Crow-barring and car jacking are a bit much.
- do it sensibly and do it well -
I have nothing against moderate patioing Also agree that the FA's wishes should be respected,
I think it's less of a case of the natural beauty being affected and more the change of character of our sport - which is becoming rapidly more sanitized. The landscaping generally looks fine and is in keeping with the natural surroundings but does detract from what the environment is offering us in the way of a challenge, afterall, it's not just physical difficulty that appeals to us in climbing, but also that rush of excitment of doing something a bit necky.
I could, for example, build a plinth below Art Nouveau on the Skyline. This would instantly make the route a boulder problem and as such a fantastic problem for everyone to try, but in the same instance would take away everything which is special about it.
though I think that may be cos we went through that in the eighties and they've settled down now.
Years down the line when uptown dies (sorry to be morbid) does the guardianship of TAOWHW pass to his next of kin? does it pass to pete robbins?
I think it would be fair to say when we go bouldering we are motivated by the quality of the climbing, not the neckyness of the landing. people can go on about bad landings adding character etc etc if they want to be heros, but most people want to boulder and not die as a result.
The first ascensionist can often have strong emotional ties with routes or boulder problems.Rock only becomes a route because of human endeavours and I think this endeavour deserves some respect.
Quote from: dave on February 26, 2007, 12:10:24 pmI think it would be fair to say when we go bouldering we are motivated by the quality of the climbing, not the neckyness of the landing. people can go on about bad landings adding character etc etc if they want to be heros, but most people want to boulder and not die as a result.