Hi JohnI usually don’t get involved with forum discussions but you seem to have stirred up a lively debate with this one and a few people have pointed your post out to me.For my part, it’s important to remember that the BMC exists to protect the freedoms and promote the interests of climbers, hill walkers and mountaineers whatever their favoured facets of these activities - and amongst these I include boulderers, sport and trad climbers, DWS, competition climbers, wall users, ice-climbers, mountaineers, hillwalkers etc. One way the BMC can do this is by having the ear of those in power. Hence the reception for the BMC at No 10.Mick in a strong supporter of the BMC and is also heavily involved in the new web-based media. Hence his invite.Let the debate continue. It’s a healthy sign.Hope the climbing’s going well All the best, nick
give it a rest slope
Just read the BMCs press release and from what I can gather it is simply a tea party with the PM to celebrate 'mountaineering'. There won't be any debate, it will all be very pleasant and isn't mountaineering great etc...As soon as everyone's gone Gordon will be saying thank f*** that's over, what a bunch of smelly beardy Ron Hill wearing weirdos. Mick will get to shake his hand once in a 'lineup' and the conversation will be this:'How do you do' - 'How do you do'.Gordon will forget who everyone was and everything that has been said. The BMC will do a press release saying something like 'PM thinks mountaineering is great.'... 'it's so healthy, it's good for the local economy and great for kids etc..'All in all it will be a wonderful day for climbing and as a result Gordon will personally ensure that Vixen Tor will once again be open to the public.Let them go and have their moment. I suspect it's not as bigger deal as it's being made out to be. All the political work, representation and happens elsewhere, not at a tea party with the PM. It is what it is.....According to Sloper... it's all a waste of time anyway because the wrong lot are being approached... get yerself to the Tory party conference where all kinds of influence can be swayed.
maybe the BMC sees lobbying the Tories as flogging a dead horse. The core tory vote would love to be able close off its land to disgusting proles like ourselves (and have the right to shoot those who transgress)
For all the wit and liberal application of yawning symbols this merely indicates a lack of knowledge about lobbying, politics etc, sorry to be blunt but the BMC should be beyond politics and seek to act with the government to secure our interests regardless of the political stance / party of the government.
Let's be honest, if you ever want to *really* see something change, then you'd be much better making a shit load of cash in business while developing a media profile then demanding change at the same time as "requesting" your knighthood in the standard fashion (envelope full of fifties is the norm I believe)
Quote from: AndyR on August 19, 2008, 07:11:22 pmLet's be honest, if you ever want to *really* see something change, then you'd be much better making a shit load of cash in business while developing a media profile then demanding change at the same time as "requesting" your knighthood in the standard fashion (envelope full of fifties is the norm I believe)