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Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2005, 10:14:33 am
So who has you reaching for the off button?

For me, I nominate two:

U2
Holy fuck, why does anyone like U2? I just don't get it - Bono can sing but his voice is horrible, and they churn out remarkably similar middle of the road "hit" after "hit". Over polished, unimaginative and completely boring.

50 Cent
Man he pisses me off - I now turn the radio off whenever I hear his dirgey voice start up. Ok, In Da Club was a good track, I'll give him that, but everything I've heard since is the same old cliched gangsta nonsense delivered with a vocal style that you can only get by being shot in the face. Shame the attackers couldn't do a proper job :lol:
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: tommytwotone on March 29, 2005, 10:32:01 am
Captain Beefheart

for "avant garde genuis" read four words - can't. write. a. tune.
same Zappa.

Abba

Oh my lordy, does this band's back catalogue serve any other purpose than to keep drunken, histrionic women dancing at mobile discos? I once made a new year's resolution to never dance to Abba, one that was surprisingly easy to keep.

Coldplay

Like any decent indie-ish guitar act nowadays, victims of Radio 1 / BBC trailer overplaying, resulting in everything they do grating on me before it's even been released. Also partly responsible for the rise of soundalike acts like Keane, Snow Patrol et al, all of whom I can live without.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Graeme on March 29, 2005, 10:39:51 am
I'd have to say:
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
I'm just so sick to death of their so called quirkiness jump around and act like dumb fuckers.
Just write some decent music for fucks sake.

Green Day
American Idiot. Great song.
Shame everything else on that's made me not want to buy the album.

Nirvana
Played to death on MTV2, kerrang! etc.
They were an ok band, he's dead move on, Dave Grohl did why can't you its not like they were actually that good a band

Then there's practically every other band under the sun.
I'll post more later.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on March 29, 2005, 11:04:37 am
Eric Clapton - I just don't get it. Why is this tedious dullard treated like some sort of god.

I would also say Robbie Williams, Cliff Richard and Elton John - if you rate any of these cnuts you shouldn't be allowed to breed.

As for Captain Beefheart - whilst I accept that much of his output makes for 'difficult' listening, that cannot be said of Clear Spot. This is simply one of the greatest albums ever recorded. If you don't like Clear Spot, you don't like music.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on March 29, 2005, 11:07:55 am
Scissor Sisters _ Sounds like the bastard son of an unholy union involving Robbie Williams, Elton John and the Bee Gees.

 The Darkness _ A bad joke thats gone on too long and wasn't funny in the first place. Just an excuse for gimps to enjoy terrible music under the prettence of irony.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on March 29, 2005, 11:09:31 am
Quote from: "Bubba"
So who has you reaching for the off button?

For me, I nominate two:

U2
Holy fuck, why does anyone like U2? I just don't get it


A rhetorical question eh... it just has to be U2, they are so far out on the overrated scale they set an artistic 'event-horizon' which is impossible to surpass without somehow bending the laws of physics.  I'm sure if you looked up 'overrated' in the Oxford English Dictionary it would have U2 listed as the perfect example of the phrase.

I can only put it down to some sort of consensual mass hallucination that occured sometime in the mid eighties when I was at home off school with the flu.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on March 29, 2005, 11:15:55 am
Also raising my ire....

Faithless - What the f*ck?  Isn't this sh*t just stadium rock for cheesy ravers?

Massive Attack - One OK track and somehow Blue Lines is one everyones top ten album lists.

I'll second Bonjoy's Scissor Sisters.. worse than listening to your Mum and Dads Bee Gees/Elton John/Billy Joel tapes sat in the back of a fume filled Cortina on the way to a cold summer holiday in the 70's..
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: fatboySlimfast on March 29, 2005, 11:28:20 am
Simply Red/ Mick Hucknall - now i know its easy to take the mick out mick, the charlie drake of cod white boy soul but for fucks sake.....the highlight for me has to be stuck in  dave peggs skoda circa 1987, pissing down on Apt campsite with the bastard hucknalls first album going round and round and round for three soddin days. Jeez, to top the non descript blandness of pimply red is the dirge of hucknalls solo stuff, read that as covers of alright songs done in that awful wail..........
no wonder there are whole websites dedicated to haiting this twat
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: AndyR on March 29, 2005, 11:33:06 am
Quote from: "Falling Down"
Quote from: "Bubba"
So who has you reaching for the off button?

For me, I nominate two:

U2
Holy fuck, why does anyone like U2? I just don't get it


A rhetorical question eh... it just has to be U2, they are so far out on the overrated scale they set an artistic 'event-horizon' which is impossible to surpass without somehow bending the laws of physics.  I'm sure if you looked up 'overrated' in the Oxford English Dictionary it would have U2 listed as the perfect example of the phrase.

I can only put it down to some sort of consensual mass hallucination that occured sometime in the mid eighties when I was at home off school with the flu.


I'm with you there - you should try living in ireland - every new release of the same-bland-song-given-a-different-title brings forth another deluge of tosh on the radio about it being 'their best single yet'.  Spare me.

Also, there should be a special booth in record shops where you pay for robbie williams cds - as soon as you hand over the money, a trapdoor should open, and you should be dumped into a vat of liposuction waste - this should help to deter people from this heinous activity.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2005, 11:59:08 am
I'm so glad there's some other U2 haters out there - I thought I was the only one :)

I heard a Coldplay live thing on the radio the other day and it was truly terrible.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: the_dom on March 29, 2005, 12:02:49 pm
Quote from: "Bubba"
I'm so glad there's some other U2 haters out there - I thought I was the only one :)


I agree whole-heartedly, in terms of how shite and overrated U2 are...

We are legion.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: webbo on March 29, 2005, 12:13:39 pm
The rolling fukin stones.
George Micheal.
Micheal Jackson.
Plus all this stuff they call R&B these days.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2005, 12:20:59 pm
Add Phil Collins to the list.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: fatboySlimfast on March 29, 2005, 12:59:26 pm
id like to add anything hyped as ....'the future of rock and roll'
which usually means some post modern pastiche of a number of old acts with band memebers wearing vintage styling(80's at the moment) same with the hiarcuts(witness the current feather cut revival) and one good song and a whole album of shit ones.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on March 29, 2005, 01:19:06 pm
Paul Weller - Everyone else seems to love him, I don't get it. Boring beyond measure. And best mates with chav-scum Oasis.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2005, 01:29:11 pm
Quote from: "Bonjoy"
Oasis.


And that reminds me - Oasis...wtf? They are truly overrated.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on March 29, 2005, 01:40:26 pm
Oasis - tossers but brother that isn't liam is occasionally funny
U2 - cunts
Robbie Williams - absolute twat!
Coldplay - chris martin ffs, don't make me laugh, hahaha
The Darkness - never understood why they are rated
50 Cent - candyshop is a travesty of a song
Green Day - morons
Avril Lavigne - words can't describe how much i h8t this 2 ft singing goblin
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: nik at work on March 29, 2005, 02:01:35 pm
The Sissor Sisters are indescribably bad. Their music is awful and that masacre that they performed on Pink Floyd is unforgivable.

Eminem. Sorry but I can only listen to so many tracks containing the lines 'here's slim shady' and 'shady's back' (or words to that effect) before I start thinking that someone is perhaps not quite as creative as people think. Although he is very good at talking fast, a great skill I'm sure...

AC/DC. People are fucking demented about this band, I am not.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on March 29, 2005, 03:38:31 pm
Problem with the likes of Weller and the Stones is that once upon a time they were amazing (I was a massive Jam fan in my youth). I just wish they'd stopped making music before they lost it.

Agree about Faithless - they're so deep maaaan! Yeah, right. Shit, formulaic dance dirge for people who normally go to see Texas or Mariah Carey/Celine Dion in concert (or I suppose the modern equivalent, that queen of mediocrity: Dido). I was asked recently if I wanted to go to a Faithless gig. I nearly choked on my pint, ffs do I look like a moron? I think my wife is going - grounds for a divorce as far as I'm concerned.

One of my other pet hates is Offspring - a monumentally shit band who have been a source of irritation to me for years. Their international success is a total mystery. I do not understand what the attraction is/was. I have actually seen them live when they did a gig with the superb Quicksand. The crowd ignored Quicksand, but went mental when Offspring came on. An astonishing display of collective stupidity.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Graeme on March 29, 2005, 04:09:40 pm
Yes but are Quicksand bouncy and fun?
No
Do they have lyrics that are deep and have something of a meaning?
More than likely if they're anything like Rival Schools.
Now take these two factors add them to the fact that we live in a world populated almost entirley by mindless fuckwits who can't comprehend deep music and there you go.

I would like to add Queens of The Stone Age to the list.
What a pile of toss, and even worse now after the sacking of Nick Oliveri.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 29, 2005, 04:17:48 pm
I agree with most of these postings, but I'd argue that being overplayed to death by Radio1 or otherwise is out of a bands control. Snow Patrol are a  case in point, personally I think Final Straw is an amazing album from a band who have been improving with every album and have slogged it out for years to make it, then a few thousand plays of the sublime 'Run' on R1 and everyones sick of them. 'Supporting new music' MY ARSE. Playing back to back MMM, Fido-Sent and Gwen 'Not-rich guv, honest' Stephani. or overplaying to death the odd decent song they latch onto. Hmm.

Personal hatred: Agree with Pantontino about Dido, one in a series of albums owned by people who don't actually listen to music. Your honour, I present the usual suspects:
- Dido
- Norah Jones
- David Gray
- Joss Stone
- Coldplay
- Jamie Cullum

Oh yeah, and I like Green Day as well, even if they have become main stream recently. :?
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on March 29, 2005, 04:36:33 pm
is anyone else tired of joss stone's jaw?

jamie cullin can play the piano standing up while wearing jeans, a blazer and a t-shirt. its funny how you never see him in the same room as harry houfuckingdini.

i hate u2.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on March 29, 2005, 04:41:03 pm
and while i'm at it. embrace were shit years ago. then 8 years later or whatever some class A penis has given them another record deal and they're churning out more shit.

why can't everyone make good tunes like autechre?
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: nik at work on March 29, 2005, 05:25:44 pm
Oh how did I forget dido - a one friend says "music to die to"...

And just to broaden the scope ever so slightly, I do find Handel to be a tedious waste of ear use. And all jazz 'greats' (with the exception of the one guy who is ace who I can't remember the name of) should in all probability have not really bothered trying to make my life a misery. I just don't listen to you,  you're wasting your time.

And anybody who warbles instead of actually singing. I'm not impressed, now fuck off...
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2005, 05:32:07 pm
Oh god, David Gray - bores me to tears but for some reason half the country seem to have an album of his. And as for Dido - she can fuck off for her insipid dullness. The track Eminem sampled is ok I guess but the rest is tosh.

Norah Jones is ok if you're in the mood but a bit boring as well. Joss Stone? I was a big fan when I first heard her and I think she's got a lot of potential but i just don't really like any of her songs that much.

I was going to write off anyone who's been to stage school but I quite like Amy Winehouse.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on March 29, 2005, 05:38:01 pm
Quote from: "Bubba"
Norah Jones is ok...


Are you f*cking kidding?? Snorah Jones more like it... jesus Bubbs you ought to stand in front of a mirror and say 'I like Norah Jones' and see how humiliated you look.. you ought to be ashamed of yourself!  :D

As Lee once said to Lance (Harry Enfield) 'Have you been talking to a bird again'?
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 29, 2005, 05:44:00 pm
:lol:

I must admit I've only listened to her once about 5 years ago so I might be mistaken. I promise to pay the penance of listening to a fully Katie Melua album ;)
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on March 29, 2005, 05:46:11 pm
Quote from: "Bubba"
:lol:

I must admit I've only listened to her once about 5 years ago so I might be mistaken. I promise to pay the penance of listening to a fully Katie Melua album ;)


And watch Love Actually on DVD afterwards...
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on March 29, 2005, 06:17:22 pm
I'm probably going to take a slagging for this but there seems to be a stack of "Great New Rock Bands" that are totally interchangeable at the moment. Spot the difference;

Razorlight
Libertines
Kasabian
Killers
Kaiser Chiefs

'cos I cant.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: BoulderHog on March 29, 2005, 09:34:40 pm
I agree with that, the Killers are ok though, but why should they be successful when Shed 7 never were? Since they are virtually the same thing. Razorlight are disposable crap, one listen wonders, and the lead singer is a twat "I had a heroin addiction, I was so middle class . . . " Blah blah pretentious trouble maker wannabe bullshiter.

I'm coming to the defence of Faithless, it was the only tape I had when I went travelling a few years back -  I went two weeks without speaking to another soul at one point, it was either silence or faithless, so I grew to like them, possibly I made the wrong decision.

Coldplay were good once, before they disappeared up there own (or Paltrow's) arse (same thing happened to Oasis after definately maybe, and happened to Razorlight before they even started).

Snow patrol should be shot for being so unbearably dull along with Elvis Costello and Eric Clapton.

Ian Brown is pretty crap, but it doesn't stop me buying everything he makes, I'm still a believer despite all the evidence against.

Robbie Williams is too crap to mention, so I won't, instead I think Paul Weller should get the award for being the biggest waste of space on the planet - spewing out the same age old hippy shit again and again, resembling a prize Christmas Turkey (christmas 1991), with no stuffing. Any band that have wedged themselves up his crack should also be heartily punished - ocean colour scene for example, and no, the day we caught the train was amazingly crap a single, if you like it, just go listen to it again and notice it's actually just bland formulaic bollocks (don't forget to wash your Ben Sherman shirt while you're at it) - The ultimate 'lads' band, and the lead singer was gay, classic stuff, strangely doesn't sit well when your core fan base is the biggest group of lager drinking homophobes in England.

I'm trying to think of a band that are actually any good, all I can come up with are from 1980's/90's. No wonder people download music for free, it's all f*cking shite.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on March 30, 2005, 08:39:03 am
Some of the people listed go beyond being overrated and enter the "crimes against music" category. 6 worst offenders;

Celine Dion
Mariah Carey
Phil Collins
Robbie Williams
Elton John
Mick Hucknall
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on March 30, 2005, 09:25:41 am
Quote from: "nik at work"
And all jazz 'greats' (with the exception of the one guy who is ace who I can't remember the name of)


herbie hancock. very good.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 30, 2005, 10:58:50 am
Errm, Miles Davis is kinda quite good too :lol:
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: AndyR on March 30, 2005, 12:14:41 pm
Quote from: "nik at work"
....And all jazz 'greats' ....


Come now, John Coltrane is a god.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on March 30, 2005, 12:27:22 pm
It's all getting a bit Zane Lowe in here.... I think everyone's forgetting a fundamental reason why the likes Dido, that cunt Williams, Faithless and the millions of other utterly wank 'artists' are so popular.

Because the vast majority of the general fucking public are mindless wankers who can't think for themselves. They don't really like music, and wouldn't know decent stuff if it bit them on the arse.

Lighthouse Family, M People, U2, Phil Collins, all totally predictable, unchallenging, droning, safe. None of it gets in the way of thinking about football and shopping for a widescreen.

Anyway, talking of U2- I had a MRI scan recently and it's very noisy inside the machine, so patient has to wear ear defenders..... cos I'm all posh and that I went private, so MY MRI machine had ear defenders that played music.... yep, the entire new U2 album, overlaid with some mad banging techno being created by the machinery. And I couldn't move an inch. Or see anything other than the white plastic of the tube I was in.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on March 30, 2005, 12:32:28 pm
Sounds like fun :shock:
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 30, 2005, 12:40:58 pm
I'd sue their ass for that sort of abuse :shock:
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: tommytwotone on March 30, 2005, 12:50:50 pm
Quote from: "underground"
It's all getting a bit Zane Lowe in here.... I think everyone's forgetting a fundamental reason why the likes Dido, that cnut Williams, Faithless and the millions of other utterly wank 'artists' are so popular.

Because the vast majority of the general fucking public are mindless wankers who can't think for themselves. They don't really like music, and wouldn't know decent stuff if it bit them on the arse.

Lighthouse Family, M People, U2, Phil Collins, all totally predictable, unchallenging, droning, safe. None of it gets in the way of thinking about football and shopping for a widescreen.



aye, but what about the flipside - the vast amount of ear-bleedingly unlistenable, 'experimental' atonal cack that frequently makes it into the 'muso' fraternity's top 100 lists?

I'm thinking Spiritualized, Blur's post-"Song 2" period and come to think of it Pink Floyd (am I the only one who finds Dark Side total shite?), is that you slouching at the back?

Case in point (and my particular soap-box): Radiohead.

The Bends? Yes please, stick it on!

OK Computer (or anything since that)? Hmmm, think I'd rather stick a fork in my ear.

n.b. IMHO
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Moo on March 30, 2005, 07:40:51 pm
WO WO WO stop right there, ok I have to say everything I have read until the last post was utterly agreable and more like music to my ears than anything in the charts at the moment, but pink flyod and radiohead are both awesome bands in my humble opinion.
I want bono to F**K OFF and DIE in a small hole, especialy for trivialising the cause for aid with his sell to the masses attitude, WANK@R.
The other thing i didn't agree with was the ac/dc critic, sorry man but they have been doing some of the best rock music consistently for not long enough.
50 cent I'll take you to the candy shop, I'll have you know sir that I will be going no such place with you or "snoop doggy dog" or farrel or anyone else whom owns a medalion that spins around in the middle, and feels the need to wear sweat bands when undertaking no physical activity, that stuff  all sounds the same, base beat with electronic noise over the top SHI"
I hold the deepest and most fervent contempt for the scissor sisters, they are bad enough without covering Comfortably numb the bastards.
Limp bizkit linkin park Pod (not the climbing brand) and all other so called "nu metal acts" deserve to be flayed.
Oh yeah keane aswell while we're on, they wrote one song liked the sound of it and decided to make everything else sound just like it the lack of originiality in their song writing makes me want to hurt small animals.
I could go on all day but I'll stop there
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: dave on March 30, 2005, 11:29:37 pm
just spent 20 minutes typing about all the music i hate, then accidentally deleted it all. Good job really as i was only half way through the list. basically i hate all whiney spoilt middle-class suicide heroin guitar shit (coldplay, travis, radiohead, etc), I hate robbie, the darkness, 50cent, eminem, Mcfly, outkast, any many more....
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 31, 2005, 07:39:45 am
Awww, I like Outkast, they're funny....and Eminem has his moments....I just wish he'd stop churning out the same old "my mummy hated me" stuff over and over again.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: nik at work on March 31, 2005, 08:04:10 am
Re Jazz: Miles Davis was the bod I was thinking of, although to be fair I'm not a fan of the genre at all so I will concede that the others named may have had their moments, just out of ear-shot.

Have to agree with the "Radiohead up to the bends were excellent, OK computer was the start of terminal decline though" sentiment.

Pink Floyd are great, anyone who says otherwise doesn't deserve ears.

AC/DC, like I said, lots of people love this lot, I don't. I consider this to be one of my big agree to differ moments with society at large. Tiddly pom.

Has Chris De Burgh been mentioned yet, my mum loves him. Surely this is evidence that I was adopted if nothing else.

Did I mention that the sissor sisters are criminally bad?
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on March 31, 2005, 09:39:59 am
Quote from: "underground"
Anyway, talking of U2- I had a MRI scan recently


Perhaps the peeps in charge all hate U2 as well, I mean who's going to listen to their U2 album again if it reminds them of their MRI scan??
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: AndyR on March 31, 2005, 11:01:25 am
Quote from: "dave"
... basically i hate all whiney spoilt middle-class suicide heroin guitar shit (..... radiohead, etc)..


Think we'll have to agree to differ on this - nothing like radiohead to polarise the listeners (personally, I think they are evidence of at least some intelligence in modern music...).

Can we all get back to singing from the same hymn sheet? Can we restart with Cliff godbotherer Richard and Tom Jones? Hate, hate, hate....
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on March 31, 2005, 11:56:37 am
I'm down with that: fuck Cliff Richard...and Bryan Adams as well.

(I've never got the fuss over AC/DC either - that band is just a tedious playground joke, moronic cartoon metal for rebellious Status Quo fans....'for those about to rock'...oh, just fuck off. :roll:)
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 31, 2005, 12:16:39 pm
Aaagh! Bryan Adams and Status Quo - good nominations.

Also going into my overrated pot are REM, Queen (sorry Dave), Elvis and Frank Sinatra...
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on March 31, 2005, 01:21:21 pm
With regard to Elvis: I would draw the court's attention to Suspicious Minds - truly a redemption for past sins, even if we consider all those terrible films in the 60s.

I used to think REM were alright, but I was driving along listening to Automatic for the People the other day and I suddenly realised what a load of twee, lightweight bollocks it all was. I turned it off and put on Sweet Thing by Van Morrison - felt a lot better then.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 31, 2005, 01:27:15 pm
Oh aye, Elvis certainly did some good stuff, I just don't get the whole worship thing he seems to get....and wtf is up with all those impersonators.

Oooh, here's another one....Madonna.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on March 31, 2005, 03:14:08 pm
Quote from: "Bubba"
Oooh, here's another one....Madonna.


I had a crush on her during her 'Like a Prayer' days - all those curly brown locks and loose bra straps brrrr.... she's a right hound now though.

Here's another one.. Madness, or where they just plain old sh*t?

Metallica - worshiped like the godz of metal and all they've done is one OK album about 18 years ago.

On the jazz tip... some _might_ say that Miles is overated, I mean aside from Kind of Blue and Bitches Brew and maybe Dark Magus.. what else did he do that's worth listening to repeatedly?
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: ian h on March 31, 2005, 03:16:50 pm
my mate has a good tribute site to bryan adams , the video is a pretty good piss take

http://www.runtoyou.co.uk/
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on March 31, 2005, 03:19:14 pm
I think Madness were always crap really, they just struck lucky I think. I'm not too arsed about bands like that who probably never took themselves too seriously anyway.

I got some respect for Madonna for carving out her niche on her own terms but really I don't think most of her music is all that. The best bit of Like a Prayer is the backing choir.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on March 31, 2005, 04:44:51 pm
Madness - I hate those pricks so much. We had a band on the other day at work doing some Madness songs. Arseholes!

Madonna - As Aphex said 'She's just a vampire. She latches onto whoevers big at the moment, gets them to produce her new album and then has a string of hits while taking all the credit.'

Metallica - Some amazing tunes back in the day, but yeah they're pretty overrated and the recent stuff has been pretty dreadful.

Queen - Absolute bollocks :-P

Eminem - First two LPS pretty damn good, and ever since he's been going downhill rapidly.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: dave on March 31, 2005, 11:40:31 pm
queen were fucking superb - there has never been and never will be anyone like them again, fucking amazing. go and listen to some of their albums from the 70s, its fucking unadulterated waddage. pure music, never took themselves too seriously, summert some of the cockpeices these days could take notice of.

(http://keepqueenalive.com.sapo.pt/freddie_mercury_77.jpg)
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: andy bowie on April 01, 2005, 08:34:48 am
haven't read full thread so apologies for repeats but my nominations (contemporary) are:

Franz Ferdinand - so far up their own uber cool asses it must hurt
Joss Stone / Katie Mehula / A N Other dull barrat house music style warbling
the Futureheads - rubbish!
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on April 01, 2005, 08:49:11 am
Franz F are ok imho
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Graeme on April 01, 2005, 09:20:46 am
I quite like the futureheads, its like listening to the jam, before they went shit.

Anyway its about time we started listing under-rated artists.
Title: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: moose on April 01, 2005, 10:45:38 am
I agree with whoever above said that being shit in itself is no bad thing (we all need a laugh) - the problem is being terrible whilst taking yourself really seriously. Bands that rant on about the transcendental nature of their art whilst turning out awful derivative rubbish for people who buy all their albums in supermarkets and petrol stations.

That said I reckon most of your attitude is to do with your age - the bands that irritate me are only really guilty of producing slightly inferior copies of stuff I've already heard.  If it was my first exposure to that sort of music I'd probably love it - although...  Muse fer fucks sake  - Radiohead remodelled for Queen fans who never moved on.....

Have to admit some affection for Coldplay and Franz Ferdinand - saw them both live quite early on: Coldplay 4th on the bill to Campag Velocette - genuinely bubbly and overjoyed that anyone was listening.  Strange to see them so po-faced now  - thats what shagging beautiful actresses and eating macrobiotic food does for you!  Not really their fault they became so ubiquitous so fast.  Same with Snow Patrol - a bit turgid, but the Reindeer Section spinoff albums are really good (Belle and Sebastian-esque for fans of the twee).

Underrated - Explosions in the Sky and 65daysofstatic for fans of GSBYE  / mogwai.  I'm enjoying the arcade fire LP too.
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Post by: andy bowie on April 01, 2005, 11:24:05 am
65 days of static are awesome. saw them live couple of weeks ago and ran out and bought album. very good driving fast to the crag type of music. Sooo much energy.

The thermals - fantastic american punk type stuff. although i guess to be underrated you need to be well known.
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Post by: Graeme on April 01, 2005, 11:45:05 am
I wouldn't say so. You need to be known, and as such underrated. My personal view is that as things hit the mainstream they can become insipid and tame.

Then its time to move on.
My current faves for underrated would have to Open Hand
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Post by: Moo on April 01, 2005, 03:33:22 pm
Again I'm gonna have to disagree with some on the metalica front. Though I will give you that st anger was them doing a red hot chillis or green day and saying, hmm how best to target the masses of 14 year olds that want really badly to have a crisis to whine about.
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Post by: Graeme on April 01, 2005, 03:53:31 pm
Metallica were good until they got Bob Rock to produce their albums and then they became shit simple as. That and the fact they thought lets explore our experimental sides saw them crawl further and further up their own arses, re: Napster.
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Post by: a dense loner on April 01, 2005, 08:25:04 pm
that's true, however thy're still fuckin awesome.

metallica, offspring, ACDC are genius tho i could see they're not to some peoples taste. oasis overrated? philistines, ok they did crawl up thier own arse but that's because what they did was produce tune after tune of glorious addiction. to say that queen are overrated is beyond comprehension and may god have mercy on your soul, the same can be said of pink floyd.
anyone got tina turner sings country? i'll bet not and that in itself should be a crime
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Post by: a dense loner on April 01, 2005, 08:30:16 pm
these names didn't deserve to share a box with the above:
manic street preachers, stereophonics, coldplay, any dopey young looking tidy bit of skirt, DIDO wtf, i can't write anymore must end it...must end it...
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Post by: fatneck on April 01, 2005, 11:24:05 pm
Just got to the stage where i need to really think about what i'm typing, buuut........

i can't say i hate any of the bands/people mentioned so far (apart from sir cliff} alright they've produced some shite, but they wouldn't be well known unless they'd produced at least one decent record. There must be at least one song from all the artists (you know what i mean!) mentioned that most people can sit back and say "that was actually alright!"

maybe i is wrong, but i is feeling a friendly relaxed vibe right now bruthers and sistaaars.

PEACE MAN....

free the weed
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Post by: Johnny Brown on April 02, 2005, 10:10:56 pm
Goddamn I spend a week offline and miss one of my favourite topics...

So far unmentioned, and a personal crusade as far as I am concerned... The fcuking Beatles. How can this boyband be seen as so important is beyond me. Its fcuking embarrassing. I got taken to a beatles night at the leadmill by my mates at uni who were into music so that they could educate me... as it turned out I had the last laugh as they continually apologised 'he'll play a good one next...' I'm still waiting. And the pathetic punning name annoys me every time I see it

More recently, U2, Nirvana and Radiohead have all annoyed me. Of the current stuff, Scissor sisters is definitely the worst - quote Pat King 'all I wanted for christmas were some 8 1/2 lace-ups, and all I got was this fucking Scissor sisters cd'.

But there has only ever been one band that makes me want to kill myself or others - The B-52s. I know (hope) they aren't particuarly rated, but I've had to leave clubs when loveshack comes on. Just writing the name makes me angry....
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Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on April 03, 2005, 12:14:24 am
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
But there has only ever been one band that makes me want to kill myself or others - The B-52s. I know (hope) they aren't particuarly rated, but I've had to leave clubs when loveshack comes on. Just writing the name makes me angry....


Come now JB, how can you knock classic lyrics such as...

"We were at the beach
Everybody had matching towels
Somebody went under a dock
And there they saw a rock
It wasn't a rock
It was a rock lobster"

Something tells me JB protests too much...who thinks he's a closet B52 fan? You just know he's got Cosmic Thing on vinyl hidden away somewhere :lol: .

(http://www.mulch.demon.co.uk/b52s/albums/dance/dance.jpg)
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Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on April 03, 2005, 12:26:51 am
So far unmentioned, and a personal crusade as far as I am concerned...
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The fcuking Beatles. How can this boyband be seen as so important is beyond me. Its fcuking embarrassing. I got taken to a beatles night at the leadmill by my mates at uni who were into music so that they could educate me... as it turned out I had the last laugh as they continually apologised 'he'll play a good one next...' I'm still waiting. And the pathetic punning name annoys me every time I see it


So true!!! The Beatles are just boring, middle of the road, average joe crap.
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Post by: underground on April 03, 2005, 07:51:07 pm
Quote from: "Fingers of a Martyr"
So far unmentioned, and a personal crusade as far as I am concerned...
Quote
The fcuking Beatles. How can this boyband be seen as so important is beyond me. Its fcuking embarrassing. I got taken to a beatles night at the leadmill by my mates at uni who were into music so that they could educate me... as it turned out I had the last laugh as they continually apologised 'he'll play a good one next...' I'm still waiting. And the pathetic punning name annoys me every time I see it


So true!!! The Beatles are just boring, middle of the road, average joe crap.


A-Men, I got crucified at work for daring to say owt against the Beatles. 'No, how can you say that, they're genius' or'...legends'.

Bollocks- any cunt who writes about a yellow submarine, or when I'm 64, or Octopussy's garden is no genius. They're a total cunt. Inspired by LSD? Must have been a fucking boring trip.
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Post by: Jim on April 03, 2005, 08:42:56 pm
word, I hate the beatles too
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Post by: a dense loner on April 03, 2005, 09:07:58 pm
i do as well then
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Post by: Jim on April 03, 2005, 09:12:05 pm
you band wagon jumper, you...
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Post by: SA Chris on April 04, 2005, 08:08:06 am
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
But there has only ever been one band that makes me want to kill myself or others - The B-52s. I know (hope) they aren't particuarly rated, but I've had to leave clubs when loveshack comes on. Just writing the name makes me angry....


I think someone may appear shortly who shares your hatred.

I think the definition of overrates is to enjoy a popularity out of all proportion to actual talent, so find it hard to dislike something when it is a genre of music that I don't know a lot about; jazz for instance, or opera. For all I know the three tenors could be regarded as shite by those in the know.

Scissor Sisters still leave me dumbstruck by their popularity though. Are people really that dense?
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Post by: rowena on April 04, 2005, 10:57:29 am
Oh yes, The B52's Love Shack - NO NO NO!  The most irritating song ever.
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Post by: a dense loner on April 04, 2005, 11:18:58 am
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Are people really that dense?


are you saying that i am all people :?  :wink:
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Post by: Bonjoy on April 04, 2005, 11:52:36 am
What a terrible thought........
(http://ukbouldering.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10110/being.jpg)
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Post by: Bubba on April 04, 2005, 12:15:13 pm
:lol:
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Post by: clm on April 04, 2005, 06:17:33 pm
t shirt number 2 methinks.
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Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on April 05, 2005, 11:14:46 am
Daniel Bedingfield annoys the hell out of me as well. Absolute idiot. His sister's fuckin hot though, so i'll let him off.
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Post by: Bubba on April 05, 2005, 11:19:27 am
Yeah, but she's shit though.

Hotness doesn't excuse shitness in this thread :lol:
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Post by: Johnny Brown on April 05, 2005, 11:28:18 am
She's not that hot either. Not like your avatar anyway.
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Post by: a dense loner on April 05, 2005, 11:58:53 am
you got a thing for clint now johnny?
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Post by: Graeme on April 05, 2005, 12:01:20 pm
Two words Russell Watson.
Smug twat.
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Post by: Falling Down on April 05, 2005, 12:15:43 pm
Quote from: "Bubba"
Hotness doesn't excuse shitness in this thread :lol:


Joss Stone anyone? (you know you would...).
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Post by: Bubba on April 05, 2005, 12:19:12 pm
Well yeah, I would.... but then I don't think Joss is exactly shit.
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Post by: a dense loner on April 05, 2005, 12:32:23 pm
you must be on the outside lookin in
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Post by: saltbeef on April 05, 2005, 02:12:16 pm
the levellerrs, though i don't think anyone rates them. (apart from people who choose to wear dirt)
 franz ferrdinand, they suck too.
scissor sisters (the only reason they're famous is because they're gay and arty and that for some reason makes people who would have read the face think they're good.)
u bloody 2 can piss off as well.
i agree with most of the statements.
natasha bedingfield is blonde this does not make her fit...
i agree cofe autechre are the shizza
dense was looking unsucessfully for queen on my i pod.
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Post by: saltbeef on April 05, 2005, 02:17:50 pm
tommytwotone, ypu're deluded radiohead are fantastic. slightly self indulgent and obvioulsy the fitter happierr one is shit but some of the best music ever made, in my opinion, and i'll fight anyone that argues.
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Post by: SA Chris on April 05, 2005, 02:29:34 pm
I challenge you to listen to Kid A and Amnesiac back to back and still say that.
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Post by: Johnny Brown on April 05, 2005, 02:59:30 pm
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I challenge you to listen to Kid A and Amnesiac back to back


I challenge anyone to do that without reaching for either the prozac or a sharp implement. Had the 'pleasure' of seeing radiohead live before they were big, supporting james (how things change eh?). They got booed off stage to chants of 'piss off you miserable southern geeks'.
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Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on April 05, 2005, 03:51:33 pm
Quote from: "Bubba"
Yeah, but she's shit though.

Hotness doesn't excuse shitness in this thread :lol:


 :lol:

I actually didn't find her latest single too repulsive, and i challenge anyone to watch the video and not think she's hot. mmmm natasha :wink:

But the biggest prick ever hasn't been mentioned yet, maybe because he's not rated at all, but that gimp from Savage Garden, Darren whats-his-face, jesus my dad insisted on playing his latest album in the car once, had half a mind to open the door and take a chance with the road rather than listen to lyrics such as 'My love is insatiable i want to taste everydrop' :roll:
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Post by: saltbeef on April 05, 2005, 04:02:01 pm
miserable music doesn't necessarily make you feel miserable. the prozac won't touch you for 3 weeks anyway. presumably everyone at the james gig sat down in time with the music... (surely james are the m people for geography teachers). paradoxically i have amnesiac and kid a on a tape back to back, i haven't commited suicide yet, obviously the music is not in charge of my emotions, i think that might be my cerebral cortex.
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Post by: clm on April 05, 2005, 06:17:35 pm
guns n roses
i really never understood...
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Post by: Johnny Brown on April 05, 2005, 06:50:33 pm
I'll second that. Sounds like he's got a ferret down his trousers.

Back to Radiohead - I listen to a lot of what people term 'miserable' music, so I know what you mean. But its not the music its Yorke's whingeing weedy voice, forever complaining. As my Mum used to say, he sounds like he needs to pull himself together.
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Post by: moose on April 05, 2005, 06:57:01 pm
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
But its not the music its Yorke's whingeing weedy voice, forever complaining. As my Mum used to say, he sounds like he needs to pull himself together.


I once toyed with the idea of writing a sit-com pilot - an odd couple kinda thingy with Thom York and Brian Blessed.... No plot to speak of, just the Blessed wandering around booming and bellowing, trying to cheer-up Thom who spends his days quivering in a foetal position on the kitchen floor, (perhaps expressing his existential angst with piteous mewling sounds....).
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Post by: Falling Down on April 05, 2005, 07:08:21 pm
Quote from: "moose"
Quote from: "Johnny Brown"
But its not the music its Yorke's whingeing weedy voice, forever complaining. As my Mum used to say, he sounds like he needs to pull himself together.


I once toyed with the idea of writing a sit-com pilot - an odd couple kinda thingy with Thom York and Brian Blessed.... No plot to speak of, just the Blessed wandering around booming and bellowing, trying to cheer-up Thom who spends his days quivering in a foetal position on the kitchen floor, (perhaps expressing his existential angst with piteous mewling sounds....).


 :lol: C'mon Bonjoy we need an animated .gif of that shurely!
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Post by: saltbeef on April 05, 2005, 07:28:47 pm
at school i was friends with thom yorke's cousin (in a before they were famous kind of way) anyway met him at some wierd family gathering, he didn't seem particularly meek. anyway we'll agree to differ.
 as for g'n'f'n'r they're well good. obviously you've lost your mind appetite for destruction is one of the best rock and roll albums ever.
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Post by: Johnny Brown on April 05, 2005, 07:42:25 pm
From what you have recently posted I deduce your music taste is shit.
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Post by: saltbeef on April 05, 2005, 08:35:07 pm
that's pretty rare coming from someone who admitted to going to see james
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Post by: a dense loner on April 05, 2005, 11:26:02 pm
guns n roses shit, you must be on drugs
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Post by: Jim on April 05, 2005, 11:49:02 pm
lets just get a few things straight, g'n'r and queen are amazing.
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Post by: Pantontino on April 06, 2005, 12:00:19 am
I detest G 'n' Rs, I hate everything that Blur stood for, but I have subsequently been charmed by The Dears who have taken the best of what that this bunch of floppy ponces mustered and have run magnificently towards the horizon (check them out).

As for Radiohead - I rate OK Computer and Kid A, but the latest stuff leaves me cold. (that's me agreeing to differ)

Nobody has mentioned Kylie yet, so I will. I don't get it. She can't sing, she has such a contrived stage presence I can't imagine any sane being finding anything of worth in her pathetic prancing (not dancing - just prancing). And she is absolutely not the sex bomb that the cnuts in the marketing dept would have us believe. Utterly sexless (and talentless) as far as I'm concerned. Don't believe the hype.
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Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on April 06, 2005, 12:15:41 am
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And she is absolutely not the sex bomb that the cnuts in the marketing dept would have us believe. Utterly sexless (and talentless) as far as I'm concerned. Don't believe the hype.


 :shock:

Was that a subtle way of coming out Si? :wink:

EDIT: I have found contrary evidence to the above nonsense :wink:

(http://3littlepigs.free.fr/images/kylie%20c.jpg)
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Post by: Pantontino on April 06, 2005, 12:40:49 am
I have come across this 'Kylie' blindness before. A mate of mine years back would sit and watch videos of her in tranced out state. Fool - buxom dark haired gypsy ladies have always been where it's at.

Just another skinny blonde as far as I'm concerned, but if it works for you - we'll just have to agree to differ.

(Wierd coincidence - Kylie's latest single has just come on the radio - sounded like a very weak version of Goldfrapp's Black Cherry. I rest my case.)
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Post by: Bubba on April 06, 2005, 08:24:03 am
Everyone likes Kylie coz she's cute and smiley and has a fine ass - I don't think it has *anything* to do with her music. I have been subjected to a whole album whilst in somebody elses car and I can safely say it was utter shite.

The current Natasha B track was on the radio on my way home last night....."ooooh, I bruise easily.....so treat me gently...." whine whine simper simper. Let me tell you Natasha, I'll be the first in line to beat you black and blue with a baseball bat. Shut up and fuck off.
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Post by: moose on April 06, 2005, 11:04:26 am
Quote from: "saltbeef"
at school i was friends with thom yorke's cousin (in a before they were famous kind of way) anyway met him at some wierd family gathering, he didn't seem particularly meek. anyway we'll agree to differ.
 as for g'n'f'n'r they're well good. obviously you've lost your mind appetite for destruction is one of the best rock and roll albums ever.


I am actually a Radiohead fan - I just think Thom Yorke sometimes doesn't do himself any favours image wise (though I doubt he gives a toss).  Though I have to admit that my interest has waned from Kid A onwards.  There's a place for intelligent rock - and their earlier stuff (Pablo, Bends, OK Computer) was probably the best around.  Although their later stuff is still very good I just think there are other bands that do the same sort of thing, but  better.  For my money, Mogwai, GSYE, Sigur Ros, Explosions in the Sky, (and maybe 65daysofstatic) all make a better stab of expressing the lyrically inexpressable via pure sound - Radiohead's problem for me is that they've trespassed on the grounds of masters and not gone far enough.

GnR - saw them play at Leeds a couple of years ago - I'd forgotten how many great songs they'd done.  Reminded being 15 and having arguments about  whether ' use your illusion 1 or 2 was best.  Sometimes you need prodding away from being a fucking holier than thou indie snob and just ROCK!

Not sure about the Dears LP (no cities left?) - bought on the strength of loads of heavy recommendations and just though it was a bit standard  - earnest rock fronted by a morrissy impressionist.  Perhaps I ought to give it another chance.  Curent favourite LP though is Funeral by Arcade Fire  - proper bo' .

PS my darkest ever musical moment - a 4 hour car trip with someone who insisited on playing the Space album on repeat all the way (Neighbourhood, Female of the Species etc).  Torute via the medium of sonic shite - to this day I start screaming uncontrollably if I hear a scouse accent.
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Post by: saltbeef on April 06, 2005, 12:33:56 pm
my darkest musical moment... in a car from ceuse to ailefroide in a car with only a cd player(radio didn't work) roxette on repeat...
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Post by: a dense loner on April 06, 2005, 12:37:27 pm
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Everyone likes Kylie coz she's cute and smiley


he's a lyrical gangsta
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Post by: Fingers of a Martyr on April 06, 2005, 01:04:32 pm
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The current Natasha B track was on the radio on my way home last night....."ooooh, I bruise easily.....so treat me gently...." whine whine simper simper. Let me tell you Natasha, I'll be the first in line to beat you black and blue with a baseball bat. Shut up and fuck off.


WAT?!?! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

A tad extreme :D , lmao!
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Post by: Bubba on September 01, 2006, 07:25:26 pm

I felt this needed dragging up again. Why?

I'll tell you why...

That CUNT Robbie Williams' single, "Rude Box". This is one of the shittest records I have ever heard in my life. In fact, words fail me to even begin to describe how shit it it is - aaaaghghghghghg!!!!
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Post by: Duma on September 01, 2006, 07:29:00 pm
he is a cock - and I'm not that happy with you for reminding me of it, but I reckon it was worthwhile to see one of FOAM's signatures again - where are you?
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Post by: Houdini on September 01, 2006, 07:52:27 pm
Pixies, Nirvana, Interpol, Lil Kim, Atomic Kitten, REM, Craig David, David Gray, Evan Dando, Hole, Fatboy Slim, Paul Weller, Acker Bilk, Smashing Pumpkins, Lionel Richie, Barry White, Franz Ferdinand, White Stripes, Metallica, Chemical Brothers, Beyonce, Jimi Tenor, The Cure, Oasis, Blur, Skunk Anansie, Ice T, Ice Cube, Dexy's Midnight Runners, Korn, Dave Lee Roth, Pussycat Dolls, Mr Bungle, Robbie Williams, Cher, Sinead O'Connor and last but certainly not least, the worst band on the planet The fuckin Cranberries.  Scum.  Die.
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Post by: Bubba on September 01, 2006, 07:56:39 pm

I'd beg to differ on a few of those, but agree with most of them....
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Post by: Houdini on September 01, 2006, 08:12:24 pm
And very definitely Guns n Roses.  That's just retard shit.  Queen are amazing.  Jim: you're weird!

Björk: fuck her. 
Joss Stone: fuck her twice.
Michael Jackson: drown him.
Brandon Block:  castrate.
Suzi Quattro:  beat to death.
Henry Rollins:  tattoo to death.
Eurythmics:  whatever.
Paul Van Dyk:  drug him!
Dave Clarke:  feed him to death.



 
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Post by: richdraws on September 01, 2006, 09:53:43 pm
Oasis - like life in limbo without the interesting fun parts.
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - atleast for the past 5 years have been tedious.
The Raconteurs - bought it -  shelved it - binned it?
REM - drone
Arctic Monkeys...........right
Kasabian - proper horse
Morrissey - I stress Morrissey not The Smiths
Norah 'I make Burt Bacharach look avant garde' Jones
The Streets - chores


Oh and I think I spotted the cure in a bad list - so so wrong you musical doyle.
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Post by: dave on September 01, 2006, 10:12:03 pm
The Streets - I can do without these shitballs. words cannot express my utter contempt for their music. But that contempt is surpassed by my total loathing of our next contender:

Robbie fucking Williams - jesus H christ if I see Kate Thornton on another "I love the top 100 bet number 1s ever" programme spouting some shite like "The best thing about robbie is all the girls love him, and all the blokes do too!" then I'll stick a fucking piano leg through her idiotic face. What kind of men do you knock about with Kate? blind deaf mentalists? All the men i've ever known think he's a cunt. How dare he invade my conciousness with such shite as "ohh yeah I did and load of drugs and i was really fucked up but now i realised that was a bad idea", so what do you want williams, a fucking medal? who would have thought snorting your own not-inconsiderable body weight in cocaine would perhaps not be a wise idea? you stupid fuck. go back to dancing in dungarees, leathe hotpants and greasy curtain at the back of the stage at take that gigs. Fuck me Barlow's got a lot to answer for letting you near a mic. and you can't find happyness with anyone? heres the worlds smallest violin mate.  :boohoo:

I'm note sure i could describe michael jackson as overrated. OK his output for the last 15years has been shite and he's a mental excentric paedophile, but those minor flaws aside the early stuff is/was dynamite. Would have been better for his artistic integrity (and perhaps for a few kids backsides) if some obsessed fan had gunned him down in the late 80s like happened to that Lennon mofo. harsh I know but true. :oops:

Whoever said Queen were good, I salute you. Glad to know me and dense aren't alone. :bow:
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Post by: richdraws on September 01, 2006, 10:29:33 pm
robbie williams is a huge target for Most over rated artist. Fair enough the lad is a gurning, 'Celtic' tattoed, talentless, entertainer type, pantomime queen that could potentially blind you into thinking Justin timberlake was worth a shite. But still at least when his albums are being sold next to the pork scratchings in petrol stations we can all feel self righteous. Oasis however contrive to be accepted as a good band............ ?
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Post by: Pantontino on September 01, 2006, 11:51:09 pm
Surfer Rosa by the Pixies is one of the greatest records ever made - that's an indisputable fact as much as water makes you wet.

I never really got Dexy's the first time round, but listening to Mark Lamarr's late night R2 show I've had my head turned of late. They might have been geniuses after all. Are they over rated anyway?
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Post by: Bubba on September 01, 2006, 11:58:31 pm
I'm note sure i could describe michael jackson as overrated. OK his output for the last 15years has been shite and he's a mental excentric paedophile, but those minor flaws aside the early stuff is/was dynamite. Would have been better for his artistic integrity (and perhaps for a few kids backsides) if some obsessed fan had gunned him down in the late 80s like happened to that Lennon mofo. harsh I know but true.

 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Houdini on September 02, 2006, 08:16:53 am
Pixies - Trash.  Likeable trash.  But trash nevertheless.  Owned/played them all Come On Pilgrim my favourite, but later, when you grow up hear more from those years and root around, you realise they filled a gap in a particularly unfertile time in rock musics' history.  Reformations are unforgivable.  After Surfa Rosa, they stopped pushing and maybe should've broke up while ahead vis a vis Big Black.  :yawn:  You've been had!

Queen are great, and they are: hugely influential.  Full of humour and pathos, strut, and scratch and sniff.  Queen, an odd but great band.  (Caff has a massive weakness for Queen.)
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Post by: Houdini on September 02, 2006, 09:44:31 am
Time for Sonic Youth to die too. 

This band used to be amazing, even with Kim Gordon.  Now they tread water comfortably having defined their sound. 

Did I say Dylan?  Dylans' music is over-rated.
Pavement.  Always were over-rated, now we look back on shit music fondly.  They sucked live.
Luke Slater.  Has his moments, but was he ever that good?

The Stone Roses.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Moo on September 02, 2006, 10:19:54 am
The eagles I am with the big lebowski on the eagles die eagles die, you will take it easy no more.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 02, 2006, 04:03:02 pm
Time for Sonic Youth to die too. 

This band used to be amazing, even with Kim Gordon.  Now they tread water comfortably having defined their sound. 

I quite rate some of the SYR stuff...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 02, 2006, 05:16:55 pm
Luke Slater.  Has his moments, but was he ever that good?
Not heard any of his stuff for ages but his old stuff was quality. He was a damn good DJ the few times I saw him too.

The Stone Roses
Hmmm....Fools Gold is one of my fave tracks ever so I'll have to disagree.

Dave Clarke rocks as well. Are you mad? ;)
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Post by: superfurrymonkey on September 03, 2006, 01:38:52 am
Stone Roses no way, now Oasis totally totally over rated. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 03, 2006, 02:33:04 am
Stone Roses.  From their inception to their death, they peddled backwards: that was their way.  Some choose to forge new ground, mine new territory.  The Stone Roses...   I can't be arsed...

Dave Clarke's lost it.  Check last mixes and new album for details.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 03, 2006, 08:22:43 am

You mean World Service 2, or something else? I rate it.
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Post by: Houdini on September 03, 2006, 12:41:27 pm
RE Clarke: No Bubs.  Devil's Advocate.  Worlds Serives 2 poor also.  He loose his techno soul and find it in electro (he got good taste in electro). 

It's a personality thing.  The arrogant superstar DJ, the fancy wagons, all that scowling, over eating food I can't afford, big cigars and overly large cut crystal brandy glasses being swirled palms-up by his pudgy little hands...  Going on the total package - gone off him.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 03, 2006, 04:08:27 pm

There's a classic track on Devil's Advocate - eerrrm can't remember the name though. WS/WS2 are both excellent imho, but I also think the electro stuff is better than the techno.

I don't care about his lifestyle, it's the music that's important. Fuck, if we start getting into personality/lifestyle issues then a whole slew of artists would be ready for the noose :)

I think he's one of the few who doesn't fit the superstar DJ cliche tbh. He's not into drugs, is quite political and just ploughs his own groove. Didn't see him playing shite trance for years just coz it was trendy in Ibiza, did we?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 04, 2006, 07:57:11 am
I don't care about his lifestyle, it's the music that's important. Fuck, if we start getting into personality/lifestyle issues then a whole slew of artists would be ready for the noose :)

Good idea in principal, but I'd get bored with that pretty quick.  Sometimes the music and it's maker can't be seperated (not sure Clarke's a good exaple of this though) and that makes it all the more interesting.  To be frank, I just don't like the look of him and his jowls/scowls.  What the fuck's your problem Clarke?  Buy a new smile!

Lenny Kravitz.  A man whose hair-do's change on the month every month.  Strut!  Wiggle! Thrust!  Shred my axe!  Pout!  Slay your face!                                 Give it a rest Len, go home!

There are so many juicy ways Kravitz could die that I can't decide.  Maybe strapped to a rocket, or beaten to death with an ex-Hendrix guitar, eat his own afro...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: fatboySlimfast on September 04, 2006, 09:56:42 am
Having listened to The Feeling via various radio stations over the last week, can I ask the question when did Supertramp make a comeback?
Shite, umitigated shite
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Post by: Pantontino on September 04, 2006, 09:59:51 am
Dylan can be forgiven for any percieved crimes because of Blood on the Tracks (I also rate Blonde on Blonde and Nashville Skyline, and Chronicles is an excellent book), the same goes for Sonic Youth and Daydream Nation. And as for Pavement, are you serious? I still listen to this band all the time, they were consistently good.

Let's stick to hanging the real villains: Robbie Williams, Lenny Kravitz, Cliff Richard, Bon Jovi etc
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Post by: SA Chris on September 04, 2006, 10:16:33 am
Robbie Williams; that new track is fucking awful, thought he couldn't get any worse. Would love to do a wolf creek on him.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 04, 2006, 10:19:32 am
Pavement=slacker poop.  Always got the impression they could do better but couldn't be arsed.  Steven Malkmus=meh.  Their early idiot drummer, oh dear, OK for raising a pissed smile.. & handing out grapes too... (tres wacky!  Not exactly soloing Bathtime with The Waterboys on your headphones, is it?!).  but hey!  You say Tomaytaz!

Nashville Skyline is great esp. for Lady lay lay.  But so is Isis on t'other LP.  Today he MOR.  Against the highs of his earlier output he looks reet-tired.  All very Elder Statesman but a disappointing one.  Bit like Clapton.  Do they bring the rock?  

Agree.  The Williams' track scrapes new and even for him appauling lows.  I feel slightly embarrased for him, hope he hasn't blown all the cash.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on September 04, 2006, 01:27:56 pm
Clapton is an interesting case. Feted as some kind of musical god, but I've always found his output to be curiously soulless, and I quite like guitar solos (if they are well executed and don't go on too long, that is).

The Waterboys - you tempt me to dismiss this lot of dreamers as the Levellers of their generation, but then again they were never that cheesy, or that shite. Although, they were the sort of band mostly liked by people who don't like music.

Pavement - go back and listen to Slanted..., crooked rain and Brighten the Corners. So many great moments. I love this band.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 04, 2006, 02:18:59 pm
Find a best of Cream CD.  That's where you'll find Claptons' best work.  Slowhand is also acceptable but nothing compared to Cream.  Great power-trio blues rock.  Great drums.  He's had a mad & sad life has Eric.

Crossroads by Cream (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nkrDW7XjSf8)

Pavement (note godawful rhythm section & other ubiquitous naffness to be spotted everywhere in this song) A disgraceful live act. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=QT68lamPedU)


SY used to be this good (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2a8q1yZi3lU)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 06, 2006, 07:15:37 am
Artic Monkeys  eh... Trucker Apes?



Start again.  Arctic Monkeys.  How they have just sold 360 000 LP's in one week is a mystery.  How?  How?

Eureka!  I've got it!  We're idiots!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 06, 2006, 07:38:30 am
well, the esteemed panel for the mercury would disagree with you there houdi


at least one can find solace in the fact that being awarded the mercury is the industry equivalent of the black spot, even franz ferdinand haven't been quite as bright since..
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 06, 2006, 08:30:48 am
The esteemed Mercury Panel can eat the peanuts outta my shit!


Dump Foragers.

Franz Ferdinand - Gang of Four for retards.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 06, 2006, 08:53:34 am

at least one can find solace in the fact that being awarded the mercury is the industry equivalent of the black spot, even franz ferdinand haven't been quite as bright since..

I hope so. Now that they have administered the kiss of death to the monkeys they will disappear into obscurity.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 06, 2006, 09:00:43 am

Doubt it - a 2nd album probably won't be far away. I really rate them.

Shame Hot Chip didn't win though.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Yossarian on September 06, 2006, 10:22:53 am

On the jazz tip... some _might_ say that Miles is overated, I mean aside from Kind of Blue and Bitches Brew and maybe Dark Magus.. what else did he do that's worth listening to repeatedly?

i just spluttered my lungs up.

just in the last week or so  -  miles and the modern jazz giants, in a silent way (almost definitely my most played cd), live evil,  birth of the cool, tribute to jack johnson, my funny valentine (live in concert), milestones. (i should admit that i have been driving quite a lot)

and sketches of spain, someday my prince will come, bitches brew, pangea, cookin' fairly recently too.

so, my overrated list:

the james taylor quartet
radiohead
alanis morissette
sting
badly drawn boy
cher
wynton marsalis
daft punk
enya
steve miller
blondie
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 06, 2006, 10:30:03 am
Badly Drawn Boy needs to be Hung, Drawn & Quartered. 

Sti...  Sti...   Sti...  No, I can't do it!



And lets not forget My Bloody Valentine.  A career in cack.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 06, 2006, 11:31:02 am
Shoot me down in flames....

Public Enemy.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 06, 2006, 11:53:07 am
how fucking dare you!  :jaw:


they haven't aged too well tho...

(http://www.publicenemy.com/pressimg/pepress.jpg)


Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 06, 2006, 11:57:23 am
He who dares. 

That guy with the clock-thang!  On a par with Bez.  Marginally better perhaps? 

It'll take a nation of millions to make me listen to Public Enemy again.

We glossed over this motherfucker far too quickly:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/79.jpg)  Yes, dressing in purple will both thicken & lengthen your penis!  (I'm lovin' that bum-fluff thing on his top lip so bad!)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 06, 2006, 12:03:33 pm
i'd lick his dirty sanchez








my bad
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Nibile on September 06, 2006, 03:29:59 pm
my overrated list:
U2
oasis
pink floyd

i dont mention all the likes of 50cents, christina aguilera, britney, p diddy, mariah carey, cos they obviously have nothing to do with music.

HEY HO LETS GO
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: AndyR on September 06, 2006, 07:09:35 pm
the same goes for Sonic Youth and Daydream Nation. And as for Pavement, are you serious? I still listen to this band all the time, they were consistently good.

Let's stick to hanging the real villains: Robbie Williams, Lenny Kravitz, Cliff Richard, Bon Jovi etc

Agree - last Sonic Youth album was genius, and Pavement were always great.

I think we're veering into some subtle personal interpretations here, rather than concentrating on the real bastards.....
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on September 06, 2006, 07:13:55 pm

Doubt it - a 2nd album probably won't be far away. I really rate them.

Shame Hot Chip didn't win though.

ditto.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Monolith on September 06, 2006, 07:16:04 pm
Yup, U2 and Oasis can sod off and shut up. If I see another R & B video in the gym, shopping centre, anywhere I will most likely explode. And hence in that category falls any contemporary charting 'hip-hop' outfit. Those frauds are so far removed from the original B-Boy style it's untrue.

Can I also add a rant against Bob Dylan, Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand. Most importantly, I fucking hate Outkast. Cue "Hey-Ya is amazing what are you on about!?". Cue in your face you idiot. Sorry I'm angry today fellows, it's the seasonal change I'm sure.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 06, 2006, 08:33:02 pm
pink floyd

Holy shit man, the Floyd are awesome!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: the_dom on September 06, 2006, 09:14:25 pm
my overrated list:
U2
oasis
pink floyd


Couldn't agree more. They are all universally shite.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 06, 2006, 10:01:13 pm
pink floyd

Holy shit man, the Floyd are awesome!

I prefer the album  Easy Star All Star - Dub Side of the Moon mesen- but Pink Floyd were a bit before my time....
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 06, 2006, 10:12:28 pm
And while we're at it, get off Pavement!!!! Here's a better example (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LCsEBEO-guw&mode=related&search=) -  fucks sake, I went to a Sugar gig at Sheff Uni and heard absolutely, literally fuck all, it was set up so badly - does that mean Husker Du were wank aswell?

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 07, 2006, 06:52:02 am
Pavement are so easy to walk on.   Over-rated, overly derivative*.  At times they could be reasonable - yet mostly they performed poorly.  The beauty of Pavement is that in reality they were trying 3 times harder than anyone imaged they could.  For me, Pavement as a band are synomymous with Rock Failure.  Failure to rock out.  They are the aural equivalent of post-phaal ablutions.

Underground.  I'm blown away you manage to fit Husker Du in the same sentence as Pavement, for whatever reason.  Surely any Husker Du record blows away Pavements' entire recorded output.  Steven Malkmus & the Jicks get short shrift too.

As you can see - I'm a rabid hater.  I really could go on all fucking day, but they're just not worthy of so much attention.  I despise this slop/spazz/long fringe piss-poor excuse for rock music.  It lacks balls.  It lacks danger.  It lacks sex.  It lacks.

There's more Rock in Phil Lynotts' cod-piece.


*Mark. E. Smith hates them too!




Nine Inch Nails blow goats.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 07, 2006, 07:54:23 am
pink floyd

Holy shit man, the Floyd are awesome!

Word to that. Fair enough, the stuff they produced from Final Cut onwards was pretty mediocre, and the first couple of albums were pretty out there, but the rest is brilliant.
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Post by: Bubba on September 07, 2006, 09:05:36 am

Have you heard Underground's rec. of Dub Side of the Moon Chris? You'd probably like it.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 07, 2006, 10:50:09 am
Heard bits of it, not the whole thing. Need to at some point.
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Post by: Pantontino on September 07, 2006, 01:27:02 pm
Good post Underground. If you don't like that Pavement song, you must have a cabbage stuffed in your ear. So, they are bit 'safe' and college preppy, but you don't have to be out there on the edge injecting crack into your eyeballs to make great music.

Houdini, your reference to Nine Inch Nails proves the point - so extreme maaan!, but so what? Of course Trent Reznor is forgiven because he did write Hurt, and thus unwittingly provided Johnny Cash with a possible career highpoint.

Husker Du are one of my favourite bands (Zen Arcade and New Day Rising being two of the best records ever made), but Bob Mould is just as guilty as, say Sonic Youth, or Bob Dylan, or any of the other great artists who you have condemned of producing average and uninteresting music too.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: fatboySlimfast on September 07, 2006, 01:51:56 pm
Quote
Husker Du are one of my favourite bands

saw them in '85, very very good.
Also saw sugar at the leadmill in '92, again excellent. Both times full on aural assault, no wonder bob Mould has permanent hearing shift.


Now Prince, theres a thing. One okish album(sign of the times) but most of which is tosh, the rest complete bag of bollox. Everyone always going on about how hes a genius, ok well why is most of his output shit then. Also have you noticed hes got progressively less hairy over the last decade.
Also Stevie Wonder..........anything after Songs in the key of life(parts of which are crap as well!). Again labelled genius although 'I just called to say' should rule out anything ever done in anybodys career.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 07, 2006, 02:41:35 pm
Johnny Cash

This man stands very well on his own without Hurt.  Which is good.  But Cash was a genius by the time Trent was dribbling.  wtf?

Every band mentioned makes bad music.  Your favourite bands sometimes make/made bad music, we agree.  Your extreme ref. confuses me.  I don't recall championing all bands on basis of whether they have
insane heads or make white noise.  It is occasionally interesting though, you must concede. Non?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on September 07, 2006, 03:25:26 pm
Yes, extremeness (if such a word exists) can be interesting, but I got the impression that the reason you disliked Pavement is because they are a bunch of soft middle class mummy's boys. This would certainly be the reason why Mark E Smith would dislike them, that and the fact that he so paranoid and egotistical he thinks everybody, Pavement included, was/is copying him.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: lurkio on September 07, 2006, 06:25:03 pm
Quote
Yes, extremeness (if such a word exists) can be interesting, but I got the impression that the reason you disliked Pavement is because they are a bunch of soft middle class mummy's boys. This would certainly be the reason why Mark E Smith would dislike them, that and the fact that he so paranoid and egotistical he thinks everybody, Pavement included, was/is copying him.

Is there anybody Mark E Smith does like? Of course, all bands are overrated compared to the mighty Fall
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 07, 2006, 08:43:17 pm
Wtf?  He looks perfectly OK to me...

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/images-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 07, 2006, 09:28:53 pm

Currently very overhyped - The Killers.

They're not bad but they're not *that* good either.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on September 07, 2006, 09:58:20 pm
The current crop of NME bands (Killers, Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand etc) leave me cold. I'm sure Mark E Smith agrees...

I saw The Fall supporting the Super Furries at Bangor rugby club in 97, and my mate got Mark E Smith's autograph on the blag that it was for his son. He said Mr Smith was almost disappointingly pleasant.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: andy_e on September 07, 2006, 10:01:16 pm
AFI are overrated.    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: Booooooooooooooooooring. Samey as anything.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 07, 2006, 10:18:09 pm
Quote from: Houdini
Underground.  I'm blown away you manage to fit Husker Du in the same sentence as Pavement, for whatever reason.  Surely any Husker Du record blows away Pavements' entire recorded output.  Steven Malkmus & the Jicks get short shrift too.
It lacks balls.  It lacks danger.  It lacks sex.  It lacks.

There's more Rock in Phil Lynotts' cod-piece.


*Mark. E. Smith hates them too!
Well what can I say? Personally I could live for eternity and never have to bedrudge myself with the likes of Mark E. Smith's awful vocals on 'I want you' by the Inspirals - no doubt you hate them. I haven't explored The Fall's extensive back catalogue on the strength of that lazy vocal dirgey wank.

As far as Pavement are concerned, and putting it in context of what I meant, hear me now:

You posted a link to a Youtube video of a live performance of a pretty shit performance of an unremarkable song. And go on to imply that this is indicative of Pavement's entire output. Which I have scientifically proven to be wrong in my post above. So meh.

I then made the analogy of a wasted 3 hours, let alone hmm, probably 8 quid of beer money that could have been better spent getting wasted, on a Sugar concert, whereby I stood in the mosh pit unable to hear fuck all due to rubbish engineering of the sound, and a lazy fucker called Bob who just blasted workmanlike through the set. By your logic that makes his entire output shit aswell, hence my inclusion of Husker Du in the same sentence as Pavement


Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 07, 2006, 10:32:51 pm

What about Richard Ashcroft? Is he really the genius he's presented as?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: al on September 07, 2006, 10:43:01 pm
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What about Richard Ashcroft? Is he really the genius he's presented as?
no, he's a deluded poseur and braggard
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 07, 2006, 10:48:10 pm
Quote
What about Richard Ashcroft? Is he really the genius he's presented as?
no, he's a deluded poseur and braggard

Yes. The Verve made the great album 'A storm in heaven' and then 'A Northern Soul' the second of which someone stole off me but I recall it being OK- History was a single and I still rate it, with all its grandeur and the strings, it sounds brilliant.

Solo albums= rubbish, plain and simple. Didn't he face a 'Lawsuit for 'People get ready' for the derivation of the rhythm / chorus from James Brown or summat? It was a soul artist I know that much.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 08, 2006, 07:12:35 am
Sorry Underground. Just don't FEEL anything from the music of Pavement.  Rarely FEEL anything from the music of Hüsker Du either  (though I know their place in the pantheon).    Never FELT anything from Sugar.  Inspirals?  They were fun enough as ear-candy...  Feel free to explore the Fall, you'll find them patchy too.  But before you write them off, consider their longevity and what that can mean in terms of the influence they've had. 

When I consider the magnificent acts around during Pavements' tenure (for example The Jesus Lizard), then back to Pavement, I don't feel so fond of them.  Let's put Pavement to bed, maybe. 
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: the_dom on September 08, 2006, 07:22:14 am
When I consider the magnificent acts around during Pavements' tenure (for example The Jesus Lizard)

Agreed - an awesome band who never got the recognition they deserve. Boilermaker and Mouthbreather must be two of the best songs ever.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 08, 2006, 07:49:35 am
Just another human beings' opinion of course, yet I note the inclusion of both the Roses & Pavement in the top twenty.  Shame they didn't expand.

http://www.listology.com/content_show.cfm/content_id.24592/Music
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 09, 2006, 10:18:06 am
Feel free to explore the Fall, you'll find them patchy too.  But before you write them off, consider their longevity and what that can mean in terms of the influence they've had. 

When I consider the magnificent acts around during Pavements' tenure (for example The Jesus Lizard), then back to Pavement, I don't feel so fond of them.  Let's put Pavement to bed, maybe. 

..all tucked in. Now then, I am currently treating myself to a first listen of '50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong' and rather than finding it as previously expected, it's hitting a chord with me. The first comparison I made was with the recent song that goes 'Daft Punk are playing at my house'

Do you know, I think I'm going to like them- some of them anyway, some I've had to forward straight past - and yes, I'm quite intrigued to learn more of this Mark E. Smith and the donkey's years The Fall have been around. My previous exposure was of him pissed up on the Late Show after the sad demise of John Peel.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Andy F on September 09, 2006, 03:28:04 pm
I've got to interupt this Pavement discourse and suggest Nirvana. Bag of hideously over-rate shite.The best thing about Kurt dying (not to say that was a good thing, it wasn't), was the Foo's came into existance, who IMHO are much better. But not brilliant you understand, just better than Nirvana.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 09, 2006, 04:06:04 pm
Congratulations on discovering The Fall, Underground.  Here (http://www.adriandenning.co.uk/thefall.html) is their discography with a review for each album.  Choose carefully, there is much to be turned-off by, but much to be excited with.  Good luck.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: andy_e on September 09, 2006, 07:10:10 pm
I've got to interupt this Pavement discourse and suggest Nirvana. Bag of hideously over-rate shite.The best thing about Kurt dying (not to say that was a good thing, it wasn't), was the Foo's came into existance, who IMHO are much better. But not brilliant you understand, just better than Nirvana.
:bow:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 11, 2006, 11:18:41 am
i'm prepared to be set aflame here but:

basement jaxx
chemical brothers
faithless
groove armada
underworld

over hyped, under delivered
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Stubbs on September 11, 2006, 11:25:21 am
 :agree:

especially underworld and faithless, I really can't stand faithless.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 11, 2006, 12:49:30 pm
i'm prepared to be set aflame here but:

basement jaxx
chemical brothers
faithless
groove armada
underworld

over hyped, under delivered

Bang on every step of the way.   Especially faithless.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Sam on September 11, 2006, 01:09:02 pm
the fucking Bee Gees. Inadequate song writing, ridiculous vocals covered up and glossed over by state-of-the-art production into the blueprint for boybands of the next 30 years :thumbsdown: hairy, squeaky cunts!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 11, 2006, 07:26:45 pm
I have to condemn Faithless, although I do rather like their 'Back To Mine' compilation.

My nomination for today goes to Manic Street Preachers, post The Holy Bible for a descent into making flaccid, spiritless 'music' seemingly intended to pander to the chart contributing public.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 11, 2006, 08:27:55 pm
Quote from: dave
... basically i hate all whiney spoilt middle-class suicide heroin guitar shit (..... radiohead, etc)..

Think we'll have to agree to differ on this - nothing like radiohead to polarise the listeners (personally, I think they are evidence of at least some intelligence in modern music...).

Can we all get back to singing from the same hymn sheet? Can we restart with Cliff godbotherer Richard and Tom Jones? Hate, hate, hate....

Kid A is a very good record, I think.

I loved 'Sir Cliff' calling Ramsay a cunt when he was asked to taste various wines (of which some were cheap, some were dear - and Gordon mentioned the price)

Preictably He (note the 'He' as one would refer to Our Lord God) loved the spenny ones, and predictably said that the cheap one tasted like vinegar and he'd never buy it nor drink it. Unfortunately it was one of his own, from his own vineyard. Off his own 'label'. I wonder who is the real cunt?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 11, 2006, 09:24:37 pm
Set phasers to Kill!




Jamiroquai 


Singled handedly responsible for turning Britain from a sceptr'd to a septic isle.  Someone should mow him down.  And soon.  How can someone shoot Westwood and not Jamwhatever is beyond me.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Dr T on September 11, 2006, 09:47:06 pm
 :agree: in so many ways
had a girlfriend once who loved him
didn't last long
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 11, 2006, 10:05:30 pm
With the exception of the ending of Napoleon Dynamite I concur.

Hopefully, he will be on a track day with several of his sports cars, showing Robbie Williams a good time. I can't see them inviting Sir Cliff and Bono, but you never know.

JK pulls into the pit lane, having a paddy cos a tyre rubbed the side of his car on a dodgy corner. Williams sees this, follows cos he's a bit nervous. JK in the middle of the lane - Williams swerves like mad to avoid, cos he's inexperienced, doing 90 down the pitlane. Tyrewall impact, shrapnel, burning petrol....

I'm loving angels instead  :alky:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: dave on September 11, 2006, 10:35:14 pm
Set phasers to Kill!




Jamiroquai 


Singled handedly responsible for turning Britain from a sceptr'd to a septic isle.  Someone should mow him down.  And soon.  How can someone shoot Westwood and not Jamwhatever is beyond me.

firstly jamiroquai isn't a person, its a group. its a common misconception, a bit like people who refer to a monster as "frankenstein".

it does seem that these days jay kay is a bit of a weapon. and the last 2 albums or whatever were shit. However the first 2 albums were brilliant, emergency and space cowboy. Have you listened to these? they are blinding. And the 3rd album traveling without moving although slightly less good as an entire album has got some amazing singles. For example virtual insanity is reet bo, and has a bonus of a well jackson video. you can't knock these earlier works before he dissappeared up his own arse.  And he should be rightfully credited with an admirable dedication to adidas shoes. you can't knock a good pair of campus.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 12, 2006, 07:37:44 am
I reckon I've heard JK's entire output having been driven around by Katz the last decade.  I hate it ALL without exception. 

I don't believe you can separate the music from the maker - they are one and the same - to my mind.  By this logic, the music Jamwhatever makes is every bit the foppish, frill-filled furry hatted cunt as JK is himself personally.

The gob on him!  I loved it when he got nutted in the face by that half-wit photographer (you know the scene).  Shouting fuck this, cunt that, mowta this, mowta that, in hideous poorly pronounced Londonese.  Remeber CNN (is it CNN?) with their Young, Talentless & White anti-JK song - loved it.   

Piffle.  Common denominator sub-jazz boogie-piffle with bells & whistles.  Music for those impressed by bells & whistles.

I love this thread.



Rack 'em up!


Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 12, 2006, 09:00:40 am
Sorry but I can't resist another pop @ JK...


Jay Kay:  A Morris dancer for the modern age.  ;)  Skiddely dap a doo wop a do-do-do-do-dooo a jap-jap a doo woo diddley-dow-wow....  Hmmm...  Profundity incarnate!


(Taste: there's no accounting for it.  We're all right & everyone's wrong.  Or as Dawes once said:  I'm gonna stop offering my opinions in future!  Everyone's but mine is wrong!)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 12, 2006, 10:13:49 am


Jamiroquai 



Time for the Jamiroquai Joke: Sony signed Jamiroquai on a 7 album deal.

Unfortunately they failed to specify it must be 7 DIFFERENT Albums.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Johnny Brown on September 12, 2006, 09:39:43 pm
Quote
firstly jamiroquai isn't a person, its a group. its a common misconception, a bit like people who refer to a monster as "frankenstein".

or a PA as a Tannoy?

The man's a cunt, his music has been awful from start to finish, and I'd be very suprised, nay shocked, if during that time he hasn't replaced the entire line-up. Its not a band, just a row of session musicians paid for so he can order them about.

I can't stand Faithless either. Or Massive attack. Most of the early stuff was just Horace Andy barely even remixed.

Whilst I'm on a roll, the B-52s' 'Rock lobster' somehow made it onto the radio the other day. The only record ever made worse than 'Loveshack'. I was kind of glued to listening, trying to comprehend how music that bad can even exist.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on September 12, 2006, 10:03:33 pm
faithless. spare me. i can't get no fucking sleep. try counting sheep.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on September 12, 2006, 11:19:10 pm
Has anyone mentioned Offspring? Christ I hated that band. I was once forced to go to one of their sorry gigs, just so that I could see the excellent Quicksand who played a blinding support set, but were ignored by the legions of muppets who instead had come to hear incredibly annoying tosh such as Keep em separated. I skulked around the bar area cursing the injustice of it all and the crowd went wild. I felt like the only atheist at a christian festival - pure hell.

 
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Yossarian on September 12, 2006, 11:49:50 pm
ha ha! that reminds me of a friend who (god bless) went to see the chilli peppers last year.  chicks on speed were playing as a warm up.  the RHCP fans didn't think very much of them, and made that quite obvious.

eventually the chicks gave up. the bandana'ed masses had had enough. so what did the chief chick say?


"why don't you all fuck off back to croydon"

just like mastercard, priceless...


so, i am nominating kanye west.  he hasn't stood the test of time.  2 or 3 tunes worth repeated playing. mountains of guff. despite the posturing there's not a lot there. and jay z is streets ahead.  i'll get my coat...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: dave on September 12, 2006, 11:54:24 pm
do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Yossarian on September 12, 2006, 11:59:23 pm
ok, i have just spent 2 days in belgium. i may have been affected in some way. as for my mother - it's a long story...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: superfurrymonkey on September 13, 2006, 09:50:09 pm
Red Hot Chili Peppers's :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 15, 2006, 08:06:24 am

the B-52s' 'Rock lobster'

The one song that causes Tourette's outbursts from my girlfriend. Amazing that someone can direct so much hatred towards a single song.

I react similarly to;

Come on Eileen
Whole of the Moon
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 15, 2006, 08:26:25 am
Come On?  I'd rather Crap on Eileen.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 15, 2006, 09:56:06 am
hmm,

mister whippee

salvador dali

jackson pollock

such a choice
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 15, 2006, 10:03:54 am
mister whippee

I'm rather partial to a 99...

Salvador Dali

Technically brilliant yet suffering from the curse of symbolism: why hide behind symbols?

Jackson Pollock

Willem De Kooning he ain't.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 15, 2006, 10:07:54 am
i was referring to styles of poo-poo

but thanks for your analysis

let's do some rorschach samples..
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on September 15, 2006, 10:13:02 am
Too Many DJs - Some joker inflicted this attrocity on me on the way back from font last time. Within minutes my hair had fallen out, I was haemorrhaging from every orifice and my eyes had exploded! This is beyond bad, this is worse than double AIDS, it's Jive Bunny for the braindead
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on September 15, 2006, 10:28:26 am
Too Many DJs - Some joker inflicted this attrocity on me on the way back from font last time. Within minutes my hair had fallen out, I was haemorrhaging from every orifice and my eyes had exploded! This is beyond bad, this is worse than double AIDS, it's Jive Bunny for the braindead

 :lol:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 15, 2006, 10:29:50 am
Sharpen yer knives!



The Beastie Boys.  (I mean I like Cookie Puss and Nathaniel Hornblower as much as the next man) but I think they are held in far too high a regard.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 15, 2006, 10:35:56 am

Technically brilliant yet suffering from the curse of symbolism: why hide behind symbols?


Because they are part of your drumkit?  :lol: :-\
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 15, 2006, 12:42:50 pm
beastie boys!, beastie fucking boys!

you'll be having a pop at eric b and rakim next!

when will this madness end!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 15, 2006, 04:34:25 pm
Too Many DJs - Some joker inflicted this attrocity on me on the way back from font last time. Within minutes my hair had fallen out, I was haemorrhaging from every orifice and my eyes had exploded! This is beyond bad, this is worse than double AIDS, it's Jive Bunny for the braindead

 :lol:

I'll nominate Osymyso in a similar vein. WHY? :wall:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: AndyR on September 15, 2006, 05:15:32 pm
Have UB40 been mentioned yet - if not, why?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on September 15, 2006, 06:47:42 pm
Agree about UB40 - Red, red wine...oh fuck off!!!

I'm not having the Beastie Boys put down though. Ill Communication is a generational classic.

Paul, you're like some trigger happy, drunk toff on a pheasant shoot: anything moves, blast the fucker! You can't shoot all the baby rabbits, some of dem is cool.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 15, 2006, 07:42:43 pm
(Shrugs & reloads)


You can't stop me being me!   [Gives you the finger and blows raspberry face!]  Who else is gonna do it if I don't?

PS - Lovin' your analogy Si!  Get Orf mai land! 

Here's wee Ramses shortly before I butt-fucked him with my Holland & Holland:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/cute_bunny.jpg)

EDIT - Drunk?  I'm fuckin' hangin' and it's not 9 yet!



Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 15, 2006, 08:00:11 pm
What about this cocksucker then?  You gotta give me this one, shirley?!

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/Dhirst.jpg)


Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 16, 2006, 02:01:29 pm
Pete Doherty / Babyshambles.

Undeniable.
Unchallengeable.
& 100% unacceptable.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on September 16, 2006, 02:20:32 pm
Pete Doherty / Babyshambles.

Undeniable.
Unchallengeable.
& 100% unacceptable.
:agree:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 16, 2006, 11:27:49 pm
I hate these cunts so much I won't utter their name.  If you don't know who they are - I envy you.

(http://x6a.xanga.com/e47b0b7b1973228199472/b19801928.jpg)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Johnny Brown on September 17, 2006, 12:23:27 pm
I don't know who they are.

UB40's early stuff was actually really good and enjoyed widespread critical acclaim even in Jamaica. Sadly they lost their way too soon when they realised they could make loads of cash doing identicovers of reggae hits that didn't get airplay when a black guy sang them.

I like Pollack too. Mural, Number 5 and Lavender Mist: Number 1- I don't see how you can criticise these. They are still captivating and fresh sixty years later
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 17, 2006, 12:27:52 pm

Yeah, I agree on early UB40 - things like One In Ten, etc.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 17, 2006, 03:23:25 pm
I like one in ten also - it really is a very good song from troubled times.

Pollack?  Personally I rate him (higher than Soapy does anyways).  But for me, from those days it has to be Willem De Kooning.  Saw ace do @ the Tate few years back that rocked.  I was gonna bull some there about his views on women but I can't be arsed - decide for yourself.

Here's some of his work:

Woman (1945-50)
(http://radio.weblogs.com/0107946/images/De%20Kooning.jpg)

Woman (undated)
(http://www.antiqvaria.com/cuadros/Récords2/085%20Kooning.jpg)

And this (can't be shizzed to search for the name & don't know it off the top of my head) but like it lots:

(http://academics.uww.edu/wota/Allsen/deKooning.jpg)

And this - from much later in life suffering a heavy dose of Alzheimers':
(http://www.thecityreview.com/f99scont5.gif)

This is from a guy I know in Norfolk, David Kenyon.  She is untitled (though I call it Heat).

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/Heat002.jpg)

Similar, non?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: a dense loner on September 17, 2006, 05:09:41 pm
i like faithless and i like offspring :furious:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on September 17, 2006, 10:10:17 pm
don't know if this has been done already but i'm pretty close to disliking jose gonzalez. sure, heartbeats is 'nice' but i'm beginning to tire of him singing through a cushion. and it has evidently been produced by someone. or has it? has it even been produced? i ask you.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 18, 2006, 07:57:47 am
UB40's early stuff was actually really good and enjoyed widespread critical acclaim even in Jamaica. Sadly they lost their way too soon when they realised they could make loads of cash doing identicovers of reggae hits that didn't get airplay when a black guy sang them.

 :agree:

Some excellent early stuff (present arms, UB44 etc) but it was when they got bored of writing songs and started doing crap cover versions (labour of love 1,2,3) they went to hell in a handcart.

Also candidates for the most stoned I have ever got at a gig; Pretoria Rugby Stadium, surrounded by what felt like the entire population of the surround townships, all furiously rolling joints and passing them around.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 18, 2006, 08:57:48 am
Metallica.   Why?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on September 18, 2006, 09:15:53 am
don't know if this has been done already but i'm pretty close to disliking jose gonzalez. sure, heartbeats is 'nice' ....


The original electro version by The Knife is much better I reckon.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on September 18, 2006, 09:18:24 am
i like faithless and i like offspring :furious:
But you don't like Squamish. Says it all really.... ;)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cofe on September 18, 2006, 09:36:33 am
don't know if this has been done already but i'm pretty close to disliking jose gonzalez. sure, heartbeats is 'nice' ....


The original electro version by The Knife is much better I reckon.

saving grace.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on September 18, 2006, 09:52:39 am
Metallica.   Why?

You forget what a breath of fresh air Metallica where when Kill 'em All first came out - overnight they made Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison etc. look like the pantomime acts we all knew they were and any metal from Britain (particularly Iron f*cking Maiden) sound dated and ridiculous.

Kliff Burton was a f*cking wad - they went downhill rapidly when he passed away.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 18, 2006, 10:08:09 am
Not at all.  I own and enjoy that record & always considered it a very interesting take on metal.  Same Master of Puppets.  Everything else.  So Meh!  Lars Ulrich you truly are a terrbile (EDIT: great typo) terrible drummer.  (I kinda feel the same about Ministry.)

Has anyone seen a recent DVD about the recording of a recent record with Bob Rock?  I'm assured it's fuckin' hilarious.

(Remember:  Overrated does not negate the possiblity of any band actually doing any great work at all in their artist careers.  It's the overrated bit we are after.) 

(All UK metal poo?  Napalm Death?  Loved 'em!   Extreme Noise Terror?  Loved 'em.  Yes I know they were more than just metal.)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 18, 2006, 10:33:11 am
PS The GF's fave band are the Beastie Boys, and I got a slap for what i wrote.  She took it on herself to re-educate me and I must concede, Ill Communication ain't half bad.  I remembered it being poorer.  To The 5 Boroughs is poor though:  2 good tracks from 15 is a naff ratio.

She also agrees that it is a generational classic.

Houdini eat shit.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 18, 2006, 10:56:44 am
no, just drink your own wee
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 18, 2006, 10:59:46 am
And me shit!  (Dissolving a little pellet under the tongue is fantastic for halitosis and straightening hair.) Don't jew-out on me soaps...   My body is a temple.   A small temple (perhaps a chapel), but a temple nevertheless.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 18, 2006, 11:16:37 am

Saltbeef has nominated them before, but since they're number one I feel the cuntish Scissor Sisters deserve a mention.

I hate that blokes crappy falsetto voice, and they deserve to die for covering Floyd badly.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on September 18, 2006, 11:43:34 am
Ahem, I think you'll find that I was the original SS hater
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 18, 2006, 11:44:19 am

Ah, a failing of the search engine...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bonjoy on September 18, 2006, 11:46:32 am
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Scissor Sisters _ Sounds like the bastard son of an unholy union involving Robbie Williams, Elton John and the Bee Gees.
Thankyou :ang:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 18, 2006, 11:48:48 am
Quote
Sounds like the bastard son of an unholy union involving Robbie Williams, Elton John and the Bee Gees

You said it much better than me :lol:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 18, 2006, 12:10:54 pm
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Sounds like the bastard son of an unholy union involving Robbie Williams, Elton John and the Bee Gees

You said it much better than me :lol:

Either way, they are utter utter pish. I also detest people who profess to like them who whould know better, and imply that they like them ironically, when in fact they have shit taste and actually like them.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 18, 2006, 12:28:39 pm
waddya sayin, sachris?? :'(

♪ don't feel like dancin', dancin' ♪

:dance1:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 18, 2006, 12:50:42 pm
waddya sayin, sachris?? :'(

♪ don't feel like dancin', dancin' ♪

:dance1:

Every time I hear that song I feel more like kicking.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on September 19, 2006, 08:33:38 am
Will Smith (DIE! FUCKA DIE!) Urgh! Yeahh!  Urg!  Yeaahh!  Ad infinitum.


Billy Talent.   Offensive super-compressed piffle-widge.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: lorentz on September 21, 2006, 09:02:07 am
:agree:

And while on the subject of shite music stars who're also bad actors...

J-Lo.

Why-o-why-o-why-Lo?

She aint even that fine to look at either. I just don't get it...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 21, 2006, 11:04:13 am

I liked Will Smith in Men in Black.

J-Lo is a better actress than she is singer, which isn't saying a great deal. I think she's stunning but I hate that diva attitude.

And anyway, she deserves eternal damnation for "I'm still Jenny from the block".
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on September 21, 2006, 11:54:15 am
Jennifer Lopez is a very attractive lady - I admit her music is gash, and so are probably most of her films, but I did enjoy Out of Sight: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120780/
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: BenF on September 21, 2006, 02:40:48 pm
And anyway, she deserves eternal damnation for "I'm still Jenny from the block".

Right on.  I'm sure as she passes by in her f*ck off stretched Humvee or whatever, on her way to some f*ckwit filled celebrity stupid party or exclusive island resort, she's utterly the same old Jenny from the Block.  If she ever was from a "block".  I dunno much about her, but I doubt somewhat that she's actually made it good from poor roots.

However, the CassetteBoy (I think) cover/rip off of Jenny from the Block is splendid though.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: soapy on September 21, 2006, 05:55:16 pm
ARF!

forgot about skifflin' jenny, see if this link (http://www.bolt.com/humanskeleton/audio/917540?cn=STREAM_humanskeleton_audio_large_PAGE1) works
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on September 21, 2006, 11:23:24 pm
However, the CassetteBoy (I think) cover/rip off of Jenny from the Block is splendid though.

MC Pitman (http://www.pitmanworld.com/) had a good rib at her on his classic "It takes a nation of tossers" album too.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: BenF on September 22, 2006, 08:26:26 am
MC Pitman (http://www.pitmanworld.com/) had a good rib at her on his classic "It takes a nation of tossers" album too.

Aaahhh, MC Pitman. ::)  I think I always liked the idea more than the end product.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on June 28, 2008, 10:54:16 am

I've dragged this topic out of retirement to include the nonsense that is/are Ting Tings. Who actually buys this shit? 
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jed on June 28, 2008, 11:53:16 am

I totally agree with the previous posts about U2, what a bag of wank (the Edge, I think not)

Also I dislike the Editors, they sound like a shit rip off of joy division.
 
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on June 28, 2008, 12:07:11 pm

I've dragged this topic out of retirement to include the nonsense that is/are Ting Tings. Who actually buys this shit? 

Teenage girls? It is toss indeed.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2008, 12:08:14 pm
Richie Hawtin.

Audion.

Magda.

Villalobos.

Vaeth.

Kings of Leon.


 :)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jern on June 28, 2008, 12:11:06 pm
I don't if any one actually rates him but I'll say it anyway.....Jack fucking Johnson. Please fuck off with our insipid shite. Now.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 28, 2008, 02:27:30 pm
Seconded. I'm a committed environmentalist but the sound of him singing 'reduce, reuse, recycle' makes me want to run down the road kicking bins over.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: butters on June 28, 2008, 02:50:19 pm
Thirded on JJ - it's OK music at best but it is the fact that he goes on and on ad infintum about environmental issues that seems to be his selling point to those who deify him so much - the music should come first people and don't forget it.

Doesn't help that it seems to be relatively easy to pick up a guitar and play along either for those with a minimum of talent which is probably another reason why I hate him so much after having to listen to his interminably crap music made worse by talentless fools.

bluebrad
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jed on June 28, 2008, 04:58:35 pm
Kings of Leon

Granted they have gone down hill recently, But they have made some good stuff.

They should of stuck with the white trash bible belt look they had going on early days, this is obviously the missing link
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: saltbeef on June 28, 2008, 05:03:32 pm
said before but i keep hearing their new single which is FUCKING SHIT. (like all their god awful whining shit)
coldplay. so fucking bad, especially with their new fucking "drummer boy"image. god they're cunts.
again been said before. babyshambles, doherty-cock.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Moo on June 28, 2008, 07:01:31 pm
I saw kings of leon live at leeds festival they rocked and because of the times is a brilliant album i'm standing firm on this

if jennifer lopez died i wouldnt notice tbh but if noel edmunds died i get on my spaceship and leave earth
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jern on June 30, 2008, 09:17:59 am
Seconded. I'm a committed environmentalist but the sound of him singing 'reduce, reuse, recycle' makes me want to run down the road kicking bins over.

Ha, ha! Quite. I personally went and smashed the pipes on the backs of a shitload of old fridges I'd saved specially for this purpose.

In a similar vein I accidently ended up seeing Newton Faulkner last year. Only gig I've ever walked out of - UTTER UTTER COCK.

Has anyone mentioned Coldplay, they're poo.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 30, 2008, 09:34:52 am
When ever I see "overrated" I think "White Stripes".

I've mentioned this pair of twats before.......

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8221.msg125424.html#msg125424 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8221.msg125424.html#msg125424)

 :thumbsdown:

Agree re Jack Johnson too. How many times can you get away with releasing the same record?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: dave on June 30, 2008, 10:00:33 am
How many times can you get away with releasing the same record?

ask Status Quo.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: richdraws on June 30, 2008, 10:12:39 am

If you go through the list (nearly) all of the bands despised have produced something that you could enjoy and even the best of underrated artists normally produce some utter shit too. People get entrenched into liking or disliking styles because they are marketed as having something to do with lifestyle or whatnot. But its just tunes. Pick and choose.


But that said; Jarvis Cocker has never produced anything good.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on June 30, 2008, 11:02:03 am
How many times can you get away with releasing the same record?

ask Status Quo.
And Jamiroquai for that matter.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 30, 2008, 11:05:42 am
That fuck awful "band" Scouting For Girls are continuing the tradition. I think they've had three singles out (all played heavily on Radio 1) however it might be five, or one.  :-\
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jed on June 30, 2008, 12:03:26 pm
Quote
But that said; Jarvis Cocker has never produced anything good.

But he did try tell Jacko he wasn't Jesus, Legend!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: cowboyhat on June 30, 2008, 05:26:11 pm
I had an argument with my flat mate last night about the TingTings, he said sincerely 'I thought you'd like them, She looks like the type of girl that you usually go for'

which is probably the one of the rudest things anyone has ever said to me.

Anyway, arrogant idiots. They get sophie muller to direct a video for them, on the shoot DrummerGlassesTwat starts talking about his 'creative vision' and it spirals badly into huffing and dummies thrown. Much money spent, the band reject the video, so the record company have to pay for another one. Which is shit and looks the same as their others.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 30, 2008, 05:39:55 pm
Twats.

Quality comment on one of their clips on youtube "They did listen to your heart didn't they?".
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on July 01, 2008, 09:04:15 am

In a similar vein I accidently ended up seeing Newton Faulkner last year. Only gig I've ever walked out of - UTTER UTTER COCK.


He is a tool. "Handbuilt by Robots". How clever. How fucking hilarious. I would like to see him fistpunched by people.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: BenF on July 01, 2008, 09:31:53 am
How about Coldplay?  Surely they deserve a mention?  Scrapings of a particularly over-rated barrel of shite.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on July 01, 2008, 01:45:52 pm
How about Coldplay?  Surely they deserve a mention?  Scrapings of a particularly over-rated barrel of shite.

They are so shit they have their own thread http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9451.0.html (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9451.0.html)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: BenF on July 01, 2008, 03:13:24 pm
They are so shit they have their own thread

They are so shit they don't deserve a thread.  Let's see how many times we can mention them on this thread alone.


Coldplay are shit by the way.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 02, 2008, 01:03:54 am
Although Coldplay are undoubtedly shit , the idea of planting  a forest to offset the carbon footprint created by making your albums when you could just stop making albums altogether , defeats me ..... But at the top of my list of bands who should have had their hands fed into wood chippers before they were old enough to learn how to play an instrument are Bon fucking Jovi .... Living on a Prayer , that brain dead twat should  be living on a life support machine .....
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 02, 2008, 10:07:25 am
Guns 'n muthafuckin Roses could join em. Peas in a pod.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jern on July 02, 2008, 10:41:39 am
I had to sit waiting for my mate for an hour and half at Cheddar the other night because he got stuck behind fucking Bon Jovi's fucking tour fucking bus. Thank fuck i came down the M5, no poodle haired twats on there I can tell you.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Moo on July 02, 2008, 11:20:23 am
Maroon five may they burn in the eternal fires of hell go i hate them and the sound of the lead singers voice makes me want to peel my own skin off
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jed on July 03, 2008, 12:35:15 pm
Maroon five may they burn in the eternal fires of hell go i hate them and the sound of the lead singers voice makes me want to peel my own skin off

:agree:

Their the audio equivalent of spam!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: magpie on July 03, 2008, 12:49:21 pm
I can't be the only one who wants to cave Amy Whinehouse's face in, can I?  >:(
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on July 03, 2008, 01:01:44 pm
Think she's doing a good enough job herself.  :alky:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on July 03, 2008, 07:34:36 pm

I like Ms Winehouse's first album, and the Tears Dry... from the recent one. She's meant to be awesome live if she's sober.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on July 03, 2008, 10:22:29 pm
So not awesome live then.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: ian h on July 03, 2008, 11:16:30 pm
agree with bubba on the last one
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 06, 2008, 12:23:34 am
Amy Winehouse  ain't over-rated .... Christ can that girl sing ....
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Andy F on July 06, 2008, 10:37:36 am
Nirvana. Dull, turgid and boring.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on July 22, 2008, 12:19:14 pm
Not sure if they've had a mention yet but Lost Prophets need to go on this list. Truly awful faux rock twats who seem to have fooled themselves and others into thinking that they make proper music instead of vacuous, formulaic, shite, pop-rock sung in an unconvincing Mid-Atlantic accent. 

:furious:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on July 30, 2008, 02:59:19 pm
Vampire Weekend too. Toss band. Toss name.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on July 31, 2008, 03:16:17 pm

I liked the Vampire Weekend single they had out but the rest of the album is disappointing.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Plattsy on August 01, 2008, 09:08:38 am
The Ting Tings - No explanation needed. If you've heard them you know.
Razorlight - Liked them at first and now realise they're shit. Just I never bought an album.
Mark Ronson - Mix and match cover band/artist (whatever he/they are).
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 01, 2008, 09:45:38 am
Yes, The Ting Tings (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3857.msg153861.html#msg153861) are wank. That bird is so irritating and they certainly seem to have a massively inflated view of their own (lack of) talent.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Bubba on August 01, 2008, 10:04:34 am

The problem with the Ting Ting is that the singer can't sing so she just shouts instead. I find it really grating. At least they're doing their own material I suppose, which is better than the endless blandness pushed out by the likes of Simon Cowell.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Munkii on August 14, 2008, 06:40:31 pm
razorlight

the ting tingz

50 cent

loads of others i'll be back to post.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Monolith on August 14, 2008, 09:27:17 pm
I can't be jacked searching through 15 pages but I trust that Johnny Cash is in here. Jesus Christ I despise that man.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: butters on August 15, 2008, 07:48:22 am
I can't be jacked searching through 15 pages but I trust that Johnny Cash is in here. Jesus Christ I despise that man.

You are nominating Johnny Cash!!  :o

May I be the first to say that you are a man with no soul...

bluebrad
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Plattsy on August 15, 2008, 08:10:51 am
I can't be jacked searching through 15 pages but I trust that Johnny Cash is in here. Jesus Christ I despise that man.

Depising is one thing but this is a thread about overated music artists and Johnny Cash isn't overated. FACT!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: (woz) on August 15, 2008, 10:36:27 am
You and bluebrad obviously rate him as an artist, and his songs were godawful. Sounds very much like overrated to me. FACT. ;)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Plattsy on August 15, 2008, 10:53:12 am
Two for, two against. This one is tight.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on August 15, 2008, 12:57:50 pm
If it's goign to go to a vote, I would label him Godlike Genius.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Plattsy on August 15, 2008, 02:35:24 pm
Ha! Best of 5. Johnny Cash isn't overrated wins 3-2. In your face Monolith and (woz)  ;)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jern on August 15, 2008, 03:41:38 pm
Another vote for Cash. 4-2. Godlike genius is find by me.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: marty on August 15, 2008, 04:07:02 pm
Definitely another vote for cash. American sessions IV being a favourite. (probably does nothing for the die-hard cash fans)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: andy_e on August 15, 2008, 04:42:26 pm
Nirvana. Dull, turgid and boring.

Good man!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: GCW on August 15, 2008, 04:44:52 pm
I think Nirvana did some excellent tunes, but the more commercial stuff was poor.  I think Kurt was a musical genius initially, but later on he lost his head.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: magpie on August 15, 2008, 04:46:34 pm
You and bluebrad obviously rate him as an artist, and his songs were godawful. Sounds very much like overrated to me. FACT. ;)
He is kind of whiney.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: jern on August 15, 2008, 05:00:59 pm
Whiney? Johnny Cash?  ??? Bob Dylan, maybe, but not Johnny Cash.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: GCW on August 15, 2008, 05:08:31 pm
I like Cash.
Dylan can't sing a great tune, but his music isn't about that.  It's storytelling, and the whiny voice and harmonica just make it!!  (I don't really like his electric stuff though).
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: mini on August 15, 2008, 05:35:17 pm
Another vote for Cash from me.

By definition I would never class him in an 'over-rated' category, far too underground in the world of pop culture until his death in the not too distant past. Bands like Codplay and Keane can be over-rated due to excessive air-time, and they play pap tunes!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Monolith on August 15, 2008, 09:48:51 pm
Surely there must be some more anti-Cashers!? woz, our backs are to the wall here!!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: andy_e on August 15, 2008, 09:54:57 pm
i'll join the anti-cash-crowd. can we call ourselves the credit card bunch?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: GCW on August 15, 2008, 09:59:52 pm
Awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxU3gXy1Qq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxU3gXy1Qq8)

Not exactly mainstream either.
And, Will Hunt would  ;)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: grumpycrumpy on August 16, 2008, 12:52:50 pm
Johnny Cash over-rated , how dare you even hold that thought in your pea -brain you cloth-eared pettifogging creampuff ......
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 18, 2008, 09:25:04 am
Cash was a genius. I can't believe this is even being debated and I'm not even a big fan.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jim on August 18, 2008, 11:38:18 am
WTF is going on here. You lot need to take a long hard listen to american IV and come back to comment again
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Zods Beard on August 18, 2008, 02:16:18 pm
People who think Johnny Cash is overrated are cloth eared t**ts who don't deserve to own Hi-fi equipment.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Monolith on August 18, 2008, 04:15:48 pm
Let's not forget it's a democratic debate eh!
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: robertostallioni on August 18, 2008, 04:51:15 pm
Whats not to love
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y2iv_E-Fn9E&hl=en (http://www.youtube.com/v/Y2iv_E-Fn9E&hl=en)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Monolith on August 18, 2008, 09:35:26 pm
Unrelated roberto, but nice Pastorius quote. One of my favourite musicians of all time (and quotes too).
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on August 20, 2008, 09:08:16 am
I read this on t'news this morning and p*ssed myself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7569838.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7569838.stm)

One OK song and association with a massive band does not a career make.  Just f*ck off and stop whining you daft c*nt.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on August 20, 2008, 10:30:26 am
Quote
I feel like a sore thumb in a piranha pool in this industry

WTF?

Good riddance. You can probably retire anyway if you weren't stupid and blew all your cash.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 20, 2008, 10:40:59 am
Ha ha ha. What a cock.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: butters on August 20, 2008, 11:14:35 am
Ha ha ha. What a cock.

"It's all done for profit and not for any degree of musical feeling or sentiment."

Well hello - it must have hurt a lot when those rose tinted glasses were torn from your unsuspecting eyes by the sadists that run the music industry to reveal the hideous truth!!

You are just another chancer who wanted to get famous thinking that it would be some life changing experience, discovered that you are owned as comprehensively as the cheapest crack whore in town and then had a huge prima donna hissy fit about it.

As you said Jasper - what a cock!! :greed:

bluebrad
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 20, 2008, 12:30:42 pm
 :lol:

And all coming out of the mouth of the worst "LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!"  offender in Sheffield. The irony.  :wank:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: underground on August 20, 2008, 01:08:22 pm
:lol:

And all coming out of the mouth of the worst "LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!"  offender in Sheffield. The irony.  :wank:

who, bluebrad?  ;)

I think it's cool to like them though, the number of people I've heard going on and on and me wondering what all the fuss was about. I always thought 'the pop industry' was just what it says - an industry. Making good music is part of it, and selling the records is the other. Why bother doing gigs or releasing albums then, McClure, you daft cnut? I suppose he'll be returning the royalties and gig fees and all that the '50 something blokes who went to private school' will have assisted in earning?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Richie Crouch on August 24, 2008, 01:34:56 am
Kept forgetting to post another vote for Cash being overrated!  :yawn:

Theres only so many times in a day you can put up with 'ring of fire' on the speakers in work, before it creates loathing.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on September 15, 2008, 09:54:33 am
I think he may have done more than one song?

Listen to anything too many times and it will grate.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Munkii on September 15, 2008, 07:41:39 pm
the kaiser chiefs

and ffs girls aloud are crap! :wall:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on September 17, 2008, 08:52:48 am
I read this on t'news this morning and p*ssed myself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7569838.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7569838.stm)

One OK song and association with a massive band does not a career make.  Just f*ck off and stop whining you daft c*nt.



Er........ Wanker! (http://www.nme.com/news/Reverend-and-the-makers/39738)  :wank:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2009, 01:06:14 pm
Dizzee Rascal. Would love to punch his stupid grin in.

Some of the worst rhymes out there.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 21, 2009, 02:54:04 pm
As Chris said, this thread could do with reviving and I'll get the ball rolling with this discussion about Little Boots from here (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,4585.msg215516.html#new):

Quote from: Obi-Wan is lost...
she can sing

Quote from: Will Hunt
I'm afraid I must contest this point. Not that good!


Quote from: Jaspersharpe
I don't get the hype at all. She was on Radio 1 the other day and her voice is like a very poor, weak imitation of Sarah Cracknell's. Plus that "Remedy" song is the sort of vapid Europop that if done by Cascada (or perhaps The Venga Boys) would be ignored or ridiculed by the same smug cunts in the music press who are lauding her as the next big thing. It all seems a bit emperor's new clothes to me especially when there is a lot of genuine female musical talent about at the moment (Florence, Ladyhawke, Bat For Lashes etc).

Seems a nice enough girl though.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2009, 02:57:00 pm
While we are at it, can I bung Black Eyed Peas in? Stupid band name, stupid names of all members, and shit trite overrated songs. With autotune / crap vocoder, still can't discern one from another. And they have a stupid cult following among stupid people.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on August 21, 2009, 03:00:35 pm
They are total dogshit but are they actually rated by anyone other than 13 year old chavs? Apologies in advance to Adam Lincoln if he's a fan.
 ;)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Dr T on August 21, 2009, 03:05:16 pm
this man would like them...
(http://gighit.com/media/gallery/2009/Feb/25/dappy_300x300_crop_le.jpg)
him and Mr Lincoln  ;D
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: dave on August 21, 2009, 03:10:13 pm
is that r-man?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on August 21, 2009, 05:58:16 pm
I was going to write off anyone who's been to stage school but I quite like Amy Winehouse.
:-\
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: philo on August 21, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
can we also shuv nelly furtado in there for this shockingly bad new song with rapper "flo rider" awful


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-EOw8da0xA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-EOw8da0xA)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2009, 10:50:34 pm
Yes, heard it the other day and thought I recognise that voice, but the singing is pretty shit
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: DaveC on August 21, 2009, 10:57:22 pm
Yes, het.ard ot the other day and thought I recognise that voice, but the singing is pretty shi

Are you OK there Chris? Looks like somebody shot you half-way through typi...


PS  "het.ard ot"   :shrug:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on August 21, 2009, 11:10:16 pm
now fixed.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Houdini on August 25, 2009, 01:15:47 pm
Who the fuck is this Lady Gaga tramp?



Crumbs, pop is dire the now.


Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Munkii on August 25, 2009, 06:04:06 pm
dizzy rascal, i just don't get it, what is so good about him?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: tomtom on August 25, 2009, 06:29:21 pm
Who the fuck is this Lady Gaga tramp?

Crumbs, pop is dire the now.

:agree: Theres fuck all interesting out there at the moment...
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Falling Down on August 25, 2009, 07:26:41 pm
dizzy rascal, i just don't get it, what is so good about him?

Me and the Mrs saw Dizzee at Wakestock and he/his DJ and partner were brilliant
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Fultonius on August 25, 2009, 08:07:03 pm
dizzy rascal, i just don't get it, what is so good about him?

Me and the Mrs saw Dizzee at Wakestock and he/his DJ and partner were brilliant

Are you sure? What were you smoking?  :alky:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on January 26, 2011, 01:05:28 pm
Chipmunk / Tiny Temper / Nero / Dr Green / Taio Cruz / Tinchy Strider / all these cunts who I can't really tell apart.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: rginns on January 26, 2011, 01:11:35 pm
The Killers - bag of generic Americo-cock-wank if you ask me. Whiney twats. Not worth the time of day.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Fultonius on January 26, 2011, 01:36:51 pm
The Killers - bag of generic Americo-cock-wank if you ask me. Whiney twats. Not worth the time of day.

Do you think a bit of cmputer code could be used to come up with similar lyrics to Killers pish?
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: mark s on January 27, 2011, 07:37:58 am
Don't know if been said before but I imagine so,but muse.can't fucking stand them.as said a little higher-all these so called urban british acts (roots manuva excluded)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Grubes on January 27, 2011, 08:04:47 am
but muse.can't fucking stand them.

I liked Showbiz and origin of symmetry but since then they seem to of crawled up there own arse.

Can I suggest fucking coldplay? Hate them
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on January 27, 2011, 08:38:51 am

Can I suggest fucking coldplay? Hate them

That recent Muse album is a pile of overindulgent wank.

As for cold play...

From Ben F a few pages back...

Quote
Let's see how many times we can mention them on this thread alone.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: tomtom on January 27, 2011, 08:43:18 am
Franz Ferdinand.

Manufactured intellectual indie wanksters... UK's version of the Killers...

All very calculated and affected. Saw them live once - which was an uberscripted unspontaneity fest.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 28, 2011, 02:54:58 pm
They're totally fucking shit and they think theyr'e amazing. Cunts. Having not heard anything about them for ages I was hoping they'd split up or died or something but no, they're working on a new album and designing £1200 jumpers for Pringle (http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?H=Franz-Ferdinand-design-fashion-collection&nItemID=38837).

 :wank: :wank:
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Pantontino on January 28, 2011, 03:44:53 pm
Can't remember if I've said this before (possibly on this very thread), but I've never understood why people rave about AC/DC. Just a load of boogie woogie bad metal bollocks. The lyrics are quite funny in an unintentional way though. If you want something powerful there are a hundred bands who would leave AC/DC standing in the blocks.

And then there is Queen - a ridiculous pantomime version of Led Zep who were already quite pantomime anyway.

And last but not least: The Pet Shop Boys - just a weak ersatz version of a truly great band: New Order. Why they are taken seriously at all is beyond me.

oh, thought of some more:

Offspring - I once had the misfortune of seeing these goons live. I'd gone to see the support band Quicksand who were brilliant, but were sadly ignored the crowd who stayed in the bar until the 'main attraction' came on. If I hear one of their songs on the radio I wince. Terrible.

Loads of rubbish landfill indie bands at the moment (Drums/frankie and the heart strings/the vaccines) that are sorely tempting me to turn off 6 Music.

I could go on, but I feel better already getting that lot off my chest.

(agree about Franz Ferdinand/Muse/Killers etc - all of them: awful)
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2011, 04:32:57 pm
Can't remember if I've said this before (possibly on this very thread), but I've never understood why people rave about AC/DC. Just a load of boogie woogie bad metal bollocks. The lyrics are quite funny in an unintentional way though. If you want something powerful there are a hundred bands who would leave AC/DC standing in the blocks.


I'm sure I proposed them back on about page 2, and you agreed. Worth mentioning again though bunch of dicks.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on January 28, 2011, 04:41:19 pm
Well, i thought I did. Either way, shite.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 28, 2011, 04:46:11 pm
Vampire Weekend are totally overrated.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: fried on January 28, 2011, 06:14:33 pm
Pretty much every 'indie' band in the last 20 years. They fall into two camps, the ones that rip off Wire and Gang of Four and the others that rip off the Jesus and Mary Chain/ My Bloody Valentine etc.

They all look the same, have practically the same names and all suck. I can't even be bothered to list all their names.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks AC:DC are crap.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: DaveC on January 28, 2011, 09:21:31 pm
From what I've read on this thread you're all mainly claiming that anybody famous that you don't like is overrated which rather proves this is something of a subjective issue. I'll agree a lot of the bands/artists in here are over-hyped but on the other hand most of them are pop acts and I suspect they wouldn't rate themselves that highly in musical terms anyway. Coldplay & U2 however are deserving of every bit of crap that gets thrown at them! (http://www.shredguitars.com/images/smilies/more/nutkick.gif)


PS I saw the original ACDC with Bon Scott up front when I was 14-15 and I can tell you they were seriously shit-hot in those days - their live version of 'Baby Please Don't Go' is probably still the best live track I have ever heard (along with Midnight Oil's 'Bus to Bondi".) I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for Back in Black after Scott died but other than that? Not much.

Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: fried on February 11, 2011, 04:49:58 pm
Bob Marley

I don't  even dislike him or his music particularly, just the unbelievable reverence that some of his more well known material is given in some places. There even used to be a dub bar in the Spiti valley ( I forget which town) which had painting of all the members of the Marley family (even some that I'm sure don't exist), this bar had one cassette 'Legend' which they played on a continuous loop, a bit like being a first year student in 1984.
Title: Re: Most overrated bands/artists
Post by: SA Chris on March 18, 2011, 10:55:42 am
Am I missing some hidden depths with Arcade Fire? Just seems a bit dull to me. And the lead singer looks like the Kurgen.
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Post by: kilgore1080 on March 18, 2011, 11:42:36 am
Am I missing some hidden depths with Arcade Fire? Just seems a bit dull to me. And the lead singer looks like the Kurgen.

 :agree:

Tried to like them but apart from "Rococo" which seems to be strangely addictive I just can't see what the fuss is about.
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Post by: Pantontino on March 18, 2011, 03:26:20 pm
What about No Cars Go:

Arcade Fire - No Cars Go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83KR_UBWdPI#)

I'd forgive any amount of [alleged] subsequent dullness for a band that can produce a song like that.
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Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 04:09:34 pm
Just discovered this thread and thank the fucking Lord! The misses loves Muse, I fucking hate them, so fucking dramatic and yet so fucking tedious, she even tried to get me to go and see them with her....thank you for allowing me that. And Fanzfernaband shite, utter fucking drivel.

HOWEVER, lads. seriously, steady with the DC comments, they fucking rock, have always rocked and still rock from their core. I mean, we're not talking Bonjovi or Guns and Roses here, at least they live and breath rock, their lyrics aren't meant to be powerful, that kinda misses the point, if you cut them in half it would read 'rock'  :P. (Yes I know we're all entitled in this thread to say whatever and I fully agree that right but the DC, really! :o)

What about all that Slipknot shite, masks and utter shite music, what the fuck is that all about?

And who's that fucker who dresses like a twat and sings like a cunt....erm, looks like he's just stepped out of a London drama class...MIKA that's him. What a total cunt. I ever I was to be tortured just play his shite to me for more than 5 seconds. That's enough for now, I feel much better
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Post by: slackline on March 18, 2011, 04:13:39 pm
And who's that fucker who dresses like a twat and sings like a cunt....erm, looks like he's just stepped out of a London drama class...MIKA that's him. What a total cunt. I ever I was to be tortured just play his shite to me for more than 5 seconds. That's enough for now, I feel much better

You've just captured a large swathe of the popular music demographic there!
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Post by: chris20 on March 18, 2011, 05:18:22 pm
Bob Marley

I don't  even dislike him or his music particularly, just the unbelievable reverence that some of his more well known material is given in some places.

 :agree: albums like catch a fire was the real good stuff, but I would still put Lee scratch perry above Marley in god idol
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Post by: kilgore1080 on March 18, 2011, 06:46:57 pm
And who's that fucker who dresses like a twat and sings like a cunt....erm, looks like he's just stepped out of a London drama class...MIKA that's him. What a total cunt. I ever I was to be tortured just play his shite to me for more than 5 seconds. That's enough for now, I feel much better

You've just captured a large swathe of the popular music demographic there!

Here Here!

But while we're on the subject I've been thinking about it and I may be able to produce a considerably lengthy list but for now can I add Scouting For Girls, anything that's ever won a TV talent show (or even participated in one) and U-fucking-2 to the overrated pile please?
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Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 07:39:37 pm
Gotta agree with the U2 comment, i used to love'em years ago with 'War', 'Live Under a blood red sky' and all those early albums but since those they just make utter worthless toss, and don't even get me started on Bono and Clayton(??) the basist although i've always loved The Edge's little hats and his awesome name :P
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Post by: chummer on March 18, 2011, 07:40:59 pm
in fact U2  define the phase 'sold out' even if Bono did bring world peace with his glasses that try to hide the fact he's an old fucker now
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Post by: underground on March 18, 2011, 09:57:08 pm
in fact U2  define the phase 'sold out' even if Bono did bring world peace with his glasses that try to hide the fact he's an old fucker now

Don't get me fuckin started.. not on U2 mind, although having had an MRI scan with 'All that you can leave behind' on the earphones helped me to hate their recent shite..

What about the Manics? There was a song on radio recently and I was trying to work out if it was Robbie Williams or Mark Owen. Took me a while before I realised it was James Dean Bradfield I was hearing.

Disgusting from the band that brought us Generation Terrorists and The Holy Bible
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Post by: Jaspersharpe on March 19, 2011, 10:47:33 am
Am I missing some hidden depths with Arcade Fire? Just seems a bit dull to me.

WTF?
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Post by: Stubbs on March 19, 2011, 11:52:09 am
Kings of Leon are the modern day U2 equivalent (imo)
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Post by: andy popp on March 19, 2011, 12:10:46 pm
U2 have appeared so many times in this thread now ...


no reason not to nominate them again though.
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Post by: mrjonathanr on March 19, 2011, 01:09:43 pm
PS I saw the original ACDC with Bon Scott up front when I was 14-15 and I can tell you they were seriously shit-hot in those days - their live version of 'Baby Please Don't Go' is probably still the best live track I have ever heard (along with Midnight Oil's 'Bus to Bondi".) I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for Back in Black after Scott died but other than that? Not much.

Sorry to buck the trend but I'm with DaveC on this one about Bon Sott era AC/DC being pretty awesome, although Back in Black is generally counted as the biggest selling album of all time after Thriller I believe (49 vs 50 million copies shifted). Which brings me nicely on to Michael Jackson, most over rated oddball ever. 70s stuff was pretty good at the time, after that - tedious. And I was at school when Thriller came out so I can exactly remember how it sounded at the time. Not very exciting, I can tell you.
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Post by: RAK Punter on March 20, 2011, 06:40:58 am
And who's that fucker who dresses like a twat and sings like a cunt....erm, looks like he's just stepped out of a London drama class...MIKA that's him. What a total cunt. I ever I was to be tortured just play his shite to me for more than 5 seconds. That's enough for now, I feel much better

You've just captured a large swathe of the popular music demographic there!

Here Here!

But while we're on the subject I've been thinking about it and I may be able to produce a considerably lengthy list but for now can I add Scouting For Girls, anything that's ever won a TV talent show (or even participated in one)
:agree:
And what about Bob Dylan; pretty well everything he has produced would be ideal as the music for an assisted suicide advert/promotion.
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Post by: Duma on March 20, 2011, 06:47:49 am
no.
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Post by: DaveC on March 20, 2011, 10:50:13 am


And what about Bob Dylan; pretty well everything he has produced would be ideal as the music for an assisted suicide advert/promotion.
:worms:


Well if Dylan's name is allowed in here then there's plenty of room for Leonard Cohen! Great songwriter but somebody should remove his vocal chords so he can't inflict his miserable dirge-like delivery on the rest of us! Music to kill yourself to IMO.
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Post by: chris20 on March 20, 2011, 12:30:57 pm


And what about Bob Dylan; pretty well everything he has produced would be ideal as the music for an assisted suicide advert/promotion.
:worms:


Well if Dylan's name is allowed in here then there's plenty of room for Leonard Cohen! Great songwriter but somebody should remove his vocal chords so he can't inflict his miserable dirge-like delivery on the rest of us! Music to kill yourself to IMO.


Completely disagree, Desire album isn’t the most upbeat album but I don’t think anyone else could do it as good as Dylan IMO.  Nina Simone does some great covers of Dylan’s stuff but I still don’t think they are as good as Dylan’s originals.  I agree that some of the stuff he has done recently has not been to my liking but his early stuff is genius
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Post by: Jaspersharpe on March 21, 2011, 12:52:44 pm
I agree that some of the stuff he has done recently has not been to my liking but his early stuff is genius

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/stills/dylan_xmas_gawker.flv.jpg)

 ;)
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Post by: chris20 on March 21, 2011, 01:35:46 pm
I agree that some of the stuff he has done recently has not been to my liking but his early stuff is genius

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/stills/dylan_xmas_gawker.flv.jpg)

 ;)

It would be a tough call whether it would be worse to have that playing in santa's grotto or Gary Glitter playing santa
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Post by: Mike Tyson on July 23, 2011, 10:08:38 pm
No more Whinehouse. Never liked her music, or public image, but death is a little saddening.
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Post by: Falling Down on July 23, 2011, 11:00:02 pm
A 27 yr old girl has died today. Someone's daughter, someone's friend and a Grammy award winning artist.  Shame on you.  Wrong post, wrong thread, wrong all round Golt.
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Post by: Baron on July 23, 2011, 11:33:40 pm
So wrong golt. RIP Amy.
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Post by: underground on July 24, 2011, 01:53:09 am
Golt, what a nasty piece of shit thing to say. A family lost their daughter today, and millions of people lost a prodigious talent, a human being lest you forget, who had tragically got herself down a destructive path of addiction. I hope it never happens to anyone you do care about.
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Post by: Mike Tyson on July 24, 2011, 11:20:28 am
I did not mean to offend anyone with what I wrote, a very bad choice of words on my behalf.  :sorry: obviously the death of anyone is terrible, I was attempting to say although I didn't care for her, I was saddened to hear what happened. I didn't do a good job of conveying that message, and I apologise again.
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Post by: SA Chris on July 24, 2011, 12:32:01 pm
I thought your message was crystal clear and honest, just interpreted in the worst light.
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Post by: Falling Down on July 24, 2011, 02:45:32 pm
 :guilty:  :kiss2:
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Post by: underground on July 24, 2011, 08:18:37 pm
:guilty:  :kiss2:
me too :-[  :sorry:
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