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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by seankenny on Today at 03:55:50 pm »

Exactly, Wellsy.

A plea: “what we allowed” by “elites”. Can we drop this nonsense?

Society is a mass of competing interests, with no single overarching power which will permit or refuse permission. The mess we are in is because the interests of money are so powerful and create huge influence and disinformation. By way of example, consider what a truly rational approach to taxation and fossil fuels might look like. The Koch brothers and their peers aren’t your mum and your dad, however. Let’s not speak like children.

Well, as I said about 50 posts ago:

“Behind much of what he writes is the implicit assumption that powers that be like to keep people down… rather than the recognition that running even a simple economy is very difficult.”

We could have had fifty posts discussing Tallin’s public transport system and methane powered super yachts, but no…

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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by mrjonathanr on Today at 03:26:09 pm »

Why would you need to specify that it's a genuine question?
A main party other than the Conservatives will win.

 I’d cheerfully vote Green - and have done - but in my swing constituency, any vote that isn’t for the LibDems is effectively a vote for the Tories. Hence my curiosity about what voting Green means for the likely outcome.

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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by teestub on Today at 02:35:31 pm »

I had assumed you lived in Cornwall, isn’t the whole county Conservative currently?

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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by BrutusTheBear on Today at 01:19:54 pm »

Why would you need to specify that it's a genuine question?
A main party other than the Conservatives will win.

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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by Fultonius on Today at 01:16:03 pm »

Call me cynical, but I'm deeply unconvinced by the idea that meaningful policy on climate, that would actually make a difference to the extent that scientists and activists demand, is possible in a democratic society. You're essentially asking people to vote for a huge decrease in their standard of living. Might get some traction after a massive natural disaster that CC caused and therefore focused politician and electorate minds but not before imo. That is a pretty depressing world view I accept but I struggle to get past it. In the unlikely event such policies were enacted by a party in government, it would be so unpopular the opposition would win a landslide on the promise of repealing them.

While there's probably truth in the idea that we will fall short of what science says needs done, the closer we can be to that ideal, and the more prepared we are for the fall out, the higher the chances are that we scrape through without total ecological and political collapse.

I mean, we could follow Europe and vote far right and accelerate that but I'd rather not...

I've voted SNP in the UK elections for years as labour were nowhere in Scotland and it was a safer bet to keep the Tories out, but now I'd almost be tempted to support the wider UK need (in my eyes) to give the Tories a major kicking, and vote Labour. Also, with the Indy agenda floundering it seems to me that its probably overall more beneficial for Scotland help England/rUK to change course as a whole and we'll benefit from that too.  I guess I'm saying the bigger agenda is more important the independence just now.

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for sale / wanted / Re: Unparallel vim UK 8.5

« Last post by rjtrials on Today at 01:03:02 pm »

I'm definitely interested if you don't mind shipping to the US

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shootin' the shit / Re: House Buying Beta

« Last post by Paul B on Today at 12:57:24 pm »

Walk away, especially if you're suspicious that subsidence might still be ongoing. A recent subsidence claim I worked on involved 3 years of monitoring by structural engineers followed by a ground investigation, all of which costs £ thousands, and that's just to find out the problem.

I came here to say this. If it's moving/moved there'll be signs of distress but the reality is you won't know which it is without monitoring it, for a period of time.

Walk away (or potentially run) IMO.

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bouldering / Re: Bring out your dabs

« Last post by 36chambers on Today at 12:20:03 pm »

Wasn't all spotting like this in the 90s? Swear there are vids of Moon being spotted similarly. Was it the growth of pads that created the "dabbing/touching the climber is cheating and invalidates the ascent" zeitgeist?

instantly made me think of this old clip, which I have lodged in my memory purely because of the spotting (well, and maybe Katzy's hair). The wonderwall spotting later on is much the same.

https://youtu.be/anlpM-8Ggbw?si=Y57JK93h_Kyq097Y&t=58

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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by mrjonathanr on Today at 12:12:37 pm »

Genuine question. What is the most likely result for a green voter in your constituency Brutus?
A Green MP?
Labour?
LibDem?
Or a Conservative because the more left leaning votes are split?

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shootin' the shit / Re: UK General Election 2024

« Last post by BrutusTheBear on Today at 11:54:21 am »

It's a free vote folks, Labour are set to walk it without so much as a commitment to anything significant, Conservatives have destroyed themselves and everything else for that matter (creating an open goal), Lib Dems say vote for us it's the only way you'll stop the Conservatives with no commitments either. You can vote with your conscious it will not affect the outcome.

I will be voting Green as none of the 'main' parties appear to be offering anything remotely progressive or likely to create the change we desperately need.