[dave]

so how much do we all recon this'll shift for in the end? some people'll pay crazy wedge for this.

[SA Chris]

£150-200?

I picked up a copy of Hard Rock (1st Pressing) in a second Hand Shop a couple of months back for £12.00, doubt it will fetch as much as that though.

A mate of mine has Extreme.... and is hanging on to it until it will fetch £250.00 or so.

[Johnny Brown]

Reckon it'll go fo two fiddyish. What do i win if I'm right?

In a similar vein, some goon on cocktalk wants to swap his new peak bouldering guide for an old cockfax one! cos he 'prefers the old toppos'(sic)

So, anyone with an old cockfax lying around, here's your chance to get an extra free copy of Ru's book to keep on the coffee table or by the bog.

[Bonjoy]

Man, how much do I wish I'd pilfered the copy from Alfreton library when I was a nipper!?

[dave]

what do you win? how about a long stand and a bucket of cold steam.

I heard somewhere of extreme cock going for £450 on eGay. I was going to venture that it'd go for about £300, depends on hwo hot the market is of course.

I couldn't let me old cockfac go, too many memories, to many dynos ticked.

where exactly in greece is toppos anyway?

[Rice Boy]

My cockfax looks like the dead sea scrolls so I figured time capsuling it then digging it up the next day.....

'Blimey, it's that old guide book from the nineties'

Thought the story would sell itself!

[AndyR]

I wouldn't let my copy of extreme rock go for love nor money....

'Cross-hatched with the comic linearity of puffins' - there's no price you can put on that.

[SA Chris]

where exactly in greece is toppos anyway?

It's Old Toppos he is referring to, which was reduced to rubble by an earthquake. Toppos (or new Toppos, if you will) was built on the ruins.

[Falling Down]

so how much do we all recon this'll shift for in the end? some people'll pay crazy wedge for this.

Someone (friend of a friend) gave me a copy in the mid nineties.  If I'm being honest though I'd be gutted if I paid £250 for it and I'm a bit of a collector of records and books 'n stuff.  I mean its not that good really is it?? Mostlyh pretty crap hero writing and some good photo's of Cubby on Edgehog, Footless Crow, Pollit and Leachy in shit sunglasses on The Prow...

On another note, is there anyone else on UKB who doesn't own a copy of Peak Bouldering but continues to use a combo of their own noggin,  the old OTE guides and more recently,  Ru & Jon's masterpiece -  I don't think I've even thumbed a copy at the crag...

[Falling Down]

I wouldn't let my copy of extreme rock go for love nor money....

'Cross-hatched with the comic linearity of puffins' - there's no price you can put on that.

Try telling your wife and baby that when they are running out of nappies that you spent £350 to read about Malcolm B(l)oater 'whirling like a dervish' on the Bittersweet Connection with a shit black 'n white picture of Andy Pollit on Great Wall at CYF ;-)

[Bubba]

Extreme Rock is nice but you've got to be an idiot to pay that sort of cash for it.

I'd steal a copy but I wouldn't buy one becuase I think Ken Wilson is a prick.

[Sloper]

Ken Wilson is at least good value,

I was at a BMC meeting a while back when he was rattling on about the inter web thingy giving too many folk the platform when they had nothing to contribute, my comment 'just like you Ken didn''t go down well with every one present.

[Johnny Brown]

On another note, is there anyone else on UKB who doesn't own a copy of Peak Bouldering but continues to use a combo of their own noggin, the old OTE guides and more recently, Ru & Jon's masterpiece - I don't think I've even thumbed a copy at the crag...

I got given a copy once for my birthday, thumbed through it then took it back to the shop and swapped it for something more interesting. The only bouldrin guides I've taken to the crag were the old ote ones, but even then only a few times dead early on.

[moose]

I don't own a copy of Peak Bouldering.. mainly because, until Ru's rock-pr0n masterpiece alerted me to Wimberry, the only Peak places I had bouldered at were Bell Hagg and Pleasey Vale!

[webbo]

Extreme Rock is nice but you've got to be an idiot to pay that sort of cash for it.

I'd steal a copy but I wouldn't buy one becuase I think Ken Wilson is a prick.

any book with my name it must be worth thousands.

and hundreds.

[dave]

kinell it only went for 127 in the end! i still would rather bank on stumbling upon one in a charity shop for 50p though.

[AndyR]

I wouldn't let my copy of extreme rock go for love nor money....

'Cross-hatched with the comic linearity of puffins' - there's no price you can put on that.

Try telling your wife and baby that when they are running out of nappies that you spent £350 to read about Malcolm B(l)oater 'whirling like a dervish' on the Bittersweet Connection with a shit black 'n white picture of Andy Pollit on Great Wall at CYF ;-)

That's not shit BnW - that's atmosphere!

Has there actually been a decent climbing book (apart from guidebooks) released in the past 15 years?

[dave]

think the poer of climbing just falls inside 15 years. also the heinz beams yosemite book is aiight, got some ill photos in. and a chapter about jerry dieting his way up classic hard yosemite problems.

[AndyR]

Come now - the power of climbing was utter wank - a couple of decent photos, and some of the worst 'interviews' ever written - they make the planet no fear interviews seem deep and insightful.

Yosemite was mostly photos wasn't it?

Surprised noone's ever done an arty BnW book on grit.

[cofe]

none of these books touch extreme rock. borrowed a copy of ER from a guy i used to work with and he had the original sketches for the jacket cover too. now THAT must be worth a fortune together with said book. he wasn't doing a bad job of ticking it either.

[dave]

i think POC is bo, some of the interviews are pretty good like the malc taylor one, stuff like that. I also think its funny when the mentalist anti-trad pro-toproping author is trying to bait zippy into saying bad things about trad climbing then it totally backfires. Although it is puzzling the amount of southern sandstone people are in it that you've never heard of, and amazing how many moves are described as dynos, and just plain infuriating how many bad apostrophe's there are.

theres loads of text in the yosemite book, its well wordy.

[AndyR]

i think POC is bo, some of the interviews are pretty good like the malc taylor one, stuff like that. I also think its funny when the mentalist anti-trad pro-toproping author is trying to bait zippy into saying bad things about trad climbing then it totally backfires. Although it is puzzling the amount of southern sandstone people are in it that you've never heard of, and amazing how many moves are described as dynos, and just plain infuriating how many bad apostrophe's there are.

theres loads of text in the yosemite book, its well wordy.

Maybe I should get hold of a copy of that then (Yos thing) - sounds good.

Is that really it though for books in last 15 years? Maybe publishers won't touch them as they're  too expensive for likely return??

[SA Chris]

Do you totally discount Simmonite's Book? Ok it's flawed, but there are is some good stuff in it (nad I'm not biased before someone comments).

There's a few other things like Redheads' "....crow" which hhas some pretentious crap, but good bits too.

[dave]

as i've said before stainforths "da peak" is good, though only about 10% about climbing. if you're not into the peak district then its not going to be that rad though.

what abotu the climbing handbook with a picture of huffy in? is that now not elavated to classic status? :wink:

[AndyR]

Do you totally discount Simmonite's Book? Ok it's flawed, but there are is some good stuff in it (nad I'm not biased before someone comments).

There's a few other things like Redheads' "....crow" which hhas some pretentious crap, but good bits too.

Bought a copy for my nephew's birthday and had a flick through it - can't even remember what was in it.......

Never got redhead's crow - can you still buy it these days?

[AndyR]

Yeah - I've got The Peak - it's not really a climbing book though is it.

It'd be nice if somebody did an extreme rock 2 - could include Ireland, and also a bit of bouldering stuff as well.
Would it sell?

[SA Chris]

I really like "The Peak" due to the quality of all the phots involved, regardless of subject.

...Crow is still available from Cordee, etc, but its just shy of 40 notes, due to the format and quality. You need to have a look and see if it's to your taste, as there is a lot of art and random ramblings thrown in too.

I think someone like Ray Wood needs to produce a collection if his work as he has done some excellent work (wasn't he responsible for the young and vulnerable "huffy" shot?).

Stone Country has some good bits in it and is very good, but I think it could have been less biased with the coverage.

[moose]

Deep Play by paul pritchard is pretty good - chop-routes in llanberis and gogarth, being insanely committed on Stron Ulladale (throwing away the abb rope to give dawes impetus to take on a crux pitch).  Maybe a bit too much expedition stuff though (though some of that's endearingly ramshackle rather than the usual snow plodding and rope fixing).  

Re the Moffat bit of Heinz Zak's Yosemite book - top stuff.  Anyone who feels stronger after eating nothing but lettuce for a day must possess some unearthly powers (perhaps he taps into ley-lines or something?!).  Pure waddage  - recently confirmed by the seeing him carry off wearing a lime-green tank-top in Black Lung (btw has the direct to Bruce Lee he was working ever been managed?).

[Rhys]

One For The Crow is an awesome book- got well into it when there was a copy in Pete's, but unfortunately someone nicked it before I'd finished reading all the essays. Anybody read Readhead's latest book? Saw it advertised in the Bangor Uni wall; wasn't there at the time but apparently he just came in, put the poster up, had a sneer at the people there and left!

Had a look at where that photo of him in the NW Bouldering guide was taken and its over quite a drop. There's occasionally some chalk around those walls as well but it looks like a proper bag to be honest. Still if anybody knows where I could get a topo I'd be well endebted ('Clogwyn' I think its called).

Simmonite's book was okay, but the North Wales section is fairly poor to be honest- especially the slate section which doesn't really do justice to the place or any of the routes- I mean look at those photo's of Readhead on the Rainbow slabs in the Vaynol in Nant Perris,  incredible.