[chummer]

erm, I meant I couldn't afford the LX1 but am considering the XZ1 (bloody x's and 1's..) but really can't afford to spend £300..any recommendations that fit just below this are welcomed.

[cofe]

Think GX100 IQ is much better than GX200, though it's a slower camera:

http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Ricoh-GX100-&-VF-Viewfinder-_42557.html

Or get an LX3:

http://www.ffordes.com/product/11091316034481

[dave]

Just get a teleconverter. Or a D4.

[chummer]

Cheers for that Cofe, just spoke to Ffordes and for the money it seems like the best glass for sure, with some usefull accessories and I fancy a change from Ricoh me thinks if only for the fiddly zoom when in gloves and to try something different.

[Tom de Gay]

Apparently if you send in a GX100 for lens repair these days the whole lens unit and sensor is replaced with a unit from a GXR S10 module. Worth thinking about.

[Johnny Brown]

Interesting, my GX100 is unusable due to crap on the sensor. Not unusual apparently. Will take it to Lehman's and see what they say.

Think GX100 IQ is much better than GX200

Really? I thought it was just that the GX200 is no better.

[Paul B]

fiddly zoom when in gloves and to try something different.

I wouldn't want to have to use the LX3 joystick with gloves on. Although the S90/95/100 are smaller the control wheel around the lens is a really neat feature and must be a lot easier to manipulate with gloves on than the stick or wheel of an LX3/5?

The LX on Ffordes has now gone, so maybe you've already decided?

[Duma]

fiddly zoom when in gloves and to try something different.

I wouldn't want to have to use the LX3 joystick with gloves on. Although the S90/95/100 are smaller the control wheel around the lens is a really neat feature and must be a lot easier to manipulate with gloves on than the stick or wheel of an LX3/5?

the xz-1 has nicked the control wheel idea off canon and its great.

[chummer]

Interesting, my GX100 is unusable due to crap on the sensor. Not unusual apparently. Will take it to Lehman's and see what they say.

Think GX100 IQ is much better than GX200

Really? I thought it was just that the GX200 is no better.

Wonder if they'll do this with the GX200? As an aside I was always a little disappointed with the GX200 after having the GRs1, which I love, seems Ricoh may have lost a little when they went digital, but I guess this could be just the digital V's film thang 

With regard to the joystick I'm about to find out...I snapped up ( ) the LX3 from Ffordes, 'twas a good price with the accessories, the glass sounds top class, and I'm pretty short on time. Cheers for the advice, seems I can't go too far wrong with the LX3, really lookin forward to getting to know it. Thanks again for the responses 

[slackline]

Nikon have jumped on the mirrorless/ interchangable lens bandwagon

Oddly they have opted for a smaller sensor size than m4/3rds.

There is also the Nikon V1 which isn't available in pink.

[Johnny Brown]

The Sony bodies look really small - some of the lens options are too. Same big sensor size as the Fuji (APS-C).

But the lenses are meant to be poor even the primes.

I'm not so sure. Even top advertising phtogoraphers are using them.

[dave]

Hold on to your credit card JB: more or less fullframe 645 phase bobby back, 80mp.

[slackline]

No need to bother with these micro 4/3rds things, just get a mount for your ifern



 

[tomtom]

Naa, they're rubbish. Obscures the flash

[Johnny Brown]

Who needs image stabilisation?

[Johnny Brown]

Ooh, as if the SD1 wasn't a daft enough price already, get in clad in shit:

[dave]

Looks like a rover dashboard wrapped round a bad dream.

[cofe]

Sigma have clearly gone batshit.

On a less walnut tangent, anyone in the market for a decent compact for jack shit, can get a used S90 for jack shit on ffordes. i couldn't bring myself to buy it.

[cofe]

Alas, only two shutter buttons.

[Johnny Brown]

Useful size comparison site here:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#157,101

[dave]

Only seems to have current models on.

[SA Chris]

Only seems to have current models on.

Word.

[dave]

I don't consider myself worthy to comment on the image quality but I haven't been disappointed yet.

My 20mm is the sharpest thing I have ever used, on any format. You shouldn't have any worries there.

[cofe]

A bit of a franken-camera: Pen Mini + Lumix 20mm + VF3 viewfinder + Flipbac grippy thing. It's definitely compact, about a quarter of the bulk of my 40D despite the only slightly smaller sensor. Viewfinder is nice to use, especially for video, but feels a bit fragile. Menus take a while to comprehend. I don't consider myself worthy to comment on the image quality but I haven't been disappointed yet.

I've been looking at compacts again, and have ended up looking at the m4/3rds. If you don't get the most recent in the range the prices are good. And although they're not tiny, they're small enough if you just want to carry one camera about. This combo looks really good. Anyone used any of the slightly older PENs?

[dave]

Apparently harrisons have/had a few epl1s in for under a ton word.