[tomtom]

(a) The 'Deal' will be some variation of the Norway/Swiss (market and customs union membership - inc free movement) or the Turkish (Customs union only) agreement... either as a permanent of a 5 year 'transition' deal.

(b) Or no deal. Which is WTO tariffs and full old school customs shizzle.

I keep thinking I may be a harbinger of doom.. but it is a colossal fuck up. I bet in 1 year - probably in 2 years time we'll still have as much certainty as we have now about what will happen. In the meantime everything drains away...

The roadcrash voyeur part of me is amazed at what is happening with the Torys at the moment. I think they're hopelessly compromised at the moment. Park the DUP/NI/Irish border debacle for a moment and - you have the hardcore brexit dungeon masturbators (IDS, Grayling etc..) who will not settle for (a) - and you have the backbench remainer-wish-it-had-never-happened group for who (a) is acceptable (in some form) but (b) is crazy... All it takes is for either group to number 10-15 and abstain or vote against and the govt all falls apart.

[i.munro]

Sorry -glitch!

[i.munro]

But surely the Tories have ruled out a) ie single-market membership ... right at the beginning.
How can they possibly then present it as a successful negotiation?

I suspect they're still hoping to sort out a free-trade deal of some sort (still pretty much an economic disaster but better than nothing) & present that as a triumph.

Still baffled.

[Offwidth]

Growing Barnett formula problems:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/snp-warns-may-not-to-short-change-scotland-in-dup-agreement-1-4477441

http://www.iwa.wales/click/2017/06/additional-funding-wales-thanks-dup/

[SamT]

Totally un-electable??

[36chambers]

Owen Smith would have worked that stage better. /s

[Andy B]

I thought he was going to quote Percy Bishton for a second.

[A Jooser]

 

[Will Hunt]

Totally un-electable??

Ah, I can see the mistake you've made there. You see, it's not just the people who go to Glastonbury who get to vote.


Seriously though. Corbyn could win an election, but he's got a long road ahead of him to get there.

[mrjonathanr]

That's the problem with Glastonbury isn't it? Always takes forever to drive home.

[Lurker]

So an extra £1bn for N.I.  That 'magic money tree' must have popped up from somewhere to help out with that and the change to the pensions, winter fuel payments, etc...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/26/tories-and-the-dup-reach-deal-to-prop-up-minority-government

[dave]

£1bn is only three weeks worth of the money we'll be saving by leaving the EU though. No big deal.

[jfdm]

£1bn is only three weeks worth of the money we'll be saving by leaving the EU though. No big deal.

£1B might be the headline, but the DUP want to get their fingers into a few more pies.
The off the book figure being quoted is closer to £2B, democracy obviously has a price and it doesn't come cheep.
Don't forget the DUP "cash for ash scandal," a cool 500 million to sort out this.
It seems as though Treesa has managed to track down the mysterious money tree for her pet projects.
Grenfell Tower residents £5million, 8 DUP MP's with dodgy backgrounds/terrorist links £2B - £250 million per MP.
Think about what each MP throughout the UK could do with an additional £250 mill.
We are turning into a banana republic/laughing stock/basket case of the world.

[SamT]

Ah, I can see the mistake you've made there. You see, it's not just the people who go to Glastonbury who get to vote.

Yes Will, of course he's preaching to the converted there.. but I have to admit, I'd fallen into the trap 6 months ago of being influenced by the medias portrayal of him (shambolic, mumbling, awkward communicator) and this just goes to show how easily people, like me, can be misled.

It seems as though Treesa has managed to track down the mysterious money tree for her pet projects.

"There is a magic money tree.. you'll find it in the tax avoidance forest"

[Oldmanmatt]

She's banking on her property investments to cover the extra:

http://newsthump.com/2017/06/26/london-estate-agents-insist-market-is-booming-after-woman-pays-1bn-for-house-on-downing-street/

[jfdm]

Ah, I can see the mistake you've made there. You see, it's not just the people who go to Glastonbury who get to vote.

Yes Will, of course he's preaching to the converted there.. but I have to admit, I'd fallen into the trap 6 months ago of being influenced by the medias portrayal of him (shambolic, mumbling, awkward communicator) and this just goes to show how easily people, like me, can be misled.

It seems as though Treesa has managed to track down the mysterious money tree for her pet projects.

"There is a magic money tree.. you'll find it in the tax avoidance forest"

Trees"as" magic money trees"as" 3 weeks ago couldn't be found for the public sector workers. As if by magic it appears today.

The money tree explained, posted this a few weeks ago.

Same guy about the DUP money tree, couldn't say it any better myself.

[tomtom]

Enjoy.... strange when comedy is so close to reality...

[Oldmanmatt]

Why.

Or at least, a fairly clear indication of the wealth split between the under 35's and their elders.
To me, another indication of the "Boomers " distortion of the economy.
http://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/the-living-standards-audit-2017/


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Would have been better if debt management had a higher profile in this.

[tommytwotone]

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[Oldmanmatt]

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And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, sums up everything that happened since this election..,

[tomtom]

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And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, sums up everything that happened since this election..,

:D boom!