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the shizzle => shootin' the shit => Topic started by: LozT on November 12, 2021, 02:39:32 pm
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Hi all, back here to wade in on the debate, in a nice way 💪
Am I right in thinking that the ‘vaccines’ do little to prevent catching and transmitting covid and as new strains develop seem to be less effective generally?
This would make vaccine passports seem odd.
I know many NHS staff and others who had both vaccines and some have had a booster. Some staff had very horrible reactions to shots 1 and 2 and understandably feel scared of the booster. They will also face job loss in April.
How many vaccines are people ok to take? Many places have at least 4 doses if not 5 in the pipeline.
I don’t think we can say the vaccines are safe at all. As already mentioned on here the number of clotting disorders due to the vaccine is noticeable in outpatient clinics. Much of the collateral damage from the vaccines has been ignored or censored by the government - corporate partnerships and its media outlets. This is not ok. A close relative of mine had a stroke within 24hrs of the booster and is incredibly resentful. While others have heart problems, bleeding disorders, neurological and autoimmune problems linked to the vaccine.
Covid is a very horrible illness for some people no doubt. The evidence seems to suggest that it was manufactured in a lab with funding from the same people who had invested in the vaccine technology. Specifically to increase transmissibility and seemingly to target ACE2 receptors which seem associated with the clotting issues. Yet there is zero accountability it seems and the people who were involved are profiting from what appears at least to be unintended genocide. Surely these are the questions we should be asking, not bickering over what amounts to be a totalitarian control measure.
Another question is why are our hospitals struggling so much, why when my relative had a stroke after the vaccine was there no ambulances and they were queuing outside a&e treating people in the ambulance line. Why has there been a big rise in cardiac and clotting disorders. Is it just covid? I doubt it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AllysonPollock/status/1458729432869490689
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It’s me Andy (Dan)
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Hi all, back here to wade in on the debate, in a nice way 💪
Am I right in thinking that the ‘vaccines’ do little to prevent catching and transmitting covid and as new strains develop seem to be less effective generally?
[further drivel disguised as “honest questions” deleted]
Voila! Why vaccine pass might be necessary to minimise the impact of imbecille conspiracy nuts like these.
They are honest questions.
How many doses are you willing to take?
The nhs staff will require 3 for those who need to be up to date, and then from then on 2 annual boosters.
The gain of function research in Wuhan on bat coronavirus funded in part by the NIH and worked on by American, British and Chinese scientists is knowledge in the public sphere.
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I did wonder. Why don't you just post under your own name?
(though I suppose it's possible it's not Dan at all, just some lurker who's watched previous Dan incarnations. Who knows really?)
I don’t want to if that’s cool by you. Just at helsby actually. Chilly day but great conditions!
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This is an interesting testimony given by an Israeli MIT prof who was affected by censorship when trying to warn of cardiac signals.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1456965247558893575
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Which claims would you like to disprove Pete? I can try and provide clear evidence whenever possible although I’m not sure that extends to my fathers CT head
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Peter Doshi BMJ editor talking about the covid vaccine safety and efficacy
https://mobile.twitter.com/ruben_deherdt/status/1455976583009873928
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Testimonies on the vaccine mandates including some of those injured in the vaccine trials who in their words were ‘ghosted’ by the manufacturers.
https://youtu.be/lkVN3KwDfvI
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There is quite a poor IMO longitudinal study in the lancet that shows effectiveness at reducing catching the delta variant however when there is a breakthrough infection ‘peak viral load’ was shown to be the same in fully vaccinated and unvaccinated persons.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
Regarding mortality the U.K. is currently running at a 15% excess mortality rate which has been more or less consistent for a few months. I believe the current weeks breakdown is about half of the 1200 deaths were related to covid. So there certainly does appear to be ‘bodies piling up’
Edit - the authors of the lancet study suggested that this meant fully vaccinated individuals could just as readily transmit covid as the unvaccinated. This was apparent in my office recently when there was a covid outbreak of the fully vaccinated
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Regarding mortality the U.K. is currently running at a 15% excess mortality rate which has been more or less consistent for a few months. I believe the current weeks breakdown is about half of the 1200 deaths were related to covid. So there certainly does appear to be ‘bodies piling up’
Weekly deaths would appear to be c.10,000-12,000 total from this data https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales so you’re accidentally out by a factor of 10, with there being 1,000 covid deaths last week.
The last time I looked it was data from the 22nd Oct which was as I said it was. You can trace the excess back over the weeks. Thanks for the update though, it looks like the booster program is really reducing those numbers now.
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There is quite a poor IMO longitudinal study in the lancet that shows effectiveness at reducing catching the delta variant however when there is a breakthrough infection ‘peak viral load’ was shown to be the same in fully vaccinated and unvaccinated persons.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext
Regarding mortality the U.K. is currently running at a 15% excess mortality rate which has been more or less consistent for a few months. I believe the current weeks breakdown is about half of the 1200 deaths were related to covid. So there certainly does appear to be ‘bodies piling up’
Edit - the authors of the lancet study suggested that this meant fully vaccinated individuals could just as readily transmit covid as the unvaccinated. This was apparent in my office recently when there was a covid outbreak of the fully vaccinated
https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-study-on-household-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-looking-at-vaccination-status-and-variant-type
The conclusion you draw appears to be incorrect re: peak viral load = same transmission overall etc. Anyway it seems you have an agenda and it won't matter if the data contradicts you.
That appears different from the interpretation made by the authors of the study who I paraphrase ‘the vaccine reduces risk of getting the virus and speed recovery however a breakthrough case is just as likely to transmit the virus’
And as Fiend says the purpose of the discussion is to understand if the vaccine effectiveness or not, warrants a segregation system for those who don’t want the vaccine or can’t have it
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There is a limited breakdown of excess deaths. The total deaths for the week are presented with data for 2020 and 2015-19.
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It isn’t conspiracy theory to say that all NHS requiring the vaccine under mandate will be asked to have a booster followed by another jab 6 months after. Several politicians, Macron, Dan Andrew’s and their ministers have suggested that they don’t yet know how many jabs people will be required to have.
Some people may be happy to continue having these injections whilst others may not. Considering the evidence for waning effectiveness, acquired natural immunity and the ability of vaccinated people to carry and transmit the virus it seems very harsh to impose segregation based on vaccine status.
In Canada at the moment you have to be fully up to date with Jabs and boosters to access public transport and other amenities. This is for everyone over the age of 12.
The question in my original post was - how many vaccines are you willing to take? 3? 4? 5? 2 per year to keep your job indefinitely. Considering the dubious safety profile this seems (no words)
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I understand that some people in the military have been widely experimented on with a range of drugs. My uncle was in the gulf and given a cocktail which (he felt) severely damaged his health. I have read something to do with this and the anthrax vaccines. He died of heart complications at an early age.
Edit - I think this was known as ‘gulf war syndrome’?
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Considering the dubious safety profile this seems (no words)
I’d consider the ‘dubious safety profile’ were I shown objective evidence of its existence. A talking head on a YT video is not that. Till then I’ll remain a trusting soul.
That’s great for you guys. There are some unfortunate ‘talking heads’ out there that will lose their* jobs and it seems in time their access to a social life, travel, libraries and even healthcare. I can’t imagine what it must feel like for someone that religiously followed all the guidelines had all 3 jabs, then had a stroke on the third, only to be told I’m sorry you can’t go to a restaurant or travel to see family.
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True, it’s probably not good to complicate the issue with complex comparisons.
I do think the ‘long covid’ phenomenon bears a strong relationship to ptsd. A good portion of which has been driven by health policy and ‘advertising’.
Going back to the original point Mark20 was making, the measures seem divisive and excessive at best and at worst the start of something a lot more sinister.
In Austria from Sunday the unvaccinated are the ‘untermensch’ and its unreal to see it being applauded by the progressive liberal class.
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School staff asked to call the police if unvaccinated teachers arrive to work in NZ
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10193565/New-Zealand-schools-urged-call-COPS-unvaccinated-teachers-up.html
In NSW Australia if you are over the age of 16 there are a whole range of things you cannot do if unvaccinated including leisure time with friends and access to libraries and other public facilities. You are also unable to get a hair cut at a hairdressers
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/not-fully-vaccinated
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Historically when segregation measures have been implemented there is a significant minority support and a majority of indifference. It wouldn’t be good to make everyone’s life difficult, just create a class of people which can be scapegoated for a range of societies ills.
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I know several people who are in the position of being unable to take another vaccine at work and in my personal life. That is hard for them as they will be significantly affected by upcoming mandates.
What ‘conspiracy’ am I pushing? I’ve posted the opinion of Peter Doshi the deputy editor of the BMJ (now removed by YouTube) I’ve posted a link to injured participants from the vaccine trials and I have posted a link to an MIT professor censored for trying to alert health bodies about cardiac signals. Apart from that the original link by Mark was to do with highlighting authoritarian measures. What is happening is not ok and if it continues will be awful for you guys too and seemingly has little to do with health.
If you are concerned about ‘overwhelming’ the nhs then covid is a red herring. The dismantling and privatisation agenda is in full swing and this is a perfect opportunity.
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Cheers Dan for derailing the thread from a reasoned debate about the ethics of vaccine passports and restrictions, to your usual disingenuous, click bait, conspiracy bollocks
What click bait Mark? I’ve expressed my concerns to you in person in way less moderate terms than on here. It’s ok if you don’t want to be associated with those concerns. I get that. As for disingenuous you know my personal situation and how it’s affected me. I had to reach out even to be allowed on here to express this.
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I’m sure it will be fine for a time, maybe even nice that it’s quiet or offers a feeling of safety as you don’t have to socialise with the ‘unvaxxed’. I see the Danes have been putting some entertainment on with water cannons and tear gas. You could enjoy the show whilst sipping from your craft beer?
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‘Thousands’ out in Melbourne protesting the mandates
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1459493965485510666
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Hey Matt, Peter Doshi’s statement about vaccine mandates is now viewable here. He is the deputy editor of the British Medical Journal, not ‘click bait’ and worth a watch.
https://odysee.com/@JWild:6/Peter-Doshi-BMJ:d
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Weird that this is on some random website and not on The BMJ.
Yes I agree it is weird isn’t it.
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Protests across Italy
https://mobile.twitter.com/AnonCitizenUK/status/1459600856983166983
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What conspiracy have put in this thread?
They look like pretty unhappy chaps tbf
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. As for disingenuous [...]
I'd love to see you explain how the bit I referred to as disingenuous isn't disingenuous... Crack on ...
Sorry I didn’t read your post Alex. I was referring to Mark20’s post
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I don’t have much more to say, I think the mandates are an awful thing making a bad situation worse. I agree with Peter Doshi and many others. You guys don’t. I believe recurring covid vaccines will lead to health problems for many who will then be unfairly affected by mandates. You chaps are ok with that. I don’t believe I made any reference to any conspiracy and would be happy to try and evidence anything I’ve posted.
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Ah right the Mail headline, yeah well I’m sure we are all able to read between the lines to understand what is going on there.
Maybe Mark was aping your comment. Who knows
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What conspiracy have I discussed?
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You can go to the VAERS database or watch the video of trial participants speaking out to get an understanding of the vaccine safety concerns. You can also read the stories of people affected by the covid vaccine throughout the media since the role out. There are websites that collate stories of patients with covid vaccine injuries and films of their stories. I mentioned my relative had a stroke within 24 hrs of their booster due to a clotting injury. It has also been mentioned by other posters on here that there has been a reported incidence of increased clotting injuries in outpatient clinics post vaccination. Allyson pollock a well respected left leaning public health professional posted on Twitter that she had ‘thousands’ of emails from vaccine injured people, she also linked to Peter Doshi’s talk and the trial participants stories. From an anecdotal perspective I know l people who have had wide ranging problems including stroke, menorrhagia, autoimmune problems , cardiac problems and blood disorders (low platelets). Non of this is conspiracy and all of these people will be affected by incoming mandates. This is not bringing into question that the vaccine has saved lives or isn’t effective at reducing serious illness. It is not denying that covid is a terrible illness.
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You can also watch the video of the MIT professor speaking about his experience of censorship when attempting to warn authorities of the increasing cardiac signal he notices early in Israel.
Edit - here it is
https://mobile.twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1456965247558893575
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Ah right the Mail headline, yeah well I’m sure we are all able to read between the lines to understand what is going on there.
I clearly can't because if someone asked me to write guidance I'd write something just like that :shrug:
The only thing I read between the lines is that the Mail likes to shit stir and is presumably authored by a bunch of pricks. Quelle surprise
Yea the Mail is the Mail
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How could it be anything but anecdotal? You hear from the trial participants themselves that side effects weren’t followed up. Pfizer for example have paid out huge sums of money due to these sort* of problems in the past. There is an interesting autopsy study by a German pathologist involved early in the crisis in understanding covid. He did post-mortem investigations on people who died within a number of days of the vaccine with the conclusion that at least 40% (if I remember correctly) could be attributed directly to the vaccine.
I don’t want to get hung up on safety as an issue in its own right, but as an argument against mandates when considered alongside waning efficacy and poor control of transmission, the argument for mandates from a public health perspective seems poor.
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"What conspiracy stuff?"
"Covid is a very horrible illness for some people no doubt. The evidence seems to suggest that it was manufactured in a lab with funding from the same people who had invested in the vaccine technology"
Hmmm.
I believe it’s reasonable to say that gain of function research on bat Coronavirus’s was being performed at the Wuhan lab in part funded by the NIH and Ecohealth alliance and there is links from those funding the research to the Moderna mRNA vaccine development program.
The central points are summed up nicely in this very creative animation.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FunctionGain/status/1459649111712542723
Ps thanks Offwidth appreciate your comments 👍🏻
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Why isn’t it credible Toby?
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Boris Johnson on the boosters aping Churchill’s BBC broadcast of 1935
„The storm clouds are gathering over the European scene. Our defences have been neglected. Danger is in the air…yes, I say in the air.”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-boris-johnson-issues-warning-about-coronavirus-cases-in-europe-and-urges-britons-to-get-their-booster-jab-12467037
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Hey Toby, I’m not suggesting it was released intentionally to benefit China. The accidental lab leak theory is still very much on the table as far as I’m aware and the links between those doing the GOF research and the moderna vaccine development is present. One could say why quibble about this when knowledge of the origin doesn’t help us now etc. To my mind if those driving the mandates are those also involved in generating the disease and the cure then accountability is important.
Regards mandates and Boris’s wartime language. Why talk about it in these terms? It seems totally incongruent with the process of supporting a healthy immune response. Generate a fight flight or shutdown reaction of the autonomic nervous system in the general public, how on earth will that help?
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The easily led argument works both ways. For example if I was easily led I’d be rolling my sleeve up and supporting social segregation measures.
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Please guys, don’t support the mandates and vaccine passports. They are really bad news and not ok. They create division, hate and fear and perpetuate trauma and isolation. These are not the conditions required for people to heal from any illness.
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Hi Alex, I’ve said everything I wanted to about rejecting mandates vaccine passports and social segregation. There is lots of information out there about the GOF research unpleasantness. I think Alan Bennet described history as ‘one fucking thing after another’. I’m holding on to see what the next 6 months bring. Cheers
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Interesting analysis of data here
https://dr-no.co.uk/2021/11/15/when-the-facts-change/
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It would be good to get your thoughts on the Dr. No analysis Steve. Cheers
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For anyone interested there is a Telegram group for NHS staff re the mandates
https://t.me/NHS100k
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6upNlHQVucei/
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Hi all, I asked Steve as I really value his opinion and I’m not mathematically minded so wanted to check on what was being said in the article. I had a quick look earlier and didn’t quite understand what he was saying, so will have another look now.
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Well there's noting like a hashtag to convince me :lol: Especially as I see on the preview that they don't like the UK terror threat system (wtf has that got to do with a sensible debate on this?). And at least one of the OTs posting a picture on there is moronic too. In fact, from the brief preview I'm swayed to thinking that I'm fine with the mandate, so that backfired...
Come on Dan, convince me to care...
I’m not trying to convince you of anything. If you’re glad to see the back of these staff then that’s ok by me.
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My reply to Steve’s post is that the graph referenced all cause mortality not deaths from covid. I’m not sure if that changes anything?
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I’m between a rock and a hard place Alex. I care what you think yet have no new argument to convince you with. I am ok with whatever position you chose to take on the staff who don’t want the vaccine. Of course its upsetting that you may not agree or even think the people not wanting the vaccine are stupid or selfish, you may be right. I understand the different sides of the dilemma and realise that neither option is a good one. Here we are.
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In reply to IanP maybe an analysis of the excess mortality further broken down by age might be more clear. I’ll have a look.
Re anonymity- who can blame them.
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That’s why I asked Steve. To get a better understanding of what I was reading and reduce the risk of being taken in by a deceiver.
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Ok cheers Ian, appreciate the analysis 👍🏻
Crack on with the new normal everybody 😬
https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1460350816221421569
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Haha you’re pretty much there on all of those points Pete apart from number 3. I think an accidental lab leak is one of the two current theories for the origin.
Thanks again for the heads up about the stats. I can’t dispute the criticism of the article and agree that Doctor No can be categorised as a bellend.
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An interesting post from Prof Norman Fenton, one for those stats boffins to get stuck into.
https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2021/11/is-vaccine-efficacy-statistical-illusion.html?m=1
Re the Wakefield channel 4 documentary, I watched it after being recommended by a friend earlier in the year. I believe it to be unadulterated shite.
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It was narrow minded and divisive* propaganda journalism of the worst kind. Along the same lines as Saving Syria’s Children.
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I believe Covid is a disease that affects multiple systems that may have a broader ranging effect on mortality than death recorded as 'of Covid'. Maybe all cause mortality offers a better measure of effectiveness in the broader population as it contains all potential variables?
Re 'antivax circles' it's good to see the propaganda machine in action there Tim, don't worry though I'll feed it back to the 3 people I know personally who are skeptical all of which have either had or have close contact with covid vaccine injuries. I'll also get on the horn to Prof Fenton and keep him up to date on the UKB takedown.
I'm not sure of the film you're referring Steve? There's a few covid conspiracy type films out there, non of which deserve much attention. Apart from people believing the idea of covid being a 'lab leak' as tinfoil hat territory I'm not sure which other conspiracy I've mentioned. The authoritarian control measures are happening, unless that is a conspiracy, this is after all a pandemic of the unvaccinated :lol:
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Gotcha! Because it was propaganda which set out to paint a particular picture from a very narrow perspective. The intended result being that anyone asking questions about the safety of said current pharmaceuticals would be thought of in the vision laid out by the documentary makers. I’d been raising an eyebrow from day dot when everyone was panic buying bog paper and watching videos of people face planting in Wuhan. I’d never even heard of Wakefield or thought of Piers Corbyn as anything other than an eccentric chap, suddenly they’re the vanguard of a new anti vax movement. As an exploration of ‘conspiracy theories’ around covid it was complete junk alone. Clearly the journalists making it had limited time, money, imagination and a particular brief of defending the desired narrative. Pretty shite all round
Edit: I’ve seen lots of interviews with public health professionals, Dr’s, scientists, vaccine manufacturers etc etc all raising concerns. Non of which have been Wakefield or Piers Corbyn, they were chosen by the film makers with a particular journalistic agenda in mind. (Propaganda)
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That’s pretty funny Will, so I’m stood there in Tesco chatting to the pharmacist about dodgy footage of people peeling over in the streets of Wuhan, whilst there is a bog roll horde* stampeding down the middle aisle.... and raising an eyebrow to it is evidence of my insanity.
You’ll be telling me Lattice is anything other than a lifestyle company next
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I see where you’re coming from Steve, I’ll stick to my point that it was what I said. A piece of selective journalism aimed at creating a particular public opinion I.e. propaganda. Pretty good propaganda it seems. I’ll give it a rewatch.
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On the censorship of Peter Doshi and medical 'misinformation'
https://twitter.com/Kukicat7/status/1460604685744803848
Full Fact on the pandemic of the unvaccinated and why social segregation of these human vectors of disease is essential
https://fullfact.org/health/economist-vaccination-status/
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If you’re going to mandate a drug to work (as in many countries) and implement social segregation measures based upon safety and efficacy then it seems reasonable that part of the argument against such mandates would be to question the safety and efficacy.
What strikes me as odd is that I’m the only one commenting on this when I know for absolute sure there are others on here or reading this aware of some of the problems occurring and feel as strongly about the authoritarian measures as I do.
The Sheffield scene seems to have a distinct whiff of mass formation based upon a corruption of left liberal ideology that’s been building for a long time. Wandering around outside in hathersage the other day was like witnessing collective psychosis. Disturbing times
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I’d appreciate any well informed reasoned arguments at the moment. Lots of countries are mandating covid vaccination for children to travel and go to school.
I agree the covid vaccines do seem effective at reducing severe disease and death. No argument from me there.
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If you’re going to mandate a drug to work (as in many countries) and implement social segregation measures based upon safety and efficacy then it seems reasonable that part of the argument against such mandates would be to question the safety and efficacy.
What strikes me as odd is that I’m the only one commenting on this when I know for absolute sure there are others on here or reading this aware of some of the problems occurring and feel as strongly about the authoritarian measures as I do.
There's many reasons that I could be concerned about mandatory vaccination and social segregation and all that, but "because the vaccine doesn't work" isn't part of any reasoned argument to that end. They have a great risk:reward balance for anyone aged 40-50 upwards versus catching covid directly and at younger ages it becomes a fine balance of small numbers game.
"Because the vaccines don't work" is only part of the argument about the associated control measures for idiots, put bluntly.
Sorry I meant to quote, it would be great to hear more reasoned arguments against mandates and segregation from a respected poster. Quite a relief in fact
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You’re right Andy I am ill informed about vaccines. In fact I couldn’t have given a toss until the past few months. The only people I ever hear going on about ‘Wakefield’ are the mob.
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I’m aware of the story of Wakefield and his corruption and sleaze and agree he is a disgrace.
From where I’m typing the mob seems comprised of frothing members of the covidian cult.
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Demanding I come up with a reasoned argument to convince people why social segregation measures are wrong provides the basis for the argument itself. A sign of how bad things are.
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I said I wasn’t, aware of Wakefield until I watched the documentary a few months ago.
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Would you like me to clarify a timeline of exactly when I learnt about Wakefield and then dismissed him as useful propaganda?
In that way you can cross reference all my posts, get together and see if you can split a few more hairs 😂
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You underestimate my capacity for ignorance and monomania Tim
Chaps, before this develops into something personal. I wanted to say I’m here to oppose the mandates and segregation on ethical and moral grounds.
At some point in the future you might find yourselves in the situation where you’re not willing to have another booster. I’m here now to support your right to choose.
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As a wise prophet never said
In the realm of hungry ghosts where bodies are like burnt out tree stumps and tiny mouths feed huge bellies there will always be enough Kool Aid to go around
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I appreciate your concern Reeve and tend to agree, it is difficult when people appear to have taken leave of their senses.
Demanding that people take 6 monthly injections of a therapeutic with no long term safety data which is known to have some very serious adverse affects so that they can have the freedom to work, travel attend education and access healthcare is literally insane. The fact that there are people who consider this as reasonable is representative of a mass psychosis.
Remember one of the main protagonists in this whole campaign (Fauci) is the same guy who was deeply involved in the AZT / AIDS scandal that led to many deaths in exactly the same way that is playing out now. Imagine the bastard child of Harold Shipman and Josef Mengele incubated in the bowels of Satan and given a prescription pad. What fookin madness is next.....
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:lol:
That's right and the Thatcher government had nothing at all to do with the infected blood scandal leading to thousands of deaths, not to mention the human experimentation with antivirals*.
Thank god for fact checking.
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I'm pointing out these people are corrupt and untrustworthy, fact checking via google and the bought and paid for organisations that do this is the modern equivalent of the 'Ministry of Truth'.
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RFK Jr. on Fauci (the blurb to his book)*
As director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Dr. Anthony Fauci dispenses $6.1 billion in annual taxpayer-provided funding for scientific research, allowing him to dictate the subject, content, and outcome of scientific health research across the globe. Fauci uses the financial clout at his disposal to wield extraordinary influence over hospitals, universities, journals, and thousands of influential doctors and scientists--whose careers and institutions he has the power to ruin, advance, or reward.
During more than a year of painstaking and meticulous research, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. unearthed a shocking story that obliterates media spin on Dr. Fauci . . . and that will alarm every American--Democrat or Republican--who cares about democracy, our Constitution, and the future of our children's health.
The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how "America's Doctor" launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.
In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the library of Gates' $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a partnership that would aim to control an increasingly profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy.
The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.
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Hehe I love Cannock Chase, used to climb in a scrappy quarry there as a kid.
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All the credentials needed to make a documentary for Panorama! Where do I sign up?
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52% for? It’s worse than I could imagine.
Propaganda designed to capture the minds of ‘intellectual elite’ becoming a vociferous minority effective at silencing those afraid to question due to fear of loss of status, money, reputation etc.
When governments start systematically removing those basic human needs what have people got left to lose by saying whatever they think.
Edit The rest of the ‘cattle’ get swept up by the endless fear pr0n and start buying bog roll en masse
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Haha fair point, I concede and am all ears :)
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A slowly growing group of NHS workers standing against mandatory covid therapeutic injection. Even if their concerns are unfounded can we really afford to let these people go. The majority are experienced clinical staff.
https://t.me/NHS100k
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We’re back into the realm of the delusion that the public health measures being suggested are something other than an authoritarian control agenda.
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The facts seem fairly clear, authoritarian control measures are being implemented in the name of public health. So I disagree with you Andy.
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How on earth is it bonkers to say vaccine mandates and lockdowns of the unvaccinated are authoritarian control measures?
With regards holding Johnson’s feet to the fire over policing and internet bills, that’s cloud cuckoo land
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I messaged Reeve about this earlier, but I reckon this isn't Dan. I don't know him personally, but this is just too bonkers.
Can a mod check up some how?and can someone who actually personally knows the really Dan ask him directly?
Feel free to ask me directly, pm me and I’ll send you my phone number. 👍🏻
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Vaccine mandates and forced lockdown / social segregation / health passports seems a pretty clear line to me.