Please someone just do some press ups, start worrying about subtleties later
Quote from: a dense loner on November 05, 2012, 09:26:36 amPlease someone just do some (Insert basic exercise), start worrying about subtleties laterThat sentence applies to almost all threads under the training and injuries tab!
Please someone just do some (Insert basic exercise), start worrying about subtleties later
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What survey of lagers are you referring to?
they all mysteriously developed elbow tendon injuries!
Quote from: tommytwotone on November 21, 2012, 06:52:52 amthey all mysteriously developed elbow tendon injuries!Yes, I had thought about that and will be careful. But I think balance is key here - would I be right in guessing that they weren't doing much by way of pullups or steep bouldering? I otoh am mainly interested in doing more pressups because if I don't, then my elbows get rather sore rather quickly when I boulder.
Nowadays I seem to be able to do about 30 push ups in a set, which doesn't seem to prevent elbow or shoulder injuries anyway.
If the purpose is to avoid injuries by exercising the non pulling muscles, then 3 or 4 sets of 15 a few times a week would be a better idea I'd have thought.
I would have said that pushups don't really proof your shoulders/elbows against injury either
Quote from: Rocksteady on November 21, 2012, 02:35:00 pmI would have said that pushups don't really proof your shoulders/elbows against injury eitherThis is true if you solely do standard pressups the whole time but each different hand position (wide, staggered, diamond, narrow) puts emphasis on a different area of the shoulder and if you train them all you can effectively strengthen a large portion of the shoulder muscles. Of course you're right though that for rotator cuff training internal and external dumbell/resistance band rotations can't be beaten.
So press ups for muscle strength - fine. Personally unconvinced they do anything to prevent shoulder injuries.
Yes, older and balder now.
Quote from: Rocksteady on November 22, 2012, 12:28:32 pmSo press ups for muscle strength - fine. Personally unconvinced they do anything to prevent shoulder injuries. But don't most use them as a means of preventing elbow injuries rather than shoulder?(At least thats the most common context I see it mentioned in).
Quote from: slackline on November 22, 2012, 12:33:21 pmQuote from: Rocksteady on November 22, 2012, 12:28:32 pmSo press ups for muscle strength - fine. Personally unconvinced they do anything to prevent shoulder injuries. But don't most use them as a means of preventing elbow injuries rather than shoulder?I thought so too.Anecdotaly pullups, lockoffs & campus training used to quickly give me sore elbows. Now, for every pullup-type exercise I do, I do 2 pushups. So I always follow 10 pullups by 20 pushups. I've since found I can handle a much greater volume which has really helped my develop my raw pulling power.
Quote from: Rocksteady on November 22, 2012, 12:28:32 pmSo press ups for muscle strength - fine. Personally unconvinced they do anything to prevent shoulder injuries. But don't most use them as a means of preventing elbow injuries rather than shoulder?
("Statistics" is the plural of "anecdote", right?)