[tomtom]

Did he also sell his soul to Santa?

[tomtom]

[Sloper]

Don't that will only give Michael O'Leary an idea, laughing that'll be £5 please.

[Oldmanmatt]

If only it were true....

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/feb/04/scientists-pledge-to-increase-interference-with-the-church?CMP=share_btn_fb

[Milford Cubicle]

I'd noticed there were no specialist record shops around that sold traditional Jewish music, so I proposed to open a chain of them and call it 'The Vinyl Solution

[mrjonathanr]

Inappropriate, unpleasant, distasteful.

Do you have the balls to let people know you're antisemitic face to face or is it just on the Internet?

[masonwoods101]

How does Moses make his tea? Hebrews it.... Is that anti semetic?

[masonwoods101]

Had to google it but yes that's funny....

[mrjonathanr]

How does Moses make his tea? Hebrews it.... Is that anti semetic?

No of course it isn't but you know that don't you?

The difference is that your joke is a nice little pun, made me smile, whereas the other reference finds amusement in the Nazis attempt to exterminate an entire race - " The Final Solution".

Now that is anti semitic.

[dave]

Distasteful perhaps, not convinced its antisemitic. No more than cracking a Savile joke/pun makes you a paedo/necrophile.

[Oldmanmatt]

Distasteful perhaps, not convinced its antisemitic. No more than cracking a Savile joke/pun makes you a paedo/necrophile.

Agree.
Possibly, more poorly thought through than malicious.

[Milford Cubicle]

Didn't think the joke was particularly bad, apologies for any offense caused.

[mrjonathanr]

If that's sincere, accepted.

Speaking as someone who had family transported to Auschwitz I find a joke which derives its humour from a belittling comparison of The Holocaust to record shopping unacceptable. Others on here may take a different view.

You may want to educate yourself further:

http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007704

Jon

[mrjonathanr]

not convinced.. cracking a Savile joke/pun makes you a paedo/necrophile.

Of course not, but I wasn't suggesting he was actually a member of the Waffen SS: it's a matter of the views held and  judgment of that is a matter of nuance.

[tomtom]

For me it teetered on the wrong side of acceptable - because it refers to something horrific.

[dave]

So if I said "what's Boko Haram's favourite. TV show? Men Behaving Jihadly" is that belittling the tens of thousands who have died as a result of modern Islamic fundamentalist terrorism?

[Jaspersharpe]

There's nothing wrong with making a joke about anything. There's also nothing wrong with someone being offended when the joke is too near the knuckle for them due to personal circumstance. Doesn't mean you shouldn't make the joke.

For me it teetered on the wrong side of acceptable - because it refers to something horrific.

Have you really never found a gag about something horrific funny tomtom?

[tomtom]

Yeah that's close to the limit and if you were in Nigeria it would be very very bad... As would the first Jewish joke if we were in Germany. Context and location change the 'severity'... And by that logic we are (being in Europe) closer to the first joke than your one...

Sorry if I'm misunderstood here - satire and this type of joke are important - and I felt the first one was close to but the wrong side of the line. IMHO etc.. Hope that doesn't make noncesense...

[tomtom]

There's nothing wrong with making a joke about anything. There's also nothing wrong with someone being offended when the joke is too near the knuckle for them due to personal circumstance. Doesn't mean you shouldn't make the joke.

For me it teetered on the wrong side of acceptable - because it refers to something horrific.

Have you really never found a gag about something horrific funny tomtom?

Yes of course. But possibly a public forum is not the best place...

I dunno - I was resoundingly given a PC lesson by some friends recently after making a joke that was in retrospect out of turn - and it's made me re think what I do quite a bit...

[Jaspersharpe]

Fuck that. Get new friends. 

[Oldmanmatt]

I find our societal want for outrage a little wearing.

I find a groan worthy pun, even one referencing such horror, to be of little consequence.

Laughing in the face of evil is, after all, quite the opposite of condoning it.

[Will Hunt]

If comedy is not allowed to offend then it would probably cease to exist. Obviously some things are more ubiquitously offensive than others; but if a comedian gets the balance wrong then they just become Chubby Brown or Jim Davidson and people stop laughing.

In this case, I didn't really find it funny. Two reasons: foremost, it just wasn't that funny; secondly, the subject matter is just too grim for me - if you're going to make a joke about the holocaust then you're going to have to somehow make it utterly fucking hilarious (not really sure how you'd do that) to overcome the offence factor.

That said, you all have the right to offend me, it's part of my right to offend you back 


Tomtom, I implore you to tell the joke here so that we may judge it on its merits.

[tomtom]

Fuck that. Get new friends. 

:D

Will - no chance.

[drdeath]

Yeah, have to say I found it offensive...


You see, I had a great-uncle who died in a concentration camp...




He got drunk and fell out of his watch-tower.



Too soon?


 

[Will Hunt]

Have to say I did laugh at that one!