[james]

Pretty sure it wont be an 8.  There are a lot of big holds on this thing.  But I  didnt put my boots on to try it so could be wrong?

[Greg C]

But I  didnt put my boots on to try it so could be wrong?

How come? Did you not rate the venue?

[Houdini]

Red Dragon eh?  Is he Welsh?  'Spect to the man - that's one beautiful proud line - it amazes me that lines like that are (were) still up for the taking in the UK.

[Bonjoy]

 Apparently some tall strong geordie hasn't managed Red Dragon yet so it must be fair hard. Dan (who has now moved to Sheff) reckoned it was significantly trickier than Queen Kong.
 I think Keenus means he didn't boot up for that particular problem. But I'm not his spokesman, honestly.

[dobbin]

Well I am, and he says he is better than you all and that you smell of wee.

[SA Chris]

he is better than you all and that you smell of wee.

Hardly cutting edge reporting, although I think my BO partially masks the dried urine smell.

[Paul B]

I tried red dragon briefly before sacking it in for the day, didnt get too far to be honest but there seemed to be a lot of reasonable ish crimps on the rhs and a big crack only 2ft away from the arete on the left, it seemed like you needed to turn from the rhs to the left after a little way, all of which james did in his trainers to show me how bad my footwork really is. Obviously I cant really add much to the grade question but I have a sneeking suspicion this may be one of those problems where theres a knack to it.

[Mike Tyson]

Agreed Paul. I ain't a super strong climber but got to that point where you shift from right to left on the arete. Didn't get much further than that though, but didn't feel ridiculous. I was trying it at the end of the day as well. Knacky could be the way on it.

Red Dragon eh?  Is he Welsh?  'Spect to the man - that's one beautiful proud line - it amazes me that lines like that are (were) still up for the taking in the UK.

Mint problem and line.

[Paul B]

yeah, its at the far end of the crag so by the time you've done worldline, then flailed on kong you're screwed. Oh and beware easy looking walls that turn out to be projects with crazy dyno's on them.

[r-man]

Some amazing looking problems in that neck of the woods.

Reckon this is worth keeping an eye on:

http://www.the-county.com/preview.htm

Unfortunately it's been "iminent" for ages.  I remember being told it was near to completion whilst buying some rock shoes in Wildtrack before a Feb 2005 trip to font!  Still from what I saw of the footage that day (bouldering and trad) it may well justify the wait (possibly previously unseen footage of the Earl on Dark Half and the Prow etc?).  I get the feeling that they just can't stop shooting new stuff - saw them over winter at Kyloe trying to get some more Earl action on Lothlorian / Leviathon etc.

Yeah, I just noticed they are boasting footage of the first ascent of Caterpult, among others. Caterpult was done in 2002, so it's been in production at least 4 years!

[cofe]

Sadly no sound, but here's Andy Earl doing Queen Kong:

http://www.andrewearl.co.uk/video%20clips/Northumberland/Queens%20Crag%20-%20Queen%20Kong.m1v

its like a miniature version of the alliance.

[skyscraper]

 yeah i'm not sure about the grade of this red dragon problem either. didn't get anywhere near flashing it, but think i got the crux in a day.  plus that varian guy looks a bit queer, and think in was actually talking to him afterwards, tbh he came across as a bit of a bullshitter. might go up tomorrow and see if i can get the 2nd ascent of a somewhat diminutive looking problem.

[unclesomebody]

 

this is why i love ukb. controversy.

[Mike Tyson]

yeah i'm not sure about the grade of this red dragon problem either. didn't get anywhere near flashing it, but think i got the crux in a day.  plus that varian guy looks a bit queer, and think in was actually talking to him afterwards, tbh he came across as a bit of a bullshitter. might go up tomorrow and see if i can get the 2nd ascent of a somewhat diminutive looking problem.

Not sure who you may be Skyscrpaer, but I've only met Dan a few times, and he isn't a bullshitter or queer. He's a strong fella, and I reckon you should get your facts right before saying stuff like you have. Fair do's if you know him and your having a laugh, but otherwise......... piss off homo!! 

[Paul B]

believe he has moved to sheffield too. I think the comments above are a little harsh...after all queen kong is a quality problem and the grade seems to have stuck.

[Johnny Brown]

Well he is wearing a vest in that photo. No right-thinking man climbs in a vest, hence I concur with the assessment of queer or liar.

[Bonjoy]

 I heard he's infact a silverfish dressed as a man and his eyes are made of felt-tip pens!

[Greg C]

believe he has moved to sheffield too.

Bloody hell! I know the Lakes is wet, but you'd think it were a sinking ship with the rate people move away.

  No more ship jumpers.

[Mike Tyson]

Leaves more space for us stopping here!!!!! 

[Jim]

your welcome to it 

[Mike Tyson]

Haha!!!

Your only saying that coz the styan spanked yo ass!!!!!

[saltbeef]

yeah i'm not sure about the grade of this red dragon problem either. didn't get anywhere near flashing it, but think i got the crux in a day.  plus that varian guy looks a bit queer, and think in was actually talking to him afterwards, tbh he came across as a bit of a bullshitter. might go up tomorrow and see if i can get the 2nd ascent of a somewhat diminutive looking problem.

hope you're someone dan knows, and you're taking the piss a bit. but if not where do you get off being so offensive?

[a dense loner]

i got off on it, genius post. if you do know him it's funny and if you don't know him it's even funnier

[unclesomebody]

 

[dobbin]

And he definately is queer. I hung out with him at Rubicon on Saturday and he kept trying to bum me and everything.