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#525 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 12:01:40 pm
Tories were up in Hallam too. I assume that's the Dore crowd mobilisin? I shouldn't be surprised really since it was a safe Tory seat prior to 1997.

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#526 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 12:08:51 pm
Tories and labour up everywhere. Greens, ukip and to an extent libdems down everywhere. Greens would have hoped to have done better in central but this ain't no normal election.

What do you have against Blomfield? Everything I've ever read or heard about him suggests he very genuine, caring and local politician.

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#527 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 12:28:40 pm
Bit fickle on my behalf really.  He's just an incumbent that I don't see much evidence of local action. I also fell victim to blaming Labour for what I generally see as Sheffield City Council continuous stream of cock ups. Decades of no Road resurfacing, a generally poor city center experience, closure of Don Valley, Amey Contract (actually nick clegg as mentioned previously), etc etc etc.
Looking at his voting record now, I cant really find too much fault.   

I vote green locally, we have a green councilor in sharrow and I see a lot of direct involvement.

I'm amazed at the Conservative Candidate (local address Twickenham) getting any votes. I'm not sure she's ever been to Sheffield.  Last election, we had one bit of literature through the door and it was clear she'd got off the train, had a photo taken outside the train station, then got straight back on the first train down south.

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#528 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 12:36:08 pm
The big losers last night were SNP. They just lost a huge amount of credibility and it has to stymie Indy ref 2...

Yeah, she really called that one wrong. If she was going to push for it, she chose the wrong time to do it, and should have waited until after the GE. Disenfranchised a lot of supporters.

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#529 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 12:37:45 pm

Bit fickle on my behalf really.  He's just an incumbent that I don't see much evidence of local action. I also fell victim to blaming Labour for what I generally see as Sheffield City Council continuous stream of cock ups. Decades of no Road resurfacing, a generally poor city center experience, closure of Don Valley, Amey Contract (actually nick clegg as mentioned previously), etc etc etc.
Looking at his voting record now, I cant really find too much fault.   

I vote green locally, we have a green councilor in sharrow and I see a lot of direct involvement.
I see where you are coming from. I used to live on Edmund road, where Blomfield's office is, and had decided he must be shit, can't rememeber why, prob because labour lost an election. So I subscribed to his mailing list to find out and realised he was doing everything I wanted and more I just didn't know.

Caveat. Always voted green until yesterday.

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#530 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:06:01 pm
On the other hand, Edmund Road is one of the few areas of Sheffield with barely any vegetation or green space, yet Blomfield allowed a beautiful avenue of cherry trees to be destroyed right on his doorstep.


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#531 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:06:19 pm
So...
I'm now frantically trying to get a handle on the DUP.
This has to be a joke, I knew the woman was power hungry, but FFS! Way to go, you fucking lunatic bitch:


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#532 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:26:39 pm
Tories were up in Hallam too. I assume that's the Dore crowd mobilisin? I shouldn't be surprised really since it was a safe Tory seat prior to 1997.
wouldn't be so sure about that, I've only seen two placards compared to numerous labour and lib dems. The aging population aren't such a majority anymore, reckon there's too many Drs, nurses, teachers, police, etc for too much support around here.

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#533 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:29:55 pm
Must be a lot of Tory voters living in those farms up on Long Line then! That's about the only place I see the blue signs.

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#534 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:39:11 pm
SNP won NE Fife from LDs by 2 votes. You would be gutted if you hadn't bothered voting

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#535 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:40:53 pm
SNP won NE Fife from LDs by 2 votes. You would be gutted if you hadn't bothered voting


Cost me £30 that result - I had a couple of quid on at 14/1.

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#536 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 01:50:31 pm
So...
I'm now frantically trying to get a handle on the DUP.

One positive is at least we will now have a nice new parliamentary marching band to look forward to. The Orange Order troupe will be putting in an appearance on Parliament's got Talent.

« Last Edit: June 09, 2017, 01:56:06 pm by jfdm »

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#537 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 03:20:37 pm
Just changed my  FB cover picture to :



The Tories piss me off.
The DUP?

I have never taken part in a street protest or riot. The very first hint of religiously motivated policy and I'll be throwing bricks.

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#538 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 04:25:21 pm
The big losers last night were SNP. They just lost a huge amount of credibility and it has to stymie Indy ref 2...


Sorry I'm not following. (I'm actually baffled by the voting pattern in Scotland) Didn't
a) they win the majority of seats in Scotland
b) Independence is surely an issue for the Scottish parliament to decide so Westminster vote not really relevant.

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#539 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 04:29:23 pm
Arlene Foster - "These are challenging times, and the U.K. and indeed our very way of life is under threat.. from extremists"

Too damn right arlene, to damn right...  :wall: :no: :slap:

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#540 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 04:38:03 pm
b) Independence is surely an issue for the Scottish parliament to decide so Westminster vote not really relevant.

You understand what protest voting is?

"Stop Indyref2" was the banner for most of the Scottish Tory Campaign.

If she doesn't have the backing of a majority of SMPs then she can't even petition for it. The view was the less SMPs there are the less chance of it happening.

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#541 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 04:47:38 pm
b) Independence is surely an issue for the Scottish parliament to decide so Westminster vote not really relevant.

You understand what protest voting is?

"Stop Indyref2" was the banner for most of the Scottish Tory Campaign.

If she doesn't have the backing of a majority of SMPs then she can't even petition for it. The view was the less SMPs there are the less chance of it happening.


Nah still not following. Even if the SNP hadn't actually won the majority of Westminster seats in Scotland last night (which they did) then it could be argued that it was because this election wasn't about independence. Pro-independence voters could be voting for Lab or the LDs in the hope of avoiding a hard Brexit or even Tory in the hope that a hard Brexit would make Indyref2 more likely.

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#542 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 04:56:58 pm
Well, they lost rather a lot of seats, so...

Anyway, the comedy gold is just steamrollering in today:


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#543 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 05:27:40 pm
I'm feeling a bit depressed now after the highs of last night. A realisation that Maybot has taken some blows but not gone down yet.

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#544 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 05:37:53 pm
I'm feeling a bit depressed now after the highs of last night. A realisation that Maybot has taken some blows but not gone down yet.
If Kuenssberg has deserted her, she fall soon.


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#545 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 06:13:28 pm
It'll only take a few Tory MPs with enough backbone to take exception to the DUP hookup and go against the party whip on the queen's speech vote to cock things up. However if such a thing as a Tory MP with a backbone exists remains to be seen.

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#546 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 06:25:49 pm
Yes - they're good at playing the game...

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#547 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 06:46:02 pm




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#548 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 06:47:50 pm
It'll only take a few Tory MPs with enough backbone to take exception to the DUP hookup and go against the party whip on the queen's speech vote to cock things up. However if such a thing as a Tory MP with a backbone exists remains to be seen.

A few may even cross the floor of the house perhaps?

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#549 Re: UK election 2017
June 09, 2017, 07:01:11 pm
I shared this last year when May won the leadership battle as it gives a good insight into her and her two loyal advisors.  Worth reading again in the light of recent weeks.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n21/william-davies/home-office-rules

 

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