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Title: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 09, 2007, 01:07:46 pm
I'd just like to say I've just booked my winter fortnight in Canada.  :great:

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 09, 2007, 02:24:08 pm
Where 'bouts? Good deal? We are currently throwing ideas about for a Cananad trip.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 09, 2007, 03:43:56 pm
Banff and Kicking Horse.  There's no such thing as a good deal unless you sleep on a mates floor I don't think but checked out package prices versus diy flight and accomodation also diy flight and rv rental.  Package deals win hands down.  Still bastard expensive though.

And thats before I consider booking the heli boarding, which as Bubbs will tell you may some 10 years later still be the reason for his current financially inclement position!

Just ring round loads and get them to do the hard work for you unless you've got a straight 7 or 14 nighter in which case the websites are bob on.  Prices for most companies go up next week though (15th) so be quick.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on November 09, 2007, 07:17:01 pm
Snowing in Whistler as we speak, and I flew over the rockies last week, and they are looking v. snowy.
Hope it's another good year - soooooo much snow last season!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 09, 2007, 07:23:56 pm
allegedly alberta resorts are already open!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on November 09, 2007, 08:31:24 pm

You lucky pup Nic :)

And thats before I consider booking the heli boarding, which as Bubbs will tell you may some 10 years later still be the reason for his current financially inclement position!
You're not wrong, i'm more than likely still paying for that trip...but fuck me, it was one of the best things i've ever done :) Whistler Mountain Heli i love you!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 09, 2007, 08:52:36 pm
Snowing in Whistler as we speak, and I flew over the rockies last week, and they are looking v. snowy.
Hope it's another good year - soooooo much snow last season!
Hell it snowed in Aberdeen last night*, why would I want Canada?







*Ok so it was a dusting, it froze onto the car, was a pain to shift and had melted by 11, but it's a start.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on November 09, 2007, 10:41:42 pm
 :dance1:
was eyeing up the canada package deals with envy on igluski.com, but can't justify it when i'm still a novice numpty, but was thinking france 3 valleys - either courchevel 1650 or meribel. Any beta on these or alternatives in the area?
Looking at the snow histories March seems like a safe bet for good snow cover, fingers crossed.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on November 10, 2007, 01:25:10 am

*Ok so it was a dusting, it froze onto the car, was a pain to shift and had melted by 11, but it's a start.

Get those edges sharpened!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2007, 11:27:11 am
Bowie, 3 Valleys is a great area. Meribel is in the middle valley so you have good access to the valleys either side, but is a very "british" resort (with all that brings). Courchevel is a nice place (i think we stayed in the Skibound chalet in 1650) with loads of good boarding, an ice climbing tower and a climbing wall in the shopping mall (take your own sport climbing kit). Bit dear though. I am a bit biased though as we had fantastic snow when we went.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on November 10, 2007, 12:52:10 pm

3 Valleys is excellent - vast area, huge variety with some superb off-piste. If you go then Norton Sharley will be able to point you at the best stuff coz he worked out there.

Serre Chevalier is very good too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on November 10, 2007, 01:46:20 pm
 :kiss1:
cheers for feedback guys - its a goer, will see what the package deals throw up.
psyched, rad, etc etc
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 11, 2007, 11:12:53 am
allegedly alberta resorts are already open!

Arapahoe basin has been open for 2 weeks already. Had one of my best 2 days in a row ever there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 12, 2007, 12:37:41 pm
:dance1:
was eyeing up the canada package deals with envy on igluski.com, but can't justify it when i'm still a novice numpty, but was thinking france 3 valleys - either courchevel 1650 or meribel. Any beta on these or alternatives in the area?
Looking at the snow histories March seems like a safe bet for good snow cover, fingers crossed.

Worked two seasons in Courchevel so feel qualified and obliged to provide beta and did ride stacks in the other valleys - Merible and Val Thorens.

Of the three valleys Courchevel is way the best for pistes but probably poorest for off piste unless you know what you are doing with respect to riding and avalanches.  C gets much less sun than M or VT so would be better in March.  VT is cheapest, highest and has some excellent easier off piste especially the 'fourth' valley Orielle (spelling?) and at La Masse.   IMHO Meribel is rubbish except for the Moon Park which is the best park I've been in in Europe and Mont Vallon.

Go for C 1650, its the cheapest and with the best bars and best cruising and jibbing terrain in the 3V.  La Tania is also cheap.  Consider any cheap package deals but remember you get what you paid for, ie lazy scum like me cooking your meals, for a bit more boarding orientated try Pleisure, bit overpriced but nice folks.

Also since you admit to being a punter book some lessons.  You won't regret it.  Don't even think about using anyone but RTM, the best snowboard teachers in the Alps!

Hope that helps...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 17, 2008, 04:51:07 pm
Anyone got any tips for Keystone? leave 2 weeks tomorrow. Contemplating Cat-skiing for a day (heliskiing for the poor)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 17, 2008, 05:19:31 pm
Not been there but just been looking at the stats.  I recommend you take oxygen masks for the altitude  :lol:

Cat-skiing is supposed to be great, and not for the poor.  For starters you get to drive a cat, or at least sit on the back, which is a lot more involved than sitting in a helicopter!

One week to go 'til Canada for me and five weeks 'til Cham.

Are you sure you don't need any new bindings Chris? 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 17, 2008, 09:28:37 pm
Cat-skiing is supposed to be great, and not for the poor.

ditto. it's brilliant, and not that cheap
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 18, 2008, 12:09:08 am
Cat-skiing is supposed to be great, and not for the poor.

(http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/funny-cat-13.jpg)

I know we've been here before, but a good gag is always worth repeating.


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 18, 2008, 09:11:35 am
nice pussy
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 18, 2008, 09:26:08 am
Not been there but just been looking at the stats.  I recommend you take oxygen masks for the altitude  :lol:

Cat-skiing is supposed to be great, and not for the poor.  For starters you get to drive a cat, or at least sit on the back, which is a lot more involved than sitting in a helicopter!

Are you sure you don't need any new bindings Chris? 

Working on CV fitness as we speak! Expecting headaches and trippy dreams for the first few nights.

They are giving prices of $200 for a day, and you don't need to pay for a liftpass and get lunch, which offsets the costs a bit. No idea how many runs you get for that though. Be fun if conditions are good.

And I am certain I don't need new bindings, ta.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on January 18, 2008, 02:37:27 pm
Going Mammoth in next month or so. Going to hit it when its at its best.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 18, 2008, 02:44:54 pm
What, last week? If you are Bishop based you can just head over for a day trip on powder days. Otherwise i wouldn't bother as it can get icy pretty quick (unless you are a park junkie). Also avoid if it is at all windy, I have experienced the worst winds i have ever boarded in there. And if an area is roped off due to volcanic activity, best not to enter! The smell should be enough to put you off anyway.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 18, 2008, 05:55:27 pm
Go anyway on rest days, get a "six pack and chips" on the way home and hit the hot springs in the desert.  Perfect.

Watch out for "the Dripper" though.

But wait Mick's left Bishop now.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 15, 2008, 06:38:27 am
I'm off to Cham...today! Oh, I am so excited  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 15, 2008, 10:16:13 am
I'm off to Cham...today! Oh, I am so excited  :bounce:
Mayrhofen on Sunday, get in!  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: dave on February 15, 2008, 10:19:45 am
nice one tobs. i've been to gayrhofen in summer its well brown round there. excellent bouldering too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2008, 10:35:29 am
Nice one people. My bro' just got back from Les Gets, said it has been good and cold in France, nice conditions. Keystone was top, fresh snow almost daily, some really windy days though. Did a couple of shuttle runs in the snowcat, access to some good bowls with great snow. Some of the best tree runs I have done anywhere too. Couple of day trips to Breckenridge and Arapahoe Basin.

Colorado is having a great snow year. Wolf Creek has almost reached its usual impressive season average of 460 inches already! 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 15, 2008, 01:27:45 pm
i've been to gayrhofen in summer its well brown round there.
The name of our Chalet is 'Stoanerhof' which made me chuckle.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2008, 01:50:40 pm
I would be hoping it was well white. If it was brown you would be screwed.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 27, 2008, 11:56:37 am
Well, Chamonix valley was very spring-like. Sunshine every day, only a light dusting of new snow one night which was very localised. The afternoon snow on low, sunny slopes was excellent for boarding - proper spring snow changing to wet sugar (still fun) at the end of the day. High up, the snow was staying light and powdery, but well tracked - best decent was Rectaligne (narrower than I expected for this time of year, but light snow especially on left as always) and then over to Dru Rognon (always nice). I was shocked to see how much the glaciers have receeded over the last 20 years. Getting down to the MDG from the slope below the Dru Rognon and Pas de Chevre is a pain, but walking up the other side to the Buvette is even worse.
Spent most of my time getting better at skiing, but getting on a board again felt brilliant  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 28, 2008, 12:13:10 pm
last week we were mostly ripping up the pistes of the Zillertal valley, here for example was my last 12mile run of the the week (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&start=257&num=200&msa=0&msid=109878796301111833972.000446f8153ebf8385990&ll=47.09689,11.666622&spn=0.036811,0.097847&t=h&z=14). Snow wasn't good enough for much fun off piste, but it didn't stop us doing more than 30km of vertical descent. (according to the lift pass print out). Map looks more impressive on Google Earth, pivoted to see terrain.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on February 28, 2008, 12:36:08 pm
Snow wasn't good enough for much fun off piste, but it didn't stop us doing more than 30km of vertical descent.

It looks non-existent for half of it :P
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 01, 2008, 08:34:52 am
Just when I thought another year would pass by without seeing some powder. BANG!! A 1 week road trip to La Plagne turns up. Super SUPER psyched for this.

Right cheap too. We've got a 6 bed apartment cabin with doorstep skiing for £228 between the four of us. Can't go wrong at that price and the snow levels are amazing.

:bounce:  :beer2:

Anyone thinking about a last minute ski trip I can direct you to some pretty good deals.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on April 01, 2008, 08:54:42 am
had a week in les arc a couple of weeks ago and it was fantastic snow.
my first powder experience :dance1:
amazing fun. although i found that the incessant giggling after falling over in powder soon gave way to "oh my god this is hard work getting up and i feel like an upturned turtle"
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2008, 09:21:18 am
4 foot forecast for Scotland early next week.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 01, 2008, 10:53:17 am
"oh my god this is hard work getting up and i feel like an upturned turtle"

If I get completely wedged in on my back and can't get up I have some proper issues trying to unclip my flow bindings. I either have to dig enough room behind my leg to unclip or do in inverted squat and then struggle to reach the clip. Neither way is easy but both have me in stitches especially when I'm knackered.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2008, 10:57:42 am
Only way to get up in deep powder is to roll onto your knees facing uphill. Anything else is just about impossible. I have found that once you go over 4 feet of fresh carrying a short telescopic ski pole is the only way to get upright again.

Also flows are not ideal for getting into or out of in deep snow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 01, 2008, 11:23:54 am
I'd forgotten about clipping back in with the flows. Gotta do it on my knees. Still I get a 100 hundred start every run on the regular bindings.  8)

Four foot of fresh powder. Hmmm I reckon I'd thrash about for 5 minutes and then think about digging in for the winter.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2008, 11:52:00 am
Yes but what you make up for clipping in you lose due to lack of control and reduced speed!

Had to contend with 6 ft of fresh once, pretty challenging. Sadly wasn't good really dry powder though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 01, 2008, 12:21:52 pm
I've not really noticed much of a difference in control or speed but then I'm nothing more than an intermediate. Looked for reviews on the flows. Most appear favourable with some exceptions regarding the build quality (sounded like the guy was mangling screws of a daily basis), lack of snugness, take a long time to mount/adjust. I take it you have used the flows?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on April 01, 2008, 01:01:17 pm
The mate I spent a week in Mayrhofen started the week raving about his new state of the art Flows, then proceeded to spend all week tweaking them, and finished the week ranting about how much of a pain they were and how quickly he was going to ebay them when he got home. I think I was quickest off the chair every time but one all week. Didn't really sell them to me, but not sure he got the hang of them, are you supposed to stay standing up whilst clipping in or knee forward? Either way doesn't make sense to me.  :-\
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2008, 01:04:53 pm
I had conventional two strap bindings on my old board then when i was shopping around tried out a friend's Flows for two days (don't know which model) and no matter how much I fiddled around with setting I just couldn't get them as tight as I was used to. Felt almost OK on piste, but as soon as I was in fresh snow, and especially riding tight trees where back foot control was required, it just felt like the whole board was wallowing underfoot. I ended up buying some Drake Mikey Le Blanc bindings, which are quite sturdy bindings, but gave me the control I was looking for. I have done about 100 plus full days on these bindings now, and had to replace one clip and ladder. If you learn to strap in while standing it takes no longer with conventional bindings than Flows.

My 5p worth anyway. i daresay Flows may have improved since 2003, but the fundemental flaws in principle still remain.    
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 01, 2008, 01:37:25 pm
The mate I spent a week in Mayrhofen started the week raving about his new state of the art Flows, then proceeded to spend all week tweaking them, and finished the week ranting about how much of a pain they were and how quickly he was going to ebay them when he got home. I think I was quickest off the chair every time but one all week. Didn't really sell them to me, but not sure he got the hang of them, are you supposed to stay standing up whilst clipping in or knee forward? Either way doesn't make sense to me.  :-\

I usually clip in while standing or on the move.  8)
The tweaking thing I don't get. Usually sort it all out first day and then just check every so often that nothing has come loose.

especially riding tight trees where back foot control was required, it just felt like the whole board was wallowing underfoot.
Maybe I just don't notice the difference now I've been on em for so long (and I won't riding tight trees again after I bottled a tight chicane and used my knee as a brake on possibly the biggest tree I could find (could blame the flows  ::))) . Might have to get some conventional strap bindings to compare to. Do you use the two strap bindings which wrap over and encase the toes? Not sure what the difference is between those and regular two strap bindings.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2008, 02:09:43 pm
They are toecap bindings. No i dont use them, but have heard they are excellent. Unfortunately I don't think they can be retrofitted to my old bindings. They pull your toes in as well as down, but need to fit your boot really well to be at all effective. Will definitely check them out if I need some new ones.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 01, 2008, 09:54:06 pm
Quote
4 foot forecast for Scotland early next week

Had a great day making fresh tracks down the back bowl at Aonach Mor on sunday. Big cornice made for an intimidating drop in though. Really good, didn't think I'd be getting out at all this year, great snow up high, nice and sheltered out back. That makes 7 days in 6 years I think - was surprised how well I was going to be honest. How do you rate the other scottish areas Chris, I've  only been to Cairngorm and Aonach?

On the flow tip, I've got the Burton step-ins, do they even make them any more? I really rate them, got them cos I'm always out with unsympathetic skiers, instant click in, you can even do it going off the chairlift without stopping. Its a long time since I've used owt else mind...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on April 01, 2008, 10:35:00 pm

I love Flow bindings.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 02, 2008, 08:00:29 am
On the flow tip, I've got the Burton step-ins, do they even make them any more? I really rate them, got them cos I'm always out with unsympathetic skiers, instant click in, you can even do it going off the chairlift without stopping. Its a long time since I've used owt else mind...

Tried these once on a hire board a good few years back. The only thing I remember is having to dig ice from the bindings so my boot would clip in properly. I was only just starting out so can't really comment on feel, performance etc.

A few friends visited Glen Shiels (sp?) for a few days and really enjoyed it. I think they didn't expect much and so were quite surprised.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 02, 2008, 08:39:01 am

How do you rate the other scottish areas Chris, I've  only been to Cairngorm and Aonach?

On the flow tip, I've got the Burton step-ins, do they even make them any more? I really rate them, got them cos I'm always out with unsympathetic skiers, instant click in, you can even do it going off the chairlift without stopping. Its a long time since I've used owt else mind...
I never really use the actual resorts as they are usually too crowded and the lifts a bit limiting, prefer to go ski touring. Locally Glenshee has by far the best terrain, with the front of Glas Maol offering some great long steep off pite runs, but it's unfortunately the most sheltered and has a poor snow record. Lecht is shite and dull if you are just using lifts, the Ladder Hills in the are have good ski touring though. Loads of people rave about the challenging terrain on offer at Glencoe, but never actually been there myself. Overall Nevis Range and Cairngorm are probably bets though. I know some of the gullies on Lochnagar got skied last weekend, conditions look superb (vid on youtube)

Some good info on these sites as well as for off piste stuff

http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/freeride/guide/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/freeride/guide/index.php)
http://www.winterhighland.info/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/)
http://www.haggistrap.co.uk/ (http://www.haggistrap.co.uk/) got to love the name.

The 4 feet was a poor April Fool attempt by the way, although fresh snow is forecast I doubt it will be that much (sorry).

I have tried the step in bindings too (they were standard hire kit at the resort where I worked) but also found they had a bit of toe and heel lift when working the board really hard. Also see icing comment, I remember sever occasions when people got to the top of the chair lift with the board hanging from the safety strap, having not clipped it in properly. I also think there is a bit of a hassle trying to get the bindings clear to clip in properly in deep snow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 02, 2008, 09:33:48 am
PS the West Coast resorts are claiming the best snow conditions since 2001 at the moment, but grab it now, I think a big thaw is coming.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on April 02, 2008, 09:42:21 am
A few friends visited Glen Shiels (sp?) for a few days and really enjoyed it. I think they didn't expect much and so were quite surprised.

I mean Glenshee.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 02, 2008, 11:02:54 am
I guessed as much!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on April 02, 2008, 04:46:30 pm
what's the snow in McScotland likely to be like this coming weekend?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 03, 2008, 08:13:10 am
The http://www.mwis.org.uk/ (http://www.mwis.org.uk/) forecast (will update tonight for Sunday) is for it be be getting cold and snowy again tomorrow and over the weekend, but also with a bit of wind, more so in the N and E. We might be heading to Fort William / Glencoe, which seems the better bet for snow cover and weather, but if we do, will also take winter climbing gear in case it's a bit pants for skiing. See also http://www.winterhighland.info/weather/  (http://See also http://www.winterhighland.info/weather/)  http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/)

Black Spout and Red Gully on Lochnagar were skied on Sunday, see vid on youtube. Boarding Black Spout is still one of my ambitions.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 04, 2008, 08:19:09 am
In fact scratch that, not a weekend for snowboarding, unless you were coming up for something else, and keen to spend a few hours. Thaw yesterday and cold today, so it will be icy with fresh snow (in form of blizzards) arriving tomorrow, accompanied by possible thunder and lightning. Get the bike out on the low lying trails or have fun at the Ice Factor. Give it a week, I reckon might be good next weekend.

(my interpretation anyway).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 09, 2008, 04:46:34 pm
If anyone is keen on one last blast for the year, i would consider heading up. Conditions are looking superb.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on April 09, 2008, 06:01:58 pm
If anyone is keen on one last blast for the year, i would consider heading up. Conditions are looking superb.
Only moderate sheets of ice and 40 knot winds?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 10, 2008, 08:09:04 am
har har, cynic.
Have a look at the cams and tell me where the ice is http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php) (well apart from lecht, which is usually shit).

It may not be Whistler conditions, but for Scotland it's as good as you will get.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on April 10, 2008, 08:45:25 pm
har har, cynic.
Have a look at the cams and tell me where the ice is http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php) (well apart from lecht, which is usually shit).

It may not be Whistler conditions, but for Scotland it's as good as you will get.
This one looks in good nick  ;)
(http://freespace.virgin.net/kings.house/image.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 11, 2008, 08:04:32 am
That's Bauchaille Etive Mor, not a ski resort (but I suspect you knew that).

Plus I'm pretty sure that cam is out of action, has shown that same pic since January. Compare it to the Glencoe one about 2 miles away and the same height.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on April 11, 2008, 06:02:43 pm
That's Bauchaille Etive Mor, not a ski resort (but I suspect you knew that).



Aye.

Here's an idea of how much snow we had this year - trees on the hill close to where I live.
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_LGS6FdKHlLU/R6aw84XfSRI/AAAAAAAAALo/AAz-vITl3zE/s320/snowy+trees.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on June 28, 2008, 06:24:12 pm

I love Flow bindings.

Ask any competent instructor and they will tell you Flow bindings are pants not as good as trad bindings for control or movement using modern techniques.

And modern bindings are so comfy what do you need Flows for anyway?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on June 28, 2008, 06:32:57 pm

To a punter like me who in a good year might see 2 weeks of snow, it doesn't really matter if they're the best for control :)

The last time I used trad bindings, they hurt like hell but I'm sure things have moved on a bit now. I also like the easy step in/step out that flows give you, but I bet things have moved on in that dept too?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on June 30, 2008, 08:50:53 am
I started writing a witty response, and then decided it was probably best not to ....  :kiss2:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on June 30, 2008, 08:52:12 am
Flows can't be all that bad. Antti Autti seems to do alright in them. Although mine were hurting alot last time I used them.

Looking to upgrade my board, boots and bindings for this coming season. Currently running entry level board and boots (Burton Clash 162 and 32 Exus boots) with Flow Pro 11 bindings. Had these for over 5 years and I've been boarding for 8. Currently very much at the intermediate level. Comfortable on red runs and some blacks and on small to medium jumps. Generally I prefer freeriding to freestyling though.

Although I've enjoyed the flows I'll be looking to move back to trad bindings. I'm thinking about a Burton Custom with Burton toe bindings, which probably means buying Burton boots too. This idea is based on the fact I like Burton boards but generally have little idea about whether they are good or not. Compound this with my level of knowledge about other brands and I'm virtually a novice.

So anyone got any tips or advice about Burton or can you recommend I look at any other brands.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on June 30, 2008, 10:08:09 am
You don't have to buy Burton boots to go with Burton bindings?

My thoughts on Burton. I thonk the boards are good, but not particularly exciting. Well made but seem to go for look over functionality and as such but don't seem to wear very well (topsheet seems to chip etc). However, of the 4 I have owned 3 are still being used, so can't be that bad. Custom is a good board, but pretty expensive for what they are. Conside Ride and Roam as possible options. I Also think the boots are pretty good, I have a pair of "Freestyle" (mid level) boots from 2002, which I have used for about 100 plus days and they are showing no signs of giving up (apart from laces). However I do not like the bindings at all. I have totally avoided the bindings based on recommendatios from people i worked with who showed me theirs and all the bits that had broken off. Rowie went for a set of Lexas a couple of years ago and bits fell off within the first week. The capstraps (toecap) look like a good idea, but they are not the only manufacturer that makes them. Look at any binding that has decent metal buckles, fits the boots well and has a good range of adjustability, and wide comfortable straps. ( I have a pair of Drakes that I really like). 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on June 30, 2008, 12:40:29 pm
Firstly you can use any type of strap in binding with any type of boot, just as long as the boots fit inside the binding  ::)

The best boots to get are ones that fit your feet.  I have short fat feet so Vans and 32's fit me well.  Forget about the branding and just buy something that fits really well.  I suffer with collapsed arches, or rather lack of strength in that muscle across my arches, and so I use custom made footbeds.  These are the sole ( :P) cause of the biggest increase in boot comfort I've ever had, so much so that I now always wear custom footbeds for snowboarding and mtb'ing.  If you think you need custom footbeds get them made up first then go and try on new boots with them.  If you are genuinely more into freeriding that freestyle you probably want a slightly stiffer boot for cranking round those edge carves.  And lastly on boots, never ever let a ski shop heat fit your boots.  The ovens used for ski boots are way too hot for snowboard boots and wreck the inners.

As far as boards go most people forget to fit the board to their foot length.  In other words stand on the board in your regular stance and make sure that your feet neither overhang too much or don't reach the edges.  Obviously this is best done in your preferred boots.  The best way to buy a board has to be to try it on snow in resort by hiring a test board for a day.  I don't think you can go too far wrong with major brand boards but personally I would recommend a look at Sapient.  imho I don't like Ride, do like Burton (but the Custom is a bit lacking in pop) and the best board I have ever owned was a Lib Tech.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Control freak on July 01, 2008, 11:08:04 pm
I have a sapient board and I cant say theres been anything wrong with it. Got a pair of Cartel bindings last year as well which I must say are pretty awesome - theyre alot stiffer than say a freestyle and took a little bit of getting used to.

Thankfully the snows just arrived here so its off to the slopes this weekend  ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: eteve on July 02, 2008, 01:07:00 am
lib tech boards are unreal. they have a system on the edges that instead of being straight the edges are cut wiggly and so the theory goes that on ice as you turn you have seven points of contact(each wiggle) rather than 2 (the front and back of the edge). i tested a board and it really works well on ice. on powder it makes no difference as you dont really use edges so much. if i bought another board would definatly have this technology i think all boards will have this or something similar soon. but for the moment only lib teck and gnu have it check it out.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on July 02, 2008, 07:35:24 am

My brand new libtech lasted about 10 days before having an edge / rock incident that has probably been terminal :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 02, 2008, 11:53:26 am
I'm not convinced other manufacturers will follow the magne traction route. I spoke to a couple of people who have ridden them and reports are mixed from "great" to "makes no difference" to "slow". Time will tell, but I am, at this stage, unconvinced as to wether it is revolutionary or a gimmick. For the moment my money will stay in the bank. Full marks to them for trying sometihng different though.

http://www.lib-tech.com/magneTraction/index.html (http://www.lib-tech.com/magneTraction/index.html)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on July 02, 2008, 01:09:36 pm
Thanks for the information guys (you'll be suitably wadded when I have more time).

I've never even heard of Sapient or LibTech so just goes to show how things have changed since I started snowboarding and the only brands I knew were. Burton, Ride, Osin, Blackwood (?), K2 and Salomon (knew them cos they made ski's too). I think I should punter myself at this point (if I could)

I'm going to get stuck into some research and narrow down my options.

I'd not considered hiring a test board. This is definately a good idea.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on July 02, 2008, 05:40:38 pm
What is this 'ice' of which you speak?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 02, 2008, 08:27:29 pm
Like the slopes in Whistler never get icy.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on July 02, 2008, 09:34:33 pm
They may do, but you can never see it under all the snow.......
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: eteve on July 03, 2008, 01:05:06 am
try it. it works.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 03, 2008, 08:08:45 am
Trouble is if it's at all icy I break out skis.

Have you made a direct comparison between a brand new MT board and a brand new well tuned and edged conventional board?

Thing with a wave formation is thet for every one of the 7 "point" of contact there has to be a low point that will have less contact.

Also not sure what the tuning shops will make of them.

Be interesting to see over the next few years what happens.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on July 03, 2008, 08:41:57 am
As far as boards go most people forget to fit the board to their foot length.  In other words stand on the board in your regular stance and make sure that your feet neither overhang too much or don't reach the edges. 

 :agree: If you take a size 11 boot or bigger you will find that some boards are too narrow. It can be quite annoying when you feel those toes dragging through the hard-pack and ruining your carve, dumping speed and loosing a bit of balance. There can be quite a difference in the length of boots that fit the same foot size - so if you have big feet it can be worth comparing different brands of boot and choosing the one that fits and has the shortest length - this will give you a greater choice of which boards will work for you (thus increasing the number of board-owning mates from whom you can borrow a board  :thumbsup: )
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 03, 2008, 09:27:23 am
Or just go for wide / midwide boards for that added float in powder. If you have big feet you may as well make the most of them! You can also get risers if you are dragging toes, but that raises the CoG a bit.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on July 03, 2008, 08:43:06 pm
I've always wondered; what is it like for little-footed folk to use a wide board? I mean, us big-footed blokes have to suffer a slightly slower edge to edge transition, but does it make any difference to the wee ones? I can sort of see the leverage on the foot being different, but can you feel it? I've never tried having small feet...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 03, 2008, 10:20:22 pm
no idea either. guess you will have to really throw your weight around to get it on an edge. Remember waving arms from side to side when you were learning? Might see if i can convince rowena to have a go on my 168 wide at some point.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on July 03, 2008, 11:07:13 pm
no idea either. guess you will have to really throw your weight around to get it on an edge. Remember waving arms from side to side when you were learning? Might see if i can convince rowena to have a go on my 168 wide at some point.
I have regular size 8.5 feet and had a go on my neighbour's wide board - never again - surprisingly difficult to transition quickly from edge to edge.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on July 04, 2008, 07:01:40 am
Might see if i can convince rowena to have a go on my 168 wide at some point.
That's just cruel.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 06, 2008, 01:26:32 pm
Oke dokey, it's getting to that time of year again when I need to book this years' snowboard holidays.

Anyone got any experience of cat skiing anywhere?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on October 06, 2008, 01:34:09 pm
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg189/marnold77/funny-cat-ski.jpg)

sorry  :-[
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on October 06, 2008, 01:42:18 pm
Not sure about cat skiing but I reckon meeting the owner of the footprint on the slopes would certainly add extra adrenaline to your day out.

(http://www.piste-off.com/equipment-and-technical/images/compass-and-puma-footprint.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 06, 2008, 01:59:27 pm
That's one seriously small compass. Or one big pussy.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on October 06, 2008, 02:02:23 pm
Anyone got any experience of cat skiing anywhere?

Fernie. Canada. Awesome. Book it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on October 06, 2008, 02:03:29 pm
A Puma in British Columbia. Found the picture under miscellaneous on a skiing off piste list of dangers!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 06, 2008, 02:11:19 pm
Revelstoke is getting loads of publicity at the moment for great offpiste / cat / heli combined trips.

A lot of US resorts now offer in bounds cat-skiing for little or no money. We did it at Keystone earlier in the year ($5 a trip), saves a long walk. I know Copper and Winter Park do it for free, and I think Crested Butte too. I would love to get to Silverton in Southern Colorado - one chairlift, no marked trails, no groomers, no facilities, no patrol. I think you don't even need a guide anymore, provided you are suitably tooled up.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 07, 2008, 05:46:30 pm
Was looking for a bit more than free cat skiing in resort Chris.  Will either go on McNab stupidity in Chamonix or full on in the middle of nowhere cat skiing from a lodge.  Silverton sounds interesting though, will do some more research on that one.

Lagers, you're a  :wank:  and should really receive -ve karma for using a picture already posted on ukb  ;D ;D 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 07, 2008, 08:22:10 pm
Was looking for a bit more than free cat skiing in resort Chris.  

Then Revel(stoke) in your time. Has the option of some pretty good looking resort skiing for days when the cat - skiing is not possible due to avalanche conditions or suffering with poor vis.

http://www.revelstokemountainresort.com/ (http://www.revelstokemountainresort.com/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on October 09, 2008, 05:43:37 pm
ok - ideas please. i am having my stag do next year, a week's boarding/skiing in the french alps. 10-12 people, mixed ability, some uber wads, some punters. needs good night life, high resort and self catering for that many. any ideas on best location? les arc last season was fantastic but looking for somewhere new. cheers folks
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on October 09, 2008, 06:00:19 pm
You couldn't go far wrong with Trois Vallees (preferably Meribel for that full 'Blackpool by the Snow' feeling) or Espace Killy (Val D'Isere/Tignes). Both have  vast amount and variety of terrain, and more bars than you can shake a ski pole at.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on October 09, 2008, 06:03:53 pm
Was looking for a bit more than free cat skiing in resort Chris.  Will either go on McNab stupidity in Chamonix or full on in the middle of nowhere cat skiing from a lodge.  Silverton sounds interesting though, will do some more research on that one.

Lagers, you're a  :wank:  and should really receive -ve karma for using a picture already posted on ukb  ;D ;D  

This is where you need to go http://www.whitegrizzly.com/# (http://www.whitegrizzly.com/#)

Friends have been there and say nothing else compares. They have gone back quite a few times too.

I have skiied with McNab in Chamonix, and that was great too, but I don't think that it would be quite the same as White Grizzly!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 09, 2008, 08:57:12 pm
http://www.whitegrizzly.com/# (http://www.whitegrizzly.com/#)   hehe. 

you up for something like that tim?

rode over the valley at Kicking Horse this year so I know how good the snow is and am tempted but it is b****d expensive
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 09, 2008, 08:59:32 pm
And I would suggest 1650 as the cheapest in Courchevel and some of the best riding in Trois Vallees Bowie.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on October 10, 2008, 12:51:05 pm
http://www.whitegrizzly.com/# (http://www.whitegrizzly.com/#)   hehe.  

you up for something like that tim?

rode over the valley at Kicking Horse this year so I know how good the snow is and am tempted but it is b****d expensive

We've just booked 2 weeks in Park City, hopefully get plenty of powder without the vast price tag. Won't be quite the same as White Grizzly, but there are a couple of Catski and Heli operations there that we'll have some days with. Maybe next year for White Grizzly....

Actually, you might have to check that they will even take snowboarders, I'm pretty sure that my mates said that they wouldn't take snowboarders and skiers in the same group.

And I would suggest 1650 as the cheapest in Courchevel and some of the best riding in Trois Vallees Bowie.

Completely agree with this from a skiing point of view, 1650 is definitely my favourite part of the 3 Vallees, but perhaps not so great from a party point of view as Meribel, Val D'Isere etc.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 10, 2008, 02:15:14 pm

We've just booked 2 weeks in Park City, hopefully get plenty of powder without the vast price tag. Won't be quite the same as White Grizzly, but there are a couple of Catski and Heli operations there that we'll have some days with.


Nice. Some good back country stuff in the Wasach, so take your AT skis (or snowshoes if boarding) and Avo gear and go discover. Can get a guide for the day if you want. And avoid Deer Valley and Alta if you are boarding. Twats.

Do they have wierd drinking laws in the ski resorts too?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 13, 2008, 12:54:34 pm

Actually, you might have to check that they will even take snowboarders, I'm pretty sure that my mates said that they wouldn't take snowboarders and skiers in the same group.

[\quote]

F**k them then, bigotted bloody skiers.

Park City sounds and looks fantastic.  Lucky you Tim

Missed the bit about the stag do Bowie, Meribel will probably be the best for night life, there's only really 3 bars in 1650, and you and me can't afford to go to 1850 like tlr and sa chris  ;)

Also worth a think about would be;
Avoriaz / Morzine (stay in latter, good partying, varied terrain, short transfer / driveable)
Serre Chevalier (cheap, loads of terrain, and a big town to go drinking in)
Italy - cheap

You'll need to book early to get a whole s/c chalet.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 13, 2008, 01:54:27 pm
When I went we stayed in 1550! Bottom of the lot. Great getting from 1850 to 1550 on a "borrowed" toboggans at midnight under a full moon, after a session though. I think we were lucky to do it without breaking anything.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on October 13, 2008, 06:33:17 pm

Actually, you might have to check that they will even take snowboarders, I'm pretty sure that my mates said that they wouldn't take snowboarders and skiers in the same group.

[\quote]

F**k them then, bigotted bloody skiers.


I don't think that its because they are bigoted, I guess its just a case of incompatibility. Boarders can't cross flat ground at the same speed as skiers can pole across it even with snow shoes. When clients are paying ££££s for the days skiing they don't want to wait for boarders to take the board off, put snow shoe on,walk across, take snow shoes off, put board back on etc.

I'd have thought that if you booked the whole lodge for the week then you could do what you want and they would happily guide you. But I get the impression that they usually have more than one group staying at the lodge.

All a moot point anyway as there are boarders and skiers in this White Grizzly video http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXu9NAHj98 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXu9NAHj98)

And if you can afford White Grizzly then you can afford Courcheval 1850!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 14, 2008, 01:25:54 pm
Mate, if I pay for a week's snow catting I don't expect to walk across flat bits on either skiis or a board  :)

Chris - you forgot 1350 (Le Praz) which is clearly lower than 1550 !  And La Tania which is at 1450.  Apart from that good adding up.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 14, 2008, 01:40:03 pm
I know about them but not being Courchevel, they don't count.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 15, 2008, 12:26:11 pm
er, how are they not Courchevel?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 15, 2008, 12:41:33 pm
Er, they are Le Praz and La Tania?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 16, 2008, 04:12:12 pm
But they are part of the Courchevel lift system. :whistle:

This is getting too UKC  :(

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 16, 2008, 10:32:16 pm
So Meribel is part of Mottaret?

Indeed.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 28, 2008, 01:19:43 pm
4-6" at Lecht. They are preparing to open by weekend if it continues. Mad one.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 28, 2008, 01:25:47 pm
I'm surprised you're not calling it Cairngorm 900 Chris  :P
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 28, 2008, 02:08:24 pm
Tenuous.

At best ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 12, 2008, 12:42:23 pm
I'm off to Argentiere next Friday for a week of chilling out. It's snowing a bit at the mo, so if I am extremely lucky there might be enough of a base for them to open some of the Gand Montets lifts the weekend of 22/23 November.

I would appreciate it if everyone could do their own snow dance or whatever other snow-inducing rituals you have in order to increase my chances of getting a day or two of riding.

Thanks for your efforts

Lagers


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 18, 2008, 10:46:31 am
From the ukB Group on Vimeo

http://vimeo.com/groups/UKBouldering/videos/1804533 (http://vimeo.com/groups/UKBouldering/videos/1804533)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 18, 2008, 10:52:15 am
That weakening pound is scuppering my ambitious 40th birthday boarding plans one by one. The Russiian Heliskiing was downgraded to a Canada trip, then a weekin a chalet in Europe. If it carries on it will be a weekend in Braemar.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 18, 2008, 12:19:52 pm
So we are off xmas and New Year for a trip. We are after cheap, quiet as possible, good off piste exploring, but still good piste stuff. Not bothered about a park. Needs to be this side of the Atlantic. Any fresh ideas?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 18, 2008, 01:09:12 pm
I find if you want a package you are limited in your options to the well known spots. However if you book an apartment, flight, and transfer / car hire seperately you have many more options.

I'm still not convinced by total reliability over Xmas / NY, especially for off piste stuff, so go for somewhere reasonably high. Also prices and crowds increase for that year.

Looks like it could be interesting, but have heard there are some slow lifts. This is not a major problem though if you are just using lifts for access off-piste stuff.

http://winter.les-sybelles.com/index-hiver_uk.aspx (http://winter.les-sybelles.com/index-hiver_uk.aspx)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 20, 2008, 06:10:20 pm
If it was my money over Xmas and NY with your criteria my top three resorts would be:

Bourg St Mourice (cheap since it's a proper town), maybe drive there so you can get to Val d'Isere / Tignes for high up snow, or if it has chucked it down ( :lol: :lol: :lol:) then go to St. Foy which is freeride heaven.

Cervinia - the Italian side of the Matterhorn / Zermatt resorts which is cheap to stay at but has great year round glacier skiing so you are guaranteed some riding.

Deux Alps - as Cervinia but more expensive.


However based on the last few years' you'll be doing the same couple of runs all week on manmade wherever you go.

And as for Lagers optimism in the opening of the Gr Montets before Christmas can I please have some of whatever pills you're taking mate?   :kiss2:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 20, 2008, 06:15:45 pm

And as for Lagers optimism in the opening of the Gr Montets before Christmas can I please have some of whatever pills you're taking mate?   :kiss2:

They opened for weekends from the end of November last year, but my optimism is a bit wild.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 24, 2008, 12:39:35 pm
Looks like you are right and I are wrong.  Flegere was open this weekend and Grands Montets is likely to open next weekend, according to some Cham locals.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 24, 2008, 01:42:15 pm
At the count of 3 get psyched lagers!

1, 2 3 ..........
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 24, 2008, 03:03:03 pm
NS, have you seen this site; http://catskiing.ca/Cat-Skiing-Operators/ (http://catskiing.ca/Cat-Skiing-Operators/)

Some good sounding spots.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 24, 2008, 04:00:59 pm
Top find Chris, but it will be next year (2010) before I get to Canada again.

Anyone know any good cheap accomodation in Verbier or Saas Fe ?

How are those Scottish 'resorts' coming along for snow?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 24, 2008, 04:24:10 pm
Lecht opened 2 lifts again today. cams showing Cairngorm pretty white, but I think it is cosmetic with no real base, which Lecht can get away with as there are no rocks there. Sadly forecast is for a mild spell with high wind and rain later in the week, so no chance to get out really. Plus I am in Londinium for the weekend.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 29, 2008, 07:23:42 pm
Yes, yes, fucking YES! as they say round these parts. The lifts might not have been running during the week, but I've had some top snowshoe-powered action . In case you want to see what conditions have been like this week, have a look at this... (nowt to do with me, but filmed in the same general area at the time I was out shredding up the slopes LagerStyle)

http://vimeo.com/groups/UKBouldering/videos/2376225 (http://vimeo.com/groups/UKBouldering/videos/2376225)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 01, 2008, 08:19:29 am
Nice. How long you there for? I know the lifts at Les Gets are running on weekends (as of weekend gone) , 'bout an hour and some from Argentiere though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 01, 2008, 12:08:43 pm
Nice. How long you there for?

Unfortunately I am no longer there.  :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 01, 2008, 12:17:25 pm

Anyone know any good cheap accomodation in Verbier or Saas Fe ?


No, but I did speak to some folk who said that the off piste at Saas Fe was in better condition than at Verbier at the mo. Saas Fe apparantly has a good base under the recent snow, while at Verbier people are still scraping rocks.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 15, 2008, 10:58:18 am
(http://www.scomuir.com/scoweb/pictures/images/glenshee_131208_3.jpg)

Not snowboarding, but shows snow cover on Glenshee on Saturday. Rain in Carpark, sleet at top of Sunnyside, snow from there up. Cover is good, but snow slushy and wet. Hopefully it will freeze up or get pisted to a good base, for more to follow.

(http://www.scomuir.com/scoweb/pictures/images/glenshee_131208_4.jpg)

Descent was hazardous - poor vis, wet snow, and a lot of scoured drops that were invisible until after you went over them.

Fun day out though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 15, 2008, 09:35:04 pm

Not snowboarding, but shows snow cover on Glenshee on Saturday. Rain in Carpark, sleet at top of Sunnyside, snow from there up. Cover is good, but snow slushy and wet. Hopefully it will freeze up or get pisted to a good base, for more to follow.

Descent was hazardous - poor vis, wet snow, and a lot of scoured drops that were invisible until after you went over them.

Fun day out though.

"A usual Scottish winter day" would probably have sufficed?  ;D  Good to see snow there though and good effort on getting out.  We have currently, or rather currencyly, sacked off booking a second winter trip for the moment and intend to make a return back north for some of those Scottish Conditions.  Glenshee looks like the best by far, you been anywhere else yet Chris?

I might even persuade the mighty Bubbs out of retirement?  8)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 15, 2008, 10:27:30 pm
Not been anywhere else, but mates were at Lecht on Saturday and reported similar cover. Cairngorm have got a bit open, but not much happening at Nevis or Glencoe, as weather systems seem to be predominantly from NE.

http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/)

http://ski.visitscotland.com/ (http://ski.visitscotland.com/)

We haven't even booked a first winter trip yet, all a bit depressing. Might have to something last minute, once we have an idea what the money is doing.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 17, 2008, 02:42:26 pm
Looks like some bargain holidays in Whistler soon to be available.

Gondola tower collapses.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081217.BCGONDOLA17/TPStory/National (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081217.BCGONDOLA17/TPStory/National)

Luckily no injuries

Quote
A statement from Intrawest last night said the gondola's last safety inspection had been within the past six months.

I bet there is a serious shitstorm about this somewhere.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 17, 2008, 03:02:15 pm
If anyone is driving up to any of the Scottish resorts from Sheffield this winter I'd be up for sharing fuel & driving if you have space.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on December 17, 2008, 03:34:52 pm
How long for? Weekend?

Do you have wheels? My car isn't the most practical for long trips but could be done.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 17, 2008, 03:57:31 pm
If anyone is driving up to any of the Scottish resorts from Sheffield this winter I'd be up for sharing fuel & driving if you have space.  :thumbsup:

Lagers be sure to give us a headsup if you do. Will hopefully be vanned up by January.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 18, 2008, 11:21:31 am
Do I have wheels?

(http://i37.tinypic.com/1zvaf5l.jpg)

Plenty of room for boys and boards (up to 7 of each at a squeeze). Not the best MPG, but LPG is less than 50p/litre.


If conditions look good I'm up for a weekend of Scottish rock dodging.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on December 18, 2008, 11:35:54 am
Can't see that pic at work but room for seven sounds far better than an old golf.

Weekend sounds good to me.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 18, 2008, 11:27:38 pm
If anyone is driving up to any of the Scottish resorts from Sheffield this winter I'd be up for sharing fuel & driving if you have space.  :thumbsup:

Lagers be sure to give us a headsup if you do. Will hopefully be vanned up by January.

Certainly.
What's your preferred style? I like steeps, but am well out of practice. I am a total spastic in the air and am even worse at landing. I appreciate the value of a good walk if it results in a decent descent and avoids the crowds. Come to think of it, my last Scottish riding was a lovely session at Creag Meagaidh in '94 - young, free, single and scared of nothing - oh how things change.
I'd be happy just to get a few lift assisted turns on real snow. I have a particular like of the ribbons of windblown snow that collect at the side of the "pistes" and next to the fences (quick tight turns). I also like steep, wet sugar.

I'm thinking about getting a helmet for those rocky slopes. Any recommendations, anyone?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 19, 2008, 09:13:17 am
I have got an R.E.D. Trace.

(http://www.shorelineoftahoe.com/store/images/W/R7070601-02.jpg)
Good price, light, comfy. Although there are some Traces in terrible colours if you like that sort of thing.

I also have an R.E.D. Skycap II that I bought rather hastily, then found it doesn't fit too well with my goggles, and a new helmet was actually cheaper than getting new goggles.

(http://www.planet-sports.de/images/products/large/l_burton_red_skycapII_2007_black.jpg)

Keep meaning to ebay it, but never get round to it. Any takers?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 19, 2008, 01:02:21 pm
As per Chris' experience always take your googles to try on a helmet and always try a helmet before you buy.

RED's don't fit me but our lass has one and rates it.  I have a Dainese and that is perfectly good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 19, 2008, 01:23:41 pm
Removable ear flaps are a good idea too; warm in the cold, no stupid tan lines in the spring!

Definitely need to try for size and shape.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 23, 2008, 12:06:21 pm
Cham update (from a mate who lives there but is over here doing the relatives thing) for anyone thinking of heading over this Xmas:  Grands Montets needs one or two more snowfalls to be full but is ridable (skiable, whatever) with care, some rocks poking through.  Return from Lavancher has been open but check before you drop in!  Brevant new lift is open replacing the antique system from Cham town BUT in true French style they have removed the little two man chair that took you from the top of the gondola to the beginner slopes so you now have to either walk up past the restaurants or ride down and then get the magic carpet chair back to the beginners slope.  In other words don't bother taking your mates to Brevent to teach them, go to Le Tour instead!  Flegere conditions unknown, nobody can be bothered to wait for the lift!!   Les Houches is still not on the Mont Blanc lift pass despite being advertised that it would be but Courmayeur and Verbier are, don't you just love 'em  ;) Courmayeur in very good nick. 

So if you're lucky enough to be going to the Alps for Christmas it looks like you're in for a good time and have a good one.   :dance1:

Can't wait for February ...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 24, 2008, 10:38:41 am
http://vimeo.com/2492092 (http://vimeo.com/2492092)

Some nice footage, but a bit too much babble. Sounds like Xavier is a boulderer too (see 29:30).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on December 24, 2008, 11:41:02 am
The avalanche section at the end is huge.
Shows how it can all go wrong so quickly.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 02, 2009, 02:17:59 pm
... and why you should always wear a transceiver  :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 03, 2009, 08:16:28 pm
Well seeing as it is my 40th, and everywhere is too expensive anyway, just booked Whistler for 2 weeks at start of Feb. Any tips for backcountry / hike to etc greatfully received.

(YYFY!)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on January 03, 2009, 08:39:37 pm

Since it's your 40th, save up for a day with a reputable heli operation.

My heli day in Whistler was hands down one of the best days of my life.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 03, 2009, 08:51:51 pm
Never been heli-boarding, but the flights in (heli) and out (heli+ floatplane) of the Cirque of the Unclimbables were two of the most amazing days of my life too.

Dunno if Chris is a jaded rig-monkey who is tired of helos though...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on January 04, 2009, 01:48:54 pm

Since it's your 40th, save up for a day with a reputable heli operation.

My heli day in Whistler was hands down one of the best days of my life.
If you haven't been to Whistler before then do not bother with the Heli, get out to Flute bowl and North Flute Bowl, super fun with a  hike of between 15-45min, if memory serves me right.

Been heli boarding in Whistler and you have to make sure you get a guide who understands what terrain is good for boarding and not just a skier. Spent half a day walking as the guide thought traversing hills in 40+cm of Pow into rolling humps would be fun, fine on ski's but impossible to get started again if you bail on a board. At $1500 for two people it was an expensive experience
I also didn't like the attitude of Whistlerheliskiing which was very nice before we booked but once they had our money.............

Had a much better experience heli boarding in Europe, maybe I was just unlucky.
Personally going to save for a trip to Alaska

Had much better experience of cat boarding operations.


If you want then try; http://www.powdermountaincatskiing.com/ (http://www.powdermountaincatskiing.com/) $499 Cdn +5% GST pppd for 7000vertical min
versus the $750 for the heli with 4500 vertical min

Also recommend going on a snowmobiling day at least or longer if you have the time.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: GraemeA on January 04, 2009, 04:41:07 pm
Chris - I am off to Whistler next Sunday so will post daily conditions reports  ;D

Hopefully Norton won't get too pissed off.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on January 04, 2009, 04:50:04 pm
The heli op we went with were great. The guides were very professional and although we were a mixed group of skiers and boarders the terrain was always first rate - no flats whatsoever and almost all of it laying fresh tracks. It was quite a while ago though so things might be different now. They certainly warned us that there were quite a few sub-standard heli facilities.

That cat operation looks like great value.

I've always wanted to go to the Island Lake Lodge cat place out the back of Fernie - meant to be some of the finest powder in the world and one of the best lodges....ah, bring on that lotto win :)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 04, 2009, 05:01:12 pm

I've always wanted to go to the Island Lake Lodge cat place out the back of Fernie - meant to be some of the finest powder in the world and one of the best lodges....ah, bring on that lotto win :)



i can highly recommend it word although i too will need a lottery win to be doing it again. if you want to get really cheesed then Kim flies out to Fernie in 3 days time to do a season. A season riding every day - he's saved up so he doesn't have to work. fucker.  ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 04, 2009, 06:40:54 pm
Dunno if Chris is a jaded rig-monkey who is tired of helos though...

My work is all shore based, and the good lady hasn't done any rig-monkeying for a few years, so always up for a flip or two. It's quite pricey though, so will see how conditions are there, and if we don't get enough of a fix in-bounds, might do a day of Heli or Cat boarding. Any recommendations of good operations or shit ones to avoid are appreciated.

We did a day of snow-mobiling in Yellowstone when we were at Jackson two years ago. An amazing way to see the park, and a great day out, but easily one of the coldest days of my life.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on January 05, 2009, 11:41:16 pm
Well seeing as it is my 40th, and everywhere is too expensive anyway, just booked Whistler for 2 weeks at start of Feb. Any tips for backcountry / hike to etc greatfully received.

(YYFY!)
Simplest hiking from Whistler mountain is along the musical bumps - plenty of fresh in the bowls along there to be had.
You bringing snowshoes or are you on a splitboard?
A million options if you want to do a proper hiking day out - make sure you have transceivers etc - the avvy conditions have been exceptionally poor so far this winter.
I'm going up for a few days at the end of this week - looking forward to it.
A good place to ask for info is on clubtread.com - you can get some good info from the forums.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 06, 2009, 08:32:37 am
Not sure what to bring. Have snowshoes, but they are bulky heavy duty ones, not really ideal for strapping to your pack when riding. Alternatively, have AT set-up for skis, but that would mean bringing boots, skis, poles etc as well, plus my powder skiing technique sucks big time. Got the basic avo kit (shovel, probe, transceiver).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 06, 2009, 01:46:03 pm
Chris - I am off to Whistler next Sunday so will post daily conditions reports  ;D

Hopefully Norton won't get too pissed off.



I was going to go to the Works this evening but if in doing so I am paying for your holidays, again, then I might not bother you bastard.

Hope you have good insurance http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jM289Feiu1fnQkf5FPT0lrfevm7w (http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jM289Feiu1fnQkf5FPT0lrfevm7w)

P.S. say hello to Chris.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 06, 2009, 02:15:03 pm
See my posting of Dec 17 on same subject.

Apparently snowpack v unstable atm - 3 avalanche deaths in Whistler area in last couple of weeks. Be very careful out there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: GraemeA on January 06, 2009, 04:02:35 pm
Christ, that would shit you up!

At least it was -28. Imagine stuck in a gondola for hours on end in those temps.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 15, 2009, 08:46:20 am
Off to Austria (7th-14th Feb). Staying in a chalet near a little known resort called Kreischberg. Tiny resort compared to most but should be alright for a cheap week.

Lagers. Any Scotland weekend snowboard action will have to be one weekend after the above. If they get some snow of course.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2009, 09:17:25 am
It's forecast for all change as of today, but little point coming up here at the moment.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 15, 2009, 09:34:04 am
With good forecasts how long does it takes for reasonable piste conditions in Scotland to appear Chris?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2009, 09:55:02 am
Let me dust off the crystal ball..... Anything beween overnight and never. If ground is well frozen (as it is at the moment) and snow that falls (assuming it's not too windy) either hardens up quickly (if there is a fairly good freeze thaw going on, as snow here is normally pretty wet) or is pisted down. Places like the lecht have a peat and heather base, so no need for any base to cover rocks etc. Cairngorm seems to fari gup best at the moment, but I reckon it wont take much to get parts of Glenshee open again.

However if ground never really freezes, like winter before last, any snow can melt away almost instantly, and no base is ever really established.

http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/)

Is a good source for info.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 15, 2009, 10:36:12 am
Thanks for info Chris and sorry for the dumb question.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2009, 11:54:38 am
Not dumb, just that Scottish skiing is such a fickle fucker, it's not easy to give a straight answer. Due to very low altitude and maritime climate, it bears very little resemblence to snow pack and base development in alpine resorts. Last year was fantastic - one of the best seasons on record, and resorts still had good conditions well after many french resorts had closed. Year before was nothing short of disastrous. Year before that we had a ridiculous amount of snow in March - a week of almost continuous snow, lying a foot deep even on the coast, and good conditions for a moth, after what had been a pretty average season until that point.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 15, 2009, 03:41:24 pm
Not dumb, just that Scottish skiing is such a fickle fucker, it's not easy to give a straight answer. Due to very low altitude and maritime climate, it bears very little resemblence to snow pack and base development in alpine resorts. Last year was fantastic - one of the best seasons on record, and resorts still had good conditions well after many french resorts had closed. Year before was nothing short of disastrous. Year before that we had a ridiculous amount of snow in March - a week of almost continuous snow, lying a foot deep even on the coast, and good conditions for a moth, after what had been a pretty average season until that point.

(http://www.justflight.com/img/screenshots/20070625162922VVXY3-M.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2009, 03:43:47 pm
ahhh blow it out yer ass funnyguy :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 15, 2009, 04:20:50 pm
sorry  :-[

I do like my own jokes  :lol:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2009, 04:30:36 pm

I do like my own jokes  :lol:

So that brings the total to one.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 15, 2009, 09:14:51 pm
... assuming it's not too windy........

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 16, 2009, 08:08:38 am
... assuming it's not too windy........

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 ;D

It can happen! (occasionally)

(http://www.smuffandrooney.co.uk/d/2014-2/IMG_0114.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 16, 2009, 08:38:38 am
you're preaching to the (un)converted.  I used to live there too  :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: GraemeA on January 17, 2009, 12:59:42 am
Conditions report Kicking Horse. Friday.

Massive cloud inversion so complete whiteout until you got to the bowls.Lovely sunshine up top. No fresh but plenty of base. Going right from the gondola a waste of time as you have to go to the bottom and that is covered in cloud. Lots of fun to be had in the trees down to the 4-man lift. But not as good as last year. So you won't feel quite as bad about paying for my holiday  ::)

Lunch at the Eagles Eye very pleasant. We went to the Local Hero to settle up the bill from last year when they got our tab wrong but that Scottish bloke has left so didn't bother.

Chris says hello.

Back to Revelstoke tomorrow which has much more variety and still some untracked bits. Plus better value as the hotel forgot to charge us for our passes. Result.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 17, 2009, 09:11:26 am
We went to the Local Hero to settle up the bill from last year when they got our tab wrong but that Scottish bloke has left so didn't bother....
...
 hotel forgot to charge us for our passes. Result.

That's stealing!  :spank:

some things never change  ::)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 19, 2009, 09:58:35 pm
All change on west coast

http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: GraemeA on January 20, 2009, 06:12:11 am
Unfortunatley no change on the Canadian west coast. Nothing news for over a week  >:(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 20, 2009, 09:00:34 am
It's saving up for the end of the month :
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on January 20, 2009, 08:15:00 pm
Unfortunatley no change on the Canadian west coast. Nothing news for over a week  >:(
Yep - you've hit an unusual duff patch of sustained high pressure, that's for sure - most models predict a slight break towards the end of this week, then a proper low sometime mid next week - thankfully this weather has helped straighten out the massive instability in the snowpack somewhat.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on January 20, 2009, 08:26:35 pm
Unfortunatley no change on the Canadian west coast. Nothing news for over a week  >:(
Quel domage, Grom :boohoo:

Meanwhile, back in the real world Sam let me look in the Axminister catalogue, and, well, I might have bought some stuff....... :whistle:

And its dumping snow all over the Grand Massif  :thumbsup:

Looks like Canada is going to get some pooder just as you get on the plane....typical
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 21, 2009, 08:01:51 am

Looks like Canada is going to get some pooder just as you get on the plane....typical

Fuck I hope so. (Sorry Graeme).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: GraemeA on January 21, 2009, 05:32:18 pm
Forecast is for snow on Saturday and Sunday so hopefully will get a couple of days of fresh before I get on the plane. But I've skied most days anyway so its been fun, just not as good as hoped for.

Off to Whistler in 10 minutes so I will find out what all the hype is about.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on January 21, 2009, 09:11:49 pm
Forecast is for snow on Saturday and Sunday so hopefully will get a couple of days of fresh before I get on the plane. But I've skied most days anyway so its been fun, just not as good as hoped for.

Off to Whistler in 10 minutes so I will find out what all the hype is about.

Stick to Blackcombe is my advice.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 22, 2009, 11:26:25 pm
Just booked flights for me and Nasty Casty (AKA Plank Master Cast) - my main riding/drinking/pulling/fighting partner for 3 looooong seasons back in the day.

We shall be in Argentiere from Sat 31 Jan to Sat 7 Feb if anyone wants to hook up with a couple of heavy, less young and probably-past-it-has-beens with reasonable local knowledge, get in touch.

Casty has finally had his knee fixed (£lots) - but he did pretty well without a functional knee for a long time so it will be interesting to see whether he can keep up with me now :bigheadedcuntthatiam:

 :bounce: well excited  :thumbsup:

I'm hoping that Mrs Starfish and the next Lagers Jr can keep up with this two-people-ocupying-the-same-space-at-the-same-time trick going until we're nearer their due date.  :whistle:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 26, 2009, 02:21:46 pm
After asking for advice last year (and yes I forgot to hand out the wads but belated wads are a coming) I've finally kicked my ass into gear and started looking.

Found a pair of Drake bindings which I like (appear to be well priced and well featured too). Toe or Cap strap binding etc. So my question is are these well priced and any good? If so I'm getting them today.

http://www.bargainboards.co.uk/P/Drake_MENTOR_Snowboard_Bindings_buy_SNOWBOARDING_DISCOUNT_SALE_XL-(12455).aspx (http://www.bargainboards.co.uk/P/Drake_MENTOR_Snowboard_Bindings_buy_SNOWBOARDING_DISCOUNT_SALE_XL-(12455).aspx)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2009, 02:48:51 pm
How big are your feet? Those are XL so size 10-14? Need to be aware that they may not suit a standard width board, but would probably be OK with a wide or a mid-wide. I have a pair of the Drake Mikey Le Blanc bindings from about 2004. Good well made bindings, on the heavy but sturdy side of things rather than lightweight but flimsy. Had well over 100 days of use and still going strong (had to replace one ladder strap, but that was because I kept standing on it!). Mine are Large and I have 9 1/2 feet.

Price wise it's not that good a bargain, I reckon you could get similar level binding for £100-£120 if you shop around.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 26, 2009, 03:03:41 pm
Hey Chris. I'm a size UK10 so I'm borderline L/XL by the looks of things, I guess L would be fine. I shopped around for those and found them at £200 in other places. Glad I asked. Looked at the Drake Czar (£120) first which sounded pretty good too. But Brown with Gold is asking for it. I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2009, 03:09:59 pm
I would go for an L binding unless you have a huge volume boot like the K2 ones. They are usually fully adjustable, apart from in the width, and if you get one that's too wide no amount of playing with straps etc will stop your foot from moving about.

PS was out at Glenshee Friday, snow is pretty good at the moment; cover pretty much complete although crusty in places, but there is now a base and unless there are any major thaws will only improve. Better in the west - a lot of snow there if recent events are anything to go by http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Death-in-Glencoe-Sad-walk.4911511.jp (http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Death-in-Glencoe-Sad-walk.4911511.jp) so make the most of it, but be careful!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 26, 2009, 03:20:55 pm
Size L it is then. Might wander up to Slide and see what Mr Slide can do for me. I'm just itching for new gear!

Heard that news yesterday and I know the route well. Very sad news indeed.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: GraemeA on January 26, 2009, 05:36:00 pm
Nothing new over in Vancouver. Gave up and went bouldering at Squamish on Saturday. Am going to check out the Cypress boulders before flying back tonight.

Forecast is for snow tomorrow. Bunch of arse.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on January 26, 2009, 08:45:31 pm
Nothing new over in Vancouver. Gave up and went bouldering at Squamish on Saturday. Am going to check out the Cypress boulders before flying back tonight.

Forecast is for snow tomorrow. Bunch of arse.
Yep - 10 cm forecast for tonight, then lots more snow for next week or so.
You have been blighted by some pretty unusual weather - i went sea kayaking yesterday and found myself paddling an icebreaker - ice on the sea - bonkers  :shrug:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2009, 08:31:06 am
Yep - 10 cm forecast for tonight, then lots more snow for next week or so.
I fear I may explode before Saturday.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2009, 10:54:23 am
I'm just itching for new gear!

What exactly are you after? Bindings seem like an odd place to start. Order of priorities; get a decent pair of boots first; preferably professionally fitted, then a board, then bindings. Apologies if you have crossed hurdles 1 & 2 already.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 27, 2009, 11:23:23 am
Here's my thinking.

My boots are proper comfy if a little dated so I'm thinking if they're not broken don't fix them.

My flow bindings were quite painful last year (dunno why. digging into the based of my calf) and figured I'd move back to trad bindings which a few guys on here thought were better anyway.

My board is a now crashed repaired entry level Burton so thought I'd update that too.

New boots, board and bindings sounds like the best plan.  :dance1:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2009, 11:37:24 am
Hey, nothing wrong with new toys.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 27, 2009, 02:45:04 pm
Hey, nothing wrong with new toys.

Rome Solutions 163 on the way. A little bigger than my Clash. Can't wait to try it out.

Boots and bindings should be purchase tomorrow if I can decide which to get.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on January 27, 2009, 06:44:39 pm
Here's my thinking.

My flow bindings were quite painful last year (dunno why. digging into the based of my calf) and figured I'd move back to trad bindings which a few guys on here thought were better anyway.


Because they are poo, ha ha. Couldn't resist that one.
I know some people who love them but I just can't see it myself, and Mr Mcnab  says the are useless so it must be true.
Nice move on the Rome Solution have one myself, amongst my collection, and it is nice and friendly as well as being a pretty good performer.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 27, 2009, 07:09:52 pm
 :agree: flow are poo.

they also have low highbacks compared to most bindings so make sure your new bindings have a higher highback (phew).  Ride also tend to be pretty short whereas burton generally have very long highbacks.  Sorted now eh?

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 27, 2009, 10:38:22 pm
(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture.jpg)

15 years ago before they built the lifts on the slope down to Vallorcine.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 27, 2009, 11:12:33 pm
1994 - Abbing into the Poubelle Couloir behind the top of the Bochard lift, Grande Montets.

(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture003.jpg)

Glen Plake abbed down that rock slab to the right in The Blizzard Of Ahhs - soft twat.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 27, 2009, 11:24:01 pm
spring 1995 - The furthest (skiers) left couloir off the back of the Pousettes heading down to Le Buet. Perfect spring snow just for me  :thumbsup:

(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture004.jpg)

Probably pretty boring for anyone who's not interested in the quality of the snow and the angle of the slope (look at the trees).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 27, 2009, 11:34:07 pm
look at me  8) (middle distance at the end of those slightly gay short radius turns)
(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture005.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2009, 01:13:31 am
PlankMaster Cast (axe ready, tounge out) on the top part of the Glacier Ronde in rather poor/hard conditions (500+ of hard pack). The exit couloir was in much better spring nick.
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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 28, 2009, 01:53:12 pm
Hey, nothing wrong with new toys.

Rome Solutions 163 on the way. A little bigger than my Clash. Can't wait to try it out.

Boots and bindings should be purchase tomorrow if I can decide which to get.

Burton Cartel bindings and Burton Hail boots purchased today. I know that Burton bindings got dissed on here but I like them. I'm soooooooo looking forward to that first run!!

Loving the pictures Lagers.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 28, 2009, 01:59:13 pm
 :agree: Quality pics Lagers
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2009, 02:14:01 pm
Glen Plake abbed down that rock slab to the right in The Blizzard Of Ahhs - soft twat.

You actually look like Cookie the Swede. Can hear Propaganda soundtrack already!

(PS I have Blizzard of Aaahs on DVD if anyone want to copy).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2009, 05:52:49 pm
Check out my home made touring kit. Used a couple of hinges from a hardware shop to fix my old bindings (sans highbacks) to some sawn off skis, scrounged some old skins and cut them to length and shaped a block of wood to wedge between boot and binding to act as a heel raiser.

Mont Maudit or M B du Tacul
(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture013.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2009, 06:08:32 pm
Fuck me I've had a good life! :thumbsup:

(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture014.jpg)

(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture015.jpg)

(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture016.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2009, 06:10:04 pm
Good effort actually stopping for powder pics. I can normally never be hooped.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2009, 06:14:05 pm
Good effort actually stopping for powder pics. I can normally never be hooped.

We were having such an awesome season (ticklist completed and repeated in first month) that we thought we'd better get some pics. As you know, there are never any pictures taken on the best days coz you're too busy having fun.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2009, 06:31:14 pm
Casty getting to the top of the Grande Autannes (sp?). That's the top chairlift at Le Tour waaaay down in the background - doesn't it look flat?
(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture017.jpg)


This one is a little off topic, but I was on my board. This is Rick on the lower slopes (450) of the north face of the Col du Plan below the steep abseil section. The top slope was in mint condition and even going over a small 'shrund part way down was pure joy. It gets 550 in some guides, but in deep stable snow it felt like 400. This lower bit was well crusty with icy sections lower down - check out the chute debris in the picture.
The skis that Rick is using are the ones I found in a bin when looking to make my touring set up, but they were better than his so we swapped. That boy has skills.

(http://jknujknu1.googlepages.com/Picture018.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2009, 08:22:57 am
What board was "Casty" riding? Base looks distinctly like my old Burton Air.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2009, 09:29:19 am
What board was "Casty" riding? Base looks distinctly like my old Burton Air.

I think it might have been a Burton Craig Kelly Air, although he did have another slightly shorter Air
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2009, 12:22:05 pm
I sometimes think I should get mine to a shop and get it fixed, but the blown out edge is probably unrepairable. And it would probably feel like shit compared to newer boards (esp my Baron 167)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on February 03, 2009, 12:37:04 am
Cracking pictures indeed Lagers.

We are currently in Park City Utah. Fantastic snow for the first 4 days (about 30 inches or more). The last few days have been clear blue, and no more snow forecast unfortunately - sounds like the UK is the place to be for snow.

Saw the World Mogul Champs and Aerial Champs the other night - all rather impressive. Also experienced Superbowl Sunday yesterday, which was pretty good fun in a beery kind of way.

Off to the hot tub with a beer now.  :great:

(http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee345/TLR99/Kim9990.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on February 03, 2009, 12:57:00 am
Is that pic from park city? I swore I recognized it but then told myself to stop being such a fool. There are two runs off that lift if I remember correctly and somewhere to buy coffee at the bottom, a tiny hut. I only remember this so well as it was my Uncles 50th the night before and he was chucking up green stuff whilst I enjoyed the best powder I'd ever experienced. The pocket rockets on my feet (for once that fortnight) were great fun!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on February 03, 2009, 12:58:00 am
Sorry for the double post, are you trying out any other resorts? Snowbird and Alta were amazing but if anyones on a board the latter is out of the question.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on February 03, 2009, 01:42:40 am
Picture is from the top lift in Park City called Jupiter, it just accesses double diamond areas, some by a short hike. No coffee shop at the bottom though.

Been to Park City, Canyons and Deer Valley so far. Off to Snowbird or Alta on Wednesday. We are all skiing, so no worries there. Deer Valley doesn't allow snowboarders either, but its not that great so they aren't missing much.

I can't believe how many of the chairlifts don't have safety bars! Seems odd in such a litigious society.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on February 03, 2009, 12:35:16 pm
Ah k... I liked Park City but it wasn't the best we visited. The lack of safety is insane! a measly little chain on some really high lifts.
I think we did:
Park City - a little busy
Deer Valley - expensive
Canyons - a litte small
Snowbird - amazing
Alta - amazing
Snowbasin - some fairly grand lodges left over the olympics, massive four way fires and huge wooden columns.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on February 03, 2009, 05:42:28 pm
Park City certainly isn't busy at the moment. Apart from the weekend we have literally skiied straight onto every single lift, its been great. Most of the time we are the only people on a slope.

This is supposed to be the quiet time though, it must get a lot busier.

Top lift on Canyons (99-90) is good, rest of the resort is nothing too special.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 03, 2009, 05:58:09 pm
Quote
The lack of safety is insane! a measly little chain on some really high lifts.

Have you considered making this fascination with Health and Safety into a career Paul? Seriously, from the guys I meet it seems a fuckin easy life if you're that way inclined...

Seen a few snowboards being carried up through the parks in Sheff this evening. Apparently there is a kicker up and running in Hathersage too...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 03, 2009, 06:33:25 pm
Paul, I hear there are even places where you can jump off cliffs and things  :jaw:.  You can even spin whilst dropping.  Outrageously dangerous imho.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on February 03, 2009, 07:02:46 pm
not snowboarding but fuck it. saw some bits from this ski vid at the weekend. some seriously jawdropping footage. check this fella's first jump. the opening sequence has the final countdown as the music. that takes fucking balls.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oeXNvX0b03A (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oeXNvX0b03A)

apparently travis rice has just made a snowboard vid with a $6m budget. shit.

tlr. that looks rubbish. i'm not jealous. no sir.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 03, 2009, 07:07:45 pm
Shit dog. I thought he was going to pull out a BASE rig at the top of that first jump.

When is someone going to film me on Deliverance from a helicopter?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on February 03, 2009, 07:14:42 pm
Shit dog. I thought he was going to pull out a BASE rig at the top of that first jump.

When is someone going to film me on Deliverance from a helicopter?

his first jump is stylish as fuck. wasn't sharma filmed on Jumbo Love from a chopper?

the travis rice one is 'That's it, That's all':

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQ4eospnZ8 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQ4eospnZ8)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8Lv932q-g (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8Lv932q-g)

apparently most of it is shot in 35mm. some seriously stunning cinematography.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on February 03, 2009, 10:15:43 pm
wow.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1YiBNo8KUGU&feature=related (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1YiBNo8KUGU&feature=related)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on February 10, 2009, 07:51:15 pm
anyone got any tips for websites to get boarding holidays for 'fuck all'. i seem to have exhausted my resources.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2009, 10:18:18 am
anyone got any tips for websites to get boarding holidays for 'fuck all'. i seem to have exhausted my resources.

http://www.ukcompetitions.com/holidays.html (http://www.ukcompetitions.com/holidays.html)

Had good Whistler trip. Base not that great, but had a couple of storms of a bout a foot each. Then went Cat skiing at Powder Mountain, now ruined for resort skiing for life. Pics to follow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2009, 11:04:29 am
Then went Cat skiing at Powder Mountain, now ruined for resort skiing for life. Pics to follow.

You're not wrong. I've had some fantastic off piste holidays, but I do find it really hard now to be arsed to go skiing on 3 day old pistes, especially when anything steep is mogulled to buggery.

Lift accessed powder is fantastic, but usually very shortlived unless its actually dumping whilst you are skiing.

I am seriously thing that next year might have to be 10 days cat skiing somewhere. It'd be expensive, but if I only have 10 days skiing instead of 3 weeks then costs should be comparable.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on February 16, 2009, 11:08:30 am
Glad you had a good trip to Whistler.
Looking forward to your photos of the cat boarding.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2009, 11:08:53 am
http://catskiing.ca/Cat-Skiing-Operators/ (http://catskiing.ca/Cat-Skiing-Operators/) has some good info.

I also got a recent mag that has a full listing of all heli and cat operations in Canada which I can scan if anyone wants a looksee.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2009, 10:27:42 am
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pdVBsuczjqE/SZqOs3Fcx4I/AAAAAAAAAFA/uf9xTfw0tbU/s1600/11_february_2009_mike_408.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pdVBsuczjqE/SZqOsh9pnrI/AAAAAAAAAE4/lKheOgZ4-GM/s1600/11_february_2009_mike_406.JPG)
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pdVBsuczjqE/SZqPY_nnVlI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/eeDRdTI8djU/s1600/11_february_2009_mike_405.JPG)

All pics by Mike Crane http://www.mikecranephotography.com/ (http://www.mikecranephotography.com/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2009, 10:28:24 am
sorry they are all a bit big
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 18, 2009, 09:51:19 am
Oh well I like them.

Had a couple of conversations with people who had been to Japan for boarding and were raving about amount of snow and quality. Has anyone been? Be nice to combine some time on the hills there with a few days in Tokyo and a bit of climbing either there or somewhere like, say Hong Kong? (I will get there evenially Stu!)

http://www.snowjapan.com/e/index.php (http://www.snowjapan.com/e/index.php)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 18, 2009, 10:17:11 am
Can't see those piccies at work. I'll have a look later.

IIRC BBC's ski sunday visited Japan in last years series and IIRC it looked and sounded amazing. Might be some footage available on t'web.

Got back from Austria on Sunday. Went to the same resort everyday whilst there (shame cos I'd have preferred to sample some of the other resorts. Especially Turrache Hohe (?) which has a ski-taxi across a frozen lake joining up the two mountains the pass covers). Kreischberg is a decent little resort. Small yet perfectly formed.

We stayed in a chalet about 10mins from Kreischberg in a place called Stadl an der Mer (1hr 30mins from Salzburg). Very nice brand new chalet. Sleeps 8 easy (10 including the settee). The village is very quiet and the resort also rather quiet. So if you don't want things lively this place is ideal.

The drive home was very interesting. Major snow fall. Snow ploughs. Broken fuel hose and a damaged clutch.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 18, 2009, 02:33:27 pm
Anyone heard from Kim? How is his season progressing?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: dave on February 18, 2009, 02:46:19 pm
sounds like he having a good time, getting out almost every day by the sounds of it! he has been logging onto here though so maybe he'll see this and reply.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on February 18, 2009, 02:56:58 pm
Oh well I like them.
They didn't show up for me.

Japan seems a long way to go just for the snow. Not to mention the snow-destroying air miles  :whistle:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 23, 2009, 10:45:29 am
Oh well I like them.
They didn't show up for me.

Japan seems a long way to go just for the snow. Not to mention the snow-destroying air miles  :whistle:

Bugger. Could anyone? Wouldn't just go for the snow, been making threats to get to HK for a long time now.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 23, 2009, 10:47:47 am
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pdVBsuczjqE/SZqOsh9pnrI/AAAAAAAAAE4/lKheOgZ4-GM/s400/11_february_2009_mike_406.JPG)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pdVBsuczjqE/SZqPY_nnVlI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/eeDRdTI8djU/s400/11_february_2009_mike_405.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pdVBsuczjqE/SZqOtCbk-RI/AAAAAAAAAFI/zrpouKBLzYs/s400/11_february_2009_mike_362.JPG)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 24, 2009, 09:01:12 am
Are they visible?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 24, 2009, 09:12:49 am
I can see 3 pictures of what looks like grade A conditions.  8)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 24, 2009, 09:20:53 am
Anyone see Ed Leigh test-riding boards last night on High Altitude, BBC2 (think it's been on before)? He has got possibly the best job in the world. Heli-boarding in New Zealand test-riding boards.  :bow:

The tapered board and the swallow tail board seemed the best boards for deep powder. Anyone tried either of these types of board?


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 24, 2009, 09:40:17 am
I tried riding a Burton Malolo that one of the guys on the cat trip had - I didn't really like it; too easy to turn and tricky to get a nice drawn out carving turn on it. Sure it would be nice if it was botomless fluff though, buy you can achieve a similar effect by just moving bindings backwards.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 24, 2009, 09:42:51 am
My mate Casty has a huuuuge swallow tail (2m I think) which I've had a play with in deep powder. Very easy to ride.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 24, 2009, 09:47:16 am
Too easy?

Had a look at the new Fish

(http://snowboardreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/burton-fish-2009.jpg)

Love the retro graphics
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 24, 2009, 09:50:20 am
I tried riding a Burton Malolo that one of the guys on the cat trip had - I didn't really like it; too easy to turn and tricky to get a nice drawn out carving turn on it. Sure it would be nice if it was botomless fluff though, buy you can achieve a similar effect by just moving bindings backwards.

Ed used a control board with the bindings right back. Reckoned his right leg felt like he'd hopped a marathon. I guess with the tapered/swallow tail boards there's no need to move the bindings back?

He was riding some of the deepest powder I'd ever seen.

The swallow tail looked fast. He also test drove a banana board and a 2m+ long board. Which he tried to land a drop off and failed.

Here's the iPlayer link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hzlqf/High_Altitude_Shorts_Snowboard_Testing/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hzlqf/High_Altitude_Shorts_Snowboard_Testing/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2009, 10:20:56 am

apparently travis rice has just made a snowboard vid with a $6m budget. shit.


http://www.thatsit-thatsall.com/ (http://www.thatsit-thatsall.com/)

Has anyone seen it btw? Some nice looking sequences, but looks like a load of wanky stuff thrown in too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 26, 2009, 06:52:15 pm
Too easy?

Had a look at the new Fish

(http://snowboardreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/burton-fish-2009.jpg)

Love the retro graphics
Did you go and visit the Prior factory shop in Whistles when you were there? Their Spearhead board looks very nice - I bought one of their splitboards for work recently - great board.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2009, 07:56:12 am
Had thought about going, but never got round to it. Had a look at one of the new Prior Splitboards in one of the shops though. Lovely piece of kit, great graphics, but couldn't justify it.

I recommend the free one day avalanche awareness classes they do at Whistler btw. We were the only two that showed up for it (was a pretty minging day anyway) and the guy was really good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on February 27, 2009, 09:06:23 am
I went to the prior factory a long time ago, pretty impressive how you can just wander off the street and end up chatting to the boss of the place. They were really laid back but so into the boards and boarding in general, really nice to see a manufacturer that loved what they were doing.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fiend on February 27, 2009, 11:00:56 am
Quick SKIING question (that's a question by a skier, about skiing, for skiers, sorry):

Any tips and tricks on becoming better at jumps, bumps, and drops??

I'm a competent skier - reds easily, blacks steadily, can do moguls fine although get bored of them, bit crap on off-piste but it doesn't really interest me.

I really like doing little jumps and drops off all the random bits where pistes meet and snow is banked up etc etc. I used to be more confident with this as a kid, now I've grown old and cowardly and want to regain some of the fun and confidence I had with it... I've re-learnt a bit about keeping the bounce in my legs etc etc. But more tips would be appreciated...

Ta  :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on February 27, 2009, 11:06:21 am
Been a good few years since I skied, but always found the problem of jumps was that I had a natural tendency to lean backwards so keeping your weight forward on take off is probably a good thing.  I guess keeping the knees flexible in anticipation of the landing is fairly self-evident.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on February 27, 2009, 11:26:16 am
Quick SKIING question (that's a question by a skier, about skiing, for skiers, sorry):

Any tips and tricks on becoming better at jumps, bumps, and drops??



Ta  :)

Yeah, get a snowboard ( thats an answer from a skier (20 years), now a snowboarder).

Much easier and safer on a board.

If that doesn't satisfy, then get some lessons.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2009, 11:31:48 am
Fiend, I haven't been off jumps on skis in a while but can recommend the following, from what I recall;

1) get a lid
2) find a terrain park in the resort with a few small custom made jumps, with smooth transitions of sutable size so you don't have to a flat landing and smack your balls on your kneeecaps. Much easier to go big on than natural hits.
3) hit it on a sunny day when the snow has softened and you can see properly.
4) Hit jumps straight on, don't try and pop or anything to launch.
5) Bend knees slightly on takeoff, straighten in air and start to bend them just before touchdown, to absorb impact.
6) flail arms to try and balance
7) repeat, only faster
8) MTFU
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fiend on February 27, 2009, 03:47:11 pm
Useful tips, ta. Apart from the snowboarding one.

Bendez les knees etc etc.

One thing I've found to be useful is to take jumps a bit slower and actually bounce a bit myself, I feel more in control that way. I can probably do the flailing bit pretty well.

Any more tips??
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 27, 2009, 03:57:46 pm
I'm worried about this bend the knees thing. I'd also lift your knees too. I've got pictures of fiend accidently pulling an iron cross out of the bag mid-air but landing in a crumpled mess.

(http://www.skiplanet.it/fotoart/1/salto_freestyle1.jpg)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2009, 04:15:56 pm
One thing I've found to be useful is to take jumps a bit slower and actually bounce a bit myself, I feel more in control that way.

see item 4 - (assuming by bouncing you mean popping on takeoff, and not bouncing off the deck on landing) but it's a personal choice - taking jumps a bit slower means item 8 is not being applied.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fiend on February 27, 2009, 05:15:11 pm
see item 4 - (assuming by bouncing you mean popping on takeoff, and not bouncing off the deck on landing) but it's a personal choice - taking jumps a bit slower means item 8 is not being applied.
Hmmm. Well it's worked for me, was the thing that "clicked" last time. Very happy to not have 8 applied, thank you.

I'm worried about this bend the knees thing. I'd also lift your knees too.
Explain more plz.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 27, 2009, 05:32:25 pm
I'm worried about this bend the knees thing. I'd also lift your knees too.
Explain more plz.
I guess it's more of a 1/4 squat position rather than the quad stretch knee bend position. Which is why I starting imagining iron crosses.  :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2009, 09:38:11 pm

Here's the iPlayer link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hzlqf/High_Altitude_Shorts_Snowboard_Testing/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hzlqf/High_Altitude_Shorts_Snowboard_Testing/)

Finally got round to watching this. Quite interesting, but he could have done a bit more research, and some of his "facts" requred a pinch of salt. Also does anyone else find him a bit of an annoying twat?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on March 02, 2009, 08:02:23 am

Here's the iPlayer link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hzlqf/High_Altitude_Shorts_Snowboard_Testing/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hzlqf/High_Altitude_Shorts_Snowboard_Testing/)

Finally got round to watching this. Quite interesting, but he could have done a bit more research, and some of his "facts" requred a pinch of salt. Also does anyone else find him a bit of an annoying twat?

I'd have preferred a longer edit. It was cut to 10 minutes. Could've been more of everything. Info, footage etc. NZ looked amazing.

I quite like him. His love for boarding is infectious.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on March 03, 2009, 05:10:08 am
some pics from my mate Rob's fickr page - plenty more here http://www.flickr.com/photos/15772074@N00/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15772074@N00/)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2343/1986340564_f2ce2826fe.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/346770985_01677b19c1.jpg)

he's got some nice mtn biking shots too

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 03, 2009, 07:55:37 am
Hey stu, you considered visiting Japan for some boarding? You are a bit closer to the action there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on March 09, 2009, 01:55:08 pm
Had my best days skiing ever on Saturday in Tignes. Amazingly light deep powder.

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on March 09, 2009, 02:26:15 pm
off to deux alpes on sat for a week for my stag do with 10 others  :dance1:
snow looks fantastic at moment. suitably psyched.
with patter as my best man i may survive, as he is even more of a lightweight than me.  :pissed:
will not be taking any shortcuts to get to the apartment though thats for sure.
will post a selection of shots on my return
 8)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fiend on March 09, 2009, 02:30:07 pm
Had my best days skiing ever on Saturday in Tignes. Amazingly light deep powder.

Same just over the hill *waves from Les Arcs*. Visibility could have done with some improvement tho. La Plagne on Friday, was going through knee deep powder right next to the piste. P.S. Where did you find trees in Tignes?? ;).

This trip I mostly got my arse kicked by icy moguls and then powder over icy moguls. Realised I was crap at jumps, it takes me a few days to warm into skiing, and I like powder a lot more than I thought.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 09, 2009, 03:04:15 pm
Nice snow ghosts there tlr, rare for Europe.

Was that link meant to go anywhere? It doesn't.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tlr on March 09, 2009, 03:29:59 pm
Dunno why that link is there, should just be a picture.

Trees in Tigne were down towards La Daille, in this instance in an area called Spatule.

Link to a couple of other ski pictures from last week. http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee345/TLR99/Skiing/ (http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee345/TLR99/Skiing/)

Needed rocks or trees to help visibility.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on March 09, 2009, 05:31:28 pm
Had a great day splitboarding in the Whistler backcountry on saturday - lots of untracked fluffy powder.
Also, coming back via the frontcountry, we were the last people off the mountain and followed a stripe of pristine corduroy from top to bottom - clocked just under 80 km/h on the gps - felt quite fast....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 10, 2009, 08:07:18 am
Nice Andy, wherabouts were you? Have you done the Spearhead traverse? sounds like a nice trip. Probably better suited to touring skis than splitboard though.

Did you see this?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/03/07/bc-golden-avalanche.html (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/03/07/bc-golden-avalanche.html)

The comments section is fascinatingly predictable.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 10, 2009, 06:27:04 pm
Sweeet! Just booked 4 days in Serre Chevalier. Didn't think I was going to see any snow action this year, better than nowt.   :dance1:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on March 10, 2009, 07:24:59 pm
Nice Andy, wherabouts were you? Have you done the Spearhead traverse? sounds like a nice trip. Probably better suited to touring skis than splitboard though.

Did you see this?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/03/07/bc-golden-avalanche.html (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/03/07/bc-golden-avalanche.html)

The comments section is fascinatingly predictable.
Just went along the musical bumps to singing pass and back.
Haven't done the spearhead trav but it's on the list - the list is very long though......
Yep, golden is having a bad month - one back country person dead from exposure and now an avvy inbounds - it's been a very strange winter for the snowpack here.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 10, 2009, 09:03:59 pm
Saw the other one, guy was out with his wife backcountry, and she died?

Nice one OW. Looking poor here.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on March 10, 2009, 09:54:10 pm
Saw the other one, guy was out with his wife backcountry, and she died?

Yep - they left SOS messages in the snow which were seen, but not acted on by the RCMP - bad form....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on March 16, 2009, 12:19:19 am
Just came back from a week in Cham and thought i would post some piccies. Had fresh powder to play in every day.

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs025.snc1/2650_58224129005_726849005_1699276_766119_n.jpg)
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs025.snc1/2650_58224239005_726849005_1699291_6260419_n.jpg)
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs025.snc1/2650_58224149005_726849005_1699279_3992425_n.jpg)
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs025.snc1/2650_58224139005_726849005_1699277_7798620_n.jpg)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs025.snc1/2650_58224184005_726849005_1699284_6869249_n.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 16, 2009, 09:25:04 pm
nice, although that second one looks like you are wandering through a heap of debris.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 25, 2009, 10:05:27 am
Not really snowboarding, but I thought this was quite an interesting history of failed ski resort developments in Scotland.

http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/skiresorts/other/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/skiresorts/other/index.php)

(http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/graphics/skiresorts/ml3.jpg)

Being especially good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on March 25, 2009, 10:14:14 am
nice, although that second one looks like you are wandering through a heap of debris.

Nah, no debris, just force marching up zig zag's for 3hrs to the Col du Beaugean. It was nice to get the snow shoes off and the crampons on, a sentiment also shared by Andy G and Cammy. Bit different from bouldering at Dumbarton. Worth it in the end as I had one of my best powder days ever.

See: http://www.mcnabsnowsports.com/news/page/171 (http://www.mcnabsnowsports.com/news/page/171) for more photos.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on May 12, 2009, 05:57:20 pm
Keith McIntosh, RIP mate.

http://mcnabsnowboarding.blogspot.com/ (http://mcnabsnowboarding.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Darren S on May 12, 2009, 08:30:53 pm
Found out yesterday and still in shock.
Keith was one of the nicest guys you could have ever met.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 13, 2009, 08:44:17 am
Some psyche material for anyone who might be getting to the slopes this year.

It's the happening thing!

http://www.zapiks.com/cross-country-snowboarding-1.html (http://www.zapiks.com/cross-country-snowboarding-1.html)

(filched from UKC).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on October 13, 2009, 10:13:30 am
Just booked a week in Morzine for February.
What are peoples thoughts on the place? I have only heard good things so far....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 13, 2009, 10:21:13 am
Morzine is good if you can't French. The town can be a bit britchav, expect lots of lads.

In Feb you should be OK, but it is pretty low so you may need to download at the end of the day, as lower slopes can get poor. Worth getting full PdS pass, and getting over onto Mt Chery in Les Get and over the back into Avoriaz and Champery. If you like parks, The Stash is good fun.

Are you taking van or doing a package deal? If you have transport, there are some great small resorts in the PdS, often desterted when Avoriaz / Morzine is overrun.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on October 13, 2009, 10:24:52 am
Nah, friend has a chalet in town so staying there. Just got some cheap flights with Jet 2 so all sorted. Don't think we will have a car. Cheers for info Chris.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 13, 2009, 12:53:16 pm
Just booked a week in Morzine for February.
What are peoples thoughts on the place? I have only heard good things so far....

Never mind the town, the terrain is the dogs
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 13, 2009, 01:52:54 pm
Adam, there is a big article in the latest Fall line mag about the PdS. Woth buying or having a look next time you are in WHS. I'm sure your mate has plenty of knowledge, but drop a line if you want any info on off piste stuff, esp in the Les Gets area.   
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on October 22, 2009, 03:28:11 pm
the longest four minutes of this chap's life. drops in and then gets caught in big avalanche. you can hear his breathing getting faster and faster and his whimpering. yikes.

http://gizmodo.com/5366887/pov-helmet-cam-captures-skier-causing-avalanche-getting-buried-and-getting-rescued (http://gizmodo.com/5366887/pov-helmet-cam-captures-skier-causing-avalanche-getting-buried-and-getting-rescued) :o

sorry don't know how to embed.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 27, 2009, 07:01:10 pm
Terrifying indeed, so on a lighter note -

Jeremy Jones' soon to be released split-boarding, camping and hiking extravaganza in AK (well it's Canadia really isn't it).

http://www.tetongravity.com/videos/Deeper-Trailer-abigmountainsnowboardfilm-807352.htm (http://www.tetongravity.com/videos/Deeper-Trailer-abigmountainsnowboardfilm-807352.htm)

Photos of same - http://danmilner.com/snow.html (http://danmilner.com/snow.html)

Dear Santa, please can I have a copy of Jezza's vid ....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 28, 2009, 08:08:20 am
I used to get the TGR DVDs every year, but haven't got one in ages. Time I changed that I reckon.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: mark on October 28, 2009, 11:21:33 am
Jeebus, that looks stupendous. I note that at the end of the trailer Johan Olofsson's name pops up. I remember him from films of old riding faster and bigger than anyone else. Then he seemed to disappear. He's probably been living in an igloo for the past decade doing horrendously dangerous lines.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on October 28, 2009, 01:25:58 pm

Photos of same - http://danmilner.com/snow.html (http://danmilner.com/snow.html)


i'm glad he's got a new website. i rate him very much as a mtb photog. nice burb sth and rushup footpath pics too - you in them norton?   ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on October 29, 2009, 01:20:48 am
In my dreams I do what JJ does . Can't wait for that video too  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on October 30, 2009, 03:13:49 pm

Photos of same - http://danmilner.com/snow.html (http://danmilner.com/snow.html)


i'm glad he's got a new website. i rate him very much as a mtb photog. nice burb sth and rushup footpath pics too - you in them norton?   ;)

I couldn't possibly admit to taking a 'foreign' photographer out for a few days in the Peak to ride our finest footpaths trails.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on October 30, 2009, 09:17:02 pm
It's ok big man, I'd already worked out it was you. Who else would have a size XXS Orange Five.......     ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 05, 2009, 11:43:27 am
 :off:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 11, 2009, 09:49:55 am
Looks like Whistler is get an unceremonious dumping of snow and opening this weekend. Wankers.

Andy, you on it? Before the place descends into Olympic mayhem?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on November 11, 2009, 07:14:05 pm
Looks like Whistler is get an unceremonious dumping of snow and opening this weekend. Wankers.

Andy, you on it? Before the place descends into Olympic mayhem?
I shall be up soon - all the hills round here got a lot of snow over the past week.
I think we'll be heading to the interior or the Island for snow whilst the olympics are on......
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 11, 2009, 07:49:09 pm
A good call, methinks
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on November 16, 2009, 04:52:31 pm
A good call, methinks
It was a fantastic first day of the season - lots of powder everywhere, though base was lacking, so you had to watch out for the occasional rock - went for a short hike and had bottomless turns and powder spraying over my head - welcome back winter  :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 16, 2009, 06:26:13 pm
Tosser ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 12, 2009, 05:47:46 pm
I'm in training for Tignes and learning to snowboard- ouch! My knees hurt. I'm getting excited about buying a board, I'm gonna go for this one:

(http://www.style4miles.com/ekmps/shops/style4miles/resources/image/rome-artifact-1985-153.jpg)

with some cheap-ish Solomon bindings. £400 in total though  :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2009, 06:32:31 pm
Nice board.

Graphics would be nice if you were about 12. Besides isn't it a jib board? Not what you want for learning on.

Seriously, do not buy for your first trip. If you really want to spend some cash, money is better spent on a decent comfy pair of boots and hire a board. If you buy a an advanced board you will struggle to learn on it, and if you buy a beginners board you will soon  find it too soft when you progress.

And don't buy cheap bindings, they will probably last you longer than the boards will.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 12, 2009, 07:16:39 pm
Generally :agree:

That 'looks' like a jibbing board so would be better for learning on than a freeride board but as SAChris says don't buy anything except some boots.

Oh and if you want some bindings PM me, Ride FX/LX or something, £30 +p&p and they're yours.  They're cheap so go against the above sentiment but that's cos' they're second hand but still work mind.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: clm on December 12, 2009, 08:28:37 pm
thats the vilest board i have ever seen! Do you wear skinny jeans? Please don't buy it. I go la plagne next saturday. Please be snow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: clm on December 12, 2009, 08:36:41 pm
...and 153 is fairly small andi. Are you a stump?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2009, 09:21:07 pm
...and 153 is fairly small andi. Are you a stump?
It's a jib board so meant to be ridden short, but you would be daft to buy a jib board to learn on.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 12, 2009, 11:24:32 pm
Apparently it's a beginner's jib board, which is what i want...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 12, 2009, 11:27:42 pm
Trust me, you don't. From what I can see that is a reverse camber board, and will be bad to learn on. You want to learn to ride before you learn to jib or go into the park.

I repeat, do not buy a board before your first trip. If you have mates who are out there they should be able to hook you up with cheap hire, or you can borrow a board from someone.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 13, 2009, 12:08:43 am
Yeah i've been dissuaded and rtold TSA were trying to rip me off...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2009, 10:15:33 am
How unusual. From my experience the shops are sheltered employment for the terminally choadish.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Tiberius on December 13, 2009, 02:12:19 pm
Yeah i've been dissuaded and rtold TSA were trying to rip me off...
Well TSA itself won't try to rip you off, but they employ mamy people, some of whom can't really remember what a beginner needs and may try to sell you their own preferences...something that never happens in the climbing world  ;)

If it's your first trip and you have no experience then I agree with above posters, don't bother buying a board. Boots mean you don't have to stuff you feet into someone else's sweaty remnants, but snowboard boots can be expensive. I just bought my son snowboard boots and climbing shoes. £160 for the snowboard boots, expensive for a once a year trip (not so bad for us, we live near Cas XScape, so they will get a lot of use...but still, snowboarding is an expensive hobby compared with climbing.

Try www.snowboardclub.co.uk (http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk) the forums have a lot of information and help on them. Generally I find climbers are similar to snowboarders...but not as fat.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 13, 2009, 07:15:58 pm
we live near Cas XScape

Next time you drop by Cas Vegas, come see me on rentals, I'll be the floppy blond-haired one with the moon or prana beanie on!

Seeing as how I get to ride all the time, it might be worth getting a board in a few months, once i can get down from the top to the bottom without rolling over multiple times, do a few things on kickers/boxes etc...

I've been recommended a board like this one:

http://www.romesnowboards.com/product/boards/addictive-collection/ (http://www.romesnowboards.com/product/boards/addictive-collection/)

due to its shape it should be easy to ride, and is a good all-rounder.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 13, 2009, 07:35:30 pm
http://ridesnowboards.com/boards/society (http://ridesnowboards.com/boards/society)  or that one!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2009, 08:24:15 pm
The grahipcs on that Rome board are nothing short of horiffic.

If you are working in rentals you should be able to get a few boards on the slope to get a feel for what you want and don't want. Plus you should progress pretty fast if you are working there, so don't buy anything for a while.

And my advice is avoiding boxes, kickers and shit until you can go top to bottom with linked carved turns properly and confidently.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 13, 2009, 08:50:30 pm
And my advice is avoiding boxes, kickers and shit until you can go top to bottom with linked carved turns properly and confidently.

I'm heeding that advice already! I'm really not confident so hitting a box doesn't seem like a good plan! My friend keeps trying to convince me to hit a box but i'm climbing strong at the moment so i don't want to ruin that with a cast or something!

If you are working in rentals you should be able to get a few boards on the slope

nope, we only have one type of board...

The grahipcs on that Rome board are nothing short of horiffic.

shush  :P
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on December 13, 2009, 09:00:20 pm
Got a mate who's been boarding for 9 years. Managed to break a wrist completely all bar 5mm of bone coming off a box wrong at Cas. Stick to them turns dude.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on December 13, 2009, 09:19:42 pm
Are you buying that board off stevie wonder, andi?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: clm on December 13, 2009, 10:01:53 pm
go do a season and stop fagging about indoors.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2009, 10:14:02 pm
definitely, if you are done with uni now.

But on the board front do not buy a board with daft graphics that are "in" for a season, or else you will look like a mug the next year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 14, 2009, 05:57:29 am
top to bottom with linked carved turns properly and confidently.

What, is the place empty and got a whole load bigger?  Most quality jibbers I see can't do linked carved turns anywhere.  Freeriding and jibbing are as mutuallly exclusive as bouldering and chuffing imho  :shrug:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 14, 2009, 08:45:01 am
top to bottom with linked carved turns properly and confidently.

What, is the place empty and got a whole load bigger?  Most quality jibbers I see can't do linked carved turns anywhere.  Freeriding and jibbing are as mutuallly exclusive as bouldering and chuffing imho  :shrug:
Are we talking about dicking about at Castleford here, or the bigger picture? I thought Andy was away to the Alps soon? And, IMO, anyone should learn to ride a board properly before going anywhere near any park, so they a) don't look like a prat b) have less chance of hurting themselves and c) don't clog the park with people lying at the bottom of jumps, getting in the way and being a hazard to other users.

And where was I tellinh him to learn to freeride? Being able to do a few linked turns is hardly freeriding.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Tiberius on December 14, 2009, 09:40:09 am
Way too many freestylers can't ride for shit (including a couple of 'professionals). The only 'riding' they do is to get from one rail to the other. As a posted pointed out above, think boulderers and propper climbers :)

Personally for a first boad, something like the Atomic Hatchet is a good all rounder at a very reasonable price (i.e. less than £200).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on December 14, 2009, 10:31:51 am

Slightly off topic but....

Can anyone recomend a snowboardign DVD as a Christmas Present. The lad in question (the missus' cousin) is pretty keen and has got quite a few already so something I reckon something new to increase the chance of him not having it.

I instantly thought of the new Jeremy Jones movie but that's not out yet. Shall I just get TGR's lastest offering or is there anything that's "standout" at the mo.  :shrug:

(I thinking a freeride/park mixture as he does both).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 14, 2009, 11:16:26 am
Get "That's it, that's All" the Travis Rice one. best I have seen in a while, if he doesn't have it.

Nice mix and some amazing footage.

I love the TGR ones, but unless they have a an interest in skiing too then large sections might not appeal.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Tiberius on December 14, 2009, 04:52:38 pm
...Managed to break a wrist completely all bar 5mm of bone coming off a box wrong at Cas.
I took my wrist off the top of my arm riding down a mountain. Split the Ulna down the middle and peeled it apart. Was funny, my arm looked like it was bent in a kind of a U shape.

Spent 3 days in Grenoble hospital having it hammered back into shape, missed the middle of the holiday and didn't get to ride until the day b4 we came home (complete with a cast on). I wasn't climbing at the time, but would probably have put me out for 6 month or so.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: clm on December 15, 2009, 06:44:19 am
And my advice is avoiding boxes, kickers and shit until you can go top to bottom with linked carved turns properly and confidently.

I with chris on this. Andi, if you start jumping you'll find yourself coming off stuff carrying a shit load of speed, often with you board in an unusual position under you. It can get quite messy quite quickly. Learn to ride well first.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 15, 2009, 12:22:36 pm
top to bottom with linked carved turns properly and confidently.

What, is the place empty and got a whole load bigger?  Most quality jibbers I see can't do linked carved turns anywhere.  Freeriding and jibbing are as mutuallly exclusive as bouldering and chuffing imho  :shrug:
Are we talking about dicking about at Castleford here, or the bigger picture? I thought Andy was away to the Alps soon? And, IMO, anyone should learn to ride a board properly before going anywhere near any park, so they a) don't look like a prat b) have less chance of hurting themselves and c) don't clog the park with people lying at the bottom of jumps, getting in the way and being a hazard to other users.

And where was I tellinh him to learn to freeride? Being able to do a few linked turns is hardly freeriding.

Sorry your post just gave me this image of peeps graciously carving down Cas slope  ;D ;)

How frozen is the ground up your way now Chris?  Is it going to be a bumper year in Scotland?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 15, 2009, 12:28:15 pm
It's shaping up pretty well. Top of 'gorm has been open for a couple of weeks, and rest of resorts are improving. Loads of routes getting done, but snowcover is developing slowly. Another cold snap forecast for weekend, hopefully ground will freeze so base can start building. Might be able to finally fullfil an ambition to board Black Spout Gully this year.

Hopefully it will be a bumper year, as we aren't going to be able to stray too far this winter, due to an imminent arrival. First year with no ski trips abroad since 1995!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on December 15, 2009, 04:31:06 pm
First year with no ski trips abroad since 1995!
Ooooh - sucks to be you  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 15, 2009, 04:45:45 pm
I had to unsubscribe to the Whistler email letters - every one was like a knife through my heart!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2009, 09:13:19 am
How frozen is the ground up your way now Chris?  Is it going to be a bumper year in Scotland?

All resorts now have some uplift running except Glencoe. If this snow continues and there are no big thaws or high winds, hopefully some base will be established and the season will be up and running (touch wood).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on December 24, 2009, 08:13:58 pm
Had a suprisingly nice session in the Peak early this morning.... First time I've bothered to take a snowboard out in the Peak and we had a great time - particularly on the occasions when the fog lifted and the sun peeped through. Obviously it will all have melted again by now, but it was well worth bothering. No-one out there either (possibly due to us arriving before 9am having dropped the little'un off at the child minders) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 24, 2009, 08:25:08 pm
We had a nice mellow session in pontefract park last night- just enough snow to carve, and a nice long run plus a few things to jib and a kicker we built. Great fun, never thought I'd ride powder in England...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Tiberius on December 25, 2009, 11:25:16 pm
Boo, nobody told me they were snowboarding in Ponte Park, it's just down the road from me...mind u, I'm off to Slovakia on Sunday, so don't really want to risk braking nething before I go
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 25, 2009, 11:46:22 pm
For future reference, park at the racecourse car park and head up the hill to the water cooler, then head down the hill. there are a few bunkers to hit which mean you have a drop followed by a kicker which is awesome fun.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Davey_C on January 02, 2010, 09:08:02 pm
never thought I'd ride powder in England...

We've got a couple of places in the North East that have pretty good snow cover at the moment.

http://www.skiweardale.com/ski/current.aspx (http://www.skiweardale.com/ski/current.aspx)
http://www.yadmoss.co.uk/snowreport.php (http://www.yadmoss.co.uk/snowreport.php)

It's not a patch on the likes of the Cairngorms, never mind Europe - but's it's good fun and only about an hour from where I live  :dance1:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 05, 2010, 12:16:26 pm
The Peak District this morning - http://www.tetongravity.com/videos/Deeper-Unplugged-The-Gervasuti-Couloir-Episode3-875636.htm (http://www.tetongravity.com/videos/Deeper-Unplugged-The-Gervasuti-Couloir-Episode3-875636.htm)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 05, 2010, 12:21:10 pm
Mam tor gully should be coming in....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 05, 2010, 12:34:40 pm
Mam tor gully should be coming in....

You could probably have skied it the other day...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2200/4237511608_36ff741d96_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slackline/4237511608/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: ben on January 05, 2010, 12:37:35 pm
who'd have thought it, Tim making it onto UKB winter climbing..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 05, 2010, 12:50:43 pm
Quote
You could probably have skied it the other day...

Nah, I was up there. You want a lot of snow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 05, 2010, 12:56:53 pm

Where are the best places to earn some turns in the peak then? I've got a touring set up so happy to hike or skin. The only place I've really heard of is Lose Hill.

Anymore prime spots or are they hush hush?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 05, 2010, 12:58:06 pm

Where are the best places to earn some turns in the peak then? I've got a touring set up so happy to hike or skin. The only place I've really heard of is Lose Hill.

Anymore prime spots or are they hush hush?

Some suggestions here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,13246.0.html)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 05, 2010, 03:55:27 pm
Thinking of heading out to Mam Tor/Lose Hill area tomorrow if possible. Anyone out there fancy an adventure (preferable someone who owns a landy  :goodidea:)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 05, 2010, 05:56:56 pm
Hitting up Burley Park for (taking photos of) a rail session... Stoked.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Sloper on January 05, 2010, 06:30:41 pm
Lots of snow coming down now, it's small fine powdery stuff rather than the big wet flakes we had earlier.

Air temp is around 0 so it could be good.

I say this as a non boarder but there are some good looking slopes in the re entrant valley between school lane and the road up to higgar.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: erm, sam on January 06, 2010, 10:31:28 am
Sam! I'm thinking of taking Thursday off, it conditions still merit it...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 06, 2010, 10:47:11 am
Thursday morning is a Peak possibility for me. Need to be in the office for 12, but would like to get some turns in.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 06, 2010, 01:08:45 pm
Went up to Jacob's Ladder in my lunch break for a quick look. Road totally clear. Felt like a good base with cold, light snow drifting on top. Was pissed off that I didn't have anything to ride, but it has inspired me to get up there first thing in the morning.

Anyone else going?

any of you lot been today?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 06, 2010, 01:16:50 pm
At work etc. Reports on the other thread. Another guy at work got down Mam tor yesterday, sounded good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: nai on January 06, 2010, 01:41:08 pm
I've been out but didn't know where JL was so did some runs down the field opposite the pub.  there's a couple of kickers and alright if short runs, plenty of fresh snow still.

might see you there in the morning, have a feeling I won't be in work again.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4251084494_2d7d269f33.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijt/4251084494/)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on January 06, 2010, 01:55:18 pm
To get to Jacobs Ladder park next to the Norfolk Arms pub in the layby and walk back down the road towards Sheffield for 50 metres until you come across a footpath on the left. Go down this until you feel the urge to strap on your board and get involved. Its not more than 5 minutes from the car.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 06, 2010, 02:07:57 pm
The path down goes from the corner of the pub car park, cross two fields and you're there. Kickers high on left and low on right. Top middle is getting a bit caned by sledgers.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on January 06, 2010, 02:15:13 pm
The path goes from the road - its signposted. You can do it from the corner of the pub car park, but this isn't a path, goes through a hole in the wall and fence, and upsets the landlord. Mind you, theres so much snow out there i'm suprised anyone has noticed this isn't the path
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 06, 2010, 02:17:17 pm
Yeah, just thought it simpler than '50yds from layby'.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: nai on January 06, 2010, 02:28:36 pm
Cheers guys, sounds easy enough either way.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 06, 2010, 05:17:25 pm
went to armley park today, epic foot-deep powder!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on January 06, 2010, 06:50:17 pm
Not sure the word epic can be used for 12 inches of powder. Apparently they were balls deep in pow on Mam tor today (and they weren't lying on their fronts either...)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 06, 2010, 10:14:18 pm

Not sure about balls deep, (apart from climbing over the odd stile where it had drifted).

Looking down towards car park..
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2685/4252360530_57c87cbbac.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4252360530_57c87cbbac.jpg)

Top bit of Gully
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4252360546_2fbb805468.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4252360546_2fbb805468.jpg)

Bottom bit of gully
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2710/4252360542_87f748bde6.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4252360542_87f748bde6.jpg)

First turns...
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4252360522_c286e4804c.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4252360522_c286e4804c.jpg)

Not bad for the Peak..
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4252360548_8d928d1cd3.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4252360548_8d928d1cd3.jpg)

Me, Landy and Andy (note Sam and friends walking up in back ground - respect)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4252360534_d9a72c9fb9.jpg/bmi_orig_img/4252360534_d9a72c9fb9.jpg)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 06, 2010, 10:47:25 pm
You need to change the permissions on those pics if you're going to embed them  ;)

Might be an account wide setting thats preventing embedding of your pics as I can see them on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49746422@N00/) (and now have another UKB <-> flickr match  :))
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 07, 2010, 08:22:10 am

Good effoort Sam. Which slope/side of Mam Tor are you on? I can't get my bearings form the photos. Is it the Edale side? Looks like good snow.

Do you reckon it'll take much to make the Gully ski/boardable?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 07, 2010, 10:38:31 am
 :-\

checked permissions, and they all seem to say public. Anyone else having bother.

It was the Edale side btw.

It wouldn't take much to fill the gully at all, just need the wind to blow in the right direction.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 07, 2010, 10:55:11 am
Had a lovely pre-work session at Jacob's ladder. Good soft, light snow. Even the stuff that the sledgers and plaggy baggers have been on is smoothish carvable hard pack.

Just me and the the alpacas there this morning.

Very happy.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 07, 2010, 11:00:36 am
The feeling of missing out on this is really getting to me.

Anyone fancy a session earlyish on Saturday morning at Jacobs Ladder?

Is the road up to the Norfolk Arms alright for crappy RWD cars?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 07, 2010, 11:14:30 am
It was pretty much clear on tues, I'm sure it will be bare tarmac by now.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 07, 2010, 11:24:32 am
Cool.  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 07, 2010, 11:44:22 am
Is the road up to the Norfolk Arms alright for crappy RWD cars?

Fine, even for old ladies in overpowered Lexi
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 07, 2010, 01:15:10 pm
Lovely out there. Not melting much either. Proper snow so it is. Psyched for the weekend.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 07, 2010, 06:50:16 pm
I'm hoping to get out for sunrise again in the morning. Some fresh flacons due tonight so could be good.

Just dug out an old (1991) alpine board (35o/45o )with hard boots in case I feel the need to carve up the sledge run - might try to find some Lycra to go with it so I can frighten the chavs.

Also been looking longingly at my old Supermodel fitted with some leather trimmed Salomon bindings. If we get a few more feet of powder....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 07, 2010, 08:23:24 pm
I'm hoping to get out for sunrise again in the morning. Some fresh flacons due tonight so could be good.

toying with the idea of trying to get out to join you word
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 07, 2010, 09:12:56 pm
toying with the idea of trying to get out to join you word

Look for an overweight, bald, unshaven slob with a hacking cough; he should be able to point you in my direction.


Word

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 07, 2010, 09:53:15 pm
Got out on my old rock board in the farmers fields across the road. Snow cover good (apart from catching an edge on what I assume was a frozen mud divot) but pitch not quite steep enough for slightly wet snow. Plus it hasn't seen any wax in well over 5 years. Actually considering giving it a wax and having another go. Shame I can't get further away but wee bairn is limiting options.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 07, 2010, 09:54:08 pm
going to glenshee in two weeks, pretty stoked!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on January 08, 2010, 08:53:17 am
Got out on my old rock board in the farmers fields across the road. Snow cover good (apart from catching an edge on what I assume was a frozen mud divot) but pitch not quite steep enough for slightly wet snow. Plus it hasn't seen any wax in well over 5 years. Actually considering giving it a wax and having another go. Shame I can't get further away but wee bairn is limiting options.

chances of making it to Aviemore some time next week (or for us actually being able to get up there for that matter)? or should we plan on an evening raid over to Aberdeen?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 08, 2010, 10:56:10 am
Another good morning session at Jacob's ladder.
If anyone wants a photo/pose opportunity, there is a drop-off from the wall about 5 feet left of the furthest right tree (far right of the field, looking down)) - should be possible to get a photo of a hero in the air with Sheffield city centre in the background (lighting might be tricky). I've filled in my landing craters and put more snow on the top of the wall.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 08, 2010, 11:02:33 am
Nice, hoping to be up there for last light this aft. Anyone?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 08, 2010, 11:02:58 am
time?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 08, 2010, 11:16:12 am
SamT, Mam Tor gully, first light this morning -

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4256538760_c8dc32fe43.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 08, 2010, 11:18:47 am
You chump, that's not Mam tor, its Winnat's.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 08, 2010, 11:19:38 am
Sorry, couldn't see what I was typing for me tits . . .
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 08, 2010, 11:20:20 am
Fuck a duck. What time shall I get to yours tomorrow word?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 08, 2010, 11:53:54 am
Dunno word, early? We might hit the swallet n'all.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 08, 2010, 11:57:29 am
Give me a time and I'm there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 08, 2010, 02:10:54 pm
metshit is saying light flipping rain for tomorrow morning!    :shrug:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 08, 2010, 02:12:35 pm
Only forecast worth reading:

Quote
Weather: Peak District
Some sunny intervals, but rather cloudy at times with snow showers blowing through on strengthening northeasterly winds. Snow will drift above 200 metres with some significant drifting over the higher plateaux. Very significant wind chill developing.

Visibility
Generally good, but moderate or poor in snow showers or in drifting snow over higher plateaux.

Hill fog
Not expected.

Maximum winds above 400m
Northeasterly 25 to 30 mph with gusts 40 to 45mph.

Temperature
Valleys Minus 7 rising to Minus 2 Celsius
600 m Minus 6 to Minus 8 Celsius
Freezing level Freezing at all levels.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 08, 2010, 02:15:00 pm
Only forecast worth reading:

Quote
Weather: Peak District
Some sunny intervals, but rather cloudy at times with snow showers blowing through on strengthening northeasterly winds. Snow will drift above 200 metres with some significant drifting over the higher plateaux. Very significant wind chill developing.

Visibility
Generally good, but moderate or poor in snow showers or in drifting snow over higher plateaux.

Hill fog
Not expected.

Maximum winds above 400m
Northeasterly 25 to 30 mph with gusts 40 to 45mph.

Temperature
Valleys Minus 7 rising to Minus 2 Celsius
600 m Minus 6 to Minus 8 Celsius
Freezing level Freezing at all levels.

I like your forecast JB, do you have an RSS feed for it I can subscribe to?  :P
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 08, 2010, 02:31:47 pm
SamT, Mam Tor gully, first light this morning -

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4256538760_c8dc32fe43.jpg)


Cool! What's the plan? A6187 to Castleton and then walk up??
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 08, 2010, 02:52:56 pm
Yeah, the tardis is parked at the top.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 08, 2010, 03:06:42 pm
Winnat's is apparently open but it will only take one knob to get stuck and blow it for everyone else behind.  I am being driven out tomorrow by said knob so make sure you get there before us.  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fj on January 08, 2010, 07:43:59 pm
A couple of shots from last nights sessions in the field opposite the Norfolk Arms off Sheep Hill Road.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4257562940_bc83109125_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4257571546_9f986fae6f_o.jpg)

Lets hope this is the future of British winters.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 08, 2010, 10:15:05 pm
Great pics  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 08, 2010, 11:28:49 pm

Val d'Ringinglow.. who'd have thought it... Nice work with the camera that man   8)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 09, 2010, 08:54:17 am
Good work.  Great pics.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 09, 2010, 05:56:27 pm
Not up to the arty standards above, but a few pics from today..

team UKb
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4260030012_a77c296c44.jpg)

Well, its cheaper than a lift pass  :'(
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4260029510_f3a91e8ebb.jpg)

Getting a bit choppy by lunch time
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4260031424_9de9b60484.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on January 09, 2010, 06:04:06 pm
It was fucking ace today.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on January 09, 2010, 06:13:40 pm
Jeez, I thought it would all have been tracked by now and I was up at 5am! If there's another dump I have Tuesday off....mind you I may be car-less by then :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 09, 2010, 06:49:09 pm

May be free Tuesday Morn, and free on Wednesday, but only going out to find some fresh turns, can't be arsed going back to MT unless we get a shit load more snow.

(crappy vid of) Norton getting fresh today...

Boarding on the flanks of Mam Tor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2Gq_JnOuo&feature=player_embedded#)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 09, 2010, 06:52:18 pm
SamT contemplating whether todays drop in will be more trouser filling than his Winnats experience, see thread below (or above depending on which way you scroll).

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4259391053_4375717e0c.jpg)


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/4259388741_ed262a9c0b.jpg)

A top day out and cheers for the lift back gents.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 09, 2010, 07:17:10 pm
For Cofe and the other muppets, more stuff from 'Winnats' earlier in the week  :lol:

The original photo that caused the trouble -

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/1932946367_5cd6a88b28.jpg)










the same descent and looking back up it, can you tell which bit of Winnats it is yet?

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2726/4259480331_baa84c752f.jpg) (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4260236388_c76aa2fce9.jpg)





SamT hiking across the top of Great Gully to get to another great Winnats descent.  :lol: :lol:  :lol:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2010/1932984971_9323a52df3.jpg)


those were the days  :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on January 09, 2010, 07:19:07 pm

May be free Tuesday Morn, and free on Wednesday, but only going out to find some fresh turns, can't be arsed going back to MT unless we get a shit load more snow.

(crappy vid of) Norton getting fresh today...


That was by far my worst run I should add, ahem  ::)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on January 09, 2010, 07:21:44 pm

Winnats looks awesome! Did Sam nearly top himself then?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 09, 2010, 07:37:44 pm

Not another one  ::)    :lol:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 09, 2010, 07:39:40 pm

Those were indeed the days...  :boohoo:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 09, 2010, 07:59:39 pm
Winds and a bit more snow forecast for The Peak. I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but still can't find any of my photos -  there's a little slope between Higgar and Stanage North which collects drifting snow. When the main slopes get stripped by wind and sun this place can be a good laugh if you take a shovel and build a few features. When the roads open up there it should be worth a visit.

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4909/higboard.jpg)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 09, 2010, 08:37:24 pm
chances of making it to Aviemore some time next week (or for us actually being able to get up there for that matter)? or should we plan on an evening raid over to Aberdeen?

How can I contact you stu? Only got your brother's email.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 09, 2010, 08:54:40 pm
chris, are you able to make it over to glenshee during the week or are you working?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 09, 2010, 09:03:33 pm
Hi Andi, either working or looking after bairn I'm afraid. Apparently good conditions though, and midweek is best time. Think it was fully heaving today and will be same tomorrow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 09, 2010, 09:35:18 pm
oh aye, the wain! i forgot about him. ah well, i'll dedicate a run or two to the good health of your family  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 10, 2010, 08:44:11 pm
Cheers!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on January 12, 2010, 02:25:29 pm
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4909/higboard.jpg)
Had a bit of a do at this today - it was fun. Depth of the snow is both amazing to ride on, and shit to walk in through, but you have to put a bit of effort in to reap the rewards. Don't bother trying to drive in up School Lane at the moment - we rode back down some of it! We walked/waded in from Millstone
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 12, 2010, 02:56:57 pm
Is the snow up there still powdery?

Looks like we've got another couple of cold nights left and if my cold doesn't get any worse I'll have another early morning session on Thursday. Maybe even a quick hour or two on Weds afternoon.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 12, 2010, 04:46:06 pm
Jacob's ladder had a couple of extra inches of fresh on it yesterday evening, but damper, slower stuff. The damp was also meaning the base is getting cut up more easily Its got a good few runs in it yet mind.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Percy B on January 12, 2010, 06:30:37 pm
The snow on the tops is still good - no thawing has happened funnily enough. It isn't proper powder anymore - more consolidated and a bit stickier, but still a good laugh (and abundant - did I mention that before?!)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 12, 2010, 10:00:57 pm
We've had a massive thaw the last few days. Felt wierd to see green fields after 3 1/2 weeks of white. Still a lot inland though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fj on January 13, 2010, 12:30:00 am
A few photos from tonights jacobs ladder session

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4270385158_234c91e901.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4269641233_8a4ccdee86.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4269636975_ea62338a83.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4270378122_8fe415d878.jpg)

The snows still good, but there was some freezing rain when we were leaving, but hopefully it'll get colder and snow again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 13, 2010, 01:46:51 pm
Dalik HQ rail session from last week:

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17334_806341494999_197815253_48716144_4564180_n.jpg)
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17334_806341509969_197815253_48716147_6292963_n.jpg)
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs146.snc3/17334_806341514959_197815253_48716148_4782382_n.jpg)
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs126.snc3/17334_806341529929_197815253_48716151_4777066_n.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 19, 2010, 11:25:02 pm
A few turns from last week.

No rails, no air, no sponsored heroes; just me and some alpacas.

Peak District Snowboarding: January 2010 (http://vimeo.com/8850827)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on January 20, 2010, 12:32:52 am
Good for the soul that Largers, nice one.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 20, 2010, 08:28:43 am
Wow, not heard any Northside for a while! Brilliant  :great:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 05, 2010, 03:16:48 pm
Off to Morzine in the morning. Anyone got any tips of decent off-piste stuff?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2010, 03:30:20 pm
I know they are getting dumped on right now, according to family in Les Gets. head for Mont Chery at Les Gets, esp the back side. Also good stuff off Nyon & Chamossiere chairs. And more tree riding than you can shake a stick at.

Avoriaz has tons, some really good stuff over the back into Switzerland towards Champery.

Chatel area is not worth the effort getting to it IMO.

Will you have touring kit, or you relying on lifts?

And will you have a car?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 05, 2010, 03:37:32 pm
I know they are getting dumped on right now, according to family in Les Gets. head for Mont Chery at Les Gets, esp the back side. Also good stuff off Nyon & Chamossiere chairs. And more tree riding than you can shake a stick at.

Avoriaz has tons, some really good stuff over the back into Switzerland towards Champery.

Chatel area is not worth the effort getting to it IMO.

Will you have touring kit, or you relying on lifts?

And will you have a car?

No car, no touring kit. Needs to be lifts....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2010, 05:12:30 pm
I suspected as much. All the above then. And keep an eye on Avi risk.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 06, 2010, 06:19:10 pm
Just watched the vid Lagers, very nice, very peaceful.  I thought you captured the soul of the Peak District riding scene perfectly.  :thumbsup:

It was so good it nearly made me unpack my bags which are ready for Saas Fee tomorrow.   :-\
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2010, 07:58:32 pm
Good for the soul that Largers, nice one.
My pre-work sessions made me very happy indeed
Wow, not heard any Northside for a while! Brilliant  :great:
I could remember how the music I wanted sounded, but couldn't remember the soddin' name of the band - I had to google to find it and then look through my pile of old music tapes for the right track  :-[
Just watched the vid Lagers, very nice, very peaceful.  I thought you captured the soul of the Peak District riding scene perfectly.  :thumbsup:

The end result was better than I thought I would get.

When the snow had finally gone I was pissed off that out of 5 sessions I only took the camera out twice, and the first time I forgot the tripod. I had only a small amount of footage worth showing (and some of the shots looked very similar), but mirror flipped it, cut it at different points and changed the speeds to make it seem like more was going on (I don't ride fakey that well). I also managed to shoot some in 16:9 and most in 4:3; so I letterboxed the lot to make it look consistent.

Glad you lot liked it
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on February 15, 2010, 02:25:52 pm
off to meribel on saturday.

snow forecast for this week:
tuesday: snow
wednesday: snow
thursday: snow
friday: snow
satuday: snow

35cm expected this week.

 :kiss1: weather
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2010, 02:56:10 pm
Only 35 for the week? ;)

It's been very cold though, so anything that has fallen has stayed good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bowie on February 15, 2010, 03:20:40 pm
yeah the temperatures look v low for the time of year (last couple of years ive gone early march and been blown away by how hot its been).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 17, 2010, 11:23:47 am
Are you into your off piste Bowie?  Is so I can PM, or post on here, so extra special Courchevel runs.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 18, 2010, 12:15:16 pm
White just walks away with the Gold for pipe. No one even looked in the same league really. What a last run!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 18, 2010, 12:36:46 pm
some moaning blether


edited!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 18, 2010, 12:39:24 pm
Cheers for giving it away Adam, was studiously avoiding news pages so I could enjoy it this evening. Inevitable result, but would have been nice to watch without knowing.

Didn't even think people would be saving the result! Oops. Second spanking of the week then...  :spank:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 18, 2010, 12:41:38 pm
Edit it, there may be others like me who can still be saved!!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 18, 2010, 12:46:48 pm
Too late
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 18, 2010, 07:01:49 pm
White just walks away with the Gold for pipe. No one even looked in the same league really. What a last run!
Was just amazing - on his own in that competition.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 19, 2010, 03:57:21 am
For those who may have missed it (http://ilovepwnage.com/video.php?v=NjA1OQ==)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 19, 2010, 11:47:27 am
Not Winnats this time, but Meagaidh, and actually true!!! OMFG

http://www.youtube.com/v/ONjyXOewk9E (http://www.youtube.com/v/ONjyXOewk9E)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: cofe on February 19, 2010, 11:49:19 am
Jesus titty fucking christ
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 19, 2010, 11:56:47 am
I was up there last week, fuck ice climbing lets go riding!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 19, 2010, 12:02:30 pm
 8)
Was breaking trail up stuff like that over xmas. Tooks us 4 hours to walk up Fionn Bheinn. Got to the top just as two ski tourers summited. Only took them two hours and they flew down. Wished I'd bothered to take my board. Took ages to get down.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 19, 2010, 12:41:54 pm
Not Winnats this time, but Meagaidh, and actually true!!! OMFG

http://www.youtube.com/v/ONjyXOewk9E (http://www.youtube.com/v/ONjyXOewk9E)

 :o
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 19, 2010, 01:38:48 pm
Anyone know what conditions are like in Lakes snow wise? Due for a bit more mid week, but was wondering if there are any hikes to be had with a decent downhill on a board on way back down?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 19, 2010, 04:59:58 pm
.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 19, 2010, 05:01:29 pm
Looks pretty good to me.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4369956495_88ee011342.jpg)

http://www.ldscsnowski.co.uk/index.html (http://www.ldscsnowski.co.uk/index.html)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 19, 2010, 05:05:20 pm
Might try and head up next week then. Drop me a pm if anyone else is keen...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 20, 2010, 01:22:51 pm
For those who may have missed it (http://ilovepwnage.com/video.php?v=NjA1OQ==)

typically understated american celebrations then   ::)

As Marky Mark Fun Park said to me... why cant they just do 360's and Methods.

Wish I could get to Scottish land
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 20, 2010, 06:18:53 pm
Well Sean used to just do 3's etc.  But that was when he was twelve!  I can't believe he's only 24.

What would he have done if that pipe had been in better - faster - condition?

For anyone who's not been, or is contemplating going, to Saas Fee then I can thoroughly recommend it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: mark on February 20, 2010, 10:12:04 pm
And here he is at 11 years old. I remember watching this round at Bubba's when TB3 or 4 or whatever the clip is from had just been released. How we laughed at the segment at around 56 seconds. Jealousy's a terrible thing!
Shaun White 11 years old (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYxY1LL3AUk&feature=related#)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 23, 2010, 01:08:47 pm
Not snowboarding, but ski touring conditions are all time at the moment.

Some pics from mate who was touring Sat & Sun.

http://www.muddymess.co.uk/v/100221?g2_page=2 (http://www.muddymess.co.uk/v/100221?g2_page=2)

And more snow forecast later in week! Still snow cover down to sea level here, temps barely climbing above freezing during day and plumetting at night. Get here if you can.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2010, 01:13:16 pm
once again I tell you, if you intend getting to scottish ski centres, now is the time. Cairngorm have got 1.5 - 2m in the last few days.

http://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/ (http://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/)

Planning a trip up to Glenshee on Tuesday.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 26, 2010, 01:45:12 pm
once again I tell you, if you intend getting to scottish ski centres, now is the time. Cairngorm have got 1.5 - 2m in the last few days.

http://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/ (http://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/)

Planning a trip up to Glenshee on Tuesday.

I think getting to the ski centres is going to be the issue! Thinking about next weekend when it's hopefully calmed down/settled.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on February 26, 2010, 01:52:20 pm
Glencoe ski site 'is world's snowiest' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8538404.stm)

 :o Thats a first!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2010, 02:09:54 pm

I think getting to the ski centres is going to be the issue! Thinking about next weekend when it's hopefully calmed down/settled.

Yes, will be at present, but of late they move heaven and earth to get the roads clear so the punters can get up to the resorts, especially at weekends. Cairngorm still seems to struggle though. Reckon it will be busy next weekend, but OK if you have touring kit ;), and due to the long run of good conditions they have had - pretty much fully open since Xmas, there isn't the mad rush when conditions are good like there used to be.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 26, 2010, 04:21:23 pm
Reckon it will be busy next weekend, but OK if you have touring kit ;), and due to the long run of good conditions they have had - pretty much fully open since Xmas, there isn't the mad rush when conditions are good like there used to be.

Yep, if I'm out on skis, it'll be touring. Might en up climbing out west though we'll have to see. Had a cracking day out on Beinn Bhan last weekend so I'm keen to keep up the winter climbing mojo.

My superlightweight touring set-up isn't exactly ideal for powder though. I'll just have to gloat lots on the up to make up for the ribbing on the descent as I follow my mates carving lovely big free-ride turns, only able to bounce down like an Austrian from 1974 without the style.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 26, 2010, 07:09:38 pm
 :lol:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on February 27, 2010, 06:38:45 pm
PLEASE HELP! :please:
I'm off boarding tomorrow and I am just trying to mount my bindings to my board (both new)but am lost as to what angles I should use and whether to have them set more towards the front slightly or back, my binding don't seem to be able to go dead centre on my board. I will be mainly on the piste for starters but will definitely heading off piste ASAP. I am a novice but I skateboarded alot for about 12years to a good level and seem to be picking up the snow version pretty quickly to say the least (oooh, get me..) and with this my natural stance seems to be with both my feet angles outwards quite a bit, my front maybe ever so slightly more so; I seem to be a bit bow legged from all that skating.
Also (yes indeedy, there's more) my boots overhang the board and I'm sure I heard this is to be avoided. Any advice is fully appreciated as I have only this eve to sort this as I'm on the slopes tomorrow. I understand I can tweak my set up once I'm out there but want to at least get on the right tracks (see what I did there..) setting it up initially.
Than you in advance
Jon
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 27, 2010, 06:47:16 pm
Personally, i have a flat front foot, and my back foot slightly angles out, by maybe 5 degrees. If your going to be riding powder you want the bindings further towards the back as you need to lift your nose more in the deep stuff  ;D

Its all very personal, and have some mates who ride duck stance. Not great for powder though.

Where you off?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on February 27, 2010, 06:51:43 pm
Val d'Isere. Canny wait.
Hmmm, my feet defo point outward naturally so I'll go with them I suppose. Any advice on the boot overhanging the board business? Is it worse to have heel or toe overhang? Could it be that my board is too narrow?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on February 27, 2010, 07:08:16 pm
Also (God I'm very demanding this evening..) should I wax my board tonight or leave the factory wax on for the first day and wax it that night? I should point out that the board is 'new' well actually about 3 years old (old stock) but I can see waxyness when i scape my nail over the base.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 27, 2010, 07:13:47 pm
Most people have 15/15 I think.

I'm off snowboarding at Tegness next week. Oh wait, no, sorry, Tignes.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 27, 2010, 07:15:40 pm
I would thoroughly recommend a duck stance for all riding.  Try at least 30o included angle, e.g. 15o forward front, 15o back on back binding.  I ride +21 front -18 back.  An all round set up might be 1" back, freestyle 0" back, powder 2" back.  If you skate duck, set up duck on your board.  Squat up and down adjusting your stance width and feet angle until you have something you can comfortably reach the front and back edges as if grabbing then use that to set your stance width.  As a rule of thumb your thigh bones should line up with your feet when fully flexed down, i.e. grabbing, but I would end up with +30 -30 if I used this so clearly it doesn't work for all.

Your board shouldn't need waxing for a while if it's got the factory wax on.  Scrape a finger nail over the base.   If you can see faint 'tracks' then there's enough wax.  If not get it waxed out there, they know what they're doing better.   :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 27, 2010, 07:18:28 pm
If not get it waxed out there, they know what they're doing better.   :)

And cheaper!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on February 27, 2010, 07:21:35 pm
Cheers for the knowledge lads, I presume duck stance means both feet pointed outwards? What about the boot over hanging the board, is it bast to have more of the heel than the toe overhanging or t'other way round or just try and make the overhang equal for both?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 27, 2010, 07:25:59 pm
equal
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 27, 2010, 07:26:04 pm
Cheers for the knowledge lads, I presume duck stance means both feet pointed outwards?

Duck stance
(http://www.boardworld.com.au/images/uploads/duck_stance.jpg)

As for boot overhanging, hard to tell without seeing how much by...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 27, 2010, 07:30:06 pm
The word from McNab on stance

http://www.0-21.co.uk/index.php/Setting-your-Stance.html (http://www.0-21.co.uk/index.php/Setting-your-Stance.html)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on February 27, 2010, 07:40:03 pm
Sorry for moidering you but my internet searches just seemed to give conflicting info. I'm nearly there and it's making sence so thanks alot for the help.

One last thing, Norton you mentioned an all round set up would be 1" back so I presume the front binding is centered but which slot (that the screws go through to fix the binding to the board, there's 2 of them for my 4x4) in the disk do you line up with the measurement on the board, is it the inner most one?

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on February 27, 2010, 07:47:00 pm
It probably easiest if you tell me which holes (out of the line of 6) i should put my screws into for an all round set up, for each binding counting back from the inner most. I promise this is my last question and I thank you for your time helping a punter like me. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 28, 2010, 10:37:41 am
Normally boards have a marker to show which is the centre set of holes.  If there is no marker the holes are likely to be set centred.  To check measure from the front, or back, set of holes to the front, or back, of the effective edge.  That is to the widest part of the board at the front, or back, but  not to the actual nose or tail as the nose and tail length will be different.  If the distance to the effective edge is the same front and back then the holes are centred.

To be honest put the bindings on and see how it feels.  Be prepared to change them until you have a set up that you are happy with and go too wide and bigger angles than you think to start with.

Your toe / heel overhang should be the same.  If you have decent bindings you can set this with the high back position rather than by moving the bindings from side to side across the board which generally indicates that something is very wrong, e.g. wrong width board for your boot size, too much high back lean pushing the boots forward etc.

The word from McNab on stance

http://www.0-21.co.uk/index.php/Setting-your-Stance.html (http://www.0-21.co.uk/index.php/Setting-your-Stance.html)

Word, he's the Man.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2010, 10:42:38 am
A word on binding angles - strap in and get someone to stand on the board so you don't tip over. Then crouch down as low as you can comfortably (keeping spine upright (no poostance!)). If you feel any strain across your cruciate ligaments (outside of knees) the setup is dangerous and you can trash the ligaments if you take a tumble. Not that you won't still if the setup is right, but this lessens your chances!

I like plus 15 on front and minus 6 or so on the back.

If you have too much overhang the board may be a bit small for your feet and or bindings. This may be a problem only if you are carving hard on hard snow, as it can dig in and throw the edge out. What Is your footsize and how wide is the board at the waist?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2010, 10:47:11 am
My superlightweight touring set-up isn't exactly ideal for powder though. I'll just have to gloat lots on the up to make up for the ribbing on the descent as I follow my mates carving lovely big free-ride turns, only able to bounce down like an Austrian from 1974 without the style.

I hear you. Aparently Atomic Beta Rides aren't cutting edge powder tools.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 01, 2010, 12:38:50 pm
My superlightweight touring set-up isn't exactly ideal for powder though. I'll just have to gloat lots on the up to make up for the ribbing on the descent as I follow my mates carving lovely big free-ride turns, only able to bounce down like an Austrian from 1974 without the style.

I hear you. Aparently Atomic Beta Rides aren't cutting edge powder tools.

You on BetaRides too or an ispired guess? I can't justify buying some new touring skis with the amount I ski now. I'll just have to stick with the dynafit/atomic combo.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2010, 02:33:24 pm
Bit of column A, bit of column B. I've got the R9:22s with fritshi bindings, and guessed as they were the touring ski of choice of about 6 years ago you would have similar. Likewise they are still in too good a condition and used too rarely to justify buying some phat new ones.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on March 01, 2010, 02:50:59 pm
Wow, wow, wow, boys  :off:

Bit like talking chuffing on the bouldering channel that I'm afraid  ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 01, 2010, 02:52:40 pm
Bit of column A, bit of column B. I've got the R9:22s with fritshi bindings, and guessed as they were the touring ski of choice of about 6 years ago you would have similar. Likewise they are still in too good a condition and used too rarely to justify buying some phat new ones.

I thought with your Snowboarding pedigree you'd be on a pair of "Narrow-Ass-Snowboards" as they're on a buy one get one free promotion. http://lib-tech.com/nas/pow/ (http://lib-tech.com/nas/pow/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on March 01, 2010, 03:02:55 pm
Not quite sure I get that.  Why would I want to ski on a pair of Libs, albeit when one is free, when I can ride a Lib board?  I have to say the best board I have ever owned by a mile was a Lib. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2010, 03:27:42 pm
When I got the skis I was still very much a skier who snowboarded, not the other way round. Also unconvinced by LT Making skis, the same way as i am unconvinced by their cambered boards with wobbly sides. Pre mangatraction etc they were lovely boards.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on March 01, 2010, 11:52:55 pm
TIGNES TOMORROW YYFY!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on March 02, 2010, 11:18:38 am
TIGNES TOMORROW YYFY!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

A few off-piste shots from our recent trip to wet your appetite!  ;D

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4401181232_78c5427911_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamlincoln/4401181232/)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4400414687_76aa40917a_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamlincoln/4400414687/)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4400414935_2244934b96_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamlincoln/4400414935/)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4400414787_c527308615_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamlincoln/4400414787/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 03, 2010, 10:12:53 am
Glenshee was fantastic yesterday. Bit icy at first, but softened up to excellent spring conditions, especially of Carn Aosda lift. Tiger still a bit icy, but some pockets of untracked windblown powder low down and scattered elswhere across mountain. Some fun moguls forming too. Hard work on draglifts most of the day on a snowboard though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 03, 2010, 11:16:54 am
Not totally snowboarding, but I only found out yesterday CR Johnson had died?

http://www.powdermag.com/features/news/cr-johnson-skier-dies-in-accident-at-squaw-valley/index.html/ (http://www.powdermag.com/features/news/cr-johnson-skier-dies-in-accident-at-squaw-valley/index.html/)

RIP.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 03, 2010, 12:54:07 pm
Not totally snowboarding, but I only found out yesterday CR Johnson had died?

http://www.powdermag.com/features/news/cr-johnson-skier-dies-in-accident-at-squaw-valley/index.html/ (http://www.powdermag.com/features/news/cr-johnson-skier-dies-in-accident-at-squaw-valley/index.html/)

RIP.

Yep, pretty sad. He put in so much effort to get back to where he was after the accident in 2005. His segment in Seven Sunny Days was quite inspirational, from re-learning to walk through to skiing at a top level again. He always seemed pretty open about the affect it all had on him and his fear when skiing big lines.

RIP
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 03, 2010, 01:06:54 pm
Yup, some of the stuff he does in the older Teton Gravity and Poor Boyz DVDs are great to watch.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on March 05, 2010, 12:18:40 pm
He has made it now!
(http://www.snowboardcanada.com/uploads/Image/Content/News/RollingStone-Full.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 09, 2010, 04:45:03 pm
http://www.60daysto.org/ (http://www.60daysto.org/)

I always find a certain irony that by visiting a ski resort abroad, you are probably destroying the very reason you have gone there. More so than travelling for any other reason (except maybe going winter climbing).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on March 26, 2010, 02:33:12 pm
Skiing but worth a post. Insane drop!

fat freeride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPXW9F5RuXw#)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on March 27, 2010, 10:35:59 pm
(http://www.snowboardcanada.com/uploads/Image/Content/News/RollingStone-Full.jpg)

The gop's dirty war against obama? what has he done to it, tried to ban millso camping under his project there?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 28, 2010, 10:48:15 am
Skiing but worth a post. Insane drop!


That second one is a really close call. Some guy in the Alps has broken Jamie Pierre's record - took a wrong turn and went off a huge cliff. Will see if I can find the clip.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on March 28, 2010, 07:32:40 pm
Sure they're insane drops but they don't actually land them so sharley they don't count?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 28, 2010, 08:24:33 pm
Quite.

"Not jumping, just falling with style" (to paraphrase Woody).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 14, 2010, 02:26:48 pm
http://www.relentlessenergy.com/followmedownfilm (http://www.relentlessenergy.com/followmedownfilm)

Just to get you a bit excited about coming winter. James Lavelle, Xavier la Rue and Jeremy Jones.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 09, 2010, 05:30:43 pm
Anyone got any recommendations for some decent snowshoes? Basically for hiking with my board in Scotland/Lakes this winter.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on November 09, 2010, 06:00:42 pm
Never used any, but the MSR ones look pretty compact which should be useful for packing away. I'm not sure you'd need them though to be honest, you'd be more sensible walking up the climbers' descent routes in most corries.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 09, 2010, 09:04:08 pm
Only times I've needed them in the the UK have been in very localised spots and wouldn't have been worth lugging them in. Some strap on crampons are a lot more use; snowboard boots are terrible for step kicking up neve.

And some telescopic ski poles.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on November 09, 2010, 10:11:54 pm
Anyone got any recommendations for some decent snowshoes? Basically for hiking with my board in Scotland/Lakes this winter.
Have used the MSR ones a lot - the best sort for mountainous terrain as they provide a lot more grip on firmer snow (especially when traversing slopes) - make sure you get some with heel elevators - makes walking up long slopes way easier.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 09, 2010, 10:12:44 pm
Cheers guys.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on November 10, 2010, 08:52:29 am

For those of you weirdos who seem to think a board is the way forward, remeber this is released this "fall":

Jeremy Jones' Deeper Trailer - A Snowboard Film (http://vimeo.com/7067445)

Even as a skier, it looks chuffing awesome.

(I think SAChris gave me the heads up about this last year)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2010, 09:46:06 am
I think I did ;)

I like the fact that TGR DVDs usually mix up the boarding and skiing, although this JJ one is obviously all about him. And it's more often big mountain riding than fucking about gibbing on shitty little rails like a lot of the DVDs. They are always worth a punt and just get better and better.

Any of the new parents planning on heading Alpsward with the nippers this year? I'm gagging for a trip, having got very little done last winter.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on November 10, 2010, 12:50:54 pm

Credit where credit's due Chris....

Andrew McLean (hardcore american ski mountaineer) raved about it on his blog, StraightChuter, saying they really put themselves out there. For him to say that bodes well.

Not got any nippers but will be heading Alpwards again this year, a week in Tignes in Jan. Rather inconsiderately, the missus' cousin has decided to spend the season in his apartment out there so we'll have to actually find somewhere for ourselves.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2010, 01:04:21 pm
Dashed inconsiderate what.

Things are getting whiter up here, just hope it consolidates to a base rather than getting stripped back again.

http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on November 10, 2010, 01:34:31 pm
Dashed inconsiderate what.

I know, admittedly it took a lot of dead relatives and some savings for the three cousins to get the necessary amount together for a studio so they might as well use it. The more annoying thing is since uni, he's had 2 sabbaticals from his job, one for a three month jolly in Columbia and this one for a winter on his board, and quite frankly, I'm jealous. He's only 28!

Things are getting whiter up here, just hope it consolidates to a base rather than getting stripped back again.

http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php)

That page is now bookmarked, cheers. I'll be getting the betarides out of the loft in anticipation!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2010, 01:47:29 pm
Beta Rides ho! Will be waxing mine in anticipation. Shout if you head up, hopefully have a bit more chance to get out this year.

http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/)

Is worth book marking too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 10, 2010, 07:31:25 pm

Things are getting whiter up here, just hope it consolidates to a base rather than getting stripped back again.


November optimism  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let's hope you're right and I'm wrong.  Especially since a trip to the Alps looks out of the question this (next) year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 10, 2010, 07:36:19 pm
Cynic. Did you look at the winterhighland link?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on November 10, 2010, 07:48:04 pm
Dashed inconsiderate what.

Things are getting whiter up here, just hope it consolidates to a base rather than getting stripped back again.

http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/webcams/index.php)
Things are looking good here too....
http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/weather/cams/index.htm (http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/weather/cams/index.htm)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 12, 2010, 10:14:31 am

November optimism 

Looks like Cairngorm are sharing in the optimism

http://www.winterhighland.info/snowreports/index.php?resort=cg (http://www.winterhighland.info/snowreports/index.php?resort=cg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 15, 2010, 12:34:45 pm

For those of you weirdos who seem to think a board is the way forward, remeber this is released this "fall":


Deeper is now out.  Saw the film, not the extras, on Friday and it's amazing what those idiots are now dropping!  It's all the more impressive because they've hiked up to the top in the first place rather than use a heli.  I suspect that they've got so much footage from two years of shooting that TGR have struggled to make a film that represents the project and that there will be a lot of good stuff in the 3 hours of 'bonus' footage.

imho the most impressive bit is the kicker Travis Rice builds, then the boys sitting out a 10 day storm 60 miles into the wilderness, and then when the storm clears Travis hitting said kicker first go like it is in some snow park  :o.  His alround riding ability is probably second to none?

Oh and JJ pooing himself dropping out of Tour Ronde in Cham.  Crampons and axes would have been more appropriate than a board and axes.  Serves him right for doing it in the summer.

£20 for a 1 hour DVD is a bit much but including the bonus stuff I suspect it's going to sell and sell...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: runt on November 16, 2010, 10:53:28 pm
Any of you bods bought season insurance lately? Snocard say they they're not offering it this season for Canada and the BMC want ~400 quid. cheers
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 17, 2010, 08:25:55 am
His alround riding ability is probably second to none?

I would say Terje Haakonsen is not far behind. just doesn't have the profile.

I tend to wait a while before buying the DVDs, price drops quick in the spring. £20 is a lot to ask. Or get someone travelling to the states to get it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 17, 2010, 01:20:16 pm
I was referring to contemporary riders.  Terje was THE MAN back in the day I agree.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: philo on November 25, 2010, 09:47:30 pm
tomorrow im off work and going for a few sweet steep hills near where i live.  I always walk the line (if i dont know where the fuck i am) as you always see the really thin wire that can decapitate you kicking around my way separating the fences etc.  Anyone else been out in the snow yet?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 26, 2010, 09:13:40 am
Been walking in it, and driving in it.

Will see what the weekend brings, Lecht and Glenshee are expecting to operate limited uplift for the weekend. Might head up Deeside and see what looks good.

November optimism continues further.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 26, 2010, 07:59:53 pm
Do you think that if I keep being pessimistic it'd help to keep Scotland in for a few months?  I'll do my best!

Give us a report after the weekend Chris?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2010, 09:34:43 am
You are a pessimist anyway, so just carry on as normal :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 27, 2010, 09:58:23 am
I'm not a pessimist, just a realist leaning towards being miserable  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 27, 2010, 05:01:33 pm
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs236.snc3/22364_479209105153_882835153_11389536_274925_n.jpg)

Anyone know where this is? I know its in England somewhere.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Serpico on November 27, 2010, 05:10:30 pm

Anyone know where this is? England somewhere?

Here? (http://www.yadmoss.co.uk/snow-and-weather-report)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 27, 2010, 05:11:52 pm

Anyone know where this is? England somewhere?

Here? (http://www.yadmoss.co.uk/snow-and-weather-report)

Yes! How did you work that one out?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Serpico on November 27, 2010, 05:13:57 pm

Anyone know where this is? England somewhere?

Here? (http://www.yadmoss.co.uk/snow-and-weather-report)

Yes! How did you work that one out?

By the magic of Facebook - AlisonH has a link to it on on her status update.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2010, 05:22:51 pm
Would have thought the Poma in the background was a clue, and it don't look like Scotland in the background.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 27, 2010, 05:25:20 pm
Would have thought the Poma in the background was a clue, and it don't look like Scotland in the background.

Well obviously it wasn't. All cool and smug points for you already being in 'the know' are in the post.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2010, 06:33:41 pm
Don't get all bertie bitterpiss now :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 27, 2010, 06:37:42 pm
Don't get all bertie bitterpiss now :)

I guess i shouldn't be so surprised! I've come to expect nothing less.
Was a genuine question, if i had a clue, i wouldn't be asking.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2010, 08:19:23 pm
Whatever.  Sorry if I hurt your feelings by stating what I thought was pretty obvious.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on November 27, 2010, 08:43:39 pm
by stating what I thought was pretty obvious.

I must be missing something then? How does a pic of a lift make things obvious? I knew it wasn't Scotland, but as this place is supposed to be a 'bad kept secret', a search on the internet didn't throw anything up? Don't worry, you succeeded in making me look small and clueless, nice one.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Davey_C on November 27, 2010, 09:13:40 pm
Yad Moss is about 45mins from my house, it's not bad for a day out. But it's been getting horrendously busy over the last few years.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2010, 09:16:33 pm
by stating what I thought was pretty obvious.

I must be missing something then? How does a pic of a lift make things obvious? I knew it wasn't Scotland, but as this place is supposed to be a 'bad kept secret', a search on the internet didn't throw anything up? Don't worry, you succeeded in making me look small and clueless, nice one.

Oh dry your eyes. It's about an hour or so from your house and is as far as I know the only uplift in the whole of England.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2010, 09:21:24 pm
My apologies, just googled and there a actually a few http://www.snowlion.freeuk.com/sitemap.html (http://www.snowlion.freeuk.com/sitemap.html)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 28, 2010, 10:47:32 am
Whatever, that guy needs to sort his stance out!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 28, 2010, 07:59:54 pm
Whatever, that guy needs to sort his stance out!

That's the UN Stance (Ultimate Neutral Stance); for people who want to go neither up, nor down. He looks to be using it to full effect.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gme on November 29, 2010, 09:56:09 am
Due to the amount of snow we have again, and the fact that i have a hill that seems to be frequented by these snowboarder types next to my house every winter i am keen to get hold of a board etc.

Anyone got an old one they want to sell, plus boots etc, around size 9-10 or failing that what size, type, colour etc do i need. never done it before but surf a lot and skate a bit.

Loads on ebay but i have no idea as to which to choose. Cant see me ever properly getting into it so probably just need some old plank to bomb down the hill.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 29, 2010, 10:12:30 am
The usual questions - how tall are you, how much do you weigh etc.

If you are just hacking down the local hill, just about any board will be fine. Provided the edges are reasonably intact and it hasn't delaminated. Board / binding / boot interface can have potential difficulties, which are lessened if you either get Burton board and binds, or avoid Burton for both board and bindings (I personally don't particularly rate their bindings anyway). Although there are workarounds if need be.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gme on November 29, 2010, 11:23:34 am
6`1" and around 80 Kg.

I presumed it would be similar to surfing in that you want a bit bigger, wider board to learn on.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on November 29, 2010, 12:17:16 pm
To learn you want a shorter narrower softer board.  No, really.  The wider and longer and stiffer the board the harder it is to turn.  As a rule of thumb a learner board wants to come up to no more than your chin (obvioiusly when you are standing holding it not strapped in!).  So you probably want a board somewhere around 158 - 162.  You want something cheap and shit to start on so avoid the big brands (e.g. Burton, Ride, Lib Tech, Rome) and see if you can get an ex-rental O'Sin?  You want soft bindings too not stiff ones.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 29, 2010, 12:31:28 pm
What NS said. You don't need buoyancy or stability like a surfboard - something smaller and softer is better, so you can get it to flex and turn without having to work too hard.

Anything will do to get you started, provided it is a conventional board shape, avoid things like cambered boards, unidirectional powder boards etc when you get started. And conventional two strap bindings that are the right size for the boots, so you don't wallow about.

If you see anything that you think might be OK anywhere, stick it on here for a second opinion.

And beware knackered out second hand boots, as if someone has worn them for a long time and padded out the foam to their footshape, they will be loose, cold and uncomfortable.

yes, it's a bit of a minefield.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: philo on November 29, 2010, 02:51:33 pm
Due to the amount of snow we have again, and the fact that i have a hill that seems to be frequented by these snowboarder types next to my house every winter i am keen to get hold of a board etc.

Anyone got an old one they want to sell, plus boots etc, around size 9-10 or failing that what size, type, colour etc do i need. never done it before but surf a lot and skate a bit.

Loads on ebay but i have no idea as to which to choose. Cant see me ever properly getting into it so probably just need some old plank to bomb down the hill.

take the trucks off a skateboard then haha
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gme on November 29, 2010, 04:21:23 pm
Did it on an old 6`4" round pin last winter. Was basically a very out of control sledge, totally desperate to try to turn and went from 0-60 in about 2 secs.

I think the rails were a bit thick and perhaps the tail was drawn out a bit to much.

Good crack but not really suitable.

Tried standing up on a disc shaped sledge this weekend which was similar and left me seeing stars on my back once it reached terminal velocity (again after around 2 secs)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: philo on November 29, 2010, 04:32:21 pm
hahaha brilliant.  I went out and bought a snowboard last season due to the heavy snow here.  Some of my mates go belting down the hills near where I live, and the last couple of days it has been amazing.  I have a short pretty shitty board but it does for what i need.  One of the lads (who lives away) had a skateboard with no wheels and as you mentioned, he was like a rocket with no controls.  Amusing either way! 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 29, 2010, 06:47:19 pm
You could always go for a snowskate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowskate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowskate)

A lot cheaper than buying board, boots and bindings.

Never seen one used on anything other than a piste though, maybe not ideal for bombing down a local hill.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chris05 on November 30, 2010, 09:03:12 am
You could always go for a snowskate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowskate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowskate)

A lot cheaper than buying board, boots and bindings.

Never seen one used on anything other than a piste though, maybe not ideal for bombing down a local hill.

They look good (and quite cheap), anyone here used one? Would want it for messing around in scotland when I'm up that way.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 30, 2010, 09:14:48 am
Unless you really know what you are doing, they are just about impossible to use on surface lifts, so limited to walking or aerial uplift. I tried one on piste and it is seriously hard, but then I am not much of a skateboarder. Like I sais, only ever seen them used (quite badly) on pistes, not sure about if they would be good on anything else. Probably some footage on youtube of someone tearing it up on one though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chris05 on November 30, 2010, 09:23:11 am
Just had a look and one like this looks quite good:

http://www.backyardsshop.com/santa-cruz-snow-skate-black.html (http://www.backyardsshop.com/santa-cruz-snow-skate-black.html)

Only want it for messing around on little hills around my parents house when I head up to see them, usually get snowed in, might provide some entertainment. Hmmm  :-\
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on November 30, 2010, 10:10:27 am

Those snowskates are hard. I'm no skateboarder (I've a longboard from my uni days but that's it) but I found them nails. They're pretty quick to get going and tough to manoeuvre. I spent most of my time on my ass on a green run, a blue piste felt like the living end.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 30, 2010, 10:30:20 am
Probably a few kicking about on fleabay, from experience they seem like the kind of thing people think are a really good idea, buy one, find out how hard it is and then relegate it to the back of the loft.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Slide on November 30, 2010, 01:42:47 pm
The worst bits of skateboarding & snowboarding combined. Unless you've serious skills in both then i would leave well alone.

 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: philo on November 30, 2010, 02:42:27 pm
Ambition Snowskates 2008 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OWQXvH3SwU#)

caution:  shaun white wannabe big perm hair is offensive to the eyes, you have been warned!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 01, 2010, 08:42:04 pm
Anyone got any yorkshire beta? SA Chris? Looking to get out this weekend and Armley Park just won't cut it. Can't afford time/money to get to Yad Moss before anyone suggests that!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: philo on December 01, 2010, 08:44:15 pm
If you do spot a random fuck off massive hill, always walk up the same way your coming down.  The very thin wire fences are sometimes impossible to spot!  Everywhere getting the snow now it seems.  Its more like thick ice/dirty whore snow up here. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 01, 2010, 08:47:43 pm
Yeah man, I know that trick! emergency ollies deployed in the past and lessons learned!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 01, 2010, 08:52:09 pm
Anyone got any yorkshire beta? SA Chris?

Sorry mate, the whole time I lived in Leeds it snowed twice. They were the lean years. Google maps? Ilkley?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tomtom on December 01, 2010, 09:04:15 pm
Ilkley would be a good plan - as long as the road up to cow and calf is clear... east facing places will have got the most of the drifts/wind...
T
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 01, 2010, 10:03:47 pm
Yad Moss

Where is this?  ;)
Off to Cairngorms in a bit, though bit worried about getting up there! We have snow chains though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 01, 2010, 11:06:36 pm
Well it's obviously in England duh.  :P
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Davey_C on December 02, 2010, 01:20:27 pm
Yad Moss

Where is this?  ;)

Before someone else gets in with this.....Let me google that for you! (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Yad+Moss&l=1)  :whistle:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on December 02, 2010, 01:26:11 pm
It was a pun from Adam as he posted a picture of the Yad Moss tow-lift asking where it was the other day (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8208.msg288026.html#msg288026) and received some gentle teasing (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8208.msg288030.html#msg288030) for not working it out.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on December 02, 2010, 06:48:36 pm
A mate of mine is a member of the Lake District ski club and had a good few days on their tow at Raise last winter. Members only but doesn't get too busy as it requires a good hour walk in.

http://www.ldscsnowski.co.uk/ (http://www.ldscsnowski.co.uk/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 04, 2010, 10:56:14 pm
Yad Moss

Where is this?  ;)

Before someone else gets in with this.....Let me google that for you! (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Yad+Moss&l=1)  :whistle:

 :wank:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 04, 2010, 10:59:01 pm
Just had 3 days in the Cairngorms. 1 perfect day. Could have been anywhere it was that perfect. (Did a great little hike off the back up Cairngorm mountain and down other side. Pretty fresh powder was had) Then one ok day, and then total white out today. Good start to the season  ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2010, 01:45:05 pm
Down to Loch Avon Adam? Would have been there, but free bars at Xmas parties on fri and sat night stopped play. Plus I'm a lightweight and can't handle drinking anymore.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 05, 2010, 01:49:39 pm
Down to Loch Avon Adam?

Not all the way, realised it was looking a bit dangerous avalanche wise and cut off. We didn't have any kit so would have been stupid.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2010, 01:52:51 pm
Very wise, a bit of windslab about.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 05, 2010, 02:02:26 pm
Very wise, a bit of windslab about.

Conditions!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5234559676_be7e2415a1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamlincoln/5234559676/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on December 05, 2010, 06:50:25 pm
Fun kicker session with CLM today in a quiet Peak venue with decent snow, bit crusty but nice, not sticky or icy even after yesterdays drizzle. Weather looks to stay cold. Met Office bro saying "Long range 10-15 suggests a renewed northerly plunge with increased risk of more sig snow..."  ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on December 12, 2010, 06:01:46 pm

For those of you weirdos who seem to think a board is the way forward, remeber this is released this "fall":

Jeremy Jones' Deeper Trailer - A Snowboard Film (http://vimeo.com/7067445)

Even as a skier, it looks chuffing awesome.

(I think SAChris gave me the heads up about this last year)

Finally got hold of a copy of this - some of the stuff they're doing is fucking insanity.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 12, 2010, 06:13:38 pm

For those of you weirdos who seem to think a board is the way forward, remeber this is released this "fall":

Jeremy Jones' Deeper Trailer - A Snowboard Film (http://vimeo.com/7067445)

Even as a skier, it looks chuffing awesome.

(I think SAChris gave me the heads up about this last year)

Finally got hold of a copy of this - some of the stuff they're doing is fucking insanity.

Just got hold of it. Will be watching later. Looks brill.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 13, 2010, 06:24:18 pm

For those of you weirdos who seem to think a board is the way forward, remeber this is released this "fall":

Jeremy Jones' Deeper Trailer - A Snowboard Film (http://vimeo.com/7067445)

Even as a skier, it looks chuffing awesome.

(I think SAChris gave me the heads up about this last year)

Finally got hold of a copy of this - some of the stuff they're doing is fucking insanity.

Just got hold of it. Will be watching later. Looks brill.

Was a great watch. Some of the effort they go to for such a short amount of ride time is a bit extreme. Very inspiring though.

Some others i have watched of late that are really good are

Cheers
The B Movie
Thats it thats all.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2010, 07:20:09 pm
Have you had a look at this that I linked to a few pages back?

http://www.relentlessenergy.com/followmedownfilm (http://www.relentlessenergy.com/followmedownfilm)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 13, 2010, 08:07:58 pm
Adam, have you watched the 3 hours of extras?  How are they? 

Have seen the film and well impressed, see posts above/below/sideways, but not sure whether to buy the dvd for the extras too?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 13, 2010, 08:59:12 pm
Adam, have you watched the 3 hours of extras?  How are they? 

Have seen the film and well impressed, see posts above/below/sideways, but not sure whether to buy the dvd for the extras too?

Not watched the extras yet. didn't realise it had 3 hours worth! Will have a look later.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 13, 2010, 09:00:25 pm
Have you had a look at this that I linked to a few pages back?

http://www.relentlessenergy.com/followmedownfilm (http://www.relentlessenergy.com/followmedownfilm)

Yep, cheers Chris. Was awesome.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2010, 12:53:21 pm
Mammoth is getting utterly creamed.

http://www.mammothmountain.com/MyMammoth/#mountainConditions (http://www.mammothmountain.com/MyMammoth/#mountainConditions)

Note the storm total is feet, not inches!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on December 22, 2010, 03:01:11 pm

http://snowboarding.transworld.net/1000140805/featuresobf/powder-and-rails-full-episode-tom-sims/ (http://snowboarding.transworld.net/1000140805/featuresobf/powder-and-rails-full-episode-tom-sims/)

Tom Sims Documentary for those interested in history.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on December 22, 2010, 08:11:06 pm
Great snow conditions over here in N.Wales, the usual runs all have good powdery snow with a good base...Moel Ellio was particularly splendid by the light of the full Moon,  8), folk going off the back of Y Garn, Cwm Casseg, and above the metaled water works road (on either ridge) in Ogwen. I've sacked off winter to much fun to be had on the board at the mo. Sweet!   ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2010, 08:38:55 pm
I've sacked off winter to much fun to be had on the board at the mo. Sweet!   

That makes no sense :)

Pics.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on December 22, 2010, 09:12:24 pm
I meant to say 'sacked off winter climbing'....so excited I can't get me words out..

got pics of Cwm Casseg, will finally get around to workin out how to post pics and give you boys and girls some inspiration for heading over. Get ya arses over, you won't be disappointed, promise.   :great:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2010, 10:06:44 pm
I somehow doubt I will be travelling from Scotland for it.

Sounds good though. Miles and Ding Dong out too?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 13, 2011, 03:03:10 pm
This morning I had the experience for the too-manyeth time: tottering anxiously up a piss-easy summit ridge in snowboard boots while my mates in ski mountaineering boots romp on ahead. Both embarrassing and frightening.

Can anyone recommend me some snowboard boots for touring with a decent vibram-style grippy sole?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Stubbs on February 16, 2011, 02:35:57 pm
New Brain Farm movie looks ridiculous

http://artofflightmovie.com/#ooid=VnbGox (http://artofflightmovie.com/#ooid=VnbGox)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2011, 02:41:14 pm
If anyone was thinking of a trip up to Scotland this winter, i would say this week coming would be a good choice.

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Glenshee/6day/mid (http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Glenshee/6day/mid)

been snowing in the hills on and off since Saturday.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on February 16, 2011, 05:22:03 pm
New Brain Farm movie looks ridiculous

http://artofflightmovie.com/#ooid=VnbGox (http://artofflightmovie.com/#ooid=VnbGox)

Indeed!  :jaw:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 17, 2011, 12:38:07 pm
 :o

50:50 on a tow wire  :o :o  Not to mention all the other crazy riding.

It's on the Christmas list already.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 15, 2011, 10:46:09 pm
I've always rated BMC insurance but just tried to book a week snowboarding insurance with them and they charge double the ski rate for boarders! Outrageous, there's no way boarding is more dangerous than skiing.  £52.50 for skiing, £105 for boarders!

Snowcard has gone up lots as well. Any other recommendations with off-piste cover?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on March 16, 2011, 06:43:00 am
Use standard travel insurance to get you home and buy a carte neige in France to get you off the hill.

Otherwise have you tried Dogtag?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Davey_C on March 16, 2011, 08:50:10 am
If anyone was thinking of a trip up to Scotland this winter, i would say this week coming would be a good choice.

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Glenshee/6day/mid (http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Glenshee/6day/mid)

been snowing in the hills on and off since Saturday.

Or now might be an even better time. The photos (http://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/) on the home page of the Cairngorm website looking amazing. I think I'm going to try and sort out a trip for next Friday......hopefully the weather won't be too mild between now and then.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 16, 2011, 09:17:12 am
Yup, has been an unholy dumping.

http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/)

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Cairngorm/6day/mid (http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Cairngorm/6day/mid)

Seems to indicate FL going above summits next week, so need to wait and see. I wouldn't take it as gospel though. And might just be a mini thaw to get things to consolidate with any luck.

Going to try get up one day of the weekend at least, and maybe midweek next week.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 16, 2011, 10:54:51 am
Really annoyed at the forecast - on Monday it didn't look like today would be all that good, but it's proper bluebird up glencoe. Going to head up tonight after work for a wee moonlit tour but it won't quite be the same as lapping it in daylight :-(

Oh well, c'est la vie!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 16, 2011, 12:19:37 pm
Aye, cams show it lookign excellent.

I texted Scott B asking what he was up to, and he was sitting on his ass at home. Sent him link to cams and he was out the door in 5 mins. Life off an offshore worker eh.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 16, 2011, 12:53:39 pm
Just nipped home, got my skis and a quick scran - 3 1/2 more hours and I'll be on the way to Glencoe!

I can't believe he's off and wasn't up there for first lifts...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 16, 2011, 01:15:11 pm
That's what I told him. Well along those lines anyway, the word fucknut was also used.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 17, 2011, 09:53:51 am
Made it up to Glencoe about 6pm - kinda gutting driving up past perfect snowy slopes and blue sky knowing it would be getting dark by the time we got there, but it was definitely worth it.

Managed to get a run down Spring Run, back to the top and all the way down Rannoch Etive Glades past the access chair and on down to the bottom. Getting a bit scraped with rocks poking through in the last 200m - a bit of combat skiing. We bottled out of doing a moonlit lap of the Flypaper!

Probably better snow than we got all week in Les Deux Alpes last week!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 17, 2011, 10:17:37 am
When were you in Les Deux Alpes :)

Nice one for getting out. Why did you drive to Glencoe then, did you not have touring kit?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 17, 2011, 10:41:28 am
I was out last week, stayed at the place my sister is running this year - good criac, sunny every day and got about 20 turns on relatively fresh powder after a 2 minute hike - not much, but enough to dull the powder cravings!

Boarded for the first 3 days, getting my carving back up to speed and just generally balsting about the place. I had banned myslef from hitting the park on this holiday...buuuut...was out riding with one of the chalet staff who fancied a run through, so I the set of 3 x 10 metre-ish kickers (i.e. the small side of the main run) as they looked so well built and easy, just straight airs but felt nice to get some airtmie. Then did a few laps of the poma-kickers - one of which is 8m and the other much bigger (didn't hit the big one) and a lap on the 4 m baby kickers which were nice for spins - sneaked in a wee fs360, not sure if I'd have got many style points but landed it solid  8)

Oh, a bit back On Topic: how come so few snowboarders seem to know how to carve or bother doing it?   :shrug: I'd say 95% of people just smear their way down the slope. Carving up the groomers is one of the few things that keeps me sane when there's no powder (that and the park). It's cool when you look back up and there's a 1" wide ribbon snaking its way back up the run!  :thumbsup:

Edited to say: We didn't stop sooner as the snowline wass a bit too high/too much walking and also we'd still have ended up doing most of the skiing in the dark. It's plenty bright enough with a headtorch and moonlight anyway.  :dance1:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 17, 2011, 11:03:56 am
I was out last week

You missed the smiley, I was amused at

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better snow than we got all week in Les Deux Alpes last week!

I hate seeing people grinding turns, just looks so ugly. Nothing like a well executed carve in groomed fresh snow.

I've got a proper carving / race board which a guy gave me in Colorado, so much fun in the right conditions.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 17, 2011, 12:41:08 pm
I saw the smiley but didn't quite get it! :slap:

You've got what kind of board?

[walks away, shaking his head...]  :shrug:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 17, 2011, 12:47:18 pm
Don't knock it until you've tried it. If you like carving you would love it.

Do you not think this looks like a bit of fun?

(http://www.bomberonline.com//images/SES05/bigs/jim109.jpg)

It generally only sees one morning out in the average week though. Needs to be on groomers the day after a good dump of snow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 17, 2011, 03:52:17 pm
Can you not go faster, carve harder, and not look like a crazy European hard boot loser by just taking out the skis???  :fishing:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 17, 2011, 04:02:56 pm
In a word, no.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 17, 2011, 05:13:24 pm
 :furious:

This:
In a word, no.

Just wasted the last hour reading about carving on skis, boards and carving boards...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on March 17, 2011, 05:34:04 pm
Planning on a quick hit to Chamonix at the begining of April, taking advantage of peoples floor space but having only boarded there early March before I was wondering if it maybe a bit of a risk snow wise. I remember the Valley Blanche was getting a little thin even then...has anyone been out there this late and if so what was the on and off piste like?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 17, 2011, 07:18:43 pm
In '95 and '96 I stayed in the Chamonix valley well after the lifts stopped running - till the end of May. There's always something worth doing.

April is a good time to take advantage of spring snow. Climb up it when it's frozen hard, have a nice, long lunch on top of your chosen mountain/couloir while the sun does its work and then carve your way down the just-softened-enough-creamy-grippy-on-a-firm-base snow that has been created for you.

Every now and then the sun will let you down and you'll have to deal with 3000' of descent's worth of boiler plate, but it'll be character building and your core will feel well worked (and happy to still be alive)

Higher up stuff (over 3000m) can still hold great snow.

Or you could just have a lie in every day and catch the pistes just as they get nice and carvey; progressing on to slush smearing later on. Usually the south facing stuff is more reliable for this - Fleger and Brevant. The Montets can be unpleasant at this time of year unless it has fresh snow - even then it can be laid over some nasty moguls off the piste.

Sometimes it is worth riding Brevant/Fleger until it gets too poridgey and then heading over to The Montets for last orders

I'll gush on about it later

If you're into walking/climbing for your turns I can give you some ideas
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 17, 2011, 07:59:38 pm
I've got a proper carving / race board

I have a skinny asymmetrical Nidecker euro racing hard-boots-for-hard-men thing set at 40/48 with a significant cant on the back binding. Very difficult not to look like a bandy legged prick at speeds of less than 30mph. I do not have a skin tight racing suit.

It's like being on a motorbike on rails. That sensation of acceleration is hard to beat. It's on a par with the floaty/flying feeling of steep deep powder, but with the "lucky bastard" part of the powder experience being replaced by a "this is me that's doing this" component.

My carving skills with soft bindings seem to be fading as I get older. I find this very distressing.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 17, 2011, 08:02:12 pm
early March ... the Valley Blanche was getting a little thin even then...

More likely that it hadn't had enough snow to fill in the slots by that time of year.

Later in the season is usually better
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 18, 2011, 09:05:13 am
By all accounts the Alps have had a shocker for snow. No "significant" falls since just before New Year. I think that temps have stayed fairly low, and anything fresh has been pisted in, but I think off-piste has been fairly pants, and I'm pretty sure there hasn't been enough to fill in the slots in glaciers etc. This info comes from a friend based in Les Arcs, but AFAIK the situation is similar across the French Alps. Things could all change though, snowfall going mental late season is not unheard of, but I would take climbing kit just in case.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 18, 2011, 09:43:16 am
I've got a mate out in Chamonix, I'll try and find some info for you.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Turboman on March 18, 2011, 10:37:18 am
Heading out tomorrow for a week of backcountry. Will let you know.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 01:50:27 pm
Cheers lads, yep the snowfalls been pretty poor everywhere in France it seems, just back from Alp D'huez and the pistes where suffering lower down despite a dump a couple of weeks ago, foocking stones evrywhere on the run home, I think they'd been 6 weeks without any snow previously. Luckily the snow stayed good up high on the pistes (highest lift is 3300m) with fun soft off piste in the afternoons to play on...typically it started to snow again when I was leaving. :wall:

Basically as well as hitting the pistes I want to take me mate down the Valley Blanche because I know he'd cream his pants, as do I every time, such a stunning run, but wondered whether it was a bit of a long shot early April. I guess there's always the runs down from the Grand Montets onto the Argentière glaciers which I presume stay out of the sun a little more?

Thanks in advance Turboman and Fultinus
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 18, 2011, 02:12:28 pm
Facebook only, but can upload to somewhere else if required:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150242070904657&set=a.10150140088624657.329192.512239656&ref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150242070904657&set=a.10150140088624657.329192.512239656&ref=nf)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 04:14:24 pm
I'm on Facebook but this link didn't work unfortunately Fultinus :shrug:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 18, 2011, 05:40:20 pm
Ah well, not very exciting photo anyway. Here's what he said:

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Fultonius, long time no see. Not sure about the start of April, it'll be warm by then and there's not a huge snowbase now so off piste wont be too great even if it does snow in a few weeks. Fingers crossed though.

Have you got transport? Probably worth keeping options open!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 06:27:37 pm
Cheers for that Fultinus, yep, gonna hire a motor, if the off piste is poor any other piste options within a reasonable drive from Cham other than above Argientiere?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 18, 2011, 07:27:44 pm
Verbier and Courmayeur are within reasonable drive and may well have different snow conditions to Cham
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 07:33:17 pm
 :thumbsup: cheers largers
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on March 20, 2011, 10:51:12 am
Over a metre of snow in Whistler this last week, and over 13 m so far this season  :tease:
Sorry!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on March 20, 2011, 06:13:23 pm
 :spank:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 21, 2011, 08:37:34 am
You could easily head up to Les Contamines and the surrounding area too, less rocky than Cham, so not that dependant on deep cover. Could do Flaine too, nice and high, and hopefully still enough snow to fill in the limestone crevasses.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Turboman on March 29, 2011, 10:52:59 am
Got back from Cham on Sunday.  We got luck and had 10cm of snow on the first day.  This meant fresh tracks on Grand Montet! The bottom lift in L'avanche has been closed all season so fresh tracks aplenty if you have the skins to get back out.  We also skied off the back of Grand Montet onto Argentiere glacier which was in good nick as was the GM front face (turn right out of top lift).

Pistes we OK in the morning but grim (icy patches and soft as shit) by midday. Most off the side piste was bump city.

Best on piste conditions we found were at La Tour.

Vallee Blanche is full of holes!  We skinned up to Italian side (Tour Ronde) from the Midi to find good snow but the lower part was thin.  Passed one party extracting themselves from a crevasse.  There is also a very suspect looking snow bridge you have to cross at the salle manger. 

Didn't venture over to Brevent/Fleger but it looked totally burnt out. Don't reckon it will be open for long.

In summary, worth a look if you're heading off piste and have some local knowledge (we had a guide all week).  I reckon still just about worth going for piste skiing but get up high eg GM. One of our gang is heading out again at Easter. Be very careful if you head onto on VB. Apparently it's in the worst state it's been in for years.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 29, 2011, 12:57:56 pm
Similarly we got back on Sat from a week in La Plagne. We were pretty lucky with a reasonable dump over the weekend we got there meant we had 20-30cm of powder. If you hunted it out on the North facing slopes fresh runs could be had for the first 3 days after which the warm weather meant it got heavy and slow.

Lower slopes were pretty shot and slushly, even by late morning, the temps were seriously hot 10-15 degrees even in the shade. Higher up it wasn't too bad. We went across to Les Arcs mid week but the low link meant it was a pretty slushy journey there and back.

We felt pretty lucky overall we were there the week we were, we got lots of decent boarding on-piste, some pretty good off-piste/powder action in, mucho silly antics in four scooby doo costumes I took out (well it was a stag do!) wrapped off by an excellent session on some ski-doos, which was pretty exciting even before we rolled two!

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 30, 2011, 09:10:19 am
Was the bobsleigh run still open? hghilight of our last La Plagne trip, great fun.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 30, 2011, 12:19:08 pm
Yes it was, our chalet girl went on it mid-week. We did a run a while back when we were in St Anton, although fun I thought it was only something I'd do the once, unlike the ski-doos which I'd definitely do again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 06, 2011, 02:58:12 pm
What you guys think of this?

BBC Sport - Winter Sports - British snowboarder James Stentiford slides to freeride bronze (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/winter_sports/9434338.stm#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on April 07, 2011, 01:10:41 pm
Good effort James I say.  The Verbier freeride is highly competitive.  I'd never remember my lines especially when it was pretty tracked by the time he got on the face.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on April 10, 2011, 04:41:54 pm
Thanks for all the Chamonix conditions reports folks...

Well it was hot but and slushy low down (still great fun jumping around) but lucky enough to be making tracks down the front face of the GM in some great powder on the first day...the best riding I've ever had! This stayed good but just got a little heavier each day for most of the week, we just headed up later in the day to allow anything hard to soften, great floaty runs with nobody else around, I think folk just assumed it would be poor.  :shrug:

I did manage to loose my board though as a strong gust flipped it over for a solo ride down the front face...I was fucking mortified. :o :wall: :oops: :wank: :tumble:

BUT with the insurance to cover it i got a great deal on a 'Yes' Typo board and it fucking rocked! Absolutely loved the hybrid camber thingy and I went up from a 153 to a 156 without even noticing. It maybe a little soft for heavier riders but perfect for me from powder to park. :great:

I am a little concerned to have turned down a Freestylers gig so I wouldn't sacrifice any riding days... :ang:

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on July 04, 2011, 03:59:15 pm
Right, I realise this somewhat out of season but…..

The missus and I are currently thinking of heading to Canada for a 10 day ski trip as a delayed honeymoon. We got engaged on a ski holiday and fancied one for a honeymoon but there’s not a great deal of snow around in October so we’re having a week in the camper this year and saving for a decent ski trip next year.

Where and when do people recommend? Neither of us has been skiing in Canada before. Laurs has been to the States but was a bit unimpressed by the lack of mountains, I’ve done a few seasons in Europe, we’re both of a reasonable standard and are keen for powder and easily accessible off-piste.

Wants:

Largish area
Mountainous, not just snowy hills
Cool vibe – not too American, a bit rough and ready is fine but a proper ski town is what we’re after, not just soulless twee apartments.
Good, lift accessible off-piste – the missus is pretty competent but gets freaked out with harnesses/ropes/tricky access and likes to see what I’m going to take her down (she doesn’t trust me). It’s also a honeymoon so non stressful powder fun is the name of the game.
Somewhere with Cat-Skiing – Never been, is it any good? Quite fancy it and a honeymoon seems like a good excuse to spend the extra dollars if it’s worth it. We could do a night at a cat skiing lodge if people reckon it’s wicked.

I’ve obviously heard of Whistler, was told good things about Kicking Horse (for a suspected biased source) but what do the UKB masses recommend?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: robertostallioni on July 04, 2011, 04:06:13 pm
Quote
Where and when do people recommend?
1990, Snowy Peaks.

Be my guest, you got nothing to lose,
won't you let me take you on a Ski cruise?
Ski Patrol fun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YJLrx-zA-U&feature=related#)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 04, 2011, 04:14:44 pm
I think if you are looking at largish, Whistler is the only Canadian resort with any real size. The town has a fair bit of life to it, more than any of the American resorts I have been to, and there is a lot of good challenging off piste stuff, although none of the hard stuff is particularly long. The downside is that it's not very high, so snow is not always of the finest quality powder, and rain in the town is not uncommon. However you can quite easily stay high in warmer conditions and stay lower if conditions are poor.

Although I've not been, I've heard Kicking Horse is tiny by comparison, and not a lot in the town. In powder conditions it would be excellent, but I think you would be hard pushed to get 10 days out of it. You could easily hire a 4x4 and do a road trip of the other resorts scattered in that are though; Kicking Horse, Fernie, Panorama and a few others are close together, as is Revelstoke, which gets a lot of hype as the new kid on the block and the latest big off-piste / cat / heli destination.

If you are Whistler based, I can recommend  http://powdermountaincatskiing.com/ (http://powdermountaincatskiing.com/) we had a day with them, as it was my 40th birthday year when we went and wanted to do something special. Easily one of the best days I have ever had, and a few people who have done both said they much preferred it on the cats to heli; more vert for your money, less weather dependant and a much more laid back stress free vibe;

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2595/154/67/689146086/n689146086_2071524_5608606.jpg)

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2595/154/67/689146086/n689146086_2071528_653745.jpg)

Alternatively you could do a week in a resort and then do a a few days at one of the dedicated catskiing lodges in the middle of nowhere. They all look awesome, pick one nearest the resort you fancy the look of http://www.catskiingdirectory.com/ (http://www.catskiingdirectory.com/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 05, 2011, 09:57:28 am
yeah there is that - hardly a romantic honeymoon. Any road trips I've done in the past (admittedly usually one nighters around a more densely hotelled central Colorado) it usually involved 4 people piled into a double room at the nearest Super 8.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: mr__j5 on July 05, 2011, 10:30:52 am
I could talk for hours about how awesome Whister is. But the main points for me are:

Wide open bowls
Loads of next-to-piste off-piste and takes a few days for it to all get tracked out.
Trees. Oh the trees. I love the gladed runs.
It's big.

I think some people think that it's a busy resort, especially at weekends, but it's quiet compared to a big French resort. If you stay in Whistler village then you will probably have a big queue in the morning to get on the mountain and then that's about it if you stay high enough. If there are big queues though they clear pretty quickly because it's all polite and organised, instead of the French scrum style queue.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on July 05, 2011, 11:52:23 am
We've only been to Banff (twice) and Kickin Hoss so-

Largish area:-  Banff - the combined size of Sunshine, Norquay and Lake Louise is large with the latter being the best but an hour each way in a (very comfortable American) coach.  KH is not large but makes up for it with the terrain and the amount of vertical drop.

Mountainous - Canada has very nice views which make up for sitting in the coach if you're at Banff

Cool vibe – Banff is a good place to stay, lots of choice of eateries and shopping (for the missus).  If you stay in KH, as we did, there is absolutely nothing to do on an evening.  Then again you will either be too knackered from the riding or enjoying your honeymoon  :shag:

Good, lift accessible off-piste – Back bowls of Lake Louise are good, visible and easy run out.  There is a nasty tow to the top though.  Sunshine off piste is poor.  KH off piste is what it is all about.  Some of the drops off the ridges are steep and get tracked quickly and can be mogulled.   The 'easier' off piste is great.  There is a huge amount off the back but it is remote and avalanche prone/dangerous but if you went with a guide.....  There is also easily accessible (hiking) out of resort off piste which is all pretty obvious.  KH has two lifts to the top and you then pick your line.  Admittedly the snow was incredible when we were in KH and just kept coming.

Somewhere with Cat-Skiing – Not in KH but just over the valley.  As above you could stay in Golden and access other resorts.   There are various heli companies from Banff that coach you over to Panorama, or others?.

Fernie is supposed to be great, as a is Great White.  Panaroma is limited as a resort but they run great heli-boarding out of there.

If I were going again I'd either go to Whistler (cos everyone has to go at least once) or spend a week each in KH, Fernie, Great White or Revelstoke.

fwiiw we looked at hiring a camper and touring.  It's not cheap, it's cold and we came to the conclusion we would spend as much and have more stress than staying in hotels.  Last time in Banff the lifts were shut for some of the time because it was too cold for them to run below minus 29degC  :jaw:

I'll post some KH backcountry piccies later.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on July 06, 2011, 05:04:46 pm
Thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated. The missus is questioning the wisdom on booking our honeymoon on the back of recommendations of a load of guys off a climbing forum on the internet but what does she know.

We won’t be renting an SUV. We’ve got a camper van which we use a lot in the UK but fancy a bit more luxury, especially as it’ll be baltic!

Whistler sounds like it’s hitting the spot at the mo. I’ve never been, always wanted too but am a little worried about the potential for shite snow/conditions. This year seems to have been a bumper year (El Nina and all that) so I’d be gutted to rock up for the first time and spend the week in drizzle.

I’m also keen for Fernie and Revelstoke though. Fernie I’ve heard really good things about and Revelstoke has Greg Hill*’s Pro Model Dynafit ski, the “Stoke” named after it so must be good.

Hmm decisions decisions. I’ll be back with some more questions once I’ve chatted it over with the missus.

*Greg Hill climbed up and skied down 2 million vertical feet in 2010 - legend
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 06, 2011, 05:44:36 pm
Well when we we went in 2009 it was regarded as a bad year, and we still had plenty to do. It didn't exactly hose it down like it has been known to do in some years, but in the 2 weeks we were there we had about 5 powder days; each with at least a  foot or more falling. There were still loads of challenging runs to do in the resort even when it was tracked out, and a lot of the harder stuff had easier stuff nearby, so if you fancy doing something a bit harder and your lass doesn't you can always sort out a meeting spot. And only on two of the snowfalls did it rain in the village and the bottom bits of the base runs were icy because of it.

I think if you choose the right time of year it can affect conditions too; we were there early Feb and may have been a tad early as the reports said a load of snow fell not long after we left. Friends went the same year over Xmas and New Year and said conditions were terrible; bitterly cold and icy and very little snow with the snow in the Whistler back bowls too thin to open. Worth doing some research on historical snow records to choose the best time if you are flexible; late Feb / early March may be best?

Where's Andy R when you need him?

edit - i love stats me  http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/weather/stats/index.htm (http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/weather/stats/index.htm)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on July 06, 2011, 10:09:08 pm


Where's Andy R when you need him?



As usual nowhere to be found...

Lived here nearly six years now and still find lots of new stuff on Whistler/Blackcomb.
The last two early seasons have been fantastic - have been up on opening day (early/mid Nov) both times and there has been a LOT of snow - it's not always that reliable though...

It's rare to get weeks of shite weather/no snow, but it does happen - best thing to do then is go back/slackcountry and earn your turns.

I think as mentioned above, a good combo would be WB for your resort skiing, then a trip to the interior (say, Revvy) for cat skiing - you will have fun!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2011, 02:52:18 pm
So galpinos, you decided yet?

If forecasters are to be believed it might be an early start to winter.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/20/britain-s-big-freeze-to-start-with-snow-in-october-115875-23434124/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/20/britain-s-big-freeze-to-start-with-snow-in-october-115875-23434124/)

First snows reported in CO, WY and Canada.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on September 23, 2011, 03:00:04 pm
Still undecided.

We've been given the use of a flat in Tignes for a week in Jan/Feb as a wedding present so we're doing that as a definite. As to whether we get to Canada, we might now be going to New Zealand for a friends wedding. Wrong time of the year for touring though.

As the wedding is in 8 days thoughts of the honeymoon part 2 have been put on hold for decisions on table plans, orders of service, flowers and curtains. My mum is also quite worried about my socks for some reason.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2011, 03:15:06 pm
Mate of mine ( a bit of  scruff to say the least) ended up wearing a pair with a big hole at the heel of his sock, reckoned it was the only place he could show his own character in the "clown suit" (his words) he was made to wear. Maybe your mum is right to be concerned.

Good luck!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on September 23, 2011, 03:18:57 pm
Mate of mine ( a bit of  scruff to say the least) ended up wearing a pair with a big hole at the heel of his sock, reckoned it was the only place he could show his own character in the "clown suit" (his words) he was made to wear. Maybe your mum is right to be concerned.

Good luck!
That's got to be the most impressively  :off: post in a long time, well done, not sure if you deserve a wad or punter? So I'll neither  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2011, 03:21:58 pm
it was a logical follow on from the sock comment.

To get back on topic, you planning some snowboarding this winter then?

hopefully getting to Les Gets in Feb time for 10 days or so.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on September 23, 2011, 03:23:00 pm
Mate of mine ( a bit of  scruff to say the least) ended up wearing a pair with a big hole at the heel of his sock, reckoned it was the only place he could show his own character in the "clown suit" (his words) he was made to wear. Maybe your mum is right to be concerned.

Good luck!

She's bought me and the best men/ushers all socks so we all match. Apparently these things are important.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on September 23, 2011, 03:36:29 pm
In a bit of a cross-over with the Dad's topic, what are peoples opinions on the best age to take the mini's out on the snow? You see tinys on skis from before they can walk but I'd be keen for Mini-Obi MkI (who'll be 4 in Oct, but is tall for his age) to start on a board if poss. I've seen a few mini-boards but they aren't that common.

Thoughts? Experiences?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on September 23, 2011, 03:38:21 pm
No idea about snowboarding, but I learnt to ski when I was 4/5 and my brother started at the same time when he was 3/4.

Pluses are that you've no fear and less distance to fall.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2011, 03:54:05 pm
In a bit of a cross-over with the Dad's topic, what are peoples opinions on the best age to take the mini's out on the snow? You see tinys on skis from before they can walk but I'd be keen for Mini-Obi MkI (who'll be 4 in Oct, but is tall for his age) to start on a board if poss. I've seen a few mini-boards but they aren't that common.

Thoughts? Experiences?

My thoughts are getting them straight onto a board is a bad idea. Came across a few parents who were trying it when I was working in Colorado, and kids seemed to be having a bad time, as it's a lot more counterintuitive having to stand sideways with both legs together and standing sideways than facing straight down the hill on two skis with a control harness and an "edgy wedgy" on their skis so they snow plough. Kids on boards having a bad time catching front edge, face plants, tears, etc. Also have the common probs adults have with getting on / off lifts and getting stuck on flats. Also as you say, not sure how small boards and boots go down to, but would have thought there would be some about. Have you looked on google for any articles, pointers, etc?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on September 24, 2011, 10:52:48 am
All good points Chris. I can't imagine it is easily to hold a kid on skis in a harness whilst on a board yourself.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on September 24, 2011, 12:09:08 pm
Over here (Bavaria/Austria) kids normally start on skis at three or four, but I've never seen them on snowboards until quite a bit later. As Chris said, the initial learning curve is steeper and less intuitive.

Or so I'm told. I have never ski'd. I intend to start learning this winter, though, because touring with a snowboard is such a  complete PITA. I did an off piste course with a guide in Zillertal a couple of years ago; he said he mostly snowboarded for years but has gone almost completely back to skis, because modern fat rocker skis are almost as good as a snowboard in powder and so much more practical for everything else.

Back to the snowboarding dads thing: it's difficult to be a snowboarding dad with a small child on skis, because you're basically hardly able to assist kids/beginners - except with getting on & off chairlifts a bit. I had the good fortune that my wife and son first learned to ski on a holiday with friends who are both very capable skiers, but the first few outings after that, just us as a family without experienced skiers around, were a bit worrying.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on September 24, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
Over here (Bavaria/Austria) kids normally start on skis at three or four, but I've never seen them on snowboards until quite a bit later. As Chris said, the initial learning curve is steeper and less intuitive.

Or so I'm told. I have never ski'd. I intend to start learning this winter, though, because touring with a snowboard is such a  complete PITA. I did an off piste course with a guide in Zillertal a couple of years ago; he said he mostly snowboarded for years but has gone almost completely back to skis, because modern fat rocker skis are almost as good as a snowboard in powder and so much more practical for everything else.

Back to the snowboarding dads thing: it's difficult to be a snowboarding dad with a small child on skis, because you're basically hardly able to assist kids/beginners - except with getting on & off chairlifts a bit. I had the good fortune that my wife and son first learned to ski on a holiday with friends who are both very capable skiers, but the first few outings after that, just us as a family without experienced skiers around, were a bit worrying.

See the majority of kids over here on skis at about 4-6, though you do see a few tiny kids doing it - our eldest started at 5 last winter (and she's very dinky for her age) and was absolutely grand - I also took the just-turned-three year old out and it was a bit too early - will likely wait another year or so.

You do see kids on boards, but much less common - they seem to all switch to boards however at about age seven to eight, then before you know it, they are completely burning you off....

I re-taught myself to ski so that I could go alongside my daughter - being on a board is just too much of a hassle when you have to help them onto lifts etc...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Stewart on December 07, 2011, 11:30:21 am
Hey ho boarders, the white stuff is here.

Anyone done any munro/boarding ie walking up a munro and getting some nice off-piste action back down. I've done a bit of off-piste and love winter walking so would seem to make sense to combine the two .

Admittedly the off-piste I've done hasn't been the most serious, alternative routes of Carn Aosda and Glen Coe and through the trees in the alps, minimal avalanche risk stuff.

Guess the main thing is too pick the right hill,  preferably finding the right balance of low avalanche risk yet steep enough that i'm not going to have to dig myself out. There are a few things that come to mind (Ime for example) which would be fairly safe but the bottom half isn't ideal.
Suppose a guide is the obvious but pricey solution. Any thoughts?

Chars
Stewart
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on December 07, 2011, 11:53:48 am
A couple that spring to mind.

Spent about 4 hours in knee high snow breaking trail up Fionn Bheinn (http://www.munromagic.com/MountainInfo.cfm/246) only to be caught on the top by a couple of ski-tourers who said it took them 2 hours. Anyway they seemed to make it back down alright.

Schiehallion (http://www.munromagic.com/MountainInfo.cfm/59) I remember being quite straight forward too if perhaps a little on the short side. Good one to try on the way home perhaps.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2011, 12:04:56 pm
I tend to ski tour in  Scotland, although I am predominantly a boarder, as it's a lot less faff. A set of good snow shoes and / or some suitable strap on crampons for your boots are a good idea, as step kicking in snowboard boots is a lot harder then ski boots. and having an axe with you provides a bit of security if things look a bit iffy. You could look into getting / making a splitty, but they aren't cheap.

And at least

Many grade 1 gullies are boardable and most munros have an easy way down. Providing it isn't too corniced, which is even more of a problem for downhill travel than uphill.

There's loads of good info here

http://www.haggistrap.co.uk/offpiste.shtml (http://www.haggistrap.co.uk/offpiste.shtml)

http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/ (http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/)

and

http://www.winterhighland.info/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Stewart on December 07, 2011, 12:44:59 pm
Cheers guys, Fionn Bheinn isn't a munro i've been up yet, possibly a bit far away. Schiehallion could be OK, certainly pretty safe i would think.

will need to check that out & thanks for the links Chris - haggistrap looks well handy.

I've crampons for my winter boots but they wouldn't fit my snowboard boots. Didn't really know you could get crampons that would, wouldn't they be a bit eh crap? I was thinking of taking both boots and changing at the top which I suppose is not ideal especially when my board is not the lightest to start with.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on December 07, 2011, 01:01:26 pm
Yeah I was erring on the safe side of safe there. Should've added at the end of my post that SA Chris would be along any moment with good beta and links.

Post up what you get done Stewart.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on December 07, 2011, 01:10:28 pm
Ben Chonzie would be fun I think. Pretty easy walk and a good angle on the way back down. Did 3/4 of Ben Lawers, but bailed due to lack of psyche for deep stuff from my mate on a pair of horrific blades with mountaineering boots.....  :o :o
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 07, 2011, 01:30:15 pm
I've done a fair bit of boarding using Koflachs and soft bindings. Not ideal, but fine. Certainly makes climbing steeper stuff easy.

Easyish off piste that springs to mind -

the window descent from creag meagaidh.

Lurchers' gully in the 'gorms (not at all steep or gully-like) - in fact, climb/walk up Fiacaill ridge (or get a ride up caingorm), descend Coire Raibert (easy slope, getting gradually steeper, holds snow despite facing south) to the loch shore, walk westish along the shore, mosey up to Cairn Lochan and then come down Lurchers' Gully. Not exactly remote, but a nice easy day out.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2011, 02:13:32 pm
Didn't really know you could get crampons that would, wouldn't they be a bit eh crap? I was thinking of taking both boots and changing at the top which I suppose is not ideal especially when my board is not the lightest to start with.

I've got a pair of old flexible walking boot crampons that are an OK fit. Not ideal, but better than trying to step kick in board boots. Doing long walks in snowboard boots isn't actually that comfortable, so carrying a pair of boots is not a bad idea. If you are doing a circular  / up and down route you can switch over and leave a pair behind, but you need to know your route back.

Scheihallion is actually quite rocky, so generally avoided by ski tourers in all but deep cover, as skins aren't cheap. If you are walking up though it should be OK.

The SMC Ski Mountaineering in Scotland book might be Ok browsing through for pointers.

There is also a nice tour you can do up to Glas Moel at Glenshee, then head NE along the ridge and tage a few more munros before dropping into a corrie just SE of Loch Callater. you can follow the burn all the way back to the road, usually enough snow. LF's suggestion is a good one too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 07, 2011, 02:27:53 pm
Lurchers' gully is also a good venue for a spot of after dark boarding. It doesn't take long to walk from the car park to the top and the whole run is pretty much free of obstacles (watch for holes over the stream if not much snow). Worth thinking about if the lifts have closed, but you still have plenty left in the tank.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2011, 04:34:03 pm
Did 3/4 of Ben Lawers, but bailed due to lack of psyche for deep stuff from my mate on a pair of horrific blades with mountaineering boots.....  :o :o

The corrie N of Ben Lawers between it and the mountain just to the N of it holds snow well and the "range" has a variety of descents. There is also a pretty impressive looking (erratic?) boulder in the valley you walk up from the car park to the corrie, with some great looking lines on it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Stewart on December 19, 2011, 11:54:13 am
Settled for the tame option and went to Glencoe yesterday. Still, 800m descent from the top to the car park on pretty decent powder all the way in Alpine sunshine is not to be sneezed at in Scotland!

Looking a bit mild this week so lengthy climbs/descents may have to be put on hold till the new year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 21, 2011, 06:44:54 pm
Conditions good at Glenshee yesterday, loads of fresh snow on Cairnwell side, but a bit scoured on Sunnyside, even though pistes were pretty good. think it's all gone to ratshit today and going to be mild, wet and windy for the next few days.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gingerninja on December 25, 2011, 04:05:53 pm
verbier is pretty good today. what a christmas present.

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/408535_10150538814395149_612560148_10944296_929282097_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/378378_10150538814285149_612560148_10944294_1515285632_n.jpg)
Title: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tomtom on January 08, 2012, 09:42:36 am
Dull question but: does anyone wear wrist guards for snowboarding? I do, but I have broken/ fractured my left arm twice (both stupid avoidable climbing injuries ...) and am exceedingly unkeen on a repeat. But my impression is that they are probably only relevant if you are riding on-piste in a resort that's turned icey. Son #1 is going on school trip to Austria in a month and I am wondering whether to pressure him to take and wear wrist guards.

I'm an infrequent and pretty lame boarder, but I ALWAYS wear wrist guards after busting a wrist early on in my boarding career.. I spend so much time face planting/hitting the deck that I wouldn't dream of not using them... Maybe the shizzle has changed in the last few years but surprised a school trip isn't making the yoofs wear the safety gear...

My best pair had stiff placcy strips on the palm and back of hand sides with Velcro strapping to hold em on, and they fitted under a set if mitts. You can get gloves/mitts with them built in iirc...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 08, 2012, 10:19:06 am
I never have but then I've never had a problem with my wrists whilst boarding (fractured both as a youth before I started boarding). My friend who is made of glass does use them after screwing up his attempt at a rail slide at Xscape, of all places. Obviously a lid is very important.

Off to Sauze d'Oulx next week and can't wait.  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 08, 2012, 10:28:42 am
SCIENCE (http://www.ski-injury.com/prevention/wrist_guards)

and if he's doing stuff in the air then think about back protection (as well as the obligatory helmet, of course)
Title: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tomtom on January 08, 2012, 10:40:03 am
SCIENCE (http://www.ski-injury.com/prevention/wrist_guards)

and if he's doing stuff in the air then think about back protection (as well as the obligatory helmet, of course)

Good article Lagers, it's a no brainer then.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on January 08, 2012, 03:52:54 pm
Brit Billy Morgan landing probably the first triple rodeo.
triple rodeo - Billy Morgan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAfSClKOUBI#ws)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on January 08, 2012, 05:29:39 pm
But, judging from looking around Whistler last week no-one is wearing guards and the shops aren't selling them either.

You wouldn't see them sold/worn separately because most snowboarding gloves generally have them built in. At any rate all three pairs that I have ever bought have. I wouldn't be keen on boarding without them, although I don't tumble that often nowadays.

("If you aren't falling you aren't learning": Big Ron)

I think helmets are compulsory for kids in some European countries now. (Austria? Italy?) I have had a couple of big slides where I was very glad to be wearing mine.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on January 08, 2012, 08:00:23 pm
But, judging from looking around Whistler last week no-one is wearing guards and the shops aren't selling them either.

You wouldn't see them sold/worn separately because most snowboarding gloves generally have them built in.
Interesting. That was my working assumption but I didn't see any like that in the stores in Whistler ... but it's possible I missed them somehow. Then again I don't think it gets lethally icey there as often as in the Alps so maybe less of an issue?
I think it's a euro thing - have never seen them for sale over here either integrated in gloves or as separate items.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 09, 2012, 08:47:22 am
Our two year old has been asking when she can come boardsnording. I shall be using this word from now on.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 09, 2012, 09:05:19 am
Then again I don't think it gets lethally icey there as often as in the Alps so maybe less of an issue?

I encountered some pretty lethal ice in Whistler! But iciness is not really a factor, as if you lose an edge on ice you tend to fall uphill as your board washes out from under you. The worst wrist injuries are from catching an outside edge and falling downhill.  It's not just piste ridign where you need them, Off piste there are often submerged obstacles that can flip you, and I've used them to "block" against trees a few times. I've got as pair of the Da Kine ones. which pretty much whenever I snowboard, don't even notice I've got them on, and they give a bit of extra warmth to my old hands. In cold weather I wear a liner under them, but in warm weather they can get a bit sweaty and damp, so need to be dried out properly overnight.

http://pfpowder.com/view_product.php?prod_id=38 (http://pfpowder.com/view_product.php?prod_id=38)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chummer on January 09, 2012, 12:22:54 pm
After not being able to stand everyones snowy powdery pictures here and on Facebook and suffering severe FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) I am booking fights to Chamonix for the first week of Feb...then some focker told me gleefully this morning that 'a warm front' is due and the conditions are meant to deteriorate significantly.

I've searched for info on the net, including weather charts, but can't really find ount to confirm or conflict with this, does anyone have any knowledge as I am obviously incapable of interpreting a synopsis chart properly and all the long range forecasts I read were only for the next 10 days.

Help!

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on January 09, 2012, 12:30:07 pm
 :-\

NSFW  :
DFBWGS[nowboarding].....naked (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnhhrz_best-snowboard-video-ever-dedicated-to-my-special-friend_sport)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gingerninja on January 11, 2012, 09:12:09 pm
its been pretty sunny in verbier since the weekend and is supposed to be like this for a week. not sure after that but there is plenty of snow but the off piste will be shoddy without more snow. sorry to rub it in but ive had some awesome fresh lines the last 3 days  :great:. back home tom tho so back to reality  :(. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 19, 2012, 10:37:27 am
Last Light (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2IA1e0afoE#ws)

I need a split board.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on January 19, 2012, 11:48:06 am
That was nice wasn't it.

I need a split board.

Or learn to ski  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 19, 2012, 12:09:32 pm
Nah, worst of both worlds - skis may be easier on the flat and uphill, but they're a pain in the arse on steep descents, variable snow, if you fall etc. I'll take a bit more hassle on the way up anyday.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 19, 2012, 01:15:01 pm
Lovely vid JB. Once you’ve got your split board and start organising a trip, count me in!

For those ski geeks out there , the skier, Stephen Drake, is the co-founder of DPS skis, www.dpsskis.com (http://www.dpsskis.com), and he appears to be skiing on the new DPS Spoon.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 20, 2012, 11:21:54 am
Does look amazing.

Bit more snow up here, West is looking OK, East is a bit leaner, but east side of the main Cairngorm plateau has good cover. And Black Spout on Lochnagar is in skiable nick, although a rock or 2 showing through if anyone fancies taking their skis for a long walk.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 20, 2012, 11:39:03 am
And Black Spout on Lochnagar is in skiable nick, although a rock or 2 showing through if anyone fancies taking their skis for a long walk.

Off to Tignes for a week first week in Feb but have a lads' gullies and touring weekend booked for 25/26th Feb based out of Aviemore. I quite fancy Black Spout, hopefully there'll be some some snow and better conditions by then.

What I really want to do is ski to Hell's Lum Crag, climb Hell's Lum with skis, ski down Castlegate's Gully then skin back up to the ski area and ski back to the car. A sort of alpine enchainement style day. We shall have to see how the conditions develop......
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 20, 2012, 12:18:47 pm
Lochnagar is quite a drive from Aviemore, so if conditions are good it may not be worth the detour. Could stop on the way there / way back though, depending how long you plan on being up here for.

Give us a shout closer to the time, might be up for joining you on that mission. Always fancied Hell's Lum and Castlegates.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 20, 2012, 12:45:40 pm
Will do. Team Beta-Ride descent!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 20, 2012, 01:48:59 pm
Word homie. None of this full fat malarkey.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2012, 09:55:42 am
Quite cool

http://www.nowness.com/day/2012/2/16/1893/jacob-sutton-s-l-e-d-surfer (http://www.nowness.com/day/2012/2/16/1893/jacob-sutton-s-l-e-d-surfer)

Galpinos, you still up here next weekend?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 17, 2012, 11:53:29 am
Quite cool

http://www.nowness.com/day/2012/2/16/1893/jacob-sutton-s-l-e-d-surfer (http://www.nowness.com/day/2012/2/16/1893/jacob-sutton-s-l-e-d-surfer)

Galpinos, you still up here next weekend?

Very cool, I've have to get me one of those suits.

Yep, still coming up. The two lads I'm going with are up Friady as well, I'm just there for the weekend. There's some music/comedy festival on in Aviemore so depending on the conditions, I may be drinking more than skiing!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2012, 12:08:38 pm
Cool, keep in touch. I may be able to do a day hit, depending on conditions / passes. Unless things change, might be bouldering!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 28, 2012, 01:09:15 pm
For those of you keep on sideslipping on a tray:

THIS IS MY WINTER (full movie english) (http://vimeo.com/31572650)

He's quite handy!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2012, 01:59:13 pm
How was your Aviemore weekend?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 28, 2012, 02:13:40 pm
Pretty good in the end, though no skiing in the cairngorms!

Saturday day we did Number 4 on the Ben, back to Avimore for the comedy gig then over to Creag Meagaidh on Sunday to do Easy Gully. Weather was pretty mixed, it rained all day Saturday form leaving the car to getting back, but the snow was pretty good to ski.

Easy Gully is a fantastic ski. Quite keen to go back and do it again sometime and have a look at Raeburns as well.

Off up the Ben in the drizzle:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6938227081_681e4eedb9.jpg)

Topping out Number 4:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6938227411_ee6bd11c26.jpg)

Setting off up Easy Gully:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6792112778_f318199387.jpg)

More Easy Gully:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6938228249_fd1714e190.jpg)

Walking back to the trainer stash:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/6792113546_f3a58d7903.jpg)

Me doing a couple of turns:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35202205@N02/6792116890/#secret4b66d88209in/photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35202205@N02/6792116890/#secret4b66d88209in/photostream)

Tried to embed the video but no joy!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2012, 02:44:47 pm
Nice one, you got more done than I expected. A mate of mine did a solo trip up Easy Gully about a month ago under about a foot of fresh, he said he was psyched to get back to do Raeburn's too. Looks like you had the "full scottish" conditions. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 28, 2012, 02:53:45 pm
We got far more done than I thought too. One of the lads wasn't that experienced (he could ski but not done much general mountain stuff) and having seen the amount of snow in the Cairngorms I was pretty unsure how the weekend would pan out, hence I didn’t get in touch. Didn’t want you to waste a day pass for what could have been a rubbish weekend.

The conditions were definitely Scottish, we were sodden by the end of Saturday and had to put up with some twat at the CIC telling us how we “climbing to our deaths” heading up Number 4 before slagging of Guy’s rental skis and saying we were stupid walking up from the North Face car park and not coming up the tourist track. Proper twat. We did get a lift down with a couple of guys from Plas Y Brenin from the top car park though, which was much appreciated!

I shall have to stop sullying this thread with two stick related tales!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 29, 2012, 09:34:33 am
All good I think. two sides of the same coin.

I was not totally over manflu this time last week, so I think a day or two like that would have killed me.

Amazing some of the twats you get on the hills.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on May 11, 2012, 12:44:30 pm
A bit late in the season but I found these funny:

Avalanche Avoiding Kung Fu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWNYiuZS28#ws)

Avalanche avoiding Kung Fu 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKgd7Th68k#ws)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 04, 2012, 01:44:41 pm
http://saisncairngorms.blogspot.com/ (http://saisncairngorms.blogspot.com/)

And so it begins! I really hope it lasts! 2 deg and rain here at coast, snow falling hard from foothills upwards.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 04, 2012, 04:19:52 pm
Seriously thinking about chopping my board in half. Anyone done it?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 04, 2012, 04:33:03 pm
Seriously thinking about chopping my board in half. Anyone done it?

Been looking at the kits to convert myself. Might try it on my shit board i use in the uk!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on December 04, 2012, 04:46:22 pm
Seriously thinking about chopping my board in half. Anyone done it?

I had a friend who did it "back in the day" when I was doing seasons ('02-'05) and his verdict was:
- He was chuffed
- His board was softer but perfectly ridable, had to work harder is tough snow but it was a worthwhile pay off
- He wouldn't do it to his only board
- He was pretty good so your experience may vary

No idea if things have changed but I can only assume the kits have got better. I imagine starting with a stiffer board helps.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 04, 2012, 04:48:19 pm
Sounds good. Last year I had five days in Cham, three days touring, 'twas fantastic. I've got an old Burton Fluid I bought with a student loan, at 159 its on the long side for me, bit trashed but still great off piste, and doesn't owe me anything. My Dad has a bench saw...

Costs look like Voile split kit £100, Spark bindings £300, Skins £120, Crampons £80, ie £5-600 all in.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 04, 2012, 09:21:12 pm
don't forget heel risers (unless they are part of the binding?)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2012, 08:39:08 am
Or just get a pair of those little approach skis you can strap on your pack when skiing down. I can remember seeing a second hand pair for sale somewhere recently, will try recall where.

I've thought about it before, but for touring I'm an reasonable enough skier to hack my way down most things, and if I'm doing anything "side country" I usually hike it (with an old pair of flexi crampons if needed) or use snowshoes.

edit: Just found the approach blades on Aberdeen Ski Touring page on FB. Bindings for ski boot / mountaineering boot so probably not what you are after.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2012, 08:40:10 am
Seriously thinking about chopping my board in half. Anyone done it?

Just remember which way to chop :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on December 05, 2012, 09:48:24 am
My Dad has a bench saw...
I'd avoid a large toothed bench saw designed for chopping wood, it will take quite a chunk out of the board and the finish will be well rough. Ideally you need a large band saw or industrial frikkin laser! You might find one of your work neighbours might have something suitable and would do it for a few beers.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 05, 2012, 09:58:02 am
Given by the finish he gets on his clocks/ toy trains etc I reckon it'll be perfect.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2012, 10:05:43 am
Obi has a point. Cutting wood to a nice finish, and cutting sintered plastic and composites are two different stories.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: ianto9 on December 05, 2012, 10:10:11 am
Seriously thinking about chopping my board in half. Anyone done it?
Check this out from my mate jony http://chamonixinsider.com/tag/jonny-barr/ (http://chamonixinsider.com/tag/jonny-barr/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 05, 2012, 10:16:50 am
Don't worry guys, I think I can choose an appropriate blade.

How to build your own splitboard ? - TimeLine bonus 2 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/23106466)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on December 05, 2012, 10:17:39 am
How to make a splitboard with the Voile DIY Split Kit - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPSAGraCXgc#)
How to make a splitboard with the Voile DIY Split Kit - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8X9JMw0Ldk#)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 05, 2012, 10:26:47 am
Check this out from my mate jony http://chamonixinsider.com/tag/jonny-barr/ (http://chamonixinsider.com/tag/jonny-barr/)

Nice, ta, loads of good info there. Waterjet cutting does sound pretty good, looks like there are a few places in Sheffield too.

Not sure I'll go for the Voile kit but its all good info.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2012, 01:10:00 pm
Not sure if I've posted this up before, but a friend of mine has set up a site trying to document some of the gully skiiing in Scotland. Feel free to add anything if you want to contribute

http://www.steepscotland.info/ (http://www.steepscotland.info/)

useful for stuff closer to this side of the country, and can be used in conjunction with the Haggis trap info

http://www.haggistrap.co.uk/offpiste.shtml (http://www.haggistrap.co.uk/offpiste.shtml)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 05, 2012, 01:40:21 pm
Karakorum do split system too, looks more expensive mind.

With a bench saw you'd have to cut a wide enough slot into the nose and toe edge to get the band into whereas with a circular saw you can start into the rise?  And with a circular you can follow the straight edge easier?  Just a thought like.  I've got a circular saw you are welcome to borrow JB.  You can then let me know whether it all works or not  8)

Good info Chris, really must get up to Scotland this year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: mole on December 29, 2012, 08:03:55 pm
Arrrrrghhhh. My transfer from Milan to Pragelato has fallen through. We land tomorrow night! Anyone know of any decent transfer companies, cheaper the better. 4 people, 4 bags, one board bag. Thanks!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Teaboy on January 10, 2013, 11:10:02 pm
You get fairly jaded about ski. And snow board films but this left my jaw on the floor!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/20971889 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/20971889)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 11, 2013, 07:30:23 am
A lot of the good clips are from the film Art of Flight. Definitely worth seeing if you like what's shown there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 15, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
Shame there's nowhere around you to do any then. Oh wait...  :furious:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 15, 2013, 11:47:38 pm
really hard work

if you get really fit (and competent at getting around) it won't seem like such hard work

wasting loads of energy getting to places only to find that conditions aren't very good (and so using even more energy to do the out of condition descents) is what made me fit enough to be able to race about like Taz when conditions were good

a day out in poor conditions will at least be an opportunity to commune quietly with nature with no one else around - and will make you fitter and will get you some more experience of snow and avalanche conditions - and is way better than another day on busy pisted hard pack

the day that you head out, feeling confident in your snow/avalanche knowledge and score good conditions with no one else around will leave you motivated beyond belief

go on some avalanche courses, dig lots of pits and ask if you can go out with avalanche patrols to dig more pits

there was some structure to this, but a waking child has distracted me
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 16, 2013, 09:35:42 am
if possible, try to find slopes that are accessable via ridges that get scraped/packed by the wind - means it's easier underfoot, sometimes less steep than the direct route and you get better views whilst slogging

the obvious problem with this is that a slope below a wind scraped ridge may well be prone to slab avalanche - and because you didn't come up the slope you won't have had a chance to investigate the snow pack. Ideally you will have recent experience of similar slopes and so know what to expect before setting out...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 16, 2013, 09:43:23 am
and, to state the bleedin obvious - do loads and loads of avalanche search and recovery practice - burying transeivers (more than one at a time as well) and learning search paterns and probing/digging techniques. this is a great way to pass time (and develop fitness) on days when the weather won't let you do anything else

will you be moving over glaciers? there's a whole bunch of extra skills needed there - not too complicated for climbers to learn, but you'll fare better if these things come automatically
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 16, 2013, 10:05:12 am
The final constraint is getting any uphill gear (splitboard ideally, more likely snowshoes for now) bought without the the wife complaining about extravagance ...
I refer you to the 'home made' splitty discussion earlier in this thread....still a few $ but not as bad.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 16, 2013, 10:35:33 am
Whistler do loads of guiding and back country courses etc. There's probably even people in Squampton who do them. I went on the free "avalanche awareness" course that is on offer at Whistler on a day when we had some crap weather, and even though I know a fair bit I learned quite a lot. They also do intensive multi day avalanche courses as well (not free though!).  There are also some transceivers buried on the hill for you to do transceiver practise with. I think just to the right of the terrain park on whistler mountain (it's marked on the trail map).

If you are starting off with modest ambitions you can get away with snow shoes ans some telescopic poles and a bit of kicking your way up steeper stuff before you invest in a split board.

Even if you are working full time, you seem to get a lot more good days there than we do in Scotland, so weekends only might not be such a hardship. I'm sure Andy (W? the Vancouver one) will be able to give you some pointers, or there are like minded folk aroud who might take you out for a day and show you some pointers.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 16, 2013, 10:54:43 am
snowshoes for now) bought without the the wife complaining about extravagance ...

you live down the hill from some snow

snow shoes are not an extravagance - they are essential for your physical and mental wellbeing

I'll have a word with her if that will help - something along the lines of "look at the state I'm in. This is because I don't have any snowshoes or access to snow. You don't want Mr Seiger to end up like me, do you?"
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 16, 2013, 11:00:10 am
I'll have a word with her if that will help - something along the lines of "look at the state I'm in. This is because I don't have any snowshoes or access to snow. You don't want Mr Seiger to end up like me, do you?"
Can you have a word with Mrs Obi please? Persuade her she wants to look after the kids while I get a week or two boarding in with the boys, and while we're at it, that we do want to move to Vancouver/Squamish  for a year or two?! Cheers. Buy you a pint.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2013, 10:04:07 am
would it be better to put the $800 towards a split board instead?

you would then have less weight on your back on the way up (no board on back) and the way down (no skis on back) - this makes the whole day more fun

I'll repost a pic of my home made approach skis later
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 18, 2013, 10:12:35 am
Aren't approach skis generally used for getting to the start of mountain routes? Guess they can be used as an alternative if you don't have s plit board, but I agree with the fish of lager that a splitty is a better option for backcountry riding.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2013, 10:19:22 am
for doing bigger jumps/drops or for steeper, harder, scarier descents requiring serious "edging skills or hospital bills" it is an advantage to have a one piece board, so the approach skis would be very helpful - just how hardcore are you?
Title: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tomtom on January 18, 2013, 10:43:14 am
Where's the home made skis pic Lagers?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2013, 11:27:19 am
Where's the home made skis pic Lagers?

at home

I'm at work

you'll just have to wait

I did post it earlier in this thread, but I assume that it's dissapeared
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2013, 12:18:37 pm
I tried the search - searched for my posts in this thread - it didn't work

that's the one - they don't fold - I just let them stick up out of the rucksack - made out of recycled skis, skins and oldschool snowboard bindings

would probably work just as well even if you didn't dress as a scruffy British mountaineering bum

skinning is a lot easier than snowshoeing
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 18, 2013, 12:31:09 pm
Never mind the skis, can we have a photo of the time machine you used to take that snowboard back to 1983?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2013, 01:23:56 pm
time machine you used to take that snowboard back to 1983?

heliskiing is banned in France, but using a time machine didn't seem to get us into any trouble
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on January 18, 2013, 05:57:35 pm
Even if you are working full time, you seem to get a lot  I'm sure Andy (W? the Vancouver one) will be able to give you some pointers, or there are like minded folk aroud who might take you out for a day and show you some pointers.
Yup Mr R (not W) has indeed offered and in general is a guru on BC living. Though he purports to work on weekdays which is when I am free'est. That said in the last few days he has been taking snowmobile lessons in company time ...
Hey, Dr R to you, and those were essential snowmobile safety training classes...

You can borrow my split if you want to try it - though I've been up on Paul Ridge behind your house with people on snowshoes, and haven't had to wait too much.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on January 22, 2013, 03:28:02 pm
Mam Tor today:

mam tor snow on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/57934442)

There were patches of ok snow (little bit of crust) and lots of clumps of grass sticking through in places! Really needs a bit more for it to get good.

As an aside Back Tor looked very wintery...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 22, 2013, 03:58:45 pm
Really needs a bit more for it to get good.
Shame it's meant to warm up and rain at the weekend now... :'(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 25, 2013, 07:09:59 am
with snow forecast for tonight, I intend to go to Le Piste des Alpacas around sun-up for an hour or so of gentle turns and, of course, a pastry and a cup of coffee on the slopes

anyone else in?

I'll be the one speaking in the manner of a "Chute FM" (always sounded like "shit FM") conditions reporter

"there are big pooders ev-ery-where and all of the sloops are open" etc
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 25, 2013, 10:04:34 am
Glenshee was in good shape yesterday, scored fresh tracks everywhere (calling it powder would be a lie but as good as you get in scotland) not too crowded. Then clag came in and I got fucked off with riding blind and went home. Hopefully Coire Fionn and Glas Moel opening soon, snowing again in Aberdeen as I look out the window.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 25, 2013, 10:06:03 am
Lucky sod.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 25, 2013, 11:34:08 am
looks like Weardale, Allenheads and Yad Moss are all running this weekend.

http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ (http://www.winterhighland.info/general/) - see English fields.

Otherwise take your board for a walk in the hills, bound to be something about?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 25, 2013, 11:34:43 am
Quote
with snow forecast for tonight, I intend to go to Le Piste des Alpacas around sun-up for an hour or so of gentle turns and, of course, a pastry and a cup of coffee on the slopes

anyone else in?

As in Saturday AM? I'm keen, though it may be wishful thinking. Sun-up is usually my shift holding the yoot, and its not looking like powder out there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 25, 2013, 11:35:43 am
I don't have any gear, it was stolen from the ski slope I worked in whilst I was in font. Apparently it's policy to hand out staff gear when they're running short but not check it's all handed back in again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 25, 2013, 11:40:25 am
Bummer.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 25, 2013, 11:59:32 am
Quote
with snow forecast for tonight, I intend to go to Le Piste des Alpacas around sun-up for an hour or so of gentle turns and, of course, a pastry and a cup of coffee on the slopes

anyone else in?

As in Saturday AM? I'm keen, though it may be wishful thinking. Sun-up is usually my shift holding the yoot, and its not looking like powder out there.

yes, Saturday morning - forecast for snow and zeroish temps at that altitude, I assume that the base is still good (won't have had any sun).

chances that the existing old snow will have sublimated and formed a layer of plaquettes on wich the new layer can slide - are virtually nil, but I like to pretend I'm somewhere more interesting than I am, so am thinking about such stuff. I'll post up a more detailed and utterly pointless avalanche report tomorrow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 25, 2013, 01:50:07 pm
Might be keen. Could be last chance before it craps out.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 25, 2013, 06:10:35 pm
it's snowing in S2

Looks like it might be getting a bit warmer during the night, but I don't mind riding heavy snow

barring any child/partner health scares, I'll be up there tomorrow morning around 8ish

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: neilpearsons on January 25, 2013, 06:19:39 pm
It was snowing eariler this evening in Buxton but it's now stopped >:(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 25, 2013, 06:24:12 pm
It was snowing eariler this evening in Buxton but it's now stopped >:(

it'll be OK, radio 4 was on about a triple dip recession - this sort of thing is expected and it will get better
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 25, 2013, 06:29:27 pm
Doubt I can get up there for 8 - aiming for ten-ish. Met are forecasting heavy snow between 9 and 12 tonight...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on January 25, 2013, 06:51:15 pm
There is gonna be pow pow everywhere, you got your split board yet JB? I'll bring the shovel and probe...

Give us a ring if/when you think of heading out - will try to persuade the little un to come out too.



it's kinda more like rain now here.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 25, 2013, 10:22:28 pm
We are going for it, Mrs Obi keen, roads already covered in  S10 and snowing hard. Getting the kit ready.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2013, 10:57:07 pm
Success?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 27, 2013, 05:54:14 am
yes

I ended up getting out earlier than expected and managed a few hours before my foot had had enough

conditions were "spring like"

"neige Anglais" would be a good term

heavy snow, but soft and fun to ride on

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2013, 07:14:36 am
Neige Bretagne I would say as that sounds like most good days up here too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 27, 2013, 08:17:36 am
this had less wind blown character than Scottish snow
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gingerninja on January 27, 2013, 12:25:09 pm
went out for a couple of hours with some mate to get a few pics before the snow went.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398076_10151417190250149_1004765478_n.jpg)
gleadless valley mini kicker
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428169_10151417190655149_221922213_n.jpg)
upperthorpe rail death
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/59572_10151417190875149_139946690_n.jpg)
upperthorpe jib

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/46361_10151417191030149_668011657_n.jpg)
upperthoerpe jib
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 27, 2013, 01:29:33 pm
Sweet!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 27, 2013, 01:31:00 pm
There was a lot more snow at Ringinglow!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: ianv on February 03, 2013, 09:09:20 am
X Games 2013 ► REAL SNOW MIX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=626haIBUxHc#ws)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 05, 2013, 11:25:29 pm
Ringinglow last week

how it looks is how it was

I was lame and the snow was slow

I had a great time

Piste d'Alpaca on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/59016563)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2013, 11:44:50 pm
X Games 2013 ► REAL SNOW MIX

I sometimes look at rails and things in the local park when it's snowed and think they might be fun. Then I remind myself that I'm in my 40s can't do rails for shit and nearly broke my arse last time I tried to ride a small magic box
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2013, 12:14:39 pm
Piste d'Alpaca on Vimeo

Looks good! Worth the hike.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2013, 03:07:58 pm
Piste d'Alpaca on Vimeo

Looks good! Worth the hike.

given the length and angle of slope and the weight of the suburban snow, the turns were entirely unnecessary, the whole thing could be straight lined; but as everyone knows it's the cost/effort per turn that matters more than the total decent for the day
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2013, 03:10:08 pm
What's the point in straightlining, it's the turns that feel good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2013, 03:19:04 pm
exactly

even my limping, hunched, arms out for rotation control, front foot biased turns felt good

learning to carve without ankle movement/control is gong to be interesting (in the distant future)

maybe time to go back to hard boots?

hard boots for hard men etc.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2013, 03:21:29 pm
Nah. I was boarding with soft boots not long after fucking my ankle. Ski boots felt worse due to inability to absorb any bumpiness in the ankle. Plus any swelling would need boot to be moulded.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on February 06, 2013, 03:45:42 pm




Great stuff gingerninja and lagers, at least you were "out there". 

Piste D'Alpaca has got to stick as a name.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2013, 04:40:34 pm
I contemplated "Face Nord du Col d'Alpaca", but decided that anything with vegetation showing through the snow couldn't be a "face"
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 07, 2013, 02:06:01 pm
Just booked flights for a three day hit in March to Cauterets. Well excited. Snow is amazing there currently.  :dance1:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 07, 2013, 07:49:12 pm
Just bought two transceivers ... $$$$$$ :o

It won't take long for you to think that money very well spent

I know I said it before, but practice a lot

wear them all the time - if the opportunity arises to dip off the managed areas into some nice snow, you won't want to miss it

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: rich d on February 07, 2013, 09:01:27 pm
Obi-Wan I fucking love Cauterets - only ever been in the summer to suffer my way up vignemale and boulder above pont d'espagne. If you don't already follow Cauterets and camping caliberos in cauteret on facebook for some amazing photos and vids of the snow out there, it's proper dumped. Great snow, decent tartiflette followed by a few beers in la Commerce Bar must be as close to perfect as it gets.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2013, 10:52:01 am
Just bought two transceivers ... $$$$$$ :o

And hopefully shovels and probes! No good if one of you gets buried and the other is trying to dig through concrete with his goggles.

As lagers says, any practice is good. There are some transceivers bured in the flat area skiers right of the terrain park on whistler mountain that you can practice with. Learn one person search and multiple person search; both are worth knowing. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2013, 11:06:38 am
Scotland's resort snow is as good as it gets at the moment. We have had dustings at sea level all this week, and significant falls in the hills. If you fancied getting up here this season now is the time to do it. Glenshee has all 22 lifts running and the whole mountain has rideable snow. Shame it gets so fucking crowded on weekends. Think of blowing up the road on the Blairgowrie side.

Hopefully heading up next Friday if anyone fancies it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 08, 2013, 11:27:38 am
And hopefully shovels and probes! .... dig through concrete ...

Metal shovels, therefore. I know people who refuse to go out with folk with plastic shovels.

And yes: practice, practice, practice. I was luring kids* uphill last weekend by burying transceivers with chocolate attached, and had quite forgotten how tricky the last few metres of exact location can be.

(*) my own and those of close friends, I should probably point out
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2013, 12:36:17 pm
plastic shovel; as good as a plastic fireguard.

A beach is a also good place to practice if snow isn't available. You can add time pressure by doing it at low tide!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 08, 2013, 02:05:04 pm
I still have the same metal shovel with wooden handle that I got in 1987

Only used for domestic purposes in the last few years, but still going strong

It'd be interesting to test it to destruction to see how strong it is, but I'm too fond of it to do that

Paintwork is in surprisingly good condition (not that that matters)

on a tenuously related theme - more snow due in Sheffield on Sunday - Possibly get out Sunday evening or if the schools are closed on Monday I'll have a decent excuse to take a days leave and get to Piste d'Alpaca. I assume the base is long gone, but a possible ground frost could make for an OK grass/mud base (desperate? optimistic beyond all reason? merely hopeful?)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2013, 02:16:03 pm
if it's flat grass you need surprisingly little cover, just be aware that edges don't hold as well if you turn and go through the snow layer into grass.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 08, 2013, 06:44:38 pm
There's more snow than you'd think up on the moors. Not much, but where it is at all drifted it's taking a while to melt. Lots of shallow banks at the foot of crags, no idea about Drabina Jakuba but it's at least the right aspect.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 09, 2013, 05:01:16 pm
Just bought two transceivers ... $$$$$$ :o
And hopefully shovels and probes! No good if one of you gets buried and the other is trying to dig through concrete with his goggles.
I have shovel and probe. Didnt want to overburden thesiger_jr (just turned 13). So far we have been out only in a group with two other properly-equipped experienced people. I figured the probability of him being the only person not buried after a slide is pretty small. But he almost ran up the second bootpack we tackled yesterday so maybe is already ready for some extra load in the rucksack.

Awesome day actually. Fresh snow from previous three days, clear skies, no wind, very few people venturing out of the resort. Only negative was riding back into the village on the Singing Pass trail ... a nightmare on a board ... ever done it?
Get him loaded up - marginal weight.

Haven't done Singing Pass as it's well known to be a nightmare on a board - not much fun on skis either I believe.
Always best to MTFU and skin back over to the shoulder on Flute, board back down into Symphony  - you then have to walk a flat spot before you can pick up Burnt Stew - then board out along that to Sidewinder - at this point, you should reach a fresh strip of pure corduroy (this is one of the first sections they groom after the punters have gone) - once on the corduroy, point the board straight downhill and turn on your inner soundtrack of ride of the valkyries...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2013, 10:21:13 am
Burnt stew is just about doable on a board but a good wax job helps with the flatlining. Still unpleasant though
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2013, 08:20:00 pm
beautiful

something that that vid reminded me of, for when you go down the same slopes after they are tracked out a bit more (the main issue with accessible back-country)   - you probably know already, other folk might be interested, but a great deal of fun can be had by using someone else's track at the top of a slope to pick up a shed load of speed so that ripping over the chopped/tracked snow can still feel very floaty. Higher speed means skimming higher on the snow and the tracks that you cut across don't affect you so much - and you tend to maintain your higher speed due to less resistance from the snow

I probably could explain it better, but you'd be better off just finding out. Very fast over chopped/tracked, but still soft snow is good fun

*edit*
from the footage of the nose of his board, thesiger-jr looks to be weighting his back foot fine for the soft stuff - if you do some of what I mention above, it needs a slightly more balanced weighting of the board - weighting the rear of the board too much will make you feel the tracks that you cross as though they were speed-bumps outside a school

*edit 2*
do I sound like the smug local who turns up at the crag and gives you the beta to everything whether you want it or not?

I do the same with the neighbours when they do anything DIY related (no, not really, what kind of cunt do you take me for?)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2013, 08:24:32 pm
We's been warned about Singing Pass, and so avoided. is carrying snowshoes an option?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2013, 09:06:10 pm

At risk of turning this into the BC thread: here's the good bit of our day from thesiger_jr gopro footage. It's much like derbyshire under snow really.


comments disabled on the video, but... where the filming cuts off did he shower the two folk in front with white stuff?

looked like he was just about to turn too hard to the right...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fiend on February 10, 2013, 09:20:53 pm
Scotland's resort snow is as good as it gets at the moment. We have had dustings at sea level all this week, and significant falls in the hills. If you fancied getting up here this season now is the time to do it. Glenshee has all 22 lifts running and the whole mountain has rideable snow. Shame it gets so fucking crowded on weekends. Think of blowing up the road on the Blairgowrie side.

Hopefully heading up next Friday if anyone fancies it.
OMG even Cairnwell??
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 11, 2013, 04:35:21 am
Always best to MTFU and skin back over to the shoulder on Flute
Nothing left in the budget after buying the transceivers ... so no splitboard+skins for the "skin back" yet. However ... we have already concluded that even a post-holing trudge would be preferable to ever going near SP again.
Quote
at this point, you should reach a fresh strip of pure corduroy (this is one of the first sections they groom after the punters have gone) - once on the corduroy, point the board straight downhill and turn on your inner soundtrack of ride of the valkyries...
What time of night are we talking about!
Even snow shoeing back would be preferable, even from Cowboy - just try not to bugger up the skintrack too much.
Punters are normally cleared from slopes by 4:30. Any time after that you can expect to find a vacant corduroy highway...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 11, 2013, 09:15:16 am
OMG even Cairnwell??

Cairnwell and the tiger have been open for a while. Carn A(o)sda was last to open, it wasn't getting any base down as it gets wind from both sides. Looks like snow on and off all week, still hoping for Friday.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 14, 2013, 10:18:21 am
Should this thread be renamed snooooooooowsports?

JP Auclair Street Segment (from All.I.Can.) on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/32863936)

Just mad.

Check out the other Sherpa Films clips too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on March 14, 2013, 12:36:49 pm

You'd have to run a poll first?

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8556253403_fb84179982.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicandpiff/8556253403/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 14, 2013, 12:43:26 pm
No, I'll just do a pretend poll and then change it anyway :)

That you? where?

Hoping for last hit of Scottish snow for the season tomorrow. Inshallah.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on March 14, 2013, 12:58:07 pm
My photo, mate riding.

Col Des Ves, Tignes from recent splitboarding week ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 14, 2013, 02:34:17 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 18, 2013, 12:46:28 pm
Snow was great, visibility non-existent. Forecast to snow on and off all week - get up here soon if you plan to this season.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 29, 2013, 09:01:54 pm
Finally ticked Winnat's on Weds. Best run of the year by a mile, Woop! 36 hours earlier it would have been mint, a tad slow but a was a bit nervous about a full-depth avalanche.

Big Wednesday on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/62954393)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2013, 09:13:09 pm
Quality vid Adam, but I'm holding you responsible for this: ;)

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/644758_612635408765902_1370564059_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/27156_612636318765811_1459003907_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527747_612635448765898_996130793_n.jpg)

(via SingleTrackWorld) (http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/avalanche)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 29, 2013, 09:27:33 pm
Ahem. We stuck carefully to the shady side. Honest Guv!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 18, 2013, 11:27:04 pm
time to start training for when this gets in to the Olympics

Water Sliding Fest 2013 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/64307338)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 19, 2013, 09:14:04 am
Annual last day of the season thing at Winter Park where I worked. Not easy, and the splashdown hurts if you dig the nose in.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on May 07, 2013, 10:10:36 am
Hell's Lum got skiied last weekend, pics look pant filling. Apparently a video is on it's way.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 18, 2013, 10:09:23 am
http://www.skimountain.co.uk/scottish-offpiste-skiing-snowboarding-nevis (http://www.skimountain.co.uk/scottish-offpiste-skiing-snowboarding-nevis)

looks like a good guidebook.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on October 31, 2013, 03:59:14 pm
have you ever wondered what would happen on a fully loaded chairlift if there was a power failure and rollback brake wasn't working??

Rollback of a chairlift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8rXiN_Oys4#)

Full tests here, if you are interested

Chairlift Destroy Crash Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4WPSZojtyE#)

scary one is fire at 11:29
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 16, 2013, 09:18:46 am
Great piece of kit! Size?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 16, 2013, 10:52:03 am
Very nice. What binding system did you go for?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 16, 2013, 11:55:42 am
They'll be Voile.

If those are Cartel bindings make sure the top strap doesn't drop out when you're switching the bindings from ride to climb on the hill otherwise you'll end up looking for them for ages in trampled snow or riding for the rest of the day with no toe strap.  And no gaffer tape doesn't work sub-zero.  If you come up with a decent solution let me know.  I'm thinking of drilling a hole through the strap and binding and either putting a bolt in there or a tie wrap to retain the toe strap.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 16, 2013, 05:52:27 pm
I didn't think they looked like Voile. Any reason you went for those over Karakoram? I thought those were all the rage in BC...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on December 18, 2013, 03:22:53 am
They'll be Voile.

 And no gaffer tape doesn't work sub-zero.
Hockey tape does - I always carry a roll in my winter emergency kit... Can use it to fix skins on as well if your glue is suspect...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Norton Sharley on December 19, 2013, 12:48:49 pm
Nice one, will try some of that.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 19, 2013, 01:59:02 pm
I spect this will get a flatline response but...

Anyone planning an Alps trip this winter? We are thinking of going with the family (1 1/2 and 4), 4 year old will probably be in ski school for some of the time, and youngest in creche for some of the time, but we will be spending some time with them either on slopes, or doing other non-skiing things, so one or the other of us will be out solo some of the time. If anyone is doing something similar and be looking for someone to ride with drop me a pm or reply here. We are both competent boarders and up for anything (not too keen on spending too much time in parks though!). And we can can do just about anything on piste on skis if that's preferred.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 19, 2013, 02:48:00 pm
I'm not suggesting living out of each other's pockets btw, just being at the same place and doing some riding together.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on December 19, 2013, 03:29:15 pm
I'll be in Alpbach for Bavarian half term 1st to 8th of March, mostly boarding with my 10 yo son though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 19, 2013, 04:02:57 pm
Oh yeah, and this is the last year we will be able to avoid school holidays.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on December 20, 2013, 07:18:09 am
Definitely make the most of that chance. It all gets much more expensive and crowded from here on in.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 03, 2014, 12:04:10 pm
Thought I'd resurect this thread rather than starting a new one...

I'm looking at geting a new pair of boots and have been looking at the Burton Rulers (good mix of flex, stiffness and cost) but can't find anywhere in Sheff now Slide's gone and the ski village burnt down so gonna have to go t'inteweb...

I know buying boots is a minefield online so just wanted to see if anyone had any info on sizes that Burton boots come up? (i.e. should I be looking at going street size? Half up? Half down? Full up/down?  :shrug:)

I wear a 9.5/10 street, 8.5 anasazi green, 10 walking boot.... So basicaly a 9, 9.5, 10, 10.5 are what I'm looking for...

Cheers!

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 03, 2014, 12:12:32 pm
I can check mine later, but pretty sure mine are street size.

I got a pair of Burton Freestyles, in 2002, I've probably worn them for well over 100 days now, and they are still in great nick; softened up a bit, and a bit of scuffing on the heels where they sit in bindings, but still in great shape and no desire to change any time soon. If build quality is as good as it was, I'd recommend Burton, as long as they have a basic lacing design, and no fancy ratchet, cable or twisty dial lacing systems.

Still a big lottery buying online though, worth taking a trip up to Ellis Brigham at Casleford?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 03, 2014, 12:16:55 pm
Big dick's boardstore on Infirmary Road do Salomon and 32 boots if you're willing to change brand for convenience of trying them on first locally or like Chris says Ellis Brigham (coupled with trip to the Cliff).

http://www.dicksboardstore.co.uk//index.php?cPath=7_11 (http://www.dicksboardstore.co.uk//index.php?cPath=7_11)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: north_country_boy on February 03, 2014, 12:21:22 pm
Thought I'd resurect this thread rather than starting a new one...

I'm looking at geting a new pair of boots and have been looking at the Burton Rulers (good mix of flex, stiffness and cost) but can't find anywhere in Sheff now Slide's gone and the ski village burnt down so gonna have to go t'inteweb...

I know buying boots is a minefield online so just wanted to see if anyone had any info on sizes that Burton boots come up? (i.e. should I be looking at going street size? Half up? Half down? Full up/down?  :shrug:)

I wear a 9.5/10 street, 8.5 anasazi green, 10 walking boot.... So basicaly a 9, 9.5, 10, 10.5 are what I'm looking for...

Cheers!

:D

If it helps, I have a pair of Burton SLX (recently purchased to replace a pair of moto's) in a 9 and my street show is a 9.

Had Moto's in a 9 previously, and tried Ion's when i bought the SLX...all in a 9. Sizing seems the same across all three. Worth trying to speak to an independent retailer before ordering to get the low-down on variations in sizing for the Ruler in comparison....

I would highly recommend https://www.freezeproshop.com/ (https://www.freezeproshop.com/) in Edinburgh
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 03, 2014, 12:24:48 pm
Cheers guys - was in Cas on Friday but ran out of time and although I had a good chat I kinda know what I want and felt a bit of a cnut trying boots on the going and getting em online (sucks a bit that no other store but EB is able to sell boots in Xscape tho)... Might go have a chat with Dick tho as I need some bindings anyways...

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 03, 2014, 12:27:29 pm
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I would highly recommend https://www.freezeproshop.com/ (https://www.freezeproshop.com/) in Edinburgh

Just spoke to them as they have the ones I want in a 9.5. and a 10.5 (currently wearing a Scarpa 9.5 approach)...

Spot on guys - really wanna give them my money ;-)

:D
 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 03, 2014, 12:41:17 pm
Didn't realise Big Dicks was still there, has been closed when I've driven past recently, probably just the timing I drive past.

Another time if you want somewhere local-ish Robin Hoods Watersports had a decent range of boarding stuff last time I was up there. Haven't been for a while but not too bad from Sheffield

http://www.roho.co.uk/watersports/Snowboard.html (http://www.roho.co.uk/watersports/Snowboard.html)

Works well combined with an 'essential' visit to IKEA.  ;)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 03, 2014, 12:55:04 pm
The word on the street out here is that the newer Burton's are pish and break down/bag out really badly. (i.e. like 10 rides) I just had to replace my 11 year of Burton Ions, which served me well, but everyone I know said NO Burton and even the local bottfitter has stopped stocking them. I ended up with a pair of Deeluxe Viscous which are reputed to be, and seem, solid!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 03, 2014, 12:59:53 pm
I still rate Salomon. Had a pair of Salomon Dialogues for more than 10 years, just about wearing out now. Would definitely have another pair or similar.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 03, 2014, 01:14:30 pm
I actually wanted to get Salomon Malamutes but they didn't have nay in my size and neither do Salomon...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 03, 2014, 01:14:56 pm
How stiff are the Dialogues? And how do they size up? Surfdome have em for a decent price right now....

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 03, 2014, 01:15:28 pm
The word on the street out here is that the newer Burton's are pish and break down/bag out really badly. (i.e. like 10 rides) I just had to replace my 11 year of Burton Ions, which served me well, but everyone I know said NO Burton and even the local bottfitter has stopped stocking them. I ended up with a pair of Deeluxe Viscous which are reputed to be, and seem, solid!

Are you straying back to the dark side?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 03, 2014, 01:25:30 pm
Ha, well, I mainly snowboard when I'm out with Bella as she mainly snowboards. There's too much speed disparity between us if I ski and she snowboards. Oh, and lift served powder is still a lot of fun. I'm tempted to upgrade my 7 year old Ride Timeless for something a bit more modern (read: rockered!)

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 03, 2014, 01:36:14 pm
rocker shmocker. Demo one, i found them lifeless. Might be good in powder, but I felt it lacked any pop when turning, carving or ollying, felt like riding my old Burton Craig Kelly Air from late 90s. Possibly a good addition to a quiver, but wouldn't get one as an all round board. IMO anyway.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 03, 2014, 02:16:34 pm
rocker shmocker. Demo one, i found them lifeless. Might be good in powder, but I felt it lacked any pop when turning, carving or ollying, felt like riding my old Burton Craig Kelly Air from late 90s. Possibly a good addition to a quiver, but wouldn't get one as an all round board. IMO anyway.

Ha, going to be a total bell-end here Chris, but powder is all I ride on a board...so...  rocker it is! All my skis are cambered underfoot with rocker tips and I wouldn't ski anything else. I'm sure boards will be just the same - not sure I'd want "full" rocker, but something like a K2 Slayblade or Jones Flagship would probably be sweet. What are you riding just now?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 03, 2014, 02:21:53 pm
I've still got my Burton Baron 167. Midwide, stiff and so fast. Bit of a weight to swing in the park, but I've never been that keen at showpony tricks anyway. Old Burton Canyon 162 is my Scotland  / rock board.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 03, 2014, 05:56:32 pm
 :boohoo:
How stiff are the Dialogues? And how do they size up? Surfdome have em for a decent price right now....

:D
On the stiffer end of the scale - maybe 7 or 8/10 ( if that makes sense?). I rate them, and they've lasted well (8 seasons out of them and they're still good).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 04, 2014, 11:10:21 am
Sound good.... Stiffer than the rulers and cheaper (and judging by Fultonius's info not as liable to turn into Ugg boots after a few days) - surfdome will also pay any return postage so reckon I'll order two pairs and send one back....

Any recomendations on bindings? Looking for a stiffer all mountain type, too old for the park or pipe  :whistle:...

Was looking at the Rome Arsenals as a mid price solution (would love some of those Union carbon jobbies but the wallet ain't having none of that)... Also looking at Burton classics - these look ace (simple design, well stiff, bombproof) but seem to be marketed as a splitboard binding (not a bad idea if I ever got a splitty I suppose).... Any thoughts?

Ta,

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 04, 2014, 11:20:43 am
What's your budget? I've got a pair of Drake (who i think are now owned by northwave) Mikey Le Blanc bindings which I really rate - nice mix of metal components where strength is needed and plastic where not, and nice comfy padding on straps. Discs can fit any hole layout on board, so you don't need to buy new ones if you switch boards (admittedly may not be an issue). And still going strong after years of use and abuse. Cap straps are worth a look if your boot is suitable, they don't work well on mine as the toe box is too rounded and they just slip off.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 04, 2014, 11:49:26 am
Don't really wanna go over £150 really (initial budget was boots and bindings for £250ish....very ish  :shrug:)...

Been riding for over 20 years (sporadically) so wanting summat responsive rather than flexi really....

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 04, 2014, 05:36:21 pm
Sound good.... Stiffer than the rulers and cheaper (and judging by Fultonius's info not as liable to turn into Ugg boots after a few days) - surfdome will also pay any return postage so reckon I'll order two pairs and send one back....

Any recomendations on bindings? Looking for a stiffer all mountain type, too old for the park or pipe  :whistle:...

Was looking at the Rome Arsenals as a mid price solution (would love some of those Union carbon jobbies but the wallet ain't having none of that)... Also looking at Burton classics - these look ace (simple design, well stiff, bombproof) but seem to be marketed as a splitboard binding (not a bad idea if I ever got a splitty I suppose).... Any thoughts?

Ta,

:D

FWIW, I wear street 8.5 (UK), and my Solutions are also 8.5 (I take Anasazi in 7.5 if that's of any use).

For bindings, I was using the Burton Custom (which I liked), but have switched to the stiffer Burton Malavita - definitely at the all-mountain charging end of the spectrum  :punk:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 04, 2014, 07:46:16 pm
Bit the bullet and ordered a pair of Salomon Dialogues (well 2 pairs actually as Surfdome do free returns) and the Burton classic bindings - still not sure on these but they rate a 9 for response on the Burton site and although they do say for splitty's I've seen a couple of reviews that state they're basically a Cartel with easier access to the disc.... Will see what they're like tomorrow I suppose.

Psyched! Not had my own setup since my old Craig Kelly Air bit the dust and have probably spent a fortune hiring decent boards and mediocre boots over the years.... :slap:

Better be some decent Powder in Cham over half-term!!

Cheers for the info guys  :thumbsup:

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 04, 2014, 08:19:24 pm
The snowpack has been steadily building in Cham. You just need to get lucky with a top-up before you get here.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2014, 09:44:54 am
Don't really wanna go over £150 really (initial budget was boots and bindings for £250ish....very ish  :shrug:)...

Been riding for over 20 years (sporadically) so wanting summat responsive rather than flexi really....

IMO bit of a lottey without seeing them in person and more importantly seeing how they fit together with your boot. Some bindings seem to be designed for fuller volume boots and as the width is normally fixed you can get a lot of play (not so much in the heel, more towards the front of the foot, no matter how hard you crank the binding down. Worth taking a boot with you and going somewhere with a good range to try for fit.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 05, 2014, 01:33:06 pm
Turned up this morning - Bindings seem bombproof, decent amount of padding on ball and heel of the foot (none in the middle as the disc sits there but not so bothered about this really), well solid highback with a fair amount of padding.... Boots fit well, got a pair of 9.5's and 10's and there's not much to choose between them sizewise, both are a snug fit with toes just brushing the ends when upright but with a  fair bit of wiggle room when strapped in, going to play it safe and go with the 10's... Bindings seem to fit the boots pretty well too, no pressure points, no lateral movement, toecap sits pretty much spot on... Just gotta send back the 9.5's and I'm ready to go!

Ace!

:D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 05, 2014, 02:15:45 pm
I put a fair old hole/dent in my edge last time I was out, so I attacked it with a vice, hammer and epoxy. Today I flattened the base with sandpaper and a block, deburred and sharpened the edges and filled the rest of the core shot with more epoxy (can never be bothered with PTEX - I don't think the change in drag from a 1cm^2 section is worth worrying about).

I got the baseplate on my binding replaced free (Burton lifetime warranty) so all that's left is a wax and scrape and my board should do me the rest of the season before being officially relegated to the "rock board".
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: 2 Tru on February 07, 2014, 03:11:03 pm
Really happy, sorry stoked to see Jamie Nicholls progress to the finals in the Olympic slopestyle event. Turns out he's also climbs.

http://www.jamienichollsuk.com/?p=2282 (http://www.jamienichollsuk.com/?p=2282)

(http://www.jamienichollsuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IMG_7714-1024x683.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Stubbs on February 07, 2014, 03:17:20 pm
Stomped it too! think the finals are tomorrow afternoon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/winter-olympics/25811382 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/winter-olympics/25811382)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Grubes on February 09, 2014, 04:59:18 pm
Woo hoo
First ever medal on snow  :great:
Well done jenny Jones
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2014, 08:57:13 am
Cover in Scotland is great right now, had a day at Glenshee Friday, west coast is apparently even better.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 13, 2014, 02:25:00 pm
quick edit from my trip to Grand Bornand Le Grand Bornand 2014 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/85654615)

not exactly charging any more i know (getting a bit old for that) but still had a bit of fun in the pow
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 10, 2014, 09:30:16 am
http://www.tetongravity.com/films/jeremy-jones-further/watch/ (http://www.tetongravity.com/films/jeremy-jones-further/watch/)

Worth a watch while it's free.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 10, 2014, 09:38:58 pm
http://www.tetongravity.com/films/jeremy-jones-further/watch/ (http://www.tetongravity.com/films/jeremy-jones-further/watch/)

Worth a watch while it's free.
If you've got any 'mates in prison' who might not be available to watch it whilst it's free, or who might potentially want to want to watch it again when they get out...
if they bung this
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http://player.vimeo.com/video/87821325
into this http://savevideo.me/ (http://savevideo.me/) they might want to right click and save as... :whistle:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2015, 01:50:17 pm
So....

Heading for Alps mid March and got choice of; either 4/5 days in Les Gets with car and access to PdS, Grand Massif and several other lesser known resorts in the area, which i know well and how to access off piste stuff etc, or got a chance for a couple of days in La Grave (where I've never been) with a guide and then a couple of days in Les Gets. Would join some mates there who are going with a guide so that would cost a bit, plus would need to get there from Geneva, which would lose me a day of riding to travelling. I'm fairly advanced level boarder and definite preference for off piste / powder riding.

How hit and miss is La Grave? Is it likely to be tracked out if it's not snowed in a while, and if the weather is crap is there still things to do?

Thanks
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gingerninja on January 16, 2015, 11:02:40 am
la grave is supposed to have some really good off piste but if theres been no snow for a while it could be a bit poo.
id look and see when last snow was a check the snow report for conditions. if its not had much then go to les gets, at least you can go flying around the piste if the off piste isnt up to much. plus you get the extra day sliding.
have a good one.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 16, 2015, 11:44:57 am
Chris,
Why are you going?
I obviously have a bias for touring and getting off the beaten path but…..

La Grave – never been but it’s on the list. Drop the idea of waist deep virgin powder and embrace the idea of the adventure, whatever the snow will be like, awesome descents in fantastic scenery (you’ll be with a guide so getting off the beaten track should be easy).

I did three seasons in the Grand Massif and it’s an area very close to my heart (I know the other areas pretty well too). Going back I still know what where to go for the best snow on a given day but my desire has moved from just skiing to going to new places, exploring and having an adventure. I’ve enjoyed my recent Scottish trips immensely despite not actually skiing much!

If you just want a lot of time on the board, Les Gets…….
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 16, 2015, 01:36:33 pm
La Grave won't lose you a day if you have a car - easily make it there and bake in the evenings.

In March, it *should* be ok. I've only been once, snow was average but we had fun. I'd say take the risk - you've had loads of good days in your life Chris, better take the chance on some *really* good days, than opting for the easy option.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 17, 2015, 10:07:29 am
As I'm sure you know, the fact that La Grave is both North facing and high altitude means it will be much less affected by the relatively poor season snowfall to date. Les Gets has suffered big time so far, though snow is falling as we speak.

Personally I'd go to La Grave if you have the chance, conditions will be as you take them, ie you might be lucky or not but either way it will be much more interesting than cruising round PdS.

This blog is reasonably local to La Grave too in Serre Chevalier so might give an idea as to snow conditions www.stylealtitude.com/gallery (http://www.stylealtitude.com/gallery)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 17, 2015, 11:14:23 am
15cm outside, probably 30cm on the mountain. I'm resting up for tomorrow - finally some face-shots beckon!

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easily make it there and bake in the evenings

I mean, you can bake if you really want   :-[
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 22, 2015, 01:26:51 pm
Sorry for delayed response, I was a bit vague on details. I won't have access to car to get from Geneva to La Grave, so will be dependant on public transport as far as Grenoble from where I can get a lift, so will take a bit of time to get there.

Anyhow, upshot is I'm convinced! I've got flight to Geneva booked to arrive early morning Wednesday 11th, Flying back Monday evening 16th March. Just seeing if accomdation and place with guide in La Grave are still available!

If anyone is about on Pds or nearby on 16th I'll be on my tod if anyone is up for some riding.

Thanks for input!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2015, 12:23:10 pm
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Chamonix/6day/mid (http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Chamonix/6day/mid)

Fultonius, I hate you. Anyone who is out there next week, I hate you too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 27, 2015, 06:23:34 pm
 8) :yes: :guilty:

Just think of  it a different way, it's finally going to fill in the nice lines and cover the rocks. Our edges and bases have been shark-fodder all January!  There's also a really sketch base layer so there's going to be some nasty avalanches - I'm going to keep it low risk until it all settles!

Still....  :dance1:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on February 06, 2015, 10:14:02 am
Can anyone recommend a board repair/service shop in Sheffield, or nearby?

Got a Lib Tech that's been sat in the garage for a few years but only had 2 weeks use on it before I tore an edge out. Just want to see if it's fixable/viable for use.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2015, 10:21:20 am
the guys at Decathlon have all the gear; worth asking/showing them as a starting point
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2015, 10:43:24 am
place with guide in La Grave are still available!

Guide says no :(  4 is max limit he can take.

So going to be in PdS area Wednesday 11th to Monday 16th March if anyone is about?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 06, 2015, 10:55:00 am
Nope, sorry. I'm touring in the Vanoise the weekend before but will be back at my desk looking longingly at photos by then.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2015, 11:02:36 am
You going to make it up here this year? I've upgraded my touring boots, need to justify the expense!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 06, 2015, 01:19:04 pm
Can anyone recommend a board repair/service shop in Sheffield, or nearby?

Got a Lib Tech that's been sat in the garage for a few years but only had 2 weeks use on it before I tore an edge out. Just want to see if it's fixable/viable for use.

There used to be a snowboard shop down at Shalesmoor/Infirmary road, not sure if it is still there though since I moved out of the neighbourhood. If your board has had it, I've got a Burton Dominant 156 in great condition that I can pretty much give you as its just gathering dust at the moment. Needs a wax but otherwise in perfect nick.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 06, 2015, 02:04:34 pm
Shit I'll have it if he doesn't. 156 might be a bit small for Bubba?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on February 06, 2015, 05:42:04 pm
the guys at Decathlon have all the gear; worth asking/showing them as a starting point
Good call - they can't fix the damage but they didn't think it was too bad and said it might be worth just using epoxy and a clamp to fix.  I'm getting an edge service and wax done there anyway for £18.

There used to be a snowboard shop down at Shalesmoor/Infirmary road, not sure if it is still there though since I moved out of the neighbourhood. If your board has had it, I've got a Burton Dominant 156 in great condition that I can pretty much give you as its just gathering dust at the moment. Needs a wax but otherwise in perfect nick.
Cheers Tim but I reckon it might be a bit small for my bulk in powder :)  I've heard that shop is shut but I'll try ringing them tomorrow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 06, 2015, 06:09:49 pm
You going to make it up here this year? I've upgraded my touring boots, need to justify the expense!

Doubt it. My wife has just started back full time and with on calls and weekends etc, I' e not got a pass for Scotland. I' e got this Vanoise trip and I'm up doing the Highlander MM again. I'm toying with Scotland but think my passes have run out for the winter/spring!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 06, 2015, 06:24:27 pm
You going to make it up here this year? I've upgraded my touring boots, need to justify the expense!


You got a splitty Chris?

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Cheers Tim but I reckon it might be a bit small for my bulk in powder

Seriously, I would be well keen for a cheap 156 if you want shot of it bigtub.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 07, 2015, 04:32:54 pm
You going to make it up here this year? I've upgraded my touring boots, need to justify the expense!


You got a splitty Chris?

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Cheers Tim but I reckon it might be a bit small for my bulk in powder

Seriously, I would be well keen for a cheap 156 if you want shot of it bigtub.

OK then, its a full on twin tip park board, as I said, needs a wax but other than that, in great condition as bought a Burton Nug soon after which better suits my riding. PM me if you want to sort out looking at it. Just had a look on eBay and seen a few going for £80. don't want anywhere near that for it. Probably £50 should see you right.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 07, 2015, 04:34:15 pm
the guys at Decathlon have all the gear; worth asking/showing them as a starting point
Good call - they can't fix the damage but they didn't think it was too bad and said it might be worth just using epoxy and a clamp to fix.  I'm getting an edge service and wax done there anyway for £18.

There used to be a snowboard shop down at Shalesmoor/Infirmary road, not sure if it is still there though since I moved out of the neighbourhood. If your board has had it, I've got a Burton Dominant 156 in great condition that I can pretty much give you as its just gathering dust at the moment. Needs a wax but otherwise in perfect nick.
Cheers Tim but I reckon it might be a bit small for my bulk in powder :)  I've heard that shop is shut but I'll try ringing them tomorrow.
No problem bubba hope you get it sorted. When and where you heading? Did a week over new year and heading to Arlberg in March for a week too. Would go more but work gets in the way...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 07, 2015, 06:19:47 pm
Cool, I'll pm you.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on February 09, 2015, 12:10:01 am
When and where you heading?
Not much left but we got a last minute deal to La Plagne / Les Arcs. I've not been for ages so that'll be perfect for me to relearn.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 09, 2015, 07:13:25 am
 :please:
When and where you heading?
Not much left but we got a last minute deal to La Plagne / Les Arcs. I've not been for ages so that'll be perfect for me to relearn.
nice area, have a good one and hope you get back on it quickly
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2015, 08:44:22 am
You got a splitty Chris?



No, I'm an ambirider; prefer skis for touring, or when conditions are shit for a snowboard (i.e. most of the time in Scotland).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Bubba on March 05, 2015, 08:25:26 pm
Quick La Plagne report:


Good end of season bargains to be had - I've just bought one of these beauties (http://www.lib-tech.com/snowboards/banana-magic/) from the epictv.com shop (https://shop.epictv.com/en/products/snowboards?search_api_views_fulltext=&sort_by=field_product_commerce_price_amount_decimal_asc_1&view_mode=grid) for £348. They price matched a cheap Paris shop and cut another £25 off as well. Nice.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 06, 2015, 09:41:29 am
Souinds like a good trip Bubba. Not been to La Plagne since 1989, but sounds about right.

Looks like Azores HP in place for my trip on Wednesday. No powder fix for me :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on December 07, 2015, 08:14:46 am
Go wide or go home? That is the question.

I'm contemplating a new snowboard, in the probably vain hope of keeping up with my twelve year old son for another season or two, and I've seen a cheap deal on a last year's model Nitro Team. Seems to get good reviews as a decent all rounder, and I'm wondering about sizing.

I'm around 85+ kilos dressed in boarding kit with - here's the crucial dimension - size 45 feet. Currently on a 159 board and thinking a bit bigger might be a good idea, so 162, but I'm wondering whether to go for a standard or a wide board. A lot of people, e.g. Neil McNab, seem to recommend wideish boards for my size feet, but from the specs it seems this particular Nitro is *really* wide - 270mm waist.

Opinions?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 07, 2015, 08:34:58 am
the board that brought me the most joy was a wide Nitro Hazard (possibly 162) - I think it was the 1993/4 model

size 45 feet and I used home-customized Koflachs some of the time which were even longer than my soft boots

nothing like the disappointing feel of your toes dragging and ruining a good carve using a narrow board with long feet

a wide board also floats better on the soft stuff for the heavier athlete
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on December 07, 2015, 09:12:17 am
Depends what you mainly do piste or pow? I'm 45 and u was suffering a load of drag in heavy fresh snow. Light pow was OK. Piste fine. If I ever bought  another board it would be a big mountain wide pow thing,  but I mainly ski now.

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2015, 09:23:45 am
For the best ride, go wide! I've got a fairly stiff 167 midwide (Burton Baron), and it carves brilliantly, fast as fuck on piste and is amazing in powder. I'm about 85-90 kgs too and 45 feet. Wouldn't want to try and get any big rotations on it in the park or pipe though, but I'm not into that at all.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on December 07, 2015, 12:50:24 pm
Agree with the above. Just be cautious with the flex on a big wide board. Whilst you'll want it stiff to be able to hold an edge and speed well on the groomers, you can go too stiff and end up with a board which is unforgiving when you just want to ease off the gas a little. Been bitten before buying a big mountain board only to find that it was mentally exhausting riding it in anything other than slack or backcountry terrain.


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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 05, 2016, 11:49:39 am
Everyone sorted for the season?

Just booked flights, going to be in Les Gets area 3-8 Feb. Riding on my own on 3rd before mates turn up so if anyone is about and fancies doing some riding, give me a shout. Will have a car so can hit up Portes du Soleil, Grand Massif or share the delights of Praz de Lys.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 16, 2016, 05:39:02 pm
Just arrived back from five days in Courmayeur. Never considered Italy before as a place to go as thought I was happy with mostly Austria and France. But, I'd gone and won a charity auction trip before Christmas here so thought it would be good. The resort is actually a very cool area, with a small but nice selection of red and blue groomers with a couple of blacks. But, for those of you used to the bun fight for powder at places like Grand Montets, this place is a dream. Mid-week and it is pretty much deserted, and those few that are about either don't like going off piste, don't like riding trees, or don't like bad visibility. Hence, had all the little off piste stashes untouched for hours on end, getting fresh lines well in to each afternoon.

And, the bonus to top it all is that the standard of both on mountain and resort centre dining is amazing. I knew obviously that the Italians are generally renowned for their cooking but this was better than I was hoping. One mountain restaurant was probably up in the top three meals I've ever had. A final YYFY too, decided to get back on skis for the first time in 25 years (and when I was 15 I only did about 5 or 6 hours of lessons) and ended up skiing blues and a couple of reds by the end of the second morning of lessons. Result  ;D
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 18, 2016, 09:00:52 am
But, for those of you used to the bun fight for powder at places like Grand Montets, this place is a dream. Mid-week and it is pretty much deserted, and those few that are about either don't like going off piste, don't like riding trees, or don't like bad visibility. Hence, had all the little off piste stashes untouched for hours on end, getting fresh lines well in to each afternoon.

I know a few spots like that! Awesome, sounds like a good trip.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 25, 2016, 01:04:35 pm
Just arrived back from five days in Courmayeur. Never considered Italy before as a place to go as thought I was happy with mostly Austria and France. But, I'd gone and won a charity auction trip before Christmas here so thought it would be good. The resort is actually a very cool area, with a small but nice selection of red and blue groomers with a couple of blacks. But, for those of you used to the bun fight for powder at places like Grand Montets, this place is a dream. Mid-week and it is pretty much deserted, and those few that are about either don't like going off piste, don't like riding trees, or don't like bad visibility. Hence, had all the little off piste stashes untouched for hours on end, getting fresh lines well in to each afternoon.

And, the bonus to top it all is that the standard of both on mountain and resort centre dining is amazing. I knew obviously that the Italians are generally renowned for their cooking but this was better than I was hoping. One mountain restaurant was probably up in the top three meals I've ever had. A final YYFY too, decided to get back on skis for the first time in 25 years (and when I was 15 I only did about 5 or 6 hours of lessons) and ended up skiing blues and a couple of reds by the end of the second morning of lessons. Result  ;D



^^^  Shhssshhhh - this is the Chamoniard's local secret!  We used to go through the tunnel regularly on cat-4 shitty weather days to hit the "safe" stashes and eat good pizza!  Did you try the Bombardino's? Certainly lowers your afternoon inhibitions  :alky:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 25, 2016, 01:44:09 pm
Just arrived back from five days in Courmayeur. Never considered Italy before as a place to go as thought I was happy with mostly Austria and France. But, I'd gone and won a charity auction trip before Christmas here so thought it would be good. The resort is actually a very cool area, with a small but nice selection of red and blue groomers with a couple of blacks. But, for those of you used to the bun fight for powder at places like Grand Montets, this place is a dream. Mid-week and it is pretty much deserted, and those few that are about either don't like going off piste, don't like riding trees, or don't like bad visibility. Hence, had all the little off piste stashes untouched for hours on end, getting fresh lines well in to each afternoon.

And, the bonus to top it all is that the standard of both on mountain and resort centre dining is amazing. I knew obviously that the Italians are generally renowned for their cooking but this was better than I was hoping. One mountain restaurant was probably up in the top three meals I've ever had. A final YYFY too, decided to get back on skis for the first time in 25 years (and when I was 15 I only did about 5 or 6 hours of lessons) and ended up skiing blues and a couple of reds by the end of the second morning of lessons. Result  ;D



^^^  Shhssshhhh - this is the Chamoniard's local secret!  We used to go through the tunnel regularly on cat-4 shitty weather days to hit the "safe" stashes and eat good pizza!  Did you try the Bombardino's? Certainly lowers your afternoon inhibitions  :alky:
Didn't try the Bombardino's but only because egg nog makes me quite sick  :sick:

Pizza at Christiana's and the Tunnel were both super, but yeah, anyone else, don't bother going for the mountain, nothing to see here, move along......  :whistle:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 26, 2016, 07:42:08 pm
Sounds like a great day out. Wish I lived both nearer to the mountains to be able to get out and also had enough willing people to commit to doing trips like that. I realise that b) often follows committing to a) though.


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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2016, 10:17:53 am
Well in spite of living relatively close to the mountains it's all fucked here. Warm weather has destroyed most of the snow cover in the space of a week.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 27, 2016, 07:03:31 pm
Where exactly are you Chris? Heard reports of low altitude resorts getting very warm in the Alps the last few weeks but didn't realise it was so bad? Off to Samoens in a few weeks time so could do with a cold, and snowy, snap.


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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2016, 08:21:02 am
Aberdeen! :) Snow in Scotland looks to be a fickle beast this year, I was touring at Ben Lawers two weekends ago in excellent snow, then in the last week the mountains have just about been stripped bare, but it looks like winter has made a bit of a comeback and hopefully we'll get good late season conditions. I'm off to Les Gets on Tuesday, but will have a hire car so looking like we'll be spending most of the time at Flaine and Avoriaz. All accounts the pistes are in pretty good shape, but off piste is a bit of a mixed bag.

You been to Samoen before? Grand Massif is good and varied, top of Flaine has some good off piste, just don't get caught on the wrong side of the mountain late in the day with that one critical lift (Corbalanche) to get back across as queues can be horrendous.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 28, 2016, 09:18:01 am
Samoens is lovely!  Apparently there's some good tree skiing down to Les Carroz but we didn't find it when we were there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2016, 09:36:50 am
There's the massive Cascade run off the back all the way down to Sixt, which is apparently ace, but I've never done as you need to get a bus back to Samoen. Maybe one to do as last run of the day and stop in Sixt for some food, cool little place. There's a new high speed lift from Verclan as well which cuts down queues.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 28, 2016, 11:10:00 am
There's the massive Cascade run off the back all the way down to Sixt, which is apparently ace, but I've never done as you need to get a bus back to Samoen. Maybe one to do as last run of the day and stop in Sixt for some food, cool little place. There's a new high speed lift from Verclan as well which cuts down queues.

Cascade is a lovely scenic run but the skiing is average and it can get quite icy. A nice way to break it up is to eat at the Gite du Lac du Gers. My last season there was in 2005 so this might be a little out of date but……here’s a phone by the piste, give them a bell, they come down with a skidoo, grab a rope and they tow you up to the Gite. Lovely three course set menu lunch then ski down all the way to Sixt. The skiing in Sixt is actually quite good if the snow’s there.

If the snow is good the Gers bowl is the jewel in the crown of off-piste. The best runs in aren’t form Tete Pelouse but form the Tete de Verte. Take the Veret drag up, walk along the crest and there a multiple entries in to the Gers bowl. The first two are the most popular and par a concied entry, are the easiest. Further along the ridge gives increasing challenge of access and run (cliffs to avoid, the odd no fall zone).

I’m not sure if you like touring/hiking at all but the Tete du Colonney makes a nice little morning outing.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2016, 11:35:08 am
Good knowledge!

Assume the Tete de Vertet is the top of the Veret drag lift? Its not marked.

what does "par a concied" mean?

And I can't see the Colonney on the piste map, where abouts is it?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 28, 2016, 11:48:37 am
Good knowledge!

Assume the Tete de Vertet is the top of the Veret drag lift? Its not marked.

what does "par a concied" mean?

And I can't see the Colonney on the piste map, where abouts is it?

Tete de Veret is indeed the top of the Veret Lift. The route is shown here:

(http://pistehors.com/pistehors/haute-savoie/flaine/map.png)

My "Best Run Ever" was from the Tete de Balacha down the south face to the Col de Plate chairlift but this is very conditions dependent and avalanche prone. It hold small spines and is a big slope above a cliff band with numerous couloir exits through with varying degrees of difficult. I was also with local legend Serge Cornillat (http://freerideworldtour.com/riders/serge-cornillat) who epitomised style and "flow". Despite being a skier, watching him made me want to learn to board.

"par a concied" means I'm typing quickly whilst having a coffee whilst at work. It also means "bar a corniced entry"!

Tete du Colonney is in the Flaine bowl, near Tete du Lindars (far right of the piste map). You'd go up the Eggs (Aup de Veran), then either start from the top of the eggs or take Lindars up and cut skiers left on the run down to start higher.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2016, 11:54:39 am
Awesome thanks. Looks like a run off Pelouse first would be a good option to scope out options for entries and exits coming off Veret and Balacha.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 28, 2016, 12:08:55 pm
Awesome thanks. Looks like a run off Pelouse first would be a good option to scope out options for entries and exits coming off Veret and Balacha.

The Gers bowl is massive and despite lots of people gunning for it as soon as it opens, it takes a long time to track out so even if you only go in from Pelouse, it's still really good. The entry from Verwt is obvious though, there are two open gullies and you can see all the way to the drag lift out. There's no significant danger. From further along it starts to get tricky.

If anyone is heading out and wants more info, I could mark up and scan my map and probably give some grid refs for entry points.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 28, 2016, 10:31:58 pm
Thanks all, some great knowledge for my Samoens and Grand Massif trip; I'll see if i can tempt a few others from the group to do a bit of off piste based on this info and depending on snow conditions.

SA Chris, I see what you're saying now about snow conditions in Scotland, heard that it got very warm and wet last week though it looks like the next few days may repair quite a bit of the damage.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2016, 09:11:49 am
Freezing level looks like it's pretty low right now, and it's a bit sleety right now at sea level so hopefully be some more to come. If you are interested http://www.winterhighland.info/general/ is a good source for info.

Hope snow lasts until I get back from France! Last few winters the gully skiing has been good until April, so hopefully be a late season again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 29, 2016, 09:16:42 am
Cheers for the link Chris; if the snow improves in Scotland and there is a lot of fill in on the gully's like you say, there may be a road trip in the pipeline as a few from my running club are keen to get up there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2016, 09:22:25 am
Cool, let me know if you head up.

The new(ish) Ski Mountain Guides are handy if you are after inspiration.

http://www.skimountain.co.uk/ski-guidebooks

British Backcountry on Facebook is good for trip reports too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 29, 2016, 11:24:49 am
Cool, let me know if you head up.

The new(ish) Ski Mountain Guides are handy if you are after inspiration.

http://www.skimountain.co.uk/ski-guidebooks

British Backcountry on Facebook is good for trip reports too.
Will do, those guidebooks look good too thanks, might just get one of them and in turn give me an excuse to splash some money on a split board :)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2016, 11:50:17 am
There's a second hand thread on British Backcountry - splitties do come up there sometimes.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on January 29, 2016, 11:57:36 am
There's a second hand thread on British Backcountry - splitties do come up there sometimes.
Cheers I'll take a look
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: webbo on January 29, 2016, 03:15:04 pm
There's the massive Cascade run off the back all the way down to Sixt, which is apparently ace, but I've never done as you need to get a bus back to Samoen. Maybe one to do as last run of the day and stop in Sixt for some food, cool little place. There's a new high speed lift from Verclan as well which cuts down queues.

Cascade is a lovely scenic run but the skiing is average and it can get quite icy. A nice way to break it up is to eat at the Gite du Lac du Gers. My last season there was in 2005 so this might be a little out of date but……here’s a phone by the piste, give them a bell, they come down with a skidoo, grab a rope and they tow you up to the Gite. Lovely three course set menu lunch then ski down all the way to Sixt. The skiing in Sixt is actually quite good if the snow’s there.

If the snow is good the Gers bowl is the jewel in the crown of off-piste. The best runs in aren’t form Tete Pelouse but form the Tete de Verte. Take the Veret drag up, walk along the crest and there a multiple entries in to the Gers bowl. The first two are the most popular and par a concied entry, are the easiest. Further along the ridge gives increasing challenge of access and run (cliffs to avoid, the odd no fall zone).

I’m not sure if you like touring/hiking at all but the Tete du Colonney makes a nice little morning outing.

Several years ago we stayed over night at Gers then down the Cascade in the morning. We then spent the rest of the day skiing at Sixt. I think this was on my second ever skiing trip so I found an icy Cascade quite challenging only second to doing it on a hard tail mountain bike.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2016, 11:48:00 am
Well our plans were scuppered a bit. We went to Samoen but due to high winds the link to Flaine was closed so no Gers bowl or anything like that. Did score some fresh off some of the north facing ridges, but it was mostly tracked out. Did score great fresh tracks every other day of the trip, one day was one of the best I've ever had. Even got on skis and had a crack at some freshies, good fun!

Anyone who is off to the Alps over the next week or two is going to score more snow than they can eat, looks to be dumping down.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on February 09, 2016, 12:27:29 pm
Not snowboarding but involves the white stuff and is pretty cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqncOP7OzMg
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2016, 12:41:29 pm
It's pretty cool, saw it last week. intrigued to know how he keeps the phone upright and pointing at him.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: slackline on February 09, 2016, 12:55:09 pm
intrigued to know how he keeps the phone upright and pointing at him.

Subscribe to his channel, says on the YouTube page that a "making of" is due out soon (also mentions it took him two years to film it how he wanted, so a fair bit of trial and error likely went into it). 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2016, 01:04:04 pm
Might try it surfing with the go pro! Softer landing for the camera.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 09, 2016, 01:30:43 pm
Well our plans were scuppered a bit. We went to Samoen but due to high winds the link to Flaine was closed so no Gers bowl or anything like that. Did score some fresh off some of the north facing ridges, but it was mostly tracked out. Did score great fresh tracks every other day of the trip, one day was one of the best I've ever had. Even got on skis and had a crack at some freshies, good fun!

Anyone who is off to the Alps over the next week or two is going to score more snow than they can eat, looks to be dumping down.
Fly first thing on Saturday morning though having to fly to Paris and drive (don't ask). Will be in Samoens from Saturday night for a week though so hope your prediction of endless snow is true! How did you find getting back on skis?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2016, 02:18:45 pm
This is usually pretty accurate;

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Samoens/6day/mid

Freezing level is a bit high, but you should be able to make the most of the higher lifts.

I usually try and get a day on skis if it's hard packed pistes only, but we had fresh snow every day and the penultimate day it started out sunny and then got more and more snowy as the day progressed, so was ideal to get used to skis on the pistes and then deal with the snow as it deepened. Mate who was with me has instructed in the past so was great for giving out pointers. By the end of the day I managed 3 black runs in reasonable style, in pretty crappy visibility, with a few inches of fresh towards the en of the day. I think lightly moguled runs with some fresh on the top it's easy to get down them though, but it's enthused me to get out touring and try some steeper pitches.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboardin
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 09, 2016, 03:19:04 pm
Cheers Chris, sounds like you were doing great on the skis by that reckoning. I'm tempted to hire some again next week to see how I get on.

I use snow forecast quite a bit but tend to find they over estimate totals so often use in conjunction with the chamonix meteo written forecast if in that part of the Alps which at least also has some human input as opposed to just modelled data.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2016, 03:34:51 pm
I started out skiing (pre snowboards!) and even when i started snowboarding more than skiing (when I worked in the US) I still kept the skiing up as I think it's a lot easier for touring, and this year committed to upgrading my touring kit (goodbye Beta Rides!) so keen to do a bit more up here if the weather allows.

http://www.myweather2.com/Ski-Resorts/France/Samoens.aspx?sday=0&eday=7

http://www.myweather2.com/Ski-Resorts/France/Samoens/snow-report.aspx

Is a pretty good source too.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 09, 2016, 05:29:41 pm
I still kept the skiing up as I think it's a lot easier for touring

I've never skied. but am tempted to learn - if we ever get a decent winter again - because it's so much the superior option for touring.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 09, 2016, 06:26:22 pm
Have considered it, and it has the plus that it wouldn't involve sacrificing a winter or two learning to ski. But it's a lot of faff, and seems less suitable for a lots alpine terrain. I'm not thinking about things like traverses above death drops - have no intention of doing those anyway - but more that lots of alpine tours involve long approaches/exits on forest roads with extensive bits of flat or uphill where rebuilding back into skinning mode would be a huge pita.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 09, 2016, 07:07:36 pm
Have considered it, and it has the plus that it wouldn't involve sacrificing a winter or two learning to ski. But it's a lot of faff, and seems less suitable for a lots alpine terrain. I'm not thinking about things like traverses above death drops - have no intention of doing those anyway - but more that lots of alpine tours involve long approaches/exits on forest roads with extensive bits of flat or uphill where rebuilding back into skinning mode would be a huge pita.
The transition becomes very easy - I've never been any slower than friends on skis.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 09, 2016, 08:27:56 pm
I's not so much the one transition per day I'm concerned about, as about chunks of flattish/undulating terrain where I'd either have to transition again or get off and walk, making a combined day out with skiers impractical & frustrating for all concerned.

For example, I talked to a mountain guide who organises and leads a "Tyrol Haute Route" trip. He said (a) I'm not good enough anyway - I value honesty in a guide - but also (b) parts of it, notably the Valsertal between Hintertux and Brenner, are basically not feasible on a board. And he's a good snowboarder.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 09, 2016, 08:35:29 pm
It won't take you two seasons to learn to ski. If you can get 5-6 weekends and can already board, you'll be ready to start harder stuff.


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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 09, 2016, 11:07:04 pm
I was pleasantly surprised as how easy it was to pick it up. After 4 or 5 hours I was getting around on blues and a few reds so a more concerted effort should translate to reasonably competent skiing. Good skill to have at your disposal I reckon hence why I've started up and might even help if I ever get round to buying a split board.


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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 10, 2016, 09:28:05 am
By carefully avoiding running most of my life I seem to be entering old age with reasonably robust knees/ hips/ etc. I have no interest in risking that with a sport where your legs regularly head off unpredictably in independent directions.

Valid point, will have a read of the article.

I am middle aged, have damaged knees and used to run a bit. But I hurt my right knee in a climbing accident, and my left through yoga - trying to hard too soon to get into lotus when my hips were too tight.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2016, 06:19:49 pm
I still kept the skiing up as I think it's a lot easier for touring

I've never skied. but am tempted to learn - if we ever get a decent winter again - because it's so much the superior option for touring.

No! Keep the faith - get a splitboard.

Hmm, I've already done the shopping, upgraded boots and skis in the last two years!

I think another key factor is that  think for the foreseeable future (probably from next year, with kids now 3.5 & 6) we will be doing a lot more skiing with the kids, and pootling around with them and trying to teach them a bit on a pair of skis is a lot easier than in a board, and i would be reluctant to have to take two sets of kit away on any holiday. And there are days when the pistes are hard and icy when a snowboard really sucks, but you can have fun on a pair of skis.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 14, 2016, 11:06:57 pm
Don't they do a summer terrain park camp up on the glacier too?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2016, 01:17:36 pm
Fly first thing on Saturday morning though having to fly to Paris and drive (don't ask). Will be in Samoens from Saturday night for a week though so hope your prediction of endless snow is true! How did you find getting back on skis?

How was your week?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on March 03, 2016, 06:11:05 pm
Fly first thing on Saturday morning though having to fly to Paris and drive (don't ask). Will be in Samoens from Saturday night for a week though so hope your prediction of endless snow is true! How did you find getting back on skis?

How was your week?
good week thanks. Had plenty of fresh snow to play in during the week so spent a fair bit of time in the trees towards Morillon and Les Carroz. Because it was half term in the UK and French holidays too some of the lift queues and crowds on the piste were pretty manic though, probably as bad as can remember. And Samoens 1600 is a bit of a bottleneck as everyone is trying to get up to Tête de Saix.

As a result we never made it as far as the Flaine bowl as the OH wasn't keen on skiing all day, and we also had young kids in tow who had afternoon lessons to get to.

Enjoyed getting on skis myself most days as well so good to mix up disciplines.

Final thing, my concern about flying to Paris and driving down in a hire car was largely unfounded. Traffic was fine, took around six hours but just stuck it in cruise control most of the way and pointed it in the right direction. Ended up saving a fortune compared to flights to Geneva and bonus was I got to spend the Saturday afternoon and Sunday in Paris with my brother before flying home. Even drove through Font on the way back so could have theoretically had an afternoon session there! One for next time. 

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 27, 2016, 12:14:11 pm
http://www.winterhighland.info/general/

Not over yet! Might make last turns of the year this weekend, be good to ski in May!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 03, 2017, 04:26:18 pm
Anyone got any done this season? Apart from our Cannuck residents.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 03, 2017, 05:17:57 pm
Snow's actually been good here for the last couple of weeks but I only got out once, for a quick evening headtorch tour on Monday (a mate's birthday)

Thawing hard now though.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 03, 2017, 08:50:09 pm
I've had a couple of good sessions at Castleford indoor slope (yeah yeah, I know..)

managed to iron out the problems of getting a decent carve without much flex in the back ankle - the answer was Craig Kelly style angles of +6 to +9 on the back and +21 to +24 on the front

pretty sure I'm never going to land a jump unless it's on something very steep and deep, so I'm not missing out on anything

If anyone else is thinking of going indoors or on traditional British warm snow - zardoz notwax is your friend - I used to carry swix fluro paste with me back in the day and have not done a direct comparison of the new swix stuff with zardoz, but I am very impressed with zardoz on the indoor stuff - it's like getting a few degrees of extra angle on the slope (very important when you don't have much slope to play on) - zardoz is cheap and easy enough for me not to mind using it on hire gear for a short session

pretty pleased to find that my ankle can cope with 3 hours of queueless riding without too much pain the next day
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 04, 2017, 12:27:34 pm
After a 3 year snowboarding hiatus (and being on the verge of selling my almost-unused Deeluxe boots) I decided to rent a few different boards on our recent Alps trip and give it another go.

I had 1 day on piste at Champoluc which was great fun on a Burton Custom. Then 2 days with some actual fresh snow down in the wee resort of Mondolé in Piemont, Italy. (we'd been climbing at Finale but a big dump came in).

On the first day I had a Head 163 mid-wide with full rocker - great fun in the pow, easy to turn but doable on piste when zooming back to the lifts.

https://youtu.be/Qqfqe3Bg9kI

The second day we got some bluebird and I was on a Burton Cruzer 159 Wide. Plenty of float, fun in the pow and jibbing about on the edges of the piste but I'd like something a little stiffer and with a wee bit of camber somewhere for more stability when charging/piste.

Some turns from the second day: https://youtu.be/t6xVcBI62e0

Considering I'd totally lost the love (which I now realise was mainly down to having and overly stiff, very cambered, too short and narrow board for years) I'm now keeping an eye out for a good deal on a new board as mine has fallen to pieces.

Snowboard design has come on so far in the 10 years since I last bought a board it's a bit of a minefield!

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 04, 2017, 10:32:25 pm

Snowboard design has come on so far in the 10 years since I last bought a board it's a bit of a minefield!

exactly

I learned to ride on a Simms Blade 1710 and anything with a bit of sidecut has seemed like cheating since then

I rode a Nidecker Concept for a while (35:45 canted) and intend to hire a hard setup next time I have the luxury of time and groomed pistes (not any time soon) - I still have vivid dreams about what it was like to feel like a motorbike on rails - that thing where you control your speed by heading uphill after every turn
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 04, 2017, 11:22:24 pm
Reckon you'll get the ankle in a hard boot any time soon? I've never tried and old school carving board. Gettin' low!

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 05, 2017, 08:43:21 am
I had pretty skinny ankles to start with - main issue will be how much it swells during the session - a decent hire shop will let me swap gear about (when I finally get a trip sorted)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 05, 2017, 08:52:38 am
this is what I'm thinking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhShRKlz5lQ
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 05, 2017, 03:14:58 pm
At Geneva airport after four days snowboarding at Saint Gervais les Bains. Really nice little town with lots of nice easy terrain to cruise around on and the bonus of Les Contamines just up the road which is a really good little ski area with some excellent looking terrain. Just a shame the base depth is still so sketchy for proper off piste as didn't venture too much off the sides without wanting to risk core shots to the board. Would definitely go back there for longer as only spent one day there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 05, 2017, 03:50:28 pm
Had a couple of nice days around Contamines/St Gervais etc. - although, even when it's deep it can be a bit flat and you get stuck a lot! Apparently the Chamonix season pass now includes those ski resorts (this started the year after we left grrr...)

Courmayeur has a lot of nice off-piste tree stuff, as does La Clusaz. Champoluc/Gressoney seems a bit off the radar for UK holiday makers. It seemed like it would have loads of accessible fun off-piste (it hadn't snowed for 6 weeks when we were there...) and lots of Italian village charm (if that's your kind of thing) and quiet - a nice contrast to the Chamonix powder madness...



Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 05, 2017, 05:55:14 pm
Anyone got any done this season? Apart from our Cannuck residents.

Discrimination!

I for one would like to read a report from Andy R on his recent cat ski trip ...

Nothing to report other than bottomless pow, endless face-shots, occasional mandatory air and a heavily depleted bank account... strongly recommend  :punk:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 06, 2017, 09:41:35 am
Had a couple of nice days around Contamines/St Gervais etc. - although, even when it's deep it can be a bit flat and you get stuck a lot! Apparently the Chamonix season pass now includes those ski resorts (this started the year after we left grrr...)

Courmayeur has a lot of nice off-piste tree stuff, as does La Clusaz. Champoluc/Gressoney seems a bit off the radar for UK holiday makers. It seemed like it would have loads of accessible fun off-piste (it hadn't snowed for 6 weeks when we were there...) and lots of Italian village charm (if that's your kind of thing) and quiet - a nice contrast to the Chamonix powder madness...
I liked Les Contamines a lot, nice little ski area which is steeper than Saint Gervais so none of the flat spots that you get there. Lift system is generally nicely set out too with not many pinch points and mostly fast chairs or cabins too. Oh, and really friendly lifties, like nothing I've experienced in Europe before!

Courmayeur, only done a few days there but was really impressed with the amount of in bounds off piste terrain available, it reminded me a lot of a small US or Candian ski hill (kind of like Fernie/Red/Whitewater), I definitely need to go back there in a good snow year. I'm kind of done with Chamonix at the moment too, love the town and the size of some of the boarding available, but it just gets so rammed on powder days and its like a feeding frenzy at Grand Montets when its good it can be a bit off putting (either that or I am just getting too old for that kind of thing now).

Anyway, back to Avoriaz in a month so will have to keep fingers crossed that the recent improvement in snowfall this last 48 hours continues.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 06, 2017, 10:42:48 am
Ok wise snowboarding folks - I've been reading a fair few snowboard reviews and been trying to work out what size of board I need. I'm hoping to narrow down to 3 or 4 potential boards and then keep an eye out for a deal at some point (I'm in no rush).

I'm very much an "all rounder" with more of a focus on fresh snow. I don't wan't an out-and-out stiff charging freeride beast of a board as that's what my old board was and that's part of the reason I fell out with snowboarding. Basically - if I want to charge through chop, ride steep lines, go flat out in powder - I'll be on the skis!  Snowboarding for me is now much more about tight tree lines, hitting little hits and bumps, bit of riding switch, hitting little side hits off the piste etc. So I think* I wan't something not too cambered with plenty of tip and/or/tail rocker.

I found the burton custom to be pretty decent on piste (held an edge well, pretty stable) but had no chance to test it off piste.

I found a 163 Head mid-wide full rocker to be great on the storm day (going slow in trees) as it initiated powder turns well and gave a stable base to land off small drops etc. Piste was less fun.

The last day was on a Burton Cruzer 157 which I thought might be too small, but turned out  to have more float than expected, although I did have one or two comical nosedives when putting too much faith in its float...

I'm now really confused on length!  I'm 76kg which usually puts me in the 157-161cm range for most manufacturers, but I almost always ride with a pack on (~3kg) - should this be added to my weight? Most snowboarders don't ride with packs...so I'm assuming the recommended weights are not including this?

This board seems like it might work: http://www.slashsnow.com/boards/view/nahual but I have the 157/161 dilemma!

Any other suggestions/thoughts?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 06, 2017, 10:48:22 am
Although, a second review of that board makes it sound too stiff...  and compares it favourably to a ... wait for it ... Ride Timeless (my board, which I don't get on with!)

Head "The Day" also seemed about right.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 06, 2017, 11:55:35 am
I'm a big fan of Burton Custom's; they do almost everything well enough without being spectacular at one thing. I've owned numerous versions of one since 1999 and still really like them; I did a full season in Fernie on one and never wanted one with more float in pow; I was on a 160 then and about 72kgs. I also currently have a Nug 148 (messing about on groomers) and a Sherlock 161 (for powder days) and am around 78kgs at the moment. I'd probably look at around a 156 to 158 Custom and go from there depending if you want it in flying v format or not...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2017, 12:53:43 pm

Nothing to report other than bottomless pow, endless face-shots, occasional mandatory air and a heavily depleted bank account... strongly recommend  :punk:

Did you go out with Powder Mountain? Our day out with them was one of the best days on snow I ever had. Only downside was doing it in the middle of our second week, the last few days on resort seemed utterly mundane.

I've had a couple of days at Les Contamines and it's a great resort. My partner did 3 seasons as a chalet maid there, so having a guide who knew it intimately helped.

I had a carving board I was given when I worked in the US. In the right conditions (mid morning groom the day after a fresh snowfall) it is unbelievably good fun, and you can get away with carving as low as you dare, but as soon as it gets chopped up and lumpy or at all icy you can put it away.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 06, 2017, 05:08:18 pm
I'm a big fan of Burton Custom's; they do almost everything well enough without being spectacular at one thing. I've owned numerous versions of one since 1999 and still really like them; I did a full season in Fernie on one and never wanted one with more float in pow; I was on a 160 then and about 72kgs. I also currently have a Nug 148 (messing about on groomers) and a Sherlock 161 (for powder days) and am around 78kgs at the moment. I'd probably look at around a 156 to 158 Custom and go from there depending if you want it in flying v format or not...
Still rocking my Salomon Definition 156 and Dialogue boots from more than a decade ago. Not sure if this reflects how decent they were to start with or how little I get out on them each year.  :'(

Custom X has been my dream board for ages and one of these days I'm gonna drop +£1k on a new Custom X and suitable bindings and boots.  8)

Hard to justify when the week is mainly chaperoning the kiddies, but one of these days...

Heading back to Cauterets/NPY for half term, which is a bit limited resort, but last time I looked it had more  snow than most of the Alps, so it should be ok.  :dance1:

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Sasquatch on February 06, 2017, 05:57:29 pm
I've got a custom x 159W (I'm 5'10" and about 180lbs) and I love it.  As said before, it does about everything well, but nothing spectacular.  As a single board, it's fantastic because I can ride anything and its fun.  Generally on big powder days I end up backcountry though, so I'm mainly looking at funky mountain stuff.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 06, 2017, 06:50:12 pm

Nothing to report other than bottomless pow, endless face-shots, occasional mandatory air and a heavily depleted bank account... strongly recommend  :punk:

Did you go out with Powder Mountain? Our day out with them was one of the best days on snow I ever had. Only downside was doing it in the middle of our second week, the last few days on resort seemed utterly mundane.



Big Red Cats - terrain is typical Monashees - all treeline and below, but most runs nicely gladed, so still room to look ahead (that said, I did bury myself in one tree well...). Just need to save up for heli-skiing now...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2017, 08:33:59 pm
I know it's a bucket list thing, but everyone on our cat trip said it's much better than heli; more laid back, more vert for your money, etc.

I'm still on my Burton Baron mid wide 167, about a decade old too. Amazing to ride, stiff and fast, but still brilliant to carve on piste, with great edge holding, and such fun in powder. Makes moguls a bit challenging, and the swing weight makes getting any rotation on jumps a challenge/ impossible but I'm probably past doing much in the park these days anyway.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 08, 2017, 09:32:08 pm
I'd have liked more interview in it, but this is interesting

https://vimeo.com/186450193
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 08, 2017, 10:55:14 pm
It's official - on the cusp of ditching snowboarding forever I've clawed myself back from the precipice and invested in at least 10 more years of snowboarding fun  :2thumbsup:

(http://www.zuzupopo.com/xe/files/attach/images/10002/252/180/4f3b1d8a0beb291d60cf7c1f38de288f.png)
Slash Brainstorm 160 '17.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 09, 2017, 06:15:55 am
Me too. Spent the money I was planning to spend on skiing lessons this winter on a new board instead.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Catcheemonkey on February 09, 2017, 07:54:22 am
Ha ha! This is a common theme. I too have again sacked off learning to Ski in favour of new snowboard kit!


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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2017, 08:27:33 am
Nice minimalist topsheet graphics Fultonius.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 09, 2017, 09:33:02 am
The jury's still out on the base graphics, but I never see them anyway ;-)  (I'm not that fussed on looks, the reviews made it sound just what I need...we'll see!)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on February 09, 2017, 11:05:02 am
Ha ha! This is a common theme. I too have again sacked off learning to Ski in favour of new snowboard kit!
I feel a trip to ROHO (http://www.roho.co.uk/watersports/Mens-Packages.html) coming on, after all I am going twice this year (for the first time in years), (ok so 1.5 times and mainly with kids but I don't need much justification to get new kit.  :-[)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Catcheemonkey on February 09, 2017, 11:11:52 am
Do it. New kit justifies itself. Fact.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 09, 2017, 11:18:21 am
Ha ha! This is a common theme. I too have again sacked off learning to Ski in favour of new snowboard kit!
I feel a trip to ROHO (http://www.roho.co.uk/watersports/Mens-Packages.html) coming on, after all I am going twice this year (for the first time in years), (ok so 1.5 times and mainly with kids but I don't need much justification to get new kit.  :-[)

The £ is tanking so you might as well have "stuff" ;-)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2017, 12:38:06 pm
Regarding boots...

I have a pair of Burton Freestyle (midrange) boots I bought early in my first season in the US (so early 2003), these boots have not clocked up about 250 days of use (not all of riding, some wear while working lifts, but some riding every day) and I've so far had to replace the laces. They are dead comfy, but still give me all the support I need.

I keep thinking I need a new pair, but they will most like be a) uncomfortable and need bedding b) expensive and c) shit quality and fall to bits too quickly.

So carry on or shop?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 09, 2017, 12:51:19 pm
If they still give you support, then stick with em!  I got new boots a couple of seasons ago - Deeluxe Viscous. Very comfy straight out the box, but way too stiff initially for me. Now that they're bedded in they're about right - so they should last well. I did notice part of the sole coming away at the heel and I've only had maybe 15 days on them, which is not ideal... Luckily I'm handy with contact adhesive!

I'm sure others on here will have more/newer/better info.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2017, 02:33:32 pm
That should read "now clocked up" not "not clocked up" which changed the context somewhat. I think well made bindings have has as much to do with longevity of the boots as anything else.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: AndyR on February 09, 2017, 05:52:46 pm
In this part of the world we are lucky to be able to stroke our egos by ordering custom boards direct from the factory shop at Prior (https://www.priorsnow.com/). Son #1 is getting this thing as a slightly late 17th birthday present. Their Shotgun model with a "hybrid" camber, whatever that means. Inevitably deciding on the top sheet seemed to occupy most of his time before the board was ordered. No wolf options, sadly.

(https://s29.postimg.org/65cvf2dx3/Screen_Shot_2017_01_25_at_21_03_30.png)

Result - nice looking board! Think I might treat myself to a new splitboard soon...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on February 09, 2017, 06:02:18 pm
My son's choice of boards is largely determined by "graphics most likely to be disliked by Mum"
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2017, 07:27:41 am
I just dug out an interesting stick from my attic

a 1998 Burton Supermodel 181 with leather Ride Team bindings

I got given it for a heli trip to Nepal that ended up not happening when the king sacked his government or something


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 10, 2017, 11:12:52 am
I just dug out an interesting stick from my attic

a 1998 Burton Supermodel 181 with leather Ride Team bindings

I got given it for a heli trip to Nepal that ended up not happening when the king sacked his government or something

Bizarrely I ended up renting a board in Mondolé from a Dino, who runs the snowboard museum:  https://www.facebook.com/Museo-Italiano-dello-Snowboard-562178050472974/

He'd probably love your board!

Is it like trying to turn a tanker? My skis are 185!!!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 10, 2017, 11:17:30 am
A bit more length, sir?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yo-k_LKn_Y
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 12, 2017, 04:09:21 pm
I just dug out an interesting stick from my attic

a 1998 Burton Supermodel 181 with leather Ride Team bindings

I got given it for a heli trip to Nepal that ended up not happening when the king sacked his government or something

Bizarrely I ended up renting a board in Mondolé from a Dino, who runs the snowboard museum:  https://www.facebook.com/Museo-Italiano-dello-Snowboard-562178050472974/

He'd probably love your board!

Is it like trying to turn a tanker? My skis are 185!!!

going fast, floating high in powder, this was never an issue

I'd imagine that trying to spin it in the air would be interesting, but I never tried - it had a decent radius side cut

181 supermodel next to a 183 idiot

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4efYRcWAAAetH0.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 12, 2017, 04:20:24 pm
this is the model I started riding on (not my photo)
Sims Blade 1710

I bought mine as an ex-hire board in 1989 - the base was bullet proof - it wasn't until 1993 that I got a more modern board and proper snowboard boots instead of using those turquoise and silver Koflachs all the time

(http://retrosnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/sims-blade.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2017, 04:46:51 pm
My first board was a Craig Kelly Air with practically zero sidecut, and the boots were like baseball boots, no support at the back of the foot. I used to think I was just terrible at heel turns until I upgraded the boots.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 16, 2017, 09:44:35 am
After much frustrating internet searching I wonder if someone on here might have an idea.
For the first time I'm planning to travel with both skis and snowboard and I was thinking a suitable bag for carrying both would exist. Best I've found so far is a dakine concourse 200cm behemoth. It's designed for two lots of skis rather than a pair of skis and a snowboard. So it would mean a less than ideal baggage packing set up.
Anyone come across a bag old or new which fits the bill?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2017, 10:09:30 am
If you don't mind removing the bindings you can get a snowboard in with a set of skis in most bags.

I've got an enormous wheeled snow and rock one which has lasted me for years, looks a bit daft dragging it about with a big kink in it as skis are now 20 cm shorter than when i first bought it.

If you get a bigger one with enough space you can fit all your clothes and everything in it and just take one bag (saves on baggage charges).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 16, 2017, 10:26:53 am
I have a Dakine Fallline 190cm wheeled bag. I'd imagine you could get the 175? It'd fir a board and skis fine, decent quality, usually on sale somewhere, especially if you don't mind the "girls" version.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on February 16, 2017, 10:34:59 am
If you don't mind removing the bindings you can get a snowboard in with a set of skis in most bags.
This is what I was thinking I might have to do. No problem really just a faff.

I have a Dakine Fallline 190cm wheeled bag. I'd imagine you could get the 175? It'd fir a board and skis fine, decent quality, usually on sale somewhere, especially if you don't mind the "girls" version.
Yep I've just come across this bag. The 190cm will have to do as my skis are 178cm. Let's see if I can find one of them cheap girly versions....

Thanks chaps.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2017, 11:23:50 am
Anyone found any longer term forecast sites in any way reliable?

Still swithering about a Les Gets trip at the end of the month, but it's currently looking warm and snowless for the next week or so, and if it carries on I probably won't bother.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chris05 on February 16, 2017, 02:24:57 pm
Anyone found any longer term forecast sites in any way reliable?

Still swithering about a Les Gets trip at the end of the month, but it's currently looking warm and snowless for the next week or so, and if it carries on I probably won't bother.

You probably know this Chris but the problem is that the long term forecasts are all based on a particular model (as far as I know) and what we need is agreement across models and across model runs. This thread on snowheads has taught me quite a bit and has some good discussions of the models and outlook: http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=126003#3017511 There seems to be talk of a change in the weather towards the end of Feb but no idea quite what it will produce. I quite like the wepowder site for a an overview.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2017, 02:44:10 pm
Thanks. I had a read of wepowder last night, will check out the snowheads. There are a load of 14 day forecasts, none of which i have much faith in.

Given the forecast, this may be the first year I concede that I will get no skiing in Scotland done for the winter for a long time.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 16, 2017, 03:02:07 pm
If you don't mind removing the bindings you can get a snowboard in with a set of skis in most bags.
This is what I was thinking I might have to do. No problem really just a faff.

I have a Dakine Fallline 190cm wheeled bag. I'd imagine you could get the 175? It'd fir a board and skis fine, decent quality, usually on sale somewhere, especially if you don't mind the "girls" version.
Yep I've just come across this bag. The 190cm will have to do as my skis are 178cm. Let's see if I can find one of them cheap girly versions....

Thanks chaps.
You'll be fine with a good sized snowboard bag Plattsy, I've just used my Burton 181 wheeled case for a trip with two pairs of skis, one snowboard, bindings removed plus a pair of ski boots and two sets of poles too. All fitted with room to spare for things like thermals and goggles. I had to pack another pair of ski boots and snowboard boots in a hold-all but that was fine as was well within my weight limit.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 16, 2017, 11:11:46 pm
After much frustrating internet searching I wonder if someone on here might have an idea.
For the first time I'm planning to travel with both skis and snowboard and I was thinking a suitable bag for carrying both would exist. Best I've found so far is a dakine concourse 200cm behemoth. It's designed for two lots of skis rather than a pair of skis and a snowboard. So it would mean a less than ideal baggage packing set up.
Anyone come across a bag old or new which fits the bill?
Thanks in advance.

I've got a bag that fits a 181 board lengthways and 2 boards with bindings widthways - you're welcome to borrow it
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 22, 2017, 06:29:41 pm
So flying to Geneva a week today, flying back the next Monday. Anyone about, holler! skiing PdS and Grand Massif. Probably taking ski given the conditions, make a change
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 22, 2017, 06:53:00 pm
So flying to Geneva a week today, flying back the next Monday. Anyone about, holler! skiing PdS and Grand Massif. Probably taking ski given the conditions, make a change

Might also want to pack your bike:  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156052507574657&set=a.10156052504634657.1073741832.512239656&type=3&theater
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 22, 2017, 09:47:09 pm
Can't see link? If it the lower slopes of mont chery, then meh, never much good

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Les-Gets/6day/mid

Bit on the way to freshen slopes
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 22, 2017, 09:51:38 pm
Can't see link? If it the lower slopes of mont chery, then meh, never much good

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Les-Gets/6day/mid

Bit on the way to freshen slopes
Nah, just mates out riding in Chamonix, up to 1800m!

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 22, 2017, 11:01:29 pm
Enjoy, we're not heading out till Easter!

I realise I'm teaching you to suck eggs but that weak layer looks quite persistent so take care if you venture off piste.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 23, 2017, 06:56:33 am
Where you heading?

Yeah offpiste will be sketch, I'll just content myself with hovering up what fresh I can on sides of pistes and trees. Plus my brother is probably not going to make it (house buying / selling nightmares) so I will be without anyone reliable to head off with.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: bigtuboflard on February 23, 2017, 09:05:47 am
Have a good trip SA Chris, you should be fine if you head high enough, coverage in Avoriaz (where I'm headed in 2 weeks) looks fine and there are a few good sized storms lined up to push through in the next week too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 23, 2017, 09:08:30 am
Should we run a book on how much snow arrives compared to what snow-forecast currently predicts?  If its correct, you're in for a good time 60cm forecast for next Tuesday!!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 23, 2017, 09:27:48 am
Where you heading?

Yeah offpiste will be sketch, I'll just content myself with hovering up what fresh I can on sides of pistes and trees. Plus my brother is probably not going to make it (house buying / selling nightmares) so I will be without anyone reliable to head off with.

I'm of to Val d'Isere en famille. First time the eldest will be able to ski so hoping she likes it as she's going to subjected to it every year for the rest of her life.......
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 23, 2017, 09:36:21 am
Good and high! You been to any snowdomes or dryslopes with her? We did dryslope lessons for a while with Kyle and he was doing OK, but it was a bit boring on the beginners one and he couldn't cope with the drag lift on the larger one (too short and light) so we sacked them off. Were hoping to get out locally once or twice with the kids locally this winter, but the planets have not aligned for it to happen. It might still though/ Possibly.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 23, 2017, 09:58:24 am
Good and high! You been to any snowdomes or dryslopes with her? We did dryslope lessons for a while with Kyle and he was doing OK, but it was a bit boring on the beginners one and he couldn't cope with the drag lift on the larger one (too short and light) so we sacked them off. Were hoping to get out locally once or twice with the kids locally this winter, but the planets have not aligned for it to happen. It might still though/ Possibly.

I considered a dome as there is one 10 minutes from my house but decided against it. We're going with some of my wife's family and one of the nephews is exactly the same age as my eldest and they get on really well so we decided that if they both learn together in the same ski school class that's the best chance we have of her enjoying it. With a one year old in tow as well, we are definitely classing it as a family holiday with some skiing, not a skiing holiday.

The lads long weekend touring has been postponed to next year but plans are already a foot......
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 23, 2017, 10:05:30 am
Sounds good.

This year is looking to be a write off for Scotland anyway, first year I've struck out totally on local snow sports for about 8 years.

Tis only late Feb though, things may just still happen.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 08, 2017, 12:22:59 pm
6 days mixed weather in Alps.

D1 – Half Day - Mont Chery - Windy on ridges, but OK below skis.
D2 – Praz De Lys - Horrible. Foot of soggy wet snow overnight, followed by rain / sleet at village level and skiing in cloud most of the day. Cleared about 4pm
D3 – hired a guide, did the back side of Haute Forts at Avoriaz twice on snowboard, brilliant. If you fancy a day guiding there get in touch with http://marcoskiguide.com/fr/
D4- skied over to Avoriaz from Les Gets, high winds closing top lifts but good at Coupe du Monde Area, so did some laps there before returning to Morzine / Les Gets weather came in, pissing rain in village, snow from about halfway up.
D5 – great powder morning on Mont Chery, then OK afternoon, started snowing in evening
D6 – great powder morning in Les Gets, mostly in bowl off back of Grains d’Or, Chavannes  and Turche lifts, before had to head down for flight home.

I now find myself at a crossroads, loved skiing pretty much the whole week, not sure I will take snowboard again, persevered and feel I am coming to grips with powder skiing instead of defaulting to snowboard, and now absolutely love it. Be nice to get a day or two in in Scotland before end of season, but looks like I may have missed the (tiny) window.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 08, 2017, 08:53:00 pm
I found that as I got better at skiing powder I had to go faster, bigger, steeper to keep it fresh. On the snowboard I can jib around more, so can have more fun at lower pace, get more fun per lap and not have to wait so long for the other half (or have to be waited in, at times, when I'm buried head first!).

You might have a lul just now, but I bet you'll be back on the board at some point!

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 08, 2017, 08:54:02 pm
P. S. Glad you got a good trip with some pow, that's a bonus this season! (although, I'm seeing videos of people tits deep, so it must have finally arrived)

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 09, 2017, 08:35:53 am
Yeah, got so lucky with conditions. I think Tuesday would have been one of the days of the season though!

Given that as of next year most ski trips will be with kids, I will probably be taking skis, as travelling around the mountain with kids when you are on a snowboard looks to be a right PiTA.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on March 10, 2017, 07:12:43 am
From personal experience, I would not rule out the possibility that kids want to board. Most of son #2's friends ski (as far as I can judge: because their 30-something parents are all backcountry snobs, who think boards are inefficient, and won't allow any choice) so I encouraged him to learn skiing for his first three seasons after we moved to Canada. But he has gravitated voluntarily to snowboarding and is so much more psyched. Either he is hopelessly-retro or perhaps he is in the vanguard of the backlash against the backlash?

My son is back on skis this year, understandably said he felt too stressed on a board after he had a major traumatic accident - two simultaneous broken wrists, most inconvenient - on a board last winter.

I was planning to learn to ski this year too: backcountry efficiency, as you say. But then my wife couldn't make it to Ötztal for the whole week, which would have meant leaving the lad alone some mornings while I was in baby ski school. That was obviously a non-starter, so I'm still on one plank for the time being. Spent the ski school money on a new board. And still having a great time with it I must say.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 10, 2017, 08:44:37 am
From personal experience, I would not rule out the possibility that kids want to board. Most of son #2's friends ski (as far as I can judge: because their 30-something parents are all backcountry snobs, who think boards are inefficient, and won't allow any choice) so I encouraged him to learn skiing for his first three seasons after we moved to Canada. But he has gravitated voluntarily to snowboarding and is so much more psyched.

At age 5 & 8 we will definitely be getting them on skis to start. Should they wish to snowboard later it's up to them, but what i meant is from a point of view of skiing with young kids, being on skis is infinitely more preferable wrt picking them up getting on and off lifts, dealing with flats, having to carry them for a bit, etc.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 23, 2017, 08:24:33 am
Looks great.

Meanwhile in Scotland

http://www.winterhighland.info/cams/cairngorm-mountain/
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on April 10, 2017, 11:40:12 am
Is snowboarding still popular with the youth in Canada?

Having just come back from a week in Val d'Isere, it struck me how few snowboarders there were and how they all seem to be thirty odd plus.

Admittedly Val probably isn't the cutting edge of cool as it does seem to be populated by either hooray henrys or les bronzés qui font du ski but baring in mind there are plenty of rich kids following the latest fad, none of them seemed to think that fad was snowboarding?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on April 10, 2017, 12:54:46 pm
Is snowboarding still popular with the youth in Canada?

Having just come back from a week in Val d'Isere, it struck me how few snowboarders there were and how they all seem to be thirty odd plus.

Admittedly Val probably isn't the cutting edge of cool as it does seem to be populated by either hooray henrys or les bronzés qui font du ski but baring in mind there are plenty of rich kids following the latest fad, none of them seemed to think that fad was snowboarding?

Funny, we noticed that there appeared to be a resurgence of boarders when we were out in the Pyrenees recently.  :devangel:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on April 10, 2017, 01:50:04 pm
Having just come back from a week in Val d'Isere, it struck me how few snowboarders there were and how they all seem to be thirty odd plus.

Same in Les Arcs/Les Plagnes, I saw a lot fewer snowboarders and also less helmet cams / selfie sticks.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gingerninja on April 11, 2017, 09:41:03 am
i think the decline in snowboarding has more to do with the development of skis and the fact is got much cooler than it was in the late 90s. ive snowboarded for 25 years, skis were rubbish when i started and snowboarding was cool. i now look at skis and think theyre a much more versatile way of getting round the mountain and new fat skis even perform well in powder, tho still think a snowboard is better for the deep stuff. sort of wish i could ski now lol.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on April 11, 2017, 11:41:59 am
i think the decline in snowboarding has more to do with the development of skis and the fact is got much cooler than it was in the late 90s. ive snowboarded for 25 years, skis were rubbish when i started and snowboarding was cool. i now look at skis and think theyre a much more versatile way of getting round the mountain and new fat skis even perform well in powder, tho still think a snowboard is better for the deep stuff. sort of wish i could ski now lol.

I'm thinkign along much the same lines & will probably bite the bullet and learn to ski at some point.

I did a powder course a couple of years back with mountain guide in Zillertal who basically said exactly the same - he snowboarded for years & switched back because skis have become nearly as good as a snowboard in the deep stuff, and they're so much more practical in every other way.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on November 19, 2017, 07:28:12 am
I realise this is skiing not snowboarding but enjoyed this one from Salomon/Mike Douglas about getting older:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXKN6hWZ4s
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 19, 2017, 11:47:20 am

ooh, that brought back a lot of memories - I spent a lot of time boarding in Scotland from 1990 to 1992 - National Express had a £6 return anywhere in Britain deal for students, which meant I spent 2 days a week doing uni work on the bus, 2 days riding and 3 days attending lectures/tutorials. I had friends to stay with while I was there and you could get lift passes refunded by filling in for lunch breaks on the lifts. If the lifts shut due to bad weather, I just walked up the hills.

learning to ride the thin ribbons of snow between the rocks and the ice and how to recover from hitting both unexpectedly set me up well for when I returned to the alps

that footage of riding the snow next to fence was particularly familiar
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 19, 2017, 07:01:02 pm
interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9p8piIGhgw
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 21, 2017, 01:53:00 pm
Same issues as original step in designs (and flows for that matter) then.

First turns have been made in Scotland for the season (a few scratched out at Glencoe) and it's accumulating in the Northern Corries as we speak. Anyone got plans for turns up this way?

Also planning Les Gets area for long weekend end of January.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 25, 2017, 08:11:45 pm
I just dug out an interesting stick from my attic

a 1998 Burton Supermodel 181 with leather Ride Team bindings

I got given it for a heli trip to Nepal that ended up not happening when the king sacked his government or something

Bizarrely I ended up renting a board in Mondolé from a Dino, who runs the snowboard museum:  https://www.facebook.com/Museo-Italiano-dello-Snowboard-562178050472974/

He'd probably love your board!

Is it like trying to turn a tanker? My skis are 185!!!

going fast, floating high in powder, this was never an issue

I'd imagine that trying to spin it in the air would be interesting, but I never tried - it had a decent radius side cut

181 supermodel next to a 183 idiot

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4efYRcWAAAetH0.jpg)

anyone interested in buying this board?

much as I loved it in soft snow, my feet are too big and this board is standard width, so no use to me on hard pack or piste -  I am unlikely to be able to afford a heli trip in the next 10 years

would be great for anyone with feet below size 10

maybe a good option for a DIY split board? could be really good - old style solid Burton build, same surface area as a pair of touring skis for using skinning tracks

I don't want much for it - leather Ride Team bindings could be included
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on November 26, 2017, 07:35:27 pm
Looks enormous.

I'm still using the Burton step in bindings I bought with a student loan in the nineties. I've always loved them, suspect they didn't catch on more for fashion reasons than performance. Not sure if whether they'll have any better luck this time. If you ride with skiers I'd say they're a must.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 27, 2017, 12:45:15 pm
what is it, 181 midwide? Bit too big even for me, unless i unexpectedly put on a stone or two. I ride a stiff 168 mid wide and not sure i could cope with any more length (missus).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 30, 2017, 10:12:13 am
what is it, 181 midwide? Bit too big even for me, unless i unexpectedly put on a stone or two. I ride a stiff 168 mid wide and not sure i could cope with any more length (missus).

standard width - waist is something like 240 - 250mm at a guess

these were never very stiff boards - easy to carve at low speeds
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: highrepute on December 08, 2017, 01:18:17 pm
superb
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on December 08, 2017, 10:10:13 pm

 8)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 28, 2017, 07:11:34 pm
right

I haven't been on a snow holiday for 9 years or so

there's no way we can afford a whole family ski holiday in school holidays

however, Mrs St. Arfish has just offered me a week (or less) pass to go play in the snow without the rest of them

I would rather not go alone

anyone got any trips planned that would suit a large snowboarder who can cook?

preferably outside school hols

cheers
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 31, 2017, 05:47:51 am
I’m off to Les Gets 25-30 Jan with my brother, can message with details
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 03, 2018, 02:11:13 pm
cheers Chris - wasn't able to get that time off

However - the mighty Plattsy has agreed to come to Slovakia with me

staying in one of Propaganda Snowboards' chalets in Jasna

psyched

better get myself fit

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 05, 2018, 01:57:00 pm
http://www.henrysavalanchetalk.com/avalanche-danger-rating-5-northern-french-alps/

Anyone out there at the moment and in the next few weeks, be careful!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: ben on January 08, 2018, 04:05:52 pm
anyone have any experience of NW Austrian resorts, such as those near Kufstein or down towards Innsbruck ?

I'm in Munich w/work for a 3 day course mid-Feb and have wangled 3 days boarding with a mate afterwards.  Trying to work out the best and cheapest option.  Thought about Garmisch but a colleague says its a bit limited for 3 days skiing (any thoughts on that?).  Another option I looked at was Soll or even staying in Innsbruck itself as it looks well connected with free buses.

Ideally we wouldn't need a hire car, but could get one if needed; plus reasonably priced accomodation.

We've both boarded a fair bit in the past but not for a few years so somewhere with plenty of reds would be ideal

can I tag Munchener somehow ?!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on January 08, 2018, 04:15:29 pm
I went to Garmisch three or four times as a kid and remember it being fun. There's a good few lifts and hills to check out. I was a ski punter back then so no idea on difficulty etc.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on January 08, 2018, 04:45:24 pm
Garmisch is indeed rather limited - plus big thaw last week & this, so connies on the valley runs will be shit. You're better off heading to Austria. Innsbruck has its own resort reachable by suburban tram, plus you're within easy bus ride of Axamer Lizums or - as a last resort, Stubai Glacier if there's no snow anywhere else.

The Kufstein area is extensive but low down, & personally I don't find it that interesting compared to the higher mountain resorts.

If you're flexible on location Zillertal/Tuxertal is the best bet for size, variety and reliable snow conditions. You don't have to go too far to escape the Mayrhofen party scene if that isn't what you want.

10th to 17th Feb is Bavarian school hols though so wherever you choose get your accommodation booked sharpish.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: ben on January 08, 2018, 05:03:45 pm
many thanks for the top beta Muenchener.  We're completely flexible on location as long as its relatively close to Munich and can get there ok.  It's the following week, so 22-24th that we'll be riding.

I'll take a closer look at Zillertal area on your recommendation, I guess we'd need a car to get there though ?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 08, 2018, 05:47:19 pm
There will be loads of ways to get there - either public transport  - train / bus or private transfers.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on January 08, 2018, 09:02:05 pm
You can get the train from Munich to Zillertal - albeit complicatedly with multiple changes.

There are direct trains to Innsbruck.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on January 10, 2018, 08:32:17 am
Anybody on here got (and willing to lend me) Polvere Rosa the freeride guide to Monte Rosa? Looks like we are going here for Feb half term...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 15, 2018, 10:57:34 pm
Anyone know what the current situation is with car hire at Geneva Airport? There were some issues with hiring from Swiss side and driving in France but not sure if it was resolved..

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: ben on January 17, 2018, 04:56:45 pm
Innsbruck has its own resort reachable by suburban tram, plus you're within easy bus ride of Axamer Lizums or - as a last resort, Stubai Glacier if there's no snow anywhere else.

Thanks for the beta Muencher, have booked an airbnb apartmento in Innsbruck for 4 nights.  Guess we'll be best getting a hire car to make the most of the spots round there
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 05, 2018, 09:49:36 pm
the mighty Plattsy has agreed to come to Slovakia with me

staying in one of Propaganda Snowboards' chalets in Jasna


currently burning this into my memory

http://chaletjasna.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Jasna-Freeride-Zone-Guide.pdf

along with the contour map from

https://www.freemap.sk/?map=14/48.941022/19.598150&layers=T

the basic E-W ridge with gentle southern slopes and north facing corries in a Scottish style makes it nice and simple...

well psyched
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2018, 01:02:23 pm
what's the current knowledge on insurance?

main concern is medical stuff and off piste rescue

http://snowforecast.skicover.com quoted £35.99 for everything for a single week including pre-existing medical shizzle

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: sxrxg on February 06, 2018, 01:30:27 pm
For insurance I have previously used sportscoverdirect.com, have been very useful on the phone and very good with pre existing medical conditions. Also the office staff seem to have a good grasp of what the sports they cover involve such as bouldering or park skiing.

This year however I noticed that defaqto only give them a 3 star rating so have been looking at other providers such as the BMC and insure and go whose winter sports cover both get 5 star ratings. Not decided which provider to go with yet though so any thoughts from others would be welcome.

Finally have fun in Jasna. If the snow conditions are good it will be brilliant with the off piste being easily accessible with only a short walk along the ridge line required. We went in 2012 with only slushy spring snow about and it was still fun however not really in condition for dropping cliffs or straight-lining the chutes!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chris05 on February 06, 2018, 04:27:08 pm
Your trip looks great Lagers. For insurance be sure that it covers you off piste without a guide. Very few of the cheap ones do. The cheapest option that I have come across that does include it is the Austrian Alpine Club.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 07, 2018, 02:10:25 pm
Look at snowcard, you can tailor cover to suit what you want to do, plus drop it with voluntary excess. I compare each time I buy and usually end up with them.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: sxrxg on February 11, 2018, 11:21:53 am
For insurance I have decided to go with Insure and Go for my trip. Have actually ended up with an annual policy as they explicitly cover bouldering (upto 4m) with a crashpad as one of their standard sports so will mean i am covered for the summer and on UK weekend trips as well. (Climbing is not covered unless the additional sports pack is taken out for about £50 on an annual policy to cover all family members - cheaper if just the policy holder is covered).

They cover off piste with or without a guide provided that the area is not specifically closed by resort management. They also cover park skiing (with an increased £250 excess and no personal liability or accident cover) - this is still better than most though (BMC don't cover at all, some cover however when reading the policy jumps >1m are excluded...). All of this is easily confirmed in the policy wording as well unlike some wordings which are ambiguous or not in there even though they say they are covered on the website.

Finally they are 5* Defaqto rated and have a good Trustpilot rating. Obviously this may mean nothing and they could be terrible if you need to use them, initial contact during quotation stage has been very efficient though and all questions answered promptly with written confirmation.  Overall I can't see a better deal for a family of three (approx £120).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2018, 10:21:38 am
Thanks guys

as sxrxg, I have ended up with an annual family policy with Insure and Go (2 weeks in Font with the family later in the year as well as my boarding holiday)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2018, 10:35:11 am
leaving the rope, screws, harness and other assorted crevasse rescue shizzle in their box makes me feel like I've made the transition to leisure-boarder

thanks to Bigtuboflard, I will also be wearing a helmet

(still taking avalanche gear and a small axe)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 20, 2018, 10:53:43 am
Small axe for a big oak...

All good conditions in Scotland at the moment, high pressure in place right now, then more snow coming next week. get here...

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: chris05 on February 20, 2018, 11:31:02 am
Small axe for a big oak...

All good conditions in Scotland at the moment, high pressure in place right now, then more snow coming next week. get here...



Heading up to Glencoe this eve for two days, just got to get work out of the way  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2018, 11:31:39 am
other commitments getting in my way
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 20, 2018, 02:25:31 pm

Heading up to Glencoe this eve for two days, just got to get work out of the way  :bounce:

Enjoy. You got the Guidebook?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scottish-Offpiste-Skiing-Snowboarding-Glencoe/dp/0992606519

Taking day off tomorrow, probably heading for Glen Feshie for some touring.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: nai on February 20, 2018, 02:32:55 pm
Thanks guys

2 weeks in Font with the family later in the year

When you going? Thinking about taking the kids for a week in the summer holidays.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2018, 02:36:03 pm
Easter
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 10, 2018, 07:52:09 am
I managed 6 days sliding without injuring myself (and didn't injure Plattsy either)

Psyche was high enough for us not to need a rest day

I am amazed at how well my body has coped!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tomtom on March 10, 2018, 08:42:14 am
Waddage sir.

Bet you ache for a week! ;)

Btw, while you were away, Dolly artfully assumes the mantle of master rock hustler...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 12, 2018, 10:09:57 am
Score much fresh?

I managed post work boarding at Cairn o Mount on Friday night. It was shit, but it's the principle!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 12, 2018, 09:10:55 pm
Score much fresh?

we did have a few sprinkles of snow

due to the high winds, this drifted in a spectacular way - both on and off the piste

we found good off piste stuff every day with little effort - some of it was amazing, but we got very little media to show for it due to high winds and low cloud (this weather helped keep lift queues low or non-existent)

luckily Plattsy is a highly trained athlete, so he was able to keep up with me at times despite his youth and inexperience

I don't think I hustled or sandbagged him once

we had some of the best on piste riding I have ever come across - quite a bit of grin-stretching carving was cranked out

I'm keen to go back
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 12, 2018, 09:13:28 pm
the piste side barbecue grill was the main lunchtime attraction
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 12, 2018, 11:15:03 pm

we had some of the best on piste riding I have ever come across - quite a bit of grin-stretching carving was cranked out

I'm keen to go back

Intrigued I am. Big 50 next year so keen to go somewhere a bit different, and Revelstoke looks unlikely...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 12, 2018, 11:27:44 pm
this is what you need to see - blue and red on the off-piste guide do not mean the equivalent of pistes graded the same colour!

https://www.jasna.sk/fileadmin/sandbox2/Freeride_prirucka_2017_nahlad.pdf

then there is all the stuff below the scrub/tree line

we barely scratched the surface
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: deacon on March 13, 2018, 06:22:55 am
Got any more info on Jasna lagers? Starting to research for next year but it's always good to get first hand experience :) any good for beginners, wife and 4 year old have only had about 5 days on, and more importantly is it cheap lol.
We went to Kranjska-Gora a few weeks ago which was great, very cheap, great for beginners but limited for me, and all slopes were tree lined pistes with very very limited off-piste and a non existent board park.
The family are really keen to go back but I was hoping for something a little better. Defo couldn't afford a typical French resort though. Did I mention it needs to be cheap?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 13, 2018, 09:26:34 pm
Psyched outta my face!!  Off to Kuhtai in Austria on Saturday (friend's bro lives there) and we'll hopefully get up to Solden for a few days. Snow-Spray.com says "metric fucktons of new snow" so we might get a wee top up. Gonna bee chilly though, with the beast from the east's wee brother making a visit.

First trip in a long time where I'm only taking a snowboard!!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 14, 2018, 10:11:48 am
Looks like a pretty significant dump, and cold. Enjoy. Jealous.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 15, 2018, 09:44:48 am
Got any more info on Jasna lagers? Starting to research for next year but it's always good to get first hand experience :) any good for beginners, wife and 4 year old have only had about 5 days on, and more importantly is it cheap lol.
We went to Kranjska-Gora a few weeks ago which was great, very cheap, great for beginners but limited for me, and all slopes were tree lined pistes with very very limited off-piste and a non existent board park.
The family are really keen to go back but I was hoping for something a little better. Defo couldn't afford a typical French resort though. Did I mention it needs to be cheap?

I was looking at it with a similar eye

(all referring to the piste map at the end of the pdf freeride guie I linked above)

there are no green runs (apart from the very short runs in the "Maxiland" beginners areas at Biela Put and Lucky )

best beginner run is blue 13 at Biela Put - served by a decent chair lift B3, but the exit ramp is pretty steep compared to the piste - the lift operators did a good job of slowing it right down for little kids/old people to get off - run is wide and even

blue 10 is much longer with slightly steeper sections and is served by a very nice bubble/cabin lift, so no issues for little kids getting off

blues 5 and 14 are also good long runs served by chair lifts B8 and B1 - easier to exit than B3, but again with slightly steeper sections (not red steep by any means)

my main concern would be that at Easter the snow cover low down might not be sufficient for the easier blue runs since they finish pretty low down - at Feb half term, I would be concerned about it being very cold for little kids. They have loads of snow making kit on the mountain, so I will be watching the web cams over the easter hols to see how they look after the easy runs

all the above are on the main North/Jasna side of the mountain and are great for carving on a board - the blues on the south side are narrower tracks - 34c/b is served by the main cable car and has amazing views. I didn't go on 34a, but that is also served by a new cable car

the drag lifts all seem to be out of use due to the great chair/cabin lifts

all the food places seemed to serve kid friendly food (breaded chicken and chips etc.)

loads of Slovakian kids on the hill

I recommend staying with Propaganda Snowboards  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 15, 2018, 09:49:21 am
the Biela Put webcam gives you a good view of the easiest runs

https://www.onthesnow.co.uk/low-tatras-north/jasna-nizke-tatry-chopok-sever/webcams.html?id=2871
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: deacon on March 15, 2018, 06:24:58 pm
Cheers for the advice, it's really appreciated. Tbh the little 'un (4 year old) smashed it with skiing including nailing fast button lifts. It's more the wife I'm concerned about lol, she could only relax on big quiet slopes.

What was the resort like? Friendly/snobby/party-knobs?

Did it cost a fortune?

Getting excited for another trip already and it's a year away  ::)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 15, 2018, 07:00:58 pm
Looks like a pretty significant dump, and cold. Enjoy. Jealous.

The inevitable downgrade has come, but still should get a wee top up. Hope the sun pokes through at least once....looking gloomy!

Anyone know of any good tree skiing in the Oetztal valley?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 15, 2018, 09:13:49 pm
Cheers for the advice, it's really appreciated. Tbh the little 'un (4 year old) smashed it with skiing including nailing fast button lifts. It's more the wife I'm concerned about lol, she could only relax on big quiet slopes.

What was the resort like? Friendly/snobby/party-knobs?

Did it cost a fortune?

Getting excited for another trip already and it's a year away  ::)

I found it pretty friendly  - nobody doing unsafe stuff near beginners/kids - plenty of families on the slopes

plenty of folk using a hip flask on the chair lifts, but didn't see any major pissheads on the slopes that I remember

we ate mainly at the piste-side barbecue at Zahradky - 6 to 8 Euros for a good meal - kids meals were less

definite split between expensive bars and cheaper places piste side - 2 Euros for 500ml beer at cheap place (Espresso Bar), 2.40 for 250ml at expensive place (Crystal Bar) and they don't do large beers

good hot chocolate between 2 and 3.30 Euros

we cooked/barbecued at the chalet every night - shopped at Tesco or the local Coop - UK prices, maybe less

accom was £209 pp for B&B for the week http://chaletjasna.co.uk/chalet-1/

flights were £50 each way plus sports equipment and legroom charge with WizzAir

adult ski pass for 6 days was 170 Euros - booked here http://www.jasnaskipass.com/

we didn't go into the big town, but fellow chalet guests seemed to enjoy the water park and the hot springs and Route 66 bar

if you stayed at http://chaletjasna.co.uk/chalet-3/ you could pop home for lunch - the staff would sort out lifts to and from the supermarket
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on March 15, 2018, 10:13:42 pm
Anyone know of any good tree skiing in the Oetztal valley?


Can't think of any offhand, and I've been there the last few winters. In general the sides of the main valley below the treeline are really steep. There are a few tiny bits of off-piste with trees at the top of Kühtai, either side of the stream coming down from the big dam, but that's about it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on March 16, 2018, 08:59:51 am
Cheers for the advice, it's really appreciated. Tbh the little 'un (4 year old) smashed it with skiing including nailing fast button lifts. It's more the wife I'm concerned about lol, she could only relax on big quiet slopes.

What was the resort like? Friendly/snobby/party-knobs?

Did it cost a fortune?

Getting excited for another trip already and it's a year away  ::)
Can't add much to what Lagers said. Only that I ate out one night at a locals bar/restaurant.
Soup
Pork steak with white beans and spicy sauce (aka spicy baked beans  :lol: )
Potato pancakes
Large salad
Pint
Water

€18.20

This was a cheap place and I really enjoyed the food and the chuckle of being served spicy baked beans.

Lagers and I also had lunch on the last day in a nice looking locals restaurant. Big rack of ribs €9.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 16, 2018, 04:55:37 pm
Anyone know of any good tree skiing in the Oetztal valley?


Can't think of any offhand, and I've been there the last few winters. In general the sides of the main valley below the treeline are really steep. There are a few tiny bits of off-piste with trees at the top of Kühtai, either side of the stream coming down from the big dam, but that's about it.

Sounds ideal  :great:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 16, 2018, 07:48:43 pm
Lagers and I also had lunch on the last day in a nice looking locals restaurant. Big rack of ribs €9.

I couldn't finish mine - it was 3 portions of what a pub normally serves as a rack of ribs in UK

if you like eating pig, Slovakia will make you happy
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 17, 2018, 05:45:22 pm
we didn't get much video/photos done due to weather, but I think the sub 10 second video genre could do with a boost

https://vimeo.com/260549682

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: deacon on March 18, 2018, 06:36:33 am
 :great:2 cheers for the advice, sounds well cool out there. And yes pig is my favourite '5 a day' so should enjoy it out there :)
I'll see what the wife (boss) thinks then start booking something. :)

Looking out the window I think I'll get a few turns in today too. Fresh pow in Graves Park!!!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: sxrxg on March 18, 2018, 12:18:13 pm
Cheers for the advice, it's really appreciated. Tbh the little 'un (4 year old) smashed it with skiing including nailing fast button lifts. It's more the wife I'm concerned about lol, she could only relax on big quiet slopes.

What was the resort like? Friendly/snobby/party-knobs?

Did it cost a fortune?

Getting excited for another trip already and it's a year away  ::)

I have just got back from a week with a 3 and bit year old on his first trip and an intermediate wife (as well as a skiing grandmother). We had a great time at Valfrejus, a small French resort close to the Italian border.

From what you are describing it sounds like it could be right up your street. The ski area isn't massive however it has good vertical drop, fast lifts and is high 1550m-2750m. Also with it being quite off the top lift you can get fresh tracks for a full day after a storm down some amazing terrain with chutes and cliffs (I would highly recommend a transceiver in this zone though as there were some large sluffalanches that I witnessed even though the zone was nominally open - note that I was happy riding this zone on my own as it is in full view of the chairlift/pistuers hut and someone would be with you quickly should the worst happen). Also should it be snowing heavily there is also some great tree skiing lower down.
Finally the top runs all lead back into the main bowl so good for having someone on childcare and doing a run each. For the intermediate there should be enough to go at with lots of quite well pisted blues including a lovely long, >10km, one all the way back to town that goes through some stunning alpine terrain well away from the lifts.

Now onto things for the family... We found it an amazingly friendly family orientated place especially for France. On the plateau at 2200m is a kids play area with a castle that has slides, a maze, a zip line, rubber doughnut roundabout, also entertainment on some days with music and free face painting, this was ace for playing about whilst others skied. Also on the plateau is the location of the kids kindergarten fenced off ski school area with chalet should the weather get bad, both ESI and ESF operate in resort (we put our boy in ESI however he hated it being the only English speaking child so we pulled him out and will try again in the future - this was the only thing all week that didn't work out for us. It wasn't the fault of the ski school though, they seemed fine he just got bored with it due to his age and enthusiasm). If you just want to ski with them there are greens on the plateau with a short covered moving carpet, a longer rope tow and an even longer poma.

As for the rest of the resort it is not a party place, there are however a couple of nice bars and restaurants. Also it is nice that things are sensible prices, €2.50 for a small happy hour beer in the main square at the bottom of the lifts, meal deal in the same square (bottom of main lift) €11 for burger, fries and soft drink. On the hill things are slightly more expensive (€10-14 for a large pizza, €5 for a massive enfant spaghetti bolognese, €3.50 for a chocolate chaud with masses of cream!) however knowhere near the silly prices in some larger alpine resorts. Also there is a room available for packed lunches if you want to take your own stuff up.

Finally accomodation prices are very reasonable especially if you book with Sunweb as we did who give you a lift pass voucher included. We had an ski in ski out apartment (typical French ski resort fare) with 2 bedrooms (6 person) so didn't have to use the sofa bed, and use of the outdoor swimming pool, and onsite bar for £750 for all 4 of us - considering a 6 day lift pass for an adult is about £150 this makes the apartment cost approx £300 for the week. I also found it easier to take time off from skiing to do family stuff knowing it had been thrown in and I hadn't paid £200 like in some of the larger resorts!
Transfers are approx 2 hours from Lyon, Grenoble, Chambery, Turin ( note €55 for the tunnel if you fly to Italy though) so plenty of cheap flight options. There is also the option to take a TGV to Modane and get a 15 minute taxi to resort if you don't want to fly.

Maybe I was spoiled with the stunning snow conditions this week and getting fresh tracks on 2 out of 6 days in waist deep snow has skewed my judgement however I would definitely head back. I would also go with a group of mates and get some guiding as the area seems to have some amazing terrain, further to this the Eskimo ski pass covers all the resorts in the valley (aussios, la Norma, Val cenis, Bonneville Sur arc) for not much more money and all are within a 45 minute drive of each other, it is also possible to access valthorens and the 3 valleys from orelle a 15 minute drive away if piste bashing is your thing.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 19, 2018, 10:10:48 am
I've heard good things about the place too, seems popular with Dutch contingent (recommended by 2 independently)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 19, 2018, 08:12:27 pm
some action from today

I took my mate Al out and lent him a snowboard

he has never done any snow or board sports before

he is not a young man

this pretty much sums up the local scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Ic19k0uiI
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 23, 2018, 12:53:53 pm
I think this guy was on the hill when me and Plattsy were there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_1kapuLGI
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 25, 2018, 11:06:24 pm
Anyone know of any good tree skiing in the Oetztal valley?


Can't think of any offhand, and I've been there the last few winters. In general the sides of the main valley below the treeline are really steep. There are a few tiny bits of off-piste with trees at the top of Kühtai, either side of the stream coming down from the big dam, but that's about it.

What a week  :great: Really lucked-out with the conditions and weather. We had a couple of stormy days at the start of the week that brought 15-20cm of new snow. 

We were staying in Ötz and actually spent a lot of time just in the small, family-oriented Hochötz above, as there were lots of nicely spaced trees and fun, relatively safe (if a bit rocky at times) off piste terrain. Also, nobody else was really off piste, so lap after lap of fresh tracks.
I have had somewhat of a snowboarding renaissance 8) .  I skied one day on rental skis (amazing Stöckli Laser SC, coupled with sloppy flexy rental boots - an amusing if alarming combination  :o ) but snowboarded every other day. I know some on here (yes Chris, I'm talking about you) can be somewhat dismissive of "rocker" but my new board has blown my mind!

Put it this way, on my old Ride Timeless I would crash almost every drop or jump in powder, I could never turn through the trees confidently and exactly where I wanted, and I nose-dive-cartwheeled countless times (with the whiplash to prove it). I'd get stuck on the flats, lose my edge when the pistes has 1" of soft snow and I got so fed up I didn't snowboard for 3 full seasons.


On my new board I can turn through the trees almost telepathically (slow or fast), land 90% of drops and jumps, float effortlessly through the powder with 30% to 50% front foot pressure (depending on snow depth), yet still happily charge the pistes, cut through chop, pop and slide through the moguls. Koolaid  :alky: 

This will stick long in the memory as the week I fell back in love with snowboarding!

Slash snowboards, I salute you.

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Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2018, 09:37:01 am
So it's a skill compensator then. I might give one a go if my current board ever dies, but it's showing no signs of doing so at present, and I've never had any issues with my riding like you describe*. Glad you had a good trip.

*(i.e. I'm not a punter)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 26, 2018, 09:59:04 am
So it's a skill compensator then. I might give one a go if my current board ever dies, but it's showing no signs of doing so at present, and I've never had any issues with my riding like you describe*. Glad you had a good trip.

*(i.e. I'm not a punter)

Yep,   :guilty:

Or just evolution of design  = right tool for the job?

I happy enough to admit it. The main thing for me is that I actually progressed every day, riding better and better. Whereas previously I was fighting the board so much I was going backwards.

I'd give you a go, but it's probably still a bit small for your requirements? It's 160 standard width. Its not full rocker, found them too wandery on piste last year, just tip and tail rocker, camber underfoot.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: sxrxg on March 26, 2018, 10:11:21 am
Not sure if skis and boards are very different however my new sticks have rocker (both tip and tail with camber underfoot) and I will never be going back to a traditionally cambered ski.

They are so much better for 90% of what I do allowing a more centered neutral stance in soft snow, lifting the nose in crud, allow the bindings to be mounted more centered so also get more tail to help with landing cliffs, easier switch skiing and a more balanced ski for spinning. Also less chance of edge catches when spinning and easier to get up on the noses and tails for buttering. Only downsides are less effective edge on piste so don't carve quite as well on hard snow/ice also I do get a bit of tip chatter when at Mach 10 however most of my skiing is more playful and not charging so again not a big problem for me.

For the first time in a very long time I also found that the equipment let me ski differently allowing me to pivot the skis and release the tails in soft snow, this helped in the trees and also allowed me to slash in powder to scrub speed - this is something I have never had the pleasure of on large traditional camber pow skis and it is a very enjoyable way of skiing. I am sure this 'newschool' style won't suit everyone, especially chargers, however I can see rocker making skiing more enjoyable for a vast number of skiers who don't go quite as fast and like to ski in soft snow.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2018, 11:09:55 am
I'd give you a go, but it's probably still a bit small for your requirements? It's 160 standard width.

My board is 167 midwide, so not miles off, but they seem to go smaller with newer design boards.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 28, 2018, 09:55:50 am
time to start dreaming again

https://vimeo.com/300817511
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2018, 10:06:06 am
Needs to snow a lot before 9 Jan. I'm due some powder.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 28, 2018, 11:39:44 am
Needs to snow a lot before 9 Jan. I'm due some powder.

got a trip booked?

I'm going back to Jasna in March
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on November 28, 2018, 12:20:56 pm
Needs to snow a lot before 9 Jan. I'm due some powder.

Just booked myself a week in Furano (Japan) in Jan  :great: after almost 20-years in HK its about time i made it over there for a play...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2018, 12:38:40 pm
yes! looks amazing. Your bro was tentative to join us, but  can't make timings work
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 14, 2018, 10:30:48 pm
Plattsy putting in the effort last March

steeper than it looks at the top

there's a reason this slope isn't covered in punters

this was our sixth day on - our legs were jelly - ace!

https://vimeo.com/306482418
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 14, 2018, 11:22:50 pm
this is one of my big Coulda Shoulda Woulda descents

I didn't descend or ascend the route when I had the chance to learn it and then when conditions were right with good snow I wasn't properly prepared; so didn't do it

I did do other nearby stuff that made my season - especially North Face of Col du Plan in great condition - which basically should have been a green light for doing the Mallory - but really wanted the Mallory...

this guy's use of switch stance on the steeps is admirable - and holding the selfie stick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLcbriGhO5I
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 17, 2018, 12:06:36 am
this evening I went to the indoor snow slope at Castleford with a mate

he was trying out his brand new Burton step on boots and bindings - we set his angles the same as what he used before with normal bindings and he just rode as normal. He really liked the set up. he was riding well for a man on a new set up who hasn't been on a board for a few years.

Interestingly, I was using a set of Flow Pro 11 bindings and was quicker in and out than he was.

I like the back of the Flow bindings because there is less junk behind the heel to drag in the snow when banked over and for this reason I think I'm going to try some sort of hybrid rear entry binding - either the Pathron XT or GT bindings or the Flow NX2 type things depending what I can get for my budget on ebay.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 17, 2018, 09:20:15 am

got a trip booked?


Portes du Soleil / Grand Massif / Praz de Lys - 9-14 jan. Kind of a default, but best option for maximising riding in a short timespace.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 08, 2019, 10:33:03 pm
I'd been deliberately not watching that because of the thinking/talking about people dying

However, it seemed to be more about "pro" riders, which distanced the whole thing from my experience

The interesting thing for me was the brief mention of the difference between "extreme" and "freeride".

In the early and mid 90s I was very reluctant to accept the label of "extreme" for anything I did - I was embarrassed when people wanted me to talk about "extreme " descents. The steepest things I did were in good condition and so didn't feel hard - certainly compared to what climbing hard involves. The most difficult things I did were when I ended up committed to things that were in poor condition - times where I ended up putting crampons on to climb out or hanging off a screw or ice axe whilst taking my board off to work out some kind of escape. Oh, and glacier travel in general - crumbs, I had some close calls doing that stuff. Those epics were all the essential work required for the reward of getting big descents on good snow.

I'm not sure how I would have coped with pressure to perform for filming and sponsorship like the stuff in TWENTY

related to TWENTY,  Xavier De Le Rue has an interesting channel on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7FNrty1fPrhzXTFDGNgJxg/videos

*edit*
arse, didn't mean to sound like such a "look at me" -  HVS in the rain is a good way to measure 90s extreme snowboarding
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2019, 10:56:08 am
Just realised that http://www.steepscotland.info has photos I can link!

(http://www.steepscotland.info/images/large/aladdins_buttress_1.JPG)

I blew a heelside turn just here - where the red line is on AM

(http://www.steepscotland.info/images/large/aladdins_couloir_2.JPG)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2019, 08:46:16 pm
There was a snowboarding scene in Aviemore at the time; based around a shop in the town, but they all seemed to be skateboarding type people. I had met them a few of them briefly and had lifts off them, but they seemed to be into doing jumps and tricks that I was never going to be able to do. Snowboarding wasn't my thing by the look of it. They spent a lot of time talking about equipment.

Thinking about this highlights my attitude to equipment and gear in general. I had worked in an outdoor shop, Basecamp in Ilkley, later to become Backcountry. I was mocked (in a nice way) for the way that I wore everything out. I would grind walking boots, climbing shoes and waterproofs until they were falling apart. I found myself dumbstruck at the sight of rich people buying the latest gear when they already owned perfectly usable stuff.

I was approaching the mountains with a snowboard with no real plan. I had a vague notion that looking at climbing grades was a way of doing things on a board. That didn't work - Scottish grade 2 or 3 isn't much fun on a snowboard and there is a huge variation around what a grade 1 is.

I slowly learned that there is a joy to be had from doing smooth moves on soft snow that was similar to the pleasure of doing well practised moves on Grit.

I started to look for good snow.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2019, 08:58:08 pm
I did a load of soloing with my board on my back so that I could board down

After a few mess ups it became clear that trying to solo even quite easy routes with a board on my back was not much fun compared to just sliding down for the sake of descending

However, I put a lot of hours into linking climbs with snowboard descents.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 12, 2019, 10:09:48 am
Just realised that http://www.steepscotland.info has photos I can link!

My ski mate Scott Muir's (no not him, another one) brainchild. Great person to ski with, encyclopedic knowledge of what will be in good nick when anywhere in Scotland.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on February 12, 2019, 10:48:16 am
Scott Muir's (no not him, another one) brainchild.

There are two Scott Muirs? I assumed it was the same guy. Mind       blown......
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 12, 2019, 12:03:18 pm
Nope - one active winter climber, dry tooling bolter, former climbing wall owner / builder.

Other - keen ski tourer, triathlete, runner.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 15, 2019, 11:40:43 pm
seems topical - ETHICS/STYLE

'90 '91 '92 I didn't bump into another snowboarder whilst walking around the hills and sliding down interesting slopes. I knew that steep skiing and ski touring were things that people did, but wasn't in contact with that scene. I met skiers occasionally, but they were only doing steady touring stuff. I was trying to work out what I wanted to do and why.

I knew that using the climbing grades for slopes that I was doing wasn't going to work for me (too hard). Climbing styles were the obvious starting point. Doing descents top down without climbing them first seemed like the obvious option for good fun (on sight - as I saw it), but a few serious fuckups with conditions led me to think about this. In retrospect, my technique and equipment was pretty shit, but trying to slide down untested Scottish gullies was a really bad idea.

So, climbing things first didn't seem like cheating. With the meagre Scottish snow pack, this wasn't too hard.

Some problems occurred where cornices or steep entries were involved - was it OK to claim a descent from below the cornice? or should I only be doing things from the proper top?

Jacob's Ladder in Sneachda was my first style issue. I had plodded up from the bottom. There was a big cornice over the top. I did a couple of descents from below the cornice, but found myself wondering if I had really done the gully. So I tried dropping the head-wall.

I had no experience of jumps or drops and had somehow managed to think that I could just start the same gully descent but with a bit more speed.

Turns out that a few feet of free-fall provides a lot of speed.

The deep snow slowed me down without breaking any bones, but it was not a stylish descent.

I had a few similar experiences on other hills.

I still had it in my head that a top-down, on-sight descent was the best thing to aim for, but was quite content to go with nice turns on good snow no matter where it started.

So - I had sorted out that I didn't need to do a hard solo before the descent, I didn't need to do the whole thing from the top, and it was OK to check out the slope before going down it.  It was nice to feel this.

I had a few other big days that added to this -

the day I was going to solo routes on Lurchers Crag, but realised that the slopes to the south had the most amazing lines of drifted snow going right down to the bottom of the valley - perfect untouched soft snow for  hundreds of meters as long as you are happy to turn within the corridors available.

Also - the day I was headed off to do steep stuff in the Loch Avon basin, but found that Coire Raibeirt had amazing, untouched snow for a huge descent - I just kept lapping it until I could hardly walk.

In the light of modern bouldering styles, this stuff seems trivial - just have fun doing what you can without dying - but it felt like a big discovery to me.

The next issue was other hill users

I had a few moments where I was coming down a slope and walkers/climbers were coming up. We never fell out, but I knew I didn't want people on slopes that I was descending and am pretty sure they didn't want to be sprayed with snow from some idiot on a plank.

Creag Meagaidh was possibly my worst trip in terms of other hill users. Sorry  :oops:

I did Easy Gully a couple of times, having taken care to make sure that no-one else was on it..... on the way down, there was people on it; both times.

Even coming down from the North end of the crag and then the South end of the crag, there were people coming up the slopes I wanted to go down.

Nobody got upset about it, but I felt very strongly that I did not want to be going down things things that had people on - and I certainly didn't want to be annoying people.

Lessons learned
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2019, 12:14:27 am
GEAR

I could never see the point in buying new gear when I already had something that could do the job.

That first board was a Sims Blade 1710. Almost no sidecut, very little flex and the stance set well towards the tail.

It did have metal edges and a bullet hard base.

I doubt I could have carved much on it, even if I had known that carving turns was a thing.

The bindings were basic. No ratchet straps, just levered wire loops which hooked over a series of curved teeth. A hard landing would pop them undone. I still have the bindings (fixed to my original snowboard touring skis) - I'll take a picture of the fastening mechanism when I get a chance.

My boots were my plastic mountaineering boots. Turquoise Koflachs (picture to follow; of the boots, not necessarily being used for snowboarding). I already owned them and had plenty of experience climbing and walking in them and they fitted in my bindings. All bases covered as far as I was concerned; plus, they took clip on crampons (which I already had) - so I knew I could climb my way out of any poor conditions.

At the time, if you asked in any gear shop or read any magazines, the jury was out on whether hard boots or soft boots were the best. On the piste they had very clear cut roles - soft for jumps and tricks, hard for racing. For off piste and steep stuff, it was not very clear what was best - I just stuck with what I had, because it worked for me. I was using mountaineering boots in soft bindings.

I did a bit of experimenting with axes. I knew that technical ice axes had a reputation for being too grabby for slowing falls on snow slopes and my tests on a board confirmed this on the two icey/hardpacked slopes I tested them on. I already owned a pair of classic alpine head, short shaft steel axes and liked the way they worked. I tested them on steepish icy slopes and managed to slow myself after deliberately losing an edge and sliding on both my front and my back. I decided that one axe worked best for me, held in my right hand with a wrist sling (I ride regular) with the pick facing away from me and my left hand used on the head of the axe -  this way I could lean the pick into the slope on both heel and toeside turns. I practised these whenever I came across a suitable slope - it's not the sort of thing you can do on the lift served pistes, obviously. My practice led me to the decision that having the hammer, rather than the adze was the best way to go. The risk of hurting myself on an adze was all too obvious and I didn't expect to be cutting steps (interesting story about having to resort to cutting steps and handholds a few years later - remind me to get back to it).

In Scotland I mostly used the axe as an aid for climbing up slopes - and that was almost always using the shaft to get up snow slopes. After that first mistake on Aladdin's Mirror (before I started using an axe), I didn't lose an edge on firm snow or ice in anything near as serious a position. Thinking back, sliding out on a heel edge on 40 degree firm snow and skating downwards on my backside in shiny waterproof trousers towards a big cliff drop was really serious. I am still not sure how I managed to gently feather the edge back onto the snow without catching the edge and flipping myself forwards - I have, since then, done just that (flipped over) in less serious situations using  much better equipment.

I'm trying to keep this in chronological order, but in trying to explain my development, I'm sure I will overshoot some interesting epics. I may have to come back to stuff.

Actually, there are some monumental epics from that period that I'm not prepared to write about the interweb  - feel free to ask me about them in person though.

In between the mountain wanderings, there were always days on the Cairngorm pistes. At their best, Scottish ski resorts are just like tiny Alpine resorts, with better whisky and nicer people. At their worst they are muddy strips of windblown ice in between big rocks, with little rocks poking out of the good bits; and "windblown" is an understatement.

I loved those crappy days when the wind was not quite high enough to derail the drag lifts, but way too uncomfortable for normal people to stay out on the hill. Graupel blasting any exposed skin and actually scratching goggles. The obviously associated poor visibility made the prediction of ice and rock fields even harder, but every now and then you could find the ribbons where the wind blown snow had collected - these velvet smooth, almost invisible veins of snowboard-ready, crowd-free perfection where the reward for sticking out the weather. It doesn't take a lot of skill to turn in this sort of snow, but it does require a lot of reading the slope angle, aspect and colour withing limited range of vision; and when you stray out of the good stuff, you are either on the ice or near the rocks.

A fantastic training facility with just the right amount of reward for anyone willing to put themselves up against the rough for the sake of finding the smooth.

It worked for me. Being able to compensate for big changes of conditions without always being able to see it is something that has stuck with me and certainly led to a lot of confidence to tackle bigger hills later on.

Crumbs - not even past The Scottish Years yet...

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Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2019, 12:38:56 am
back to the style/ethics thing

it was pretty obvious early on that, for me, significant side-slipping made a descent invalid

there isn't a climbing equivalent - possibly chipping, or over brushing, but with the temporary nature of snow instead of the relative permanence of the state of the rock

if you don't do turns down the thing, you haven't boarded it was how it felt

in later years there was another aspect to this; that side-slipping stuff ruins the snow for the next person, but I feel privileged to have had the opportunity to find this out in isolation
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 16, 2019, 03:27:05 pm
I had another cracking week in Jasna last week - I saw chamois every day except one!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D00RaX4XgAE2nOT.jpg)

less snow than last year, but I got a lot of the bigger off piste descents done in reasonable condition - short walks and a willingness to do a few turns on steep hardpack in exposed positions really paid off - I didn't actually get the axe out, but was pleased I had it in my bag

It was nice to get Central and Meteorological couloirs in decent condition (L and R variations of the central line in this pic) - the later is a right "look at me!" start with stacks of punters staring at you outside the cable car station
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D05u95JX4AE26g_.jpg)

I did this a couple of times
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D00RXy_WkAMua6o.jpg)

weather was generally interesting, meaning flat light much of the time, so action cam video efforts were lame - made worse by the fact that I hold my head in vastly different ways depending on the angle of the slope and type of turns I am doing - a bit of slough management here by way of example
https://vimeo.com/324592022


phone photo of a skier following me down some nice snow
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1t5QbbXQAAEPJE.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 16, 2019, 05:28:09 pm
the 1:25k map for Jasna/Low Tatras has been out of print for a while, but there is an excellent FREE online map of Slovakia which works well on a phone - worth printing off and laminating the relevant bits - good detail as you zoom in and the tracking function worked on my phone

https://www.freemap.sk/?map=14/48.945704/19.602766&layers=T

combine this with the freeride pdf (https://www.jasna.sk/fileadmin/sandbox2/Freeride_prirucka_2017_nahlad.pdf) , a lift pass and a small amount of common sense and you're on the snowboarding equivalent to the send train


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 16, 2019, 08:20:38 pm
there are a few important lessons here about navigation and getting yourself out of the shit (and the shots at the end of floating down the Dru Rognon are a reminder of why it's worth learning)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HCLfwTwggQ
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 21, 2019, 10:57:37 am
for anyone with fewer commitments than me, this might be of interest

you can buy a season pass for Jasna and other nearby resorts for next season for only 229 Euros if you buy it before the end of this season (excludes Xmas and NY week)

https://www.gopass.sk/EN/homepage/smart-season-pass?fbclid=IwAR0Q3gfwAYeoLiSYWNotcmIaVhGAQ61sCkoIwGTwny3zM4a90R6_ot8TQww

there's a part of my brain which keeps suggesting that I take the kids out of school for the winter and head over there....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2019, 11:38:56 am
Anyone been to Gressoney la Trinite for a family ski trip? We were going to go to Les Gets next week as we know it so well, but had a good package deal to here come up. It will be kids first trip to the Alps, so they will be in morning lessons / childcare, and we will be able to get out and ski.

Concerns are learner zone looks tiny compared to Les Gets, and is there enough to keep two advanced intermediates adults entertained for a week if it's piste only skiing?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on March 26, 2019, 01:58:17 pm
We've been but not sure how much help I'll be - May was pretty confident on blacks and off piste by that point...

There is more easy skiing than the piste map shows - the blues were pretty chilled and ditto the reds, maybe the odd steeper bit which would earn them that grade but the rest of the runs were really chilled. We went at feb half term and it was the lack of easy runs on the map which encouraged us - we hoped it would keep the UK school holiday masses away, which it did, and combined with the decent easy access off piste stuff although we didn't have great snow. Not sure if you would be taking the kids on this stuff or if they are just in lessons.

We did mostly on piste stuff for the week, we were doing full days with May so not going the same speed/distance as we would without (although she was racing in the UK back then so not slow either) and we didn't get bored although when we were thinking of going back last year I was a little concerned that if we had poor snow again it could be a pain.

Italy so food on the hill cheap and if your kids happen to be blonde (or even if not) the local folk will love them/be super friendly.

I'd love to go again with good snow - loads of in resort off piste and plenty of small tours from resort as well. I've no idea how snow is looking in the Alps this year, due to recent puppies we are not getting away so I've been deliberately ignoring it all as much as possible.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2019, 02:12:21 pm
Thanks Ben, ideal. Both kids have not really skied on snow much, Kyle had dry slope lessons when he was 4, but probably can't remember much, so will be from scratch for them. They will be in lessons all morning, and probably too knackered in afternoon for first few days, so probably book childcare for afternoons and opt out of that some days if they pick it up.

We will be outside of England holidays next week, so hopefully avoid the crowds. I'll get on the hair dye before we go!

Snow cover looks OK, there is a faint glimmer of home for some fresh next week if forecasts are to be believed.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2019, 12:35:44 pm
Booked! Kids in lessons / lunch / childcare 'til 2 pm so we have a bit of free time to get out there.

How gnarly is the off  piste as far as you could see, is it worth taking full avi gear? And worth paying a bit more for access to the Indren Gondola?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on March 27, 2019, 02:11:06 pm
Kids in till 2pm sounds pretty good - decent amount of skiing for you guys.

I can't really remember that much to be honest. We went down the Alagna side a fair bit - all v. easy accessible and didn't feel like you needed avi gear. The inbren gondola was only open the first day I think (or maybe it only looked good the first day) and we ended up not going up there. It did all look nice coming down from that, again not massively 'out there'. I'm not sure if you needed transceivers to go on it? Guess they take up f all room to pack anyhow. I guess being more safety aware when skiing than climbing (maybe as family are involved rather than just me) we all have transcievers on all the time and I virtually always carry shovel, probe, bothy bag and skins etc even piste skiing.

Sorry about the vagueness, it must have been 6 odd years ago, which for me is a long time to remember.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2019, 02:20:29 pm
No worries. I'll probably stick in transceivers as much safety gear as i can fit. Not sure we will do much full on stuff, missus has not done much in the last 10 years, and we are both doing London Marathon at the end of the moth, so don't want to spanner ourselves!

Thanks again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 28, 2019, 06:50:12 am
We went for a couple of days a few years ago, the snow was a bit bullet hard, but I've always kept it in the back of my mind as a potential for a week away as there seemed to be loads of accessible "side country". It's all fairly low risk from what I remember. We didn't hit the Indren lift, so can't help there.

Fairly quiet and nae one seems to go offpiste!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 29, 2019, 10:35:22 am
Anyone "on the ground" know where is best in Scotland for this weekend?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 29, 2019, 10:50:55 am
I can see a bit of white on Lochnagar from my desk, but I don't think anywhere is great. Assume you mean touring? Coe / Ben Nevis / Northern Corries look to be best bet, but none look too exciting. look at "Mark Back Corries" Facebook posts to get an idea.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 29, 2019, 10:52:08 am
http://www.winterhighland.info/general/

best place for summary and forecast
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 29, 2019, 10:54:38 am
Looking at that, Glencoe.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 29, 2019, 11:32:18 am
 A mate is flying up from Devon, we had "booked" the weekend to do the Ski Orienteering Championships but that is obviously cancelled.

We're heading up whatever though. I've got ski gear, winter gear and rock gear in the van!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 29, 2019, 11:33:03 am
I thought Glencoe was looking the best, closed today because of wind though.
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Post by: galpinos on April 02, 2019, 08:48:25 pm
Cheers for the advise.

We had a day in Glencoe (fun but a lot of walking to get a couple of good lines), a day on Aonach Mor (awesome creamy spring snow and could nearly ski back round to the front) and Monday was a bit rubbish weather wise so just took at wander up Am Brodach at the east end on the Aonach Eagach.

You always have to work for it but I do love skiing in Scotland.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on April 04, 2019, 07:50:43 am
For those keen for one last hurrah, it looks like Scotland is back “in”. Missed it by a couple of days......
 :'(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 08, 2019, 09:17:05 am
Just got back from Alps, looks like it's back "out" again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 08, 2019, 03:11:36 pm
Had a fun week in Val d'Isere last week, hired a splitboard the last couple of days, one day backcountry whiteout vibes then final day a proper tour over the Col des fours. Nitro board with Voile bindings. It worked perfectly well but didn't set my world on fire. I'm mainly putting that down to finding myself on proper mountain terrain in deeply unsuitable soft boots that couldn't kick steps, and faffing with fragile flappy straps. Thinking there must be some halfway house? My 20+ year old Burton step-in boots and bindings would seem to be a start but I appreciate they never caught on. Anyone else got any experience?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 08, 2019, 03:22:35 pm
Guess you got the dump we did!

Can't think of an alternative, as much as it's a daft statement, maybe learn to ski?

I bit the bullet and had to take a few steps back, and force myself to learn to ski off piste when i would have usually reached for a board at the first sign of soft / fresh snow. But I've always been a reasonably competent piste skier (i learned in the pre-snowboard area) so it wasn't a massive leap. Loads of friends have said that they were surprised how easily they made the transition from board to skis.

Benefits of minimal faff switching over, shuffling on flatter terrain, easily taking a step in crampon, and in steep technical terrain I will now take 2 poles and 2 edges of skis over the single edge of a snowboard any d
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 08, 2019, 03:49:45 pm
Yeah I'm very aware of that alternative. It was actually my plan to sacrifice half this holiday to ski lessons, but I changed my mind after one run.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 08, 2019, 03:57:06 pm
...ay.

Sorry if it came across as teaching granny...

What did you struggle with? Need to give it half a day at least.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on April 08, 2019, 03:59:10 pm
Loads of friends have said that they were surprised how easily they made the transition from board to skis.

Good to hear, I'm contemplating it next year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 08, 2019, 04:14:53 pm
It wasn't so much a case of struggling, just a feeling of instant disappointment.  Boarding just seems to be a lot more fun. I did five or six weeks on skis as a youth but totally plateaued. Boarding rapidly opened up the terrain I wanted to hit at the expense of some hassle on the flat. I guess new skis are easier, but my Dad and sister are far from crushing the powder despite having 20/30 weeks plus. Given this was my third trip since leaving Uni, I'm leaving skiing for the off chance I become a monied early retiree.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 09, 2019, 09:21:55 am
Ta, those Jones boots look better but they've still got clown toes. Not likely to buy anything soon tbh so just interested in what folk are using. What bindings are you on/ are popular over there?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: alpinebisou on April 09, 2019, 02:51:52 pm
I'm a skier and don't follow splitboard technology closely. However, since this is a discussion about alternatives...

At least as far as the Alps are concerned, where the snow conditions are mixed and terrain rarely uniformly mellow, splitboarders do face problems going up. They have a big floppy boot and fat ski, which is hard to handle on slippery, steep or exposed skintrack. The boot is not well adapted to taking a crampon, or mountaineering in general. You do see splitboarders, but they are in a massive minority compared to ski tourers.

One solution that you occasionally see (not sure how common it is in the 'scene') is the Dynasplit or AT Split. Essentially you put dynafit toe pieces on the board for going up. And you use some lightweight ski touring boots (e.g. Scarpa Alien, Dynafit TLT). These are super flexible and comfy but have a stiff, mountaineering sole and take a proper crampon. You can control the ski better and your uphill setup is also lighter on the feet because your snowboard binding is in the bag. You can also use dynafit couteaux on the bindings.

No doubt a compromise, but I think it makes sense if you are more into using a board for ski/snowboard mountaineering.

See here: https://www.wildsnow.com/22105/ski-tour-hardboot-splitboard-snowboard/ (https://www.wildsnow.com/22105/ski-tour-hardboot-splitboard-snowboard/)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 04, 2019, 07:23:14 am
Some low quality footage from the helmet of some ageing fat bloke descending the ridge that runs north from the summit of Dereše in the Low Tatra, Slovakia.

I know that nobody likes to hear the scrape of a board on hard snow, but it's worth it for the few moments where the snow turns soft and quiet.

Usual problems with head/neck/camera angle changing depending on the slope

http://vimeo.com/357673315
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gollum on September 04, 2019, 08:37:50 am
Brilliant stuff.

Do love that feeling when descending a gully and there’s just a bit of sluff in front of you, like riding a wave.

Bring on the season.

Winter is coming.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 04, 2019, 01:23:46 pm
Nice. Terrain looks like halfway between Alpine and Scottish.

Keen for a good winter, scored a golden duck in Scottish skiing last winter, compared to the great winter before..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 04, 2019, 01:55:42 pm
Nice. Terrain looks like halfway between Alpine and Scottish.

Just like a big version of the Cairngorms - similar problems with wind and flat light
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 04, 2019, 02:22:27 pm
Not selling it to me! :)

PM me an email address and I'll dropbox a clip from Cairngorms winter before last. Dropping down to Loch Eanaich from the west side ridge. Amazing day.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on September 04, 2019, 03:12:56 pm
Nice. Terrain looks like halfway between Alpine and Scottish.

Keen for a good winter, scored a golden duck in Scottish skiing last winter, compared to the great winter before..

Back Corries last year:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/dbpage.php?id=325739
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 04, 2019, 03:18:38 pm
I had great days that winter, highlight, as above, plus actually doing some amazing stuff in Glen Clova!

I have now mountain biked, bouldered, winter climbed, skied, road biked, trad climbed and done a hill run there. Doing a road race there in November, all that is left is to get the SUP out and do the river.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on September 04, 2019, 03:42:53 pm
I had great days that winter, highlight, as above, plus actually doing some amazing stuff in Glen Clova!

I have now mountain biked, bouldered, winter climbed, skied, road biked, trad climbed and done a hill run there. Doing a road race there in November, all that is left is to get the SUP out and do the river.

Sorry, I meant last winter, as in this year, 31/03/19!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 04, 2019, 03:56:29 pm
I think I was wading in waist deep snow in Italy. IIRC it didn't last long..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 04, 2019, 05:16:54 pm
Not selling it to me! :)

it's cheap
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 05, 2019, 08:59:23 am
Same chute, different day.

This was the first day of my trip in March 2019.

The crust was a bit firm at the top of the gully and further down (around 2 mins at a guess) my tail got stuck under the crust on a turn, which caused a moment of excitement - I thought it would be more obvious on the video, but it seems that I kept the scared yelp in my head and didn't let it out.

http://vimeo.com/358005557
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 07, 2019, 09:31:52 am
(I'll be using a gimbal next time)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 09, 2019, 09:19:00 am
(I'll be using a gimp ball next time)

Your more usual video fayre.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on September 09, 2019, 12:19:45 pm
Anyone been to Bulgaria - been looking at Bankso as a bit of a cheaper (lot cheaper) option than France this year..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 09, 2019, 12:26:25 pm
For who? Family trip? Mate went with relatives and got bored shitless in a week. Said snow wasn't great and so one or two major lifts weren't running, so not a lot to do and was pretty crowded. Food on mountain not great either.

This is all second hand mind, and about 10 years ago.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on September 09, 2019, 12:42:56 pm
Hmm - yeah, family trip. 

interweb seems to hint at massive queue in the morning as its just one gondala to get you up to the slopes from the town with no queuing etiquette.  Can't say its being sold to me.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 09, 2019, 01:16:27 pm
Yep, can't remember exact details, but that was one. Base is pretty low too, i think they had to download a lot of the time.

You considered Italy? Went for the first time ever last year. Small resort, but slopes almost deserted, on mountain eating excellent and crazy cheap, and instructors were brilliant with the kids. We stayed in Gressoney with Esprit, but they are no longer running that as their base, and are opening another hotel in Champoluc. Some slow and strange lifts, but made up for by almost no queues.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 05, 2019, 09:13:31 pm
I've always preferred a wider board and have always suffered with toe and heel drag when carving with a conventional softboot setup

I was gobsmacked when my mate Graham gave me a Donek Twin with a 30.5cm waist for my birthday last week

I've had 3 hours on the indoor slope at Castleford with it today - I didn't get spanked as badly as expected and had a great time leaning it over into previously impossible angles

Obvious limitations of being on a small slope, but I was grinning a lot - lift operators pointed out that I was clearly having the most fun

I've looked at Ryan Knapton's style and wondered whether I would get on with his sort of setup and now I know. I would never have bought one for myself, but am glad that Graham has more sense (and money) than me.

27cm wide Pathron Carbon Gold next to the Donek Twin for comparison

now... I wonder how it feels on steep stuff...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EId0aSPXsAAqTIC.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 06, 2019, 09:20:42 am
That is seriously wide! I've always compromised with a really stiff midwide with what looks like a bit more sidecut. Not sure of actual width and can't measure, it now lives in the Alps..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 06, 2019, 09:47:08 pm
It took a lot of concentration to maintain control, but was really rewarding in terms of that g-force fun you get on well carved turns. Same feeling as my old race board on hard boots, but nicer when skidding turns.

I guess it's the opposite to choosing one of the forgiving rocker boards to make boarding more relaxed.

My legs feel it today! Back and glutes less than I expected - possibly due to being forced to be stacked in balance all the time.

previous session a few weeks ago was on a K2 Double Wide that I got for £15 off Ebay - much softer than I'm used to - I have been enjoying adapting to the different boards.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: gollum on November 06, 2019, 10:36:02 pm
I had to buy small bindings to sort out my stance, but they seem to work well.

Struggle to find boards as like to ride a twin, as suits me.

Wide boards always feel like hard work to me as feel like turning a tanker.........maybe I’m just lazy.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 07, 2019, 08:38:25 am
Same feeling as my old race board on hard boots, but nicer when skidding turns.

I miss mine. Day after a big dump of snow, when the fresh snow has been groomed and is like sorbet, carving on that stuff is too much fun. Bindings were a crap design and after being fixed half a dozen times i had to abandon it, as they couldn't be replaced.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 08, 2019, 05:16:38 pm
Same feeling as my old race board on hard boots, but nicer when skidding turns.

I miss mine. Day after a big dump of snow, when the fresh snow has been groomed and is like sorbet, carving on that stuff is too much fun. Bindings were a crap design and after being fixed half a dozen times i had to abandon it, as they couldn't be replaced.

I had the same problem - ended up getting the main frame of one binding welded (twice) after snapping it
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 09, 2019, 12:13:34 am
Great run!
Has he been doing much exercise/training in preparation for winter?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 11, 2019, 08:41:36 am
If he doesn't get in he could probably blag a place in the GB team riding like that!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 10, 2019, 10:49:20 am
proper mountain terrain in deeply unsuitable soft boots that couldn't kick steps,

I got a pair of second hand (hardly used) Burton Driver X boots - decent Vibram sole -  In March, I kicked steps in hard snow going both up and across. I didn't use crampons, but am confident that they would work fine with strap on crampons.

You are welcome to come and have a look at mine (probably not your size)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 10, 2019, 10:58:54 am
For crampons, I prefer steel so that they can be bent to fit the boot and feel safe on rocky/mixed stuff- stainless like the BD Contact Strap so there's no issue with protective coating coming off when bending the frame. I've only used alu for harscheisen/couteaux.

I'm going to take a pair of microspikes with me next year to see how that works out
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 10, 2019, 04:28:41 pm
You are welcome to come and have a look at mine (probably not your size)

Cheers. No idea when I'll be going again so happy to wait for your review. And no, they wouldn't fit  :lol:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 10, 2019, 08:18:42 pm
I used the Driver X boots for a week in March 2019. I went out of my way to scramble up the summits of Derese and Chopok via some more-tricky-than-necessary routes, including bare rock and rock with soft rime or hoar.

Best softboots I've used for kicking steps and scrambling. Not quite as good as proper mountaineering or ski boots in the harder packed snow, but that's because they don't have the rigid narrow lip sticking out at the front.

As good as proper mountaineering boots on rock and soft rime/hoar type stuff (without crampons)

Johnny Brown would probably be limited to E3 and below with them (with a snowboard on his back)

They work great for snowboarding.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 10, 2019, 08:24:55 pm
Sounds good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 10, 2019, 08:34:14 pm
example of stuff I was happy going up without crampons. Had an axe in the bag, but didn't get it out.

took the left ridge to the summit, so never exposed to big fall potential

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELc9TzUXkAANZJR.jpg:large)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2020, 04:07:06 pm
turns out that Grivel do their G10 crampon in extra wide to suit snowboard boots

they also have long bars available for BIG boots

best of all, there is a video of Stevie Haston demonstrating (the end is worth watching)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fri5GfYihac
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 23, 2020, 03:16:30 pm
Portes du Soleil report - pistes in great shape, had about a foot of fresh on Friday night, and bluebird powder on Saturday.

If you are in Les Gets or Morzine, go by the bottom of Pointe de Nyon lift, they now have bird of prey centre at the restaurant; Eagles, Condor, Vulture, Owls. Flying down from  the top of the drag lift. Great to see. And the bottom of the restaurant is now a picnic are complete with soft play, and accessible by the telecabine Nyon from the car park, ideal for kids.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2020, 11:59:16 am
I have a chance of heading up to Scotland for a couple of days

looks like there may be some snow

I assume the weekend will be busy, so was thinking of heading up Sunday night and sliding Monday and Tuesday

West looking best at the moment. I haven't ever been to Nevis and haven't ridden Glencoe for nearly 30 yrs.

I know there isn't much recent data to go on, but does Nevis have bigger queues?

How are they both for sleeping in the van at the car park?

Any advice other than wait and see what the weather does?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2020, 12:07:26 pm
West is definitely best right now,  both Nevis and Glencoe are fine for car sleeping, access to bogs etc all night and in the morning. i think due to the fire at Xmas you are unlikely to get any breakfast / coffee at Glencoe, but they might have a temporary setup, and tif tickets are / were cash only.

I'd avoid either at the weekend, queues will be bad, maybe a bit better at Nevis if you intend using lift access, but if you intend hiking for some turns on the weekend, Glencoe may have more options.

Otherwise worth a page through the nevis and glencoe offpiste guides for some ideas

http://www.skimountain.co.uk/ski-guidebooks
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2020, 12:09:49 pm
http://www.winterhighland.info/general/

good to keep an eye on.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 28, 2020, 12:17:53 pm
thanks Chris

good info
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2020, 12:27:16 pm
All good, good luck. Would love to join you, but next week might be tricksome..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 28, 2020, 03:02:50 pm
I have a chance of heading up to Scotland for a couple of days

looks like there may be some snow

I assume the weekend will be busy, so was thinking of heading up Sunday night and sliding Monday and Tuesday

West looking best at the moment. I haven't ever been to Nevis and haven't ridden Glencoe for nearly 30 yrs.

I know there isn't much recent data to go on, but does Nevis have bigger queues?

How are they both for sleeping in the van at the car park?

Any advice other than wait and see what the weather does?

What do you want to know? Glencoe was ace to sleep at pre fire, not sure what it's like now. Nevis way, I've always kipped in the van at Torlundy (North Face Car Park).

If "in", the back corries at Nevis are the best lift accessible off piste in Scotland i think. Bit of a schlep back round on a board though, depending on snow cover.

I've only skied Glencoe in lean conditions but it was fun walking down the ridge westwards from Meall A'Bhuridh, up and  over Mam Coire Easain and onto Clach Leathad. North Facing, normally a way in past the cornice and steep at the start, mellowing into a lovely run.

I have the guides if you want any pages copying and sending to you? You are welcome to borrow them but I'm in Manchester so probably no ideal.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 31, 2020, 10:46:58 am
Not looking affa bonnie the noo lagers.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 31, 2020, 11:28:10 am
I'd look at trying both and using Glencoe to break the journey. We had a recent night in the car park at Inveruglas on Loch Lomond, 5+ hrs from Sheff, from where Glencoe is another 50 mins/ Nevis range 1hr 45.

Or push on to the Fort, kip in Torlundy have a day on Nevis, chips/curry in town, park up in Glen Etive or near the Kingshouse, ride Glencoe then drive home from there.

The only time I've ridden the back corries on Nevis you could get back to the middle station with little walking, just a long calf-burning heelside traverse. Fun drop in, does the lift out ever run?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 31, 2020, 11:51:22 am
Braveheart Lift? Yes, any time there is good cover in the back they run it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 31, 2020, 03:37:12 pm
Not looking affa bonnie the noo lagers.

other duties are getting in my way - I probably won't end up being able to go anyway  :(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 31, 2020, 03:43:22 pm
TBH, I think you aren't missing much.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 04, 2020, 01:37:07 pm
Looks like it might be improving a wee bit over the next couple of weeks though. Depends on freezing level....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: rich d on February 06, 2020, 03:03:27 pm
After skiing (I know it's not snowboarding) in the pitch black at Christmas and having signed up to do a night ski in the 3 valleys at feb half term - does anyone have any recommendations for a head torch? My cheapy camping one is ok for skinning and resort, but could do with something better for turns and offpiste stuff. 
Cheers Rich
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2020, 03:22:05 pm
Do you wear a helmet? If you want proper light, you can hook up a couple of CREE bike lights to your lid for some lumens. I've done this and a bit of a fiddle but it works OK, worth figuring out and testing beforehand for best angle though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: rich d on February 06, 2020, 03:25:10 pm
Yep I always wear a helmet nowadays, that's a good call.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 06, 2020, 04:42:15 pm
if you have the ones with the fat elastic bands that go on handlebars you could jury rig them through the vent holes, that's what I manged to do with my R.E.D lid.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 12, 2020, 11:59:18 am
Looks like it might be improving a wee bit over the next couple of weeks though. Depends on freezing level....

Getting even better now. Centres will be hoaching with half term for the next couple of weeks, but non-lift accessed stuff will be good once avi risk subsides.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 25, 2020, 10:39:18 pm
I'm off to Jasna tomorrow

proper butterflies excited to be going boarding again

there's been snow this week and forecast for more

 :bounce:

screen grab from today's web cam

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERp-knCW4AEkGyD.jpg:large)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 28, 2020, 09:42:27 am
Anyone know what Mam Tor gully conditions have been like this week.  I just keep thinking it'll be horrible slush give the state in sheffield, but saw mention of a 'cornice' somewhere on line.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: nik at work on February 28, 2020, 10:49:58 am
Very wet slushy snow in Hathersage right now, mostly turning to water when it hits the ground. There was some nice snow up there on Wednesday but not enough coverage. I’d think it would have deteriorated since then (this is at best slightly informed speculation though).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 28, 2020, 11:10:29 am
Cheers for the beta.

If its ever looking like its in nick (for boarding the gully) I'd really appreciate a heads up. 

Its a bucket list thing for me.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 09, 2020, 10:48:42 pm
I've had another fantastic week in Jasna.
I'll write more when I get some time.
In the meantime, it looks like the Freeride event is going ahead later this week. This should give people a good idea of what is on offer there. The event takes place on the most accessible face - there are plenty of other slopes available.

https://www.jasnaadrenalin.sk/en/
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 10, 2020, 11:12:58 am
I've had another fantastic week in Jasna.
I'll write more when I get some time.
In the meantime, it looks like the Freeride event is going ahead later this week. This should give people a good idea of what is on offer there. The event takes place on the most accessible face - there are plenty of other slopes available.

https://www.jasnaadrenalin.sk/en/

cancelled due to coronavirus
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 13, 2020, 08:35:18 am
Jasna have now closed the resort. Season over for people relying on using the lifts.
Great opportunity for ski tourers and split boarders.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on March 13, 2020, 08:54:24 am
Tyrol announced last night that they're closing all lifts & tourist accommodation after this weekend. They already had a big corona outbreak in Ischgl and a confirmed case in Kitzbühel. Other Austrian states expected to follow suit soon.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 16, 2020, 09:15:33 am
France and Switzerland too.

Glenshee was good fun Friday, not sure how long before they get shut down too. Touring time.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Muenchener on March 16, 2020, 11:25:52 am
Party's over. On Friday the message from Tyrol was "ski season ends this weekend, normal service until Sunday". I had arranged to go skiing with a friend I hadn't seen for a while; we decided to wash our hands and carry on.

On Sunday morning the message was suddenly VISITORS OUT, LOCALS IN LOCKDOWN, NOW !!!!

Dunno what the Austrian government's medical advisers told them between Friday and Sunday, but whatever it was it appears to have scared the shit out of them.

Bavaria declared a state of emergency this morning.

Otoh I went up on the last lift at Sölden yesterday. There must be worse ways to flee the apocalypse than down a deserted piste on immaculate snow in glorious sunshine.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 17, 2020, 03:02:08 pm

Jasna have left some of their webcams switched on, so the rest of us can watch locals touring

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVt-tv-WoAAw_rF.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVZRaUyWAAUF8Px.jpg)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 22, 2020, 09:21:42 am
Travis Rice's new film Dark Matter is free to watch on Prime at the moment. only about half an hour, mostly insanely great big mountain riding footage, and not much flying to crag.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 19, 2020, 11:59:37 pm
I'm not feeling optimistic about this winter.

Even if it does snow in Scotland, it might not be appropriate to drive up there.

I'd appreciate it if someone could sort out a few weeks of decent snow in the Peak District this winter.

Thanks
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: petejh on December 20, 2020, 10:31:24 am
I was looking forward to going ski-touring in France. That plan's just been scuppered by the Welsh lockdown and partner unwilling to break the rules to escape (fair enough). Seemed like maybe the only time in our lives we'd experience all French resorts shut but loads of people out touring - lots of uptracks in the back country, and relatively quiet pistes to enjoy.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 21, 2020, 01:01:41 pm
I saw one forecast for Snowmageddon for Wales, not sure I believe it though.

I've seen some sketchy clips of people touring who normally don't in the Alps and skiing slopes that are normally pisted, or at least controlled, and getting into a lot of trouble. Not saying you will, just I wouldn't want to be near them!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: petejh on December 21, 2020, 03:32:34 pm
I'd love to be in a position to be getting into trouble on some slopes in the alps but Covid looks to have put our plans to the sword.

I can imagine plnty of folk will be spannering themselves touring in the alps this winter. Backcountry avalanches aren't a forgiving mistress. I lived in Canadian rockies for 4 years and ski-toured each winter. The snowpack there is the sketchiest for avy hazard I've encountered anywhere from NZ-Alps-N.America-Scotland. Every winter seemed to start off with a thaw-freeze event that would leave long-lasting weak layer/s deep in the snowpack. So many slide occurrences for so few people out in the backcountry. The carnage in Canada would be eye-popping if they had the numbers touring there that there are in the alps.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 21, 2020, 09:38:36 pm
Colorado has the sketchiest pack I've seen, I'm quite glad I never had touring kit when I worked there, or I expect I would have got into a lot of trouble.


https://avalanche.org/avalanche-accidents/ so far however, the season there hasn't deviated from the norm much.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: petejh on December 21, 2020, 09:49:04 pm
That just from Colorado, or whole of US?

Yeah it’s grim stats from skiing/boarding/snow-mobiling. Seems the activities get more and more popular and the deaths happen every year despite all the improvements in information and technology.
Makes dieting for 9b look safe...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on December 21, 2020, 10:01:57 pm
That just from Colorado, or whole of US?

Yeah it’s grim stats from skiing/boarding/snow-mobiling. Seems the activities get more and more popular and the deaths happen every year despite all the improvements in information and technology.
Makes dieting for 9b look safe...

There was an interesting stat I saw a couple of years ago (presume it still holds true) - but the gist of it was:  "better equipment, education, understanding and training (drills etc.) do not correlate with less deaths"

i.e. the more we know, the more we push and the closer to the danger zone we tread. Certainly tied in with my experience living in the alps.

Man I miss skiing....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: petejh on December 21, 2020, 10:14:48 pm
Yeah I can see that being the mindset. Backcountry skiing/boarding not being an activity that people do because they’re allergic to adrenaline or the lure of travelling into very cool places that are are also objectively hazardous. Could probably observe something similar in many risky activities that get more popular where the tech improves and allows more people to push their limits. Climbing. Paragliding.

I’d be interested to see the stats on how many times people get pulled out alive after using a rebreather, or after deploying an airbag. To see if they’ve made much difference to survivability overall.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: teestub on December 22, 2020, 07:37:09 am
Always seems to be difficult to find death stats for climbing, but it seems like very few people are dying outside of Himalayan and Alpine settings, and even there I would assume there I would assume the death rate has decreased as participation had increased?

Would be interesting to know if there were actually more deaths overall in snow sports, or just an increase in line with participation.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2020, 08:35:54 am
That just from Colorado, or whole of US?

Whole US; locations in Alaska, Washington, California listed, but disproportionate amount in Colorado.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on December 22, 2020, 08:39:02 am
Would be interesting to know if there were actually more deaths overall in snow sports, or just an increase in line with participation.

The easiest stats to look at is the US, as you can cover a lot of resorts/areas thought one data source, be it avalanche deaths or in resort deaths, via the NSSA

The latest NSSA stats show the rate of catastrophic injury* is less than one for every 1 million skier visits.

I don't know if this still holds true but in 2017:

Quote
The average skier death in CO is a thirty-seven years old experienced male skier wearing a helmet who loses control on an intermediate, groomed run and hits a tree. The majority of deaths — 54 percent — occurred on blue, groomed runs, while 31 percent were on expert trails. The increase in the number of people who wear helmets hasn’t resulted in fewer fatalities.

Take off that helmet and stay off the blues folks. (Also, be a woman and snowboard).


*“significant neurological trauma, major head injuries, spinal cord injuries resulting in full or partial paralysis and injuries resulting in the loss of a limb.”
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2020, 08:49:11 am
I was about 35 when I hit a tree on the side on a groomed blue run in Colorado. I wasn't wearing a helmet though!

(In my defence there was a foot of powder hiding a section of hard ice).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Plattsy on December 22, 2020, 09:25:29 am
I'm imagining speed was a major factor here. Blue groomed means "let's go fast and push our limits". The boy racer mentality comes out (I'm talking about the stats not your specific accident Chris).  :)
Of which I've been guilty of many times before and after I started wearing a helmet.
Luckily as a snowboarder fear kicks in at lower speeds than it would if I was skiing.

Hitting a tree hurts.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2020, 09:43:43 am
For sure. Also the nature of many Colorado / US resorts is the runs cut into the trees, which delineate the edge of the run, so plenty of static objects to hit, whereas a lot of Alpine ski terrain is above tree line, with pistes just groomed into the mountainside.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 23, 2020, 08:32:47 am
Re : tree wells, they are less of an issue in the Alps due to a) the nature of the snowfall - very little dry powder of the type you  get in N America, and b) very little "tree skiing" like you get there; as per above, a lot of the skiing is above the tree line, and that which is below, the trees are normally too dense for people to bother, so they stick to the pistes. I have been caught in them a couple of times, and can confirm it is bloody scary, can see why if you were not fit or unused to effor at altitude you would really struggle.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 29, 2020, 08:42:55 pm
Pictures not showing for me.
Possibly a phone issue on my end?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 30, 2020, 04:23:39 pm
Fantastic  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 05, 2021, 08:47:50 am
And also know the "full history" of the snowpack. There was a similar issue with snowpack the year we were in Whistler, which resulted in an in bounds avalanche death earlier in the season.

There are similar issued with the snowpack in Scotland, due to milder spells, but not as significant due, I think, to lower overall volume of snow.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: rich d on January 06, 2021, 09:51:59 am
nothing positive to add, but our short ski break without the kids in Jan has been cancelled, and our feb half term is cancelled too - both to the alps. I know first world problems but still annoying.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 06, 2021, 09:59:01 am
No, it's painful. My yearly ski trip is my sanity for the winter. Hoping and praying we might get away by Easter.

They've just closed the Scottish resorts, in spite of them doing everything they can to comply with regulations - enforcing masking, limiting numbers, spacing on lifts, closing cafes, only selling tickets to people with local address. It's a marginal industry anyway, and the snow is just getting good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 22, 2021, 11:20:23 am
Resort closures in the French Alps continue. I should have been there right now, conditions look excellent too. Naively, never thought it would go on this long.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 22, 2021, 11:24:08 am
I had some turns in powder at Ringinglow last week. More than I manage most years so up already! My Dad has booked for March but looks doubtful.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Andy W on January 22, 2021, 01:09:30 pm
I don't think stations in France will open this year, certainly not for the next holidays in Feb. My nearest station here in the Pyrenees, has just said in all 'probability they won't open this year at all'.

Never mind  :) Snowshoes or split boards make for a much better experience.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 22, 2021, 01:26:01 pm
I had some turns in powder at Ringinglow last week. More than I manage most years so up already! My Dad has booked for March but looks doubtful.

We've had practically sod al here, must be one of few places. Holding faint hope for Easter, but it's very faint. Must be apoint where it's not worth them opening up.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2021, 02:48:54 pm
Got to feel fir Scottish ski resorts. Best snow in years, still not allowed to open up.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 05, 2021, 04:34:55 pm
I was really hoping for a slight easing mid Feb, then maybe we'd get some skiing but it seems like March is the soonest possible...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2021, 04:51:40 pm
Yeah, not good. You got out touring? What area are you in now?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 06, 2021, 11:50:14 am
Yeah, not good. You got out touring? What area are you in now?

Perthshire, no. Haven't felt that driving 45 mins+ was justified when I can just go running here. Might next week if the weather here is so shit that going high into the snow makes more sense. Also given the steady increase in vaccinations and decrease in cases. I mean it's not outwith the rules, just more on the "recreation" end and less on the "exercise".
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 06, 2021, 12:23:06 pm
My new snowboard is in the post... Guess I need snow shoes too! Anyone got any recommendations?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Andy W on February 06, 2021, 01:26:24 pm
My new snowboard is in the post... Guess I need snow shoes too! Anyone got any recommendations?


These are what I went for last winter, still going strong. Although the bag provided is useful, it's not great for carrying a snowboard, so best look round for a bag as well.

https://www.msrgear.com/ie/snowshoes/trail-series/evo-trail-snowshoe-kit/10720.html
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 06, 2021, 08:23:46 pm
The way I carry my board works well with any rucksack.
 If the rest of the family ever stop arguing for long enough, I'll post more details.
 >:(
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 07, 2021, 09:48:45 pm
Your timing really sucks andy, I just sold two pairs two weeks ago that I never use.

Went on family walk in the woods yesterday for a bit of sledging, took board along, but there were no pitches steep enough for either, snow is sitting at least a foot deep above 150m. Crazy amounts.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 08, 2021, 08:55:45 am
Looks like absolutely nowhere has any snowshoes in stock  ::)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2021, 01:12:32 pm
looks like it.

Hiked a local field (below Cranhill) and got some lunchtime turns in. Sun has got to snow and it's getting a bit slower than it was last night. Owt is better than nowt though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 10, 2021, 01:20:10 pm
UKC news headline "SA Chris accidentally makes first snowboard descent of Underbelly"
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2021, 01:49:20 pm
If Chris Akrigg can do a descent of Early Riser on his MTB, why not? That field is stubble right now, and not holding snow, west of the old barn is better
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: tomtom on February 10, 2021, 01:58:18 pm
Looks like absolutely nowhere has any snowshoes in stock  ::)

Have you tried making some? (plywood - some slots for some straps. Maybe the odd nail/screw sticking out etc.. or something more elaborate with some small nailed on wooden battens for grip etc..) Bet they would work fine for just tramping back up a slope with a board.... (ie not a mission critical 20mile do or die trip across the frozen wastes of wherever).

In University (early 90's) I made a pair of plywood 'footprints' to stiffen a softer soled walking boot to take a solid (not clip on) crampon. sandwiched between the boot and the crampon they worked pretty well (only came off once - in a non critical moment). I probably wouldnt do it again, but it worked!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: webbo on February 10, 2021, 02:08:31 pm
Looks like absolutely nowhere has any snowshoes in stock  ::)

Have you tried making some? (plywood - some slots for some straps. Maybe the odd nail/screw sticking out etc.. or something more elaborate with some small nailed on wooden battens for grip etc..) Bet they would work fine for just tramping back up a slope with a board.... (ie not a mission critical 20mile do or die trip across the frozen wastes of wherever).

In University (early 90's) I made a pair of plywood 'footprints' to stiffen a softer soled walking boot to take a solid (not clip on) crampon. sandwiched between the boot and the crampon they worked pretty well (only came off once - in a non critical moment). I probably wouldnt do it again, but it worked!
A couple of tennis rackets.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 10, 2021, 02:12:04 pm
A couple of tennis rackets.

I did genuinely consider this...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: webbo on February 10, 2021, 02:14:12 pm
It worked when they did it in the Beano.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2021, 02:53:57 pm
do you have the DIY skills to convert it to a splitty using a Voile kit? https://www.voile.com/voile-split-kit-diy.html (if you can find one in stock)

Too scary for me to even contemplate!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2021, 10:29:34 pm
local hill this morning

https://vimeo.com/510891930
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2021, 11:15:30 pm
Good stuff lagers.

Just hiked a local hill in Durris Forest by the landrover track, and did a headtorch powder descent of a pylon line on some of the best snow I've ridden on in Scotland. Great fun. Looking forward to Saturday.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 10, 2021, 11:31:12 pm
I got out again with the kids this afternoon

I had a few turns in good snow; some big falls due to ice, rocks and streams, but it was worth it
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 12, 2021, 07:57:41 pm
Possibly of help to people struggling with getting to sleep.
A typical Jasna day of poor viz, high winds and consequently some decent wind blown snow.

I love these sorts of decents. Like Scotland, but bigger and better.

(Last year)

https://vimeo.com/509580002
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fiend on March 01, 2021, 08:49:05 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELnMzXYPkw
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 01, 2021, 10:50:00 am
Read the report, sounds like it was mega sketch.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Andy W on March 20, 2021, 08:51:19 am
Help! someone please tell me I am idiot. It's snowing here in the Pyrenees, only problem is I had a meniscotomy 18 days ago, my knee feels fine and I am very, very tempted.

Wife says 'do what you want' but I don't think she means it!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 20, 2021, 09:57:27 am
Imagine the consequences of hitting a hidden rock/tree stump/ice block
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Andy W on March 20, 2021, 01:32:32 pm
common sense has prevailed  ;)

Probably not enough snow at the spot I wanted to go anyhow. Hopefully for the sake of my knees, that's it for this season.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 22, 2021, 08:45:28 am
Might it feel like it now, but was probably the best option in the long run.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Andy W on March 22, 2021, 08:53:32 am
Might it feel like it now, but was probably the best option in the long run.

Yes your'e right! the pain of missing good conditions tho, like missing good surf. At least rocks generally stay put!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 22, 2021, 08:58:55 am
'tis but a fleetin' thing, that's part of the appeal.

Been looking at photos of backcountry stuff getting done here and thinking it looks good, and then reminding myself that the last time I was out with skis and boots on backpack and mountain bike to reach snow was knackering, it's now a month later and a lot worse! Shame I can't get to Cairngorm, only place where it looks like you can still get an almost decent day out.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 22, 2021, 01:10:13 pm
OK, might not be over yet..

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gfjed570x#?date=2021-03-28
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2021, 09:12:30 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ME_hvlaf7I

Watch this on the biggest screen you can access, some amazing visuals.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2021, 09:40:18 am
Not surprised.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 13, 2022, 09:45:39 pm
We're on our first family snow holiday.
Our ten year old, at the end of his second day on an actual snowy mountain asked "can skiing ever be as joyful as snowboarding?"
He went on to enthuse about the joy of doing simple turns on a board.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who can remember discovering that feeling
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 14, 2022, 08:13:02 am
Great, where are you?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 14, 2022, 03:55:21 pm
Jasna
Slovakia
Fourth trip here. First with the family.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 14, 2022, 05:18:35 pm
Ace.

Has anyone skied in Norway much? Thinking of it for Easter family trip, possible Geilo or Hemsedal. Kids will be in lessons for a bit, concerned language might be an issue, and expensive eating.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 14, 2022, 05:25:01 pm
Ace.

Has anyone skied in Norway much? Thinking of it for Easter family trip, possible Geilo or Hemsedal. Kids will be in lessons for a bit, concerned language might be an issue, and expensive eating.

Only Ski touring in Lyngen. Yes, it costs a fair bit to eat out and even more to drink. I doubt language will be an issue, Aberdonian is close enough to English that they should be able to figure it out  ;)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 14, 2022, 06:27:27 pm
Cheers, I think I'll take a bottle of single malt and fill any room in the case with Ramen noodles.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 20, 2022, 09:12:07 pm
Quote from: link=topic=8208.msg655272#msg655272 date=1645071793
We're on our first family snow holiday.
Our ten year old, at the end of his second day on an actual snowy mountain asked "can skiing ever be as joyful as snowboarding?"
He went on to enthuse about the joy of doing simple turns on a board.

Lovely.

Somewhat analogously a week ago I had both sons (now 14 and 22) out on splitboards in the Whistler backcountry together for the first time to celebrate son #1's birthday with a tiny cake+candle in a glacier bowl and then a hilarious descent of the sorta-steep Husume couloir where both were getting air off side hits as if it were a blue run in the resort (I am side-slipping and clutching an ice axe ready to arrest in the same terrain). Nice to see them both sharing the pure enjoyment of riding especially as son #2 has just exited a harrowing few years in the cliquey world of slopestyle competitions/ training.

That's brilliant!

During our week away, I managed a whole day without the kids.
Better than that, I was accompanied by my old Argentiere room mate, Casty.
We spent the whole day doing steepish off piste in good weather and we even managed to find some good snow.
It's something like 25 years since we had a day out together like that. Fortunately, my route choices turned out to be spot on; resulting in first tracks down a few big lines.
I'm going back on 7th March  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on February 23, 2022, 11:21:06 am
Selling my non-touring setup as I don't need it any more. I know some of you partake, so thought I'd get it up here before bunging it on eBay.

Lib Tech Orca 156. Seriously good backcountry board, would split it myself if I had the skills, and could figure a way to attach skins to that nose profile. Barely used, less than 10 times. Beautiful thing. Cat not included. £400.
(https://ancientshorelines.files.wordpress.com/2022/02/fmrpnaqxsaiqbyh.jpg)

ThirtyTwo Lashed Bradshaw pro model. Great freestyle boot, too small for me really. Not heat moulded, although they can be. Used probably a dozen times, including some big days touring where it proved they were too small for me (hammer toe!). £100.
(https://ancientshorelines.files.wordpress.com/2022/02/fmrryz2xeacqdyi.jpg)

Drop me a line if you fancy either/both/want more details. Ta.


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 03, 2022, 09:22:20 am
https://vimeo.com/683971653

I am, yet again, reminded how difficult it is to get snowboarding to look as good as it feels

the line in the snow that shows up occasionally is a climbers foot/axe prints
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 09, 2022, 08:48:34 pm
Anyone up on current board options? I bought mine with a student loan in 1999 so it's about time. Not riding park or switch, prefer off piste if possible, but realistically 80% piste cruising with skiers. So probably something towards the directional freeride end.

Deals that caught my eye on Burton Skeleton Key and Jones Frontier. A lot of the other brands Ive never heard of... any insight appreciated.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Yossarian on March 09, 2022, 09:59:32 pm
I know absolutely nothing about snowboarding (or snowboards), but a mate launched this - https://www.backdropjournal.com (https://www.backdropjournal.com) not long ago and I think it's great. Nice photography and films, and the podcast is good too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 09, 2022, 10:38:38 pm
No help I'm afraid, I too should probably replace my Burton Baron 167 from about 2006, but daunted by choices.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on March 09, 2022, 11:23:07 pm
Pretty sure you wont go far wrong with a Jones Frontier.

Seems to have been a bit shift in 'shapes', rocker, etc etc.  Not sure what it all means.   I bought a 'signal' off a mate of a mate in about 2018 as he imports them and got a good price. Fairly standard twin tip affair, aimed as a bit of an all rounder.  It instantly felt a million times better than the early 2000's board I had. Turns so well and has loads of pop for ollies.

I think the biggest changes have been in off piste board shapes.  Lots of spoon noses with lots or rocker like the Jones Mind expander.  Mate has one of those and they look increadible off piste, and whislt rideable, not that good on piste and certainly hopeless in the park.

Just picked up a Jones Solution Spltiboard but not had chance to use it ... yet! If we can get our sons flippin covid jab situation sorted, we're off to Tignes at Easter. (Loooong story)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 09, 2022, 11:39:09 pm
Anyone up on current board options? I bought mine with a student loan in 1999 so it's about time. Not riding park or switch, prefer off piste if possible, but realistically 80% piste cruising with skiers. So probably something towards the directional freeride end.

Deals that caught my eye on Burton Skeleton Key and Jones Frontier. A lot of the other brands Ive never heard of... any insight appreciated.

I'm pretty out of date these days. I shied away from anything too specific when I got my last board (3/4 years ago?), as I mainly ski but like to mess around on powder days when not touring etc.

I rented a few boards, and off the back of that got myself a Slash Brainstorm - it's rated as an low-intermediate to mid-advanced level, but I think that does it a disservice. Yes, it's easy to ride, like....just automatic...but it also has the biggest landing sweetspot I've had on any board - not more nose-dive cartwheels when doing drops into powder.

It's got neither the float of a true powder board, or the edge hold of a stiffer freeride. It's not a park jibber. It's just a really fun, really accessible all rounder.

If you really like to charge through chop, or hit big lines it might not be enough of a board. I guess what I'm saying is that it's good to know what you actually need and what your style is before researching.

It's a rocker tip/tail with camber underfoot, which is probably the best combo for most folks. Sam's suggestion looks like it fits the same bill. (Jones can sometimes be a bit *too* full on for a lot of people? but very good boards)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 10, 2022, 10:22:14 am
Thanks peeps that's all really useful.

Been reading/ watching lots on here, useful resource: https://thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/

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Jones can sometimes be a bit *too* full on

Can you expand on that? Assuming you mean a bit stiff, for charging hard at speed etc? At the mo the Burton Skeleton key looks to have the better reviews but the Jones Frontier seems solid even if their 'budget' model. Much better looking too.

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Just picked up a Jones Solution Splitboard but not had chance to use it

Very nice! The other part of the equation is I if I bought another board it would be something like this, so I can perhaps afford to get something shorter and more messing about on piste oriented for now. Son is 9 and on skis so will be a few years before he's shredding the gnarr such I can't keep up. Current board (Burton Fluid) is a bit big for me and more powder oriented too so won't go in the bin. Dropping in to Piste des alpacas has taken it's toll on the edges tho...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 10, 2022, 10:37:00 am
Never bin it if there's any life left! My Burton Canyon from my first season in the US (2003) is my go to Scottish board, and gets used in local fields and forests when the snow is about. My Baron is now permanently in France, as I ski tour most of the time in Scotland now.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 10, 2022, 12:10:07 pm


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Jones can sometimes be a bit *too* full on

Can you expand on that? Assuming you mean a bit stiff, for charging hard at speed etc? At the mo the Burton Skeleton key looks to have the better reviews but the Jones Frontier seems solid even if their 'budget' model. Much better looking too.


I can't comment on specific models, as I've not tried them - I just know from previous experience that people often (me included) over-rate their ability and either go for a "park play deck" despite the fact they probably just pop the odd 180, or they (me) think they're a free-ride monster who should be in the FWT...

I ended up going for a 7/10 flex boot instead of the stiffer ones (Salomon Malamute?) and even then it took my a whole to break them in to a point where I found them sensitive enough. Same with the board - my old board (Ride Timeless) was so stiff (and a little small) that i just had a horrid time in soft snow as I had to hit mach 10 to flex it enough to stop it submarining and nose-diving.

Sounds like that Jones Frontier would not stray into the "too burly" category anyway, I'd certainly be looking at that one for me now if I was considering replacing. I'm lucky if I board 5 days a year now, so just don't something that takes a few days to find the groove off at the start of a trip.

Had the same on skis, my touring setup was Volkl Mantras, but when they died I went for basically the same ski without the titanal topsheets, as they just had a slightly more forgiving flex for tired legs at the end of the day navigating icy bumps or whatever.

We all love to think we're Jeremy Jones or whatever, but it doesn't mean we'll actually enjoy riding something lie hits:

https://www.jonessnowboards.com/snowboarding/211-445-ultra-flagship.html#/63-size-158

A mate of mine had a funny exchange (actually, this type of thing happened quite often) when trying to talk a rich father (Russian, almost held back on saying that as I'm not sure it's that relevant - anyway, you know they type) down from buying his beginner son the £1200 carbon monsters that would ruin his week, and potentially his entire ski life... 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 10, 2022, 04:45:43 pm
Many thanks. With that in mind, I've ordered the Skeleton Key 154. Lots of last season bargains here: https://www.ldmountaincentre.com/sale/snowboard-c23/equipment-c89
Probably did the right thing as it has since disappeared suggesting only 1 in stock.

Shop blurb: The Burton Snowboards Skeleton Key is a directional shaped all mountain freeride stick with a setback camber, rockered nose and tapered shape.  With a forgiving, responsive ride, heaps of float and flow in powder and solid responsive turns on groomers the Skeleton Key will unlock a whole heap freeride possibilities. If you're an intermediate/advanced freerider looking to progress your riding to the next level the Skeleton Key is just what you’re looking for.
Review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zEKpj8Jfqg

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 10, 2022, 07:58:35 pm
Sorry JB, I missed all this due to snowboarding.
You made a good choice.

I would also recommend looking at Angry Snowboarder reviews when making choices.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 16, 2022, 02:32:42 pm
I had two snowboarding trips this year - one with the family and one on my own. Both to Jasna, Slovakia.
I got lucky with the weather and had a lot of fun.
I even managed to get a photo of the Low Tatras from my seat on the plane on the way home - most of the big descents I did marked in red. A satisfying, if low quality, image. 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN6nnm9WQAY2HfI?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 16, 2022, 03:03:23 pm
Looks great. Still hoping for a family trip at Easter after boys trip in January. Hoping something last minute comes up that doesn't destroy us financially.

From your pics on IG etc it looks like descents are shorter than central Alps, possibly a bit less committing, verging on Scottish? Not that that is a criticism btw.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 16, 2022, 03:13:44 pm
Yes.
Require less fitness than big alpine stuff.
Typically 250 to 300m vert for the main couloirs plus the same again for the more gentle run out. Still possible to do a full 1000m descent off piste.
No glaciers to cross. No altitude issues (2000m).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: CrimpyMcCrimpface on November 28, 2022, 02:47:54 pm
Can anyone recommend a good snowsuit, or snowsuit brand, for an 18 month old? All those that I've seen seem to be fit for a UK winter but not for anything alpine. We're going to Kopaonik (https://www.skiresort.info/uploads/tx_mgskiresort/kopaonik.jpg) in January and though it doesn't seem to get colder than -10C I guess I should probably prepare the bean for cold. We have a waterproof oversuit which I was thinking to put over anything so it doesn't need to be mega heavy duty - but better than a fashion pramsuit would be good.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 28, 2022, 02:54:16 pm
We had kids in Spotty Otter suits from day 1. Son was fine in his for outdoor walks, pram etc. Bear in mind we had a very cold snowy winter (comparable with alpine weather) when he was born (Xmas day 2009).

PS keep an eye on second hand - we definitely didn't buy new!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on November 28, 2022, 03:33:31 pm

2nd that.. spotty otter stuff is proper Gucci.. we had some excellent stuff from them when they were groms.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: CrimpyMcCrimpface on November 29, 2022, 04:16:13 pm
Nice thanks for the recommendation. Seem to be exactly what we're looking for but yep agree it will have to be 2nd hand. Fortunately can see a few on ebay..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on November 29, 2022, 04:28:33 pm
Now I think about it, we may have got it at an NCT nearly new sale. Wife used to help out so got first dibs. Worth buying this kind of stuff out of season if you can take a guess at child's growth rate.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 30, 2023, 04:44:19 pm
Off chance anyone is in and about Haute Savoie from Thursday, and fancies some turns / beers. Will do the usual Portes du Soleil / Grand Massif / somewhere near Cham circuit.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 14, 2023, 03:08:14 pm
It's a shame I didn't get good off piste conditions this year, but this bit of 360 video of piste cruising has turned out OK

best viewed in 4k definition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3RbMB2adV0&t=49s
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 21, 2023, 10:45:20 am
more hillwalking than snowboarding - but it is nice to be able to look around on the 360 video

I didn't realise that I spend so much time smiling when I'm in the hills on my own. Makes sense as I usually feel really happy up there even when the weather is terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOE3yvFyR0Q&t=334s
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 24, 2023, 06:48:55 pm
no new snow and wind in the same direction for 14 days - still, it was worth a shot

the sound tells you everything you need to know about the snow

as a proof of concept, I guess I have at least worked out a way of filming myself

my laces in my back boot broke near the top and a couple of days later I realised that my high backs were set way too far back for some stupid reason - still, nice to be out

video from the first half is a result of letting the Insta360 software track me from the 360 video - the gyroscope in the original had got a bit confused by my becoming weightless on steep turns

second half is the camera set in "me mode"

both using a 3rd party (cheap from China) long selfie stick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjKR8sJ-jvU
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 28, 2023, 08:01:29 pm
Some better snow from 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlNc6UGonMk
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 29, 2023, 09:26:16 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ2sqJ219eI
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 29, 2023, 11:48:55 pm
Next in my series of things not going to plan.
Desperately looking for soft powder despite the facts pointing to something else.
I tend to use descents like this as a way of learning more about the slopes in anticipation of better snow - even if that means heading down in worse weather.


https://youtu.be/qzZiYTyr6_s
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 31, 2023, 11:52:02 am
from Feb 2022

the start to a rather good day

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ui4r9iFP5II
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 31, 2023, 01:00:15 pm
Great vids Rob
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 05, 2023, 11:56:45 am
 :???:Amazing deal on the 2021/2 version of my board on the Burton site today - Skeleton Key for £204 (https://www.burton.com/gb/en/c/mens-sale-snowboarding?prefn1=ph2&prefv1=Snowboards). I really like it, it's obviously not a park board but is loads of fun on everything and an automatic dream in the powder. NB they size a bit smaller than most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zEKpj8Jfqg
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 05, 2023, 12:12:57 pm
Says £459 for the Skeleton Key? I keep threatening to replace mine, but hard to justify for the 3 or 4 days a year it gets used. Maybe I'll do it irreparable harm sometime.  Also the seem to go up in price £100 every time I look; My current Burton Baron 168 seemed expensive when i bought it, but then I realise it was 19 years ago.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on July 05, 2023, 12:17:42 pm
Oooooohh... Am on the lookout for a new board for the coming season - not had a directional board since my 1992 Craig Kelly Air tho. What's it like riding switch? Not into park or owt like that these days but do like to pop 180 from time to time and ride switch for a bit... Also the review seems to indicate that it loses grip on hard/icy terrain, how'd you find that?

Sounds like a right bargain tho...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 05, 2023, 12:40:48 pm
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Says £459 for the Skeleton Key?

That's the 2022/3 model. Scroll on, or clicky here (https://www.burton.com/gb/en/p/mens-burton-skeleton-key-camber-snowboard/W22-222511.html?cgid=mens-sale-snowboarding).

It's totally fine riding switch, surprisingly so given how it looks but it's quite cleverly shaped - on piste the asymmetrical tails don't actually do anything, and the sidecut is more centred on the stance than it appears. OTOH it is quite tapered, which is presumably why it's very hard to catch an edge riding normally, so ought to make it more twitchy switch but I've not had an issue.

I pop lots of 180's, go through the park with the kids and regularly ride switch for full blue runs (matching ten year-old skier speed) but ultimately I went for a board that more usefully reflects the 90/10 time split than a twin-tip. For me the performance boost for carving and powder has been well worth it. The auto mode in powder was just amazing the first time I hit some deep - the taper, tails and set-back all add together to work in your favour. Just a really fun board.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on July 05, 2023, 12:56:05 pm
Got it cheers. Annoyingly I would need to replace old school bindings too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 05, 2023, 01:30:32 pm
You can just get new discs  (https://www.burton.com/gb/en/c/mens-spare-parts)surely?

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Also the review seems to indicate that it loses grip on hard/icy terrain, how'd you find that?

Soz, forgot. I've had no problems, and this year that included charging a big icy black back to the resort each day while the kids took the bubble. Bear in mind the reviewer is comparing to the new board with the wavy/ disrupted sidecut 'magnatraction etc' which I've never used -  I'm sure they'd be much better, as might a bigger, stiffer board, but I don't seek such terrain out as a rule and it is more than up to the job when I encounter it. If I lived somewhere where it was a regular thing I might choose differently. Likewise with 'really pointing it' there may be better boards out there but I've been as fast as I dared on this board  (~57mph) and at no point felt like it couldn't be trusted.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on July 05, 2023, 02:01:43 pm
Sounds great!

Might just stick a 158 on the ole CC and wait for the snow (and not tell the Mrs ;))!

Cheers...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 05, 2023, 02:13:37 pm
 :2thumbsup: At that price you really can't go wrong... I'm tempted to get a spare!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on July 05, 2023, 02:35:43 pm
Done - you should rep for Burton  :lol:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 20, 2023, 01:32:32 pm
Just bought a splitty... frothing now, anyone else yearning for turning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn-VV8JMgiM
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 20, 2023, 02:44:19 pm
Give me a shout if you're heading north for splitboard fun times!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on December 20, 2023, 03:35:55 pm
Up for some splitter action! Got a week in Tignes booked in March.. sans family and back country top of the agenda. Frothing doesn't come close.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 20, 2023, 04:26:04 pm
I've not got a splitty, but happy to associate with them when out touring! Like andy_e, shout if you are up. Going to be in Les Arcs last week of Jan, Alps are looking like mid Feb conditions already, hope it holds.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 20, 2023, 10:38:40 pm
Just bought a splitty... frothing now, anyone else yearning for turning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn-VV8JMgiM

What did you get?

We have a multi family trip to Jasna booked again. This will be the boy child's third week on snow and probably ready for the good stuff - got another transceiver and shovel and we have started doing rescue practice.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 21, 2023, 10:21:37 am
Give me a shout if you're heading north for splitboard fun times!

Will do - are you in Inverness? Keep me posted on conditions...

Up for some splitter action! Got a week in Tignes booked in March.. sans family and back country top of the agenda. Frothing doesn't come close.

Sounds great, My Dad was in Val d'Isere last week, plenty of snow. We're booked for Trois Vallees at Easter but keen to get a non-family trip in earlier... you got a split then?


I've not got a splitty, but happy to associate with them when out touring! Like andy_e, shout if you are up. Going to be in Les Arcs last week of Jan, Alps are looking like mid Feb conditions already, hope it holds.

Will do! Had a great time in Les Arcs two years back.

Quote from: lagerstarfish
What did you get?

Amplid Surf Shuttle 157. Been holding out for the tech to mature a bit for a long time and it really feels like we're there now. Everyone is making them, so was inclined to go for a more specialist brand. I'm totally sold on directional boards now and it seemed crazy to have a less directional split. That ruled out a lot of stuff.

Shortlist:

Dreamscape (decathlon) - very hard to ignore this option, board and skins available to click and collect a short walk from work for a mere £450. Haven't seen any bad reviews.

Korua Shapes - love what these swiss guys are doing (see above vid) and a few of their boards were tempting (Pencil & Transition finder probably), but most are only in two sizes small or large.

Borealis Koi - another smaller alps-based brand making very nice boards, Koi looks perfect for me, very tempting.

Went with Amplid mainly on price in the end. The outlet on their website (https://www.amplid.com/cat/index/sCategory/524) sells last season's boards at >40% off and the package +skins is basically free. New board laden with tech and skins included for £575 shipped. DEAL. Was a bit concerned it might be a B-grade board, was relieved when it wasn't, after a few days realised it might be but the issues are so small they are hard to detect and entirely cosmetic. Reading about the brand and the founder/ designer Peter Bauer gives me a lot of confidence in the board too. Interview here (https://www.amplid.com/blog/source-magazine-interview-amplid-s-peter-bauer), great podcast here (https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/snowboard-reviews/ep-55-peter-bauer-on-the-past-present-future-of-snowboarding). Also, top of Whitelines splitboard of the year  (https://whitelines.com/snowboard-gear/reviews/best-buys/best-splitboards.html)shortlist. In the flesh it seems quite big with a lot less tail rocker compared to the Skeleton Key.

Bindings - I've been Burton step-in/ step-on for twenty five years so only really one (very new) option without carting two pairs of boots about. Not normally an early adopter but very impressed with the Burton x Spark step on bindings so far, a world away from the janky Karakoram x Voile setup I hired only a few years back. No higher than my normal bindings, totally solid and really slick to change over. You can also get pucks for normal boards so an option to take both boards and one set of bindings. In the future I can see I might want a more tech sole for crampons etc which might change things. Spark pucks and crampons brought the total to £1220.

Quote from: lagerstarfish
got another transceiver and shovel and we have started doing rescue practice

Avvy gear is next on the list - what did you go for?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 21, 2023, 10:25:17 am
Give me a shout if you're heading north for splitboard fun times!

Will do - are you in Inverness? Keep me posted on conditions...


Yep. There were some good early season scenes but it's been warm and/or windy recently so it might well be a bit grey up there. Snow set to return in the next couple of days...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 21, 2023, 10:51:34 am
Yep, was hoping the temps would be a bit lower, but no such luck. Warm rain has stripped it all back again https://www.ski-glenshee.co.uk/Webcam
But as andy said, looking to drop off again.

Andy, did you grab one of the new "Ski Touring in Northern Cairngorms". I missed the last print run, but looks like they are doing another. Just put an order in.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 21, 2023, 11:12:43 am
Yeah I've just ordered one too. Finger crossed, I have a van at the mo so short trips are a possibility.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: andy_e on December 21, 2023, 11:37:17 am
Ah no I hadn't seen that! Thanks for the beta.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 21, 2023, 12:50:13 pm
Cool. Anyone who fancies southern cairngorms give me a shout. No shiny new guide, but some good info here https://www.steepscotland.info/southern_Cairngorms/ or pick my brains.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on December 21, 2023, 01:49:38 pm
 :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 21, 2023, 06:33:01 pm
Avvy gear is next on the list - what did you go for?

second hand Ortovox Zoom + . It's a massive improvement on my old F1

you are welcome to borrow transceiver/shovel/axe/probe from me before you sort your own

https://beaconreviews.com/ is very useful if you are looking at buying an older/used transceiver
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 21, 2023, 06:39:31 pm

Quote from: lagerstarfish
What did you get?

Amplid Surf Shuttle 157.

my mate Graham loves his Amplid Dada and he's pretty fussy about kit

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 22, 2023, 11:29:33 am
Avvy gear is next on the list - what did you go for?

second hand Ortovox Zoom + . It's a massive improvement on my old F1

you are welcome to borrow transceiver/shovel/axe/probe from me before you sort your own

https://beaconreviews.com/ is very useful if you are looking at buying an older/used transceiver

Thanks! I've got access to an F1 but was planning on getting something new, hadn't really considered used. Will check reviews...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 22, 2023, 11:49:16 am
I need to replace my antiquated BCA Tracker!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 22, 2023, 09:41:16 pm
I am often asked why I bother carrying avi gear with me when I spend most of my time on the hill on my own.
If I do meet up with other people, I don't take bigger risks, but the idea of seeing someone get buried and not being able to have a good go at finding them and digging them out really bothers me.
Having tried a more modern tranciever and finding out how much better they are for finding other beacons, I a little bit embarrassed that I didn't get one sooner.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: El Mocho on December 23, 2023, 10:42:05 am
It amazes me how little 'safety' equipment the average skier/boarder has with them. As someone who is normally pretty gung ho in outdoor situations it feels a bit odd for me to be the safety conscience one. I guess I had a few times when I was younger which made me appreciate having kit with us - stuck on chair lifts for 30 mins, missed lifts etc. I carry avi stuff every time I go skiing, on piste or not. My wife and kid will have transceivers but for normal piste based days won't have shovel and probe (they don't carry a bag all the time). I also have a boothy bag, a pair of spare gloves, balaclavas, sweets, head torch and small first aid kit and then depending on weather/plans more spare clothing, food and a bunch of the time I'll have my skins in the bag as well. I've prob skied with a bag on every time for the last 15 years or so and don't notice it when skiing at all (it's a pain on chair lifts, embarrassingly there was a time when I was leaving it on my back on the lifts and it got caught when exiting at the top and they had to stop the lift, good encouragement to take it off again)

Adam - I have BCA tracker 2's (2 of) and a less good one and your welcome to borrow 1 of those at any time. Ditto shovel and probe. It sounds like transceivers have moved on a bit since I got them, but I don't think they are terrible - the site largers linked gives them an ok review.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on December 24, 2023, 10:26:27 pm
Also people who carry no repair kit. I now always carry as a minimum a decent multitool, 3 or 4 cable ties, about 6 ft of gaffer tape wound onto a stub of a pencil, about 30cm of thin wire, some cord and a pen knife. Learned the hard way when I've lost the heel piece off a pair of crap hire touring skis coming up from Loch Avon Basin to the top of t-Sneachda, and it's a long slow walk back down carrying skis, even on a nice day. Won't make that mistake again.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on December 27, 2023, 12:38:52 pm
Good knowledge out there.. cheers for the link to the transeiver review page. 

I've had an old Mammut Barryvox 3000 for ever and ever.  https://beaconreviews.com/Specs_BarryvoxOpto3000.php
Pretty old tech now. Only 2 Antt. but would still work I'm sure. 

I have a Peips DPS sport  https://beaconreviews.com/Specs_PiepsDSPSport.php on long term loan from a mate who never boards anymore,

And a coulple of years ago bought a couple of Ortovox Zoom+ for my boys, (wish I'd know about the review site) but happy with the choice as the decision was based on simplicity to use. I just wanted the whole family to be wearing them as I have seen avalanche tracks set off by off pisters above actually cover over pistes and why not just be wearing something that could save their lives.

Was going to take the ortovox away with me this year, but having read the reviews, will be reaching for the Peips now.  Must re-familiarise myself with all the functions again.  (And test it as per the recall notes  :o)

Re board, Yes Adam, got a Jones Solution 2016 cheap on Ebay (200 quid with skins), couple of dinks and oldish tech but will do me for my skill level, Bargain! Bought me some Union Explorer bindings to go with it which I love, dead straight foward to swap over and feel very much like normal binding.

Bang up for some trips oop North if peeps want a team. Or even in the peak if conditions allow - has been on my bucket list to get down Mam Tor Gully for a long long time now.  Been out numerous times and its not been in nick..  >:(

Ordered myself that cairngorms guide.  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on December 27, 2023, 12:44:43 pm
Also people who carry no repair kit. I now always carry as a minimum a decent multitool, 3 or 4 cable ties, about 6 ft of gaffer tape wound onto a stub of a pencil, about 30cm of thin wire, some cord and a pen knife. Learned the hard way when I've lost the heel piece off a pair of crap hire touring skis coming up from Loch Avon Basin to the top of t-Sneachda, and it's a long slow walk back down carrying skis, even on a nice day. Won't make that mistake again.

Yeah,, this!!  I've always carried leatherman with pliars, multi screwdriver thing,  cable ties and a selection of bolts that match any bolts on my bindings.  Might add some gaffa tape.cord too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on December 28, 2023, 12:09:21 am
When I was working in a gear shop staff seemed to make good use of the trade account for ordering transceivers at trade price. Mammut seemed like what everyone went for. I'm not sure if you buy any kit from them already?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on December 28, 2023, 09:40:49 am
Funny you should say that.. mine came from someone working at DMM at the time but had access to a Mammut trade account.  :lol:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 11, 2024, 10:56:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO3CkZDT9iw
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on January 12, 2024, 11:40:32 am

Add me to the list of the potential touring/split buddies! I also grabbed a copy of the new touring guide.

Re transceivers, if anyone is breaking out an F1 (please don't, get a new modern transceiver) at least check it for frequency drift (they are notorious for it). Better still, get yourself a new modern 3 antennae one! Most modern ones are pretty good, as always, you need to know your specific transceiver and how best to use it. I've got a Barryvox* and think it's excellent. Most up to date testing (of new/new-ish beacons) is the DAV 2022 beacon test, result here:

https://www.alpenverein.de/artikel/avalanche-transceiver-test-2022_056975e6-ba9d-4ba1-8d1d-423581ad1e5c

*No trade account, had to stump up my hard earned!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 12, 2024, 11:45:46 am
I've just ordered a Barryvox kit. There are a few European shops that have them on sale, unlike the UK where you seem to pay extra.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 18, 2024, 10:37:40 pm
Anyone seen this

POV
https://youtu.be/ooG6tovMKJM?si=LB6tI1Reo1scv8Un

Same run from the drone
https://youtu.be/nePJR93Plqo?si=TXygkDMGLYhMDjfu

Assume it's not been shot in theCairngorms :lol:

Orgasmic.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 18, 2024, 11:44:49 pm
Forgetting about the skill level required, I have a rough idea of how it feels to try that hard and I struggle to think how it feels to keep that up for four minutes.
That's a lot of work on the back leg!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 19, 2024, 11:03:45 pm
Yeah.. totally.. love the live sound (barring the horrendous drone noises) of him clearly working really hard... And the little squeek when he needs avoid the tree.  :lol:

I bet his thighs were burning  :strongbench:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on January 21, 2024, 11:37:53 am
Been doing a bit of looking into a last minute trip (probably last week in Feb) and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions?

Not bothererd where but got a few requirements as going with 2 well experienced mates and I'm 30+ years in so we're looking for:

Big ski area
Some ace off-piste (connies depending)
High up (better chance of Pow)
Easy to get to (was thinking of flying to Geneva and possibly hiring a car or getting a transfer bus)
Not stupid expensive

Obvious choice is Cham which I've done a number of times but I'm open to suggestions and even doing the chalet/all in vibe. Just super psyched to go and have finallly got the green light!

Cheers...

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 21, 2024, 11:56:01 am
Cham is a bit of a crap "resort" really. Everything is very spread out.. difficult to access. Off piste is pretty serious/technical. Tignes is probably much more up your street by the sounds of it. Massive area.. tonnes of off piste. Plenty of accommodation (though lots of it is really rather small.) Or the 3 Valleys. 
Avoriaz if you're into your fun parks.
Obv loads of others. Grimentz has loads of easily accessable off piste but is a bit spenny.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 21, 2024, 12:01:23 pm
Driving is a good way of saving a load of cash. Extends your time on the hill by a day (you can squeeze an extra quiet day on the last Saturday and travel back Saturday eve/Sunday) plus we take a load of preprepared frozen meals in a cool box. (Chillis/curry etc) to rather thank paying eye watering costs there.
 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 21, 2024, 04:40:11 pm
With the caveat that I've never been to a ski resort I didn't like, i enjoyed Les2alpes last year. It seems a bit cheaper generally than the resorts further north, and (in school holidays at least) flights to Grenoble and (shortish) transfers via Bens bus were better value. Ski area is a bit different to most being at the end of a long ridge, with the top lifts being seriously high bubbles to carving cruisy blues at 3300m rather than the usual (looking at you, Cham, Tignes and Les arcs) single weather-affected cable car to black/ icy red. Not sure about off piste as we had kids in tow but I'm sure its great, there is one huge obvious run under the Piere grosse bubble. Town is big with lots of choice.

Had one of the best weeks of my life crashing at a friend's in Cham, bought a single to the top station of a different area every day then toured out (no splits, just snowshoes or bootpacking). None of it was extreme or tracked out but local knowledge was the key.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 21, 2024, 07:46:22 pm
Also really enjoyed Serre Chevallier in the past too.  Bit cheaper, but not super high.

I'd hardly say Tignes/Val was a one cable car to the top kind of a place  :-\ .   The all weather underground fenicular gets you up to pretty much the top of the resort at 3000 meters.

L2A does sound good though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 21, 2024, 08:03:25 pm
It was a long time ago, but we waited all week for the Grand Motte to be open, and when it was it wasn’t worth the wait. Have had similar at a few others.  Not saying they aren’t great ski areas but the 2alpes high glacier did make a nice change for late season snow quality.

My Dad is firmly of the opinion that Val is the best ski area and refuses to go anywhere else. I’m not convinced the extra cost is worth it, plus I think there’s a chance that Tignes in particular can be too high at this time of year in that the snow is no better and the chance of being baltic, socked in or both is higher. If you can go now I think go a bit lower and take the chance to get in the trees. But like I said I’ve never been anywhere I didn’t like, when I was younger we went on a couple of cheap package deals to random Austrian resorts where a bus ride and funicular combo was the only access to the ski area, still loved it.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 21, 2024, 08:06:47 pm

Totally agree, basically snowboarding is flippin ace, no matter if its on Mam Tor/Winnats or Valdez Alaska :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on January 21, 2024, 08:10:44 pm
Also really enjoyed Serre Chevallier in the past too.  Bit cheaper, but not super high.

We went to Alpe D'Huez several years ago now. I've been skiing since fairly young but my wife has only been a few times. We were skiing together for half of the day and then I was tagging along to a guided party for the rest of the day for off-piste which was epic. A lot of the group dropped out so in the end it was just me and another lady. I was really sceptical of the resort before we went as TBH I've been spoilt by the Three Valleys. We did the same in Austria (St Anton) and had an epic time.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 21, 2024, 10:45:15 pm
Agree if you are driving or want close access to Geneva, Portes du Soleil is a good choice, you can get an extra day in as Sam says. Avoriaz actually has a far bit of off piste, as does Chatel.

I'd look at Grand Massif as the other easy option if you want quick access. Flaine may not be pretty, but the whole bowl is high up and gets excellent snow, with tons of off-piste potential. It never gets that busy (except weekends when there are folk from the cities coming in, but still manageable.) There is also a load of opportunities for lower stuff in the trees if the weather is bad. And if you have a car you can easily access Les Gets, Praz de Lys for some deserted off piste, or get down to Megeve, LGB or Crest Voland if you want some variety.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on January 22, 2024, 12:54:25 pm
Good Gen guys - thanks...

Looking at Tignes right now as none of us have been - kinda tempted to drive but not sure how much cheaper it'd be than flying + car/transfer bus/train etc. My T5's not the most economical beast, then there's the tolls and it's a bit of a schlep - do folks do it is a oner from Sheff or thereabouts? I'd usually do an overnight stop in Font (which kinda defeats the object if you're trying to extend time in the hils) but 3 of us sleeping in one bed might be a bit "cozy"  :lol:

I've always got on fine with Cham tbh, I like the fact it's a proper town rather than just a ski resort... Some of my best ever days have been spent getting the Bochard lift up and picking Pow lines down the unpisted stuff either side of that or coming down the Bochard side of Grand Montetes.... Magic! I'll add that like JB I too have never been to a place to snowboard that I've not loved tho - Psyched!

Going through Air B&B's now - nowt's cheap but should be doable... Should have invested in a diesel heater for me van tho, might be the way forward (for both snowboarding and surfing!)...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on January 22, 2024, 12:59:48 pm
Use the Michelin planner to find out your cost (tolls & fuel):
https://www.viamichelin.co.uk/web/Routes
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 22, 2024, 01:04:42 pm
Our family routine has always been...

Late Friday night chunnel booked.  (11pm ish). 
F1 booked an hour or two off the chunnel, 3 of you in a room, £50quid.. boom.  Collapse into bed for 6 hours kip, up at 8 and off, via a big supermarche, to stock up on fresh food and wine. 
Head across france on the Satuday, usually get up to resort late afternoon (good run), early eve if a  bit lax/or tailbacks etc.
Return on the Saturday.. , board till 1 or 2pm.. then straight in the van/car and get out of resort and to an F1 somewhere where you reckon you can get to early eve.  Dijon/Dole etc.  Nice meal out somewhere.
Sunday - hoon it back to the chunnel, usually booked for about 1/2 pm..  home by early eve sunday.

Def works out cheaper, especially if there's a 3 way split and if your good at prepreparig your meals and taking them with you.  (We stick a load of Abbeydale cans in too).  Wine we buy in france!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 22, 2024, 01:05:32 pm
GM at Cham is still limited, top lift burned down and they've still not replaced it, le tour is maybe still out of action too?

We've had great trips in the dolomites in the past. Can elaborate if interested.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 22, 2024, 01:11:07 pm
Just looked and in 2022 we did a family of 4 in Tignes for £3500 all in.

Fuel was 350
Tolls were 180

We dropped lucky with Accom which was about 900 for a 2 bed appartment which I think you'd be lucky to get now.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 22, 2024, 01:17:39 pm
Oh, looks like Le Tour is back in action...

GM top still shut, planned opening 2024/5 season.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 22, 2024, 01:30:56 pm
Re: driving, I've done it with 3 in a car, leaving Bristol at 5pm, late ferry, driven in rotation and got to Les Gets at 8 am, got straight on the lifts. That was with a company car though (Volvo estate, and fuel was cheaper in those days).

If you choose to fly, in my experience, if there are 4 of you, a week of car hire from Geneva is less than 4 2-way transfers, and gives you flexibility when you are there to visit other resorts. Book through a comparison site comparison site like travel supermarket, and get insurance through insure4less (for a 1 trip or annual policy).

Many resort websites have accommodation booking options directly, which are often not on air bnb (for numerus reasons). These are often just 2 bunks and a sleeper couch in a single room, fine if you are good mates.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 22, 2024, 02:01:25 pm
Biggest saving I've found recently is that quite a few sites include the lift pass free with the accommodation.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 24, 2024, 11:33:49 am
borrowed an old transceiver for a mate to use, do I carry the decent one, or does he???
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on January 24, 2024, 11:48:17 am
My mate once came out to cham with  a rubbishy cheap shovel/probe/transceiver setup and I had the same dilemma!

I just let him drop in first...  :devil-smiley:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on January 24, 2024, 01:24:13 pm
borrowed an old transceiver for a mate to use, do I carry the decent one, or does he???

 :devangel:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on January 24, 2024, 08:40:45 pm
Get a second decent one  :worms:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on January 25, 2024, 06:30:54 am
https://youtu.be/bLlK6KnQYcg

A little bit of Hokkaido Japow for you from Tuesday - we hiked a Ghost Resort that shutdown about 5-years ago to score some fresh tracks after a pretty decent dump the night before. Still frothing right now. Perfect end to a quick 5-day trip there. 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 25, 2024, 10:18:48 am
Looks amazing. Are there many of these ghost resorts?

Actually had the chance to be in Japan this week, but had a bunch of reasons not to go.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on January 26, 2024, 04:57:31 am
Looks amazing. Are there many of these ghost resorts?

Actually had the chance to be in Japan this week, but had a bunch of reasons not to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hApr9gY3t4

the above vid gives quite a nice summary of the ghost resort situation in Japan - looks like there should be a couple of hundred of them kicking about...

I'd highly recommend Japan to any keen skier/boarder - the combination of perfect snow, awesome and accessible side/back country, and just being in Japan (one of my fav countries to visit whatever the reason) makes for a great all round experience
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on January 26, 2024, 11:17:06 am
Cheers, would love to go but unlikely unless part of a bigger trip. Is it mostly overcast/ flat light?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on January 29, 2024, 05:31:47 am
Cheers, would love to go but unlikely unless part of a bigger trip. Is it mostly overcast/ flat light?

The conditions you hope for are mostly flat light as that means it's dumping  ;) 

we had a mix last week: two bluebird days to start with (which i didn't mind as i hadn't had a chance to strap in for four years due to the previous travel restrictions in HK so it gave me nice easy conditions to find my feet again), followed by a couple of days with steady moderate to heavy snow and the odd parting of the clouds - perfect for getting into the back country to find fresh tracks.   
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on January 31, 2024, 12:51:54 pm
Get a second decent one  :worms:

Didn't need either in the end. Conditions very stable, only off piste we did was a couple of runs off the shoulder of the Bellecote on very variable snow, otherwise piste only. Definitely want to go back, so much great terrain. Skied from the top of the Aiguille Rouge down to Villaroger, a thigh exploding continuous 2000m of descent.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 01, 2024, 05:42:22 pm
Nice, was up there today! 41.5km off piste from the other side of La Plagne and back. Bad news is all the off piste is totally fucked due to high rain followed by a freeze last week. Good news is the new splitboard totally rips. Was a bit worried it might be a bit big or stiff compared to the skeleton key but just rides so well. Not had the skins on but had some fun smashing through in-between bits of crust.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on February 01, 2024, 06:14:26 pm
 Keep thinking of getting the Mrs a splitboard, she'd still hate the sweaty climbs though  :lol:

Hope that icy layer fucks off before Feb 26th!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 01, 2024, 06:29:03 pm
It was really warm for quite a while, there are loads of full depth avalanches developing on sunny slopes, full spring conditions. Up high there is a great base for later in the season though.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 02, 2024, 08:45:15 am
Bad news is all the off piste is totally fucked due to high rain followed by a freeze last week.
Yeah, it was a bit heavy, but we were only going as low as the Chalet chair, so snow still reasonable. I would have been a lot happier on a snowboard! The pistes were horrible the day after the rain, but softened up again.

There is apparently another storm cycle due in next 10 days, hope temp stays low.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on February 05, 2024, 05:06:01 am
Just bought a splitty... frothing now, anyone else yearning for turning?


i got carried away after my trip and just did the same - now trying to convince the wife another long weekend in Feb is fine (even tho i'd be dumping her again for a few weeks in Font shortly afterwards  ;D). Went for one of these as Japan is my 'local' and the only time i'm likely to be heading back country is when the powder has been dumping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=029IpGWLT1I&list=TLGG5Uc5mzOYClQwNTAyMjAyNA
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 05, 2024, 10:24:45 am
Ooh nice, been reading some great reviews for that board, a proper swallowtail that's not just for powder! There is one on Uk ebay at the mo although it looks a bit trashed, still tempting tho...

My new Surf Shuttle worked great, due to the hard frozen conditions I used it for one day on piste and a half day mini-tour. Worked great, including carving pistes and cruising through some very heavy crust without really having to think about it. Skinning was fine - stiffer is definitely to be preferred here - and the transitions were easy. A little slower to initiate a turn than the Skeleton Key, and a little twitchier wrt catching edges, but generally a close enough ride that I didn't have to consciously adapt my style.

Didn't see another split all week, and generally snowboards in a <10% minority. Saw two monoskis though. Conditions were really bad at first due to rain then freeze, but the pistes improved through the week although the off-piste remained frozen solid.

Impression of La Plagne were mixed - really big, really busy (even for Jan) and seems to have been planned in a lax fashion; there is a LOT of accommodation spread about and the lift network appears a bit ad hoc, resulting in predictable queues at the bottlenecks. Although the villages are high the pistes are mostly in the zone 600m above with limited higher, and a lot of runs require return to village. Variety of aspects, though mostly north facing. Middle of the resort mostly low-angled, bookended by two big valleys with lift access and egress but otherwise unpisted. Both mostly icy hell last week - most of the blacks were closed purely due to ice. The in between off piste looks amazing, limestone underneath so really detailed terrain full of dolines and pinnacles, but I'd assume it would be mobbed as it is the first big resort you get to in the Isère valley. The combo lift pass with Les Arcs requires determination to use, linking the arse ends of both resorts and prob not worth it for most.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 05, 2024, 11:22:45 am
We had one day in La Plagne and thought the same. Only really bad queue we had all week was getting out of Bellecote on the Arpette. My brother's sister and brother in law live in Peisey Vallandry, and they only ever go to La Plagne to access the Bellecote. By comparison Les Arcs was a lot quieter, although the Transarc bubble (due to be upgraded) and Aiguille Rouge gondola were always pretty busy at peak times, The Vallandry side and 1600 side were always deserted, and it's easy to check out length of lines in 1900 and 2000 as you pass through.

Les Arcs has stacks of off / side piste potential, looks like it will be getting good again next week (typical).  Snowboarding is definitely on the decline, I think lots of people have splittys in their quiver, but donlt ride them in resort. Noted at least a monoskier a day, and a few teleskiers.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2024, 12:45:27 pm
We are looking at somewhere high in Austria (mainly so kids can do full day lessons) for Easter. Pref with base about 1400/1500. Serfaus / Fiss / Landis seems a good area, wondering if anyone has been? Not many operators go there, so might be DIY job - fly / train / bus or taxi or hire car.

A lot of the other high resorts (Obergurgl, Ishgl, Lech / Zurs) that operators offer packages to are silly prices. Any other hidden gems? Naasfeld comes up, but is a long way from airports.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 09, 2024, 01:00:11 pm
No idea bout Austria - soz Chris... Went to Solden 30 odd years ago with my dad and there's a Glacier (or there was....) and he was always looking for cheap and cheerful...

Got a Q about bindings - anyone got any recomends? Got a Skeleton Key, all about the freeride and am looking at Burton Cartels (either EST or Reflex) but if anyone's got a better suggestions then that'd be ace....

Off to France 2nd March - Psyched!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2024, 01:36:13 pm
Solden has definitely gone upmarket since! Plus it's not actually that high. Prefer a high base, as the beginners area is inevitably near the base, and it can be like skiing in porridge late on a warm day. The new step on bindings look good, but you need specific boots I think. I am still on some Drake ones I bought in 2003 (new straps though).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 09, 2024, 01:46:41 pm
We are looking at somewhere high in Austria (mainly so kids can do full day lessons) for Easter. Pref with base about 1400/1500.

Went to Stubai about 20 years back. Accommodation was in the Neustift valley with bus then cable car/ bubble to main ski area. Close to Innsbruck, was cheap (at the time), ski area isn't massive but is high (mostly 2300-3200m, base at 1700) and snow was good. Village was pretty.

Duncan - I've been on Burton Step Ins/ Ons for 20+ years. Yes you need specific boots. Union seem to be the choice of the strap binding connoisseurs.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2024, 01:53:48 pm
Cheers, will have a look. Might be a bit on the small side. If there is no fresh for a week it could feel a bit limited.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 09, 2024, 02:08:22 pm

Duncan - I've been on Burton Step Ins/ Ons for 20+ years. Yes you need specific boots. Union seem to be the choice of the strap binding connoisseurs.

Had a look at the Union Atlas - look pretty good as an all mountain binding. Love my Salamon boots so am not going down the step on route right now (although those Nidecker ones that work with any boots look pretty sweet)...

Had Burton Classics on my last board and loved them but the baseplate has disintegrated and I can't seem to find spares (they're 15+ YO) so the Cartels seem like a good replacement. Am a bit reticient to go EST as it ties you into Burton boards but have found them online new for £189 inc delivery which makes for quite a weapon for not much green all told... No idea about the benefits/pitfalls of EST tho...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 09, 2024, 02:58:46 pm
Really like my Union Explorers for the split.  Seem lots less faffy than the older sparks/voile ones.

Got Burton Missions on my normal board and have been very happy with them.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 09, 2024, 03:25:01 pm
I would be tempted to give the EST a try to make the most of the channel. I’ve not used them, but the benefits seems worthwhile - no bolt plate underfoot so thinner base, more sensitive/ consistent board contact. Greater adjustability in angle and centering with no detents. Less leverage on bolts so shouldn’t need to be cranked down as hard.

Channel is great but be careful only to use correct bolts - standard ones are too long and will dent your base, ask me how I know. I do have to crank my back foot really tight but that’s with standard plates.

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 09, 2024, 03:53:21 pm
I would be tempted to give the EST a try to make the most of the channel. I’ve not used them, but the benefits seems worthwhile - no bolt plate underfoot so thinner base, more sensitive/ consistent board contact. Greater adjustability in angle and centering with no detents. Less leverage on bolts so shouldn’t need to be cranked down as hard.

Channel is great but be careful only to use correct bolts - standard ones are too long and will dent your base, ask me how I know. I do have to crank my back foot really tight but that’s with standard plates.

Johnny "Burton Rep" Brown strikes again  ;D - just looking back at this thread after laying down for the Cartel X EST's - Look like a great option with the Skeleton key and nearly £50 notes cheaper than the Unions...

Just need a lid now (35 years without one and think I've chanced it enough!) and I'm ready to tear down Alp d'Huez next month - Absolutely frothing!!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 09, 2024, 04:34:12 pm
Not sure where you're based Duncan, but I called into 'The Sick and the Wrong' shop in Keswick when I was up there over christmas and tried a load on.  Not the easiest thing to buy online without trying on.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 09, 2024, 05:05:17 pm
Not sure where you're based Duncan, but I called into 'The Sick and the Wrong' shop in Keswick when I was up there over christmas and tried a load on.  Not the easiest thing to buy online without trying on.

Know what cha mean, kinda why I've not gone down that route yet (actually that's probably rubbish - I'm just lazy and do what I've always done, wear my beanie & not think about it)... Based in Sheff - Not sure if there's many places local (is Dick's still around?)... Could always get one in resort but will be well spenny in L'Alp I reckon....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 09, 2024, 05:25:54 pm
I’ve got a sinner helmet which has been great. I noticed go outdoors had the same one at a knockdown £25 due to a shop soiled box….
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 09, 2024, 07:16:45 pm
Decathlon too.. less steezy obviously.  I tried all their offerings and would have had no qualms about buying one there.. but nothing really fitted well.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 09, 2024, 08:13:42 pm

Just need a lid now (35 years without one and think I've chanced it enough!) and I'm ready to tear down Alp d'Huez next month - Absolutely frothing!!

Looks like they are just getting nailed again, another storm cycle going through

https://wepowder.com/en/villages/alpe-dhuez#pic-blanc

hopefully more to come.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 26, 2024, 12:14:36 pm
Looks like it's been dumping down in the Alps the last week and more to come:

https://wepowder.com/en/villages/alpe-dhuez#pic-blanc

Heading out on Saturday and been thinking about connies and how the recent 1.5m + of snow that's fallen recently onto what was sounding like pretty hard pack is going to play out - are we looking at some pretty dangerous situations even venturing off piste slightly?

Never owned a tranciever, hired one when I did the Vallee Blanche but other than that have always tended to stick close to the pistes and not felt the need (possibly foolishly) so I'm wondering what folks think - is it worth investing for a week or just being careful?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 26, 2024, 01:14:09 pm
PM'd you.

I think its a bit dangerious to think "I'm only just off piste" or "I'm not going far off piste" or "I'll just be careful".

I don't think there's any such thing as the above.

You're either off piste or your not, if you are, you can trigger an avalance.  Not sure how you can 'be careful' other than wearing tranceiver and av bag.

I set quite a big slab off once, just the other side of the netting at the edge of the piste. 
The day before, in good weather, I'd been ducking round the netting on a hairpin bend of a red, to get some nice open shallow gully lines down a slope that dropped me onto a green cat track that met at the same lift.
Following day was misty, flat light, low vis and it'd been snowing a fair bit.  I waved tata to the rest of the party as I ducked behind the netting, saying I'd see them at the lift. (no tranceiver no av gear) .  as I traversed in across the top of the shallow gully, it went below me, wasn't quite sure what had happened as the vis was so poor, but I could just see all the willowy bushes below shaking violently indicating the whole slope was in the move..  turning round I saw a rather large crown line (12-18" deep) around the top.  I took my board off and walked up and back onto the red.   So so lucky, nobody would have seen me, friends would have waited for 15mins or so before wondering where I was, then who knows how long before they'd come looking/informed security. I'd have been a gonner and worse still, to this day I have no idea if I'd taken out an entire ski school on the green cat track below.  :unsure: :(

Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 26, 2024, 01:27:33 pm
Being informed is a much more powerful measure than a transceiver. Obviously both is best, but if you are just cutting between pistes a bit of savvy will go a long way towards avoiding avalanche terrain. If you are venturing further you need full avvy kit - transceiver, shovel, probe etc plus mates with same and the skills to use - survival rates drop dramatically after 15 minutes burial so the cavalry is highly unlikely to arrive in time.

Avy forecast is here: https://meteofrance.com/meteo-montagne/alpes-du-nord/risques-avalanche

Alpe d'huez is in the Oisans massif. Currently level 4 (out of 5) forecast to improve from Monday. Fresh on hard pack is not necessarily a big issue, but a lot depends on what the temps have done during the dump as to whether there will be instability. Windslab forming over the weekend is the big issue to keep an eye on. Of the three types of avalanches, windslabs are the big killer..

Ortovox have a great series of vids to give you the basics, start here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFWII5bAlQI

One of the best takeaways is that you are highly unlikely to trigger an avy on slopes under 30deg. You can have a lot of fun without getting onto steep slopes. That avoids triggering, but you still need to think about getting hit by slides from above. In resort the risk of avalanches falling into the ski area is likely to be fairly well managed, but avoid skiing/ traversing under steep slopes, and particularly where you could swept into a gully or off a cliff. But to follow something like a broad, shallow ridge between pistes can be very low risk.

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I set quite a big slab off once, just the other side of the netting at the edge of the piste

 :o And don't go alone! Guessing there'd been some wind overnight?
 
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 26, 2024, 01:36:07 pm

Yeah, lesson learned on that one..  It was a looooong time ago now.  Weather was shitty, so yeah, I'm guessing it now it was a leeward slope, and it was windblown accumulating off the side of the piste.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2024, 02:51:31 pm
plus mates with same and the skills to use

Don't underestimate this. You can have the best avi kit in the world, if there isn't someone with you who knows what they are doing you might as well not have it.

By all accounts the last week has been a game of two halves; rain up to about 2000m and snow above, which can do funny things to the snowpack. Also practice using transceivers before you need them. Even on a football field or golf course in the dark. The signal can be hard to follow due to the curved flux lines, as my scouts found out when I was letting them try mine out last week. https://avyrescue.com/transceiver_search_coarse.php
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on February 26, 2024, 03:09:07 pm
That avoids triggering, but you still need to think about getting hit by slides from above.

This popped up on my feed last week.. https://youtu.be/RLX_PaCWMT8?si=X7YZ7v0UO22GyZIQ.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Paul B on February 26, 2024, 08:19:45 pm
Someone recommended the book "staying alive in avalanche terrain" elsewhere on UKB and I think there was a simplified version that was released later?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 26, 2024, 08:52:57 pm
That avoids triggering, but you still need to think about getting hit by slides from above.

This popped up on my feed last week.. https://youtu.be/RLX_PaCWMT8?si=X7YZ7v0UO22GyZIQ.

this came up just before we went the other week - a descent I've done a few times. I thought it looked like an obvious risk, but by the time you are down there its a bit of effort to climb back out. I played it very safe due to similar conditions (and having kids with me most of the time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2kbdfU6g8&list=FL2H2J-adiB6DyYO1Ttt4LHw&index=1&t=112s
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 26, 2024, 09:53:02 pm
Someone recommended the book "staying alive in avalanche terrain" elsewhere on UKB and I think there was a simplified version that was released later?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1680511386/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=AGSMIELAHCUUW&psc=1

I've read it, pretty text heavy.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Powderguide-Managing-Avalanche-Tobias-Kurzeder/dp/0972482733

I recommended this, I still think it's a great book.

If you can do a course (I've done a 1 day at Glenmore, and got a free day of avalanche awareness at Whistler) they are better than any book or video.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on February 27, 2024, 04:58:53 am
i've just booked myself on this so i can get a summer time fix of the fluffy stuff - plus upskill myself a bit in the process too (might also try and bag a day of heli-ski too if conditions look worthwhile):
https://wanakamountainguides.co.nz/ski-touring-courses/backcountry-touring/  (https://wanakamountainguides.co.nz/ski-touring-courses/backcountry-touring/)

as Chris says, the Tempest book is pretty text heavy (but still one of the better books on the subject)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2024, 09:32:08 am
Love to get back to Wanaka..
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2024, 10:58:00 am
Looks like it's been dumping down in the Alps the last week and more to come:

https://wepowder.com/en/villages/alpe-dhuez#pic-blanc


If the latest forecast is correct, I'd be worried about getting up to resort! And hopefully there will be enough on piste fresh snow to keep you busy....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 27, 2024, 02:12:46 pm
That avoids triggering, but you still need to think about getting hit by slides from above.

This popped up on my feed last week.. https://youtu.be/RLX_PaCWMT8?si=X7YZ7v0UO22GyZIQ.

this came up just before we went the other week - a descent I've done a few times. I thought it looked like an obvious risk, but by the time you are down there its a bit of effort to climb back out. I played it very safe due to similar conditions (and having kids with me most of the time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2kbdfU6g8&list=FL2H2J-adiB6DyYO1Ttt4LHw&index=1&t=112s

Shit the bed  :o

Thanks for the input guys - big up your bad selves!

Looks like I could have lucked in on the connies - staying in Oz en Osians rather than L'Alp so won't have the switchbacks to face and getting a pickup from Rochetaillee so fingers crossed we'll make it up to the ski station where our appartment is. Psyched!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 27, 2024, 02:36:30 pm
My brother was there with some relatives about 30 years ago for a week at Easter. Their flight was one of the first to arrive on the Saturday, and they got to their hotel about midday at which point it started dumping, so hard they closed the road up. It then proceeded to snow pretty much non-stop for the entire week, so no other coaches could get in, and they had the entire resort pretty much to the few coaches that got in, as they could not get the road open again.

Trouble was he was just a novice skier in a time of skinny straight skis, and had a miserable time struggling to ski in poor vis and deep powder, praying for the snow to stop so they could ski on some sunny pistes. I think they managed to reopen the road the day before they left.....   
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 28, 2024, 11:06:51 am
My brother was there with some relatives about 30 years ago for a week at Easter. Their flight was one of the first to arrive on the Saturday, and they got to their hotel about midday at which point it started dumping, so hard they closed the road up. It then proceeded to snow pretty much non-stop for the entire week, so no other coaches could get in, and they had the entire resort pretty much to the few coaches that got in, as they could not get the road open again.

Trouble was he was just a novice skier in a time of skinny straight skis, and had a miserable time struggling to ski in poor vis and deep powder, praying for the snow to stop so they could ski on some sunny pistes. I think they managed to reopen the road the day before they left.....   

Must have been quite a dump that! Looking like Monday to Wednesday are gonna be pretty clear so reckon we timed it just right - one of my mates is talking about La Grave... Had a quick look and it looks amazing! Has anyone been?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2024, 12:15:48 pm
My brother has. It's over the back of Deux Alps though, not Alp d'Huez. I think you need to either really know the place well, or hire a guide. And you need good conditions...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 28, 2024, 02:35:32 pm
The Grande Galaxie skipass allows for 2 days at Le Deux Alpes and apparently also gives you a 25% discount off La Grave... Will check connies but we were thinking of getting a guide if we do it.... Probably be enough to go at just around AdH with the current dumps but could be pretty sweet if the forecast does what it seems to suggest.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2024, 02:45:54 pm
will you have transport?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on February 28, 2024, 03:17:05 pm
Nope - getting a bus from Grenoble but apparently there is a direct shuttle bus to Les Deux Alpes on Wednesdays (and possibly Thursdays) for €15 return and you can access from there. Would have to get to Alpe d'Huez for 08:45 but the first lift at Oz goes at 8am (we're 1 minute from that lift) so should be good for that - good warmup run too ;-)
Alternatively you can get a helicopter for €70  :doubt:
Probably find a bit more gen in resort...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on February 28, 2024, 04:18:28 pm
Yeah, you can get to the top. You can probably arrange to meet a guiding service in Deux Alpes. They normally like to take you on some runs in resort to see what you are capable of before getting on anything more committing...   
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on March 01, 2024, 04:25:49 am
one of my mates is talking about La Grave... Had a quick look and it looks amazing! Has anyone been?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkinG08IoKk&t=593s
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on March 01, 2024, 02:38:13 pm
one of my mates is talking about La Grave... Had a quick look and it looks amazing! Has anyone been?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkinG08IoKk&t=593s
:great:
Watched that the other day - looks mint!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on March 07, 2024, 10:11:25 am
Nope - getting a bus from Grenoble but apparently there is a direct shuttle bus to Les Deux Alpes on Wednesdays (and possibly Thursdays) for €15 return and you can access from there. Would have to get to Alpe d'Huez for 08:45 but the first lift at Oz goes at 8am (we're 1 minute from that lift) so should be good for that - good warmup run too ;-)
Alternatively you can get a helicopter for €70  :doubt:
Probably find a bit more gen in resort...

Hows it going Duncan.... hit the road tomorrow morning...  :bounce:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2024, 10:59:19 am
Where you heading? Jealous looks like Alps are going through a storm cycle.

Some interesting weather articles here, was just reading about a Retour d'est

https://wepowder.com/en/weblog/2023/01/21/what-is-a-retour-dest

and a Nordstau

https://wepowder.com/en/weblog/2021/09/29/what-is-a-nordstau
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on March 07, 2024, 01:29:04 pm
Tignes for a week of splitboarding.  :2thumbsup:

Though if there's enough powder in resort, happy to just hit that all day long. We'll see.  Might do a day off the back of Saint Foy, we'll see.

Looks good at the moment, but we'll see.  Very cold it seems, so nothing melting, but seems there maybe some high winds over the weekend.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 07, 2024, 01:55:30 pm
Tignes for a week of splitboarding.  :2thumbsup:

Though if there's enough powder in resort, happy to just hit that all day long. We'll see.  Might do a day off the back of Saint Foy, we'll see.

Looks good at the moment, but we'll see.  Very cold it seems, so nothing melting, but seems there maybe some high winds over the weekend.

Re Sainte Foy, if by (off the back) you mean Le Monal, I would say not worth the drive over from Tignes. Nice skiing, lovely location but not good enough skiing for the effort. The "return leg" goes under some pretty big south facing cliffs which will release after heavy snow/solar loading so be careful.

If you mean off the North of La Foglietta, then yes, definitely, fantastic skiing, great terrain, you can pick how much you want to bite off at the start but you will end up waiting for the bus at Le Miroir and it is a combat ski from La Sussaz to Le Crot and onwards.

West Face of La Foglietta is good for a few laps.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on March 07, 2024, 02:13:10 pm
Yeah, North of La Foglietta, done it before.   Mega.  bit of an i.p.o.d to get back out the bottom I seem to recall.
Depends if we're meeting up with a team there or not, more than a lifetimes stuff to go at in Tignes/Val without faffing about driving to other resorts.

(icy piste/path of death).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 07, 2024, 02:58:31 pm
Did a nice little tour with a local guide from the Col d'Iseran over the Col des Fours, down past Refuge du Fond to Le Manchet. There was a final section of steep traverse to get across to the Col which wasn't ideal on a split, but otherwise mellow <30 deg slopes up and down, all miles away from the pistes.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SamT on March 07, 2024, 04:41:20 pm
Yeah, I think something like that is on the list.  Mate I'm going with has done a lot in the area, so kinda just going with whatever he reccomends.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: unclesomebody on March 07, 2024, 05:27:30 pm
Does anyone know a guide in the La Plagne area? I've contacted a bunch of companies but they're all booked out for next week. Looking to get onto the north face of the bellecote (subject to conditions).
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 07, 2024, 05:59:04 pm
Have you tried any in Les Arcs? I can get in touch with a mate who lives in Peisey Vallandry and see if he knows anyone. He can see it from his back door...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 08, 2024, 08:22:46 am
I was surprised there is no bureau in La Plagne, although there’s a private one in Montalbert - you tried them?

Otherwise should be loads of individuals down in the valleys either side. I know one guy but he’s above Bourg, specialises in Val and was booked up last time I asked.

Bellecote looks incredible, not sure how low the snow line needs to be though. If the snow is good the two valleys either end of the resort have amazing terrain with barely marked blacks.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: hongkongstuey on March 08, 2024, 08:32:35 am
for the split boarders / back country folk out there - any recommendations on good quality bibs?

Google searches coming up with the usual erratic suggestions (i.e. some folks raving about certain brands whilst others go the complete opposite) - figured it's better to ask peoples whose views i'm more inclined to trust

Getting myself prepped for those end of season sales as well as upcoming NZ trip later this year
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on March 11, 2024, 04:44:08 pm
Nope - getting a bus from Grenoble but apparently there is a direct shuttle bus to Les Deux Alpes on Wednesdays (and possibly Thursdays) for €15 return and you can access from there. Would have to get to Alpe d'Huez for 08:45 but the first lift at Oz goes at 8am (we're 1 minute from that lift) so should be good for that - good warmup run too ;-)
Alternatively you can get a helicopter for €70  :doubt:
Probably find a bit more gen in resort...

Hows it going Duncan.... hit the road tomorrow morning...  :bounce:

Got back Saturday - absolutely mint trip... Had no wifi in our appartment and shitty phone signal so been kinda incommunicado which is pretty ace tbh as being a web monkey someone allways wants summat doing while I'm away (eh Shark?  :P)... This time I just ignored everyone (or they left me alone) and concentrated on tearing the mountain up  ;)

The (fucking amazingly) Good:
Connies were ace - snowed just before we got there and a little on our first day so we had a little dusting of powder off the piste on the first day that carried us over til the main 15/20cm dump came on Tuesday evening...
Wednesday of powder power - first lift til last lift off the top of Pic Blanc, picking untracked off Le Tunel and Sarene all day... The Day of Days!
Stayed cold up high so even when tracked you could ride off piste without hammering yer knees.
Matched ability and psych group - can't emphasise enough how great this was! No waiting for anyone, all keen to drop the same runs, bowls or couloirs, get first lift up everyday and ride til they kicked us off the hill then head for a pint...
Skeleton Key is an absolute weapon in powder, through the trees and on toeside groomers... Big up yer bad self JB!

The (not very) Bad (at all):
8hrs a day riding for 6 days with folk up to 20 years my junior has left me destroyed!
Skeleton key being so set back means that heelside carves tend to either butter if pushed too hard or slide out - could probably be rectified with a forward tweak of the bindings (tend to ride quite wide stance so would probably just end up pushing the rear one forward a bit) but tbh as conditions were so good it made sense to setup for powder and accept the odd slide out....
Not quite as much snow as predicted and was a definite scarcity below 1500m (stayed at 1300m and it was barren) which is pretty depressing really as it makes you think how the hell will some of these resorts survive! 

One of the best trips ever alltold! Great crew and ace connies - mostly stayed around Alpe d'Huez as there's so much off Pic Blanc, Herpie, Clocher De Macle and Dome Des Rousses - Did have one day at Le Deux Alpes and concur that it's fucking mint for what we were after - so much off piste close enough to not feel super sketchy - connies were a little bad that day with some full on white out moments which added to the excitement! Bit busy on the pistes for my taste tho...

Almost considering another trip this season if I can convince the Mrs it's in her interest to have such a happy me - dunno if the complaining about my legs since I got home is gonna help that tho  :lol:
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Post by: Johnny Brown on March 11, 2024, 05:43:05 pm
Sounds amazing!

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Matched ability and psych group - can't emphasise enough how great this was!

That is the dream and so hard to achieve, had a couple of days ever like this.

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Skeleton Key is an absolute weapon in powder, through the trees and on toeside groomers...

Glad you liked it  :2thumbsup:  Felt pretty confident recommending it (and especially at that price :punk: ) , really fun board! It always amazes me how stable at speed it is despite not being very stiff, and almost immune to catching edges. Assumed this was taper at first, but now pretty sure it’s due to the early rise on the nose lifting the contact points up, so they don’t engage unless you want them to.

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Skeleton key being so set back means that heelside carves tend to either butter if pushed too hard or slide out

Hmm, that’s interesting as I occasionally have the opposite problem of heel judder, i.e. locking in too well and tight until the edge jumps out suddenly. After reading up I had put it down to technique but setback is a thought. I’m riding at reference width, other idea was to set the bindings slightly closer to toeside. Were you getting any heel drag?


Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on March 11, 2024, 06:37:58 pm
Sounds amazing!

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Matched ability and psych group - can't emphasise enough how great this was!

That is the dream and so hard to achieve, had a couple of days ever like this.

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Skeleton Key is an absolute weapon in powder, through the trees and on toeside groomers...

Glad you liked it  :2thumbsup:  Felt pretty confident recommending it (and especially at that price :punk: ) , really fun board! It always amazes me how stable at speed it is despite not being very stiff, and almost immune to catching edges. Assumed this was taper at first, but now pretty sure it’s due to the early rise on the nose lifting the contact points up, so they don’t engage unless you want them to.

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Skeleton key being so set back means that heelside carves tend to either butter if pushed too hard or slide out

Hmm, that’s interesting as I occasionally have the opposite problem of heel judder, i.e. locking in too well and tight until the edge jumps out suddenly. After reading up I had put it down to technique but setback is a thought. I’m riding at reference width, other idea was to set the bindings slightly closer to toeside. Were you getting any heel drag?

Yea man.. I think it's the first time I've had a full week of it... We did have one mate who also managed to smash it in the bar every night too and still get out for first tracks most mornings, albiet sometimes looking a bit worse for wear! All fully psyched for next year so think I've got that bit sorted! (was actually considering going on my own if i couldn't find a psyched enough crew)...

Interesting what you say about the edge catching - didn't catch a single one! Even when tired flying down flat tracks - could pretty much squat & forget about it and it'd stay pin straight! Great!

Not sure about heel drag tbh, I never actually felt it but it could have contributed to slipping out - if you really press on the back heel you can get a great carve but as I mentioned the nose would almost butter if you drive too hard and if it goes south you can come down pretty hard on your arse! (almost split myself in two learing this the hard way).... Wouldn't want to do anything to change that toeside carve though - pretty sure I had my chin on the corduroy at some points  :punk: Still can't get over how well it floats in powder either - effortless!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 11, 2024, 08:05:58 pm
Yeah, never gets old laying a trench on the toe edge!

Thinking a bit more - I don’t think it’s the setback. The stance is centred on the sidecut so on edge it shouldn’t be noticeable as it’s only the taper making it directional. Whereas in powder the massive difference in surface area between nose and tail kick in, and relative to that, and the stiffness, the stance is well setback. Best of both worlds!

How were the bindings?
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on March 12, 2024, 12:44:07 pm
Thinking a bit more - I don’t think it’s the setback. The stance is centred on the sidecut so on edge it shouldn’t be noticeable as it’s only the taper making it directional. Whereas in powder the massive difference in surface area between nose and tail kick in, and relative to that, and the stiffness, the stance is well setback. Best of both worlds!

How were the bindings?
Would be interesting to compare with my old setup - think probably it's just the fact that the toeside edge is so good that heelside feels like it lacks wheas it's actually pretty good. Did think maybe angling bindings further forward might give a bit more bite but never got round to testing - might just have to go out again next week  ;D

Bindings were pretty ace actually - very similar in stiffness to my old classics and the EST system really does give you a load of options and the feel is great... All in all I'm really happy with the setup - did get a bit of gear lust over my mates Amplid splitty which at 164 and stiff as fuck looked ace and went like a rocket on the downhills... Was going to do a half day swap but that was before the snow came... Wasn't going to give up mine for love nor money after that!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 12, 2024, 12:47:56 pm
Glad you scored!  Our trips seem to have missed powder every time since before Covid (there were bits on the side 2 years ago in St Anton, but it was too warm to stay good)
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 12, 2024, 01:38:43 pm
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Did think maybe angling bindings further forward might give a bit more bite

I was on +27 / +9 last time (it was super hardpack) and possibly getting too much bite. It does seem a lot harder to get as satisfying a carve on heelside, although I suspect technique is the issue for me.

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did get a bit of gear lust over my mates Amplid splitty which at 164 and stiff as fuck looked ace and went like a rocket on the downhills...

Ooh, what was it, Milligram? Some amazing deals on the Amplid site currently... I've had to hide my latest purchase!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 15, 2024, 07:15:34 am
https://youtu.be/Gm2gLbsahB8?si=m4tRcDn9vzSR8P02 For the older gents, there's stil life in the old dog yet.  Part of me feels a bit sad that the best of those days are now probably behind me (global warming, knees) but I guess it means I treasure each one more now.

Didn't manage to get a lot of boarding in this year. We had a couple of days in Austria en-route to Slovenia, but the place we booked was a bit low so the snow was not amazing - mainly skied, as I find that more fun if I'm mainly just bashing piste and messing around on the edges.

Had one day at Moltaller Gletcher, which if the snow had been better (it had snowed about 8-10cm, but clearly wasn't very cold even up to high levels), and the weather was clearer would be a great wee off piste haven - all good angles, non crevassed glacier and lots of lines in between the limited pistes. Again, was on the skis.

Still hoping for one more day (one of those late march mega dumps you get), but currently the weather is 15c so it's way more tempting to go climbing.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 15, 2024, 08:00:58 am
I thought you were back in blighty? I fear for some of the major Austrian resorts with bases  below 1000m (Kitzbuhel, Shladming, a lot of the Wilder Kaiser) guess they will need to rely on godolas to get up to the skiing more and more.

I ski 90% of the time these days too, but had my old board out on the pistes the last morning (very stiff Burton Baron midwide 168) and forgotten what fun it is to blast about on. Powder is a (rare) dilemma as I have full ski touring setup, but no board touring kit.

Seems for the Alps these days the trend is for more snow later in the season, and it quickly goes to crap in the warm weather.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: unclesomebody on March 15, 2024, 10:09:02 am
We managed to find a guide (Andy) via the ESF place in La Plagne. He pretty much only does off piste guiding so knew the terrain very, very well. He was on skis but is also a very talented snowboarder (coached some of the french team) so he was knowledgeable about where we could access and what I could be doing given I was the only snowboarder in the group.

After a quick test to make sure our self professed "expert" status wasn't bullshit, he took us over to the Couloir des Rossets #1 (https://fatmap.com/routeid/624958/couloir-des-rossets-1-with-isla?fmid=cp)which was quite a full on warm up. Steep, rocks on both sides, ice on the left (sunny side), and quite a bit of sluff but it ended up being a good test for the group. After we did that he said we could pretty much go anywhere on the North face of Bellecote so we headed up that way.

After looking at both Cairn and Canadian Couloirs, we decided to take a direct line into Canadian as there were zero tracks there.

Cairn: https://fatmap.com/discover/route/france/savoie/freeride-skiing/cairn-couloir/22635
Canadian: https://fatmap.com/discover/route/france/savoie/freeride-skiing/canadian-couloir/13143

The snow was still pretty good in the shade and that feeling of smashing powder turns on an untracked face never, ever gets old. I was whooping with delight.

Our exact route for the day is on this gpx: https://www.strava.com/activities/10951330259 - if you put the gpx into fatmap you'll get a decent idea of where we went and can see the other line options too. We did some other quite good bits of off piste so if you're confident of reading snow conditions and in a group with the right safety gear then you could follow our route.

The riding on the north face is mostly not that difficult. The Canadian Couloir was pretty chill but amazingly fun riding. It's got plenty of sections which aren't that steep so you can air off rocks/drops without ending up going 100km/h instantly. There are much, much more serious lines if you want to hike to the top. Our guide said he had done every line except one very steep and narrow chute from the very top.

At the bottom of the North face we followed a trail which in parts turned to rocks and mud. We had to get off and walk sections because there was no snow. We also saw the remnants of an absolutely huge avalanche at the very bottom where we crossed the stream (walked through it). Pretty scary to see just how deep it was. We then followed a nordic ski track which took us all the way down to a very decent restaurant (https://maps.app.goo.gl/LgiCfYdqXfnqfjgk9). From there we got a bus back down the valley then the Vanoise Express back over towards La Plagne side. 

Overall I'd say it's a great day out to do the north face for anyone who is decently competent with off piste riding. If I could, I would do this type of day out every day of my weeks away in the mountains as it's just so fun to be on a big face, with good now, and far away from any crowds.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 15, 2024, 10:45:59 am
Sounds amazing! Your gpx link is dead for me, though the Canadian couloir is on fatmap already. Did you do much else off the Bellecote? So much terrain down to the Bauches chair if you get the snow. Whole valley was closed due to unskiable ice for us.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: unclesomebody on March 15, 2024, 07:14:11 pm
We finished the day with a line down to the Bauches chair. Involved a very long heelside traverse to get to some cool terrain and then down through the tight trees before plopping onto the flatish traverse at the bottom. Poles helped at that point!

Should be obvious on my gpx which is here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kSFnwvrCrbtetIDH_NE5U3werzu73ADK?usp=sharing

Loads and loads more to explore... just need more snow and more time.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 15, 2024, 09:55:26 pm
Did you get across to Les Arcs? I was amazed by the potential there too. More snow seems to be the more critical factor...
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on March 27, 2024, 05:22:28 am
If anyone is going to the Aosta valley or further east in the next 10 days, it may either be amazing or deadly - check the cumulitive snow depth forecast on Windy - almost 2 metres predicted!

Were off to Engelberg for a day tomorrow (passing through) and, if we get there, we look to be getting 30cm today.  :icon_beerchug:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on March 27, 2024, 11:08:18 am
 :o :o :o
Now looking at flights and accomodation - just found out some mates are doing a quick hit to Cham which is getting 1.3m in the next week!!!

Trying to justify another trip away to the Mrs is going to be somewhat trickier  :whistle:
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 27, 2024, 11:16:52 am

Which snow forecast app/website are people using? Off to Flaine on Saturday.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on March 27, 2024, 11:42:49 am
https://wepowder.com/en/villages/flaine#grands-vans

Looks like you're on!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 27, 2024, 11:52:26 am
 :bounce:

Hopefully the kids can keep up.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2024, 02:14:03 pm
https://wepowder.com/en/villages/flaine#grands-vans

If you register on wepowder you get a free trial of the 14 day forecast if you want to peep further.

Galpinos, hopefully they open Gers bowl, and Lindars lift, some great terrain off the sides there. And watch for limestone crevasses!

And bizarre afternoon fog in Vernant bowl.

Worth reading the crazy history of the place.

https://alastairphilipwiper.com/blog/flaine-france#:~:text=Built%20in%20the%2060s%20by,in%20France%2C%20a%20prototype%20for

https://en.flaine.com/artistic-architectural-heritage
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 27, 2024, 02:30:20 pm

I did three winters in Flaine. Last Easter they didn't open Gers which was a bit of a ball ache, despite the snow being really good. Hoing for better this year as Easter is "earlier" so they might not be in full de-mob mode. Lindars should open, then I can hopefully do a quick tour up the Tete du Colonney.

Going with a massive group and a lot of kids so not as free to make the best of conditions as I would like but we shall see! I still have enough friends in resort to tag along on a fun adventure if I get a pass out.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2024, 02:59:05 pm
Fair enough, you clearly know it better than me! Gers opening does seem very random and inconsistent. Seems to go from closed to mogulled out in the space of a couple of hours. Guess you need to know a pisteur to be able to grab it at the right time.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on March 27, 2024, 03:31:14 pm
Gers takes a lot of avalanche controlling and there is a convex slope with a west facing aspect in the micdlle of the bowl near the lift that is pretty problematic late season.

I still think I know everyone in resort but faces change quickly and I left in 2008! My wife is reluctant to go Flaine as I am so painful when there apparently.....
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 09, 2024, 11:38:17 am
Three valleys came up trumps last week. Les Menuires is probably the cheapest place to stay and fairly well located in terms of getting around, we're planning on going back. Val Thorens looks a lot nicer than it used to. As with most of the Alps, snow was great high up, absent below 1800m. Whole area was pretty quiet, pretty sold on Easter now, seems it's only us and the Belgians are off.

We lost the first day to wind, they opened a couple of low lifts in the morning then shut them ten minutes before ESF pickup time. Chaos! I took the split out for a walk in the afternoon and it didn't look good. Full scottish conditions, wind scoured hardpack with a covering of sand, slab building in the lee. Woke up to 20cm of fresh in the village and light airs. Higher up it was a foot plus and pretty light, did some great runs in the morning under the bubble while getting our bearings. Cloud and snow came back in the afternoon. The week continued in this vein, powder was topped up a couple of times and fresh tracks were available every day if you looked a little past the obvious, although flat light was limiting at times. Highlights were a big powder run below the Grand Fond in VT, steep and deep with lots untracked, plus a guided afternoon down from the Cime Caron to the Refuge de Lou. ESF guide Matt was super chilled with a big mixed group and good fun, ended with waterskiiing across the Lac outlet. Final morning did the Grand Couloir in Courcheval which was pretty skiied out but I found some super steep powder down the edges of the cliffs. Gave me a lot of confidence for more gnarly stuff. There is a lot of controlled side country on the piste map nowadays which is great, good to do some reading/ looking/ learning on avalanches too.

Didn't use the split much as no one else had touring gear, and I was having so much fun on the Skeleton key my legs didn't have much appetite for a stiffer board. My brother-in-law bought a SK at the bargain deal and it was amazing (slash slightly irritating) to watch him turn into a better, more confident rider almost overnight. Had some minor issues with getting second click in the step ons in deep damp powder but a niggle rather than a performance issue. Struggling to face the year wait for more now!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on April 09, 2024, 11:52:46 am
He Shoots....... He Scores!!!!  :2thumbsup:

Sounds like a great trip - I had a chance to go to Cham last weekend and binned it at the last minute (the GF would have killed me) - my mates who went said it wasn't great - sounds like you timed it perfectly - Chapeau!



Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 09, 2024, 01:09:30 pm
Yeah we met some folks out just for the Easter weekend - they'd barely got out. Resort shut two days due to wind, and warm. Grim!

Probably rode more powder last week than the rest of my life put together. Being late season it got heavy fast, and we were a bit limited by flat light but had some amazing moments. Managed to get back for lunch with the boy every day too, to top it off he got moved mid-week up by ESF and came home with two badges!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Fultonius on April 09, 2024, 01:17:46 pm
Changing boards had the same affect on me JB - I'd all bit given up on snowboarding when I moved to Chamonix. My old board (Ride Timeless) was a bit too short and narrow, fully cambered and pretty stiff. As my skiing was improving and my snowboarding faltering, I just slowly stopped going out on the board. Whenever I did I would just get frustrated with how unforgiving the board was in deep snow. At good speed in open, steep ground it was fine, but as soon as it got tight and rolling, with trees, drops, flat spots I just found it was like trying to balance on top of a football - any sloppy technique was punished in another faceplant / tomahawk.

A good few years later I tried a more forgiving rental board on a trip, with 50cm new snow and my love was rekindled! It was just some mid range burton, but it got me hooked again. In the end I got a Slash Brainstorm which was bang on the money - easy to initiate turns in any snow, and very consistent whether it's on hardpack, power, chop. Landing drops felt like it was 2m long, not 161 - so stable and forgiving.  Some reviews say it has a limited top end for hardcore freeriding. that doesn't bother me any more - when you want to get up to speed quickly on short trips, having something more mellow and forgiving is much nicer than battling some top end jones monster!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 09, 2024, 07:43:26 pm
Fucking hell JB. That sounds like a great week!
Made me smile and feel warm and happy reading about it.
Next Easter is later in the month, but Sheffield schools will be off for the first two weeks in April. We've benefited from this before - empty beaches and cheap flights to Gran Canaria. I'm thinking about a trip in the first week of April next year. Probably just me and the boy due to GCSEs for the middle child.
VT was on my list, but if Les Menuires is cheaper I might look there.
Were you able to ride back to the apartment for lunch?
Did you try the stuff down the Plan Bouchet? I like the look of that from what the map shows.
I'm really psyched to get the lad on more off piste. He got a good feel for it this year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 09, 2024, 08:45:58 pm
Yeah it was a classic week! Funnily enough after La Plagne in Jan I was thinking of Jasna next year!

We stayed in Reberty which is the highest bit, chalet at 2000m. Limited services: three ski shops, one overpriced mini mart, a pub and a couple of restaurants, one good and cheap the other one pricey. Some complaints about night life in the group but suited me fine. It was <100m walk to the pistes either side, you could ride down to the main village and all other lifts or walk up to the Mount de La Chambre chair in 5 mins which was the best option for first tracks without queues. Closest to ski in/out I’ve had this time of year.

Didn’t get over to Bouchet, mainly due to being limited to half days out. That’s the highest lift in VT right? The stuff under Cime Caron was more obvious and north facing so headed there first. The Chasse piste was also closed due to lack of snow, that would be much the quickest link to VT otherwise.

Most of the adults had been to 3V before but still blown away by the amount or terrain on offer. Local knowledge definitely helps, we had Jo with us who is a Meribel regular but it looked painfully low last week. He had good knowledge on the free ride zones off Mont Vallon, Merlet and Saulire. The links between the resorts are surprisingly limited so you have to be quite on it to get about.

My nephew Stanley is doing GCSEs, and had forced revision every evening. I’ve never seen him as triumphant as when he landed the waterski!
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 09, 2024, 11:35:31 pm
We're still going to Jasna in February next year. I'm just getting greedy for a second trip.
I love spring snow and steep slush, so most places would suit me in April.
I'm contemplating the possibility of getting a season pass for Jasna and surrounding resorts (529 Euro), but struggling with the flying Vs climate change thing
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 15, 2024, 09:00:15 am
We just got back from a week in Serfaus. Great car free little town, decent enough size for a few good restaurants and pubs, even a clip and climb (I got fastest time of the week on the speed wall!) and, randomly, the shortest and highest underground train in the world linking one side of the town to the other. Mountain is good, plenty enough to keep you busy for a week, loads of side country with a short hike in or out, and not one single fixed grip or surface lift on the major lifts on the whole mountain (one or two rope spinners or short pomas / Ts on flat sections. Unfortunately it was unseasonably warm (but furstratingly, it's cold and snowy this week!!), so a bit slushy in the beginner's area, but the kids say they liked skiing in it?? We got about 10cm of fresh one night, which I managed to hoover up a bit of the next day, but it was slushed out the day after. There are some great north facing slopes over the back of Fiss too, which can be accessed by a free shuttle and gondola to the top and back down, which saved a lot of tricky traversing with the kids. The place was practically deserted, i don't think i waited more than a minute for a lift.

There are no British operators going there, so it was all DIY; we used the TUI flight, booked a transfer, and got a good last minute deal on an apartment. If you are staying in town you get a reduced rate on lift tickets too.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: galpinos on April 15, 2024, 09:48:32 am
https://wepowder.com/en/villages/flaine#grands-vans

If you register on wepowder you get a free trial of the 14 day forecast if you want to peep further.

Galpinos, hopefully they open Gers bowl, and Lindars lift, some great terrain off the sides there. And watch for limestone crevasses!

And bizarre afternoon fog in Vernant bowl.

Worth reading the crazy history of the place.

https://alastairphilipwiper.com/blog/flaine-france#:~:text=Built%20in%20the%2060s%20by,in%20France%2C%20a%20prototype%20for

https://en.flaine.com/artistic-architectural-heritage

Had an amazing week! Got a virus right at the end which has left me in bed for a week so slow to update. Gers never opened as one onf the lift pillars broke but we managed a lot of really good skiing off piste in good powder, the highlights being a run from the top of the DMC, down the Diamond Noir and all the way to the bottom with fresh tracks all the way as well as on a family ski morning, getting to the top of Aup de Varn just as Lindars opened and my wife, very selflessly, said she'd stay with all the kids and I went and had a top to bottom none stop run of untacked blower pow. Managed to find Laura and the kids at the Aujon drag with kids having fallen off the button left right and center, carnage. Think she was regretting her decision!

Only bad bit was some poor decision making by me skiing off piste in poor vis. Excitement at being kid free in good snow and some faulty "local knowledge" on my part could have lead to a bad outcome. Thankfully it didn't but it was sobering reminder of the fact I am a holdiay punter now and of the heuristic traps of group skiing.

It seemed like it was a popular week in Flaine for climbers with Leo Houlding and Steve McClure both being there.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 15, 2024, 11:35:20 am
Next Easter is later in the month, but Sheffield schools will be off for the first two weeks in April.

We were trying to figure out what will happen with school holidays next Easter, as for us locally it's always the first 2 weeks in April irrespective of when Easter falls. Crazy late next year.
Title: Re: snooooooooooooowboarding
Post by: SA Chris on April 17, 2024, 08:52:56 am

Had an amazing week!......
It seemed like it was a popular week in Flaine for climbers with Leo Houlding and Steve McClure both being there.

Sounds ace. I've yet to hit Flaine on a great powder day, came close once, but Vernant was closed due to high wind, so hoovered up what we could in and around the Samoen / Morillon side (still tons TBF). Hard not to default to Praz de Lys though as it's usually dead quiet even on powder days and doesn't get tracked out. Worth a visit if you are nearby with a car.   
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