Poor Harry. That'll haunt him forever.
Quote from: Ged on December 10, 2022, 10:47:54 pmPoor Harry. That'll haunt him forever.This is another of the many things I do not understand about football. About 24% of penalties taken at the highest level does not result in a goal. It should not be that big of a deal to miss a penalty if it happens one times out of four?
This is such a “why try and climb up the cliff when there’s an easy way round the back?” question ...
Does your 25% stat include shootouts? It seems very low if that's in normal time.
Yes, brilliant for them. A historic moment for African football.
Quote from: Ged on December 10, 2022, 07:58:12 pmYes, brilliant for them. A historic moment for African football. And no opposition player has got a goal past them in the tournament yet.
Apparently Mr. Kane has scored on 58 out of 69 penalties taken, making him clearly better than the average professional attacking player at this skill, so the chance of missing one or both penalties is approximately 1 – (58/69)^2 = 29%*. That's surely in the "shit happens" category? I would certainly not start up on a long route if I judged that there was a 30% chance of getting hit by a thunderstorm.* Assuming that the events are independent.
belt it down the middle
I think Croatians put 2 down the middle?
Kane was clearly the best bet for that penalty, he's more experienced than most of the rest of the team, he's almost England's most prolific goal scorer ever, and has probably taken more before. He and Southgate should obviously stay at the head of the England team.
Plus, it was his second in the same match - and against a goalkeeper who he plays club football with, so you'd expect knows his / his "tells" better than most.I can't imagine the pressure of the first one, let alone the second one. I mean what do you do - send it the same side as the first one, go the other way, belt it down the middle, panenka?
Quote from: TobyD on December 12, 2022, 10:10:13 amKane was clearly the best bet for that penalty, he's more experienced than most of the rest of the team, he's almost England's most prolific goal scorer ever, and has probably taken more before. He and Southgate should obviously stay at the head of the England team.The Real Science of Sport Podcast did an episode on penalties recently. Apparently experience is negatively correlated with success on high pressure penalties and the success rate of top players goes down as they progress through their careers.The hypothesis was that there is less expectation with the younger players so they feel less pressure.
I can't remember a more entertaining period of English sport. The football (men's and womans) and the cricket in particular are an order of magnitude better than the turgid meekness of the past. Caring about winning or losing is so passe
Quote from: sdm on December 12, 2022, 11:28:20 amQuote from: TobyD on December 12, 2022, 10:10:13 amKane was clearly the best bet for that penalty, he's more experienced than most of the rest of the team, he's almost England's most prolific goal scorer ever, and has probably taken more before. He and Southgate should obviously stay at the head of the England team.The Real Science of Sport Podcast did an episode on penalties recently. Apparently experience is negatively correlated with success on high pressure penalties and the success rate of top players goes down as they progress through their careers.The hypothesis was that there is less expectation with the younger players so they feel less pressure.Interesting. Or that they have had fewer opportunities to miss yet?