Ice climbing bores me to shit but I won't attempt to belittle it (like I sort of have just done).
(5 wads in 2 posts is unheard of.)
Apart from Houdini,
cunt.
Sadly Dolph, I doubt there will be much clarity on exactly who did what when (this isn't to say I don't believe what Stevie said in his post) - talking to a very longtime Merseyside local recently it was clear much activity here (including this line) has always been shrouded in mystery, as befits an area dominated by local climbers forced to find playful ways of using limited local resources and with 'history' (and lines) being passed down through word of mouth rather than definitive descriptions.
Whilst we can not guarantee these people are who they say they are, we have to assume so.
Mike, not sure if your in the pool to stay or just visiting
Nah you're wrong about that Nik. But as a Llanber' local (and you is ain't) I'm privvy to a great deal more accurate info than you.
(Of course, this is not internet material.) You appear to have a great ability to see the worst in people, bit like me really...