[mozzer]

OK, i remember the ote millenium issue, which listed all the hard problems and that in the UK.

But wouldnt it bit quite cool to have a page on the site with the top problems?

Especially as I always forget all of them.

After all we have a V15 now, erm... a couple of V14's, some V13's...

see, i am pretty bad at remembering them, and i am a climbing geek.

Whaddya reckon?

[Bubba]

Not a bad idea - could easily be done. There's a good, but not up to date list on australianbouldering.com of all places.

Might be a good starting point, but I bet there's quite a lot missing from that list.

[dave]

I recon you just wanna include things 8b/V13 and above, otherwise it would be to big to be managable, and in the grand sceme of things 8a and 8a+ isn't that hard anymore, since people are flashing this kind of thing.

so what 8bs and above have we got:

cypher
ace
brad pit sitting
super furry animals
malc's start into POB
Walk away
+other gaskins stuff (i loose track)
8ball
ben's exten, into danny's
close of buisness?

any more?

[Nigel]

"Other Gaskins Stuff":

Anestheisa
Isla d'Encanta
Kaizen
Cloning Technology Alternative Start
Walk Away (stand up and sit down)

Aeons - normally not included because its a bit eliminate and un-natural (its the Aeon traverse there and back with no rest allowed on the big hold at one end!), but if the Peak is allowed eliminates then so is everyone else! There aren't that many >V13 eliminates about anyway...

[mozzer]

Yeah. I kind of thought say V13 and above. Dont forget Mo's new one as well.

So, what we got then:

Walk away sit down V15

are any of those V14? I think Kaizen and Ace are arent they?

Then all the rest are V13?

Is that right?

[dave]

kaizen is V14, ace is V13.

[dobbin]

Sit start to the Thing is 8b...

[dave]

Oh aye, and sit start to superman 8b.

[dobbin]

who are the ascentionists of that - Ben, Malc, Jon Welford and...???

[dave]

Dunno. Does ss to superman litterally come right from the back through all that green shite and muck?

[dobbin]

Thankfully not - although theres potential there Dave lad! grab yerself another 8c! the sit start starts arse on the floor holding the footholds, whereas usually it starts hand in the side pull foot on wee edge...

[dobbin]

is pinch 2 only 8a+?

[dave]

Me and cofe assumed it started both hands next to each other in the break (like crouching), left foot over left and then 1st move is going up to sidepull - this is how BM does it in stick-it. Not that it matters, cos we cun't do any moves on it anyway.

[Stu Littlefair]

that's the normal superman.

the ss starts a little lower, from sitting, natch. The extra moves aren't hard, but it's hard to do superman with muddy fingers.....

[beardy]

www.nwbouldering.co.uk has a graded list of problems for the Carnforth area, if info is sent in about other problems in the North West these can be added into the list

[nik at work]

Beardy I sent Neil (Kershaw?) a copy of a PDF Denham bouldering topo which I've done. Has he forwarded it too you? If not let me know and I'll send you a copy if you want to include it in the NW bouldering site.
Denham - esoteric, green, graffitted, littered but still my local...

[beardy]

I will get in touch with Neil, but you can send the topo to info@nwbouldering.co.uk to be published. If you have any pics you could send them as well .