[Somebody's Fool]

Will it stay dry even in these inclement times?

[Scouse D]

was dry after torrential rain yesterday but very humid so it got greasy real quick. Has do use muchos chalk and brushing.

[r-man]

There were 7 people in Dave's cave today. Dave was overjoyed. 

Paul, I don't know anything about previous names, but Hannibal is what Dave has settled on. I thought he was calling it Honey Buns at first, until we started talking about elephants and alps...

Somebody's Fool - despite torrential rain it was all dry today. A little greasy, but fine with brushing.

In other news, Dave pulled the solitary crimp off the line from the left wall leading into Andronicus. His eyes lit up when he realised it would now involve muchos underclinging, squeezing and general hardness. Watch this space...

[Somebody's Fool]

it would now involve muchos underclinging, squeezing and general hardness. Watch this space...

Sounds like he'll have to refer to The Joy of Sex for beta.

[a dense loner]

was driving past the cave to go to the tor last sunday with nigella and cowbowhat. from a distance you could see 2 people lurking with intent. conversation went something like "who do you reckon that is" "bet it's polish dave, no-one else would go there". it was polish dave

[dave]

There were 7 people in Dave's cave today.

sorry to piss on anyones bonfire here but is this cave not actually called "Tom's Cave"? I don't know where i've got this from, but i have a deffinite memory of this being refered to as toms cave for years. before anyone says "no toms cave is at stoney, where Power Allowance is" then no, thats Tom's Roof, this is different. Question?

[SA Chris]

or nominate.

[r-man]

Yes, I remember someone saying that. But it just confuses the hell out of people, and results in...

before anyone says "no toms cave is at stoney, where Power Allowance is" then no, thats Tom's Roof.

...everytime you try and mention it. Dave's cave is just much easier.

[a dense loner]

but wrong. i prefer "right to left arse-dragging" than jerry's traverse but i don't try and rename it

[r-man]

Wrong, how so? There are plenty of examples of places being renamed. Constantinople anyone?

Not that I really care. I have no great renaming mission.

What's the history behind the name of Tom's Cave anyone? Surely Tom never went there? Or are there some long forgotten routes around the fringes? Is it even possible that the name itself arose out of confusion as to the whereabouts of Tom's Roof?

[dave]

if we're going down this route, then how about renaming the Tor so people don't get confused with ravenstor in dovedale?

[a dense loner]

constantinopole, that's a very big name

[webbo]

Wrong, how so? There are plenty of examples of places being renamed. Constantinople anyone?

Not that I really care. I have no great renaming mission.

What's the history behind the name of Tom's Cave anyone? Surely Tom never went there? Or are there some long forgotten routes around the fringes? Is it even possible that the name itself arose out of confusion as to the whereabouts of Tom's Roof?

of course mr procter went there.he went every where in the dale.i also remember pod having a thing for climbing there due to it being one of the few places that stays dry.

[r-man]

if we're going down this route, then how about renaming the Tor so people don't get confused with ravenstor in dovedale?

What, am I supposed to yell out in horror at this suggestion?

 

[Johnny Brown]

Some pics from Nuda's Tartan yesterday. Worth a visit.
Lovejoy on the start to the traverse.

Dopefield powering through the crux

The strength-sapping home straight

Dave 'Shaq' Parry on Farrar's roof prob]

makes a nice afternoon with a visit to Rheinstor.

[dave]

probably not worth the visit unless you've got the requisite 2 flashguns at your disposal though. and boy is that crag rough on the hands.

[cofe]

lovejoy on the superindirect. i might add with only one flashgun. however two would have been a real boon.

[dave]

for what its worth heres mine. unfortunatley i had the camera set to "wack".

[monkey boy]

Wheres this place guys? What range of problems are there? The photos look good!

[Bonjoy]

 On the right, near the road as you approach Youlgreave from the east. Give me a ring if you are keen to head down this week, I'm a man of leisure now so can get out anytime.

[Bubba]

sorry to piss on anyones bonfire here but is this cave not actually called "Tom's Cave"? I don't know where i've got this from, but i have a deffinite memory of this being refered to as toms cave for years. before anyone says "no toms cave is at stoney, where Power Allowance is" then no, thats Tom's Roof, this is different. Question?

It is "Tom's Cave" and has been called that for decades.

[n_man]

Any chance you could put up a more detailed description and add a few comments about the lines grades etc. Thanks.

[Paul B]

sorry to piss on anyones bonfire here but is this cave not actually called "Tom's Cave"? I don't know where i've got this from, but i have a deffinite memory of this being refered to as toms cave for years. before anyone says "no toms cave is at stoney, where Power Allowance is" then no, thats Tom's Roof, this is different. Question?

It is "Tom's Cave" and has been called that for decades.

I'm really not sure why this venue is receiving as much attention as it is. Its an absolute mess.

[Johnny Brown]

unfortunatley i had the camera set to "wack"

Known to most folk as 'jpg'. Why oh why?

[r-man]

I'm really not sure why this venue is receiving as much attention as it is. Its an absolute mess.

Because the two problems there are first class. Unusual gymnastic climbing on unusual holds.

I'm not sure what you mean by mess - there isn't any rubbish and the rock is clean. Granted it's quite dark, and it's next to a busy road, but how is it a mess?