[haydn jones]

What are peoples recomended choice for commercial setting. I've  used the 18v makita impact a lot and think its good. but have nothing to compare it to. thoughts anyone?

[SamT]

I think the Works have moved over from hilti to makita recently.  I'd say you cant go too wrong with makita these days.  The 18v sds are the popular cavers choice and they need to put up with a lot of abuse underground.

[Paul B]

I borrowed one of those Makita SDS  and it was brilliant. My Bosch blue 18v impact driver (I take it you mean impact driver not drill) was cheap but it shows and seems a lot less competent than the Makita/Hilti options I've used before.

[Probes]

Dewalt  over Makita  for me

[standard]

Dewalt now owned by black and decker. Forget the previous German quality.
Milwaukee are the bees.

[Paul B]

Dewalt now owned by black and decker. Forget the previous German quality.
Milwaukee are the bees.

Pricey though!

[Johnny Brown]

Dewalt now owned by black and decker. Forget the previous German quality

How old are you? Black and decker bought DeWalt in 1960. And they were based in the US.

[standard]

Dewalt now owned by black and decker. Forget the previous German quality

How old are you? Black and decker bought DeWalt in 1960. And they were based in the US.

Sorry, you are right. I meant they've gone to crap since manufacture was moved from USA to the far East in the early 00's.

[jfdm]

I use drill/driver for general diy have done two bathrooms recently.
They all do the same thing, but as with most things you get what you shell out.
Last year splashed out and bought a brushless dewalt drill and driver.
The charge lasts for ages on these bad boys.
Driver you can get small light batteries so I would have thought handy for setting.
I'd have a look at the brushless ones if you can stretch to it.

[haydn jones]

Hmm tempted by the bushless motor but there twice the price  :s

[Paul B]

Hmm tempted by the bushless motor but there twice the price  :s

Maybe a daft question given the OP but what / how long is it likely for?

[shurt]

Dewalt now owned by black and decker. Forget the previous German quality.
Milwaukee are the bees.

Milwaukee brushless drill and driver set down to £260 (from £400) on Toolstation at the moment. Seems like a good deal to me...

[SamT]

OP asked what folks use for 'setting' for which I assume they meant for route setting at walls . ie impact driver for driving posi screws home in ply.

[jfdm]

If your driver works maybe wait until it's knackered.
They all do the same thing.
Brushless you get longer run time.
Less friction on the driver results in more efficiency/less wear.
I can definitely vouch for that when I've used them.
They never seem to run down.
I would hunt around for deals, body only and possibly buy battery/charger separately?
http://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/dewalt-18v-dcf886-brushless-impact-driver-body-only?gclid=CNuwrqfJiNACFcJAGwodSo4HAw

[Paul B]

OP asked what folks use for 'setting' for which I assume they meant for route setting at walls . ie impact driver for driving posi screws home in ply.

There's a huge difference between doing that all day, every day as a career and not. Given Haydn's plea for a rope and harness not that long ago and a list of car issues ranging from nice to have to mandatory fixes, I was wondering if  something perfectly adequate (Erbauer) might be of interest? No spares or extras but they're cheap and get good reviews.

The Foundry still has a Panasonic 14.4v impact driver from ages ago and it's still working (although it did feel like it was trying to destroy itself at times).

[haydn jones]

Well i was hoping to get my foot in the door at a few walls setting and im probably gonna get rid of the van. that things a money pit. Got a setting job coming up but needed my own equipment hence why i was asking

[neilslim]

I got an Erbauer Impact Driver from screwfix that I can't fault for around £100, with 2 year guarantee... I've given it alot of abuse over the past 6 months, and it's done everything I've asked for. Worth a look for the price

[Paul B]

For reference the Erbauer is £79.99 / £109.99 with two 2.0ah batteries (standard / brushless).

[webbo]

My brother in law who works as a shop fitter uses Rhyobi, he reckons to get 2 years plus out of one using it 5 or 6 days a week.

[James Malloch]

Got a setting job coming up but needed my own equipment hence why i was asking

Can't comment on any drills other an my friends Makita is great - he's been building his own boat for the past 3 years using it for wood and steel and swears by it.

However, if it's just for the one initial job I wonder if you could borrow one from one of the Sheffield locals? Would give you an idea if you like it etc.

As an aside I read a statistic the others day that the average drill has about 11 minutes use in it's life. It was used to highlight the importance of a tool library in Edinburgh where everyone pools their equipment together and you pay a membership fee to borrow things from it.

Interesting concept.

[haydn jones]

However, if it's just for the one initial job I wonder if you could borrow one from one of the Sheffield locals? Would give you an idea if you like it etc.

Its not really an initial job. I've  actually done a fair amount of setting at other walls. I seem to enjoy it but always been limited to the fact i don't  have my own equipment.

Also follow up question.  Am i going mad but i cant find the 6/8mm hex bits for the bolys anywhere.

[Wood FT]

Just so you know, I would pay money for 'Haydn's Peak Lime Route Crux Replica based circuit'

[dave]

Am i going mad but i cant find the 6/8mm hex bits for the bolys anywhere.

Just hacksaw the end off a 6 or 8mm allen key.

[remus]

Just so you know, I would pay money for 'Haydn's Peak Lime Route Crux Replica based circuit'

How much? You could just glue a few pound coins to a vertical wall, that'd get you 70% of the way there I reckon.

[Duma]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wera-05073946001-Impaktor-Bits-Blister/dp/B0055R2QV4