Any advice appreciated please peeps.I come up to a t junction, (me joining the road).There is a guy waiting to turn out in front of me, no indicator, but on the middle of the road - i.e. it appeared pretty clear he was going right.He is so far in the middle of the road, it was easy and not a hard decision for me to pull up alongside on the left of him in order to turn left. I must of been there alongside him for a minute waiting for traffic. Suddenly he turns left into my driver side front fender and has fucked his and mine.He obviously thinks its my fault, I'm not sure - part of me wants to hold my hand up as he was there first, but another bit of me thinks:He was so in the middle of the fucking road (i could get my estate up on the left of him no problem) any normal person would assume he was going right. Also shouldn't he still of looked left and seen me there in my big blue family estate.To complicate things a samaritan came over (obviously had looked after the bang) to say she has seen me 'squeeze up the inside and ram him, although I had been alongside about a minute.Whats the consensus:Have I assumed too much and should hold my hand up?Or is he a complete dick, who shouldn't of been in the middle of the road, should of looked and should of indicated.Thanks
What vehicle were they in? In my van I'm often not quite where I'd be in a car for turning (closer to middle of road for turning L in the van). I presume the bigger the vehicle the bigger the effect. Anyway, I suspect it's your fault legally irrespective of the moral blame.
How can a stationary car be at fault?
Quote from: abarro81 on July 23, 2012, 05:17:50 pmWhat vehicle were they in? In my van I'm often not quite where I'd be in a car for turning (closer to middle of road for turning L in the van). I presume the bigger the vehicle the bigger the effect. Anyway, I suspect it's your fault legally irrespective of the moral blame.I reversed over a brand new Harley Davidson in my van, he'd come so close to my rear bumper in the middle of a reversing manoeuvre that I couldn't see him. Due to the noisy twin carb engine I couldn't hear him either as I flattened his new forks Basically, the insurance company will decide and whatever they say you're going to have a hard time arguing with them about the alternative. If the damage is on the rear of his car and the front of yours, I'd suspect he's going to win this one.
It's totally the other driver's fault. You were stationary and he rammed you. He obviously hadn't looked to check if the space where he was turning into was still clear. What if a cyclist had come up the inside and he'd done the same thing, they might be dead now. The problem might be the witnesses version of events. Have you made the insurance claim yet? I know of somebody in the same boat who just got a mate to act as another "witness" to back up his side of the story but this of course is illegal.
However... If you were to pull out in front of someone on a road without enough room/time, then stop very quickly, and then they hit you, it would presumably be your fault irrespective of whether you're stationary or not since you pulled into their path and right of way without enough time for them to stop.
Is the car clinic in Dronny? If so, and you are this side of the city, have a google for a place at Callywhite lane industrial estate.I also recall John Bee on Abbeydale Road near Carter Knowle road being good, I was always taking pranged vans there when i worked for an access company.
Quote from: underground on July 23, 2012, 09:22:22 pmIs the car clinic in Dronny? If so, and you are this side of the city, have a google for a place at Callywhite lane industrial estate.I also recall John Bee on Abbeydale Road near Carter Knowle road being good, I was always taking pranged vans there when i worked for an access company.I've also heard they are good - they are however, also expensive: if you're being expected to pay then might be worth looking elsewhere - if it's an insurance job then worth following up.
Quote from: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 24, 2012, 08:28:03 amQuote from: underground on July 23, 2012, 09:22:22 pmIs the car clinic in Dronny? If so, and you are this side of the city, have a google for a place at Callywhite lane industrial estate.I also recall John Bee on Abbeydale Road near Carter Knowle road being good, I was always taking pranged vans there when i worked for an access company.sorry. Only read the bottom bit.John Bee [relatively] expensive.But then, none of it is particularly cheap anyway.I've also heard they are good - they are however, also expensive: if you're being expected to pay then might be worth looking elsewhere - if it's an insurance job then worth following up.Which of the two suggestions are expensive, or are both?I've a mate who always has panel work done by John Bee and rates the quality of their work highly.
Quote from: underground on July 23, 2012, 09:22:22 pmIs the car clinic in Dronny? If so, and you are this side of the city, have a google for a place at Callywhite lane industrial estate.I also recall John Bee on Abbeydale Road near Carter Knowle road being good, I was always taking pranged vans there when i worked for an access company.sorry. Only read the bottom bit.John Bee [relatively] expensive.But then, none of it is particularly cheap anyway.I've also heard they are good - they are however, also expensive: if you're being expected to pay then might be worth looking elsewhere - if it's an insurance job then worth following up.
Quote from: abarro81 on July 23, 2012, 05:39:53 pmHowever... If you were to pull out in front of someone on a road without enough room/time, then stop very quickly, and then they hit you, it would presumably be your fault irrespective of whether you're stationary or not since you pulled into their path and right of way without enough time for them to stop. You'd think but it doesn't work like this. If you've hit the car from the rear insurance companies treat it as if you're at fault. Think about that next time a f*cktard pulls out at the last minute.
The paranoid part of me wonders if this is a stitichup with a convenient witness goving a bollocks report to back up what sounds like a grey area.However if it was they would usually do it with something more clean cut.
Always worth fighting.
i had a ding pulling out from a side street when someone thought it was ok to drive down the wrong side of the road so he didnt have to wait in standing traffic. this was at the brow of a hill, coming up to traffic lights and junctions, all places youre not allowed to overtake. when it came to the insurance he just lied and said he was passing a parked car, which was impossible. as the claim wasnt much my insurance refused to fight it, as would cost more, so i lost my ncb!!! its not always simple as you think. id find a witness asap who saw him pull in to you.