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#475 Re: How to build a woodie
December 09, 2016, 05:39:41 pm
And the main board.


Mix of wood, Core, Moon, Beacon and Uncle Tom Cobbly n' all.
More big stuff than I would put on my own board but we have to cater to all...
I'd like to fill up the space with screw ons and replace most of the holds with wood.
Thoughts on wood?


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#476 Re: How to build a woodie
December 09, 2016, 06:38:38 pm
Woods good but if making them yourself, is your time worth it?

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#477 How to build a woodie
December 09, 2016, 07:02:48 pm
Woods good but if making them yourself, is your time worth it?

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No.

We make some, when we want something specific, quick. These are mainly softwood though and not good for small holds or for lifespan.

I have a good, well equipped, workshop and make hardwood holds, but that's much harder (sorry, bad pun). Buying hardwood is a pricey business and so I don't and just recycle old furniture, doors etc. You couldn't do it at home, unless you are seriously dedicated. Much better to buy ready made.

As I said, the Crushers are coming up on a year of use and still feel like new. We have two BM 2000's and (I don't know why) one feels greasy and old, all the time and one that always feels new.
The dark crimps on the small board are mahogany, about 4mm deeper than the Crushers. They don't feel as nice. Not sure if the Crushers are Ash or Oak or what, but the grain is more open; so feel less greasy.

I can't see any wooden holds lasting long if feet are used on them. Would it be daft to just change the holds on the top half of the board? Stick with mostly resin in the lower half?

Anyone had a heavy traffic wooden hold board?

Is it the Works that has the BM board? How's that going?


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#478 Re: How to build a woodie
December 09, 2016, 07:06:15 pm

Thoughts on wood?


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much easier to tweak the shape to your needs
but doesn't clean up as well in the dish washer.

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#479 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 09:31:13 am
End of day 1, optimistically thought this would be a one-day build...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BN6XMGvgYxm/?hl=en

Built the frame pretty quickly, but turns out my house is made of the strongest bricks known to man, so drilling in the 100x10mm frame fixing holds was crazy slow, only got four done and the bit was blunt and Screwfix closed...

Also drilled and nutted three panels, need to measure and cut the top panel into a trapezoid of some sorts.

Need an SDS drill and bits, which I think I can borrow, might just do a hole every night.
Going to treat the frame wood tonight. It's already treated, but going for longevity.

The overhang wall which is phase 2 is going to be considerably easier I think!

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#480 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 12:22:02 pm
End of day 1, optimistically thought this would be a one-day build...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BN6XMGvgYxm/?hl=en

Built the frame pretty quickly, but turns out my house is made of the strongest bricks known to man, so drilling in the 100x10mm frame fixing holds was crazy slow, only got four done and the bit was blunt and Screwfix closed...

Also drilled and nutted three panels, need to measure and cut the top panel into a trapezoid of some sorts.

Need an SDS drill and bits, which I think I can borrow, might just do a hole every night.
Going to treat the frame wood tonight. It's already treated, but going for longevity.

The overhang wall which is phase 2 is going to be considerably easier I think!
Looks good.

Slip some dpc between the timbers and the brick while you still can.

Definitely borrow an sds drill, it'll take no time compared to a battery gun and has the benefit of not wrecking your battery gun.

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#481 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 01:47:19 pm
A sheet, or strips behind the timber? Re-read and researched...

Yeah, we had a corded hammer drill, but still was crazy slow

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#482 How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 03:49:27 pm
Um... might be a bit late, but why didn't you stack the sheets and drill them at the same time?

Oh, and hitting the framework behind with a t-nut hole; just pick up an 8.5mm drill bit.
Once the board is erected, check for blocked placements and you can drill through the t-nut, into the frame. Just an inch or so, to allow the bolt in.
It doesn't damage the t-nut or significantly weaken the framing.


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#483 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 03:50:56 pm
We did :D The fourth panel is a trapezoid and the struts will be in different places, so hadn't worked out the grid (or shape) at the time.

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#484 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 03:57:36 pm
Yep. I can't read.
I blame Xmas shopping.
For everything, including the current shit state of the entire world.


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#485 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 06:17:02 pm
End of day 1, optimistically thought this would be a one-day build...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BN6XMGvgYxm/?hl=en

Built the frame pretty quickly, but turns out my house is made of the strongest bricks known to man, so drilling in the 100x10mm frame fixing holds was crazy slow, only got four done and the bit was blunt and Screwfix closed...

Also drilled and nutted three panels, need to measure and cut the top panel into a trapezoid of some sorts.

Need an SDS drill and bits, which I think I can borrow, might just do a hole every night.
Going to treat the frame wood tonight. It's already treated, but going for longevity.

The overhang wall which is phase 2 is going to be considerably easier I think!
Looks good.

Slip some dpc between the timbers and the brick while you still can.

Definitely borrow an sds drill, it'll take no time
compared to a battery gun and has the benefit of not wrecking your battery gun.
This

It'll take you all week with a hammer drill corded or not

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#486 Re: How to build a woodie
December 12, 2016, 09:55:11 pm
Yeah, on the hunt for one I can borrow, if not I'll have to hire one in.

Why the DPC? Do bricks sweat that much?

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#487 Re: How to build a woodie
December 13, 2016, 12:32:58 am
Ha! Probes, I just connected the dots!
There's nothing wrong with the holds!
Campus rungs are much less in cut, though; so I was thinking about it from that point of view. My choice of words was poor. Don't be offended! Love Crusher.


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 :2thumbsup: nice one Matt, just checking all's good.
Those style of crimps were tested on a 45 and were tough going, what was aimed for, just linking a few short moves on them took a bit of working. They're ash btw, which in my experience is one of the best for board holds. Consistent grain that gives a bit of friction and feel, they don't polish up to quick, and are fairly resistant to temps/humidity change.
It could be worth trying beech if you're after a holds that can take a lot of foot traffic, the depot had a set off me a few years back, a mix of both ash and beech. The beech fared better in the long run.. they saw a lot of traffic. They did all get a jet washing which wont have helped but needs be if you want clean holds. Beech tends to polish up though and become super slick even after a good brushing.

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#488 Re: How to build a woodie
December 13, 2016, 06:45:06 am
Yeah, on the hunt for one I can borrow, if not I'll have to hire one in.

Why the DPC? Do bricks sweat that much?
Other way round,  you're bridging across the dpc in your house with the timber, so it's to protect your building a bit rather than for the sake of your board.

I have dpc under my board for the opposite reason. My garage isn't 100% weather tight and i don't want the board getting saturated when it floods.

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#489 Re: How to build a woodie
December 16, 2016, 03:47:41 pm
So, people are still bothering to T-nut home boards rather than going screw-on only (or 'dirty-euro' and stacking three screws in a bolt hole)?

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#490 Re: How to build a woodie
December 16, 2016, 04:06:23 pm
Both

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#491 Re: How to build a woodie
December 16, 2016, 06:38:16 pm
So, people are still bothering to T-nut home boards rather than going screw-on only (or 'dirty-euro' and stacking three screws in a bolt hole)?

I move holds round a ton depending on what i'm doing. I think having some holds which can easily be moved is pretty useful. Eg. in ensuring progressive overload in ancap, you can just change a hold or two per session for, say, a four week block, making it harder every time. If you are going to be doing the bulk of your training on one board, then its really important to be able to change it up lots, otherwise you will be like you were at the school - mainly really good at climbing on that board.

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#492 Re: How to build a woodie
December 29, 2016, 11:00:20 am
Does anyone in Sheffield happen to have some spare T-nuts? Collect today or tomorrow? Neither Core or Williams fasteners seem to be open. In middle of build. Ta.

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#493 Re: How to build a woodie
December 29, 2016, 11:22:45 am
otherwise you will be like you were at the school - mainly really good at climbing on that board.
A thing that should be #1 priority for every climber.

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#494 Re: How to build a woodie
December 29, 2016, 12:23:39 pm
Screwfix Tom?

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#495 Re: How to build a woodie
December 29, 2016, 01:26:01 pm
Oh yeah - good suggestion. Realised he main thing is that we drill the holes today. So not so desperate...

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#496 Re: How to build a woodie
December 29, 2016, 09:30:38 pm
Shaw's ironmongers - just along the road from Screwfix - they might have some in

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#497 Re: How to build a woodie
January 12, 2017, 09:19:48 pm
The steep board on the left is missing holds... :clown:



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#498 Re: How to build a woodie
January 13, 2017, 10:17:36 am
The steep board on the left is missing holds... :clown:



I think I could fall off the steep board, trip over the mat and fall through the window. 7a+ for that I reckon.

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#499 Re: How to build a woodie
January 13, 2017, 11:05:19 am
breaks my heart that people have the space and opportunity to build a board, and then they build a monstrosity like that.

 

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