[Dave Flanagan]

Made these up ages ago. Could be good for passing the time between showers. Could also be considered sad. Could cause a lot of arguments.



Any suggested improvements? New catergories etc.

[dave]

nice work - not sure about the steep thing though - i mean can we really class karma as 10deg overhanging? its a slab at the top, and fucking steep at the bottom. maybe "shape" would be a better category.

[Fiend]

ROFLMAO, quality!!

And people accuse me of being a nerd, lol.

I like em - one thing though, I think you need to add sustainedness in there, it's the only major factor not covered that actually differentiates a few quite clearly (e.g. Dreamtime).

[account_inactive]

Look cool mate!

How about a famous climber version to include:

Star rating
Madness
Boldness (could be the same thing as above)
Strength
Injury
New routing
Good Looking?

I can see Dave Thomas scoring a high card here

[Dave Flanagan]

Maybe a stamina catergory is better than a steppness one?

[dave]

yeah maybe - if theres a photo on then its clear what shape/angle it is generally.

[Bonjoy]

Dreamtime 7/10 for power 1 up from Midnight Lightning, how does that work?

[Dave Flanagan]

Its just something I did quickly when I was bored and the numbers out of ten are relative to the grade.

[Bonjoy]

Fair do. Very good by the way. Any more in the set?

[Dave Flanagan]

Yeah I working on a full set of about 40 from the whole world. Its just a way of not doing real work.

[Bonjoy]

How about Wheel of Life for Oz (winning score on stamina).

[Dave Flanagan]

Weird I was just about to add that, does anyone know the name of the 8c slab in Japan?

[grimer]

How about a 'waddage' catagory. In as much as the thimble would have the highest waddage score. This sums up the sort of x factor that some problems have.

[Dave Flanagan]

Would danger not cover that?

[dave]

i suppose "waddage" might also translate to "pub bragging rights".

[Dave Flanagan]

- Font
   + Science Friction
   + Marie Rose
   + Karma
   + Joker
   + Le Toit de Cul de Chein
- Peak
   + Deliverance
   + Careless Torque
   + Crecent Arete
   + West Side Story
   + Green Traverse
- North Wales
   + King of the Drunks
   + Jerry's Roof
   + Boysen's Groove
   + Caseg Groove   
   + Pilgrimidge
- Ireland
   + The Rails
   + Split Arete
   + Original Route
   + Andy's Arete   
   + Tombstone Arete
- Bishop
   + Mandala
   + Specter
   + Sketchpad
   + Saigon   
   + Ironman Traverse

- Yosemite
   + Midnight Lightning
   + Bachar Cracker
   + Dominator
   + King Cobra   
   + Cocaine Corner
Others
   + Dreamtime
   + White Rastafian
   + Saturday Night Live
   + Stem Gem
   + The Thimble   
   + 45 Degree Wall
   + Wheel of Life
   + Hard Jap slab
   + Walk Away Sit Start
   + Slashface   

This is the list as it stands now. I left obliged to include a set of Irish problems. Pint for first person to tick them all?

[dave]

scratch joker, its manufactured shite.

[Dave Flanagan]

It is historically significant though.

[Fiend]

Yorkshire?

[Dave Flanagan]

I knew this would come up. The peak problems I choose are some of the most famous in the world. How about a few suggestions?

[Bonjoy]

Surely Green trav should be swapped out in favour of Brad Pit if significance quality and fame are the main criteria.

[Pantontino]

I know someone who produced a set of piss take top trump cards for faces in the N Wales climbing scene.

I haven't seen them yet, but apparently I scored very high for ranting - can't think what they mean?

[a dense loner]

how about a bullshit factor?

i would also say dreamtime n mandala are quite technical. not to be confused with the fu manchu ratings compared to dracula with the horror top trumps

[Jim]

you need to get out more dense

[ian h]

very nice indeed

when do we get the full set to print out?