[Paul B]

I could get you prices off talkphotography but that'd be even worse for you (with the 5 and the 7).

[Adam Lincoln]

I could get you prices off talkphotography but that'd be even worse for you (with the 5 and the 7).

Seem to be between £160 and £180 on ebay...? Seems fair.

[Paul B]

The last one on TP sold for £130 in absolutely mint condition, it looked brand new and it goes without saying that it had everything with it.

[Adam Lincoln]

The last one on TP sold for £130 in absolutely mint condition, it looked brand new and it goes without saying that it had everything with it.

Cheers Paul.

[dave]

I know this is only "lomo" but it looks kinda cool. Interchangeable lens 6x12, 58m and 90mm for under 200 sheets? That's gotta be a winner for a bit of fun unless its absolute shit or falls to bits.

uk.shop.lomography.com/cameras/belair-cameras/belair-city-slicker

microsites.lomography.com/belair/#cameras

[fatkid2000]

Any advice from those with good camera knowledge would be appreciated.

I'm looking to get a new camera for my wife mainly - I think I'm looking at what seems to fall into the system camera area. I don't want something as big as a dslr, that can also take video clips / short films. Built in flash. I find my point and shot sony limiting - although it is 4-5 years old.

Their seem to be good review of some olympus's on the net - so that may be a starting point.

Budget around £500-600 - although a bit higher if it makes a huge difference.

Any advice gratefully received.

[dave]

Sounds like a micro 4/3rds from Olympus or Panasonic would suit you if you don't want the DSLR bulk but something better than a compact. If you want a built in EVF then a G3 plus a zoom would be on budget and would give you a lot of bang for you dollar.

[tomtom]

Is EVF a viewfinder? Soz, having problems with the TLA's

[Durbs]

Electronic Viewfinder... i.e. mini screen as opposed to true optical one.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

So rebooting this thread, views on Canon S110 v Lumix LX7?

Both available around £300ish. S110 slightly smaller? LX7 better optics?

Hols coming up and can't be arsed to take all the DSLR stuff.

[Johnny Brown]

If the S110 is like the S90/ S100 the size difference is significant.

I've got the LX-5 and rate it. A few manual controls you will recognise (think the Sxx is all buttons), the aspect ratio switch is especially neat (and not just a simple crop function). Step zoom is nice too - classic 35mm focal lengths. Only downsides are slight bulk and lenscap-on-a-string.

Dave should be along soon to tell you to get a m4/3rds...

[cofe]

I sold my LX5 as it was too bulky (it's still small, mind) and got an S100. Both great cameras, similar IQ, depends what features you're after. S100 much easier to use one handed I find.

[Johnny Brown]

Yeah, you need a hand to stop the lens cap flapping in front!

[dave]

If you're considering a LXn then just: Get a m4/3rds.

Sxxx is a different league of compactness, were talking backpocket of your jeans, fagpacket etc.

[Adam Lincoln]

Yeah, you need a hand to stop the lens cap flapping in front!

This can be fixed though, with the lens caps mod. Assuming its the same as the lx3.

[Johnny Brown]

Sure. With a bit of practice you can hold it out of the way with the camera hand. Its no biggie.

Unlike Dave, still think the LXs are a lot smaller than any M4/3rds options, especially once you compare similar spec lenses.

[jamiev]

Would appreciate ukb hive-brain opinions re purchase of 2nd hand GF3, GF1...or something else?

Currently only own a Lumix TZ7 - nice and compact and good results but with obvious limitations.

Used to shoot with a (film) SLR...in fact...any afficionados of old cameras on here want a Nikon F301?!

Would like something with more versatility than the TZ7 & opportunity to get stuck into proper photography again, though not as bulky as a DSLR - still to be used on trips etc.

Currently locally there's a 2nd hand GF3 + 14-42mm lens at £150 and a GF1 + 14-45mm lens at £200.  (Would also buy a prime lens). Any opinions from users?  Or alternative ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[dave]

I'd go for a GF1 over a 2 or 3 anyday. There are some 2nd hand GX1s coming up pretty cheap these days too. For a prime you wanna get the 20mm 1.7, its well weapon.

[jamiev]

Thanks Dave. Had a fiddle w/ gf3: didn't take to it. gf1 looks nice - but g3 available elsewhere for same price...

That prime does look shiny.

[chris j]

I get on well with my G3. The panasonic 20mm f1.7 and the olympus 45mm f1.8 make a good combination. Now I just need to save up for the olympus 75mm f1.8 but that's a lot more.

With the kit lenses, if you find one with the older 14-45mm it is supposed to be slightly sharper than the 14-42 (but a little more bulky).

[jamiev]

cheers Chris

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Shockproof, Dust-proof, Water-Sealed, Robust & Rugged...and completely affordable. 
http://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/pd/Leica-X-U-Typ-113-Digital-Camera-18435_18435.htm

[duncan]

Current camera is an iphone 5S and I'd like something capable of producing significanly better images than this but still be portable on long rock routes.

I've previously owned and lost an Panasonic LX3 which I liked very much other than it's lack of viewfinder, was a good size, and whose picture quality from 8 years ago is markedly better than I'm producing now. I have a Canon S100 but the shutter release doesn't work (an known issue which Canon refused to acknowledge), gratifyingly tiny but a less marked an improvement over a good phone.

I don't think i want/need an interchageable lens system unless something not much bigger than an LX3 is available. A viewfinder is highly desirable. A wide range to 28mm equivalent is essential, to 24mm equivalent highly desirable. Lens speed is more important than range (the 24-90 range of the LX3 was ideal).

Budget £300?

[Johnny Brown]

That's easy, LX7. I lost my LX5 a couple of years back and the 7 was a worthwhile upgrade from that. I don't notice it on my harness, leading up to E5 on sea cliffs and mountain routes.

[dave]

Fuji x20? Reasonably compact, viewfinder, well made.