[Dolly]

any good ?
should I buy it ?

[Pantontino]

Yes, a modern 'concept' album if you like. I rate it.

However, you might be better spending yer pennies on A Ghost is Born by Wilco.
This is easily the best album I have heard in the last 5 years. Melancholic Alt country ballads mixed with breathtaking Neil Young meets Husker Du bursts of violent but utterly soulful guitar noise. I haven't stopped playing it.

It was produced by Jim O'Rourke who is also a total hero (check out Insignificance).

[Jim]

it good but the first album is much better

[a dense loner]

i rate the first album, but can't even listen to the new one it's so crass :cry:
will check out that wilco one tho

[Jim]

I've just got it dense, will be listening in the car in a bit

[dobbin]

Thought it took a while to become acustomed, but on getting acquainted it is a good album, as for whether I will be listening to it again in 2 years I dunno.

Some pearlers - dry your eyes and the Blinded by the lights are ace 'telling it how it is' drug pop. Buy it, its well worth £13.

[erm, sam]

The 2nd album is totally awesome. It took me  a few go's like, at first it just sounded unlistenable. It is so spot on, its unbelivable.
I don't understand how it is crass? What are its key crasssness points?
Having said that, having listened to it everyday for several weeks I am having a little rest from it...

[fatboySlimfast]

I don't understand how it is crass?

hes from the north, what do you expect.... :wink:

[Stubbs]

I'm sorry, i really can't stand him, I've tried, I really have.

[dave]

i can't stand him, and i haven't tried, and i don't want to try.

[Stubbs]

I wanted to give him a chance cos loads of people whose taste i usually respect were into him, but he just sounds like a scally spoiling some occasionally good production. Only one thing for it  

[Bubba]

I hated it when I first heard it but it's really grown on me. Although it's not the sort of thing I can listen to often because it's quite intense, I think there's some great depictions of incidents and emotions that many of us can identify with.

[a dense loner]

n on that point, i think that too many people read too much into music. as liam gallagher said i just write lyrics that rhyme or go with the mood. anybody who tells you theres deep meanin behind what they've sung is a liar. altho morrisey said the opposite, now there is a fruitcake.

agree that he just sounds like a scally on the new streets album

[SA Chris]

I just cant get round the fact that on the chorus of "Dry your eyes" the bloke sounds like a folk singer; Roger Whittaker or Peter Sarstedt or something. Almost wait for the Irish fiddle music to kick in.

[Bubba]

i think that too many people read too much into music.

Depends whether your listening to something like Kylie or something like Pink Floyd really.

as liam gallagher said i just write lyrics that rhyme or go with the mood. anybody who tells you theres deep meanin behind what they've sung is a liar.

Which says it all about Oasis really. Overrated, uninspired, and just seem to be going through the motions to cash in on being rock stars.

[Bubba]

Peter Sarstedt

The Streets could do a remix of Where do you go to my lovely with Pete - can you imagine  :shock:

[dave]

Oasis - once were good, but now they're sheeeeeeeeyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttteeee. One-trick ponies. and liam is a twat who you just wanna slap round the face with a trolley jack.

I agree with dense - if i wanted deep meaning i'd be reading War And Peace. music should be about music. you see loads of bands go shit when they get up their own arses with all the deep meening etc. keep it real i say. Take a leaf from someone like my man Johann Sebastian Bach - he kept it about the music, and knocked out hit after hit of blinging instrumental flava - word. He knew how to handle an organ.

[Bubba]

Yeah, but you can say the same about books - Mills & Boon or Zen and the art of bike fixing? It's all good.

Anyway Dave, you've got a load of lyrical stuff on your hard drive....

[dave]

aye, but i don't think you could call any of at deep and meaningful! not unless you've got a philosophical take on dre or N-Trance.

[Bubba]

I'd say a lot of Dre is meaningful - it might not be art-school "deepness" but it's certainly got a message.

Can't really say the same about N-Trance though  

[dave]

but it's certainly got a message:

when in doubt, bust a cap.

[a dense loner]

Which says it all about Oasis really. Overrated, uninspired

have you lost your mind blubbs? agreed that they're not the band they was, but we were all stronger n fitter when we were younger etc.

Depends whether your listening to something like Kylie or something like Pink Floyd really

now i rate pink floyd as one of the best groups of all time but i don't think they write their music from the heart in one take. if you listened to the words without the music it would probably sound shocking. it's the music that gives it feel, they could possibly sing about guys with chainsaws runnin round the house. these aren't deep n meaningful words they just sound like it when pieced with the amazing music.
ps. i watched a pink floyd tribute band at uni n they were amazin

[Bubba]

Look - a message about how Gs can be softies too!

I spoke to your son, the other day, and told him Uncle Dre got him
The Lord must be accidentally pulling your file
Cause I'm still paging you, 911, straight in denial
Prayin you get it, but no man can choose the card he was dealt
You either quit, or you gon' play it like you get it
I done been through all emotions, from in shock, to keepin a poker face
To straight breakin down and showin all emotions
I'm anxious to believe in real G's don't cry
If that's the truth, then I'm realizin I ain't no gangsta
It's just not me, but you know I'ma always ride wit you
I miss you, sometimes I wish I just died wit you

[Bubba]

have you lost your mind blubbs? agreed that they're not the band they was, but we were all stronger n fitter when we were younger etc.

Nah, Oasis were always shite.

if you listened to the words without the music it would probably sound shocking. it's the music that gives it feel

I disagree entirely - some PF lyrics are awesome - surely you don't listen to their stuff and not take any notice of the lyrics?

[SA Chris]

have you lost your mind blubbs? agreed that they're not the band they was, but we were all stronger n fitter when we were younger etc.

Thats the point Dave made. They made some good stuff, then got sucked in by their own hype and produced some shit, which people bought on the strength of the good stuff. You can't just go on listening to a bands new stuff because they were good once. If you want more Oasis, buy the Masterplan, not their new stuff