[bendavison]

I'm considering moving to St Andrews later in the year, but I have no idea what the indoor and outdoor climbing is like there/nearby. Anyone got any knowledge? Tbh, the main thing is that there's a bouldering wall.

[Fiend]

Nearby climbing options are utterly dire. Especially bouldering, sport and trad.

But in an hour or so you'd be getting to Ratho (which is kinda okay!) or Dunkeld or up to the Angus quarries which are.....not quite as good as Ratho, or the Arbroath sea-cliffs which are just plain weird. Two hours you'd get to the Aberdeen sea-cliffs which do have a lot of decent stuff, including some good harder, if very conditionsy, sport (and a thriving scene for such malarkey), or of course The County.

Go West and there's the rest of Scotland although it's wet and quite far away.

In short, be prepared to drive an hour for any sort of climbing, or two hours for a decent choice, and you'll be okay. The weather over that side is more benevolent too.

[Johnny Brown]

The surfing is supposed to be good.

[SA Chris]

You can get to AVW in Dundee in about half an hour.

They've apparently put a new cellar training area in since I was last there with Moon board etc.

http://www.averticalworld.co.uk/

If it ever dries you could develop fingers of steel and nab a coveted ascent of Dennis "proper"

http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=30552

Surfing is terrible. Much too sheltered, rarely works.

[Fiend]

AVW cellar is a cellar in location, not in hardcore Sheffield-era training ethos. It is a decent addition to the local training repetoire though.

[SA Chris]

It is what it is. And quite close.

As are Clova projects.

[Fultonius]

You can get to AVW in Dundee in about half an hour.

They've apparently put a new cellar training area in since I was last there with Moon board etc.

http://www.averticalworld.co.uk/

The cellar is a bit gash IMO - too short, so it's all a bit crabwise. St Andrews is not one of the best places to be based in Scotland for actual local climbing.