[james]

2 faced bastards.

Ill second that

[Houdini]

2 faced bastards.

Ill second that

I'll 3rd it.



(People who go hell-for-leather in their brushing.  And people who remove flakes from certain lines in Cwm Pennant I was using as a hold!  Just because you can't/don't, why scar it?)

[Houdini]

2 faced bastards.

Ill second that

I'll 3rd it.



(People who go hell-for-leather in their brushing.  And people who remove flakes from certain lines in Cwm Pennant I was using as a hold!  Just because you can't/don't, why scar it?)

I'll 4th it.

[saltbeef]

This route is only 8a if you dont use the undercuts out left! otherwise 7c+
Tony - 23/Jun/03

I briefly tried the sequence without this blatantly online hold, it felt contrived in the extreme. Some cheesewhip fails to see a hold and trys to drag everyone down to his myopic level

I, and almost everyone I know who's done Subculture used the undercut out left and it felt 8a to me. The hold isn't used by any other route, so how can it be off-line????

 

hoisted by one's own petard... see raindog's thread big money.

[Bonjoy]

Oh well, better than being strangled by an angry Pochard.