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the shizzle => news => Topic started by: unclesomebody on September 29, 2009, 02:30:03 pm
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I'm currently working pretty hard to finish off this film, and I thought I'd post up a little teaser to whet your appetites. This will be the first in a series of teasers, so sit back, relax, enjoy, then go and get on the fingerboard.
My ridiculous blurb;
"In early 2009 Tyler Landman decided it was time to face the greatest bouldering challenge on Earth, the sandstone paradise of Fontainebleau. Saving the best for last, Tyler had built up a strong CV including all of the hardest problems from Colorado, Hueco, Cresciano, Magic Wood, and Brione, but Fontainebleau had so far remained below the radar. He set out with only a desire to enjoy the many delicacies in the forest, but quickly began to find his flow and each day would bear witness to another incident of crushing. Making fast repeats of all the forest's hardest and best problems, it was all captured in HD by me (Unclesomebody Productions). The film will feature problems never before seen on film, from the esoteric to the famous, all linked by their supreme quality. The Film is currently in the studio being finished, but it will soon be unleashed upon the world, so prepare yourself for a bucket full of dismay. It will be available directly from www.unclesomebody.com/blog (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog) so stay tuned for more details".
More info at my blog, as always.
Teaser 1 (http://vimeo.com/6786801)
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Can't wait to see this Keith, teaser 1 looks very promising.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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(http://i37.tinypic.com/eithjd.jpg)
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AAARGH. SYKED. Looking forward to it keef.
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(http://www.themockturtle.com/Amock/images/smilies/xisco.gif)
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About time, you great jessie.
How much will you want?
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Are you making DVDs available keith? I'm not fussed for watching stuff on computers innit.
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I'm not fussed for watching stuff on computers innit.
especially if it means buying a new hard drive, graphics card, and upgrading your broadband connection.
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I'm not fussed for watching stuff on computers innit.
especially if it means buying a new hard drive, graphics card, and upgrading your broadband connection.
I could watch L'Etranger in Full HD on my eight year old PC using VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) with a very old nVidia graphics card. Use the torrents to download and leave it running overnight/for a day or so and its not that much of a ball-ache. But then that could be 'cause I'm on Linux ;)
Still got a DVD off Keith though (and bunged some cash his way for such a top-notch effort).
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Yeah, I was surprised how few people donated for that DL.
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Could still prove to be a smart move (inadvertently?) by Keith though as the number of people who saw L'Etranger (for free) was the best marketing ever for this film. I bet a lot of those people will now be willing to pay a few quid to watch the new film based on their enjoyment of the first film.
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I don't deny that.
The film was free, but donations were accepted. I watched it, liked it, therefore donated. It seems most people watched it, loved it, didn't donate.
Odd psychology. Or maybe Unc did it on purpose- reverse psychology or some shit.
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Yes I agree. Had this same discussion before and I said exactly what you're saying. It is odd, I'm just saying it may well have been a blessing in disguise as I think it will mean many more people pay for this film.
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I think the marketing of L'Etrnager was quite savvy for the very reasons you've both given.
Note the subtle reference to "Unclesomebody Productions".
Anyway, enough conjecture....new film, bouldering, font, by Unc :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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help the guy out, he has rent to pay now in the real world ;)
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I think you're onto a winner here unc! :bounce:
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It seems most people watched it, loved it, didn't donate.
Don't forget about people who watched it, didn't rate it, so naturally didn't donate. Or people who thought it was OK but don't necessarily agree that a donation was appropriate.
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Yes, but looking at how many people raved about the film on various websites you'd think more than a handful of people would donate.
I just hope it's not a case where a couple of people buy it then pass it around everyone else for free.
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I see your point Dave, but if I remember correctly from Uncles blog he stated only three people made any kind of donation. However many more than that were singing the praises of the film on various threads both here and at other venues.
So either:
a) People were saying they liked it because they know Uncle reads this stuff but really they thought it was log (I think this is not the case)
b) Uncle is lying and tonnes of people made a contribution (I think this is not the case)
c) People are tight cunts (sad, but probably the truth)
Or maybe lots of people thought that Unc was a mate so they didn't have to pay, but other people should. Or who the fuck knows what people think, it's generally a mystery to me.
I think it would be a pretty harsh critic who felt the film was worth nothing at all. You don't like it much give him a quid, you think it's average give him a fiver (still a lot less than the cost of a host of other average films out there), you thought it was great drop the lad twenty notes.
It's a shame that more people didn't donate and that the experiment didn't work. I can't say I'm surprised by the outcome but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed.
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I think it's just easier to charge. This removes the ambiguity. Download it for a tenner (example price), or I'll send you a DVD for fifteen quid (example price). L'Etranger had a value, and I'm sure Keith's new vid will certainly have a value given the amount of quality of footage he has, particularly of Tyler.
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I agree... charging a nominal fee is a good idea. Donations only work for charities.
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unbelievable
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Why Jim? Keith has put a lot of effort into this one and the other film and he deserves some kind of payback to at least cover his time and costs. Maybe a donation is still the way forward but asking for it in advance of the download is going yield better results than afterwards.
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Hey Jim, do you mean
Craig David - Unbelievable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qog5QsmdKjw#)
or
EMF - Unbelievable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5kr2OBhh4c#)
?
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hook line and sinker.
M is definately for motherfucking motherfucker
(thats not aimed at anyone btw)
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I'll buy a copy but only if you get that yoof to give us a definitive grade on Crescent Arete.
(please let it be 8a, I'd love to have done an 8a)
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The plan is to make a DVD available along with a download option. This is not yet set in stone, so hearing feedback from you lot is still welcome.
As for last years donation based system, it was something interesting that I wanted to do. It was for my own curiosity and I thought it was an interesting experiment. All this stuff about people who enjoyed but didn't donate is a load of BS. I think other people may care more than I do. At the end of the day, I just want people to enjoy the films and enjoy their time out on the rocks.
I do appreciate the sentiments though. Neil is correct in his assertion that the real world is expensive, so perhaps I should consider moving back to Maisonbleau! ;D
I am planning on making this film cheaper than any other climbing DVD and this is for a few reasons.
1. I am going to try and distribute (totally or partially) myself, which means less middle men, which means I can make the same money but you get it for less.
2. I think £20 for a DVD is preposterous. I know (or am beginning to learn) about the amount of work that goes into making a film, but at the same time I'm not trying to become a millionaire. I want to price this DVD at what I would be personally willing to pay for the greatest bouldering film, featuring the greatest problems, in the greatest climbing area, being climbed by the greatest climber in the world*.
3. Download option is nearly costless to me, apart from paying hosting and server fees. The digital age is great isn't it?
4. Other reasons.
*Greatest climber being defined by he who is having the most fun!
Anyway, enjoy the climbing. Enjoy Font. BOOM!
As for Crescent arete, it's 5+ isn't it? Have I just lost a sale?
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DVD would be nice if it had a decent booklet, otherwise a downloadable HD version would be better in my opinion. Unless you're doing BluRay? ;)
As far as donation goes, I know how much goes into making a film so it surprises me. However, you've got a good attitude to it and as long as you're happy with your experiment, that's fine.
You do realise Sloper will now say that Crescent Arete is 4 if you have technique. Power is nothing without control, eh Keith? :P
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back to main topic of thread,
he's a very flowing climber to watch... cool!
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I see your point Dave, but if I remember correctly from Uncles blog he stated only three people made any kind of donation.
Hate to be pedantic but it wasn't three people who donated. It was something like 16.
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Unc just make sure you have full clearance on music if you are going to sell it, just in case that one jumps up and bites you in the arse at a later date.
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I see your point Dave, but if I remember correctly from Uncles blog he stated only three people made any kind of donation.
Hate to be pedantic but it wasn't three people who donated. It was something like 16.
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this makes me feel quite special
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Hate to be pedantic but it wasn't three people who donated. It was something like 16.
:off:
Spot on (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog/?p=44)
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I do appreciate the sentiments though. Neil is correct in his assertion that the real world is expensive, so perhaps I should consider moving back to Maisonbleau! ;D
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As for Crescent arete, it's 5+ isn't it? Have I just lost a sale?
slpoer is to tight to buy a copy anyhow, so dont worry
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Footage looks ace... nice one unc. I'll certainly cough up some hard-earned. Hate to say something negative, but I thought you lot were too good to stoop to the fucking-massive-tick-marks mentality.
yours, slightly disappointed of sheffield
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Gerrin there lad, totally impressed by yer first effort. Expect great things from Font II :thumbsup:
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Hate to be pedantic but it wasn't three people who donated. It was something like 16.
:off:
People may not donate for a number of reasons. Not just because they are evil. Somebody I know LOVED the film, corresponded with Keith about how he though it was great, yet still didn't get round to donating. He was going to sort K dog out with some teeshirts from the company he worked for, though he secretly thought the brand was too shit really, but never quite got round to it. I He met Keith at random and gushingly admitted his guilt, shame and promised to move the earth to put things right. He did definitely get the impression that Keith was not that arsed. Either that or his new company had nothing to offer the man who has everything. So, don't be too hasty to judge. Have you always every time done everything you ment to? Never missed an anniversary, slacked off on that mothers day card? Missed a funeral? You know, we are all falafel.
Anyway, back on topic:
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Looks a bit homoerotic. But I guess the forest has that effect :kiss1:
Will you be shipping the DVD abroad? I have some Euro's burning a hole in my Lederhousen.
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Hate to be pedantic but it wasn't three people who donated. It was something like 16.
:off:
People may not donate for a number of reasons......
It was a simple clarification of numbers, Jasper has made no comment as to whether people should or shouldn't have donated (and has indicated that it may have been beneficial giving L'Etranger away).
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Anyone know how many downloads there were in total?
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Anyone know how many downloads there were in total?
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Well i've been seeding it as a torrent since keith asked, after donating a few quid for the hardcopies of the dvd.
:ang:
Azeurus seems to think i'm seeding it with a share ratio of 57348. this confuses me as my grasp of maths appears to be leading me to the conclusion that i have effectively uploaded 57,348 copies....this obviously isn't the case...
Cheers
Tim
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Looks a bit homoerotic. But I guess Unc's 7-pack has that effect :shag:
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I've seeded 54gb of uploads on it so that means 27ish full copies, but you can't really tell as that's divided by the number of other available seeds etc. or some other torrent bumph i don't quite get.
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i didn't donate any money to keith for l'etranger yet i thought it was "prob" the best climbing film i have ever seen. why did i not donate any money? simply because i didn't need to, that my friends is it, the sole reason, nothing malicious, not because i'm tight with money, no other reason that people seem to be searching for.
when keith comes to sell the new font vid with tyler in i will gladly pay 20 if he asks for 20. i've seen a few of the problems, ie the day they were shot, and would gladly pay that for 25 ish problems let alone the ridiculously staggering amount there actually is.
basically looking at my psychology for the above i'm prob trying to say if something comes over the ether i'm not going to pay for it, if i get a disc in my hand with a photo of tyler tops off then i'll gladly cough up some notes. which in itself is kinda weird since you'd think more people would pay to see young boys tops off over the ether, its a crazy world
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So here's another little teaser, lighter than scrambled eggs with nutmeg;
Teaser 2 (http://vimeo.com/6917255)
Also, thanks to the people who helped seed L'Étranger. I couldn't answer exactly how many downloads there were in total, but including how many people watched in on bleau.info, I would say it was certainly over 5000.
Shipping will be worldwide, from Mongolia to Tuvalu.
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Teasers are doing their thing :bow: :bounce:
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Ok. I am well and truely teased Keith! :bounce:
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looks great uncle, is that track the french euro vision entry from a couple years ago?
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Yes I agree. Had this same discussion before and I said exactly what you're saying. It is odd, I'm just saying it may well have been a blessing in disguise as I think it will mean many more people pay for this film.
I watched, liked, and paid: you've gotta respect the sheer time and effort let alone quality of the thing.
However we all do what we do, so I think tight gits are as unlikely to stump up second time around as they were the first.
Unless there's a solid price to be paid before watching it and they can't contain themselves of course... :-\
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So here's another little teaser, lighter than scrambled eggs with nutmeg;
Looks real good, but wtf is that green line that comes shooting through at 36 seconds in?
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So here's another little teaser, lighter than scrambled eggs with nutmeg;
Looks real good, but wtf is that green line that comes shooting through at 36 seconds in?
Artistic license?
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So here's another little teaser, lighter than scrambled eggs with nutmeg;
Looks real good, but wtf is that green line that comes shooting through at 36 seconds in?
:spank: Its Willow the Wisp of course ::)
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Nah, it was a guest appreance by Kylie.
(http://www.thefilmexperience.net/Shrine/movies/moulinkylie.jpg)
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I can't wait for this. As for stumping up cash, why the fuck not? Those teasers look more professionally edited than the majority of climbing films I've seen. Think Winter Sessions.
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FFS. Keith's already said that he will be charging for this film so can everyone shut up about it now.
Maggers - If Kylie was in it then it truly would be the greatest bouldering film ever made. ;D
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Maggers - If Kylie was in it then it truly would be the greatest bouldering film ever made. ;D
:goodidea: I'd definately pay for it then! ;)
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So here's another little teaser, lighter than scrambled eggs with nutmeg;
Looks real good, but wtf is that green line that comes shooting through at 36 seconds in?
Its a nice effect;
a-ha - Analogue (All I Want): Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13soHdTgLVo#noexternalembed)
I worked on this video. There is currently an E-On commercial with something similar.
I'm all for some artistic interest in climbing films. Maybe not the wacky unnecessary graphics of Colorado Daydream where it makes up 90% of the content. It is a fine line, I trust Keith to at least make something that he is happy with.
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For the record, I liked Keith's wee green squiggle, I thought it added a nice bit of interest without taking over from the climbing. [/'Pie's expert opinion]
the wacky unnecessary graphics of Colorado Daydream where it makes up 90% of the content.
That's was appauling, wasn't it? I turned it off in the end because I couldn't be sure if I was having some awful drugs flashback or it was really meant to be like that. :lol:
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Its a nice effect;
a-ha - Analogue (All I Want): Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13soHdTgLVo#noexternalembed)
I worked on this video. There is currently an E-On commercial with something similar.
I'm all for some artistic interest in climbing films. Maybe not the wacky unnecessary graphics of Colorado Daydream where it makes up 90% of the content. It is a fine line, I trust Keith to at least make something that he is happy with.
Did you do post on this? Is it some Foundry plugin that everyone's got all of a sudden? Saw it in a Talk Talk Ad too. Different from the green squiggle, which is just motion graphics. I reckon you need a 3d motion tracker to do this. Just curious.....
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It's 4:20am. The name is decided. Teaser 3 is done. Check it out. I'm starting to feel like a nutcracker myself. More info at www.unclesomebody.com/blog (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog)
Between The Trees [could someone put the new name in the thread title? ta]
Teaser 3 - Between The Trees (http://vimeo.com/7035346)
night night.
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Can't wait! :bounce:
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Hmm, when are you going to stop teasing us!
(Blog is timing out when I tried this morning (06:44 GMT))
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Loving Ty's spotting at 1.30. "Run Away!"
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Keith, I'm envious that you have the time to spend on this. My projects are very much on hold due to lack of time to sit and edit. I look forward to the finished product.
Just one question: Where did you get that hat, where did you get that hat?
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its ready, well almost, keith has finally finished the edit the render the rest final satges now
get a move on keith
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GET A MOVE ON!. You know. When you're ready and that
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Everybody should be aware that the crucial moment came the other night. Keith and I have been living parallel lifestyles for the past month and it's difficult for me to put into words to you just how much energy has gone into this film. It's good to know that Keith might now be able to return to a normal biorhythm after his weekend of respite with Nibile. Congratulations beast. Stay tuned people!!!
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2447/picture2zi.png) (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/picture2zi.png/)
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why are you chatting to a skoda?
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What can I say beast? I love high grade women named after low grade car models.
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:jealous: :bounce:
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YYFY!
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(http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/front-cover-sander.jpg) (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog/?p=390)
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Arrrgghh!!.... download or disc, download or disc? >:(
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Arrrgghh!!.... download or disc, download or disc? >:(
Both! download for the hi-res; Disc for posterity.
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is the outsider going to be on the extras of the disc??
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I doubt it, it's a bit long/ big.
Have you not got l'Etranger?
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Arrrgghh!!.... download or disc, download or disc? >:(
Both! download for the hi-res; Disc for posterity.
Exactly what I did with L'Etranger.
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I doubt it, it's a bit long/ big.
Have you not got l'Etranger?
natch but only on download...
having both on the same disc would be nice...
but hey ho
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I'd suggest the HD download is likely to be better quality than a DVD can be.
But it's nice to have packaging for posterity.
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I'd suggest the HD download is likely to be better quality than a DVD can be.
But it's nice to have packaging for posterity.
exactly...
that's why I still have cd/vinyl collection whilst the kids all have downloads... ::)
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this may be a stupid question...how do you get your name down for a dvd, i looked on the site, but the products page seems to be password protected?
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this may be a stupid question...how do you get your name down for a dvd, i looked on the site, but the products page seems to be password protected?
You don't, reading the last blog entry (linked above on the DVD cover I posted) pre-orders will be available when Keith has the first box of DVDs from the manufacturers.
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And then someone (Slackers, I am looking at you ;)) will bump the thread so I know to put my name down because I cannot work the download thing at all. :-[
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That's great that the option to download exists, and at higher quality too. More money to the film maker with a download which is why it seems like madness that you get less content if download Progress rather than buy the DVD.
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Seminal.
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Cup of tea is made, download you bugger! :bounce:
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3 hours left.....
Off to the Cliff now, so it should be sitting on my desktop when I return :thumbsup:
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i got very early this morning ;D
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:bounce: Card abused,
waiting for download link downloading now (DVD to follow in the post :thumbsup: ).
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You're all big show-offs with your downloads. I am awaiting my DVD in the post since I can never manage to download anything successfully. ::)
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I think everyone should hold off on their downloads until mine, Adam's and GCW's have finished as you're using up the bandwidth at the host site and my Kb/s have dropped from an initial of ~180Kb/s to ~140Kb/s. Net effect its going to take more than the initial 3hrs it indicated it would to download :furious:
(I guess the only consolation is that I'm at work and won't actually be able to watch it till this evening :P)
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I think everyone should hold off on their downloads until Adam's has finished.
:agree: ;)
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Mines showing a quite healthy 340-ish. Maybe you should move over to a Linux system like me Slackers instead of being Bill Gates bitch ;)
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I had 350Kb/s till you lot got in on the act. :wall: :spank:
And those of us who are at work and can't watch it till they get home should bu**er off downloading until this afternoon. It's been stuck at 2.5 hours to go for the last 1.5 hours.
I'm studying at home and I want some lunchtime psyche :please:
Can't wait :bounce:
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Mines showing a quite healthy 340-ish. Maybe you should move over to a Linux system like me Slackers instead of being Bill Gates bitch ;)
:oops: What was I thinking*!! Could just be a shit connection/route between home and the hosts. I guess I could have tried the CLI with wget to see if things were faster that way, but I doubt it would have made much difference.
BTW Nik, if you're doing anything at the CLI and want to do it repeatedly/recursively, check out the xargs command, its amazingly useful.
And those of us who are at work and can't watch it till they get home should bu**er off downloading until this afternoon. It's been stuck at 2.5 hours to go for the last 1.5 hours.
I'm at work, but downloading at home :P
* Work are actually quite content for me to have Linux on my computer here, would never have happened ath the ludite-ish NHS :thumbsup:
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Blam. I got DVD and DL. Can't have too much of a good thing don't they say.... WOn't be dling for a while though, so don't panic with the bandwidth..
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Alright you win, I'm a Linux lightweight. I have not the slightest idea what CLI is. My best guess would be Command Line Interface?
As for Xargs, I think they were in Dan Dare??
Down to the low 200's now, bum.
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Retard question: I guess I can't order the DVD+download at work cos I need to be at home to download it, right?
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You'll get an email with a link to the downnload so just have that sent to your email at home and you'll be reet. Make sense?
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Alright you win, I'm a Linux lightweight. I have not the slightest idea what CLI is. My best guess would be Command Line Interface?
Not a comp, but spot on, doing stuff in terminals, like 'sudo apt-get update'
As for Xargs, I think they were in Dan Dare??
Found it yesterday when I wanted to sort out some permissions on files/directories recursively. Wanted to set all files to be read-writeable by owner and user and read for other and have some 20000 files to apply to (all pictures from the past three years organised into YYYY/MM/DD directories). Pain in the arse to go into each, but from the command line (whilst in the directory that contains all the YYYY dirs) it was as simple as...
$ find . -type f print0 | xargs -0 chmod 0644
..or similarly to compress every file within a directory tree (sub-directories)
$ find -type f print0 | xargs -0 bzip2
Can't believe its taken me eight years to learn this!!! Anyway :off: :guilty: (can't help myself!!)
Down to the low 200's now, bum.
:lol:
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You'll get an email with a link to the downnload so just have that sent to your email at home and you'll be reet. Make sense?
thanks Dogtanian.
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I'm a luddite and will wait patiently for my nice shiny dvd. Can't remember the last time I bought a climbing film.
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fantastic - couldn't decide so have just ordered the duo, although with my broadband the DVD will probably arrive first
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I'm a luddite and will wait patiently for my nice shiny dvd.
You and me both. Nothing like the anticipation.
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Downloaded! Watching now ;D
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Downloaded! Watching now ;D
10mins to go here. The question is do I the scp it to here at work and sneakily watch it (the models I'm running are currently taking 40minutes only to fail to converge, so there's scope for viewing!!).
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Slack! After all this hype you are just going to watch it in the corner of the screen at work! Shame. Watch it tonight.
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Slack! After all this hype you are just going to watch it in the corner of the screen at work! Shame. Watch it tonight.
Nah, under Linux I have four desktops, watch on one, have work open on the other, anyone comes near flick to the work one :thumbsup:
I was a Eagle, I flew down and I was a fish swimming
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Just finished watching, brilliant, I really, really enjoyed it. :great:
Nice one UncleSomebody :bow:
So psyched I'm on my board already
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I'm getting 1.18Mb/s download. look at me!
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Wow. Top drawer. Flow...
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:bow: :thumbsup:
Good work Keith, top notch film, really enjoyed watching it.
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I return from a crap day out to find my download has times out. Balls.
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I return from a crap day out to find my download has times out. Balls.
Same thing here NNFN
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and i return from a long day in bed to find mozilla still scanning for viruses 3 hours after it first started scanning for viruses :wall:
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what file size is the download?
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About 2GB.
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2.0 GB (2102367438 bytes)
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ta(rts). ;)
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:boohoo: thats for all you computer download losers. dvd for me!
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I went for the tangible digital versatile disk version....FTW
I hope it rains the day it arrives!
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and i return from a long day in bed to find mozilla still scanning for viruses 3 hours after it first started scanning for viruses :wall:
You know there's an easy solution to this ;)
ISPs most likely to blame for timeouts (I suspect!)
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I got the timeout message, but I was downloading it at work and had to leave so broke the connection. Any break in connection would bring up this message
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It is a lovely piece of film, with plenty of humour, great music and of course endless crushing.
Best bouldering film of the year by a mile :)
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I got the timeout message, but I was downloading it at work and had to leave so broke the connection. Any break in connection would bring up this message
Yes obviously, but when you left work, did you turn your computer off? An active net connection is any connection between two computers, so if you start downloading from one place to yours an connection is made, and in theory should persist until completion. Leaving work doesn't break this. My supposition (which I wasn't explicit about and is purely a guess) is that a steady d/l on a home computer is clocked by an ISP as being p2p traffic (and not of torrent nature, more napster/soulseek style with direct connections) and periodically disconnected. As its a direct connection it won't be restarted. The other possibility is that the host server is getting overloaded, but I'm pretty sure Unc experienced this with L'Etranger, and it was what prompted setting up a torrent for that, so my guess is that he will have anticipate demand and setup hosting with sufficient bandwidth.
Anyway bit of an arse having it disconnected, whatever the cause, 'cause its really good :P :-*
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My problem now is when I try to download it again, it pops a window up saying "transferring betweenthetrees[1] from 16uof98u", which I presume is a temp file (that I can't find). And all I get is a broken mpeg.
So now I'm downloading it onto one of the other PCs whilst looking for this alleged 16uof98u :wank:
First person to make any penguin references dies.
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:whistle:
Just watching again, not trying to rub it in, but the best thing about it is, is how munch fun Keith & Tyler are having, just the same as everyone else who visits does. Oh and the soundtrack is great, goes well with the action throughout.
(http://www.pick.ucam.org/~mcv21/penguin1.jpg)
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Just watching again, not trying to rub it in, but the best thing about it is, is how munch fun Keith & Tyler are having, just the same as everyone else who visits does.
so it's about them eating, not climbing? weird.
p.s. penguins penguins blah blah blah ;)
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It's working now, I can only assume the temp file has been deleted (but not by me) :-\
So I will have 2 copies (maybe). Should look good on the Kray's screen.
PS:
(http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/16/16/2/15/99/308021599HeBkoE_th.jpg) (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1308021599049022441HeBkoE)
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:lol:
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Had the download drop out on me 4 times now! :thumbsdown: The download speed when i started trying this evening was 160KB/sec and now when i try its down to 30KB/sec...... anyone else having difficulty? Heavy traffic possibly causing it in the server?
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Heavy traffic possibly causing it in the server?
Only one somebody could answer that.
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been pretty steady so far, in fact gone up from 99kb/s to 113kb/s - 1hr 56m..........
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I've been at the wall while the download was converted to h264 and I'm only half way through watching it on my phone (no sound on home pc :'() but despite losing the hd it's got to be the best bouldering film I've ever seen.
I'm caught between pissing myself laughing and straight jaw dropping at Tyler's crushing
an awesome effort, well done Keith :bow: :bow: :bow:
can't wait to get back to the forest :bounce:
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Dear all. I can't say this sincerely enough, but thank you so much for all the praise and support. I'll be perfectly honest and say that I was nervous about this whole thing. I wasn't sure if everything was going to fall apart so I'm pretty relieved right now that you guys/gals enjoyed it.
For me the greatest compliments have been in the form of the comments on here and the emails I've received. I have the ultimate satisfaction when people email me saying that they have been inspired to go climbing, or to visit font, or to train that little bit harder. That's pretty much all I want, to inspire people to go out and enjoy doing what they love. That's what keeps me in this game. It's what I love to do. I love climbing.
A few tech things. Bandwidth won't be an issue at my end as I have a private server set up and a ridiculous amount of resources at my disposal. Lots of people are reporting 2Mbps downloads... The film is encoded with h264, although technically it will be identified as avc1. I did this to ensure maximum compatibility, as this is a very common format in this day and age. I did put up some tech instructions at my site, so head there if you have issues. Or you can always email me! I'm more than happy to help.
Thanks again for all your support. You have no idea how much I appreciate it. :'( <- tears of joy.
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I just downloaded L'estranger but can't find where it has been downloaded to on my computer. Any ideas?
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I just downloaded L'estranger but can't find where it has been downloaded to on my computer. Any ideas?
Go back to the page, and go through the motions of downloading again, but pause, and when the little box comes up asking you where you want to save it to, have a look at the directory, it will be indicated at the top in the middle of the dialog box, and you can likely pull down a little menu and see which directory tree its in.
Failing that try "Downloads" or try this (http://tinyurl.com/yzw43wq) (there'll be a more useful answer in there somewhere).
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Great video, loved the "Yeah Right" bit! Definately inspired
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I just downloaded L'estranger but can't find where it has been downloaded to on my computer. Any ideas?
Go back to the page, and go through the motions of downloading again, but pause, and when the little box comes up asking you where you want to save it to, have a look at the directory, it will be indicated at the top in the middle of the dialog box, and you can likely pull down a little menu and see which directory tree its in.
Failing that try "Downloads" or try this (http://tinyurl.com/yzw43wq) (there'll be a more useful answer in there somewhere).
Argh! Still no joy. What is this torrent thing? Maybe I'll try that.
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mine downloaded ok although the file was called 'download.php'. Thankfully I'm a real computer whizz so i renamed it and hey presto it worked. Only watched a bit cos it was well late and I need my beauty sleep but what i saw was great, particularly the opening credits.
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Mine kept stalling yesterday, but it worked when I told it to save to desktop rather than to the automatic choice of the downloads folder (on a Mac). I've no idea why this worked, but it's done the trick more than once for me.
So: click on the link in the email, wait for it to open a browser window, then click save as and direct it to save to desktop. I was using Firefox. Might be worth a try.
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question: do I have to convert it or whatever so I can put it on an ip***e?
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question: do I have to convert it or whatever so I can put it on an ip***e?
Depends what version you have. It says here (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/19/apples_iphone_3g_s_sports_chip_with_720p_hd_video_capabilities.html) that the 3GS has a built in codec for the 720p HD format the film is in.
Or you can just go ahead and convert it as per these instructions (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=convert+720p+for+iphone)
(Caveat : I don't have an iPhone and have no real idea what I'm talking about in this domain :P tomtom might be able to help)
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Excellent offering once again Keith. I applaud your efforts, and especially Ty's crushing capacity. Seriously, you must have read the guidebook wrongly. No one can make problems of that difficulty look so easy...... surely? Brilliant filming and excellent editing. It is a very crisp and honed film that truly illustrates Font at it's finest. God I love that forest.
Can't wait for my trip there in April. I'm not quite up to either of your standards, but you've given me some ideas - Watchtower looks right up my street. Prepare for a siege.
Keith, I think you have given me the missing link in my training formula:
Between The Trees + Beastmaker 2000 = Immeasurable crushing capability
Top banana, nice one, smashing stuff, wicked, nuff said.
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Cofe
I converted the download using real converter (cos it's simple) so that I could watch it on my iphone (3g but not S). It took about 4 hours but the converted file is only 1/2 gb and although clearly not HD is very watchable. some other videos I've converted this way have ended up massively pixelated but in this case that was only an issue for less than 5% of the film, little enough to ignore for the benefit of portability.
the lack of sound on my computer is a hardware issue nothing to do with the file but i can't wait for the DVD to arrive for that big screen and stereo sound effect = maximum pscyhe!!
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question: do I have to convert it or whatever so I can put it on an ip***e?
get mpeg streamclip, does a lovely job of converting video files to all sort of useful formats very easily.
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question: do I have to convert it or whatever so I can put it on an ip***e?
get mpeg streamclip, does a lovely job of converting video files to all sort of useful formats very easily.
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html (http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html)
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thanks boys. loved your orange hat at rempart by the way pritch.
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Think that fine man Keith has done the conversion for you. Perhaps. So my sources tell me...
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your sources are so yesterday JD.
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:thumbsup:
Just watched it now and think it's the best bouldering video I have ever seen!, Ty's a machine!
So psyched for font now!, one more day at work and I'll be there!
Muwahahahah!
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Just downloaded and watched this and enjoyed it immensely. Some of the things I enjoyed about it were the down to earth/ personal nature of the film and the way Tyler turned from a mild mannered youth to a crush beast when he got on a problem. Thanks for the inspiration.
P.S. Good luck with gecko assis on your next visit.
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this film is amazing and i think that basically everything is shit so it must be impressive, can't really fault it nice one :thumbsup:
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Finally managed to download the film using my works connection... bloody home ISP :furious:
Watched the film last night. Its fantastic! Uncle has defiantly progressed as a film maker since his last film!
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Uncle has defiantly progressed as a film maker since his last film!
Wouldn't argue with this - It's certainly filled with lots of nice little touches; but I was wanting a couple more close ups giving details of holds etc. I really enjoyed the split screen action/close ups (/whatever the tech. name is) on the filming of Noir Desir in l'Etranger, bring it back!
Overall this is a great film though and above criticism is nit picking. The soundtrack is great and will hopefully help make repeated viewings equally fun as it's a bit more chilled out/varied than the overly dramatic dosage style. The sense of humour throughout is good, and adds loads to the film. Talky bits are great too. I wasn't expecting that part to be so good. They help give a great profile of Font and Ty.
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The soundtrack is amazing as well!
Good work! :dance1:
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Anyone's DVD arrived yet? Any idea of timings, man from U.N.C.L.E.?
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They’ve now told me that the DVD’s will be ready by Friday 13th. It’s much longer than anticipated, but there is nothing I can do as it’s out of my hands. Maybe I should have just burned them all on my PC and hand drawn individual covers made from old weetabix boxes? It would have been faster, that’s for sure.The DVD will be sent out to you lovely people on either Friday 13th or Monday the 16th. I can’t make any guarantees, but you should understand that I will do everything in my power to try and get them out to you the second they are delivered to HQ.
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AAAAAAARGH.
:)
Thanks
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I went for the DVD, gotta say I'm feeling a little jealous.
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Patience is a virtue. :)
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i got both and despite having watched it on the computer i'm looking forward to watching it 'properly' when the digital video disk arrives.
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I sense you will be soon distracted by something else...
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"repeat after daddy: shick-a-ding"
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Quality film uncle, loved it :)
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Best climbing film ever produced i reckon. Absolutely genius especially the chalk bag bit!
Really good music to
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I had the choice of watching it last night or playing COD 6 for the first time. I played COD 6 and I fear I have chosen poorly.
Still, there's always tonight!
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Absolutely genius especially the chalk bag bit!
]Agreed - my favourite part to date
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DVDs still delayed at manufacturers (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog/?p=488) (glad I got the download too :P)
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I have the download. However, it is very slow, about 30kb/sec.
...and I do not have patience at the best of times!
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DVDs still delayed at manufacturers (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog/?p=488) (glad I got the download too :P)
Damnit damnit damnit damnit ;)
Knew I would pick the wrong option!
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Downloaded last week :great:
Splendid work 'unc somebod', captured the vibe of the forest very well, really enjoyed!
There is one thing though..... do you blummin laces up would you or you're gonna trip over one of these days. ;D
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I went for the 'DVD and download combo' and watched the HD vid on Saturday morning - FrEaKiN awesome!! :great:
The only thing I longed for more of were the close-ups on holds with hands/feet being placed - they looked amazing in HD and I found myself trying to figure out how I would hang them, so would have loved a few more of those kinda shots.
Taking nothing away from it though, simply great!
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They wait. Because that's what they do.
Tick followed tock followed tick followed tock.
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Just finished watching. Well done fella, it is an awesome movie!
With the stark realisation that I will never be close to that good, I may give up climbing forever!
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Ah, but with that realisation comes freedom, young one.
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Wise words!
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And with that freedom comes great responsibility...
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Yes, young Jedi, the responsibility to drink beer. Have at it lad!
O n a rather more overly cerebral note check out this review of the film: http://www.mountainsandwater.com/2009/11/between-trees-review.html (http://www.mountainsandwater.com/2009/11/between-trees-review.html) A bit over the top IMO.
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Over the top maybe but this.....
It is quite literally the best climbing film I have seen in years
.....says it all really.
I'm getting quite impatient now although I realise Keith is doing everything he can (http://www.unclesomebody.com/blog/?p=492) to get the dvds out!
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On a rather more overly cerebral note check out this review of the film: http://www.mountainsandwater.com/2009/11/between-trees-review.html (http://www.mountainsandwater.com/2009/11/between-trees-review.html) A bit over the top IMO.
Pretentious, moi? :)
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Interview with Keith about the film
http://bjornpohl.blogspot.com/2009/11/keith-bradbury-interview.html (http://bjornpohl.blogspot.com/2009/11/keith-bradbury-interview.html)
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I've had a long, long day and feel somewhat terrible, but the good news is that the DVD's are now in the post! YYFY! Everyone in the UK can expect theirs in the morning, so I hope you all enjoy the contents...
Thanks for your patience guys and girls.
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YYFY! Nice one Keef! :dance1:
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Awesome movie keith. Really liked l'etranger and this is better, well worth the wait and one of the best bouldering movies I've seen. Great shots and really cool soundtrack. Great effort man can't wait for the next movie.....
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I just came back from a font trip which started with me crashing my car into Neil's wall at the start and proceeding to then fail in a weak, non-epic wussy way on all but one problem on the tick list. I thus downloaded the film with a heavy heart, expecting to be filled with depression and thoughts of going to bishop instead next year.
Well. I don't want to bum Keith and Tyler too much (or in fact, at all, technically speaking, just a figure of speech you understand), but having watched it I have this to say:
This film is the shizzle. Tyler is (a) hilarious and (b) isn't really crushing, more wielding a fucking wrecking ball. The film is funny, well made, and full of impressive sends from start to (almost - watch it) finish. It's wicked. Very glad I ordered the DVD too.
Back to training then. And a new car. (Actually that last part is a lie. The car is a beige volvo, but now with sandstone go slower stripes down one side, so frankly, I'm more bothered by the lack of crushing and the embarrassment of beige paint on Neil's wall.)
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:lol: I know I'm a shit driver but I'm glad I've never hit Neil's Wall.
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:thumbsup: :bounce:
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I just came back from a font trip which started with me crashing my car into Neil's wall at the start and proceeding to then fail in a weak, non-epic wussy way on all but one problem on the tick list. I thus downloaded the film with a heavy heart, expecting to be filled with depression and thoughts of going to bishop instead next year.
Well. I don't want to bum Keith and Tyler too much (or in fact, at all, technically speaking, just a figure of speech you understand), but having watched it I have this to say:
This film is the shizzle. Tyler is (a) hilarious and (b) isn't really crushing, more wielding a fucking wrecking ball. The film is funny, well made, and full of impressive sends from start to (almost - watch it) finish. It's wicked. Very glad I ordered the DVD too.
Back to training then. And a new car. (Actually that last part is a lie. The car is a beige volvo, but now with sandstone go slower stripes down one side, so frankly, I'm more bothered by the lack of crushing and the embarrassment of beige paint on Neil's wall.)
dont worry I finally got the paint off, you might want to check the othe side of your car, there is a big strip of beige paint down the the gate ;D
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I have it in my hands, inpressive work from Unc and the PO for getting it up here overnight in spite of terrible weather. Dilemma is do I sneakily watch it at work, or wait until hangover from Xmas party subsides tomorrow, so I can enjoy on telly. I am even thinking of staying sober so I can watch it early, how fucking tragic am I.
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I have it in my hands, inpressive work from Unc and the PO for getting it up here overnight in spite of terrible weather. Dilemma is do I sneakily watch it at work, or wait until hangover from Xmas party subsides tomorrow, so I can enjoy on telly. I am even thinking of staying sober so I can watch it early, how fucking tragic am I.
get a life :alky:
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Seconded.
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Where's the bloody postie?
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Yay! Look forward to a deliver later! :thumbsup:
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i am leaving work early to train at the works and watch it tonight.aint been this excited since i was a kid
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(http://www.themockturtle.com/Amock/images/smilies/xrolic.gif)
Mine arrived!! That's Friday night sorted then! :thumbsup:
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The hard copy has arrived! I know what I'm doing for the next 94 minutes.......
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xmas party?, in the middle of November? bah humbug 'n that.
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xmas party?, in the middle of November? bah humbug 'n that.
Better than last year when it was mid January! I suspect my will will hold for about 3 nanoseconds. Forecast for tomorrow is terrible weather anyway.
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no joy yet :( rubbish postie :'(
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Mine arrived .....and i've got a bonus daim bar sweet in the package as well! awesome!
:great:
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I too have a new item of beauty to appreciate (and have packed it to take to Sardinia, I overheard my chuffing friends talking about a trip to Font last night this will convince them its a great idea :thumbsup:)
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I got a call from Mother this evening saying a DVD had arrived in the post. Now, as I've not lived there for 5 years this came as a surprise to me, so as Between the Trees hadn't arrived at my house I asked her to open it, and surprise surprise the DVD was there...
looking back at my payal I realised I hadn't changed my address from back in the day, NNFN!!!!
now its 200 miles away, glad I got the download too now! still, safe and well waiting for me to pick it up in a couple of weeks..
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Did your Mum watch it?
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I'm watching it again now, just so I'm properly angry about spending another weekend doing DIY.
I can't believe how easy Tyler makes things look. His ability to climb dynamically is immense. Kudos to Keith again..
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Extras really good too!
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High quality packaging and nice extras addd to an already excellent film, although I must agree with the mountains and water guy, what's with the untied dragons? For some reason i find myself staring at the laces in a lot of the shots of Keith climbing, rather than watching the action!
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Watched last night; I can't really add anything to what's already been said, it's brilliant. The soundtrack is absolutely awesome, I loved it, great effort Keith. :bow:
But, yes, do watch you don't trip on those shoelaces. :mother:
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:great: :thumbsup: :great: :thumbsup: :great: :thumbsup: :great:
shame royal mail smashed my casing... :(
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Watched the DVD today whilst sucking on the sweetie.
I was massively impressed by both the climbing and the filming.
Nice touches like the chalk bag throwing and the corn field interview.
Minor niggles for me where the navigating the DVD's menu's and a few tree branches in the way of some of the climbing.
Hat off to ya Keith
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Watched the DVD today whilst sucking on the sweetie.
Euphemism?
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cheers keith. very good.
need a new TV. mine is way to old and dark for this shit.
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Did your Mum watch it?
yeah she's so psyched she's booked her next font trip already!
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get a life :alky:
Well the hangover subsided about 4pm (have realised I am officially a lightweight drinker these days) and watched the DVD before we had a power failure in the village yesterday evening. It's fucking ace, nice one keef.
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Can someone please enlighten me, who is that Frederick bloke on the inside of Tylers hoodie?
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Still no present from the postie today, feckin hurry it up :furious:
All the rave reviews aint exactly helping ;D
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I wont make it worse then. Well just a little bit. It's very very good. :)
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i managed to touch keith tonight at the wall, but promised not to tell
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i managed to touch cloth tonight at the wall, but promised not to tell
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I touched Keith, who was touching cloth and I shall be publicising the fact.
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i managed to touch keith tonight at the wall, but promised not to tell
Do you intend never washing that hand again, or do you never wash them anyway?
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My copy of the DVD made it over to the Emerald Isle and well chuffed - superb effort unclesomebody/Keith!!
:great:
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keith the dvd is amazing.the soundtrack awesome.the track rollerskate my fave.gave me a new artist to check.i need to rinse keiths ipod.
glad i read this tho cause both me and the wife thought we had a ghost as we both swore blind we didnt put a mini dime bar on the kitchen table
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We've got plenty of copies down the Works
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Friday evening web purchase. In my hands now.
I'm very impressed
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Mine hasn't turned up yet :(. But then I'm not surprised as I'm probably the furthest away.
Hope Keith didn't put a sweetie in or it'll get confiscated by Customs........
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Mine hasn't turned up yet :(. But then I'm not surprised as I'm probably the furthest away.
Hope Keith didn't put a sweetie in or it'll get confiscated by Customs........
me neither - guess those planes aren't flying so quickly these days...
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Ker-schwing :bounce:
It arrived yesterday morning, watched most of it last night.
....and crush mode was engaged, lol.
Bon stuff squire, well impressed.
ps - that Tyler chappie seems quite good ;)
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most of us would be quite good if we all weighed the same as my leg
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I dunno, I bet I'm a similar weight (to Ty, not to Jim's leg) and I've yet to dispatch many of the harder classics. ;)
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I dunno, I bet I'm a similar weight (to Ty, not to Jim's leg) and I've yet to dispatch many of the harder classics. ;)
Has anyone told Magpie that her leg warmers are lead-lined? ;)
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(to Ty, not to Jim's leg)
according to the mathmatic equation;
jims leg(kg) = tyler(kg)
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I had the pleasure of meeting Unc tonight down at Bristol bouldering wall. You can all rest assured that your £££'s have gone to a thoroughly down to earth and lovely bloke. The sort of guy you could chat about nothing to all night.
Nice one Unc. Good luck on Gecko Assis next week!
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me neither - guess those planes aren't flying so quickly these days...
i knew this would work - post the 'mines not bloody arrived yet' message then lo and behold guess what arrives in the post the next day...
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I had the pleasure of meeting Unc tonight down at Bristol bouldering wall. You can all rest assured that your £££'s have gone to a thoroughly down to earth and lovely bloke. The sort of guy you could chat about nothing to all night.
Nice one Unc. Good luck on Gecko Assis next week!
are you insane? keith's a fuckin cock, but i lv him. him, not his cock
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I had the pleasure of meeting Unc tonight down at Bristol bouldering wall. You can all rest assured that your £££'s have gone to a thoroughly down to earth and lovely bloke. The sort of guy you could chat about nothing to all night.
Nice one Unc. Good luck on Gecko Assis next week!
Are you sure that was Keith?
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I had the pleasure of meeting Unc tonight down at Bristol bouldering wall. You can all rest assured that your £££'s have gone to a thoroughly down to earth and lovely bloke. The sort of guy you could chat about nothing to all night.
Nice one Unc. Good luck on Gecko Assis next week!
think you've pulled keith.
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In reply to Dylan: It could well have been.
You can't fucking leave the house in Bristol at the moment without running into Keith. If he's not clogging up the dance floors swinging his t-shirt round his head to the latest psychedelic trance, he's holding up the queue at the wall trying to bribe the attendant (don't they know who he is?) with some DVD or other.
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what a git.
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This one time...in the school room...me and keith were alone together and you couldnt IMAGINE what he managed to do with one hand! :jaw:
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most of us would be quite good if we all weighed the same as my leg
You just have big legs though :P
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This one time...in the school room...me and keith were alone together and you couldnt IMAGINE what he managed to do with one hand! :jaw:
This one time...in band camp.... one hand, a trumpet, you guess the rest
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You can't fucking leave the house in Bristol at the moment without running into Keith.
:agree:
Spotted him at TCA the other day. He looks slimmer when not in widescreen format. ;)
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Just noticed this over on Bleau.info:
Hello to Tyler and Keith ; and everyone concerned.
I've been amazed and exited to have opportunity to see your climbs, but was finally shocked and feeling depressed about the way all the problems are done with "bad" starts. When it's not from a pad it's from many, and same for the seat-starts who are definitely not seated in the movie.
It will be so easy for such strong climbers like you, or anyone, to be more concerned by the "proper" way to start a problem. It's not a trouble of ethic at all, if you consider the start by the same point of view as the end of a boulder... To do a problem, you have to exit well, so why not starting well?
Starting a problem will be always better not using pad(s) and all kind of artificial elevation when possible, simply. Considering the pads just for falling could be the next goal of future generations! The thinner layer you put under your feet to start, the cleaner and harder is your climb. And finally, what counts more than the "way" you do things?...
Maybe there's a "start-carpet" to be done by all the pads manufacturers! I do not like too the "paillasson" (house-entrance thing) usually used by many bleausards, as i find it too heavy and slippering a lot on forest ground. I prefer using a simple rag (legs cut from dead pants...) in dry conditions - couldn't find thinner layer and very usefull for cleaning holds too -, and the thinner carpet as you can found in cars if ground is too wet.
Notice also, i don't care starting on a pad or a stone when it's really the last and only solution for me to start a boulder. And i'm really not that psyched about people starting on the pad doing jogg-style-circuit, or one problem for his own deep in the woods, as long as they never manage to appear on a media scene and giving this for example.
Also please, Tyler and Keith, don't take that request specially for you! Even if your movie goes too far on this aspect for me, i can see that at differents levels (of elevation!) everywhere in the bouldering activity now.
Where are we going with bouldering if we never consider clearly and properly the best way to start a boulder? Where are the limits? Are you starting on a stiff new SNAP pad, or do you prefer a mega huge Black Diamond? Ah OK, maybe the best is even a very old BBZ folded in 3?
Well, I'm felling sad about making such a long text for this, and maybe it's just cause i'm an old school guy, who has climbed too much when the pads where not in the activity at all...
I just hope it could be time for everyone to pay a bit more attention on the closest way to start from natural ground where all boulders stands, so maybe higher will be the achievement of bouldering.
Stephan Denys.
Interesting, especially from the land of French Starts.
Certinly pretty Old Skool though :lol:
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I saw it (for free 'natch) and thought it was excellently put together, and should be a big hit on the gay fetish scene.
My one moan was that it was really hard to understand just how hard the climbing is, I've felt some of the (non) holds on kheops and to see it put away like an easy pink was simply not on.
Likewise Duel.
9.5/10.
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I saw it (for free 'natch) and thought it was excellently put together, and should be a big hit on the gay fetish scene.
My one moan was that it was really hard to understand just how hard the climbing is, I've felt some of the (non) holds on kheops and to see it put away like an easy pink was simply not on.
Likewise Duel.
9.5/10.
I watched it over Xmas and whilst I enjoyed it I have similar criticisms.
If the numbers weren't there you'd be forgiven for thinking dual was indeed science friction. For people who aren't as clued up on names etc. (Nat thought it looked piss) its not as easy to identify just how well tyler was performing and I think thats a shame.
Some people I've talked to on this matter have said "but its not the style", the simple fact of the matter is that one glimpse at the foot holds and that crimp gets rid of any doubt about how hard the problem actually is.
I hated the explosion bit at the start but thats just me.
The chalkbag on the other hand was incredibly well done.
I think all of the complaints or comments re: the text in L'etranger has been addressed.
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Yeah the explosion thing was poor, very (p)out of character, but on a more construtive note seeing people do some say good 7's before being fucking shut down on what Landman cruises with some close ups would give a true impression as to just how hard these problems are.
For example have you looked down on the rop of karma when it isn't marked like a landing strip?
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I saw it over Christmas too and would echo the above. Really enjoyed the film, totally psyched to go to Font and get schooled on the apparently infinite variety of goodness, but would have liked to have seen close ups of the holds to see how ridiculously hard Tyler was crushing.
That said, I imagine a large part of that is Keith just being Keith and not a whole film crew with a load of equipment and rigs so he can hang halfway down boulders etc. (As an aside I felt that the same problem occurred on Echo Wall (which I didn't enjoy half as much as Between the Trees but) I would have liked close ups of the holds to see that it was E12 F8c+ ridiculous; clearly the McLeods didn't have the equipment/technology for these kind of shots). Hopefully if enough people invest in this film Unc will make some moolah to make more films with better equipment, because actually he's damn good at it.
Loved that chalk bag chucking sequence, and outtakes too. My trips abroad tend to be more like the 'Frustration' sequence on the extras rather than Ty's beastly crushing.
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I noticed the pseudo sit starts as well but I guess they don't make that much difference. I was more concerned at Tyler not wearing his seat belt :lol:
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got the dvd just before my christmas trip to font. It is a testament to the crushing powers of one very understated Mr Landman. As the weather was so utterly shit during our trip i think we managed to visit a lot of the problems shown and can say without doubt that it makes your visit more entertaining when you actually see these things in the flesh. I say good on you keith for keeping some of the magic and intrigue in it for the rest of us by not covering every mm of rock.
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here here.jesus the film is the funniest piss take /hard climbing film since ben and jerry and simon filmed the real thing.if you dont believe me all the interviews in "the forest" were all done in london because they forgot in france
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I just found an application for my macbook where I can have films as my desktop background. currently got between the trees on constantly. Genious.
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er...could you share that with me?
ta.
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and me please!
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I saw it (for free 'natch) and thought it was excellently put together, and should be a big hit on the gay fetish scene.
My one moan was that it was really hard to understand just how hard the climbing is, I've felt some of the (non) holds on kheops and to see it put away like an easy pink was simply not on.
Likewise Duel.
9.5/10.
I watched it over Xmas and whilst I enjoyed it I have similar criticisms.
If the numbers weren't there you'd be forgiven for thinking dual was indeed science friction. For people who aren't as clued up on names etc. (Nat thought it looked piss) its not as easy to identify just how well tyler was performing and I think thats a shame.
Some people I've talked to on this matter have said "but its not the style", the simple fact of the matter is that one glimpse at the foot holds and that crimp gets rid of any doubt about how hard the problem actually is.
I hated the explosion bit at the start but thats just me.
The chalkbag on the other hand was incredibly well done.
I think all of the complaints or comments re: the text in L'etranger has been addressed.
I've finally got round to watching this having been bought it (at my request) for my birthday. To be honest I'm dissapointed. I just found the whole thing pretty boing. I didn't feel involved, everything is filmed from so far away, very detatched, and mainly static you don't get a sense of how bad the holds are, how hard the climbing is, how hard the climber is trying or anything. The vast majority of the problems you don't see a single facial expression - its like trying to have a one-way conversation with someone witohut making eye contact.
The music is also overpowering, for the most part you can't hear any sounds of holds being hit or slapped or any grunts of effort (I had a similar beef with HTTP:BLOC in this respect) - I don't know if this is because the music drowns it out or because there aren't any cos the camera is too far away from the action to pick up the sound. Having thought etranger was poor (when I get need 2gig of space on my mahcine this will be the first thing to go) I really tried hard to come into this with an open mind and enjoy it, I sat down psyched for some font action, bearing in mind i'd forfeited £14s worth of birthday present to get it I really wanted to like this. I got to about 16mins30 before i twitched and went to reach for the remote to hit FFwd but i stopped myself. By a minute or so later I couldn't help anymore and fastforwarded though large chunks of it.
The explosion thing at the start was just weird, I didn't rate it. The chalkbag bit was very well done technically, but didn't feel it added anything to the film, I didn't make sense or seem to have any purpose except as a nod to Yeah Right, and it worked better in Yeah Right for my money.
The bit I liked this best were the ones where you could actually see faces and closeup shit, like apparement etc.
Of course it may grow on me in subsequent viewings but to be honest I don't think it'll get the chance. Its just too slow, detatched and ultimately, just, well, boring. I never thought I'd say that about one of the world's best climbers climbing in the world's best climbing area.
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i think you have to remember unkle is not a pro and has not the same logistics.as he turns pro it will only get better.no one pulls pritch for one summer because he was just getting started and now its seminal
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logistics and "pro" aren't anything to do with it as far as i can see.
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i agree with the points you made dave.if you can do a better job with the same finance and camera get ye to the forest i await the results with the same anticipation as btt.if not give the guy chance to improve.i am sure he learnt a lot from pritch whilst there
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I recently saw this too, and whilst I like the music and the climbing, I also agree with some of the points raised previously by dave and others:
- There wasn't enough close up shots of the holds
- Not enough capturing of the expressions of Tyler on the problems (audio and visual)
There are things that work in favour of doing this. For example, keeping the intrigue and trying to evoke some curiosity in people for the first point.
The second point may just well be from the fact that Uncle didn't get the opportunity to (visually) simply because Tyler managed to send them very quickly! Plus, not having a second person/hd camera to be able to capture this may be a factor. Of course this presumes that he only has one hd cam/himself to do this.
These points take something away from the film. That said, I am deaf so I did not follow the talking at all and just ffwd to the climbing. The climbing was very impressive and I enjoyed watching Tyler and Uncle on the problems.
Make no mistake, I thought it was great, just you can't always cater to everyone needs.
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if you can do a better job with the same finance and camera get ye to the forest i await the results with the same anticipation as btt.if not give the guy chance to improve.
Sorry I didn't realise you have to be francis ford coppola to pass comment on a film these days. How am I not giving him chance to improve? If I pretended I loved it, how would that help him?
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i agree with the points you made dave.if you can do a better job with the same finance and camera get ye to the forest i await the results with the same anticipation as btt.if not give the guy chance to improve.i am sure he learnt a lot from pritch whilst there
Agree with Dave that anyone can write a review. He didn't like it and went into detail why. Nothing wrong with that.
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Can I review dave's review?
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Can I review dave's review?
Only if you've paid dollar to read it.
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this is a good point. WIthout honest feedback from people who arent scared to come forward and give it then the filmmaker is left thinking everything is brilliant and they do the same again - to a smaller and smaller audience.
To be honest, if you're not big and ugly enough to be able to take onboard CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, you shouldnt release things to the public domain.
I thought Dave's review was honest and fair enough. Its pretty much what I said when I first watched it. On the other Dave looks too much like the count from the muppets for my liking.
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Can I review dave's review?
Only if you've paid dollar to read it.
I'll buy that for a dollar.
Actually, will I bollocks. (Sorry BenF)
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Keith said he welcomed constructive criticism anyway.
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The climbing wasn't hard enough in my opinion