[Bubba]

The Guru, V9, but Adam Rawlings.

Thanks for Keith Rawlings for sending in the info.

[dave]

Anyone got any infomation on this, the description is a bit unclear? I only ask cos i'm just wondering how anyone get font 7c out of this bit of crag. From my experience its very difficult to contrive even english 5c here.

[Bubba]

Is that the exact part of the crag where problem is?

[dave]

YEah, Crucial Knee Jam is the left arete of the buttress from that notch, i assume it traverses the break from the slopers along right which is about 5b, (past the thigh of the guy climbing) and the bit of "arete, dyno and finish is a bit vauge.

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The crack it finishes up is invisible on that photo but is in line with the arrow above, between the spotter and the obvious wide crack/arete.

[Bubba]

I can see why you think it's a bit unlikely...anyone local to that area got a better idea? Might be that they filled the V9 in wrong on the problem form?

[dave]

If a V9 has been done then fair dos and hats off to them, but i know from personal experience that without getting stupidly eliminate its difficult to get 7c-hard moves there. Plus i also think it would be nigh-on impossible to do something that hadn't already been done before, withought getting stupidly eliminate but from the description it doesn't sound like it is.

[Bubba]

I've emailed the person who sent this info in for clarification....

[Bubba]

...and I've not got an answer, so for now it stays in as V9, until someone goes and discovers otherwise.