[jfw]

i' am guessing you have a boxing rope, more



than

[Houdini]

Yes, though that looks a wee bit more sci-fi than mine; metal on the grips is pants, mine are covered in chalk.

Mine cost €12 and they're ace (2nd rope)

[underground]

I looked at ebay, and they're all leather skipping ropes. Where does one procure a metallic one, in Englande?

[Houdini]

Try a martial arts shop.   


Hills.  There's no hills to run up but I have found a vast flight of steps. Will that do?  I feel rinsed afterwards:  I attack them as fast as I can two steps at a time.   

[BenF]

Yeah, a good sized set of stairs could give some great interval training.  There used to be an annual stair running challenge event in Liverpool, down by the Pier Head, on some huge set of stairs. 

[Jaspersharpe]

There's that race up the Empire State building too that looks hardcore........

http://www.esbnyc.com/tourism/tourism_specialevents_runup_previous.cfm


.........9 minutes 33 seconds sounds ridiculously quick.

And before Houdini smites me again for posting about something I don't participate in I'd like to point out that I'm a lapsed runner. School cross country and 800m champion. I've just smoked too many fags since then. 

[BenF]

I'm a lapsed runner.

Is a very good one of those called a prolapsed runner?  Sounds nasty.

[lagerstarfish]

Yeah, a good sized set of stairs could give some great interval training.

I try to run all the stairs at the Hallamshire hospital whenever I'm there. Leaves my leg muscles and lungs feeling well used without hurting the joints. Must start timing myself. Walking all the way back down with legs of jelly is a very strange feeling (reluctant to enter a lift full of people when I'm panting and sweating with the veins on my head popping out like hosepipes).

[Houdini]

And before Houdini smites me again for posting about something I don't participate in 

Hard but Fair, Jasper.  Hard but fair.

[Houdini]

a prolapsed runner?  Sounds nasty.

Indeed.  I semi-prolapsed one time on the toilet (having taken a lot of magic 'shrooms).  Had to push it back in.  Not unconnectedly, this was also the occassion I barfed in my pants as they sat round my ankles, whilst on the jobbie.

[Houdini]

Urrggh!

And before breakfast too.




Achilles tendons, mine are beginning to turn aginst me.  I wake up with an unusual tightness followed by a click or two for the first few dozen steps.  Usually some feelings of nervous electrical interference; though this has also occurred later in the day & particularly when I goose-step(!). 

Playing Doc I think they're tightening-up due to insufficient post-run stretching.  Does this sound familiar to any runners?

[webbo]

when i was younger i ran 3 times aweek as well as climbing,my recollection was i managed this quite successfully for an extended period.however on reading my diary of the time recently i was always having some problem or other.usually achilles/calf problems.every time i try to get back in to it now i usuall do ok for a week or 2 but so as i extend the distance/time i get achilles problems.apparently the older you get the more likely these are if you have a lay off running.

this was my answer to your original post.

[webbo]

Must feel great running on a pukka track - all that bounce. 


And what stretching are people doing?

i once saw a physio who was a runner,she reckoned the evidence for stretching as injury prevention/recovery was pretty flawed.
also last year i injured my calf climbing,trying some dyno.yes i know i should know better at my age.anyhow it responded to treatment and cleared up alot sooner than the physio expected.
this made him speculate that it may not have been torn/ruptured tissue but a little known condition which happens when you stretch before exercise the muscle than gets the message here comes hard work/pain and goes into spasm which feels like a tear.
the advise was to do long gradual stretching post exercise.

i also posted this.

[Houdini]

Cheers oh wise one,


What can I do to turn the tide?  Stop running?  Massage?  (thoroughly fucking aghast smiley)  

You are fast today, patients to kill huh?  I don't stretch before.

[webbo]

buy a bike.

[lagerstarfish]

Are you going too fast or too far? That idea of "finishing strong" applies to running too.
Starting too fast? Chasing improvements? Running like an overly developed weight training turkey? My Aunt snapped her Achilles tendon by launching into a fast run without any warming up.
Have a go at underdoing it for a while. Think "underdone turkey".

[webbo]

i would have thought houdi should just think turkey

[Houdini]

You Seer, you.

Yesterday my steed "fashion pegasus" was stolen.  I'd done everything to encourage thieves to take it over the last two years:  never ever locking it.  Maintenence?  Perish the thought.  It was a recovered bike, was never good, hence my insistance that nothing should be done to it, not even air in the front tyre; no rear break.  Extreme, but I thought that would be enough to dissuade thieves.  Apparently not.  Hope the beggar(s) haven't hurt themselves on it!

Here is a rare locked (by Fraudini) pic.  As you can see, this is not a bike one would risk a conviction/no-brakes crash for:



Matters not, I've another recovered bike in t'cellar.


Lagers - Seriously, I am plodder, or at least I think I plod.  I'll start w/improved footwear, and less frequent running, more stretching.

But yes, I figure overenthusiasm/age to be implicated, somewhere.


*gobble gobble*

[lagerstarfish]

I reccommend learning some technique

[Houdini]

Too fast or too far.


Unsure, I won't stop till I'm sweating.   Yesterdays plod was for one and one half hours.  Gentle w/a short stride.

Technique, genau.

[webbo]

how often do you run. i would reckon that to be comfy running for 11/2 hours you would need at least 2 or 3 shorter runs per week and to have built up to this over 6 to 12 months.

[Houdini]

Approximately 4 months of 40-60 mins every 3rd day (tho biked regularly for 3 months before starting runing).  Occassionally I'll run every 2nd day.  Usually not though.  I find every 2nd day makes my lower shin ache too much.  2 - 3 days rests seems nice though.   

I'm not a slave to schedule, mind.  Routine gets broken w/bouldering/swimming/other training.


I look at it on paper.  You will tell me I'm over-training.

[webbo]

the trouble with going from biking to running is heart and lungs wise you can go for longer than your leg s can take.you should start with 10/15mins and build up from that.

[Duma]

Echoing Webbo's comments above - take it way slow to begin with. Running's pretty high impact compared to most activities, and if you're reasonably fit to begin with, it's easy enough to screw knees/ankles without sweating too much.

I seem to be managing to run thrice weekly alongside climbing 4x (is there an equivalent of thrice for 4?) on this schedule, though to be honest I'll either bin one of the climbing sessions or the long run will be curtailed most weeks. Still, no tweaks yet, and I've been (attempting) this plan for the last month or so...
day1 Climb (bouldering)
day2 Run - threshold (6m)
day3 Climb (fingerboard) easy run (4-5m)
day4 Climb (routes or circuits)
day5 Run - long (ish - 9m)
day6 Climb (bouldering)
day7 Rest

But keeping priorities in line - I'm out of the Bath Half as it conflicts with a font trip!

[Houdini]

That's a bummer, I thought about entering w/you . . .