[Big Frank]

Are his anti V grade spoutings Troll or not.

http://www.rockfax.com/rocktalk/t.php?n=46375

[Bubba]

No, I think he really believes it, but maybe you just don't want to admit to being out-trolled ?

[dave]

Maybe you'll have to step aside to make way for a new wave of exiting young uber-trollers.

[Big Frank]

Thats the whole Irony not all my threads are trolls.

[Bubba]

<Sigh> you are just a poor, misunderstood soul  :wink:

I don't think *all* of his are either, though surely E0 must be?

[mozzer]

E0 must be a troll - such an awful idea.

[Big Frank]

I dont think E0 is a troll, I truly think he's that nieve to believe it.

[RichardB]

Sorry but I'm another one who thinks that V grades are not perfect, especially at the low end. Tech grades are a big help when you first start bouldering and to try to force people to use just V grades is elitist! :twisted:

[Bubba]

No grading system is perfect, grades are just a guide.

V grades are far better than utg, and they're not that elitist - most beginners are going to get to V0 pretty quick.

[RichardB]

I've been promoted to a regular :D .

I think that, once you get used to them, V grades are excellent. Just that when I first started I found it easier to relate to UKT grades. At the time I was trying lots of stuff around 4c to 5b. Lots of these were V0's but there is a huge difference! Also, it's helps when you try to relate to routes (dirty word I know). I don't see the harm in using both up to say V5. After that V grades work much better.

Just to make it worse, I started off using B grades in The Peak!