[Adam Lincoln]

Am thinking of getting a camcorder and torn between the hard drives ones and the mini dv's.

Anyone got anything against the new hard drive ones? How much recording am i likely to get out of a 30gb? I assume thee are just as easy to get the footage onto your pc and edit?

Anyway, any pros and cons would be great.

[GCW]

Adam, I am slightly biased as I use Mini DV.  The quality is pretty good (check out the Brownstones Wiki vids on the link below- not bad even through YouTube compression) and I like having the tapes as a back up in case I get the computer stolen/ lost etc.  DV is easy to download, you just need FireWire.  I store them as avi which is about 120MB per minute of footage.
Hard Disc potential issues-  no back-up once downloaded and recorded over.  Possible problems with streaming but shouldn't be a problem nowadays.

Bottom line?  You get what you pay for.  I think the lenses/ capture system is probably more important than the storage method.  But until technology moves on a bit more (and prices come down) I'd stick with Mini-DV    I'm sure others will disagree.

[fatdoc]

Mini Dv tape all the way.

if you use macs then it's really the only way to import segmentally and edit with the imovie suite - which is sooo bloody easy to use. the HD ones export in mpeg4.... that is not always as easy to edit on any computer, but i've only used a few applications and i'm there sure that there are those out there that will disagree.


With DV the technology is older, so  you get uber more for yr buck (lenses etc...) and the quality is fine at entry level... IMO.

[Adam Lincoln]

Well i stumped for the JVC GR-DX107EK
£159 from Jessops

Small pic


Off to Longridge now for a play!

[unclesomebody]

I'm probably going to buy the Canon HV20 as soon as I sell some other stuff but I can't find a bargain price on a PAL version. I've found some very decent prices but all jap NTSC imports. Kind of keen to get a warranty just in case... Anyone find me a deal?

[Adam Lincoln]

Cheapest i can see
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/542525/art/canon/hv20-high-definition-mini.html?srcid=867

[dontfollowme]

Cheapest i can see
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/542525/art/canon/hv20-high-definition-mini.html?srcid=867

I would be warey of ordering from the above as I have heard people recieving no manual etc.

[Adam Lincoln]

Cheapest i can see
http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/542525/art/canon/hv20-high-definition-mini.html?srcid=867

I would be warey of ordering from the above as I have heard people recieving no manual etc.

Ive used them before, but always done the store pickup option so i can check stuff.

[Mike Tyson]

Here's my two pence worth.

I ended up going for a Sony DCR-HC36, and its brilliant. Its mini DV but comes with touch screen, loadsa features and I got a 1gb memory stick for it as well. Paid around 250 quid ish for it. One of the best features was a new hi-tech, revoultionary remotre control. According to the box, it has a remote COMMANDER 

Overall, really easy to use and the quality is excellent.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Or...you could get one of these bad boys. Like I just ordered. For my 'work'

[Mike Tyson]

Nice!!

Fancy lending me it? I wont break it, honest guv.

I remember you mentioning that beast when I was looking for camcorders last year, good work persuading your boss!!

[Jim]

we all know that obi-wan doesn't mess about when it comes to gadgets

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

we all know that obi-wan doesn't mess about when it comes to gadgets

"Little boys never grow up, their toys just get bigger......and more expensive......and more dangerous."
Jim, I recon we could both have this as our epitaph. 

[SA Chris]

Obi, on the subject of toys (and sorry to hijack), got us some transcievers in the US



Not used in anger yet, but mate had them on haute route.

[Jim]

we all know that obi-wan doesn't mess about when it comes to gadgets

"Little boys never grow up, their toys just get bigger......and more expensive......and more dangerous."
Jim, I recon we could both have this as our epitaph. 

Nice.
I'd have it on my gravestone but unfortunately I'll be getting cremated and having my ashes scattered somewhere... er... I dunno.... in font?

[Johnny Brown]

You can still have a gravestone if you've been cremated Jim. Personally I think you should go for a plaque on festin de pierres.

[clm]

camcorders should never be taken to the crag.

[Adam Lincoln]

camcorders should never be taken to the crag.

Whys that then?

[GCW]

camcorders should never be taken to the crag.

Si O'Conor always said that too.

[clm]

camcorders should never be taken to the crag.

Whys that then?

its a bore (cameron)

[GCW]

Surely you mean, it can be a bore?