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the shizzle => news => Topic started by: Johnny Brown on February 20, 2009, 10:38:10 pm
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The arete right of Cocoa team Special.
(http://www.zen59200.zen.co.uk/Adam/Galleries/Climbing/cocoateam.jpg)
BOOM.
(http://www.zen59200.zen.co.uk/Adam/Galleries/Climbing/bbgun_rylst.jpg)
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Fuck you lot must be fit dragging all those mats up that hill!!
Anyway Bon Effort, grade?
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Fine effort indeed.
I'm sure there's a thread on UKB somewhere with you saying this one was too blank to go, when I mentioned it Mr Brown. ;)
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He should name it "tragic light".
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Wow! Very nice indeed.
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Love the Coco team piccie Adam.
Who was filming, looks like a pro?!
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Grade wasn't really discussed. Ben did put in a few visits, though he was all over it today. In terms of quality, I think its straight in to the top five best boulder problems in yorkshire, the moves looked fantastic.
That's Rich Heap filming.
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I think its straight in to the top five best boulder problems in yorkshire
wow. so it's up there with the alliance, wss, master kush and......?
looks ace. nice one ben. i sincerely hope you strobed the shit out of it JB.
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If you'd have asked me last week what the best unclimbed line on Yorks grit was I'd have said this without any hesitation. Amazing line on a very beautiful piece of rock. Can't wait to see the film.
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Great effort Ben, awesome line.
This is the best seson on grit that I can recall with so much going down and stuff that was deemed impossible or the living end not so long ago. At this rate I wonder how long it will be before we run out of last great poblems?
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Hey guys thanks for all the comments, think this was definately a YYFY moment for me.
If you'd have asked me last week what the best unclimbed line on Yorks grit was I'd have said this without any hesitation. Amazing line on a very beautiful piece of rock. Can't wait to see the film.
Even though I am slightly biased I do agree, and once I had looked at it on a rope and seen the moves were good and it was very hard but doable I started to get rather over excited. This boulder problem has obssesed me over the last few weeks to the level where it was becoming unsafe for me to drive, I couldn't sleep and my wife had started talking about divorce. It is quite a nice to have all of my brain back to focus on important things like making up stories about Greg Wiggle having all his hair chopped off (ask May). It is also nice to be able to eat properly again as (all due to Jerrys book) I had gone on my first ever diet over the 2/3 weeks prior to doing it (and lost nearly 1/2 a stone but also needed 2 visits to osteo Kim - weight loss is not good for the body)
The crux of it all now is a name and a grade. I was thinking something like 8A+ but I could easily be a grade out either way. On previous visits it had felt really hard but I seemed to have it fairly dialled on friday.
Really struggling to think of a good name for it. My buddy the monkey? Sparrows and Pigeons at Rylstone? My great friend the lime sucker? Cocoa pops? help me out here...
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Jerry's Arete?
Can't be many of those about.
Seriously good effort, BB. Awesome line.
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Nice one Ben, I struggle to think how you managed to loose half a stone, you don't exactly weigh much to begin with.
Loosing half a stone is easy for me, I just go for a dump
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Lovin the feel good factor here, well done folks, greatly done Ben :)
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Really struggling to think of a good name for it. My buddy the monkey? Sparrows and Pigeons at Rylstone? My great friend the lime sucker? Cocoa pops? help me out here...
Kicking Horse on Broken Hill?
Dead Flag Blues?
bluebrad
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Nice work Ben, looks truly amazing. Good to see you back cranking hard.
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My great friend the lime sucker?
Please let it be this.
As an aside, good effort Ben. Looks well fucking Mexico.
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Hot choc squad?
I'm so stoked this has been done, it's such a fantastic bit of rock. Nice one Ben.
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Stunning line, well done El Mocho.
What about JB's "Riot Act" used in the thread title.
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Bit long, but I vote for: 'I always succeed. My footwork is precise and efficient. I am the strongest, fittest climber in the world.' Or 'Peahound'.
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What was the name of the author of the mental coaching book Jerry was using?
Great to see this go down - it needed to be climbed.
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Niall Grimes.
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all good.
Lanny Bassham wrote 'with winning in mind' and could be pretty good.
should get a top 5 and then put it to the vote:
Lanny Bassham
My great friend the lime sucker
Peahound (don't know where this comes from but I like it)
Well Mexico
Riot act (prob too good and sensible for me to use)
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'peahound' gets my vote
that or riot act
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'Rylestone Riot Act' is the name for me folks. I think it goes well with the butch nature of the line.
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Lanny Bassham for me, sounds like a Boosh character.
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Call it Rufus Onslatt!
The line is totally amazing, well done ben! :great: :bow:
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Peahound, truly inspired!
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Great effort. Looks amazing.
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You'll like Peahound even more when you see where it comes from. Unfortunately the internet seems to have passed it by.
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I should Cocoa Jerry
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+1 vote for Riot Act. Ace name for a problem. Please no more verbose nonsense names. Or shockingly linguistically unaesthetic and unevocative ones like "Gerty Berwick" >:(
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+1 vote for Riot Act.
+1 + 1
A great line ought to have a great name... please.
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You people have lost it. Riot act is a rubbish name, Gerty Berwick is brilliant.
As is Peahound.
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I don't like Riot Act. Firstly there's already a famous problem called Riot Act in the Frankenjura. Secondly it's a cliche (but not in an ironic way) and sounds like a name for a 3rd rate action movie (but not in a good way). "Rhylstone Riot Act" is slightly more acceptable. Plus I'm now bored of routes/problems named after people. "Peahound" is attractive, but doesn't seem to fit the stature of the line. There, that just about pisses on everyone's fires.
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The only downside to Riot Act is that theres a Skid Row tune of the same name on the album Slave to the Grind ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBQh29TbXpc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBQh29TbXpc)
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You say it's raining but you're pissing down my back....
Good song.
How about Wry Otter Attack? (See what I did there? Eh? Eh?)
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What about Women's Institute Special?
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Saggy old bird tits?
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An attempt to shoehorn in reference to both the location (next to cocoa team) and the fruit theme that seems de rigour these days: Chocolate Orange.
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An attempt to shoehorn in reference to both the location (next to cocoa team) and the fruit theme that seems de rigour these days: Chocolate Orange.
or Chocolate Oorrange Wednesday?(are those ad's still in the cinema? haven't been for years - can't get babysitters!)
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Hot cocoa? :shrug:
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Nice one Ben
Peahound Riot?
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Hot cocoa? :shrug:
I should cocoa.
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'Cocoa Peas' a delicious new cereal from kelloggs
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Pulsedog, beanwolf, chickpea hyena...
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I'm liking Pulsedog in a big way, it's the future.
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Legume raccoon; Horse bean horse...
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I don't like Riot Act. Firstly there's already a famous problem called Riot Act in the Frankenjura. Secondly it's a cliche (but not in an ironic way) and sounds like a name for a 3rd rate action movie (but not in a good way). "Rhylstone Riot Act" is slightly more acceptable. Plus I'm now bored of routes/problems named after people. "Peahound" is attractive, but doesn't seem to fit the stature of the line. There, that just about pisses on everyone's fires.
:agree:
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Sublime Cordial.
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Sub-lime VauDe Shorts.
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Slightly off topic
whats the truth about malcolms rise to power then jasper.
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http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11029.msg185686.html#msg185686 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,11029.msg185686.html#msg185686)
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I know,what about 'Peahound'?
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Lanny Bassham (would make for an interesting section in future guidebooks). In fact in 1000 years time people may even believe that Lanny was the first ascentionist).
Is ascentionist a word?
Rich
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Is ascentionist a word?
Rich
No but ascensionist (http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definitions/ascensionist) is ;)
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Peahound gets my vote.
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This is good, rather than desperatly trying to come up with 1 semi-decent name I now have hundreds to choose from.
I don't like Riot Act. Firstly there's already a famous problem called Riot Act in the Frankenjura. Secondly it's a cliche (but not in an ironic way) and sounds like a name for a 3rd rate action movie (but not in a good way).
I kinda felt this way, but thought it was worth having a normal type name rather than all fruit/animal related stuff.
I think it is between Lanny Bassman and Peahound although anything Tom suggests is good and he has a proven track record of quality route names (Lets get dead etc)
Pulsedog, beanwolf, chickpea hyena...
see, all good
I think May suggested 'Ladders and Bridges' (and a few weeks ago when looking at a photo of it 'Grey Crack') and it pays to keep her happy.
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it pays to keep her happy.
Like that one, Ben.
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it pays to keep her happy.
Like that one, Ben.
I always find that the origins of a routes name to be the very interesting, and I think that would work well too, as it adds a personal dimension (perhaps).
Hope you're keeping a note book of potential names for all the projects you're likely to crush (although this thread in and of itself is such a record!).
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I think May suggested 'Ladders and Bridges'
That's quite a good name, simple and vaguely ironic.
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Dull though, painfully dull.
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You want something more intellectual, JB?
You could go with Wordsworth's poem of The White Doe of Rylstone (already a route), but use the subtitle of The Fate of the Nortons.
Or local history/fiction such as Kildwick Murder, Monument of Mystery....
Or you could go with Peahound :lol:
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I quite like The Fate of the Nortons. A bit of intrigue there. As there is with Peahound. Where is Peahound? The only google result is now this thread.
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Hope you're keeping a note book of potential names for all the projects you're likely to crush (although this thread in and of itself is such a record!).
Found my list of new route names in the back of 'Ben's first climbing book' from when I was 11, they don't stand the test of time! I think it is lucky I didn't really do many new routes before I was 13 or so (I think my first was 'sten gun' on stennis head) or you would all think I was even worse at naming than I am now!
Dull though, painfully dull.
Just remember how long it has taken for May to like you, if she reads this (probably not long until she can at the rate she was going yesterday) you will be in serious trouble. She has said today that 'ladders and bridges' is going to be the name of her big new route so if I steal it there may be trouble.
I quite like The Fate of the Nortons. A bit of intrigue there. As there is with Peahound. Where is Peahound? The only google result is now this thread.
shit, I thought it was pretty much decided on Peahound now there is all kinds of other shit being suggested.
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The Fate of the Nortons is a quality name. I like Peahound but have the same reservations as Ru. It just doesn't seem fitting for this line for some reason.
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Coco Pops - you are a father after all.
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The Fate of the Nortons is a quality name. I like Peahound
Another vote for Peahound!
I think you've got to keep it in line with your oeuvre word, make sure its consistent in 20 years time. Fate of the Nortons would stick out like a sore thumb.
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Hound of the Peaskavilles?
Sorry :-[
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Peahound is succinct at least, and "hound" evokes both your own hound and the wild moorland setting.
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Might I say that a committee (as in the Let's Name Ben's Route Committee) is no way to make a decision on a route name. Better your own crap one than a committee decision. One thing I would say is at least Peahound has only 2 syllables which makes it at least 4 syllables better than most other suggestions.
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No you are all off track. Obviously the best name is :
Rylstone Cowboy
;D
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You could go with Wordsworth's poem of The White Doe of Rylstone (already a route), but use the subtitle of The Fate of the Nortons.
Or local history/fiction such as Kildwick Murder, Monument of Mystery....
Not sure May would get into Wordsworth. She strikes me as more odf a Dr Seuss kind of girl.
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Might I say that a committee (as in the Let's Name Ben's Route Committee) is no way to make a decision on a route name. Better your own crap one than a committee decision.
What a grumpy guts!! I don't think anyone is really suggesting Ben should name it as per UKB request. In fact, who thought of Peahound, the most popular suggestion?
One thing I would say is at least Peahound has only 2 syllables which makes it at least 4 syllables better than most other suggestions.
There's logic for ya :-\
How about "Jam Cat"- 2 syllables.
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peahound
peahound
peahound
peahound
peahound
peahound
you know where peahound is adam
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As an ex Cocoa club member I like Fate of the Nortons ;D
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I've given up caring. Ask May to come up with a name for it, that would be nice.
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No you are all off track. Obviously the best name is :
Rylstone Cowboy
;D
I like this one too
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Dangle Berry?!
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How about 'Gilbert Ryle'.
a representative of the generation of British ordinary language philosophers. An advocate of Dualism:
In philosophy of mind, dualism is a set of views about the relationship between mind and matter, which begins with the claim that mental phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical:
"Ideas on mind/body dualism originate at least as far back as Zarathushtra. Plato and Aristotle deal with speculations as to the existence of an incorporeal soul that bore the faculties of intelligence and wisdom. They maintained, for different reasons, that people's "intelligence" (a faculty of the mind or soul) could not be identified with, or explained in terms of, their physical body.[
In philosophy of mind, dualism is a set of views about the relationship between mind and matter, which begins with the claim that mental phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical".
Some argument for the idea of a soul i think?
Gilbert's a great name though.
As is Peahound :)
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Oh! Forgot to mention. Fucking Top effort.
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as a late entrant into this debate, and as a new father who's had no sleep for about 72 hours, I'd like to throw this up the flagpole: names like "peahound", "gerty berwick" and "my friend-of-the-family the pineapple" are fucking dreadful. These are monster lines and deserve monster names, these aren't some toss lines in the arse end of the slate quarries you know. Names you need to aspire to, names so fly that you need to inform air traffic control when you're about to say them. To be a complete climber, you need to be able to send and to name. look to the likes of moffatt, gaskins, moon and fawcett for guidance. People say that the great threats to british climbing are shit like wirebrushing, toproping, chipping, access issues - I say bullshit, the tide of shit new route names needs capping in the ass before it turns into some kind of linguistically effluent bloodbath. these things matter for fucks sake. And on that bombshell I bid you good day.
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These are monster lines and deserve monster names, these aren't some toss lines in the arse end of the slate quarries you know. Names you need to aspire to, names so fly that you need to inform air traffic control when you're about to say them. To be a complete climber, you need to be able to send and to name. look to the likes of moffatt, gaskins, moon and fawcett for guidance.
"Ben's Arete". Perfect.
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at last, someone who's with the program.
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when you're as fly as BB Guns and some of his peers, you need to be dropping a few "Ben's Arete/Roof/Traverse/Dihedral*" type names here and there. Gotta think of the legacy.
*delete as appropriate.
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These are monster lines and deserve monster names, these aren't some toss lines in the arse end of the slate quarries you know. Names you need to aspire to, names so fly that you need to inform air traffic control when you're about to say them. To be a complete climber, you need to be able to send and to name. look to the likes of moffatt, gaskins, moon and fawcett for guidance.
"Ben's Arete". Perfect.
Agree with sentiment, but is this not edging into Mr Moon's naming rights territory? Also eponymous feature names normally come about because the original name is forgotten, or the FA couldn't be arsed naming the problem in the first place.
This is a grand line, it needs a grand name. C'mon Ben dig deep and give us something timeless, epic and inspiring.
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in that case it could be "not that bens arete" or "t'other bens arete"
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BenBs Arete
perhaps Benbs Arete reads better?
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BenBs Arete
perhaps Benbs Arete reads better?
I'm sure guidebook writers/printers will love that (although if they use the type setting software LaTeX (http://www.latex-project.org/) anyway it shouldn't be a problem).
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BB - B-Boy.
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B=mc2 ?
or Peahound...
...or Crunchy-Nut Corncrakes
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:spank:
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Was randomly up at Rylstone last week and couldn't resist a quick try; the movement seems really unique - it's certainly one of the best highballs on grit, right up there with with Careless Torque, Superbloc and Piton Crack.
Did you use the high left pocket, Ben? From what point is it 'only' 7b+? And do I have to read Jerry's book first?
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Has a name finally been decided?
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Has a name finally been decided?
the democratic ukb name is, by consensus, Rylstone Cowboy (26.9%)
not that that means anything....
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Don McClean innit?
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Don McClean innit?
No, it isn't :lol:
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Its Peahound.
Did you use the high left pocket, Ben? From what point is it 'only' 7b+?
I think the crux moves are getting the pocket and then using it to get established on the rib.
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The crux is getting the high left pocket, and it was from this hold to the top that I reckoned 7b+jw.
Was randomly up at Rylstone last week
Quality! I often find myself randomly at crags with a 50min approach and randomly find a rope and boots in my bag.
I know this is gonna dissapoint a few, and I was very tempted by Peahound, but it is Lanny Bassham.
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Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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thats even worse than peahound. hard to believe its possible.
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Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
:agree:
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Cheers Ben. Should I randomly find myself back there, I will try and put this information to good use.
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how can you put the fact it is probably undergraded and has a bad name to use?