'm poor and left wing. I shit thee not.
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:clap2:
+1000
Surely, if anybody willing to taken an interest and try to see some IMHO objective realisation at work, they should consume more of Chomsky. He's the intellectual that has motivated me most in objective thinking, away from most of all influences we have every day.
Sorry to burst your bubble but by and large Chomsky is full of self referencing, illogical, tortious and fact free shite. he's as far from objective or rational as it is (almost) possible to get, although I think Sokal might be in close proximity.
Try reading Popper On an Open Society or some one who can string a sentence together.
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It will be anarchy I tell you.
Signed, perplexed of Tunbridge Wells.
I had a mate from Tunbridge Wells. He no longer talk to me, largely I think because I'm poor and left wing. I shit thee not.
Have you ruled out the possibility that you spout :wank:y left wing drivel that after a while becomes rather tedious?
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Have you ruled out the possibility that you spout left wing drivel that after a while becomes rather tedious?
FUcking hell Tom, my irony meter just just went of the scale and exploded! :wave:
Agree about Popper over Chomsky though.
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Yeah well mate, at your fucking age 'tis the only action you're going to be getting, ps how's the shelia coping with some weather?
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Dream boulder in back yard... (http://www.dpmclimbing.com/articles/view/backyard-bouldering-dream-boulder-smashes-home-italy)
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Dream boulder in back yard... (http://www.dpmclimbing.com/articles/view/backyard-bouldering-dream-boulder-smashes-home-italy)
Can't you just imagine, generations of Vintners; grumbling about the bloody great lump of limestone in the middle of the Vineyard and wondering how it got there........?
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Bad news for watermelons and conspiracy theorists.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/31/sellafield-radiation-alarm-radon-gas-nuclear-reprocessing (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/31/sellafield-radiation-alarm-radon-gas-nuclear-reprocessing)
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WTF. That is all.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/feb/13/ten-level-wheelchair-ramps-shocks-clydebank-family (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/feb/13/ten-level-wheelchair-ramps-shocks-clydebank-family)
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Trans-Atlantic "Free-Trade" Agreement (https://www.citizen.org/tafta)
Not sure how this will work given there are different standards (food safety for example) between either side of the Atlantic. :-\
I'm sure it won't matter though, someone will no doubt profit and thats what counts.
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Trans-Atlantic "Free-Trade" Agreement (https://www.citizen.org/tafta)
Not sure how this will work given there are different standards (food safety for example) between either side of the Atlantic. :-\
I'm sure it won't matter though, someone will no doubt profit and thats what counts.
In loose terms profit is what makes everything worthwhile, perhaps a Cochrane (sp?) analysis would assist?
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Yes but humans have to a great extent overcome the selection pressures that have shaped our evolution and are capable (although not always willing) to be altruistic (with out the need to invoke game theory) to others and future generations. You wouldn't think it to look at the way many behave though.
In particular I take umbrage with aspects of the proposal that seek to curtail green energy policies in the EU such as the US Airlines companies wanting the EU emiossions controls scraped. Its myopic.
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I don't think we're talking about evolution here, more the development in multi jurisdictional systems and controls, I would suggest that the nearest comparator is the development of the practices of the Hansiatic league or the banking / commerce of the Northern city states in what is now Italy.
Andy Popp should have something to say about this.
As far as I'm concerned the 'it must be bad when some one makes a profit' analysis is not only utterly fatuous but also allows for debasement of the debate and the sort of virulent fuckwittery levelled against the 'banksters', which in the not too distant past would be 'Jews'.
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Yes but things like environmental protection legislation are needed across the jurisdictions.
Seems one side of the Atlantic are attempting to impinge on the others on this front.
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I don't think we're talking about evolution here, more the development in multi jurisdictional systems and controls, I would suggest that the nearest comparator is the development of the practices of the Hansiatic league or the banking / commerce of the Northern city states in what is now Italy.
Andy Popp should have something to say about this.
As far as I'm concerned the 'it must be bad when some one makes a profit' analysis is not only utterly fatuous but also allows for debasement of the debate and the sort of virulent fuckwittery levelled against the 'banksters', which in the not too distant past would be 'Jews'.
There seems to be several things going on. First, I don't think evolutionary pressures and altruism are mutually exclusive. In fact, altruism will often have powerful evolutionary benefits - unless you're Ayn Rand. But then she was insane.
Both the Hanseatic League and the city states of Northern Italy emerged before the Treaty of Westphalia (1648) which set the template for the modern nation state. In other words, innovation in economic institutions led advances at the levels of state formation, law and jurisdiction. The same happened in the C19th with the Zollverein (customs union) preceding the formation of the modern German state. There's no doubt capitalism is great at innovation.
As to profits, clearly it is fatuous to say profits are always bad ... but I think Milton Friedman's dogma that the business of business is business equally fatuous and probably more pernicious. Which can bring us back to altruism: profits are best thought of not as the end goal, rather they are means to ends.
On the relationship between capitalism and morality I'd recommend Diedre McCloskey's Bourgeois Virtues.
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What Andy said :)
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Andy, thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into it.
In respect of profits vs non profit (which can but necessarily is, commensurate with the state running things) the point is without the pursuit of profit then many of the wonderful by products of capitalism (as you say the development of law & etc) will not occur.
The counter point is that systems that are predicated on the non generation of profit also tend to be those that don't respect the key components of the rule of law on which profit making rests. The mindless 'qui bono' brigade and the apologists of the extreme left are able to pollute the debate in a way that few other 'groups' are.
Anyway, we're getting close to a civilised and informed debate so I'll have to resort to some mindless abuse, you pre senile old trot.
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the point is without the pursuit of profit then many of the wonderful by products of capitalism (as you say the development of law & etc) will not occur.
Just because things lead to advancements in civilisation in the past doesn't make them right for our current situation. I'm sure you can come up with your own examples.
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Andy, thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into it.
In respect of profits vs non profit (which can but necessarily is, commensurate with the state running things) the point is without the pursuit of profit then many of the wonderful by products of capitalism (as you say the development of law & etc) will not occur.
The counter point is that systems that are predicated on the non generation of profit also tend to be those that don't respect the key components of the rule of law on which profit making rests. The mindless 'qui bono' brigade and the apologists of the extreme left are able to pollute the debate in a way that few other 'groups' are.
Anyway, we're getting close to a civilised and informed debate so I'll have to resort to some mindless abuse, you pre senile old trot.
The problem with that term is that generally profit = money. I'm all for profit maximization, if profit includes all costs and benefits, not just financial. Civilization and technology have grown to the point where the externalities borne by those not involved in transactions have increased disproportionately, in particular the costs. This is one of the biggest issues needed to be addressed by government, but until the general populace on both the left and right can agree on something corporations will continue to use this to maximize their profit. This isn't about right or left, it's back to bourgeoisie vs. proletariat with different names.
Adn don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-corporation. I think they're great, I just think they have more power than they should at the moment. The pendulum has swung a bit too far....
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Exactly! That's my problem with people like Friedman, who thought corporations had no responsibilities beyond maximizing shareholder returns, and externalities be damned. Unfortunately it has become such an incredibly influential mindset, the corporate rationale.
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To expand on why I refernced evolution (was due to leave work & head to the wall earlier which is why I wrote little)...
We are animals and have been subject to the basic law of survival of the fittest which leads to evolution by natural selection. At a fairly basic level this is how we're still playing the same game, businesses grow/evolve too, those that respond to changes in the market the quickest will "win"... in the short term in terms of maximising their profit, longer term the priorities that define what is successful may well change. Humans have the ability to make some educated guesses/predictions about the future based on observing and understanding the world around us which makes it possible to break out of this.
I'm not so stupid as to think that profits are "a bad thing" and should be avoided, as you say Sloper there are benefits as it allows reinvestment. But as Sasquatch has rightly said, its not just about money when you weigh up costs and benefits. There are long term environmental issues that the planet, not nations on their own, have to face upto. Attempts to stiffle these efforts now in favour of short term financial gains (as seems to be part of the aim of TAFTA that I originally linked to) is in my opinion myopic and why I made the slightly facetious comment about it.
The US have for along time avoided things such as the Kyoto Protocol and this TAFTA appears to be in a similar vein.
If as a species we can "[evolve] multi jurisdictional systems and control" that move us away from short term financial profit maximisation that takes into account all the costs and benefits that activities incur then that would in my opinion be a good thing.
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One of my favorite things about adam Smith is his ability to see both sides of the evolution of business. The combination of Wealth of Nations with Theory of Mortal Sentiment make a compelling case for a viable long-term capitalistic society. The problem is that many people follow one(WON) and exclude the other, which is not viable in the long run.
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Good post Slackline.
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It strikes me there is another great thread starting in the last dozen or so posts on here.
PS Andy, I'm reassured to find that you think Ayn Rand was mad but I still worry as to why you make your students read her! :P
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Don't split it or before you know it people will be talking about the Gold Standard and how governments already have too much control over companies etc etc.
Back to some newsy news, a drone video from Kiev yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRKpW8jaBw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRKpW8jaBw#ws)
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It strikes me there is another great thread starting in the last dozen or so posts on here.
I can split it off if people want. Care to suggest a title? The trouble is that it may suck me in, then I'll write a long post explaining how most large companies are predominantly owned by ordinary individuals through their pension and saving funds, that corporate profit is intrinsic to allowing those funds to provide the long-term return that underpins those pensions and savings and that otherwise we'd be stuck in the model that the public sector use for pension provision which is typically based on unfunded IOUs or a ponzi scheme of current employees paying out for current retirees. And I don't want to do that as know the asinine replies that will provoke will push me perilously close to a terminal flounce where I switch off the server and redirect the UKB url to the Von Mises Institute. Just saying ...
Ah yes, so promoting corps is about promoting the interests of the middle classes? At the expense of those without (decent) pensions? I'm not at all sure that's either an accurate depiction or a valid defence.
Economic issues aside, I think the deeper issue is the undemocratic nature of allowing the corps to bully, bias, buy and undermine democratic processes and government.
:wall:
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PS Andy, I'm reassured to find that you think Ayn Rand was mad but I still worry as to why you make your students read her! :P
I teach a course on Corporate Social Responsibility - though it isn't really, more a philosophica/historical perspective on the corporation as an institution. One major thread is around understandings of self-interest; from Hobbes through Smith (Moral Sentiment and Wealth of Nation), through to Friedman and Rand. Rand may seem genuinely insane to many of us but she continues to have a huge influence. She had a major impact on many Silicon Valley entrepreneurs during the 90s and Alan Greenspan was a member of her inner circle for many, many years. If you can get hold of it there is a great documentary series called 'All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace' - episode one focuses on Rand and the dot.com bubble. I'd add I don't make them read the novels (which I haven't read, very impressed Habrich has managed Atlas Shrugged).
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I can't remember names of the top of my head - I'll do some digging if I get a chance.
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All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace
Well worth seeing this, I think it was on the 'must watch' thread at the time.
All watched over by machines of loving grace on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/27393748)
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Thanks for posting, thoroughly enjoyed it first time round. I remember seeing a video by someone somewhere (yes) that deconstructed the Adam Curtis (arguably) manipulative style. But I don't care I love it, as some great philosophers once said
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Thanks Adam.
I don't think its manipulative, it has a position and an argument, one many will disagree with probably - but it makes absolutely no bones about that. Its a provocation, there to be reacted to.
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I don't think its manipulative, it has a position and an argument, one many will disagree with probably - but it makes absolutely no bones about that. Its a provocation, there to be reacted to.
me neither, it stirs something.
anyway, here's that video I think. Apologies if it's the wrong one I can't view tubeyou at work.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bX3F7uTrg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bX3F7uTrg#)
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Thanks Adam.
I don't think its manipulative, it has a position and an argument, one many will disagree with probably - but it makes absolutely no bones about that. Its a provocation, there to be reacted to.
A bit like Sloper, till you use the mute button.
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the point is without the pursuit of profit then many of the wonderful by products of capitalism (as you say the development of law & etc) will not occur.
Just because things lead to advancements in civilisation in the past doesn't make them right for our current situation. I'm sure you can come up with your own examples.
Sorry but I don't see what you're driving at, are you suggesting that for example, the www would have developed as it has without the search for profit?
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To expand on why I refernced evolution (was due to leave work & head to the wall earlier which is why I wrote little)...
We are animals and have been subject to the basic law of survival of the fittest which leads to evolution by natural selection. At a fairly basic level this is how we're still playing the same game, businesses grow/evolve too, those that respond to changes in the market the quickest will "win"... in the short term in terms of maximising their profit, longer term the priorities that define what is successful may well change. Humans have the ability to make some educated guesses/predictions about the future based on observing and understanding the world around us which makes it possible to break out of this.
I'm not so stupid as to think that profits are "a bad thing" and should be avoided, as you say Sloper there are benefits as it allows reinvestment. But as Sasquatch has rightly said, its not just about money when you weigh up costs and benefits. There are long term environmental issues that the planet, not nations on their own, have to face upto. Attempts to stiffle these efforts now in favour of short term financial gains (as seems to be part of the aim of TAFTA that I originally linked to) is in my opinion myopic and why I made the slightly facetious comment about it.
The US have for along time avoided things such as the Kyoto Protocol and this TAFTA appears to be in a similar vein.
If as a species we can "[evolve] multi jurisdictional systems and control" that move us away from short term financial profit maximisation that takes into account all the costs and benefits that activities incur then that would in my opinion be a good thing.
It was (I think) Professor Coarse (sp) who suggested that the model for environemntal law made it more expensive to pay the fines for polluting than the costs of not polluting, which was aggressively applied in the US Courts, hence the categorical difference between the way that waste was dealt with in the US vs the (old) USSR.
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the point is without the pursuit of profit then many of the wonderful by products of capitalism (as you say the development of law & etc) will not occur.
Just because things lead to advancements in civilisation in the past doesn't make them right for our current situation. I'm sure you can come up with your own examples.
Sorry but I don't see what you're driving at, are you suggesting that for example, the www would have developed as it has without the search for profit?
The problem with this is that there is no counterfactual. Didn't the www initially develop as a means of sharing information and collaborating amongst college researchers. I'd argue that the www was exploited by capitalism, but not responsible for it's creation. I think its actually quite rare for capitalism to actually provide true innovation at a higher scale than socialism. It seems to me the big difference is in the post innovation stage. Capitalism has much greater capacity for expanding the scope of innovation, but it could be debateable if this is a good thing. Personally I think it is generally a positive as long as the competition remains. When the barriers to entry or large players consistantly crush/buy out competition, then the average consumer inevitably suffers...
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Good post. I must admit I watched it with a certain degree of scepticism, born of it being one thread pulled from a clearly tangled mass. But as a piece of TV I thought it was great and to be applauded - up there with Meades' stuff. With both I think that there is an implicit understanding that this is one man's view (albeit learned) not THE TRUTH.
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Thanks Toby, that was a really great post - I'd love to talk to you more about your experiences in Silicon Valley one day. Like I said, the film is a provocation ... and it worked to provoke your response. If I use part of this in the classroom, and I do sometimes, then of course I don't leave it simply to speak for itself. We'll also explore the unintended consequences of enlightened self-interest (from Smith), the enormours innovative power of capitalism's creative destruction (from Schumpeter) and certainly we also address the complexities of corporate philanthropy, from Owen, through Carnegie (an enormously complex, ambigous figure) to Gates and Buffett.
That said, I think there are points to be argued in your reply. I'm not sure opinion on the real extent and sources of productivity gains in the 90s is so settled as you suggest and the role of massively increased computing power in the current financial crisis is hard to underestimate. I don't think he really presents a conspiracy theory so much as a picture of mess and complexity.
Still, like I said, great, thoughtful post.
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the point is without the pursuit of profit then many of the wonderful by products of capitalism (as you say the development of law & etc) will not occur.
Just because things lead to advancements in civilisation in the past doesn't make them right for our current situation. I'm sure you can come up with your own examples.
Sorry but I don't see what you're driving at, are you suggesting that for example, the www would have developed as it has without the search for profit?
The problem with this is that there is no counterfactual. Didn't the www initially develop as a means of sharing information and collaborating amongst college researchers. I'd argue that the www was exploited by capitalism, but not responsible for it's creation. I think its actually quite rare for capitalism to actually provide true innovation at a higher scale than socialism. It seems to me the big difference is in the post innovation stage. Capitalism has much greater capacity for expanding the scope of innovation, but it could be debateable if this is a good thing. Personally I think it is generally a positive as long as the competition remains. When the barriers to entry or large players consistantly crush/buy out competition, then the average consumer inevitably suffers...
As I understand it many of the drivers of the development of the web had their genisis in gambling and p0rn as these were the two areas which had achievable short term goals of drawing in funds and operating at a profit.
You might say that print media didn't arise solely to turn a proft, but if we look at the development of print media 9excepting politics and religion which were substantial drivers) the vast majority of innovations were to earn profit or increase profitability.
As to barriers to entry, you will of course be aware of the stringent 'anti trust' laws in the USA (and to a lesser degree in the EU), whether these have be effective as intended or could be more so is open to detabe: however for there to be an effective cartel you need the state 9or a body with similar restrictive powers e.g. guilds) to be an active agent, and this is lacking in the area under discussion.
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As I understand it many of the drivers of the development of the web had their genisis in gambling and p0rn as these were the two areas which had achievable short term goals of drawing in funds and operating at a profit.
Once again, this came in the exploitation(not a negative term) phase not during the innovation. Same as Amazon, EBay, etc.
You might say that print media didn't arise solely to turn a proft, but if we look at the development of print media 9excepting politics and religion which were substantial drivers) the vast majority of innovations were to earn profit or increase profitability.
I'd argue that very few of those were actually "innovation", but that becomes a little bit semantic. To me Gutenberg's press was innovation. Industrial revolution(factory line mass production) was innovation. The PC was innovation. In between was mainly tweaks and exploiting the innovation for profit. Once again. I don't think this is a bad thing, just that to me Capitalism doesn't drive innovation, but is exceptional at expanding the scope of use and exploiting it for profit which is generally a good thing and has been a historically great thing! My concern with it now is that with the rise of massive multinational corporations with the same rights as an individual (at least in the US) there is no governing body that can hope to assert control over these entities. That scares me, and I'm hopeful a solution will be found.
As to barriers to entry, you will of course be aware of the stringent 'anti trust' laws in the USA (and to a lesser degree in the EU), whether these have be effective as intended or could be more so is open to detabe: however for there to be an effective cartel you need the state 9or a body with similar restrictive powers e.g. guilds) to be an active agent, and this is lacking in the area under discussion.
Which area is that? The web?
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Sorry, but if you think that the desire for profit doesn't drive innovation; for example on the web, the innovation that allows for payment via web services then I don't think there's a lot I can add.
As for these giant mulitnationals like micrsoft, apple, facebook google, how do you think they started off?
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Sorry, but if you think that the desire for profit doesn't drive innovation; for example on the web, the innovation that allows for payment via web services then I don't think there's a lot I can add.
As for these giant mulitnationals like micrsoft, apple, facebook google, how do you think they started off?
I can see both sides here.
However, few inventors seem to make a fortune from their endeavours; though many an entrepreneur has capitalised on the initiative of others. It is hard to not see that exploitation as innovation in its' own right.
But then, perhaps as an Engineer, I've just grown accustomed to re-applying the ideas of others to different contexts.
After all, Mr Gates et al, may have developed the PC but they in turn merely (?) reapplied the micro chip technology, that was in itself a reapplication of Transistor technology, that was a reapplication of Thermionic Valve technology, that really did the same thing that a servo fluid system could do, and they were really just reimagined mechanical Governors, that were just souped up....
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Sorry, but if you think that the desire for profit doesn't drive innovation; for example on the web, the innovation that allows for payment via web services then I don't think there's a lot I can add.
As for these giant mulitnationals like micrsoft, apple, facebook google, how do you think they started off?
As I said before, it becomes all a bit semantic, but no, I don't think most innovation is derived from a purely profit motivation. I think it's derived more form curiosity and exploration. I DO however think that capitalism is very good at taking an innovation and broadening the scope of application to the point that something becomes widely available. I think capitalism and the drive for profit has driven down the price of almost every good and service consumed on the planet.
Actually if you look at the way Google deals with employees, you'll see the same thing. They understand that true innovation stems from creativity, and they encourage(almost require) their employee to work on personal projects for a certain amount of their time. Knowing that real breakthroughs come not from a drive to innovate, but from curiosity. From the question-is it possible, can i do that? What google has done, and most of silicon valley, is to take a creative idea, and figure out how to make it profitable. Mostly not the otherway around. If you read about the story of facebook, it wasn't created to be profitable or make money. That came as an after effect. Neither was Google for that matter. Money was not the goal. It came after the innovation.
What innovation on the web allows for payment via web services? You mean credit card usage which was available long beforehand through mail order catalogues? All most companies did was move their catalogue online, and eliminate the need to call in. I don't see that as really innovative. I see that as a tweak to increase profitability and decrease cost of goods. Perhaps if you're talking bitcoin, although it's yet to be determined if that will continue and be successful.
None of this is meant to attack capitalism. Capitalism sets the stage that allows innovation to fourish after the fact. Perhaps its a chicken and egg arguement, and you say chicken and I say egg.
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I do not believe making money in order to consume goods is mankind's sole purpose on this planet.
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Just had to check my calendar to make sure its not 1st April today...
Conservatives re-brand as "Workers' Party" (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/conservatives-workers-party-rebrand)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It's in the Fail! It must be true!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html
😜😜😜😜
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I think its actually quite rare for capitalism to actually provide true innovation at a higher scale than Socialism
I'd be interested to see some examples of where and when this has occurred, I'm struggling to think of any.
I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely interested.
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I think its actually quite rare for capitalism to actually provide true innovation at a higher scale than Socialism
I'd be interested to see some examples of where and when this has occurred, I'm struggling to think of any.
I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely interested.
Russia was in space before the US..... :) Mostly kidding. I've never seen any studies to either prove of refute my claim above, just my opinion.
One of the problems with the whole capitalism vs. socialism debate stems from the understanding of what they aeach are and what countries fal under one vs. the other. For example, living in Alaska(extremely conservative) most of the population here would consider the UK and almost all of europe to be a socialist state. I would guess that most of europe doesn't consider themselves as left wing as the people here do.
Another challenge that has no counterfactual is that during the last 70 years, there has been no country on earth with the resources, or population to grow and develop like the US. (and don't get me started on a comparison between the US and russia) As such a disproportionate number of innovations were US based and therefore skew the whole.
Even so, if you look at the lists of nobel laueates by country, as an indirect means of assessing innovation, there seems to be a pretty proportionate spread amongst developed countries. The US has around 350, France 120, Germany 115, etc... So nothing really shows too much there.
I dunno. Any ideas for how to look at this? I'd be curous and would love to be proven right or wrong.....
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Hmm let's look at the statement 'Another challenge that has no counterfactual is that during the last 70 years, there has been no country on earth with the resources, or population to grow and develop like the US.'
hmm ever heard of Russia, India, China, Indonesia etc All of whom broadly had the population, the resources and so on to develop as the USA did.
I'm genuinely struggling to think of one genuine innovation that ws developed in a socialist system that wasn't also in broad terms developed in a capitalist one.
And also wtf do you mean by 'counterfactual'?
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I'm genuinely struggling to think of one genuine innovation that ws developed in a socialist system that wasn't also in broad terms developed in a capitalist one.
Socialism :clown:
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Actually socialism was devevloped by the petit bourgoise trustafarians in a capitalist system, in fact, in part a couple of miles down the road from my office in Manchester.
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Hmm let's look at the statement 'Another challenge that has no counterfactual is that during the last 70 years, there has been no country on earth with the resources, or population to grow and develop like the US.'
hmm ever heard of Russia, India, China, Indonesia etc All of whom broadly had the population, the resources and so on to develop as the USA did.
Russia was decimated in both population and infrastructure by WWII, and started the race so far behind there was no chance of winning. In spite of that they still beat the US into space......
As for the others, all of them were third world contries at the time, and China ended up with a mad dictator in Mao. Do you honestly think they are a fair comparison against the US in 1945-1950?
I'm genuinely struggling to think of one genuine innovation that ws developed in a socialist system that wasn't also in broad terms developed in a capitalist one.
And also wtf do you mean by 'counterfactual'?
Can you name me what you would consider a socialist stem, and perhaps we can find some? Does Sweden count? What about the UK? Most Americans would consider the UK quite far down the socialist spectrum. What about the rest of Scandinavia?
Counterfactual is heavily used in macroeconomics when assessing policy and attempting to determine causation. Basically it means there is no way to prove the point. In other words, If there were another country on Earth that had the same starting point, resources, and population as the US but had socialist system, then we could make a comparison, but in most macroeconomic evaluations this does not exist. Therefore there is only circumstantial evidence and theorizing, no factual evidence.
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Hmm let's look at the statement 'Another challenge that has no counterfactual is that during the last 70 years, there has been no country on earth with the resources, or population to grow and develop like the US.'
hmm ever heard of Russia, India, China, Indonesia etc All of whom broadly had the population, the resources and so on to develop as the USA did.
Russia was decimated in both population and infrastructure by WWII, and started the race so far behind there was no chance of winning. In spite of that they still beat the US into space......
As for the others, all of them were third world contries at the time, and China ended up with a mad dictator in Mao. Do you honestly think they are a fair comparison against the US in 1945-1950?
I'm genuinely struggling to think of one genuine innovation that ws developed in a socialist system that wasn't also in broad terms developed in a capitalist one.
And also wtf do you mean by 'counterfactual'?
Can you name me what you would consider a socialist stem, and perhaps we can find some? Does Sweden count? What about the UK? Most Americans would consider the UK quite far down the socialist spectrum. What about the rest of Scandinavia?
Counterfactual is heavily used in macroeconomics when assessing policy and attempting to determine causation. Basically it means there is no way to prove the point. In other words, If there were another country on Earth that had the same starting point, resources, and population as the US but had socialist system, then we could make a comparison, but in most macroeconomic evaluations this does not exist. Therefore there is only circumstantial evidence and theorizing, no factual evidence.
re counterfactional, thanks I couldn't get my head around how you were using it as opposed to c.f. & etc
O.k. leaving aside the bit about Russia (they had plenty of people and resources to grow rapidly) & etc let's just apply Occam's razor and say the reason they didn't grow as the USA did was their political and economic system led to the deaths of millions and oppression on a truly vast scale.
Let's deal with the point about what's a socialist system, off the top of my head I would say that there have been any number of examples, from Cuba, CCCP, Yugoslavia, Rumania & etc North Korea to a degree a number of African states, Zimbabwe, India, China & etc
Now I do hope you're not going to come out with the no true scotsman answer.
PS the Russians won the space race 'because their Germans were better than our Germans'
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re counterfactional, thanks I couldn't get my head around how you were using it as opposed to c.f. & etc
You're welcome :)
O.k. leaving aside the bit about Russia (they had plenty of people and resources to grow rapidly) & etc let's just apply Occam's razor and say the reason they didn't grow as the USA did was their political and economic system led to the deaths of millions and oppression on a truly vast scale.
Same as North Korea, China, Etc.
Let's deal with the point about what's a socialist system, off the top of my head I would say that there have been any number of examples, from Cuba, CCCP, Yugoslavia, Rumania & etc North Korea to a degree a number of African states, Zimbabwe, India, China & etc
Now I feel like we're getting somewhere. All of the examples you point to are autocratic states masquerading as "socialist", with the exception of perhaps India. Although that is debateable as well, and it would be hard to argue that until recently it was extremely autocratic.
One issue that gets muddled is most cpaitalism vs. socialism debates is the difference in political vs. economic policy.
I think democracy is a FAR higher inducement to innovation than autocracy, and probably has a much greater correlation to innovation than capitalism vs. socialism from an economic sense. And as I said before, Capitalism is far greater than socialism at spreading innovation.
Now I do hope you're not going to come out with the no true scotsman answer.
PS the Russians won the space race 'because their Germans were better than our Germans'
What's the no true scotsman answer? Must be cultural miss....
Very true....
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I forget who posited it, basically it goes like this (and apologies to the northern natives*)
Jock is reading a newspaper that has an account of a brutal rape and murder, and tuts to himself saying 'no Scotsman would ever do a thing like that' . . . the following week he reads about a Glaswegian committing a similar offence and says to himself 'no true Scotsman would ever do a thing like that'.
In other words you change your definition when the facts don't suit you, for example people saying that Pol Pot wasn't a socialist and therefore you can't equate the murderous regime with socialism & etc
So thank you for demonstrating the intellectual vacuum at the heart of your flaccid and jejune posturing.
* the season of casual racial slurs will end with the 6N.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/26/unite-union-considers-cut-labour-party-fees (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/26/unite-union-considers-cut-labour-party-fees)
My god, where's the I can't stop laughing roflcopeter.
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I forget who posited it, basically it goes like this (and apologies to the northern natives*)
Jock is reading a newspaper that has an account of a brutal rape and murder, and tuts to himself saying 'no Scotsman would ever do a thing like that' . . . the following week he reads about a Glaswegian committing a similar offence and says to himself 'no true Scotsman would ever do a thing like that'.
In other words you change your definition when the facts don't suit you, for example people saying that Pol Pot wasn't a socialist and therefore you can't equate the murderous regime with socialism & etc
So thank you for demonstrating the intellectual vacuum at the heart of your flaccid and jejune posturing.
* the season of casual racial slurs will end with the 6N.
What defines capitalism for you?
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The Mysterious Incident of the Disappearing Book (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/20/edward-snowden-files-nsa-gchq-luke-harding) :???:
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The Mysterious Incident of the Disappearing Book (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/20/edward-snowden-files-nsa-gchq-luke-harding) :???:
Thats funny, brilliant and scary all in one!
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Not the Onion
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140225/williamsburg/facial-hair-transplants-growing-amid-hipster-beard-craze-doctors-say (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140225/williamsburg/facial-hair-transplants-growing-amid-hipster-beard-craze-doctors-say)
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I'm so unfashionable, I'm hip
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I'm so unfashionable, I'm hip
Maybe I need a hip transplant... boom boom..
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When does the revolution start? :punk:
Nice read all the same, even if it's from the 'San Fran, too cool for school' corner.
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Bad idea of the day award goes to....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26387276 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26387276)
:badidea:
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Wow that's proper sci fi horror material right there!
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Combination of "The Thing" and "Contagion"
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On a lighter note this is a brilliant story and a :goodidea: Done for love not money, cynics may retort that he has made some money out of it, but...
Anyone with an MBA would immediately accumulate the maximum money. But I did not want to. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26260978)
:2thumbsup: :clap2:
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I forget who posited it, basically it goes like this (and apologies to the northern natives*)
Jock is reading a newspaper that has an account of a brutal rape and murder, and tuts to himself saying 'no Scotsman would ever do a thing like that' . . . the following week he reads about a Glaswegian committing a similar offence and says to himself 'no true Scotsman would ever do a thing like that'.
In other words you change your definition when the facts don't suit you, for example people saying that Pol Pot wasn't a socialist and therefore you can't equate the murderous regime with socialism & etc
So thank you for demonstrating the intellectual vacuum at the heart of your flaccid and jejune posturing.
* the season of casual racial slurs will end with the 6N.
What defines capitalism for you?
The definition of capitalism to me, is in simple terms the transfer of an asset from a lower value state to a higher one, with less cost than the benefit derived.
Capitalism is not a system of government.
Capitalism has never been 'free' or 'unrestrained', it has been regulated from the dawn of time (e.g. money changers in the temple), there is of course a question as to how far it should be regulated i.e. the sale of drugs, body parts, restrictive trades and professions e.g. law, medicine etc.
I think what you're getting at is what lies at the heart of a society that's not socialist, and the answer to that is, the rule of law and respect for individual freedoms.
Socialism and socialist states are predicated on the loss of individual liberty and the distortion of the rule of law; for example in Soviet Russia, compliance with one law would mean breaching another, the loss of individual liberty should need no illustration.
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I forget who posited it, basically it goes like this (and apologies to the northern natives*)
Jock is reading a newspaper that has an account of a brutal rape and murder, and tuts to himself saying 'no Scotsman would ever do a thing like that' . . . the following week he reads about a Glaswegian committing a similar offence and says to himself 'no true Scotsman would ever do a thing like that'.
In other words you change your definition when the facts don't suit you, for example people saying that Pol Pot wasn't a socialist and therefore you can't equate the murderous regime with socialism & etc
So thank you for demonstrating the intellectual vacuum at the heart of your flaccid and jejune posturing.
* the season of casual racial slurs will end with the 6N.
What defines capitalism for you?
The definition of capitalism to me, is in simple terms the transfer of an asset from a lower value state to a higher one, with less cost than the benefit derived.
Capitalism is not a system of government.
Capitalism has never been 'free' or 'unrestrained', it has been regulated from the dawn of time (e.g. money changers in the temple), there is of course a question as to how far it should be regulated i.e. the sale of drugs, body parts, restrictive trades and professions e.g. law, medicine etc.
I think what you're getting at is what lies at the heart of a society that's not socialist, and the answer to that is, the rule of law and respect for individual freedoms.
Socialism and socialist states are predicated on the loss of individual liberty and the distortion of the rule of law; for example in Soviet Russia, compliance with one law would mean breaching another, the loss of individual liberty should need no illustration.
An interesting point and quite accurate. A neat summation of Capitalism.
It does not adequately address socialism though. There surely exists an "ideal" of socialism which Soviet Russia never achieved?
An ideal which would seem as repellent as unrestrained Capitalism.
And, by extension, we (the UKB debating society) all appear to be huddled around the rather liberal center ground; including you Sloper (on the right hand edge of the center ground, perhaps, but not advocating an extreme).
I'd be interested on your definition on Socialism?
Mine tends to conjure up an image of Ants...
Surely, Democracy, by definition; precludes Socialism?
Is there not a tendency for the Modern Conservative to confuse compassion and consideration with Socialism?
And mistake naked self interest and shortsighted grasping, with Capitalism?
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Socialism is impossible to define, just look at the spats between the CPGB, WRP, SWP and the other fringe nutters, in fact I'd go so far as to say seeking to define it is rather missing the point, what's much more helpful is looking at it's core components,
First of all there's a theistic come quasi scientific belief in the doctrine, this is evident in almost all 'socialist tracts', from Marx through to Tony Benn (his finger post (i.e. him) not changing his views when the evidence changes vs the wind vane who does). This is what underpins the socialist doctrine of the permanency of the state.
Then there's the ceding of personal freedom to that of the state, here we wee equality trumping individual rights, the old analogy as to why this is bad is the 50% eye problem, i.e eye transplants are possible, 50% of the population are blind and 50% have two good eyes, therefore you should enforce the transplant of eyes so everyone is equal.
Closely followed by a very strong degree of legal positivism i.e. if the state makes a law it's law rather than law having to have some 'natural' quality as per Aquinas.
The final clincher is the centrally controlled economy and the limits that this imposes.
The problem with democracy in a socialist country is that the plurality of debate isn't often possible and when the vote goes against the status quo there is anything but a peaceful transfer of power.
In terms of compassion, there's a problem with compassion across the political spectrum in that it causes confusion and bad headlines i.e. a complex subject doesn't come across well in a tabloid headline, for example closing hospitals.
Of course capitalism left unfettered would be less beneficial than regulated capitalism, which is why we have a highly regulated series of markets. If you don't believe this google the FCA and look at their regulatory regime, whether it works or not is almost a moot point, it is there, its highly complex and very onerous to comply with.
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I forget who posited it, basically it goes like this (and apologies to the northern natives*)
Jock is reading a newspaper that has an account of a brutal rape and murder, and tuts to himself saying 'no Scotsman would ever do a thing like that' . . . the following week he reads about a Glaswegian committing a similar offence and says to himself 'no true Scotsman would ever do a thing like that'.
In other words you change your definition when the facts don't suit you, for example people saying that Pol Pot wasn't a socialist and therefore you can't equate the murderous regime with socialism & etc
So thank you for demonstrating the intellectual vacuum at the heart of your flaccid and jejune posturing.
* the season of casual racial slurs will end with the 6N.
What defines capitalism for you?
The definition of capitalism to me, is in simple terms the transfer of an asset from a lower value state to a higher one, with less cost than the benefit derived.
Surely this is to mistake the (sometimes) effect for the cause?
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Yeah that's the definition of a profitable transaction, not capitalism.
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Anyway, what do people think this means for the future of Bitcoin?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26420932 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26420932)
Surely it's exactly what a lot of people were concerned could happen and with no safety net when they're gone, they're gone.....
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Anyway, what do people think this means for the future of Bitcoin?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26420932 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26420932)
Surely it's exactly what a lot of people were concerned could happen and with no safety net when they're gone, they're gone.....
Figured this is worthy of its own thread (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,23807.0.html).
My tuppence is investment is always a gamble, and they've always seemed high risk to me.
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+1 My mate Dave (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-resorts-to-paying-for-facebook-fans-because-not-enough-people-like-him-9180055.html)
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women sues building owners over seagull attack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26533246)
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Me and my spoon
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-26574789 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-26574789)
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It's so French, this story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26436090 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26436090)
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It's so French, this story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26436090 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26436090)
Indeed. Great stuff.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26583314
Personally I'd never heard of them.
Can some Eurosceptic explain to me exactly how retreating from the international community (in an increasingly global world), would benefit the population? I've only ever heard the "we send them so much money " thing and I understand we actually get more back...
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Ooops! (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/luxury-yacht-crashes-into-richmond-bridge-in-front-of-crowds-enjoying-the-warm-weather-9196548.html) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26583314 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26583314)
Personally I'd never heard of them.
Can some Eurosceptic explain to me exactly how retreating from the international community (in an increasingly global world), would benefit the population? I've only ever heard the "we send them so much money " thing and I understand we actually get more back...
The EN are like the BNP but with a smaller following.
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Ooops! (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/luxury-yacht-crashes-into-richmond-bridge-in-front-of-crowds-enjoying-the-warm-weather-9196548.html) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ouch ouch ouch.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fred-phelps-founder-of-god-hates-fags-westboro-baptist-church-is-on-edge-of-death-9195777.html
Ashes to ashes.
Dust to dust.
Scum to scum.
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/Via Oldmanmatt on Twitter....
Theres some right cunts running Job Banks. Like Kelly Blazek in Cleveland (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/27/tech/web/linked-in-cleveland-job-bank/)...
(http://i.imgur.com/bBonE3M.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/71sQ92K.png)
The very measured response...
(http://i.imgur.com/oBaAGMN.png)
And then Ms Blazek, somewhat irronically Communicator of The Year 2013 (http://www.iabccleveland.com/communicator-of-the-year-2013/), decided it was best to apologise (http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/02/job_bank_head_kelly_blazeks_sc.html?xrs=RebelMouse_tw).
I don't envy people looking for work at all.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/max-clifford-penis-size-evidence-sees-trial-jury-sent-out-by-judge-for-laughing-9200015.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/max-clifford-penis-size-evidence-sees-trial-jury-sent-out-by-judge-for-laughing-9200015.html)
Couldn't choose a better person. Piers Morgan maybe.
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If you wrong us, shall we not revenge? (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/disgruntled-online-shopper-texts-entire-works-of-shakespeare-as-revenge-9201564.html) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Grant Shapps is a patronsing fool (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/grant-shapps-bingo-and-beer-joke-causes-twitter-storm)...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/19/1395263806522/b84cceb4-b950-4524-9572-872d33988bbd-460x276.jpeg)
:wank:
Unsurprisingly spoofed already...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjHdcMXIYAIL7l5.jpg)
Create your own at Tory Bingo (http://torybingo.com/)
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Grant Shapps is a patronsing fool (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/grant-shapps-bingo-and-beer-joke-causes-twitter-storm)...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/19/1395263806522/b84cceb4-b950-4524-9572-872d33988bbd-460x276.jpeg)
:wank:
Unsurprisingly spoofed already...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjHdcMXIYAIL7l5.jpg)
Create your own at Tory Bingo (http://torybingo.com/)
Robbed!
Ta.
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Patronising bastards.
Surprised they didn't include racing pigeon food, flat caps and ten packs of cigarettes.
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One of the script writers of the The Thick of It, Simon Blackwell, said that if someone had suggested a Conservative ad like this as satire, he would have rejected as too unrealistic
https://twitter.com/simonblackwell/statuses/446389009154342913
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Amazed The Independent made the same spelling mistake three times on their front page...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdZGcSkCQAARJPB.jpg)
Not a great budget for the people of the future (i.e. youngsters) who don't have any savings.
Where’s our tax cut? ask paintballing sherry enthusiasts (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/wheres-our-tax-cut-ask-paintballing-sherry-enthusiasts-2014032084825)
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There was also anger from people who race ride-on lawnmowers while drinking mead.
:lol:
Less funny is the fact that loads of "them" will still vote for Shapps & Co. :rtfm:
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Very good slackline, though you may find a similar line here:
Iain Duncan Smith _ MP on Twitter (https://twitter.com/IDS_MP)
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http://longtermplan.org.uk/ (http://longtermplan.org.uk/)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26688015
Apparently, the wankers just don't learn.
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Tax breaks for investors in renewable energy sources scraped in the budget (http://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2014/mar/20/george-osborne-budget-kill-renewable-energy-revolution-tax-break) :wank: :wall: :wank: :wall: :wank: :wall: :wank: :wall: :wank: :wall:
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HMRC used anti-terror laws to identify source of leaks/whistle-blower (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/24/hmrc-criticised-mps-terror-law-tax-whistleblower-hodge).
Nice abuse of power there. :wank:
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HMRC used anti-terror laws to identify source of leaks/whistle-blower (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/24/hmrc-criticised-mps-terror-law-tax-whistleblower-hodge).
Nice abuse of power there. :wank:
Shocking, but as per Bolt, when you enact laws such as these, when the devil's wind blows . . . .
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The wrong brick (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/extreme-jenga-whole-building-collapses-after-engineer-took-out-the-wrong-brick-9221143.html) :lol:
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That's funny, but it was clearly that knackered beam that he was smashing fuck out of rather than a single removed brick which made it collapse!
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/10739277/Device-exploded-in-bombers-face-after-he-forgot-about-clocks-changing.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/10739277/Device-exploded-in-bombers-face-after-he-forgot-about-clocks-changing.html)
Be too easy to make a joke.
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Bit late for an April fool...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26857816 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26857816)
Anyone got any eggs?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26864338 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26864338)
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Cameron on drugs (2005) (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-contender-calls-for-more-liberal-drug-laws-6143525.html)
Strange how the song politicians sing changes with their role/power/chances of getting (re-)elected. :wank: :wank: :wank:
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Er...
http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/police-try-to-identify-woman-pictured-urinating-in-northampton-s-abington-street-1-5982783
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Well if you have to go, you have to go!
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It's performance art and Charles Sattchi has paid £800k for the puddle.
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I've been asked to provide advice and information about a form of alcohol use that I've never tried
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/463441/Experts-warn-new-Vaportini-drinking-craze-is-unsafe (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/463441/Experts-warn-new-Vaportini-drinking-craze-is-unsafe)
think I'll just use the story about when Richard Pryor set fire to himself using a similar way of enjoying himself
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I've been asked to provide advice and information about a form of alcohol use that I've never tried
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/463441/Experts-warn-new-Vaportini-drinking-craze-is-unsafe (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/463441/Experts-warn-new-Vaportini-drinking-craze-is-unsafe)
think I'll just use the story about when Richard Pryor set fire to himself using a similar way of enjoying himself
On a Zoology field trip to Portugal the lecturers forgot to pack the any laboratory alcohol for the pooters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooter), so instead we used some of the duty free Vodka I bought on the way out. Worked quite well, certainly got a little light-headed by the end of the afternoons surveying. :pissed:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26921734 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26921734)
:shrug:
Sounds like another delayed April Fool, but probably too bizarre to be made up.
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Bound to be the wrong sort of growth (predicted)
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/08/britain-best-performing-largest-economy-2014-imf (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/08/britain-best-performing-largest-economy-2014-imf)
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http://m.ft.com/cms/s/0/0d15ebae-1f8f-11e3-8861-00144feab7de.html
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/oct/23/london-south-east-economic-boom
Etc etc.
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This programme might be of interest you (in case you didn't see it first time round)http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03xp6x7 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03xp6x7)
Not on iplayer in entirety though so you may have to read round it unfortunately.
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more on the poor quality of education in Britain
http://www.harpers.co.uk/supermarket-wine-price-wars-are-dumbing-down-market-says-report/356305.article (http://www.harpers.co.uk/supermarket-wine-price-wars-are-dumbing-down-market-says-report/356305.article)
somebody should do something
related quote in The Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/wine/10747969/More-than-half-of-Brits-wont-pay-more-than-6-for-a-bottle-of-wine.html)
The fact is, it’s hard to make any money in Britain, but it’s a great market if you want to get rid of bin ends or if you’ve got tanks to empty for the next harvest. You chuck it in the UK’s direction because there they’ll suck in cheap wine
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while only 7% are willing to pay upwards of £10 for a bottle
I bet that percentage is way higher on this forum!
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I find it difficult to believe that 93% of wine drinkers never spend over £10 on a bottle.
What, never ever?
Must be some sort of "per month/week" part of the question or something (which I can't be arsed to check out, but I'm sure that a local skilled up stat merchant and/or pedant will tell me about later)
Or perhaps "wine drinkers" is a very loose term?
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I don't, have you ever walked up and down the supermarket wine isle trying to find something to match your food?
As anecdotal evidence the wife did a come dine with me for her family and matched each course to a couple of decent bottles of wine. Goats cheese to a Sancerre, main to pinot noir etc. 3 members of her family drank their own wine (blossom hill rose, they'd all got the same as it was 3 for £9) as they thought it tasted better.
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Dicking about in Japan (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/07/japan-penis-festival-kanamara-matsuri_n_5106378.html)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/344534/slide_344534_3590996_free.jpg)
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Strange how people change their stance when its them who are affected (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/130000-poorer-in-fees-nigel-evans-admits-regret-for-past-support-of-legal-aid-cuts-9259579.html).
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Strange how people change their stance when its them who are affected (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/130000-poorer-in-fees-nigel-evans-admits-regret-for-past-support-of-legal-aid-cuts-9259579.html).
As I understood it, he turned down legal aid...
This happens all the time, people are charged and prosecuted by the CPS and it is up to them to fight it, this is the basis of the justice system. I fear we are in danger of changing the law based on one man's case because he happens to be a public figure with the ear of the press.
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Strange how people change their stance when its them who are affected (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/130000-poorer-in-fees-nigel-evans-admits-regret-for-past-support-of-legal-aid-cuts-9259579.html).
As I understood it, he turned down legal aid...
This happens all the time, people are charged and prosecuted by the CPS and it is up to them to fight it, this is the basis of the justice system. I fear we are in danger of changing the law based on one man's case because he happens to be a public figure with the ear of the press.
The law was changed only two years ago....
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Strange how people change their stance when its them who are affected (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/130000-poorer-in-fees-nigel-evans-admits-regret-for-past-support-of-legal-aid-cuts-9259579.html).
As I understood it, he turned down legal aid...
This happens all the time, people are charged and prosecuted by the CPS and it is up to them to fight it, this is the basis of the justice system. I fear we are in danger of changing the law based on one man's case because he happens to be a public figure with the ear of the press.
The law was changed only two years ago....
From what to what? Not trying to be annoying, genuinely interested and intrigued.
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From what to what? Not trying to be annoying, genuinely interested and intrigued.
:google: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=uk+removal+of+legal+aid (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=uk+removal+of+legal+aid)
Lots of reports in the press from the last year or so, this ones quite recent...
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/01/how-legal-aid-cuts-are-harming-voiceless-and-most-vulnerable (http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/01/how-legal-aid-cuts-are-harming-voiceless-and-most-vulnerable)
I'll leave any more searching to yourself.
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I didn't know what to google as I wasn't sure which law you were referring to as having changed.
As far as I understand it, the changes to legal aid system would not have impacted upon Nigel Evan's ability to get legal aid, it was a case that he decided that he did not want the representation and once you have made that decision, you can not go back on it once the trial has started.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27007764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27007764)
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I didn't know what to google as I wasn't sure which law you were referring to as having changed.
As far as I understand it, the changes to legal aid system would not have impacted upon Nigel Evan's ability to get legal aid, it was a case that he decided that he did not want the representation and once you have made that decision, you can not go back on it once the trial has started.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27007764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27007764)
I didn't really post the first link on this to highlight his decision not to accept legal aid. Rather that he has changed his opinion on whether funding to legal aid should be cut now that he is seeking reimbursement for his expenses. He is still entitled to do this, but can only claim upto the amount that legal aid would have provided, perhaps that underpins his shift in attitude as he's realised that the changes to funding would mean that he's entitled to less reimbursement?
This happens all the time, people are charged and prosecuted by the CPS and it is up to them to fight it, this is the basis of the justice system. I fear we are in danger of changing the law based on one man's case because he happens to be a public figure with the ear of the press.
Yes it is upto individuals who are charged to fight it, but they are entitled to legal aid. They are now entitled to less legal aid, whether thats up front or retrospectively seeking reimbursement after having been cleared, thanks to the Government trying to save some cash.
If you're found by a jury to be innocent of the accusation bought against you should you therefore remain out of pocket?
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Legal aid has been under serious attack since 1997 (and perhaps before but my date of knowledge only runs from then) and defendant costs orders have never come close to the costs of instructing a solicitor and counsel privately.
The reason people do this is that the legal aid rates are so low (and have been for a decade or more) that it's impossible to properly prepare a trial on legal aid rates.
I know a partner in a criminal aid firm who has recently had his salary cut to around £35k. Now that may seem like a lot, but consider the comparator in medicine of 6 years study then 15 years experience. How much would a medic be on 15 years post qualification.
Ru can, I expect, provide more details.
But yes, the Government's attack on legal aid is an outrage to all right thinking people and at least now we might have someone in the tent pissing in on failing grayling.
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Cuasus belli, look out hipsters!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/15/north-koreans-complain-london-hairdresser-kim-jong-un (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/15/north-koreans-complain-london-hairdresser-kim-jong-un)
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:shrug: :oops:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wutang-clandiscovered-rapper-andre-johnson-severed-his-penis-and-jumped-from-la-building-9265856.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wutang-clandiscovered-rapper-andre-johnson-severed-his-penis-and-jumped-from-la-building-9265856.html)
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Missing boy found in bowling alley claw machine (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/missing-boy-found-in-bowling-alley-claw-machine-9265142.html)
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:lol: Great photo.
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:shrug: :oops:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wutang-clandiscovered-rapper-andre-johnson-severed-his-penis-and-jumped-from-la-building-9265856.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wutang-clandiscovered-rapper-andre-johnson-severed-his-penis-and-jumped-from-la-building-9265856.html)
A cop mate of mine recently had to send someone down to the QMC to see a consultant urologist, his patient had arranged to meet somone on a website along the lines of eunuch.net and the person he met chopped off his c0ck and then cauterised the stump :o :o :o :o leading to the inevitable urological problems. (obviously don't google this website at work or in reality at all)
No doubt there's some deeply rooted mental health issues as well.
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I know a partner in a criminal aid firm who has recently had his salary cut to around £35k. Now that may seem like a lot, but consider the comparator in medicine of 6 years study then 15 years experience. How much would a medic be on 15 years post qualification.
Ru can, I expect, provide more details.
A Hospital Consultant aged 38 (i.e 15 yrs post-qualification) working full-time might earn around £85,000 a year for a contracted 9-5 working week.
D
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Are you really only 38?
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My premature grey hair unfortunately ages me, but does provide me with a semblance of gravitas.
:no:
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HAHAHAHHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/58473/gary-barlow-must-repay-millions-pounds-tax (http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/58473/gary-barlow-must-repay-millions-pounds-tax)
Wanker.
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:shrug: :oops:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wutang-clandiscovered-rapper-andre-johnson-severed-his-penis-and-jumped-from-la-building-9265856.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/wutang-clandiscovered-rapper-andre-johnson-severed-his-penis-and-jumped-from-la-building-9265856.html)
A cop mate of mine recently had to send someone down to the QMC to see a consultant urologist, his patient had arranged to meet somone on a website along the lines of eunuch.net and the person he met chopped off his c0ck and then cauterised the stump :o :o :o :o leading to the inevitable urological problems. (obviously don't google this website at work or in reality at all)
No doubt there's some deeply rooted mental health issues as well.
I suspect things are not as deeply rooted now though :/
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HAHAHAHHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/58473/gary-barlow-must-repay-millions-pounds-tax (http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/58473/gary-barlow-must-repay-millions-pounds-tax)
Wanker.
Brilliant :) Though the downside is he may have to do more work, and we'll hear even more of his 'jump off a bridge inducing' voice on the TV. Probably every other advert will end up being voiced by his drowsy tones. Actually - he could be the new face of Iceland. Ha, how I would laugh....
Does Bono's hat file a tax return?
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(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/David+Cameron+BBC+Children+Need+Reception+HkhhD0_ZdXZl.jpg)
Sometimes words are unnecessary.
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Fuck thats scary. Cameron looks like he's just fisted an elephant and Barlow looks like he was watching and fucking enjoyed it...
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Fuck thats scary. Cameron looks like he's just fisted an elephant and Barlow looks like he was watching and fucking enjoyed it...
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I rather thought it looked as though Barlow was fisting Cam-moron....
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Thats the facial expressions of two people who can't quite believe what they are getting away with
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I cut my nails, are you sure you did?
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Not sure where to put this but I suppose the opening of the 9/11 memorial museum can be considered news, and this is really worth reading......
http://www.buzzfeed.com/stevekandell/the-worst-day-of-my-life-is-now-new-yorks-hottest-tourist-at?s=mobile
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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3 bullfighters nailed in one show (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27513984)
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25 years have passed, and this little man to me is still the baddest, toughest motherfucker of all time.
Hats off to you little beast.
(http://cultura.biografieonline.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/lo-sconosciuto-di-piazza-tienanmen-foto-2.jpg)
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Five years ago The Boston Globe's Big Picture featured commemoration on the 20th Anniversary (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/remembering_tiananmen_20_years.html)
Mostly pictures I'd never seen before, including these showing the lead up to the stand off. He stood there for a while as the tanks approached....
(http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/tian_06_05/t14_19258029.jpg)
(http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/tian_06_05/t15_19247371.jpg)
(http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/tian_06_05/t17_19238943.jpg)
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An Italian journalist (sic), Antonio Madaro, affirms that the guy wasn't there to block the tanks, he was only a farmer who happened to be there to sell the stuff he carried in his plastic bag. Seeing the tanks, he wanted to ask them where they were coming from, because he had been a tank-soldier as well.
What the journalist does not say, is how he heard the conversation between the guy and the tank pilot, how he knew he was a farmer, etc.
Comes out that the guy was one of the leaders of the protests, who escaped and now lives in Taiwan.
Comes out that the journalist wasn't even there.
Fuckin' idiot.
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The font of all disinformation is inconclusive as to who he was or his fate afterwards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man)
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Miao Deshun: China's last Tiananmen prisoner? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-27659475)
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Colorado Sells $19 Million in Cannabis in March: $1.9 Million Goes to Schools and Crime Down 10% (http://themindunleashed.org/2014/06/colorado-sells-19-million-cannabis-march-1-9-million-goes-schools-crime-10.html)
...and Dunkin Donuts expands business in Colorado (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/first-dunkin-donuts-signs-appearing-in-denver-metro-area) :-\
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Who would have thought? Oh yeah, anyone sensible.
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Colorado Sells $19 Million in Cannabis in March: $1.9 Million Goes to Schools and Crime Down 10% (http://themindunleashed.org/2014/06/colorado-sells-19-million-cannabis-march-1-9-million-goes-schools-crime-10.html)
...and Dunkin Donuts expands business in Colorado (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/first-dunkin-donuts-signs-appearing-in-denver-metro-area) :-\
I was going to suggest that the drop in crime would be due in part to a steep drop in arrests for possession/sale of cannabis. But the linked stats don't include drug offences. Almost the entirety of the drop in crime is due to a drop in theft from motor vehicles. Bloody impossible to know if there is any link. Perhaps less kids stealing shit to buy weed. Perhaps a change in the way those crimes are recorded. Perhaps a major police offensive against such crimes. Who knows.
But certainly no jump in crime rates. Which just falls in line with the evidence from elsewhere regarding decriminalisation and legalisation of rec drugs.
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I was involved in drugs & crime research for the Home Office and unsurprisingly the raw data gathered was capable of demonstrating the principle connection between drug use and acquisitive crime was the consequence of prohibition. I was only involved in the Sunderland phase of this part of phase 2 of the project http://www.dldocs.stir.ac.uk/documents/r179.pdf (http://www.dldocs.stir.ac.uk/documents/r179.pdf) here's another data source to give Slackers a wet dream. http://www.nij.gov/topics/drugs/markets/adam/Pages/welcome.aspx (http://www.nij.gov/topics/drugs/markets/adam/Pages/welcome.aspx)
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Went to a talk by Professor David Nutt http://www.theguardian.com/profile/david-nutt (http://www.theguardian.com/profile/david-nutt) last year. Was very interesting and rather amusing when a large number of the crowd 'lit up' - the bouncers gave one another lots of awkward looks but clearly decided it was the wrong time and place to try doing anything about it.
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Good chap and well respected in his field. I don't condone smoking indoors however whether a good cigar or a spliff, that' just antisocial teenage wankerdom shouting 'look at me'!
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Good chap and well respected in his field. I don't condone smoking indoors however whether a good cigar or a spliff, that' just antisocial teenage wankerdom shouting 'look at me'!
It was a marquee so wasn't a big issue, though I'm agreed otherwise. How times have changed.
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Almost the entirety of the drop in crime is due to a drop in theft from motor vehicles.
People aren't nicking weed from cars any more. :clown:
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Colorado Sells $19 Million in Cannabis in March: $1.9 Million Goes to Schools and Crime Down 10% (http://themindunleashed.org/2014/06/colorado-sells-19-million-cannabis-march-1-9-million-goes-schools-crime-10.html)
...and Dunkin Donuts expands business in Colorado (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/first-dunkin-donuts-signs-appearing-in-denver-metro-area) :-\
I was going to suggest that the drop in crime would be due in part to a steep drop in arrests for possession/sale of cannabis. But the linked stats don't include drug offences. Almost the entirety of the drop in crime is due to a drop in theft from motor vehicles. Bloody impossible to know if there is any link. Perhaps less kids stealing shit to buy weed. Perhaps a change in the way those crimes are recorded. Perhaps a major police offensive against such crimes. Who knows.
But certainly no jump in crime rates. Which just falls in line with the evidence from elsewhere regarding decriminalisation and legalisation of rec drugs.
The reason why TFMV & etc have dropped over the years is that there's no longer a market for the stolen goods; i.e. why risk getting done when you're not going to make any cash, and all new cars come with a 1/2 decent stereo (when back int he day they didn't).
The same with dwelling breaks, back int he day people getting screwed for a colour TV, VCR etc was quite common, these days due to the relative value of the product new and access to credit there's no makret and hence virtually no burglaries for tele's & etc
Cheque fruad is now almost non existent, why? Who uses cheques these days?
Capitalsim driving positive social change once again. :goodidea:
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No doubt true, but the statistics reported only compare 2014 to 2013 rather than the trend over time (which would actually be preferable).
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Guerilla growing (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11264586.Global_drugs_movement_vow_to_target_North_East_landmarks_with_wild_cannabis_grows/) :ninja: :2thumbsup:
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I seem to remember a bit of a haul on the MI hard shoulders around Chesterfield, perversely one of the few areas where the police/general public don't often spend their time is at the top of the banking by the motorway.
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Cheque fruad is now almost non existent, why? Who uses cheques these days?
Chris Salmon. Look in your wallet.
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What could possibly go wrong?
It was hot so I was painting the wall in the nude... (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/11/penis-stuck-pipe-improbable-excuse-picture_n_5483590.html)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I wonder if this were to happen in Newcastle on a Friday night whether the response would be the same.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-27814790 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-27814790)
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I wonder if this were to happen in Newcastle on a Friday night whether the response would be the same.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-27814790 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-27814790)
Of corse not!
He would have died of Hypothermia within three paces...
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*course
Sorry to be so coarse.
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I wonder if this were to happen in Newcastle on a Friday night whether the response would be the same.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-27814790 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-27814790)
Of corse not!
He would have died of Hypothermia within three paces...
Right.
Does anyone know why that post tweeted on my twitter account?
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You like Apple don't you Matt? ;)
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You like Apple don't you Matt? ;)
I'd never noticed the "Tweet" button on the tapatalk app (nor do I remember linking the accounts) and must have brushed it with my pinky.
Damn the touch screen!
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Can someboy kindly explain why Milliband has been singled out in this appaling BBC News article?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27829958 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27829958)
90% of the piece is directed against Millipede, with Clegg just about managing to get a slight chastisement at the end, despite the fact that Hillsborough is in his constituency. The Conservative commentator then used this as a reason to describe the Labour leader as weak.
WTF? All the party leaders posed with the rag. Why not slag them all off?
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Can somebody kindly explain why Milliband has been singled out in this appalling BBC News article?
Proper gander perhaps
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It's not easy being leader of the opposition. There is always a conga line of trouble waiting at your office door. You're never far away from disagreement.
Sums it up really.
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It's not easy being leader of the opposition. There is always a conga line of trouble waiting at your office door. You're never far away from disagreement.
Sums it up really.
I disagree.
TBH, this reflects what a shower of shit Milliband has been as an opposition leader. The 'opposition' to this government have had the easiest job of any opposition I can remember. The govt has made gaffe after gaffe, several U turns, decimated the Lib Dem vote, had a raft of unpopular policies - and Labour have completely failed to capitalise.
What a fuck up he has been. I expect he's a nice bloke - has decent values and ideas, but as a leader he's a fucking joke. The present Labour leadership have GIFTED the Tories the next election....
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True he is pretty shit, but doesn't make what I've said wrong.
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True he is pretty shit, but doesn't make what I've said wrong.
Ach - I'm not disagreeing with you say exactly - but often opposition have an easier job as they can just react to what the Govt is or isnt doing.. sure come election time they have to up their game - but they can afford to be more reactive rather than pro-active...
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Can someboy kindly explain why Milliband has been singled out in this appaling BBC News article?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27829958 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27829958)
90% of the piece is directed against Millipede, with Clegg just about managing to get a slight chastisement at the end, despite the fact that Hillsborough is in his constituency. The Conservative commentator then used this as a reason to describe the Labour leader as weak.
WTF? All the party leaders posed with the rag. Why not slag them all off?
Is Hillsborough in his consituency? I don't think so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Hallam_(UK_Parliament_constituency) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Hallam_(UK_Parliament_constituency)) Also Miliband is the one who's made such a big deal about distancing himself from Murdoch and also err Liverpool is predominately a Labour stronghold, that's why it's a dropped bollock.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27681560 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27681560)
Christian fundamentalism in the UK
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What Sloper said....
A lot of Labour MPs (Burnham etc) have been actively involved in the JFT96 campaign and have been very vocal (Tom Watson) in the anti-Murdoch agenda so he's dropped a massive bollock with his own party.
It's also picking up on the "I never read newspapers, I'm more interested in American politics" interview he gave recently.
He looks uncomfortable every time he tries to do something "normal". Worse than Gordon Brown did. A Westminster political policy wonk in every way imaginable.
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Events in Iraq are properly scary... It's going to be a nightmare.
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Events in Iraq are properly scary... It's going to be a nightmare.
Reserve liability has expired, so they can't recall me. Yea!
(Not that an ageing overweight git like me would have much to offer).
That seems like the only moderately good thing I can think of about that.
Shouldn't we do something about it though?
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CAIRO, 15 September 2004 — Arab League chief Amr Moussa
“The gates of hell are open in Iraq,” Moussa said in his opening speech, ” (http://www.arabnews.com/node/255261)
He said it pre-invasion in 2002. And subsequently. It sounds dramatic, but looking at the news, the 250,000 recorded deaths, (https://www.iraqbodycount.org/) I can't imagine this isn't going to get worse and worse. How is Iraq not going to disintegrate completely?
The poor people born there.
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Events in Iraq are properly scary... It's going to be a nightmare.
Shouldn't we do something about it though?
OMM. Doing something sounds good, but that supposes something worthwhile could be done. ??
I'm very ignorant of history but since the partition of the area it's been very unstable if not under dictatorship, surely? Syria - civil war. Iraq - on the brink. Egypt , Libya - internal conflict. And what of Palestine? Containing chaos strikes me as very difficult to do, especially with fighters who believe their death is the entry to paradise.
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Events in Iraq are properly scary... It's going to be a nightmare.
Shouldn't we do something about it though?
OMM. Doing something sounds good, but that supposes something worthwhile could be done. ??
To suggest we should do something about it implies that A. A foreign power meddling could improve things (try looking at the history here) and B. We/anyone is a foreign power disinterested (unselfish) enough to actually achieve what putatively could be done.
I see the first belief as hugely optimistic, and the second belief as woefully mistaken arrogance.
Consider for instance that prior to the last invasion, the pentagon built plans on how to rebuild Iraq for stability. After invasion, this was thrown out and all rebuilding work was given to US contractors, thus further devastating the local economy.
Mrjonathonr points to religion as a major factor and I'm sure it's helpful for morale among their fighters, but I know the evidence in Afghanistan is that the majority of young people being in unemployment (we burnt and banned the only profitable crop) means they join the Taliban just because it's the only job. I suspect the situation in Iraq isn't too dissimilar.
I suspect Sloper is going to come on shortly to suggest we should be looking to make reparations for our last illegal invasion, perhaps by funding some manufacturing there and investing in trade with them?
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I think we may well have seen the end of Iraq as a nation state (albeit one drawn up by British cartographers way back when). Aside from the Sunni Shia conflict - this provides the Kurds with the ideal opportunity to gain ground and make the case for their own state. And why not I guess - they already have a semi autonomous state - that seems to be the most stable part of Iraq...
The ISIS spread is scary - and the stories coming out about beheading of enemies, and other horror stories are grim reading. I'm not sure there is much anyone can do here - if has the feeling that the genie is out of the bottle...
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(http://americasmightywarriors.org/shop/images/Victory%20in%20Iraq.jpg)
:slap:
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Chaos tends to spread.
Doing something does not necessarily mean military intervention Sam.
Neither does it preclude it.
I've yet to hear you suggest any practical (or otherwise) solution to such problems? Do you advocate ignoring it?
Having had first hand experience of the chaos that was Eastern European Communism I have no faith what so ever in such a system.
I also have firsthand experience of the Mid-East conflict having served in Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon (HR), and operations in Israel/Palestine.
I spent most of '90 in Turkey/Kurdistan (pre round one GW during desert shield). Coupled with an extended stint in that sectarian hell that was Yugoslavia (an extension to the Mid-East conflict); the one thing I can promise you and the only thing I claim to understand about any of it, is that we have to do something.
We are always blamed for the problems, but they run so much deeper and we (the West) are just a convenient scapegoat.
We screw up every time we try to intervene, because we are always looking for quick solutions.
No, simple investment won't help. It will just disappear into a very few pockets on it's way to Switzerland.
It requires,IMO, a global paradigm shift.
Start with abolishing Tax havens and secret banking?
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Chaos tends to spread.
Doing something does not necessarily mean military intervention Sam.
Neither does it preclude it.
I've yet to hear you suggest any practical (or otherwise) solution to such problems? Do you advocate ignoring it?
Having had first hand experience of the chaos that was Eastern European Communism I have no faith what so ever in such a system.
I also have firsthand experience of the Mid-East conflict having served in Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon (HR), and operations in Israel/Palestine.
I spent most of '90 in Turkey/Kurdistan (pre round one GW during desert shield). Coupled with an extended stint in that sectarian hell that was Yugoslavia (an extension to the Mid-East conflict); the one thing I can promise you and the only thing I claim to understand about any of it, is that we have to do something.
We are always blamed for the problems, but they run so much deeper and we (the West) are just a convenient scapegoat.
We screw up every time we try to intervene, because we are always looking for quick solutions.
No, simple investment won't help. It will just disappear into a very few pockets on it's way to Switzerland.
It requires,IMO, a global paradigm shift.
Start with abolishing Tax havens and secret banking?
I would suggest that it's the problems caused by (largely Western) foreign interventionism which run far deeper.
I wasn't suggesting 'simple' investment either. I would suggest investment needs to be run from the ground up in the form of small-scale start up costs for small and family businesses, along with guaranteed purchase of goods for export. But that's just one suggestion. There's shit-loads that can be done, if done carefully with real local consultation. But it costs money, it's rarely sexy, takes times and always carries risks of corruption - you just have to minimise that as best you can. No foreign government is willing to do this, because it doesn't earn them anything in return. (Unlike, say, ingratiating yourself to the central government with aid, in exchange for them buying our goods(arms/drugs)/services/taking high-interest loans).
I know it's difficult to get right, but we're not really trying. One of my brothers worked for the government in international development. He basically described the whole thing as a totally self-serving enterprise, a farce. We're just not interested in 'helping' other countries unless we get something in return, generally financially, although it might also be political kudos or an ego-trip.
Yes, we certainly need a global paradigm shift. We accuse these governments in unstable countries of corruption while largely failing to notice that the international system we want to subject them to politically and economically is totally undemocratic, corrupt, immoral and unjust.
Here's the West supporting justice, peace and prosperity in Pakistan:
http://londonprogressivejournal.com/article/view/1313/why-drone-assassinations-just-dont-work (http://londonprogressivejournal.com/article/view/1313/why-drone-assassinations-just-dont-work)
http://londonprogressivejournal.com/article/view/1846/north-waziristan-suffers-a-fierce-bombardment-civilians-traumatized-by-air-strikes (http://londonprogressivejournal.com/article/view/1846/north-waziristan-suffers-a-fierce-bombardment-civilians-traumatized-by-air-strikes)
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One of the problems with Iraq (as opposed to Iran) is that it has not had a functioning civil state since perhaps er ever. A civil state is not something that can be imposed.
The difficulty is that there was never going to be a stable and gradual transition from the Ba'athist regime to a functioning civill society nor was this going to be achieved simply via regime change.
We have to remember that the traditions of democracy and the civil state took centuries to develop in Europe and would be foolish to expect them to be founded in the middle east in a decade or three.
ISIS and their ilk draw succor from the despotic regimes in the region and until those regimes shift their approach to governance these groups are likely to continue to have significant influence. Of all the states that change start to make this shift Iran is the forerunner and we should be engaging more with the Iranians in this regard.
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One of the problems with Iraq (as opposed to Iran) is that it has not had a functioning civil state since perhaps er ever. A civil state is not something that can be imposed.
The difficulty is that there was never going to be a stable and gradual transition from the Ba'athist regime to a functioning civill society nor was this going to be achieved simply via regime change.
We have to remember that the traditions of democracy and the civil state took centuries to develop in Europe and would be foolish to expect them to be founded in the middle east in a decade or three.
ISIS and their ilk draw succor from the despotic regimes in the region and until those regimes shift their approach to governance these groups are likely to continue to have significant influence. Of all the states that change start to make this shift Iran is the forerunner and we should be engaging more with the Iranians in this regard.
Shit. I think we might agree on something here. Good points.
I'd add that one of the problems is that Western nation-states believe that the only route to 'progress' is to be a Western nation-state.
I think a good study of 'The Player of Games' by Iain M Banks (RIP) and 'Dune' should be a mandatory prerequisite for this discussion. :read:
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I was wondering about alternatives to drones
Seeing as they get used in areas of minimal wealth and living conditions, surely it would be pretty cheap to get someone to sell-out their morals and stuff and be recruited to do the killing? It'd probably be more accurate, involve fewer side effects and possibly cost less.
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One of the problems with Iraq (as opposed to Iran) is that it has not had a functioning civil state since perhaps er ever. A civil state is not something that can be imposed.
The difficulty is that there was never going to be a stable and gradual transition from the Ba'athist regime to a functioning civill society nor was this going to be achieved simply via regime change.
We have to remember that the traditions of democracy and the civil state took centuries to develop in Europe and would be foolish to expect them to be founded in the middle east in a decade or three.
ISIS and their ilk draw succor from the despotic regimes in the region and until those regimes shift their approach to governance these groups are likely to continue to have significant influence. Of all the states that change start to make this shift Iran is the forerunner and we should be engaging more with the Iranians in this regard.
Shit. I think we might agree on something here. Good points.
I'd add that one of the problems is that Western nation-states believe that the only route to 'progress' is to be a Western nation-state.
I think a good study of 'The Player of Games' by Iain M Banks (RIP) and 'Dune' should be a mandatory prerequisite for this discussion. :read:
Player of Games certainly...
What would be nice? Genuine, binding, International Law and an effective UN; democratically elected reps (the elected heads of state?), with a multinational enforcement arm (under firm civilian control).
Sorry guys, but I don't find the thought of world Government so terrifying.
Mind you, Election Day would be a bit of a bugger...
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Sorry but I do find the idea of 'world government' terrifying for a whole number of reasons, the first problem would be that the government would be so unresponsive that what was right for the majority would be disastrous for the fringes, the government would be massively inefficient and necessarily undemocratic.
It's hard enough with the EU, scale this up x6 with the disparities in wealth, political freedoms and national identities and the whole thing suddenly looks as credible as me flashing 8A and running a 4 minute mile and sub 2:30 marathon.
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Sorry but I do find the idea of 'world government' terrifying for a whole number of reasons, the first problem would be that the government would be so unresponsive that what was right for the majority would be disastrous for the fringes, the government would be massively inefficient and necessarily undemocratic.
It's hard enough with the EU, scale this up x6 with the disparities in wealth, political freedoms and national identities and the whole thing suddenly looks as credible as me flashing 8A and running a 4 minute mile and sub 2:30 marathon.
Well, this is very much a hypothetical World Government.
More flight of fancy, than remote expectation.
A common law for humanity.
Something above politics or tribal customs.
Something based on an enforceable, secular, set of international Laws; which precluded any difference or lack of political freedom.
IMO this is where the human race will eventually arrive, IF, WE DON'T destroy ourselves in the name of petty National pride and difference in superstitions/voodoo/religion/spiritual/fairy tale believing crap first.
I'd be much happier to see International conflict slugged out in a courtroom, than a battlefield!
Despite previous assertions cast in the direction of the legal profession, vis-a-vis general money grabbing/sell their own Granny/mercenary/Sloper trolling type stuff...
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A slightly more plausible proposition than socialism resulting in equality, prosperity and freedom.
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OMM Something like the UN and The Hague, up scaled... :-\
Sloper. Some sensible comments, till the last snarky bit there..
I'd agree with a lot of what has been said about Genies and bottles and the dearth of civic traditions. Sounds like Iraq security and govt has been tribal behaviours dressed in Western kit.
I think that the worst of all possible scenarios is imaginable: pan Arab Sunni-Shi'a civil war. Looking after your tribe like Maliki has done (apparently) deepens sectarian divisions and mistrust and makes the Sunni population receptive to ISIS's message. If the West can foster a more collaborative outlook in the allied governments (Iraq, Israel) that path might lead somewhere.
Bizarre to think of Iran as an ally but in this context, there it is.
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A slightly more plausible proposition than socialism resulting in equality, prosperity and freedom.
Marx actually said you needed prosperity first for socialism to work.
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A common law for humanity.
Something above politics or tribal customs.
Something based on an enforceable, secular, set of international Laws; which precluded any difference or lack of political freedom.
IMO this is where the human race will eventually arrive [...]
I'm basically agreed with Sloper on this one. If you've read my posts elsewhere, you'll see I think there are options other than nation-states or a global state. Decentralisation, localisation, while maintaining, regional, national and international levels of governance - but in a much reduced form.
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Greenpeace hmm, rather weak internal controls,
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/16/greenpeace-loses-3m-pounds-currency-speculation (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/16/greenpeace-loses-3m-pounds-currency-speculation)
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Chaos tends to spread.
Doing something does not necessarily mean military intervention Sam.
Neither does it preclude it.
I've yet to hear you suggest any practical (or otherwise) solution to such problems? Do you advocate ignoring it?
Having had first hand experience of the chaos that was Eastern European Communism I have no faith what so ever in such a system.
I also have firsthand experience of the Mid-East conflict having served in Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon (HR), and operations in Israel/Palestine.
I spent most of '90 in Turkey/Kurdistan (pre round one GW during desert shield). Coupled with an extended stint in that sectarian hell that was Yugoslavia (an extension to the Mid-East conflict); the one thing I can promise you and the only thing I claim to understand about any of it, is that we have to do something.
We are always blamed for the problems, but they run so much deeper and we (the West) are just a convenient scapegoat.
We screw up every time we try to intervene, because we are always looking for quick solutions.
No, simple investment won't help. It will just disappear into a very few pockets on it's way to Switzerland.
It requires,IMO, a global paradigm shift.
Start with abolishing Tax havens and secret banking?
The idea of the abolition of tax haves sounds like a nice fluffyidea, but when you actually realise that tax is a sovereign issue and it is a matter for nation states how they arrange their tax laws.
Similarly private banking, while I can see a simplistic attraction for states being able to examine the banking facilities of their citizens, given how corrupt and capricious many states are I can see why the principle of privacy is a good thing.
One thing that we ought to do, within the EU, EEA and free trade agreements is significantly strengthen the money laundering requirements on banks and other relgated entities: as an money laundering reporting officer I would suggest that the most effective means of countering tax evasion and corruption is to make the conduits liable + a penal fine for the monies that pass through their accounts and most importantly reverse the burden (as in the POCA) to require the banks & etc to demonstrate that they undertook sufficient KYC checks and satisfied themselves that the money was clean: if they fail, it is deemed to be tainted and therefore forfeit.
The problem with the middle east is the consequence of the oil and the almost unimaginable wealth that it brought, before this, the tribal systems of governance was in many ways adequate, however when the $$$ started flowing the social and constitutional structures were simply too weak to control the extraction of wealth. the location of lines on the map and the religion are really a bit of a side issue.
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A slightly more plausible proposition than socialism resulting in equality, prosperity and freedom.
Marx actually said you needed prosperity first for socialism to work.
It really doesn't matter what Marx said, the simple fact remains that when ever any form of socialism is tried the country goes to rat shit.
Now please, do tel me that socialism has never been tried properly and that when it is properly implemented we'll live in paradise forever after.
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RE: Slopers Greenpeace article
A few friends of mine long since stopped contributing to Greenpeace - their climate change position has seemed just anti everything... a shame as they have a fair amount of clout and with some more sensible direction (read logical for sensible) they could do a lot more IMHO...
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A few friends of mine long since stopped contributing to Greenpeace - their climate change position has seemed just anti everything...
I used to contribute but also found myself disagreeing too much with policies on, e.g., nuclear power, so started spending my money on more useful things like flapjack or going to the Foundry instead.
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A few friends of mine long since stopped contributing to Greenpeace - their climate change position has seemed just anti everything...
I used to contribute but also found myself disagreeing too much with policies on, e.g., nuclear power, so started spending my money on more useful things like flapjack or going to the Foundry instead.
Yes - their utter rejection of Nuclear power seemed to ignore the bigger issue of GW...
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A slightly more plausible proposition than socialism resulting in equality, prosperity and freedom.
Marx actually said you needed prosperity first for socialism to work.
It really doesn't matter what Marx said, the simple fact remains that when ever any form of socialism is tried the country goes to rat shit.
Now please, do tel me that socialism has never been tried properly and that when it is properly implemented we'll live in paradise forever after.
Socialism has never been tried properly on a national scale, but I don't consider it democratic enough to be utopian. As you know I'm not entirely anti-markets anyway.
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Chaos tends to spread.
Doing something does not necessarily mean military intervention Sam.
Neither does it preclude it.
I've yet to hear you suggest any practical (or otherwise) solution to such problems? Do you advocate ignoring it?
Having had first hand experience of the chaos that was Eastern European Communism I have no faith what so ever in such a system.
I also have firsthand experience of the Mid-East conflict having served in Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon (HR), and operations in Israel/Palestine.
I spent most of '90 in Turkey/Kurdistan (pre round one GW during desert shield). Coupled with an extended stint in that sectarian hell that was Yugoslavia (an extension to the Mid-East conflict); the one thing I can promise you and the only thing I claim to understand about any of it, is that we have to do something.
We are always blamed for the problems, but they run so much deeper and we (the West) are just a convenient scapegoat.
We screw up every time we try to intervene, because we are always looking for quick solutions.
No, simple investment won't help. It will just disappear into a very few pockets on it's way to Switzerland.
It requires,IMO, a global paradigm shift.
Start with abolishing Tax havens and secret banking?
The idea of the abolition of tax haves sounds like a nice fluffyidea, but when you actually realise that tax is a sovereign issue and it is a matter for nation states how they arrange their tax laws.
Similarly private banking, while I can see a simplistic attraction for states being able to examine the banking facilities of their citizens, given how corrupt and capricious many states are I can see why the principle of privacy is a good thing.
One thing that we ought to do, within the EU, EEA and free trade agreements is significantly strengthen the money laundering requirements on banks and other relgated entities: as an money laundering reporting officer I would suggest that the most effective means of countering tax evasion and corruption is to make the conduits liable + a penal fine for the monies that pass through their accounts and most importantly reverse the burden (as in the POCA) to require the banks & etc to demonstrate that they undertook sufficient KYC checks and satisfied themselves that the money was clean: if they fail, it is deemed to be tainted and therefore forfeit.
The problem with the middle east is the consequence of the oil and the almost unimaginable wealth that it brought, before this, the tribal systems of governance was in many ways adequate, however when the $$$ started flowing the social and constitutional structures were simply too weak to control the extraction of wealth. the location of lines on the map and the religion are really a bit of a side issue.
WWW: Excellent comments on money laundering and the 'resource curse'.
EBI: Avoid confusing descriptive and normative statements (in the case of tax sovereignty).
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A slightly more plausible proposition than socialism resulting in equality, prosperity and freedom.
Marx actually said you needed prosperity first for socialism to work.
It really doesn't matter what Marx said, the simple fact remains that when ever any form of socialism is tried the country goes to rat shit.
Now please, do tel me that socialism has never been tried properly and that when it is properly implemented we'll live in paradise forever after.
Socialism has never been tried properly on a national scale, but I don't consider it democratic enough to be utopian. As you know I'm not entirely anti-markets anyway.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Bizarre to think of Iran as an ally but in this context, there it is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27882932 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27882932)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvcOcv9wcA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvcOcv9wcA)
Christian fundamentalism in UK schools again. This time mainly focussing on them teaching that the earth is 6000 years old and that evolution has been disproved by science. Yes. You did read that sentence correctly.
Actually, the 'debate' is pretty dire and the video section before it was much better. Starts at 26:26 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b047bxcj/newsnight-16062014 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b047bxcj/newsnight-16062014)
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Ed Miliband is now more unpopular than Nick Clegg.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/17/ed-miliband-nick-clegg-fall-lowest-popularity-guardian-icm (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jun/17/ed-miliband-nick-clegg-fall-lowest-popularity-guardian-icm)
PS I do lvoe the idea of Labour parachuting Westminster nerds and the 'friends and relations' of Labour grandees into marginal seats, that's going to end well. :chair:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvcOcv9wcA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvcOcv9wcA)
Christian fundamentalism in UK schools again. This time mainly focussing on them teaching that the earth is 6000 years old and that evolution has been disproved by science. Yes. You did read that sentence correctly.
Actually, the 'debate' is pretty dire and the video section before it was much better. Starts at 26:26 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b047bxcj/newsnight-16062014 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b047bxcj/newsnight-16062014)
My colleagues wife is a teacher in N.Doncaster - and there is a school in (nearishby) Thorne which is a new creationist free school. All science staff appointed have to sign to the effect that they will not teach evolution or anything alluding to it...
I'm at a loss as to how (somehow) taxpayers are footing a chunk of this bill...
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Well they're overtly not Creationist despite past accusations. If they can be shown to be creationist then they'll be in deep shit. And I'd like to see a copy of those contracts as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvcOcv9wcA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LvcOcv9wcA)
Christian fundamentalism in UK schools again. This time mainly focussing on them teaching that the earth is 6000 years old and that evolution has been disproved by science. Yes. You did read that sentence correctly.
Actually, the 'debate' is pretty dire and the video section before it was much better. Starts at 26:26 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b047bxcj/newsnight-16062014 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b047bxcj/newsnight-16062014)
Fucking outrage, and another part of Labour's glorious legacy (remember Blair declining to criticise this as 'more choice is good'? I paraphrase) that this government have allowed this to continue is a stain on their reputation and a serious debit against all they have achieved.
My colleagues wife is a teacher in N.Doncaster - and there is a school in (nearishby) Thorne which is a new creationist free school. All science staff appointed have to sign to the effect that they will not teach evolution or anything alluding to it...
I'm at a loss as to how (somehow) taxpayers are footing a chunk of this bill...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-27889343 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-27889343)
some of your licence fee paid for that to be written
:shrug:
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some of your licence fee paid for that to be written
:shrug:
Don't be down on the G's, its about the World Cup.
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Cutting benefits for the yoof; good news.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27911518 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27911518)
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Don't fret Sloper in due course they'll be raiding your pension fund when they eventually gain their feet and the levers of power relinquished by our generation. In the long run they'll be all right, Jack.
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Labour did that last time around too.
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50,000 people demonstrating in London yesterday against continued austerity. Not a single peep from the BBC/ITV/Sky News (and the march starting outside the BBC London offices).
http://rt.com/news/167532-uk-anti-austerity-march/ (http://rt.com/news/167532-uk-anti-austerity-march/)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/21/russell-brand-revolution_n_5518215.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/21/russell-brand-revolution_n_5518215.html)
UK: Russell Brand calls for "revolution" during anti-austerity protest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrp7n2NyEz0#noexternalembed-ws)
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Labour did that last time around too.
Yeah Brown lost me completely at that moment.
No time for retires to respond to moving the goalposts. Immoral, frankly.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-student-rescued-giant-vagina-sculpture-germany (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-student-rescued-giant-vagina-sculpture-germany)
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don't mess with The Transport Police
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/video-police-arrest-protest-pensioners-1-6689635 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/video-police-arrest-protest-pensioners-1-6689635)
I bet the protesters also steal our BBC resources by not having a TV (and hence license), but still listening to radio 4
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Our Prime Minister certainly knows how to tap in to communications expertise:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/24/andy-coulson-rebekah-brooks-phone-hacking-trial (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/24/andy-coulson-rebekah-brooks-phone-hacking-trial)
Doubt he'll be directing much now.
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A lamentable error of Judgment. Coulson should never have been hired, not because of the questions over 'phone hacking but because someone who was an editor at TNOTW should never be allowed near the levers of government (although to be fair both he and Alistair Campbell who arguably was a more malign influence) were both bloody good at their jobs.
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don't mess with The Transport Police
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/video-police-arrest-protest-pensioners-1-6689635 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/video-police-arrest-protest-pensioners-1-6689635)
I bet the protesters also steal our BBC resources by not having a TV (and hence license), but still listening to radio 4
Star reporter threatened with arrest under "anti-terrorism" laws (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/24/sheffield-reporter-arrest-anti-terrorism-laws)
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When you enact draconain and poorly drafted legislation you cannot be surprised when it is misused, another legacy of Labour's authoritarian streak.
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When you enact draconain and poorly drafted legislation you cannot be surprised when it is misused, another legacy of Labour's authoritarian streak.
Why haven't those liberal Tories repelled the law then I wonder? :-\
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They have repealled a number of Labour's anti-terror provisions from the 2001 Anti Terrorism and Security Act 2011, Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (detention without charge, control orders and other bits & bobs) and also the ID Cards Act and declined to renew Orders (amounting to the same as a repeal).
Labour passed a criminal Justice / Terrorism bill almost every other week (slight hyperbole) and upicking things is not particularly easy and requires a good deal of Parliamentary time.
The direction of travel is clearl however, Labour enact repressive laws and the Tories tend to repeal them / introduce laws such as PACE (a central provision of which was removed by SOCAPA 2005 by Labour). The only arguable exception is the 1994 Criminal Justice & Public Order Act which is a curate's egg of an Act.
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So they've repealled the anti terror laws designed to protect us from terrorist attacks? while being found to be in bed with dodgy reporters and snoopers?
Remind me again how this looks bad for labour Sloper?
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Fortunately we have libertarians like Dr Fox to help us roll back Labour control-freakery.
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So they've repealled the anti terror laws designed to protect us from terrorist attacks? while being found to be in bed with dodgy reporters and snoopers?
Remind me again how this looks bad for labour Sloper?
It's not bad for Labour at all, it's bad for Cameron and the Tories (and rightly so) as for the rest of the whataboutery grow up and get a sense of perspective, compared with complicity in rendition and torture, the illegal invasion of Iraq (and the sexed up dossier) the gross infringements on civil liberties this bunch of incompetent fuck monkeys cannot hold a candle to the 13 years of Labour.
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I like it, a double negative. In admitting your side have managed to score an own goal or two, you imply the other side sold the match.
At this rate you will be standing as the Labour candidate for Bolsover in 2020.
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I'd stand in Bolsover for the Tories (it would be fun and I'd probably get a fight out of it too) as I expect Denis and I would get on rather well over a pint and a game of crib in the miner's welfare.
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I may be slightly pissed or are you starting to melloew
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FFS sloper don't go lecturing other people on their sense of perspective, are you the pot or am I the kettle?
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Daily Mash summarises Coulson / Brooks verdict.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/jury-asked-if-it-could-find-coulson-ultra-guilty-2014062487953 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/jury-asked-if-it-could-find-coulson-ultra-guilty-2014062487953)
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Anyone fancy a wager on sentence? I'd say that we're talking say 4 as a starter, add a bit for volume & abuse of position of trust, not pleading at an early stage then reduction for previous good character, 3 as a sentence?
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Ian Duncan Smith comes in for some stick from Glenda Jackson....
Glenda Jackson's speech about Iain Duncan Smith and the DWP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jckm3X5MXo#ws)
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Serious Fraud Office fined £660k for £4m VAT overclaim. Yes really.
http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/article/serious-fraud-office-fined-reclaiming-wrong-vat/560731 (http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/article/serious-fraud-office-fined-reclaiming-wrong-vat/560731)
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Anyone fancy a wager on sentence? I'd say that we're talking say 4 as a starter, add a bit for volume & abuse of position of trust, not pleading at an early stage then reduction for previous good character, 3 as a sentence?
Looks like you were out.. 18 months..
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Surprised at that one! He'll serve what about 8 months, but his reputation is trashed for ever.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/08/south-dakota-man-dies-hotdog-contest (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/08/south-dakota-man-dies-hotdog-contest)
lost for words.
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Check out the bloke behind the god botherer, it looks like he's still on one from about 1992. :dance1:
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Data Retention Law to be sneaked through Parliament/Lords (https://medium.com/@tom_watson/22c3136de17c)
The EU rules against existing laws so they try and introduce new ones that are no better. :wank: A little more information on how "events in Syria and Iraq demonstrate (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28237111)" would be pertinent because I don't see how holding everyones communications has any bearing with perhaps a small 0.0001% of the population who are likely already being monitored already.
So much for democracy and the right to a private life. Politics and politicians really is/are a huge pile of steaming :shit:
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FFS Tom Watson, you do know about Tom and his engagments behind the scenes don't you?
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I don't need to.
A bill is being passed, quickly and without the same time being heard in the houses because previous laws were found by the EU to be unlawful. Doesn't seem very democratic to me, and I disagree with the need to mass-monitor the population in the first place. The spectre of terrorism is massively over-hyped and the way it is handled is a massive inconvenience and intrusion of privacy to 99.999% of the population (heightened airport security being the latest manifestation).
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Do you understand how democracy works?
I too have grave concerns about the mass retention of data and instrusive surveillence and entirely agree that the threat of terrorism is massively over stated (although not hyped like under the last government) with fuckwitted over reactions as a consequence (for example I've seen a 3 year old removed from her parents and patted down at the airport, with the child becoming very distressed as a consequence).
However the response to the Court's ruling is a standard one and it raises no new issues and in fact allows for a considered debate which, but for the emergency legislation could not occur.
So, cool your boots man, there's no conspiracy here.
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At no point have I mentioned that its a 'conspiracy'.
A bill is being pushed through without MPs having a suitable amount of time to read and understand it. This does not appear to me to be very democratic, particularly given the implications of the bill and its contradiction to the previous EU ruling on the nature of its content and in light of the fact that several ISPs are looking to take GCHQ and the Foreign Office to court over surveillance (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/02/isp-gchq-mass-surveillance-privacy-court-claim).
The only saving grace is that it will elapse in 2016, but I expect the fuckwits won't be able to have sorted anything by then so will likely push through some other temporary stop-gap measure.
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thus it was ever so, the Official Secrets Act 1911 went through in a day, I can't remember the number of one day bills that have been forced through but it's not an unheard of event and is usually a bill that all sides of the house agree on.
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At no point have I mentioned that its a 'conspiracy'.
A bill is being pushed through without MPs having a suitable amount of time to read and understand it. This does not appear to me to be very democratic, particularly given the implications of the bill and its contradiction to the previous EU ruling on the nature of its content and in light of the fact that several ISPs are looking to take GCHQ and the Foreign Office to court over surveillance (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/02/isp-gchq-mass-surveillance-privacy-court-claim).
The only saving grace is that it will elapse in 2016, but I expect the fuckwits won't be able to have sorted anything by then so will likely push through some other temporary stop-gap measure.
Assuming the data is collected.
How useful could it actually be?
The sheer volume would be mind boggling.
It would be retained by the ISP and not the Gov, and still (presumably) only accessible to them through the Courts?
If this is the case, the amount of data storage is going to be significantly expensive to maintain and the ISP's will no doubt challenge any ruling on Economic grounds alone.
I've always wondered about the reality of mass surveillance. If the NSA/CIA/FBI et al are really listening in on everyone's phone calls and reading everyone one's mail in the US; good luck to them! Last I heard the population was circa 300M. So there must be a considerable number of analysts being admitted to Mental Health Institutions, muttering about how much pr0n the world watches and the number of recipes for Apple pie and how many people have won the Nigerian lottery...
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Except its done through algorithms not analysts.
No doubt there is a high false positive rate.
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Except its done through algorithms not analysts.
No doubt there is a high false positive rate.
Yeah! 'Dat shit is da' Bomb!
'Cos de Al Qaeda geezers is much to dumb to be usin' code innit!
Machine gun.
Atomic.
A.N.other key word.
I get the point and realised about the Algorithms.
It just seems to be a PR stunt rather than a practical surveillance option.
Again, how is the Gov going to use this for nefarious means? Should they wish to make targeted surveillance of an individual, for fair means or foul; I'm fairly certain they would be able to now regardless of any legislation. I'm pretty sure they do.
Anyone who has read a John Le Carre novel could circumvent any algorithm, surely? A simple phrase, inserted into a spam mail, sent to tens of millions of email addresses worldwide?
Simple pen, paper and a stamp?
Even these forums!
If I write "There is a green leaf in the hair of the lion today", I might be unleashing the full might of the Peoples Righteously Right-Handed Green September Movement.
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Actually should have put the Clown emoticon in that, as I'm not having a go at Slakers, just the idea behind the legislation.
But I'm strangely unable to edit my posts.
And a blacked our Range rover just pulled up outside.
Quick! Give me the Blue Pill!
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They'll be going on who calls whom: i.e. the get one number and then do some cross matching / tree analysis, then they can review the data in whcih cases coded messages will stand out like a rabbi at eid.
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Should they wish to make targeted surveillance of an individual, for fair means or foul; I'm fairly certain they would be able to now regardless of any legislation. I'm pretty sure they do.
Exactly, so there isn't really any need for mass surveillance in the first place, it doesn't add anything to the cache of information on who to watch as there is so much noise and false positives in using it as a primary source of who to follow that its a pretty futile exercise.
But hey, its ok, its to keep us safe so thats ok. :wank:
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Should they wish to make targeted surveillance of an individual, for fair means or foul; I'm fairly certain they would be able to now regardless of any legislation. I'm pretty sure they do.
Exactly, so there isn't really any need for mass surveillance in the first place, it doesn't add anything to the cache of information on who to watch as there is so much noise and false positives in using it as a primary source of who to follow that its a pretty futile exercise.
But hey, its ok, its to keep us safe so thats ok. :wank:
It's not 'mass surveillence' it's the storage of data that when required can be analysed.
For example, do you remember the Glasgow Airport bombings?
one of the ways which they were able to identify the offenders (who weren't caught/dead at the scene) so quickly was the use of ANPR data, they looked to match the vehicles that were within n. proximity of the target vehicle as the target passed ANPR, in that with >xn. ANPR hits for the target so the chance of another vehicle appearing in >yn of the ANPR hits for the target reduces pretty much to 0 when x gets beyond a certain threshold.
Did this involve an invasion of privacy of any of the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people who's car registration was in the same of 1 ANPR hit? No of bloody course it didn't.
Take for example mobile telephone data. They get a suspect Paedo/terrorist/potential Tory identified and obtain their mobile number. They can then see who potential P/T/T is calling and potentially identify other P/T/T's if one of the people they're calling is another known/suspect P/T/T then they can begin to identify a network and if encessary then look to recover the content of the calls. The calls the potential P/T/T is making to [insert innocent purpose here] won't even pass through the first sift.
It is for these reasons that the number of requests for data is so low and the requests for content event lower.
The idea that this data is being accessed on a continual basis and randomly screened is just hysterical bollocks.
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Take for example mobile telephone data. They get a suspect Paedo/terrorist/potential Tory identified and obtain their mobile number. They can then see who potential P/T/T is calling and potentially identify other P/T/T's if one of the people they're calling is another known/suspect P/T/T then they can begin to identify a network and if encessary then look to recover the content of the calls. The calls the potential P/T/T is making to [insert innocent purpose here] won't even pass through the first sift.
The person being called doesn't come under suspicion unless they are already a suspect then? :-\ I'm highly suspicious that this is actually the case, but it would be impossible for me (or others) to prove otherwise, but given repeated "revelations" about nefarious practices within the law enforcement agencies I wouldn't be surprised.
I really see no need for the government to have access (should they need it) to millions and millions of banal contacts about what pub to meet in/who's getting the shopping on the way home/[insert the irrelevant nature of 99.999999999% of the communications that are being logged].
There are already other existing and more reliable/robust sources of evidence for tracking/monitoring/watching/reasons for suspecting individuals who are planning or participating the things you mention. Once you have evidence of wrong doing from alternative sources you then target monitoring of an individuals activities, without the need to mass monitor the population.
There is a balance to be struck and the scale of such activities is not, in my opinion, sufficient to warrant the mass monitoring of rest of the population because despite what the papers/media would have you believe the world isn't full of terrorists who want to kill us, paedophiles who want to defile every child in the world and rapists who want to fuck anything that moves. Rather it is mostly full of normal people like, you, I and everyone else posting on this and other forums who want to go on living their lives without someone looking over their shoulders.
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Resoruces are so stretched that they're not even routinely giving people new 'phones every 3 months. I called a mate by mistake (i.e. I tapped on the wrong contact in my 'hone) and was f*cking amazed he still had the same number (o.k. he's mid office but even so).
Resources will be focused and targetted, and there's no access to content unless a RIPA authority is given, I would imagine that these will not change from the historic trend of <3000 per year i.e. about 2% of cases where there's a data request as such <.00000000 etc1% of data wil never even be considered and in an almost homeopathic dilution of cases will there actually be knowledge of what the call's about.
this isn't about mass monitoring, it's about giving the police / security services the means of (generally) retrospctively obtaining evidence: of course in a very limited number of cases this will also be used as a real time intelligence tool but we can basically rule that out as a matter of public concern.
As for targetted human surveillence, do you have any idea of how resource intensive this is and how impractical it is to deploy other than in the most serious of cases?
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I agree with
Snooper's sorry Sloper's points about this being a source of data for retrospective sifting post-'event', and it being a case of selectively targeting the needle in the data haystack - a needle which can't be found if you don't have the haystack of data to search in the first place.
However - I also agree with Slacker's points about there being a questionable need to find the needle in the first place. I don't feel threatened by any extremist group. I grew up when the IRA were bombing Warrington and other UK cities, and I served for a total of 6 years out of 10 in N.Ireland. Life in the UK today feels far more peaceful then during the 80s and 90s when bombings on the mainland were (close to) annual events.
Is that a result of terror groups being stopped before they act? Perhaps partly yes. But I'm skeptical that there's any more threat today than there ever used to be. I also feel we're far more scared today than we used to be. It's horrible but true that if you experience bad events it produces a culture of resilience to those events. (edit) I think the opposite is also true. Tricky question of balancing freedom verus exposure to shit things like being bombed! (edit)
We've had ANPR for ever - the system was called 'vengeful' in N.Ireland back in the 80s and 90s and was on every checkpoint, ferry port, airport and border crossing. I remember idly surfing the system some time during a tour in the 90s and discovering some suspected people in my home town. It was a system open for use by even the lowliest but-fuck intelligence officer/nco with a password.
It's only natural it should be now used all over the UK.
Same for covert communication surveillance. N.Ireland was the test-bed - where keywords and auto-recordings were first used. Now it has naturally spread to the rest of the UK.
It boils down to 'do you or do you not trust the authorities with this power?'. If you do then this should be welcomed as another tool to be used for good.
Until fairly recently it'd be almost a given that the authorities e.g. the UK Government could be trusted by the majority of its citizens to have their best interests at the heart of what they do.
But today, given what's gone before during the last 15 years including - but not limited to - the starting of wars on extremely spurious grounds and lying to the public about those grounds, and the constant exposure of corrupt practice by people in positions of authority, I don't feel it's as much of a given anymore that the establishment can always be trusted to have our best interests at heart.
I'm not skeptical of the intentions of most people in Government, but I am skeptical that there exists a small % who could use certain powers, such as these recent surveillance tools, for nefarious means. And history shows it doesn't take much for things to get out of control - Stazi in Eastern Europe, Argentina and various other countries. Back then they didn't have the powerful surveillance tools that exist today.
It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that events in the UK could lead to an authoritarian government suppressing dissent, and using data surveillance as one its tools of suppression.
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As for targetted human surveillence, do you have any idea of how resource intensive this is and how impractical it is to deploy other than in the most serious of cases?
Yes, as does Pete, ' cos he's been across the water. Even the military would struggle to source enough personnel, suitably trained to mount an op on multiple suspects for any duration; there is no Police force which could.
People recognise others by their eyes, posture, gait and numerous other difficult to describe attributes. The same "face" appearing, even twice a week, would raise the hackles of all but the dumbest. It is therefore extremely labour intensive and impractical.
However - I also agree with Slacker's points about there being a questionable need to find the needle in the first place. I don't feel threatened by any extremist group. I grew up when the IRA were bombing Warrington and other UK cities, and I served for a total of 6 years out of 10 in N.Ireland. Life in the UK today feels far more peaceful then during the 80s and 90s when bombings on the mainland were (close to) annual events.
Is that a result of terror groups being stopped before they act? Perhaps partly yes. But I'm skeptical that there's any more threat today than there ever used to be. I also feel we're far more scared today than we used to be. It's horrible but true that if you experience bad events it produces a culture of resilience to those events. (edit) I think the opposite is also true. Tricky question of balancing freedom verus exposure to shit things like being bombed! (edit)
I'm not skeptical of the intentions of most people in Government, but I am skeptical that there exists a small % who could use certain powers, such as these recent surveillance tools, for nefarious means. And history shows it doesn't take much for things to get out of control - Stazi in Eastern Europe, Argentina and various other countries. Back then they didn't have the powerful surveillance tools that exist today.
It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that events in the UK could lead to an authoritarian government suppressing dissent, and using data surveillance as one its tools of suppression.
We are dinosaurs Pete. Such a trove of possible data did not exist and recording of calls on mag tape? The nation would have drowned under the stuff.
As far as I can see, retention of content is unlikely, merely the general data, for calls. Email is different in that it is a single file, of both.
But my original point about the value if the content stands and Sloper is correct about it's value being principle for pattern recognition.
I don't like it.
I don't like airport security either.
But, how else?
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This is all pretty irrelevant anyway.
As the Guardian expose of the Edward Snowden's leaks reveal the NSA/GCHQ will do whatever the fuck they want anyway, regardless of whether its legal or not. :wank:
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The point about oversight is key and we probably have some of the most robust oversight mechanisms going.
The key issue is not whether the govt conducts instrusive surveillence or other forms of data gathering but the use to which they are put.
There's a sad but inevitable history of states misuing power but in almost every instance this is where there is a lack of democratic systems and the rule of law, both of which are too well established in the UK for widespread malign use of the data stored.
If there is anything to be genuinely worried about it was the local authorities using RIPA to monitor dog walkers, where people lived viz a viz school admissions and the like, but thankfully this pwoer was withdrawn in the early days of this govenment.
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This is all pretty irrelevant anyway.
As the Guardian expose of the Edward Snowden's leaks reveal the NSA/GCHQ will do whatever the fuck they want anyway, regardless of whether its legal or not. :wank:
Yes they will. And as long as good people are running the show I'm OK with that. I'm OK that clever people with the right intentions don't feel they have to pander to every moaning, clueless, citizen smith's needy wants and instead feel they can concentrate on doing what's right for the greater good.
On the other hand, I'm as worried as you are that there seems these days to be an awfully large number of corrupt people and corrupting interests around, and I'm not convinced government institutions are free of them.
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If there is anything to be genuinely worried about it was the local authorities using RIPA to monitor dog walkers, where people lived viz a viz school admissions and the like, but thankfully this pwoer was withdrawn in the early days of this govenment.
But the very existence of a desire to do that, by ordinary people in your local council, highlights how easy it is for everyday nothing bureaucrats to become something quite sinister.
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Robespierre, Stalin, Hitler, Castro and A.N.Other, tired, clichéd, over cited, but real; examples of people/states quite capable of running totalitarian societies without any of the current technology.
Hoover and McCarthy, from the good 'ol land of the free, managed it despite supposed democratic oversight.
My point being, this is not a direct threat to my personal privacy IMO. In fact, where such data is publicly known to be stored, surely accessing it illegally becomes harder?
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@jackofkent (https://twitter.com/JackofKent)(/David Allen Green (https://twitter.com/davidallengreen)) who is a lawyer has pointed out that there are revisions in the rushed bill (read back through tweets), and there is a widening of legal definitions (FT blogpost, not paywalled but requires registration (http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-green/2014/07/11/drip-drip-drip-the-emergency-surveillance-law-erodes-our-civil-liberties/)). Makes several points I've objected to and highlights many more, but primarily, why is this being rushed through now when the European Court ruling was in April 2014?
The key issue is not whether the govt conducts instrusive surveillence or other forms of data gathering but the use to which they are put.
And yet it has been misused/abused as you've highlighted. That may have been reigned in now, but it doesn't mean it won't be abused again (and you could almost argue that its inevitable).
That wouldn't be possible if it wasn't done in the first place, and I don't think the spectre of terror (or whatever other current flavour is used to scare the population, drug dealing, paedo's, human trafficking) is ever as bad prevalent as suggested (NB this is not a suggestion that these crimes are not serious, they are). Rather it is the scope for misuse/abuse which is greater.
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If there is anything to be genuinely worried about it was the local authorities using RIPA to monitor dog walkers, where people lived viz a viz school admissions and the like, but thankfully this pwoer was withdrawn in the early days of this govenment.
But the very existence of a desire to do that, by ordinary people in your local council, highlights how easy it is for everyday nothing bureaucrats to become something quite sinister.
Only if the (likes of the last) government empowers them so to do.
One of the problems with local government is that much of it is almost immune from a change of political direction and hence the instituions are more likely to behave in a manner which they would not if they were likely to be kicked out at the next election.
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More on why the proposed "emergency" Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Bill is problematic...
Clause four of the bill appears to extend Ripa – the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (basically Britain's Patriot Act) – so that the UK government can impose severe penalties on companies overseas that refuse to comply with interception warrants. It also lays out situations in which they may be required to maintain permanent interception capacity.
Clause five then provides a new definition of "telecommunications service", which includes companies offering internet-based services. That seems to drag services like Gmail and Hotmail into the law, and very probably social media sites like Facebook too.
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They also appear to provide a legal basis for programmes like Tempora, the project revealed by Edward Snowden to allow GCHQ to tap into transatlantic fibre-optic cables and stored data.
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Who has not been consulted? Well, MPs for a start. They are being coerced into supporting this vague and dangerous bit of law without being able to scrutinise it.
"Given the need to ensure that law enforcement agencies are able to retain their capabilities, extending the timetable for parliamentary scrutiny is not possible in this instance," it reads.
"Due to time constraints the home affairs select committee has not had an opportunity to scrutinise the legislation."
Attempting to legalise what is currently illegal and completely disregarding the democratic process :-\ :badidea:
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I've oft wondered if any UKB folk have passed into agencies Interest due to repeated mentions of the Tor ;)
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:oops: Meant to link to the article I was quoting.... http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2014/07/14/a-snoopers-charter-by-the-backdoor-one-day-until-drip-is-for (http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2014/07/14/a-snoopers-charter-by-the-backdoor-one-day-until-drip-is-for) /via @jackofkent (https://twitter.com/JackofKent/status/488618197419958274)
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Why the Human Rights Act gets a bad press.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-28291662 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-28291662)
Note this is a comment on the reportage rather than the application of the law which I substantially agree with and do not dispute that the Judgment is correct.
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Whilst seeking to make some of their practices legal the government seem more than happy to ignore the law as GCHQ indulge in illegal Denial-Of-Service attacks (amongst other dubious online practices) (http://rt.com/news/172724-gchq-spying-internet-tools/).
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Why DRIP (Data Retention & Investigatory Powers) Bill matters (http://jackofkent.com/2014/07/why-drip-matters/) another legal slant on it (its not so much about data retention, more about investigatory powers being changed).
If MPs and peers are responsible law-makers then they should insist that clauses 4 and 5 are removed so that they can be carefully considered. Alternatively MPs and peers should also insist on a “sunset” clause repealing the “emergency” Act in six months (not in two or so years as currently envisaged) so that there can be proper consideration on a non-emergency basis.
@carolinelucas (https://twitter.com/CarolineLucas/status/488813382011994114)...
Pleased to co-sponsor amendment with @tom_watson & David Davis to reduce emergency review period from 2.5 years to 6 months #DRIP
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1. Caroline Lucas is an eiijet
2. a six month sunset clause does not allow sufficient pariliamentary time
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1. Caroline Lucas is an eiijet
You've already made your opinion of Tom Watson known on this matter, but what about David Davis? Is he a twat too?
2. a six month sunset clause does not allow sufficient pariliamentary time
Probably won't be if they do exactly as they have done when the European Court ruling was originally made instead of sitting around and ignoring it until the last minute. I expect they'll do the same even if there is a two year sunset clause as there is no evidence that there is willingness to address it in a democratic manner which gives those we have elected sufficient time to digest and comment on it.
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You've already made your opinion of Tom Watson known on this matter, but what about David Davis? Is he a twat too?
Most definitely.
Anyhow, what has that got to do with it?
Ad hominem nonsense...... indicates failed argument m'lud. Doesn't require great forensic insight does it?
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what about David Davis? Is he a twat too?
Most definitely.
Anyhow, what has that got to with it?
He's one of the people proposing a six month sunset rather than two years along with Caroline Lucas and Tom Watson.
Ad hominem nonsense...... indicates failed argument m'lud. Doesn't require great forensic insight does it?
Whoever let that get in the way of a good argument? ::)
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Slackline, you misunderstand me/I expressed that badly..... it matters not what anatomical epithets we can apply to Davis' character, it's his actions that interest me... here they are positive ones, we agree.
Speaking of actions, look at my next post
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Rejoice! (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/jul/15/reshuffle-2014-all-the-latest-developments-plus-reaction-and-analysis-politics-live-blog)
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Slackline, you misunderstand me/I expressed that badly..... it matters not what anatomical epithets we can apply to Davis' character, it's his actions that interest me... here they are positive ones, we agree.
:oops: I was reading the black & white rather than between the lines.
Rejoice! (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/jul/15/reshuffle-2014-all-the-latest-developments-plus-reaction-and-analysis-politics-live-blog)
I reckon there could still be a use for one of these...
Michael Gove pin-cushion voodoo doll (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/164759623/michael-gove-voodoo-pincushion?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_query=michael+gove+pincushion&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=GB&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=michael+gove+pincushion)
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/038/1/6765398/il_570xN.509212187_odnu.jpg)
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Global Network Initiative* : Open Letter to UK Prime Minister concerning DRIP (http://globalnetworkinitiative.org/news/open-letter-uk-prime-minister-data-retention-and-investigatory-powers-bill)
* List of GNI members (https://globalnetworkinitiative.org/participants/index.php)
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Do you think the the reshuffle might take headlines away from DRIP? :-\
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Wouldn't be the first time diversionary tactics have been used.
(http://i.imgur.com/bQI9L0x.jpg)
Although as I wrote its all a bit futile given GCHQ appear to do whatever the fuck they want anyway (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-gchqs-newly-leaked-spy-tools-manipulate-the-net) :'(
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1. Caroline Lucas is an eiijet
You've already made your opinion of Tom Watson known on this matter, but what about David Davis? Is he a twat too?
2. a six month sunset clause does not allow sufficient pariliamentary time
Probably won't be if they do exactly as they have done when the European Court ruling was originally made instead of sitting around and ignoring it until the last minute. I expect they'll do the same even if there is a two year sunset clause as there is no evidence that there is willingness to address it in a democratic manner which gives those we have elected sufficient time to digest and comment on it.
I have the utmost respect for David Davis but on this occasion Ithink a. he's wrong and b. he's playing politics given the reshuffle and Grayling's disastorous ahndling of the Ministry of Justice.
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1. Caroline Lucas is an eiijet
You've already made your opinion of Tom Watson known on this matter, but what about David Davis? Is he a twat too?
2. a six month sunset clause does not allow sufficient pariliamentary time
Probably won't be if they do exactly as they have done when the European Court ruling was originally made instead of sitting around and ignoring it until the last minute. I expect they'll do the same even if there is a two year sunset clause as there is no evidence that there is willingness to address it in a democratic manner which gives those we have elected sufficient time to digest and comment on it.
I have the utmost respect for David Davis but on this occasion Ithink a. he's wrong and b. he's playing politics given the reshuffle and Grayling's disastorous ahndling of the Ministry of Justice.
If only Ken Clarke had been allowed to stay. He was considered too progressive! Because apparently that's a bad thing.
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Ken is simply far too old for front line politics and represents in many ways the past (not to mention the odd controversial statement). I say that as someone who has enjoyed his company on a number of occasions (we're at the same Inn) and find myself agreeing with the vast majority of his politics.
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Ken is simply far too old for front line politics and represents in many ways the past (not to mention the odd controversial statement). I say that as someone who has enjoyed his company on a number of occasions (we're at the same Inn) and find myself agreeing with the vast majority of his politics.
:slap:
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Tom Watson is an interesting character... I quite like how he deals with things - and I wonder if he's a future labour leader...
MrsTT went to University with him...
I had a 90 min meeting with David Davis a couple of months ago.. he's likable enough, but I'd prefer to relay my overview and thoughts of him at the crag/pub etc.... :)
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Tom Watson simply has too many enemies (and collects them with panache) to be a leader, it's also a shame that he goes off half cock when it comes to pictures of people dressed as nazis doing drugs / paedo scoops when oops they're senior Labour people rather than tories as he intended. :spank:
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Ken is simply far too old for front line politics and represents in many ways the past (not to mention the odd controversial statement). I say that as someone who has enjoyed his company on a number of occasions (we're at the same Inn) and find myself agreeing with the vast majority of his politics.
:slap:
Is that the same as a grown up comment but translated for morons?
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I've always liked Ken Clarke but I'd agree that he's probably better off snoozing at the cricket these days rather than being involved in frontline politics.
Not that this means anyone replacing him will do a better job.
E.g. People happy about Gove not being Education Secretary any more might like to note that Nicky Morgan is a staunch Christian who voted against gay marriage and supported horrible nut case Nadine Dorries in her attack on women's abortion rights.
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A return to irreverence...
There are a lot of dumb people on the internet, no real surprises there, but some are easily duped into thinking Steven Spielberg hunted and killed a triceratops (http://themetapicture.com/guy-posts-picture-of-hunted-dinosaur-online-people-think-its-real/) :slap:
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Beyond parody.
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King's College London, world leaders in business nonsense (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/kings-college-london-business-marketplace-higher-education-managers) apparently.
I couldn't possibly comment.
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HE is a classic bubble and will hopefully soon burst so we can go back to the days when an undergraduate degree was worth having.
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HE is a classic bubble and will hopefully soon burst so we can go back to the days when an undergraduate degree was worth having.
Which was when?
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1758
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HE is a classic bubble and will hopefully soon burst so we can go back to the days when an undergraduate degree was worth having.
Which was when?
Probably, for new graduates about 1990
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Its what he would have wanted.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/jul/16/karl-marx-das-kapital-sold-for-40000-dollars (http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/jul/16/karl-marx-das-kapital-sold-for-40000-dollars)
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HE is a classic bubble and will hopefully soon burst so we can go back to the days when an undergraduate degree was worth having.
Which was when?
Funnily enough it's usually at the time when the complainer graduated.
Apparently about 1990 in this case.
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The early 1990's was the point at which the number of graduates increased significantly rising from 17% in 1992 to 38% in 2013.
The scarcity value of a degree has therfore been seriously eroded.
Whether the quality of degrees as a whole has also been diminished (accepting of course that all degrees and all institutions are not equal) is a matter of debate.
That 50% of graduates are employed in jobs which do no require a graduate degree is an indicator that we have a roughly 50% over supply of graduates.
The over supply leads to depressed salaries and retarded career progression (all other things being equal which of course they're not) and this with the increase in the cost of obtaining a degree (again see above, this doesn't apply to all degrees) means that the demand is unlikely to be maintained.
If you graduate from a Russell group university with a 2:1 in law and do well in your professional exame your chance of getting a pupilage is still very poor c.20% (Ru does this sound about right?) albeit somewhat better for a training contract perhaps 35%.
If you get a 2.1 from Salford or similar the chance of actually practising is about 1%.
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The early 1990's was the point at which the number of graduates increased significantly rising from 17% in 1992 to 38% in 2013.
The figures you've quoted don't support your supposition at all, why should 20% be some sort of threshold? You could equally say that once graduates went over 5% the value was eroded.
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There was some reasoned proposition than c 13% of jobs required a degree hence with slack about 15-17% of the population getting a degree maintained demand and supply with a fair degree of balance.
25 years ago it would have been bizzare to think that even close to 50% of graduates would be working in shops / bars etc (other than as a holiday job when undertaking further study) but this is now the norm for too many.
The value of a degree was maintained with the great expansion in the 1960s as the demand also increased,in recent years I do not think this can be said.
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The right to privacy in the digital age (http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/RegularSessions/Session27/Documents/A.HRC.27.37_en.pdf) from the United Nations Human Rights Council
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Evidence based policy/laws? Can't see it catching on myself...
Did California’s hand-held cell phone ban reduce accidents? (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0965856414001220) (original article, may be pay-walled, but you can read the abstract).
News write-up (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/21/banning_handheld_phone_use_by_drivers_had_no_effect_on_accident_rate_study/)
Whether they were correct to make so many adjustments is likely a key factor that influenced the results.
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What if it was the more socially responsible mobile users who reduced useage when driving and the nutters just carried on texting and crashing as before?
The nature of the penalties is germane, surely?
As is any available data on mobile phone useage at times of crashes.
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Available data is the biggest crux I think.
Not sure penalties actively deter that many, those who are responsible likely didn't use them whilst driving anyway so the ban made no difference. Nutters carry on regardless of law and penalties since they don't give a shit. A small proportion between the two extremes might have been discouraged though.
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Available data is the biggest crux I think.
does this not aply to everything, ever
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Not if you're in government.
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Available data is the biggest crux I think.
does this not aply to everything, ever
Yep, it does, underpins the "Garbage In, Garbage Out" problem and is in part linked to George Box's quote "All models are wrong, but some are useful" (since they'll be less useful if the data is unreliable).
Some things are more reliable than others though. Expecting people to confess to using a mobile phone during or shortly prior to an accident, particularly after laws have been passed making it illegal to use them, means that you're likely to have under-reporting.
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they should analyse the water in the sewers for a more acurate indication of the scale of ilegal phone use
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;)
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I must stop talking to Labour SPADS when they've had a few, it seems that they're thinking what we're thinking.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/23/jobcentres-dont-work-employment-letting-young-people-down (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/23/jobcentres-dont-work-employment-letting-young-people-down)
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Sri Lanka comonwealth cyclists stopped by police whilst out for a training ride on the M74 (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/23/police-sri-lanka-commonwealth-games-athletes-cycling-motorway-glasgow) :lol:
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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/29/the-sundevil-satan-boy-outrage-chest (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/29/the-sundevil-satan-boy-outrage-chest)
The Sun's front page today has got them into some hot water.
Real devil-may-care journalism.
If you'd like to provide some puns, please try not to make them too loose if, er, you don't mind me saying.
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Gaza. This timelapse shows the extent of some of the damage from the bombing over an hour....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/10999571/Israel-Gaza-conflict-time-lapse-shows-air-strikes-destroying-entire-neighbourhood-in-an-hour.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/10999571/Israel-Gaza-conflict-time-lapse-shows-air-strikes-destroying-entire-neighbourhood-in-an-hour.html)
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Gaza. This timelapse shows the extent of some of the damage from the bombing over an hour....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/10999571/Israel-Gaza-conflict-time-lapse-shows-air-strikes-destroying-entire-neighbourhood-in-an-hour.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/10999571/Israel-Gaza-conflict-time-lapse-shows-air-strikes-destroying-entire-neighbourhood-in-an-hour.html)
Clocked this last night, fucking stupid wars :wall: :wall: :wall:
(http://i.imgur.com/H0NSLBk.jpg)
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Fairly standard, but if you ever needed evidence that most of what is called 'news' is now little more than entertainment, fearmongering and bullshit to occupy the proles, see this list of the top ten read news stories on the Daily Mail BBC website.
1: Star Wars name passport rejected
2: Bolt Games slur claims 'are rubbish'
3: Apology over Turtles '9/11 poster'
4: Ebola virus 'potential threat' to UK
5: 'Poo pong' from fields grips town
6: No appeal over Rolf Harris sentence
7: UK to allow driverless cars on roads
8: 'Quantum Cheshire Cat' observed
9: HSBC closes some Muslims' accounts
10: Gaza refuge suffers deadly shelling
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Fairly standard, but if you ever needed evidence that most of what is called 'news' is now little more than entertainment, fearmongering and bullshit to occupy the proles, see this list of the top ten read news stories on the Daily Mail BBC website.
This just shows the preference of the readership, not that the BBCs reportage is focused solely on entertainment, fearmongering and bullshit. That may well be the case, but what you are quoting doesn't show that.
Why should all news be about war, politics, and 'serious' topics?
Anyway, the ebola virus is a pretty serious problem (hope you don't contract any form of hemorrhagic fever) and I was reassured to hear last night on the radio whilst driving to the crag that there are contingency plans in place should it occur here.
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Climbing is good for the cognitive function, Mozart and crosswords not so much (http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2013/08/quick-study-neuroscience?_ga=1.148462583.1311764398.1406164622).
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Now legal to take the piss (and make copies of stuff for private use) (https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/victory-format-shifting-and-parody-clear-last-hurdle)
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About bloody time. Good news.
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tiger-rips-off-11-old-boys-hand-strokes-073006452.html#9OxNzmR
I haven't watched vid, but I'm guessing NSFW.
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Buy bricks. Buy bricks. BUY BUY BUY BUY
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/aug/04/brick-shortage-housebuilding-grows-fastest-rate-2003 (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/aug/04/brick-shortage-housebuilding-grows-fastest-rate-2003)
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Way ahead of you!
http://www.brickpicker.com/ (http://www.brickpicker.com/)
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Way ahead of you!
http://www.brickpicker.com/ (http://www.brickpicker.com/)
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According to Catherine Weibel of UNICEF, speaking to Al Jazeera (http://live.aljazeera.com/Event/Gaza_Blog)
One third of children in Gaza are suffering from shock, there are 300,000 children
According to Al Jazeera:
from Al Jazeera's Dalia Hatuqa in Ramallah:
The number of children killed during this ongoing war has now surpassed that of the 2008-9 'Cast Lead' military operation when 350 children were reported killed, according to UNICEF.
Between 8 July and 4 August 2014 (up until 05:00), at least 392 Palestinian children were reported killed as a result of airstrikes and shelling by Israel aerial, naval and ground forces.
Children make up for 31% of the civilian casualties.
The child casualties are 243 boys and 149 girls, the youngest is 1 month and the eldest is 17 years of age.
The highest number of child casualties was recorded in Khan Younis (116); followed by Gaza City (101); then northern Gaza (71); Rafah (53); and Central Gaza (51).
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Its not really NSFW - but a really sad image of a very small child (dead or injured I dont know) being carried from the rubble. Terrible.
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I posted, then deleted a link to a facebook page which showed what bombs can do to an infant. Having reflected on it further, the link is here. The child, like in TT's photo, is dead. It's very difficult to face what is actually happening. You may not want to see.
Al Jazeera give detailed updates and the Israeli news service Haaretz puts forward a nuanced and intelligent view of the conflict. B'Tselem, a left-wing Israeli NGO provide a critical, pro-peace perspective. Their facebook page is here (https://www.facebook.com/btselem). You can't reach their main site as it has been rendered inaccessible by some unknown agency. They put forward a TV advert simply listing the names of the dead children in this conflict, but it was banned. I expect the names will be on their main site when it comes back up. They deserve to have names.
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You can buy your way out of a bribery charge?? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28656050)
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It's very difficult to face what is actually happening. You may not want to see.
I would say a lot of people would *really* not want to see that, just as a warning. NSFW doesn't really cover it. In general I think it's important that these images are in the public domain somewhere, horrific as they are that feeling of revulsion is something we really should experience at this war (or any other).
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Even if you don't want to see it, I think you should, it shocked me to my core. Shows how fundamentally fuck up the whole thing is. This is in the name of religion for pity's sake.
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In general I think it's important that these images are in the public domain somewhere, horrific as they are that feeling of revulsion is something we really should experience at this war (or any other).
Even if you don't want to see it, I think you should, it shocked me to my core. Shows how fundamentally fuck up the whole thing is. This is in the name of religion for pity's sake.
Thank you both for your comments. I have been wary of posting here on this topic as this is a sport, not political site and this is a very difficult issue.
There are many images like that on Palestinian facebook and flickr pages. Because there are many deaths. B'tselem's facebook page covers atrocities too.
Some argue that this is self-defence from Hamas's rocket attacks which have killed three Israelis recently. Others that the IDF has reckless rules of engagement. Others still that this is collective punishment for civilian support for Hamas (which has the annihilation of Israel in its charter (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/Hamas_covenant_complete.html) btw). Others might go even further and say this is ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
You have to make up your own mind. Personally I don't believe this is about religion. I think it's about land (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/gaza-buffer-zone-dennis-kucinich). It's worth a read.
If like me you want to share your opinion with Philip Hammond at the Foreign Office, you can email: fcocorrespondence@fco.gov.uk You'll get an automated response assuming it's about Gaza, but they'll note your view.
One final thought: please don't assume all Jews support Israel's actions.
(http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/2014/20140718London/big/3-IMG_0405.jpg).
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You have to make up your own mind. Personally I don't believe this is about religion. I think it's about land (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/gaza-buffer-zone-dennis-kucinich).
(http://c1.thejournal.ie/media/2014/07/palestine-loss-of-land-630x381.jpg)
or
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4Qo1uiIBJ9U/TkvMMqhh2GI/AAAAAAAAASo/JG_wQd8U9KA/s1600/Map+of+Palestine.jpg)
or
(http://d1jrw5jterzxwu.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/default/files/uploads/map-3.jpg)
All tell a similar story....
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Any chance we can split the news regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict into a separate topic?I think it could easily generate some interesting debate.
In other news, an investigation is to take place to determine whether Marco Pantani was murdered.http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/sports/prosecuters-investigating-claim-that-tour-de-france-winner-marco-pantani-was-murdered-1.1945282 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/sports/prosecuters-investigating-claim-that-tour-de-france-winner-marco-pantani-was-murdered-1.1945282)
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The stat I can't understand is how does one of the most sophisticated well equipped armies in the world manage to kill 377 kids but only 198 military enemy unless they are deliberately targeting children and/or the places children hang out or shelter?
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In general I think it's important that these images are in the public domain somewhere, horrific as they are that feeling of revulsion is something we really should experience at this war (or any other).
One final thought: please don't assume all Jews support Israel's actions.
I can say with certainty that Neturei Karta doesn't support any of Israel's actions, whatever they may be.
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I can say with certainty that Neturei Karta doesn't support any of Israel's actions, whatever they may be.
No, you are quite correct, they have their own extreme reasons. Perhaps it was a poor choice of photo.
Is this (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/05/jews-protest-israel_n_5651981.html) better?
(http://i0.huffpost.com/gen/1949591/thumbs/n-PROTEST-large570.jpg)
Or this (http://www.alternativenews.org/english/index.php/politics/activism/8376-jews-in-britain-against-genocide-in-gaza)?
(http://www.alternativenews.org/english/images/stories/news/2014/July_2014/UK%20action.jpg)
My point is obvious: disgust at the carnage in Gaza feeds antisemitism. Dissenting Jewish voices should be heard, don't you agree?
Obi Wan: Hamas are mostly underground, the surface is too dangerous. That's why there are no photos of them.
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If it isn't about religion, why are there so many references made to religious groups in the above posts? OK it's not just about religion, but also it's not just about land.
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Sure, religion, race and land are all tied up together. The Arabs follow Islam, the Jews Judaism. Both religions can accommodate others under their rule, but they all need somewhere to live.
Hamas believe the only possible response to a Jewish state is Jihad, until all of Palestine is under Islam. Article 15 of their charter The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. ......“I swear by the holder of Mohammed's soul that I would like to invade and be killed for the sake of Allah, then invade and be killed, and then invade again and be killed.” (As related by alBukhari and Moslem).
And Israel keeps taking land.
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On a tangent from the above (far more important) situation...
Penises, Computers and fitness apps... its perfect for UKB...
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/06/runner-nike-san-francisco-penis (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/06/runner-nike-san-francisco-penis)
(http://i.guim.co.uk/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/6/1407316282085/a842c045-3980-409d-911e-cc9a00d13468-bestSizeAvailable.png)
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There's more where that came from.
http://runningdrawing.tumblr.com/ (http://runningdrawing.tumblr.com/)
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Some stats
http://euromid.org/en/article/591 (http://euromid.org/en/article/591)
(http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/8/5/869174d8-fb57-4915-8ba2-9f0231f8318f.png)
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The Cobra has lost it's head (http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/iconic-rock-formation-cobra-crumbles/)
(http://www.mountainproject.com/images/0/60/2200060_large_b8d941.jpg)
(http://www.mountainproject.com/images/97/70/109299770_large_fe2a70.jpg)
Ancient Art is still available for posing purposes, but for how much longer?
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Sure, religion, race and land are all tied up together. The Arabs follow Islam, the Jews Judaism. Both religions can accommodate others under their rule, but they all need somewhere to live.
Why can't they live together? Don't most religions preach tolerance?
Oh I forget most (all?) think all others are wrong and those who don't follow their choice of religion are damned to eternity in somewhere horrible.
But then you get different interpretations within each, some being tolerant others being extremist.
Huge contradictions on all sides. :thumbsdown: :no:
The world would probably be a better place without religion, even with the loss of the few good things they've bought.
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40,000 Iraqis stranded on mountain as Isis jihadists threaten death
(http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/06/40000-iraqis-stranded-mountain-isis-death-threat)
The Middle East is a terrifying place to be right now.
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Who ate all the Pies?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28794697
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Sure, religion, race and land are all tied up together. The Arabs follow Islam, the Jews Judaism. Both religions can accommodate others under their rule, but they all need somewhere to live.
Oh I forget most (all?) think all others are wrong and those who don't follow their choice of religion are damned to eternity in somewhere horrible.
And deserve death...
But then you get different interpretations within each, some being tolerant others being extremist.
And all being Excrement...
The world would probably be a better place without religion, even with the loss of the few good things they've bought.
All additions to Slackers post are entirely mine.
Part of me wishes that there really is a hell, reserved entirely for the Religious Right Wing of all Religions, along with all the other Paedophiles, Mass Murderers, El Presidente Farther of their People scum that pollute this planet.
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Sure, religion, race and land are all tied up together. The Arabs follow Islam, the Jews Judaism. Both religions can accommodate others under their rule, but they all need somewhere to live.
Oh I forget most (all?) think all others are wrong and those who don't follow their choice of religion are damned to eternity in somewhere horrible.
And deserve death...
But then you get different interpretations within each, some being tolerant others being extremist.
And all being Excrement...
The world would probably be a better place without religion, even with the loss of the few good things they've bought.
All additions to Slackers post are entirely mine.
Part of me wishes that there really is a hell, reserved entirely for the Religious Right Wing of all Religions, along with all the other Paedophiles, Mass Murderers, El Presidente Farther of their People scum that pollute this planet.
let's not forget that historically that 'Muslim' states were very much more accommodating to Jews and Christians than Christain countries were to Mulisms and Jews (and indeed other types of Christians).
The situation in Palestine / Israel and Syria/Levant/Iraq are not questions about the faith of the terrorists but rather a struggle for power and the desire to impose a dictatorship, the religion is basically a side issue. This misuse of religion is evident in Burma and other eastern states which have seen genocidal attacks perpetrated by Buddhist monks and so on.
The poisonous antisemitic teaching in Hamas backed schools is nothing to do with the faith of Islam, it is about maintaining a population who can be manipulated to serve the wishes of the Hamas leadership.
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Beyond parody.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/biometric-venezuela-food-shortages-smuggling-fingerprints (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/biometric-venezuela-food-shortages-smuggling-fingerprints)
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I can't wait to hear how UKIP explain the causes of this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-28918105 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-28918105)
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A minor adjustment?? (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/25/boris-johnson-britons-visiting-iraq-syria-presumed-terrorists)
And what was the purpose of your visit sir? Business or Her Majesty's Pleasure?
:wank:
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Uh-uh:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/25/french-government-resigns-francois-hollande-manuel-valls (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/25/french-government-resigns-francois-hollande-manuel-valls)
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Hilarious, if it wasn't for the harm caused to the French people and economy. Now wasn't Hollande going to show how modern socialism-lite would succeed where Tory bastard scum couldn't (for those that don't want to know the scores look away now).
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/instructor-accidentally-shot-girl-9-dies
'Murica.
'Nuff said.
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I see Sloper's been back au foret magique...ironic he was spotted by a Guardian reporter though:
http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2014/aug/28/bouldering-rock-climbing-fontainebleau-france (http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2014/aug/28/bouldering-rock-climbing-fontainebleau-france)
We even spot one elderly climber enjoying a cigar atop a rock.
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I was in Font in late July and early August and did enjoy the odd cigar on the top of a boulder now and again so cannot rule out the reference being about me. As for the irony I buy and read the lefty primaily because of the crossword.
Overall a decent article, no references to 'vertical chess' or 'cliffhanger' / similar bollocks.
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Boom...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11321930&ref=NZH_FBpage
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I'd forgotten the Antipodean lollies = sweets thing. Bit of a cock up though. Bet the kids were oblivious.
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two things that concern me; 1. the never ending ability of the English to donate to charities to support animals rather than something worthwhile and b the lack of the ability of the guardian to deal with numbers: was the dogs home really the best part of 480,000,000 square feet?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire)
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+1; picture notwithstanding.
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two things that concern me; 1. the never ending ability of the English to donate to charities to support animals rather than something worthwhile
It's that kind of shit that guarantee that every spare cent I have goes to just such a cause Tom, I'd punter you but I really can't be arsed.
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[...] things that concern me; 1. the never ending ability of the English to donate to charities to support animals rather than something worthwhile [...]
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire)
I fairly well agree on this. But the ethical issues it raises when you look deeper into it are deeply troubling. What is a worthwhile cause? Think of all the money spent on cancer research, ice buckets and even children in need. How else could that money be spent?
Rather than 'charitably' funding research into extending our own parasitic western lifespans and thus spending longer leaching global resources and causing misery in the developing world, we could give that money to causes such as water and mosquito nets. Rather than spending vast quantities to help a few children in this country, we could give the same amount and help 10 or 100 times as many in the poorest places. And by help, I mean keep them alive, not just give them a happier childhood. Of course racism, pseudo-colonialism and cultural and religious bigotry are rife. "Do they (the population of a largely non-christian, partly muslim continent the size of Europe, the USA and half of Asia combined) know it's christmas time at all?" Shut the fuck up.
Thinking deeply on charitable giving is an excellent way to realise that our sense of the right and the good is subjective bullshit and far from universalisable, that we are incredibly self-serving, that our empathies and sympathies are bounded to those with whom we have contact and to whom we relate, and that the degree of contact and relatibility largely determines our notions of responsibility. Thus determined, we then use these particular avenues to promote our own positive self-image and sense of goodness and self-worth.
A huge amount of charity is self-serving, self-defeating, feel-good outlets staffed by that branch of the middle/upper classes who struggle to come to terms with just how self-centered and privileged they are and thus try to drown it. And most other charitable causes are a mediocre, inefficient, narrow-minded and insular pursuit of a poorly defined good.
The growth of the professional charitable sector is symptomatic of deep ills in our country.
Apart from that, it's all good.
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[...] things that concern me; 1. the never ending ability of the English to donate to charities to support animals rather than something worthwhile [...]
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire)
I fairly well agree on this. But the ethical issues it raises when you look deeper into it are deeply troubling. What is a worthwhile cause? Think of all the money spent on cancer research, ice buckets and even children in need. How else could that money be spent?
Rather than 'charitably' funding research into extending our own parasitic western lifespans and thus spending longer leaching global resources and causing misery in the developing world, we could give that money to causes such as water and mosquito nets. Rather than spending vast quantities to help a few children in this country, we could give the same amount and help 10 or 100 times as many in the poorest places. And by help, I mean keep them alive, not just give them a happier childhood. Of course racism, pseudo-colonialism and cultural and religious bigotry are rife. "Do they (the population of a largely non-christian, partly muslim continent the size of Europe, the USA and half of Asia combined) know it's christmas time at all?" Shut the fuck up.
Thinking deeply on charitable giving is an excellent way to realise that our sense of the right and the good is subjective bullshit and far from universalisable, that we are incredibly self-serving, that our empathies and sympathies are bounded to those with whom we have contact and to whom we relate, and that the degree of contact and relatibility largely determines our notions of responsibility. Thus determined, we then use these particular avenues to promote our own positive self-image and sense of goodness and self-worth.
A huge amount of charity is self-serving, self-defeating, feel-good outlets staffed by that branch of the middle/upper classes who struggle to come to terms with just how self-centered and privileged they are and thus try to drown it. And most other charitable causes are a mediocre, inefficient, narrow-minded and insular pursuit of a poorly defined good.
The growth of the professional charitable sector is symptomatic of deep ills in our country.
Apart from that, it's all good.
I'm pretty convinced that charity is simply never going to be enough to actually make a real difference to worldwide inequality and poverty. Most just seems fairly self-serving; a good way to fool ourselves into thinking that we're making a difference when in fact we're really doing very little to help people and change things. It seems like the only way to actually help poor people across the world is through serious change to global structures of power and economics, which are based on the exploitation of the poor people in question and their land and resources.
In fact, I'm sure some people might go so far as to argue that charity is an important part of the current economic order. It gives people an excuse not to call for serious change, because they can just argue that charities are doing good work etc, and that given time their work alone will be enough to sort everything out. It gives people a feeling of satisfaction from doing really not that much, and allows things to continue pretty much as they have for years, that is, based on a global system of exploitation, neocolonialism etc etc...
But yeah, I agree that apart from all that, charities are great!
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I'm pretty convinced that charity is simply never going to be enough to actually make a real difference to worldwide inequality and poverty. Most just seems fairly self-serving; a good way to fool ourselves into thinking that we're making a difference when in fact we're really doing very little to help people and change things. It seems like the only way to actually help poor people across the world is through serious change to global structures of power and economics, which are based on the exploitation of the poor people in question and their land and resources.
In fact, I'm sure some people might go so far as to argue that charity is an important part of the current economic order. It gives people an excuse not to call for serious change, because they can just argue that charities are doing good work etc, and that given time their work alone will be enough to sort everything out. It gives people a feeling of satisfaction from doing really not that much, and allows things to continue pretty much as they have for years, that is, based on a global system of exploitation, neocolonialism etc etc...
But yeah, I agree that apart from all that, charities are great!
+1 to the above. I've had some interesting conversations with a relative who's done a lot of voluntary work, trying to do good, about the way in which a lot of charities, particularly larger ones, facilitate the maintenance of the status quo. They've seen it first-hand.
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http://www.economist.com/news/business-books-quarterly/21606248-easing-consciences-good-thing-or-bad (http://www.economist.com/news/business-books-quarterly/21606248-easing-consciences-good-thing-or-bad)
Just happened across this, so thought I'd put it here.
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Is occupation purely a matter of self-defence in those territories?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/israeli-intelligence-reservists-refuse-serve-palestinian-territories (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/israeli-intelligence-reservists-refuse-serve-palestinian-territories)
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Is occupation purely a matter of self-defence in those territories?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/israeli-intelligence-reservists-refuse-serve-palestinian-territories (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/israeli-intelligence-reservists-refuse-serve-palestinian-territories)
Israel is an aggressive, oppressive, expansionist and fascist state.
And the Palestinians just won't learn to sit down, shut up and take it.
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Israel is an aggressive, oppressive, expansionist and fascist state.
And the Palestinians just won't learn to sit down, shut up and take it.
I agree with you up to the last term, although Israeli politics is very right wing I wouldn't use the term fascist.
Israel is in a very difficult position but the treatment of the Palestinian people is an abomination. The two state solution is a nonsense debate, it just serves to allow further annexation to take place.
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[...] things that concern me; 1. the never ending ability of the English to donate to charities to support animals rather than something worthwhile [...]
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire)
I fairly well agree on this. But the ethical issues it raises when you look deeper into it are deeply troubling. What is a worthwhile cause? Think of all the money spent on cancer research, ice buckets and even children in need. How else could that money be spent?
Rather than 'charitably' funding research into extending our own parasitic western lifespans and thus spending longer leaching global resources and causing misery in the developing world, we could give that money to causes such as water and mosquito nets. Rather than spending vast quantities to help a few children in this country, we could give the same amount and help 10 or 100 times as many in the poorest places. And by help, I mean keep them alive, not just give them a happier childhood. Of course racism, pseudo-colonialism and cultural and religious bigotry are rife. "Do they (the population of a largely non-christian, partly muslim continent the size of Europe, the USA and half of Asia combined) know it's christmas time at all?" Shut the fuck up.
Thinking deeply on charitable giving is an excellent way to realise that our sense of the right and the good is subjective bullshit and far from universalisable, that we are incredibly self-serving, that our empathies and sympathies are bounded to those with whom we have contact and to whom we relate, and that the degree of contact and relatibility largely determines our notions of responsibility. Thus determined, we then use these particular avenues to promote our own positive self-image and sense of goodness and self-worth.
A huge amount of charity is self-serving, self-defeating, feel-good outlets staffed by that branch of the middle/upper classes who struggle to come to terms with just how self-centered and privileged they are and thus try to drown it. And most other charitable causes are a mediocre, inefficient, narrow-minded and insular pursuit of a poorly defined good.
The growth of the professional charitable sector is symptomatic of deep ills in our country.
Apart from that, it's all good.
I'm pretty convinced that charity is simply never going to be enough to actually make a real difference to worldwide inequality and poverty. Most just seems fairly self-serving; a good way to fool ourselves into thinking that we're making a difference when in fact we're really doing very little to help people and change things. It seems like the only way to actually help poor people across the world is through serious change to global structures of power and economics, which are based on the exploitation of the poor people in question and their land and resources.
In fact, I'm sure some people might go so far as to argue that charity is an important part of the current economic order. It gives people an excuse not to call for serious change, because they can just argue that charities are doing good work etc, and that given time their work alone will be enough to sort everything out. It gives people a feeling of satisfaction from doing really not that much, and allows things to continue pretty much as they have for years, that is, based on a global system of exploitation, neocolonialism etc etc...
But yeah, I agree that apart from all that, charities are great!
I've worked for charities for most of my career and yea, there is a part of me that does it because I want to help people make their lives better which in turn makes me feel good. There has to be some other motivation than money for working in the 3rd sector as I could be earning a hell of a lot more money with a lot less grief in either the public or private sector.
I say tge above to agree that Charities are self serving to a certain extent. However without them much of the change you talk about, be it political, social, economic or personal, is being worked on on a daily basis by charities as they raise awareness and seek to change the system from within.
The world is a fucking mess, let's face it. Does that mean we shouldn't try? That we shouldn't support charities that try? And even if we don't always succeed in huge winds of change, is not the positive impact we have on individuals worth it on its own?
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[...] things that concern me; 1. the never ending ability of the English to donate to charities to support animals rather than something worthwhile [...]
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-donations-fire)
I fairly well agree on this. But the ethical issues it raises when you look deeper into it are deeply troubling. What is a worthwhile cause? Think of all the money spent on cancer research, ice buckets and even children in need. How else could that money be spent?
Rather than 'charitably' funding research into extending our own parasitic western lifespans and thus spending longer leaching global resources and causing misery in the developing world, we could give that money to causes such as water and mosquito nets. Rather than spending vast quantities to help a few children in this country, we could give the same amount and help 10 or 100 times as many in the poorest places. And by help, I mean keep them alive, not just give them a happier childhood. Of course racism, pseudo-colonialism and cultural and religious bigotry are rife. "Do they (the population of a largely non-christian, partly muslim continent the size of Europe, the USA and half of Asia combined) know it's christmas time at all?" Shut the fuck up.
Thinking deeply on charitable giving is an excellent way to realise that our sense of the right and the good is subjective bullshit and far from universalisable, that we are incredibly self-serving, that our empathies and sympathies are bounded to those with whom we have contact and to whom we relate, and that the degree of contact and relatibility largely determines our notions of responsibility. Thus determined, we then use these particular avenues to promote our own positive self-image and sense of goodness and self-worth.
A huge amount of charity is self-serving, self-defeating, feel-good outlets staffed by that branch of the middle/upper classes who struggle to come to terms with just how self-centered and privileged they are and thus try to drown it. And most other charitable causes are a mediocre, inefficient, narrow-minded and insular pursuit of a poorly defined good.
The growth of the professional charitable sector is symptomatic of deep ills in our country.
Apart from that, it's all good.
It is possible, productive and worthwhile; to do the right thing, for the wrong reasons...
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The world is a fucking mess, let's face it. Does that mean we shouldn't try? That we shouldn't support charities that try? And even if we don't always succeed in huge winds of change, is not the positive impact we have on individuals worth it on its own?
The same problem exists in enacting political change more widely. Should we work from within the system or from without it? Should we act within, be seen as 'valid', grow our organisations and gain more support and power as a result, at the cost of validating the system we're a part of? Or should we act from without and keep our hands clean of the system but be seen as invalid, be smaller and have less power.
I've not heard any particularly good answer to this question. I think the we just have to choose the least worst option, and that depends on a hugely complex set of factors which we can only really guess at.
You ask your questions and leave an implicit answer. I can't accept it without knowing a lot more. And even knowing everything we can, we might still come to the wrong conclusion.
Here's a couple of interesting articles:
http://www.redpepper.org.uk/whats-the-problem-with-the-if-campaign/ (http://www.redpepper.org.uk/whats-the-problem-with-the-if-campaign/)
http://www.independentaction.net/2013/07/16/state-of-the-voluntary-services-sector-bob-baker-writes/ (http://www.independentaction.net/2013/07/16/state-of-the-voluntary-services-sector-bob-baker-writes/)
P.s. Slopes/tom has now puntered me 4 times in 2 months, so I must be saying something right! :clap2:
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I'll read the articles when I'm not quite so knackered, they look interesting. As for an answer, there isn't one! It will very much depend upon the individual charity, the sector they work in, what they are trying to achieve and the clout they have behind them including the individuals they have working for them and the relationships they have have with key figures.
I was just trying to point out that just because something is really hard and impossible for an individual to achieve it doesn't mean we shouldn't give it a go. Oh, and without those people who make themselves feel better by giving a fiver on appeal nights or chucking a bit of spare change in a collection tin organisations a lot of great work wouldn't happen.
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Oh, and without those people who make themselves feel better by giving a fiver on appeal nights or chucking a bit of spare change in a collection tin organisations a lot of great work wouldn't happen.
I understand what you're saying and it's a valid presentation of one side of the argument and sometimes that side is the right one. But allow me to play devil's advocate.
What if we didn't allow people to merely salve their conscience with a few quid in the proverbial tin? What if charities didn't exist? What if we refused to be pushed into patching up the failures of government and feeling proud about it?
What if, for instance, food banks didn't exist? It's easy to say "aren't they great" and that lots of people wouldn't get food without them and there might be some short-term truth in that. But the wider truth is that public donation and voluntary organisation of food banks is now being used as part of the system of government. If they weren't there, the government would be forced into providing for them some other way, e.g. by providing sufficient benefits and maintaining a system which would be more supportive and wouldn't be reducing people's dignity as much as food banks do. Food banks are clearly enabling the government to break up the welfare state. And there are plenty of corollaries.
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What if we didn't allow people to merely salve their conscience with a few quid in the proverbial tin? What if charities didn't exist? What if we refused to be pushed into patching up the failures of government and feeling proud about it?
What if, for instance, food banks didn't exist? It's easy to say "aren't they great" and that lots of people wouldn't get food without them and there might be some short-term truth in that. But the wider truth is that public donation and voluntary organisation of food banks is now being used as part of the system of government. If they weren't there, the government would be forced into providing for them some other way, e.g. by providing sufficient benefits and maintaining a system which would be more supportive and wouldn't be reducing people's dignity as much as food banks do. Food banks are clearly enabling the government to break up the welfare state. And there are plenty of corollaries.
:agree:
I don't think either of us are saying that charity is inherently a bad thing in and of itself; just that at the moment, charities fill gaps (usually inadequately despite their best efforts) that a) should be filled by government, or b) could be eliminated completely with serious change to current systems of economics etc. Their role in filling these gaps, as Sam said, enables the government to neglect its duties to its citizens. Essentially, people are led into thinking that they don't have to complain as much about poverty and inequality to government because charities are there to deal with what government neglects to. This sort of thinking is one of many things that allow the world to stay largely the same and the root causes of problems to be ignored by powers who would rather not have to make the sacrifices required to address them.
It's a step further to say that charity is a bad thing because it plays a key role in a bad system, and I don't know if I would go quite so far as to say that, but it's an interesting argument and worth giving some thought to.
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Playing devil's advocate in return then... ;)
If charities were done away with and the government stepped up, vulnerable people would be at the mercy of the latest political agenda and what was going to be popular with the media therefore what they thought was going to get them elected again, not what was right.
For example, I could see your theory working well for paediatric hospitals but I can also see the field day the sun and the mail would have with taxes being spent on none documented migrant workers or job seekers.
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You might be right about that, though we can't know for sure. If you're right, we might try to draw one distinction between an area where we suspect harm is being done by charities and and area where we suspect charitable work is, given the best available circumspection, truly producing a net gain for society. And how often does this kind of circumspection occur?
"We really want to try and keep (sic) charities and voluntary groups out of the realms of politics ... the important thing charities should be doing is sticking to their knitting" - Brooks Newmark, Tory MP and Cameron's new charities minister
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Their role in filling these gaps, as Sam said, enables the government to neglect its duties to its citizens. Essentially, people are led into thinking that they don't have to complain as much about poverty and inequality to government because charities are there to deal with what government neglects to.
"TheBig Society " as it was intended. The problem about shoring up iniquity and so perpetuating it is that crisis management is also a moral imperative. There isn't black and white here (in terms of consequences , not intentions) but balanced shades of grey.
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Their role in filling these gaps, as Sam said, enables the government to neglect its duties to its citizens. Essentially, people are led into thinking that they don't have to complain as much about poverty and inequality to government because charities are there to deal with what government neglects to.
"TheBig Society " as it was intended. [...]. There isn't black and white here (in terms of consequences , not intentions) but balanced shades of grey.
Indeed. The reason it's so worthy of discussion isn't that charity is necessarily wrong or mistaken, but that it isn't necessarily right or wise - and the assumption held by the vast majority of people is that it is just that.
p.s. Moral imperative = much bigger topic which I'm avoiding for the sake of everyone's sanity.
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p.s. Moral imperative = much bigger topic which I'm avoiding for the sake of everyone's sanity.
I'm glad you're not a Kant.
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Israel is an aggressive, oppressive, expansionist and fascist state.
And the Palestinians just won't learn to sit down, shut up and take it.
I agree with you up to the last term, although Israeli politics is very right wing I wouldn't use the term fascist.
Israel is in a very difficult position but the treatment of the Palestinian people is an abomination. The two state solution is a nonsense debate, it just serves to allow further annexation to take place.
Are you suggesting then that there should be a 'one state solution' i.e. the absorption of all of Palestine into Israel or the reverse, or have you just expressed yourself very poorly? If it is the former, a very strange proposition.
Israeli politics is actually a mix of a wide range of political opinions and parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_nineteenth_Knesset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_nineteenth_Knesset)
Sam I puntered you because of your description of Israel as a fascist state, I doubt you have any real knowledge of the concept of fascism and are merely parroting drivel you've picked up from The Young Ones or some other source which while as equally moronic was not quite as amusing. (Gaza is run on lines very reminiscent of a fascist state, but that's another issue).
The description of Israel as a fascist state, references to the 'holocaust' of the Palestinians and so on is the hallmark of those that transfer their disagreement with the actions of the Israeli government to individuals like me.
There is still a rich vein of antisemitism within British society (regrettably even here we've seen the use of the phrase 'jewed out' or similar to describe buying a cheaper option of a product) and sadly too frequently protest against the Israeli government's policies brings this to the fore.
These prejudices are not harmless, they are malign, corrosive and pernicious: and in my view need to be met head on.
It is entirely proper to question the actions of the government of Israel and its actions: and in now way antisemitic so to do: however that criticism and debate far too often shifts from a critique / protest about the government >>> the state of Israel >>> to Israels >>> Jews.
Sadly too many 'pro-Palestinians' conflate the actions of the government of Israel with 'Jews' and abuse (and worse) Jewish people, shops and institutions as a result with a perverted form of self justification.
In Manchester recently there was the usual crowd of lefties who staged a protest lasting weeks outside a shop selling cosmetics as if this was a proxy for the Israeli government / IDF, when in reality the sole reason was because it was owned by Jews.
I find it rather depressing that one still sees people 'of and on the left' proudly wearing the iconography of a failed fascist state which transported millions of minorities to their deaths who somehow then are able to perform the mental gymnastics to 1. equate the holocaust with the situation in Palestine and 2. overlook much greater 'wrongs' because the perpetrators are associated with the political dogma.
The 'fog' of anti-Israeli protest allows antisemitism to develop just as the immigration debate allows racism to develop, what is I think instructive is how those who might be characterised as being typical of the 'pro-Palestinian' protestor decry the inherent racism of those who advance a 'no more immigration' stance reject any suggestion that there's a hint of antisemitism in their own ranks, often with the argument that as Palestinians are 'semitic too' they can't be antisemitic.
The Palestinian situation is a tragedy, and one that is not just confined to Gaza but repeated in the refugee camps in Jordan and else where, what the solution is I do not know but I am sure that the vile antisemitic teachings in schools in Gaza and external actors paying for 1000's of rockets to fire at Israel do not help.
The Palestinians need to have a viable state and a government which applies basic standards of the rule of law within its own borders before there can be real moves towards peace, sadly that seems to be a long way off.
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fascist = highly militarised authoritarian and oppressive regime pushing a radical nationalist agenda.
Is it an appropriate label for Israel? Well, I also use strong derogatory labels for the UK, US and other nations in a position of power. Particularly, I use them with regards the foreign policy of nations able to exert power via their foreign policy and abusing that position. This is a worthwhile way of judging a country, a society, a group, club or individual. How do they treat those with whom they do not self-identify? In a globalised world in which powerful nations boast of their human rights glories while violating human rights internationally, it's a necessary mechanism for judging the true moral quality of a country.
If the Israeli public can sit on hilltops and cheers their own bombs falling on the homes of children across their border, a border which they violate with impunity creating a virtual prison camp, I think the shoe fits. If the IDF can run tanks over Palestinian babies and freely treat Palestinian like animals, the shoe fits. The foreign policy of Israel is fascist.
And what of Palestine? There are clearly some deeply unpleasant people there. A huge amount of people have turned to violence for their defence. After decades of illegal aggression against them, it seems many Gazans are clearly unconcerned about committing war crimes and do so with impunity.
The question of blame, though, comes down to the balance of power. Who has the vast majority of the power in this situation? Who is really in a position to change things? Who has the backing of the most powerful nation on earth? Thus the vast majority of the blame lies with Israel. They are the only party capable of producing meaningful change. They are also the only party over which the West can exert great influence.
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Looking across a broad spectrum of your posts Sam i don't think you live in the real world.
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Looking across a broad spectrum of your posts Sam i don't think you live in the real world.
My real world involves debt, tiredness and a school in special measures.
Fuck that.
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Are you suggesting then that there should be a 'one state solution' i.e. the absorption of all of Palestine into Israel or the reverse, or have you just expressed yourself very poorly? If it is the former, a very strange proposition.
It is the former, on this basis:
The only fair and I would suggest rational borders are the 47, not pre 67 ones. This isn't going to happen. Judging by the rest of your post, you'll understand that full well.
The pre 67 borders aren't going to happen either. If Israel genuinely wanted a two state solution, there would be one. The excuses about 'terrorists' derailing the process are, in context, spurious.
The 'two state solution' is a basis for procrastination and enables an ongoing land-grab - look at the most recent settlements (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/01/israeli-settlement-west-bank-gvaot-condemned).
What will happen is that Israel will subsume all of the land it wants in the West Bank and Gaza will become so squeezed that many Gazans will simply have to leave. It's tiny, getting tinier (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/israeli-buffer-zone-tightens-gaza-chokehold-20148183650108236.html) and increasingly uninhabitable, will run out of sufficient water in 2020 by sensible estimates (http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/gaza-2020-liveable-place).
There is no viable Palestinian state.
What is viable is a single state in Palestine with equality under the law for all citizens, Jews and Arabs. This is obviously going to meet intense opposition, but I believe other propositions are simply fanciful.
As regards the rest of your post.
Hamas and rockets and indoctrination - yes, yes, we know this, what they are. I've read the Charter, have you? But we don't hear as much annihilation talk nowadays. Ultimately Hamas can - and I suggest will- shift position if it's expedient and the gains are there.
Nota bene the $225m (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/senate-approves-israel-aid-109642.html) aid passed by Washington while the conflict raged. The conflict is fuelled by outside agencies on both sides, but most munificently towards Israel. A behemoth vs a gnat.
Your points about the elision of criticism of the Jewish State to hatred of the Jews and the apparent legitimisation of the latter under cover of the former are bang on. I believe however that aggressive Zionism is no friend to world Jewry in the longer (or even shorter) term. Look at France; a 5 fold increase this year in anti-semitic incidents, real fascists now circling on the edge of real power with the matronly Marina Le Pen a contender for Présidente -READ THIS (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11078493/Boost-for-far-right-Le-Pen-as-poll-finds-she-would-triumph-in-presidential-election.html).
This is tending to crisis and Isreal's actions are most emphatically not helping.
About fascism as a term: fasces symbolising power of life and death were carried before a magistrate -as every good lawyer (and Mussolini) will know. As a specific political credo it can only apply under specific criteria. Israel doesn't meet them. It isn't a necessary term to bash Israel with as the state is already open to a myriad of serious accusations. Crimes against humanity being amongst them.
Redolent of Third Reich, fascist is not to me an acceptable term to apply to the Jewish State.
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My real world involves ... a school in special measures.
:blink: Have a wad point.
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I'll take issue with just one point, and that is in respect of the institutions of state in Palestine, Hamas (whether you regard themselves as the proper representatives of the people of Gaza or not) seem to hold certain aspects of statehood (such as the rule of law and other institutions) anathema.
As to reading the Hamas charter I don't read Arabic and therefore can only consider the various translations of which there are a number and I would suggest all are politicised to a degree and most highly so.
For there to be peace there needs to be a meeting of minds between two states (assuming states can have a collective mind, itself a subject of intense jurisprudential debate) and it is rather tricky to say the least, for there to be an engagement with Hamas who reject basic precepts of the foundations of a state.
Israel and its successive governments has move considerably towards a peaceful resolution to the conflict (often while under active enemy fire) despite vociferous internal opposition, sadly the scope for movement from Hamas seems to be distinctly limited.
Opportunities for Hamas to engage (other than militarily) have been presented and have been spurned. Israel withdrew from Gaza and left a massive amount of infrastructure . . . which was then systematically destroyed.
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I don't have time to address this mid-week, but it deserves some consideration, especially as it is the dominant narrative. ie Israel has sued for peace but the Palestinian representatives have failed to grasp the opportunity.
And it would take me some time as I'm just a person who has formed a view, not an authority on this.
Israel and its successive governments has move considerably towards a peaceful resolution to the conflict (often while under active enemy fire) despite vociferous internal opposition, sadly the scope for movement from Hamas seems to be distinctly limited.
Opportunities for Hamas to engage (other than militarily) have been presented and have been spurned. Israel withdrew from Gaza and left a massive amount of infrastructure . . . which was then systematically destroyed.
I think it's a hasbaran canard and doesn't fit the facts. There's destructive behaviour on both sides but the story in its broad brush puts the responsibility fully onto the Palestinians. I don't think that is an accurate representation.
As I said before, If Israel wanted peace - enough to compromise on land - then peace would already be there.
I'm not anti Israel btw. Not when I have a parent who was sufficiently motivated to leave these shores to go join the IDF. I just call it the way I see it.
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The lack of ambition to implement a two state solution above is a bit troubling.
As I see it, a one state solution is either going to create an apartheid state or be unacceptable to Israel as the state will cease to exist in its current form. As such it is not something that we can realistically work towards.
A two state solution is the only thing the world can satisfactorily aim for. Whilst Netanyahu and his chums are in power, I don't think that we will get there and that Israel is likely to continue with incremental, piecemeal deterioration of the Palestinian territories until they have been absorbed or are simply uninhabitable.
Hopefully the hard line Zionism that we have now will recede and Israel will be governed by more reasonable people who are more open to peace. Fingers crossed then.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/16/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-pcc-shaun-wright-resigns (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/16/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-pcc-shaun-wright-resigns)
I wonder what's cahnged? The cynic in me says there's been a pay off, if so then I think heads should roll.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/16/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-pcc-shaun-wright-resigns (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/16/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-pcc-shaun-wright-resigns)
I wonder what's cahnged? The cynic in me says there's been a pay off, if so then I think heads should roll.
An ardent cynic might even wonder if the whole " I'm not resigning" episode was based around securing a soft landing...
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The lack of ambition to implement a two state solution above is a bit troubling.
As I see it, a one state solution is either going to create an apartheid state or be unacceptable to Israel as the state will cease to exist in its current form. As such it is not something that we can realistically work towards.
Where would it be? There isn't enough land, you can't build a country in a couple of fields.
Two little bits of land completely encircled and policed by the IDF? Split in two, dominated by different factions (PA and Hamas), unable to perform the basic functions of a state, have free movement, control borders, bear arms? True independence isn't going to happen whether you have Hamas, Abbas or Mother Teresa at the helm.
Will, there isn't going to be a two state solution. It's a chimera, an illusion. Politics has to be the art of the possible.
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The lack of ambition to implement a two state solution above is a bit troubling.
As I see it, a one state solution is either going to create an apartheid state or be unacceptable to Israel as the state will cease to exist in its current form. As such it is not something that we can realistically work towards.
A two state solution is the only thing the world can satisfactorily aim for. Whilst Netanyahu and his chums are in power, I don't think that we will get there and that Israel is likely to continue with incremental, piecemeal deterioration of the Palestinian territories until they have been absorbed or are simply uninhabitable.
Hopefully the hard line Zionism that we have now will recede and Israel will be governed by more reasonable people who are more open to peace. Fingers crossed then.
The use of phrases such as 'apartheid' state, is again inappropriate language born from lazy ignorance or less pleasant reasons. No one is doubting that there are many in Israel who are deeply prejudiced, but the state is not, the laws of Israel are not discriminatory: compared against say the situation in Greece, the Israeli legal settlement is a bastion of liberty.
Comparing the situation in Israel to SA in say 1985 is just silly (not as silly as Sam's description) and demeans the debate.
In the UK, black men are disproportionately likely to die in police custody, be stopped & searched, BME solicitors are more likely to be referred to the disciplinary tribunal and receive harsher sentences than white solicitors, recently we had a party which most would be consider explicitly racist sending MEP's to Strasbourg, the EDL can turn out hundreds of violent thugs at short notice, are we an apartheid or racist nation? No of course not.
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Russell Brand:
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=media_news&issue=1375 (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=media_news&issue=1375)
I thought PE were probably exaggerating so I had a quick look on Youtube. Oh dear.
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The only sense I could get from that was that his mate should be called "Johann Hair"
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He's a journalist that got sacked for fabricating stories and plagarism.
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Is Russel Brand trying to muscle in on David Icke's (http://www.davidicke.com/) scene?
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Well I never: Academy Enterprise Trust
to turn public taxpayer monies for children's education into private profit
proposal to run some academy services for profit (http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/sep/20/academy-school-chain-outsource-jobs-privatisation-by-stealth) will definitely raise the educational bar for our children and be another educational reform parents have been crying out for.
Who could possibly have foreseen that the Academy model might pave the way for privatisation?
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David Blunket and Tony Blair?
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Well the application of the model changed completely in 2010 but the rot set in with those two, yes.
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Slopes, stop talking sense and start being more obnoxious - your wad/punter ratio has exceeded 3:2. :chair:
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Quite, back to the Buckfast & Braveheart prole.
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Quite, back to the Buckfast & Braveheart prole.
In the town of my Father's birth, a few minutes through leafy valleys from my current repose and nestled at the foot of the high moors; there stands a little Monastery. A place better known hereabouts for it's Bees, honey and Brother Matthew their keeper (rip).
In this place there reside a few bemused (and possibly misguided) Monks, who seem to be getting the blame for all of Scotland's woes...
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I wouldn't go that far.
Can't recall Irvine Welsh mentioning the buckie in any of his books despite the horrific downfall of so many that he describes so well.
The purple tin mind....
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Buckie is more of a Glasgow & Fife thing. I'd never heard of it growing up in Perthshire and it's not that popular in Edinburgh, where most of Irvine Welsh's stuff is set.
Vile stuff.
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Well it makes a change for the victim not to be some poor child / member of the public.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-29309358 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-29309358)
<auto response, blame the dede not the bread, guns don't kill people etc, my mates rhodesian ridgeback / mastiff cross is as soft as shite>
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Well conference is over for another year, but JFCOAB, it didn't end well, a post work swill around the corner from conference and I was almost compelled to remove the i/d cards from around the necks of a few other drinkers in case they tried to hang themselves.
Two years ago there was a palpable sense of self belief from the delegates and a wonderful display of bluster and confidence, today was like a damp funeral for a great aunt one didn't care much for.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/24/john-crace-labour-party-conference-barely-open-eye-in-house-douglas-alexander (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/24/john-crace-labour-party-conference-barely-open-eye-in-house-douglas-alexander)
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Interesting article.
Conference stuff is only important to a small minority but what makes this relevant is that De Blasio is made out to be a Muppet with no personality.
But he won, by fucking miles.
As I've said before if it does come down to Cameron vs Miliband it'll be policies that decide it rather than personality as neither have any of the latter.
Probably a good thing too.
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Americans need killer dogs to stop people breaking into their houses to steal their guns
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Interesting article.
Conference stuff is only important to a small minority but what makes this relevant is that De Blasio is made out to be a Muppet with no personality.
But he won, by fucking miles.
As I've said before if it does come down to Cameron vs Miliband it'll be policies that decide it rather than personality as neither have any of the latter.
Probably a good thing too.
When it comes to policies or personality, sadly I rather think that the former is more important to large majority of voters.
Also when it comes to policies, I think Miliband is rather deficient in that regard, 'forgetting' to mention the deficit, immigration and the West Lothian question in his speech wasn't exactly a good start.
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Well it makes a change for the victim not to be some poor child / member of the public.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-29309358 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-29309358)
Yup, was the idiot owner who was savaged http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-29337218 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-29337218)
<auto response, blame the dede not the bread, guns don't kill people etc, my mates rhodesian ridgeback / mastiff cross is as soft as shite>
An american climbing couple with a new-born baby recently requested to rent my studio apartment here for week or so. I was keen until they asked if they could bring their ridgeback too. Dangerous breed + baby .... WTF is wrong with these people?
Stupidity, if you try pointing out that some breeds, i.e,. pretty much any variety of bull terrier are dangerous then you get swamped by the equivalent of the young earth creationists arguing against evolution, try it on Cocktalk if you don't believe me.
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Rockerfellers to invest in renwables (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29310475)
Surely good news, but the cynic in me still wonders about this story.
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get in early, buy low, dominate the development of the market?
Sounds like a pretty good investment strategy to me, also I don't think they're facing a liquidity crisis if thier portfolio goes down a few hundred million $
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It looks like the election campaign has kicked off.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/25/sun-ed-miliband-help-for-heroes#start-of-comments (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/25/sun-ed-miliband-help-for-heroes#start-of-comments)
Personally I reagard The Sun as a national disgrace and would have an ehtical dilema if I saw Ruper Murdoch on the other side of the road with his teeth on fire, but FFS Miliband is supposed to do politics, and anyone halfwit would know that in the eyes of tabloid readers this would go down like a pork & mayo sandwhich after sundown.
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The world must stop and wait for Mr Farage to finish speaking!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29358552
What a tosser.
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Rockerfellers to invest in renwables (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29310475)
Surely good news, but the cynic in me still wonders about this story.
This link is being shared by all the eco-nimbies over here. I think it is being massively over-interpreted as evidence of a sea change in the investment industry. That fund is a "philanthropy" play-thing. The trustees of the fund will be far more motivated by the social benefits of making fashionable decisions rather than maximizing investment returns. I am sure the wealth that supports their own lifestyles is managed very differently and with no publicity.
Do they really give a f*ck about what anyone else thinks or are they making this decision for economic reasons...? I suspect they operate more like insurance actuaries and would make a decision on a multi billion dollar deal based on if one option were $1 cheaper
If so - then it is a real tipping point - showing that RE and such new technologies have reached a point where they can become more mainstream and are an investment bandwagon worth jumping on... Personally I think it sfar better they are investing in XYZNewageCowShitDigesters.com than Shell....
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Why the 'mansion tax' will raise no money.
If they are looking at charging £10-25k per year the owners will simply transfer the ownership of the property to an offshore company and then pay 'rent'.
I don't think they've really worked this one out.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/25/mansion-tax-very-disruptive-housing-market (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/25/mansion-tax-very-disruptive-housing-market)
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Rockerfellers to invest in renwables (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29310475)
Surely good news, but the cynic in me still wonders about this story.
This link is being shared by all the eco-nimbies over here. I think it is being massively over-interpreted as evidence of a sea change in the investment industry. That fund is a "philanthropy" play-thing. The trustees of the fund will be far more motivated by the social benefits of making fashionable decisions rather than maximizing investment returns. I am sure the wealth that supports their own lifestyles is managed very differently and with no publicity.
But will they start a trend?
Everything is as valuable someone is willing to value it.
The bigger the someone, the bigger the splash and the further the ripples might spread...
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It looks like the election campaign has kicked off.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/25/sun-ed-miliband-help-for-heroes#start-of-comments (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/25/sun-ed-miliband-help-for-heroes#start-of-comments)
Personally I reagard The Sun as a national disgrace and would have an ehtical dilema if I saw Ruper Murdoch on the other side of the road with his teeth on fire, but FFS Miliband is supposed to do politics, and anyone halfwit would know that in the eyes of tabloid readers this would go down like a pork & mayo sandwhich after sundown.
Miliband (and whoever is on his team) is clearly crap but this isn't his fault. He got crucified for being involved in one ill advised Sun thing and now he gets hung drawn and quartered for not getting involved in another one.
I get that a lot of drooling morons, sorry people who read The Sun, will take it the wrong way but seriously, that's just pathetic. I actually have far less respect for the other cunts for being involved in such a pile of wank, but I realise I'll be in a small minority.
Oh and why the fuck is that fucking fuck Farage being given so much credence and airtime? Nick Griffin must be well pissed off.
The world must stop and wait for Mr Farage to finish speaking!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29358552
What a tosser.
Precisely. The only reason this shitstain and his party of racists, bigots, homophobes and other equally stupid random assorted fools is so high profile and is garnering large support from the feeble minded is the coverage he gets in all the media Every Fucking Day.
Just fuck off.
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The only reason ....is so high profile and is garnering large support from the feeble minded is the coverage he gets in all the media Every Fucking Day neo-liberal agenda which underpins his politics and pleases the media owners.
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Nice rant J. Have a wad.
I'm not that comfortable giving to help for heroes.. The victims deserve support - and I feel for them but there's just something a bit jingo-istic and tub thumping about it that just doesn't sit right with me. Poppy etc.. No problem.
Anyway - Millibland seems like a nice bloke - the text of his speech is great - but he's just dull and uninspiring to listen to. Afraid Cameron beats him on that front.
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Interesting perspective (and author) on ISIS
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/16/chelsea-manning-isis-strategy (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/16/chelsea-manning-isis-strategy)
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Nice rant J. Have a wad.
I'm not that comfortable giving to help for heroes.. The victims deserve support - and I feel for them but there's just something a bit jingo-istic and tub thumping about it that just doesn't sit right with me. Poppy etc.. No problem.
Anyway - Millibland seems like a nice bloke - the text of his speech is great - but he's just dull and uninspiring to listen to. Afraid Cameron beats him on that front.
In an ideal world he'd have told Murdoch & the Sun to fuck off when he was elected (as should have Cameron, Clegg etc), however he was at the Murdoch's cocktail party within months of being elected as leader and has posed with / for the Sun on a number of occasions, so why withdraw now when the damage was so obvious and the timing so dangerous?
I too find HfH and the people who 'shout' their support in the way that they do rather distasteful, but I rather suspect that this si due to the fact that the stereotype of the HfH shouty type is a Red Top reading prole.
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Totally agree re Help For Heroes tomtom. Great cause but everything else about it is wrong. I stopped wearing a poppy a few years ago too. Still give money, don't like feeling obliged to show support for anything.
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I feel similar about help for heroes, and don't give. To me joining the armed services is a choice and a job, there's no longer conscription, killing people for a living for whatever reason - isn't something I want to support.
I wear a Poppy for two reasons - goes down well with clients and in remembrance, but not celebration and glorification of wasted lives.
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I didn't realise wearing a poppy meant you were celebrating or glorifying a wasted life. You learn something new every day
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I didn't realise wearing a poppy meant you were celebrating or glorifying a wasted life. You learn something new every day
Yes that always seemed an odd interpretation.
As for killing people for a living?
That is an overly simplistic view.
Like most service personnel, I spent far, far, more time; standing between people trying to kill other people. Often unable to use any kind of force.
The political decisions of recent Governments to use the services as some sort of Military Police to protect people and assets in foreign lands and often political/greed agendas; does not diminish the courage of those who volunteer to be the last resort.
Most operations since WW2 have been aimed at protecting a population from an aggressor, not domination.
The problem lies with politicians not bringing things to a close. That is how "liberator" becomes "occupier".
Don't punish the thin red line for the politicians greed.
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For example, there was a rash of "ethical" funds launched in the late 90s in Britain that shunned tobacco stocks and the like. Despite that, fifteen years later, adjusting for a few mergers, the big tobacco firms are still big in stock market terms.
IIRC the mark down for tobacco firms in the late 90's had less to do with the vagaries of investment fashion and more to do with the fear/threat of law suits of a huge $magnitude which turned out to be less devastating than feared
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I didn't realise wearing a poppy meant you were celebrating or glorifying a wasted life. You learn something new every day
Yes that always seemed an odd interpretation.
As for killing people for a living?
That is an overly simplistic view.
Like most service personnel, I spent far, far, more time; standing between people trying to kill other people. Often unable to use any kind of force.
The political decisions of recent Governments to use the services as some sort of Military Police to protect people and assets in foreign lands and often political/greed agendas; does not diminish the courage of those who volunteer to be the last resort.
Most operations since WW2 have been aimed at protecting a population from an aggressor, not domination.
The problem lies with politicians not bringing things to a close. That is how "liberator" becomes "occupier".
Don't punish the thin red line for the politicians greed.
Indeed, what's the old quote (from memory) 'gentle men sleep soundly in their bed because rough men stand willing to do violence on their behalf', Eric Blair
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is the HFH bit worth seperataing out?
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http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/7/Diageo-Great-Britain-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_270730.aspx#.VAWYgEhRYjU (http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/7/Diageo-Great-Britain-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_270730.aspx#.VAWYgEhRYjU)
(http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/pictures/465xAny/P/web/b/t/t/captain-morgan-a_460.jpg)
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For me the poppy is to remember those who died - and the fund supports those affected by war on all sides. No celebration - just a little mark of respect - and to remind us not to go down such paths of war again (that we are about to watchingbthebnews...)
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Yes, if only to experiment and see how long it takes a half wit to find the thread via google and call us all commie faggots / traitors etc. :icon_welcome: :popcorn:
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For me the poppy is to remember those who died - and the fund supports those affected by war on all sides. No celebration - just a little mark of respect - and to remind us not to go down such paths of war again (that we are about to watchingbthebnews...)
My view is that we need to engage with ISIS/IS/ISIL and by enagge I mean close with, engage and kill.
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Was Hawala still in vogue?
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http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/7/Diageo-Great-Britain-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_270730.aspx#.VAWYgEhRYjU (http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/7/Diageo-Great-Britain-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_270730.aspx#.VAWYgEhRYjU)
(http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/pictures/465xAny/P/web/b/t/t/captain-morgan-a_460.jpg)
Was the complainant a Mr Starfish?
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The lack of ambition to implement a two state solution above is a bit troubling.
As I see it, a one state solution is either going to create an apartheid state
The use of phrases such as 'apartheid' state, is again inappropriate language born from lazy ignorance or less pleasant reasons. No one is doubting that there are many in Israel who are deeply prejudiced, but the state is not, the laws of Israel are not discriminatory: compared against say the situation in Greece, the Israeli legal settlement is a bastion of liberty.
Comparing the situation in Israel to SA in say 1985 is just silly (not as silly as Sam's description) and demeans the debate.
It's an interesting point. In a context where two races are so unequally juxtaposed valid to consider, so I think that's rather harsh.
It can be lazy, but I don't believe Will is being so. Internally in Israel I think there are strong inequalities but not on the scale of apartheid, nowhere near, so the comparison fails there.
Many would apply the term bantustan to the West Bank so the comparison seems valid to that degree.
Mahmoud Abbas makes the comparison, reported as accusing Israel of planning (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/mahmoud-abbas-un-israeli-withdrawal-occupied-territories)
ghettos for Palestinians on fragmented land, without borders and without sovereignty over its airspace, water and natural resources, which will be under the subjugation of the racist settlers and army of occupation, and at worst will be a most abhorrent form of apartheid.
However not even Pik Botha bombed civilian populations, the old, the young, the pregnant, the disabled, hospitals, UN refuges and schools, so the comparison breaks down there too, but in a manner in which Israel becomes something worse, more terrible, more wrong.
It's grim to turn round and face this, but the systematic manner in which this bombing has been carried out since 2006 elevates it to crimes against humanity as it is the repeated and inevitable consequence of government policy, not an unforeseen and unanticipated moment of tragedy.
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The inference which can be drawn from what you are saying (I am not suggesting this is your intent) is that Israel deliberately and as a matter of policy targeted babies, the disabled and so on.
Israel have launched an investigation into a number of specific events and whether you agree with the outcomes of trials / sentences have in the past prosecuted members of the IDF.
You say that even Pik Botha didn't bomb concentrated civilian populations, correct, but there are two distinct differences between the ANC and their military wing and Hamas, the military wing of the ANC weren't launching 100s of missiles towards Pretoria or Cape Town and the ANC's aim was not the destruction of the state of South Africa.
Israel has the right to defend itself. In waging war against the Hamas fighters there will always be collateral damage, and Israel (again whether you believe the spokesperson of the state) makes efforts to limit this. The prosecution of this war is entirely separate to the internal political and legal system of the state.
The laws of Israel are explicitly non discriminatory, the laws of South Africa (prior to 1992 from memory) were explicitly discriminatory.
While there might be a tonnage of ordnance dropped / fired might be significant and targeted the phrase 'systematic' implies if not infers that this is not aimed at destroying military targets but part of a systematic degradation of the population of Gaza, which to be blunt, is total bollocks.
If Hamas stopped summarily executing people suspected of being spies and having gun battles with the rump of the PLO and generally allowing the rule of law to develop in Gaza then the chances for peace (in what ever form) would be massively increased.
Sadly there seems to be no signs of this.
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'Systematic' because it's policy to engage in this way and the deaths of vulnerable civilians are unavoidable. They are not the primary targets, but that is no consolation nor defence.
Hamas, whose charter repeatedly calls for Jihad, are a problem. Rockets are a genuine threat and they are very willing to draw civilian casualties. They are guilty of very serious crimes too.
What appears to be happening is that Israel does not have an effective strategy to address Gaza and instead use of force escalates with every incursion. I view this approach as immoral, end of.
In the short term it works because the Israeli govt doesn't get displaced for policy failures and Palestinian capabilities are reduced.
Despite Abbas's words this week in the West Bank Fatah appear supine, as far as I understand it. Until Gazans acquiesce too we will be locked into this pattern. They won't though because living conditions are intolerable and behind every death lie even more people maimed physically and mentally, creating a deepening pool of hate. Civilian deaths are a recruiting jamboree for extremists. This can only cycle downwards. More despair, more combatants willing to die, ad infinitum.
Let's be clear: Israel is wronged in this conflict too. But Israel must change course.
Some rough stats on Gaza, ( B'Tselem (http://www.btselem.org/statistics)has more detail ) post Cast Lead (2008):
Israeli deaths: 80 (5 children)
Palestinian deaths: 4020 (908-991 children, depending on source).
Nearly 1000 children. In 6 years.
That's not a small number of tragic events.
It's the consequence of policy.
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Sexting: a resigning offence??
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11125919/Conservative-minister-resigns-over-sex-scandal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11125919/Conservative-minister-resigns-over-sex-scandal.html)
I'd be very pleased to see Brooks (Stick-to-Knitting) Newmark resign and acknowledge that his patronising views/crass attempts to ward off 3rd sector criticism make him unsuited to his post.
But to resign for willy-waving by text in a case of entrapment??
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Makes it easier for him to join ukip now ;)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5297606/MPs-expenses-Full-list-of-MPs-investigated-by-the-Telegraph.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5297606/MPs-expenses-Full-list-of-MPs-investigated-by-the-Telegraph.html)
My favourite
Douglas Hogg included with his expenses claims the cost of having the moat cleared, piano tuned and stable lights fixed at his country manor house. He has agreed to repay £2,200 for the moat clearing
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How is this news?
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They're doing a series of articles showing the full lists.
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aahh, the 100 best dodgy expenses claims, I'm surprised this hasn't featured on C4 or similar.
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More of a C5 thing - "When Expense Claims Attack"
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Protests HK style: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-29423147 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-29423147)
Pretty interesting scene down on the ground though - can't see many places in the world where you get thousands of people protesting against the Government and yet not one incident of looting / vandalism etc. Lets just hope the tanks don't come rolling in this time (there's some stationed in the PLA barracks just around the corner...)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15215493408_3a9d953862_c.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3853/15215327419_e2428503de_c.jpg)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/15215565397_3caf0e1a84_c.jpg)
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It's pretty amazing really. As you say, let's just hope it doesn't turn nasty.
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http://www.climbing.co.za/2014/09/huge-rescue-operation-save-trapped-man/ (http://www.climbing.co.za/2014/09/huge-rescue-operation-save-trapped-man/)
72 hours in South Africa. Rustenburg is where I grew up, and used to wander around the Kloof a lot in my youth. Luckily never saw any snakes though, only baboons.
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It's pretty amazing really. As you say, let's just hope it doesn't turn nasty.
Another Tian a men moment wil have massive consequences for the aborad (in the short term at least)
The question is do they fear internal consequences more than external consequences (and the external consequences wil have internal effects too)?
I think the best solution is a messy compromise, but the genie is out of the bottle for China and as the economy moves towards services / higher value production I can't see the current political settlement surviving.
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Had this pop up on my Twitter feed earlier....
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/621d19c94d393180e12ea3b85771e3fe.jpg)
Under the heading "HK protests descend into Violins"...
😜
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Public servant has no sense of humour, satire or appreciation of art. cvnts
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-29446232 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-29446232)
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Not sure where to put this but it follows previous posts about Israel-Palestine.
BBC2: The Gatekeepers (http://www.thegatekeepersfilm.com/en.html)
Unbelievable film. Six former heads of Shin Bet talk to camera. Watch it.
Ami Ayalon. Razor sharp.
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Yeah this was remarkable. The most clear-eyed commentary on fighting terrorism - and in the process creating a target for hate - I think I've ever seen, straight from inside the minds of those who spent years not just 'at the coalface' but running the mine. The debate afterwards was also decent and notches above the usual party-line tripe doled out by self-interested politicians.
Talking of whom, if only something like this film had been released at the time the cunt Blair was deceiving his way into invading Iraq.
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Not exactly news.
But what a commentary on British life.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/16/47e7f8f0bb29cab6114fb295d25f3eca.jpg)
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This isn't new, but it bears repeating. Again and again and again.
If you are disabled, there's no social contract, you are not to be cared for.
This is what this administration does, there's no doubt to give the benefit of.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/24/iain-duncan-smith-disabled-ms-parkinsons-dwp (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/24/iain-duncan-smith-disabled-ms-parkinsons-dwp)
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That's shocking
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Not sure where to put this but it follows previous posts about Israel-Palestine.
BBC2: The Gatekeepers (http://www.thegatekeepersfilm.com/en.html)
Unbelievable film. Six former heads of Shin Bet talk to camera. Watch it.
Ami Ayalon. Razor sharp.
Bollocks, just saw this post and it's no longer available.
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Says you can buy here
http://www.blinkbox.com/movies/the-gatekeepers-(56183) (http://www.blinkbox.com/movies/the-gatekeepers-(56183))
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That's shocking
I'm pleased you said that.. In my view they've been gunning for the disabled from the off..
Remploy - shut
Back to work with ATOS -countless reclasified according to tick box criteria, not full medical assessment... successful appeals running at around 40% (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/23/work-assessments-atos-dwp-test)...this isn't moral behaviour. There have even been cases reported where someone has been declared fit for work and then died of their condition.
Government should be running the country for the wellbeing of its citizens. If you want the measure of those in charge, look at how they treat those who are weak, vulnerable and poorly placed to fight back.
If you start to look online, you'll quickly find the situation for the disabled is worse than you think, with legislation introduced in October 13 to delay appeals and charges applied to prepare an appeal http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gps-charge-disabled-up-to-130-to-appeal-fitnesstowork-decisions-8785041.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gps-charge-disabled-up-to-130-to-appeal-fitnesstowork-decisions-8785041.html)
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This isn't new, but it bears repeating. Again and again and again.
If you are disabled, there's no social contract, you are not to be cared for.
This is what this administration does, there's no doubt to give the benefit of.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/24/iain-duncan-smith-disabled-ms-parkinsons-dwp (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/24/iain-duncan-smith-disabled-ms-parkinsons-dwp)
Would this be the scheme introduced by Labour and administered by contracts signed by Labour? It from reading the article it seems like there were some bizzare decisions made by ATOS, hmm who Labour contracted with and set their criteria and so on.
I can't see any link to any evidence that this is policy introduced by this Government, but never mind, let's just personalise the issue and make out that IDS would if he could get away with it, go around drowning the disabled.
Lazy, ignorant and dishonest prejudice.
But it passes for intelligent comment in some quarters and is obviously worth repeating because you know, those Tories are just plain evil.
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Lazy, ignorant and dishonest prejudice.
You are a fool.
Every time something unpleasant about this administration surfaces up you pop with silly whataboutery to talk about Labour.
The actions of this government are the responsibility of this government. Labour is another, also often unpleasant, topic.
That you attempt to defend this immoral and disgusting behaviour by throwing up a smokescreen about Labour says something quite shocking about what you are.
You have my contempt.
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I don't care about political parties, so have no interest in who said what or started or finished what, thats just morally wrong
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Lazy, ignorant and dishonest prejudice.
You are a fool.
Every time something unpleasant about this administration surfaces up you pop with silly whataboutery to talk about Labour.
The actions of this government are the responsibility of this government. Labour is another, also often unpleasant, topic.
That you attempt to defend this immoral and disgusting behaviour by throwing up a smokescreen about Labour says something quite shocking about what you are.
You have my contempt.
Let me guess you're a teacher?
As for the whattaboutery, if the article was predicated on Labour's system being shit and the contracts that they signed being deeply malodorous I would ahve to agree, but that wasn't the thrust of the article.
the thrust of the article was 'look what these unpleasnat scum are doing, they'd be building gas chambers if they could get away with it' and personalising the issue as if this was IDS's personal crusade.
This is both wholly dishonest and prejudiced.
If Labout sign contracts which impose certain terms, protocols & etc which will cost xn £100m to avoid and the Tories decide not to piss a few £100m up the way by continuing those contracts that all to do wit hthis government and nothing to do with the last? JFCOAB, if you think like that there's really no hope.
I am in no way defending the fuckwittery of some low level staff who are following the protocol put in place, even though in reality they're not exercising proper discretion or reaching sound conclusions, but to personalise this and blame IDS is a bit like me blaming Blair for never climbing 8a.
If you want to attack the government (and there's plenty of good ground on which so to do) at least come up with an argument which attacks their policies and their actions rather than a part of the pile of shit they picked up from the last government.
I'll ignore your attempt at an insult as I can only assume by the vacuity of your comment you're either pissed or your 9 year old has gained access to your UKB account
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Not sure where to put this but it follows previous posts about Israel-Palestine.
BBC2: The Gatekeepers (http://www.thegatekeepersfilm.com/en.html)
Unbelievable film. Six former heads of Shin Bet talk to camera. Watch it.
Ami Ayalon. Razor sharp.
Found it on Amazon/Lovefilm.
Utterly brilliant. To see these men talking openly to camera about their own experiences and their views on the whole situation was quite remarkable. I'll be encouraging others to watch.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/13/swans-walkabout-police-action (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/13/swans-walkabout-police-action)
I wonder if they used a goose neck to remove them?
(sorry very niche joke)
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Not sure where to put this but it follows previous posts about Israel-Palestine.
BBC2: The Gatekeepers (http://www.thegatekeepersfilm.com/en.html)
Unbelievable film. Six former heads of Shin Bet talk to camera. Watch it.
Ami Ayalon. Razor sharp.
Found it on Amazon/Lovefilm.
Utterly brilliant. To see these men talking openly to camera about their own experiences and their views on the whole situation was quite remarkable. I'll be encouraging others to watch.
Had this on the planner for a while and finally got round to watching it this evening.
Absolutely brilliant and impossible for me to describe in a way that does it justice.
Everyone should see it.
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vox populi, vox dei
It seems that the Tories have finally cracked it with the DailyFailoGram approach, perhaps we'll see them using the line 'lentis give you caner' in Brighton & Bristol.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/17/reckless-vote-will-make-your-home-worth-less-tories-tell-rochester-voters (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/17/reckless-vote-will-make-your-home-worth-less-tories-tell-rochester-voters)
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The end of an era.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/24/madame-jojos-legendary-soho-nightclub-forced-close (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/24/madame-jojos-legendary-soho-nightclub-forced-close)
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Teacher loses job after challenging bullying
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-30222229 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-30222229)
These bloody communists and their opinions, eh? How dare they!
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vox populi, vox dei
It seems that the Tories have finally cracked it with the DailyFailoGram approach, perhaps we'll see them using the line 'lentis give you caner' in Brighton & Bristol.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/17/reckless-vote-will-make-your-home-worth-less-tories-tell-rochester-voters (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/17/reckless-vote-will-make-your-home-worth-less-tories-tell-rochester-voters)
Well that was a brilliant strategy wasn't it?!
:lol:
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Indeed, fuckwitted and vacuous nonsense, I thought Lynton Crosby was supposed to be good, although he may be keeping his powder dry
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Wankers.
I hope they get screwed for costs. JR is not for jejune lower VIth politics.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/02/couple-challenge-ban-heterosexual-civil-partnerships#start-of-comments (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/02/couple-challenge-ban-heterosexual-civil-partnerships#start-of-comments)
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Perhaps - I've no idea of the proper uses of a JR, and they do seem a little precious - but I can't see why civil partnerships shouldn't be much more widely available. In any case they are an anomaly following the legalisation of gay marriage.
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Fucking hell. That could be a Daily Mash article.
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Perhaps - I've no idea of the proper uses of a JR, and they do seem a little precious - but I can't see why civil partnerships shouldn't be much more widely available. In any case they are an anomaly following the legalisation of gay marriage.
A JR is to correct the failing of an arm of the state (or what would be an arm of the state if the existing body did not exist i.e GMC or SRA / Bar Council etc) and an underlying principle is that you need to have suffered a detriment.
This is just right on cock waving and I hope they suffer the consequences.
I am considering a JR gainst the BMC 'cause I can't climb 8c+ (yes Ru, calm down I know the case of Aga Khn vs the Jockey Club)
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To move this from YYFY to the correct place.....
However in the grand scheme of things it's just headline grabbing pissing in the wind and Osborne is a lying cunt.
Indeed, a progressive tax reform.
That should swing the election. YYFY
Jasper, you need to get a grip.
No, I don't actually....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11271845/George-Osborne-has-missed-his-chance-to-end-the-British-disease.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11271845/George-Osborne-has-missed-his-chance-to-end-the-British-disease.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11256784/George-Osbornes-gimmicks-prove-he-is-a-true-disciple-of-Gordon-Brown.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11256784/George-Osbornes-gimmicks-prove-he-is-a-true-disciple-of-Gordon-Brown.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/03/why-has-george-osborne-missed-the-deficit-target (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/03/why-has-george-osborne-missed-the-deficit-target)
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/george-osborne-britain-growth-autumn-statement (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/george-osborne-britain-growth-autumn-statement)
etc etc etc etc
He IS a lying cunt and the stamp duty change is a minor irrelevance. And you know it as well as I do.
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To move this from YYFY to the correct place.....
However in the grand scheme of things it's just headline grabbing pissing in the wind and Osborne is a lying cunt.
Indeed, a progressive tax reform.
That should swing the election. YYFY
Jasper, you need to get a grip.
No, I don't actually....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11271845/George-Osborne-has-missed-his-chance-to-end-the-British-disease.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11271845/George-Osborne-has-missed-his-chance-to-end-the-British-disease.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11256784/George-Osbornes-gimmicks-prove-he-is-a-true-disciple-of-Gordon-Brown.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11256784/George-Osbornes-gimmicks-prove-he-is-a-true-disciple-of-Gordon-Brown.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/03/why-has-george-osborne-missed-the-deficit-target (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/03/why-has-george-osborne-missed-the-deficit-target)
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/george-osborne-britain-growth-autumn-statement (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/george-osborne-britain-growth-autumn-statement)
etc etc etc etc
He IS a lying cunt and the stamp duty change is a minor irrelevance. And you know it as well as I do.
All very well, and true of course; however Sloper is unfortunately right (not the get a grip bit). People, even supposedly intelligent ones, only read headlines.
If anyone ever actually thought about anything, we would have changed our system of government (or at least introduced PR) generations ago.
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Perhaps - I've no idea of the proper uses of a JR, and they do seem a little precious - but I can't see why civil partnerships shouldn't be much more widely available. In any case they are an anomaly following the legalisation of gay marriage.
Absolutely. I'd have had a civil partnership over marriage... Still religious connotations/links in a registry office wedding... I think it's a poorly thought out law/rule.. Gender should not be an issue whatever way...
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Gender is not an issue now, you can now have a penis count of 0/1/2 at a wedding.
Registry office marriages are sans religion.
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To move this from YYFY to the correct place.....
However in the grand scheme of things it's just headline grabbing pissing in the wind and Osborne is a lying cunt.
Indeed, a progressive tax reform.
That should swing the election. YYFY
Jasper, you need to get a grip.
No, I don't actually....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11271845/George-Osborne-has-missed-his-chance-to-end-the-British-disease.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11271845/George-Osborne-has-missed-his-chance-to-end-the-British-disease.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11256784/George-Osbornes-gimmicks-prove-he-is-a-true-disciple-of-Gordon-Brown.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11256784/George-Osbornes-gimmicks-prove-he-is-a-true-disciple-of-Gordon-Brown.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/03/why-has-george-osborne-missed-the-deficit-target (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/03/why-has-george-osborne-missed-the-deficit-target)
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/george-osborne-britain-growth-autumn-statement (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/george-osborne-britain-growth-autumn-statement)
etc etc etc etc
He IS a lying cunt and the stamp duty change is a minor irrelevance. And you know it as well as I do.
You seem to be labouring under the misaprehension that everything that would allow the target to be hit/missed was in Boy george's gift. This is simply risible.
Politician 'promising' to do something which does not then transpire does not make the politician a liar: optimistic, misguided, niaeve and so on might be proper but to call him a lying cvnt simply shows that you put your prejudice over and above any rational assessment of the subject.
Was Geoff Hoon lyign when he said that he hoped the troops would leave Afghanistan without a shot being fired? No, I don't think he was, that was probably his genuine animus, was he bonkers / ignorant of the usual course of events in Afghanistan? Yes absolutely.
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You didn't actually read any of those articles did you. It's not as simple as missing one target it's the utter bollocks he's come out with since day one and which he continues to come out with.
I realise there's no point in looking at the facts though, your prejudice prevents such things from being important. However (e.g):
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-accused-of-lying-to-parliament-on-his-hard-line-against-corporate-tax-avoiders-9692327.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-accused-of-lying-to-parliament-on-his-hard-line-against-corporate-tax-avoiders-9692327.html)
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/about-that-eu-bill-heres-what-george-osborne-didnt-mention/ (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/about-that-eu-bill-heres-what-george-osborne-didnt-mention/)
Yeah yeah, "optimistic, misguided and naive"?
No, he's a lying cunt.
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Do you understand what lying actually means?
Ask Ralf, he'll explain it to you, you might also delegate the responsibility of debating politics to him too. :-*
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I suppose you'd stand more of a chance trying to convince an almost 8 year old that George Osborne isn't a cunt than any sane adult, but I still think you'd struggle.
Who's Ralf btw? You've added a random "l". ;)
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You're perfectly entitled to believe he's a cvnt, it's the lying bit that was out of order.
Anyway, see you for a pint some time comrade.
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So is he accidentally using incorrect figures then Sloper? He's either purposefully misleading (I.e. Fibbing) or incompetent.
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I believe the turn of phrase those in power use when lying is being 'economical with the truth'...
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Rather than start a new thread I thought this one might be an appropriate place for this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4K7BkRCYAAG-FB.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/541200542224384000
Caption competition?
"What do you mean I have to pay? Don't you know who I am you fucking pleb?"
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Oh you're polish?
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The cheap foie gras will be fine, it's only Sloper coming round for dinner.
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Can we play the same game will Ed Miliband and Ed Balls or would that be childish and pathetic?
<bacon sandwich>
<comb over>
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"for the sake of the cameras can you sell me some Scottish Brie?"
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"and show me the paperwork that confirms that you have the right to remain and work in this country"
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Do you sell Albanian Coffee? I got a bargain Albanian Coffee Maker on Black Friday, an absolute steal!
She's called Adelina and can't read English instructions, unfortunately. >:(
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NhvRl5z-Fpg/VIN5kz04euI/AAAAAAAABI8/Qd6TM055atw/w900-h700-no/Cameron%2Bshop%2B1.tif)
'The takings bitch and nobody gets hurt OK!'
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Surely she is just saying "Sod off you slimy Git and sell some insurance/used cars/pay day loans/dodgy political policies/anti-disabled rhetoric, to your Bullingdon chums"...
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'Do you sell diesel? I hear it's a good off prescription treatment for crabs'
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Just another day at the Chipping Norton food bank.
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The first Police force to go bankrupt. Thank you Ms May and Mr Cameron, you are such an inspiration.
Bear in mind this is a Tory newspaper reporting this story, even the Torygraph is stuggling to understand these clowns...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11276719/First-police-force-faces-going-out-of-business.html
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Rather than start a new thread I thought this one might be an appropriate place for this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4K7BkRCYAAG-FB.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/541200542224384000
Caption competition?
"What do you mean I have to pay? Don't you know who I am you fucking pleb?"
They write their own captions, this bunch of comedians...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-baroness-slammed-saying-poor-4767987
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£2.50 for a small bowl (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2014/dec/09/cereal-killer-cafe-london-breakfast?commentpage=1)
It's an article about a couple of guys who've set up a cafe on Brick Lane that only sells breakfast cereal. Before you click the link have a guess at what it's called and what the proprietors might look like.
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Before you click the link have a guess at what it's called and what the proprietors might look like.
2/2 for me :smartass:
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Got the name, disappointed by lack of topknots.
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I guessed top knots and beards.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30424338 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30424338)
What?
Are you kidding me?
We're in the UK not bloody New York
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The usual rent a mob twats and twatesses looking for an agenda: nothing to see here, they'll move onto the next cause before long and in 9 months time few will even remember who the deceased was.
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It's not the first time.
There seem to be a large number of people who struggle with the concept that "the Police" are not a single World Wide organisation (ever seen the average tourist rock up at the Gendarmerie to report a stolen wallet and be all bemused by the frosty welcome/Bums rush)?
Worse, I recently spoke to a local teenager (over 18) who, despite appearing quite normal for the breed; thought we were the same country as America and that Obama was our president (although he seemed to think his name was Barry).
Clearly, the PCC for the MET should resign...
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Got the name, disappointed by lack of topknots.
An update: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cereal-killer-cafe-owner-cuts-short-interview-after-he-is-grilled-about-his-prices-9918454.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cereal-killer-cafe-owner-cuts-short-interview-after-he-is-grilled-about-his-prices-9918454.html)
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I ended up watching that yesterday; the bit where he starts defending the place as 'cheap around here' sums up the dichotomy of that bit of London nicely.
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They say there's no such thing as bad publicity and they couldn't have had more free advertising....
The best thing I've seen about it all was this tweet:
https://twitter.com/LukeHaines_News/status/543023885349027840
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:agree:
Did anyone watch Brand and Farage? I gave it a wide berth!
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Watched a bit. Farage came across as a slimy sod, Brand came across as Brand..
Best bit was Brand's description of Farage as being "a poundshop Enoch Powell".
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They say there's no such thing as bad publicity and they couldn't have had more free advertising....
The best thing I've seen about it all was this tweet:
https://twitter.com/LukeHaines_News/status/543023885349027840
The 'poor area' of London is the wrong angle for that Cereal Killer Cafe news thing. The real question is 'Why are you such cunts?'
:D
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They say there's no such thing as bad publicity and they couldn't have had more free advertising....
The best thing I've seen about it all was this tweet:
https://twitter.com/LukeHaines_News/status/543023885349027840
The 'poor area' of London is the wrong angle for that Cereal Killer Cafe news thing. The real question is 'Why are you such cunts?'
:D
Ha,the genius that is Luke Haines :bow: makes an appearance on UKB! His book about Britpop,"Bad Vibes" is very funny and album "Off My Rocker At The Art School Hop" a bitter,twisted mini-masterpiece.
He does come across as the solar sysem's most cantankerous cunt though....
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They say there's no such thing as bad publicity and they couldn't have had more free advertising....
Tell that to Mr Ratner...
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Worse, I recently spoke to a local teenager (over 18) who, despite appearing quite normal for the breed; thought we were the same country as America and that Obama was our president (although he seemed to think his name was Barry).
This reminded of this (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/03/07/gemma-worrall-barraco-barner_n_4918837.html)...
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Ha,the genius that is Luke Haines :bow:
Legend. "After Murder Park" was a vital record of my teenage years.
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So it seems that we did collude in extraordinary rendition and torture and that Straw, Hoon and Miliband (D) lied to the House.
Well I never.
That will make conversation around the Straw dinner table interesting this Christmas 'so Daddy what DID you do in the war against terrorism?'
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/12/british-agents-odd-case-cia-torture-lord-west (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/12/british-agents-odd-case-cia-torture-lord-west)
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https://twitter.com/chrismooney/status/543693436860526592
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Quality!
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The question is, is this actually bad publicity for UKIP?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30467897 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30467897)
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The question is, is this actually bad publicity for UKIP?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30467897 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30467897)
God knows, but if he worked in the media he'd be toast.
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Up to 50 hostages bring held in a Sydney coffee shop. Possibly / probably Islamic extremists. It's in pretty much all your media as well as ours. A scary development for Australia.
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Yeah pretty nuts. Happened at about 10am this morning. Airport shut, Opera House evacuated and on lockdown, Harbour Bridge was closed for most of the day. Flat mate was hanging off the side of the building next door and was politley asked to get the fuck off the ropes....
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Looks like a good resolution to the seige.
now back on domestic matters.
Internal Labour document poorly drafted and incoherent, JCFOAB how are they going to cope when the election campaign actually kicks off!
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/15/miliband-labour-immigration-document (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/15/miliband-labour-immigration-document)
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So it seems that we did collude in extraordinary rendition and torture and that Straw, Hoon and Miliband (D) lied to the House.
Well I never.
That will make conversation around the Straw dinner table interesting this Christmas 'so Daddy what DID you do in the war against terrorism?'
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/12/british-agents-odd-case-cia-torture-lord-west (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/12/british-agents-odd-case-cia-torture-lord-west)
In what universe did anyone with half a brain not know that we were colluding with a bunch of scary, rightwing, evangelical capitalo-christians who believed they were doing God's Work; and that anything they were doing was therefore justified?
Blair lied, Straw lied, everybody lied. But let's not get party political about this: all of the major parties backed the whole Iraq/ Afghanistan package, and the fallout from it was always something that was going to need to be "managed" by Parliament.
No grown-up ever believed that Sadam had a 45 minute biological weapon missile capacity.
No adult could possibly have thought John Reid wasn't lying through his teeth when he said the British Army's deployment to Afghanistan was not combat deployment (Oh how I laugh as I remember myself screaming "You lying cunt" at the radio, at the time).
There was always going to be a day of reckoning with regard to the west deeply compromising itself by engaging in illegal wars and torture. And everybody knows that that is what we did.
Parliament will cover its own and the lying and squirming will allow the non-parties and the loonies (Brand, UKIP etc.) to shout "Establishment" and "Cover Up" and "Broken Politics" and "Other Soundbite".
Oooooh it make me mad it does.
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JCFOAB
Could you please put me out of my misery and explain what this means?!
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It means I can' type, it should be JFCOAB.
I hope that helps ;)
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So it seems that we did collude in extraordinary rendition and torture and that Straw, Hoon and Miliband (D) lied to the House.
Well I never.
That will make conversation around the Straw dinner table interesting this Christmas 'so Daddy what DID you do in the war against terrorism?'
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/12/british-agents-odd-case-cia-torture-lord-west (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/12/british-agents-odd-case-cia-torture-lord-west)
In what universe did anyone with half a brain not know that we were colluding with a bunch of scary, rightwing, evangelical capitalo-christians who believed they were doing God's Work; and that anything they were doing was therefore justified?
Blair lied, Straw lied, everybody lied. But let's not get party political about this: all of the major parties backed the whole Iraq/ Afghanistan package, and the fallout from it was always something that was going to need to be "managed" by Parliament.
No grown-up ever believed that Sadam had a 45 minute biological weapon missile capacity.
No adult could possibly have thought John Reid wasn't lying through his teeth when he said the British Army's deployment to Afghanistan was not combat deployment (Oh how I laugh as I remember myself screaming "You lying cunt" at the radio, at the time).
There was always going to be a day of reckoning with regard to the west deeply compromising itself by engaging in illegal wars and torture. And everybody knows that that is what we did.
Parliament will cover its own and the lying and squirming will allow the non-parties and the loonies (Brand, UKIP etc.) to shout "Establishment" and "Cover Up" and "Broken Politics" and "Other Soundbite".
Oooooh it make me mad it does.
Joe, some of what you say is spot on, but let's face it Blair had his share of Christian nutters in Cabinet too, Ruth Kelly was from memory a fully paid up member of Opus Dei and I don't think she was the only one.
But when you say let's not get party political about it, you're talking shite.
Party politics is about what you do with power when the policy is within your gift: one of the reasons Brown has got such little flak over his response to the near meltdown in the banking system is that the events were not in his control and the solution not wholly within his gift (compare this with the stick he's got over abolishing the role of the BoE and the failed triparite regime he imposed on day one when taking office).
Labour were in office, had control over the evidence (maliciously and malignantly as we know) and as such the decision to go war was in essence their fiat: compare this with the situation in 1991 or in 1982.
The decisions to go along with the extraordinary rendition was a party political choice, the decision to lie about it was a party political choice just as the imposition of the community charge or poll tax on the Scots first was a party political choice.
Politics requires actions to have reactions, whether equal and opposite, commensurate or disproportionate; to try and suggest otherwise demeans politics and democracy as if there are no consequences then politics no longer matters and we've seen what dreadful things can happen when the art of the possible is lost and we move on to the continuation of politics by other means.
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Sloper with regards to Iraq/Afghanistan, lying re WMD, Rendition, torture, could you have seen a Conservative govt taking different actions?
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There is nothing new or party political about any of it.
It has happened before, it will happen again.
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It means I can' type, it should be JFCOAB.
I hope that helps ;)
jesus fin christ on a bicycle ?
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Jiggling fish corpses on a baguette?
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Sloper with regards to Iraq/Afghanistan, lying re WMD, Rendition, torture, could you have seen a Conservative govt taking different actions?
Yes, with regard to the lies, the rendition and torture yes, you only have to look at the speeches made by the like of David Davis and many others.
When 'we' were under regular actual attack by the IRA in the 1980s when Willie Whitelaw was asked by the police for more anti-terror laws he told them to go away and use the ones that they already had, compare that with Blair's approach.
I think that the Tories would have gone into Afghanistan, Iraq I think not.
The it doesn't matter what Labour did the Tories would have done the same / been worse doesn't really wash either as an excuse for Labour or in reality.
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There is nothing new or party political about any of it.
It has happened before, it will happen again.
Yes it has happened before, Kenya 1956, Northern Ireland 1970s and it may happen again in the future, but to say it isn't party political is bunkum.
You might as well say that the government response to the miners strike in 198-5 would have been the same if Labour were in office.
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Slopers, if even half the rumors that went around our circles in the late 80's early 90's were true; that is way off. Have you forgotten Gibraltar?
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No, but 'death on the rock' was a fictional account of the operation, what is not in doubt (it was accepted by the IRA at the time) is that those that were shot were members of an active service unit of the IRA on a mission.
The choice to engage or not would have been delegated down to those on the ground, there would have been no O group to say engage and no ministerial or quasi ministerial involvement.
Could the extraordinary renditions happen without effectively the state knowing? No.
SO Gibraltar was quite different from the actions of allowing extraordinary rendition to states where it was known torture was routinely used.
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JCFOAB
Could you please put me out of my misery and explain what this means?!
It's Jaded Conservative Fuckwit Orates Absolute Bollocks.
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next you'll be trying to tell me that "who dares wins" was a fictional account of dealing with the evil menace that is CND
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I heard that we need a trident replacement to deal with a threat called Spectre...
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This is beginning to get a bit ranty. None of us know what would have happened if the tories had been in. I actually was broadly in agreement with Sloper's post. Of course we must try to use the Law to bring Blair, Straw, Reid, Milliband (D) etc to justice. My real fear is that Parliament, Whitehall (The Establishment) will minimise the fallout of any attempt to get to the truth this will inturn lead to further erosion of confidence in our democracy in general. For example I cannot think of any way I could be convinced that the investigation into the "dodgy dossier" and the subsequent death of Dr Kelly was not a whitewash. And frankly I don't feel good about that. It tilts me towards the conspiracy theorist end of the political spectrum and I don't have a cellar for "prepping" in.
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And if I did it would be full of wine.
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Falklands, miners strike - all examples of probably govt cover ups of all sorts of nasties... But it won't get out until most of those are involved have died - because parliament and possibly our democratic system would have been stirred up/chaos etc...
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When 'we' were under regular actual attack by the IRA in the 1980s when Willie Whitelaw was asked by the police for more anti-terror laws he told them to go away and use the ones that they already had, compare that with Blair's approach.
Teresa May ::)
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This is beginning to get a bit ranty. None of us know what would have happened if the tories had been in. I actually was broadly in agreement with Sloper's post. Of course we must try to use the Law to bring Blair, Straw, Reid, Milliband (D) etc to justice. My real fear is that Parliament, Whitehall (The Establishment) will minimise the fallout of any attempt to get to the truth this will inturn lead to further erosion of confidence in our democracy in general. For example I cannot think of any way I could be convinced that the investigation into the "dodgy dossier" and the subsequent death of Dr Kelly was not a whitewash. And frankly I don't feel good about that. It tilts me towards the conspiracy theorist end of the political spectrum and I don't have a cellar for "prepping" in.
The evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of the death of Dr Kelly being suicide. Try reading Vodoo Histories, from memory it covers this very well.
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Oh Sloper, I'm sure he killed himself. That doesn't mean others weren't culpable. Was his reaction to being outed foreseeable by those who did it? Like I've already said the effects of spin and dirty tricks are corrosive.
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Sorry, i thought you were suggesting that his suicide was murder (as many do) apologies, so very busy I don't even have time to troll.
But yes, the way his name was revealed was a disgrace and have now doubt who was i/c and approved the naming of Kelly.
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Yes, with regard to the lies, the rendition and torture yes, you only have to look at the speeches made by the like of David Davis and many others.
DD to his credit spends much of his time criticising his own party's policies. What he says is no measure whatsoever of how his colleagues think and act. One good apple etc.
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It isn't just DD though is it? It is Ken Clarke, Pat McLoughlin, Sir Peter Tapsell, Ed Timpson (elected 2009?), William Hague and others.
Of course there were those who voiced oppisition to the anti terror bills on the Labour side but far fewer in number and less strident in their opposition.
Let's just look at the Acts passed in 13 years of Labour government vs 18 years of Tory Government shall we?
The scales are not finely balanced, there is no comparison between volume and erosion of civil liberties at all, there is an overwhelming weight of evidence that Labour tends to introduce draconian 'anti terror' legislation and the Tories tend abolish it. Does anyone remember the people who were arrested for solelmly reading the names of our war dead at teh Cenotaph?
The refrain which can be inferred from the usual suspects i.e. 'well the tories are just nasty and would have been nastier than Labour' just evinces a lack of knowledge of the subject and/or an inability to construct a proper argument. It is the 8a.nu of political debate.
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evinces a lack of knowledge of the subject and/or an inability to construct a proper argument.
this boils my piss
you well know that winning a proper argument (or even being right) counts for fuck all in this so-called democracy
the slimy newts at the controls will continue to do whatever they want to whomever they want
the most I can hope to achieve is to beat Russell Brand to a pulp with my bare hands on live TV - yeah, that's what I'll set as my new years resolution - that'll help
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Your such a looser.
As a fully paid up shape shifting member of the New World Order, it is I who decide the temperature of your urine.
PS, I reckon Russell Brand would have you.
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The refrain which can be inferred from the usual suspects i.e. 'well the tories are just nasty and would have been nastier than Labour' just evinces a lack of knowledge of the subject and/or an inability to construct a proper argument. It is the 8a.nu of political debate.
Bum cheeks. As far as I'm concerned they are both as shit as each other, give or take a few fuck alls when it comes to the creeping erosion of civil liberties. What your comment evinces is your inability to imagine anyone having near equal contempt for both sides.
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I can understand the contempt, the ignorance is more difficult to appreciate.
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I reckon Russell Brand would have you.
I'll be happy to take your money on the night
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Ignorance of what? The minutia of who did what in Westminster? Any ignorance there is because the world is big and full of lots of things to know, time is limited and studying the fine detail of Labour/Tory party politics is not top of my give-a-shit-about list. Don't get me wrong if I thought either side where better than a lost cause I might care more. Still finding it difficult to appreciate? It's a waste of my time, they are largely a facile bunch of faceless meat puppets. Slavishly chasing every banal utterance they excrete is a boring way to kill brain cells.
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I reckon Russell Brand would have you.
I'll be happy to take your money on the night
It would be an absolute sell out (no pun intended) and more than worth the risk of a £5 loss, who could we have on the under card? Jeremy Clarkson vs Piers Moron, that should be good for a few punters Dianne Abbot vs Nigel Farage, again a strong sell on that one, plus an international match up, Putin vs Mandleson (a dirty grudge match)
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Ignorance of what? The minutia of who did what in Westminster? Any ignorance there is because the world is big and full of lots of things to know, time is limited and studying the fine detail of Labour/Tory party politics is not top of my give-a-shit-about list. Don't get me wrong if I thought either side where better than a lost cause I might care more. Still finding it difficult to appreciate? It's a waste of my time, they are largely a facile bunch of faceless meat puppets. Slavishly chasing every banal utterance they excrete is a boring way to kill brain cells.
it's hardly the minutia, it's basic knowledge of the constitution and how we're governed and hardly requires a knowlegde of the attempts to recant from the magna carta; it was plastered all over the Guardain, BBC, Telegraph and so on for the ebst part of a decade, did you miss it?
In short, are you saying you don't care how and by whom you're governed and therefore ignorance is bliss? I take it you're entirely happy with the consequences of your state of disengagement and will 'suck up' what ever policies the government enacts because you can't be bothered. . . . and people wonder how extremist parties get their votes.
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What are you crapping on about man? How on earth can you infer what I do or don't know about those or any subject from the recent and minor contributions I've made to this thread? Your assumption vis-a-vis my ignorance comes from a position of almost complete ignorance of mine. I don't recall making anything other than a passing observation regards a comment of yours and some critique of your casual insults. All you could possible infer from which is that I don't much like the two big teams, though I do have time for individuals on both sides and I take minor issue with your crass hypocrisy. You need to get some new thinking glasses.
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My commetn was based on your statement 'As far as I'm concerned they are both as shit as each other, give or take a few fuck alls' and your earlier allusion to the fact that the Tories would have behaved in the same manner.
Maybe you need to express yourself a little more clearly.
If it was a long lunch I hope it was a good one (I had to cancel mine and am rather put out by the absence of a few oysters and glass of wine etc) that and I've had a day of dealing with fuckign twats (and I do not include you in that category) who are 'going to have it all over the daily mail' etc etc chiz, yawn & etc
I will refrain from posting later as I am in a bad mood and may have a beer on the way home.
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Sloper with regards to Iraq/Afghanistan, lying re WMD, Rendition, torture, could you have seen a Conservative govt taking different actions?
Yes, with regard to the lies, the rendition and torture yes, you only have to look at the speeches made by the like of David Davis and many others.
I assume you know that that recent redacted report named over 100 countries who were complicit in the rendition (and therefore the torture), so it seems a bit unlikely we would have been left out...
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Ignorance of what? The minutia of who did what in Westminster? Any ignorance there is because the world is big and full of lots of things to know, time is limited and studying the fine detail of Labour/Tory party politics is not top of my give-a-shit-about list. Don't get me wrong if I thought either side where better than a lost cause I might care more. Still finding it difficult to appreciate? It's a waste of my time, they are largely a facile bunch of faceless meat puppets. Slavishly chasing every banal utterance they excrete is a boring way to kill brain cells.
You might appreciate this:
http://jacobstringer.com/the-dick-theory-of-society/ (http://jacobstringer.com/the-dick-theory-of-society/)
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I just don't know how to respond to you, Slopes, without getting too specific. But many equally questionable things happened to my certain knowledge, under both Thatcher and Major.
The only difference that I can see is one of Media attention.
And I'd say that is a product of the Internet/Wikileaks era we now live in that we did not then.
So, no, not party politics; only Realpolitik.
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I think we need to draw a distinction between things that are 'morally questionable' and torture which is, along with crimes against humanity in a special class of offences which is deemed so serious that it is triable regardless of the jurisdiction: as such there is no comparison between morally questionable activities and things that are exceptionally offensive.
We also need to distinguish between matters which occured but were outwith the chain of command or allowed at junior officer level (these can never be prevented) and matters which occur because they are directed / facilitated by the state / quasi state: the use of diego garcia & refueling of CIA flights in the UK would have required a certain level of authority and acquiescence at least.
In a political system, all politics is party politics: the defence of real politik is a very weak one, if indeed it is a defence at all (I tend to consider it not to be a defence).
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I agree, wholeheartedly, with your sentiment. I wish the world were otherwise.
I admire your faith in the law and concur with it's (your faith's) noble ambitions.
I do not share your faith in the upper echelons of the chain of command.
I have reason to state, categorically, that it is misplaced.
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I agree, wholeheartedly, with your sentiment. I wish the world were otherwise.
I admire your faith in the law and concur with it's (your faith's) noble ambitions.
I do not share your faith in the upper echelons of the chain of command.
I have reason to state, categorically, that it is misplaced.
'Gentlment sleep easy in their beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf' is an adage that is as true today as when Blair wrote it in the 1930s; however I think that there is a categorical diffence in the present case than the former cases as the memoranda found in Libya attest.
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Indeed, a progressive tax reform.
That should swing the election. YYFY
LOL!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/17/labour-five-point-poll-lead-tories (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/17/labour-five-point-poll-lead-tories)
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LOL!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/17/labour-five-point-poll-lead-tories (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/17/labour-five-point-poll-lead-tories)
Ooh.. it's getting interesting at the top going into the January transfer window... wonder if City will try to sign a short-term replacement for Agüero (Balliotelli anyone..)? Who plays in purple?
:blink:
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Indeed, a progressive tax reform.
That should swing the election. YYFY
LOL!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/17/labour-five-point-poll-lead-tories (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/17/labour-five-point-poll-lead-tories)
You're old enough to remember the 1992 election, remind me how far ahead was Kinnock 6 months before the election (and that's without the Scottish factor, the Kippers and the fact that the 1992 election was held int he shadow of a deep recession and 13 years of tory government).
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That's not the point, at all. :wall:
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Well what is the point then?
Is it that Labour's position (when in opposition) has always weakened in the 6 months before the GE?
Is it because Ed Miliband is recagred as a statesman like figure with strong economic credibility?
Is it because the economy is tanking?
Is it because you're desparate for Labour to win?
Methinks the last option.
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The economy has flatlined.
Debt has increased and the Torys have failed on their promise to remove the deficit. This is despite the largest and most rapid privatisation program the UK has ever seen.
I don't really want any of them to win, but I think an outright Tory govt would be a disaster for this country. A complete disaster.
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To be fair to the scumbag tories this is surely a reflection on how chronically fucked the economic system was/is - I fail to understand how scumsucking labour would have done any better shifting the deficit with their policies. You may as well argue over who's most to blame for obesity (fat cunts, obviously).
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Sloper,
Come on!
Thatcher, for all her faults, had dragged the country out of the crap that was the 70's (which I remember well, despite being a kid). That was still fresh in people's minds in 92. The ten year anniversary of the Falklands conflict didn't hurt either. Many people had only just closed on their half price council house.
Then and now.
A world apart.
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To be fair to the scumbag tories this is surely a reflection on how chronically fucked the economic system was/is - I fail to understand how scumsucking labour would have done any better shifting the deficit with their policies. You may as well argue over who's most to blame for obesity (fat cunts, obviously).
I disagree.
Yes the fundamentals are/were fucking shit. But stealth privatisation of NHS, full privatisation of probation service, 9k student loans.. Unemployment down because 1m are now 'self employed' (on a benefit a bit less than dole) = massively reduced tax returns despite dropping unemployment. Bedroom tax, disabled reassessment scandal, punitive measures for not seeking a job hard enough, ridiculous and failed migration targets.. U turns on renewable energy, farce over badger culls and flood management. Destruction of the RDA's (that help generate growth) and swingeing cuts on local councils.. Gove and his destruction of school morale, free/faith schools and the privatisation of free public education via the academy system. Botched deals for future nuclear power, a pair of overpriced aircraft carriers (with no planes until 2022). Oh and Trident - clinging to our last vestiges of being a colonial power (France is just as bad).
Much of this would NOT have happened under a different government (some might but most wouldn't) and I very much doubt whether all the above has saved the nation much at all.
That aside I loathe the way the Torys have polarised debates. Scrounges vs Strivers, the migration debate - it turns the population into those who have or have not, those that can or can not. Turns neighbour against neighbour, Van man against pole etc.. Bastards. Fucking bastards.
And this pit of gloom and anger provides the melting pot for scum like UKIP.
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To be fair to the scumbag tories this is surely a reflection on how chronically fucked the economic system was/is - I fail to understand how scumsucking labour would have done any better shifting the deficit with their policies. You may as well argue over who's most to blame for obesity (fat cunts, obviously).
I disagree.
Yes the fundamentals are/were fucking shit. But stealth privatisation of NHS, full privatisation of probation service, 9k student loans.. Unemployment down because 1m are now 'self employed' (on a benefit a bit less than dole) = massively reduced tax returns despite dropping unemployment. Bedroom tax, disabled reassessment scandal, punitive measures for not seeking a job hard enough, ridiculous and failed migration targets.. U turns on renewable energy, farce over badger culls and flood management. Destruction of the RDA's (that help generate growth) and swingeing cuts on local councils.. Gove and his destruction of school morale, free/faith schools and the privatisation of free public education via the academy system. Botched deals for future nuclear power, a pair of overpriced aircraft carriers (with no planes until 2022). Oh and Trident - clinging to our last vestiges of being a colonial power (France is just as bad).
Much of this would NOT have happened under a different government (some might but most wouldn't) and I very much doubt whether all the above has saved the nation much at all.
That aside I loathe the way the Torys have polarised debates. Scrounges vs Strivers, the migration debate - it turns the population into those who have or have not, those that can or can not. Turns neighbour against neighbour, Van man against pole etc.. Bastards. Fucking bastards.
And this pit of gloom and anger provides the melting pot for scum like UKIP.
What Tom said...
By previous standards, I should be a prime Tory supporter. Former Military, turned Chartered Engineer, turned entrepreneur/businessman etc.
But these last few years really stick in the craw. It's been a long, endless succession of "bash the weak", pander to the Sun Reader/Mail Reader's most bigoted, rancid, fetishes and blatant grabbing of public services, on the cheap, by cronies.
Would I want a labour govt?
No.
Not really.
But it's got to be better than this bunch of Hoorays and infinitely preferable to UKunts dire promises.
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The economy has flatlined.
Debt has increased and the Torys have failed on their promise to remove the deficit. This is despite the largest and most rapid privatisation program the UK has ever seen.
I don't really want any of them to win, but I think an outright Tory govt would be a disaster for this country. A complete disaster.
The economy flat lining? Are you on drugs / taking the piss? The economy is growing strongly despite strong headwinds and has been since (from memory) 2013.
Unemployment is coming down far faster than expected.
Inflation is stable.
Ohh and the debt rising? You do what a deficit is don't you Tom? Of course the gross debt will rise, it will rise even when we're in surplus for a while as we'll be paying interest on the debt.
The most rapid privatisation prog.? Again a little historical fact might not go amis here, are you aware of Thatcher, or of the (part) privatisation of things like the Air Traffic COntrol Service under Labour?
Yes the deficit has not been eradicated as planned; mainly due to reduced tax take: would you have rather that Boy George, when tax receipts were lower than predicted cut even more 'savagely'?
In short, you're talking utter drivel.
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To be fair to the scumbag tories this is surely a reflection on how chronically fucked the economic system was/is - I fail to understand how scumsucking labour would have done any better shifting the deficit with their policies. You may as well argue over who's most to blame for obesity (fat cunts, obviously).
I disagree.
Yes the fundamentals are/were fucking shit. But stealth privatisation of NHS, full privatisation of probation service, 9k student loans.. Unemployment down because 1m are now 'self employed' (on a benefit a bit less than dole) = massively reduced tax returns despite dropping unemployment. Bedroom tax, disabled reassessment scandal, punitive measures for not seeking a job hard enough, ridiculous and failed migration targets.. U turns on renewable energy, farce over badger culls and flood management. Destruction of the RDA's (that help generate growth) and swingeing cuts on local councils.. Gove and his destruction of school morale, free/faith schools and the privatisation of free public education via the academy system. Botched deals for future nuclear power, a pair of overpriced aircraft carriers (with no planes until 2022). Oh and Trident - clinging to our last vestiges of being a colonial power (France is just as bad).
Much of this would NOT have happened under a different government (some might but most wouldn't) and I very much doubt whether all the above has saved the nation much at all.
That aside I loathe the way the Torys have polarised debates. Scrounges vs Strivers, the migration debate - it turns the population into those who have or have not, those that can or can not. Turns neighbour against neighbour, Van man against pole etc.. Bastards. Fucking bastards.
And this pit of gloom and anger provides the melting pot for scum like UKIP.
stealth privatisation of the NHS, (not that I agree but for the sake of argument let's say you're right) is the continuation of Labour policy and under the aegis of legislation enacted by Labour.
9k student fees? Yes, who introduced fees? Labour. Who commenced the review that led to the increase? Labour. (for the record I think fees are a very bad thing).
Privatisation of Probation (lunacy on stilts).
Bedroom tax, a thoroughly good thing in my view.
Employment, a very mixed bag but the recent stats show that most jobs are full time & etc.
Disabled work assessments, more Labour policy, Labour legislation and contracts signed by Labour, and your point is what?
Punative measures against those on the dole? Come off it. Not even a starter for 10.
Emily Thornton tweet re Vanman, god I could go on, but I think I've said enough.
The rest of your post is just noise, like a toddler screaming because it's bedtime, I can understand you're upset but you do need to appreciate that your perspective is a little bit flawed.
But in any event, Labour would have done everything that the Tories have done ehh Bonjoy? :-[
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My point was that you suggested the autumn statement was a sure fire vote winner when the exact opposite has happened.
You were wrong. I found that amusing. That was all.
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Opinion polls are not votes.
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To be fair to the scumbag tories this is surely a reflection on how chronically fucked the economic system was/is - I fail to understand how scumsucking labour would have done any better shifting the deficit with their policies. You may as well argue over who's most to blame for obesity (fat cunts, obviously).
I disagree.
Yes the fundamentals are/were fucking shit. But stealth privatisation of NHS, full privatisation of probation service, 9k student loans.. Unemployment down because 1m are now 'self employed' (on a benefit a bit less than dole) = massively reduced tax returns despite dropping unemployment. Bedroom tax, disabled reassessment scandal, punitive measures for not seeking a job hard enough, ridiculous and failed migration targets.. U turns on renewable energy, farce over badger culls and flood management. Destruction of the RDA's (that help generate growth) and swingeing cuts on local councils.. Gove and his destruction of school morale, free/faith schools and the privatisation of free public education via the academy system. Botched deals for future nuclear power, a pair of overpriced aircraft carriers (with no planes until 2022). Oh and Trident - clinging to our last vestiges of being a colonial power (France is just as bad).
Much of this would NOT have happened under a different government (some might but most wouldn't) and I very much doubt whether all the above has saved the nation much at all.
That aside I loathe the way the Torys have polarised debates. Scrounges vs Strivers, the migration debate - it turns the population into those who have or have not, those that can or can not. Turns neighbour against neighbour, Van man against pole etc.. Bastards. Fucking bastards.
And this pit of gloom and anger provides the melting pot for scum like UKIP.
TT, my point is that the deficit would be the deficit would be the deficit regardless of whichever tribe of bozos are in power. In the context of talking about reducing deficit/debt I don't give a shit about the rest of that ideological stuff you mention.
I just fail to believe that Labour have any magic powers that are going to make any significant difference cf. the tories when it comes to bailing out an ocean of debt with a small pump. They're not worth voting for, none of them, I'd vote for Brand in an instant and I think he's a idealist bellend.
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I do wish people would understand the difference between deficit and debt.
It's a bit like the difference between accelleration and velocity.
Imagine the debt in 2010 was Nil, but the deficit that year was £10Bn, (assuming for the exercise the interst rate is 5%)
In 2011 the debt is £10.5 Bn but the deficit was £7.5Bn,
In 2012 the debt is £18.9Bn and the deficit was £5Bn.
In 2013 the debt is £25Bn and the deficitit was £3Bn
In 2014 the debt will be £29.4Bn and the deficit is Nil
In 2015 the debt will be £30.9Bn
You cannot reduce the debt until the surplus is > the interest on the debt.
What is it about politics that turns otherwise educated and intelligent people into fucktards who will refuse to acknowledge what is staring them in the face and refuse to engage with the evidence?
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I don't know Sloper. Why can't you?😜
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What is it about politics that turns otherwise educated and intelligent people into fucktards who will refuse to acknowledge what is staring them in the face and refuse to engage with the evidence?
I don't know, why don't you tell us given your self-aggrandising role as Oracle and ultimate authority on everything?
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I heard a guy on R4 last week talking about how the UK govt could currently be borrowing at zero or negative interest rates. This sort of thing is incredibly hard to search for, has anyone read anything about this recently?
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I'd like to borrow a fuckton of money at negative interest
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I'd like to borrow a fuckton of money at negative interest
Whats the present fuckton to fuckall exchange rate?
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I'd like to borrow a fuckton of money at negative interest
Whats the present fuckton to fuckall exchange rate?
In Roubles, about 60% less than it was a month ago.
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What is it about politics that turns otherwise educated and intelligent people into fucktards who will refuse to acknowledge what is staring them in the face and refuse to engage with the evidence?
I don't know, why don't you tell us given your self-aggrandising role as Oracle and ultimate authority on everything?
Ego, tribal allegiance and the discomfort caused by cognitive dissoance would be my proposition. (the proportions being variable from case to case)
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I do wish people would understand the difference between deficit and debt.
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You cannot reduce the debt until the surplus is > the interest on the debt.
What is it about politics that turns otherwise educated and intelligent people into fucktards who will refuse to acknowledge what is staring them in the face and refuse to engage with the evidence?
Brilliant point slopes, except that many measurements of the deficit include interest payments on the debt. So by those measures, once the deficit goes, the debt starts to go down. It’s the 'primary budget deficit’ that has interest payments subtracted.
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I'd like to borrow a fuckton of money at negative interest
Whats the present fuckton to fuckall exchange rate?
In Roubles, about 60% less than it was a month ago.
I strongly suspect some of the major banks have been systematically manipulating the fuckton to fuckall situation (AKA FFS)...
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I do wish people would understand the difference between deficit and debt.
I'm fully aware of the difference and how it works. Amazes me the assumptions made from reading between lines and seeing what you want to see.
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So why then the comment about the 'reducing debt/deficit' yesterday at 11:11:59? (although I note in other posts you do make reference solely to deficit so perhaps a loose post from you and an over reaction from me, I am absolutely stressed to eyeball popping stage at present).
You will see people like Tom (and he's regrettably in the majority) who criticise the government over rising debt when that is in inevitable consequence of a deficit.
This error is one of the things that makes mature and considered discussion of the politico-economic situation so difficult, as is obtaining recognition that the legislative foundation for many current government polices was laid during Labour's terms of office.
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if we can prove ourselves to be a nation of thoroughly nice people, then perhaps the people we owe the national debt to will let us off having to pay it back?
having folk like Brand and Farage wandering around the place can only hinder this plan
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(I actually criticised the Torys for saying - nay promising that they would eradicate the deficit (not debt) when clearly they have not..)
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I do wish people would understand the difference between deficit and debt.
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You cannot reduce the debt until the surplus is > the interest on the debt.
What is it about politics that turns otherwise educated and intelligent people into fucktards who will refuse to acknowledge what is staring them in the face and refuse to engage with the evidence?
Brilliant point slopes, except that many measurements of the deficit include interest payments on the debt. So by those measures, once the deficit goes, the debt starts to go down. It’s the 'primary budget deficit’ that has interest payments subtracted.
As deficit can be used to refer structural deficit, current account deficit, fractional deficit and probably a range of other meanings the best means of describing what you mean by the term is with a loose correspondent theory (which interestingly enough was the subject of in our time this morning) hence simple reference to deficit.
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(I actually criticised the Torys for saying - nay promising that they would eradicate the deficit (not debt) when clearly they have not..)
What you posted:
The economy has flatlined.
Debt has increased and the Torys have failed on their promise to remove the deficit. This is despite the largest and most rapid privatisation program the UK has ever seen.
I don't really want any of them to win, but I think an outright Tory govt would be a disaster for this country. A complete disaster.
Ends.
You will of course realise that saying 'we will return to surplus' is not something that is wholly within the grasp of the government, policy objectives even when expressed in the imperative do not take on a different class of certainty by virtue of the statement: The policy objective was to erradicate the deficit in one terms vs Labour's "promise" to reduce the deficit by 50% in the term.
I don't think that this will come as news to you but not everything a politican says they'll do will come to pass: the distinction to be drawn as to whether they have delivered or not was whether it was in their gift so to do, or whether it was not.
So, if a PM with a whacking majority says 'we'll allow gay weddings' and they fail to find parliamentary time they've reneged on a promise if the say we promise to bring peace to Israel and Palestine' and the fail they have not reneged on their promise.
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What I originally said was correct then...? Debt has increased and (ergo) they've not eradicated the deficit..
Your failed promise justification is akin to accusing someone of lying and them saying yes well everyone lies...
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That is not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that you do not have a sufficient understand of the proper application of the phrase 'lie' in this context, well worth listening to 'in our time' on iPlayer (from this morning).
When Gordon Brown said he had 'abolished boom and bust' he was not lying, he mave have been posessed by hubris of a monumental scale but he was not lying. When he said that he had not met with bernie Ecclestone he was (he (Brown) accepted that he had met with him) and this was a lie.
A failure to achieve an objective (that is not wholly within one's gift) one has stated one will achieve is not lying.
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so what is promising to achieve an objective that is not wholly within one's gift
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so what is promising to achieve an objective that is not wholly within one's gift
Sounds like the type of question you'd ask a lawyer....
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Slopes I'm off out to Scotland but quickly - I fully get the difference and it was loose wording by me interpreted incorrectly by you. I know the deficit has to become a surplus before the debt can start to be repaid - it's virtually household economics ffs no need to overcomplicated things.
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Last night.
An unarmed, off duty Police officer was murdered on the streets of Liverpool.
Two more were hospitalised.
When can I expect the riots, protests and media outrage to begin?
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Yes, I heard, it appears the attack may have been motivated by the fact that they were cops.
My thoughts are with his wife and family.
As to your question, unlikely, but to be fair when one black man shoots or stabs another black man (which is a pretty regular occurrence) there tends not to be riots or media outrage either.
But don't tell the London Black Revolutionaries that.
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In an Australian provincial town, 8 children are murdered, in Pakistan, 130+ children are mowed down by a gang of nihilist thugs. Lovely world we live in isn't it?
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I understand what you're saying Matt, and my heart goes out to all involved, but it's a clumsy comparison to make.
In the US, nearly ten people each week are killed in arrest related incidents, and black people are three times as likely to be killed by police as white people.
In this country, we don't have a serious problem with murders of police officers, thank god. In the US, they do have a serious problem with police violence and race.
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All true.
However, certain idiots decided to protest, in the UK, about the US situation.
Though I'd dispute the last point.
Please not this excludes more than 300 officers killed in NI.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_police_officers_killed_in_the_line_of_duty
A very much shorter list, for balance,
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_killed_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_Kingdom
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Matt - I don't wish to be misunderstood, any death of a police officer is a tragedy and I have utmost respect for those who risk their neck to keeps ours safe. Having said that, I'm kind of surprised by how short that list is.
From numbers I find there are roughly 100,000 police in the UK. Based on current UK murder rates you'd expect 1-2 murders of police officers a year even if they weren't at any greater risk than the general population.
So I think what I said is true. Apart from some tragic exceptions we don't really have a serious problem with *fatal* violence towards the police.
I found the second list you posted fascinating. Almost nothing on there is older than the 1980s. Surely that list is hugely incomplete? The alternative is that a few police officers started killing people in the 80s...
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Also, I meant to say I'm impressed how short the second list is, given the number of violent incidents police are involved with every day.
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Last night.
An unarmed, off duty Police officer was murdered on the streets of Liverpool.
Two more were hospitalised.
When can I expect the riots, protests and media outrage to begin?
Terrible crime, dreadful for the families...just horrific.
But there will be no rioting...because rioting is the action of those who believe they have no other recourse to justice.
In this case :
The whole weight of the police/criminal justice system will come down, the criminals will be caught and sentenced and go away for many decades, if not the rest of their lives. Like Dale Cregan etc.
The local community will rally round, the local press will express the outrage felt and the families will be supported by their colleagues/professions etc.
The prime minister and other government representatives will express their condolences and the home office will keep a close eye on the case.
In other words - civil society will function as it should.
If any of the above didn't happen, then maybe we would see appropriate civil action/civil disobedience etc...but it will happen.
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Also, I meant to say I'm impressed how short the second list is, given the number of violent incidents police are involved with every day.
There is an interesting discussion to be had about the second list...
Over 300 people have died in police custody in the last 10yrs...that list is a fraction of those and is highly questionable as a source...(the vast majority of those deaths have no sinister cause though...but i don't believe its as clear cut as the second list makes out...certainly when compared to the first list which includes a number of 'collapsed on duty' incidents which are likely to be standard heart attack while working type cases...)
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Indeed, drdeath. In fact, someone has already been arrested, having handed himself in to a local police station.
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Nice to see that Labour aren't beyond using images of the holocaust to campaign in the GE, no surprise the number of lefty cvnts who seem to think that it's 'ok'. Nothing like a bit of lefty hypocrisy.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/08/miliband-labour-councillor-retweet-auschwitz-tory-poster (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/08/miliband-labour-councillor-retweet-auschwitz-tory-poster)
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On a lighter note . . . some criminal genius.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-30710852 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-30710852)
Nahh no one will think that's a bit sus :no: :slap:
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EH? Not my bag, but mental disorder?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30735673 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30735673)
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That's going to kill of dogging in Russia.
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That's going to kill of dogging in Russia.
Chauffeur based operations will be unaffected ;)
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Nice to see that Labour aren't beyond using images of the holocaust to campaign in the GE, no surprise the number of lefty cvnts who seem to think that it's 'ok'. Nothing like a bit of lefty hypocrisy.
I never understand why people equate an individuals actions to those of their employers. Employers can't and shouldn't have total control over absolutely every aspect of their employees lives. In this case the person in question is clearly stupid but I don't understand why you have to twist this, as you do with everything that has even a whiff of politics about it, into polarised "left" v's "right" bullshit. Its risible.
Regardless you will of course be aware that the poster that is being parodied is thought to be a heavily manipulated stock photo taken in Germany (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/03/germany-conservatives-ele_n_6410972.html) rather than within the islands its is attempting to represent.
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No 1, she isn't an employee, she's an elected politician.
No 2, what would the reaction have been if this was a Tory / UKIP councillor? let me answer that, there would be blood on the walls and calls for their imprisonment.
No 3, get with the politics programme, the councillor represents Labour, she is a Labour politician so this makes it political. As for the comments defending the action being 'lefties' do you disagree with this?
The road apparently representing the UK, I think that's a 'special' interpretation, as to your point about there being rumours that this is a heavily doctored photo / montage of a road in Germany (and as some suggest leading to another notorious death camp) . . yes I wonder how and why those rumours have grown & etc
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No 1, she isn't an employee, she's an elected politician.
She doesn't receive any remuneration for the position she's been elected to then? Regardless, employee or elected politician, people are still entitled to act outside of that capacity, they're not fucking slaves to their jobs/elected position endlessly serving the machine 24/7 365 days a year. As such they won't always make the wisest of choices in their personal time, but thats their mistake not their employers/political party they have been elected to represent (delete as you choose).
No 2, what would the reaction have been if this was a Tory / UKIP councillor? let me answer that, there would be blood on the walls and calls for their imprisonment.
Personally, I couldn't give a shit (see below).
No 3, get with the politics programme, the councillor represents Labour, she is a Labour politician so this makes it political.
She may well be a wife, and a mother, definitely a daughter, she might got to some sort of church too, why not condemn all of those groups she's part of too?
As for the comments defending the action being 'lefties' do you disagree with this?
I don't read the comments since the vast majority are written by fuckwits who try to polarise arguments and enjoy petty bickering over idealised theoretical stand points rather than trying to work together to find common ground and pragmatic solutions to problems.
Nor have I defeneded the action, what I'm saying, which you are smart enough to understand but are characterisitically choosing to ignore in favour of politicising pretty much every thread you post in, is that people are fallable and their actions are not always representative of their political affiliations or their employers. A very straight-forward and easy to crasp concept.
This sort of continual petty scrutiny really detracts from the important issues that matter in politics, no wonder so many can't be fucking bothered with politics. I couldn't care less about these dumb fucking posters with tag lines, official or otherwise, I'd rather know what the fuck the idiots standing in the next election propose to do with the country over the next five years. Political parties need to take a long hard look at themselves and start focusing on issues rather then petty bickering and cheap point scoring against each other, but then the conduct in the Houses of Parliaments is very often barely above that of the playground so its probably folly to expect anything sensible.
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1. Councillors are remunerated for the position. She receives £17k per year for being a councillor http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=49612&p=0 (http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=49612&p=0)
2. Your special pleading does you no favours. When a Tory minsiter joked that 'the homless, yes they're the ones you have to step over when leaving the opera' his 'joke' was still being used to portray the Tories as the 'nasty party' 3 decades on. Politicans' comments are taken to represent in broad terms their political party, as it was ever thus, so it shall be. Seeking to suggest otherwise is capable of being interpretted as etiher defnding the comment or saying it has no political import, both psotions being risible.
3. Being a wife, mother etc are not political positions. When I make crass and potentially offensive comments (yes, it has been known to happen) these do not reflect on the Conservative party because I'm not an elected official or paid spokesman etc.
Of course I understand that we all do things we later regret and people are prone to err, but it's a bit much for being accused of politicising something which is so absolutely and inherently political.
But does this froth demean politics and is this a damaging thing? I would tend to agree that in some regards it does demean politics and that is damaging but there is also the counter argument that we ought know what our elected presentatives think and say.
We're probably entering one of the most febrile elections since broadcast media was invented and I expect that there will be many crass comments on twitter & etc, although I expect that they'll have to go a long way to out do this one.
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You started a thread (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,25250.0.html) about events which stem from issues of freedom of speech I'm surprised to see you suggesting that freedom of speech should be curtailed based solely on an individuals affiliations.
Some might consider it poor judgement for her to have retweeted (a significant difference from being the person who created the mockery), but given we are currently free to say what we want, regardless of who it offends, its quite clear, to me at least, that not everything everyone ever says always reflects the views of those they are affiliated with. You are attempting to politicise it, because by saying...
Nice to see that Labour aren't beyond using images of the holocaust to campaign in the GE, no surprise the number of lefty cvnts who seem to think that it's 'ok'. Nothing like a bit of lefty hypocrisy.
...you ignore that it was an individual who made the mistake, not Labour, nor the "left cvnts" (whoever the fuck "the left" are). You've conflated an individuals actions with those of the party, they're not the same thing and you know it.
If however you insist on it being a political issue then consider...
- The picture wasn't created by the Labour party, nor by the person involved.
- It wasn't released as officially representing the Labour party.
- The action has been condemned by the current leader of the Labour party, Milliband.
- The woman has been suspended from her position as a consequence.
This makes it patently clear that Labour are beyond using images of the holocaust in their campaign, so your assertion is utter bollocks.
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You seem to misunderstand the nature of free speech.
I am in no way saying that people shouldn't be allowed to make comments or images that offend, indeed I think that the application of s.5 POA is over the top as are other restrictions on free speech.
People are free to speak and I am free to comment on it, that's what's happening here.
As for your point about being an individuals we're all individuals (shut up at the back per monty python) but those who represent an organisation, when they speak are to a greater or lesser degree deemed to speak for that organisation.
The councillor has not been suspended from her position as a councillor, she's had her party membership suspended which is entirely different.
As for conflating an elected Labour politician with 'Labour' I think its fair to say that that conflation has been broadly applied when the comments etc of individual conservative have been regarded as offensive and sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander and a wonderful source of campaigning.
Or are you suggesting that Labour politicians can say and do anything and it won't reflect on Labour unless it is created by Labour central office and released as an official release of party policy? If so dear god you're deluded.
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What's wrong with using historical images in advertising?
Or stock images.
Or manipulated images.
It might be a pathetic comparison, Tory and Nazi, but it is not wrong.
Tasteless, demeaning of the Holocaust and it's victims, and rather transparent; yes.
Wrong? No.
The manipulated photo is no more than an artistic representation, it's origin no more significant than if they'd commissioned a half Polish, half Guatemalan artist to design and entirely imagined scene.
Just a petty argument, a silly semantic battle, no more.
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I can't believe that you two (slopesy and slackers) read each others posts, let alone reply to them
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3. Being a wife, mother etc are not political positions. When I make crass and potentially offensive comments (yes, it has been known to happen) these do not reflect on the Conservative party because I'm not an elected official or paid spokesman etc.
Sloper your comments do reflect - via a few mental reflective surfaces - on the Conservative party. You might want to consider that next time you're playing the tory troll and posting your divisive left/right viewpoints. I.e. you frequently write posts passing comment on various people's actions/words/beliefs and you frequently choose to link them - unelected officials etc. - to a political ideology. Therefore it's simple logic to assume others will read your comments and do exactly the same to you vis-a-vis Conservative party.
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The councillor has not been suspended from her position as a councillor, she's had her party membership suspended which is entirely different.
Apologies, but that is further evidence to support my assertion that you were wrong to say that her actions represent Labour, they don't and they are clearly distancing themselves, because fools like you insist on thinking they do.
As for conflating an elected Labour politician with 'Labour' I think its fair to say that that conflation has been broadly applied when the comments etc of individual conservative have been regarded as offensive and sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander and a wonderful source of campaigning.
Its childish to think tit-for-tat justifies continued petty bickering and cheap point scoring*.
"He did it to me so I should be able to do it to him" FFS most posters here left the playground behind a long time ago. You seem so entrenched in this vein of "politics". The vast majority of your posts here suggest this, although I'm pretty sure you do have more constructive insight to contribute to discussions, its just a shame you use the forums to kill 5 minutes having arguments (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,24207.msg453458.html#msg453458). It really detracts from having any sort of sensible discussion about politics which is supposed to be about running a country.
Or are you suggesting that Labour politicians can say and do anything and it won't reflect on Labour unless it is created by Labour central office and released as an official release of party policy? If so dear god you're deluded.
No, I'm saying I expected you to have the capacity to make that distinction yourself, but since you persist with your line of reasoning you clearly don't. Shame.
@Oldmanmatt : I don't really care for the source of the images, its the original assertion and continued insistence that this was in somehow representative of Labour or "the left". Its not.
* Its one strategy for the Prisoners Dilemma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma) but Game Theory has over the years derived a number of more succesful strategies.
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What's wrong with using historical images in advertising?
Or stock images.
Or manipulated images.
It might be a pathetic comparison, Tory and Nazi, but it is not wrong.
Tasteless, demeaning of the Holocaust and it's victims, and rather transparent; yes.
Wrong? No.
The manipulated photo is no more than an artistic representation, it's origin no more significant than if they'd commissioned a half Polish, half Guatemalan artist to design and entirely imagined scene.
Just a petty argument, a silly semantic battle, no more.
With the minimum amount of respect, fuck off and grow up.
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Probably worthy of da news rather than balls to fiend... A very good legal viewpoint of the Ched Evans case...
http://footylaw.co.uk/2015/01/06/ched-evans-sifting-facts-from-fiction/
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What's wrong with using historical images in advertising?
Or stock images.
Or manipulated images.
It might be a pathetic comparison, Tory and Nazi, but it is not wrong.
Tasteless, demeaning of the Holocaust and it's victims, and rather transparent; yes.
Wrong? No.
The manipulated photo is no more than an artistic representation, it's origin no more significant than if they'd commissioned a half Polish, half Guatemalan artist to design and entirely imagined scene.
Just a petty argument, a silly semantic battle, no more.
With the minimum amount of respect, fuck off and grow up.
I rest my case, your Honour.
😉
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If you genuinely think that the present government are genuinely comparable to the Nazis then you're a total waste of good skin and an oxygen thief.
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Sloper your comments do reflect - via a few mental reflective surfaces - on the Conservative party. You might want to consider that next time you're playing the tory troll and posting your divisive left/right viewpoints. I.e. you frequently write posts passing comment on various people's actions/words/beliefs and you frequently choose to link them - unelected officials etc. - to a political ideology. Therefore it's simple logic to assume others will read your comments and do exactly the same to you vis-a-vis Conservative party.
:agree:
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If you genuinely think that the present government are genuinely comparable to the Nazis then you're a total waste of good skin and an oxygen thief.
Perhaps you should re-read my post?
I believe I trashed the comparison and belittled the dispute over the source photo of the genuine Tory poster, and then I may have mentioned that the entire argument was some what petty (read: fucking trivial).
Have you, Senator Sloper McCarthy, begun to see Reds under every bed?
To be clear, there are genuine issues of immense importance to the people of these islands, that will affect their quality of daily life, education, employment, well being and even the very life span they may expect.
The square root of fuckall of these issues is addressed by the argument, the actions of idiot minor politicians, the sourcing of stock images for meaningless posters and ad campaigns.
Of course the actions of one clearly show the true nature of all and each extreme is so patently different from the other.
It's not like all extremists look the same is it?
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/10/b870c402cfbf8b66b8ec6ba16cb81048.jpg)
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The woman on the right looks a bit like the wife :-/
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If you genuinely think that the present government are genuinely comparable to the Nazis then you're a total waste of good skin and an oxygen thief.
Perhaps you should re-read my post?
I believe I trashed the comparison and belittled the dispute over the source photo of the genuine Tory poster, and then I may have mentioned that the entire argument was some what petty (read: fucking trivial).
Have you, Senator Sloper McCarthy, begun to see Reds under every bed?
To be clear, there are genuine issues of immense importance to the people of these islands, that will affect their quality of daily life, education, employment, well being and even the very life span they may expect.
The square root of fuckall of these issues is addressed by the argument, the actions of idiot minor politicians, the sourcing of stock images for meaningless posters and ad campaigns.
Of course the actions of one clearly show the true nature of all and each extreme is so patently different from the other.
It's not like all extremists look the same is it?
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/10/b870c402cfbf8b66b8ec6ba16cb81048.jpg)
Which bit of 'wrong? no' have I misunderstood?
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Most of it, I'd say...
Would it help if I rephrased to "not illegal"?
By your own example, almost any language, statement or insult is fair game, in your somewhat twisted political view; except where those statements contradict your cherished position.
I find it odd that someone of obvious intellect and education should ascribe so slavishly to the trite, meaningless, jingoistic aspect of politics.
But then, I'm a waste of good skin (perhaps it would be better employed wrapped around a bible? Or as a lampshade?) and an Oxygen thief (should I be inhaling Zyklon B?).
Your temper does lead you down some odd roads.
Now, tell me why I should support the current Gov and how they benefit our society, because the fact that some prissy, public school, chinless wonder, is offended by the oldest and most inane comparison of the modern world, delivered by a minor politician of a different coloured flag, is about as fucking important as an ants' piss in the ocean.
That's my third offer of a chance to make an intelligent response, are you going for petulant again?
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Most of it, I'd say...
Would it help if I rephrased to "not illegal"?
By your own example, almost any language, statement or insult is fair game, in your somewhat twisted political view; except where those statements contradict your cherished position.
I find it odd that someone of obvious intellect and education should ascribe so slavishly to the trite, meaningless, jingoistic aspect of politics.
But then, I'm a waste of good skin (perhaps it would be better employed wrapped around a bible? Or as a lampshade?) and an Oxygen thief (should I be inhaling Zyklon B?).
Your temper does lead you down some odd roads.
Now, tell me why I should support the current Gov and how they benefit our society, because the fact that some prissy, public school, chinless wonder, is offended by the oldest and most inane comparison of the modern world, delivered by a minor politician of a different coloured flag, is about as fucking important as an ants' piss in the ocean.
That's my third offer of a chance to make an intelligent response, are you going for petulant again?
No, it wouldn't help if you rewrote what you said and pretended that you meant 'illegal', that would eb the act of a coawrdly liar.
After all I'm not sure you'd want people to think that you're so fucking stupid as to confuse the two words. or maybe you would given the alternative.
Moving on.
Pretty much all statements are fair game, it's one of the consequences of free speech to speech fucking morons spout shit, it doesn't mean you have to bite your tongue and stay silent, or fail to respond.
I am sure that during your service you would have repeatedly hard the insults that I have used and to seek to use these to make reference to the holocaust is deeply regrettable, perhaps deliberate, do you think it's funny, you're just 'having a gas'? Or do you think that gas chambers are just so funny that you couldn't help yourself?
The reason why I told you to fuck off and grow up was that you said that the comparison 'was not wrong'. thereby inferring that the current government could properly be compared to the Nazis.
As to it being trite, cliched and old, do you think that I should also refrain from comments about us jews being money grabing, part of some global elite conspiring against the comment ma, drinking the blood of the new born at passover because all these are ancient libels too?
Like I said fuck off and grow up (and when you're in a hole stop digging).
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Most of it, I'd say...
Would it help if I rephrased to "not illegal"?
By your own example, almost any language, statement or insult is fair game, in your somewhat twisted political view; except where those statements contradict your cherished position.
I find it odd that someone of obvious intellect and education should ascribe so slavishly to the trite, meaningless, jingoistic aspect of politics.
But then, I'm a waste of good skin (perhaps it would be better employed wrapped around a bible? Or as a lampshade?) and an Oxygen thief (should I be inhaling Zyklon B?).
Your temper does lead you down some odd roads.
Now, tell me why I should support the current Gov and how they benefit our society, because the fact that some prissy, public school, chinless wonder, is offended by the oldest and most inane comparison of the modern world, delivered by a minor politician of a different coloured flag, is about as fucking important as an ants' piss in the ocean.
That's my third offer of a chance to make an intelligent response, are you going for petulant again?
No, it wouldn't help if you rewrote what you said and pretended that you meant 'illegal', that would eb the act of a coawrdly liar.
After all I'm not sure you'd want people to think that you're so fucking stupid as to confuse the two words. or maybe you would given the alternative.
Moving on.
Pretty much all statements are fair game, it's one of the consequences of free speech to speech fucking morons spout shit, it doesn't mean you have to bite your tongue and stay silent, or fail to respond.
I am sure that during your service you would have repeatedly hard the insults that I have used and to seek to use these to make reference to the holocaust is deeply regrettable, perhaps deliberate, do you think it's funny, you're just 'having a gas'? Or do you think that gas chambers are just so funny that you couldn't help yourself?
The reason why I told you to fuck off and grow up was that you said that the comparison 'was not wrong'. thereby inferring that the current government could properly be compared to the Nazis.
As to it being trite, cliched and old, do you think that I should also refrain from comments about us jews being money grabing, part of some global elite conspiring against the comment ma, drinking the blood of the new born at passover because all these are ancient libels too?
Like I said fuck off and grow up (and when you're in a hole stop digging).
Ah, that will be wilfully petulant then...
Interestingly though, you have no compunction comparing/branding others as various types of communist/socialist/Trotskyite or even Soviet.
I think those groups actually have a worse record on human rights? Slaughtered far more?
Still, a simple, "I'm sorry, I misunderstood your post" would have sufficed.
Hate speech is hate speech.
Asking someone to die, calling them a waste of skin or an oxygen thief, because you THINK they have a different political leaning to you is hate speech.
So far I have complemented your intellect and have yet to resort to the insults you bandy about.
You are wrong.
Is that clear enough?
I don't think my courage or fortitude is the matter of debate here? Equating the insults you levelled with those actions, actions which grew out of such speech, is perfectly justified. I believe I have, on many occasions heard such things said.
Usually they have been used to justify things you could barely imagine.
I have yet to find any of this amusing.
You are, simply wrong.
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Meanwhile Fox News are well on their way to that Pulitzer prize...
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/11/fox-news-steven-emerson-birmingham-muslims
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Like I said fuck off and grow up (and when you're in a hole stop digging).
:) ;D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh the irony.
well done OMM for rising above it
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Most of it, I'd say...
Would it help if I rephrased to "not illegal"?
By your own example, almost any language, statement or insult is fair game, in your somewhat twisted political view; except where those statements contradict your cherished position.
I find it odd that someone of obvious intellect and education should ascribe so slavishly to the trite, meaningless, jingoistic aspect of politics.
But then, I'm a waste of good skin (perhaps it would be better employed wrapped around a bible? Or as a lampshade?) and an Oxygen thief (should I be inhaling Zyklon B?).
Your temper does lead you down some odd roads.
Now, tell me why I should support the current Gov and how they benefit our society, because the fact that some prissy, public school, chinless wonder, is offended by the oldest and most inane comparison of the modern world, delivered by a minor politician of a different coloured flag, is about as fucking important as an ants' piss in the ocean.
That's my third offer of a chance to make an intelligent response, are you going for petulant again?
No, it wouldn't help if you rewrote what you said and pretended that you meant 'illegal', that would eb the act of a coawrdly liar.
After all I'm not sure you'd want people to think that you're so fucking stupid as to confuse the two words. or maybe you would given the alternative.
Moving on.
Pretty much all statements are fair game, it's one of the consequences of free speech to speech fucking morons spout shit, it doesn't mean you have to bite your tongue and stay silent, or fail to respond.
I am sure that during your service you would have repeatedly hard the insults that I have used and to seek to use these to make reference to the holocaust is deeply regrettable, perhaps deliberate, do you think it's funny, you're just 'having a gas'? Or do you think that gas chambers are just so funny that you couldn't help yourself?
The reason why I told you to fuck off and grow up was that you said that the comparison 'was not wrong'. thereby inferring that the current government could properly be compared to the Nazis.
As to it being trite, cliched and old, do you think that I should also refrain from comments about us jews being money grabing, part of some global elite conspiring against the comment ma, drinking the blood of the new born at passover because all these are ancient libels too?
Like I said fuck off and grow up (and when you're in a hole stop digging).
Ah, that will be wilfully petulant then...
Interestingly though, you have no compunction comparing/branding others as various types of communist/socialist/Trotskyite or even Soviet.
I think those groups actually have a worse record on human rights? Slaughtered far more?
Still, a simple, "I'm sorry, I misunderstood your post" would have sufficed.
Hate speech is hate speech.
Asking someone to die, calling them a waste of skin or an oxygen thief, because you THINK they have a different political leaning to you is hate speech.
So far I have complemented your intellect and have yet to resort to the insults you bandy about.
You are wrong.
Is that clear enough?
I don't think my courage or fortitude is the matter of debate here? Equating the insults you levelled with those actions, actions which grew out of such speech, is perfectly justified. I believe I have, on many occasions heard such things said.
Usually they have been used to justify things you could barely imagine.
I have yet to find any of this amusing.
You are, simply wrong.
I don't think I've ever compared Labour to the Stalin's Soviet, Khemer Rouge or similar.
Just for the record, do you think that the Government is comparable to the Nazis? If you do then my comments stand, if you have changed your view or prefer that we change the maning of your text then fine.
Your references to hate speech is simply make no sense: who are you saying is engaging in hate speech?
I called you an oxygen thief etc because you said, in effect that the comparison between the government and the Nazis was 'not wrong'.
I can however see that this is the diablogue of the deaf, but you may think it important to clarify what you intended to say vs what you actually did say.
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It is time for an emoticon.
:wall:
Or two?
:slap:
And...
I'm done.
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Anyway - that colourfully bespectacled twat from Corrie (the one who sold double glazing) has been booted out of Big Brother...
And I have toothache.
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AND... miraculously, I find my self agreeing with the PM...
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/fox-news-expert-ridiculed-over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/fox-news-expert-ridiculed-over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims)
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It is time for an emoticon.
:wall:
Or two?
:slap:
And...
I'm done.
Indeed, let's just have a beer in the future.
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AND... miraculously, I find my self agreeing with the PM...
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/fox-news-expert-ridiculed-over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/fox-news-expert-ridiculed-over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims)
"I choked on my porridge! "
Kudos to the PM for that one. I should imagine being described as an "Utter idiot" by a country's political Head of State does not further ones career as a pundit....
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Probably wont make much difference. Most Fox News viewers will have no idea who David Cameron is.
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For the record, most will think this about Alabama.
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Awesome!
https://twitter.com/ChrisJonesGeek/status/556758551654572033
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"All those migrants coming over here and signing on the dole..."
Well looks like the number of UK citizens going to other EU countries and signing on is greater.... bet the daily mail won't say a thing though...
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu)
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What could possibly go wrong?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-30850570 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-30850570)
:badidea:
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Dear Britain,
It is with great sorrow that we note the passing of the final vestige of your sanity.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360
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Dear Britain,
It is with great sorrow that we note the passing of the final vestige of your sanity.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360)
What a stupid, unpleasant woman.
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Dear Britain,
It is with great sorrow that we note the passing of the final vestige of your sanity.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360)
What a stupid, unpleasant woman.
More of an opportunity for you I'd have thought Sloper
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Dear Britain,
It is with great sorrow that we note the passing of the final vestige of your sanity.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360)
What a stupid, unpleasant woman.
More of an opportunity for you I'd have thought Sloper
£14.95 and £5000 in legal fees please....
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Fees are not recoverable on such claims and it would be misconduct to act in such a case.
Joe, I'm sure she's more your type than mine! :jab:
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"Oh FUCK!"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30897574 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30897574)
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WTF :blink:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-30913056 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-30913056)
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DFBWAOTTPONN
Dead Fit Birds Who Appear On The Third Page Of National Newspapers.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/22/a261a1ead9c62f7dd861a2e2c5424ac9.jpg)
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Climbing news....
Looks like Hollywood are making a film about the Everest disaster... Fair enough (I thought) I then spat my cornflakes out when I saw the cast list... Oh dear.. Well hopefully there won't be some drug baron sub plot etc..
http://www.celebeat.com/articles/16655/20150112/everest-ensemble-cast-true-story-1996-mount-disaster.htm
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Are you a regular reader of Celebeat, Tom? I had no idea.
They've missed a trick not casting Michael Caine as an elderly sherpa. The post disaster 'Broken Voice' monologue would have been Oscar-worthy.
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Are you a regular reader of Celebeat, Tom? I had no idea.
Nope, it popped up in my twitter feed. You?
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Are you a regular reader of Celebeat, Tom? I had no idea.
Nope, it popped up in my twitter feed. You?
It's all your bloody fault that I have now heard of this butt scraping of a publication and I may never be the same again....
😉
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Are you a regular reader of Celebeat, Tom? I had no idea.
Nope, it popped up in my twitter feed. You?
It's all your bloody fault that I have now heard of this butt scraping of a publication and I may never be the same again....
😉
I just read the article and posted up the link... am I missing something? ;)
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Are you a regular reader of Celebeat, Tom? I had no idea.
Nope, it popped up in my twitter feed. You?
It's all your bloody fault that I have now heard of this butt scraping of a publication and I may never be the same again....
😉
I just read the article and posted up the link... am I missing something? ;)
I'm generally of the opinion that "Celebs" and Thespians in general are a kind of virus.
Probably an STD....
😄😜
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Naa.. That's lawyers ;)
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Climbing news....
Looks like Hollywood are making a film about the Everest disaster... Fair enough (I thought) I then spat my cornflakes out when I saw the cast list... Oh dear.. Well hopefully there won't be some drug baron sub plot etc..
http://www.celebeat.com/articles/16655/20150112/everest-ensemble-cast-true-story-1996-mount-disaster.htm (http://www.celebeat.com/articles/16655/20150112/everest-ensemble-cast-true-story-1996-mount-disaster.htm)
Brian Hall's been working on it for a couple of years with several of the survivors and guides as advisors. I guess it depends on how the exec producers and studio interfere with any final edit but he's pretty happy with what he's seen in production so far. Shot in the Alps and on Everest, it's supposed to be a pretty faithful reconstruction. No pampering up in the mountains.. out for really long days in difficult conditions by the sounds of things. We'll see how it turns out.
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Thanks FD
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Hold tha MF front page... tech news....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8gRjoXIMAAumBH.jpg)
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Shadow or no shadow, who gives a shit, this groundhog just wanted to be put the fuck down and left alone... :boxing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31100453 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31100453)
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Shadow or no shadow, who gives a shit, this groundhog just wanted to be put the fuck down and left alone... :boxing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31100453 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31100453)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B82ODqiIAAE4a__.jpg)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/03/gnc-target-wal-mart-walgreens-accused-of-selling-fake-herbals/
Possibly, they are more effective like this...
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whoop
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11350365/Pop-a-sober-up-pill-or-guzzle-synthetic-booze-to-avoid-hangovers.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11350365/Pop-a-sober-up-pill-or-guzzle-synthetic-booze-to-avoid-hangovers.html)
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whoop
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11350365/Pop-a-sober-up-pill-or-guzzle-synthetic-booze-to-avoid-hangovers.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11350365/Pop-a-sober-up-pill-or-guzzle-synthetic-booze-to-avoid-hangovers.html)
The man behind this marvel is Professor David Nutt
:D
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If you think UKIP are bad....
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/mo-brooks-illegal-aliens-blame-measles-outbreak?cid=sm_fb_msnbc
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/10/tube-drivers-vote-strike-colleague-sacking (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/10/tube-drivers-vote-strike-colleague-sacking)
the end of the beginning for drivers on the tube?
(oh and a gift for the Tories)
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I can't help but feel there must be some context here as to why the members have voted for action. If the guy was done even once then surely that would be a legitimate gross misconduct offence. With the threat to the drivers of driver-less trains breathing down their necks you'd think they'd want to be pressing the point that only fully qualified drivers are up to the job, not just any old body that turns up to work in an unfit state.
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And whilst I'm on this thread, since the good lady Hodge pointed out the great void in justice between benefit cheats and tax evaders, it has become the choice compliant for all the news' talking heads to use.
Is anybody really surprised? To roll with a stereotype: if you get a benefit cheat into the dock they're going to turn up in a tracksuit and use whatever legal representation the state deigns to provide; conversley the tax evader will rock up in a limo conveying his legal team with a combined five figure hourly recharge rate.
The CPS need to grow a pair (or whatever the PC equivalent of that phrase might be) and go Big Game Hunting.
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Tax evaders do get custody on a regular basis: a QC recently got 6 years for VAT evasion: the problem is tax avoidance isn't illegal, even aggressive tax avoidance where the HMRC subsequently claw back tax and interest doesn't alter the fact that no offence has been committed.
Secondly where someone is accused of VAT fraud all their assets are often seized meaning that they cannot pay privately for fat cat lawyers and are reliant on exactly the same firms on the same rates as everyone else (unless of course friends / family step in and fund the matter).
In respect of benefits cheats, you'd be very surpised how few get immediate custodial sentences.
http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Fraud_bribery_and_money_laundering_offences_-_Definitive_guideline.pdf (http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Fraud_bribery_and_money_laundering_offences_-_Definitive_guideline.pdf)
So a nice little rant by La Hodge but more heat than light.
Ohh and can we stop politicising the fuckign CPS, they're bad enough already without political interference.
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Tax evaders do get custody on a regular basis: a QC recently got 6 years for VAT evasion: the problem is tax avoidance isn't illegal, even aggressive tax avoidance where the HMRC subsequently claw back tax and interest doesn't alter the fact that no offence has been committed.
That's interesting. If there's no offence, how do they manage to get the cheddar back? My outrage thus far has been along the lines of "the politicians should legislate to stop this stuff happening, rather than just naming and shaming those who, quite legally, take advantage of loopholes". Is this wrong? Should I be cross with HMRC because they aren't pursuing the action you describe above enough? And how much of total tax evasion does VAT evasion make up and do the same rules apply across the board?
Ohh and can we stop politicising the fuckign CPS, they're bad enough already without political interference.
Who do we get cross with then? Politicians? HMRC? I'm fairly sure we should be cross with someone.
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Other than for (generally minor offences) for criminal liability to be established there needs to be a 'mens rea' i.e. a 'guilty mind' to accompany the 'guilty act', so for murder you need to intend to kill or seriously injure the deceased, if you lack that intention while you can be guilty of manslaughter, hence the outrage that routinely follows the 'single punch manslaugher' sentences of 4 years.
In the case of most aggressive tax avoidance there is no guilty mind as the person avoiding tax cannot have a guilty mind for doing something that is, on paper and at the material time, legal. That HMRC subsequently determine that the scheme was not within the scope of the allowable avoidance does not retrospectively change their state of mind from innocent to guilty or make the act illegal when at the time it was legal.
None of this of course alters the moral assessment and whether morally the acts were reasonable or reprehensible but fortunately law and morality while running in the same channel are not the same stream (Ru bonus points if you can remember the case from which the fluvial analogy flows, I can't!).
Of course HMRC can claim retrospective liabilities (and indeed makes retrospetive allowances) and it is for these reasons that the back payments are made (of course I'm sure that some are for a quiet life etc).
In terms of legislating to close loopholes, this government has introduced a very wide range of general anti avoidance provisions (GAAP) which it is broadly accepted have closed more loopholes and done more to restrict the sort of aggressive avoidance that we've seen with some of the film schemes, that comedain and pop start whose names escape me: including the rule now that you have to notify HMRC in advance of the basis of your avoidance scheme which seems a :goodidea:
In respect of VAT evasion, it's been a while since I've had any dealings with MTIC (or carousel VAT fraud, google it it's genuinely fascinating) or general VAT fruad but the estimations of the leakage of tax take VAT fraud is by far and away the largest slice of evasion. (think every time you pay someone in cash you're probably being complicit in VAT evasion / fraud).
Who should we get cross with, by 'eck lad, there's plenty of people, top roping scum, people over using chalk, dog owners, proles, politicians and journalists who peddle simplistic fuckwittery about avoidance in the same breath, did I mention dog owners, wankers.
Personally I don't think really there's anyone to blame, taken against international measures we take pretty much what is considered to be the maximum amount of tax when compared with the theoretical tax liabilities, Andy P will probably recall the paper from the mid 2000's showing we were at about 89% of the theoretical amount and Greece was somewhere in the 40s.
Anyway, I've been dealing with some particualrly cvntish fuckwittery today and in a mood that requires a midweek cigar and pint, particualrly since Man U are playing tonight and bollocksing up my commute home.
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This (despite not being in the least bit surprising) is really beyond a joke.
In particular the appointment of an HSBC exec into government, despite the Gov's full knowledge of the scandal.
Swiss police raid HSBC's Geneva office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31516416
Neither Labour nor Cons are the least guilty in this, apparently deliberate, blindness to the goings on; but that appointment is monumentally poor judgement.
The debacle at the Telegraph, just serves to lend credibility to critics and make the Tory party seem even more likely to be guilty of deliberately, tacitly, condoning tax evasion by the wealthy.
Sorry, Sloper, but this is terrible press for the Cons and I'm amazed Cameron hasn't done more to distance the party from the scandal.
Some Peerages need retracting, for one.
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The debacle at the Telegraph, just serves to lend credibility to critics and make the Tory party seem even more likely to be guilty of deliberately, tacitly, condoning tax evasion by the wealthy.
This one where the political editor has resigned over a multitude of editorial issues being influenced by the Barclay brothers who bought the paper? (https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-oborne/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph)
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This (despite not being in the least bit surprising) is really beyond a joke.
In particular the appointment of an HSBC exec into government, despite the Gov's full knowledge of the scandal.
Swiss police raid HSBC's Geneva office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31516416 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31516416)
Neither Labour nor Cons are the least guilty in this, apparently deliberate, blindness to the goings on; but that appointment is monumentally poor judgement.
The debacle at the Telegraph, just serves to lend credibility to critics and make the Tory party seem even more likely to be guilty of deliberately, tacitly, condoning tax evasion by the wealthy.
Sorry, Sloper, but this is terrible press for the Cons and I'm amazed Cameron hasn't done more to distance the party from the scandal.
Some Peerages need retracting, for one.
Of course it is bad press for the government, though that doesn't make it (i.e the allegations that the govt had full knowledge of it) true.
Let's be clear.
1. tax avoidance is legal, and it is mos unlikely that either the CEO of HSBC knew what was going on or that his came up in the clearance process.
2. Cameron isn't making more effort to distance the party from the scandal because it i.e. the enoblement of Lord Green isn't a scandal
3. I am sure that the tory spin doctors know Labour have as much to fear from this issue as the Tories.
I'm not one for calling for the withdrawal of honours and would be very surprised if even Miliband is stupid enough to bang this drum when you consider who they gave honours to.
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So....
You're saying that the man in charge of the bank, was unaware of the trading policies and principle revenue stream, of one of the banks largest arms and the performance and management of some of the banks biggest clients?
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/18/afe138e1ca18a8a19f3fd21713e42ea0.jpg)
Uhh...
Yeah.
Riiiiiigghht....
Of course, that would make him a mere figurehead.
A Marionette.
A stooge.
A Facade.
Perfectly qualified for a Ministerial post.
And yes, Labour have some serious questions to answer too.
As do HMRC.
The fact that both sets of Spin Doctors are playing it down and that the Media (hardly independent and when bi-partisan issues occur, muted to say the least) have little Editorial/Owner incentive to give the story the legs it deserves; does not make it any less a scandal.
People are beginning to notice.
It looks and feels, dirty.
And Labour at least have a relatively fresh and apparently clean cast. An ability to say "it was the old crowd, and that's why we gave them the chop".
Not so the Cons.
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It is as rational an argument as that that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown knew about the child sexual exploitation in Rotherham because they were the leader of the Labour party at the relevant time.
As for the Swiss activities under scrutiny being a 'principle revenue stream', jesus wept, you're only out by several magnitude errors.
let's be clear HMRC has been shit in dealing with specific matters for example MTIC / carousel VAT fraud for a very long time (not aided by Gordon Brown merging IL with HMC+E against all advice) and I do not think that them being shit is necessarily a party political issue:
1. HMRC were first offered the papers in 2004,
2, HMRC were in effect offering an amnesty in 2007 for these activities, short of significant evasion
3. The head of HMRC, by 2009, had in his own words 'not only smoking guns, but smoking tanks and smoking howitzers'. Despite this prosecutions did not follow.
Despite this I do not think that the failure to act was a political figure to be laid at the door of Alister Darling and Gordon Brown.
HSBC have been involved in a number of scandals for as long as I can remember, from laundering drug money through to less respectable activities.
The real scandal is that our system of banking regulation (and this is where it does get political) failed to take any proper steps to enforce and assure good governance.
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The real scandal is that our system of banking regulation (and this is where it does get political) failed to take any proper steps to enforce and assure good governance.
And on this both Labour and the Tories are guilty of sitting back and accepting handjobs from the city.
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Which they were able to claim back on expenses..
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It is as rational an argument as that that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown knew about the child sexual exploitation in Rotherham because they were the leader of the Labour party at the relevant time.
As for the Swiss activities under scrutiny being a 'principle revenue stream', jesus wept, you're only out by several magnitude errors.
No.
Private wealth management is the principle business of the Swiss arm.
It is not even remotely comparable to criminal activities carried out Rotherham. That is specious.
Despite HSBC being a very large entity, Green was most certainly responsible for their business practices.
He will have sat at the same table as the head of that arm and listened to his reports.
The revenue was sufficiently important for the Swiss arm to feel it worth incurring international condemnation, to obtain (possibly even prosecution).
No.
Green is tanted.
If he was unaware, he should have been.
Now, explain again how this pertains to child molestation in Rotherham?
Are you suggesting that was state sponsored?
This is not some local branch of Curry's handing out TVs under the counter.
This is a large, important, arm of an international banking empire; at an institutional level, acting to defraud many nation states.
All under the stewardship of Green.
Much more akin to a Government Ministry, directly, organising the child abuse in Rotherham and very similar in scale of scandal.
(Sorry, Slopers choice of analogy, not mine).
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It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know. I doubt the head of the physics department knows how much time I spend going climbing when I should be working.
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It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know. I doubt the head of the physics department knows how much time I spend going climbing when I should be working.
We're all tagged with RFID implants and our HoD has a real time location screen in his office....
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The real scandal is that our system of banking regulation (and this is where it does get political) failed to take any proper steps to enforce and assure good governance.
And on this both Labour and the Tories are guilty of sitting back and accepting handjobs from the city.
This may shock you but I do agree that there is a prblem with ex ministers taking roles within the industries they were previously involved in governing but this 'merry go round' is at its most pernicious in the world of banking regulation, tax and HMRC.
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Matt, you've worked at management level, you know that senior management don't have the detailed knowledge of what's going on on the shop floor etc and to think that there were reports delivered to the senior board that said, 'guys have I told you about our money laundering and tax evasion, christ some of the clients are dodgy but you should see the fees, now where's my bonus you fuckers' you've lost it.
The point about Rotherham is not that they activities are in any way comparable: rather I suggesting that your analysis giving Lord Green imputed / contstructive knowledge was flawed.
Officers with very close links to Labour were directly involved in the causes of the failure to act, elected Labour officials took positive steps to ensure that the council failed to deliver its statutory responsibility, at least one of those councillors is now an MP, the leader of the Labour party has his seat in the general proximity of where this all happened. And yet it would be ridiculous to say that Miliband has any stain on his character due to the failures of labour supporters and elected officials.
That is a shorter and stronger chain than the case of HSBC and the nefarious activities of part of the organisation.
I think you're right that Lord Green is tainted but I find this pillory by association rather unpleasant.
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Such is the nature of corporate responsibility.
Not what he knew, but what he should have known.
Much as a minister is, quiet rightly, expected to fall on the sword of office; in similar circumstance.
It represents a failure of corporate governance, for which he is (was) ultimately responsible.
If such entities are "ungovernable" or beyond the capacity of their Chief or board to govern; then it is time for global regulation.
Yes, I am aware of the current impossibility of such regulation.
Was this "Clandestine" in the same way that the events of Rotherham were?
I suspect not.
The information was leaked during his tenure at the bank, long before his Ministerial exit.
So, he was aware of what was going on.
I have not seen reported, any information regarding the actions he took to remedy that situation.
I do not find his position tenable.
There will be others who think like me (and yes I'm listening to the arguments, they don't sway me) and I suspect, of those others, a significant proportion will see the Gov's muted response and take it as tacit support of HSBC and acceptance that such practices are just "part of the game".
Just a bit of a shame the Proles found out.
I agree, to some extent, with your point about the Chimera that is HMRC.
Taxation is long overdue a complete overhaul and simplification. It is inherently unfair (and yes, I am also aware that, if followed to the letter, it is often grossly unfair to the wealthy).
None of that changes my opinion of this affair, nor do I see it as directly relevant.
Drawing such chains of causation, are as meaningful as drawing the same chains, from the disturbance of a wasps passage; to the hurricane battering some unfortunate port.
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It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know. I doubt the head of the physics department knows how much time I spend going climbing when I should be working.
We're all tagged with RFID implants and our HoD has a real time location screen in his office....
You may jest (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31042477)....
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Matt,
I think the doctrine of ministerial responsibility is no longer what it was following the Critchell Down affair 60 years ago.
The head of the organisation does of course bear nominal responsibility but this is quite different from having actual or indeed constructive knowledge and your analysis and reasoning to seek to impose that is wholly flawed.
No organisation can be wholly governable and all risk of malpractice or misconduct removed. We're not calling for ministerial resignations when police officers get caught selling information, for the former Commissioner of the Met Police to resign because of malpractice in the ranks and so on.
You ask whether this was clandestine in the way that the offences in Rotheram were: I thought we wren't comparing the events? But since we are: the officers and officials at Rotherham were presented with the information that the offences were going on, this went up to director and cabinet level in this form the misconduct and malpractice of the small Swiss office were more 'clandestine' than the failures in the Council.
As to his position being tenable or not, he has resigned from some positions: as for these events being grounds to withdraw his peerage is simply bizarre.
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Characterisation of the Swiss banking arm as a small branch, is a tad disingenuous...
It's not as if this is the Manager of the Warmington on Sea branch, passing out interest free mortgages to his Home Guard mates...
I'm not proposing a 38* petition to have him stripped of his peerage, that is merely a suggestion.
Not particularly bizarre, I don't want him sitting in HoL as part of Gov.
Yes, there are many others, elevated by the former bunch of clowns, who trouble me too, but they are not part of this discussion.
Please note the First person nature of the above. It is opinion only.
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This is far too reasoned a debate, when can we start abusing each other?
Google the breakdown of where HSBC generates funding.
I'll wear a vote Labour badge if the swiss prvate banking arm generated more than .5% of HSBC turnover.
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This is far too reasoned a debate, when can we start abusing each other?
Google the breakdown of where HSBC generates funding.
I'll wear a vote Labour badge if the swiss prvate banking arm generated more than .5% of HSBC turnover.
Or
1/200th
Comparable to a 200 store chain.
Where the MD/CEO would most certainly be expected to know what was going on at branch level, if not duty rotas...
I did look at it's worth.
Somewhat cloudy there, the private banking is split into several entities; each headquartered in different jurisdictions around the globe. My brief foray didn't turn up a figure...
Busy half term with 25 foreign language students to boot.
I try harder later.
That is a significant figure though.
A 1/2% drop in revenue, for example, would most certainly be noticed...
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Sloper
Contrary to appearances, I don't look on here just to fact check your posts but . . .
Turnover is a little difficult in the context of banking but looking at total assets, HSBC had assets of $2.67tr in 2013. During the period covered by the leaked information (2005 – 2007), the relevant accounts held assets of $120bn, or $0.12tr. Based on the reasonable assumption that the total assets in 2007 would not have been more than $2.67tr, that means that the assets held in the relevant accounts were at least 4.49% of the total assets held at the time.
If my maths are right – not a certainty – I look forward to pictures of an appropriate badge being worn. . .
For what it's worth, I am not sure that the value of the assets under management really changes the position very much. The facts appear to be that Lord Green presided over the bank during a period when part of the business was aggressively, or at least proactively, recommending tax avoidance measures which pushed at the boundaries of the legislation. Other than the enthusiasm with which that was being done, I very much doubt that HSBC is unique in that respect. What has happened subsequently though is that some of those measures are believed to have amounted to tax fraud at the time they were being recommended and implemented and not simply in retrospect. Contrary to what you say above, most tax offences in Europe require either a positive intention or recklessness as to potential fraud/evasion and the French and Belgian authorities have already begun proceedings against HSBC on that basis.
Whether it would be honourable to do so or not, Green doesn't have to resign his position and I doubt very much that the government will remove it given that he has already survived being demonstrably complicit in money laundering for Mexican drug cartels* (* according to the US Senate committee). What other people seem to be suggesting is that it does the government no favours to be seen to be defending and even rewarding a man who repeatedly finds himself implicated in or connected to potentially criminal malpractice – that seems like a reasonable suggestion to me.
Sources for the numbers are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far (http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far)
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Too late to edit out that decimal point, I'm afraid...
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Sloper
Contrary to appearances, I don't look on here just to fact check your posts but . . .
Turnover is a little difficult in the context of banking but looking at total assets, HSBC had assets of $2.67tr in 2013. During the period covered by the leaked information (2005 – 2007), the relevant accounts held assets of $120bn, or $0.12tr. Based on the reasonable assumption that the total assets in 2007 would not have been more than $2.67tr, that means that the assets held in the relevant accounts were at least 4.49% of the total assets held at the time.
If my maths are right – not a certainty – I look forward to pictures of an appropriate badge being worn. . .
For what it's worth, I am not sure that the value of the assets under management really changes the position very much. The facts appear to be that Lord Green presided over the bank during a period when part of the business was aggressively, or at least proactively, recommending tax avoidance measures which pushed at the boundaries of the legislation. Other than the enthusiasm with which that was being done, I very much doubt that HSBC is unique in that respect. What has happened subsequently though is that some of those measures are believed to have amounted to tax fraud at the time they were being recommended and implemented and not simply in retrospect. Contrary to what you say above, most tax offences in Europe require either a positive intention or recklessness as to potential fraud/evasion and the French and Belgian authorities have already begun proceedings against HSBC on that basis.
Whether it would be honourable to do so or not, Green doesn't have to resign his position and I doubt very much that the government will remove it given that he has already survived being demonstrably complicit in money laundering for Mexican drug cartels* (* according to the US Senate committee). What other people seem to be suggesting is that it does the government no favours to be seen to be defending and even rewarding a man who repeatedly finds himself implicated in or connected to potentially criminal malpractice – that seems like a reasonable suggestion to me.
Sources for the numbers are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far (http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far)
Your fundamental assumption that the banks assets in 2007 were not greater than 2013 is fundamentally flawed. There was a rather large global event in 2008 which knocked rather a large slice off both equities and gilts.
Assets for the year 2007 were £9.4Tn. I can't see the data in respect of the assets held in CH, but would question whether this is a cumulative sum or average. If it is average we get 1.1% and if sum .035%. (of assets) I would also imagine that these assets were also substantially less fee generating than other assets so I would suggest my projection was fairly accurate.
As you say HSBC has been involved in more than its fair share of scandals and it is the failure of rgulation there that should be the scandal rather than this vety minor and parochial issue.
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Sloper
Contrary to appearances, I don't look on here just to fact check your posts but . . .
Turnover is a little difficult in the context of banking but looking at total assets, HSBC had assets of $2.67tr in 2013. During the period covered by the leaked information (2005 – 2007), the relevant accounts held assets of $120bn, or $0.12tr. Based on the reasonable assumption that the total assets in 2007 would not have been more than $2.67tr, that means that the assets held in the relevant accounts were at least 4.49% of the total assets held at the time.
If my maths are right – not a certainty – I look forward to pictures of an appropriate badge being worn. . .
For what it's worth, I am not sure that the value of the assets under management really changes the position very much. The facts appear to be that Lord Green presided over the bank during a period when part of the business was aggressively, or at least proactively, recommending tax avoidance measures which pushed at the boundaries of the legislation. Other than the enthusiasm with which that was being done, I very much doubt that HSBC is unique in that respect. What has happened subsequently though is that some of those measures are believed to have amounted to tax fraud at the time they were being recommended and implemented and not simply in retrospect. Contrary to what you say above, most tax offences in Europe require either a positive intention or recklessness as to potential fraud/evasion and the French and Belgian authorities have already begun proceedings against HSBC on that basis.
Whether it would be honourable to do so or not, Green doesn't have to resign his position and I doubt very much that the government will remove it given that he has already survived being demonstrably complicit in money laundering for Mexican drug cartels* (* according to the US Senate committee). What other people seem to be suggesting is that it does the government no favours to be seen to be defending and even rewarding a man who repeatedly finds himself implicated in or connected to potentially criminal malpractice – that seems like a reasonable suggestion to me.
Sources for the numbers are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far (http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far)
Pete, just a quick question did you used to climb at Nottingham wall 1997-2002 ish?
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Stop stalling, just get the fucking badge on Sloper.
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I'll be sure someone can lend me some proper lefty attire for my next trip to the Sheaf.
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I am not sure where you're getting your figures but £9.4tr would have been about $14tr in 2007. The source cited below gives the 2007 figure at $2.35tr which I think pushes us to just over 5%, maths permitting. Interesting to see that the events of 2008 appear to have had very little impact on total assets.
Not sure why you would suggest that these assets drive less revenue than others. I don't think we have any way of knowing for sure but banks tend to push tax strategy on the basis that the some part of the saving is payable as a fee. Once invested, the assets are going to be available to the bank for investment in the usual way.
I don't agree that this is an unimportant sideshow. I think that it is damaging for the government to be seen to endorse an individual deeply implicated in a series of scandals. Bank regulation is also an important issue but I think the two are separate. After all, money laundering and tax evasion (as opposed to avoidance) have always been prohibited. My understanding is that the failures to regulate banking are more in relation to financial instruments and risk exposure.
Source here:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/224808/total-assets-of-the-hsbc/ (http://www.statista.com/statistics/224808/total-assets-of-the-hsbc/)
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I took the figures from the HSBC annual report.
http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/PA_esf-ca-app-content/content/uk/pdfs/en/annual_results2008_full.pdf (http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/PA_esf-ca-app-content/content/uk/pdfs/en/annual_results2008_full.pdf)
The assets in 2010 for total assets were £7.98tn so a significant reduction
http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/PA_esf-ca-app-content/content/uk/pdfs/en/annual_results2010_full.pdf (http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/PA_esf-ca-app-content/content/uk/pdfs/en/annual_results2010_full.pdf)
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Possibly neither of us is entirely comfortable with banks' accounts but we are discussing the group business - HSBC Holdings PLC rather than HSBC Bank Plc (which is a European subsidiary).
The 2007 accounts can be found at the link below and you will see that the total assets quoted are $2.35tr as I suggested earlier ( figures on page 393). There is a statement from Lord Green - as Group Chairman - at pages 6 to 9.
It has just dawned on me that I have spent five minutes looking at those accounts . . . are you wearing this badge or not?
Also, I wasn't at Nottingham wall in the 90s. I lived there as a skinny youth but sadly didn't start climbing until I was significantly older and heavier.
http://reports.investis.com/reports/hsbc_ar_2007_en/report.php?type=1&page=395 (http://reports.investis.com/reports/hsbc_ar_2007_en/report.php?type=1&page=395)
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Make sure you take a selfie and post it on here Sloper
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Those look like the US results rather than the group results, as you say I'm not a regular reader of bank financial reports, from the scale of the operation in CH to suggest that this is 4.5% of the whole on the face of it is an order of magnitude out and more consisent with the figures I've quoted: Shark/Hairbrich this is more your bag can you arbitrate?
PeterJH, a selfie, god no, but if GraemeA can wear a Newcastle Top I can pose with a Labour party badge.
PeterK I must be thinking of a different Pete with a polish sounding surname then,
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I'm always happy to defer to accountants but the Holding company is the global group including the Swiss and US operations. It's that global operation which is involved in the money laundering and tax evading . . . allegedly
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OK I think I get the disparity, I'm comparing the whole of HSBC with the CH arm and you're comparing the CH arm with the holding company (which is part of the whole)?
Anyway it now seems like Labour are taking indirect funding from PWC, good work folks! :spank: :shrug: :spank: :furious:
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Another way of thinking about it is with regard to heath and safety. If it was an engineering company and an employee was killed, an excuse of "but I didn't know this was happening" would not save his assessment, no?
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No. I am comparing the assets in the whole of HSBC with those held in The relevant Swiss accounts. You are comparing the Swiss accounts with the uk business. Your asset figures are higher than mine because I think you are looking at a trillion as being one hundred billion and I am treating them as one thousand billion.
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No. I am comparing the assets in the whole of HSBC with those held in The relevant Swiss accounts. You are comparing the Swiss accounts with the uk business. Your asset figures are higher than mine because I think you are looking at a trillion as being one hundred billion and I am treating them as one thousand billion.
No, the accounts I'm looking at have the total assets of HSBC as £924,000,000,000.
More than happy to be corrected when I'm wrong but I don't think I am in this case.
Habrich, the question is what is the % of assets held by HSBC in their private Swiss arem vs the whole of HSBC
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Isn't that 0.9tr rather than 9?
The holding co figures are more, even bearing in mind the exchange rate, which is what we would expect isn't it?
Too many zeros . . .
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I think we use a trillion as 100 Bn, although wikipedia suggests that a tn is 1mx1m.
Anyway, we've moved a long way from the subject.
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One trillion is one million x one million, or one thousand x one billion.
The number you have written in your post is Nine hundred Billion, or 0.9 Trillion.
This is from the OED of Mathematics.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/21/483fc472dea17444394ab1927c5c2263.jpg)
In fact a Trillion used to be more in British parlance.
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Incidentally, using your very well researched figure of 0.92 tr total assets and Pete's CH asset figure of 0.12 tr; the Swiss arm appears to account for a little over 10% of total assets....
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:boohoo:
Matt, you've worked at management level, you know that senior management don't have the detailed knowledge of what's going on on the shop floor etc and to think that there were reports delivered to the senior board that said, 'guys have I told you about our money laundering and tax evasion, christ some of the clients are dodgy but you should see the fees, now where's my bonus you fuckers' you've lost it.
Too true...
The idea that the board would know about the activities of dodgy clients in the Swiss branch is just laughable ...
Oh, wait a minute ?!
WHOOPS!
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/22/swiss-account-secret-of-hsbc-chief-stuart-gulliver-revealed (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/22/swiss-account-secret-of-hsbc-chief-stuart-gulliver-revealed)
Despite their pretensions to world-weariness, I think 'wilfully naive' is the most charitable description for some folk...
D
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Christ don' these idiots ever learn?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31580374 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31580374)
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'Nutella jar house blaze' kills Twickenham family's dog (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31594956) :shrug:
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Christ don' these idiots ever learn?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31580374 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31580374)
Sometimes, I think you must be the last mortal with even a shred of faith in politicians (of any stripe)...
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Ahh...
Politicians.
Let me count the ways I love thee:
1/ removed permanently from the planet.
2/ just refer to one, really.
http://newsthump.com/2015/02/25/tory-mp-david-tredennicks-horoscope-predicts-relentless-piss-taking/
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Christ don' these idiots ever learn?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31580374 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31580374)
Sometimes, I think you must be the last mortal with even a shred of faith in politicians (of any stripe)...
What amazes me is that they walked into a honey trap with their cock in their hand, FFS some basic due diligence would have shown it was a trap and that's what amazes me, after all this isn't the first such trap is it?
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Man who had sex with postbox is found dead behind a chinese restaurant (http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/24/man-who-had-sex-with-a-postbox-is-found-dead-behind-a-chinese-restaurant-5077200/)
"Africa rules" (http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/man-arrested-after-racist-attack-8708010)
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Man who had sex with postbox is found dead behind a chinese restaurant (http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/24/man-who-had-sex-with-a-postbox-is-found-dead-behind-a-chinese-restaurant-5077200/)
Paul B's luck continues to run short.
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Man who had sex with postbox is found dead behind a chinese restaurant (http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/24/man-who-had-sex-with-a-postbox-is-found-dead-behind-a-chinese-restaurant-5077200/)
Paul B's luck continues to run short.
That's 1st class and probably the first such recorded delivery.
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Hope he used a french letter
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Or he'll be expecting a delivery in 9 months time.
We called but you were out, please take this card and some identification to the delivery office.
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Following on from the HSBC discussion it appears the French are going to take them to trial....
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/mar/13/hsbc-swiss-private-bank-criminal-trial-request-france (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/mar/13/hsbc-swiss-private-bank-criminal-trial-request-france)
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Not really news but do you think there's a special photo agency to make politicians look like twats
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/13/karie-murphy-applies-stand-labour-halifax-falkirik (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/13/karie-murphy-applies-stand-labour-halifax-falkirik)
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What is it they say about people in
glass second houses?
From Private Eye (https://twitter.com/CommissariSalvo/status/577930182637543424)...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAU4beCW4AArc4a.jpg:large)
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/18/key-labour-nhs-pledge-impossible-to-deliver-says-influential-thinktank#comments (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/18/key-labour-nhs-pledge-impossible-to-deliver-says-influential-thinktank#comments)
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What is it they say about people in glass second houses?
From Private Eye (https://twitter.com/CommissariSalvo/status/577930182637543424)...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAU4beCW4AArc4a.jpg:large)
You couldn't make it up, etc....
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Sarah Vine writes for the Mail, enough said.
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Don't head to Carlisle if you have a cold!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-32038574 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-32038574)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11490702/Labour-accused-of-using-inappropriate-election-poster-image-of-potential-victim-of-child-abuse.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11490702/Labour-accused-of-using-inappropriate-election-poster-image-of-potential-victim-of-child-abuse.html)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11490702/Labour-accused-of-using-inappropriate-election-poster-image-of-potential-victim-of-child-abuse.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11490702/Labour-accused-of-using-inappropriate-election-poster-image-of-potential-victim-of-child-abuse.html)
I liked this bit
“This absurd Tory attack just shows how desperate Conservatives are to divert attention from their failing election campaign and their plans for extreme cuts to public services."
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OOops, wrong thread.
However, given the nature of the injury and the potential causes it does show a lack of awarness on the part of the person who produced the add / signed it off, particularly given the analysis of the Tory poster showing (apparently) a road in Germany.
As for the credit being to a Getty photographer, hmm I'm not a radiographer but I'd suggest you need a particularly expensive sort of digital camera to take that sort of image and I'd be surprised if the photogrpaher was hanging aroung casually snapping people's x-rays.
As for the Labour comments, these are hardly what I would call surprising.
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Bbc reporting congress look likely to block it.. :-/
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He's probably just trying to make it easy on himself.
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There are suggestions that the first 'establishment' paedophile is about to be charged.
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little woman in the yellow canoe
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/vagina-artist-on-trial-for-obscenity-criticises-japans-backwards-attitude-to-womens-sexual-expression-10180556.html?icn=puff-1
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Interesting when one considers that child pr0nography is not illegal in Japan
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What the UN concluded about its refuges and schools being bombed in Gaza:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/27/israel-responsible-gaza-strikes-un-schools-ban-ki-moon (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/27/israel-responsible-gaza-strikes-un-schools-ban-ki-moon)
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little woman in the yellow canoe
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/vagina-artist-on-trial-for-obscenity-criticises-japans-backwards-attitude-to-womens-sexual-expression-10180556.html?icn=puff-1
Good to she's still not backing down (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pussy-galore-japanese-woman-arrested-distributing-3d-printer-file-her-genitals-1456723).
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mind-tap-man-accidentally-orders-xbox-one-while-showing-off-apple-watch-1498489
Chortle...
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The Apple watch really tests the limits of how much morons are prepared to be ripped off. I bet they sell millions of them.
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I bought two. One for each wrist. Goes well with my Fitbit and Jawbone.
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:)
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Do you need to take it off and charge it every hour?
Like I do with my iPhone 4s...
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Its to check whether my heartbeat is faster in my left arm or right...
I might get one for the cat...
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fuck the election
here's the real news
http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/575229/Carol-Kirkwood-blue-dress-BBC-weather
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The legacy of Peckham Springs lives on (http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/05/08/wal-mart-bottled-water-comes-from-sacramento-municipal-supply/) :lol:
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"I wonder if there's anything else up there." (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/12/bullseye-man-sneezes-out-toy-dart-after-44-years)
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http://charles-hrh.com/the-prince-charles-letters/
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Helping the homeless 'encourages' them and is to be criminalised (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-david-cameronrsquos-assault-on-the-homeless-is-dickensian-2231372.html)
What bunch of fucking cunts thought this up? Oh wait, no surprises there. :wank:
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Woman who is afraid endless supply of unlimited cash might be coming to an end moans loudly how unfair it is...
Fifa's Sepp Blatter victim of conspiracy, daughter says
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32952426
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Goes to show just how fucking stupid opposing gay marriage is (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-pastor-rick-scarborough-is-willing-to-be-burned-to-death-to-oppose-gay-marriage-10333602.html)
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News story (http://www.express.co.uk/scotland/583378/Northampton-couple-review-Ben-Nevis-toilets) about a trip adviser report on Ben Nevis entitled "Very Steep and Too High" with the reviewer complaining that there were no toilet facilities at the top
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Brilliant. Reminds me of a Brit we met hitching to Font years ago. He was trying to get home, had spent all his money in Paris and was bitterly disappointed.
"Abroad is totally overrated" he said.
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Nice way of dealing with hecklers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71OGC6Jx9w
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The (mostly white) people getting upset at Obama for using the N word on Mark Marons podcast is hilarious. What's funny is all those same people have essentially been calling the guy the N word via dog whistle articles and politics since he got elected. Cunts of the highest order (I'm not Obama's biggest fan but still, better than bush!)
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(http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/RogerR/2014/RogerR20140603_low.jpg)
You can add a few more to that annual total...
Iowa grant gun licenses to registered and completely blind people (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/) :???: :blink: :badidea:
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Possibly the most profound statement of the Century, so far.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/26/12b49dce05322d403a88c7a559a2b329.jpg)
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As far as "Da News" goes, it's not been a good day. Thoughts with all those involved, both those RIP and family and friends.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-33684937
Essentially...
Mum excludes only daughter from will, leaves it all to charity, leaves a letter to explain why her daughter isn't getting anything...then the judge overrules and gives the daughter a lump sum. Precedent now set. Buuuuuullllssshhhiii.....ttttt.
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On the basis that said reason was insufficient.
I kinda agree with the judge.
Note, she was only given a 1/3rd share of the estate, despite being an only child.
The judge also considered the financial circumstance of the daughter and (I think rightly) realised the financial burden on the state would be reduced, long term, and that was of greater public interest than the charitable donation.
Almost logical, by the standards of the British legal system...
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It seems that the deceased may have been a "harsh" person but, nutter or not, I don't see why it should be for a judge to decide whether their wishes, made with full capacity, are reasonable or not.
I don't see why the long term net benefit to the state or public interests should come into the matter at all once inheritance tax has been paid. We're talking about somebody's private estate, not state property.
I honestly can't see how this judgement has passed.
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:agree:
I saw that this morning and thought it sounded absolutely nuts. Judges are crack heads.
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There must be instances of financial activity in the UK that would more beneficially impact the 'long term financial burden on the state and the public good', than people's choice of last wills..
Cutting the lords by 70% would save a few bob
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-33684937
Essentially...
Mum excludes only daughter from will, leaves it all to charity, leaves a letter to explain why her daughter isn't getting anything...then the judge overrules and gives the daughter a lump sum. Precedent now set. Buuuuuullllssshhhiii.....ttttt.
OK - heard an at length discussion about this on the radio this morning - including with a lawyer who had been following the case.
1. The deceased excluded her daughter from her will, as her daughter had run off with the deceaseds partner - and subsequently had children with him (and they are still together).
2. The deceased left her entire estate to two animal charities that she had no connection with
3. The daughter was/is in considerable financial hardship.
So - the judge decided that approximately 1/3 of the will (£160k) should be given to the daughter - else she would have remained in considerable hardship. The key factor in the ruling was the hardship - meaning that if the daughter was rich, wealthy, had no dependants (the kids) then she would have got nothing.. controversial yes, sensible probably (IMHO).
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her daughter had run off with the deceaseds partner - and subsequently had children with him (and they are still together).
Was the judge Jeremy Kyle in this case?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-33684937
Essentially...
Mum excludes only daughter from will, leaves it all to charity, leaves a letter to explain why her daughter isn't getting anything...then the judge overrules and gives the daughter a lump sum. Precedent now set. Buuuuuullllssshhhiii.....ttttt.
OK - heard an at length discussion about this on the radio this morning - including with a lawyer who had been following the case.
1. The deceased excluded her daughter from her will, as her daughter had run off with the deceaseds partner - and subsequently had children with him (and they are still together).
2. The deceased left her entire estate to two animal charities that she had no connection with
3. The daughter was/is in considerable financial hardship.
So - the judge decided that approximately 1/3 of the will (£160k) should be given to the daughter - else she would have remained in considerable hardship. The key factor in the ruling was the hardship - meaning that if the daughter was rich, wealthy, had no dependants (the kids) then she would have got nothing.. controversial yes, sensible probably (IMHO).
Since when has being sensible had anything to do with money? Tax aside I'd like to do whatever I want with my money.
I reckon Mr Kyle would have told the daughter to deal with it. The judge seems to have over stepped the mark as far as I'm concerned.
That aside,I can't help thinking the daughter would be in a better financial position with a more rigorous approach to family planning.
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So if your kids are pricks you can only cut them out if they're not poor? I have no understanding of how this can be legal.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-33684937
Essentially...
Mum excludes only daughter from will, leaves it all to charity, leaves a letter to explain why her daughter isn't getting anything...then the judge overrules and gives the daughter a lump sum. Precedent now set. Buuuuuullllssshhhiii.....ttttt.
OK - heard an at length discussion about this on the radio this morning - including with a lawyer who had been following the case.
1. The deceased excluded her daughter from her will, as her daughter had run off with the deceaseds partner - and subsequently had children with him (and they are still together).
2. The deceased left her entire estate to two animal charities that she had no connection with
3. The daughter was/is in considerable financial hardship.
So - the judge decided that approximately 1/3 of the will (£160k) should be given to the daughter - else she would have remained in considerable hardship. The key factor in the ruling was the hardship - meaning that if the daughter was rich, wealthy, had no dependants (the kids) then she would have got nothing.. controversial yes, sensible probably (IMHO).
And yet I still don't see why the judge has any legal right at all to redistribute private wealth in that way. In last year's Ice Bucket Challenge frenzy, I remember some discussion around how cost effective it was to donate to the ALS/MND charities, with some levelling criticism at what was essentially a popularist social meme and suggesting donations be made with regard to GiveWell instead. Why did a judge not step in then and redirect public donations to charity to those people or charities in hardship?
This presumably means that all parents have a legal duty to make financial provision for their children, regardless of whether the children have long since become adults responsible for their own affairs, regardless of whether the parents have decided the children are little shits and want nothing more to do with them?
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I cant find any reference to the instrument under which this judgement was contested. Does anyone know, certainly nothing in this:
http://www.hughjames.com/service/contested-wills-trusts-and-estates/contesting-a-will/grounds-for-contesting-a-will/#rectification-and-construction-claims
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"Mrs Ilott challenged the will in 2007 under a right to “reasonable provision” which is contained in the 1975 Inheritance Act. It is normally used for young children who are left out of wills, but in 2011, Mrs Ilott won £50,000 from the estate before challenging for more money. She lost in the High Court last year but succeeded in the Court of Appeal." - from the telegraph
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"Mrs Ilott challenged the will in 2007 under a right to “reasonable provision” which is contained in the 1975 Inheritance Act. It is normally used for young children who are left out of wills, but in 2011, Mrs Ilott won £50,000 from the estate before challenging for more money. She lost in the High Court last year but succeeded in the Court of Appeal." - from the telegraph
I was incorrect about the running off with the mothers partner part it would appear... sorry..
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I'm always a bit confused with this "precedent" bit. Surely a precedent can't be set by one judge, if you follow my meaning. This ruling is ridiculous, how come "the house" or whatever the judges institution is can't say "hold on a minute this is absolutely nothing to do with us who do we think we are? Judge x you're sacked for not knowing it's nothing to do with us, thrown into the mix that you've made us look a bigger bunch of cunts than bear grylls on roids you can hand your gavel in on the way out"
Wtf?
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This clears up the bit about what legal instrument was used:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1975/63
1 Application for financial provision from deceased’s estate..
(1)Where after the commencement of this Act a person dies domiciled in England and Wales and is survived by any of the following persons:— .
(a)the wife or husband of the deceased; .
(b)a former wife or former husband of the deceased who has not remarried; .
[F1(ba)any person (not being a person included in paragraph (a) or (b) above) to whom subsection (1A) below applies;] .
(c)a child of the deceased; .
(d)any person (not being a child of the deceased) who, in the case of any marriage to which the deceased was at any time a party, was treated by the deceased as a child of the family in relation to that marriage; .
(e)any person (not being a person included in the foregoing paragraphs of this subsection) who immediately before the death of the deceased was being maintained, either wholly or partly, by the deceased; .
that person may apply to the court for an order under section 2 of this Act on the ground that the disposition of the deceased’s estate effected by his will or the law relating to intestacy, or the combination of his will and that law, is not such as to make reasonable financial provision for the applicant.
In this Act “reasonable financial provision”— .
(a)in the case of an application made by virtue of subsection (1)(a) above by the husband or wife of the deceased (except where the marriage with the deceased was the subject of a decree of judicial separation and at the date of death the decree was in force and the separation was continuing), means such financial provision as it would be reasonable in all the circumstances of the case for a husband or wife to receive, whether or not that provision is required for his or her maintenance; .
(b)in the case of any other application made by virtue of subsection (1) above, means such financial provision as it would be reasonable in all the circumstances of the case for the applicant to receive for his maintenance.
Regardless of how the legislation might be most often used, it makes no mention of an age limit on children. In light of this, TomTom's arguments start to make more sense. So in this case, the judge has examined all the circumstances of the case, decided that the mother was not reasonable in her choice to disinherit the daughter, and that it would have otherwise been reasonable of the mother to lift her daughter out of financial hardship.
I don't think a decision of the net benefit to society will have come into it anywhere.
It would have been interesting to see what the judge's decision would have been had the daughter run off with the mother's partner! Or indeed if the benefactor of the estate had been somebody more in need than the daughter, with the value of the estate insufficient to cover both their needs etc etc.
I don't know what to make of this now. I can see the value of the legislation but I'm now unsure as to whether the daughter should have received the money. Note paragraph a in the second quote bubble which seems to suggest that spouses who have become accustomed to a particular standard of living, but who have not inherited, may also make similar applications. Another moral minefield!
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The actual judgement:
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ilott_final_24_0_7.pdf (https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ilott_final_24_0_7.pdf)
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I've skim-read the first few pages, thanks Ru.
I'm still uncomfortable with the idea that this woman was somehow entitled to some of the estate. If you have capacity to make a will, that should be it. Otherwise, what's the point in making one?
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Spend it whilst you have it seems to be the lesson here.
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Thanks for posting, Ru. I wouldn't have known to look for that. Having read the ruling it is interesting and I now agree with the judgement.
The legislation basically tells the court to look at all the relevant circumstances of the case. In this case these include but are not limited to:
The daughters estrangement by the mother was deemed unreasonable by two separate courts. It was noted that the estrangement was not wholly the fault of the mother, but that it was unreasonable. There is evidence to suggest that the mother was unable to maintain long term relationships throughout her life. Had there been reasonable grounds for disinheritance then the ruling could well have been different.
The daughters claim was limited to the provision of maintenance. She'll be buying no sports cars. The judge has limited the claim in this respect. The original decision to award the daughter 50k was based on erroneous assumptions that any greater award would cause the daughter to lose income on net (due to a loss of state benefits).
The fact that the daughter is an adult child who had lived independently for many years was taken into account and did weigh against the appellant, but not sufficiently so to disinherit her.
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The original decision was she gets 50k but on applying to a higher court she got 1/3 of 160k? Have I lost it as usual? An extra 3.33k! Makes me wonder about the point of wills if you can't do with them what you stipulate...
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No, 1/3 of the estate which was ~£480k, ie ~£160k
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Ah only saw the 160 bit :slap:
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It looks like I will have to change my will as there now seems to be little point leaving my vast fortune to UKBouldering.
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You don't need to change it webbo, apparently your opinion on what you want to do with your own money doesn't count for much
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Personally, I find it encouraging that the a substantial proportion of the worlds wealth is no longer entirely in the control of the dead...
You can't take it with you chaps.
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What are you talking about? I've never heard of anyone making a will when they're dead, maybe that episode of house but in reality no.
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I don't agree with Matt's sentiment. No, you can't take it with you, but you can choose how it should get divvied up, you commie!
It really is worth reading that ruling if you found the story at all interesting.
The legislation is clear that the court may look at "all the circumstances of the case".
So you can still disinherit a child/unmarried ex/dependent; however they may challenge this and seek to amend the disposition of the will if:
a) the reason for their disinheritance is unreasonable (for the court to decide based on "all the circumstances of the case", and;
b) the money you would get from the estate is to be used for your maintenance (so nothing from the Objects of Lust thread).
In the case of the disinheritance of a spouse, they would only need to demonstrate that the disinheritance was unreasonable, and that the amount being given from the estate is what you would reasonably expect (sports cars and private islands a go-go).
In this case the daughter satisfied criteria A because it would seem that the mother was a bit of a nutter (the latest attempt at reconcilliation failed because the daughter had named her 5th child after the mother's mother in law, whom the mother did not like) AND she was so dog poor that she could not support a reasonable standard of living herself (i.e. she needed the money for her own maintenance).
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I suppose I have mixed feelings about the concept of "property", "ownership" etc and how that pertains to death.
Which certainly shades me a little red. Orange, more precisely.
Why Should the wishes of the dead be relevant to anything really?
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I suppose I have mixed feelings about the concept of "property", "ownership" etc and how that pertains to death.
Which certainly shades me a little red. Orange, more precisely.
Why Should the wishes of the dead be relevant to anything really?
Because it's an incentive to deal with your property carefully and reasonably whilst you're alive. Otherwise, if you don't like what you suspect might be done with your property after death you might be tempted to blow the lot before you go.
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In the process of doing wills at the moment (MrsTT's is complex - mine less so)... its surprisingly less straightforward than you might think...
Though this may be some lawyer based sales scrittle ;)
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My point Matt was that its not the wishes of the dead, its the wish of the sane living person.
I say sane.
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I suppose I have mixed feelings about the concept of "property", "ownership" etc and how that pertains to death.
Which certainly shades me a little red. Orange, more precisely.
Why Should the wishes of the dead be relevant to anything really?
Because it's an incentive to deal with your property carefully and reasonably whilst you're alive. Otherwise, if you don't like what you suspect might be done with your property after death you might be tempted to blow the lot before you go.
That'd sort the economy out for a few years at least, It'd be like the late 1990s all over again
:D
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With a brief skim read of the judgment, the law that the appellant left out of the will can apply to obtain a maintenance dates back at least to the statute of 1975.
So it isn't that the judge has exercised a discretion to overrule the will to include the daughter - that's been enshrined in law for at least the last 40 years. The original judge simply misused his discretion as he took into account the appellant's state benefits where the Court of Appeal deems that he shouldn't have. Seems like the media has seized on and spun something that is rather old news.
Dense, regarding precedent, that's how the English 'common law' system works. Lower courts are bound to follow decisions of higher courts where the subject matter and law are materially the same. If a High Court judge decides something on a point of law, county court judges are bound to do the same where the facts are materially the same. In fact, much of the work of a court lawyer is arguing that the facts do or do not fit into a particular precedent, or that another precedent is more relevant. A Court of Appeal decision must be followed by High Court judges and all lower courts, and is only trumped by the House of Lords (now Supreme Court).
This makes the system efficient rather than every case being subject to the whims of the court at the time. Where a precedent leads to an outcome that is unpalatable with the social morals of the time, it could get appealed to the House of Lords for review (who might find a clever way around it), or else it falls to the government to write a new statute / Act of Parliament to bring the law into line with what society expects.
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Cheers for that concise explanation rocksteady ;D
My original outrage/incredulity was from a position of ignorance ;) I wasn't aware that the mother was barking and since nothing was said on that fact for a bit I just descended into madness. Consider Dantes inferno but the levels were more and more amounts of money being burned by your own younger and younger children all laughing harder and harder the further up you got. With myself on top, a broken man, wailing at all the ruination they had brought me.
In my own defence I did say "sane" a couple of times.
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Cheers for that concise explanation rocksteady ;D
My original outrage/incredulity was from a position of ignorance ;) I wasn't aware that the mother was barking and since nothing was said on that fact for a bit I just descended into madness. Consider Dantes inferno but the levels were more and more amounts of money being burned by your own younger and younger children all laughing harder and harder the further up you got. With myself on top, a broken man, wailing at all the ruination they had brought me.
In my own defence I did say "sane" a couple of times.
<bemused emoticon>
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This just sounds made up
http://www.suffolkgazette.com/news/morris-dancers-blind-footballers-brawl/
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But then again, it is East Anglia
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Have you seen the other news stories on that site? For example, "Joy as lorry overtakes lorry in under a mile"...
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Very much a spoof... Amusing but it's not the mash.. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/13/24fbec996857112d11694786b864337d.jpg)
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Fuck me, I am a plum :chair:
I'm now thinking the interview I heard on the radio last night was also a spoof, a female publican was talking about the flooding she'd endured "I had eight inches in my function room tonight"
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BBC Radio Solent have bred Wayne's World's Garth with Alan Partridge to create local radio's most out of touch presenter.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33904758
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I am constantly amazed at the level of luxury we indulge in this country.
I had no idea that there are two and a bit Morrison's convenience stores for each and everyone of us.
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Joking aside, yesterday in Glasgow I cycled to, and then past 9 sainsbury and tesco shit-hole city centre pizza&burger fests to a proper sized supermarket just to find puff pastry. It's not exactly fucking exotic. Why do we need all these identical, junk food, oversized convenience stores?
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Yep, here in St Marychurch (an erstwhile village swallowed by the Torbay sprawl) the shops have been replaced, over the last year or so; by "Minimarts" of Co-op, a Sainsbury and an independent (Happy Apple).
I can't imagine how they manage to be profitable, they are less than a minutes walk from each other and only five minutes walk from a full size Waitrose.
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Big out of town supermarkets => death of the small shops => unoccupied space => big supermarkets swoopin and open small versions on the cheap.
We all lose choice and variety. :wall:
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There are now (at least) 5 Sainsburys in Aberdeen city centre. Plus numerous other Tesco, Co-op etc. When I first moved here there was a single Somerfield.
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Unlike independent businesses I expect profit is also considered on a chain- not just premises-basis when considering viability. It would then make sense to occupy a less profitable lease to prevent rivals getting market share, surely?
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Big out of town supermarkets => death of the small shops => unoccupied space => big supermarkets swoopin and open small versions on the cheap.
We all lose choice and variety. :wall:
I don't think this is necessarily true. There's plenty of places, Sheffield specifically, where we have loads of big supermarkets in the suburbs but also what seems to me a thriving set of local independent shops, which seems to have settled down once all the shit ones have gone. Plenty of shoppers these days appreciate that you are getting a different product and shopping experience at a local independant rather than a supermarket.
What seems to be the issue in many cases is landlords forcing out local independants by randomly cranking up the rent to force independents out of what they see to be lucrative units. I've seen this happen numerous times in Sheffield, often accompanied by local outrage, petitions being signed etc. For instance, in walkley a nice local bakery in an old bank unit was at one point going to be forced out to make way for a Tesco. In Broomhill they were trying to force out a local hardware store to make way for a Sainsburys. In most cases the current inhabitants of the unit are doing fine and don't want to move. The landlords hold the reigns.
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It would then make sense to occupy a less profitable lease to prevent rivals getting market share, surely?
This is the approach taken by Starbucks etc.
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Unlike independent businesses I expect profit is also considered on a chain- not just premises-basis when considering viability. It would then make sense to occupy a less profitable lease to prevent rivals getting market share, surely?
Yes, but the Morrisons sale would suggest this strategy is flawed?
Along with much of the Supermarket industry, which seems to be descending into a pit of profit warnings and closures...
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I guess limiting the opposition is only the start.
After that you have to sell stuff people want to buy.
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Are we all suppressed rampant sex maniacs?
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/sep/22/guest-feedback-hans-needs-sex-two-three-times-a-day
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That was a strange read :-\
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Very.
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That was a strange read :-\
Bet you're glad they changed your name in the article though Dence?
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Bravo Zulu.
http://www.vocativ.com/news/236629/tributes-pour-in-for-vet-who-tried-to-save-others-in-oregon-shooting/?utm_source=TSE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=INF&utm_content=inf_11_42_2
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Bearly believable
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/06/hunter-shoves-arm-down-grizzly-bears-throat-to-stave-off-attack (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/06/hunter-shoves-arm-down-grizzly-bears-throat-to-stave-off-attack)
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Bearly believable
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/06/hunter-shoves-arm-down-grizzly-bears-throat-to-stave-off-attack (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/06/hunter-shoves-arm-down-grizzly-bears-throat-to-stave-off-attack)
A grizzly tale but a bit hard to swallow...
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The latest Fifa exec to look to replace Blatter is called Tokyo Sexwale!!! :lets_do_it_wild:
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The latest Fifa exec to look to replace Blatter is called Tokyo Sexwale!!! :lets_do_it_wild:
And the Norwegian Teke Bakanders?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/04/rupert-murdoch-national-geographic-staff-cuts-backlash-twitter_n_8470776.html
Twat
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I don't normally wish harm on other human beings, but if that man (and his son) just fell off the planet then the world would actually be a better place.
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http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2015/11/07/freedom-of-information-act-its-for-troublemakers-and-lazy-students-says-wolverhampton-council-boss/
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http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2015/11/07/freedom-of-information-act-its-for-troublemakers-and-lazy-students-says-wolverhampton-council-boss/
what a *unt.
I've been following the junior dr contract stuff quite closely and the level of deceit and underhand actions made by the government makes me feel sick. :no:
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Cameron really is pig-fucking ignorant and has his head up his own arse....
Cameron complains that he is “disappointed” by the council’s proposals “to make significant cuts to frontline services – from elderly day centres, to libraries, to museums. This is in addition to the unwelcome and counter-productive proposals to close children’s centres across the county.” Why, he asks, has Oxfordshire not focused instead on “making back-office savings”? Why hasn’t it sold off its surplus property? After all, there has been only “a slight fall in government grants in cash terms”. Couldn’t the county “generate savings in a more creative manner”? (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/11/david-cameron-letter-cuts-oxfordshire)
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-missing-decade-after-leaving-6823629
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Not going to end well in Mali (https://www.reddit.com/live/vy6s4l4iz5mp) :( :( :(
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Have you ever wondered what colour a total wanker is?
They're black on white, with hints of illiterate moron...
Stop the world, I want to get off.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34907983
This is going to kick things off a bit.
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Have you ever wondered what colour a total wanker is?
They're black on white, with hints of illiterate moron...
Stop the world, I want to get off.
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haha, what a chump
luckily for me my hood is quite lively even without the tourists
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What an arse. If somebody feels the need to point out what they're saying is "polite", it should be a pretty clear sign to them that they're being a cock. Bonus points duly awarded for the "some of my best friends..." cliché.
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Love that its littered with spelling and grammatical errors too. I was just waiting for the "they don't even speak English" line.
Regarding the Russian plane being shot down, it's time like this you do wonder if there's some kind of natural cosmic justice at work, given Putin seems not to bat an eyelid to shooting down a civilian airliner in Europe.
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Bonus points duly awarded for the "some of my best friends..." cliché.
Is that the Manning or the Davidson defense?
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Regarding the Russian plane being shot down, it's time like this you do wonder if there's some kind of natural cosmic justice at work, given Putin seems not to bat an eyelid to shooting down a civilian airliner in Europe.
I think a point has been made and where the news reports read "Turkey" you could viably insert "NATO".
Putin has been irritating the wrong people for a while...
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60%of my friends are not uk nationals
The steps that somebody has to take before a statement like this can be made are absolutely mind boggling. Has he got a fucking spreadsheet?!
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I bet he has 5 friends, and 3 of them are Irish.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-34918491
Report by Mr N Oshi Tcherloc
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Burglar stuck in chimney dies after homeowner lights fire (http://www.ktvu.com/news/54822096-story)
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-fan-gives-public-enemy-a-lift-to-their-arena-gig-in-his-ford-focus-1-7598943#ixzz3t40CN1Te
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-fan-gives-public-enemy-a-lift-to-their-arena-gig-in-his-ford-focus-1-7598943#ixzz3t40CN1Te
Good job he was driving a Ford Focus and not a Porsche, everyone knows '911 is a joke (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNK0VspQ0M)'. :P
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Following on from my previous post in Quality Chuffing Articles http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-34974548?SThisFB
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Luckily he'd been training steinpulls.
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but Boswell is Boswell and the bear just didn't appreciate this
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(From the man's FB account)
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What a hero. This will live in legend.
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Nick's blog makes good reading, with gory photos too..
http://nickbullock-climber.co.uk/2015/12/01/from-dawn-to-dusk-from-dusk-to-dawn/
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Sorry, missed the other thread...
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(From the man's FB account)
OK. It’s 3:51 am in Canada. My phone won't stop ringing and the emails are flooding in asking for info. The only thing I'm gunna say is that, despite me actually getting bitten, it was both Nick and I that were attacked. It was just as terrifying for him as it was for me. I literally owe my life to Nick. I was in shock after the incident and didn't know what to do. Nick got me out of there and drove me to the hospital! It wasn't a one man mission to stay alive like the media is portraying, it was a friend doing as much as he could in a crazy situation to keep his friend from dying! I probably would have died of hypothermia or blood loss if he hadn't kept me going. My stupid idea was to climb a tree and wait until daylight. 12 hours in -20'c and with some serious bleeding to my lower leg is not the best way to spend the night. I can't thank Nick enough, even though I know I don't have to. Cheers bro! Xx
Sauce (http://www.planetmountain.com/english/News/shownews1.lasso?l=2&keyid=43250#) (probably not original though)
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(http://i.imgur.com/XsRBM6S.jpg)
Fucking idiot...
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Idiot(s)
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Actually, I see little sense in bombing. It has very little chance of achieving very much.
Military action would need to be on the ground to achieve anything.
The main problem being the Media's interpretation of that action. Militarily, the Iraq and Afgan campaigns were successful.
The repercussions of those actions, however...
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This is very, very worrying...
Young people who question the Government or media may be extremists, officials tell parents
A leaflet distributed as part of an anti-extremism drive says these signs are 'specific' to radicalisation (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/young-people-who-question-government-policy-or-the-media-may-be-extremists-officials-tell-parents-a6756086.html)
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/britons-prepare-for-war-with-brief-chat-at-work-20151202104378
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http://newsthump.com/2015/12/02/cameron-insists-destruction-of-alderaan-will-stop-rebel-alliance-once-and-for-all/
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Dailymash and Newsthump aren't really news are they, they're satire.
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I trust them a shit tonne more than most other media outlets
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They certainly get to the heart of the matter and cut the crap, but are really just taking the (deserved) piss out of the media and the majority of the public and don't add much context/content/details/facts/new information.
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This cunt deserved everything he got (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield-sex-attacker-left-battered-and-bruised-by-heroic-young-woman-he-dragged-into-bushes-1-7601184) trying to excuse it because he was drunk, what a fucking arsehole.
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http://newsthump.com/2015/12/03/everything-now-completely-fine/
Today I shall mostly be sarcastic with gloomy ironic intervals; winds freshening from the west later and a chance of rain...
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Apologies for the facecrook link for those who don't partake.
Où est la démocratie??
https://www.facebook.com/LoicCitations/videos/1226427657371157/
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How?
How does the world get so fucked up that this constitutes "Top Stories" of the BBC news site?
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We're doomed!
Doomed, I tell you!
Doooooooommmedd!
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Ps.
Not doomed by Muslims intent on a Caliphate.
No.
Doomed by Fuckwit billionaires and social media twatmonkies and the general dumbfuckwittery of society at large.
Aaarrrrggghhhh!
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This is grade A dynamite. The surname of the victim!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-35100078
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Amazing.
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"unsavoury" :D
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The plot thickens....
The wife's first name is "Rubbina", so if she married the victim, she'd have a hell of a new name!
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Utterly irrefutable...
Images show ‘evidence’ that Vladimir Putin is ‘immortal ageless time traveller’ (http://home.bt.com/news/odd-news/images-show-evidence-that-vladimir-putin-is-immortal-ageless-time-traveller-11364029158182)
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Norwegians propose to give Finland a mountain top as centennial gift.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/12055542/Norway-launches-campaign-to-give-Finland-a-mountain.html
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Norwegians propose to give Finland a mountain top as centennial gift.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/12055542/Norway-launches-campaign-to-give-Finland-a-mountain.html
Excellent idea, a more widespread implementation of the concept could remedy a number of unfortunate geographical deficiencies. Norway is short of flat bits, one stunning mountain dropping straight into the sea after another gets a bit same-y. Finland could provide some boring fens and birch forests as a quid pro quo.
Could we persuade the Spanish to give us two or three decent sport-climbing crags? They've clearly got far more than they need and, as Gibraltar demonstrates, happily tolerate a British enclave. Think of the benefit to the surrounding local economy. I'm not sure what the payback would be though...
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Pasties.
Proper steak 'uns, w'nout b' teddies, uniun n'bliddy gurt chunks o' steak.
Prop'r job, m'luver; tha'll see um roight.
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Monty Python scenes in South Yorkshire
A privatised part of the Probation Service could be brought back into public hands after the French catering firm chosen to run it in a significant English region failed a Ministry of Justice (MoJ) audit
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/probation-services-in-south-yorkshire-could-be-renationalised-after-firm-fails-ministry-of-justice-a6780881.html
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You couldn't make it up!!!
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Talking to MrsTT (left after the PO reshuffle) it's not at all surprising. Sadly. Failing Grayling. Bellend.
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Monty Python scenes in South Yorkshire
A privatised part of the Probation Service could be brought back into public hands after the French catering firm chosen to run it in a significant English region failed a Ministry of Justice (MoJ) audit
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/probation-services-in-south-yorkshire-could-be-renationalised-after-firm-fails-ministry-of-justice-a6780881.html
Apparently the French Catering firm's company motto is "let them eat cake"
I wanted to join the probation service, glad I didn't.
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Monty Python scenes in South Yorkshire
A privatised part of the Probation Service could be brought back into public hands after the French catering firm chosen to run it in a significant English region failed a Ministry of Justice (MoJ) audit
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/probation-services-in-south-yorkshire-could-be-renationalised-after-firm-fails-ministry-of-justice-a6780881.html
Apparently the French Catering firm's company motto is "let them eat cake"
I wanted to join the probation service, glad I didn't.
Being on the run from Big M at Rockcity probably didn't look that good on your C.V.
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I recon youd be a great PO Guy, but it's a job with a horrible workload where you have to take shortcuts if you don't want to stay late every night. And the effects of shortcuts can be very very bad :( mrsTT misses the in the trenches spirit of her colleagues but nothing else. Another important job that people do because they care about other people devalued....
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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/dec/22/cameron-osborne-and-murdoch-back-together-at-moguls-christmas-knees-up
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Actually, I see little sense in bombing. It has very little chance of achieving very much.
Military action would need to be on the ground to achieve anything.
The main problem being the Media's interpretation of that action. Militarily, the Iraq and Afgan campaigns were successful.
The repercussions of those actions, however...
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I know its old but have you read about Afghan recently? Its grim.
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Actually, I see little sense in bombing. It has very little chance of achieving very much.
Military action would need to be on the ground to achieve anything.
The main problem being the Media's interpretation of that action. Militarily, the Iraq and Afgan campaigns were successful.
The repercussions of those actions, however...
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I know its old but have you read about Afghan recently? Its grim.
There's those pesky "repercussions" again.
Anyone would think we're too stupid to learn the lessons of history.
Things like, the fighting and winning of battles does not kill an idea or letting corrupt politicians (is there any other sort?) and greedy profiteers "help" rebuild wartorn nations (and relieve them of their onerous and burdensome natural resources); tends to cause more trouble than than the battles
Or, that trying to use the sledge hammer that is an army, as a Police force; is so fucking dumb it hurts.
Or, that using 200kg of HE (however "smart" it might be) to kill a room full of legitimate targets tends to spill over and do more than peel the paint in the room next door; in fact it might peel paint several streets away.
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Ah yes, the " I have a Landie and I can go anywhere" club.
Pretty sure this guy was in "The Fast Show", bitd....
UK flooding: Moment man rescued through car sunroof
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35184706
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Viewing it all from a distance and not knowing how these places normally look, it has been had to truly grasp how much water is inundating the North right now; then I saw this:
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/01/turkish-president-recep-tayyip-erdogan-hitlers-germany-example-effective-government (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/01/turkish-president-recep-tayyip-erdogan-hitlers-germany-example-effective-government)
Not a presidential role model for many I would hope :wall:
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VanillaIsis, Isis, baby.
Social media certainly provides a wonderful arena for mocking the self-righteous morons of the world.
(Irony intended).
http://distractify.com/fyi/2016/01/04/veronica-oregon-standoff?utm_content=inf_11_53_2&tse_id=INF_46e6343a2d774c398503476be48e44a7
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A month or so old now, but an interview with Greg Boswell "I survived a grizzly bear attack (http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/greg-boswell-i-survived-a-grizzly-bear-attack)".
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6Music have a new policy for reading the news that reflects public opinion of politicians (https://soundcloud.com/kismetic/jeremy-khunt)
:lol:
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Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature (http://www.smh.com.au/action/printArticle?id=1004447850)
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Same old shit, different day.
Genocide by a thousand paper cuts.
http://m.mic.com/articles/132066/the-burns-paiute-tribe-has-a-message-for-the-oregon-militia-get-the-hell-out-of-here?utm_source=policymicFB&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=WHFacebook&utm_content=inf_11_285_2&tse_id=INF_bbbb496b3aee4387b47cd20f6ccc06f2
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I wonder what first attracted Jerry Hall to the billionaire Rupert Murdoch?
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I wonder what first attracted Jerry Hall to the billionaire Rupert Murdoch?
https://twitter.com/alicewhitey/status/686844537516457984
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-35310932
Wonder if someone tipping water on your head will add to the "reality"
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https://www.rt.com/news/331572-industrial-climber-rope-cut/
Got to suck!
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I should think she's being accused of attempted murder
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She is?
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Had someone attempt to do the very same thing to me, DT90 and some other reprobates... she had a few determined attempts.
Caused a little concern at the time.
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Oh some many to choose from... :o :sick: :badidea: :slap: :alien: :guilty:
http://gu.com/p/4ha8f
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Wow! Not even the nicest man in the cabinet.
Iain Duncan Smith quits over planned disability benefit changes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35848687
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Or....
Quits after years of universal credit failures.
Allowing him to focus on brexit campaigning
To come back in swinging on Boris' knackers if BoJo becomes PM.
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Or....
Quits after years of universal credit failures.
Allowing him to focus on brexit campaigning
To come back in swinging on Boris' knackers if BoJo becomes PM.
Yep, could be the start of coup.
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Anyone fancy getting their kit off in 'ull?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-35918834
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Anyone fancy getting their kit off in 'ull?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-35918834
Interesting this one - much slated by some luurcals, but the artist has a lot of kudos. It's a bit of a coup really....
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Indeed! One of my bro's has done a couple of them before. I'm up for it but don't know if I can be arsed travelling to Hull just to get my kit off :spank:
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Indeed! One of my bro's has done a couple of them before. I'm up for it but don't know if I can be arsed travelling to Hull just to get my kit off :spank:
It's on a Saturday - go take the kids to the Deep... If they like aquarium thingies it's pretty good.
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Panama Papers (http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/)
Over a year ago, an anonymous source contacted the Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) and submitted encrypted internal documents from Mossack Fonseca, a Panamanian law firm that sells anonymous offshore companies around the world. These shell firms enable their owners to cover up their business dealings, no matter how shady.
In the months that followed, the number of documents continued to grow far beyond the original leak. Ultimately, SZ acquired about 2.6 terabytes of data, making the leak the biggest that journalists had ever worked with. The source wanted neither financial compensation nor anything else in return, apart from a few security measures.
The data provides rare insights into a world that can only exist in the shadows. It proves how a global industry led by major banks, legal firms, and asset management companies secretly manages the estates of the world’s rich and famous: from politicians, Fifa officials, fraudsters and drug smugglers, to celebrities and professional athletes.
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/
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Panama Papers (http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/)
Over a year ago, an anonymous source contacted the Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) and submitted encrypted internal documents from Mossack Fonseca, a Panamanian law firm that sells anonymous offshore companies around the world. These shell firms enable their owners to cover up their business dealings, no matter how shady.
In the months that followed, the number of documents continued to grow far beyond the original leak. Ultimately, SZ acquired about 2.6 terabytes of data, making the leak the biggest that journalists had ever worked with. The source wanted neither financial compensation nor anything else in return, apart from a few security measures.
The data provides rare insights into a world that can only exist in the shadows. It proves how a global industry led by major banks, legal firms, and asset management companies secretly manages the estates of the world’s rich and famous: from politicians, Fifa officials, fraudsters and drug smugglers, to celebrities and professional athletes.
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/
Lovely.
Anyone surprised?
I think I laid out, on a different thread, how I (quite legally) used to arrange registration and ownership of large (multimillion) yachts.
1: Register company one in suitable jurisdiction (Bahamas, Virgins, Bermuda......),
2: Company one buys (off the shelf) company two in a.n.other suitable jurisdiction.
3: Company two registers as a "Foreign Maritime Entity" in a favourable Maritime Registry (usually a Red Ensign, as they have good safety/manning/inspection reputations and regulations and this adds value) and buys company three off the shelf.
4: Vessel is Listed as property of Company three and registered in Maritime Jurisdiction, taxes etc all paid in that jurisdiction.
5: The vessel it's self is never sold, only shares in company one, meaning that tracing the Beneficial owner means getting three different Jurisdictions to reveal directors and shareholders and if those are foils too, well....
This is pretty common in the Maritime world, though it has more to do with liability than finance (well, both (and one of the reasons I quit)).
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And the BBC jump on the news that Gadaffi, Putin, Mubarrek and Assad all had/have shady companies. Am I surprised? No. Does it provide any reason to escalate the current conflicts even more? Not in my opinion.
I love how they point their condescending fingers but have decided to keep quiet about our fine Mr Cameron's father, Ian Cameron and his links to this leak....
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It looks like the main source and other papers (like the guardian) have been working on the material for a number of weeks - much like the wiki leaks case - so most of what the BBC are reporting is the scraps so far released by these sources. 5 million emails, over a million pdf docs - it's huge and will keep on giving...
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And the BBC jump on the news that Gadaffi, Putin, Mubarrek and Assad all had/have shady companies. Am I surprised? No. Does it provide any reason to escalate the current conflicts even more? Not in my opinion.
I love how they point their condescending fingers but have decided to keep quiet about our fine Mr Cameron's father, Ian Cameron and his links to this leak....
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/
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And the BBC jump on the news that Gadaffi, Putin, Mubarrek and Assad all had/have shady companies. Am I surprised? No. Does it provide any reason to escalate the current conflicts even more? Not in my opinion.
I love how they point their condescending fingers but have decided to keep quiet about our fine Mr Cameron's father, Ian Cameron and his links to this leak....
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/
It's the classic film plot where the hacker thinks they've shone the torch deep into the dark and cobwebbed corners, exposing the baddies for who they are, only to realise the web is spun all around them.
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And the BBC jump on the news that Gadaffi, Putin, Mubarrek and Assad all had/have shady companies. Am I surprised? No. Does it provide any reason to escalate the current conflicts even more? Not in my opinion.
I love how they point their condescending fingers but have decided to keep quiet about our fine Mr Cameron's father, Ian Cameron and his links to this leak....
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/
It's the classic film plot where the hacker thinks they've shone the torch deep into the dark and cobwebbed corners, exposing the baddies for who they are, only to realise the web is spun all around them.
Not entirely stifled...
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/04/04/greatest-tax-scandal-history-exposes-david-camerons-millionaire-father/
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Passing 2.6Terabytes to a German newspaper who have decided to keep it under lock and key is not quite the same as depositing all the leaked documents somewhere publicly available for anyone to access such as WikiLeaks though.
Someone has started doing clever things with what information they have available....
Map of where money is hiding based on the Panama Papers (https://briankilmartin.cartodb.com/viz/54ddb5c0-f80e-11e5-9a9c-0e5db1731f59/embed_map)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/after-finally-admitting-he-did-have-a-stake-in-his-fathers-offshore-fund-cameron-needs-to-resign-and-a6973631.html
Blunt, for a national (semi) Broadsheet.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/after-finally-admitting-he-did-have-a-stake-in-his-fathers-offshore-fund-cameron-needs-to-resign-and-a6973631.html
Blunt, for a national (semi) Broadsheet.
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Very. Surprised theres not been more said about his use of Rich Bastard (I think thats what he said) in the copy...
BTW - for those doubting the BBC/Guardian would take on the Cameron story....
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Fantastic as the prospect of Hameron being forced to resign is, the fly in that ointment is we'll probably then end up with Osborne as PM instead.
But on the other hand I can't believe for a second that Gideon isn't involved in some way in some kind of dodgy tax dodging schemes with his millions. As the main ideological point of being a Tory is to act in total self interest instead of the collective good, and tax dodging is I suppose the ultimate expression of self-interest. Thus I wouldn't be surprised if most if not all of the rich Tory top brass are up to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-gY20Xjrws
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More shocking than him have had shares would have been if he didn't. His hypocrisy to say that he didn't benefit from his fathers off shore tax free company is just ridiculous, he must have had a fucking huge paper round to pay himself through Eton, the lack of deafening calls for him to resign from most sides of parliament suggest that they all think it's acceptable, as no doubt they all have them themselves.
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I like this bit too:
"Cameron also admitted he did not know whether the £300,000 he inherited from his father had benefited from tax haven status due to part of his estate being based in a unit trust in Jersey." (http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/david-cameron-admits-he-profited-fathers-offshore-fund-panama-papers)
Hmm yeah I'm sure the trust was based in Jersey for a completely different reason to tax avoidance... ::)
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
Fair enough. But if you were to talk at length at how bad it was then people would think you were a w*nker non?
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Interesting to read this from 2013 during this current political shitstorm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10260728/Labours-property-firm-paid-no-tax-for-eight-years.html
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
Me too, but then I wouldn't be a politician on the TV talking about how morally corrupt avoiding tax is. I'd be snorting substances off a high class escort's ass wearing freshly pressed yellow E9 trousers and a wolf vest.
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
Me too, but then I wouldn't be a politician on the TV talking about how morally corrupt avoiding tax is. I'd be snorting substances off a high class escort's ass wearing freshly pressed yellow E9 trousers and a wolf vest.
I have a feeling the two aren't mutually exclusive...
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
Me too, but then I wouldn't be a politician on the TV talking about how morally corrupt avoiding tax is. I'd be snorting substances off a high class escort's ass wearing freshly pressed yellow E9 trousers and a wolf vest.
I have a feeling the two aren't mutually exclusive...
never seen a politician in a wolf vest, could be a vote winner
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
Me too, but then I wouldn't be a politician on the TV talking about how morally corrupt avoiding tax is. I'd be snorting substances off a high class escort's ass wearing freshly pressed yellow E9 trousers and a wolf vest.
I have a feeling the two aren't mutually exclusive...
never seen a politician in a wolf vest, could be a vote winner
I bet Portillo rocks a pair of pressed yellow strides from time to time.. he's got form for this sort of thing...
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Might have known no wolf vest yet
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If I had a shit load of money it'd be somewhere else too
Not everyone with money thinks like that though.
For example JK Rowling (http://www.businessinsider.com/jk-rowling-on-high-taxes-2012-9?IR=T) who now has a fair amount of spare cash kicking around gives her reasons for not avoiding paying tax in this country...
I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.
A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug
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It's all very well for those in government to grandstand about how simply awful it is for people to arrange their financial affairs in the most favourable way but unless they can legislate effectively then it's all utterly meaningless. Our current financial regulation system hasn't kept up with globalisation. I'd wager that the vast majority of what's in the Panama stuff will be as legal as milk.
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Space X landed the first stage on the droneship today, 27min to 37min is the good bit : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7pUAydjne5M
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Given the altitude they were found at, these have to be 1500 year old climbing shoes!
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Mummified ancient climbing girl!
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/1500-year-old-mummy-looks-its-wearing-adidas-trainers
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Predecessor to Boreal Stinger?
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new style Lasers
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It's starting to bite...
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/8253/breaking-industrial-action-in-north-sea-as-63-sea-shell-workers-down-tools-and-demand-choppers/
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Great in depth article about Uber... Good journalism.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/27/how-uber-conquered-london
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Thought this was interesting, bit of balance on the handwringing labour/ken livingstone thing. http://www.jewishsocialist.org.uk/news/item/statement-on-labours-problem-with-antisemitism-from-the-jewish-socialists-g#.VyLuSV-Ybax.twitter
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I hope no-one from here was flying that way this weekend.
CHC just announced (yesterday?) that they thought they'd dodged the administration bullet...
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/8335/no-sign-of-survivors-in-north-sea-super-puma-crash/
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Just in case any of the Offshore types on here are flying soon. I hope they keep the Pumas grounded.
It seems unlikely that pilot error might have caused the rotor head to detach and "they" will struggle to blame those cannot answer back.
For once.
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/highlights/8342/unbelievable-video-shows-super-pumas-rotor-blades-flying-through-the-air/
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That's horrific. I'm glad I'm not taking flights regularly any more. Poor lads.
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That's horrific. I'm glad I'm not taking flights regularly any more. Poor lads.
There has to be a connection to this:
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/8331/chc-fights-the-clock-to-avoid-bankruptcy-after-missed-payment/
That and and the two 100hr delays on rotor service of that airframe in 2015...
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Yeah! No way they'll get away with that.
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Quite a lot has been written about Hillsborough this week.
This is some article.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/01/hillsborough-inquest-survivor-adrian-tempany?CMP=twt_gu
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Thanks for posting that up. I thought it would be great if we could at least express support for the families and friends of the 96 who died at Hillsborough, as a mark of respect for their courage and determination in their fight for the truth.
There were some remarkably moving, and upsetting comments from Bishop Lowe on BBC 5 live last night.
Well done to you all.
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not a finite resource
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/the-price-of-legal-pot-is-collapsing/?tid=pm_business_pop_b
I wonder whether they'll change the tax?
does using it still exclude people from certain claims on their health insurance?
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not a finite resource
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/the-price-of-legal-pot-is-collapsing/?tid=pm_business_pop_b
I wonder whether they'll change the tax?
does using it still exclude people from certain claims on their health insurance?
You'd think they'd change the tax wouldn't you? A straight 4 dollars a gram or whatever they decide upon.
As for health insurance policies, don't those have clauses about overuse of alcohol and the likes already? I guess if you have declared that you are a non smoker, but are now puffing away occasionally, you could find that your insurance company won't pay up ( when they find out, that is, I reckon they're pretty good at finding out)
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Watch out Purple Aki's about....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muscle-obsessed-bodybuilder-vows-reinvent-7906495
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what's his username on here?
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what's his username on here?
I dunno - but I bet its one of the scousers ;)
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Watch out Purple Aki's about....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muscle-obsessed-bodybuilder-vows-reinvent-7906495
pretty impressive that he represented himself and got a result - I like his argument (they still sentenced him)
I find the judges comments interesting
The ban on touching muscles is just not on...
I’m not into bodybuilding myself, but I’d have thought men who have muscles in their arms the diameter of my leg are the sort of men who will admire each other’s bodies.
They don’t build the body up to hide it under loose-fitting sweatshirts. They are men likely to talk to and weigh and measure each other."
it's not a million miles away from "birds with short skirts want to be whistled at"
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Yeah, that's a very worrying comment from a judge!
what's his username on here?
I dunno - but I bet its one of the scousers ;)
They do have a bizarre nfatuation with the lid.
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Interesting...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36323823
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Compare and contrast - which flavour of propaganda would you prefer:
https://www.rt.com/sport/346503-euro2016-england-fans-jail/
vs:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36515213
and somewhere in the middle:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/euro-2016-violence-england-russia-final-warning-160612183147970.html
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Quote from a scene of crime officer in Orlando last night.
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Makes a change from the usual stink in football these days.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36605999/swedish-footballer-sent-off-for-farting-on-the-pitch
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anyone got an update on this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873106/Actor-Alan-Davies-grabbed-climbing-instructor-s-throat-leisure-centre-children-scuffle-stairs.html
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Guy loses $500 engagement ring proposing on the top of the Grand Teton (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/activities/hiking-and-backpacking/grand-teton-proposal/)
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Guy loses $500 engagement ring proposing on the top of the Grand Teton (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/activities/hiking-and-backpacking/grand-teton-proposal/)
:dance1: Have a party everyone:
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anyone got an update on this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873106/Actor-Alan-Davies-grabbed-climbing-instructor-s-throat-leisure-centre-children-scuffle-stairs.html
Quote from a police spokesperson "in light of the recent evidence that was brought to our attention, mainly the use of V grades for bouldering, we have decided that there was sufficient provocation and extenuating circumstances for Mr Davies' actions. Therefore no further action was taken in the matter"
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France. Again. FFS :'(
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It's terrible - like a plot from a horror film.
How?
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One twisted bloke and a truck, how do you stop that event from happening? So sad
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:no: :'(
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https://mobile.twitter.com/martelclem/status/753767828143083520/photo/1
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It gets worse.
We were in Sarlat, after a day's Canoeing, for an Ice cream and there were Sticks of Infantry patrolling (at least 10 per squad) with light weapons.
We didn't get the news until reaching home just now.
Must take some guts to overpower an 84 year old priest.
Not.
Wankers.
All posts either sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek or mildly mocking-in-a-friendly-way unless otherwise stated. Looking at you, here, Dense.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/28/norway-finland-move-mountain-halti-halditsohkka-highest-peak
Giving the bloody things away!
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Only in Cumbria..... :lets_do_it_wild: :slap: :badidea:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-37012800
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Back around:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/29/mount-everest-summit-india-couple-morphed-photos (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/29/mount-everest-summit-india-couple-morphed-photos)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37220799
reckon they will ever repay it?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37220799
reckon they will ever repay it?
Bloody meddling EU, trying to get global corporations to pay the proper level of tax, best out of it I say and let them get away with what they like.
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The irony is Ireland don't want the tax, as taking it makes them less attractive as a corporate tax haven for other businesses. Even though if they took it it'd be enough money to give every person in Ireland over €2500 each in cash.
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The irony is Ireland don't want the tax, as taking it makes them less attractive as a corporate tax haven for other businesses. Even though if they took it it'd be enough money to give every person in Ireland over €2500 each in cash.
(I believe) Amazon are paying the full whack for taxes for any activities in Ireland, it's just for places outside of Ireland they are getting away with this taking the piss low rate.
But yes, obviously Ireland don't want it, it puts corporations off, same with recent cases against Starbucks in Netherlands, and Chrysler / Fiat in Luxembourg.
Looks like Amazon are setting up a warehouse in Portlethen up here, preparing for Brexit? :)
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Isn't that the point? The commisioner's ruling is effectively against Ireland for unlawfully undercutting other member states of the EU to get Apple to register there.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37439914
:oops:
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/23/why-amazing-video-games-could-be-causing-a-big-problem-for-america/
that and free internet pr0n
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http://rochdaleherald.co.uk/wanker-punches-dickhead-dickhead-serious-condition/
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Ho Hum..
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/10/13/government-guide-to-marmite-shortages/#.V_-LvMlkayI.facebook
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Ho Hum..
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/10/13/government-guide-to-marmite-shortages/#.V_-LvMlkayI.facebook
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Glad I stocked up my emergency jars on Monday :thumbsup:
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Thank God it's over.
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Thank Fuck for that. News about my favourite yeast extract is clearly more important than whatever is happening in Syria at the moment.....
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Yet HM Government went to all this bother to issue guidance...
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(/via The Poke (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/10/13/government-guide-to-marmite-shortages/))
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If only they could have issued that guidance in a resizable gif ;)
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So it could be linked to? :shrug:
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So it could be linked to? :shrug:
As I did, three posts earlier?
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Exactly.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/08/snake-on-a-plane-passengers-flight-mexico-city
Make a great film
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/08/snake-on-a-plane-passengers-flight-mexico-city
Make a great film
Whilst thats a good idea - I suggest making it into a great idea by having more than one snake. In fact lets McHollywood Supersize it up with a metric fuck-ton(tm) of snakes on an aircraft...
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http://mashable.com/2016/11/06/cu-in-the-nt/#BPwvflMaqqqH
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37962425
Good on LEGO.
Might have to go buy myself a millennium falcon to say thank you to them.
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Maybe I've just been ground down by the overall shitness of life in 2016 and am unduly cynical, but part of me wondered if they'd already come to the end of their agreement and just saw this as a good it of PR - after all it just says the agreement has finished (not that they've ended it) and there won't be any more in the foreseeable future (not that they never will).
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They've been doing the giveaways for years, but maybe you're right and it's PR spin, but still definitely burning the bridge for doing it in the future, and makes a stand.
The MiL always buys the Mail, so usually gets the LEGO toys for the kids, which is great for the , but feels to me like accepting blood money.
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/cabinet-split-threatens-to-derail-may-s-brexit-talks-hxfwmv2td
So, anyone come across anything tangible in the way of progress or movement on Brexit, or is it the clusterfuck it appears? Does anyone have a view on how long May can spin out her moment of power? Might be wishful thinking on my part (I'm not a fan (neither do I like Corbyn much)) but with serious challenges coming from both sids of the debate, she must be vulnerable and the calls for a GE are starting to sound quite loud.
I feel like she's only surviving because the Libs are wet and lost, Lab have lost the plot and look like a riot in a kindergarten, hardly anyone knows who the Greens are and UKIP are fucking nutters.
Has politics in the UK ever been such a joke?
Edit:
Sorry forgot the Times is paywalled.
BBC version is more "balanced" (gives the Gov. line as the predominant tone).
Government rejects leaked memo's Brexit claims
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37983948
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-renewable-energy-target-2040-country-on-track-a7381686.html?cmpid=facebook-post
Meanwhile, in Britain, Gladys Watson-KnowFA-Tosspot-Smyth leads her W.I. ladies in an heroic stand against "Big Wind" and decries the evil conspiracy to undermine honest Frackers (her husband has shares there and assures her it's all pukka).
For more information, Gladys can be found in her drawing-room, masturbating to her life-size Nigel Farage poster.
Edit:
I possibly got out of bed on the wrong side today.
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This'll cheer you up. Sequence of 4 photos... you need to read them in order :)
https://twitter.com/sepulcralshrine/status/797579347179737088
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Got a link to the story on Gladys Matt? :clown:
False, Misleading, Clickbait-y, and Satirical “News” Sources (https://docs.google.com/document/d/10eA5-mCZLSS4MQY5QGb5ewC3VAL6pLkT53V_81ZyitM/preview) collated by Melissa Zimdars, assistant professor of Media and Communications at Merrimack College.
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Got a link to the story on Gladys Matt? :clown:
False, Misleading, Clickbait-y, and Satirical “News” Sources (https://docs.google.com/document/d/10eA5-mCZLSS4MQY5QGb5ewC3VAL6pLkT53V_81ZyitM/preview) collated by Melissa Zimdars, assistant professor of Media and Communications at Merrimack College.
Here you go: https://en-gb.facebook.com/fappythedolphin/
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This'll cheer you up. Sequence of 4 photos... you need to read them in order :)
https://twitter.com/sepulcralshrine/status/797579347179737088
That's it. It's all over.
Not worth trying anymore, bring on the clowns.
Oh,
They already did.
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Here you go: https://en-gb.facebook.com/fappythedolphin/
I already found one (http://www.nottinghampost.com/nottinghamshire-county-council-approves-planning-application-for-shale-gas-drilling/story-29897699-detail/story.html)
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Here you go: https://en-gb.facebook.com/fappythedolphin/
I already found one (http://www.nottinghampost.com/nottinghamshire-county-council-approves-planning-application-for-shale-gas-drilling/story-29897699-detail/story.html)
Bollocks.
See above.
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"I'm a dwarf and have forgotten my driving license" (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/10-year-old-norwegian-boy-who-took-his-parents-car-tells-police-hes-a-dwarf-9125362.html) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I confess, my "experiments" occasionally involve shouting at inanimate objects, often in a somewhat nautical fashion, however...
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/11/21/might-think-gwyneth-paltrow-headline-good-wait-read-subheadline/
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So, it's now 2016 may be the year we know as 1984. The technically illiterate Authorocrats(tm) have pushed through the shockingly draconian Investigatory Powers Bill.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/investigatory-powers-bill-act-snoopers-charter-browsing-history-what-does-it-mean-a7436251.html
What I don't understand is who they think they'll catch? Anyone with anything to hide will just use TOR and /or VPNs to circumvent detection. Talking of which, it would be funny to try to get a mass movement of people to use TOR as their standard browser just to say "fuck you" in no uncertain terms to that witch Ms May.
Anyone use TOR?
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Fillon wins French primaire, makes it much more likely that Lepen will be next French president. I'm going to start filling sandbags for my balcony.
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Hellooooooo. This is France we're talking about. And look at the rest of the world. If the bookies weren't offering such crap odds then I'd be hurling wads of money at them for a Le Pen victory.
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Fillon wins French primaire, makes it much more likely that Lepen will be next French president. I'm going to start filling sandbags for my balcony.
Why? Don't you think he'll split the right? Wouldn't the right have coalesced more broadly around Le Pen if Juppé were the alternative?
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No, because the left won't vote for Fillon, but they would've done for Juppé. My wife's told me she doesn't care who wins between the two uf them.
Of course by next May who knows what could happen.
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Really? You feel that Le Pen is not more unacceptable than Fillon? I had the latter down as bit like D'Estaing with extra prejudice..is that wrong? There seems to me a big diffeeence between what impact the Catholic Right would have vs FN.. . Shocking stuff.
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I was hoping/calculating that Fillon had a better chance of beating Le Pen than Juppe but, as you say Fried, nowadays, who knows ...
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Really? You feel that Le Pen is not more unacceptable than Fillon? I had the latter down as bit like D'Estaing with extra prejudice..is that wrong? There seems to me a big diffeeence between what impact the Catholic Right would have vs FN.. . Shocking stuff.
I'm not saying anything of the sort! I'm just repeating what friends who had to 'hold their noses' while voting for Chirac in 2002 have told me. It seems to be one of those common knowledge things in France, no idea how accurate it is though.
I saw a client last week who was looking depressed, he told me that he'd heard fom a high up source that there is a concern that Lepen may not even need a second voting round, that shocked me and I left his office depressed too. He's not someone who's prone to sprouting hearsay.
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Colour me sceptical
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_sondages_sur_l'%C3%A9lection_pr%C3%A9sidentielle_fran%C3%A7aise_de_2017#Fillon_-_Le_Pen
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Why? Don't you think he'll split the right? Wouldn't the right have coalesced more broadly around Le Pen if Juppé were the alternative?
If one can ignore the race/religion/gay right/etc issues for a moment (a bit of a leap I know but bear with me), Le Pen has quite a left wing list of policies. Talking of centre right versus far right is far too simplistic, calling Fillon centre right as all news outlets in the UK seem to be seems a bit of stretch for a start! In an economic nutshell (from the little I know):
Le Pen
- Protect the 35hr working week
- Increase in public spending on infrastructure
- Increase public spending on medical care
Fillon
- Increase the working week
- Reduce the amount of protectionism/government intervention
- Massively reduce the public spending budget
That looks like a bid to appeal to the working classes form Le Pen to me.
There have also been reports of Le Pen picking up gay voters, Jewish voters (protecting them from the Islamist invasion, though that rhetoric might hold less water against Fillon than Juppe/Holland etc)
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Colour me sceptical
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_sondages_sur_l'%C3%A9lection_pr%C3%A9sidentielle_fran%C3%A7aise_de_2017#Fillon_-_Le_Pen
Are you saying you don't think Le Pen could win? Bearing in mind pollsters inability to predict anything at the moment and the potential for the silent Le Pen voter (i'm assuming it'd be a cultural no no to admit to being an NF voter in polite company) to come out of the woodwork on polling day I'm unsure.
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If the polls were to believed Fillon would now be unemployed.
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Fillon did quite well in the last few polls before the first round, even if he over performed a lot (and, thankfully, Sarkozy underperformed)
I fail to see how Le Pen can win a general election by promising to continue the catastrophic economical programme of PS that the electorate seems largely to reject.
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So, it's now 2016 may be the year we know as 1984. The technically illiterate Authorocrats(tm) have pushed through the shockingly draconian Investigatory Powers Bill.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/investigatory-powers-bill-act-snoopers-charter-browsing-history-what-does-it-mean-a7436251.html
What I don't understand is who they think they'll catch? Anyone with anything to hide will just use TOR and /or VPNs to circumvent detection. Talking of which, it would be funny to try to get a mass movement of people to use TOR as their standard browser just to say "fuck you" in no uncertain terms to that witch Ms May.
Anyone use TOR?
They are also pushing through the equally poorly thought-out Digital Economies Bill (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/28/lib-dems-to-oppose-uk-plan-to-block-pr0n-sites-without-age-checks).
I've used TOR, and if you are referring to just the browser then any network traffic outside of the browser would still be visible to your ISP. You can instead use a Virtual Privacy Network (VPN) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network).
Lots of information on protecting your privacy at privacytools.io (https://www.privacytools.io/).
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I'm not saying anything of the sort! I'm just repeating what friends who had to 'hold their noses' while voting for Chirac in 2002 have told me. It seems to be one of those common knowledge things in France, no idea how accurate it is though
Hi Fried I did not mean less unacceptable to you! I meant in voting outcomes.
Galpinos, yes I get the problem in terms of policies that might appeal to left learning voters under the economic cosh. Cf Ukip vs Labour. Some pretty extreme xenophobia there that might turn some away though.
Paul Masón has an interesting take on Fillon in guardián today:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/european-elite-have-developed-a-death-wish
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Hi Fried I did not mean less unacceptable to you! I meant in voting outcomes.
I'm sure you didn't, I was only mucking about.
Interesting article. France has always been a divided country, Paris feels like a seperate city-state at times, and it's difficult not to assume that the people you speak to are representative of France as a whole. France has a history of populist mobilisation, getting people onto the streets is what counts, whether it's Fillon or Lepen the country is going to grind to a standstill very quickly (if they implement the policies they say).
I predict a Fillon win and then having him revert to the grey mister nobody that he's always been (he's already played his vote for me aginst the established 'elite' card during the primaires). Another 5 years of exactly the same but with more strikes. Remember the only real difference in most peoples eyes between Sarkozy and Hollande is one of style.
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Poujadism anyone? Trump is a Poujadiste through and through. I think they're doomed in the long run, but, my god, they're going to go down fighting.
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Meanwhile, in a quiet little suburb in the quaint county of South Yorkshire, we have this:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/28/sheffield-trees-dispute-scenes-putin-russia-nick-clegg-arrests
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Hi Fried I did not mean less unacceptable to you! I meant in voting outcomes.
Galpinos, yes I get the problem in terms of policies that might appeal to left learning voters under the economic cosh. Cf Ukip vs Labour. Some pretty extreme xenophobia there that might turn some away though.
It's a pretty depressing choice, Fillon or Le Pen assuming that's how it ends up. As per Paul Mason, Thatcher or Mussolini.....
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/europe-in-turmoil-as-italian-pm-is-defeated-rbw8vgq9v (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/europe-in-turmoil-as-italian-pm-is-defeated-rbw8vgq9v)
So happy to send this buffoon home. Now he'll have to learn a job for the first time in his life. Most of all, we kept our Constitution intact, and this was the only important thing to do.
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How do you see the longer term consequences working out Lore? Obviously there will be an election. Northern League and 5 Star to win?
Austria was a relief.
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Good question Andy, good question.
First of all, a disclaimer: as an Italian, I can survive our politics only by thinking that they're all a bunch of corrupted mofos, useless people at best. This enables me to avoid thinking, to some extent, to long term consequences, because that would mean accepting the fact that nothing will ever change, because noone, at present, seems to be a reliable, honest politician.
Anyway...
This referendum was particular because, although not strictly political, it had an enormous political meaning, because the Constitutional Reform was written, sought after and promoted by the Government and not by the people.
Renzi had spent all his energies to make it pass, and of course he compromised himself with the usual moral extortion of menacing his resignation, in order to scare people about the possibility of Lega Nord or 5Stelle going to govern.
Fortunately enough, people didn't get scared.
In my case, for instance, I would have voted NO even if I'd have been certain that after Renzi there would be another Mussolini. The importance of blocking this so called reform (an abomination in reality) was more important than anything else. Prime Ministers come and go, especially here, but a Constitution could and should last forever, and the reform was purely filthy.
First of all it's a good sign, that people care about the Constitution. It was written by a Costituent Assembly that included some of the brightest juridical minds that our country has ever seen, and it carried over all the different facets of the post-fascist era, from Communism, to Socialism, to Catholicism, to Liberism.
This reform was written and conceived with partial necessities in mind, just from a single party. I won't go into the details, but it was so badly written and conceived that one famous constitutionalist said: "If it passes, I will stop teaching at university, because I can't understand what they say."
Other constitutionalists said that it was aimed at creating such a tied bond between regions and central government, that it was in fact unconstitutional, because it was going against the principle of the local autonomies, that is one of the Fundamental Principles of our Constitution.
Then, what now? The future is uncertain.
There are numerous possibilities, Renzi could be given another chance, or we could go to elections, or someone else could be called to form a new Government, even under the form of a so called Technical Government, waiting for new elections.
The main thing is: the present electoral system has been declared unconstitutional by the Constitutional Court. Mainly it's due to the fact that it's based on "blocked lists": the elector can't really chose the person that he wants to send to the Parliament; the lists, with an order of priority, are blocked and made by the political parties. So, you vote the party and the party choses the single persons following a predetermined list in whose formation the electors have no voice.
This is unconstitutional.
So, this entire Parliament, and therefore the present Government and the present President of the Republic, are deprived of valid legitimateness to stay where they are. They are unconstitutional. And yet they wanted to change the constitution... strange isn't it?
So, the first step is obviously a reform of the electoral system, leaving behind the present fraud and going back to a proportional system (with a majority prize, for sure) with open lists and preferences.
Without this, whoever comes now, will be deprived of real democratic consensus.
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Thanks. That's actually one of the best explanations that I've read. It is clearly wrong to reduce this to an Italian equivalent of Brexit/Trump.
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Cheers Andy, my pleasure.
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Comedy gold:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/officers-737519-police-irvine.html
“two police officers discovered white powder scattered through the home and reported feeling dizzy”
“The fact that it (the powder) created a low-oxygen environment made us very concerned”
“The subject who called us for assistance was evasive with the first-responders and couldn’t fully explain the items (powder) inside the location”
The slide show with pictures of US robocops is hilarious.
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That is funny.
But not as funny as BoJo insulting the Saudis right as his boss is actually visiting them!
Not that he's wrong, per se, just that he is to diplomacy what a chainsaw is to eye surgery...
http://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-accuses-uk-ally-saudi-arabia-of-playing-proxy-wars-10687393
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:lol:
“The Foreign Secretary's remarks about a UK ally playing "proxy wars" are "not the Government's views”
There cannot be many prime-ministers anywhere anytime who's been forced to say “The foreign minister's view on foreign affairs is not the government's view” :o
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She fucking appointed the idiot. She should be responsible for sacking him.
I reckon him and Trump have a bet on to see who can cause a war first.
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She fucking appointed the idiot. She should be responsible for sacking him.
I reckon him and Trump have a bet on to see who can cause a war first.
She's losing the plot. Apparently even being aggressive to her own constituents, who she feels she no longer represents, being now something more transcendent.
http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/my_brawl_over_brexit_with_prime_minister_theresa_may_1_4807899?platform=hootsuite
Of course, that's a her word against her word thing, but seems consistent with May's public posturing.
She's acting like some God anointed monarch, even attributed her actions to divine guidance, ffs. Her cabinet is a joke, pulling in different directions and each convinced they're in charge. Pretty difficult to have any faith in their ability to lead us through the difficult times ahead.
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She's acting like some God anointed monarch, even attributed her actions to divine guidance, ffs.
Totally. Following the Maggie model of batshit mental leadership.
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On the subject of comedy moments, you couldn't make up even channeling Douglas Adams...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/09/nigel-farage-scathing-attack-ukip-low-grade-people?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Facebook
Who'd a thunk it, eh?
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And today's Wank Spanner is:
The Right Honourable Ian Liddell-Grainger!
A true man of the people.
http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/14958219.Forgetful_MP_launches_angry_tirade_against_police_gun_permit_delay_after_failing_to_renew_his_firearm_license/?ref=twtrec
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-38334437
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Pie in the Sky!
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Pies the limit!
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I'm not a huge Guardian fan, but I imagine the smile of the writer of this piece being somewhat broad...
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/dec/19/mail-pays-out-150k-to-muslim-family-over-katie-hopkins-column?CMP=share_btn_tw
To my mind, there is only one "Cockroach" mentioned in the above...
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You just couldn't make it up! No one would believe you:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/22/george-cottrell-jailed-phoenix-irs/95772236/
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News must be scarce for the BBC currently.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-38496024
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:slap: :lol:
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How to Destroy the Business Model of Breitbart and Fake News (http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/opinion/sunday/how-to-destroy-the-business-model-of-breitbart-and-fake-news.html)
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Skills for navigating the current minefield of "news"....
Calling Bullshit (http://callingbullshit.org/)
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http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/naked-female-cleaners-wanted-to-clean-houses-in-leeds-for-45-an-hour-1-8339053
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My partner used to have a cleaner who would clean in the nude - its wasn't part of the deal or anything, she just liked to take her clothes off.
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My partner used to have a cleaner who would clean in the nude - its wasn't part of the deal or anything, she just liked to take her clothes off.
Do you have her number?
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My partner used to have a cleaner who would clean in the nude - its wasn't part of the deal or anything, she just liked to take her clothes off.
Do you have her number?
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Sure. Enid, 79, can be reached on 0151 ...
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In light of todays ill-thought out advice from the Food Standard Agency here is some perspective on the risk involved...
How dangerous is burnt toast? (https://wintoncentre.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/how-dangerous-burnt-toast)
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What a cunt.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-38862015
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What a cunt.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-38862015
As much as the guy is clearly a bit of a knobend, it seems a bit of a harsh sentence for something that, while pointless, stupid and unnecessary, is no more distressing for a fish than what fishermen subject to every one caught in the ocean for mass consumption; or to what sport anglers do to fish before releasing them. Every animal in nature that eats fish eats them alive.
I hope you're a vegan.
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Odori ebi contains baby shrimp that are still alive and able to move its legs and antenna while being eaten.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odori_ebi
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Our lovely authoritarian overlords are hell bent on removing any checks and balances... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/10/espionage_law_jail_journalists_as_spies/?mt=1486727545008
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Strangely, we were sat in Cockington with Polly's father as he advised the LMA on board the Dragon, how to treat the casualties. So, slight caveat to the BBC story, "Daring rescue assisted by retired Surgeon Captain (RN) sat in Tea Rooms a thousand miles away".
Welcome to the 21st century and BZ's to the guys who carry "The Bleep" just in case.
Royal Navy warship rescues stranded yacht crew in Atlantic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38944629
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Seems relevant in the post-Brexit, post-Trump, post-fact porpoganda world we live in: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/05/bbc-propaganda-hits-new-all-time-low/
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Oh, how weird, that's an article from 2014... (news haha!) it came up in my Facebook this morning, so I assumed it was new.
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Everybody on every side of every argument foams at the mouth about how biased the BBC is against them. What they really mean is that the BBC has said something that doesn't directly align with their point of view. I understand how, in this day and age of social media bubbles, this can seem unfair, but it is healthy to confront opinions that challenge your own every now and again.
Not aimed at you in any particular way Alistair, more just a gripe about people griping about the BBC.
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It's true, there's a lot of "the BBC is against *my* cause" so therefore it is biased. I'm not wholly innocent of this.
But, Brexit did show that the BBC is incapable of challenging what needs challenged. It looks like there is going to be a second Scottish indyref and I want it to be, as far as is practical, a fact based debate. (unlike Brexit) that way, whatever the outcome, people should be a bit more accepting of the outcome. There are many difficult questions that need answered.
The fact that the BBC had just cancelled plans for a dedicated Scottish BBC news at 6, which , for me, signals clear intentions to the tone of any future "debates, is telling. I don't pay licence fee (no aerial, no iplayer) but if I did I'd be wondering why we get long sections about strikes in the South East... Relevant?
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And again, an arsehole strikes!
Remember your briefings guys.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/met-police-worker-sues-for-300k-after-breaking-back-while-rock-climbing-a3468196.html
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It's true, there's a lot of "the BBC is against *my* cause" so therefore it is biased. I'm not wholly innocent of this.
But, Brexit did show that the BBC is incapable of challenging what needs challenged. It looks like there is going to be a second Scottish indyref and I want it to be, as far as is practical, a fact based debate. (unlike Brexit) that way, whatever the outcome, people should be a bit more accepting of the outcome. There are many difficult questions that need answered.
The fact that the BBC had just cancelled plans for a dedicated Scottish BBC news at 6, which , for me, signals clear intentions to the tone of any future "debates, is telling. I don't pay licence fee (no aerial, no iplayer) but if I did I'd be wondering why we get long sections about strikes in the South East... Relevant?
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Such news isn't relevant to most of England either (or Wales), but we still get it. All areas on bbc have one identical main news slot and then a local news slot. There's no reason for Scotland to be any different is there? The fact that the media is too London-centric is a valid but separate issue.
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Anyone been following the discrimination case brought against the Govt. vis "Civil Partnerships" for non-same sex couples?
Interesting that it seems a fairly positive outcome despite the case being lost 2 to 1: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/heterosexual-couples-should-not-be-allowed-civil-partnerships-court-rules
(https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/heterosexual-couples-should-not-be-allowed-civil-partnerships-court-rules)
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Anyone been following the discrimination case brought against the Govt. vis "Civil Partnerships" for non-same sex couples?
Interesting that it seems a fairly positive outcome despite the case being lost 2 to 1: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/heterosexual-couples-should-not-be-allowed-civil-partnerships-court-rules
(https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/heterosexual-couples-should-not-be-allowed-civil-partnerships-court-rules)
This is great progress, not only because I can imagine all the fuming and frothing-at-the-mouth of Daily Mail readers it'll cause.
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Could be bad progress for me because I told my other half years ago that if the govt ever extended Civil Partnerships to non-same sex couples we would get one (in the expectation that this would of course never happen)... after being harassed about my perceived lack of commitment due to not wanting to get married (for similar reasons to the plaintiffs in said case) :slap:
Not that I think there is anything "wrong" with getting married before anyone :chair:
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In Scotland, Common Law still applies so after 10 years in our relationship we are as good as married. Saves on an expensive ceremony and party for freeloaders I guess.
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I have said to her numerous times: "If it's that big a deal let's have a 'we're not getting married' party". Or alternatively a 'we haven't killed each other yet' party!
The party is the only bit I feel like we're missing out on.
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Anyone been following the discrimination case brought against the Govt. vis "Civil Partnerships" for non-same sex couples?
Interesting that it seems a fairly positive outcome despite the case being lost 2 to 1: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/heterosexual-couples-should-not-be-allowed-civil-partnerships-court-rules
(https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/21/heterosexual-couples-should-not-be-allowed-civil-partnerships-court-rules)
I must admit, it seems a baffling waste of money to me. Now gay couples can get married, what purpose does the civil partnership serve. Just have one "type" of partnership, make it a civil issue and be done with it.
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N. Korea preemptive strikes soon?!?
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Meanwhile...
Ostensibly designed to combat Daesh and yet deployed to Europe...
Anyone think of a reason?
http://defense-update.com/20170306_cmic_europe.html
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to deal with the post-Christmas plague of hobby drones in The Peak
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The latest Wikileaks shenanigans.
Anyone surprised?
Frankly, I'd always assumed the CIA/NSA or A.N.Other security/spy agency would do exactly that, as would I if I were in their place.
On the other hand, realising there are close to 7Billion people on the planet, I'm not too concerned that they're listening to me shout at the kids or viewing my browser history...
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Sanity!
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/15145328.Police_worker_who_broke_her_back_after_falling_from_a_climbing_wall_fails_to_get_compensation/?ref=fbshr
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I generally have very little respect for politicians of most stripes. I will suspend that in this case:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/westminster-attack-mp-tobias-ellwood-attempts-to-save-police-officer-stabbed-parliament-latest-a7644321.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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You couldn't make it up:
Adjacent headlines @15:30 29/03/17
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Yoga is evil, it's official
pitchfork wielding villagers corroborate the church's view
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/10/church-bans-yoga-non-christian-villagers-threaten-boycott/
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This is pretty low. NHS computer system has been hacked and a ransom has been demanded. Fuckers.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/12/hospitals-across-england-hit-by-large-scale-cyber-attack
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Can anyone in know, confirm/deny the below report and meme?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-cyber-attack-jeremy-hunt-tories-accused-ignoring-extensive-warning-signs-outdated-computers-a7734961.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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And, just because...
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Please read guys.
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Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and more than 50 hurt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886
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Please read guys.
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Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and more than 50 hurt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886
Its is horrible, thinking about all those who have got caught up in this.
What brings people to do something like this.
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Terrible news. I hope that everyone is ok.
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The location is somewhere many, many people (including myself and many on here) have gone to - its the biggest gig venue in the NW - so draws people in from all of N.England.. Attacking kids - teenagers and younger - at the spot where parents wait to meet them afterwards will be visceral to many... Lots of bad stuff has happened in the UK over the years (and far worse in other parts of the world) - but I don't remember a reaction quite like the one this morning. Even the radio was playing only music...
Thoughts with all affected :(
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When you let your child go off to their first concert, you worry about a lot of things.
Being blown apart by some deranged believer, who thinks "God" told him to do it; should not be one of those things.
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who thinks "God" told him to do it;
Is this information that has been released at this point, or are we just guessing?
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Absolutely deplorable act.
For time I've wondered why it isn't mandatory for stadiums to have the sort of security technology that airports have. It seems to be that this - and other recent attacks - could have been entirely preventable if so and I'm enraged at the thought that this has happened. The sort of revenue that these venues make surely should mean that they take appropriate measures to defend against this sort of vile behaviour.
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I'm guessing but one reason they probably don't is that it would take forever to get everyone in.
Speaking from personal experience of going to Sheffield Arena every weekend through the winter for ice hockey, they are pretty good (annoyingly so) at checking bags. Annoying for us cos I like to take sarnies in for the kids instead of filling them with shite expensive junk food.
We don't even know at this stage whether the guy was inside and sat through the whole concert, or for example if when the doors opened to left folk leave he could have walked in unchecked from the street, which is quite possible.
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He was in the foyer.. so I suspect could just walk in through the big doors at the front just as the concert finished and everyone began to flood out.
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who thinks "God" told him to do it;
Is this information that has been released at this point, or are we just guessing?
Pure prejudice at time of writing, for which I apologise.
However (love those qualified apologies, eh? Bit like I'm not racist ,but...) they do seem to have identified the suspect somewhat quickly, suggesting to me that h was probably "known" to security services. I know the first thing they do is a head count of the "known" after such an event, it can limit the field and aid with identification . Where the perpetrator is unknown, I would have thought id. to be much harder?
This too is speculation and "known" also doesn't equate to religious motivation.
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who thinks "God" told him to do it;
Is this information that has been released at this point, or are we just guessing?
No need to apologize Oldmanmatt, news states ISIS involved.
Some horrendous stories now emerging about the children and young people caught up in this.
My heart and thoughts go out to all of them.
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However (love those qualified apologies, eh? Bit like I'm not racist ,but...) they do seem to have identified the suspect somewhat quickly, suggesting to me that h was probably "known" to security services.
He had ID on him, the time taken to to confirm it was his ID they found.
I know the first thing they do is a head count of the "known" after such an event, it can limit the field and aid with identification . Where the perpetrator is unknown, I would have thought id. to be much harder?
The most recent arrest was just down the road from me. The wife (doctor) says the hospital is pretty grim today.
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Please read guys.
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Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and more than 50 hurt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886
Thanks for posting the tweet. There's a message on PG Donor Centre line saying they don't currently need more blood.
Timely reminder to donate though.
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The most recent arrest was just down the road from me. The wife (doctor) says the hospital is pretty grim today.
The bomber was a regular at the Mosque at the end of our road :-/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-arena-attacker-named-salman-abedi-suicide-attack-ariana-grande
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So it's been a media scrum at the end of the road today. Probably 100+ journalists there for lunchtime prayers. Where we watched people going in and out to pray being chased down the road by journo's trying to get a scoop.
Spoke to a few - from Germany, Norway and Denmark. The danish pair openly admitted it was all part of the media circus... "last week Paris, this week Manchester - really we feed the problem too"...
The lowlight was a chap for the Lybian community was being interviewed by a couple of people when this fella parked up his van and started giving him a mouthful. What a dick.. but manna to the press..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wHpK2JigLKw&feature=youtu.be
Hopefully some normality will resume tomorrow.. (the sharp eyed can spot me at the end of the clip)
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Just had a look at NYTimes website.
https://www.nytimes.com (https://www.nytimes.com)
Grisly details about Manchester attack.
What the fuck is the world coming to, it's not journalism, it's trash.
Whoever leaked this wants stringing up.
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Just had a look at NYTimes website.
https://www.nytimes.com (https://www.nytimes.com)
Grisly details about Manchester attack.
What the fuck is the world coming to, it's not journalism, it's trash.
Whoever leaked this wants stringing up.
and I hear that May is going to speak to Trump about US security services leaking this stuff to the press...
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Who was your source?
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If he told you he'd have to kill you.
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So, we never watch tv news.
It came on by accident after the movie finished, at 10:30 ish.
Bloody hell!
Now watching things unfold in London. Can't look away.
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Bloody hell! Just when you think the Sun couldn't sink any lower! Impersonating the friend of a Grenfell Tower victim!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital
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Dear Editor,
It's a sunny day, here in the Bay and I'm on shift at the wall. This means I am lonely, bored and have a lot of free time.
The fire has really bugged me.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shameless-tory-council-leader-blames-10631544
I spent 25 years first maintaining, then building, then designing Ships. I designed fixed firefighting systems and fire resistant and fire proof bulkheads and partitions. I know how cheaply and simply it can be done. If our ship building standards and regulations had been set by craven politicians like this joke and his bosses, thousands would die every year. Sprinklers have been around for over one hundred years, they are cheap and easy to fit, but according to the Tories it was more important to make the block pretty from the outside, by apparently wrapping it in candle wax, wood and accelerants.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-fire-grenfell-tower-kensington-mp-emma-dent-coad-cladding-refurbishment-a7792901.html?cmpid=facebook-post
Of course, the "Experts" all told them it was dangerous and a disaster waiting to happen, but our Government have decided they have had enough of "Experts" and that public school means they know everything and the "Experts" are just being silly, should pull their socks up and stop whinging.
I say the politicians are arrogant, corrupt and should bear the brunt of responsibility for this tragedy.
If you think this is purely the "Lefty" view of the situation, I submit the Torygraph version:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/16/anger-leader-kensington-council-appears-blame-grenfell-residents/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg
And for balance:
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/tories-have-blocked-labour-legislation-to-improve-rented-homes-but-its-complicated
The last 12 months (going on 7 years, really) has pushed me further and further to the left, politically. I'm sick to death of the fucking greedy, arrogant, selfish shits running this country (that includes most of the last Labour Government, by the way) and the apparently global, lurch to the right of populist feeling.
Britain has been turned into a third world country (I can only see it getting worse); if this had happened in Bangladesh, people here would have tutted and muttered "will they never learn" (or worse, something about skin colour or foreigners) under their breath and felt superior for the rest of the day.
Yours,
Angry of Torquay
PS.
Even that massively pro-Tory BBC is struggling to cope with this one.
London fire: A tale of two tower blocks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40290158
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. I'm sick to death of the fucking greedy, arrogant, selfish shits running this country (that includes most of the last Labour Government, by the way) and the apparently global, lurch to the right of populist feeling.
I'm totally in agreement with much of your post but I'm sorry, I have to take you to task with this bit. Sure, the last Labour government could have done a lot more on social housing (like, errrr, maybe build some?!) but it did at least pump money into the system. I'm not saying they were ideal, and I'm sure we'd agree that Blair and a few others have indeed made a lot of money off their time in government. But come on, we've had a (mostly) Tory government for SEVEN YEARS. It's a mark of how ingrained and unconscious the right wing is in this country that it's common to throw some shit at the Labour Party even thought they've lost three elections, as if a Labour government was a radioactive material with a really long half life.
The Conservative governments since 2010 have sucked money out of the state, reducing spending on so many of the vital bonds that hold our society together. From protection and social insurance for the disabled and the unemployed, to the police, the NHS, local government, you don't need me to list it because you know it yourself. Cut, cut, cut, even when as you say avoiding this kind of disaster needen't be expensive. All for an economic chimera - cutting the deficit - which many, many economists say sits somewhere between unneccessary and damaging.
If we continue a blanket condemnation of "they're all as bad as each other" when no, they really really aren't, then *that* is what opens the gate to the politics of populism and paranoia.
Right, rant over and sorry Matt. It's not really directed at you in particular because "damn them all" is such a common refrain, but it obscures the good work some people try to do to stop these fuckers.
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Expenses.
That is all.
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Bugger, can't leave it at that can I.
Too many pigs at the trough, some pigs more equal than others, of course, but pigs of all stripes. A rainbow coalition of greed.
Meanwhile, the poor go hungry.
Or get a bit warm.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_parliamentary_expenses_scandal
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Expenses.
That is all.
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Bugger, can't leave it at that can I.
Too many pigs at the trough, some pigs more equal than others, of course, but pigs of all stripes. A rainbow coalition of greed.
Meanwhile, the poor go hungry.
Or get a bit warm.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_parliamentary_expenses_scandal
Yes, MPs expenses was ugly. But the costs, the actual cost to our society not in trust but in hard cash, was trivial. This disaster (and the on-going political strife in the UK) has not so much to do with expenses but about much, much bigger issues - how do we configure our state, how do we pay for it, how much we tax and how much we spend. If we're going to gripe about noses in the trough, I'd put the revolving door between state and private sector as way worse than expenses, as it can affect policy, which is a bigger deal than flipping houses even if less obviously corrupt and ugly. Complaining about the expenses scandal which was cleaned up a long time ago is of course a nice little distraction.
God, I'm starting to sound like some sort of loony Corbynite here.
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I've been unable to find out what the "with insulation " component of the cladding. The supplier, Harley, have taken down the page that detailed the construction.
http://www.harleyfacades.co.uk/page/do/page_not_found
So, if anyone knows...?
Some bits and bobs, from other digging.
https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/grenfell-tower-residents-had-predicted-massive-fire/10020757.article
http://www.studioe.co.uk/?portfolio=grenfell
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http://bcmgrc.com/general_grcinaction.pdf
Anyone know if there is a resin content in GRC? Not a material I've worked with.
Aluminium, I know...
http://www.alfed.org.uk/files/Fact%20sheets/11-aluminium-and-fire.pdf
Mildly misleading, it can burn, but I'd be surprised if the temps got that high on the exterior. It will have conducted the heat around the building though. That heat will not have magically dissipated as that booklet implies...
I'm wondering about that insulation, funny how that info has gone walkabout.
http://www.harleyfacades.co.uk/page/8031/article/727
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The cladding should not have burned, it was rated quite highly:
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If the correct, specified, material been used.
But, I've re-watched as much footage as I can, including some from ~20min after the fire service arrived and the cladding is clearly "dripping" burning material.
Sorry if this bores or offends anyone, just trying to understand out of some fading professional interest and hoping there might be someone here with better Civil Engineering knowledge.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/manufacturer-of-cladding-on-grenfell-tower-identified-as-omnis-exteriors
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Bloody EU Red Tape..
German construction companies have been banned from using plastic-filled cladding, such as Reynobond PE, on towers more than 22 metres high since the 1980s when regulations were brought in to improve fire safety at residential blocks.
But we're lucky..
In the UK there are no regulations requiring the use of fire-retardant material in cladding used on the exterior of tower blocks and schools.
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So, it wasn't the material specified by the architects, and yet they signed off on the project?
If I'd done that, I'd have gone to jail, but then, so would the Class Surveyor and the Flag Surveyor.
If that's what happened, of course...
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Hmmmm. The Times has definitely turned on May, the burn from the cartoon alone is epic. (Pun intended, though obviously in poor taste, sorry).
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Robert Peston (better than a Facebook link):
"One reason why the Grenfell tragedy has shaken so many of us is because it exposes so much of what's wrong with the way this place has been run for years.
We'll have to wait for a forensic examination of all the many decisions that turned a series of risks into an appalling catastrophe.
But although the trigger may still be unclear, it is reasonable to identify a number of underlying causes.
Part of the background is austerity that has been particularly acute for local government.
But austerity seems to have become particularly toxic in a system where responsibility for vital safety decisions is so diffuse: we have ministers in charge of regulations, councillors funding an arms length management company, and a management company placing a refurbishment contract with the cheapest bidder.
There is naturally huge anger that the government didn't ban the kind of cladding used at Grenfell, when such cladding is illegal for use on high rise structures in the US (as the Times reports today).
Similarly there is horror that the government never made it obligatory for the fire safety standards that apply to new buildings to be enforced at older blocks - that such improvements are only recommended, not obligatory.
But such lax or light touch regulation only becomes fatal in a system - such as we have - designed to drive down costs and save money, not to put the safety of people first.
It is a system in which those working for all the interconnected bodies that made the refurbishment decisions and gave the wrong safety advice to tenants are able to say - as if that makes it alright - "we followed the rules".
It is a system in which identifying anyone who can be proved to be ultimately responsible for what happened may be impossible.
And as we saw in the banks before the financial crisis, when people can take reckless decisions safe in the knowledge they can't be held to account, reckless decisions get taken.
The horrific corollary of a faceless, irresponsible system of public-housing governance is that many of the poor and vulnerable people who died in the fire are not even being given the respect of formal identification as victims - because they live on the fringes of the state, and the authorities seem unable to be confident they even existed, let alone that they have died.
There is a social contract between those of us lucky enough to have voices that are heard and those who don't that we should not put them in harms way. Grenfell seems the most grotesque breach of that contract in my lifetime. It shames us all."
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Not bored in the climbing wall like OMM, but sat in a layby near Ullswater with TTjnr snoring in the back (so MrsTT can have a bath in peace)...
It's not a fault of capitalism - or neoliberalisation - but of poor regulation and poor enforcement of regulation.
Like most of the posts above, those enforcing these (council?) become so stretched and under pressure due to cutbacks, things are ignored - passed by - seen as less important than trying to wade through a massive workload etc..
Whether this fire is the tipping point where people finally realise/rise up (in a polite British way..) will be seen.. coupled with an unpopular PM who seems to typify all that is aloof and wrong with 'the system' perhaps. But probably not..
My final ramble - I have worked on flood defence and spending. And this follows a disaster led cycle. 2000. Big floods, big enquiry - increase in spending. This is then gradually cut back. 2007. Big floods, enquiry - increase in spending then gradually pared back. 2015... you get the jist. Part of this is due to the political cycle of 4-5 years of course...
Right. Baby awake. Got to go.
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We live close by and one of our friends lives opposite the tower. She was up all night helping people and said it was like the apocalypse... Mrs FD has been down there the last three days sorting stuff out.
There's a lot of anger and frustration in the neighbourhood. Feels like what I've read and seen about Aberfan.
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We live close by and one of our friends lives opposite the tower. She was up all night helping people and said it was like the apocalypse... Mrs FD has been down there the last three days sorting stuff out.
There's a lot of anger and frustration in the neighbourhood. Feels like what I've read and seen about Aberfan.
Good on them both, and then some.
Any idea if this is accurate?
Because, if so, fuckity fuck fuck.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/my-council-tax-rebate-from-kensington-and-chelsea-is-blood-money?CMP=share_btn_tw
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We live close by and one of our friends lives opposite the tower. She was up all night helping people and said it was like the apocalypse... Mrs FD has been down there the last three days sorting stuff out.
There's a lot of anger and frustration in the neighbourhood. Feels like what I've read and seen about Aberfan.
Good on them both, and then some.
Any idea if this is accurate?
Because, if so, fuckity fuck fuck.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/my-council-tax-rebate-from-kensington-and-chelsea-is-blood-money?CMP=share_btn_tw
Rumour going around that Council sat on £300 million reserves.
The cost of slightly more expensive cladding £6,000.
Sums up the state of play at moment, cost cutting, subtracting out the sub contracts etc.
A race to the bottom, all the waffle about cutting red tape leads to this.
Falling Down, want to volunteer tomorrow, don't have a clue where to go. Does Mrs FD need a hand sorting things out (Sun18th) looked on tinternet and help I think might be needed at Kensal Community Centre.
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JFDM, if you use FB then apparently this is the group to find out where to help https://m.facebook.com/groups/386972045032265
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So, it wasn't the material specified by the architects, and yet they signed off on the project?
If I'd done that, I'd have gone to jail, but then, so would the Class Surveyor and the Flag Surveyor.
If that's what happened, of course...
I'm not sure if this applies in this particular situation, but a friend of mine is an architect and does those "student accommodation" blocks. Once the design is signed off it's passed over to the lowest bidding "design and build" contractor who then changes all the specs to the cheapest alternative they can get away with. Glasgow is full of those blocks and I'm sure they're not fit for purpose...
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JFDM, if you use FB then apparently this is the group to find out where to help https://m.facebook.com/groups/386972045032265
Thanks FD for pointing me in the right direction. In the end made it to Kensal Community Centre, lots of willing and friendly volunteers sorting through donations. I got the plumb job sorting out women's stops/trousers, now an expert!
Looks as though there is enough work to last at least another couple of days.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/8dfb76cef2c2da3d6077173aad15961a.jpg)
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Uh, what?
I have not sworn this much in some time.
Ffs.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/grenfell-tower-flammable-cladding-banned-in-uk-philip-hammond-germany-us-a7795696.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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Not surprising: Without knowing anything about UK's legal system, I simply refuse to believe it can be legal to clad a high rise building in oil. That has to be illegal pretty much on the entire planet.
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The same cladding has been used on brand new buildings here in Melbourne allegedly.
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Good to here that Sheffield have confirmed all it's council blocks use fire retardant cladding.
http://www.sheffieldnewsroom.co.uk/firesafety/
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Good to hear that Sheffield have confirmed all it's council blocks use fire retardant cladding.
http://www.sheffieldnewsroom.co.uk/firesafety/
I wouldn't be so hasty, Grenfell inspected 16 times during revamp, appears as though the only people that knew what work was actually done were the people who carried out the job.
I'd want everything triple checked before making a claim like this.
Watched this last night, Panorama
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08x1tss/panorama-london-tower-fire-britains-shame (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08x1tss/panorama-london-tower-fire-britains-shame)
Really upsetting, I was really distressed about much of what was shown, tears in eyes, unimaginable horrors, just imagining myself/family being placed in such danger.
Neglect on so many levels, no fire alarm, no sprinklers, residents had enough time to exit building but were not alerted, ladders/hoses not long enough, death trap cladding.
It is horrific to see such needless loss of life, all deaths seem very preventable.
All above issues were raised at residents meetings but not acted on by council.
The aftermath, equally neglectful, volunteers doing the job of local/central gov, army not called up to help with aftermath, residents simply fending for themselves.
Was away last week so just got bits of news, now up to speed I am equal parts angry and upset. If this was millionaires row or Hyde Park One, the outcome/aftermath would have been very different.
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That was a hard watch.
Lovely people around that area too:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-victims-rehoused-luxury-apartment-block-kensington-neighbours-response-reaction-a7801896.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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That was a hard watch.
Lovely people around that area too:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-victims-rehoused-luxury-apartment-block-kensington-neighbours-response-reaction-a7801896.html?cmpid=facebook-post
That's London living, millionaires row often backs onto Joe public house/tower block/flat. Millionaires thinking not in my backyard but then that's the prevailing view across the UK. The big thing I found though on Sunday was that the volunteers were all lovely people, generous, kind, caring. Not all Londoners are spivs and chancers.
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The cladding should not have burned, it was rated quite highly:
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If the correct, specified, material been used.
But, I've re-watched as much footage as I can, including some from ~20min after the fire service arrived and the cladding is clearly "dripping" burning material.
Sorry if this bores or offends anyone, just trying to understand out of some fading professional interest and hoping there might be someone here with better Civil Engineering knowledge.
I think GRC (glass reinforced concrete) likely refers to the concrete shell of the "main" building. So far as I can tell from the often contradictory reports, there was then a 15cm layer of PIR thermal insulation cladding that shell, an air gap, and then the composite panel rain shield.
PIR is a modified urethane polymer. It's combustible and when it burns releases a comparatively large amount of noxious smoke. But it generally needs to be in an already pretty intense fire to get burning and does not propagate fire well - forms a charr and self-extinguishes as soon as flames are removed. PIR is pretty standard for insulating commercial buildings - usually within sandwich panels - good thermal insulator and rated at being relatively fire resistant.
The rain shield is reported to have been polyethylene between aluminium sheets (i.e a sandwich panel or "Composite Insulated Panel", CIP), which seems unusual to me. Polyethylene sandwich panels have been involved on a few high profile fires in Gulf states and Australia but I personally have not come across them in UK buildings (although I admit my experience is sporadic and annecdotal).
In general, polyethylene burns well and propagates fires - ignites readily and the flames tend to be self-sustaining (do not extinguish when the flames are removed); it also produces burning droplets that can spread the fire downwards and laterally (adding enough additives might alter this). Presumably at least partly for these reasons, the sandwich panels in UK buildings I have encountered have generally contained less combustible materials, which whilst they might fuel and extant intense fire do not propagate flames very rapidly, such as polyurethane or PIR (very occassionally polyphenolic resin or rock wool).
Relatively readily combustible sandwich panel fillings are sometimes used, such as polystyrene, but I have personally only seen them in industrial installations with very little occupancy (cold stores / food factories etc). And the panels are often subject to very stringent insurance policy conditions for inspection and maintainance. And where the panel installation is near to anything hot or a potential source of ignition (production equipment, wiring, hot pipework), panels with a non-combustible filling / fire stopping materials have to be used.
Details of some of the present thinking on this matter, and the previous fires involving polyethylene sandwich panels (mainly in Dubai) are here:
http://www.probyn-miers.com/perspective/2016/02/fire-risks-from-external-cladding-panels-perspective-from-the-uk/ (http://www.probyn-miers.com/perspective/2016/02/fire-risks-from-external-cladding-panels-perspective-from-the-uk/)
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May has just said the following in the House of Commons
"I know many others living in tall residential buildings will have concerns about their safety after what happened at Grenfell.
All social landlords have been instructed to carry out additional fire safety checks on tower blocks and ensure the appropriate safety and response measures are in place.
We’ve also taken steps to make private landlords aware and make our checking facilities available to them for free.
The House should, of course, be careful on speculating what caused this fire.
But, as a precaution, the government has arranged to test cladding in all relevant tower blocks.
Shortly before I came to the chamber, I was informed that a number of these tests have come back as combustible.
The relevant local authorities and local fire services have been informed, and, as I speak, they are taking all possible steps to ensure buildings are safe and to inform affected residents."
We will find out later which blocks have the killer cladding installed, this is really terrible news, if there was an Olympic medal for the race to the bottom we would win it every time. The news is not a surprise.
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Up to 600 blocks with similar cladding to Granfell, you couldn't make it up. :no:
Truley horrific, it is beyond comprehension what has happened.
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If I lived in a tower block with suspect cladding I'd get busy ripping it off, at least from the first couple of storeys so it was out of reach of any idiots with a lighter.
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Personally I'm a bit wary of the use of the term combustible and would want to know exactly what the cladding was . Strictly everything other than rock wool is combustible but there is a significant difference between a "combustible" insulator like PIR or polyphenol, generally regarded as pretty fire resistant, and polyethylene.
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On a completely different slant but still related to Grenfell, on Sunday when I went to volunteer my twenty minute journey to Notting Hill took over an hour on the tube/bus/walk. This was because of on going investigation into the fire around Latimer Rd Station, the same is true today a week later, stations are shut in the area.
I felt last week that the powers that be were making it as difficult as possible for volunteers to actually get in and help and also for residents to actually move around.
Grenfell action group have posted the following.
"Here’s another little conundrum. According to Transport for London, following the Grenfell Tower inferno, Latimer Road Tube station has been closed on the instructions of the London Fire Brigade, and some London Underground services have been suspended ‘due to the risk of falling debris from Grenfell Tower’. The blackened shell of Grenfell Tower stands at least 50 yards from the viaduct carrying the tube line that passes by. There is no danger of debris falling from the Tower landing anywhere near that tube line.
What they are not admitting is that there may well be a risk that the weakened structure of the burnt out shell of Grenfell Tower may collapse. If it does it still seems unlikely that such a collapse would reach the tube line. It might well, however, fall on the low rise blocks that are so much closer to it and, as stated above, are still very much inhabited."
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My buddy in the MET is suggesting the later explanation, ie the possibility of collapse.
Remember there is likely a difference between what was initially advised and what TFL might have implemented. I doubt anyone is taking risks right now.
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Climbers at work looking at cladding
https://twitter.com/JamieGrierson/status/877856083657846785/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolitics%2Fblog%2Flive%2F2017%2Fjun%2F22%2Fhammond-suggests-brexit-transitional-period-could-last-up-to-four-years-politics-live (https://twitter.com/JamieGrierson/status/877856083657846785/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolitics%2Fblog%2Flive%2F2017%2Fjun%2F22%2Fhammond-suggests-brexit-transitional-period-could-last-up-to-four-years-politics-live)
Correction to one of my earlier posts - 600 blocks are/have been tested, as of ten minutes ago, 3 appear to have identical cladding to Grenfell, installed by the same contractor as Grenfell.
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Sarin Used in Syria....smells more like the whiff of shite to me...
If you read the BBC report or any other MSM report it's cut and dried - "Sarin was used"
BBC Report:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40453048
What got me doubting it was Seymour Hersh's piece published in De Welt and studiously ignored by the entire world press:
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html
But then, I lifted my tin-foil hat and had a wee head scratch. Was I putting too much faith into him because if it's Pulitzer winning background and previous scoops in Vietnam? There certainly are plenty of commentators who have picked holes in his assessment. I have my doubts.
So I dug up the actual OPCW report:
http://undocs.org/S/2017/440
This report seems to be the main source that all of the MSM are reporting, but when I read it I found some holes:
- The OPCW's inspectors never visited the site
- The analysis results do not state the level of metabolites found, the testing methodology, the minimum detectable level.
- The samples collected from "near the crater" were collected by third parties with no control
And finally, even if this can be counted as admissible evidence of Sarin, it doesn't apportion any blame.
It all stinks. Now....where's that tin foil hat....
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Environmentalist nuns:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/19/pennsylvania-nuns-oppose-fracking-gas-atlantic-sunrise-pipeline
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FFS!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/council-lemonade-stand-fine-shut-down-five-year-old-girl-150-tower-hamlets-east-london-andre-spicer-a7852376.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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So it wasn't the daughter's stand, it was the father's. No complaint over the FFS, but the indy is like Thesun for liberals these days.
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Not sure who's idea it was etc, but it would be odd for a 5 year old to be left unattended on the street...
I agree on the Indy, but it was just the last of several similar articles that I saw on this; the Beeb for instance, take a similar slant:
http://bbc.in/2tLHNJA
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When is the Sunday Times officially changing it's name to "News of the World"?
Or are they just going to go straight to "Der Sturmer"?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sunday-times-ireland-kevin-myers-article-bbc-pay-gap-women-jews-racism-sexism-twitter-a7867321.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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Murdoch Welt.
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Girl Stuck behind Lamp Post (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4743874/Girl-stuck-pole-wall-hanging-upside-video.html)
Good to see the Daily Heil doing it's usual amount of fact-checking. It's actually a live art event running as part of the Merchant City Festival, called Bodies in Urban Spaces: https://twitter.com/DavidMiller_UK/status/891692833320689665
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An accurate summary of summer 2017.
Possibly our last.
http://newsthump.com/2017/08/09/men-with-two-smallest-cocks-in-the-world-escalate-international-dick-waving-contest/
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Loving this year so far:
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Well, if it comes from the man himself; it must be ok:
https://mobile.twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/896884949634232320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoke.co.uk%2F2017%2F08%2F14%2Fcreator-godwins-law-says-ok-compare-sheads-nazis%2F
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There's no need to compare them to Nazis; they are Nazis and avowedly so.
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I'm disturbed by the reactions of some young people around me, right now. One I know is really worrying, gun obsessed, homophobic and prone to calling everyone "Snowflakes" etc.
Then :
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/14/1939-second-world-war-fascist-thundering-approach-hitler?CMP=fb_gu
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Anyone got any thoughts on the "tolerance paradox"?
(https://i.redditmedia.com/HcuZIT5w8xJLMXoISDexG1GNz5Dj7xHO_QGeueMtdPU.jpg?w=614&s=93fcd38109cc94fdc092b669ae6e76e5)
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I like it!
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Sadly very true
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Breaking news just in!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41099810
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Jesus, he has some bad luck!
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The caledonian Paul B.
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From a friend and fellow Southern Ocean veteran...
Today, put in perspective. I love the annotation (bit big, but needs to be):
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I looked again at the map I posted above, and something occurred to me; so I did a little checking:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/149cb71e8ad28b1636e5c07d0b074a64.jpg)
Then looked at how big Irma is:
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Can you imagine it hitting here? With the best part of 68M people in the way?
Shit.
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size of the storms in the southern ocean is vastly exaggerated on your first map due to the projection
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size of the storms in the southern ocean is vastly exaggerated on your first map due to the projection
True, to a point.
But, you can mentally scale it like this. The distance from Spain to the East coast of the US is ~4100 mi. The dist from Cape Town to Antarctica is ~4300mi, so whilst the projection accentuates the size difference, it's still pretty massive.
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Here, I would say the "Storm" could be considered to extend to at least the 988 isobar. Giving two of the storms diameters over 2000mi plus to Irma's ~700 ish.
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All pales to typhoon Tip... (which was in the pacific.. but put here for comparison..)
(https://www.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/earths-strongest-most-massive-storm-ever_3.jpg)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earths-strongest-most-massive-storm-ever/
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Terrible news about the hurricanes. It is really sad to see all the devastation.
Some good news closer to home, for West Londoners. Roll on 2018 the new Arch wall - gala bingo[emoji851] style. 20k sq feet of climbing space, epic! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/8a728b07d7cf954f1f2314f5c32f9576.jpg)
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Terrible news about the hurricanes. It is really sad to see all the devastation.
Some good news closer to home, for West Londoners. Roll on 2018 the new Arch wall - gala bingo[emoji851] style. 20k sq feet of climbing space, epic!
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This is 15 mins walk from my flat!
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Some days, I find my atheism a challenge.
It's just so hard to have no faith and to keep believing that things like this have happened for no particular reason, when it seems so right.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/irma-milo-yiannopoulos-miami-home-destroy-hurricane-alt-right-a7940521.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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Todays Master class will be:
"How to report bad news, as good news, despite telling everyone how great a weak pound is for exports, repeatedly, for months."
What a pretty red box. 10/10 for presentation.
Questions will not be tolerated.
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I've just been listening to a wonderful episode of Radio 5 Live (Afternoon Edition) in which Arun Gandhi talks about his new book "The Gift of Anger". Interesting thoughts on the distinction between tolerance and respect too. I'm sure this will be available on iPlayer. This was a complete gift to be able to hear. http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Gift-of-Anger/Arun-Gandhi/9781476754857
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Terrible news about the hurricanes. It is really sad to see all the devastation.
Some good news closer to home, for West Londoners. Roll on 2018 the new Arch wall - gala bingo[emoji851] style. 20k sq feet of climbing space, epic!
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Yes finally some good news! This is 8 min cycle from my house, I pretty much go past it on the way to the Westway which is 3 times further. Hopefully they will do the early open like the other Arch buildings.
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Apparently only a minority of Catalans want to secede. With heavy handed tactics like this, I wonder if Rajoy will change that.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/01/dozens-injured-as-riot-police-storm-catalan-ref-polling-stations
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Boris is an idiot. Not news, just confirmation.
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Nothing has changed, nothing has changed, I’m still doing a shit job. Cough, cough...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yB9pN0H7saA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yB9pN0H7saA)
As the country slowly disintegrates so apparently does the set.
She is toast.... cough,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WIP78Z-PA58 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WIP78Z-PA58)
She can’t even slurp her water with any class.
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On that note, let's take a moment to imagine what sort of outrage we might see if people picked up on JC for coughing during a speech or drinking water incorrectly.
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On that note, let's take a moment to imagine what sort of outrage we might see if people picked up on JC for coughing during a speech or drinking water incorrectly.
It was her bacon sarnie moment.
Priceless, the gift that simply keeps on giving.
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On that note, let's take a moment to imagine what sort of outrage we might see if people picked up on JC for coughing during a speech or drinking water incorrectly.
You forgot the set falling down.
It is all rather poetic, though; karmic and all that stuff.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5054651/Patel-admits-met-Israeli-PM-family-holiday.html#comments (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5054651/Patel-admits-met-Israeli-PM-family-holiday.html#comments)
Jesus we are scrapping the bottom of the barrel with the Cons.
Priti thinks it is ok to direct uk foreign policy herself, without the knowledge of the PM.
She stated last week it was ok to meet some key players in Israeli as she was on holiday.
Turns out on her 12 day holiday she had 12 meetings with key players including Benjamin Netanyahu! What about the beach/ice creams, no time for that.
It is a fucking disgrace, the Middle East is a tinder box.
No probs for her, she can freelance it on her hols, next destination N Korea at Christmas.
For clarity
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-international-development-secretary-priti-patel (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-international-development-secretary-priti-patel)
Priti we mustn’t forget was one of the key players in the Brexit.
Surprise, sur fucking surprise.
The country is a shambles at the moment.
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It may well be a shambles later too. Just sayin’...
Although this might be better in the EU thread, you may find this (and the next 35 teeets) of interest:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jonlis1/status/927551446186450944
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I remember suddenly waking up to how frickin awful the world was, sometime around ‘82 or ‘83.
I’d grown up living six miles from the end of the largest runway outside of the US, reserve landing for the shuttle, NATO North Atlantic command bunker and home to Britains largest Squadron of Nuclear bombers.
As a boy, I thought the deafening, sky blackening, apocalyptic cacophony of twenty Vulcan bombers, five abreast and still low enough to read their markings; was comforting. A simbol of our power and invulnerability. No one would dare face that!
But, then I watched a TV drama, it was called “Threads” I think. I sought out other similar stories, like “When the wind blows”, “The day after” etc. I looked things up and plotted blast radiuses on the map on my bedroom wall. Thought about prevailing winds.
I felt pretty damn awful for a while, and could see no way that the future could be anything other than terrible.
I feel like that again.
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It may well be a shambles later too. Just sayin’...
Although this might be better in the EU thread, you may find this (and the next 35 teeets) of interest:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jonlis1/status/927551446186450944
Storified these....The Mood in Brussels on Brexshit (https://storify.com/enilkcals/the-mood-in-brussels-on-brexshit)
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They need to keep digging here, where there's smoke there must be a fire.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/07/priti-patel-wanted-to-send-aid-money-to-israeli-army-no-10-confirms (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/07/priti-patel-wanted-to-send-aid-money-to-israeli-army-no-10-confirms)
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Given this, apparently, mystifying incompetence (which I doubt actually exists); what’s the consenus on the possibility that the Gov (TM) is trying to engineer negotiation failure? Possibly with a view to a last minute slamming on of brakes and ditching the whole A50, with a “Bloody unreasonable EU would have killed us! We tried!” excuse ready in the bag?
Yes Pete, I get that this is pure speculation, thats what I’m asking for.
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Sorry Matt, cock-up over conspiracy, every time.
Your elected representatives are that inept, this is an exceptionally weak administration. Which brings no deal and WTO rules right into the frame.
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Part of me is quite enjoying the news today, in a “watch the world burn” sort of way.
One former Employer hiding in a toilet:
https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2017/11/06/tory-peer-ignores-tax-avoidance-questions-best-doorstep-ever/ (https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2017/11/06/tory-peer-ignores-tax-avoidance-questions-best-doorstep-ever/)
And another banged up (Turki, and that sod was six months late paying me when I was caring for my wife, so I’m actually pleased on that one):
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-purge-royal-family-middle-east-power-mohammed-bin-salman-liberal-reform-a8042186.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-purge-royal-family-middle-east-power-mohammed-bin-salman-liberal-reform-a8042186.html)
It’s an ill wind and all that.
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🤔
https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalislam/status/928002263049744385 (https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalislam/status/928002263049744385)
I still tend towards conspiracy. Pass me the tin foil.
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Conspiracy to hide one's incompetence, aye.
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Pissing in the wind, perhaps, but I’m tired of this Bozo (T)rumping around the world demolishing our future relationships.
So, in a first for me, I actually signed a petition.
Enough is enough, this crew should go and Johnson and Patel first.
https://www.change.org/p/12723253/u/21941980?utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_campaign=178646&sfmc_tk=Kz7hbHwjxyA5%2fM7NrlV0z0QNJzmbOnhAmKNe6iV47vYh0kFU9wqMU97kdFJRGwt8&j=178646&sfmc_sub=254462253&l=32_HTML&u=33245473&mid=7259882&jb=68 (https://www.change.org/p/12723253/u/21941980?utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_campaign=178646&sfmc_tk=Kz7hbHwjxyA5%2fM7NrlV0z0QNJzmbOnhAmKNe6iV47vYh0kFU9wqMU97kdFJRGwt8&j=178646&sfmc_sub=254462253&l=32_HTML&u=33245473&mid=7259882&jb=68)
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Apparently yesterday you could get on at 5/1 for Priti Patel to be next cabinet minister to leave. That is a bet I regret not putting on.
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Oh dear, a sacking it will be :)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live)
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:popcorn:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2017/11/22000-people-are-currently-tracking-priti-patel-s-flight-home (https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2017/11/22000-people-are-currently-tracking-priti-patel-s-flight-home)
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I rather enjoy the ramblings of James Fell, be they fitness or politically slanted. A skeptic Kanuck with a colourful turn of phrase. Worth five minutes:
http://www.bodyforwife.com/a-trump-too-far-why-we-might-not-all-die-in-a-nuclear-holocaust/ (http://www.bodyforwife.com/a-trump-too-far-why-we-might-not-all-die-in-a-nuclear-holocaust/)
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Classy pilot action. Best of it was the plane he used was called a Growler.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/42032629
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And so this morning I woke up to an incompetent, racist Italy.
Bloody hell.
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Condolences
I never thought I'd ever say something good about Berlusconi, but at least he only enriched himself and his cronies to the detriment of the rest of the country.
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And so this morning I woke up to an incompetent, racist Italy.
Bloody hell.
Welcome to the club.
Now you have to have a referendum for Italixit.
(You need a couple of beers to say that).
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:( Any advance on UK, US, Poland, Hungary, Austria, and Italy?
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Now you have to have a referendum for Italixit.
Luckily we have a very well written Constitution, that explicitly forbids referendums for international treaties matters.
Phew!
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I made comment about this in the referendum thread Lore. Is it as bad as it sounds? Can a coalition of similarly leaning parties be formed?
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Ahahaha you must be kidding! No one knows anything at the moment!
The M5S is the first party now, but it's formally on its own and doesn't have the required majority.
The right wing coalition is the first coalition, has slightly more votes than M5S but not the required majority.
The left wing basically disappeared from Italian politics due to the foolish behaviour of its (ex) leader Renzi (what an idiot).
M5S attracted lots of votes from ex left wing voters disappointed by PD politics. It should be logical to form a coalition with the left area of the PD, which split from PD due to Renzi.
Problem is, M5S have strong right hand behaviours. On the immigration matter, they basically are in line with the right wing. And not only on this matter.
So I can't really tell what's going to happen, except that it won't be good.
An M5S government will be a failure of enormous proportions, because they don't have a clue. Their leader, before turining to politics, used to sell drinks at football matches.
The only good thing to do would be to form a "technical government" with the specific and only aim to promote the new electoral law.
Because, just in case you didn't know, we voted our latest few Parliaments with an unconstitutional system, and this new one, that debuted last weekend, keeps all the unconstitutional traits of the previous one.
Basically, our Parliament is unconstitutionally elected.
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Same as UK then!
We'd offer you asylum here, but TBH it's not much better.
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Same as UK then!
We'd offer you asylum here, but TBH it's not much better.
Come anyway.
We have the best rain!
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We'd offer you asylum here, but TBH it's not much better.
Oh it is. You have The School Room, Stanage and The Tor.
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We'd offer you asylum here, but TBH it's not much better.
Oh it is. You have The School Room, Stanage and The Tor.
And unless there is full Welsh independence (fuck anythings possible I guess...) - the Cave...
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(https://i.ibb.co/VmB7gKj/4896-ED7-B-E63-B-479-E-BF4-D-7380944-A6-E41.jpg)
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fairytale-of-new-york-lyrics-the-pogues-faggot-censor-eoghan-mcdermott-the-tab-christmas-song-a8671161.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fairytale-of-new-york-lyrics-the-pogues-faggot-censor-eoghan-mcdermott-the-tab-christmas-song-a8671161.html)
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Jesus. Context is apparently dead, together with empathy and basic reading ability. Basically every word of that verse apart from "maggot" is offensive and not something a decent human says. That's kind-of the point, as any grade 6 reader should be able to notice.
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Matteo Salvini, miserable man, shakes hands with a friend, former convicted drug dealer and killer Luca Lucci.
May they die 1000 times.
https://left.it/2018/12/18/chi-ha-abbracciato-salvini/?fbclid=IwAR04Ns-xvfsNFIUPfUkLQH-YPZr6xOBjtXlJed13toygXT94TCh4M3j6QMI (https://left.it/2018/12/18/chi-ha-abbracciato-salvini/?fbclid=IwAR04Ns-xvfsNFIUPfUkLQH-YPZr6xOBjtXlJed13toygXT94TCh4M3j6QMI)
Sorry I can't find any articles on this in English.
Please share.
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I've been thinking about the Tory leadership election and I'm struggling to think of reasons why Boris might be at the top of the polls. Is there robust polling data of the Conservative membership that shows this is the case?
Putting aside that I would generally disagree with them on policy, my perception of Tory members is that they are probably: middle to pensionable age, white, comfortably off, probably have a background in business or one of the professions, pragmatic, politically engaged, eurosceptic but concerned about their pensions and investments, and socially conservative. They are, by definition, conservative. So why would they take a risk on Boris who plays up his bumbling oaf persona to give himself celebrity. Surely the membership I've described would elect Gove who comes across as altogether more serious and has a reputation within the party for being an intellectual force-to-be-reckoned-with. Or, if they're worried about Brexit, Raab who seems to be taking the hardest line on it?
Answers such as "OMG!!1 Toriez r evil innit" or "they're all thick as pig shit" are just simplistic comfort blankets and need not be posted.
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Only yougov, but how much off can they actually be?
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/06/17/three-quarters-conservative-party-members-think-bo
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The fact that Stewart, the only one not selling out and out lies, is seen by Tories as a bad leader says it all.
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Actually watched an interview with some senior local branch types (one was something like “Chairman of the local associations committee” or similar) and frankly the three, retiree, white, males (on their way to a dinner with some of the candidates and expecting top table seats) were firmly in the “swivel eyed loon” camp. They all thought Boris was a top chap, one went into some rambling analogy about “picking the cricket club captain” based on his gusto, not his sensitivity to peoples feelings (in response to a question about Boris’ many racist gaffes).
(iirc, my eye rolling reached a distracting level half way through).
Then, I’ve mentioned before, I’ve worked for a few senior Tories and one “Grandee” and they were, completely, (if not quite evil) without empathy in any recognisable form.
(I know, I bang on about it, but I reeeaaallly want to get that point over. They don’t give a shit about you, me, the country, flag or the ‘Effing Queen, only their personal enrichment).
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Average age of a conservative member in 2017 was 71.
This article illustrates that it is hard to establish the age - but puts it at present as between 65-75.
https://www.bowgroup.org/policy/statement-average-age-and-analysis-conservative-party-membership-2019
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I think it's simply that Boris represents/is a symbol for
the good old British Establishment".
That is what gives voters some sense of comfort - "leadership" is about passing down good old British standards, and recognising that they can't be challenged.
Conservatism and "leadership" for many simply means being too afraid of life to take a second look at it.
No one believes they're prejudiced, only justified, and they see in Boris, someone who is more likely to echo their views.
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The ONLY reason Boris is going to get the blessing of Tory MP’s* is that they are fucking shit scared of Corbyn winning. They see Boris as the only candidate who can out Farage Farage and bring back those brexit party voters...
Yet just about remaining palatable enough to centrist Tory voters (when compared to corbyn).
*aside from the swivel headed f@&£ nuggets of the ERG.
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Average age of a conservative member in 2017 was 71.
This article illustrates that it is hard to establish the age - but puts it at present as between 65-75.
https://www.bowgroup.org/policy/statement-average-age-and-analysis-conservative-party-membership-2019
I would be very wary of taking anything from a think tank at face value.
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Average age of a conservative member in 2017 was 71.
This article illustrates that it is hard to establish the age - but puts it at present as between 65-75.
https://www.bowgroup.org/policy/statement-average-age-and-analysis-conservative-party-membership-2019
I would be very wary of taking anything from a think tank at face value.
Indeed - hence linking to the source rather than several news stories that used it...
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So, speaking with a friend about this, he offered a suggestion that makes a lot of sense.
The biggest threat that party loyalists now see is the Brexit party which some think may get into a coalition at the next GE or even become the party of government or the official opposition. Boris' principle talent is that he connects with and is liked by people (maybe not you and me, but to Joe and Josephine Bloggs), thus he may be the person to out-Farage Farage himself and keep him out of number 10.
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So, speaking with a friend about this, he offered a suggestion that makes a lot of sense.
The biggest threat that party loyalists now see is the Brexit party which some think may get into a coalition at the next GE or even become the party of government or the official opposition. Boris' principle talent is that he connects with and is liked by people (maybe not you and me, but to Joe and Josephine Bloggs), thus he may be the person to out-Farage Farage himself and keep him out of number 10.
Ffs... there must be an echo in here...
The ONLY reason Boris is going to get the blessing of Tory MP’s* is that they are fucking shit scared of Corbyn winning. They see Boris as the only candidate who can out Farage Farage and bring back those brexit party voters...
Yet just about remaining palatable enough to centrist Tory voters (when compared to corbyn).
*aside from the swivel headed f@&£ nuggets of the ERG.
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FFS! :lol:
You'll have to take it as a compliment that I obviously read your post and liked it so much that I immediately forgot that you'd said it and adopted it as my own original thought.
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Nice comedy commentary in the Grauniad
Which is more than Jeremy Hunt has going for him. There’s even less to the foreign secretary than meets the eye. Now he was little more than Barbie’s friend Ken, still dressed in the BA airline cabin steward uniform with optional union jack lapel badge
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/17/more-silence-from-boris-after-rivals-plain-talking-hits-the-buffers
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We have reached Peak Alabama.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/18/alabama-man-accused-of-feeding-caged-attack-squirrel-meth
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We have reached Peak Alabama.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/18/alabama-man-accused-of-feeding-caged-attack-squirrel-meth
That still makes more sense than Boris becoming PM.
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We have reached Peak Alabama.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/18/alabama-man-accused-of-feeding-caged-attack-squirrel-meth
That still makes more sense than Boris becoming PM.
True, very true.
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Christ this Tory leaders debate is gruesome listening/watching.... Its like a brexit dick waving competition - and Rory.
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I can’t believe you’re actually watching it, that’s some serious self flagellation!
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Christ this Tory leaders debate is gruesome listening/watching.... Its like a brexit dick waving competition - and Rory.
Credit to Emily, she called Boris out
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I can’t believe you’re actually watching it, that’s some serious self flagellation!
Like watching a really bad horror film. So bad I had to watch.
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https://twitter.com/mockeree/status/1140977687462404097?s=12
:2thumbsup:
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Dynamite.
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https://www.facebook.com/260212261199/posts/10156462772321200?sfns=mo (https://www.facebook.com/260212261199/posts/10156462772321200?sfns=mo)
Farcebuck link, but not on Youtube yet.
Fair summary.
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BBC News - Boris Johnson: Police 'called to Tory leadership contender's home'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211
A passing story? Or the gaffe that sinks him? Not really the sort of thing you want to hear about the man who'll probably be in charge of the nukes is it?
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The Guardian reckon they heard an audio recording of the fight/argument from the neighbor..
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BBC News - Boris Johnson: Police 'called to Tory leadership contender's home'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211
A passing story? Or the gaffe that sinks him? Not really the sort of thing you want to hear about the man who'll probably be in charge of the nukes is it?
Its not going to make one single ounce of difference.
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I'm now quite keen on Boris getting in tbh. I'm not sure Hunt will be any better or worse but he might be inoffensive enough to prolong his tenure. Whereas Boris will polarise matters, he will surely lose the DUP if he hasn't already, there will be a vote of no confidence and his premiership will be the shortest in history.
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Disagree. Boris will see the parliamentary maths and go to the country in September/early October on the platform that the only way to leave is to give him a mandate at GE.
What happens then is anybody’s guess, but mine is it’ll be inconclusive and chaotic.
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Disagree. Boris will see the parliamentary maths and go to the country in September/early October on the platform that the only way to leave is to give him a mandate at GE.
What happens then is anybody’s guess, but mine is it’ll be inconclusive and chaotic.
I agree. I have a nasty feeling that Boris will do a pact with the Brexit party and go for an election. I'm not exactly overjoyed about Hunt but at least he is clearly competent. Johnson is profoundly unpleasant in my opinion, never more than a rich incompetent journalist from a powerful political family.
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Disagree. Boris will see the parliamentary maths and go to the country in September/early October on the platform that the only way to leave is to give him a mandate at GE.
This appears to be based on the assumption that Johnson's goal is to leave.
But for Johnson, backing the leave campaign was always a tool to further his own political ambitions. He supported the EU until he thought supporting leave could get him the PM's job.
You can never say never with such an unpredictable politician but I do not expect him to do anything to try and bring forward an election. With the tories losing so heavily in the local and European elections, why would he jeopardise his position as PM in an election which, at best, may return the tories to government in a coalition? I think he is more likely to abandon brexit altogether than he is to call an early election. As he showed in London, he is quite happy to campaign for one thing, then do the exact opposite after the election.
What happens then is anybody’s guess, but mine is it’ll be inconclusive and chaotic.
That's the one thing we can probably guarantee.
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My tuppence...
EU will not give us a further extension unless there is another ref or a GE.
Parliament will not allow no deal.
Tories want to avoid a GE at all costs....
Working out the path of least resistance between these three contradictory positions means (I think) either a
1. GE with Brexit party Tory co-allition with farage given some role 🤮 like Toby’s idea and as also suggested by Sarah’s wolloston (I think)
2. Johnson somehow works some of his ‘magic’ to persuade the ERG etc.. that we need another ref
Both of these are firmly in the kicking the can down the road category....
My other tuppences are....
1. I think this is a zero game for the Tories. They loose whatever happens... hard brexit and they won’t be forgiven for generations. Brexit party alliance and their central remainish wing will flee.
2. The same for Labour but not so bad - they risk being split even more - but they won’t ‘own’ the mess unlike the Tories.l
It’s a sad reflection of how far this has gone - that I caught myself almost wishing Boris had been made leader 2.5 years ago - as we’d probably have found out how shit he was and come to a polarised (as Jb put it) solution of some sort rather than endless May based dithering. I realise how fucked up this thinking is but that partly reflects what a mess it all is!
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This appears to be based on the assumption that Johnson's goal is to leave.
But for Johnson, backing the leave campaign was always a tool to further his own political ambitions. He supported the EU until he thought supporting leave could get him the PM's job
I agree with much of your reasoning but not with this.
Boris will take any position as a vehicle to get the top job- agreed.
For all his character failings he is an astute politician who knows that the ‘Europe issue’ has done for pretty much every Tory premier since Heath. He will be trapped, just like May was, in promising unicorns to the ultras who will bring him down sooner rather than later if he doesn’t deliver.
He’d no doubt do any number of u turns to secure his position but will be brought down by his own right if he doesn’t stick to the Brexit cause.
This is why he will call a GE.
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My tuppence...
1. I think this is a zero game for the Tories. They loose whatever happens... hard brexit and they won’t be forgiven for generations. Brexit party alliance and their central remainish wing will flee.
I think the Tories are increasingly morphing into a vehicle for English Nationalism so the remainer wing is becoming more of a rump.
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My tuppence...
1. I think this is a zero game for the Tories. They loose whatever happens... hard brexit and they won’t be forgiven for generations. Brexit party alliance and their central remainish wing will flee.
I think the Tories are increasingly morphing into a vehicle for English Nationalism so the remainer wing is becoming more of a rump.
This.
They are abandoning any pretence of civility or decorum and embracing their Bullingdon Boy core. It’s not really nationalist, it’s pure elitism.
Just look at the justification offered by so many for the actions of Field and the Torygraph piece about how “these aren’t real protestors” etc (implying they hold less rights etc).
For the first time ever, and despite really disliking Corbyn, I will vote Labour, if a GE is called.
I switched from Tory to LibDem in 2008, that’s how far the current climate has shifted my compass.
I never expected truth or honesty from politics or politicians, but the sheer brutality of the “Austerity” and the awful, cocky, disgusting, spoilt public schoolboy, misogyny and xenophobia of the current Tory party, turns my stomach.
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According to YouGov, Boris is the most popular politician in the UK (https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians-political-figures/all).
Corbyn manages to come in at third (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Jeremy_Corbyn), but only because of his support from millennials who don't vote anyway.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see BoJo do very well out of a general election.
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According to YouGov, Boris is the most popular politician in the UK (https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians-political-figures/all).
Corbyn manages to come in at third (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Jeremy_Corbyn), but only because of his support from millennials who don't vote anyway.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see BoJo do very well out of a general election.
There has to be something off there?
May is the second most popular, too, but hardly shone in the last GE, so...
In reality, they seem to be much of a much in popularity and I don’t think you can assume May’s supporters will automatically switch to Johnson. We already saw a large defection to LD in Euro and local elections (aside from the BP defectors). So, I cannot envision him as some unifying messiah to save the Tories. The left, always split into separate parties of moderates and (more) extremist (LD and Lab) are finally facing a divided Right. Essentially, the divided “liberal” vote keeps us under minority rule of the Right.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-no-deal-tory-vote-down-pm-leader-grieve-a8970066.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561202991 (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-no-deal-tory-vote-down-pm-leader-grieve-a8970066.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561202991)
Loving the fact that “some Labour” MP’s are pretty sure Corbyn will not go through with his threat, again. That bloke is a total wet tissue.
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They are abandoning any pretence of civility or decorum and embracing their Bullingdon Boy core. It’s not really nationalist, it’s pure elitism.
You are looking at the MPs. Look at the membership, it's increasingly nationalist. I suspect the Union is not going to survive in its current form.
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According to YouGov, Boris is the most popular politician in the UK (https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians-political-figures/all).
Corbyn manages to come in at third (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Jeremy_Corbyn), but only because of his support from millennials who don't vote anyway.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see BoJo do very well out of a general election.
There has to be something off there?
May is the second most popular, too, but hardly shone in the last GE, so...
In reality, they seem to be much of a much in popularity and I don’t think you can assume May’s supporters will automatically switch to Johnson. We already saw a large defection to LD in Euro and local elections (aside from the BP defectors). So, I cannot envision him as some unifying messiah to save the Tories. The left, always split into separate parties of moderates and (more) extremist (LD and Lab) are finally facing a divided Right. Essentially, the divided “liberal” vote keeps us under minority rule of the Right.
A 4 percentage points difference is potentially pretty significant. Especially when looking into the demographic split. Their polls also show that May is most popular among those aged 55 and over - Boris is much more popular among 35-55 year old voters than May.
You don't need to see him as a unifying messiah, just as someone who has huge support among Conservatives and Brexit Party supporters (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/06/17/three-quarters-conservative-party-members-think-bo), and as someone who was able to win two consecutive London Mayoral elections (wonder when we'll next see a Tory do that?).
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[For the first time ever, and despite really disliking Corbyn, I will vote Labour, if a GE is called.
I switched from Tory to LibDem in 2008, that’s how far the current climate has shifted my compass.
I never expected truth or honesty from politics or politicians, but the sheer brutality of the “Austerity” and the awful, cocky, disgusting, spoilt public schoolboy, misogyny and xenophobia of the current Tory party, turns my stomach.
I see an equivalent vein of elitism in Corbyns cadre in the Labour party though Matt, the promotion of total incompetence (Abbott), Stalinist tendencies (Milne , Murray), the routine casual antisemitism (many), appalling foreign policy leanings (Columbia, Russia, Iran...) I could go on... I honestly feel that the only vaguely ethical choice is liberal democrat, green or independent. This is not only because I think we should be in the EU, I'd happily vote for a conservative or labour party if they weren't both currently steered by cockwombles.
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Speaking as a lifelong Tory and optimistic Leave voter (based on the naive idea the negotiations would be sensible with give and take on both sides, repented of as soon as the Irish border raised its head), the Tory party in its current form is dead to me.
Mind you, so is the labour party with Corbyn and his cadre in charge for most of the reasons Toby lists.
Do the lib dems have any policies other than no Brexit? (I voted lib dem in the euro elections)
Electorally the Tories seem to be in a no win situation, they can face annihilation if they don't neutralise Farage, or they can face fractionally less complete annihilation when the one nation 'wet' side of the party like myself walks away in disgust. They only have themselves to blame.
I think BoJo has missed his time and is 3 years past his best now, he's not the bumbling buffoon from HIGNFY anymore, he's the idiot who's thoughtlessness kept Mrs Zaghani Ratcliffe in an Iranian jail who refuses to accept any responsibility for what he said. He'll play well enough with the Tory membership that he'll become PM, but not for very long. And than we can have a GE and watch the horse trading to build a coalition begin (and prove we are really as European as Germany or Italy or Spain or Belgium...)
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Nevertheless, Labour currently appear the lesser of two evils.
It is as though the Cons have said to themselves “No Deal Brexit is the dream of a Buffoon, therefore we must engage the greatest Buffoon the nation has ever know, to lead us to La La Land, upon his Unicorn steed, to battle cries of casual Misogyny, Racism and Xenophobia”.
The dream of grey old men and pearl clutching, twin set clad, perm adorned, old women.
The dream of finally being able to say all those things they’ve suppressed for so long, to tell everyone not them, how wrong they are to not be them. To revel in their own superiority.
This I feel is a worse future than the risk of a little light socialism, tempered by democratic process.
I’d rather see a LD Government, one of moderation, compromise and pragmatism. To see the ideology of both Right and Left consigned to the compost heap of history.
It’s unlikely.
Humans don’t work that way.
We overreact.
Babies get thrown out with the water of every bath we run and every little set back is entirely the fault of the other team.
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Nevertheless, Labour currently appear the lesser of two evils.
I’d rather see a LD Government, one of moderation, compromise and pragmatism. To see the ideology of both Right and Left consigned to the compost heap of history.
I struggle with your first sentence. Jeremy Corbyn who wants Brexit and all his votes show he's wanted it since the 70's but in all this 3 years of debate hasn't had the nerve or principles to say it out loud. Jeremy Corbyn and his mates promulgating the idea "Intolerance is bad, let's all be nice. Unless it's people we don't like, in which case fill your boots and there'll be no come back". No, there's a mean, nasty, spineless bullying streak in the top of the labour party and i don't want that anywhere near government. Both the conservatives and labour are as bad as each other in my book at the moment.
The moderation, comprise and pragmatism i am right with!
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I think Corbyn is more accountable to the membership of the LP than the Tory leader is to their (far smaller and less diverse membership).
Jezzface may want a brexit - but it’s a soft brexit and tbh if Labour get in it won’t be on a brexit ticket.
The math don’t add up. 45-48% of the electorate voted leave - and they would be split between Tory, Brexit party and Labour. The now slightly larger remain contingent would be SNP, LibDem and Green.
Which group (leave or remain) would Labour get most votes from? It’s a no brainier.
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Chris, how likely do you perceive the chances of a balanced government? Or of a coalition of Centre and Left, that could outlast it’s own initial announcement press conference?
Or that any party, not offering magic bullets and panacea, will win over the electorate at large?
Because I cannot see it. Hence feeling compelled to choose between two unpalatable extremes. The product of the current arms race, to present ever more polarised and contrary policies, with scant regard for reality. An arms race that has driven both extremes into almost identical shades of night and left us nought but the hope of grasping the least glimmer of light.
At least (Brexit being all but inevitable now), a Labour Government may provide some relief to those who have suffered under the awful spectre of Tory “Austerity” (which was only applicable to the poor and vulnerable, whilst encompassing the most stunning increase in wealth at the other end of the population).
Corbyn might be a price worth paying to see that end. Probably not the scalding hot shower and Dettol scrub the country needs and more than likely a whole new set of crap, but better than an Etonian circle jerk of elitist fuckwits.
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A balanced government, there's not a chance, is there, not without the rainbows and unicorns fantasy of moderate Tory and Labour MPs discovering their principles and abandoning their respective leaders (& committing career suicide in the process). I had so much hope for the independent group and then they went and royally fucked it up with their egos and believing presentation was more important than having a product to sell. A coalition, it'll be ugly on either side, Conservative - Brexit - DUP anyone? Or Labour - SNP - Plaid - Sinn Fein? I forget who's said they won't go into a coalition with who so far... With the first Scotland will be fighting for another referendum, with the second they'll be in government so it will be handed to them on a plate and northern Ireland will probably be given away as Sinn Fein's price.
I still blame Twitter and social media in general for the lows political debate has sunk to. Put across a balanced argument in 150 characters... No wonder all we get offered is unicorns and fairy tales.
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Trite, possibly.
But, I think a succinct summation within the 150 character format:
(https://i.ibb.co/mzyN1cT/5-C96-FC67-E6-FD-4-EC7-9787-AB406-B2-B1-D4-F.jpg)
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I have just read a long form version of the above tweet (well, not exactly, but of a theme).
A very interesting deconstruction of the Tory party, by a Tory.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-no-deal-brexit-jeremy-hunt-boris-johnson-membership-voters-a8970281.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561280830 (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-no-deal-brexit-jeremy-hunt-boris-johnson-membership-voters-a8970281.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561280830)
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It's frightening isn't it. I've read a couple of similar things recently from different sources. Once the Tory party's purpose was to be the unpopular grown up and clean up the labour party's financial mess after they'd been in government and now the membership's happy to break the union and damage the economy... :wall:
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A balanced government, there's not a chance, is there, not without the rainbows and unicorns fantasy of moderate Tory and Labour MPs discovering their principles and abandoning their respective leaders (& committing career suicide in the process). I had so much hope for the independent group and then they went and royally fucked it up with their egos and believing presentation was more important than having a product to sell. A coalition, it'll be ugly on either side, Conservative - Brexit - DUP anyone? Or Labour - SNP - Plaid - Sinn Fein? I forget who's said they won't go into a coalition with who so far... With the first Scotland will be fighting for another referendum, with the second they'll be in government so it will be handed to them on a plate and northern Ireland will probably be given away as Sinn Fein's price.
Sinn Fein don't take their seats in parliament, they won't be part of any coalition.
I think there is a chance Scotland leaves if the UK remains and we end up with a left leaning coalition. If we leave and end up with a right leaning coalition, I think the chance of Scotland leaving increases massively.
I'm sure the Conservatives will come to some arrangement with the DUP if that is the only way to make a majority but I'm sure they'll think twice about it given the DUP's failure to support the Conservative position on brexit.
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Trite, possibly.
But, I think a succinct summation within the 150 character format:
(https://i.ibb.co/mzyN1cT/5-C96-FC67-E6-FD-4-EC7-9787-AB406-B2-B1-D4-F.jpg)
Totally disagree. Hunt was far from a poor health secretary, he inherited Lansleys poorly thought out reforms, but he managed to vastly improve patient safety. The reasons that the NHS is creaking have little to do with any health secretary, austerity or any government policy. Johnson was by all accounts totally incompetent as a foreign secretary however.
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Matt your characterisation of the Conservative membership may have a grain of two of truth about it, but I agree with Chris that there is a very nasty streak in the upper ranks of the labour party. I'm not so sure they want a soft Brexit at all, I suspect that they'd really like a no deal Brexit, curated by the conservative government, followed by an election where they could propound regressive Marxist economics as a cure for the catastrophe the UK would be mired in. There is an unpleasant reek of some being more equal than others about Corbyns clique.
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https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-08-21 (https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-08-21)
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Once the Tory party's purpose was to be the unpopular grown up and clean up the labour party's financial mess after they'd been in government
Here's an alternative view of that:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/18/labour-economic-crisis-tories
And one more, from a different source:
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/14006/economics/can-labour-be-blamed-for-the-economic-crisis/
If we had known that the financial crisis was about to happen then we could argue that Labour should have delayed some of the pre-crisis spending to help in buffering the impact of the recession. But this is easy to say with the benefit of hindsight. So on this basis, it is unfair to say that Labour “overspent”. Unless you choose to believe the Tory propaganda machine of course. I don't.
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I think its well known by anyone who isn't completely blinkered in thier view point, that the economic crisis was very little to do with New Labour and their spending within the UK, and everything to do with the US sub prime housing markets and the way neo capitalism works, the seeds of which were sown by Thatcher/Ragan.
This documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU details it all very well (if you've not seen it, its well worth a watch, but pretty depressing really)
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I don’t think Chris was referring to “The” financial crisis, more the perception that Labour will be profligate whilst in power and Tories prudent.
Not something borne out by the record though. They tend to spend differently, but neither seem to manage to balance the books.
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...followed by an election where they could propound regressive Marxist economics...
The Tory attack dogs seem to take great delight in branding Corbyn "a Marxist". It certainly plays well with the Telegraph and Mail readers. In a similar vein, arguing that Corbyn is a hard-Left Trotskyite who wants to nationalise everything and poses a threat to national security and the UK economy does not work with me. Just because he is from the most socialist part of a socialist party doesn't mean he is "a Marxist" or has neo-Communist beliefs.
What's your objection to Marxist economics anyway?
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I don’t think Chris was referring to “The” financial crisis, more the perception that Labour will be profligate whilst in power and Tories prudent.
Not something borne out by the record though. They tend to spend differently, but neither seem to manage to balance the books.
This is a favorite Republican theme too, even though in recent decades its the GOP that has been totally reckless and the Democrats responsible (relatively speaking).
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SamT, tc, i was looking a little further back towards the 70's, the IMF incident etc. Probably not entirely fair still but from the perspective i was brought up in, the perception was labour borrowed and spent their way to bankruptcy and the Tories would then have to be the responsible meanies balancing the books, for which the electorate was never grateful and had a short memory. Your perspective may of course be different.
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It’s slightly odd, this difference in perception, say “Labour” and some think Blair and boom and good times; and I think Callaghan or Foot and “Winters of discontent” and power cuts and not enough food and no money. My father’s Engineering plant closing and the collapse. Bins unemptied and Firemen on strike.
(if I said “Green Goddess” would you know what I meant)?
I think 2008 was a picnic compared to the 70’s and the latter was less global and far more a product of Labour policy.
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arguing that Corbyn is a hard-Left Trotskyite who wants to nationalise everything and poses a threat to national security and the UK economy
It would be harder to argue that if his team didn't keep coming out with proposals that they're going to nationalise utilities and trains without paying market value, nationalise 10% of all large companies 'for the workers' (while a readng of the small print showed 80% of the money would go directly to the treasury) and basically f*ck everyone not expecting to retire on a public sector pension.
Not to mention tax your children's xmas presents if granny gives them a cheque!
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PS if he doesn't want to be thought of as a neo communist (whatever one of those might be), maybe he shouldn't have recent members of the communist party in his team!
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I think 2008 was a picnic compared to the 70’s and the latter was less global and far more a product of Labour policy.
Not to exonerate Labour (or Tory) governments of the 1970s but there was a strong global element to the events and experiences of that decade - which is why the US experienced very similar problems to the UK (the beginning of deindustrialization, stagflation etc.). The two oil price shocks were felt globally of course, as were the effects of industrialization in the developing world and coming of the open door policy in China in 1978. And however bad some personal experiences may have been in the 70s 2008 was of a vastly greater scale (and a much greater threat to the world).
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I'm all for the shaking up of certain industries which seem to have chronic failings - rail springs to mind - however the notion that all ills can be fixed by re-nationalisation seems completely fanatical in its ideological simplicity.
Corbyn might say he wants to nationalise the water industry (in which I work), but doesn't really explain how this will improve the lot of the customer other than some vagueries about reducing bills. I don't believe for a second that you can maintain or improve the level of service provided and reduce bills simply by nationalising an industry.
What really irked me was a Corbyn fanatic who I climb with (and who is a lovely man) who insisted and insisted that the (massive) improvement in river quality that we have seen over the last 30 years was completely down to industrial decline (which certainly is a factor) and nothing to do with water industry investment. This is an opinion that goes beyond common ignorance and steps firmly into obtuseness. We are able to scientifically prove what benefits our investment has delivered through the modelling work that we do. But he didn't want to know that.
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The water industry is an especially poor example of privatisation - as it creates no competition - simply a series of monopolies. As long as they tick the regulators boxes all is fine and dandy.
Sure - they perform, but they also take a hefty chunk of OUR £££ as their profit. The foreign governments and pension companies who invest in them/own them are not stupid.
The water privatisation also leads to chaotic cycles of AMP funding (that you are well aware of) that limits long term planning focusing everything into 5 year cycles. Jobs,careers, contracts etc,. All revolve around this time scale.
So - despite 20 years (or more?) of privatisation there are still phenomenally high rates of water leakage in the networks (too tricky/risky for a private company to tackle?) and very low take up rates of water meters (that were unofficially discouraged by water companies as they revealed leakage rates - I was led to believe by a former YW employee...).
Even the regulation is bullshit - OFWAT rely on inspectors/reviewers who are all ex water industry employees...
I spoke about this to a local Tory MP once - he said “privatisation is only as good as the regulation” which is true but also a cop out....
Anyway - after that mini correction, in general the genie of privatisation is well out of the lamp (er where am I going... :D ) and so I think there is only so much a Labour govt would - or more importantly could do.
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Well worth five minutes:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561395335 (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561395335)
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It’s slightly odd, this difference in perception, say “Labour” and some think Blair and boom and good times; and I think Callaghan or Foot and “Winters of discontent” and power cuts and not enough food and no money.
The 1970s power cuts and associated shortages mostly occurred in 1972 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/16/newsid_2757000/2757099.stm)-1974 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week) under by the Conservatives. Which brings us back to perception versus reality.
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SamT, tc, i was looking a little further back towards the 70's, the IMF incident etc. Probably not entirely fair still but from the perspective i was brought up in, the perception was labour borrowed and spent their way to bankruptcy and the Tories would then have to be the responsible meanies balancing the books, for which the electorate was never grateful and had a short memory. Your perspective may of course be different.
It is.
Borrowing from the IMF in 1976 was the result of a whole range of problems, and is not merely attributable to the then Labour government's profligacy. True, there was a belief that it was possible to spend your way out of recession by cutting taxes and increasing government spending, but external (and historical) issues played a huge part. Britain had emerged from WW2 with heavy debts and an unsustainable initial exchange rate in the Bretton Woods system.In the early 1970s, the oil producers of Opec had shocked the global economy with dramatic price increases. The US pulled the plug on the Bretton Woods system of managed exchange rates. The miners went on strike. The UK began to experience stagflation. And so on and so forth...
Conservative policies then caused the opposite problem of too high an exchange rate, which devastated Britain’s manufacturing base.
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arguing that Corbyn is a hard-Left Trotskyite who wants to nationalise everything and poses a threat to national security and the UK economy
Not to mention tax your children's xmas presents if granny gives them a cheque!
On what do you base that particular accusation? It looks suspiciously like a Daily Mail headline.
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Good knowledge, TT. The industry is indeed not without it's flaws. My area of interest is environmental regulation so you probably understand the policy issues around finance better than I do (none of this is the company line) but I'd say the following:
The water industry is an especially poor example of privatisation - as it creates no competition - simply a series of monopolies. As long as they tick the regulators boxes all is fine and dandy.
Competition is coming. Retail competition is already a thing and domestic competition will follow, I think. I'm not sure what economic savings this will provide for customers. I don't think this isn't anything that would be changed by nationalisation.
Sure - they perform, but they also take a hefty chunk of OUR £££ as their profit. The foreign governments and pension companies who invest in them/own them are not stupid.
I see this in a similar way to the foreign bank that has invested in me and allowed me to buy a house. I've no particular view or knowledge about how good a deal we've got with the investors but their money has led to big improvements in performance which are not to be sniffed at.
The water privatisation also leads to chaotic cycles of AMP funding (that you are well aware of) that limits long term planning focusing everything into 5 year cycles. Jobs,careers, contracts etc,. All revolve around this time scale.
We do do long term planning, but quite a lot of our investment is dependent upon the political climate of the day and legislation that comes down the track. I'm not sure what makes the AMP cycle chaotic? Slow maybe, but forward planning is important to give customers more certainty about what they'll be paying in the future.
So - despite 20 30 years (or more?) of privatisation there are still phenomenally high rates of water leakage in the networks (too tricky/risky for a private company to tackle?)
I'm not sure why a nationalised industry would be expected to do better on leakage than private. The regulatory environment is geared up to reward/punish over/under performance on this. Leakage certainly used to be rife in the bad old days. It's worth bearing in mind that 0 leakage is never going to happen, so there will inevitably be a limit at which leakage is deemed acceptable.
Even the regulation is bullshit - OFWAT rely on inspectors/reviewers who are all ex water industry employees...
Can't really see a problem with this. The point is that they are ex employees. Doesn't seem surprising. I'd rather the regulators actually had a good working knowledge of the industry. A nationalised industry will still need to be regulated.
Anyway - after that mini correction, in general the genie of privatisation is well out of the lamp (er where am I going... :D ) and so I think there is only so much a Labour govt would - or more importantly could do.
There's been talk of a buy-out at less than market rate. I dread to think what that might mean for investment in this country in the future.
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On what do you base that particular accusation? It looks suspiciously like a Daily Mail headline.
Thank you, i tried! ;D
I'm sure the lifetime gift allowance won't work like that though. To start with at least.
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...followed by an election where they could propound regressive Marxist economics...
The Tory attack dogs seem to take great delight in branding Corbyn "a Marxist". It certainly plays well with the Telegraph and Mail readers. In a similar vein, arguing that Corbyn is a hard-Left Trotskyite who wants to nationalise everything and poses a threat to national security and the UK economy does not work with me. Just because he is from the most socialist part of a socialist party doesn't mean he is "a Marxist" or has neo-Communist beliefs.
What's your objection to Marxist economics anyway?
They don't work? Venezuela, Cuba, the USSR... hardly models of dynamic growth which results in a high quality of life and wealth of opportunity for their citizens are they? The biggest economic success of the last 100 or so years is clearly the USA, which appears to be rather the opposite. You seem to react to any criticism of Corbyn with a knee jerk 'Tory' or 'Daily Mail' cry, I don't think either contributes to a constructive argument.
I dislike Corbyn because many of his colleagues are either blind to or enthusiasts of antisemitism, misogyny and a pursuit of ideology above national interests.
I do not think that this is unique to the Labour party, the eurosceptic contingent of the Conservative party is rather obviously guilty of at least one of those.
Both parties have many excellent MPs, who are really interested in trying to make people's lives better, they just don't happen to be leading them.
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I was Boris Johnson’s boss: he is utterly unfit to be prime minister
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Wow, I don't like Johnson, but Hastings really doesn't....
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The biggest economic success of the last 100 or so years is clearly the USA
I think this is far from clear.
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The biggest economic success of the last 100 or so years is clearly the USA
I think this far from clear.
Depends if you come from Washington state, or Louisiana...
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings)
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Not to mention tax your children's xmas presents if granny gives them a cheque!
On what do you base that particular accusation? It looks suspiciously like a Daily Mail headline.
Thank you, i tried! ;D
I'm sure the lifetime gift allowance won't work like that though. To start with at least.
Doh, i can't do quotes on my tablet, apologies for last nights incompetence, fixed above (more or less)
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Morrissey.
Um...
Wanker.
Possibly not “news” to many.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/morrissey-interview-far-right-for-britain-racist-brexit-nigel-farage-a8973276.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561447733 (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/morrissey-interview-far-right-for-britain-racist-brexit-nigel-farage-a8973276.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1561447733)
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Thought I'd lighten the tone a little:
Is this my real wife?
Is this philandery?
Ahead by a landslide
No escape for society
Open your eyes
Look up all the lies and see:
I'm just a rich boy, no need for democracy
It’s an easy win, for old Bo Jo
A little high, on a little blow
Anyway the country goes, doesn't really matter to me, to me.
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I was Boris Johnson’s boss: he is utterly unfit to be prime minister
Great story here from Jeremy Vine about Boris, although I don't think it's endearing, it makes him look even less trustworthy.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/my-boris-story/
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I was Boris Johnson’s boss: he is utterly unfit to be prime minister
Great story here from Jeremy Vine about Boris, although I don't think it's endearing, it makes him look even less trustworthy.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/my-boris-story/
I read that earlier in the week when Jonathan Freedland used it in his Guardian article. I'm not sure if anyone really trusts him at all in the first place, he is clearly a pathological liar, cheats on his partners, doesn't appear to know how many children he has, has little no political conviction, only personal ambition... just for a start.
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Thought I'd lighten the tone a little:
Is this my real wife?
Is this philandery?
Ahead by a landslide
No escape for society
Open your eyes
Look up all the lies and see:
I'm just a rich boy, no need for democracy
It’s an easy win, for old Bo Jo
A little high, on a little blow
Anyway the country goes, doesn't really matter to me, to me.
Very nice. Is this what hes singing to Carrie Symonds in that delightful photograph that mysteriously was leaked to several newspapers?
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The biggest economic success of the last 100 or so years is clearly the USA
I think this is far from clear.
I did mean very generally, I'm aware of the appalling inequality in the states I'm just suggesting that from the early twentieth century its overtaken and vastly superceded the old European powers (I know that this is massively influenced by the two major wars and the collapse of colonial empires) but essentially it's done rather better than countries who tried far left government in the same period.
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The biggest economic success of the last 100 or so years is clearly the USA
I think this is far from clear.
I did mean very generally, I'm aware of the appalling inequality in the states I'm just suggesting that from the early twentieth century its overtaken and vastly superceded the old European powers (I know that this is massively influenced by the two major wars and the collapse of colonial empires) but essentially it's done rather better than countries who tried far left government in the same period.
Such a massively complicated and fascinating question.
Which countries are you thinking of for the comparison?
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The biggest economic success of the last 100 or so years is clearly the USA
I think this is far from clear.
I did mean very generally
I'm not sure even on raw growth data that this would be true (though I may be wrong about that, I'm working on hunches). Certainly, so far as I'm aware, it does not have the highest GDP per capita in the world. But I think going on a balanced basket of social and economic measures would throw the question even further into doubt. But I'm not convinced by the basic framing of this comparison either. Its not the case that the US has always been a free-market paradise. The US started the C20th as a highly protectionist nation, the New Deal moved the country considerably left, personal taxation was as high as 90% under Ike in the 50s, and there has long been massive government support (subsidy) for industry, for example through the military-industrial-university complex. Personally, I think the valid comparison is not with non-capitalist countries (which also tend not to be democracies either) but to other capitalist countries working on more social democratic lines.
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No one that has spent considerable time in both US and Norway (for example) can with a straight face say that US is on any measure the richer country.
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No one that has spent considerable time in both US and Norway (for example) can with a straight face say that US is on any measure the richer country.
indeed not. Though they're so different that comparison is rather difficult.
Andy P I don't disagree with anything you've said really either. My original suggestion was that a hard left economic agenda would be regressive. Left leaning social democracy has worked extremely well in many countries.
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On a different note, I read this article:
Britain is still ruled by a privately educated elite. Let’s end this culture of deference
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/25/britain-ruled-private-educated-people-culture-deference?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Which mentions a certain BJ as an example. Just a thought, but several (most?) of the labour party top brass also went to private schools: Corbyn went to a private prep school, Seamus Milne Winchester and Oxford....
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No one that has spent considerable time in both US and Norway (for example) can with a straight face say that US is on any measure the richer country.
indeed not. Though they're so different that comparison is rather difficult.
US, the most successful economy in the world bar none, and so different from other economies that it cannot be compared with them, especially those pesky ones that are clearly more successful...
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My original suggestion was that a hard left economic agenda would be regressive.
Fair enough and possibly true - I just think a rather creaky claim about the US was not the right point from which to start that argument. Anyway, I feel I've already dragged this considerably off topic and will stop.
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On a different note, I read this article:
Britain is still ruled by a privately educated elite. Let’s end this culture of deference
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/25/britain-ruled-private-educated-people-culture-deference?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Which mentions a certain BJ as an example. Just a thought, but several (most?) of the labour party top brass also went to private schools: Corbyn went to a private prep school, Seamus Milne Winchester and Oxford....
"The wealthy and elites are no more likely to be born stupid than the poor, however a wealthy upbringing compounds stupidity while a hard scrabble childhood dilutes it, if only for Darwinian reasons. This is why the elite need a prophylactic barrier of shitty state schools, to prevent clever kids from working-class postcodes ousting them from the Enclaves of Privilege". 'The Bone Clocks' by David Mitchell
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Without wanting to get into the rights and wrongs of private schooling and the impact that it has on society, I am always surprised at the amount of prejudice directed at privately educated people from those who would be rendered unconcious with indignation if analogous comments were made about their state educated peers.
This, for instance, is disgraceful:
Nevertheless, recruiters need to open their eyes to the potential downsides of candidates who are privately educated, and instead of looking at a woman’s date of birth or a person of colour’s surname and, despite it being illegal, tossing that CV into the wastepaper basket. “Oof,” they could say, “went to Eton. Might be a bit unimaginative, probably not very good at managing teams with women working on them, could be a bit blinkered by privilege.”
It's also surprising how many people seem to think that it must be some sort of plot that people who went to Eton or Harrow end up being politicians. It's like wondering why the army is full of Sandhurst graduates, or the NHS full of consultants who went to medical school, or trades full of people who went to technical colleges, or the National Symphony Orchestra full of people who went to music college.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be taking steps to broaden diversity in politics, but if you take a load of politician's kids, send them to a school with a load of other politician's kids, and sign them all up to the very good debating society (which they're not ridiculed for joining), you probably shouldn't be surprised when they leave school with expectations (not necessarily even ambitions) of becoming politicians and the skills and connections to do it.
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It's also surprising how many people seem to think that it must be some sort of plot that people who went to Eton or Harrow end up being politicians. It's like wondering why the army is full of Sandhurst graduates, or the NHS full of consultants who went to medical school, or trades full of people who went to technical colleges, or the National Symphony Orchestra full of people who went to music college.
Not really the same is it Will? Plumbers having done a plumbing course isn't really analogous to the over-representation of a privileged few in the upper echelons of government.
And are you saying there's definitely no nepotism or old school ties involved in politicians' careers?
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It's also surprising how many people seem to think that it must be some sort of plot that people who went to Eton or Harrow end up being politicians. It's like wondering why the army is full of Sandhurst graduates, or the NHS full of consultants who went to medical school, or trades full of people who went to technical colleges, or the National Symphony Orchestra full of people who went to music college.
Not really the same is it Will? Plumbers having done a plumbing course isn't really analogous to the over-representation of a privileged few in the upper echelons of government.
Exactly. Plumbers aren't really put in charge of deciding whether or not to slash funding for schools, or reduce taxes on the wealthy etc.
And are you saying there's definitely no nepotism or old school ties involved in politicians' careers?
I think that's exactly what he's saying isn't it.
This is the point though, its called 'the establishment' for a reason, its been well established for centuries.
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I'm not going to get drawn into saying it's all acceptable and nothing should be done to redress the balance. The thing I take exception with is the prejudice (the article linked to implies that all private schools are alike and that they all produce similar individuals with similar character flaws) and the idea that political appointments from a particular school or family must be a result of corruption.
I'm absolutely confident that nepotism exists in the political elite. But nepotism is not very far away from inevitability and the more hysterical voices of the left never seek to differentiate between them. If somebody has grown up in a household where a parent is a politician (or whatever really) and it is regularly discussed around the proverbial or literal dinner table, their children will end up being instilled with plenty of knowledge and skills that prepare them for the same career, and most importantly the expecatation that that is something they could and should do. Oddly, you don't see many complaining about the positions of Hilary Benn, the Milibands, Seb Corbyn (also an Oxbridge grad) etc etc etc.
The issue should be focussed on how to broaden access to politics, not restrict it from those who already feel entitled to take part.
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The issue should be focussed on how to broaden access to politics, not restrict it from those who already feel entitled to take part.
Looking at Boris, we should definitely restrict it from those who feel so very entitled...
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It's also surprising how many people seem to think that it must be some sort of plot that people who went to Eton or Harrow end up being politicians. It's like wondering why the army is full of Sandhurst graduates, or the NHS full of consultants who went to medical school, or trades full of people who went to technical colleges, or the National Symphony Orchestra full of people who went to music college.
I actually agree with the point you make about the Guardian piece, but the above doesn't follow to me. People object to there being so many people from Eton/Harrow/other similar schools in politics precisely because they don't seem to possess the skills required. That privilege and entitlement got them there is surely the natural conclusion to reach in the absence of any discernible skills (Johnson being the current example). By contrast, plumbers are skilled tradesmen, musicians can read a score and medical consultants are among the most highly educated people in the country. They earned their position. Too many people who go to Eton/Harrow and end up in public office haven't and are unfit to hold the post.
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If you are born into families who are of a certain milieu, are then educated at school and uni with those who move in that milieu and then look to find your own path through it, you are already well-schooled, well-connected and well at ease there; no hidden barriers, false starts and bemusing cultural codes to act as barriers.
All perfectly normal, because the society of those with power is normal to you. There’s no great need for talk of nepotism in that context. And confidence, self-belief, a deep sense of belonging all allied to an education (both formal and cultural) which maximises your innate talents is a powerful boost to advancement. It’s a natural consequence of that upbringing. It’s not a bad thing- in fact it’s the exact opposite, it’s an excellent thing. The problem is that it is accessible to so few.
We shouldn’t make the mistake of thinking all independent schools are the same btw- that’s as naive as saying the same thing about state schools would be.
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Obviously those who are unfit for office should not be allowed to serve. That has nothing to do with their schooling though.
Incidentally, what does qualify someone to be a politician?
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To genuinely represent the views and act in what you believe to be the best interests of your constituents?
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For some, maybe. For others it's the desire to earn £80,000 a year plus expenses for a part time job.
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I guess I answered what I think should qualify someone. I have no idea how you actually end up one though?
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If you want to stand as an independent candidate you have to be a UK citizen aged 18+ and have the support of at least 10 parliamentary electors in your constituency. Then you have to win the largest number of votes in the election.
That's the simple answer, anyway. To get accepted as a candidate by one of the main parties is infinitely more complicated. Particularly if you find the idea of fucking a dead pig's head somewhat distasteful.
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For some, maybe. For others it's the desire to earn £80,000 a year plus expenses for a part time job.
I think for the bullingdon boys and their ilk, the 80k is inconsequential. Its more the desire to access power, control and inside information/contacts that allows them to take that 80k and turn it into 800k in a short space of time and thenk 8,000,000 after that.
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Incidentally, what does qualify someone to be a politician?
This brought to mind the Douglas Adams quote:
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
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Incidentally, what does qualify someone to be a politician?
Was thinking about this overnight and am forced to conclude that I don't know! I think almost anyone is 'qualified' to be a backbench MP as there are many in this position who I think genuinely are in it to help and represent their constituencies. It gets trickier as you get higher up the food chain though as the focus switches from local issues to national and international ones. Ideally, I think that for someone to fulfil a cabinet post, which is normally a prerequisite for eventually holding the top job, they should have demonstrated an ability to keep on top of their brief for an extended period of time, have demonstrated their commitment to helping their constituents rather than naked self interest, have demonstrated a commitment to transparency, both financial and personal where relevant to the job they are doing...I'll think of a few more shortly!
I concur with the Adams quote Nutty mentioned, although it is obviously a paradox; those who actively want to run for high office almost always cannot be trusted, but those who pretend they have been forced into the job reluctantly can't be either!
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I'd agree with almost all of that.
What Huw said, about helping constituents, is fine for a common or garden backbencher but not enough for a cabinet job in my view. The best intentions in the world won't be enough to navigate the complex issues of government.
The last bit about those wishing to be in power being unsuited, and somebody's post above about £80k, I tend to think are simplistic conveniences to try and discredit those you don't agree with. I don't see people making the same accusations towards Corbyn or Abbott or whoever. Realistically, although its a great deal more than the average earnings, most of these people could be earning much more money and without the public scrutiny that goes with it if they went into banking or marketing etc.
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A cabinet job just has a greater number of constituents no? The higher up the more complex the problems, but still attempting to serve the best interests of the nation is your job description. Being able to do that becomes more challenging, however you just need the ability to decide on an appropriate solution to those complex challenges. If you can do that, great, if you can't, not so hot. I guess the problem come from that is becomes your opinion of what is in the national interest rather than directly representing the consensus view of the population you work for. Chuck a referendum on that and you end up where we are.
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I'd agree with almost all of that.
What Huw said, about helping constituents, is fine for a common or garden backbencher but not enough for a cabinet job in my view. The best intentions in the world won't be enough to navigate the complex issues of government.
The last bit about those wishing to be in power being unsuited, and somebody's post above about £80k, I tend to think are simplistic conveniences to try and discredit those you don't agree with. I don't see people making the same accusations towards Corbyn or Abbott or whoever. Realistically, although its a great deal more than the average earnings, most of these people could be earning much more money and without the public scrutiny that goes with it if they went into banking or marketing etc.
For what its worth I would pay politicians more, not less, and see if it encourages more people from different sectors of society to run for office. I don't think an instinctive cynicism about politicians motives is necessarily a bad thing, but I accept its glib and a bit simplistic.
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... directly representing the consensus view of the population you work for...
This for me is the nub of it; do we want our MPs to be representative or a delegate?
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If you allow everything to boil down to a simple "what's best for the constituents" it belies how complex a lot of the questions are and the fact that they don't always have a simple right/wrong answer.
If all decisions were made in the interests of British citizens then we'd have to agree that going out and winning oil wars were a good thing. We certainly wouldn't be getting rid of our nukes with Russia on the prowl.
If politicians are merely representing their constituents then we should have already left the EU.
"What's best for the constituents?" is a big question when it comes to fiscal policy, with many people having many different answers. Some people would like to see Corporation Tax ratcheted up and enforced much more strongly, in spite of the fact that more strained operating conditions for business means less investment and ultimately a less diverse economy (I'm not saying we shouldn't have corportation tax or that the current level is good/bad, just pointing out that it's a balancing act with more than one opinion about "what's best" being tenable).
I'd rather delegate the complex decision making to someone who shares my values and is then given the time to get to grips with the issues in far more detail than me.
Bringing this back to education. When you consider that vital skills in our parliamentary democract include the ability to: reach consensus, argue a point well, broker deals, be willing to give and to take, think deeply about the broad implications of policy decisions, and understand the political history and climate of the UK etc, we should be glad that there are outstanding people out there like Caroline Lucas who do all that without formal training, but shouldn't be surprised that PPE graduates end up in the top jobs also.
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Bringing this back to education. When you consider that vital skills in our parliamentary democract include the ability to: reach consensus, argue a point well, broker deals, be willing to give and to take, think deeply about the broad implications of policy decisions, and understand the political history and climate of the UK etc, we should be glad that there are outstanding people out there like Caroline Lucas who do all that without formal training, but shouldn't be surprised that PPE graduates end up in the top jobs also.
This.
My partner, her siblings and all her parents/step parents and grandparents are products of middle tier (though selective) private schools (Portsmouth Grammar in my partners case). I’m a state school, then selective 6th form college, type.
But we’re all Military from 6th form on, with either dark blue of green uniforms.
And those colleges might be directly compared to public school (I’m not talking about “enlisted” entry boot camps).
So, for me, it was a migration from typical, large catchment, comprehensive school, to increasingly public schooled classmates and systems.
And it changed me and my worldview.
If I contrast that to my partner. Who did the opposite.
She hit a difficult patch at 18, rebelled and to flick one off at her father (Surgeon Captain, RN), ditched her “intended” career path and headed off to a civi college.
Of course, she rebelled in the most middle class fashion, and instead of aiming for a military/medical commission, she joined Trinity House as a Deck Officer cadet...
Still, this brought her into Warsash maritime college (then part of Southampton Institute) and a world away from her very sheltered background.
Between us, we’ve a reasonable grasp of the relative merits of the two systems.
The opportunity presented to those at public schools is enviable, to me as a pleb, and something to be striven for within the state sector. I now have two kids in years 9 and 7, respectively, at different schools. My eldest is in a selective school, within a larger comprehensive (ie, she had to sit the 11+ for entry and studies in classes of only students who have passed the 11+, but is (deliberately) expected to join non-streamed students for things like PE, and PSHE etc etc.
A great system, because she faces no stigma for being in the Debating society, Drama club and History Society (some occasional comments about “Fucking Grammar tossers” but nothing much).
My lad, now ending year 7, is at a strict Catholic/CofE combined comprehensive (his fathers school and his choice, and as much for it’s sporting reputation as anything else) and he’s managed a good balance between Geek and Jock. They run “Elite Academies” for those who excel in certain subjects and they get taken into separate groups within their existing classes, rather than streamed/Grammared.
This works well to, but not as well and we’ve already encounteover-caffeinated sugary drink companyying issues with him. (I typed bullying there, that is B U L L Y I ng, but it mysteriously changed on posting).
Much of those systems have been lifted from public school practices. Both schools have been brought under the management of existing public schools and taken out of local authority control.
Even the worst local school, once a real shit hole, is now under the management of the Boys Grammar school and unrecognisable, despite no change in catchment, both in behaviour and performance.
So, my suspicion, is that some of the issues that have created the two tier political system and public school dominance of that world, will fade in coming years, and probably are already.
My experience of modern state schools is that they are vastly superior to my own comprehensive and was supposedly a “good” school by local standards.
PS, I’m strongly in favour of selective education, though I’m particularly impressed with the model at my daughters school (which she chose, against my advice, in preference to the Girls Grammar. She thinks same sex schools suck).
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I guess the problem come from that is becomes your opinion of what is in the national interest rather than directly representing the consensus view of the population you work for. Chuck a referendum on that and you end up where we are.
Well, that's basically what Farage etc would say anyway. Representative democracy is to represent the interests, not the views of voters. Otherwise, MPs should be pushing forward a white paper on reinstating the death penalty.
I totally disagree with the views put by some above that politicians are in it for the money. If you're well connected and want money, you'd go into finance, senior management of major companies... an awful lot more cash for a lot less hassle. Being an MP must be bloody tough, much of the time. A lot of public sector jobs pay far more than MPs.
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So Boris is in. I standby earlier comments that this is preferable to Hunt in being more likely to crash sooner. But I suspect it's going to be uncomfortable viewing.
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So Boris is in. I standby earlier comments that this is preferable to Hunt in being more likely to crash sooner. But I suspect it's going to be uncomfortable viewing.
With an ever decreasing 'majority'....
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https://youtu.be/CoifaIEvC0Q
The 2003 appearance of Boris Johnson on top gear. A telling interview.
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I'm ignoring the whole PM thing... most recently a series of plummy sounding BJ supporters cheerfully papering over his cracks/chasms have made me stop listening to the radio.
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I'm ignoring the whole PM thing... most recently a series of plummy sounding BJ supporters cheerfully papering over his cracks/chasms have made me stop listening to the radio.
Depressing isn't it. Mostly the parade of lightweights and incompetence that will make up most of the cabinet.
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Well, this thread hasn’t seen light for a while, what with constant Brexit and Election shit.
However, this one is worth sharing.
It’s always heartening to see who and how many, run towards the danger, when the shit goes down.
BZ’s.
Bravery and selflessness (https://www.indy100.com/article/london-bridge-terror-attack-narhwal-tusk-hero-twitter-reaction-9227111?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1575106611)
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These bloody foreigners, coming over here and heroically risking their lives to fight off terrorists...
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These bloody foreigners, coming over here and heroically risking their lives to fight off terrorists...
I know, right!
Anybody would think they were actually just other human beings, with similar wants and needs, but a funny accent or different skin pigmentation and otherwise identical to us...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53250718
Thoughts? I feel for some up and coming musicians, but those throwing their weight behind this are not exactly short of a bob or two. They want support from tax payer's money so they can go on investing millions in offshore bank accounts? Feels a hard pill for me to swallow.
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They all stated that their concern was for the employees in the industry, which the article cites as some 210k people. They don't demand an immediate return to gigs, just a plan for getting there.
:shrug:
Would you rather that people in privileged positions didn't use their high profile and poured themselves another glass of Bolly instead?
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No, I'd rather they gave some of their millions back to the industry which has made them incredibly wealthy, either by donating some of their enormous earnings, or doing the gigs on a charitable basis at the venue and it getting their share. Do you think it's purely altruistic or do they want to keep earning? The small venues are what gave them their start, maybe they can give a bit back, rather than asking for taxpayer money to do it?
Struggling bands excluded of course, but Macca, Coldplay, Liam Gallagher, Ed Sheeran and the Rolling Stones are not exactly in financial difficulty.
Or should our taxes be used to shore up the industry?
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I think that's a bit of a straw man of an argument tbh. Clearly they could do that but it wouldn't come close to addressing the black hole in the arts finances. That will only be mitigated with government intervention.
The arts are getting nailed all over the country. Without some government assistance there will be a cultural vacuum for years.
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Government money is shoring up many other industries, why not the arts?
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Most "arts" haven't made people multi-millionaires like music has and do need support.
https://wealthygorilla.com/richest-rockstars-world/
I just feel the richest people in the music business crying out is like Branson asking for support.
Clearly I am alone.
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No I agree with you Chris but better still what about the record companies coughing up a few quid as they seem to do alright out of it.
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And streaming services while they are at it, but to b fair they aren't the one who are making the fuss.
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No I agree with you Chris but better still what about the record companies coughing up a few quid as they seem to do alright out of it.
Once upon a time, perhaps, but now the steaming services hoover up most of the profits in the music industry and it's bloody hard work for most artists to earn a living.
European governments have supported their arts industries to the tune of billions, and ours have got nothing.
I believe that the actual request above is for aid for venues not the artists. Personally I'd like the UK film music and theatre industry not to disappear. The government should help them out.
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And streaming services while they are at it, but to b fair they aren't the one who are making the fuss.
:lol: beat me to it! They're the actual profiteers these days, not the artists
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64-year-old man accidentally ejects from fighter jet. (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/france-fighter-jet-ejection-scli-intl/index.html)
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FFS... Facepalm etc.. Scuffles on the top of Snowdon
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/fight-breaks-out-between-hikers-18858904
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Mental. Some fragile egos getting popped there.
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One is wearing a high vis jacket while the other appears to be in a Manchester United shirt.
Harry Maguire continuing his holiday closer to home I see.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59038506
Quite like the points raised in this. Apparently Zuck is renaming his ultra-corp soon, maybe Hatebook would be a nice succinct choice.
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Bulb into "Special Administration".... Fack!
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/nov/22/bulb-energy-which-supplies-17m-customers-collapses-into-administration
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Kelly Slater has won the Pipeline Masters. Aged 49.
:jaw:
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youth..
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Kelly Slater has won the Pipeline Masters. Aged 49.
:jaw:
The final heat is up on youtube. An absolute masterclass by Kelly 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDViMzH84_o
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Apparently an Iranian female Rick climber is missing after competing without her hijab. Probably detained by the authorities. Translated from bbc Persia
https://www-bbc-com.translate.goog/persian/sport-63293653?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Sent home early. Worrying. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/fears-for-iranian-climber-elnaz-rekabi-after-she-competed-in-seoul-without-a-hijab