[fatneck]

My bro had it a couple of weeks ago - not confirmed but sounded like it.

Our CEO and his wife tested positive last week - they're now fully fine and expect to both be back in work this week.

Anyone else?

[andy popp]

Not personally, but I know quite a few people who have, across Europe and North America. I know a smaller number who have lost family members (largely, but not exclusively, elderly or very elderly relatives)

As a journal editor I've had two authors approach me for extensions to deadlines for submitting revisions because they've had it.

[danm]

Possibly. Had a fever and self isolated for a week just as lockdown was announced. Most of Chamonix got it, off Fatboy probably, the hound. Know several friends in healthcare who tested positive or isolated due to symptoms. Lack of testing means it's hard to know really?

[Oldmanmatt]

My sister went down with most of the symptoms and given that she’s diabetic (type 2) and has a heart condition (something to do with Rheumatic fever as a kid), we feared the worst.
It was about ten days after our last family dinner with my parents which was just before this all got real. She works at the Royal Devon and Exeter and has been working from home since the symptoms began. Her consultant assumes she had it and I believe several in her department who have been allowed back, were tested positive.

The same week that she became ill , Polly and I developed chronic headaches that just wouldn’t go, along with malaise and disturbed sleep, but no fever or cough; that persisted for over a week. However, since, I’ve been wheezy at the slightest hint of exercise and had several bouts of a tickly cough and general lack of energy.
But, hey, paranoia rules these days.

I suppose, I almost wish I have had it.

My Sis has two teenagers and a husband, no symptoms per se, but headaches and mild colds and “feeling off”. Sis was proper poorly, bed ridden etc. We were cacking it.
No other family members have shown any symptoms and we were all together at that meal, plus we’re huggers and cheek kissers.

[cheque]

My sister had it, wasn’t tested but had all the symptoms and was ill for weeks. She said she felt like there was sand in her lungs and it got worse again after she first started getting better. Her three kids had no symptoms, her husband had mild symptoms that only started about a week and a half after hers did.

Having had a pneumothorax and associated complications  a couple of years ago (I had supplemental oxygen for two weeks but wasn’t on an actual ventilator) I was worried I was more at risk than most but nothing I’ve read suggests that’s the case thankfully.

[rich d]

Probably - obviously not been tested for it. Daughter cam down with dry cough and temperature and head ache, recovered then 7 days later I got the same, neither of us had any energy for a few days are were totally drained. It was markedly different to the coughs I've had over the last 30 odd years of my life since having asthma and just stayed in my throat which was very sore - with no phlegm at all. The wife then got it to a lesser extent 2 days after me, sore throat, headache and dry cough. Eldest daughter never showed any symptoms, then a family of friends had exactly the same too. Pretty flu like in it's symptoms - obviously we self isolated once youngest got the symptoms until we were clear, so have effectively been in lock down for a week longer than the rest of the population. If there's an anti bodies test as is looking like there may be from Abbot with a high reliability rate - that'd be useful to be able to get back to life. Suspect it'll never be available to most people and we will never know who has or hasn't had it. Other friends had similar symptoms in late Jan in the UK -although again if this is corona I don't suppose we will ever know.
 

[lagerstarfish]

Wife's uncle had it. Tested in hospital. Confirmed CV 19
Sent home in an ambulance.
Back to hospital in an ambulance when he got pneumonia.
Underlying health problems.
Recovering okay now.

[butterworthtom]

I haven't had it personally, but I am currently living in the middle east. The university I am working and living at has been very thorough in terms of testing people, contact tracing, quarantine.
The remarkable thing is, out of the 14 people that have been tested positive, about 10 of them have been asymptomatic.

[galpinos]

Wife* and I both tested negative after eldest daughter had symptoms. Eldest daughter tested on Saturday but 5 days after symptoms due to issues in getting a test for a child.

In one of my wife's hospitals (tertiary cancer centre), they have tested all in patients and all staff (who were in that day, my wife wasn't). There were 10% in patients and 9% in staff who were asymptomatic but tested positive.

*Doctor so testing required for us all.

[tomtom]

Those are scary totals

[Nigel]

There were 10% in patients and 9% in staff who were asymptomatic but tested positive.

This is shocking, and highlights why correct health worker PPE and procedures is so important for controlling transmission.

[galpinos]

Those are scary totals

They are, but probably higher than that found in the general population.

That particular hospital has done a really good job of dealing with infection, dedicated in/out doors, "one way" flow through the hospital, taped spacing shown on the floors of all corridors, defined wards with transition rooms in which to get PPE on/off. They are desperately trying to stay as Covid free as possible in order to start offering more of the treatments/surgery they used to offer.

The other hospital is a general hospital and that is a different kettle of fish......

[tomtom]

My parents need regular eye injections (AMD) and This has continued - with one way systems and distancing.

Still Nick - the data that on one day 10% of visitors and staff all were asymptomatic and positive (if I understand right) is - wow!

[Fultonius]

My parents need regular eye injections (AMD) and This has continued - with one way systems and distancing.

Still Nick - the data that on one day 10% of visitors and staff all were asymptomatic and positive (if I understand right) is - wow!

Is that accounting for false positives? Or was it false negatives for the test, and false positives for the antibody test that were the issue?

[Oldmanmatt]

This is good news, surely?

If I understand the post correctly, approximately 1:10 people have the virus (within the setting context) but are asymptomatic?
(You didn’t say what the total, symptomatic and asymptomatic numbers were).

I don’t see a huge argument that a tertiary cancer clinic, should be significantly different in infection incidence than the general population? Unless there is a Covid ward within the same building and communication of people and services between the two (ventilation, cleaning staff etc).

[galpinos]

This is good news, surely?

If I understand the post correctly, approximately 1:10 people have the virus (within the setting context) but are asymptomatic?
(You didn’t say what the total, symptomatic and asymptomatic numbers were).

I don’t see a huge argument that a tertiary cancer clinic, should be significantly different in infection incidence than the general population? Unless there is a Covid ward within the same building and communication of people and services between the two (ventilation, cleaning staff etc).

To be clearer, symptomatic patients had already been tested, symptomatic staff were off work so the 9/10% positives were all asymptomatic at the time of the test.

The setting is a tertiary cancer hospital, i.e. it has in patients. They have a Covid positive ward but this testing has shown that there are staff and patients on the non Covid wards that are Covid positive, so will be shedding virus to currently Covid negative patients.

[galpinos]

Is that accounting for false positives? Or was it false negatives for the test, and false positives for the antibody test that were the issue?

Testing for the virus is prone to false negatives according to my wife, so despite her testing negative it doesn’t give her confidence that she hasn’t got it. Also, do to testing being introduced so late, she doesn’t know if she has already had it. She is on the clinical trial for an antibody test though.

[Nigel]

This is good news, surely?

It doesn't sound like good news. Galpinos has covered the details of that particular setting, which probably carries over to other hospitals i.e. most are split into Covid / non-Covid areas. Procedures and protection levels will often differ in each - less stringent on non-Covid. If asymptomatic Covid patients / staff are on a non-Covid ward, there is arguably an increased risk of transmission. And the same will apply for settings such as care homes, which are reported to be issuing guidance that PPE is not required unless someone is symptomatic.

[abarro81]

I think OMM's point is that if 10% of people walking around at one moment were asymptomatic and infected, then it's likely that a huge swathe of the population has already been infected. Clearly this relies on

I don’t see a huge argument that a tertiary cancer clinic, should be significantly different in infection incidence than the general population?

being true. I have no informed view on whether it is or not.

[Nigel]

Fair point well raised. Think we were zoomed in to different levels. If that assumption is true then on a macro level yes it may well be good news. On the micro level of that particular ward (and extrapolating to all other similar non-Covid wards) it still seems an unwelcome finding.

[Oldmanmatt]

I think OMM's point is that if 10% of people walking around at one moment were asymptomatic and infected, then it's likely that a huge swathe of the population has already been infected. Clearly this relies on

I don’t see a huge argument that a tertiary cancer clinic, should be significantly different in infection incidence than the general population?

being true. I have no informed view on whether it is or not.

Careful mate.


If we start agreeing too often, it really might be an omen of the end times...

[lemony]

I had it about 6 weeks back - I posted a thread on the other side about it if you're interested.

Interestingly, even though I had the mildest of mild symptoms it's had a significant medium term effect. My lung capacity has noticeably reduced and under heavy exertion I'm having fairly nasty exercise induced asthma symptoms including coughing up big lumps of creamy yellow, fibrous goo for 48 hours after a reasonably intense run. My girlfriend still has less than 50% of her sense of smell back and her sense of taste is seriously reduced.

It's a bit weird to be pondering whether a mild cough might have (mild) consequences we live with for the long term to be honest.

[SA Chris]

Did you exercise induced asthma before? A mate has it, it's like running with a dog.

[Stu Littlefair]

I've not had it yet, but hearing similar things from friends who have. One family member had very mild symptoms initially but is still finding it hard to get up the stairs 3 weeks later. Another was ill and weak for a few weeks, but after a week of feeling better had a huge blood pressure spike, collapsed and went into hospital. Ok now thank god.

Grim.

[lemony]

I had it about 6 weeks back - I posted a thread on the other side about it if you're interested.

Though what you actually wrote on UKC is: "My girlfriend and I are untested but pretty confident that we have CV"

A quick parse of this thread shows only one actual confirmed case of COVID19

Well yes, but that person was my girlfriend and we were both symptomatic... we’ve now both been involved in the antibody testing trial. We had it.