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places to visit => abroad => Topic started by: Andy W on November 18, 2015, 05:40:14 pm
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I'm fed up with the weather in the UK, sooo if I sell my house I have about 25k, which it appears can buy a house in Spain. Anything from a dump in an olive grove to small town house.
Do folks reckon something an hour from Siurana would attract people/climbers to stay? thinking of renting a room out something along those lines.
ALora near Chorro is quite cheap.
Inland Murcia, Valencia are also cheap.
cheers for any thoughts.
cheers
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Room for a bouldering mat here:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-55032887.html
€35,000
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Thats a good un! I'm not the only one looking then!
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Not anymore ;D
I've been looking at property in France too, but hadn't considered this area of Spain. A great spot to branch out from.
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I can't find anything cheap in France, apart from Brittany?
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Will you be staying there? Will it be left unattended for any length of time?
I honestly don't know how big a problem this is, but a guy I met offshore has had big problems with squatters taking up residence. It might be a one-off, but it's worth looking into as there's a lot of youth unemployment and it's very, very difficult to evict once they get in. Apparently.
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I can't find anything cheap in France, apart from Brittany?
Brittany's considered to be expensive. I suggest looking anywhere else in France. Outside the cities and SE obviously.
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40k (euro) will get you a decent place in Cornundella, below Suirana. There is a women who negotiates with locals out there for quick sales. So they never go to market. I know of three recently that have gone for that.
Plus Euro is so crap at moment, that helps!
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Thanks for replies. I've added Asturias to the mix. I guess I want somewhere near to an area that other climbers might want to stay/rent, wether be a room or whole house I'm not sure. So it needs to be near a popular sport area I guess. I would also like to be within 3 hours of a decent bouldering area, i.e. Aibarracin. The requirements are offered by buying in the South, I think. The north Galicia or Asturias offers something else, better I think, but less well known.
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40k (euro) will get you a decent place in Cornundella, below Suirana. There is a women who negotiates with locals out there for quick sales. So they never go to market. I know of three recently that have gone for that.
Plus Euro is so crap at moment, that helps!
That sounds interesting, do you know any more?
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Personally, I wouldn't rent somewhere an hour from the climbing when you can get cheap accommodation near all of the popular venues. If you're going to go to Albarracin you will want to stay in the village. First and foremost I'd choose somewhere to buy that is where you want to be based. That will be depend on the type of climbing you enjoy (plenty of folk don't like Siurana), the time of year you expect to be there and what you can afford (Calpe ticks lots of boxes in terms of weather and renting out to other people, but is relatively expensive).
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Personally, I wouldn't rent somewhere an hour from the climbing when you can get cheap accommodation near all of the popular venues. If you're going to go to Albarracin you will want to stay in the village. First and foremost I'd choose somewhere to buy that is where you want to be based. That will be depend on the type of climbing you enjoy (plenty of folk don't like Siurana), the time of year you expect to be there and what you can afford (Calpe ticks lots of boxes in terms of weather and renting out to other people, but is relatively expensive).
I think the place has to near at least one decent climbing spot, then maybe an hour to drive other places is ok. Siurana if you can buy cheap looks a good option. Lots of sport climbing, potential to rent, El Cogul bouldering not so far and Albarracin three hours or so away.
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If I was buying for myself in Spain I'd buy some central with a lot of places within 1 hour drive (e.g. Tremp area, Balaguer) but if I was buying specifically to rent out to climbers it would have to be in a town/village right next to the climbing (e.g. Margalef village, Cornudella). Most people booking holiday accommodation want to be right by the crags/amenities. I guess you have to decide what the main purpose of premises will be. Are you thinking of relocating to Spain or buying a second property?
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If I was buying for myself in Spain I'd buy some central with a lot of places within 1 hour drive (e.g. Tremp area, Balaguer) but if I was buying specifically to rent out to climbers it would have to be in a town/village right next to the climbing (e.g. Margalef village, Cornudella). Most people booking holiday accommodation want to be right by the crags/amenities. I guess you have to decide what the main purpose of premises will be. Are you thinking of relocating to Spain or buying a second property?
I'm looking to relocate, to somewhere where other people might want to stay and thus give me some (small income). So yes needs to be near some climbing. Or plan B is Asturias/Galaicia, which looks good but is probably less attractive to the average sport climber, i.e. less well known.
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I guess if you are going to rely somewhat on that income then you have to buy somewhere tried and tested (i.e. Cornudella) unless you know/can predict the next big thing!
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I guess if you are going to rely somewhat on that income then you have to buy somewhere tried and tested (i.e. Cornudella) unless you know/can predict the next big thing!
;) well Asturias and Galicia fit that description, not unknown, nor the next big thing, but looks like masses of bouldering and sport.
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And rain!
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If you're talking about holiday style rental then as JohnM said you'll want to be very close to a major crag; you'll also need to consider that people will want their own space. If you're thinking more about renting out a room to 1-2 people who are psyched on spending a few months or perhaps a season in Spain but want a base then I think you can be a bit more flexi and somewhere like Balaguer area could be prime (St Llorenc, Santa Linya, not too far from Oliana and Terradets and can get to the crags south of Lleida as well)
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If you're talking about holiday style rental then as JohnM said you'll want to be very close to a major crag; you'll also need to consider that people will want their own space. If you're thinking more about renting out a room to 1-2 people who are psyched on spending a few months or perhaps a season in Spain but want a base then I think you can be a bit more flexi and somewhere like Balaguer area could be prime (St Llorenc, Santa Linya, not too far from Oliana and Terradets and can get to the crags south of Lleida as well)
Very true. Currently I live in Cornwall and rent my house out as a holiday let 8 weeks in the summer and occasional airbnb lets other times. I was hoping a similar model might work in Spain, so a mixture of both. If I got week bookings say I could move out and camp!
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Might be worth talking to Richie Patterson? I believe he has a lot of experience regarding Spanish property.
Not sure whether he posts here, but he's active on FB.
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Might be worth talking to Richie Patterson? I believe he has a lot of experience regarding Spanish property.
Not sure whether he posts here, but he's active on FB.
Or here
http://rocaverdeclimbing.com/?page_id=678
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Thanks Chris :thumbsup:
Don't suppose you were the Chris Fryer who contacted 6Music this morning were you? </offtopic>
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No I dropped a message on their FB page yesterday?
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Probably another one of you then unless it was recommending a Gomez track?
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It was :)
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Yay! You're so world famous :2thumbsup:
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What a bizzare coincidence. I only get to listen for about half an hour on the way to work and back so never hear much.
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If I were you, I'd go for somewhere in Cataluña that caters for the crags that aren't already saturated with accommodation (Cornudella area). As far as I can tell, there aren't many places in the immediate vicinity to Oliana that cater to the English-speaking contingent. Could be worth looking into.
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This is what you need: http://www.the-open-mind.com/the-incredible-nomadic-gypsies-who-live-in-spanish-mountain-caves/
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if you want to get away from the rain look around almeria for bank repossessions. it gets loads of sun and is cheap as chip at the mo. there is a little bit of climbing but you could also rent out to normal holiday makers in the summer and go traveling for a month or two.
i know a couple of people around the south of spain that work in property sales so give me a shout if you want and ill put you in contact with them.
dont blame you for wanting to go, me and the missus have been looking to try and get out there end of next year.
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If I were you, I'd go for somewhere in Cataluña that caters for the crags that aren't already saturated with accommodation (Cornudella area). As far as I can tell, there aren't many places in the immediate vicinity to Oliana that cater to the English-speaking contingent. Could be worth looking into.
Good idea. Col De Nargo/Organya area would be good
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If I were you, I'd go for somewhere in Cataluña that caters for the crags that aren't already saturated with accommodation (Cornudella area). As far as I can tell, there aren't many places in the immediate vicinity to Oliana that cater to the English-speaking contingent. Could be worth looking into.
Or to the “speaking-most-european-languages contingent" for that matter. Despite having Swedish, English, German, French, Catalan, Spanish, and three slavic languages between us we couldn't find anything useful on the internet for low cost places in Organya (the most logical place for Oliana, Col de Nargo, Tres Ponts and Perles). I found apartments for rent by driving through Organya on google street view looking for posters. Found a telephone number on a big poster on a wall and had Mrs jwi call them...
Perfect accommodation though. Very cheep, nice, apartments in central Organya.
I realise how this could be improved upon...
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That's a well good way of finding accomodation!
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After several days internet squinting, all I have is sore eyes. What I've found so far.
It's possible to buy within 15 mins of Albarracin.
Also near Margalef.
Asturias looks nice as does the Ariege (France)