Quote from: tommytwotone on December 12, 2022, 10:16:08 amPlus, it was his second in the same match - and against a goalkeeper who he plays club football with, so you'd expect knows his / his "tells" better than most.I can't imagine the pressure of the first one, let alone the second one. I mean what do you do - send it the same side as the first one, go the other way, belt it down the middle, panenka?Both the taker and the goalkeeper will have already decided before the match where they are going to go for a first, second and third penalty.
Plus, it was his second in the same match - and against a goalkeeper who he plays club football with, so you'd expect knows his / his "tells" better than most.I can't imagine the pressure of the first one, let alone the second one. I mean what do you do - send it the same side as the first one, go the other way, belt it down the middle, panenka?
And the stakes didn't come much bigger than last night. Near the end of the game, your team is on the ascendency and woukd have a high chance of going on to win, relatively easy opposition in the next round, potential for first World Cup final in 60 years.
Quote from: sdm on December 12, 2022, 11:36:27 amQuote from: tommytwotone on December 12, 2022, 10:16:08 amPlus, it was his second in the same match - and against a goalkeeper who he plays club football with, so you'd expect knows his / his "tells" better than most.I can't imagine the pressure of the first one, let alone the second one. I mean what do you do - send it the same side as the first one, go the other way, belt it down the middle, panenka?Both the taker and the goalkeeper will have already decided before the match where they are going to go for a first, second and third penalty.Really? Loads of takers these days clearly play the game on the run up, do the whole stutter and jump thing, to see which way the keeper will go, and then put it the other way. Equally, surely keepers try and read rhe run up and dive accordingly (it's pretty obvious when a right footed player opens their body up to send it to their right)
how they got past Brazil I'll never know.
I agree with everything you say there about Harry kane. But your post was saying that all players and keepers will have decided what they're going to do before the match. And in a lot of cases these days I don't think that's true. Jorginho isn't unusual these days in his approach. Look at some regulars in the Premier league. Fernandes, Salah, all try and play the keeper.
He's [...] a mediocre penalty taker. Albeit, one with a great success rate.
I really don't want Croatia to win. Boring football played by an average team for me, how they got past Brazil I'll never know. Morocco would be my preference but I think France will batter them. An Argentina-France final, and I think Argentina might edge it.
the aggro Argies ...there behavior in the Holland match was not in the spirt of the rest of the WC so they dont deserve to win.
Quote from: sdm on December 13, 2022, 02:11:46 pmHe's [...] a mediocre penalty taker. Albeit, one with a great success rate. At some point, these things are not compatible. I don't know the person but if this is success rate after 5 penalties maybe it's luck, if it's after 100 then the power of stats suggests he's actually quite good...
Quote from: spidermonkey09 on December 13, 2022, 01:41:37 pmI really don't want Croatia to win. Boring football played by an average team for me, how they got past Brazil I'll never know. Morocco would be my preference but I think France will batter them. An Argentina-France final, and I think Argentina might edge it.Now its purely down to being entertained for me i would like to see France win as i think they play the nicest football out the the remaining 4. Would be good to see Morocco win they are not great to watch and i think the aggro Argies would best them in the final and whilst Messi and co can play some amazing footy there behavior in the Holland match was not in the spirt of the rest of the WC so they dont deserve to win.France v Arg final with France winning by 2-1 would be great.
Was it me, or did they seem overly keen to mark Mbappe (sometimes 2 defenders on him) leaving other players unmarked?