Fine wine thread (Read 138232 times)

Houdini · June 04, 2008, 08:58:50 pm

Don't forget Sloper's Tip the Taste Vinage wines, memorise the logo

lagerstarfish · June 04, 2008, 09:06:14 pm

I'm thinking along the lines of a video/photo diary so I don't have to rely on my own memory to remember the labels. I probably won't have internet access whilst there, so need the plan agreed/recommended/suggested before I go.

Houdini · June 04, 2008, 09:09:32 pm

Video diary is a great idea. You must visit the Malesherbes Wednesday AM market and buy your fruit/fromage/fowl/fish/frog's legs there.

Top notch produce.

lagerstarfish · June 04, 2008, 09:13:08 pm

Quote from: Houdini on June 04, 2008, 09:09:32 pm

Video diary is a great idea. You must visit the Malesherbes Wednesday AM market and buy your fruit/fromage/fowl/fish there.

Top notch produce.

Should I start a separate thread for my "Ultimate Enjoment Plan"?

Joepicalli · June 04, 2008, 09:17:41 pm

Quote from: Houdini on June 04, 2008, 08:58:50 pm

Don't forget Sloper's Tip the Taste Vinage wines, memorise the logo

Not seen or heard of this in UK can we get it (I'm assuming yes as you quote sloper). Do you have a where and a price?

Houdini · June 04, 2008, 09:28:34 pm

Background

http://www.tastevin-bourgogne.com

Introduced by Sloper in Font.

Houdini · June 04, 2008, 09:30:36 pm

Quote from: lagerstarfish on June 04, 2008, 09:13:08 pm

Should I start a separate thread for my "Ultimate Enjoyment Plan"?

Yes.

Cookie · June 04, 2008, 09:37:28 pm

I seem to remember reading that 2000 was the Holy Grail year for Bordeaux (or in fact most central French reds), and if you can get your hands on a case or twelve, you should do so before the prices go even higher.

Of the 2005 Bordeaux which has been released, the reviews say it's a close second to 2000. Buy that while it's still cheap, there are currently some good deals to be had.

Being a French wine geek who buys releases from the same two chateaux each year (one extremely well known and one less so, in case you were wondering), I'd go so far as to say that 2003 is perfectly acceptable, but 2002 and 2004 aren't worth the bother.

Houdini · June 04, 2008, 09:43:18 pm

FAO Joe RE ~ T/Vinage Pinot

lagerstarfish · June 04, 2008, 09:49:07 pm

Quote from: Houdini on June 04, 2008, 09:30:36 pm

Quote from: lagerstarfish on June 04, 2008, 09:13:08 pm
Should I start a separate thread for my "Ultimate Enjoyment Plan"?

Yes.

good call

Joepicalli · June 04, 2008, 10:31:05 pm

Quote from: Houdini on June 04, 2008, 09:43:18 pm

FAO Joe RE ~ T/Vinage Pinot

Thanks.

GraemeA · June 05, 2008, 06:18:09 am

To kill 2 birds with one stone.

Percy - septic shouting starts in earnest tomorrow, Gaz has checked out iso, it's as big as our hold store.

Joe - to insinuate that I tricked you into making a bet after a mere 2 bottles each makes you sound like a shandy drinking southern - if you are indeed trying to claim that I acted in a caddish manner then I have no option but to call you a woolly back and a geordie

Joepicalli · June 05, 2008, 07:15:38 pm

Right some help required from the combined wine snob element- Bottle of Alain Michelot '98 Nuits St. George (unfortunately not premier cru otherwise I'd know to keep). Mr Johnson says they're drinking but, he and every one else says it was a bloody complicated vintage and everything from trash to very good got made. Now Michelot is a good producer so I hope for good things, but, can anyone give me some solid (pref. from having drunk some) info?
Yours in hope

Sloper · June 05, 2008, 07:19:29 pm

No idea, why not crack open a bot. and give us your views?

Joepicalli · June 05, 2008, 07:24:28 pm

There's only the one bottle, picked up on spec. at a stupid (almost Houdiniesque (have I invented a new adjective?)) price
so I'm trying to chase down some solid beta.

soapy · June 05, 2008, 08:54:56 pm

nope, soz, but here's some nsg'98 cellar notes

Houdini · June 10, 2008, 01:44:29 pm

Here at Chez hOU's we've renounced the evils of alcohol for a full week w/ the idea to spend what is saved on a particularly nice bottle from a fantastic micro Italian-only shop recently discovered: posh olive oil, coffee beans and an excellent selection of wines crammed into one small room.

Obviously, the DT's are murdering us so it's badminton every evening to distract ourselves . . .

Joepicalli · June 10, 2008, 11:06:47 pm

Oh forgot to post the results of the Nuits de St George '98. Pleasant, which damns with faint praise, the fruit was on the wane and there were not enough deeper flavours to compensate, the colour was good, even, going to a brick red at the rim, and there were hints of strawberries while smelling faded roses; the earth thing that old burgundy does: but it was all sort of waving from a distance. Oh well!

Sloper · June 11, 2008, 12:10:13 pm

It seems it was what I would describe as a 'graveyard' ie. plenty of faded floral arrangements but that it plays on your memory rather than the present.

Joepicalli · June 29, 2008, 11:03:54 pm

'07 en premier. I've done most of my buying but anyone got a personal knowledge of cheapish (£140-220 a case) fillers-in which punch above the vintage's weight?

soapy · June 30, 2008, 09:38:26 am

not en primeur but, pierre-andre dumas did a 2006 lovely example of both brouilly and beaujolais villages - mouthwatering cranberry and damson notes with a light hint of the characteristic mineral and earth of burgundy; perfect summer drinking

Houdini · July 09, 2008, 05:14:51 pm

Blase I know but I've been shopping in Tesco's the last few weeks for wine. 6 bottles gets 25% off which hasn't been ignored.

Best of the crop have been an Argentinian Shiraz (tesco's finest) at a hefty 14.5% £8 ish (but snaffled at half price, naturally) and well, nothing, oh some Cote du Rhone's which were a first for me, lovely body, must drink more.

Biggest disappointment from the countless bottles supped was a Chilean Pinot which I swear was Shiraz it was so powerful and meaty. It was offensively strong and disorrientating to try and pindown on the palette; took half a bottle before it tasted like pinot . . . Think I'll stick to French and German in future.

Found a nice Syrah @ £13 in tescos too which was nice but frankly £5 overpriced and once more I'm bothered by the whole price/taste equation. Sorry about the vaguenesh . . . Comes w/ the turf . . .

Houdini · July 12, 2008, 11:49:15 am

The Chilean pinot was Los Fresnos vineyard 07. £8

The French syrah was Saint Joseph 05 £6 (< from £13)

The ace Cote du Rhone was La Chasse de/du Pape (sp?) Reserve 07, which I finished last night and was just great and I think really cheap, around £6, kinda turbid.

Any recommendations for Cote du Rhone wines appreciated, and 100% syrahs.

Had another cheap and cheerful surprise recently: Tagus Creek (Portugal) Shiraz and Trincadeira 06. £5ish, halfway house between French and New World style shiraz, never had trincadeira before - took the edge and fruit off the shiraz well.

Jaspersharpe · July 23, 2008, 08:58:26 am

I agree Houd. That Chasse du Pape is nice, and cheap. I agree with this reviewer........

http://www.ciao.co.uk/La_Chasse_du_Pape_Cotes_du_Rhone_rouge_Reserve__Review_5465959

For those of us who like a glass of wine or six this article is quite interesting. Not surprising but interesting, especially at a time where the government are spending more and more money and effort trying to scare us into drinking less............

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article2698024.ece

.........it turns out the figures that they rely on are total nonsense. Cunts.

lagerstarfish · July 23, 2008, 09:21:18 am

Quote from: Jaspersharpe on July 23, 2008, 08:58:26 am

.........it turns out the figures that they rely on are total nonsense.

I'll let you know when the results of my alcohol damage review are ready. This will be based on a representative sample of regular drinkers from The Vine, The Broadfield and the pavements on London Road, The Moor and Castle Market - real SCIENCE.