[Ed booth]

Echo Wall just got it’s first repeat 

[Wellsy]

Whooooaaa that's a big repeat! By whom?

[teestub]

Mr Pearson https://www.instagram.com/onceuponaclimb/p/C-I5sSquqx9/?hl=en&img_index=1 Glad it stopped raining for him

I think posting in here without providing details should be a puntering offence!

[jakaitch]

Pretty rapid! Only seems to have had a few (very wet) sessions on it? Super impressive work

[SA Chris]

I think posting in here without providing details should be a puntering offence!

Indeed, James says hi.

[remus]

So good to see James' getting it done on Echo Wall, what a weapon! Hopefully it'll break the spell and encourage other people to get on it.

Looks like he was able to rinse the kneebars a bit more than Dave, interesting to see whether he thinks kneebar tech has made it a bit easier, or whether he's just a bit fitter so he can spend a bit more time there and get more back.

Pretty rapid! Only seems to have had a few (very wet) sessions on it? Super impressive work

Yeah, fairly sure he's only been on it for a couple fo weeks max, and like you say when you factor in the faff of getting up there, spending a bit of time working it, sessions lost to weather etc. I can't imagine he's had that many sessions on it.

[jakaitch]

Yeah from his instagram stories it looks like most of the sessions were in less than ideal conditions.

Would love to see Jacopo put in some time on it (if he could luck out with the weather etc...)

[SA Chris]

Lets see if he's as generous with his grade opinion as DMac wasn't when he repeated WoL.

(Although TBF I am not sure DMac ever actually formally stuck a grade on it).

Good effort either way.

[Fiend]

Lets see if he's as generous with his grade opinion as DMac wasn't when he repeated WoL.

Bantz 

"Ungraded but harder than Rhapsody E11..."

[36chambers]

He's got to suggest "easy E9" for the full redemption arc

Is Echo still considered Dave's hardest FA? (Assuming it ever was, I've lost track.) 

[teestub]

Bantz 

"Ungraded but harder than Rhapsody E11..."

I thought D Mac had recently suggested Echo Wall was ‘only’ E10’, but like 36C I have also lost track!

[AJM]

https://davemacleod.blogspot.com/2008/10/grade-of-echo-wall.html?m=1

Seems to have given it a french grade and a fairly decent breakdown back in the day...

[SA Chris]

That was all I could find too.

[AJM]

It's hard on the face of it to see that breakdown and a later view of "probably E10" (which I think I'd seen somewhere too) as being consistent. Either that, or most of the other hard routes in the UK need regrading.

[teestub]

Ha found it, it’s on here from 18 min mark

[spidermonkey09]

It's hard on the face of it to see that breakdown and a later view of "probably E10" (which I think I'd seen somewhere too) as being consistent. Either that, or most of the other hard routes in the UK need regrading.

Yep. Either it was never 8c climbing, or the gear is better than he thought, or it's surely E12 at an absolute minimum. I have to say I thought Daves "prob E10" comment was shameless clickbait, we will see.!

[Felix14]

I think he said he perhaps overestimated the physical difficulty of the climbing.

[remus]

I think he said he perhaps overestimated the physical difficulty of the climbing.

That, and he's quite fond of wide grade bands for trad grades.

[MischaHY]

Even if it’s 8b+ with a death fall it still has to be E12.

[andy popp]

An amazingly determined effort from James!

[edshakey]

Great news, congrats to James.

Has anyone else been to try it, over the years? I vaguely remember hearing of someone who wanted to but never got the weather - has anyone ever actually managed to put time into it?

[remus]

I thought I heard somewhere that Caff had had a look, but didn't sound like he put proper time in.

[andy moles]

Little drone clip of Echo Wall on Instagram, gives a more appealing-looking angle on the route than the FA film (or at least how I remember it). Look forward to seeing more footage.

[Moo]

How many grades does the walk in add ?

[SA Chris]

Eleventy