[Paz]

I had just thought about how the phrase still made me uncomfortable (due to my PC conditioning) before I used it, despite its use in hip hop being copyright NWA 1989 or something.  Thought it made it illustrated what type of music it was anyway so it were a bit helpful. 

Obviously there're offensive connotations attached to it, but anyway:

If a black person calls a fellow black person that then I say fine you can call your self what you like, especially if it stuffs one to the white supremacists by hijacking their favourite offensive term. 

If a white calls a white that, I'd guess they're both showing mutual appreciation of that type of hip hop. 

It is possible that a black person could call me that (I'm an over thoughtful white twat in case you didn't know) and make me laugh.

However you wouldn't call a black person that, (unless you knew 'em really really well, or was quoting rhymes, or were both using far too much gangsta terminology) or would you. 

If I manage to get away with calling any of my black friends or my house mate* that without offending them at all, I'll be sure to let you know. 

* For the record she was mortified when I called her a Cockney.

Apologies for UKC-esque banality.

[Three Nine]

eh??

[Bubba]

especially if it stuffs one to the white supremacists by hijacking their favourite offensive term.

I think that's the key point.

I know you're an intelligent bloke and would only use the word as an illustration but I edited it simply because I don't feel comfortable about being on this forum and indexed by search engines, etc - nothing personal

[Houdini]

Golly!



Paige is considered beautiful by most men, yet her personality is such that it doesn’t intimidate other women. After being dumped one too many times, she devises a plan guaranteed to keep her from getting hurt again.

[Bubba]

WTF

[Houdini]

Booty!



Riddim?               

Aye!

[lagerstarfish]

As Ice T said in his song Straight Up Wigga on the Origiwal Gangster album...

"Damn right I'm a wigga
and I don't care what you are
Cause I'm a Capitaal W I double G E R
Black people might get mad
Cause they don't see
That they're looked upon
As a wigga just like me
I'm a wigga not a Colored man
Or a Black or a Negro
Or an Afro American I'm all that
Yes I was born in America true
Does South Central
Look like America to you?
I'm a wigga a straight up wigga
From a hard school
Whatever you are
I don't care, that is you fool
I'm loud and proud
Well endowedd with the big beef
Out on the corner
I hang out like a house thief
So you can call me dumb or crazy
Ignornt, stupid, inferior or lazy
Silly or foolish
But I'm badder and bigger
And most of all
I'm a straight up wigga

I'm a wigga in America
and that much I flaunt
Cause when I see what I like
Yo I take what I want
I'm not the only one
That's why I'm not bitter
Cause everybody is a wigga to a wigga!
America was stole from the Indians
show and prove, what was that?
A straight up wigga move
A low down shame
Yo it's straight insane
Yet they compalin
When a wigga snatch
Their gold chains
What is wigga suppose to do?
Wait around for a handout
From a wigga like you?
That why a low down wigga gets hyped
But I'm not a wigga of that type
I'm a steak and lobster eatin'
Billionaire meet
Cash money makin', movin' shakin'
Corporate jet glidin'
Limousine ridin'
Writin' hits, filthy rich
Straight up wigga!

Now I'm gonna write this song
Though the radio won't play this
But I got freedom of speech
So I'm a say it"

Word, homes, WORD

[Houdini]

homes

  ???  Probably schmokin' some of that Black mans' weed... eh?

[Paz]

Just put myself in context having pissed myself watching Crank again:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/

"Is everything alright in there?"
"It's cool, there's just a white Wigga in here with a gun to my head, that's all"
-Ruckus as many black guys enter toting pieces-
"Come on now, you don't want to act like them Somalian Wiggas"

"Does it look like I got cunt written on my forehead?"

OWTTE

Cheers Bubba too.

[lagerstarfish]

"Does it look like I got cunt written on my forehead?"

I know a man who really does have "cunt" tatooed on his forehead. He has said to me "do ah look like ahve cunt writ on my forredd". Wad tick or what?

[Houdini]

Reminds me of this crusty scrote I met on a ANL demo a decade back.


Crusty (with a skull badly tattooed on each cheek) to me:  What are you lookin' at?   ???

[saltbeef]

what was your reply?
i hope it was "your shit tattooes crusty"

[Houdini]

If only...



I tossed the poor unfortunate a guinea, and said, SHOESHINE Boooooy!

[Paz]

At school there were plans afoot to tattoo a swastika into a guy with a skin head's scalp (in permanent marker).  That would've been funny. 

I was going to call my a new route Um bongo when I do it, but now it'll just look like I've copied you H.

http://www.umbongo.com/

"Way down deep in the middle of the Congo, a hippo took an apricot, a guava and a mango. He stuck it with the others, and he danced a dainty tango.

The rhino said, "I know, we'll call it Um Bongo", Um Bongo, Um Bongo, They drink it in the Congo.

The python picked the passion fruit, the marmoset the mandarin. The parrot painted packets, that the whole caboodle landed in.

So when it comes to sun and fun and goodness in the jungle, They all prefer the sunny funny one they call Um Bongo!"

[Houdini]

Death by UMBONGO!



Don't get those wiggaz in a twist, Paz!  Umbongo is a fine name, why not use it?  I'm used to people copying me, one more won't hurt 


Ah Chris High, where are you now?




Chris High was/is? a fat kid I went to school with.  He was 4' 3" tall.  Unremarkable in all things excepting his shortness and abilty to recite the Theme from Umbongo at a rare rate of knots...   Ah...  (whistful smiley)

[Yossarian]

Make that two. Although it's not really copying when the name was suggested to me some two months ago. I have invented a Nigerian arms dealing monster called Kado Umbongo. Who is assisted by his unpleasant sidekick Dr Mbembe...

It's a great name.

[Houdini]

Kado is great but I think Jüssi (Yooe-si) is better.

Juicy Umbongo, see what I did there?

[Falling Down]

I thought it was "Death by Bongo...", a classic schoolyard joke from when I was a lad; neatly dissected, re-assembled and re-told in a spectacularly funny fashion by Brian and his mates in a curry house in Royston Vasey.

[Yossarian]

Very clever.

He was Kado Kituti, but Kituti sounds like quite a nice name...

Juicy would be a nice name for an Austrian girl.

Juicy Lipz

[Paz]

I wondered about the League of Gentleman thing too but it's "Death by Mau Mau". 

[Stoat]

I don't think it's racist, I thought that the modern useage of 'wigga' was the same as 'chav'. Useless, violent, antisocial drains on society. I've got black mates, but as far as I'm concerned they just have darker skin than me. If those who tell me in their 'songs' that they are 'wiggas' I am quite happy to call them 'wiggas'. The black people I know don't to my knowledge 'pack uzzis or ' beat their hos' so I don't call them 'wiggas'. If there was a less PC view about shite we would not have this thread.

[Bubba]

You probably haven't seen the original topic that this topic is about

The actual word used wasn't "Wigga".

[grimer]

Is that right FD. Funny 'cos my mate Brian put up a route at The Green Lizard crag near dublin, which he called Death by Wogga Wogga, the local variation on Bongo Bongo.

What You Want? Death, or Wogga Wogga?

One of the all-time greats, that one.

And this, is especially for Cofe

A man walks into the doctor:

Man: "Doc I can't stop singing The Green, Green Grass of Home."

Doctor: "That  sounds like Tom Jones syndrome."

Man: "Is it common?"

Doctor: "It's not unusual."

[Bubba]

What You Want? Death, or Wogga Wogga?

[Stoat]

  Sorry, been having post work/skivving beers. Death by wogga wogga joke a classic, will tell to grandchildren.

[grimer]

Or even Def by Wigga Wigga?

[Paz]

knowledge 'pack uzzis or ' beat their hos' so I don't call them 'wiggas'.

Well quite, but I think it's the shitter, yet more popular RnB/ Hip Hop tracks that talk about that , that get flagged by politicians as causes of violence.  All the good ones are piss takes.  the politicians (they're always the shitter idiots too) havent' actually listened to the fucking songs properly! You can no more accuse those guys of fostering racism than you can Samuel L Jackson of being a bad ass mofo who encourages violence, when he's a 65 year old hollywood resident with a respectable resume and a damn cool manner and voice (the greatest maybe since James Earl-Jones (the original Darth mother fucking Vader for you young ones, the only thing he was more of than he was evil was Cool, and of course all that changed, and while I'm at it let's just point out that it was a white man who introduced Darth Vader's Voice to the Dark side).  Awesomely spectacular voice overs are something that so far black people have been better at than whites, just like the 100m [AliG] Respek' [\AliG]).  Deep South Missippi or wherever, is like the antipode of Glasgow.  At school the most violent people I knew (apart form those who needed psychiatric help) were into Bob Marley!  Calling on your brothers to emancipate themselves.  Grounds for sequestration under our modern anti-terror legislation.

[Falling Down]

I wondered about the League of Gentleman thing too but it's "Death by Mau Mau". 

You're right.... 'Death by Mau Mau' - what a sketch!

[Stoat]

Thanks for the response Paz. We seem to share a common bond in our list of all time favourite black people. After searching frantically through my CD collection I have bizarrely found that I can find no black people listed as singers or musicians. I thank you for your prompt, as Sam Cook is probably my all time favourite singer and I will correct this glaring omission tomorrow. I bow down to your superior knowledge of unpopular rap/rnb and I'm sure they are nice lads.

The above is probably as irrelevant as your comments, but I thank you for the amusement.

I've asked and my brother says it's fine if you want to ask him to emancipate himself. I must warn you that he is 6'4", hard as fuck and has a problem with long words. Good luck.

[Houdini]

The problem as I see it is that I'd like to find a pic of 'Big Dick Black' (played the same actor who played the sergeant in Private Bengamin) who had a short role in the film Hardcore (as a pawnstar who could cum 9 times a night) starring George C Scott.

Dick injected a wee slice of humour to a film that would have been utterly dark - nay - black, without it.


But this isn't my PC so I'm not googling Big Dick Black and Hardcore - for love or money.

[Houdini]

OK, I went for it and here are two pix from my search of Hardcore by Paul Schrader

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin One:    Oddness.

And not faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar behind:   Badness.

[Houdini]

And a merry blikmass to you too

[andy_e]

I once had to walk through Burley and Hyde Park in Leeds with an Irishman who was MDMAd off his face shouting things out like "this looks like the kind of place where N*****s would live!"  Oh how I shat myself many times on the way home that night... A guy pulled up to us to offer his services and we had to watch said Irishman very carefully to make sure he didn't grab hold of a bag full of skunk or anything stupid like that... I crapped myself.

[lagerstarfish]

I once had to walk through Burley and Hyde Park in Leeds with an Irishman who was MDMAd off his face shouting things out like "this looks like the kind of place where N*****s would live!"  Oh how I shat myself many times on the way home that night... A guy pulled up to us to offer his services and we had to watch said Irishman very carefully to make sure he didn't grab hold of a bag full of skunk or anything stupid like that... I crapped myself.

This sounds exactly like any night out with Irish Alan.

[SA Chris]

He is one scary crazy bastard.

[lagerstarfish]

Despite his Father Christmas beard and belly, children just can't bring themselves to like Mr Terre'Blanche. Those eyes have not one bit of kindness or good will in them.
I wonder if a documentary crew could persuade him that being filmed doing Santa's rounds would improve the public perception of him?
The prospect of His Big White Self coming down the chimney seems a little less scary when you think about how funny it would be to see Eugene covered in soot in a B&W minstrels stylee 

[Falling Down]

I thought he was dead...

[SA Chris]

Sadly No.

PW Botha died last year, is that what you are thinking of?

[Houdini]

Satans' Wigga

[Houdini]

WIGGADEEBIGGADEEBONG!