[BenF]

Das Boot is awesome and seems to be loved my such a huge range of people.  I had a conversation about it with some random people just the other day.  Good shout.

[Houdini]

ZardoZ


You betcha!




Inimitable stuff.

[soapy]

early troll chest harness, webley .455 and musketeer boots


i don't know whether to cum or shit meself




*does both

[Houdini]

By all means, cum soaps.

[Falling Down]

I'm in Chicago with work this week and met up with my cousin and his wife last night for a couple of beers and a pizza.  On the way out we decided to go for a couple more beers before heading back home (or to the hotel in my case).  Walking down the road, we see a sign saying 'Meat Puppets 7th November'.  I've been a Meat Puppets fan for years and never seen them live.. they were absolutely brilliant and its made my week away one to remember.

[andy popp]

Serendipitously RAD, bet you were SYKED. Did you ever see Minutemen? I was meant to see Wilco last week but they cancelled. Damn.

[SA Chris]

Made a random cheapie purchase a while back of Human League's Dare 20th Anniversary Edition (complete with remix album "Love and Dancing"). All the singles appear on crap adverts and compilations far too regularly, but some of the rest of the songs I probably haven't listened to since I last had a turntable (last one got nicked in about 1990), and they still sound great. Which led me to thinking about Sheffield being one of the "birthplaces"of electronic pop (Early Human League, Heaven 17 etc). Can anyone make claim to have been at any of the early gigs?

[Houdini]

Sheffield being one of the "birthplaces" of electronic pop

You may find this interesting if I'm not teching you how to suck eggs.

[Falling Down]

Did you ever see Minutemen?

Sadly no... but I did catch Firehose which was a great night out.

[SA Chris]

Sheffield being one of the "birthplaces" of electronic pop

You may find this interesting if I'm not teching you how to suck eggs.

Looks interesting.

[andy popp]

Did you ever see Minutemen?

Sadly no... but I did catch Firehose which was a great night out.

I had a brilliant time at Firehose gig too. This should be in proper wad ticks really but the night after seeing them (in Leeds mind) I bumped into drummer George Hurley on a petrol station forecourt in Stoke.

[Houdini]

Goat By The Jesus Lizard. On Touch & Go Recs from Chicago.

Freeking peerless Rock.



I hope you've got this Herr Popp/Chappers/Andi_F.  Sit very well with that wedge of AmpRep.



And Spiderland by Slint.  Also on Touch & Go from Chicago.



Both LP's recorded by Albini.



If you don't know this by now...

[andy popp]

I have the Slint but not the other. A half lost cause then.

[Falling Down]

And Spiderland by Slint.  Also on Touch & Go from Chicago.



Both LP's recorded by Albini.



If you don't know this by now...

The cover photo was taken by Will Oldham..

I went to the Slint curated All Tomorrows Parties where they performed Spiderland live in its entirity which was very exciting and well worth the wait.  They also had a Melvins/Jesus Lizard supergroup which was very fine indeed.

[andy popp]

I think I've mentioned her before but I is the remarkable, unearthly blues/jazz/country of Karen Dalton



I can't recommend highly enough the album 'Its Hard to Know Who's Going to Love You the Best' (especially the track 'Ribbon Bow')

[Pantontino]

Already got Spiderland, and will check the JL recommendation immediately. One of those bands that I was always peripherally aware of, but never made the leap of faith towards.

[Houdini]

The JL back cat is easy to navigate, but if I may direct you further:


Started with Pure in 89 -



For fanboys/completists only.  Recorded with ROLAND and not a live drummer a la Big Black.  Half succeeds.  Great record, but you must listen before you buy.

Then came Head in 91 (CD copy includes Pure) -



Vicious JL proper, recruited drummer Mac McNeilly (10/10).  A great record, but perhaps not the one to buy first.

Also in 91 came Goat -



Brilliant.  One to own, there are some epic performances.  Critically acclaimed.

And then Liar in 92 -



Belting stuff, hard to say if it's better than Goat, the performances are stunning, grimier, faster than it's predecessors.  You must hear and own this.  More Birthday Party than the Birthday Party managed.

And then came Down in 94 -



JL showing a softer, groovier, slightly more contemplative side.  And my personal favourite.


After this release they left Touch and Go recs for a major label.  Released another LP called Blue, it blew.   Plus another called Shot (not great but not poor) There are other lesser but still ace releases to discover that I haven't covered.

To recap:

Buy - Liar, Goat, Down, and if you feel frisky, the Head/Pure combo.  Liar and Goat are both very heavy - not Melvins heavy - but heavy.  Of the two I would go for Goat first, as it's slower and a little more metronomic; Liar is balls out.  (All are recorded by Albini, so expect a huge sounds).

The Jesus Lizard actually got onto TOTP's once!  They released a 7" from Liar called Puss which was backed with Nirvanas' Oh The Guilt.  They tore the place apart.

[Houdini]

Jesus Lizard Myspace page (nb - they broke up years ago.)

[Houdini]

Something inside me automatically turns-off when I hear the country S. Africa mentioned...


Innured perhaps...?  Maybe it's Nelson; a contrary Violence-supporting fuck who only changed his mind after realizing he'd eat porridge till death....  Maybe, jury's out.

But...


Is this a Neglected Masterpiece?  William Kentridge.  You decide.  Guardian piece.




Simple but effective metaphor:


(Sorry, I will listen to Die Winterreisse, hanging out for a 2nd hand CD or better, a live op.)

[andy popp]

Hope you enjoy the Schubert. Do you know Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder? Not atonal but a kind of lush, hyper late romanticism with typical Germanic legend theme (Kings, Queens, muder, sex, dark woods, armies of ghosts etc.etc.). I think you might like it.

I'm gonna bump the recommendation below because I think everyone missed it at the bottom of the last page and I love her.

I think I've mentioned her before but below is the remarkable, unearthly blues/jazz/country of Karen Dalton



I can't recommend highly enough the album 'Its Hard to Know Who's Going to Love You the Best' (especially the track 'Ribbon Bow')

[Pantontino]

Andy, I liked that Karen Dalton track, in a kind of drifting off, wistful daydream way. Put me in mind of Beth Gibbons (Portishead) vocal style.

[andy popp]

As long as one person listenend to it.

[andy popp]

smoothing a way through this morning with this classic - remember this one andy? (reminds me of steve)

Am currently back deep in roots land having bought an Augustus Pablo collection yesterday.

[Houdini]

As seen in The Shitheap, Hardcore.

"Oh my God, that's my daughter."

Dir. - Paul Schraeder
Score - John Milius
Starring - George C Scott

A very very dark film from the 70's.  Beyond Good and Blaxploitation. 

[Jaspersharpe]

Fuck. I remember seeing that ages ago. Yes, very dark. Didn't 8mm steal a lot of the ideas from this?