Urban myth.
Holger are you still even allowed on this forum As far as I know it is only Rob Mirfin who thinks it might warrant 8a+. Hardly a consensus unless there are quite a few other people I don't know about who also think 8a+.
sounds fair enough 8b for everyone and 8a+ if your names Pete Chadwick
I prefer sustained rather than cruxy and therefore long rather than short but beggars can't be choosers and more than anything I guess I want something that I can be reasonably confident about with regard to conditions By the way I haven't climbed 8b before so this whole thing may be more optimistic than realistic but I'm keen for a bash Cheers!
Seagulls is 8b+, same as W Mussel. Youthanasia also is likely to get 8b+ as Pete gave Wild Youth 8b+ and there's no real difference. So that leaves, Stiff upper Lip, Melanchollie, The Brute, Temple of Gloom, The Hole Truth, The Mink Angel, Carinthean Groove and 3 at Dinbren.
Keith don't worry I am not really bothered about the grade - the constant rain in this supposedly dry country is much more of a worry at the moment - I just reckon you should actually do a climb before you downgrade....
Well Dunne Finish? Zoolook to a great rest, followed by V7 (??) ish through a bulge and a bit of 7b (ish??) on topHuecool? Dry much more often than you might think, not mega hard moves, excellent position (easier than Predator?)
Anyway Keith I thought you'd become a hardcore drytooler - the lip project at White Goods needs doing - your first M12?
On a related note I so want to do Supercool, ever since I saw a photo of this (think it was a Climb or Climber cover shot a few years ago)
Quote from: ksjs on December 08, 2011, 10:42:29 pm On a related note I so want to do Supercool, ever since I saw a photo of this (think it was a Climb or Climber cover shot a few years ago) Hands down the best sport route in the country. Except possibly Rainshadow, but that will require some more training for me at least...
There is probably a fair bit of knowledge on training for the Oak indoors available, I'm sure I heard of someone doing just that...........
Quote from: TobyD on December 09, 2011, 09:21:17 amQuote from: ksjs on December 08, 2011, 10:42:29 pm On a related note I so want to do Supercool, ever since I saw a photo of this (think it was a Climb or Climber cover shot a few years ago) Hands down the best sport route in the country. Except possibly Rainshadow, but that will require some more training for me at least...I'd agree. Huecool however, feels a little disjointed in comparison, certainly poorer rock quality.