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places to visit => uk and eire => Topic started by: r-man on October 29, 2007, 02:30:25 pm
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...Near Rochdale. Checked it out a couple of weeks ago with GCW. Nice low to mid-grade bouldering, lots of easy bits and pieces. One or two projects (very few though). We climbed everything in the first area, plus some stuff in other areas, but there was still plenty we didn't manage to get round in one day. I'm not saying there's loads to do - each area contains maybe 20 mostly easy problems, and there are about 4 areas - but there's enough to have a good day, as long as you aren't in search of hard stuff.
Photos taken on my mobile phone. Amazing for such a small lens.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/1520561526_87899b4930.jpg?v=0)
...View of first area. GCW on an excellent ft6b arete. And again:
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Easier stuff
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burly 6c sitter. / excellent 6b slab
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Excellent 6c sitter slap move.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/1519710071_44a92dda43.jpg?v=0)
Another sitter to a small wall. 6c/7a ish. / Sitter fridge hugging project
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2231/1519712313_a861fe2229.jpg?v=0)
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1. Cheers. I look like a cock in every single picture there :lol:
2. Marc C is gonna kill you though :o
3. It's called Blackstone Edge, no s.
4. It's here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=littleborough&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.014453,66.445312&ie=UTF8&ll=53.644593,-2.042878&spn=0.004134,0.008111&t=k&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=1)
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1. This is quite an achievement, especially as you aren't in them all.
2. He seemed nice enough. And assured me the machete was purely ornamental.
3. True, Nik led me astray on the other thread. No "s". No "Edge" either. That bit refers to the edge.
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A short video of R-man on a crimpy wall, probably around 6c+.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kbmCrVp0w
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Spelling nazis....
Crimpy wall is very generous at 6c+ IMHO, the wall round to the left of this problem is ace (with the sloper/pocket). In fact this block and the 6b slab block both have three or four excellent problems on them. The arete right of the slab is a doozie. All low/mid grade stuff, but great problems.
Where is the fridge hugger? And ll the sitting slapper probs? And is the 6c/7a short wall sitter the same as the one in the video? If not where's that?
Nice place, I'll be back definitely...
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What grade did you reckon? I really couldn't tell. Didn't try wall to left. Was it a sitter?
In the clip, you can hear people in the background enjoying the doozie of which you speak. (It is good, you're right.)
Fridge hugger is left of the 6b arete in my first photos. 6c/7a is on very short wall up and left of these blocks. Starts on strangely featured rock. Sloper may feel easy on a cold day (it was boiling when we were there).
6c slap problem is directly above/behind arete boulder.
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Nik, PM me your e-mail and I'll help make things clearer.
I plan to be back there sometime soon. I hope.
Give us a grade on that vid please.
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What grade? You're asking me to grade something? Sheesh some people.... I'd say V4 (6b+).
Wall to left would go from a sitter, but is currently far to green so just a one move wonder off the sloper pocket to the top.
To the right and behind those two blocks on the edge there is a really good arete feature which is also brilliant, also goes from a slightly artificial sitter. Right of this are several easy slabs and right of them is small roof to a slab which is good.
Further right there was a really good looking rib/blunt arete with a sporting landing.
Might go back up this week if we get a few days of good weather....
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Further right there was a really good looking rib/blunt arete with a sporting landing.
I saw that - it looked excellent. Such a shame about the disaster lurking beneath.
Other places to check out - up above the 1st area and leftwards over the peat are a couple of good looking overhanging walls, with rounded breaks.
The stuff below the trig point also looks nice, with one or two hard looking highballs that I doubt have been done.
Also, another project - the left end of the anvil block tapers into an undercut nose. Hang this and contrive a skin-searing, knee-shearing, chest-tearing manteling groveling clutching thrutching elegant sequence of moves to surmount the boulder. I predict.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/1520559336_2787ca9d7a.jpg?v=0)
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Nik, is there anything much left of the crag? We didn't really look over that way.
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Yes we did. I recall the rocks of which Nik speaks.
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I'm confused now.
All the stuff I'm talking about is to the right of the 'crag'. The leftmost thing I did was the scoopy wave wall just left of the 6b arete in the first set of photos. Everything else I'm talking about is right of that. So I'm not sure why R-man thinks that knowing what I'm talking about means that you did look to the left of the crag. Or am I missing something? If only marc c would pull his finger out and produce this topo he's been promising since the beginning of time....
I didn't look at anything left of the crag, so probably worth a scout around at some point.
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No, Nik you're right. All this is right of the crag, but I thought thereay have been a few blocks further left.
R-man, we did see the block of which Nik speaks. I too remember.
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I found that scoopy wall left of the 6b arete quite hard, are you both tall?
It was wet which may not have helped...
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I'm not sure why R-man thinks that knowing what I'm talking about means that you did look to the left of the crag.
Oh dear. This is the beauty of the internet. ;)
We saw the blocks to the right. We also looked to the left. This is what I said. ;D
If only marc c would pull his finger out and produce this topo he's been promising since the beginning of time....
We talked to him. He seems to have gone off the idea.
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See if you'd done the post in list format it would have been clear that you were making two sperate statements. You shouldn't be so averse to lists....
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See if you'd done the post in list format it would have been clear that you were making two sperate statements. You shouldn't be so averse to lists....
You're right. Of late I have become listless and feel lost. My mouse is seriously listing. Last and not least, I have listened to your suggestion and I shall henceforth list listing less listlessly lest I list, lost and Liston-like.
I found that scoopy wall left of the 6b arete quite hard, are you both tall?
You mean this?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2279/1520564684_b52781d24d.jpg?v=0)
6b might be right, can't remember. I'm not tall, but as you can see, GCW might be considered so. ;D
Also did a good dyno from horizontal holds to the right, to the top break at about 6c. This is one of those dynos that might be harder for the tall.
By the way, the fridge hugger is to the right in the background of this one...
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Yeah 6b ish sounds right. Although my sequence was different, and I found it quite balancy and technical. But this may have been becasue of the wet...
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Also did a good dyno from horizontal holds to the right, to the top break at about 6c. This is one of those dynos that might be harder for the tall.
Yeah, good spot that one :whistle: And it is a couple of grades harder for the tall, honest.
Yeah 6b ish sounds right. Although my sequence was different, and I found it quite balancy and technical. But this may have been becasue of the wet...
That darned wet again. :boohoo:
I seem to remember that was a bit of a pull on smallish holds and a balance up to the good break. Good problem that one.
Sequence of R-Man's 6c slap:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/1799830765_62e28ef7b2_b.jpg)
That slopey nose thing was hideous that day we went, but it was very hot. Poor friction I guess..... :lol:
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Did I mention I only have little knees, It's a wonder I can walk let alone climb....
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R-Man,
Glad to see people are still exploring the outer Rochdale area. I have done quite a bit of climbing at Blackstone Edge over the years as I used to live in Rochdale. I have done the arete in the first photo, the crimpy wall in the video and all the major lines on the two free standing larger boulders (the 6b slab photo). Plus quite a bit more. There is a good little wall/edge over the back almost directly behind the main crag with a few nice problems - did you get there?
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Yeah, we looked at that but didn't do wny problems. It was more of a scouting mission to see what was available. I plan to head back and check out the other areas. It is an excellent lower grade venue, with a few harder (7a and above) problems thrown in.
You will find R-Man and myself explore a lot of Lancs Esoterica.
Nont Sarah's any good?
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No I haven't checked out Nont Sarah's - let us know what it is like. Spent most of my time at Cow's Mouth / Blackstone Edge / Tonacliffe...
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Was there last week with Sloper and Nik - good venue and some great problems there even for the lower grade of punter like myself - Sloper and myself estimate that there is a circuit consisting of 30ish problems up to English 6a there but this figure was arrived at after 4 pints in the Sheaf so it could be wildly inaccurate. One thing that is not wildly inaccurate is the greenness aspect - "Green as Kermits cock" is an understatement!
I will post up some pics as soon as I find the cable for my camera...
bluebrad
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I intend to get to Nont Sarah's soon, it's on my list. And it's a loooong list.
Not a lot of bouldering at Cow's Mouth, is there? The natural bit is quite good but the quarry ain't too hot for bouldering. I may be wrong as it's a while since I've been.
Is there any bouldering at Tonacliffe?
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Cow's mouth and tonacliffe are good if that is all you have got - when i was younger I didn't have a car so anywhere I could cycle to / get a lift to was fair game. Both venues are good for a short soloing session - cow's mouth doesn't have much in the way of bouldering. Not really worth the walk unless you want to do routes (there is a lone boulder on the moor just before the quarry with a few low-mid grade probs on a big roof but that's it really). There is also grit going down the hill towards summit etc which i have explored a bit - I didn't find that much though but I only did a small bit of exploring. Tonacliffe has a good wall (hand jam crack area) on which I have done lots of eliminates up to around 7B but again it's only worth it if you're near - not worth a half hour+ car journey. Cow's mouth is probably the better of the two in general.
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Nont Sarah's any good?
Is that seriously the name of a crag? Class.
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Nice "right toe blantantly standing on the ground" dab.
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Nice "right toe blantantly standing on the ground" dab.
How dare you. It wasn't touching the floor at all, and I refute the allegation.
It was a foot-swinging-off-before-I-lost-contact position, so there :P
Yeah, it's called Nont Sarah's. Not much info around but people speak good of it. That probably means it's shit.
(http://www.penninesoaringclub.org.uk/penninesites/NONTS2.jpg)
(http://www.penninesoaringclub.org.uk/penninesites/NONTS3.jpg)
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I didn't know that Stephen Gerrard bouldered. :-\
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PLenty of real quality, keen to go back, maybe next week.
A team with a few brushes and some traffic would make all the difference.
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Right, been up there today in the pishing rain. Scouted out a few things, but everything was covered in a layer of lush green slime. It seems to have proliferated since R-man and I visited. There's a few things to have a go at, only a few will be over the 7a mark.
Also, I can confirm that "Nont Sarah's" is an alternative name for the Buckstones. Lots of rock, but not that many problems. The roof of Pig in a Pokey (http://www.yorkshiregrit.com/photo.html?id=buckstones__pig) looks impressive though.
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It really was minging wet. I think the dogs got a cold...
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I can confirm that "Nont Sarah's" is an alternative name for the Buckstones. Lots of rock, but not that many problems.
Really? The map here http://www.yorkshiregrit.com/map.html?id=buckstones looks nothing like the aerial photo you posted earlier. No reservoir for a start. And this is near Ilkley!
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Really? The map here http://www.yorkshiregrit.com/map.html?id=buckstones looks nothing like the aerial photo you posted earlier. No reservoir for a start. And this is near Ilkley!
Buckstones is a small edge on the wild moorland south of the M62. There are around seventy problems here, mostly in the lower grades. The crag is documented in the Huddersfield bouldering guide.
And we saw the problems pictured on the Buckstones page. Where's JonP when we need him? I think that map is wrong.
Nik- sorry bout the dog. Hope the cold gets better soon :lol:
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I was suitably impressed by Blackstone and would be well keen to get back in the future! Pig in a Pokey looks good too, but deceptively juggy? On a slightly related note, West Vale is an ace venue!
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West Vale is an ace venue!
That's not a phrase you hear often, and more's the pity. Not sure if anybody goes anymore, but back in the mid - to late 80s this place was rammed on mid week evenings. My mate Al Bennett used to do 5 laps of the big traverse in a session!
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Pantontino: Yeah, I used to live 20 minutes drive away and it was a great fall-back venue. Overhanging face stayed dry in the rain, most walls were quick drying. The lower rock is good. I'm impressed with lapping that traverse, it's quite long. There's still a fair bit of chalk, so people obviously go there. Some arse has thrown paint on the OH face, which reduces the friction of some of the holds a tad. Shame really.
Maybe we should arrange a Blackstone meet, brushes at dawn.
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I can confirm that "Nont Sarah's" is an alternative name for the Buckstones. Lots of rock, but not that many problems.
Really? The map here http://www.yorkshiregrit.com/map.html?id=buckstones looks nothing like the aerial photo you posted earlier. No reservoir for a start. And this is near Ilkley!
there is buckstones as in bouldering round cleckhuddersfax and an ilkley buckstones.no wonder you spend your lives in dodgy quarries when you don't know the difference between ilkley and huddersfield.
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It seems to me that it's yorkshiregrit that has got mixed up. :-\
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The Jennings and myself had a wander up to Blackstones today. I had a great time, a very good venue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7FXUxLY8bY
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Are the grades subject to a local numerical inconsistency, ie. normal grades +1.3?
Or is it puntering editing techniques?
PS may well be up for a trip Thursday?
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Which are you referring to Slopes? (They are font grades, I assume you realise)
Strangely a lot of the problems which I found hard last time were easy yesterday, so the grades may not be 100%, so other opinions are very welcome.
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Just watched again this time paying attention to the grades and they seem about right to me. But what do I know?
I think the crack could go down half a grade (especially as the lichen disapears), as may the twin aretes if it descrittles (it felt quite sketchy to me, but is easier for the tall, of course I would say that). The other problems all seem about right to me.
Are you saying the grades are too low or high?
Keen to get back on a couple of the 'project' lines so if you are up on thursday let me know (I'll keep you posted on the weather).
And the arete will go one handed (or even with two GCW ;D)
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Keen to get back on a couple of the 'project' lines
Shhh!!! I reckon you'll be back before I will (ie no tips) but I'd be keen to get those 2 things done. If I'm free I'd be keen to get back there.
And the arete will go one handed (or even with two GCW ;D)
Someone had greased it up before I tried it :whistle:
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Don't worry, we can show them to Slopes. He'll never haul his 15 stones of semi digested foie gras up them...
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I think the grades are way too high. Other than the weird slab (font 6a) thing and the pull onto the undercut slab (we did it by a different sequence if I recall due to small vs injured knees, about 6a as well) I can't remember anything being harder than font 5+
Anyway Thursday seems like a go-er, I'll be in touch, as for your project lines I'll crush them like a poorly constructed meringue.
Oh and if you want some foie gras , just let me know I'll bring you a dose.
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The double arete was graded from a floor start, not standing on the boulder which is a couple of grades easier.
R-Man's Slap and Wall certainly aren't 5+.
Anvil Arete may be 5+ if you're tall, I added a grade for shorties. :whistle:
The crack sitter felt 6b+/c to get the pocket with your right, but may be easier when it cleans up more. Going right to the sloper and avoiding the pocket was probably 6b.
Have a look on Thursday and let me know- I am interested in accuracy.
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I don't think we did any of the problems in the video. We did slopy pocket to the top without the sit start.
Have you tried the other problems on another occasion?
R-mans slap and wall are not 5+
Anvil arete is somewhere between 5-ish and very hard depending on your span. 6a is probably a reasonable average.
The crack sitter is going to be somewhere in the 6's, depending on which finish you do and how clean it is.
Check it out on thursday? I would of course take into account that you are a sandbagger...
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I assume your reply was to the goose liver gobbler?
You have an e-mail, Nik.
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Downloading as I type.
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Sorry for the double post from the Non-Quality thread.
I hope this works- first attempt at HD vids online: Lookie here- http://www.vimeo.com/788408 and full screen it for the full effect.
I'll upload a shitty YouTube vid shortly. Enjoy. [feedback welcome]
Nik and I did quite a few problems on the back edge. Some good stuff available. If a little wet here and there :lol:
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YouTube version here for people with slower connections:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDw-PQktkVA
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Another video of the Blackstone bouldering.
Nik repeats Robin's Dyno.
I fail to do it double.
Nik does the FA of an awesome 7a+ traverse. Love the tarp, but there's a bit of a muddy landing here :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PxAysczgH4
HD version here (http://www.vimeo.com/805084).
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Nik on the previously mentioned fridge hugger:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2347707771_528da2616e_b.jpg)
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Nice shot! Making any progress on this? Looks a lot cleaner now!
Liking the tarp also. Ray Mears would be proud.
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Not really :)
The start and finish are both fine, but the middle couple of moves just aren't happening right now.
But once I return with some steely Font beouf it will fall like a world record domino attempt, oh yeah...
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Assuming it doesn't get done whilst you're away. :whistle:
Which is a fairly safe assumption
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You really want to add it to your already lengthy list of things to go back and actually do?.... :)
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Next time.
Fucking next time.
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You want to watch out, i've got my eyes on it!
but yeah, a safe enough assumption that it'll be safe
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Nik's Traverse is such a good problem I thought it merited a better video. Unfortunately, this (http://www.vimeo.com/812863) was the best I could come up with. :thumbsdown:
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Another YouTube quality version for people with slow PCs (Andi_e)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Bjzh9bXdg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Bjzh9bXdg
Is there any problems on the boulder with the pod, behind and to the left? Remember playing on that last summer.
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Yes. Left arete 5+
Middle of Slab 6a (see other vid)
Right Arete 6a ish
Left arete round corner- hard project
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Three pics that I took on a trip to Blackstones with Nik at Work and Sloper.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2357831912_e022432cb2.jpg?v=0)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2161/2356996299_12b6268ee8.jpg?v=1206358628)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2356996435_ff193b13e9.jpg?v=1206358561)
If any one can supply names (and grades?) for these then I will update the photos accordingly.
bluebrad
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Yes. Left arete 5+
Middle of Slab 6a (see other vid)
Right Arete 6a ish
Left arete round corner- hard project
Left arete 5 tops
Middle of Slab 6a+ (I'm short)
Right arete 5 tops (GCW is a techniqueless donkey - meant in the nicest possible way :))
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Left arete 5 tops
Middle of Slab 6a+ (I'm short)
Right arete 5 tops (GCW is a techniqueless donkey - meant in the nicest possible way :))
The left arete I stay round left. It's far easier if you rock round right onto the slab when you can.
Slab is a tad height dependant. 6a was the short arse grade ;)
6a ish, I said. I always find it tough. Hee haw, hee haw.
Bluebrad:
First photo- Nik and I did this as "Crack Left"- SDS, get pocket with right, hit top. Prob 6b/+ (see previous vid for beta etc)
We also did the same SDS, but avoided the pocket and slapped the sloper out right at 6a+/b.
Pic 2: SDS on crimp and blob, pull on, top out. Probably 6b+ again. (We gave it 6c/+ when R-man and I went, but the conditions were cra- see first vid on thread- felt easy the last couple of visits.
Pic 3: Seen this arete but not tried it.
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Here ya go:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2358459869_539d710f17.jpg)
1. Project- Arete and thin seam/ crack. Rubbish landing, and a bit of a disappointment.
2. Left arete (5)- Start on the left and move right when it makes sense.
3. Slab (6a)- Middle of the slab. Good. No crack or arete makes for the best problem.
4. Right Arete (5+)- Technical arete :-[
5. Slab (4)- Easy and a bit rubbish.
6. Left Arete SDS (5+)- Nice moves, hardest is getting established.
7. Crack Left (6b+)- SDS the crack. Get the pocket with your right, then up.
8. Crack Right (6b)- SDS the crack. No pocket, slap out right to the sloper and then the top.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/2359294702_e7dbd0a878.jpg)
9. Right Arete (6a)- Good Moves from a sitter.
10. Wall (6b+)- SDS on a good crimp. Reach the good break, then up.
11. Nik's Traverse (7a+)- SDS the right arete, then traverse left without using the top to finish around the arete left of problem 5. Excellent, and I'm starting to think 7b is a more realistic grade. But I don't have stamina. Or technique.
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Bluebrad your last pic is about 6a+ (although sloper will tell you it's a 4)
GCW you do have some stamina and technique, you just hide it very well under a layer of lank...
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You, Mr at work, are a cheeky fecker :lol:
Having spent 2 days sandpapering my tips, I may be OK to head back in a week or so. But you'll be gaining boeuf en Bleau.
So there'll be some (http://www.iconarchive.com/icons/icehouse/smurf/Papa-Smurf-icon.gif)
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Nice smiley, very nice.
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Enjoyed this circuit a lot. Thought it almost comparable to Thorn Crag and great for anyone based in Manchester.
Climbed most of what was already posted. Liked Nik's arete although climbed it a bit more head on and enjoyed the short easy climbs on the crag at the right-hand area.
Few more lines all on the Pocket Arete block, possibly already done .
1. Excellent 6c ish dyno. From middle of break (obvious depression) dyno with left for the runnel. If you let your hands wander leftwards it makes it a bit easier. This is what I imagined Crash and Gurn at Burbage WAS going to be like.
2. RH version of the above, again 6c ish. From break left foot heal-toe break, left hand crap intermediate sloper, left hand crimp, match crimp, top (slightly scary mantle).
3. Good 6a ish line right of Pocket Arete coming straight out of the small roof.
Thought with these it makes the top area the best at the crag. No photos/vids but fairly obvious.
All the peat was dry so no need for tarp and no green in sight, must be getting a bit of traffic. Great place to visit on a summer morning/evening. Will recommend.
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Do you mean that small sharp crimp? We were trying to dyno/slap to it with our right, but it was hard to catch and felt a bit sharp for a dynamic grab.
There are also a couple of low starts on the next block to the left, not classics but add to the circuit.
Also a few problems on a block further left (obvious brushed holds) which are good.
Did you try them?
Did you do the traverse on the blocks at the far right (Niks Traverse, as christened by GCW)?
And most importantly did you do the fridge hugger project?
Also the dyno left of the fridge hugger is really good fun if you didn't try it.
GCW would be keen to hear your opinion on grades I would have thought...
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Yes sharp crimp. Coming up to match with right hand was the crux for me and a great move (all on the heal toe). I started trying your method (right hand first) but deferred to my forte, the gay leg.
Played on anything I could get my hands to on the upper tier.
Thought the traverse was very good (and I don't usually enjoy them), took me a while to work the moves and I finished up the wall after the sloper as I didn't have the patience to watch the video to the end.
Fidge hugger project is safe, felt a bit beyond me. Like you said just that middle move. I was trying to sit all my weight on a right foot on arete but it was beyond the limit of my flexibility and the foot popped every time so . . .
I'm not great on grades but most of what has been stated seemed reasonable. I lanked the curved wall and the double arete and could do them both at about 5+ but with a little 'proper' climbing the grades felt about right. Lots of the problems esp. upper tier seemed to be around 6b/c range, which meant for my level there was a certain amount of beta/technique that was required. Satisfying comes to mind.
There seemed a huge potential for mantle enthusiasts.
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Nice one, a quality venue IMHO. It does seem to have cleaned up nicely since I first went there, hopefully it remains popular enough to stay clean without getting so popular it gets trashed (a la Kebs). I'll definitely be going back up there again.
Gay leg, it's the future.....
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Glad to hear others are heading up there. Good venue.
Opinions on grades most welcome.
I shall have to drag myself back sometime.
As far as the crimp thing left of pocket arete goes, Nik and I were being very strict. Probably better if you arent, but we avoided getting near the arete, so the obvious heel/toe out right was out. Making it tricky for no reason. :lol:
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The heal toe was to the left so you end up falling into the crimp with the left hand. The arete and the runnel are never even considered.
Like yourselves I started strict and only tried the above for a laugh.
There's no reason to doubt that doing it with a RF heal toe wouldn't also work.
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doing it with a RF heal toe wouldn't also work.
I assume you mean "would work"?
We were just being wimps as it was the end of the day, with no skin, and we didn't fancy slapping that sharp crimp.
The groove thing on the vid is good without the left arete too, prob about 7a/+ according to Nik.
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Would/wouldn't, tomato/tomato.
Had another great evening up here again last night, the light was amazing.
Reclimbed everything with a single addition (that judging by the chalk is a bit of a path for locals).
Font 7a (maybe). Climbs the wall in-between the project arete and the easy arete on the Hueco boulder. I thought this was excellent and very conditions dependant. LH side pull, RH sloper, pull on, slap up grove on less than good footholds, lauch for the top. Very independent of both aretes as the climbing is forced up the grove in a very logical way.
I have taken some piiss poor photos badly illustrating the climbs on the top boulder. Consensus was 6c for both problems on the pocket wall and 6a+ for the one to the right of Pocket Arete. The dyno is nice and explosive.
I's also recommend full winter gear for when the sun goes down.
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I've not uploaded photos in the new format. Could someone kindly post a link to a step by step guide. Can photos be uploaded direct from a hard-drive or do they need hosting (a la fliker etc.)?
Thanks.
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They need hosting. I'll be interested to see what you have done.
I think your 7a is something I've tried before. Not sure.
Here's Slack--Line's excellent How To (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,6411.0.html) guide to photo embedding.
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Thanks for the How To, took the easy option and used Facebook. Not missing much if you can't see them.
The 6a+ to the right of Pocket Arete
(http://photos-182.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v253/246/97/643765182/n643765182_2984699)
Left line = dyno from middle hold, right line = 'gay leg' 6c wall.
(http://photos-182.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v253/246/97/643765182/n643765182_2984698)
I had a brief play on the 7a wall the last time I was up but it was tres chaud. The moves are ace and it's very body tension dependant. The best problem there IMHO, felt nice n' ard and a great feeling topping out.
Didn't spend any time on the fridge hugger.
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Easy option . . for a monkey perhaps!
Facebook linking same as Flickr just past the hyperlink in between the [img] brackets.
THought i had better photos, including the 7a wall but it appears the camera had other ideas.
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Here ya go:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2358459869_539d710f17.jpg)
1. Project- Arete and thin seam/ crack. Rubbish landing, and a bit of a disappointment.
2. Left arete (5)- Start on the left and move right when it makes sense.
To be a bit clearer (but not much), the 7a line goes in between 1. and 2. in the photo. The fact the RH arete (prob 2.) is 'nearby' doesn't detract from the climb at all and using the arete foothold would probably only make it harder.
I'm sure there's more potential up there possibly on the crag itself and will be returning shortly. In the mean time I'll be mostly joining Flickr to ease this linking malarky.
Any aspirations for a small guide? There seems to be a load of stuff already compiled on this thread.
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GCW is putting info together (but he's on holiday right now). This place has really got its hooks in you hasn't it?
Let us know when you're next planning a trip up there I'm sure myself and GCW would happily tag along if available (as an added inducement GCW is willing to lug a pretty big mat up that hill, and I generally come pre-stocked with enough flapjack to feed a small country....)
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There's only so many times you can do the back wall traverse at Hobson Moor plus the drive/walk in is comparable to Wimberrry for me. Given all the green that's been talked about I think I'll carry on taking advantage of the dry summer evenings. (But yes, all this rationalising is just a thinly veiled cover for my true feelings.)
If the weather stays like this I'll likely head back at the beginning of next week, will let you know.
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Try those photos again
The 6a+ to the right of Pocket Arete
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/2507528083_17d07d64af_o.jpg)
Left line = dyno from middle hold, right line = 'gay leg' 6c wall.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2507528229_da473ed729.jpg)
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Revisited on Saturday. Baltic conditions again (sleet) even as early as 5pm. Gorgeous setting up here.
Climbed the project arete on the Hueco booulder in a very straight on fashion that seemed the most logical way to me. Two great moves followed by a tricky topout. Probably Font 6b. Climbed this way the landing's a flat rock platform i.e. tres safe.
Nik and GCW: were you trying this as a strict LH arete? Hopefully photos make sense to you.
Mobile camera shots. I gave the climbs names because I was bored.
Hueco Arete 2 sequence
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2583070187_e6d276ccbd_m.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2583898294_fea9c5fa93_m.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2583959682_db4c3fafff_m.jpg)
Ape Hour (7a+ felt more realistic, very conditions dependent)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2583115343_8f02e00646.jpg)
Gumming to victory
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2583113741_debdb3e1a3.jpg)
There's two obvious starting slopers for the RH, any further right the arete jugs come into play. These are the only holds eliminated.
Polly Pocket (6c wall up top) The right foot heal toe also works but effectively uses the arete. In my mind this was the most obvious way to climb the wall in between the dyno and the arete. It's great fun.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2583071493_e913c467ac_m.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2583900368_63e130cb30_m.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2583900078_057f760b0b_m.jpg)
The dyno matches the LH starting holds on the above and lunges for the runnel. Probably 6b+.
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Amazing conditions for June! Ape Hour looks great, looking forward to getting on it someday.
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2583070187_e6d276ccbd_m.jpg)
All looks good.
When I tried that arete, I stood on the ground- are you doing a sitter from the mat? To be honest I never tried it much, didn't really bother to pull on. Have to have another look.
There's a couple of other lines need doing. Have you tried the fridge hugger SDS?
I guess I could finish off the mini-guide, if people are interested in it. It'll need adjusting anyway, consideriong the new things being done.
Would you host it on SLB, R-man?
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Any photos of this 'fridge-hugger project'?
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Amazing conditions for June! Ape Hour looks great, looking forward to getting on it someday.
I was there from 5-7pm and chalk was a bonus, not essential even though the middle photos would suggest otherwise.
So long as there's a breeze (can't imagine there not being up there) I'd say climbing in the early evening is possible, or even preferable, throughout all the summer months (peat's dry).
Didn't climb at the fridge hugger area. Anyhow sleet/rain was passing in waves so I knackered myself out quick climbing like a Rage victim.
Spotted the Roman road for the first time ..... Nice!
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Any photos of this 'fridge-hugger project'?
Page 1 and 3 have photos. Page 1 photo shows block to the left that encroaches quite heavily on the line. This doesn't/shouldn't effect how it climbs.
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I am like sooo obsessed.
Camera phone footage:
Pocket Dyno: http://www.vimeo.com/1181492 (http://www.vimeo.com/1181492)
Polly Pocket: http://www.vimeo.com/1181479 (http://www.vimeo.com/1181479)
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Pocket Dyno we did from a sitter to the left, more directly to the pocket- it's in one of the vids from before.
Polly Pocket- we didn't put our feet that high. Blinkered I guess. :lol:
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Pocket Dyno we did from a sitter to the left, more directly to the pocket- it's in one of the vids from before.
I saw the left hand straight-up line as the left hand version and the dyno as the right hand version. Plus that bowl/runnel had to be jumped to, it just so happened to be a good move (although the video makes it look like more of a reach :-\). I hope you give it a crack.
Polly Pocket- we didn't put our feet that high. Blinkered I guess. :lol:
I tend to work backwards in this respect, I find it more than often makes up for a lack of strength.
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Any aspirations for a small guide? There seems to be a load of stuff already compiled on this thread.
Right, due to popular demand I've done a topo. Work very much in progress, but it's to be found on this thread (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9399.msg152216.html#msg152216).
Enjoy.
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2583070187_e6d276ccbd_m.jpg)
Just realised you are more round the left than I was trying. I started as a stand up with my left hand on the crap arete at the level of your left foot and shunned all holds left of the arete. In retrospect, your method is probably the more sensible. Felt pretty hard my way, damned blinkers again :lol:
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Anyone know owt about this?
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=317562&v=1 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=317562&v=1)
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Assuming the sun comes out tomorrow, will it be a good day for Blackstone, or will it be either too green or ridiculously cold?
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Hi mate.
I'd suspect it'll need a good drying day before a decent visit. The last forecast wasn't great either.
If you go there'll be some stuff to do, and feedback on the topo will be useful.
Have fun!
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went up there a couple of weeks ago.topo works well graham.
we did a couple of things not on the topo on the back edge.mike grey did a sit start just left of the flake,its probably really a sit start to the flake going of a pocket and undercut to a tiny side pull but he avoided the flake and went to the top.andy swann did a sit start to 6b+ left of this niks arete i think.
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Who's Graham?
Send me details/ post them here and I'll (eventually) add them to the topo.
Nice that people are getting up there. What did you think of topo grades? Some are doubtless miles off.
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sorry gareth.a monday morning moment.the grades seemeed ok to me.when you say details do you mean names, grades etc.the s/s to niks arete is about 7a.the s/s up the wall of the flake is probably 7bish.
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Nik's arete and the LH variant were both sitters anyway, but I don't remember them being anywhere near 7a. The sneaky heel-toes were the secrets!!
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you don't describe n.a. as a sitstart in the topo.it felt about 3 grades harder than niks groove that is in at 7a.
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We did it from a sitter, I'll change the topo. 3:55 on this vid:
http://www.vimeo.com/788408 (http://www.vimeo.com/788408)
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Wierd, because I felt Niks Groove (not my naming policy by the way :)) was way harder than the arete. Sneaky right foot heel toe on the arete makes the sitter pretty reasonable whereas the groove felt desperate to me. We were starting sat down, left foot way under the low roof, right heel hooking next to hands, slap left up to poor sloper then right up to side pull. I thought it was hard. Oh well different strokes and all that...
Nice little venue though docha' think? Shame it's a bit spread out and the boulders are generally a move or two too small.
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we climbed the groove direct.right toe on the lip,left leg flagging underneath,hands matched on the crimp go with either hand for the side pull.it required a bit of epileptic twitching to get lift off for me.
yes it is a nice venue but as you say it just doesn't quite achieve what it promises.
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A-ha, I couldn't reach the side pull so had to use the poor sloper. Did you try/do the fridge hugger project?
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with the arete it wasn't the sit start that was the problem for me.it was the reach for the little pocket that kept throwing me off.
andy and mike tried the fridge,they reckoned that using your knee was key but they couldn't stand the pain.at one point andy was trying with a towel tied round his knee.he looked like reject from a adam and ants video.
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Awesome, I personally think there is a distinct lack 80's homage amongst modern boulderers...
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Just briefly resurecting this thread to mention that I climbed the Fridge Hugger Project today. I'm proposing a grade of 7B+ but with the caveat that it felt harder to me but I'd already done a fair bit of climbing so could be easier. Also I think my technique will be nails for the tall.
Beta:
Right and left hand on good starting hold, left hand out to not so good hold just left oof right arete, right foot on dimple under roof, left foot on obvious foothold on face just right of left arete, wild hip dislocating slap with left hand to hold on left arete just above left foot. Slap right hand across to right arete and push down, rock hard onto left foot, bring right foot up next to right hand, stand up and reach to top holds.
Name, Fridge Hugger even though i didn't do a single fridge hugging move!
Right this thread can sink back to obscurity....
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Nice one, Beaumont. Your sequence sounds thoroughly unpleasant though!
Will have to get back to Blackstone one of these days. I'm sure there are still one or two projects left...
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Ape Hour (7a+ felt more realistic, very conditions dependent)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2583115343_8f02e00646.jpg)
Gumming to victory
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2583113741_debdb3e1a3.jpg)
Went up there today, cold as fuck but ice on a lot of stuff so not great conditions. I had a look at Ape Hour- I can reach the upper LH sidepull to pull on, not that it makes any difference. I was stepping on, RF on a higher (rubbish foothold) and slap LH to the icy top. Admittedly I didn'r do it but it's a cool move and felt 7a/+ but would be hard if you're any shorter. I will be heading back sometime, still a few things to go at.
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Oh, forgot to say that the way R-man and I originally tried this was without the hold on the right- we were basically trying to laback the holds you use for the left hand. We obviously had our blinkers on that day.
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Back up there yesterday in the mist with a small group, including Bruce Goodwin and Gordon who have climbed there for 40 years.
We had a good compare of notes, and general chat about first ascents. It seems a lot of what Nik at Work, R-man and myself did is new. Nick Conway was active up there a long while back, having climbed what is now referred to as Nik's Traverse and Ape Hour.
Repeats of Nik at Work's Fridge Hugger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8CebBxq3pc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8CebBxq3pc#ws)
I've got some footage which I will put online soon(ish).
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It was a top day, despite the clag. A team of 7 at Blackstone Edge! Think that might be unusual, but perhaps I'm wrong.
Cleaned and climbed two things that may or may not have been done before. Either way, they are worth adding to the circuit.
The wall left of the 5+ curving arete (behind the hueco block) - a sitter to this would be tough, but looks almost possible
http://peakbouldering.info/problems/3707 (http://peakbouldering.info/problems/3707)
The wall just right of the arete on the Lower block.
http://peakbouldering.info/problems/3708 (http://peakbouldering.info/problems/3708)
Liked Fridge Hugger. Just re-read Nik's beta and it sounds like a completely different method to mine or Gareth's, left facing rather than right facing. Nice that it can be done so many different ways.
Beta:
Right and left hand on good starting hold, left hand out to not so good hold just left oof right arete, right foot on dimple under roof, left foot on obvious foothold on face just right of left arete, wild hip dislocating slap with left hand to hold on left arete just above left foot. Slap right hand across to right arete and push down, rock hard onto left foot, bring right foot up next to right hand, stand up and reach to top holds.
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Nick Conway was active up there a long while back, having climbed what is now referred to as Nik's Traverse and Ape Hour.
Any idea what year/era?
Also, Bruce pointed out a tough looking move from a slopey shelf beneath the trig point - originally done static, though looks like a nice little non eliminate dyno. Will be interesting to check this out sometime.
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I tried that dyno, hard not to dab.
Blackstone Edge 20.11.11 (http://vimeo.com/32454888)
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Aye it was a quality day out, I'd forgotten how much stuff there is to do there, so much stuff to go back and do! I'd forgotten all about this thread actually, so thought I'd add a vid I did on a visit last year, anyone who's not been yet, it's definitely worth a visit
<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/12131271" width="400" height="320" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12131271">Blackstone Edge bouldering</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1109686">Rick Ginns</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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I walked past that scoop you were both dyno-ing on. Was one thing I wanted to go back for - to me it looked like a funky rockover/mantel job.
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Tried it briefly as a mantel-rockover thing. I was nearly sick.
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Give me a shout next time you're out there gents, keen to have a snoop around.. T
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Should be quite soon, guide work to do!
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A great venue (if you don't mind the walk in), I was up there about a year ago and keep meaning to go back, never got round to trying the problems behind the trig point.
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I thought there was some vague agreement about not describing stuff up there. I'd done a 100+ easier problems right of the crag and a dozen or so in the roadside quarry following an intro from Mark C (and a promise not to list stuff in detail on the web). He will want blood, especially from Sloper who I thought was shown the place by Marc as well.
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Marc C has no problem with the topo - he has helped out in the past. We met up with him back in 2006 I think. He was working on a guide, but never got round to finishing it, so GCW did the honours. Here he is.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2254/1520567404_5859e35217.jpg?v=0[/url])
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R-Man and I met up with Marc when I was doing my 2008 topo, he had no objections. If you look on page one of this thread there's a photo of him.
We have actively sought to lusher with people that have climbed here for Yeats. After the weekend it became evident that between Nik, R-Man and myself we have done a lot more than was previously part of circuits.
The BMC want to include the bouldering in the new guide. Surely it's better that it is based on as much past work as possible?
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We have actively sought to lusher with people that have climbed here for Yeats.
Marc C was particularly good at lushering, though I can't remember what he said about Yeats.
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Bloody AutoCorrect.
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Will you be previewing the guide?
I had a few days there a few years back but would need photo's to go from to say what I did and what I didn't. One thing I've never noticed mentioned on here is the small edge set back from the main edge and first boulders with some amazing sit-start probs.
See what I mean about needing photos :)
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Have you got my topo? May make more sense.
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I've not, but I just had a look at peakbouldering and it suggests that the "back edges" may have been where I was at, the descriptions of some of the problems certainly seem familiar. is your topo still available? i had a look at it a few years ago (and had done some of the stuff on it) but don't remember the back edges being on there
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Blackstone Topo (http://vimeo.com/groups/ukbouldering/file:767)
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Cheers, had a nice look through that. The only ones I can be sure I did that are assigned to someone else rather than just classics of the past are Niks Left and Pocket Dyno, but I'm not too fussed about claiming credit, Russel Bowman could be an old skool legend for all I know.
Interesting that a lot of the stuff I remember on the main edge (an awesome slab and a blocky nose) still don't seem to have had attention, or is there a lot more secret stuff waiting to be added?
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The credits are based on what knowledge we managed to gain, through the mists of history. If you know better, please speak up.
RB did stuff more recently, so if you know it's been done before then I'd be interested to know so details can be accurate.
We only named things that looked filthy and that we weren't aware had been done, basically because a named problem is more likely to get attention than a problem with no name.
As I said in the guide, I am keen to get as much info as possible so credits are accurate and justice can be done.
This latest guide will be selective for the new Brick, so don't expect everything to be included. I think that's good for Blackstone, discovery an adventure is part of the allure.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'll contact MarcC and commiserate the end of an era (he fell off on an old favorite up there and pranged himself last I heard). No one lushered us through the BMC so I'll also check with Ian Carr whats going on.
Well done on the good work btw if it's all out there now.
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Weather for Monday looks great. Assuming this stays the case, I'm heading up there to check out a few projects I spied two weeks ago, and climb the nice looking walls I haven't tried around the trig point area. Anyone care to join me?
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Weather looks alright for tomorrow. Anyone keen?
Happy to show people around - I'm in the process of documenting problems for the lancs guide and there are currently around twenty 7's, loads of 6's and below, and a few projects.
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Weather looks alright for tomorrow. Anyone keen?
Happy to show people around - I'm in the process of documenting problems for the lancs guide and there are currently around twenty 7's, loads of 6's and below, and a few projects.
Hey Rman, I've never been there, but theres been a twitter debate between myself, Grubes and Plattsy about where to go tomorrow.... CYL and Thorn have been bounded around - but this could be an option... Blackstones as in NW of Rochdale? I'll dm you a mobile number...
T
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If the weather's right, it'd be a good day out. But take your wellies and a tarp!
I'm at another kid's party Robin, otherwise I'd be keen.
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Yep, that's the crag. The more the merrier!
Gareth, I think the tarp is only needed for a couple of the back edge blocks and the Nick's Trav boulder. Stuff on the main boulders/slopey top/trig point/end boulders should be fine. Shame you can't come - your kids seem to be partying all year round! :lol:
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They have a far better social life than I do!!
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This thread reminded me - I filmed a couple of nice Blackstone boulders in August. Wind + cloud = perfect conditions in summer...
Blackstone Edge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D11oGSWfE8w#ws)
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Bit too windy up on the moor yesterday, but we did a proper slopey right to left trav of the lip of this wall. Has it been done before? Gareth? About 6B+.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2254/1520567404_5859e35217.jpg)
Also discovered that if it's too windy at Blackstone Edge, Higher Chelburn is a good option. Did a new 7A and 7B+ with Polish Dave, some funky moves.
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From my silly mantel rightwards around the lip? Yes, good fun.
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Leftwards! Didn't try it rightwards. Sure it's much the same though.
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Leftwards! Didn't try it rightwards. Sure it's much the same though.
Plattsy got it first - it traverses R-L hanging the lip from where the chap in the picture started. Hard moves in the middle sharing on a sloper of not a lot... We mooted 6C...
Was good to have a look around - thanks R-Man - it really was too windy to enjoy it properly - another day... Glad you got a good problem or two in at the other place.
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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. :-\
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2254/1520567404_5859e35217.jpg?v=0[/url])
Probably.. Going from Right to Left (is this Rmans leftwards ;) ) from the starting holds for the mantel in the pic above...
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I did a traverse from my mantel (really low ball at the far left end, ass scraper) rightwards along the lip, all the way around to finish up the arête adjacent to the neighbouring boulder. Good value.
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Linking into the 5+ break trav on the downhill face? Grade?
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No, alang the top. Been a while, but was certainly sub-7. 6c?
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No, alang the top. Been a while, but was certainly sub-7. 6c?
Same money then. Good.
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8146.msg377750.html#msg377750 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8146.msg377750.html#msg377750)
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Yes, the hardest bit will be the same section I suspect. Nice though.
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Cracking place up there. Loved the wilderness feel to it.
No surprise the traverse has been done before one way or the other. I'd used up all my sloper beans when I tried it L to R. If it doesn't have a name already Lippy Traverse would be a good name as there's been a bit of chat about it. :)
Found a link to a Blackstones topo on the old UKB vimeo page however you just get a VimeUhOh broken link page. Is this topo available somewhere else?
Spent Saturday night :beer2: and thinking up sequences for that project up from the aforementioned traverse. Currently thinking starting with hands crossed with outside right foot edge on the pebble might work.
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Drop me your e-mail via a PM and I'll send you the topo. Vimeo stopped allowing file attachments a while ago so nothing is online at present.
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Maybe you could upload some of your guides to the ukb wiki?
I'll put the trav down as Lippy Traverse 6C (unless there are objections).
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Maybe you could upload some of your guides to the ukb wiki?
I'll put the trav down as Lippy Traverse 6C (unless there are objections).
Sounds great - or... Lippy traverse from L-R (GCW way) and Traverse Lippy from R-L (Plattsy way) ;)
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Drop me your e-mail via a PM and I'll send you the topo. Vimeo stopped allowing file attachments a while ago so nothing is online at present.
UKB Wiki now permits PDF attachments so could stick things there (perhaps within the pertinent "Venues" section).
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OK, I wasn't aware of that. Is there a size limit, as some of the guides are over 20MB.
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Just stumbled on Poetry Atlas (http://www.poetryatlas.com/) and came across this verse from the Lancashire Burns...
Oh the Wild, Wild Moors
Edwin Waugh
I.
My heart's away in the lonely hills,
Where I would gladly be—
On the rolling ridge of Blackstone Edge,
Where the wild wind whistles free!
There oft in careless youth I roved,
When summer days were fine;
And the meanest flower of the heathery waste
Delights this heart of mine!
Oh, the lonely moors, the breezy moors,
And the stormy hills so free;
Oh, the wild, wild moors; the wild, wild moors,
The sweet wild moors for me.
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Excellent :) I've added a contemporary ending based on Saturday...
Oh the Wild, Wild Moors
Edwin Waugh
I.
My heart's away in the lonely hills,
Where I would gladly be—
On the rolling ridge of Blackstone Edge,
Where the wild wind whistles free!
There oft in careless youth I roved,
When summer days were fine;
And the meanest flower of the heathery waste
Delights this heart of mine!
Oh, the lonely moors, the breezy moors,
And the stormy hills so free;
Oh, tits why these two bouldering mats,
did I bring with me;
Oh, for with this sail I blow everywhere,
unless I doth tread carefully.
Oh, the wild, wild moors; the wild, wild moors,
The sweet wild moors for me.
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:lol:
Can't think why the exclamation Oh, tits doesn't feature in more 19th Century poetry!
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Been up again tonight mooching around the Left Section. Really windy again but enjoyed it. Robin's Slap is brill and oddly felt easier than it's poorer neighbour. :shrug:
The sun peeped out once and using a rocks tripod I grabbed a photo.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/8051152888_1126c169fa_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41040072@N07/8051152888/)
20121003_164111 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41040072@N07/8051152888/#) by Plattsy1979 (http://www.flickr.com/people/41040072@N07/), on Flickr
Climbed a little left hand arete to the left of the anvil from a sitter and a twin arete huggy problem just up behind the aforementioned arete, also from a sitter. They'll have been done before however provided a bit of respite after getting scared on the anvil top outs!
Reckon eliminating the little arete would be a tough sit start, one move dyno up the wall.
Then the rain came!!
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Nice shot.
Have done the sitter arete just left of the anvil - yeah, I looked at the no arete possibility, would be pretty hard.
Don't think I've done the double arete behind that, will have a look next time.
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The double arete problem is probably a 5 or so, maybe easier. Crouching start. Right on the RH arete side pull blobby jug and LH on a greenish sloper.
Moved a block to improve the landing and failed. Couldn't move it back.
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From yesterday afternoons visit:
https://vimeo.com/50793912
I came in from the south - took 25 min each way and is a bit flatter though slightly boggier than the approach from the north. I think its probably 5 min longer..
I also did this problem on the RH side (not in the topo) from a sit. Was good value c.6B maybe a wee bit more. There was also a big block with JB carved into it just to the right of this, which had a few nice probs in the 5's...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/05/beme6u3a.jpg)
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That's a nice problem actually.
There's a lot of stuff been done/ repeated since that old topo. Really needs an update.
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I came in from the south - took 25 min each way and is a bit flatter though slightly boggier than the approach from the north. I think its probably 5 min longer..
Thanks for the info, out of interest, where did you park? I'm assuming near that big antenna and then cross the bridge over the M62?
I've done the North approach before, but might try this next time.
Agree with the Robins Slap problem, probably the one I enjoyed the most when I went along with the slab on the blocks at the far end.
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Yup, from the Mway head south, ignore the tiny road up to the antenna (well you could park there I guess) and go another 150m up the road where there is a huge lay by on the right. The path (its the pennine way) goes from there and you really cant miss it!
I think from the south is actually a bit easier than from the north - no galumphing up the final hill - and once you get past the Mway is slightly sheltered from the wind.. but it is a bit noisier (Motorway) until you're about 1/2 way there.. so coming from the North would give you a better wilderness experience!!
Its also quite fun/odd/thought provoking, crossing the Mway on a foot bridge watching everyone rushing about after you've just had a great boulder/walk.. (though I did then join the rat race 10 min later!)
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Thanks. I'd be coming through Oldham/Denshaw so better than doing the extra mileage through Rochdale/Littleborough to get there.
As you say it's a lung busting approach up the hill from the North, similar to Wimberry in a way.
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Thanks. I'd be coming through Oldham/Denshaw so better than doing the extra mileage through Rochdale/Littleborough to get there.
As you say it's a lung busting approach up the hill from the North, similar to Wimberry in a way.
More of a gentle amble from the south :) Though crossing the Mway bridge could be a bit spicy with a mat in full wind!
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I've walked over that way a few times when it's windy, it's very exposed. The waves get up really high on Green Withens reservoir, I've seen people wind surfing on there a couple of times.
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I also did this problem on the RH side (not in the topo) from a sit. Was good value c.6B maybe a wee bit more. There was also a big block with JB carved into it just to the right of this, which had a few nice probs in the 5's...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/05/beme6u3a.jpg)
I've got that down as 6A from sitting - it's possible my grades are wonky.
Also, from the low block, going up the left arete - 5
And from the low block, no arete - 6B.
To the left is a low scoop which yields to an awesome sitstart rockover mantel (yes, there is such a thing!) - 7A/ungradeable.
And a little way to the right, at the end of this sector, is a block with two slabby walls either side of an arete, and a low shelf that you stand up on. All problems so far use aretes and are 6A-6C+. The problems on the right wall are harder from a standing start matched on the undercut - I have the centre marked as a project. And the fingery left wall.
There's a lot of stuff been done/ repeated since that old topo. Really needs an update.
I'm working on it. Still a few rocks to climb, but I'm looking at around twenty pages of problems right now.
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Great. If you want my InDesign files, let me know.
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New Wiki link for the topo: http://ukbouldering.com/wiki/images/d/d8/Blackstone_Edge.pdf (http://ukbouldering.com/wiki/images/d/d8/Blackstone_Edge.pdf)
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thanks for the topo.
Just realised how close this is to me got no excuse not to go now
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thanks for the topo.
Just realised how close this is to me got no excuse not to go now
Damn right... apart from the drizzle ;) Its a cool spot Grubes, though needs the right conditions.
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Just trying to download the topo but getting a 404 error.
Has this been taken off?
if anyone could e-mail/link me a copy that would be awesome hoping to go at 2.30 today
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PM me your e-mail address.
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Thanks, Robin has sorted me out
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I'll avoid the "f'narr f'narr".......
The wiki seems to have gone wonky- it won't accept any pdf uploads, and gives a 404 error if you try to access any uploaded PDFs.
Bubbs?
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bubba's gone GCW :wavecry: see his signature
Btw had a great evening in perfect weather light breeze enough to clear the midges but cool enough for great friction.
I got quite a bit of footage will cut it together
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Glad to hear you had fun. Moorland grit's great for summer - good conditions and no biters. I had a top day in August last year.
Just heard from John Wilson that he did five new 7a's at the far end of Blackstone today - did you see him whilst you were there?
Looking forward to your footage. Which reminds me, here's a couple from last year that don't think I've posted before.
Blackstone on a Foggy Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtwz0LySrzY#ws)
Blackstone Edge Revisited (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SBY53K5IDY#ws)
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No didn't see him we walked up from J22 off the M62 so he probably was heading off as we were arriving. We only had a couple of hour blast.
Started on Heuco block and then tried an off width route ended up at robins dyno. Go nowhere near but the wall to the left was great.
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Glad to hear you had fun. Moorland grit's great for summer - good conditions and no biters. I had a top day in August last year.
Just heard from John Wilson that he did five new 7a's at the far end of Blackstone today - did you see him whilst you were there?
Hi Robin, was that at the motorway end (I suspect that's the normal far end!)?
I need to get back up there somemtime to get that 7 on the Hueco bloc done.. Though it might be a bit hot in the coming few days..
T
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Yep, that's at the motorway end. There's an attractive little roof that I've eyed up in the past. Most of John's problems take lines through this. From what I remember, they are all steep on big holds, and look very good. He's still undecided about grades, so if you do any, please let me know (I'm working on a guide).
1 Luna 7A
Start on the low left block, then reach from undercuts to crimps and jump for the lip.
2 Kraken 6C/7A
From the shelf at the back, pull through the crack.
3 Leviathan Left 6C/7A
Pull round the right-hand roof (no crack) and transfer to the left-hand roof. Follow this to its end.
4 Leviathan Right 7A
Pull through the right-hand roof, without using the crack.
On a higher level, there is also a low undercut wall, with a big crack in the middle. John did a problem on the right side of this.
Step Into The Light 6C/7A
Start from the break and fight past slopers to the top.
A little to the right is a low prow.
The Butcher 6B+
Sitstart the low prow.
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Cheers Robin, might head up there some time this week coming on the way back from my Manc <> Hull commute..
Any chance of picking this roof out on google maps and throwing a link back this way? Edit - I've just had a look and its hard to figure out what is what!!!
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Fairly easy to find. It's the furthest south cluster of rock. The roof is quite obvious, one long prow with a shorter roof on its right and a crack splitting the two sides.
Here's the map link, can't pin the exact block, but you'll soon see it.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=&daddr=53.638831,-2.042803&geocode=&sll=53.638856,-2.042314&sspn=0.002373,0.0067&vpsrc=0&t=k&hl=en&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=18&ie=UTF8&z=18&iwloc=ddw1
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John has had a rethink about grades, and asked me to change them on here. Regardless of difficulty, these look like very good problems, and I'm keen to check them out sometime this week. Anyway, these are the revised grades...
1 Luna 6C
Start on the low left block, then reach from undercuts to crimps and jump for the lip.
2 Kraken 6B+
From the shelf at the back, pull through the crack.
3 Leviathan Left 6C
Pull round the right-hand roof (no crack) and transfer to the left-hand roof. Follow this to its end.
4 Leviathan Right 6C
Pull through the right-hand roof, without using the crack.
On a higher level, there is also a low undercut wall, with a big crack in the middle. John did a problem on the right side of this.
Step Into The Light 6B+
Start from the break and fight past slopers to the top.
A little to the right is a low prow.
The Butcher 6B
Sitstart the low prow.
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I'm going to go check it out today. Grubes went without me while I was on holiday so am keen to see if his excitement about it was justified :D Looks really good in the guide! Will definitely hunt for the roof r-man talks of.
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Yup! Nice spot! Definitely worth the walk-in.
I did Leviathon R, Leviathon L, Kraken, Luna and Butcher and the revised grades above seem about right to me. Except perhaps that I definitely found Leviathan left much easier than Leviathan right.
I couldn't manage a picture as the sun was directly behind the roof.
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I think it's great that people are getting up there. I look forward to a new guide.
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Cool, I'll try and get up there Wednesday morning...
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Where's this there roof then.. How far along from Hueco bloc is it? I've walked quite a way and can't see a thing like a roof! ESP as it should have James chalk on it... Nice up here today. 20 deg and pleasant breeze.
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Found it.. I think (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/10/a9ajamu9.jpg)
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That's the one!
I was up yesterday evening, didn't get round to the roof - as usual got distracted by more boulders I hadn't tried before. Lowballs, but good fun. Lovely sunset - very pretty with all the wild cotton out at the moment.
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Any progress on them Tom? I need to go back for the low sloper problem above the cave, wasn't feeling it Monday.
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Any progress on them Tom? I need to go back for the low sloper problem above the cave, wasn't feeling it Monday.
I've a grudge to settle with the 7A+ on the side of the Hueco bloc. Desperately close on Wednesday morning.. slapped the top twice and didnt hold it, modified my RH grip and over slapped... ie got my palm over the top and couldnt hold. Then ran out of skin. Probably back tomorrow AM...
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Sounds close! Good luck tomorrow.
Here's a little vid of a couple from the other day. This area is a little cluster shortly before the trig point area (if coming from the north). On the first boulder (the Bottomless Git boulder) there are 6A+ and 7B sitters on the other side, a 7A to the right of the vid problem (start matched on the vid heel hold) and a 6B+ pulling up right the arete from low. All lowball, but good value.
There's a big roof just near this boulder too - this is The Lady's Not For Gurning, 7B, coming out from squatting on the plinth. Below the big roof is the Slopey Top boulder, which has a couple of 7A sitters on the left (the footblock is in) and easier sitters to the right.
A little downhill is the Shelfish boulder, shown at the end of the video. And further on and downhill there's a lowball roof with various short but fierce possibilities - all still projects.
On the Bottomless Git boulder at Blackstone Edge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeokwQ5Of_c#ws)
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No skin no cigar. Ape hour is what I'm trying, and I've just noticed a vid of a chap doing it a different way:
https://vimeo.com/68040543
I've pulled on like this and thought it felt a.too easy and b. the guide tells you no jugs on the right (where the heel is here..). I'm guessing the regular (correct?) way is using the crimp, the sidepull work feet up on the shitty smears and lay one on for the top.. That feels 7A+ (hard) for me (having slapped and not held the top) but its not my ideal problem type...
Any clarification from the Blackstone massive?
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Never tried that method, but like you say, no jugs on the right.
It's a one mover for me - LH on lowest sidepull, left foot on a smear, go for the top.
@25sec in GCW's vid:
https://vimeo.com/67633538
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Looks like cheating to me.
R-Man's method is the one, fair at the grade.
Lancashire Lanks Series - Part 01 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/67633538)
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Thanks Gents - thought so...
My methods a kind of hybrid - RH crimp, LH high side pull - then LF on the low smear - pull on, RF on higher right smear and push off that for the top. Completely ran out of skin on it today (put a tip and thumb through). I think its an interesting morph one this, as if I do as you do Rman, then I'm a wee bit too bunched and I get pushed off...
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Think I'm heading there tomorrow Tom. I looked at Ape Hour when I was there on monday but decided I was running low by the time I got to there and wasn't sure what was/wasn't in. Will have to give it a go now I've seen the vid!
(By the way, you can pause the video, right click and "copy video URL at current time" for linking to the right place)
EDIT: Oh damnit UKB automatically changes links into embedded videos :(
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Think I'm heading there tomorrow Tom. I looked at Ape Hour when I was there on monday but decided I was running low by the time I got to there and wasn't sure what was/wasn't in. Will have to give it a go now I've seen the vid!
(By the way, you can pause the video, right click and "copy video URL at current time" for linking to the right place)
EDIT: Oh damnit UKB automatically changes links into embedded videos :(
You'll probably flash it James - I seem to be really weak at these face on body tension moves.. it doesnt help being warm though..
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Deleted my vid (link above) to stop incorrect beta & future ticks using this method. I was always 50/50 about the heel as the flake sits so close/feeds to the right arete, but I bumped into a more experienced climber up there once who stated "it's all over when you get your foot on there", and the beta was born. Good problem, not my particular style, a skin eater and a source of much frustration in the past. Thinking about it though, I'm quite happy I'll have to fight with it again...
Cheers gents
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Very altruistic, chapeau to you.
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Deleted my vid (link above) to stop incorrect beta & future ticks using this method. I was always 50/50 about the heel as the flake sits so close/feeds to the right arete, but I bumped into a more experienced climber up there once who stated "it's all over when you get your foot on there", and the beta was born. Good problem, not my particular style, a skin eater and a source of much frustration in the past. Thinking about it though, I'm quite happy I'll have to fight with it again...
Cheers gents
As GCW said very altruistic.. Its still a nice problem with the heel on - and theres another eliminate from the low side pull and one of the jugs out to the right in the mid 6's... Like you, its really not my kind of problem which makes me want to go back and get it nailed!! Frustrating indeed :)
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Ape Hour: Managed to pull on, but not move very far off it. Not one for direct sun though 8)
Is the guide still being managed/updated? I went over the the back edge and problem 9 (only one from 9-13 marked on photo) is marked in the wrong place and didn't feel like a 5! The description's something like "Sit start and struggle to the runnel".
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I'm hoping my old guide will be superseded soon.
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I'm hoping my old guide will be superseded soon.
Oh? Someone working on a new one? Is it close enough to Huddersfield to fall under Kirklees Climbing?
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I think the BMC lancs guide is due out soonish? Is that what you mean?
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I think the BMC lancs guide is due out soonish? Is that what you mean?
BMC is out soonish, hopefully early next year.
There could be other stuff in the pipeline though, I couldn't comment...
Very cloak and daggers
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now a BMC Lanks guide would be good ;)
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What GCW and rginns are hinting at is that I'm working on a guide - I think I have already mentioned this in the thread, though I'm also helping with the bouldering in the BMC's guide, which may have caused confusion.
The BMC guide won't cover everything - I think there are space restrictions, though I've done my best to get as much as possible in there (GCW and rginns are involved too).
My guide will be as comprehensive as I can make it, and will cover most of Lancashire bouldering. I'm really excited about the area around Blackstone at the moment - there are some fantastic moorland crags that very few people know about.
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"there are some fantastic moorland crags that very few people know about."
Now I'm just drooling : )
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Can we have a special RockFax (tm) style icon for super low arse dragging sit starts? ;)
Nice one R-Man - holla if you want a hand proof reading etc..
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"there are some fantastic moorland crags that very few people know about."
Now I'm just drooling : )
Happy to show you round if you want - I need to get some action photos at the moment, and I'm trying to make the most of the weather.
Same goes for anyone. I can get out most mid-week afternoons/evenings and all day on the weekends. I still need photos of Cow's Mouth and Dove Lowe Stones in particular, though I have stuff to check at other venues so I'd be happy to give the tour.
Can we have a special RockFax (tm) style icon for super low arse dragging sit starts? ;)
Nice one R-Man - holla if you want a hand proof reading etc..
Thanks, tomtom! I might take you up on that!
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A tour would be awesome.
other than blackstones I have not climbed in Lancs.
Would offer to proof read but anyone who has read anything I have ever written would know I would be offering no help at all.
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Alright then, anyone keen to head out this week sometime? Or next week?
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Too hot At the moment but I'm about for the next few weeks midweek..
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Keen for any night this week currently no plans.
I can be at the blackstones carpark for 5pm ish if I head straight from work
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Sounds good. How about tonight or tomorrow?
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cant tonight not got my stuff at work.
Tomorrow sounds good
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Ok, tomorrow at 5. See you there! Anyone else, feel free to join us.
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other than blackstones I have not climbed in Lancs.
:o :o :o
In spite of what Jennings says ( :P ) , Lancashire has some awesome bouldering albeit esoteric sometimes.
The quarries have unparalleled charm.
Get to it :)
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Very true.
I suspect Nik may have route goggles on. ;D For instance, I climbed this brilliant little roof arete just 10min walk from his two favourite crags Warland Quarry/Summit Quarry. The centre is still a project and will be 7C or harder I think.
Fanfare, 7B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=834YsKTIeMc#ws)
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Very true.
I suspect Nik may have route goggles on. ;D For instance, I climbed this brilliant little roof arete just 10min walk from his two favourite crags Warland Quarry/Summit Quarry. The centre is still a project and will be 7C or harder I think.
:bow:
Aye, only joshing ::)
Excited to hear more from the moors... Hopefully there'll be lot's in my grades ;)
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All grades! There's even a waterside crag with a sandy beach.
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Must be a good few link ups there......
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I'll be there tomorrow night if I don't get caught in a meeting tomorrow afternoon. Grubes told me 5pm at the White House?
Also keen to proof read if you need another meticulous reader.
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Thanks!
Yes, parking next to the White House.
Must be a good few link ups there......
Link-ups hampered by the tiny-ness of the holds on the face. Probably possible, but will be super hard. There's another roof at a different crag that will be good for link ups though.
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Oh that's right. It gets to a week before I move away and in the midst of a summer heatwave and then you suddenly share the knowledge on local projects. It's a conspiracy I tells ya...
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Yeah, we've known for months......
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Oh that's right. It gets to a week before I move away and in the midst of a summer heatwave and then you suddenly share the knowledge on local projects. It's a conspiracy I tells ya...
:lol: Unlucky! I did only find that one a few weeks ago though - I've had some projects in the secrets safe for years.
Have you tried the rumoured Cow's Mouth LGP yet?
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Cheers for taking us out Robin! Was some good stuff up there, lots to go back and finish.
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You're welcome! It was a fine evening. Let's do it again some time.
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You're welcome! It was a fine evening. Let's do it again some time.
I'm in - when its cooler!
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It's all about the breeze. I was out yesterday and it was still and sweaty. With Grubes and Jayfuu it was fine - not great for hard slopey stuff, but cool enough to have fun.
But if the grit's not rocking your boat, tomtom (or anyone) do you fancy checking out a limestone crag in Clitheroe? I haven't been yet, looks like vertical highballish stuff.
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10762.msg205893.html#msg205893 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,10762.msg205893.html#msg205893)
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This link (http://ukbouldering.com/wiki/images/d/d8/Blackstone_Edge.pdf (http://ukbouldering.com/wiki/images/d/d8/Blackstone_Edge.pdf)) no longer works and I'm wondering if anyone could email me a copy?
Thanks
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PM me your e mail address.
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Hopefully heading up to the Blackstones at the weekend with Bluebrad, will be nice to go back (and see what grades problems I did a few years back now get).
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It's a good warm weather option if there's a bit of a breeze.
Andy made a nice vid recently. No grades in this vid, but these problems range fom about 2 to 7A+.
The wild, wild moors: Blackstone Edge on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/93494035)
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A nice little video that; I di home improvements left and right back in 2005 and would give them 5/5+ respectively although of course I am happy to take 7a for them. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=32283 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=32283)
There was also a very nice slopey traverse not far away from home improvements, in fact I'm getting a bit keen, is there time for a crash diet?
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A nice little video that; I di home improvements left and right back in 2005 and would give them 5/5+ respectively although of course I am happy to take 7a for them. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=32283 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=32283)
From sitting? Probably 5/5+ from standing.
I ask because Marc C has already retro claimed everything in the video, then admitted he never did sitstarts.
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I ask because Marc C has already retro claimed everything in the video, then admitted he never did sitstarts.
:lol:
Any update on the guide release? :read:
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As usual, the answer is soon! Sorting things out with printers at the moment - seems to take a while.
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Fatneck - go prepared to exfoliate... its a great spot but is good at removing skin! (and I think its easier to get to from the M62 side...)
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If you are heading up this weekend fatneck give me a shout I have some in finished business there and looking for an excuse to go back
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A nice little video that; I di home improvements left and right back in 2005 and would give them 5/5+ respectively although of course I am happy to take 7a for them. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=32283 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=32283)
From sitting? Probably 5/5+ from standing.
I ask because Marc C has already retro claimed everything in the video, then admitted he never did sitstarts.
I did them both from sitting; I seem to remember there's a low juggy break, I think I first went up to Blackstones in 2003 but can't be sure; I'll see if I can find any photos as the spread of grey hair will indicate the vintage. Nik and I did a few problems in 'arete land' at the far right includign a really fun thing going over a short roof.
Shall we arrange a meet & a few beers?
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Well a brief family sojourn to Blackstones today and can advise that parking near the 'mast' just off Jn 22 and walking over the pennine way is a pleasant 25 ish minutes and saves the drive through shitsville from Jn 21.
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Well a brief family sojourn to Blackstones today and can advise that parking near the 'mast' just off Jn 22 and walking over the pennine way is a pleasant 25 ish minutes and saves the drive through shitsville from Jn 21.
+1
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I did them both from sitting; I seem to remember there's a low juggy break, I think I first went up to Blackstones in 2003 but can't be sure; I'll see if I can find any photos as the spread of grey hair will indicate the vintage. Nik and I did a few problems in 'arete land' at the far right includign a really fun thing going over a short roof.
Shall we arrange a meet & a few beers?
Good stuff. I shall amend FA details.
Is this what you mean by "arete land" and the short roof?
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2356996435_ff193b13e9.jpg)
Got this line in, as well as the one up the seam just to the left. Not recording FA's for problems under 7A as most have likely been done before.
Always happy to play at Blackstone, I'd be up for a meet in future. But if you reckon you might have done any other 7's or problems I haven't spotted, it's probably easiest if I just send you a copy of the Blackstone chapter to have a look through.
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Shall we arrange a meet & a few beers?
Always happy to play at Blackstone, I'd be up for a meet in future.
what about a guidebook launch meet.
As for the approach I personally prefer walking south than heading north from the M62.
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Good idea!
I've described both approaches.
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I did them both from sitting; I seem to remember there's a low juggy break, I think I first went up to Blackstones in 2003 but can't be sure; I'll see if I can find any photos as the spread of grey hair will indicate the vintage. Nik and I did a few problems in 'arete land' at the far right includign a really fun thing going over a short roof.
Shall we arrange a meet & a few beers?
Good stuff. I shall amend FA details.
Is this what you mean by "arete land" and the short roof?
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2356996435_ff193b13e9.jpg)
Got this line in, as well as the one up the seam just to the left. Not recording FA's for problems under 7A as most have likely been done before.
Always happy to play at Blackstone, I'd be up for a meet in future. But if you reckon you might have done any other 7's or problems I haven't spotted, it's probably easiest if I just send you a copy of the Blackstone chapter to have a look through.
that's the one, I was either just into the run up for surgery ont he right knee or in recovery, Nik did it facing the other way and with significantly less grunting.
I know names aren't important but we called the easy but beatiful arete behind the hueco block 'the flying Finn'
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Sorry, the name for that one (Softly, Softly) comes from Bruce Goodwin's write up of the area for the BMC guide. He's been bouldering there for decades so this was likely first done a long time ago!
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Has anyone got a copy of the topo for Blackstones ? I can't find it anywhere on the web now ...
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You've got mail...(check your DM's)
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Blackstone meet up today. All welcome. Blue skies right now so should be good.
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I'll be wandering in from the S (M62 side) about 11 if anyone wants to walk in from there...
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Would have loved to but I'm rotten with a cold. :(
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Nevermind, we'll do another one this winter.
Here are some pics. It was a goodun.
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Nice to see Art back on the grit.