[abarro81]

Usually I buy protein from myprotein - it used to be £90 for a 5kg bag... but now it's £140! Bulk powders also up to £130... beta alanine also doubled... anyone know anywhere that's still cheap? Obviously there are always deals of 30-50% off, but that used to be the case even at the old prices... 5% inflation my arse...

[Bradders]

Wow, what's gone on there?! I bought 2.5kg of protein powder from myprotein in October for £32 including their seemingly permanent discount code. Same today is £50! Bizarre.

[teestub]

Appears to be largely Covid supply chain issue related now filtering through
https://www.fitnessmag.co.za/its-time-to-buy-protein-prices-set-to-rise-up-to-36/

[Bradders]

Interesting.

Looks like the vegan / pea protein options are still holding at a lower price, might be worth a go. I've no idea whether they're as good as bog standard whey though.

[jwi]

Vegan protein is a lot better for the environment. However, it mixes and tastes a lot worse than whey protein.

YMMV

[cheque]

They seem to have stopped making the type I always got entirely so I had to switch to a slightly different type that has the same amount of protes in but tastes slightly of cheese. 

MyProtein’s a bit like DFS though isn’t it? They have some kind of offer on almost all the time so only the rich and/ or foolish pay full price. If you check regularly and are prepared to buy in advance of when you need it you can find ridiculous discounts. Best seem to be when they have “discount decreasing by 1% every five minutes” days- if you get in when they start at about 8AM it’s like 80% off.

[teestub]

Looks like the vegan / pea protein options are still holding at a lower price, might be worth a go. I've no idea whether they're as good as bog standard whey though.

All the ones I tried back in my vegan days were totally disgusting, this may have changed in the interim decade!  Be worth getting samples if you can so you don’t end up with a kilo of unusable powder.

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Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet). 

[mrjonathanr]

Usually I buy protein from myprotein - it used to be £90 for a 5kg bag... but now it's £140! Bulk powders also up to £130... beta alanine also doubled... anyone know anywhere that's still cheap? Obviously there are always deals of 30-50% off, but that used to be the case even at the old prices... 5% inflation my arse...

Whatever the price today, they’ll discount it heavily coming up to New Year’s Eve. I’d check again after Christmas.

[Wellsy]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet). 

I try to stay as natural and unprocessed as possible generally but a couple of scoops of whey protein in the shaker really helps wash down the daily Dianabol in my experience.

[sheavi]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

I think the most up to date guidelines advise between 1.5-2g per 1kg for the more active?

[abarro81]

I like using it to flavour my morning porridge..

Who knew whey commodity pricing was so volatile!

[Adam Lincoln]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

How do you go about getting your protein in mid session, and also straight after climbing to maximise recovery? Do you carry a chicken breast around with you? Or a tin of tuna?

Everyone always bangs the 'I get my protein from my food' drum but its not always about that its about convenience..... For my at least.

And like Alex says, protein is nice to have in your porridge in the morning and sets you off nicely for the day. yes you could have 3 eggs, but I like a bit of variety.

[jwi]

I like using it to flavour my morning porridge..

in which case I would stay away from pea-based protein!

[User deactivated.]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

I think the most up to date guidelines advise between 1.5-2g per 1kg for the more active?

Depends which study you look at. I don't think the dust has settled. Back in my weightlifting days I weighed up to 100kg lean and was deadlifting over 250kg on no more than 100g of protein per day, so I figured I certainly don't need more than that now!

I like using it to flavour my morning porridge..

Who knew whey commodity pricing was so volatile!

Chocolate whey porridge with whole milk and peanut butter mixed in cannot be beaten!

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

How do you go about getting your protein in mid session, and also straight after climbing to maximise recovery? Do you carry a chicken breast around with you? Or a tin of tuna?

Everyone always bangs the 'I get my protein from my food' drum but its not always about that its about convenience..... For my at least.

And like Alex says, protein is nice to have in your porridge in the morning and sets you off nicely for the day. yes you could have 3 eggs, but I like a bit of variety.

Protein timing has such a negligible impact that for me it's not worth considering, and I'm generally a sucker for marginal gains! As long as I get 3 to 4 meals.in each day I'm happy. Fair play for variety, I have no problems with protein powder at all and I've used it loads in the past but I was just reminding that its not necessary if cost is becoming a concern.

[Bradders]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

I think the most up to date guidelines advise between 1.5-2g per 1kg for the more active?

You obviously haven't seen Liam's muscles! 

Powder's just very convenient and until now was certainly the cheapest way of getting protein.

[Adam Lincoln]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

I think the most up to date guidelines advise between 1.5-2g per 1kg for the more active?

Depends which study you look at. I don't think the dust has settled. Back in my weightlifting days I weighed up to 100kg lean and was deadlifting over 250kg on no more than 100g of protein per day, so I figured I certainly don't need more than that now!

I like using it to flavour my morning porridge..

Who knew whey commodity pricing was so volatile!

Chocolate whey porridge with whole milk and peanut butter mixed in cannot be beaten!

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

How do you go about getting your protein in mid session, and also straight after climbing to maximise recovery? Do you carry a chicken breast around with you? Or a tin of tuna?

Everyone always bangs the 'I get my protein from my food' drum but its not always about that its about convenience..... For my at least.

And like Alex says, protein is nice to have in your porridge in the morning and sets you off nicely for the day. yes you could have 3 eggs, but I like a bit of variety.

Protein timing has such a negligible impact that for me it's not worth considering, and I'm generally a sucker for marginal gains! As long as I get 3 to 4 meals.in each day I'm happy. Fair play for variety, I have no problems with protein powder at all and I've used it loads in the past but I was just reminding that its not necessary if cost is becoming a concern.

Having followed your max hang protocol posts and now this you strike me as someone who does what they think is right and thats that. There's no reasoning, its your way and thats that. Don't mean that in a bad way, good luck to you.

[User deactivated.]

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

I think the most up to date guidelines advise between 1.5-2g per 1kg for the more active?

Depends which study you look at. I don't think the dust has settled. Back in my weightlifting days I weighed up to 100kg lean and was deadlifting over 250kg on no more than 100g of protein per day, so I figured I certainly don't need more than that now!

I like using it to flavour my morning porridge..

Who knew whey commodity pricing was so volatile!

Chocolate whey porridge with whole milk and peanut butter mixed in cannot be beaten!

Has everyone tried just getting their protein from food? I get 1 gram per kg of bodyweight without trying at all (fish, chicken and greek yoghurt are staples in my diet).

How do you go about getting your protein in mid session, and also straight after climbing to maximise recovery? Do you carry a chicken breast around with you? Or a tin of tuna?

Everyone always bangs the 'I get my protein from my food' drum but its not always about that its about convenience..... For my at least.

And like Alex says, protein is nice to have in your porridge in the morning and sets you off nicely for the day. yes you could have 3 eggs, but I like a bit of variety.

Protein timing has such a negligible impact that for me it's not worth considering, and I'm generally a sucker for marginal gains! As long as I get 3 to 4 meals.in each day I'm happy. Fair play for variety, I have no problems with protein powder at all and I've used it loads in the past but I was just reminding that its not necessary if cost is becoming a concern.

Having followed your max hang protocol posts and now this you strike me as someone who does what they think is right and thats that. There's no reasoning, its your way and thats that. Don't mean that in a bad way, good luck to you.

Haha that is utter bollocks!

My current max hang protocol gave me my best ever results in the past, hence trying it again. I haven't tried to pretend that it's sustainable and I'll soon change to something else when i plateau. I didn't ask for any advice and no one suggested not to do it, so using that to justify me being someone that cannot be reasoned with is nonsense.

However, you tried to challenge me on it out of the blue, coming into a thread you self admittedly don't normally visit, just to suggest I didn't know what I was doing. No advice given for me to refuse, just an attempt to pull me down? 

Now onto diet, i make just one suggestion that you can get enough protein from diet alone if the cost of whey is a concern, and you appear again to challenge me on protein timing. Thats fine, and I explain that timing hasn't made any difference FOR ME, but now you're bitching that I can't be reasoned with. Amazing! I even agreed that protein powder is absolutely fine, that I've used it plenty myself, and variety is as good a reason as any to use it!

There are many posts on this forum where I'm asking for advice, but you'll struggle to find many where I've turned down advice and simply said my way is better.

[moose]

...and you appear again to challenge me on protein timing. Thats fine, and I explain that timing hasn't made any difference FOR ME,

Happy to be shot down by someone with better knowledge of this area (or a pubmed vigilante!), but I vaguely recall (probably from the Science of Sport website / podcast) that the notion of a "protein window" - having to eat protein within 2 hours of exercise - was from a really badly designed and / or widely misinterpreted study.  Basically, it compared people who had supplementary protein within 2 hours of exercise with people who had no supplementary protein at all.  Studies since, which compared people with equal protein intakes, found no urgency re timings. 

[joel182]

Vegan protein is a lot better for the environment. However, it mixes and tastes a lot worse than whey protein.

YMMV

If using vegan protein powders I recommend blending in something like a Nutribullet rather than mixing in a normal shaker, results in a much nicer shake.

[Wellsy]

I believe that if you're looking for hypertrophy in big compound lifts (bench, dead, squat etc) then there's basically no such thing as too much protein and 2g per kg would be good, more wouldn't hurt.

As climbers outside of certain training phases that's probably not necessary. I did see some research that said the more trained someone was the better their muscle reacted to a higher protein intake but beyond 120g there was no discernable improvement, I'll try to dig it out.

Thing is you can't really have too much protein so if you just whack in some shakes nothing bad will happen.

[DAVETHOMAS90]

My Whey may be better still. Don't know:

https://www.bulk.com/uk/pure-whey-protein.html?view=ppc&pid=3249&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqvaNBhDLARIsAH1Pq50DqwKBJLpm6X0nilfd-OYbxaFUQ81NqIOk7wPk3rjrYJRU5U5NN6IaAj-EEALw_wcB

Liam, I'm being lazy. Stick up a link to your hangs protocol please  

Moose, that's really interesting. Thanks for adding that. Will check it out 

Plenty of information about the impact of ingesting too much protein, but no clear cut advice/conclusions as far as I can tell, other than the standard advice of "stick to something lower than 2g protein/KG body weight".

Worth considering the different proteins in normal whole milk. Short article on the difference between whey and casein in whole milk:

https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/a19536623/is-milk-healthy-0/

[duncan]

Happy to be shot down by someone with better knowledge of this area (or a pubmed vigilante!), but I vaguely recall (probably from the Science of Sport website / podcast) that the notion of a "protein window" - having to eat protein within 2 hours of exercise - was from a really badly designed and / or widely misinterpreted study.  Basically, it compared people who had supplementary protein within 2 hours of exercise with people who had no supplementary protein at all.  Studies since, which compared people with equal protein intakes, found no urgency re timings.

Heard similar but just failed to find it: the nutrition literature is so shoddy I lose the will after not long spent scanning abstracts. It's certainly useful for protein powder manufacturers to promote this idea.

Thing is you can't really have too much protein so if you just whack in some shakes nothing bad will happen.

You might eat less whole food so missing out on micronutrients and fibre? Your microbiome (and taste buds) may not thank you.

And like Alex says, protein is nice to have in your porridge in the morning and sets you off nicely for the day. yes you could have 3 eggs, but I like a bit of variety.

Sardines or other sustainable whole fish, on toast, with a squeeze of lemon to cut through the oil. Will also give you collagen and vitamin C if you think that's helpful (I'm in the bald men eating hair camp).

[petejh]

My protein breakfast of choice is almond butter pancake: 2 eggs, dollop of almond butter, one banana. Blend. Fry mixture in butter. Serve with berries and nuts on top.

Porridge can get in the sea.

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Liam, I'm being lazy. Stick up a link to your hangs protocol please  

It's nothing clever, I'm essentially just severely overtraining and doing max hangs every day and sometimes twice a day for a few weeks. On paper it shouldn't work, but it has for me so i don't question it.