Also on a Sheffield tip......
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/greedycow/beer_tasting/images/moonshine150.jpg)
....... the lovely Moooooonshine :drink:
this afternoon after court
Can't beat a bit of real.
I can't beat Hopback brewery ales, though I'm gonna be controversial and say I prefer Crop Circle
(http://www.hopback.co.uk/GIFS/crop_tl_001.gif)
to summer lightning. And as its my local pub and all, I know whats reet bo and whats shite.
(http://www.hambletonales.co.uk/images/palerider_ron_format.gif)
Mmmmmmmmmmmm, Pale Rider, Kelham Island's finest. It's hard to believe its brewed in the same tanks that used to churn out gallons of manky piss watter for Wards brewery.
Lets have a thread bout real ales innit.
I'll kick off with everyones favourite Taylor'z Landlord:
(http://www.timothytaylor.co.uk/cards/landlord.jpg)
thats a bo pint. y'all.
any posts about stella or semi-imported generic lagers will be moderated....
I had the same beers that night (and a couple of sneaky Old P's) and I felt a little rough the following day, much to my surprise :8) . The stout was the pick of the bunch though.
i've got to say this shit is the bomb:
(http://www.badgerbrewery.com/images/beers/i_gg_bot.jpg)
its a bo beer, and its tastes of muthafukking peaches shamone - that right, peaches! F-FF-F-FFF-FFresh
that outmeal shit is the bomb - top tip, get a bunch of mates and arrange a trip round the wentworth brewery. it'll cost you a fiver, they have a small bar and will pour you as many pints of oatmeal stout, WPA, rampant gryphon etc etc as you can drink. looks a bit like this:
(http://beardownproductions.co.uk/wentworth.jpg)
word!
* alky disclaimer:
I wouldn't normally be drinking ale on a Monday afternoon but I was working from midnight last night 'til 6 this morning and am now wide awake again after only 3 hours kip...so I reckon I'm allowed ;)
but your book also claims that you can train whilst drinking mahitos' :lol:
(http://ukbouldering.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10165/normal_Beer.jpg)
Anyone wishing to purchase "the best beer in the world" should look here..
Quote from: "Jim"(http://ukbouldering.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10165/normal_Beer.jpg)
Awesome!
who goes into a pub orders a pint of bitter, decides it horrid, then tries a pint of lager,thats horrid, then cider, horrid and finally decides to wash it down with horrible cola?
opposite Bolton School
Whereabouts in Manchester are you based? If its not too far give Banktop Brewery in Bolton a ring they'll sell you a keg or two.
Persoanl favourite CAMRA cliches are those incredibly protuberant, rounded beer guts you see attached to otherwise very spindly fellas; people who regardless of origin look incredibly "Cornish" (hard to define: cheerful and ruddy-faced with an air of enjoying smuggling and luring ships onto rocks with lanterns), the wild-eyed insane looking types who always gather around the cider / perry stall; and the "techno-tickers" who can be seen gamely struggling against alcohol induced dementia to enter tasting-notes into palm-pilots....
the sheff beer fest topic reminded me - had a few of these in the cove house inn on Portland a few weeks back, right fine it is too
(http://www.beerfromthecoast.co.uk/content/beer_from_the_coast/media/pic_broadside-large.gif)
you can get the bottled version in sainsburys anall.
the sheff beer fest topic reminded me - had a few of these in the cove house inn on Portland a few weeks back, right fine it is too
(http://www.beerfromthecoast.co.uk/content/beer_from_the_coast/media/pic_broadside-large.gif)
you can get the bottled version in sainsburys anall.
Agreed on this one. I was working in Nottingham last year for a fortnight, and made regular trips to a boozer called The Grove to get "Broadsided"
Nice
Speaking of cider/perry, you can get brothers pear cider outside of glastonbury festival now! Not sure of the quality, but I've certainly had some good times on it...
(http://www.brotherscider.co.uk/img/bottle_dark.jpg)
Not really the same when its not in an unmarked 2l plastic bottle.
I'm developing a bit of an addiction to pedigree at the mo. Can't get enough
http://www.meantimebrewing.com/london_porter.html
Oh hang on. Eh up? Are you suggesting weiss bier is not real ale? It's far more real and stronger, thicker, more hangover inducing than most UK flat offerings. I used to think UK beer was the best, then I travelled to Germany and Czechoslovakia and wised up. Taste sensation territory.
(http://www.augustiner-braeu.de/lagerbierhell.png)
The cask bitter is shite but their bottled Pale Ale, Oatmeal Stout, and especially Nutbrown Ale are all dead tasty. The draught Pure Brewed Lager and wheat beer are both nice too
Hell yeah, though that's the first time I've ever heard 'lager' used as a verb.
Our flagship bitter is medium bodied with a gentle sparkle which delivers a rich hop flavour to give a refreshing and characterful pint. This great British beer is smooth and easy drinking and has an ABV of 3.8%Was very tasty and easy to drink. A great session beer
This is one tasty beverage.
http://www.innisandgunn.com/index.htm (http://www.innisandgunn.com/index.htm)
Bought a bottle to try in Booths when I was last down South, wish I had got more, as I haven't seen it in any supermarkets up here.
It seems to hold true today, as the subtle addition of extract of peach blossom to enhance the floral blend of aromatic and bitter hops has created an outright award-winning ale that is refreshing, charismatic and...Absolutely Glorious.
This is one tasty beverage.
http://www.innisandgunn.com/index.htm (http://www.innisandgunn.com/index.htm)
Bought a bottle to try in Booths when I was last down South, wish I had got more, as I haven't seen it in any supermarkets up here.
It's available in the Tesco in Castle Douglas if that helps...
If that's the same stuff that's aged in the whisky barrels (which I'm sure it is although they don't mention the whisky aspect on the packaging nor much on the website any more), then I concur with your recommendation, it's an absolutely top beer, very tasty indeed and refreshing even when un-chilled.
Anyone mentioned St. Peters of Suffolk, ye olde beer in the oval bottle?
Their wheat beer is sublime (even tasting good warm - which is not the way to drink wheat beers).
quick heads-up for sheffside west peeps, if you get your black asses over to the Risin Sun (nether green) this weekend its their beer festival, got a shit load of ales on in a tent in the carpark. I went last night and sampled a few, some very illin shit doing down. lots of stouts, and even an 11% wheat beer. get a half glass so you can try more stuff etc.
http://www.risingsunsheffield.co.uk/sunfest2.html (http://www.risingsunsheffield.co.uk/sunfest2.html)
It only cost a fiver back then!Double bargain!
Ramp Griph is OK but not my favourite (tastes a bit too much like smoked cheese for me). I greatly prefer the Oatmeal Stout, and WPA and bumblebeer is also well fine - basically its all good, enjoy.I love smoked cheese so this stuff should be good. The WPA and bumblebee are lovelly pints. Always on in the local. :great:
Went to the black swann in Fearby on the way back from Slipstones. The best pint of Black Sheep I have ever had!!!
Just enjoying:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1159/664962506_6834b9072d.jpg?v=0)
they seem to have an impressive range.
http://www.beer-pages.com/stories/st-peters.php (http://www.beer-pages.com/stories/st-peters.php)
seeing as though I'm not taking climbing that seriously at the minute I thought it was time I redressed the balance and focussed my attention on :alky:
Had a few of these in the sheaf last night and very good it was too - really sharp crisp taste to it - a bit like the wine of a similar name.
It does seem to cause a rather nasty hangover though... Sad
Had a few of these in the sheaf last night and very good it was too - really sharp crisp taste to it - a bit like the wine of a similar name.Foretaste of silky smooth lychee nectar...
(http://www.pictish-brewing.co.uk/wpimages/wpbca01d3e_1b.jpg)
It does seem to cause a rather nasty hangover though... :(
Now tell them the bit about you having bought it all Dolly before everyone sets off to Tesco SmileyI only bought the one case on display TBH :-[
I don't think it keeps for long in this condition though. Maybe a few days I'd guess.
Whoever told you you need to let the cask settle for 2 weeks is talking out of their bottomThat would be the wentworth brewery.
Marstons double drop is my latest tipple, really clean and refreshing... No hangovers either... BONUS!
i've never had a wack copper dragon - all their shit is well brown.aye.... Golden Pippen, Scotts 1816, the Black Gold dark mild, and the Challenger IPA are all really good. The Osset brewery do similarly complex, hoppy shizzle. Not to be confused with the Otley Brewery, who although good, are somewhat confusingly for Yorkshiremen, Welsh. If you're ever in the area the Booth's in Ilkley has one of the best selections of bottled foreign / real ale around.
Great Divide - Titan IPA and Goose Island - IPA: incredibly hoppy American IPAs, hugely bitter and grapefruity.
is that the ruby? I've only seen it in packs and by that time there's been enough rattling around in the trolley.
Great Divide - Titan IPA and Goose Island - IPA: incredibly hoppy American IPAs, hugely bitter and grapefruity.
definitely second the Goose Island IPA, closest i've found to my favourite, Deschutes Inversion IPA.
http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brews/year-round-brews/inversion-ipa/default.aspx (http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brews/year-round-brews/inversion-ipa/default.aspx)
Their Porter is bloody good too.
The Kelham Island Boozer, Sheffield has been voted the Camra National Pub of the Year for 2008.
http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=potywinner (http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=potywinner)
Don't think I've been in. Might have to pop down one lunchtime.
Yeah, I normally go to the Harlequin myself. They often have local musicians in playing, some are okay, others less so, but beers always good, and Mondays are tres cheap (plus its actually in the direction of home for me).
The Riverside doesn't seem to be open on weekday evenings since xmas. Occasionally go to the Fat Cat. It'll be interesting to see how the Gardener's Rest turns out after the refurbishment.
Went into what used to be my local offy the other day and discovered they now stock Brooklyn - score! they also had the porter and IPA, not tried these yet but will report back. Also walked out with:
(http://www.flyingdogales.com/images/beer-scratch-bottle.gif)(http://www.flyingdogales.com/images/beer-snake-bottle.gif)(http://www.anchorbrewing.com/images/anchor_bottle.jpg)(http://mslk.com/reactions/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/lucky.jpg)
the Lucky is an aussie rice beer - fairly forgettable to be honest, but the bottle makes it worthwhile! Not yet drunk the others, but especially looking forward to the Flying Dog IPA, the blurb implies a bit of a hop monster (and any brewery with endorsements from Hunter and Steadman must be doing something right!).
Had a pint of this in the Harlequin last night...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3346053273_675980dd53.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slackline/3346053273/)
Quite tasty, although both the cats were asleep when I got home (perhaps they need to drink it to benefit from the perk :P)
Good skills there Moose - having just moved up and got settled I was wondering where to go for my independant beer shop fix. It would appear the latter of your recommendations is 5 mins from my work...alllright!
'tother half came back with this for me today:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TxBQbuSOnVQ/SWkKg7IQL6I/AAAAAAAAB0k/ZQKmvts0bII/s200/Morressey+Fox+Blonde+Ale.JPG)
Rather good really - more body than most pale ales, and decent hops too. Worth a go.
The small print on the label is some great German blurb about why this beer is great: it's just water, malt, hops; simple cap; no gold paper over the cap; no flash TV ad's or magazine ad's etc.. really goes to town on it - not that they need to - you can't argue w/ 40p a half litre :whistle:
'tother half came back with this for me today:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TxBQbuSOnVQ/SWkKg7IQL6I/AAAAAAAAB0k/ZQKmvts0bII/s200/Morressey+Fox+Blonde+Ale.JPG)
Rather good really - more body than most pale ales, and decent hops too. Worth a go.
That's on tap in the Woodstock in Didsbury if you live over this way.
My top choice was Last Rites.
(http://www.abbeydalebrewery.co.uk/images/beer%20images/last_rites.jpg)
But I'm sure Abbeydale Brewery must do something dodgy with all of their beers, because they always give me stonking headaches.
Andechs make my favourite German trad bottled beers. I've never seen this in the UK, but there's no reason to think that it's unavailable there.You must stop pouring your own beer Houds, get a responsible adult to do it for you.
Had a bottle of this recently, this bottle clearly poured by a buffoon AND served in an inappropriate glass ... tsk.
(http://www.troesterfamily.com/brewing/lifetype2/images/63_Andechser_Bergbock_Hell.jpg)
It was a great beer, but it tasted obviously strong (it's 7%) and I find that a bit off putting on the palate. I'd probably drink more at some point though :)
Don't be facitious, Joe.Yeah next time you're over bring some and perhaps via Jas or his starfishliness we can arrange a cash for beer exchange.
As if I'd sully that beer w/ that glass. I'm sorry Joe, but the council has decreed that you must die for your impertinence ...
*sniff*
Any requests?
(http://www.hornbeambrewery.com/images/BCSJPEG.jpeg)Hornbeam brewery is just round the corner from my house, I wasn't so keen on that stout when I tried it at the brewery.
and for a nice stout. check this out. well brown etc.
My top choice was Last Rites.
(http://www.abbeydalebrewery.co.uk/images/beer%20images/last_rites.jpg)
But I'm sure Abbeydale Brewery must do something dodgy with all of their beers, because they always give me stonking headaches.
Eugh! Thought this was disgusting. Tasted like vodka and salt. Ended up having a pint of it in Arcadia in Headingley and after a couple more beers I was barred! It seems that when being irritable with paying customers who have behaved very reasonably the landlady does not appreciate being told to "chill out" :shrug:
I had a bottle fo this last night, - don't be put off by the word "lager", its actually supoib! bada bing.
(http://www.fourcorners.ie/images/BrooklynLagerGlass.jpg)
Not a beer and doesn't really do the scene justice, but, home sweet home:
wines
Traditional boozers soon to be a thing of the past at this rate :thumbsdown: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8161793.stm)
It would help if Tax weren't so high (~33% of the price) (http://www.axethebeertax.com/).
The other thing that would help would be to get rid of the fucking poncy branded glasses which only get nicked, leave you without any glasses and cost the drinker to be replaced!
Now I like an ale (don't get me wrong) but for me pub culture is over-rated. I drink at home because I don't like drunks, yobs staring me out etc.. I have better music, decor, general atmosphere/company @ home; not to mention not paying 3x more for a product than it's reasonably worth ... I mean, have you seen the wines available in British pubs ...
Traditional boozers soon to be a thing of the past at this rate :thumbsdown: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8161793.stm)
It would help if Tax weren't so high (~33% of the price) (http://www.axethebeertax.com/).
The other thing that would help would be to get rid of the fucking poncy branded glasses which only get nicked, leave you without any glasses and cost the drinker to be replaced!
I've posted about this before. Ah here we are (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10191.msg194270.html#msg194270).
I think you've been going to the wrong pubs if thats the sort of culture you experience. Sounds like a typical chain pub in a city center.
I think you've been going to the wrong pubs if thats the sort of culture you experience. Sounds like a typical chain pub in a city center.
Snowdon Inn AKA Y Fricsann, Cwm-Y-Glo. Drunks, aggro, dire decor, shit beer.
Why must most UK pubs look like some Grandpa's living room? Horse brasses FFS, and what's that minature plough doing hanging from the ceiling, ha ha! It's a poor imitation of culture, take it, you're very welcome ;)
Then there's the added factor that a pub with children in it isn't really a pub, it's a fucking hell hole.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8170813.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8170813.stm)Toyko *. *? Why the fuck does it need a *? Just like Tesco's Finest fucking *, that is prime kick in the cock territory for the branding cretins.
18.2% beer anyone? Given it comes from Fraserburgh, this is what the kids are weaned on.
Not an ale, but i'd love to try this
http://www.chilibeer.ie/buychilibeer.html (http://www.chilibeer.ie/buychilibeer.html)
anybody experienced it? basically is it pish :please:
Jesus Slackers, what w/ your smoking,coffeebeer drinking and chilli addiction, your ring must be in a shocking state of affairs :'(
Well, the delivery of Zeitgeist Black Lager arrived...
The Erdinger Dunkelweisse is a decent one -available in lots of supermarkets and nicer than the normal white version.
Was the knackered finger suitably anaesthetised?
Back on topic, I had a dreadful day at work today due to drinking all the bottles of Seirra Nevada Pal Ale that I'd bought earlier in the day. It started off a bit :beer1: but today I felt a bit :alky: and very :yawn: due to waking up at 1ama nd not getting back to sleep till 4:30...weird!
Anyway this: (http://blog.collegebars.net/uploads/10-beers-you-must-drink-this-summer/10-beers-you-must-drink-this-summer-sierra-nevada-pale-ale.jpg)
Tastes damn fine!
Ah, The Rev. James.
The ONE redeeming feature of the Gallt-Y-Glyn (the pizza & pint dump just past DMM in Llanber') is they often have Rev. James on tap.
Was the knackered finger suitably anaesthetised?
Yep. The finger seems to have made a miraculous recovery. It has only been very mildly tender once since it made it's weird popping noise...must be the magic brew!
Back on topic, I had a dreadful day at work today due to drinking all the bottles of Seirra Nevada Pal Ale that I'd bought earlier in the day. It started off a bit :beer1: but today I felt a bit :alky: and very :yawn: due to waking up at 1ama nd not getting back to sleep till 4:30...weird!
Anyway this: (http://blog.collegebars.net/uploads/10-beers-you-must-drink-this-summer/10-beers-you-must-drink-this-summer-sierra-nevada-pale-ale.jpg)
Tastes damn fine! Got it from Lupes Pintos deli on Great Western road, Glasgow.
if you go in lupe pintos again try the negra modello (dark mexican beer), and the bohemia.
(http://www.icypole.net/russia/Baltika-Beer.jpg)
I'm in Kazakhstan, drinking lots of Russian beer, Baltika mostly. The standard, cheapest (in blue) being my favourite. They make some stupidly strong stuff, but I like my beer at 5%.
1.29...? interesting.That was an offer - so may only be in some stores.. but I'll be back there..
I haven't been in the Three Stags Heads for ages, have they still got the petrified cat?No it stopped feeling scared some time ago.
Drinking a glass of Brewdog Hardcore I.P.A it does have a sorta caramelly taste but the alcohol is just too much, I dont mind other strong beers like Duvel but the strength really comes through on this one, dont think I'll be buying any more.I really like the Hardcore IPA, but if it's too much for you try the Chaos Theory IPA they do, exellent and not as full on as the former. The brewdog stuff is on offer in Sainsburys at the moment too.
www.trampjuice.tk (http://www.trampjuice.tk)
:)
Tesco have cut the percentage of their highly rated own brand super to a paltry 7.9%. This has led to uproar in the Super Lager community and we urge you all to boycott Tesco from now on. Expect a review up soon, once we have worked out a way to procure a sample without letting Tesco profit.
However Jack Law, of Alcohol Focus Scotland, described it was a "cynical marketing ploy" and said: "We want to know why a brewer would produce a beer almost as strong as whisky."
not proper real ale I know but this stuff is great in cans and good value too (you have to shop at sainsburys tho)
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1262730481335 (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1262730481335)
not proper real ale I know but this stuff is great in cans and good value too (you have to shop at sainsburys tho)
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1262730481335 (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1262730481335)
what is it Jim, the link's bruk
[slight hijack] Where's the best pub in glasgow for the combination of: Ale & Rugby & Atmosphere? [/slight hijack]
we (me and the lads from work) were looking at popping there this lunchtime - but its a bloody fiver to stand outside in a tent !
(Excluding oddities) wheat beers come in 3 types: Dunkel (dark, unfiltered), Hefe ("yeast" opaque, unfiltered) & my favourite, the clear filtered Kristall.
They had the brewer's passion in my local - I'll have to pop in a try one. :thumbsup:
Don't delay. make sure you have a good sniff before quaffing. It's a lovely aroma of passion fruit.
It could be likened to Badgers Golden Glory, but it has a maltier after taste. yum
Don't delay. make sure you have a good sniff before quaffing. It's a lovely aroma of passion fruit.
It could be likened to Badgers Golden Glory, but it has a maltier after taste. yum
That sounds like a good rec' right there. However a slight health trip started today. The last passion fruit beer I tasted was something bottled that Nat ordered at the Sheffield tap. It was horrible, overly perfumed, very sweet etc.
I also had something else involving a rooster but I can't remember, not quite as good but similar in style.
Something by these guys (http://www.roosters.co.uk/products.htm) at a guess.
I want some of this shit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-10725024)
Alright honeytits, had my ass some of this badboy at the Cat tonight, check it out its well futile etc:
(http://www.acorn-brewery.co.uk/itemimages/motueka_5_nz_med.jpg)
Chinook - Goose Eye - 4.2%
Drop the Punk shiiite and just do more dogma
New Thornbridge run pub in the offing (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/local/bid_to_bring_back_spirit_of_the_great_british_pub_1_1658429)
New Thornbridge run pub in the offing (http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/local/bid_to_bring_back_spirit_of_the_great_british_pub_1_1658429)
The Greystones is certainly a vast improvement over the Highcliffe which it has replaced and the beer is well kept. Sampled some t'other evening. Prices are a bit extravagant though and I'm not a fan of Thornbridges marketing policy. But since they sell good beer ...
Coming soon to a pub near you....2/3 of a pint (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/04/pints_out_for_schooners/)
Anchor - Porter (US interpretation of the classic London style)
Am I the only one who misses the original full fat version of Old Peculiar (9%) - we used to drop in the Junction in Otley on the way to the Lakes (early 80's) for a quick one or two and it certainly made the journey more fun/blurry/blacked out - its a crime what they did to it :wavecry: it was pretty much liquid food for the weekend - old skool carb loading :)
Had a pint of Golden Pippin today From Copper Dragon brewery in SkiptonGolden pippin is a good steady away beer will drink it if there is nothing better on (which there normally is).
http://copperdragonbrewery.squarespace.com/ (http://copperdragonbrewery.squarespace.com/)
It was very good, like a slightly less alcoholic Moonsine if you like that sort of light hoppy ale
Not sure about their claim to produce the best ales in Yorkshire tho :-\
It will reopen in early August as "The Ale House" and is an entirely free of tie addition to the real ale circuit
What's wrong with The Big Tree?
(http://saltairebrewery.co.uk/saltaire/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/cascade-pale-ale.png)
Have enjoyed some really great local beers during this trip to Sweden. Sampling three different ales from this brewery http://feedforall.com/rss2html.php?XMLFILE=http://www.oppigards.com/oppirss_2.xml&TEMPLATE=http://www.oppigards.com/webb/start.html&MAXITEMS=1 (http://feedforall.com/rss2html.php?XMLFILE=http://www.oppigards.com/oppirss_2.xml&TEMPLATE=http://www.oppigards.com/webb/start.html&MAXITEMS=1)
Had a couple of the pale ale that these guys do:
http://einstokbeer.com/home.html (http://einstokbeer.com/home.html)
Have enjoyed some really great local beers during this trip to Sweden. Sampling three different ales from this brewery http://feedforall.com/rss2html.php?XMLFILE=http://www.oppigards.com/oppirss_2.xml&TEMPLATE=http://www.oppigards.com/webb/start.html&MAXITEMS=1 (http://feedforall.com/rss2html.php?XMLFILE=http://www.oppigards.com/oppirss_2.xml&TEMPLATE=http://www.oppigards.com/webb/start.html&MAXITEMS=1)Had a couple of the pale ale that these guys do:
http://einstokbeer.com/home.html (http://einstokbeer.com/home.html)
You wait ages for Scandinavian beer and then...
Had a couple of the pale ale that these guys do:
http://einstokbeer.com/home.html (http://einstokbeer.com/home.html)
at the weekend - very, very nice.
I saw a brief documentary on look north about that shit. Is it any good? I was slightly deterred by the price.
Going on the tour here tomorrow
http://www.meantimebrewing.com/meantime (http://www.meantimebrewing.com/meantime)
Had some of this last night.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ryh76LXcNf4/UT3Qx5TM9JI/AAAAAAAAASg/_oMHeDRxB_k/s335/cascade.jpg)
It was very good and tasted exactly as described on the label.
Haven't heard of the brewery before but I'd be keen to try some more of their beers after this
Was in the Cremorne yesterday and they said the next beer to go on (probs today or tomorrow) will be Pictish Brewery Blue Moon. Its beyond belief. Get down if you can. They said that when they put it on in The Sheaf it goes in 4 hours.
(http://www.pictish-brewing.co.uk/wpimages/wpaf405890.jpg)
I'm not one for any sort of novelty beers fruit etc. however I had a bottle of Moor / Arbor Double Dark Alliance the other night (they'd got hold of it). Its a hoppy stout flavoured with coffee and I've never had anything like it before - in a good way. Also it weighs in at an eye watering 9.2%. Not sure how widely available it is as its made in Bristol by a small brewery. I'd highly recommend it.
I'm not one for any sort of novelty beers fruit etc. however I had a bottle of Moor / Arbor Double Dark Alliance the other night (they'd got hold of it). Its a hoppy stout flavoured with coffee and I've never had anything like it before - in a good way. Also it weighs in at an eye watering 9.2%. Not sure how widely available it is as its made in Bristol by a small brewery. I'd highly recommend it.Good call. I've had some of the Arbor Freestyle Fridays and they were up there with the best. I'll look out for this one...
I'm not one for any sort of novelty beers fruit etc. however I had a bottle of Moor / Arbor Double Dark Alliance the other night (they'd got hold of it). Its a hoppy stout flavoured with coffee and I've never had anything like it before - in a good way. Also it weighs in at an eye watering 9.2%. Not sure how widely available it is as its made in Bristol by a small brewery. I'd highly recommend it.
Moor are fucking brilliant. Never had anything from them I didn't love. 9.2 sounds a bit rich for my blood though! Grape and Grind on Gloucester Rd do all their bottles Corks of Cotham stock some too, not cheap mind.
I'm still slightly phased by the fact that the big Sainsbury's in Leeds city centre had bottles of Daleside Blonde (one of my favourites) for £1.05 a bottle today.
should be opening today
http://www.sheffieldcamra.org.uk/beer-central-in-moor-market/ (http://www.sheffieldcamra.org.uk/beer-central-in-moor-market/)
There's a piss up in a brewery on Friday night in the village where I'm on holiday (Inneralpbach).
A Sheffield based climbing buddy of mine has started up a small business making craft brewing kits: http://craftalekits.com (http://craftalekits.com)
Might be worth checking out, I've tried a couple of the brews and they were very good. The local brew shop told him it wasn't possible to make decent ale with stuff you can use and store in a normal kitchen, so he set out to prove them wrong. He dropped off a sample of his first brew to the shop to try, who sheepishly admitted it was one of the best bottled beers they'd ever tasted :)
the hipster thread just reminded me...
I popped into the micro pub near Hunters Bar the other week
On the recommendation of some regulars, I had a pint of Lagonda (http://www.marblebeers.com/our-beers/lagonda-ipa/) - easily the best IPA I've had in a long time
the smell was what interested me at first - reminded me of the smell of heather when it's in flower (maybe clover?)
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Might not be news to some. Bottles of Blacksheep are half a fuck all a bottle in Aldi.
Makes the seemingly good deal of 3 bottles for two fuck alls in other supermarkets look rubbish.
Brew Dog have just 'open-sourced' their beer (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/brewdogs-open-source-revolution-is-at-the-vanguard-of-postcapitalism)There is quite a bit of discussion in the brewing scene on the accuracy of some of these recipes. Hop quantities, hop schedules, Alpha Acid %, boil times, etc.
DIY Dog (https://6303ffd34a16b1ca5276-a9447b7dfa4ae38e337b359963d557c4.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/DIY%20DOG.pdf)
Brew Dog have just 'open-sourced' their beer (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/brewdogs-open-source-revolution-is-at-the-vanguard-of-postcapitalism)
DIY Dog (https://6303ffd34a16b1ca5276-a9447b7dfa4ae38e337b359963d557c4.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/DIY%20DOG.pdf)
Brew Dog have just 'open-sourced' their beer (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/brewdogs-open-source-revolution-is-at-the-vanguard-of-postcapitalism)There is quite a bit of discussion in the brewing scene on the accuracy of some of these recipes. Hop quantities, hop schedules, Alpha Acid %, boil times, etc.
DIY Dog (https://6303ffd34a16b1ca5276-a9447b7dfa4ae38e337b359963d557c4.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/DIY%20DOG.pdf)
Aside from this, it's still a great source of inspiration and ideas. There is a lot in there and will get people in the ballpark for many of their beers.
I'm assuming that means you're probably not particularly keen on keg beers, but if you happen to find yourself in there again they usually have something on by Stone brewing from the US which is miles better than the usual Brewdog pizzle.Brew Dog have just 'open-sourced' their beer (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/brewdogs-open-source-revolution-is-at-the-vanguard-of-postcapitalism)
DIY Dog (https://6303ffd34a16b1ca5276-a9447b7dfa4ae38e337b359963d557c4.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/DIY%20DOG.pdf)
If the fizzy piss served up in Brewdog Manchester is anything to go by I'll be steering well clear!
You know what fizzy piss tastes like?
I'm not feeling this, some of the brewdog bottled beers I've had are among the best I've tasted.
I'm not feeling this, some of the brewdog bottled beers I've had are among the best I've tasted.
We had high hopes, a few guys from work on a little Friday afternoon crawl around the better beer establishment of the city. One guys suggested Brewdog, it had a good rep but what we got was awful. We had just come from The Knott though so it had a lot to live up to.
I'm not feeling this, some of the brewdog bottled beers I've had are among the best I've tasted.
I'm not criticising them really, certainly not for that. I agree with Will that their disagreement with CAMRA is just that, all they want to do is have a disagreement with CAMRA. At the recent CAMRA Manc beer fest there was a keg bar that did very well. No CAMRA complaints there.
Marketing nonsense aside, I think most of their beers are meh to my tastes, but I like some stuff and wouldn't write them off simply for being them. Others seem more militant about it.
So hang on, we're saying the criticism of brewdog is that people don't like 100% of the beers they brew? Jeez, tough crowd.
I'm not criticising them really, certainly not for that. I agree with Will that their disagreement with CAMRA is just that, all they want to do is have a disagreement with CAMRA. At the recent CAMRA Manc beer fest there was a keg bar that did very well. No CAMRA complaints there.
Marketing nonsense aside, I think most of their beers are meh to my tastes, but I like some stuff and wouldn't write them off simply for being them. Others seem more militant about it.
I'm not a fan of any of their beers that I've tried, they are not to my taste in the same vein that I don't understand what all the fuss is about with Thornbridge, I will drink Thornbridge if it's that or Carling but if I'm in the Bath hotel I'll always go for one of the guest ales. One of my favorite breweries is Woodfordes which to me is good beer.
The term craft beer fills me with rage, it's fucking beer!! It's made the same way as beer produced by Inbev or Skinners or Coniston and the same way it has been done for hundreds of years! It's not even a defined style like a Belgian blonde or American IPA. It's like craft bakeries, you're making bread the same way as other bakeries and the same way bread has been made for thousands of years. If I grow a beard and start riding a fixie can I have craft sex?
The term craft beer fills me with rage, it's fucking beer!! It's made the same way as beer produced by Inbev
I've only ever had Woodfordes from a kit that someone made. I've never had the chance to try their beer on cask as I've never seen it on anywhere really, certainly not Manc way.
Inbev definitely don't make beer the same way as Brewdog or other "craft" breweries.
They probably use hop oils instead of whole hops but I'm sure some microbreweries are experimenting with them particularly in the copper, how else does the process differ?
They probably use hop oils instead of whole hops but I'm sure some microbreweries are experimenting with them particularly in the copper, how else does the process differ?
Inbev do what is called "high gravity" brewing. To make the most of their tank size they brew a very strong beer and then water it down to the correct alcohol percentage, and then correct flavours with hop extracts and correct colour/malt character with malt extract. The new "Guiness Golden Ale" that's being promoted at the minute has been made for years, it's just guiness without a colour/malt correction at the end. An example from cider is strongbow and frosty jack's. They are made from the same source. Strongbow is just watered down a bit more with some tannins added to produce a bit more bite.
Inbev will also recycle waste from lots of sources to reclaim the fermentable sugar to lower production costs. One of these sources is the dregs in the bottom of all the kegs and casks they receive back from pubs. They just pasturise it and use it again.
"Craft" breweries will do none of the above. Except maybe Camden now they've been sold.
Also, when it comes to kegging, many smaller breweries will just use a filtration plant to remove the majority of the yeast. This means (contrary to what many people believe) keg beer from smaller breweries is still live. Inbev will use a high temp pasturisation.
Bearing in mind that these breweries are producing for a larger market and are thus not going to try and brew crazy tasting beer anyway, they want to brew beer (maybe deemed boring by some) that lots of people will drink - do these specific practices of reusing materials have a clearly demonstrable negative impact on the quality of the product?
Because if not then surely the defining feature of a craft brewery is that it is inefficient?
they want to brew beer........that lots of people will drink
Because if not then surely the defining feature of a craft brewery is that it is inefficient?
Studies have shown that branding has more influence than the actual beer when it comes to people's perception of quality.
they want to brew beer........that lots of people will drink
You've hit the nail on the head there. Most people don't give a shit what they drink as long as it's cheap and involved in some sort of sports sponsorship. Studies have shown that branding has more influence than the actual beer when it comes to people's perception of quality. In my opinion;
Acorn barnsley bitter is better than John Smith's
Punk IPA is better than Carling
Ilkley's Mary Jane is better than Greene King IPA
I would argue that when it comes to producing mass market beer, you cannot dis-entangle efficiency and bland-ness of character as drivers of the end product. I think "craft", although slightly pretentious by design, gets a bad rep due to it's association with hipster-dom.
However despite a brewery like Sierra Nevada being huge (Brewdog in 2015 was still less than 7% the size of SN) they still produce exceptional and consistent beer.
The key to Brewdog's success is in their marketing and timing. They explicitly tell their customers that if they don't like the beer then its because they're Tennent's Super swilling idiots. They play up their disagreements with CAMRA because it makes them look edgy and anti-establishment.
This at a time when trendy urban bars are rammed to the rafters with bearded Nathan Barleys who would drink anti-freeze and muse about the quartzy aftertaste and undertones of slaw if they saw that cool guy with the rad beard doing likewise.
Personally, I do like the Punk IPA but find a lot of the other stuff, and in fact quite a few other over-hopped horrors from different breweries, to be utterly undrinkable.
It could be five years, it could be fifteen years, but the craft beer fashion will blow over and at that point Brewdog will have to change or shrink significantly.
Inbev do what is called "high gravity" brewing. To make the most of their tank size they brew a very strong beer and then water it down to the correct alcohol percentage, and then correct flavours with hop extracts and correct colour/malt character with malt extract.
Ilkley do a lemongrass and ginger saison. The craft line is pretty blurred these days. When considering competitiveness of smaller breweries it is worth remembering that duty paid on beer is relative to production volume. Therefore smaller breweries can use more expensive ingredients without passing on that cost to customers/landlords.
When it comes to "craft" as a definition, i just find people use it as a shorthand to insult hipsters. If the beer is good, its good.
The term "Craft Beer" is largely without meaning (IMO) in the UK and despite it trying to be defined and also protected as a meaningful term, on the most part (maybe excluding London based breweries) it has lost its way. Everyone's opinion on what it means is somewhat different, should size matter? What about how the breweries start up costs were funded? Does everyone working there have to have a beard?
'Craft brewing' is a more encompassing term for developments in the industry succeeding the microbrewing movement of the later 20th century. The definition is not entirely consistent, but it typically applies to relatively small, independently-owned commercial breweries that employ traditional brewing methods
Yakima Valley made by Arbor Ales is just stunning. Arbor are another example of a good local brewery who started out doing real ales and have branched out into IPAs. They do both brilliantly with great variety.
Anyway, back on track.The back Isle blonde is a bit of a staple for me. I'd take a jackhammer or hardcore ipa over punk any day. As someone else mentioned, Sierra Nevada torpedo is very nice.
Been enjoying the Cairgorm Gold lately
http://www.cairngormbrewery.com/index.php?com=ecom&func=view&id=1
As well as Black Isle Red Kite. In fact not had a bad beer from there
http://www.blackislebrewery.com/beer/Red-Kite-Ale.html#.VtgerfmLRQI
no idea if these are classed as Kraft, Micro or Nano.
More Moor love from me. Shame I can't get hold of them in the barren beer wasteland around here.Whilst all the moor love is going round, realised the other day their new base is literally down the road from tca bristol. Sweet. Though not for my wallet or waist.
Tonight's sampling:
Founders Brewing Centennial IPA. Classic strong american IPA. Not like some recent UK pale ales which seem to be shit hidden by hops. Nice balance.
Fallen Brewing LocalMotive "Session IPA". Pretty decent - not too hoppy, decent malt. Lots of flavour for a 3.9%. Would like to try it from cask.
oooooo, guess no chance of us seeing that in the uk?
US Stone brewery
Real ale in cans Andy?
It's the White IPA from Pipes brewery in Cardiff: http://www.pipesbeer.co.uk/beers.html