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shootin' the shit / Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
« Last post by teestub on Today at 01:04:33 pm »
lol, I care not about Trump, I do find it odious that people who have, IMO, behaved very badly over the past 4 years, think they're on the side of 'good'

You’ve mentioned this a couple of times now, would you like to elucidate on which behaviour you found so bad?
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news / Re: significant repeats
« Last post by PeteHukb on Today at 12:59:33 pm »
Amazing. Hard to comprehend, really.
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shootin' the shit / Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
« Last post by ToxicBilberry on Today at 12:52:32 pm »
lol, I care not about Trump, I do find it odious that people who have, IMO, behaved very badly over the past 4 years, think they're on the side of 'good', I'm not sure what 'dark road' you think I'm on that could get any darker than the recent fuckery. I'd be interested to see RFK Jr take power, his book 'The real Anthony Fauci' is a riveting read. wait for it..... MISINFORMATION!!!!  :wall: 
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shootin' the shit / Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
« Last post by seankenny on Today at 12:25:25 pm »
Remarkably, everyday I can read any number of new criticisms of Biden and his party from a left or liberal viewpoint. The world is swimming in such takes.

But you have to rehabilitate Trump because you’re fellow travellers down a dark and unpleasant road.
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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024
« Last post by ToxicBilberry on Today at 11:48:01 am »
Back to the election - the pundits at Unherd seem to agree with my analysis. I’d can also recommend the Peter Singer interview ‘how to live better’


https://youtu.be/tfDJq-whDac?feature=shared
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shootin' the shit / Re: U-S-A! The American Politics Thread.
« Last post by ToxicBilberry on Today at 11:40:14 am »
This is part of the problem, the apparent lack of reflective ability by the modern lib-tard to recognise their own failings. Use the force Luke!
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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024
« Last post by mrjonathanr on Today at 11:37:25 am »
The forum is a bit much right now. I’m going to step back a bit.
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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024
« Last post by mrjonathanr on Today at 11:29:47 am »
I really don't want to get drawn into a detailed argument about the rights and wrongs of Russia and Ukraine etc. My overarching view is that we shouldn't hope to be "world police". We neither know nor understand foreign situations as well as the people living there and we should focus on sorting ourselves out and just trying to be good neighbours whenever possible.

This seems to be having your cake and eating it, where you want to be non interventionist but don’t want to say that UK should have just let Putin crack on in Ukraine. Or maybe being in Europe, we are being a ‘good neighbour’ to Ukraine?

Quote from: Anthony Eden, January 19, 1937
Intervention in the Spanish Civil War may, and I am afraid will, prolong the horrors of that war and increase the sufferings of the unhappy Spanish people. For that reason, and others, we have been from the first opposed to it, and are so still.
https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1937/jan/19/mr-edens-statement

The ambition to not ‘prolong the suffering of the Spanish people’ did not end well. Franco’s dictatorship endured from 1 April 1939 till his death on 20 November 1975. Repression continued throughout Franco’s dictatorship. Spain is the country with the most unmarked graves globally, after Cambodia.

Non-intervention was a boon for the fascists.

A significant difference with Ukraine of course, is that it was an internal conflict, limited by a country exhausted at its end and with no desire to fight beyond its borders, taking no part in the Second World War.

Putin’s Russia is expansionist, powerful, supported by allies in China and Iran and consumed by a hatred of NATO and the West.The ‘rights and wrongs’ are not complex here. It’s a war of aggression. I think we know enough to see that non-intervention will not end anything. War will come to us if we sit on our hands over Ukraine.
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music, art and culture / Re: Books...
« Last post by Falling Down on Today at 10:45:50 am »
(Not a dig FD, love your reviews and some of these do look great, I've just bought notes on complexity)

Hehe thanks Duma. I’ll be interested to hear what you make of it.
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music, art and culture / Re: Books...
« Last post by Falling Down on Today at 10:39:23 am »
That’s a great book Dolly.

On McGilchrist, I agree with you about the second half of Master and his Emmisary. It would have been a better book without that.
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