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The final frontier is people playing videos on their phone in public without headphones.

Even worse some kind of snapchat thing on a loop. Guaranteed to push me over the edge.

I've been sized up to by stroppy teenagers that i have politely confronted on trains a few times now but most just turn it off.

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Mainly in the south west (e.g. Ogmore, Dinas, Tintagel) but also noticed it elsewhere (e.g. Anston, Stanage). Not seen it yet since Ive moved to Glasgow though which is nice (ignoring non-climbers at Dumbarton).


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Sadly a losing battle

I’ve yet to see one in the UK, where have you had the displease of encountering them?

Been trying to work out what the best way to say ‘please turn your music off’ is without just sounding like a grumpy old man (which I am).

Only had to do it a couple of times and have opened with, " I realise this makes me sound like a grumpy old man but.....". One occasion they just grumpily turned it off and left shortly after, the other ended up in a good conversation/debate in which they were just "replicating the wall experience outdoors" and came round to the idea of the peace and quiet, experiencing nature, not impacting on other people (climber and non-climbers) etc.

Yep, this is a thing. We took some friends to widdop last year and the first thing they did on arrival was crank up the Bluetooth speaker. I immediately asked them to turn it off and explained that wasn't the 'done thing'. They were really surprised because "there's always music playing at the climbing wall". They had actually never climbed without music before! In this case, thankfully they were good friends so they listened to us and were educated to a different perspective.

Incidentally, I occasionally like music at the crag - only very particular venues though and when it doesn't impact on anyone else.

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Incidentally, I occasionally like music at the crag - only very particular venues though

Are you talking about the organist at the end Llandudno pier?

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They were really surprised because "there's always music playing at the climbing wall". They had actually never climbed without music before!

This reminds me of my first time going to a professional football match, 10 minutes in, something seems off.. oh yeah there's no commentary! If only I'd brought my bluetooth speaker ;D

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Only in February! Will do, looking for more folk to climb with if youre keen!

Mainly in the south west (e.g. Ogmore, Dinas, Tintagel) but also noticed it elsewhere (e.g. Anston, Stanage). Not seen it yet since Ive moved to Glasgow though which is nice (ignoring non-climbers at Dumbarton).


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#31 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Yesterday at 09:48:39 pm
I'm pretty uptight about most things but the couple of times I've come across climbers with speakers at the crag, I haven't found it bothersome.

It's weird because I'm pretty much the worst person there is when it comes to not being able to zone-out/benefit-from "go-on!" "allez" type encouragement/haranguing.  Yapping dogs or whistling similarly often narks me unreasonably.  :shrug:

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Incidentally, I occasionally like music at the crag - only very particular venues though

Are you talking about the organist at the end Llandudno pier?

I must confess that parisellas is on my list of crags where music seems to complement the vibe, even if that involves trash soft rock covers distorted by water. Tunes in the cave do work better than most other venues.

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I don't get the whole headphone thing when out in the countryside, seems to be missing the point. People had ear buds in climbing at kyloe on Saturday and were part of a friendly group, had to keep taking them out and asking people to repeat things. Fucking stupid.

I never use them climbing, but bone conducting headphones are much better than earbuds in this sort of situation.

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#34 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 09:49:55 am
I'm pretty uptight about most things but the couple of times I've come across climbers with speakers at the crag, I haven't found it bothersome.

It's weird because I'm pretty much the worst person there is when it comes to not being able to zone-out/benefit-from "go-on!" "allez" type encouragement/haranguing.  Yapping dogs or whistling similarly often narks me unreasonably.  :shrug:
Next summer I'm taking a bluetooth speaker to the Cornice and the Tor with Americans chanting "GO ON STONE, SMASH IT OUT" on repeat  :lol:

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#35 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 12:02:15 pm
I love music, both playing and listing, and have a very broad taste (or no taste as more discerning listeners would call it).

I'm trying to understand why I find the idea of playing recorded music in headphones while being in nature distasteful and playing music on loudspeakers absolutely revolting. Regardless if I like the music or not. (Especially if I dislike the music, of course).

Music in nature feels like littering, an introduction of an unatural artifice imposed on the environment.

I'm also wondering where I draw the line.
  • If someone play the flute at the crag, I know from experience that I will ask them in no uncertain terms to stop.
    If sitting at a campfire, I guess I'm fine with live music, but not recorded music? Maybe?


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#36 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 12:35:29 pm
I only ever use BC headphones when I am restricted by daylight and / or weather to running in street lit area. Or thrashing myself going for a PB in a race where they are allowed. 

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#37 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 01:49:53 pm
Music in nature feels like littering, an introduction of an unatural artifice imposed on the environment.

While working on Northern Rock I made a morning visit to Troller's Gill to catch the main wall in the sunlight. On the walk to the crag you pass a little island with a stream running on either side. There's a tree.
On the island was a lady who was practising yoga in the warm morning sunshine. An old school boombox was by her side, playing at high volume a CD of nature noises, doing its utmost to drown out the streams, birdsong, wind, and the bleating sheep.

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#38 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 02:17:03 pm
Music in nature feels like littering, an introduction of an unatural artifice imposed on the environment.

While working on Northern Rock I made a morning visit to Troller's Gill to catch the main wall in the sunlight. On the walk to the crag you pass a little island with a stream running on either side. There's a tree.
On the island was a lady who was practising yoga in the warm morning sunshine. An old school boombox was by her side, playing at high volume a CD of nature noises, doing its utmost to drown out the streams, birdsong, wind, and the bleating sheep.

Brilliant!

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#39 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 03:01:12 pm
I love music, both playing and listing, and have a very broad taste (or no taste as more discerning listeners would call it).

I'm trying to understand why I find the idea of playing recorded music in headphones while being in nature distasteful and playing music on loudspeakers absolutely revolting. Regardless if I like the music or not. (Especially if I dislike the music, of course).

Music in nature feels like littering, an introduction of an unatural artifice imposed on the environment.

I'm also wondering where I draw the line.
  • If someone play the flute at the crag, I know from experience that I will ask them in no uncertain terms to stop.
    If sitting at a campfire, I guess I'm fine with live music, but not recorded music? Maybe?

I once went over to Montserrat for a few days and on the first day, a Spanish guide who was a friend of a friend, proceeded to play didgeridoo at the crag! I was a bit shocked if I'm honest, mid climb at my limit.
No one else even seemed to notice or be bothered and so I said nothing. Very surreal.

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#40 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 03:01:46 pm
Music in nature feels like littering, an introduction of an unatural artifice imposed on the environment.

While working on Northern Rock I made a morning visit to Troller's Gill to catch the main wall in the sunlight. On the walk to the crag you pass a little island with a stream running on either side. There's a tree.
On the island was a lady who was practising yoga in the warm morning sunshine. An old school boombox was by her side, playing at high volume a CD of nature noises, doing its utmost to drown out the streams, birdsong, wind, and the bleating sheep.

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#41 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 04:25:19 pm
I'm firmly in the grumpy old man camp - it makes my piss boil!

Not sure I can explain why - possibly because I'm a grumpy old man and they're usually playing shite!

But even if I liked it it'd still piss me off - when I'm outside I want to be outside and not listening to someone's tinpot bluetooth crapwagon!

However, if it's a massive set of speakers in a field/old quarry then I'm well down with that....  :-\

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#42 Re: Tunes at the crag?
Today at 04:44:48 pm
I'm with Duncan  :boxing:

I think for me it all boils down to arrogance, that that arrogance is impose your music/noise whatever, on others and assume they're ok with it.

If there's nobody else in ear shot, then fine, plug in the 3 phase and the generator.   If a tree falls in the forest etc.   

But if there other climbers about then keep it turned off!!

 

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