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BID said:
Pointless technical slabs is my church.
I will report back humbly in about 3 months time having been slapped about.

Stalingrad would be a good place to start (in Cuvier, not Russia) https://bleau.info/cuvier/2005.html
 
mrjonathanr said:
BID said:
Pointless technical slabs is my church.
I will report back humbly in about 3 months time having been slapped about.

Stalingrad would be a good place to start (in Cuvier, not Russia) https://bleau.info/cuvier/2005.html

Amazing. Wells will hate it. Thanks boss man.
 
If you want your skin to last a week then walk away from anything sharp. Beware les gratons.

I've had a lot of fun with this list:
https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,26843.msg546205.html#msg546205
 
Select your destination depending on the conditions not a list of problems.
Look at the weather, wind direction then choose accordingly. If it's cold then somewhere that catches the sun if it's hot the somewhere with lots of trees exposed to a breeze.
 
Great advice from everyone so far. Font is an amazing place and you'll struggle not to have an amazing time!

I'd add that it can be great fun to just go exploring in the forest with a pad, shoes and chalk. Leave the guide at home (maybe take a pic of the map so you can get back to the car!) and just get on stuff that catches your eye.
 
i.munro said:
Select your destination depending on the conditions not a list of problems.
Look at the weather, wind direction then choose accordingly. If it's cold then somewhere that catches the sun if it's hot the somewhere with lots of trees exposed to a breeze.

Tattoo this onto your body somewhere. Do not disobey.
 
Take a pair of broken in shoes for most stuff, and a nearly new pair with crisp edges for tiny gratton footholds.

The Dame Joan (at said crag)restaurant is good for group meals in a climber friendly setting, if you can catch it open.

Definitely make a pilgrimage to the big Carrefour, no trip is complete without one.

Chocolate and almond croissants are the ultimate pastry, hands down.

Try out some lesser known crags/areas, almost all have amazing climbs, many in beautifully unspoiled woodland.

Consider doing a new problem. It's not hard to find unclimbed lines if you like exploring the darker mossier side of the hill.

Consider bring a short rope (20m) and harness for cleaning higher lines, if you're not too high minded about doing everything ground up. It can really open up what you're willing to try and save skin falling off high up stuff. There are many many classic highballs which rarely see ascents and benefit from a brush and a quick look.

Don't let your satnav drag you into Paris on the way down.
 
Skin's been mentioned a few times here, which surprised me.

My skin is usually terrible - it's so soft that I can barely get through a day of bouldering on grit, in any conditions, without the tips becoming super thin, and it takes a lot of attention to not ruin it for future days. Recovery is also nothing special, so I can't afford to wear it down much if I hope to climb the next day.
However, last time I was in font, I climbed for 9/10 days straight, sometimes morning and evenings, and that was in August/September, so very sweaty. By the end of it, my skin was a bit worse for wear, but it only started to change in the last day or so. I don't climb any big grades, but I'm pretty over-ambitious so spend a lot of time falling off stuff, which is where lots of wear comes from. This led me to believe that the rock in font is extremely forgiving on the tips - i'm pretty sure there's an Ondra quote about coming back from font with better skin than when he arrived!?

Does this hold any truth for other people? Does the skin advice refer specifically to avoiding spending too long on sharp ratty crimps - because if it refers to slopers/most holds, I'm struggling to understand it myself :-\
 
Johnny Brown said:
BID said:
Pointless technical slabs is my church.

I can recommend Calamity Jane and L'Artificier (direct).

JB, I knew, before I looked them up that they were going to be mid to high 7s nightmares :D
They can go on the long term ticklist. With a tail wind and 5 sessions my max is about 7B.

Saying that, walk on by is on the list so I have to step it up sooner or later.
 
edshakey said:
Skin's been mentioned a few times here, which surprised me.

Yeah I'm with you tbh, Font is basically as kind to the skin as rock climbing gets! Perhaps the main issue is you often just climb more days in a row there (because you can).

BID said:
Pointless technical slabs is my church.

This is a wonderfully confident statement, let us know how you get on! :lol:
 
Will Hunt said:
If you want your skin to last a week then walk away from anything sharp. Beware les gratons.

Even my skin can go a week in Font without splitting (it got so thin last time that it went a weird white colour - like bone!) if I stay on the slopes. First day of my first trip to Font I split on the gratons of La Super Prestat. Lesson learned.
 
Bradders said:
edshakey said:
Skin's been mentioned a few times here, which surprised me.

Yeah I'm with you tbh, Font is basically as kind to the skin as rock climbing gets! Perhaps the main issue is you often just climb more days in a row there (because you can).

Same with “Font elbow” innit? A consequence of doing a lot of bouldering in a short space of time rather than anything particular to the rock or style of climbing.
 
I'm with you on the skin, not the font elbows.

I think it's to do with a lot of sloper and compression. Maybe for those who've spent a fair time on grit or other sandstones it's not so bad, but if volcanic is your bread and butter Font is an elbow killer.
 
Skin strategy is critical. I'd have a couple of good days in a row about a week before the trip and wear it right down, then give it about 5 days to recover.

People have mentioned grattons - these are the big quartzy "pancakes" you see stuck on the rock. These are often brutally sharp, and there is so much else to do that you are best just walking on by.

I'd also say beware of projecting something that is skin intensive, failing on the same move again and again will strip it away in no time. Know when to walk away, there is so much to do there.

Another note on weather - if it's at all warm, consider early (first light) starts to get the cool of the day, then have a long siesta (I recommend a string hammock you can roll in a ball and stick in your pack) then have a late evening session.
 
Fultonius said:
I'm with you on the skin, not the font elbows.

I think it's to do with a lot of sloper and compression. Maybe for those who've spent a fair time on grit or other sandstones it's not so bad, but if volcanic is your bread and butter Font is an elbow killer.

I agree with this, I’ve had plenty of trips not to font where I’ve climbed a similar volume without any elbow issues. The nature of the climbing in font often means you’re doing a lot of compressing with your elbows in weird positions. Would assume ‘Font elbow’ is as likely to be a referred shoulder issue as directly an elbow tendon problem.
 
SA Chris said:
I'd also say beware of projecting something that is skin intensive, failing on the same move again and again will strip it away in no time. Know when to walk away, there is so much to do there.

This. I blew a whole trip's skin on day 1 a few years ago falling off the hard move on L'Ange at 95.2. Never did it, skin was shit for the remaining days :spank:
 
An alternative view. On your first visit.... all this advice will go out the window when you walk into your first area and observe the sea of boulders around you enticing you to climb them. You'll try to resist but you won't be able to. Be the child in a sweet shop, soak it all in and try everything. Patience and self preservation strategies can wait for future visits (you will go back). Get stuck in you will learn so much!
 
BrutusTheBear said:
An alternative view. On your first visit.... all this advice will go out the window when you walk into your first area and observe the sea of boulders around you enticing you to climb them. You'll try to resist but you won't be able to. Be the child in a sweet shop, soak it all in and try everything. Patience and self preservation strategies can wait for future visits (you will go back). Get stuck in you will learn so much!

Yes, this!

Makes me quite nostalgic for those early trips where I didn't have the first clue and just ran around like a child in a sweet shop.
 
Loving all this. Thanks guys.
I hope you're enjoying your nostalgia trip!
I've been climbing for 15 years and never bother to go.
I assume I've been very foolish!
 


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