[Percy B]

How are the saddles sores - still keeping you up at night? Don't worry - you won't be in the saddle much where I'm taking you tomorrow

[fatdoc]

i'm sore...

dave will keep you entertained, i'll hang back and watch!!

legs sore too

i'm resorting to drugs: wine now, early night, then lethal does of anti inflammatories in the morning, via 3 coffees!!

oh god, wat have i got myself into   

it's not even the sunday shocker yet!!!

[Paul B]

Fatdoc Re: your post in another thread

After tonights session I don't think i'm yet strong enough to grip a bar securely enough to ride.

[fatdoc]

your time will come...

[Fatleg]

Percy I will have to cancel today as I've been called into work - and do not seem able to leave - Really sorry.

[Percy B]

No bother. Drop me a line to rearrange another day if your keen.

[Percy B]

Oh, and FD - your average speed is getting better....not bad considering how knackered you were feeling this morning. Just over 26kph fopr todays ride isn't too shoddy!

[fatdoc]

after swooping off the top of the walls  of your fine establishment for 3 hours today I'm sure my legs will still feel like shite tomorrow.... hmmm 20 mph headwind... nice!!

I think there will be 3 or 4 of us...

9 a.m. beauchief as per the norm..

[fatdoc]

well..

i dont think so... at the moment if you think i'm going out (apart from to see how many slates my roofs just lost) I think it would be truly lethal.

I'm going on the trainer.


tlr mate, hope you read this before going out... I've lost yr mobile.. i've txted everyone else.

[tlr]

No worries. I assumed that would be the case. It would be very dangerous out there at the moment.

I may try and get out later if it calms down, or down the wall for an hour or two. Or maybe I'll go and buy myself a turbo trainer....

I'll PM you my mobile for next time.

Tim

[Percy B]

Nice to see Operation Certain Death has been cancelled. If the bloody wind ever dies down I might try and grab an hour later. Defo up for a long ride mid week if anybody else is skiving.... time for more miles in the legs I think. Currently passing the time reading a nice article on Shimano vesus Campag in the new Rouleur mag. Well worth a read.....

[Fatleg]

And now there is SRAM offering a sub 2000g groupset. Rouleur nice magazine - bit expensive though.

[chappers]

 went out with rutlandcc saturday and put an extra loop on over strines on the way back. when we got in my mate said "yeah about 45 miles?", turns out that he is a beast and we had ridden 60. i was fucked up. good moment for me though has to be staying with the group all the way up cragx for the first time since i only got on a bike for the first time in september. (or dropping a wheel grabber up the a57 before the strines turn off)    .

[fatdoc]

impressive chappers

rutland have a godforsaken reputation of being a bunch of trumped up c*nts. even the slow group has attitude. *dont overtake us we're rutland* , " no riding with us unless you have guards and flaps"

sod that.

audition to enter a cc??? f8ck off! (yes, really)... miss 3 training rides - coz of work- and get shit for it??

er... right.

have you seen their website??? god... so much for welcoming new starters into the sport  ???

you must be pretty fit from your running though, respect.

this is where Yoss and perc's idea of the works easy (ish.. ) riders cc comes into it's own,


you wouldnt believe how hard it can be to find an accessible cc as a total noob in the region of sheff. peeps like perc and some mates I know help out of the goodness of their little hearts - like wot ccs used to do.

I have detailed insider knowledge here, from some of the best in rutland... they care not for their reputation. I suggest steering clear.

your fitness chappers has set you right - impressive as I've said. for the rest of us - Thanks rutland....

[Percy B]

Aye - my opinion of the club scene is there are a few that seem very 'sniffy' to say the least. I just like riding my bike and pushing myself a bit. I don't need that shit too.....
Having said that, some clubs are awesome. Although not a club, the groups of people who go to the SQT sessions at the velodrome seem a nice crowd - always helpful and full of good advice on all aspects of track racing, etc. SheffRec CC was also recommended to me as being a decent group of folks to ride with - just the thought of riding over to Wadsley Bridge before the start of a club run might be the straw that breaks the proverbial camels back - 10 mile hilly warm-up just to get to the start of a ride ain't so much fun.

I have considered joining a club again in the last few months and doing a bit of road racing, but haven't found a goodun yet... not looking too hard though. Training when I can and the sportive/track scene is enough for me at the moment. I used to be a member of Southborough Wheelers for a short while back in the day (1989?! christ...) and they were pretty decent folks and helpful, but a good Kent based club ain't much use for us Sheffield roadies though.

Road cycling seems way more cliquey than climbing!

[Duma]

this thread really needs moving over to diet, training & injuries....

[chappers]

i have had no problems with rutland thus far, i live in preston, i am not a member of the club and have turned up for 4 rides with a student mate living in sheffield (also not a member). that said, a guy on his first ride out with the club this weekend didnt keep up on cragx and didnt know the route so i hope he got home (i didnt know he was behind or i would have waited, even though i am hardly in a position to wait as pretty much the weakest rider there). i would not appreciate that treatment. yes i am lucky to have started cycling with good fitness, but i cant wait until my legs are stronger!

anyone know a good club up here in preston for weekend club runs?
anyone going to watch the world champs in manc? i was thinking the saturday...get a beer over there?

[Fatleg]

I was out on my own a few weeks ago in the peak and overtook rutland cc. I was going up Hathersage hill towards the fox house. I was abit done in having done a load of hills. There was two groups of them about 30 yards apart, I went past the first group with no real bother and was sitting in behind the second group waiting for traffic to get past. When I went past the second group on a piece of open road with good visibility they gave me a right load of verbals for drafting  of them and that I shouldn't be overtaking them. Bunch of twats in my book, I was going quicker and it was safe to pass.
Cycle clubs just seem abit protective of their own egos.

[Yossarian]

but a good Kent based club ain't much use for us Sheffield roadies though.

it would be for me, although southborough is a little way away...

i do kind of sympathise with some of these clubs though, although i guess it depends on how big the club is. i rode with a couple of clubs last year - they both left from the same place on a sunday morning. the more hardcore of the two went off at its own pace (quite fucking fast) and it was just a case of hold on for as long as you could.  the other club sometimes hung on for a bit, or sometimes did its own thing. what i quickly found was that i was caught in the middle - wanting to go faster than the slower one (fairly relaxed friendly 50 - 60 miles) and constantly getting dropped miles away with the fast one (70 - 80 miles fast enough for me to find my heartrate at 10 mile TT level or above for most of the time).

if a club has a fairly serious road racing agenda then they're not going to want to hang around for some new guy...

this year i'm quite happy doing my own thing mostly, and seem to be working most weekends anyhow. but it is fun riding in a big group at speed. it's the only time you really get one over on (the fortunately fairly rare around here) wanker car drivers.

[fatdoc]

I was out on my own a few weeks ago in the peak and overtook rutland cc. I was going up Hathersage hill towards the fox house. I was abit done in having done a load of hills. There was two groups of them about 30 yards apart, I went past the first group with no real bother and was sitting in behind the second group waiting for traffic to get past. When I went past the second group on a piece of open road with good visibility they gave me a right load of verbals for drafting  of them and that I shouldn't be overtaking them. Bunch of twats in my book, I was going quicker and it was safe to pass.
Cycle clubs just seem abit protective of their own egos.

v similar story from a mate of mine in last 3 weeks as well... he did the same, got the same. 

dont forget you have to audition to get in, obviously it's not the ability to ride that allows you access to their inner sanctom.. 

[Fatleg]

Anybody got helmet suggestions. I've got a Giro Atmos and can't seem to get the thing to sit correctly, when it feels fairly secure it ends up leaving two massive marks on my forehead. The wife says it looks like I've been banging my head into a wall. I'm thinking of a change because it also seems to give me a headache. I like the look of the new specialized s-works decibel, anyone got any thoughts.

[Percy B]

I got an Atmos too, although it fits pretty well - and I do have a massive swede! I do get the strange marks on my forehead too though from the padding on the front, but they fade pretty quick. Heard good things about the decibel though.

[Simon S]

Fatleg, I'd definately try the specialised since they are good lids. I've had a few since finding the giros didn't quite fit me as well as I would like. Its a like climbing shoes though, what is good for one person doesn't always work for another.

Clubs wise, I agree with alot of what you guys are finding. The time trial orientated ones can be a real load of bores and completely anti social. Thats why I've stuck with a club 200 miles away.......they are bloody great in their attitude to all comers and have the best kit around. Sorted! For anyone riders in the Lincoln area I would recommend checking them out 
http://www.veloclublincoln.co.uk/

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Anybody got helmet suggestions.

Definitely try on all the main brands until you find one that fits best. Virtually none fit me except the Giro's, watch out for the 'one size' ones now that are supposed to fit all size heads, they will still move about loads and not protect you much. If your trying to save some cash, try Half**ds (I know it's a dirty word in the world of biking) and Decathlon.

[Fatleg]

I tried loads of lids before buying the atmos and at the time it seemed to fit really well, but now it just pisses me off. May go and try a spec one - do James's in Sheffield stock them?