[tc]

I see he has taken to borrowing problem names again "Eat Yerself Whole". This is the name of one of tc's problems at Langstrath. I suppose it was a coincidence :roll:

More likely Greg, they both took the name from the album, by Kingmaker or someone I think?

Nope. I was on a 'things that require time and effort to do' theme. Hence: "Eat Yourself Whole" and its companion problem "Bonsai Your Cat".

The 1970s had a profound effect on me  :wink: although the current medication is helping with the flashbacks (to Mc Callum)

[Fingers of a Martyr]

This makes interesting reading...

http://www.scottishclimbs.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2373&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

All though they might pull it.

well that was about as interesting as cat vomit. what a load of complete bollocks. it's really, really boring.

[Fiend]

http://www.bonsaikitten.com/

Anyway. Scottishclimbs.com does seem to a bit of a festering cesspit at the moment, hell it's even got Norrie trading insults which is a bit of a pity. Some people on there should have been banned straight away.

On the plus side, if you scroll down a bit there's an interesting topic about hard slabs.

[webbo]

I see he has taken to borrowing problem names again "Eat Yerself Whole". This is the name of one of tc's problems at Langstrath. I suppose it was a coincidence :roll:

More likely Greg, they both took the name from the album, by Kingmaker or someone I think?

Nope. I was on a 'things that require time and effort to do' theme. Hence: "Eat Yourself Whole" and its companion problem "Bonsai Your Cat".

The 1970s had a profound effect on me  :wink: although the current medication is helping with the flashbacks (to Mc Callum)

si's not quite in mcallums league.people actually belived he'd done the routes for a bit :wink: and that scandal made the sunday papers.

[tc]

si's not quite in mcallums league.people actually belived he'd done the routes for a bit :wink: and that scandal made the sunday papers.

If I remember correctly, the Welsh lads (Harris in particular) were all for blowing McCallum out of the water but were persuaded otherwise by the journalist, Peter Gillman, who eventually wrote a calming, measured piece for the Sunday Times. McCallum then disappeared from the climbing scene and never resurfaced. Most of his bogus routes have now been climbed, I think (Afreet Street was one of them). Which just leaves Maestri, Cesen and...all the other bullshitters out there (thankfully there are not many)

[Greg C]

http://www.scottishclimbs.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2381

 :D

[Fingers of a Martyr]

apparently all the new abusers/users on that forum are from ukb. :roll:

[Nigel]

If that's the case can "Bouldering Matt" please stand forward so that he can accept this years Boardman-Tasker Prize for Mountain Literature, that story is hilarious!  

[Huffy]

Poor Si O Connor, you guys are savages!

[Greg C]

From SOC Blog...

Warning: Problem child at work [i think only Cubby & Jo have ever seen this photo before, of my Lakes raiding years] I can only report back that the rock is a lot tougher than the locals. But then they knew that judging by the amount of gaps they left for me to fill in.

 :roll:

[Rico]

He's blond, he's quick
His name's a pr0no flick
Emmanuel, Emmanuel....

[Bonjoy]

Did he always scrall his initials on the rock  :shock:?  (SOC on the left)

[Greg C]

Did he always scrall his initials on the rock ? (SOC on the left)

Yes. He did this at Woodwell also.

[BenF]

Yes. He did this at Woodwell also.

For real?  Actually left a permanent mark?

[Scouse D]

At woodwell he's painted his initials on the rock and also put little paint dots next to holds on his eliminates....for real

[Huffy]

How is it that the issue of Si O'Connor always manages to rile the 'loose Boulderers' on this forum ?

This is not meant to be an abusive post, I just don't understand how or why you all put this much energy into something that ultimately doesn't really affect you.

With this said i can see how the SOC rumours might be annoying to climbers who have trained their asses off to climb at a grade most of us can only talk about on forums like this.

Huffy

***Edit: Jus read graffiti bit, that sucks if indeed it was him***

[cofe]

to climb at a grade most of us can only talk about on forums like this.

don't knock yerself fella. you're no punter!

[Bonjoy]

How is it that the issue of Si O'Connor always manages to rile the 'loose Boulderers' on this forum ?

This is not meant to be an abusive post, I just don't understand how or why you all put this much energy into something that ultimately doesn't really affect you.

 Not sure if I class as a 'loose boulderer'.
 For my part, far from being riled, I find the subject entertaining and amusing, in a cheap reality TV sort of way. Not big, not clever and probably bad for my karma score, I know, but 'car crash' fascinating all the same.
 And to be honest, if I only commented on posts which really affected me I wouldn't have a lot to say on here at all. And then what would I do all day sat here at my desk in the office? Work...heaven forbid.

[tc]

I just don't understand how or why you all put this much energy into something that ultimately doesn't really affect you.

While I have now revised my opinion slightly and no longer believe that these forums are necessarily the best place to resolve issues like this (even though the claims were made through this medium and people have a right to reply through the same channels), I wonder how you would feel if the world class problems and routes that have been claimed were a little closer to home (in your local area)?

If these things have indeed been climbed they certainly do affect us, since they would represent a quantum leap in standards in the UK. In fact, I can think of only two or three climbers in the world who might be capable of such an output of cutting-edge new problems and new routes/ repeats.
If they have not been climbed, or if the numbers attached to them turn out to be massively inflated, that is important, too, as this affects both local activists and visitors. In this case the descriptions should be revised or excluded from any present database or future guidebook to set the record straight.
What does not matter is the reason for the 'hoax', if that is what it is. Any discussion about that would be based on pure speculation. In other words, this issue is a matter of historical record only and should not degenerate into character assassination. Passion is fine, cruelty is not.

[Fiend]

And then what would I do all day sat here at my desk in the office?

Make more avatars, obviously  :

[AndyR]

How is it that the issue of Si O'Connor always manages to rile the 'loose Boulderers' on this forum ?

This is not meant to be an abusive post, I just don't understand how or why you all put this much energy into something that ultimately doesn't really affect you.

I have to say, I find it quite fascinating, and more power to the Shimidh O'Conchuirs of this world.

I find bouldering trivia absolutely tedious most of the time, and spend much time on here sifting through threads on little filler-in problems, and which-hold-to-use-on-which-problem-type-eliminate stuff very boring - that's not to say it's not important, but it's local stuff for local people info.

The presence of SOC in flying form is a fantastic thing altogether, and transcends the humdrum that invades much of our lives - long may this extraordinary piece of performance art/sociopathy continue.

[Huffy]

Haha  :D  I'd say you're a loose boulderer Bonjoy, reckon we could muse over sequences for problems quite happily in the same way those women discuss the latest lurid tabliod gossip (i meant loose in terms of that terrible mid-day chat show 'loose women') oh god, i really am a student again!

Cheers for the complement Cofe, you're aint no punter either, I've climbed with you and heard those manly power roars up close and personal....and i mean manly like Hasslehoff dude :

You all man

My last post wasn't serious, jus curious.

[Terrace Ghost]

ha ha i laugh in your face.

Huffalump is a total punter.  never done anything where it counts


on the campus board
 :evil:

[BenF]

At woodwell he's painted his initials on the rock and also put little paint dots next to holds on his eliminates....for real

Up until now I've had no opinion on the guy and I still refuse to debate what he may or may not have ever climbed (and I don't mean to sound too up my own arse now), but scratching intitials suggests to me a total lack of respect for the activity he has chosen to pursue (namely climbing natural rocks).

Si gets a whole load of stick on various sites and I have no idea how much is justified, but finding this out has p-eed me off and limits the chance of me ever having much respect for the guy.  But that's it from me, I don't know him and don't intend ever knowing him if that's his attitude to the rock, even if he can climb V14.

[Bonjoy]

Haha  :D  I'd say you're a loose boulderer Bonjoy, reckon we could muse over sequences for problems quite happily in the same way those women discuss the latest lurid tabliod gossip (i meant loose in terms of that terrible mid-day chat show 'loose women') oh god, i really am a student again!

 I remember now!