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diet, training and injuries / Re: Internet based drama about differently shaped lumps of wood
« Last post by mrjonathanr on Yesterday at 08:38:53 am »I don’t quite know what I think about these unlevel edges.
Firstly, the reason you can lift more weight with an unlevel edge is the finger positioning on a flat edge creates mechanical disadvantages which these address. Great. So the edge allows me to train heavier loads in idealised conditions. Is weight a good proxy for strength? Same force in a mechanically advantageous position means more weight held, but I don’t see that lower weight in a mechanically disadvantaged position means the muscle is being trained to produce less force, just that it’s being applied less efficiently. Surely the advantage of a flat edge is it replicates real world application and what we want is force in those conditions. So a flat edge trains muscle to produce force under mechanical disadvantage. That’s just climbing, right?
So is there an advantage in training under mechanically advantaged conditions? It seems to me that some fingers are not loaded enough on a flat edge to get a good training stimulus and the unlevel edges address this. So that’s a clear positive.
Additionally, a better distribution of load and joint angles should be less tweaky. No one wants a finger injury from training.
So my take is that they’re a good addition, strengthening some fingers/finger positions and being less injury inducing, but flat edge training still has value.
Firstly, the reason you can lift more weight with an unlevel edge is the finger positioning on a flat edge creates mechanical disadvantages which these address. Great. So the edge allows me to train heavier loads in idealised conditions. Is weight a good proxy for strength? Same force in a mechanically advantageous position means more weight held, but I don’t see that lower weight in a mechanically disadvantaged position means the muscle is being trained to produce less force, just that it’s being applied less efficiently. Surely the advantage of a flat edge is it replicates real world application and what we want is force in those conditions. So a flat edge trains muscle to produce force under mechanical disadvantage. That’s just climbing, right?
So is there an advantage in training under mechanically advantaged conditions? It seems to me that some fingers are not loaded enough on a flat edge to get a good training stimulus and the unlevel edges address this. So that’s a clear positive.
Additionally, a better distribution of load and joint angles should be less tweaky. No one wants a finger injury from training.
So my take is that they’re a good addition, strengthening some fingers/finger positions and being less injury inducing, but flat edge training still has value.