AnCap session - usual 2 sets attempting 200moves overall. Lattice report confirmed that I should keep focusing on fingerboard and AnCap
Quote from: shark on January 01, 2017, 06:52:58 pmAnCap session - usual 2 sets attempting 200moves overall. Lattice report confirmed that I should keep focusing on fingerboard and AnCapWhat are you doing for your AnCap workouts? 200 moves sounds like too many moves/too low intensity?
Classic AnCap structure.
3m 'high/long' at around 65 degrees.
25 x 4 moves up and down the systems board with 2 mins rest between intervals. Then 10 minutes rest with a second set. 25 moves takes 55-60 secs. Classic AnCap structure.
S: Fingerboard. 5 sets of 6 x (5 on, 5 off) on the BM2K smallest edges. Boxed out of my mind. Doe anyone else get ridiculously pumped doing repeaters? S:
Thoughts on the ancap/ not ancap front:1. 25 moves in 55sec is very fast, even for a circuit you know well. Having a longer contraction might be useful whether that's from more foot moves, harder moves or whatever. Especially given that you're nowhere near that speed on your project.2. Ancap is a spectrum. This is the upper end of the time frame and the lower end of the work:rest ratio IMO, I.e. we're operating at the pumpy end of ancap. If it were me I'd advise doing some more stuff on shorter problems with proportionally longer rests as the strength crossover is likely to be higher and you need to get stronger. Harder moves will likely also force your moves per minute lower as talked about above. In any case, make sure you're powered out rather than pumped.
nai / barrows / tomThank you. Not for the first time it seems I have fucked up. I have been doing this routine for so long I'm unsure how I got the wrong end of the stick in the first place but I have checked Binney's guidelines and I should be doing what you all suggest.
Right. I've found what I based it on which was in Dave Binney's presentation here: http://ukbouldering.com/media/pdf/principlestraining.pdfOn page 8 it says:Level 3 Anaerobic Capacity• Following a warm up, you need to start off with a climb at regular on-sight grade, followed immediately by 2 x (4 x 25M) Rest 60s intervals, 15 min setsHowever, that doesn't entirely square with his guidance on the table on page 10
Quote from: 36chambers on January 01, 2017, 08:05:48 pmS: Fingerboard. 5 sets of 6 x (5 on, 5 off) on the BM2K smallest edges. Boxed out of my mind. Doe anyone else get ridiculously pumped doing repeaters? S:Yes, I do. It feels like a slightly different pump to actual climbing though. I suppose I probably do more 7 on 3 off than 5/5, I cannot remember which feels pumpier at the moment, as i haven't done any in anger for ages.
M - 6.8km run. Despite what the Andersons say about heavy legs, I intend to keep running at least once per week, and maybe think about a trail race or half-marathon in the spring
Quote from: TobyD on January 01, 2017, 10:34:36 pmQuote from: 36chambers on January 01, 2017, 08:05:48 pmS: Fingerboard. 5 sets of 6 x (5 on, 5 off) on the BM2K smallest edges. Boxed out of my mind. Doe anyone else get ridiculously pumped doing repeaters? S:Yes, I do. It feels like a slightly different pump to actual climbing though. I suppose I probably do more 7 on 3 off than 5/5, I cannot remember which feels pumpier at the moment, as i haven't done any in anger for ages.I opted for 5 on 5 off because I always get too pumped doing 7 on 3 off. But they may be equally as pumpy for me. On the 5 on 5 off I felt like my forearms had doubled in size and were close to bursting. A sensation I haven't had since I stopped sport climbing a few years back. It's interesting as I don't get this kind of intense pump even when doing 1 min on 1 min off foot-on campusing till failure. Will probably stick to one arm max hangs, as I'm only really after pure strength.
Quote from: 36chambers on January 03, 2017, 10:17:19 amQuote from: TobyD on January 01, 2017, 10:34:36 pmQuote from: 36chambers on January 01, 2017, 08:05:48 pmS: Fingerboard. 5 sets of 6 x (5 on, 5 off) on the BM2K smallest edges. Boxed out of my mind. Doe anyone else get ridiculously pumped doing repeaters? S:Yes, I do. It feels like a slightly different pump to actual climbing though. I suppose I probably do more 7 on 3 off than 5/5, I cannot remember which feels pumpier at the moment, as i haven't done any in anger for ages.I opted for 5 on 5 off because I always get too pumped doing 7 on 3 off. But they may be equally as pumpy for me. On the 5 on 5 off I felt like my forearms had doubled in size and were close to bursting. A sensation I haven't had since I stopped sport climbing a few years back. It's interesting as I don't get this kind of intense pump even when doing 1 min on 1 min off foot-on campusing till failure. Will probably stick to one arm max hangs, as I'm only really after pure strength.So this is the Crusher 5 sets of 5 secs on 5secs off with 5 mins off between sets? If so, no I dont get drastically pumped - I certainly don't fail due to being pumped - my fingers just tend to collapse if doing a half crimp session or slide off if doing a drag/chisel session. If we are doing the same thing I don't know what this says about me or you.
Shark the blatantly foreseeable outcome is that you're going to end up sending the Oak this year by training exactly what many on here - Dave, me and others, said to do years ago - get stronger on lime crimps, and do some basic short PE/AnCap work. Which you skirted around for years. Ain't rocket surgery.The campus board is ace and very simple to use for that Ancap workout Tommy/Barrows talks about. That sort of fitness responds so quickly when trained (YMMV). Strength doesn't. It's pretty much what I did just at the start of my redpoint sessions on Oak. 5 PE sessions, to give me the beans to complete the traverse without powering out.